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Kickoff: Seattle Sounders are Leagues Cup CHAMPS
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It was a historic day for the Seattle Sounders at Lumen Field on Sunday, as they absolutely obliterated Inter Miami, Lionel Messi, and the Barca Boys, while also making them crash out in an insane postgame melee.
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Introduction and Live Recording
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Well sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be a real scorcher today. Why the scorcher today? Well it's gonna be scorcher.
Seattle Sounders vs Inter-Miami: A Historic Victory
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Speaker
Good morning, everybody. Welcome in to another episode of Lobbing Scorchers Kickoff. I'm Ari. That's Nico. We didn't get a lot of sleep, but we are back at it at 818 a.m.
00:00:56
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the morning after the Seattle Sounders became League's Cup 2025 champions. Nico, what a night at Lumen Field. I'm not going to lie to you, brother.
00:01:07
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I slept about two, maybe three hours last night. i'm I'm running on absolute fumes, but we would not miss this episode. ah We had to get right back at it. Nico,
00:01:19
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How are you feeling after what we witnessed at Lumen Field last night? A historic 3-0 victory over Inter-Miami, Lionel Messi, and the Barca boys, followed by one of the all-time greatest crash-outs I've ever seen from not just a person professional soccer club, but but any group of human beings.
00:01:38
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ah How are you feeling now? what like i How many hours are we removed? Like seven or eight hours removed? How how are you feeling, Nico? I am tired so good morning to all you love your audience and love is quarters family and you sounder sickos it is early we have about four or five hours of sleep um between us. and And that's what happened.
00:02:07
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That's what happens when there's history. That's what happens when you have a game that had absolutely everything. It had it had great goals. It had ah drama. It had suspense. And it had a brawl. I mean, you know, you just ah can't even write it up the way that it did. and all the fans just needed us to be on here and and comment on You know, with both you and I thought about the whole thing, you're right. You know, it's been enough time for me to let things soak up.
00:02:41
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and soak and kind of marinate after it all happened.
Seattle Sounders' Global Recognition and Strategy
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And I gotta say that I just continue to be amazed of how well represented Seattle was in a global stage yesterday from the crowd, the atmosphere, the game, ah the soccer, what the boys did on the field,
00:03:08
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um to their class and their composure throughout the madness that was the aftermath of that game. So I just have to put it up there with one of the best games ah that the sounders have played i don't know if this is bigger than concof champions league win logic tells me no because that that was the first tournament for the sounders uh to win they were the first mls team to win that uh that tournament that that that um
00:03:49
Speaker
ah You know, that that collection of wins and how they got there and the back and forth between going to Mexico, tying their game, coming back and then just beating Pumas the way they did, in my mind, seems like it's bigger, but...
00:04:08
Speaker
We're so close to this one that beating Messi, Mascherano, DePaul, Busquets, winning a Leagues Cup, the first one for the club, of course, becoming the first club to win it all in North America. I mean, they've they've won every single tournament that you could possibly win ah for the Seattle Sounders.
00:04:28
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and And that's to be applauded. So I think that's what I want to Just close on. The Seattle Sounders are the most successful club in CONCACAF in terms of titles. They want everything.
00:04:46
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No other club could really say that. Ian says it's like it was scripted. The whole thing was ah absolute cinema. I still can't believe the entire sequence of events that we witnessed, but ah down to Schmetz creating a viral meme in the lead up to the game by saying they have Messi, but we have Paul Rothrock.
00:05:09
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All the attention that that quote got. And then who is it that scores the last iconic goal that really seals it and puts the match to bed?
00:05:20
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Paul Rothrock. ah The fact that it ended up like that was, I mean, it's it's amazing. Like you couldn't, I could not have written that. I could not have written that any better. And then obviously the ending was just insane. That's making international headlines. Every time there's a Suarez crash out.
00:05:38
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that is going to lead to some
The Brawl: Key Incidents and Reactions
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headlines. And that was one of his his bigger crash outs, which is saying a lot for a guy that is largely known in his life and his career. For his crash outs, honestly, as much as as his soccer abilities.
00:05:54
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ah But that ah i mean that brawl at the end, that was a real brawl. wasn't like one of those like fake hold me back type of brawls. That was like... Wings going on right You got a lot of it on video Nico You took that on the pul Pulso YouTube correct? Is that your video?
00:06:12
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I did I did I took that I i did radio for 1360 AM I helped with a commentary and of course ah You have Open transmission booth Where you know there's no no windows You open up to get the atmosphere sound So it was the perfect advantage Point and You know, credit to Samsung and Galaxy series of phones that, you know, I'm a Galaxy and guy, I'm an Android guy.
00:06:39
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i mean, that's great. Great Zoom. And and it it just was the perfect advantage point. And and and yes, I saw it all, saw it happen. Saw Sergio Busquets slowly get close to Oben and hit him with ah with a jab to the chin. Loser.
00:06:57
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loser and And it was just it was just wild, man. to to what To what you just said, though, you know, it is kind of incredible the way it all played out, right? Because it wasn't just Paul Rothrock getting the goal, but it was like striker Paul Rothrock.
00:07:12
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I mean, it was yeah b Brian's match looking like a genius in so many ways, right? in Everything before, just prepping, setting it up, and then at the end, you pull out Ferreira, you put Paul Rothrock at striker, and The boy shines, man. Everybody who's had some negative to say about Paul Rothrock and why is this guy up there and why does he play?
00:07:39
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Every single person that going into this game
00:07:46
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just had this assumption that the Seattle Sounders were going to get killed or that they had no chance, that it was impossible, that the only way they were going to win was on PKs.
00:07:57
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And, you know, that that sort of commentary I heard from from pundits, national pundits. I heard them from just YouTubers or or influencers.
00:08:09
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I heard them from people that have no i no business doing any sort of soccer breakdowns. And I saw it from fans. I mean, it was everybody who was not looking close enough.
00:08:22
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If you were watching both teams, if you were really paying attention, if you were watching the sort of season that in Miami was having and you were watching what the Sounders were doing and you saw the deficiencies that that Miami team had,
00:08:38
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Should not be surprised. It's not an upset. It's not a surprise. Going into this game, both Jeremiah and I said that we thought that they, we were we were not just confident. And I know I was beyond confident. I was sure that Seattle was the favorite going into this game because they've never lost the final at home because they are a team that was but a better collective. They were in better form.
00:09:07
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And Messi or no Messi, the collectiveness, the cohesiveness of this team, I thought was going to get them past
Analyzing Seattle Sounders' Tactical Prowess
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Inter-Miami. I had a 3-1 scoreline. That was me. They were calling me crazy for saying it could have been it was going to be 3-1.
00:09:22
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was 3-0. I mean, that's pretty close. So I just i love it. that There isn't enough I can say about this game. I'm just rejoicing. you gave him ah You gave him too much credit.
00:09:33
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giving him that goal. Yeah. You know, it's funny. It turns out that winning in MLS isn't just as simple as getting Lionel Messi, the Barca boys and Rodrigo DePaul.
00:09:46
Speaker
It's almost like, uh, It's just like this oversimplified way of thinking that you can actually do this stuff. You think that ah it sounds like a foolproof plan. You know, we're going to buy Leo Messi.
00:10:00
Speaker
It's MLS. We're going to win every trophy in MLS. He's going to just destroy all of MLS and win everything. he's got yeah He's got no competition. No one can take down Leo Messi.
00:10:11
Speaker
ah it's it's It's all well and good to say that, ah but... games played on grass or turf and it's not one on paper. And when you're actually, when you're actually in the heat of it and you have to do something, uh, that you have to do when you're an MLS club, like fly across the country to Lumen field and play the Seattle Sounders in a final on short rest on turf.
00:10:38
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Is, is our Leo Messi and the Barca boys going to save you in that situation? Or is there more to it than that? Do you actually really need to be about it to be a, to be a team that can pull that off in a, in major league soccer?
00:10:52
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We saw what happens. We saw what happens when, when all you've got is cutting corners because you can't, you can't like do the actual work yourself to get to where you're trying to get.
00:11:07
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So ah that's what happened. That's what happened. And it was incredible. the The crash out brawl was... I mean, we're going to break down your your video here in a bit, but ah it's even weirder, Nico, than I thought. Like, in hindsight, if you watch Suarez's whole trajectory, which we're going to do, like, he crashes out, spits on Gene, which is the main incident that's getting the most attention,
00:11:36
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But then he like comes back to where everything like the players are all like simmering down and talking to each other and is like dapping everyone up. I think he he like daps up KKR. He gives him his jersey. He's shaking hands. He's like being a man about town.
00:11:50
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Brother, you just spit on a man that's not as far away from your age as you might think. You're pretty close to your age, actually. But like, come on, man. Like, what are we but Like that really, to me, it just reinforces like there is something gen we all knew this, but like there's something genuinely just wrong with that guy.
00:12:12
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How can you go from spitting on Gene to like yucking it up with everyone and pretending like you didn't just do that? Like i there's there's screws loose. I think he's just like a he's just a maniac. Like, did you notice that, too? Like, what was what was that part of it?
00:12:30
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like Look, the the reason why he acts like that is because, as ah rest in peace, Charlie Murphy would say ah about Rick James, he's a perpetual line stepper.
00:12:40
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And he's used to just doing what he wants every single time. And yes, there's something wrong with him. And going to a guy like Gene and speeding in his face um and then getting into it with...
00:12:55
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the other staff member that's trying to keep him away from that elderly staff member because you think you're big and bad. It's mind blowing. It's honestly, it's sad. It it it makes you just wonder if he should just retire because he's not going to lift that down. and And if he does leave it down, then we're not doing our job and people should be ashamed that the guy like that can just, know,
00:13:22
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have that sort of action, that repulsive action, and just go being about a man about the town and and just going to get coffee and chill and then go back to practice like nothing happened, drinking his mate. I mean, that that's not...
00:13:38
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what should happen, right? It's not normal. It's not normal. It's not normal, man. So you're right. And it's weird you because he he is part of the brawl and then he like moves out. I don't understand why he engages with with Gene and I don't care.
00:13:51
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i don't care. thought Macherano is a great coach and and I thought that Brian Smetzer gave him his his credit and and all this stuff. And hold on. I did not mean to say that. He's not a great coach. He's he's an okay coach.
