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Job Hunting Jokes with Chrissy
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Have you ever been dumped by a guy only for him to offer up a date with his cousin who has a floor bed? What does this have to do with job searching? Listen to today's episode and you'll understand the connection.
If you want to see Chrissy live or reach out to her, you can find her at funnymeansbusiness.com and on TikTok and Instagram @chrissyteehees
If you have a layoff or job search story you want to share with us, you can email us at lostmyjobpodcast@gmail.com
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Transcript
Introduction and Meet Chrissy
00:00:11
Speaker
Hello and welcome everybody. My name is Jackie and I lost my job.
00:00:23
Speaker
Hello, welcome back everybody. It's a great Wednesday. I've got a really fun episode for you today. I chat with k Chrissy, who was in marketing and is currently doing a career pivot into comedy, which is really fun.
00:00:40
Speaker
We will get all into that in just a few minutes.
Karen Reed's Trial Verdict
00:00:44
Speaker
But before we do, the first thing I need to start with today is that Karen Reed is free.
00:00:52
Speaker
I don't know if you heard last week's episode, but at the beginning of last week's episode, I was anxiously awaiting a jury verdict on Karen Reed's trial, and my goodness, did they get it right.
00:01:05
Speaker
They got it right. So congratulations to Karen Reed on her freedom. Very well deserved.
Job Search Ghosting and Rejections
00:01:15
Speaker
Now, that said, I did want to share a quick story from a friend of mine that um I felt was important and relevant to everybody who's job searching lately.
00:01:26
Speaker
Now, if you've been job searching, you've probably gotten a few interviews or um even had people reach out to schedule something with you.
00:01:37
Speaker
and perhaps have been ghosted mid-process. And this is kind of what happened to my friend. They were in the middle of an interview process. In fact, I think they were three or four interviews deep.
00:01:51
Speaker
And they were told that they were gonna get feedback by Monday. So Monday comes and goes, they hear nothing.
00:02:02
Speaker
Tuesday comes and goes, they hear nothing. Wednesday comes and goes, still nothing. And now by this point, in my opinion, if you've been told you're gonna get feedback by a certain day, especially when you're in late stage interviews and that feedback does not come, it's not a positive sign.
00:02:23
Speaker
Usually that's a sign that things are not going well. Because if a company wants to make you an offer, they will generally move pretty quickly.
00:02:34
Speaker
Now there's variables that play into this, right? Every situation is unique. But in general, if you're promised feedback on one day and it's two, three days later and you haven't heard anything, it's dicey.
00:02:46
Speaker
So anyway, you know, I tell my friend, hang in there, hold on, you know, wait until Friday to check in. so They don't hear anything. By Friday morning, they send their, hey, any feedback email.
00:03:01
Speaker
And at this point, I kind of figure that they're going to end up getting that midday Friday rejection email. Sure enough, they get, you know, right around like 1230 or one o'clock, they get the, hey, thanks, but no thanks email.
00:03:17
Speaker
And I have to say, i myself have done this before in my career, and looking back, I do not understand why.
00:03:29
Speaker
I do not understand why Midday Friday is like the universal rejection time. It just sends people into the weekend on such a sour note And nobody deserves to go into a weekend that way. Honestly, maybe this is just personal preference, but I feel like I would rather have that rejection midweek so I can kind of finish out the week and...
00:03:57
Speaker
go into the weekend fresh, but no, Fridays seem to be that kind of universal rejection day. So unfortunately for my poor friend, they got hit with that email and um had to had to kind of sort that out through the weekend.
Negative Calls and Company Criticisms
00:04:15
Speaker
And on top of that, um they they were telling me that they actually ended up getting a call from a separate company that they had applied to who called to ask them to chat through compensation requirements.
00:04:30
Speaker
Now, this is a company that they had just submitted an application to, so no interview process yet, just very first stages. So they give the company a call back, you know, hey, heard you wanted to talk about compensation.
00:04:44
Speaker
and the company tells them, yeah, we just wanted to call to let you know that your compensation is far outside the range that we have for this role. And we have many more qualified candidates who meet the compensation range we need. So we're not going to move forward with your application.
00:05:04
Speaker
I could not believe that any company would do this to a person. First of all, why spend your time calling an applicant just to tell them that their compensation is far too outside the range?
00:05:18
Speaker
And then on top of that, to add salt into the wound, you're going to tell them that there's many more qualified people who fit the compensation range that you're moving forward with.
00:05:30
Speaker
I am absolutely filing this in the um in the folder of this could have been an email. A great example of this could have been an email and honestly should have been an email.
00:05:45
Speaker
Everybody's time would have been better spent if that had been an email. So anyway, things are clearly still weird and funky out there in the job market right now.
Chrissy's Career Journey
00:05:56
Speaker
But, like I mentioned earlier, here got a really fun episode for you all today.
00:06:00
Speaker
i got to chat with k Chrissy, who was living in Tennessee and found herself with a job offer that had her relocating out to San Diego. Of course, not too long after that relocation, she found herself being laid off and now taking a chance to get into stand-up comedy and potentially shift her career into corporate comedy.
00:06:25
Speaker
I really appreciated her perspective on things and truly, i think she has ah very fun, very interesting career in comedy ahead of her. So without further delay, let's get into my conversation with k Chrissy.
00:06:45
Speaker
Chrissy, it is so good to have you here. Thank you so much for joining me today. I always appreciate it. and know it's bright and early where you are, so thank you. of course. Thanks for having me. I'm i'm stoked to be here.
00:06:57
Speaker
Yes, I can't wait, especially because you're the first person I've talked to who is making a career out of comedy or working towards that. So i cannot wait to dig into that.
00:07:10
Speaker
But before we get into all things comedy, I would love to hear a little bit about the kind of work you've done, your professional background.
00:07:21
Speaker
So can you talk us through your professional history and what that's looked like? Yeah, I have what um in grad school they they called an atypical background, which I guess just means weird.
00:07:36
Speaker
I started in college. I went to Belmont in Nashville for music business, and I was just kind of in some fun, not great bands that no one should Google. And realized that maybe music wasn't for me, but I still liked the lifestyle. So after I graduated, I was touring as crew for friends bands. And then eventually i got jobs from not friends just by interviewing.
00:08:02
Speaker
And the thing about touring is if you aren't on the road, you don't make money usually. So I started kind of making t-shirts on the side just as a side hustle. And then it kind of grew into a whole business with At one point, I think I had nine employees and a 5,000 square foot warehouse.
00:08:19
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And it was full service from ah design, concepting, fulfillment, production, online fulfillment, live show. but Like we did it all. And then COVID hit.
