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Juve Near 9th Consecutive Scudetto, Milan Defeat Lazio (Ep. 49)
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Introduction and Greetings
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Speaker
Welcome to this idea show. Hello, everybody. We're back with another episode of the City Show. We hope you are doing well, staying safe wherever you are in
Serie A Dynamics: Juve's Dominance
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the world. All right, let's just get right to it. Chloe Nima, title rates over. Yes or no?
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Done. Dusted. Finished. Yes. Over. Done. Finished. I mean, it's been over. I mean, it was always a pipe dream for Lazio and Frinta as well to win. This is Juve's title to lose, and they're not going to do it because they're Juve and they're consistent.
Lazio's Challenges: Depth and Momentum
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All right. Well, Chloe, let's start with you because you got a little spicy towards Lazio at the end of the last episode.
00:00:53
Speaker
Well, I have to say, okay, so they were missing immobile. Okay, that's great. What was that? Because that was alarmingly bad. Yeah. Um, I think, you know, um, like in, in, in England when Leicester City won the Premier League and it was a big kind of underdog story and, um, they teams like that, that come from kind of nowhere to win titles. Um,
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They rely on momentum, I think, and Lazio had great momentum. They were unbeaten for all those games. And, you know, I'm not saying that they're as big an underdog as Leicester City, but, you know, in terms of the fact that Juve are so dominant in Serie A, everyone else is an underdog. And they've had their momentum massively interrupted. And I think that has completely knocked them off course and off track. And it's a shame because it was
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It was really exciting, but it's just never going to happen now, is it? It really isn't. Juve are not going to lose enough games for it to even be close, I don't think.
Milan vs. Lazio: Key Players and Impact
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I had two takeaways from that game. Number one is the fact that Lazio have a very strong starting lineup up to 13 players, but beyond that, they lack the depth that is needed to mount a serious title challenge. And the second thing is,
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Mila, they were good. They were very, very good. This is this is the purely high that we talk about, that we've spoken about. It's short, but sweet. But when it's when it is at its highest, it's damn sweet. And Milan were this was they were so good against Lazio, I thought they completely nullified Lazio in midfield. Chalanoglu was brilliant until he was injured until he had to come off injured. Ibrahimovic, he's got 45 minutes in him, but it looks good. Rebic,
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always scores when he plays now. Now, Milan played really well. I think we should acknowledge that. And let's remember that the last time Lazio lost at home this big was against Inter in 2008 after a storm, a literal storm. The game was almost cold off until 45 minutes before.
Lazio's Champions League Hopes
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So this, you know, Lazio fans shouldn't despair too much. They're still going to make it to the Champions League, which is a huge, huge accomplishment.
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Speaker
They've had a fantastic season. Simon Inzagi is working magic with that team. Luis Alberto, again, he's passing. I mean, I want to frame that man's passing and put it in the Louvre or something. It's beautiful the way he plays. Milenko Itzavic, fantastic.
00:03:39
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I really think they have a great team and they shouldn't be too disappointed. I thought this was more down to lack of depth of squad and Milan being really, really good.
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Speaker
Yeah, I think there's always a middle ground. Lazio were really bad. Milan were really good. I thought it was a tale of maybe a bit of hyperbole on each end. I don't know if Milan is that good. I don't know if Lazio is that bad. But what do you guys think about what Ibra has brought to the team?
Ibrahimovic's Influence on Milan
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Speaker
In my opinion, I don't even think it's necessarily the goal scoring output necessarily that he's bringing. I think this is just more of an attitude thing that is bringing a professionalism, a character.
00:04:18
Speaker
Yeah it's a winning mentality, I mean you know in that way he's a massive, massive help to Pioli because he's won a lot more than Pioli has, he's got a lot more international experience and I think having someone like that around the team and to basically help with the coaching and help
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Speaker
I guess it's kind of the same as Frank Ribery's. He's brought so much experience and he can put his arm around the younger players and say, look, come on, you need to be better than this. And you can't underestimate the value of having a player like that, like John says. It's not just about what he's showing on the pitch.