00:14:07
Speaker
He was a great player. He was a great player. ah But if I'm, you know, a coach and and I know what happened, I either to not comment or comment.
00:14:19
Speaker
or be about saying, hey, that's unacceptable. What did he say? What did he say? He kind of mentioned that, you know, that every, if something happened, I mean, I'm paraphrasing here, but maybe they were antagonized. Maybe there was a reaction to an action. Oh, my God.
00:14:37
Speaker
Yeah, you know, he's you know, i that I got to figure out what happened. Yeah, he he basically said, look, I was too far away from it. yeah He was too ah far away from it all this stuff because because my my question was you know, there is a video of Sergio Busquets hitting Albert Vargas in the face and There is a video of ah him spitting on a staff member and and you know, he was like well I wasn't there I was too far away from the actions and all these things but then at the end he kind of killed
00:15:11
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The little he said by just indicating that, you know, he's got to figure out why it happened. was like, look, it doesn't matter why it happened. It should have happened. No, if if that was Mascherano's response, then i he's just an idiot.
00:15:25
Speaker
I'm sorry. Like, if nothing else, you have to have like the media and PR savvy to know that you can't say that in a situation like that. Yeah. How do how do their PR people not tell him that? Like, if the when they ask you about this, which they will, you have to give the like it was unacceptable. We don't condone that. We'll deal with it internally. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:43
Speaker
Any implication that his actions in that situation were justified because a gene provoked or antagonized him. You lost already. There's no point in saying that. No one's going to take that seriously. No one should take that seriously.
00:15:57
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ah Like, not only is it just ah the wrong response on the merits of it, but it's just stupid. Like, yeah what do you think is to be accomplished or gained by going with that with that talking point, with that line on it?
00:16:09
Speaker
That, I mean, that just proves to me that he's... that it's pretty much what we thought with that situation that he doesn't know what he's doing just on the basics of the job.
00:16:20
Speaker
Any coach who knows what they're doing will tell you that you have to, that there's a set of lines that you have to say when your player, goes into territory like this, which I haven't seen happen that much to be fair, but there's no other response to that other than that was unacceptable. We don't condone it. We'll deal with it internally. but And by the way, you know, someone, uh, someone mentioned it in chat up here.
00:16:46
Speaker
Uh, No. i Okay. Sorry. I don't know where it is. and no but But while you look for it, like, will he get suspended or MLS won't suspend him? Like, he is going to get suspended. He can get suspended for league games for this.
00:17:00
Speaker
And we'll see what they give him. ah Luis Suarez's MLS career should be over, man.
Seattle's Coaching and Team Culture
00:17:05
Speaker
Like, there's got to be a line. There's got to be, like, a threshold. that you hit where it's just not tenable.
00:17:14
Speaker
Okay. He should be, he, he should be done. He should be done. ah you can call it woke. You can call it soft or whatever. Uh, if you're If you're going with those talking points, ah which some people are, ah super sick point. You are defending a guy spitting on security gene who is way older than Luis Suarez.
00:17:39
Speaker
So, I mean, like, I can't believe he said that. That blows my mind. And who has nothing to do with it. I mean, look, if you just search up Machirano, If you just search up Machirano, you get all of the the headlines.
00:17:53
Speaker
Marca says, Machirano justifies Luis Suarez. There may be a provocation. Javier Machirano accuses Seattle Sounders of instigating Luis Suarez. Another publication. he know there's video? Does he know people have cameras?
00:18:08
Speaker
What is he doing, man? That makes it so much worse. It's wild. It was already one of the most pathetic, embarrassing displays I've ever seen on a soccer field.
00:18:20
Speaker
And the coach saying in that about it, it makes it worse. It makes it worse. And on top of that, it underscores his incompetence. All right. Like,
00:18:32
Speaker
it was always kind of a joke that they hired him we all knew that he didn't get hired on anything on coaching merit he got hired because his boys with messi because he played with messi uh yeah she was a disaster with argentina's u20 yeah yeah not and was never so good as a coach that he merited coaching in any mls club uh inter miami or anyone else and this This just proves it. Like, the fact that he doesn't even know how to give, like, the boilerplate PR response at his press conference to that.
00:19:06
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I mean,
00:19:08
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on ah on a team of on a team of, he coaches a team of losers, he's a loser too. I just dont want to make something clear. I totally agree with what Brian Smetzer said.
00:19:21
Speaker
answered me about the brawl, that this should not be the story. This should not overshadow the achievement by his team. This should not overshadow Pedro's first ah trophy and Andrew Thomas being the goalkeeper of the tournament and jamer gomez andrade's phenomenal performance and novat bargas just keeping all his composure being outstanding both offensively and defensively putting pressure on messi all game long reed baker whitens ah performance everything paul rothrock of course living up to all the hype yes that should be the focus however
00:20:05
Speaker
If we don't shine a light on this unacceptable behavior and what happened, then it would just go unfounded, unseen, and it wouldn't matter. And it would feel, as what you said, that you continue to carry yourself in that fashion and that a World Cup winner, Champions League winner, like Sergio Busquets, can go after an 18-year-old kid after a game and and do what he did and start the brawl that he started and
00:20:38
Speaker
for it to just blow up. So yes, it's not the story. That's not the reason why we're covering this. The reason why we're covering it is so justice can happen. And so this sort of thing
Osaze's Breakout Performance and Key Players
00:20:49
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stops. And because it deserves to be, there should be a light that shines above this so people could see what happened and the reaction of a group of grown men that should know better and professionals at that. And Soccer legends at that.
00:21:08
Speaker
I mean, you know all of the Responsibility is on your team and you just acted like a whole bunch of high school kids I mean, it's it's unbelievable. So that's what we cover it.
00:21:20
Speaker
That's why I asked the question That's why it needs to be talked about. It's just for that These men are in there in their mid to late 40s, man. What are we talking about? um ah All right.
00:21:34
Speaker
Let's ah I wanted to I wanted to cover something ah positive, you know, before we before we watch the video of the brawl. I wanted to play this ah this postgame interview from on the field of Osase de Rosario and I and Dwayne De Rosario and Osaze's mom also gets interviewed in it. It's just it's just phenomenal. so I'm going to play it for you guys if you haven't seen it yet.
00:22:01
Speaker
ah But, I mean, Osaze, one of the breakout stars of the tournament, and ah it's ah you know it's just it's such a cool story, you know, son of D-Row, MLS legend right here.
00:22:12
Speaker
So getting to watch D-Row get to gloat over this moment and everything and just kind of Talk about Osaze's path. It's pretty awesome. So ah let's just let's just watch this and bask in this for a minute here. ah In front of a packed house here at Lumen Field to shut down Messi and win the title.
00:22:32
Speaker
What was going through your mind when you scored that goal? Oh, just glad to make everybody proud. And and you know, I worked hard for this. this is This is the fruits of my labor. So, you know, it's it's it was for me.
00:22:46
Speaker
And what's going through my mind right now, it's crazy. It's a dream come true. You can say, I'll be messy in a final. It's a dream come true. Rodney Spencer told us you have been the surprise of the season. He said you're wide-eyed at training.
00:22:59
Speaker
You're hungry. but Where does that come from? The love, the passion. I want to be a champion just like my dad. And I'm a champion. He's lit. Talk through your mind, Graeme.
00:23:11
Speaker
A legend yourself. When you hear your son talking like that. Just very proud to be a father. um It's emotional, really, to see my son take the game that I loved and take it to the next level. And, you know, to be on the field with arguably of the world's greatest that ever graced the game and just being on the field with a player like Messi and the impact that he's given to the game in a cup final and winning it for Major League Soccer. How much this league has done for me and my family, my career.
00:23:38
Speaker
And now we're seeing it through our kids. You have had some major moments in your own career. But seeing your son score that goal, where does it rank? Oh, it's up there with the greatest moments. and from but Besides the time he was born and I looked into his eyes, this is amazing. I mean, I'm very grateful.
00:23:52
Speaker
um his mom's standing right here. We're all grateful. He's put in a lot of work and a lot of energy and a lot of effort. And the champion blood's still in the bloodline. The champions are still in the bloodline.
00:24:04
Speaker
oh Mom, what was it like watching for you tonight? Oh my gosh, this was my first championship game without a baby because my kids grew up in Major League Soccer.
00:24:15
Speaker
I am immensely proud. Osazi has worked so hard. He's been all around the world. I'm so happy that Craig Weibel and the Sounders gave him a look and it's his time. He's stepping into his destiny, so I'm so proud immensely. Before I say goodbye to the DeRosario clan, are we celebrating tonight?
00:24:33
Speaker
Oh, we're shaking the bacon. Oh, yes. Oh, my God. I love it. I love it. How good is that? That's what it's about. How good is that? is there There's nothing better than a proud mom interview.
00:24:50
Speaker
That's so good. And obviously, like Dwayne Dero's part in in there. yeah I think we kind of like overlook sometimes how good Dwayne Dero was. 2011 MLS MVP, over 100 goals in the league.
00:25:04
Speaker
One of the best Canadian internationals ever. ah It rocks having Osaze on the team. and like I love just getting to see... like We haven't really heard from Dwayne Dero much, if at all, like about ah how he feels about...
00:25:19
Speaker
Osase's rise in the last, it's only been in the last like few weeks here. But shout out to Dwayne De Rosario because I mean, do they win this tournament without Osaze? Probably not, man. Like the way that you stepped up and and ran that number nine role, you couldn't do it any better. And ah it was like, I don't know. I felt like it was preordained that he was going to score last night. I wasn't even, there was no part of my mind where I i thought Osaze was leaving that game without a goal.
00:25:48
Speaker
That just speaks to where he's at right now. But ah any, anything on Osaze before we ah watch Sergio Busquets and Luis Suarez crash out like little babies?
00:25:59
Speaker
ah Yeah, look, I love the interaction. He is a very well-put-together individual that is short with his answers, that is hard-working player, ah that had a huge responsibility, and that that was basically...
00:26:18
Speaker
handed to him because of Danny Mussovsky being suspended two games. And he took that yeah even when things did not go right in that LA Galaxy game, he kept pushing.