00:08:30
Speaker
I don't know if you remember that part. But yeah, live entertainment was not happening. And the good thing about that was it it really gave me the space to realize what I wanted to do.
00:08:41
Speaker
Like it grew so quickly and it was, it just took so much energy and so much of my time that I didn't really realize how kind of miserable I was. At some point I had to ask myself, like, do I want to make t-shirts until I died?
00:08:54
Speaker
And answer is no, ah don't. So I, uh, I opened up an online fulfillment wing just to kind of, you know, make the business more attractive and to continue making money while we couldn't do live shows.
00:09:09
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ah sold it and went back to school. So I got my MBA at Vanderbilt, um graduated in 2023. And when I was there, in between my first and second year, I started interning at a company ah in Southern California.
00:09:24
Speaker
And they ended up hiring me full time before I even graduated. So by the time I did graduate, they moved me out here. And so that's kind of my my professional background. Oh, I guess, well, you'd probably want to know what I did there.
00:09:36
Speaker
I was in Marketing, I started in commercial marketing, in sustainability, and then the last year and a half that was with them, I did content strategy and content creation ah for sustainable and social impact, which was really cool and super rewarding.
00:09:54
Speaker
Yeah, it sounds like.
Coping with Layoffs
00:09:56
Speaker
And I want to back up to something you mentioned because, you know, you were at Vanderbilt and then this company you were working for was SoCal located. So you had to relocate pretty much all the way across the country for this job. Is that right?
00:10:10
Speaker
i sure did. I sold my house. I moved everything. um moved my whole life and I would do it again. But yeah, it would have been cool if I had known that less than a year later, things would be different.
00:10:23
Speaker
Yeah. And well, had you done a big cross-country move like this before, or was this the first one? No. Never. At least not that I could remember. i mean, we moved a little bit as a kid. i grew up on a farm in Florida.
00:10:37
Speaker
And when I graduated high school, I moved to Nashville. I stayed there for 15 years. And then and now i now I live in San Diego. Oh, gosh. OK. So then you're still there. You're still SoCal-based.
00:10:51
Speaker
Oh yeah, it's ruined me. i where Where can I go? I surf several times a week. I look at dolphins a couple times a week. Like where am I supposed to go to, i not going name ah city because I don't want to.
00:11:03
Speaker
make anyone in that city feel bad that they don't get to look at dolphins as much as I do. But like, where could I go? That's, you know, this is, it's a magical place. Yeah. San Diego is great. I obviously don't live there, but I've had the fortune to go out there a couple of times and it really is so beautiful.
00:11:20
Speaker
Every time I'm out there, it's so hard to leave and come back home. Yeah. Yeah. And it did get to the point where You know, if i if I had a job offer somewhere else in California, i I'd probably take it, but I don't see myself leaving the state anytime soon.
00:11:36
Speaker
I don't blame you. I don't blame you. So you relocate all the way across the country. You get into this job. You mentioned that you worked there for how long was it that you were there before they let you go?
00:11:50
Speaker
I technically started my full time in San Diego label I think it was July 1st. So I guess 13, 14 months.
00:12:02
Speaker
Wow. Okay, so you uproot your whole life. Biggest move you've had to date, hop all the way over to San Diego from Nashville to start this job, and 13, 14 months later, job's gone.
00:12:15
Speaker
Yep. Yeah, that's pretty much how it happened. Wow. So were you expecting this layoff? Was that something that you felt like was coming? Yeah, for sure.
00:12:26
Speaker
So that May, they announced that the site was closing. And so that pretty much tipped off everybody of like, some things are going to happen. Everyone needs to start looking around.
00:12:41
Speaker
Even though they gave they gave us an 18-month lead time, which I felt like was gratuitous. Like 18 months is a long time to be anxious about your job. Then I think that kind of culturally, a lot of things started shifting in America with like the, with the election coming in things were changing. i worked in social and sustainable impact.
00:13:03
Speaker
There was a lot of writing on the walls in a lot of different directions. I just didn't think that it would happen so soon because I was being comforted by the people above me, like my manager and my director.
00:13:14
Speaker
i was being reassured pretty regularly that even if they close the site or when they close the site, I'll be able to stay remote. It'll be fine. Um, And yeah, so that was a fun lesson to learn that people lie.
00:13:30
Speaker
Yes, this is something that I keep hearing is the reassurances that come up when something starts rattling people or, you know, a big shift happens. There's this period of reassurance of, yes, something not great is happening, but it's OK.
00:13:47
Speaker
Everything will be fine or, you know, there will be adjustments made. And in your case, It's OK that the site's closing. You can work fully remote. And then all of a sudden, it seems there's this turning point that goes, bam, hey, remember how we said everything was OK?
00:14:06
Speaker
Today is your last day. what we meant was, it's OK for us. We can be remote. All of y'all have to get out. Oh my gosh, it is. It's hard to describe how when you're given reassurances and then not so long after that, all of a sudden things pivot and it's like, just kidding, you know your job's not here anymore. Yeah.
00:14:29
Speaker
i I realized probably about a month before it happened, which was, I think like sometime in August of last year, the verbiage from my direct manager started getting a little different and it started to feel very personal.
00:14:43
Speaker
And that's kind of when it felt like that seed in Star Wars when you're like, they're in the trash can and like the walls are starting to close in. yeah Like the trash is built and I'm just surrounded by trash and I know I'm about to get squished, but like, what can I do about it? And once it started to get personal, I realized that I had, this was beginning to be a targeted effort and it was happening faster than I thought that it would.
00:15:06
Speaker
So I started applying pretty regularly to other jobs inside and outside of the company, probably about a month before it happened and it just wasn't, it wasn't soon enough.
00:15:18
Speaker
Yes. Especially the way the job market is right now, a month is like nothing in terms of the time it takes to find another job. Oh yeah. It's, it's wild out there. And I've, this is my first time ever not having regular employment for an extended period of time.
00:15:36
Speaker
And, uh, I don't care for it, but In all fairness, you know, the two things can be true at once. It was terrible and it's been hard and it's been weird, but it's also been one of the best things that's ever happened to me.
00:15:50
Speaker
um And it's been fun. And I don't know what's the word for like, I can do anything. Like i i have an MBA, I have all this life experience. i have ADHD. So I'm like super into a lot of different crafts and hobbies and interests and things. And I can do anything, which is ah terrifying and really cool at the same time.
00:16:14
Speaker
So ah you're catching me on a good day. There are some days where I'm like, this is never going to end. Yes. Oh, yes. I don't want to wake up. um But...
00:16:25
Speaker
But sometimes it's it's really nice to have all that opportunity in front of you. I hear that so much. That roller coaster, like you mentioned, the dichotomy of this is awful, being laid off is terrible, it's terrifying.
