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Fans react to Seattle Sounders CCC quarterfinals at Tigres UANL!
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We react and take calls following Seattle's Concacaf Champions Cup quarterfinals Leg 1 at Tigres UANL.
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Introduction and Episode Logistics
00:00:00
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00:00:22
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Well sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be a real scorcher today. Why the scorcher today? Well it's gonna be scorcher.
Seattle Sounders vs Tigris: Quarterfinals Overview
00:00:44
Speaker
Good evening, everybody, and welcome to your postgame live for leg one of the CONCACAF Champions Cup quarterfinals. The Seattle Sounders are down 2-0 to Tigris after leg one, and we've got a full panel at the Sounder at Heart Studio in the ID. We got Noah and I here. We got Jackson Feltz, 93.3 Sports Radio, KJR, host of Sounders Weekly, and we got Jaya and Tula of the new, I mean, are we launching the... heads Do you want a hard launch? coming soon. yeah hard we new new podcast friends. Keep your eyes peeled for a new podcast coming
Panel Reactions to Sounders' Deficit
00:01:18
Speaker
soon. But we got ah we got a five-person panel to react to this result tonight. We're going to be giving our thoughts, ah maybe doing the presser. I don't know if there's CONCACAF issues with that. I'll and find it you guys keep cooking noah is going to try and find the presser so we'll see if we can make that happen uh and uh we're gonna be breaking down this 2-0 deficit that the seattle sounders are now looking at after leg one in uh in monterey a pretty frustrating night i think it's fair to say uh 2-0 is not insurmountable the series is definitely not over and uh this can still be done but it's definitely uh it's dicey now and uh
00:01:56
Speaker
Jackson, we'll start with
Can the Sounders Overcome the 2-0 Deficit?
00:01:58
Speaker
you. 93.3 KJR, Sounders Weekly. ah How are you feeling, man? 2-0 deficit. The CCC dream is kind of feeling like they're hanging by the ropes, hanging on the ropes right now. Yeah.
00:02:12
Speaker
I don't know if I'd say rope, sorry, but I would say that, you know, it's, it's, it's, we're not at the, we're not at the, the gif of not great Bob, ah but but we're, we're nearing there, you know, because it's one of those things where with two, nothing coming home against a team, you know, for a Sounders team, I should say that last year, let's remember defeated the CONCACAF champions seven, nothing. So they're absolutely in this series. I think losing three nothing that would have felt insurno amenable in a lot of ways. Ari, but I do think that to nothing is a lead. You can absolutely come back from. You can win a game to nothing, three nothing.
Strategies for Second Leg: Opportunities and Physicality
00:02:54
Speaker
And I think a lot of this game and a lot of this series comes down to can the Sounders do two things. Can they take advantage of opportunities? Because clearly we saw Paul Rothrock cross comes into the box. He has a chance to put the ball in the back of the net and it it ends up you know not going for the sound of the score in the second half. So that's the first thing is is scoring your opportunities. But I think secondly, and maybe the most important thing, because this goes across all sorts of the field, is you've got to match their physicality.
00:03:25
Speaker
You can't be outworked by him. You can't let them knock you off the ball as easily because Tigres in many, many cases were far more physical than the Sounders tonight.
00:03:36
Speaker
And I think you got to match that physicality coming up in leg two. And if you do both of those things, then yeah, absolutely. This series is still over there for them. It's an uphill battle, but it's it's nothing that the Seattle Sounders haven't done before.
00:03:50
Speaker
Yeah, I think the frustrating thing is that there were the chances there in this game. I think there were three really big chances that I can think of. The one that Rothrock had that you mentioned. Rothrock had another one that he just skied from inside the box that I thought was a really good look. And then there was, I feel like, a couple others that I'm not even thinking of the first half. Yeah, Jordan had one. So really, if you could have gotten one road goal, I think we'd all be feeling a lot better about the state of affairs.