00:26:29
Speaker
He gets his goal. I thought that he was better in ah this one that he was against the LA Galaxy. I thought that he put ah The center backs on there are a lot of pressure. And i'm I'm not talking about his pressing defensively, but with his movement, he he he really occupied space as well.
00:26:47
Speaker
ah He, you know, helped pivot and and in ah get the wingers involved.
Detailed Breakdown of the Brawl
00:26:53
Speaker
So I thought that his work rate was there. I thought that his vision was there and the goal he he puts away, it's it is the the the the result of a player that sees space very well, that crashes the box adequately.
00:27:08
Speaker
And he hadn't gotten a couple of opportunities before that in a couple of Pedro de la Vega crosses that he couldn't quite get there. So when he gets that ball, great service by um Alex Rodin, by the way, he almost...
00:27:28
Speaker
Hats that ball with all of his strength Because he was dying for it He needed that goal And he just seems to have the right mentality For the role So I was happy for De Rosario And the De Rosario family man And the fact they all did the De Rosario Zombie Celebration is awesome So fire You guys can see over my shoulder there ah At our pre-match Party at Fast Fashion yesterday couple of listeners uh gifted us some fan art of osaze and it says shake and quake i don't know if you can read that right there oh that is shaking quick which is uh that's the name i've been using to refer to his goal in l la which uh god nico this tournament three of my favorite goals in sounders history in one tournament the de la vega galazo the shake and quake and then the rothrock capper i mean it doesn't get better than that
00:28:21
Speaker
ah All right, let's watch the crybaby losers crash out because Nico, you got some of the best footage. There's there's all kinds of like people who are filming from the stadium, different angles coming out, ah but you got one of the best ones. This has over 120,000 views on YouTube. I don't know if you saw Yeah, he kind of blew up there. It blew up.
00:28:43
Speaker
You've got it titled Sergio Busquets punches Obed Vargas starts fight. I think you when you posted this, you probably didn't even know about the spit yet. Like that came out. That came out later, didn't it? ah No, no. I did ah hear about it out when I posted. It just really took so long to post.
00:28:59
Speaker
um I mean, I tried to do it as quick as I could. And as I'm like, i literally walked the stairs. I didn't even take the elevator down to the stairs. presser because I was trying to do a bunch of things at the same time and information kept coming. People kept texting me. could be getting videos from like my son and people in the stadium. And ah yeah, I had heard about it. But the reality is that when I was watching this live, that's where it started. I mean, this is before the spit.
00:29:30
Speaker
This happens yeah before. And if you go all the way to the end, You see the last interaction you got between yeah between the staffer trying to stop Luis Suarez from getting to Gene.
00:29:42
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um So yeah, so that's why I phrased it that way, because this starts the whole thing. All right, so ah it yeah, it starts when... ah ah So you got Crash Out Crybaby number one right here, Luis Suarez, number nine on Inter Miami.
00:29:57
Speaker
ah You can see at the start of Nico's video, he is already crashing out and being a little crybaby. and talking a bunch of trash to a 20 year old. And then what what you're going to see is a crash out crybaby. Number two, Sergio Busquets.
00:30:11
Speaker
He's going to come in, punch Obed Vargas in the face. The 37 year old man is going to punch a 20 year old kid in the face. ah What a crash out crybaby loser. Unbelievably sophomoric behavior.
00:30:24
Speaker
from these absolute circus clowns. Let's take a watch at ah how it all starts, Nico. You're gonna see Suarez right here, that's Crash Out Crybaby number one. The first thing you're gonna see is Obed Vargas is laughing at Luis Suarez and mocking him while also not engaging with him physically, ah which is, you know, it's nice to see the 20 year old be the one behaving like an adult in this situation.
00:30:45
Speaker
ah But as you can see, Crash Out Crybaby number two, I believe that's him, yes, right there. And you're going to see him come up and hit Obed in the face right here. help out There it is. Obed's going to go down.
00:31:01
Speaker
And then it kind of pops off from here. I mean, this this in here just god this got kind of crazy. You can see Yamar's in there. Who is this right here, and Nico? Is that Cody Bakes or who is that? Yeah, it's Cody Baker.
00:31:12
Speaker
Cody Bakes was in there scrapping. Yeah, Cody Baker was the first one to be like, you know, you just punch over it. And he's like in his face. And he's the one that isn't getting put in a headlock throughout the rest of the sequence. yeah that he's like the He's the nucleus of that ball of...
00:31:30
Speaker
Anger. you got you got crash You got another Crash Out Crybaby, Falcone, right here. He's the one who's got, I believe that he's the one who got had Cody Bakes in the headlock. But, I mean, so at this point, you've got a lot of ah ah lot of separation between Crash Out Crybaby number one, Luis Suarez.
00:31:50
Speaker
ah Crash Out Crybaby number two is in the midst of it after he just hit a 20-year-old kid in the face. ah But let's keep the ah let's keep the footage rolling here. Yeah, Falcone trying to headlock Cody Bakes. Guy Marz in there trying to break it up.
00:32:03
Speaker
Jackson Rigg is trying to get people off, too. All right, all right. Look at this right here. who's got Is that Jordy Alba? So crash out crybaby number four, I believe, unless I'm ah unless i'm mistaken.
00:32:15
Speaker
Messi is right here. Christian Roldan's got his arm around Messi. ah This is Segovia. Fafa and Osaze are how they like a talk. It's okay, bro. It's okay. i I know you didn't mean it. It's all good. But over here, it's still getting – who's going to try and put Jackson Reagan in a headlock?
00:32:30
Speaker
not Alba, Weighhorst. I don't even know who that is. Apparently um some man named Weighhorst has Jackson Reagan in a headlock. It was kind of, ah Jackson Reagan was like a key character in all this, like more than I would have expected. like ah I would have thought of Jackson Reagan as like the the guy who's like maybe not gonna go right in the middle, but he was, so yeah.
00:32:58
Speaker
Like that that, I mean, this, this part right here, you got multiple, you got multiple headlocks. I had't noticed this Osaze and Fafa throwing it out over here. That's a nice little touch. You got Albert Rusnak and Kim over here.
00:33:11
Speaker
You got Jesus Ferreira circling the outside. He's just making sure everything's nothing's getting too crazy, even though it clearly is. You got a photog in there. She's like, all right. She really is. but good Good spot, man. I was just going to say that Yeah. it's I mean, she probably got some. I want to see the photos she got.
00:33:29
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that she got
00:33:37
Speaker
All right. And then so the is this like an assistant coach rumbling? Oh, wait. And then you get the J-Bell part, too, as well. ah John Bell, another key character in all this. I mean, I think you're going to see it in a in a few seconds here.
00:33:50
Speaker
ah But he he sees let's see. He sees something that sets him off and then he gets in there.
00:34:01
Speaker
Spills over. All right. And so this is maybe this isn't the John Bell part. This is where crash out cry baby. Number one, like really starts to lose it. Yeah. Right there. It's crazy because um the, the, the, he's part of the coaching staff in the whitehead. I, his, his name is blanking on me. He's the former San Jose player that, you know, he, he, he was brought in to help with it.
00:34:26
Speaker
To help with like ah mental health, right? He's the coach that... He's needed in this situation. Right. But he's like getting... he gets... the Yes, that's the one. Absolutely. is he up for Miami?
00:34:40
Speaker
ah No, no. He's for Sounders. Isn't that the guy that... I could be thinking of someone else. I thought there was some guy for the Quakes named that that like everyone hated, but whatever.
00:34:51
Speaker
Yeah, no, no. That is the guy for the Quakes that... that But he was brought in to the Sounders. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. ah Say the name again. Steve Lenhart.
00:35:02
Speaker
Yes, that's him. Steve, that's that's him. That that is ah who was brought in earlier this year. to You know, he's been working out with Paul Arriola, you know,
00:35:14
Speaker
but Mentally and and all of those things And he's the guy that you can come talk to and i got it's It's some sort of role Like that and it's funny because he's trying to stop it But but then he gets Then he like gets into it Yeah I mean Because he he's trying to stop it but then he starts getting punched I don't know who the the that One of the the guys that still had a penny on Just like pushes him from the back So then he has to respond And KKR is trying to get him out of there, and that's why it ends up breaking off, I guess.
00:35:48
Speaker
Cody Bakes is still over here, John. He's like, what's up? What's up? I'm Cody Bakes. You put me in a headlock. I'm not backing down from these old men. ah so But yeah, like this this is ah this is where the story of ah Crash Out Crybaby Luis Suarez really takes an unfortunate turn.
00:36:07
Speaker
He's... yeah like I really think like he doesn't even know what he's mad about or who he's yelling at or why he's doing it. like it's just when he yeah i think It seems clear to me that when he gets in his crash-out mode, there's just like he's like blacked out or something. like i don't even I don't want that to be used as rationalization, like he doesn't know what he's doing, but like, it's just, there's no, there there's no impetus for him to be, to behave like this, like to this extent.
00:36:33
Speaker
And that's why ah Javier Mascherano trying to imply that is even more ridiculous, but ah let's see what he does. i i Well, first, okay. Yep.
00:36:45
Speaker
All right. All right. This is the J bell part. We got it. We got it. We got to break this part down. All right. So you're going to see Jackson Reagan. Jesus Christ. All right. Jackson Reagan is over here. You got one of the crash out cry babies in an orange, uh, orange penny right here. You got Benjamin Kermashi right here.
00:37:02
Speaker
ah Jesus Ferreira has made his way over here. And then this this is going to be the key right here. J-Bell. He's going to see this crash out crybaby punch Jackson Reagan in the face.
00:37:14
Speaker
And then that's when J-Bell comes in. but Yeah, I think that's Agenda who runs up like on the other side. Oh, okay. So it's not this guy
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00:37:24
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who does it. All right. Well, I mean, let's... Oh, yeah. No. Okay. So here's the...
00:37:29
Speaker
That's Iende who what a terrible player. I mean, his missed shot that should go down and enter my hammy history. ah He's so mad about the shot that he missed that he punches Jackson Reagan in the face. You can see he has to reach up because he's too little.
00:37:43
Speaker
I mean, he gets Jackson pretty good. And then where is J bell at this? point I think he came in like from around here. Yeah, and just throws him. God, dude.