00:16:40
Speaker
There's so many negative, difficult emotions that come with it. And then there are the freedoms of I can explore anything. I have time to sink in other hobbies and activities.
00:16:51
Speaker
And I'm not expected to be at a 9 a.m. meeting today. There is such a trade-off and it feels hard because trying to balance those two emotions or even just reconcile the fact that you can feel both of those things kind of simultaneously, it's very difficult.
00:17:09
Speaker
It's difficult to sort through the, I'm kind of happy about this, but I'm also not very happy about this. Where do I land? And it changes day to day and sometimes even hour to hour. Really, it is truly wild.
00:17:24
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's the thing that I didn't anticipate the most was how differently it would feel kind of like a week at a time or a day at time or half a day at a time. Like, you know, just when you think that you're starting to get into a rhythm, which is the most important thing is like getting into the rhythm of life when you have technically nothing to do and no one to report to.
00:17:47
Speaker
course, you have to be held accountable to yourself. And, you know, that's That takes some time to develop that process. At least it it did for me of kind of the initial bummer depression.
00:18:01
Speaker
And then, okay, we got to be productive. How do we be productive when there's no end in sight? Yeah. Let's dive into that a little bit. So you get the news that you're being laid off.
00:18:14
Speaker
Talk me through your initial reaction to that. What was going through your mind and what were those first couple of days like for you after you got the news? I had a really weird good situation of as soon as I got the news, I think five days later i had a vacation planned and went on vacation.
00:18:34
Speaker
So it was, it was good and bad. So it was my, my partner, ah it was his, like every other year they do a big family reunion somewhere at like an all inclusive resort. So there's like 35 people in his family here and I love them.
00:18:47
Speaker
It's the second time I've done one and it's great because like you're going on vacation, you have all this positive and then you get there And kind of like this, you know, talking about your job is in is in the quiver of small talk.
00:19:00
Speaker
And so, you know, how's work doing? It's not. It was like having to talk about that so much and that it felt, my departure felt so personal that that was a really complicated set of feelings to sift through, but it was an all-inclusive resort. So there was unlimited alcohol.
00:19:19
Speaker
And I... dealt with it accordingly. I think I was drunk for five days straight, which no regrets.
Job Applications and Resume Challenges
00:19:28
Speaker
Even without the unemployment cloud hanging over me, I was like, look, I can't watch your kids. I'm drunk. It's irresponsible. You can't leave them with me.
00:19:35
Speaker
Yes. It's a great excuse to say, please don't expect anything out of me right now. I can't. I cannot. I learned from the first family reunion. that if I don't want to watch kids, I have to be drunk.
00:19:48
Speaker
I'm willing to do it. That is the secret, the secret to a good family reunion. If you don't want to have to take on any responsibility or do anything for anyone, just make sure you have enough drinks to be like, nope, can't, had too many drinks.
00:20:03
Speaker
I can't be the driver. I can't be the responsible adult for kids. like Don't expect anything out of me. I'm just here. I'm just here. Yeah, I can't watch your kids swim in the pool.
00:20:14
Speaker
I can't even swim right now. Oh, gosh. So you get the news, you go on vacation. What was it like coming back? Because vacation can kind of be that escape that, you know, you get out of the physical environment, you get some separation between yourself and what happened.
00:20:33
Speaker
Coming back, how did that feel? i man, i I think it felt very... empty. Like I didn't really know how to move forward. I didn't like it because prior to grad school, which I mean, the big reason why i even went to grad school is I needed those soft skills to be in business. I mean, my entire resume looked made up. I had only ever worked for myself on contract gigs.
00:21:01
Speaker
I needed a piece of paper that got me a foot in the door somewhere and could confidently tell an employer that like I have skills and They can benefit you.
00:21:13
Speaker
So give me a chance. And having worked at this company after the internship, I feel like even that was kind of like, you know, i the the grad school internship process.
00:21:24
Speaker
and So I had just never, what i'm trying to say, I guess, is that I had never done the spray and pray application process before, which was very overwhelming. And I didn't anticipate that.
00:21:35
Speaker
So that it was just like mass applying, which I got to say is not the right thing. to but i was, wouldn't say panicking, but we were definitely in the direction of panicking.
00:21:48
Speaker
Yep. Yep. Do you have an idea or a rough estimate of either how long each day you would spend applying or about how many applications you were submitting in a day?
00:22:01
Speaker
It was at least four hours a day, sometimes more. i to date, I've been tracking it two different ways. So I started on Excel because I, Big data nerd. I love visualized data. i which I feel like I thrive in a position where I can be right in between the right and left brain.
00:22:22
Speaker
Like I want to marry art and science all day long. I want to be able to talk to both parties. I want to be the middleman. And so for me, I was like, I can't wait to make a good little chart out of this. Like how many jobs I applied to, how many interviews I've got.
00:22:35
Speaker
And then the offer accepted, like I could wait to do that. So I have it. And my first half, first couple months in an Excel spreadsheet. And then I ended up getting one of those like online track your application, autofill.
00:22:50
Speaker
they know not They don't autofill anything. So I have in two different places, probably just short of 300 jobs I have applied for eight-ish months, I would say.
00:23:01
Speaker
And most of those get custom customer resumes. I do have like standard blanket, You know, this is for creative strategy. This is for brand management.
00:23:12
Speaker
This is for video. But for the most part, every single job I have applied to has gotten a fairly customized resume. And as it turns out, that's what everyone does. So it's not helpful. It's so interesting because years ago, that is exactly the advice that I would recommend to people when applying for jobs is tailor your resume each application, adjust it, look at the job description that they have, marry in the keywords to your resume and change it.
00:23:40
Speaker
And it's still advice that I would stand behind to a degree. I think where we're at now in the job market, it's impractical for job seekers to be changing their resume every single time.
00:23:55
Speaker
And I think there's also a lot of bad advice out there on how to do it and what you need to be doing. And for anybody who is in the midst of that bad advice, just listen to episode two of this podcast where I talk about this and the applicant tracking system.
00:24:10
Speaker
I did. Can I tell you, i went to my partner immediately and was like, everything we've ever been told about the application process is a lie. Yes. And it's because it's being told by people who are either trying to make money off of offering you these services, or it's told by people who are making assumptions or judgments that, I mean, they haven't been on the back end, right?
00:24:32
Speaker
There's truth to everything, but the problem is that the truth gets blown up and exaggerated to the point where, you know, No, robots are not throwing out every one of your applications.