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Speaker
I mean, this is the role he started having at United during Mourinho's first season with him, isn't it? I mean, he's had it for the Swedish national team for when he played there for the last five, 10 years. I mean, this is what he does. He brings on because he's a winner and he's a super professional. And what he brings on is a professionalism and a level of winning mentality that
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no one that you can't buy. When Rafael Liao, all these younger players, because Milan have a very young squad, I think it's the youngest in the Serie A, and he comes in there and he just puts his arm around them and he leads the way. He raises the concentration level at training, off training, how you live as a professional to win.
00:05:44
Speaker
That is invaluable to a team like Milan who's trying to find their feet again. And that is exactly what you say, John. That's what he does. And he did it, as I said, he did it with the first season with United. And when then he got injured and it all came, the wheels came off. And then a little bit, you know, I think that's the role he's got at Milan. And I think that's if he extends his contract.
00:06:08
Speaker
That's what, that's the role he will have. Um, he will, he will bring in that winning mentality and that winning Milan mentality, that Mila absolutely stupid not to keep him for another season, particularly knowing there's going to be a full, um, sort of reset, I guess you would call it with Rania coming in now. Yeah. Without a doubt. I think it would be insane to keep, not keep him. Um, because he, as I said, I mean, with Maldini and Mila, um, uh, Ibra is the last of that Milan winning.
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you know, the last of the old winning Milan that link to that old past and you can't buy that. So I think it would be mad if they don't keep it.
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I guess it depends what Ragnik wants. You know, sometimes they want to be the top dog, don't they? They don't want another big ego in the dressing room. And I guess it all depends on what he's going to come in and say. But I completely agree. They'd be mad to get rid of somebody who has got such huge experience and can help the players out so
Torino's Struggles and Future Ambitions
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much.
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So on the other side, Juve, they hammer Torino, who yikes, who in the world knows what it could you would you have imagined that they are languishing at the bottom near the bottom of the table? Did anybody envision that? No, no. Like, with all due respect, they haven't got a proper coach, have they? I mean, no.
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His experience is... Well, some would say Mazzarri isn't a proper manager either. I was just about to say that. I would say they've not had a proper coach since for the past...
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Speaker
I mean, look at it, Ventura Mihailovic Mazzari, Jesus, what a sorry read. Yeah, at least you've actually heard of them. I mean, Marie no longer. I mean, come on, the biggest job he's had is frozenoni. I mean, how much of a lack of ambition do you really want? I mean, it is ridiculous. And then I noticed and he's
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in his delusional post-match comments. He thinks that they matched you in the game and that they think they were the better team, but they had some problems in attack and they had some problems in defence and they had some problems with their mentality. So make of that what you want. Yeah, other than that they did it good though.
00:08:26
Speaker
Aside from ABC, no, no, but I mean, for me, Torino is too good to be where they are. I think this is a shame. I think the fact that they haven't really recovered since Petrarchi left, they're not really, they need to find their feet. And I hope that Kairo, you know, Urbana Kairo can find
00:08:43
Speaker
a proper sporting project for this, because I think that team is, you know, I like the players they have. I like, I think this is, they're too good to be wasted like this. They're a team that should be around. I mean, for individuals, I'd snap your hand off for six of their starting 11 right now. I take Bellotti, I take Verdi, I take Baselli. Yeah, I definitely do. Lianco, Behrenger is good, Izzo. I mean, you can have these now.
00:09:07
Speaker
You can keep Itso. I don't want to see him anywhere near Inter. For me, he's a sleazier face. He's as useless as Campagnaro, but he's not as nice.
00:09:21
Speaker
Like, it's just to me, it's just... Yeah. But they have those players that you love them if they're on your side and you hate them if they're against you. It's no different than Rincon. Rincon has no ability other than getting under your skin. For me... But that makes him... Yeah. For me, it's not about getting under my skin. It's more an issue of equality. I think to have enough mediocre crappy players in their squad which will get to that we don't need anymore. That part of the...
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That part of the quota is well and full fulfilled for Inter. And I just think, you know, at Torino,
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stay at Torino, but please don't come to Inter, ever.