00:37:56
Speaker
I mean, but like, that's, yo, that's what you get. Like, what are we talking about? But you see the difference. The Sounder players trying to remove Inter Miami players. I mean, forcefully, but, you know, they're not swinging on them. They're not punching them. They're just trying to just throw them out. It's almost as, like you know, if you are in any position of ah needing to dominate players,
00:38:21
Speaker
ah another person without hurting them. That's what they're doing. They're just throwing them around and they're trying to grab them. And J bell clearly is trying to get him off. So it's not like agenda or cello, uh, who he's swinging to a bunch of people in this mayhem, uh, or of course was kids who goes at over its face.
00:38:41
Speaker
So the center players were involved, but they're trying to get people off. There's one point where Stefan Fry grabs cello, Just like this just so he doesn't go attack people So yeah, I think the sounders kept their composure immensely and and jackson reagan as the biggest tallest dude In there, you know, he's just trying to throw people off and everybody's coming at him because he's the biggest guy in the bra So it's just it's crazy.
00:39:07
Speaker
We've seen we've seen two sounders players, uh get punched in the face in the first, uh 20 seconds of this video so uh yeah a very uh calm and normal way to respond to taking an absolutely massive l uh all right the j i think the j bell part is that's one of the key parts that was uh that was an incredible section that kind of really sets it off back over here
00:39:41
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Jackson is still, Jackson is heated. He's just just towering over everyone.
00:39:53
Speaker
Steph Rye, De La Vega gives Jackson kiss. That was cute.
00:40:02
Speaker
Freddy Juarez was out there too trying to catch people. You had Schmetz like out there. Schmetz is right here. He's like dead in the middle of it. You got Christian Roldan and Paul Areola like, oh, dude, we just we won. It's all good. and you got De La Vega about to, is that dang way right there?
00:40:18
Speaker
So, you know, it's starting it seems like it's starting to simmer down over here. It does. They're starting to celebrate. And then these guys are like, andy i knew we were kind of crashing out cry baby losers maybe oh, damn it, we have to go to the second place ceremony. Okay, well.
00:40:31
Speaker
they're they're getting ready to They're getting mentally prepared for their participation trophy ceremony. And so it's like not even not that hot at this point. But then...
00:40:42
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here i know that they run
00:40:46
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Oh, this was a good part, too. Osaze getting lit with ah whoever that is. that Paul Areola, too? Yeah, i think I want to say that is Paul Areola, yeah.
00:40:58
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on this
00:41:01
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All right. So this is where, how did you, Nico, how did you, ah were you just panning over? Cause you're like, Oh, Suarez is crashing out. ah I bet like what was going through? you No. ah So I'm, I mean, I'm all my attention is at the brawl and, and, and on the aggressors that, that, that, you know, made it all happen.
00:41:18
Speaker
ah Falcone and, and, and DePaul was out there. Cello. And the one of the guys in the in the booth with me, he would they're we're calling this live in Spanish. That's why you hear everything you hear. There is us in the Spanish call, right? Kind of describing what what's happening.
00:41:38
Speaker
And he's like, oh, Suarez just hit... ah Gene in in um and and you hear me say where where is it because I got I got the max soon Zoom right and I don't know what's happening like over there so then I switch it and and what happened was that it looked like he punched it but it was it was the spit and push that happened with gene and that that's when I put the camera on i don't catch the spit but I I catch the interaction afterwards and then i' I'm pretty sure you get the moment
00:42:12
Speaker
of it but like this this uh this group right here i mean this is this is like the moment that uh is going viral like around the entire world right now i mean like i said mean if you look up luis suarez right now uh the uh the pundits in europe have been covering him doing this stuff for the last like 20 years every time there's a new suarez crash out uh it's goingnna It's going to get a lot of ah a lot of press, a lot of headlines.
00:42:42
Speaker
And this this is one of his crazier crash outs. but Pretty much every other time that I can think of where he's crashed out and done something crazy, like bit somebody or said something racist, it's like towards another player.
00:42:53
Speaker
Here he is going at like a team staffer, which is kind of, it's new territory even for this crash out crybaby loser. But like... There's there is nothing, there would be no circumstance where what he did was acceptable anyway, but there's nothing that even happens here where you can even see why he is like that upset.
00:43:14
Speaker
Like we don't know what was said, but it doesn't matter. Like there's just no way. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't. No way. So let's see if you got the actual, okay. Crash out, crash out. Crybaby, loser, loser. Pointing at Gene, pushing that guy.
00:43:31
Speaker
Yeah so so this is after the spit So so what happens is Oh is after Yeah yeah that okay that you what You panned right after okay I get it now i got the Yeah so basically when I hear what What's going on with Gene I i go go up with my camera And I only catch The interaction after he spit on him Including Ustari Trying to like figure things out.
00:43:55
Speaker
And the Seattle Sounder staff member, whose name I will not say for his protection, or just, i don't know if he wants his name out there, ah but he's protecting Gene because he just saw what happened.
00:44:07
Speaker
So he's like, what are you doing? And Luis Suarez continues to try to go at and a Gene, which is wild to me. And so he has to all of a sudden protect, obviously, someone who's defenseless.
00:44:22
Speaker
and And that's just wild. Yeah. ah So yeah, this is right after. And i think this next sequence is the is the weirdest part for me.
00:44:37
Speaker
So like what happens is you you follow him back to where everything was kind of calming down, like where all the players are now just kind of talking and milling about a little bit post-brawl.
00:44:49
Speaker
And he just like, yeah like i mean, we're about to watch it, but he's just like acting like everything is chill and normal. like What but okay, there's just was watch his watch
00:45:04
Speaker
Still crashing out still crashing out still crashing out Can I just say that I'm i'm a little disappointed that that Matt Winters, who you see there trying to get close, didn't just pick up Luis Suarez.
00:45:25
Speaker
I've always wanted to see Matt and Alex in action in this situation. I was kind of hoping that they were just going to start throwing some people around, but I guess they can't really do it. They're PR guys. But I feel like if...
00:45:38
Speaker
if it's a bra like this like you should be able to protect you know you're not hurting nobody but i'm pretty sure that matt winters could pick up that louis suarez and just move him around like a drag dog i can't imagine actually being down there in the heat of this that must have been insane yeah i agree all right so like yeah this is what you're what you're gonna see right here is uh so you've got you've got crash out crybaby number one and this is this is immediately post spit he spit on gene and then kept crashing out uh got separated and so now he's just walking back to where everything was originally taking place watch what uh watch what this crash out crybaby loser does here
00:46:20
Speaker
pe po He's like, oh, look, it's my guy, KKR. Dapping him up. What's up, man? What's going on? How you doing? good job Good job out there today. You guys really beat our ass. Our team's not that good.
00:46:33
Speaker
theyre Okay, and then so, yeah, KKR is like, what and Ferreira comes over. They're just hanging out. Like, it's totally normal. What the hell, Nico? Like, what like what can you even ah what can you even make of the switch up?
00:46:47
Speaker
i just i When I saw that, I was like, this guy's... He's out of his mind. Luis Suarez is a perpetual line stepper. Used to just being able to fight and bite and and say whatever he wants and stop goals with his hand and get thrown out of games because it's just him. So for him, he just goes from mad dogging and and spitting on people to just shaking hands because it's just part of his regular aura and regular normal personality. It's just another day Luis Suarez's shoes. I would love to see you know like stories about Luis Suarez because they have to be just about as bad as Rick James. man i just
00:47:33
Speaker
There should be a segment on Luis Suarez because he's just that weird and and and and and honestly bad person when it comes to these some sort of situations. he's ah He's over here just yucking it up with KKR and Jesus Ferreira.
00:47:48
Speaker
It looks like you got Falcone and Yaimar. It looks like they're fighting, but I'm pretty sure they're actually like, oh, sorry, bro. Like, yeah, no, that was crazy. Yaimar's like... Well, you never know if Yaimar's fighting. And Yaimar's always like like a peacemaker.
00:48:03
Speaker
He's so big. If you ever see him and you saw him in the middle of that, that, that brawl, he's just trying to rip people off, but he does it with this smile on his face. Like, so, so you know, he's like, I'm not threatening, you know, but I'm just bigger than you. So he'll just do it with a big smile. And he, you know, you saw him trying to calm down really good. to paul You saw him trying to calm down.
00:48:24
Speaker
fuckcon i mean, he was all over trying to make it. Okay. But that that's always Jamer's role. He's like this big, bear with a smile on just trying to move people around with his heavy hands and just like he'll do one of these sometimes where he's just like all right man calm down i'm patting you in the back he has a very funny way about just handling business when this sort of thing pops off you gotta you gotta love peacemaker yaymar uh yeah yeah so like nothing's even going on over here anymore and uh this freaking weirdo is just like yeah Hey, oh yeah, KKOR, it's just Ferreira. My guys, what's up, guys? He's just like, oh yeah, look, a hug right here with Ferreira.
00:49:05
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like and and no No one has any idea what he just did. he's just Everyone's just like, oh, it's Luis Suarez. There he is. like You would never know. You would never know what this guy just did. You got DePaul right here. He's like, oh my God, I really saw got i went to this team. Why did I do this to my career? I was on Atletico Madrid. It was fine.
00:49:23
Speaker
I just came here and won 3-1 in the Club World Cup. What have I done to myself in my career?
00:49:32
Speaker
There's Suarez yucking it up with ah Danny Leyva and Tommy Dutra. check He's still doing the rounds, still doing the rounds. Yamar, what's up, man? You pocketed my ass. I suck.
00:49:47
Speaker
Oh, okay. Now, what it what do you think was... Okay, they hooked it out there. They hooked it there. people
00:49:57
Speaker
Anyway, that's it. He loves isolating one v one Sorry, chat. It auto went to the next video. ah All right. I mean, that was a good breakdown, Nico, actually. I got some ah new insight on exactly what happened there. But again, absolutely insane ending.
00:50:19
Speaker
yeah and i mean it's It's early by the way too But if you're if you're watching this Give the video a like ah Share, subscribe We're the super chat at guys fellas I mean that's a breakdown That's a John Madden breakdown on what happened So let us know What you guys thought we got ah We got one super chat to lead it off. Zippy coming in with the five. Thank you. And also, ah thank you guys for all the love and support you showed on the postgame live last night. That was insane. We were at the stadium streaming for four and a half hours, and it was kind of mind-blowing-like.