00:24:45
Speaker
It's not that, it's that, it's sheer numbers. Numbers are the reason that you're not getting responses, not robots, but I digress. It's really, it's a ridiculous job market out there.
00:25:00
Speaker
And frankly, it's just impractical when, you know, you mentioned you've put in 300 applications. That's basically tweaking 300 different versions of your resume.
00:25:12
Speaker
not practical. I mean, I know we've, you know, once you've been laid off, we have all the time in the world, right? But who wants to spend their time doing that for every single application when nine times out of 10, you're not even going to get eyes on it You're just not going to get eyes on all of your resumes.
00:25:31
Speaker
It's wild. Yeah. and What drives me really nuts about that is like, of course, like I use AI to help me, but I'm never, you know, you have to rewrite it You to reread it. have to make sure, cause it just makes stuff up like ah every single time.
00:25:46
Speaker
And I'll just, you know, put in the prompt, customize it to this. And it'll say, like, I sometimes will, if it's an entertainment job, I'll mention that I've worked with Megan Thee Stallion, Casey Musgrave, like whatever. And it'll just make up celebrities that I haven't worked with and put it in.
00:26:01
Speaker
um There's no reason for you to say that I've worked with Lani. I've never met them. Right. And this is the trick with ai is that you know it'll put stuff into your resume. You'll give it a prompt. It'll take care of the prompt. But there's no guarantee it's going to do it without error.
00:26:21
Speaker
What I tell people all the time, one of my biggest pieces of advice to people is don't put anything in your resume that you're not prepared to speak to if you're asked about it.
00:26:32
Speaker
Because I know on my end, when you know I'm in talent acquisition, when I'm looking through a resume, I specifically look at bullet points and I'll ask people about them. You know oh, you said you led this project. That's really interesting.
00:26:45
Speaker
We might need you to lead a project like that over here. Tell me about how you did that. And you can tell very quickly when somebody is enhancing their resume a little bit too much, right?
00:26:59
Speaker
It's one thing if maybe you co-led a project and you're saying you led it. That's one thing. If you contributed SOP to a project and you're claiming you led it and I start asking you about how you made the decisions you made, it's going to become a apparent very quickly.
00:27:18
Speaker
That's the trick with AI, is you need to be careful about what it's putting into your resume. Because if you just take it as is, copy paste what it gives you, and then you do get that interview, somebody asks you about it, how are you going to explain that?
00:27:33
Speaker
And you could be caught off guard by it, and then you really stumble. Yeah, you may have gotten your resume in front of somebody, you may have gotten to the first stage in the interview, but you know, blowing it there is almost worse.
00:27:47
Speaker
Yeah, and then it that sinking feeling. I mean, I haven't done that so far, but I did for the first time. I had an interview last week, and the guy asked me a question, and it was something that I have done before. It just was like so long. and It was like in my internship two and a half years ago, and it just didn't come to me immediately, and that dead air that happens that like, and it was probably two seconds, but it felt like a year, and I was like, oh, he thinks I'm a fraud. I just can't access that memory.
00:28:14
Speaker
right now. Oh God, I hate this. Yeah. And it can be tough too, because on one hand, if you have every answer super prepared, then you're worried that they think you're overprepared or making things up.
00:28:28
Speaker
And on the other hand, if you don't have an answer ready to go, you're worried that, you know, they're thinking, oh she doesn't know what she's doing or she has no idea what she's talking about. So it is hard because there's really no way to guarantee a win either way.
00:28:46
Speaker
Let's go back a little bit because you mentioned that this is the first time that you're really going through the quote unquote typical application process.
Job Market Expectations and Offers
00:28:54
Speaker
I'm curious to hear what are your thoughts on job searching as a whole?
00:29:00
Speaker
The last few months I've been focusing on the San Diego market specifically just because I felt like there's too much competition in the remote market. And now understanding that recruiters, ah internal or external, correct me if i'm wrong,
00:29:15
Speaker
will get the applicants in the order that they applied. And the depressing thing about LinkedIn premium is that you know that if you're two hours in, you're already above a hundred.
00:29:25
Speaker
So like there's no chance. yeah So i what is it like the San Diego market? It feels like there's a lot of people who are hiring and they understand that the market is bad and they're taking advantage of it.
00:29:40
Speaker
I am seeing some crazy jobs. that are need an MBA need 15 years of corporate management experience. Your pay is $110,000 a year, which I recognize might sound like a lot of money outside of California, but that would maybe be somebody who's like, what about 40. So they might have a family, they might have kids.
00:30:03
Speaker
The average home price in San Diego is just over a million dollars. Like that's not you, you want someone with almost 20 years of experience and an ah advanced degree. and you don't want to pay them a living wage. Like the average one bedroom apartment in this city is like $3,500 a month, $110,000 won't even cover that.
00:30:24
Speaker
So it's, it's a lot of, which I feel like there's a degree of that probably everywhere, but it just feels particularly bad here right now with other people that I've spoken to about the market.
00:30:36
Speaker
So it's been, it's been difficult to find and to balance like, This happened to me a few weeks ago. I went in for an interview for a job and it went really well. I got to the third round interview. It was in person. I'd met everyone all the way up to the president.
00:30:54
Speaker
And it had all been phone communication with the CMO. It was like a smaller company. So it, it felt like a really good fit for me at the time. and And the pay was like a little bit lower than average. And it was definitely lower than what I had been paid previously, but I had been unemployed for six months.
00:31:12
Speaker
It, felt like, listen, I'll take this if it, if it comes to me and we'll figure it out later. Right after the third interview, the CMO calls me and they say, listen, we, I have good news and bad news.
00:31:25
Speaker
The bad news is we're going to go with somebody else. The good news is we liked you so much. We created a job for you. I'm going to send you the information now. So I opened up my email.
00:31:36
Speaker
We're not on the phone anymore. At this point, I opened up my email. And it is essentially like office bitch. That's the role of the job is just kind of like being the catchall for everybody.
00:31:47
Speaker
And it's even less money than the original job, which is, can so it was probably 30, 40% less than what I had been making at my previous job. You know, okay.
00:31:58
Speaker
I responded eventually and with an email that was like, I'm very grateful. Thank you so much. It's such an honor. Like I love, like you made a job for me. How cool, like, you know, more professionally and gently, you know, as anyone would, can we talk about the money?
00:32:17
Speaker
Because, you know, I looked at salary.com. I looked at Glassdoor. It seems to be like literally $50,000 less than the median average for San Diego for that job title.
00:32:28
Speaker
And I cited it, you know, and I was like, Hey, if the money can't move, I get it. Let's find other ways to make this a nice situation. ah Can we inflate my title? Can we let me work from home two days a week?