00:04:19
Speaker
But that that being said, you know, 2-0 when you got the whole second leg at home to go. If you if you come out and you score one goal, it's absolutely game on again. We talked about this when Seattle was playing the Whitecaps in the last series when they were up 3-0. And the Whitecaps, remember how how that felt when the Whitecaps scored that first goal in in Spokane? And it was like, OK, this is feeling a little dicey. Now you're one goal closer than that. Really? You just got to come out at home and score one goal and you are right back in
Frustration Over Missed Opportunities
00:04:48
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it. I think it just ah it doesn't feel like that right now coming off that game where you can see two pretty unfortunate goals and you can't quite get the real goal yourself. So I think I think it feels the situation feels worse than it actually is right now. Let's get and Tula in here. how How are you feeling about 2-0 coming into this home leg in Seattle? Are you on the this feels insurmountable end of the spectrum or are you feeling confident that the comeback can manifest here?
00:05:19
Speaker
um Current run of form, I can't help but feel hopeful. personally. I think that that one was really difficult to watch, especially at the end. But I do agree with your point because I think that once we're playing at home, I am very confident that we'll win at home. um Knock on wood or whatever. But I think that it was it was yeah hard to watch, but I i believe in us strongly. so Noah, you got the tech set up.
00:05:49
Speaker
You got the presser pulled up over there. It looks like we are going to be able to ah watch the presser. So that's good news. As long as they didn't do it yet. Okay. yes we We're staring at an empty podium right now. We're seeing some Saudi oil ads. That's always good. Caliente ad. A dying Jackson Feltz over here.
00:06:05
Speaker
You know, kind of like this tech situation, it looked good at times, but maybe behind the scenes, it was a little bit of a shit show. i felt like I felt like there were some moments here where... no I'm not used to this. i Live radio, we're not supposed to swear. I'm not used to this. I could last on live radio. I've done it before, but maybe maybe that's my new challenge is not to swear, but You know, there were times where this could have been 2-2 game. There were times where this could have been a 4-0 game. There were times when it could have been ah a one nill game. it was It didn't feel like Tigres took over the game until about 20 minutes before the end the match. got the Tigres coach at the podium now. Do we need to watch that guy? I don't really need to I don't really want to hear from that guy. I think normally visitors go first, so we may have missed it.
00:06:54
Speaker
Okay. No, we're not that long from. We'll see. We'll see. We'll find out. He's going yap, but like, we're not going to, we're not going to play the Tigris coach presser. I frankly, I don't, I don't want to hear what he has to say right now. Yeah. In fact, yeah. Get him muted. I don't even want to hear his not part of this conversation. He's not part
Was the Penalty to Tigris Justified?
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of this conversation.
00:07:12
Speaker
Not important. Never has been. Yeah, I think, you know what's frustrating about the first to half, guys, is like, I felt like it was actually going pretty well until yes until the new who penalty. I was like, all right, this is fine. They've had a couple of chances, and, ah you know, Steph Rye had to make that one save early, and that was a pretty good chance for them. And they had they had a couple of other good ones in the first half, but once they got close to first half stoppage time at 0-0, I was like, all right, this is...
00:07:41
Speaker
this is fine. This is fine. ah The longer it stays zero zero, the more that suits Seattle. And then there's that penalty call on new who, which let's talk about that. What do we think of that, of that call? Let's do the discourse because that was one of those where when I saw it live, I was like, no way, no way. That's a penalty. Then I saw the replay the first time. And I was like,
00:08:03
Speaker
No way. No way they call that incidental contact. Then I saw the replay a third time, and I was like, they're going to call that. they're You know when the guy goes down, lays down, pulls the cover over him, puts his pillow, starts screaming and rolling around like he's having nightmares. He hopped back onto the field. you see he He went down, and he dragged himself back onto the field to play, and that's when you knew this guy is fine, and he's milking it. I liked his diving because you it looked like he was actually crying.
00:08:31
Speaker
He didn't know like he's in tears. yeah Honestly, Fair play. Okay, you know what? Fuck it. Yeah, actually. Let him have that penalty. If you're going commit to the tears, go for it. No, we can't do that. We can't do that.