Juve's Scudetto and European Focus
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Yeah, again, individually, I think they have a lot of quality and it's astounding to me that they're languishing where they are on the table. It makes little to no sense. But who do we want to see there? Who do we want to see there as a coach? Do you guys have any idea who you want to see? No, no. I really, I mean, Petrakis gone at Roma, maybe bring him back and see if he can
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pull a name out of his hat? I don't know. I would like to see, to be honest with you, I mean, I would like to see what Pioli could do with that squad because he's clearly not staying in me last night. Yeah, I think that's probably about his level, to be honest. I think he could certainly achieve the sort of mid-table that is the minimum kind of place that they want to finish and maybe even sneak into the Europa League
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And, you know, for a team like Torino, I think that's I think that's pretty good. For sure. I agree. Or or I want to say if Ivan Yurich leaves Hellas Verona, I'd like to see him try there because I think his football would be.
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I think he wouldn't be too much of a stretch for that squad to play the kind of football he plays at Hellas. No, I think he would get on well there. But I mean, come on. I mean, they're by the Europa League, Verona. I think he'd be insane to leave unless somebody like, you know, Roma Mila Lazio came knocking. I just don't see him leaving. What do we think?
00:11:27
Speaker
Well, hold on, this U of A real quick. So it looks like they're going to win the Scudetto. Obviously the math is on their side. It's not official yet, but they're limping towards that. Is this like one of the most... It feels incredibly unimpressive because I saw a bunch of U of A supporters saying,
00:11:46
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It doesn't really matter this year. We want Europe and other than wanting to smack them across the face. Hard with a three-by-four. Because what we would all give for... Pick the limb off my body. It's yours. Yeah. I mean, it's so entitled, isn't it? This winging. It's like, oh, we just went to San Diego for the ninth year in a row. You just want to smack him right in the face, don't you? Well, hold on. Is this a uve that...
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was maybe just a little better than the rest and the competition wasn't all that great. Yes. Maybe it was really that the only reason we saw a quote unquote title race was because they were going through a period of transition or do you think the other teams were legitimately that good?
Juve's Strategy for Sustained Dominance
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No, I think that UVA went through a period of transition and even though it was a big, big change for them, it's not really affected them all that much when you look at the points that they've scored. I don't think anybody really is anywhere near
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um properly challenging uva yeah nowhere near and that's a lot of work to do they've built this success over such a long time there's such a lot of work to do that is it's so true and i think that's the scary part because looking at what they've done already for next season with kolusevsky with ben tankour you know with all these players that they've got going in and they're going to bring in i
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And Sarri's football being imposed on this team one more year. And the fact that Di Bala looks again like a Ballon d'Or winning player, Cristiano Ronaldo is looking good, Douglas Costa is enjoying life. I mean, all of these players are enjoying life again. And I think they just need to do a couple of tweaks.
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Again, if they bring in Orsolini and Federico Chiesa with Koulousevsky and if they even bring Pogba, which they probably can't afford, to be honest, if they're going to offload a lot of players, which I think they can this summer, then they are, again, the favorite player. Well, they keep selling these Prima Vetta players for 20 million euros who've never played. Who knows? Yeah, no, but seriously, I mean, that's the Aussilio approach, selling a container full of kids every June to balance the books.
00:13:56
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But now I think at a 500% increase. Yes, exactly. 500% markup. No, but having said that, I mean, we got to give Sarri. I mean, look at Diwala. I mean, what a joy he is to watch. That first goal is just... I mean, again, can we go back to how they were actually contemplating selling him this summer? Yeah, it's mad. Can we just revisit that? Like, what were they watching that we didn't see?
00:14:24
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Well to be fair, I mean he was pretty awful last year and I think the dour kind of last year of Allegra in the terrible football they were playing it really kind of sucked the life out of him and I saw Sarri's post-match interview after the Torino game and he said that
00:14:46
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he's only just managed to persuade Di Barla to stop dropping back into midfield and that's what he was doing all the time under Allegri. He was just wandering, he didn't hold his position at all and I think you know Sarri deserves so much credit for the way that he's brought Di Barla back because the play that he was last season I wouldn't blame Juve at all for cashing in on him because he was awful last year.
00:15:13
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No, sorry, go. With the, you know, with the signing of, I mean, I don't know a lot about him, I don't watch La Liga, but from what other people are saying about Arthur that's coming in from Barcelona, that it seems like Barry finally has his Giorgina in figure. Yeah. And then, you know, if he gets that, they'll just be away.