00:50:55
Speaker
how everyone was hanging out all night and, uh, and supporting the show. Who's awesome. So love and appreciate you guys. Zippy asks, y'all know anything about the fans fighting outside the stadium as well? Wild night. What a win.
00:51:06
Speaker
I hadn't heard that there was any fan fights. Uh, if there was, doesn't exactly, uh, shock me given the team of, uh, crash out cry baby losers that they support. Perhaps they, uh, also, uh,
00:51:20
Speaker
are emblematic of some of those qualities i i will say i will say ah in any situation where there's members of a fan base that are behaving some type of way it doesn't generalize the the whole fan base uh noah and i were out there way before the game yesterday filming content and uh met a couple of inter miami supporters that had like made the trip on short notice and stuff they were perfect they were very nice They did not. i guarantee you they were not the type of guys who were fighting anybody in the parking lot. So even if even if there was some Miami fans acting a fool and fighting in the parking lot, I'm not going to do something where I all inner Miami fans are all like this or all like that. It's not all of them.
00:52:02
Speaker
ah But if there was like a residual fighting that spilled out in the parking lot between fans, wouldn't yeah know I didn't hear of anything at all. I i did walk afterwards. I i will say, yeah admittedly, I did stop an older...
00:52:23
Speaker
ah Sounder fan who was maybe was a little bit, were very intoxicated and he was kind of coming at this mom with two teenage kids ah look and just kind of saying things about Messi and stuff and she's like, she's clearly freaking because she doesn't want her kids going at him because they're teenagers where they're they might act on their own.
00:52:44
Speaker
So I just grabbed them and I said, hey, i just hey you just wouldn could have come over here, just relax and He's like, oh, but I got to tell them my piece about Messi. And I was like, oh, I'll hear it. No, you don't. I'm trying to get him. Exactly. you and I'm just trying to get him over.
00:52:59
Speaker
ah right It was right in front of like the hot dog stands. and and And I mean, that's probably the only thing that I saw. Good job, Nico. You were channeling your inner game art, peacemaking. Yes. Obviously in a tighter package, the fun size. but But yes, I definitely trying to be a peacemaker out there.
00:53:17
Speaker
Joey says a Miami fan without a ticket for our section sucker punched me in the bread basket while security ushered them out of our area. That guy got kicked out. That is crazy, man. Sorry that happened. but That's terrible.
00:53:29
Speaker
That's like... Oh, man. there's
Celebrating the Sounders' Achievement and Team Identity
00:53:33
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i hate to hear that. Yeah. It's just ridiculous. Like you were saying earlier, kind of like yeah overshadow, not overshadows at all, but it's just something that you don't expect or necessarily want to be talking about. We're talking about it right now, but I mean, like we had to break down the video.
00:53:51
Speaker
Yeah, no, and it is to just kind of bring it up, bring up a a ah Brighter spot on on on things that should be Eradicated right and um That In some sort of way i thought that The sounder players all Really held it together because It could have if if the sounder Players decide to throw blows It's a full on like Battleground like you know yeah and And I've seen it Spalled over like that i remember there's a Columbia Paraguay game where
00:54:25
Speaker
Chilaverda, a goalkeeper at the time, i don't know if he gets spit on or he spits on somebody and then like a Columbia player hits him with like a flying kick and then it's just and punches everywhere. So the sound of players could have reacted and and they they were almost in the right to do so, but they didn't.
00:54:42
Speaker
they they They were, they took the high road. and And I think that's important to what really kept this from blowing up even more. Rhombus with the $5. Thank you, Rhombus.
00:54:55
Speaker
Rhombus, did you see... Did you guys see the photo of the players crashing the concert stage next door at Wamuu Theater? Pauly with the trophy on his head. I haven't i haven't seen that yet. I'll have to check check that out.
00:55:06
Speaker
I do know... ah we were We were watching Georgie's Instagram Live from the from the locker room last night, and ah the squad was incredibly lit.
00:55:19
Speaker
So that's what you want to see. That's what you want to see after a ah title win. Celebration. Beer in trophy and beer getting chugged out of trophy. That's what you want to see.
00:55:32
Speaker
Yeah. P. Magno asks, thank you for the two. P. Magno asks, do we know the extent of CR7's injury? yeah I mean, do you know what's up with that? He's got something, but, I mean, he looked pretty damn good yesterday.
00:55:45
Speaker
Yeah, he looked great. um Yeah, I thought his recovery speed was there. i thought that he wasn't slowing down on challenges. He played the entire game. ah But, no, Brian Spencer didn't quite – go into it.
00:56:03
Speaker
ah we we we We knew about it. We suspected it. ah We didn't catch it immediately until he said it on KJR. And then you could just make the assumption that the player he was talking about was Christian Rodin.
00:56:16
Speaker
ah But I don't know what the injury is. It could be just something that players deal with chronically or something like that. But we'll definitely look into it when the team gets back.
00:56:31
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ah Reese is saying that the guy that punched Joey actually got arrested in addition to kicked out. So that would be yeah that would be a nice small victory in that situation.
00:56:43
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ah
00:56:46
Speaker
All right. Kirsten rolled on, was hammered. Hell yeah. i'm I'm glad they they got to celebrate Absolutely. Take a load off. You know, it's been a... Well, they got a week off. Oh, that's phenomenal. And it's been emotional. You know, it's been hectic.
00:57:03
Speaker
ah There's been so much on this team, right? Because of... ah They haven't had a ah title in so long. So there's all these things that...
00:57:16
Speaker
I think the entire team needs the rest and not just physically, but mentally. in And in I'm glad that they were able to celebrate. Nico, what do you think of like the whole kind of talking point of the symbolism of the matchup, like clash of ideologies,
00:57:33
Speaker
like it being a matchup of teams that do it in very different ways. And what Paul Rothrock was talking about, about the method of ah actually developing a foundation and developing your players winning out over the, we're just going to try and buy Lionel Messi and all his friends and hope that that wins us everything without thinking anything else more about it.
00:58:01
Speaker
I thought it was the the biggest story going into this game. It's how I opened my radio call in Spanish. You know, I i said it was a game of culture, tradition, passion, community,
00:58:22
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and ah organic fandom against generic...
00:58:30
Speaker
money-made build-up success and designated and emphasizing just star power and trajectory and name all going at against each other. um And I thought that the Sounders were going to win because of their foundation and those pillars that were set a lot longer and in stone and had more...
00:58:57
Speaker
more balanced than anything that Miami had, had built, right. The whole pink phony club, all that stuff. I mean, those are things that you can say about Miami sometimes because it's,
00:59:09
Speaker
it's a team that's kind of built on that ah sense of just let's get success quickly like that. ah And the Sounders just with their academy, their foundation, ah the way they've kind of gone about business from the very beginning. And this includes with, you know, the Nicoladeros and the Raul Reyes and the Dempsey's and the Opa, Feby Martins. I mean, yes, those were big names, but they're never to the extent of a David Beckham or a...
00:59:36
Speaker
ah I don't know, Schweinsteiger. They've never needed to just put fans in the stands by getting all these big name players because there there is a true following. There is a a culture built since 1974. And that's what makes the Seattle Sounders one of the biggest teams in in in in MLS.
00:59:59
Speaker
Yeah, like um I'm not faulting Inter-Miami for going on after and ah signing Lionel Messi. I think any club that has the connection and opportunity to do that would be incredibly stupid to not do that. That's like the holy grail of any player you can add to your team. But I think what this proves is that ah that doesn't guarantee you anything in the way that a lot of people were saying that it did.
01:00:28
Speaker
When Lionel Messi first went to Inter-Miami, lot of the narratives, a lot of the comments you would see were, oh, he's going to's going to win everything. He's going to destroy those scrub-ass MLS teams, and which was always a little silly because, realistically, that guy has destroyed every league. like I mean, he's only played in La Liga and the French Ligue 1 before this league, but he's been ah destroying UEFA Champions League defenders.
01:00:56
Speaker
for like 20. So the fact that he came here, one MVP last year, it has been putting up ridiculous numbers that never was going to say anything about like the league or the level of competition anyway, in the way that people were saying it did.
01:01:08
Speaker
But I mean, i think now a lot, there's a lot of people with ah egg on their face with how, That game went because I mean, you could see it in our comments leading up to the game. There was people talking so much shit with nothing, nothing else, nothing else at all to their analysis of what they thought would happen other than that. Oh, what one team has Messi and the other team doesn't.
01:01:29
Speaker
How did that work out? how did that work out and also ah why are those same people not uh up in our tick tock anymore why are they mass reporting our tick tock to get our stream kicked off when we didn't even really say anything that crazy other than call their team a bunch of crash out crybaby losers which they objectively are so like that's uh i think that just kind of to me was a symbolic of just uh What you do when you, whatever point that you thought you were making completely falls apart and you have to watch it fall apart and combine that with the personality trait of people who can't admit that, ah you who have like a pathological incapability of admitting that they were wrong.
01:02:15
Speaker
And this is what you get. But ah also, like, ah I don't know. That's that's that's what happens, man. Like, it's not it's not this simplified. It's not a simplified game of ah let's go get messy.
01:02:30
Speaker
Luis Suarez. Jordy Alba, Sergio Busquets, throw Rodrigo DePaul in there for good measure. They bought ri Rodrigo DePaul like two, three weeks ago thinking, oh, well, if we just plug him in, then we're going to be unstoppable. no way No way anyone beats us now. We got Rodrigo DePaul.
01:02:47
Speaker
How did that work out? They're starting that guy on the wing. He's not like... Mascherano, outside of his terrible press conference, and I don't know what he's doing, like, moving Rodrigo DePaul up a line where he was not and is not effective at all.
01:03:03
Speaker
So you just have this, like, mismatched situation where you've got a big name playing out of position, not contributing anything. Sick transfer, guys. Sick, like, fifth DP that you were able to get in under a loophole. It just doesn't work like that.
01:03:19
Speaker
what we saw last night is, is what happens when, uh, you put a team that's really about it. That's actually done the work to compete and win in this league against a team that didn't against the team. That was like just trying to cut corners by the most expensive big name players that they, uh, that they could, and then just called it, called it a day like that.