00:08:44
Speaker
do We can't allow them to get away with that. How much do we fault Nuhu? How much do we fault mean, he doesn't even look... He's not looking him. It's not reckless challenge. That's how I feel, but, you know, coming from me, no one's going to listen to that, but I don't really think he could have done that much. As the Nuhu Brigader, like, I don't think... what I mean, like, sure, I guess he could have held up his run a little bit more. You're defending. That's one of those calls that doesn't get called in a non-VAR era. And I'm sorry
VAR's Impact on the Game
00:09:10
Speaker
not to bang on the anti-VAR drum, but really?
00:09:14
Speaker
Really? We're to do five extra minutes of stoppage time because guy's rolling around on the ground and got a bunch of losers sitting in ah a shipping container in the middle of, you know, wherever. And they're like, ah hold on, let's actually replay that at.0008 speed. Yep, slow that down a little bit more. Can we enhance that image where it kind of maybe looks like Nuhu is stepping on someone? Yep, okay, yeah, cool. If it's not called on the field, I'm sorry, what are we doing?
00:09:41
Speaker
What are we doing? It took too long. The call had been made. ridiculous Like, sure, it's a penalty. Okay, yes. But if it's not cold on the field and it's already a chippy game, are we really going to change up the momentum that much? I'll say this. If the roles were reversed and that was a Seattle player getting stepped on, no way that they ever get that no penalty. No, no. Nor would I be that mad.
00:10:05
Speaker
Yeah, no, I mean, i'm I'm not even saying that for sour, I'm saying that a little for sour grapes, but they would never have given that, ah they would never have given that penalty to Seattle. Never in a million years. It's fine though. It's Ball don't lie. Yeah, Ball don't lie. He made Angel Correa up with the penalty into the 27th row, so that was fun. That was probably the highlight of the night from a Seattle perspective when he stepped up to the spot. And, you know, i think we were all sure it was going to be 1-0 at that point. And then he blamed it into the next galaxy and the next dimension.
00:10:36
Speaker
i felt with that in my bones. really yeah I did stand up and say... Can I get some credit for the reverse jinx? Yeah, yeah. We did have yeah Jackson Fultz reverse jinx. 100% said that he was going to hit that. And as usual, it worked. What was going through y'all's minds in that moment?
00:10:50
Speaker
Well, that was difficult for me because VAR was maybe two pixels. five yes So I couldn't actually tell at all where Nuhu's foot was, even though I kind of, like, maybe his foot was direct on ankle.
00:11:03
Speaker
But hard to tell if it's five pixels. Yeah, i think it was difficult because we were kind of looking at an oil painting. But yeah i think even, you know, I don't really, I'm more mad at how dramatic the guy was to the point that I'm like, I almost don't even care what actually happened because you need to get up off your butt. Yeah, actually, if you're triple rolling back onto the field, I have a problem with it. And I'm going to say it. That's like, yeah, the game is gone, perhaps. Like when you're doing all of that,
00:11:33
Speaker
at home. were they are Is this the equivalent of Minnesota United? No, I'm not even going to start that discourse. I'm not going to start that discourse. It ended up mattering because he missed the penalty. And then they ended up scoring pretty much right after the second half started. So I guess let's talk about that.
00:11:50
Speaker
That sequence, I haven't even watched the replay yet, but it looked like it looked like Alex might have had the initial giveaway and then that started the sequence. And then honestly, that guy had a pretty stiff back heel. I'm not even going to lie. i was a good assist. Me and Jax were both like... It's one of those plays where you can't even just credit any play. You just have to chalk it up. to That's the one of the best.
00:12:14
Speaker
Maybe, honestly, the of the day, that'll go down as the assist of the year for Sounders opponent. I mean, that play was spectacular. It's a great finish. Fry has very little, if any, chance to actually get that ball. It's a tremendous goal, and you have to tip your hat. Yeah, a goal like that, you can say, know, the giveaway what creates the whole situation. So it's an example of like, even the new penalty too, it's an example of how in these games, in this tournament, you've got to be just so locked every single second of... every single game. Otherwise, like the margins, very thin. That new penalty, that's a play, that's on the margins. That Alex Roldan giveaway, you don't really think that it could lead to something like that in the moment. And then that's how they get their first goal. But even then, you know, it was and there was a lot of time left to go in the second half. I felt good on the 1-0. I felt okay. I felt okay. Basically, my whole thing with this game was you just, you can't be FC Cincinnati, all right?