00:15:32
Speaker
I mean, think of it. Artur Bentankur and Kulosevsky, and then you have maybe Pogba, and then you bring in a Federico Chiesa. They've just in one, just like that, one Jiffy rejuvenated. They already started their rejuvenating their defense. Le Delich is a monster. I mean, everyone jokes about him handling the ball and whatnot. He's a monster in defense, their defense. I mean, Sarri, if anything, the offense,
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doesn't look so, maybe hasn't been as amazing as it usually is under Sarri, but the defence is unstoppable with this season. They're amazing, they barely leak everything, anything, and Delicta for a little, struggling a little bit, he's looking like a world beater, and with Bonucci,
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Now, Juve is the team to beat without a shadow of a doubt. They've just, in a jiffy like that, gotten rid of pianists, brought in Arthur, rejuvenated the squad with Kunuszewski, and then a couple of things, touches more, and then they'll be playing Saribol like a self-playing piano.
00:16:31
Speaker
So we're, we're attributing this quote-unquote title race more to Juve's slow start, their transition than to anything L'Ozio or Inter for a certain point have done. Yes.
00:16:46
Speaker
because Inter were never going to chat. This is why I told you guys in the beginning of the season that this is not going to, when you guys were tipping Inter to win the title, no, no, they are not, they're not good enough. It did look good at the beginning. Oh, come on. It's the optimality of a weathered Inter fan. Yes, I have seen this movie for the past 30 years, yes.
00:17:10
Speaker
So, yes, I am aware of this. No, no, but seriously, when I looked at that squad, it's not good enough to compete with you. It really isn't. It really, really isn't. And it never was. Just look at their bench and look at our bench. It's just, you know, it's night and day. But Inter are working on it. I mean, as I said, you can't unless you're, you know, this isn't the pre-financial fair play era where you can in one summer eradicate
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Speaker
all the advantage that another club has built up. This isn't like that. You need a couple of years to fix these things in the transfer window and inter are on their way, ish, but they are on their way, but it will take time. It will for sure take time. Well, I guess that begs the question then, how do we get legitimate title races now?
Italian Stadium Ownership Challenges
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Because the thing I hate is
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I think it's easy to hate on Juve for having significantly better revenues than everybody else, but I always go back to the thing. It's not up to Juve to slow down so everybody else can catch up. That's not their prerogative. They don't owe that to anybody. So how do we get these other teams? Milan, Roma, Napoli, Lazio, everybody else, Fiorentina, whoever it may be, how do we get them
00:18:35
Speaker
up to a point where at least we see something that resembles a title race until at least the last month. Stadiums. Yes, I was just going to say. Pure and simple. That really, really is where the other teams are behind. There is no way in the modern era that they can generate enough revenue to operate
00:18:59
Speaker
properly, without having their own stadium. I mean the model is just so outdated and we've found uh, Pollotto has come up against problems, Comiso, the same Fiorentina, that you know, the bureaucracy and the red tape, the way that Italy is
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is somehow blocking these people who want to invest, they want to progress their teams and all the time the stadiums are crumbling as much as they are on the pitch because that underpins everything and any business person would understand that. It's crazy, it really is.
00:19:41
Speaker
Yeah, again, Chloe, you did a great interview with Comizo about this. He referenced Roma President James Palota trying to get a stadium done. It feels like you could have had a child in the time who is now driving in the time that Roma have not even put a single shovel in the ground for this stadium thing. It's been going on. We're approaching a decade. It's been close to insane.
00:20:07
Speaker
But that's because Raji, Raji, Raji, Raji, Raji, Raji said no, right? Well, hold on. Camillo's having his own problems, though, too. This is all over. This is all over Italy. I mean, this is this is look at Milan and Inter having to.
00:20:20
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argue with Bepisala, the mayor of Milan, on Twitter about stuff. I mean, they have meetings and meetings and Inter and Milan present solutions and then they go back and it's... It's so frustrating. And I mean, I was looking at this yesterday, I couldn't sleep and I was looking at transfer market and I was looking at how
00:20:41
Speaker
how Liverpool have been able to invest in the players they've been invested in. They have a stadium that is old, but they own it. They own it. They've refurbished it and it takes half of San Siro does. But I mean, how much more money don't they take in? And it's just, and that gives them the platform to build.