00:32:40
Speaker
ah Equity? Is that a thing? I don't know. Can we build in a, you know, a six month review plan? You know, they responded back three days later with an email, which was interesting because all communication had previously been over the phone.
00:32:55
Speaker
And the email was very AI written. Upon further consideration, we no longer have the budget for this role. Thank you so much." And it was just like, man, like it felt like you go on a date, you go on like a third date with a guy and it's going really well. And you like have a little kiss the end of the night.
00:33:13
Speaker
And you're like, yeah, this is great. We're gonna totally date. And then he calls you the next day and he's like, look, I got good news. I got bad news. Bad news is I have been dating somebody else and I like her better.
00:33:25
Speaker
The good news is i have this cousin He's not as cute as me. He does save all of his empty liquor bottles as decoration in his kitchen. oh no, that's so fratty. And he doesn't have a bed frame.
00:33:39
Speaker
No! And I think you guys would be together. No, he's got a floor bed. Oh my god, not the floor bed. And it's like, whoa, no, no, wait, what? Really? That's nothing like you.
00:33:51
Speaker
And then he's like, oh, really? You're going to look a gift horse in the mouth? Get out of here. You can't have my cousin. Oh my god. It's the perfect analogy, number one. So a hats off to you. That is the most perfect, hilarious analogy. And it is so true. You really hit the nail on the head there.
00:34:10
Speaker
you that That whole idea of looking a gift horse in the mouth, I'm taking it back. This is exactly what companies, some companies, are doing to candidates right now.
00:34:21
Speaker
And it's awful because as a candidate, unless you have a job, you really are in a difficult position in negotiations because any company has thousands of people applying to every single job at a moment's notice.
00:34:37
Speaker
And they could just say, hey, you know what? Nope, we're taking back that offer. It's scary enough to think of if you get an offer, thinking about trying to negotiate it, not even starting the negotiations, but just asking if you can negotiate.
00:34:52
Speaker
It's already terrifying to ask if there's wiggle room because that could piss them off enough to say, well, we have somebody else who doesn't even want to ask that question. And it's awful because there are some companies that will do it.
00:35:05
Speaker
I mean, here you are, you're proof, just asking, hey, is there anything we could do to kind of sweeten the deal a bit? They could have easily said, no, unfortunately not. This is what it is, take it or leave it.
00:35:18
Speaker
And at the same time, it is almost like there's this expectation to be grateful, you know, the positioning of it as bad news, but good news. I feel like this does happen to folks who've been laid off a lot, is that expectation that you should be grateful for anything and everything that comes your way.
00:35:39
Speaker
And it can really create this sense of guilt as a job seeker that, oh my God, maybe I should be grateful for this. Maybe I am being the jerk for not being more thankful. um And it really puts you through these mental games that have you kind of questioning those emotions and, you know, trying to assign right and wrong to emotions, which just shouldn't be the case.
00:36:05
Speaker
Yeah. Either way, I can't cover my expenses right now. So, why Why would I date your weird cousin who's probably on the sex defender registry? I'll just be alone. don't need this.
00:36:17
Speaker
Right? I don't want your strange cousin with the floor bed. I wanted Yeah. ah and now I don't. Now you told me who you are and I'm listening. I'm out. Right.
00:36:28
Speaker
And it's frustrating. It's so frustrating because then you have to start all over from scratch with interviews at a different company. And it's just exhausting.
00:36:39
Speaker
it is. It is. And it's, it, that situation led me to, for the most part, kind of focus more on my contract work, which I have had. Thank God, um, that I have people in my life who,
00:36:54
Speaker
believe in me and have money in businesses and are hiring me to do work for them. But that, that week I was like, you know what? I think I need to start betting on myself a little bit more and, and developing the kind of things that I can kind of offer ad hoc in this space.
00:37:12
Speaker
But I did have another interview after that. So I had applied for this job before I'd made that decision. And oddly enough, not with a custom resume. I, it was, There was like two time where I was like, fuck it. Like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So I'm just gonna spray and got like two more interviews out of that.
00:37:32
Speaker
And one of them was really great because was the second round interview. was an hour and a half. And um the guy at the end of it, he was like, look, I'm not supposed to do this, but I really respect you. And I like you a lot, but you're not the person for this job.
00:37:49
Speaker
And if I had another job for you, I would, but I just, I just don't. And I don't want to leave you hanging. And i almost cried, which I think he saw. and I was like, no no, no, I'm not upset. I'm like, I'm not upset. I just like love being treated with respect.
00:38:06
Speaker
you know Did we need to go an hour and a into the interview for that? Probably not. But it was so nice for someone to look me in the eyes and be like, you're not the person for the job and it's not you.
00:38:17
Speaker
And he was like, hey are you okay? And i was like, honestly, that was the most fun way I've ever been rejected. Like that was great. 10 out of 10 would do it again. So I haven't applied to anything since I think I'm going to hold off.
00:38:32
Speaker
You know, if I see something I'll check periodically. And if I see something that's a really great fit for me and my weird little quiver of marketing strategy, then I'll absolutely go for it. But with this market and this economy and the way that things are going, it's more apparent to me than ever that it's time to start betting on myself more than I have been.
00:38:54
Speaker
Definitely. And I think a lot of people feel that way, that just the blanket applying, it doesn't always work. You can get into these interviews where you feel like you've got all the skills, you're getting rejection after rejection. There are people who are getting to like four different sets of final round interviews and they're being rejected from them all.
00:39:15
Speaker
And at some point, it does seem like a lot of people reach that feeling that nobody else is betting on me. I'm going to bet on myself. I'm going to go out. I'm going to get whether it's contract work or picking up some sort of side gig to bring in some income.
00:39:32
Speaker
There comes a point where you do kind of have to go out on a limb and say, if nobody else is going to sink in their trust and bet on me, I'll do it myself and then I'll get there.
00:39:44
Speaker
And it is that... I don't ever like to say silver lining because in my opinion there is no silver lining to being laid off.
Personal Growth Post-Layoff
00:39:53
Speaker
I do think it's one of the things where it's cool to see when people take that leap that they may not have felt comfortable taking before, but they're in such a place where...
00:40:03
Speaker
it is that feeling of what else do I have to lose at this rate? Why not try this? And it'll either be successful and great, that's awesome, or it doesn't end up being a success, but at least I know I tried and I found something and tried something other than just sitting here and waiting for somebody to hopefully give me a job.
00:40:24
Speaker
Yeah, I find myself in that position ah lot. I mean, because truthfully, I loved my job that I did. I mean, I felt like corporate Oprah. I would just like identify stories within the company and i would find fun, creative ways to show them.