01:03:39
Speaker
What we saw in that field last night proves that that's what happened. So, uh, and Yeah, so no that's a good segue into just maybe talking a little bit about the game so we don't just talk about the brawl and the things, the general, um you know, what was was left over of the game.
01:03:56
Speaker
ah but But to what you were saying, you know, for... all the people that have been following La Mance Courture, Sandra Hart, I mean, we, from the very beginning of this year had highlighted what Craig Weibel had been able to do with limitations and the group that they were putting together and the ideas that were there, um,
01:04:20
Speaker
At least I thought that they were going to be at least third it in the West. They looked like they could do way more than that at this point in time. But the collective of of of players was always going to be, to me, a talented bunch. And if healthy with Jordan Morris and Albert Rusnak, I mean, this team could be very good.
01:04:45
Speaker
There are spots that you still need some help in, but the core group, just showed you how far they can get. And and the system, the ideas that were set by Brian Smetzer, this could be his best coaching job in his career.
01:05:02
Speaker
<unk>d I'd have to say that this year, the way the team is working, the way he's using his substitutions, how... it doesn't skip beat and every single guy going in understand their role.
01:05:19
Speaker
I think that there's a ton of credit that has to go to Brian Precky, um, ah Freddie Juarez and Andy Rose. Let me pause you right there because Jake actually brought that up in his super chat. Thank you, Jake. Appreciate you.
01:05:35
Speaker
Can we give a shout out to the coaching staff like Precky and Freddie? I think our next man up mentality paired with the new tactics won us this trophy. All right, Nico, continue cooking. Yeah, and don't let me forget about Tommy Dutra. I mean, absolutely ah stellar job to get this team so in sync that you could just plug-in play players to this extent. we And it hasn't all been perfect. And that's the beauty of it, right? You got to try to find a way to get you where you need to get.
01:06:08
Speaker
And I've said this before. if If there's one thing that I appreciate about Brian's Metzer is that when there's a storm and things go bad He just holds on to the wheel of that ship and he makes sure that he gets across maybe things are bad Everything's aren't going well, but he just holds on and keeps it on the trajectory and that trajectory ends up Almost always leading to a successful season or a bounce back in the second half of the season or whatever it may be But it's always well but this year
01:06:40
Speaker
For me, it was earlier than than usual. I think that they've challenged themselves more than they ever have from Club World Cup moving forward. And and and i just love everything about how they play. The pressing is as effective and as elite as I've ever seen Sounders team press.
01:07:01
Speaker
their The fluidity of their offense, ah the the the overloads, the the possession spells, absolutely everything about what this team is doing is top notch. So so absolute credit to the entire coaching staff because this was a masterful job. I i feel pretty comfortable doing Saying that this could possibly be b Brian's best coaching job year overall.
01:07:28
Speaker
Yeah, i agree. Especially when you factor in, like like you mentioned, the amount of injuries and adversity and kind of just crazy situations he's had to manage. like with the We haven't even talked about how this team was like in a labor dispute with FIFA about Club World Cup bonuses and stuff.
01:07:46
Speaker
And Schmetz had to like play the middle ground between... you know not discounting his players protest and what they were fighting for but also not like ah criticizing the owner in a way that would like make make the organization look bad like that stuff was not easy to manage either and you throw that in with everything else and the fact that this team has been without ah Jordan Morris basically all year and Albert Rusnak for the entire last part of this tournament and they still won the tournament anyway.
01:08:20
Speaker
I agree. It's definitely, I think it's pretty comfortably Schmetz's best coaching job this year. When you consider the level he's got this team playing at, no matter who is in the lineup, it's remarkable.
01:08:31
Speaker
ah Bad sequels member for six months. Thank you. Appreciate the support. Thanks for calling in last night. You man, we put fans in the stands by actually winning big games. Yeah. Exactly. Like we talked so much within the transfer window discourse about how like a new, like big, shiny, big name player would, ah you know, increase fan interest and engagement and get people hyped a again.
01:08:56
Speaker
That's how you get people hyped again is what, what we saw last night. Hosting games like that, playing in games like that and winning games like that. There were so many people at that game last night, Nico, that it was probably either their first Sounders game or like so it's something that they don't go to a lot like they're more just global footy fans or messy fans.
01:09:17
Speaker
And there's going to be at least some percentage of those people who are like, dude, that was sick. Like, I need to go back to that. Like, we have that here, like, week in, week out, which it's it's not obviously 70K week in, week out with that type of spectacle.
01:09:32
Speaker
ah But, like, you can go to that that stadium week in, week out and, like, see great footy and, like, ah a winning team, a team that's actually competing and contending for and and winning trophies.
01:09:44
Speaker
I think a lot of people, when they go to games like that, that haven't been to it, they experienced that and they want to come back. And I think that game as much as anything, I think a lot of those people, they were thinking of it from the perspective of like, Oh, I'm going to go watch messages. Yeah.
01:10:00
Speaker
destroy the Seattle Sounders because, you know, he's goaded and it's an MLS team. And they just, those people, they just don't have the base of knowledge to to know that a different outcome is possible.
01:10:12
Speaker
And for them to go there and see the Seattle Sounders destroy inner Miami, that could create new fans. So like, ah that's why, that's why I've been saying this whole time with the transfer window discourse, it's not, whether they make a move or not is not,
01:10:28
Speaker
the thing that you should care the most about the thing that you should care the most about is if they're winning games playing good footy contending for and winning trophies and if they're if they're doing that then the uh the interest will be there the support will will be there you just gotta win and uh last night they did so in as impression of impressive a fashion as uh i've seen uh nico did you have anything else on that sort of topic before we talk about the game a little bit more ah Yeah, no, I think that you're absolutely right. i think that the style of play will attract ah more fans, right? I heard from mike my sister and ah her boyfriend and my my dad, who is a casual, you know, watcher.
01:11:10
Speaker
And they were but like, man, I didn't know the team was playing this well. And I didn't realize that there were all these players that were in such good form. And, you know, who's Rothrock and, you know, De La Vega has been, you know,
01:11:22
Speaker
so good. Like, you know, why is that? There was interest from people that usually isn't quite there because they got to see the product. ah and And that product was phenomenal, right? Is that the volume of play, the purposeful possession.
01:11:35
Speaker
I thought that the team is playing good ball, ah entertaining soccer, right? and And that goes long ways. So that's kind of what I would say about what the style of play can provide you and how it can ignite new interest and revive a lot of that that was kind of missing for a little bit a couple of years after the ccc after the CCL Champions Cup.
01:12:01
Speaker
I mean, that that that after that, I feel like it went a little stale, and now you're kind of recatching, reigniting some of that. Liam becoming a new YouTube member. Thank you, Liam.
01:12:12
Speaker
Welcome. Appreciate the support. Everyone who hasn't followed Liam's lead and become a YouTube member, strongly consider it. Great way to support the show. Also, if everyone ah could please like the video and sub to the channel, if you haven't, that'd be great. we got We've got a bunch of new subs from this tournament.
01:12:32
Speaker
So hopefully anyone who's new, uh enjoys the show enjoys the content and plans on sticking around but uh that's been one kind of cool thing is uh when when the team you cover plays messy and then beats them like that you get a lot of uh get a lot of eyes on your uh on your stuff that might not necessarily be otherwise so uh And when you work hard You did a four hour show yesterday You went live four hours After two and like two or what and a half Or whatever in the morning After two and a half hours or or three of ah pregame And game I mean man that's Credit to you I mean you already know that ah On like a final where you're playing Messi We're going have to maximize that No I mean it was content from ah Nine o'clock in the morning till Two in the morning Last night, it was a it was a crazy day, but ah it was awesome. I'm running on two hours of sleep. I don't care. I'm chilling.
01:13:26
Speaker
Nico, I want to do a hit on something you were talking about. They're talking about this team's style and just like the level of footy, the type of footy that they're playing right now. um One of my favorite things about watching this team play since the club world cup is ah like you said, how effective they've been pressing.
01:13:44
Speaker
It is the best press I've ever seen from a Sounders team. I think it's the best in the league right now. And ah it is so fun to watch.
01:13:55
Speaker
There's nothing more satisfying than watching them just put these teams under all this pressure, relentless. That's the word I would use relentless. every single minute of every single game.
01:14:07
Speaker
They are just on top of these teams, forcing them into bad turnovers and bad parts of the field, starting off dangerous attacks. And it's just been like, I think a hallmark of how they've been playing in their, their identity and all that.
01:14:24
Speaker
And I was thinking last night, I was like, how did they, like why are they so much better at that than, than they used to be or anyone else in the league? right now because every a lot of teams not every team Minnesota United God knows does not try to press a lot of teams try to press ah but it can be a dangerous way to play when you're playing all out like that level of intensity and throwing yourself at the other team all the time because yeah you know the more you do that the more chances the other team has to catch you out and maybe you get out of position or you you tend to those teams who press a lot tend to leave themselves open and
01:15:03
Speaker
like give up more goals and more dangerous opportunities, but Seattle doesn't have that issue. So I was just like, how are they ah able to do that? And I just think that like an effective press, it's not just about, uh,
01:15:19
Speaker
running at guys that's not what it's all about it's about like timing and to have the timing correct and the triggers correct everybody has got to be connected they have to know where they're going to be when the other guys are going to be running okay when this guy's running at this guy i need to get to this spot early right or like that you you base where you're going, where you're pressing on what the guy before you is doing. So like whatever situation you're in, like whatever triangle it might be or whatever the case may be, everyone has got to be on the exact same wavelength. Everybody's got to be connected.
01:15:57
Speaker
if you have that like understanding and understanding amongst each other and you all just know how to play together, that is how you create... ineffective press.
01:16:08
Speaker
So I think like that trait in particular is sort of like emblematic of this team's identity, but also how connected of a team it is and how well they understand each other.
01:16:22
Speaker
and how well there they're able to play together and really just create these game states where they're just swarming the other team. Even this Inter-Miami team, like I thought in the first half the press was so good. like they They didn't know how to deal with it. Nobody know knows how to deal with it right now. So I don't know. Am I am i cooking there?