00:20:57
Speaker
uh to this super team that has won everything in the last 13 months so you know you know you have it's exactly like chloe says stadium stadium stadiums the italian teams have to own them they have to own them they have to operate them and in this climate i don't understand
00:21:13
Speaker
this notion that when people want to invest, foreign investors want to build on your country, put their money into your country, why are you tripping them? Let them work. I'm not saying give them the keys to whatever they want in tax breaks. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying let them invest. Stop trying to prevent them investing. This makes no sense to me.
00:21:40
Speaker
And Chloe, maybe you can shed some light on because I think Roma's stadium problems have probably been highlighted more than everybody else just because it's been going on for so damn long. But what are some of the problems Fyodor and Tina have been running into?
00:21:54
Speaker
Well, the option A that they wanted was to redevelop the Frankie, which makes sense. I don't know if some of the locals say there's not enough parking and blah, blah, blah, but you can work with that. You can build and create.
00:22:13
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more space for access and things like that. It's on a bus route. It's right next to the Campo di Marti train station. It's not like study olympico where it's really hard to get to and back from. Yeah, good luck getting to that in a taxi. Bring your walking shoes everybody. Jesus.
00:22:32
Speaker
I've experienced that myself. But yeah, so they want they want to redevelop with Frankie, but it's a very specific example of art deco architecture. The architect Nervi is an expert in concrete. They've got these
00:22:55
Speaker
special staircases that go up to the top of the cover that are really a unique feature so they're blocking any kind of redevelopment of the stadium which okay I get it but it's crumbling and falling down like it's just in such a state and
00:23:17
Speaker
What would you rather have? Would you rather have, it's the same with the Stadio Flaminio in Rome, what would you rather have something that's crumbling and falling down but oh it's an example of architecture, it's an abandoned stadium with weeds growing all around it? Or would you prefer to
00:23:35
Speaker
keep, say in Florence, the Maratona Tower and build around it with the, bring the curvers nearer to the pitch, you know, modern facilities, a brand new stadium with some original features and still keep the hub of the community where it is, the local businesses, the, you know, everything that everybody's been used to, you're still preserving that history
00:24:00
Speaker
But, you know, you've got to you've got to move forward. What's the point of having a so-called listed building if it's going falling down and, you know, once it's been abandoned, the council are not going to pay to renovate it because they're not generating any income from it. And, you know, they're not they're not they're also not allowing Fiorentina to build in in in another area of the city either. So it's like, well,
00:24:27
Speaker
What do you want? I mean, it's like it reminds me of that film when I can't remember which film was when he's screaming at his girlfriend. What do you want? Tell me what you want.
00:24:39
Speaker
And it's like, no, just be concrete. No, no, it's ridiculous. And it's holding Italian football back. And it's like I said, like exactly like you said, no one's saying that we should that they should give them, you know, give them a carte blanche to do what they want and tear down historical landmarks. That's not what we're saying. What we're saying is, let them work with them and not against them.
00:24:59
Speaker
Modern architects can incorporate history very, very well into the buildings. I mean the study of Philadelphia in Torino, which is where the Grandi Torino team used to play and they've now made it into a kind of training ground in a facility for the youth team.
00:25:19
Speaker
They've kept some of the original features, the original steps in the corner of the building, but still rebuilt a modern, it's like 4,000 seater. And it's a great, great facility. They've got tributes all to the players of the Grand Itorino team, there's a museum inside. It's fantastic. So, you know, that's what needs to happen with Fiorentina.
00:25:45
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and Inter and Roma and everyone else.