00:40:41
Speaker
So like I worked with an ambassador, set of like professional surfers and signed them on. And we worked with a nonprofit in Hawaii and i couldn't get the company to sign off on budget So I took it out of my personal, like my marketing team's budget and just stoked out their whole office with new with new product. And we went out there with a film crew and and basically made these little documentaries about it. And like, I was never leave that job. That job was awesome.
00:41:15
Speaker
and And to a certain point, like that would have hindered my personal growth and maybe it had already gotten to that point. Like, i I don't know if I was necessarily pushing myself anymore or growing a lot, but it was very comfortable and I felt good about the work that I did.
00:41:32
Speaker
I mean, ultimately, it was one of the best things that could have been done for me was to kick me out of that position. Which is, you know, that happened to me in my in my 20s. I toured with an instrumental ukulele artist, probably the only one anyone wanted to Google it.
00:41:46
Speaker
And it amazing. Probably one of the best jobs I've ever had. Like it was peaceful. Yeah, I imagine. it it was great. He's just the nicest guy. And I was with him for five years and he got new management and it's pretty common, I think, which I guess even in corporate, like new, you know, they change the guard when a new guy comes in and, you know, new manager comes in and kind of cleans house and replaces everybody.
00:42:12
Speaker
and I was grief stricken for months over that, over that position. But I never, I wasn't growing. I wasn't making more money. I wasn't pushing myself. I was doing the same thing for five years.
00:42:24
Speaker
Right. And it was one of the best things that could have happened to me, but it it took a lot of sad girl days to realize. Yeah. And you know, you're not the first person to describe it like that, that it's one of the best things that can happen to you.
00:42:40
Speaker
But getting to that place, the way that you get there is so upsetting and challenging. It's back to that dichotomy that we talked about earlier. It's weird to have these feelings that like, this was really beneficial to me in the end, but the way that we got there was really horrific and sad and put me through the wringer.
00:43:01
Speaker
it's It's hard to experience these emotions together because it's not something that most of us have had to do before in our lifetimes, right, to battle these competing emotions.
00:43:13
Speaker
It's weird. And I'm curious too. So, you know, we talked about some days are good, some days are less good. How are you getting yourself through those more difficult days?
00:43:25
Speaker
Like, how do you make sure that you are not getting into that pit of despair? yeah I mean, to be honest, there's some days where I just sit in it. And there's there's not much that you can do. You go to bed early and try again tomorrow.
00:43:39
Speaker
um I've gotten pretty good at not being very self-destructive. with that. I mean, like I, I, as a good millennial have been to a ton of therapy in my life.
00:43:51
Speaker
And so thankfully prior to this instance, I have worked on myself a lot where I've, I've found healthy ways to cope. Um, other than my vacation. yeah
00:44:04
Speaker
So I, I'm really into crafts doing things with my hands. Um, I have a little pottery studio outside on my patio. Uh, so i i have a wheel and I can practice pulling walls, which is like, you know, you make a bowl or you make a shape and you, I'm really bad at it, which I need to practice that more.
00:44:23
Speaker
Uh, anyway, so I do that a lot. Um, and I have a tiny microwave kiln, so I can also make, so I can fire anything that's like three by five inches or smaller.
00:44:34
Speaker
So I do a lot of hand building or I throw teeny tiny things and, um, And so I've been giving a lot of gifts. That has been really nice. Like being able to make a lot of tiny things that I can just give to people. That was great, especially around the holidays.
00:44:48
Speaker
um Oh, I did a craft fair. That was fun. Oh, I garden a lot too. But one of the the biggest and the best things that came from this was comedy.
Embracing Comedy After Layoff
00:44:57
Speaker
I mean, literally like the call with HR where they said, get out, come pick up your stuff within an hour of that call ending.
00:45:06
Speaker
I was Googling San Diego standup comedy classes. And i think I just kind of snapped in a really fun way where I had always wanted to do it. didn't know how to start.
00:45:18
Speaker
i don't, I don't know what I'm doing. Um, but I've just always wanted to try it. And you know, what else do I have to lose? I think I was about to turn 35 and I knew that my uterus was about to be categorized as geriatric.
00:45:32
Speaker
Which is ridiculous, but I'll save that for another day. think in California they call it advanced age, which I'm like, not too much better. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a gentler way to say geriatric for sure, but it's like, is it really different? No.
00:45:49
Speaker
yeah Either way, i don't feel great on the inside. And I was like, man, if we're already downhill, we might, like, what else? I don't have any time left, basically. And I know 35 is not old, but.
00:46:01
Speaker
in that moment was like, we gotta go. So I found a place that's by my house. Cause I also sold my car before I moved here. And I live in a very walkable area, which honestly has been great. Cause like, don't have a car payment, so that's nice.
00:46:17
Speaker
And I found a like comedy workshop that is within walking distance of my house. And I signed up for the class. It started right when I got back from vacation. um And it has changed my life.
00:46:30
Speaker
Like, completely changed the trajectory. It has improved improved my self-esteem. the The things that it has done for me, I did not anticipate whatsoever.
00:46:42
Speaker
Oh, that's so good to hear because I imagine, well, if the layoff had never happened, do you think you would have ever pushed yourself to take a comedy class? I would like to say yes, but 60% chance I would never have done it.
00:46:59
Speaker
Yeah. Why do you think or what do you think would have held you back or what was holding you back from doing it before? oh ego, maybe. Yeah, I think you I probably was like scared to do that because it's, kind you know, it's an art form where it's not like doing a monologue. I mean, it sort of is in the sense of like you memorize something and you say it over and over again.
00:47:22
Speaker
but like you write it, this is you, it's who you are and it's just you on stage and there's no one to help you. And if people like it or they don't, and if they don't like it, it's like, oh, they don't like me.
00:47:34
Speaker
They don't like what I have to say. So it it's a very scary thing if you look at it that way. And I think it's, it's very easy to always have in the back of your mind, like, I want to do this. I want to open a business.
00:47:46
Speaker
I, want to go here and you just tell yourself, like, I'll do it later when I have more money, when I have more time, when this thing changes. And it's just so easy to put stuff off if there's no pressure. And I, and I think for me, the big hindrance was like, I think I'm funny and that's enough for me right now. And one day i will give it a shot. And, but I don't even know if it was that conscious. Like I never verbalized to anyone that I wanted to do this.
00:48:15
Speaker
It was always in my head of like, I want to do this by the time I'm 30 and then COVID hit and you know, life happened. And then I kind of just never thought about it again. And there was just something about that day where it was like,
00:48:30
Speaker
Fuck it, I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it. Yeah. Yeah, and this is the cool thing that I enjoy seeing is people taking that leap to do the things they never thought they would do, right?