01:16:41
Speaker
Absolutely. No, that that that' ah but that was part of it. And that that's why the Sanders were so much better with less possession, with... um Their principles established from the very beginning. Ustari had issues getting out of the back. Ian Frey had a headache the entire game on the ball, off the ball, because Pedro De La Vega, both defensively and offensively, just pushed him to the max.
01:17:08
Speaker
And I think he just cooked him. He cooked Ian Frey. um I thought that Busquets couldn't get on the ball either. That repress moments were phenomenal, right? that That active defending was so good last night.
01:17:22
Speaker
They were swarming at guys. And then even in their emergency defense, so many jerseys behind the ball, ah keeping that ah that shape intact, keeping blocks compact, not allowing...
01:17:39
Speaker
Lionel Messi to get in those half spaces. Ovid Vargas was relentless and a tick, a shadow of Lionel Messi the entire game.
01:17:50
Speaker
That's why i think there was so much frustration with Ovid Vargas because he was the entire game on Lionel Messi consistently. Reed Baker-Whiten helping on that side.
01:18:02
Speaker
Pedro helping on that side. I mean, his defensive contributions cannot be overlooked. I think Pedro de la Vega sets the tempo. He's a tempo setter. He's the the X factor ah on the attacking end, in my opinion.
01:18:19
Speaker
So many ways that he would affect the game every single time he get the ball, whether it was direct by... getting in you know balls over the top, ah whether it was coming back and and regaining possession.
01:18:34
Speaker
On the ball, he's dribbling. his his ah Every single service into the box had had venom. but They were just dangerous. Every single of those early crosses, De La Viga was outstanding.
01:18:48
Speaker
Ovid Vargas, as I mentioned, with the two-way defending, and Paul Rothrock, another guy that just helps that press so consistently. right so He is so good at it. He's so good at it. So good at it, right? So those are the things that, as you mentioned, and we could just continue to just talk about the the defensive pressure and the defensive pressure composure and and and how resourceful they were when things even went sideways.
01:19:19
Speaker
like the Jackson Reagan ah slide tackle, right? the It comes with a moment where, you know, there is a break away. There is a a counter that doesn't go your way.
01:19:31
Speaker
And Rodrigo DePaul has a shot on goal, and Jackson Reagan flies by, takes the ball perfectly, right? That sort of thing is what was outstanding about this team's pressing, repress, and just overall defense against Inter-Miami.
01:19:47
Speaker
Jackson Reagan owns Luis Suarez for that. Luis crash out crybaby Suarez. Sorry, I'm going to try and use his full name. A couple more super chats. Thank you guys. Appreciate you.
Post-Victory Reflections and Player Highlights
01:19:57
Speaker
hope you're enjoying basking in this league's cup win and this, you know, sending, ah sending the Barca boys back to Fort Lauderdale in shame like that. It just, it doesn't get better. does. it it It's this one needs to be basked in.
01:20:13
Speaker
And yeah, having like a week break from games right now is just so perfect because not only can the players get some rest, tackle this stretch run before the playoffs, but, uh, it just gives time to, uh, to bask even more. You know, if they had like a, what if they had like a midweek MLS game coming up on Wednesday, that would suck. Don't even need to think about that. Don't even need to think about that.
01:20:37
Speaker
Can just, uh, bask in the, uh, in the wind. And then also kind of like the, uh, the attention, I guess, that this team is going to be getting in the coming days.
01:20:49
Speaker
Not just from how badly they beat Lionel Messi and the Barca boys, but ah from beating them so bad that they had like an absolutely legendary, iconic crash out of historic proportions uh m5 underscores coming in with the five thank you for the support appreciate you 2025 mvps brian cr7 and the l scorcher hot take artists thank you appreciate that uh i'll take uh credit as an on-field mvp but uh chat 2025 mvps who you got i mean for me it's uh it's christian so there was a pundit who was uh
01:21:28
Speaker
Saying that like It's classic It's classical national pundit where they're like Oh they don't have Albert Rustak That's their best player And I'm just like Best best attacker maybe Christian Roldan is their best player If you move ball you would know that Absolutely yeah I think he's the MVP So far Right I mean i put You know
01:21:57
Speaker
Yim is a defender, but he's been, you know, stand out. was He was one of the MVPs of last night. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah he's been phenomenal all year, but because of, because the biggest feature for this system is the pivots is gotta be one or the other that at this moment in time are your best players. Right. And because Christian Roldan is the one and only six is the pillar of that, that, that function in pivot.
01:22:21
Speaker
I, would have to give it to him. And it's been his leadership and it's been his ah performances through Club World Cup, in leagues play, the amount of minutes, the wear and tear, ah everything that k Christian Roldan does for this team. I would have to say that maybe in stats, right, you can look at ah and Albert and you can look at, you know, I don't know, Vosovsky. But when it comes to being the most valuable player, has to be Christian Roldan.
01:22:53
Speaker
Couple of good chats here on ah the topics that we're that we're talking about at the moment. Max says, Moz pointed out to me that one of the biggest flaws of Leo Chu was he wasn't in sync on the counter press, left space open at the wrong times, nullifying the entire effort.
01:23:08
Speaker
I never, like, paid attention to it that much, but, like... That actually makes sense. And as far as ah like, that's what I'm talking about with it's not just about running like in sync. That's a good way to put it. It's gotta be in sync and everyone who's involved in whatever sequence it is has to be on the same page and know what the other guy is doing. And that's how you get those situations where it seems like Seattle's defender is there to break up the pass and win the ball.
01:23:40
Speaker
ah Before the guy who's trying to receive the pass, they it's like they already know where you're gonna where you're gonna be because the guy in front of them has forced them into making a decision with the ball that like is very predictable, right? So like, I think.
01:23:57
Speaker
It's like to ah to be a starter and a regular player on this team, you have to, that's like the key thing. I think that you like the baseline that you have to be ah in sync with the rest of the team on. And then if you can do that and add that with whatever ah other qualities you can use to impress the coaching staff, that's how you get on the field under Brian Schmetzer, like energy, effort, defense, work rate, all that.
01:24:24
Speaker
ah So yeah I dont mean I don't know I don't remember thinking that about Leo Chu But like Stuff like that makes sense ah More so even than like Lack of statue production right Like if he was doing all that stuff Then it would probably counterbalance it i thought that was Leo Chu's problem And the reason Why he was never going to work And the reason why he he was relegated all the way to the stands, not even the bench. And it was a lack of effort. It was a lack of pressing moments. There's non-negotiables for Brian Smetzer. And that's one of them is effort and his press and his doing all the other stuff away from you just being on the ball, right?
01:25:06
Speaker
and Not to mention the fact that I think Leo was very one-dimensional, but ah not to get ah out of out of subject here in almost an hour and 30 minutes into the show. ah but but But what I will say is that Pedro De La Vega was brought in to do a whole bunch of other things.
01:25:23
Speaker
And what I've been more impressed by has been that has been his ah read on, on the game. It's been his, uh, Defensive triggers has been in his tracking. It's been in his physicality.
01:25:36
Speaker
I mean, yesterday he gets scolded by Lionel Messi. He gets scolded by Roger Goodepaw. He gets scolded by his idols and continues to just have the mentality that, you look you know what, it's Messi. Yes, he's he's yelling. He's upset. He wants me not to come in.
01:25:51
Speaker
But the next tackle, going to come in harder. I'm going to keep that intensity. I thought he was phenomenal yesterday. i don't want to also... go off without saying that I thought that Alex Rodin was great, right? He gets match MVP.
01:26:05
Speaker
He gets the assist. He gets the goal. We asked him about the moment where, you know, it kind of feels like Christian is going to take the PK and then he takes it. I thought that maybe he asked for it or maybe it was not part of the – the plan, but apparently was the plan the whole time. He was always going to take that PK. And the whole reason why Christian was on it was to confuse the keeper.
01:26:27
Speaker
So all the mental games yesterday were, were phenomenal. ah But, but I thought Alex was great. i thought Alex was great pushing forward. I thought Alex was great defending. I thought that he had agenda in, in a choker's hold and would not let go. And,
01:26:46
Speaker
Patenton had an awful game, and a a lot of it had to do with his ah defensive effort. I think him and Paul worked in excellent sync and and he deservedly got the men of the match. And this is a guy that's had ups and downs that had some difficulties this year. and And going back to last year, he talked about it after the game and he said, you know, it hasn't been an easy road. And, you know, I'm just happy to be able to have get that, that, that men of the match and help the team get this title.
01:27:17
Speaker
So credit to Alex Roldan, cause he does get a lot of heat sometimes. And he's had some inconsistent play in the past and he's really good. kind of hit a switch.
01:27:28
Speaker
It was center back Alex Rodin for me that that's where I see that that momentum shift on him. And after that, it's been so powerful, so good on regardless of what position he plays on the field, right? Midfield, oh ah right back, ah center back. I mean, Alex Rodin has been phenomenal, uh,
01:27:50
Speaker
in the second part of the season and maybe even a little bit before that. Jesus Ferreira, for all the heat that he's gotten, he didn't have a perfect game. he was't He didn't get on the ball enough, but everything else that he was doing, when he would get the ball, he was very accurate with it.
01:28:05
Speaker
He was the guy sewing those passing patterns. He started the sequence that led to the Osase goal. He was fantastic in this tournament. I don't want to hear it. The fact that he...
01:28:19
Speaker
does not have bigger stat sheet production this year is unlucky. He's had like three or four goals, three, ah like a couple of which were like barely offside where he wasn't even the one offside. It was the person before him who was offside.
01:28:32
Speaker
He ripped one off the post last night. He's getting snake bit in front of goal. I feel bad for him because if he got a couple of those goals to go in, ah we wouldn't still be doing any discourse at all about whether that was a good trade.
01:28:43
Speaker
That was a fantastic trade. i I have nightmares about what could have happened to this team if they hadn't made that trade. If you don't think that was a good trade at this point, I cannot help you. Like, you are deluded. Exactly.
01:28:55
Speaker
Exactly. Ferrer has been such a core component of that offense. His versatility has been needed, has been outstanding, and he just understands the game at a higher level. So he could...