Inter's Ongoing Struggles
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Speaker
Yes, every single one. I mean, how crazy is it? Napoli too. I mean, Atalanta own their own stadium and they're miles ahead in terms of their business model than their giant rivals Milan and Inter. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
00:26:11
Speaker
Okay, um, what else? Atalata good, Roma bad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't get away because I don't get away. Uh, we need to talk about, I mean, as much as Roma sucked yesterday and they sucked, they were only beaten in suckiness by, by Inter who decided to commit
00:26:33
Speaker
footballing suicide, as Inter always do every now and again, which Antonio Conte was brought in to cure. But it turns out, as the old English adage goes, you can't make chicken soup with chicken shit. Ten years, ten years later on, we're still playing with Ranocchia, Candrea, Bagaliardini, you know, and D'Ambrosio, and we wonder why nothing good comes of it. It's like, it's like it turns out that the chef
00:27:01
Speaker
No matter who you have as a chef, you have to also have good produce for him to cook something. It doesn't matter who the coach is. If it's the reincarnation of Helenio Herrera or the love child of Helenio Herrera, Klopp, Ancelotti, Capello, Saki, that turns up at Appiano Gentile, Roberto Galeardini is never going to be Daniela de Rossi.
00:27:21
Speaker
Andrea Ranocca is never going to be Alessandro Nesta. Danilo D'Ambrosia is never going to be whatever it is he's trying to be now, or the good version of that. It's never going to be good. It's never going to sort itself out. And this is incredibly frustrating to watch because everyone who, every Interfan in the world who was watching that game yesterday was fuming. And we saw this coming before it happened.
00:27:46
Speaker
and the guy who's paid 11 million euros a year net didn't Antonio Conte and that's what pisses me off to no end with Conte is that he seems to be in this situation that a lot of intercoaches when they're in this situation end up in this kind of shell shop
00:28:03
Speaker
They don't get it, so they don't do anything, and they end up losing not only points, but also their jobs. And this is where we are now. Content needs to sort himself out. This is, we're entering into a very dangerous moment now. I've seen this movie so many times before. If he doesn't get a grip on this, Inter is unstable. It can escalate quickly and fastly and turn into a living nightmare, unless he's on top of it. And I hope he is.
00:28:31
Speaker
it seems Marotta is, but I mean, what do you guys make of it? To me, that was football suicide, complete football suicide. I think Conte is great when things are going his way, but when they're not, he is like a big child. You know, I just, I think that he gets
00:28:55
Speaker
He likes to blame others as well for his own mistakes a lot. He doesn't really take ownership and yeah, it's difficult. I guess we all knew that there could be, because Conte is volatile because into a volatile, there could be a moment where it blows up and it's getting there, isn't it?
00:29:19
Speaker
I mean, when he said yesterday, what he said yesterday is really important. He said, everyone is under question. Everyone has to prove that they are worthy of being myself included. That to me, because he is that kind of a child, like you say, he could he could resign if it doesn't go his way. Oh, absolutely. Like that is dies. Let's not you know, that's not him getting sacked. It wouldn't surprise me one second if he just went, you know what, I'm done. I'm out.
00:29:46
Speaker
Well, he didn't exactly walk out of Juve on good terms, did he? Yeah, he didn't get one. He tore it away, so he threw a hissy fit. Jesus Christ. Well, remember? Remember, he thought they weren't investing for the Champions League. So what does he do? He hands in his resignation and he goes on Juve TV and says, oh, by the way, I quit.
00:30:08
Speaker
I mean, this guy is crazy. He's a man child. He's a man child. Well, whatever. I mean, from selfishly, I'd rather be in the position inked out or in than Roma. Yeah, and I completely understand that. We don't have another hour and a half for me to discuss that because I'll cry, I'll weep a little bit, and I'll end up in the fetal position. No, I understand that.
00:30:28
Speaker
I just want to, I just want to, you know, having said that, I want to pay tribute to Napoli's first goal.
Napoli's Improvement under Gattuso
00:30:34
Speaker
How many passes was that in the team before that before that was coming? I mean, that was beautiful football. What is what is Gattuso? What is Gattuso building here? I mean, seriously?
00:30:45
Speaker
This is damn good. Yeah. Which is really weird because if you would have posed the question, would you swap Agilati for, for Gatuzo before the season, you'd be like, no, whatever you're smoking, cut it this way.
00:31:00
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Well, this season is surprised us in so many ways. Yeah, 2020 is a different one. 2020 is different in every single way. Nothing is normal in 2020, to put it that way. Yes. Well, the bubonic plague is back, so hopefully that gets me before Roma have to play again.
00:31:18
Speaker
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