00:48:41
Speaker
Like always wanting to go into comedy, having that in the back of your head, thinking, yeah, I'll do it someday. And you know you can keep that going for so long, right? That I'll do it someday. I'll do it someday.
00:48:53
Speaker
I'll get there someday when things are quieter, less stressful, when work isn't so busy. Being or having the time and space to take that leap, there is something cool to that, to getting to that point of saying, now here it is.
00:49:07
Speaker
Here's the opportunity. So I'm curious to hear then, how has it been going for you? Because you said it's been such a great thing. So I guess tell me more about how it's been helpful.
00:49:19
Speaker
I think, i mean, first and foremost, self-esteem. Like I i was a real bummer. right after, which I think, you know, anybody would be. um But it, like, the so basically the way that the class was structured is you get probably seven or eight weeks, like two months, once a week, you meet in this room and you talk about stuff and you give each other feedback. And so my class, there was some people that had done it before. There was other people like me who had never done it and just, you know, wanted to try it
00:49:55
Speaker
So it was a really nice place to get creative. And I had done a lot of writing at my previous job and that's what some of my contracts have been writing. I done script, I wrote a game show for a previous job and I got to host it.
00:50:08
Speaker
It was incredible. I would love to host a game show again. And so it was nice to kind of like stretch the creative part of it. And then to get laughs, like the instant, it is such instant gratification. It's just like really what I needed at that moment.
00:50:23
Speaker
And One of the proctors of the class. So I had a ah woman ran the class. Her name's Lisa Gilbert. She's my comedy mother. Um, if she's listening, hi Lisa.
00:50:35
Speaker
Uh, she's incredible. Um, and, uh, there was another guy who runs another class at the same place who I'm, I'm actually in one of his workshops right now. Tony Calabrese, uh, comedy daddy, as it were. And both of them kind of like very kindly told me like, Hey, if you want to do this, you can do this. Like,
00:50:54
Speaker
you are naturally funny. You're good at writing. Like you can do this. You have to work, but like, if this is something that you want to do, you should. And that, I think that was, those conversations were like, holy shit.
00:51:10
Speaker
Cause I felt like I, I inside, like wanted I was so afraid to say that I wanted this. I don't know why I was so afraid, I guess. Cause it's like such a personal thing and it's comedy. Stand up is this weird,
00:51:21
Speaker
juxtaposition of like, you have to have an ego to get up there and do it, but like you also have to have no ego. Like you're so fragile, but you're also completely unbreakable. And it's this weird, like two things are existing at the same time.
00:51:34
Speaker
um And I don't and don't know how to grapple with it, but it's like, it's an it's an incredible feeling when you can get people to laugh at something that you said, like regularly in like a three minute time period. It's it's incredible.
00:51:50
Speaker
and And it's reassuring. i don't know, there's something about the feeling of giving other people joy, something to make them happy. To be able to offer that to somebody, that's pretty cool, especially a room full of people.
00:52:04
Speaker
And it's also, you know, to your point, there's the self reassurance in, oh, I am funny. I'm not, you know, it's not just me thinking that I'm funny and nobody laughs at my jokes.
00:52:16
Speaker
That's been my life experience, but I digress. um You know, it's got to be so scary, but rewarding to get up there and put this out to the world.
00:52:27
Speaker
And then to get that positive reinforcement back, like this means something to people. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's wild. And I mean, so it ends in a showcase. And like, I invited all of my friends, which Mind you, because I moved here for work, like most of my friends still worked there.
00:52:48
Speaker
Which like we still hang out regularly. I'll still go play volleyball on site. Like until they close the site, I am on the volleyball team. Like going back to work, but you don't actually have to work.
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah, suckers.
00:53:04
Speaker
So I like invited pretty much everybody that I knew in town to come. And like 10 minutes before the show, i was why did I do this? What if I bomb? Why did I invite people here that I knew? This is crazy. This is the dumbest thing I've ever done.
00:53:16
Speaker
Why am I here? Why am I paying to do this? And and then ah the show started. There was like 100 people there for the first time, which also was like a lot of people to do stand up for the first time.
00:53:27
Speaker
And i second I got off stage, I was like, I want to go back. I'm not done. i want to do it again. i have more to say. i never want to not do this.
00:53:41
Speaker
And it has pretty much felt like that every time. I've had one show, I wouldn't that i bombed, but I didn't feel great about it. And I didn't want to go back on stage after that.
00:53:53
Speaker
But sure other than that, like it it's pretty regularly, no matter the venue, like I'll do weird little open mics you know, I've done shows where like eight people have showed up and every time it just still feels great and it's fun.
00:54:11
Speaker
And I feel like it's even more of a challenge if there's like six people there or if it's, you know, sometimes you'll get a room of, and I'm obviously like at a very small level. So I'll do a room with like 30 or 40 people. And if they're real tight and they don't want to laugh, like, I love that.
00:54:27
Speaker
To me, that's a challenge of like, I don't know why you're here. If you're not the mood for comedy, why are you here? But I digress. I'm still going to try and find something that you're going to like.
00:54:37
Speaker
And I don't always do that. Um, but, But I think that that's part of the fun of it. That's the challenge. Right. The challenge is figuring out what it is that's going to get them to laugh. What's going to make them break?
00:54:51
Speaker
Where's that line? Because there's plenty of comedians out there who will go for the cheap laughs, the easy laughs, right? Everybody has those back pocket jokes that you're like, I know this will get somebody to laugh.
00:55:03
Speaker
But when you've got those smaller crowds, I imagine you really do have to think through like, okay, if I don't want to go for that easy laugh, how am i really going to dig in and get them there?
00:55:15
Speaker
And I feel like that's what makes you a better comedian is solving that puzzle, figuring that out and getting them there. And again, it's got to be so rewarding to be like, man, those people really did not want to laugh and I sent them home laughing. I was able to do that.
00:55:30
Speaker
Yeah. And if I have to lower the bar for myself, I will. If it's like this room, because as soon as like the comics, like they'll usually, you know, like we'll hang out in the same area and i'm be like, wow, this sucks tonight. They're really tight or like whatever.
00:55:43
Speaker
And so I'm like, okay, so if if I'm kind of doing an uphill battle anyways, I'm, if I can make them laugh six times in three minutes, like I can live with that. Like, I mean, some people will say differently, but you aim for, I think it's like six laughs per minute.
00:55:58
Speaker
But if the room sucks and people aren't feeling it for whatever reason, like you just lower the bar a little bit. At least it's not bombing, I guess. And I and i can live with myself. Yeah.