01:29:09
Speaker
just kind of roll and and move and and play off of his teammates. And the the more he's with this team and the more he understands where they're going to be, the better he is. So I'd have to just say that the The dominance yesterday should today against this Inter-Miami team does come from having those sort of guys like Jesus Ferreira that allow everyone else to be better, right? Maybe, like you said, I'm not getting on the stat sheet, but I'm the guy that's making that pass before the pass before the goal.
01:29:47
Speaker
I'm the guy that's pressing what I need to press. I'm the guy that's moving around where I need to be. I collect things. the ball where I need to. I occupy the space that I need to. He's such a team player.
01:29:59
Speaker
Ferra is such a team player. And that's exactly what makes this collective team as good as they are because everybody's playing for the guy next to him, right? and And that just...
01:30:11
Speaker
It's not something you see often. It's not something you see often. So I got to give credit to Jesus as well. um And just to wrap it up, because I do got to take my dog off for a walk.
01:30:22
Speaker
Yeah, I hear it in a little bit. oh The substitutions. Very good bye by Brian. And look, I still got to ask him why there's this thing to take out – ah Pedro so early every time, but it works. And and and i'm I don't base it on the result, right? that That's not it. It's just on the moment of the game. And I thought that in the last two, including at the LA Galaxy game, it felt like the right moment to bring in certain players, right? So even if I don't want to see Pedro off, I understand why he's doing it. And the guys coming in
01:31:01
Speaker
are proven it, right? So Kalani and Danny Leyva come in and both did did did a great job, right? Kalani is a guy that is a two-way player that he presses, he moves, um he ah understands the role, he gives you a guy that you could also shift and move if you need to move around to a back line of three as they did at the end of the game, right? So Those are the things that I feel like Brian is just seeing, right?
01:31:31
Speaker
It's almost like in the Matrix when, you know, Neo becomes the one and he just sees the different. Brian's just seeing the game at a different level right now. And and that's what's helping this team out. Georgie Menungu, that was a necessary...
01:31:46
Speaker
spark plug into that game that was the play the game that was the play of the game and it paid off absolutely paid off man but he did it in a way where he is not making substitutions just to make them but he is very purposeful with them and and this work man so uh from having a rotation as heavy as he has I just have been impressed by everybody's demeanor, their execution level.
01:32:16
Speaker
Georgie's a guy that he's been dying to get on the field, right? And that when he causes that PK, maybe he could have ah taken another touch. Maybe he could have...
01:32:28
Speaker
He made more of that play initially, but when he gets that ball so far left, he understands that he can cause that that PK by just edging his body. So is that intelligence level by Georgie and then he gets up and he's hyped and he gets everybody up of their seats, right? li He was lit.
01:32:49
Speaker
man, just is the collective part of of what everyone is doing that I'm just amazed by. Danny Leyva's ability to connect and set pieces, right? Just, I cannot say enough about everybody, man. And and that's why this win was so big, why it was so important, why it feels so huge is because of that, man. So I just, um I think that,
01:33:16
Speaker
and MLS play is gonna be different. And although they will have a very good kind of impulse from from this tournament,
01:33:27
Speaker
we'll see what happens with injuries and things like that. But even if they don't get to and MLS cup, even if they don't win it, I would consider this a successful season. i agree, man. And I know Brian would probably hate me saying this and the players would too, but I think that they have done a phenomenal job in this tournament.
01:33:48
Speaker
They've brought silverware home. They've given themselves some breathing room. ah and more importantly, they've put together a team that just plays great soccer and that can honestly play with anyone. And now soccer is not linear.
01:34:05
Speaker
Soccer can be very circumstantial. And that's why I'm not saying that they're going to go out here and just win all their games all the way to MLS Cup, but that they have a chance that they're a contender.
01:34:16
Speaker
I'm absolutely behind that. Hell yeah. All right. Well, Nico, ah I'll let you bounce on that. Take the dog out. I'm going blast through these last super chats and then get out of here myself.
01:34:30
Speaker
But thank you for tapping in this morning, brother. It was I was i was talking. i was talking mess last night. I was like, let's not let's do it later. I don't want to get up.
01:34:41
Speaker
I guess I was so fried, but honestly, i don't I don't know what I was talking about. There was never any way that we weren't getting up and laying this one down, even if it was slightly later than usual. Look, so any time that the Sounders number 10 outshines the biggest 10 in ever arguably soccer history, we got to do a show early. and It could be on two hours sleep, no hours sleep.
01:35:07
Speaker
It was necessary. It was important. It had to be Sounder fan base, have this moment. Enjoy it. This is what it's about. Give credit to this team.
01:35:19
Speaker
Uplod them. Continue to support them the rest of the year. and keep watching Love & Scorcher. Sounder are hard. Nico Moreno, Arolo, Sounder, I mean, Sucker Down Here on Thursdays.
01:35:32
Speaker
that There is my shameless plug for Pulsar Sports as well. If you want to look at that video, we've got a whole bunch of content as well from the scrums here today. So I appreciate you, Ari. Thank you so much.
01:35:43
Speaker
I appreciate everybody, all the comments, all the interactions yesterday and before the game. Love everybody. Later, Nico.
01:35:54
Speaker
all right uh i also unfortunately have to vacate shortly here i mean i could stay on here and uh bask in this stuff all day unfortunately i do have work
01:36:11
Speaker
So I'm going to blast through these last super chats here and then bring us home. ah Zippy Tuna with the $2. Thank you. Appreciate you.
01:36:23
Speaker
How about RBW being totally solid at left back? I'm glad you brought that up. I'm glad you brought that up because RBW is a guy that was taking all this heat during the club world cup because they started him against Atletico Madrid. And there was like three or four sequences in the game where he was under pressure defensively.
01:36:40
Speaker
and had one play where he got called for a penalty that got VAR'd off. it wasn't even a penalty. And people went, and rb w i mean that is why That is why you let RBW start against Atletico Madrid. That's why you show that faith in him.
01:36:59
Speaker
Even if it's at risk of him maybe making a mistake on defense playing against Atletico Madrid. To develop your young players, and to have them actually make an impact for the first team, you have to give them opportunities. You have to show that faith and confidence in them.
01:37:16
Speaker
And if you do that and they show that they're up for it, when you're in a situation where your left back gets a red card for owning Gabriel Peck and you need that player to start, he's going to be ready.
01:37:33
Speaker
RBW was ready. He was massive last night. On defense. It wasn't like it was ah he was cross-merchanting or bombing forward the whole game.
01:37:44
Speaker
He was a dog. And if you don't show him that faith earlier in the season, do you get that level performance out of him?
01:37:53
Speaker
That's what you should ask yourself next time but before you come into the Lobbing Scorchers chat weirdly crashing out about RBW. I remember. I remember the RBW Club World Cup Crash out brigade weirdos. There's like five of you.
01:38:10
Speaker
That's why you don't do that.
01:38:13
Speaker
Rob member for five months. This is Jordan Morris eraser. I don't, uh, I don't know like, uh, what we were talking about. That was, uh, that makes you say Jordan Morris eraser.
01:38:29
Speaker
What we might've.
01:38:31
Speaker
It's been a crazy season for the number nines. Like, because the thing is, Jordan Morris, every time he's played, he's looked like an absolute beast. He just has been injured all year.
01:38:43
Speaker
How many goals could he have scored in this system playing at that spot? I mean, you got Moose banging in 15 goals. You got Osase scoring goals for fun. You had Jordan looking like he was in as good a form as he'd ever been in in his career until all the injuries hit.
01:38:59
Speaker
Oh, we got 20 from Luis. Let's go. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. More beer, buddy Ferrari, for all the effort throughout League's Cup. Also by Nico a beer.
01:39:11
Speaker
Can't believe y'all actually started early today. Built different. Built different. Nico was right. we had to We had to hop on early. We had to keep the train rolling. But appreciate the beer money.
01:39:25
Speaker
Glad you guys liked the content throughout all the tournament. we've been We've been sweating our asses off covering this thing. So, appreciate you guys. um
01:39:38
Speaker
all right yeah i mean there's still so many people in here watching but unfortunately gotta i gotta go get some food man i ain't got ain't got no food here i'm hungry i've slept two hours uh but glad that we were able to actually get up and work this one in great show i hope you guys enjoyed basking in the wind uh breaking down the footage nico got of the crash out crybaby losers who uh Must have touched down in Fort Lauderdale by now.
01:40:10
Speaker
I'm sure that was a fun plane ride for them. You know, you know, what's ah one of the, among many, the sweetest things about all this is just like the turmoil that that team is thrown into. Nico was talking about it. Like apparently they were, they could hear in the visiting locker room last night, they were like yelling at each other and shit.
01:40:28
Speaker
I'm sure. Then they had to, then they had to get, they They had to do the participation trophy second place ceremony. ah Post brawl.
01:40:40
Speaker
After starting an insane brawl where Luis Suarez spit on security gene. They had to do the second place ceremony. They had go back down the tunnel. Walk their sorry asses to the locker room. Crash out at each other some more.
01:40:53
Speaker
And then get on a plane and fly back to Florida.
01:40:58
Speaker
Down horrendously bad.
01:41:02
Speaker
I can't even fathom that.
01:41:06
Speaker
The Seattle Sounders sent that entire team's vibes into the most like toxic, turmoil-laden
01:41:15
Speaker
vibe that you could possibly imagine. And that is freaking beautiful.
01:41:22
Speaker
I think that's a good place to call it. we' be Follow me on Blue Sky. I'll let you guys know if there's anything different about this week with like no game or whatever. Noah and I will lay down a show.
01:41:34
Speaker
i'll be streaming on Thursday evening for sure. maybe before then if we deem it necessary or if there's some news or something. But thank you guys for tuning in throughout this whole tournament. Legendary tournament, legendary run.
01:41:47
Speaker
One of the biggest wins in Seattle Sounders history. ah We'll talk about it more, I'm sure, in the coming months and years. But that one was up there with the best of them. Not just for the trophy that was won, but who it was against.
01:41:59
Speaker
The statement that was made with that win. It doesn't get any better than that. So love and appreciate all you guys for supporting the show.
01:42:12
Speaker
This morning, also last night though, the sport all the support we got was crazy. all the All the numbers that our little reels and stuff are doing IG and TikTok are great. Follow us on there. and I'll catch you guys this week. Love you guys. Peace.