00:56:10
Speaker
Well, Chrissy, let me ask you, what's next for you? What does that ideal next step look like? Are you looking to get back into the corporate world? Do you want to stick with comedy?
00:56:21
Speaker
What direction do you see yourself going in?
Balancing Comedy and Career Plans
00:56:25
Speaker
I would definitely still go back into a corporate or like corporate adjacent role. It would have to be something that is very creatively strategic.
00:56:35
Speaker
So i have started developing more, I call it corporate comedy offerings. um So through doing standup, I've made some connections and then just with friends that I've already had.
00:56:49
Speaker
I started doing kind of corporate appearances. I've been hosting events. i hosted an art auction for a nonprofit a little bit ago. And so that has been really great. I can run workshops.
00:57:03
Speaker
So um I'm building out my workshop repertoire and my speeches repertoire. I've been volunteering little bit here and there. And even when I was at my previous job, um i did as much volunteering with the youth stuff that we did as possible. And so I already have a lot of these presentations developed.
00:57:23
Speaker
And then back in Nashville, I was with the Nashville Entrepreneurship Center. And so I'm really passionate about, for example, like storytelling in business, working on people with their pitch decks.
00:57:35
Speaker
So that's some of the stuff I've been doing with my contract work of, you know, you've you've invented this thing, you're applying for a grant, how are we going to convince the governing board to give you $1.6 million? dollars It's yeah, you could just write up all the scientific stuff and that needs to be there. Don't get me wrong. Like you obviously need all the technical information, but people are still people and people want to be told a story.
00:58:00
Speaker
So how do we make this compelling? How do we differentiate you from all the other PhDs that, that submit for this type of thing? So I, I have been the last few months I've been,
00:58:12
Speaker
creating a little repertoire of kind of business strategy, creative strategy, storytelling in business, how to be funny at work without being weird ah type of type of talks.
00:58:27
Speaker
I'm going to hit you up for that because I might need some help with that offline, but we can chat about that later. For sure. And I, because people, they want to be entertained. And especially in this day and age when it's, you know, we want a seven second video and everything's vertical and we've got sludge content, which is like, this was, I don't think it's quite as big anymore, but there was a moment where everybody was on TikTok and like the top half of your screen is like someone playing a video game and the bottom half of the screen is like a TV show.
00:58:54
Speaker
And you're just expected to ah watch both at the same time. Like we're so overstimulated and in need of constant entertainment. Yes. so Like there's such a lot, like how many meetings have you been on in previous jobs where it's like, I cannot hear you talk anymore. Like no matter what the subject is, my camera is off, I'm playing my switch.
00:59:16
Speaker
I do not care. Like, and I hate it when that happens. So and for me, like I I'm taking all of the things that I've kind of developed in, in my previous jobs and I'm,
00:59:29
Speaker
making it in in a way that is applicable to other people to bring into their jobs. Like you don't have to be a comedian to entertain people, especially at work. The bar is so low at work.
00:59:40
Speaker
Like it could be something as simple as change the intonation of your voice, use your hands more. Like everybody has to give really boring presentations, do what you can to keep people interested unless that's not,
00:59:54
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what you want to do and what you're saying is boring and you don't care. So I'm, I'm building all of that out, which you can see at funny means business.com, uh, where i talk about and showcase all the things that I've done. and so that's where anyone can find me. If you want to contact me for contract work, um, hire me to host an event or to do workshops or to speak to people about,
01:00:16
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you know, how to tell stories for really technical, mundane things. Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm building that out a lot and I'm, and I'm hoping that that kind of keeps the traction that it has already and we keep building it.
01:00:31
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Um, so I would say I'm splitting my time between funny means business and my like corporate comedy offerings, and then also pursuing regular standup full time, but that's, you know, there's crossover there. Like corporate comedy is a very lucrative thing.
01:00:46
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business and I'm a clean comedian despite cussing on this podcast. We don't judge all the material. Like I want to make sure not that my mom acknowledges that I do stand up, but if she ever did want to acknowledge it, I want to make sure that everything I say is kosher for her ears.
01:01:06
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Uh, which I think if it's good for her, it's probably good for a business. Yeah. Yes. And I will of course link your website and your socials in the show notes. So if anybody does want to come find you, you can find all of Chrissy's information there, but I can't believe we've already hit an hour.
01:01:24
Speaker
This has flown by Chrissy. Are there any last things that you want to share either about your overalls? overall layoff experience, the headspace you're in now, or any other advice you would give to somebody who is newly going through all of this?
Advice for Job Seekers
01:01:40
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Yeah, I would say find a hobby that keeps you off of your phone. So for me, that was either surfing or pottery. Don't obsess over LinkedIn. i Pretty much all of the interviews and and connections that i have made have been from Indeed.
01:01:59
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Uh, I wouldn't even bother with LinkedIn premium. I've sent so many messages that have never, it's, I don't see the point. Um, I would say don't even bother and don't, don't do it for eight hours a day. Like some people will say, treat looking for a job, like a job.
01:02:15
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That's, it's not healthy. Eight hours a day, like working on your resume and thinking about how you don't have a job is not healthy.
01:02:27
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Don't do it. Go outside. Put your phone down. um Hang out with friends. Like ah it's, I'll never say have fun. Cause that's the worst thing that you could tell someone who doesn't have a job is enjoy it.
01:02:40
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Right? Like go enjoy your free time. Shouldn't you be grateful for it? oh swear i No, I will not. Yeah. And try something new, you know, push yourself, do something weird.
01:02:55
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Yes, I am such a big proponent of that. I'm always the first person to do the weird things. so Well, Chrissy, thank you. i truly can't thank you enough. I appreciate you coming on here.
01:03:07
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I wish you all of the success in your comedy, in your job search. I do hope you get something that is that perfect blend. It gives you the creativity that lets you flex those creative and comedic skills.
01:03:21
Speaker
Either way, you're going to be brilliant. So thank you. Thank you so much for coming on to share with us. Thank you so much, Jackie. I love this podcast. I i was so stoked listening to the first couple episodes, and I'm absolutely honored that you responded to my LinkedIn premium message and and that we were able to connect.
01:03:41
Speaker
Yes. Well, funny enough, now that I am out of a job, I have all the time in the world to respond to LinkedIn messages. so funny me how that works out right well thank you again Chrissy and you take care thanks you too see ya If you'd like to find Chrissy to see her next stand-up comedy gig, or if you'd like to hire her for your next corporate comedy need, all of her information is linked in the show notes.
01:04:09
Speaker
If you have a question that you would like us to answer, or if you have a story you'd like to share with us, you can always email us at lostmyjobpodcast at gmail.com.
01:04:21
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That's lostmyjobpodcast at gmail.com.