00:13:18
Speaker
And if you're FC Cincinnati, you're in trouble. This series is going to be over before you even have the chance to go back to Seattle. It looks like the tech with the press conference over there is not. I think they just ended it because I think they might have just ended it. Brian already. speak ryan We must have missed the Schmetz presser. Let's see here then. Whatever. It's a lot.
00:13:37
Speaker
to say it it's fine he's been he's been over the moon ah on the pressers a sounder a heart on blue sky says it was a short presser not getting any players but a few highlights schmetzer says quote we're down to nothing so we understand the objective now the chances we created we should have scored one maybe two at the end of the game they were putting us under a lot of pressure that's very good team but two nothing is two nothing it could have been three it could have been four schmetzer on the difference between the first and second half Goal puts us under some pressure and we lifted them. We're losing possession. We didn't have a good of possession as we had in the first half. um Yeah. So Spencer on the mood. It's good. We're keeping them positive. This is an experienced team. We'll be at home. It's a long trip since Houston. Wait, where's the pen?
00:14:23
Speaker
I think that I, uh, I'm mostly on. Thank you. sad Thank you. Senator Hart for yeah here's, here's my, here's my bri schmetzer reaction.
00:14:33
Speaker
Well, Jeremiah, you know, could be worse? Yeah, but he clicks his pen when he's mad. I don't think he was overly mad about this one. I feel like this was at least five pen clicks.
00:14:45
Speaker
Five? Sure. We're not talking about a 50-pen click. here's probably You're on the pace of about 100-pen clicks right now. I think everyone is going to feel like at least one road goal should have been procured. And if that had happened, I think we we would be sitting here feeling great right now. If they had just had if it was 2-1 and they had a road goal and they were coming back to Seattle only down one goal with the with the road goal in their pocket, I would be not cloud nine, but I'd be pretty happy.
00:15:11
Speaker
Now I'm pretty unhappy. So that's how big of a difference that role goal would have, would have made. But I think once, ah once the dust settles and I wake up tomorrow, I think I'm going to be locked back in and feeling like, all right, this is a winnable series that what you had to avoid was letting it spiral out of control. Like I said, three, three, no is like not over, over, but it's like pretty much getting there. You, you just went out in the sun and you got sunburned and you're peeling and you're like, yeah, let me go on the boat. It's the not great Bob. Yeah. Yeah, it's not great. bob It would have been really not great, Bob Giff, if they had gotten three-o'd. It could have been worse. get into situation Getting two-o'd, like I said, when you're two-o'd at halftime, essentially, of a series, one goal is all it takes to to change everything. If you score one And almost had it.
00:15:59
Speaker
ah Like, you look at that whole game you look at that game as a whole. The second half, okay, a little bit of a disaster class. You always kind of know that. MLS teams open up in the second half. You're in Mexico. You're on short rest. what You know, what's going to happen? You hold it to two goals. that Like, they looked...
00:16:16
Speaker
like they could have had one or two in that first half. So if they can complete those and finish those at home, yeah all right, take it to PK, see what happens. And keep in mind, guys, we're going to be coming off of no weekend no game. This is a Tigres team who is playing on Saturday at home. yeah So they're going to have to play at home and then travel. Sounders get to come back tonight and they haven't been home for a long time since traveling to Houston, you know, early last week. So I guess late last week. So this is a sounder team right now. That's going to be healthy, rested. And they're also going to be able to play that kind of lineup that they want to play because you're going to be able to not have to, you know, start a team that's playing off of a Houston game on the weekend before you get to start Ferreira on the right. And you get to start Albert Rustak in the middle. And you get to start, you know, exactly the way Brian Schmetzer wants to run this lineup, knowing he needs to score two goals. I like how this sets up from just a, you know, a strategy standpoint going into this game, knowing what you
Sounders' Lineup Strategy
00:17:14
Speaker
need. But again, you got to match their physicality. You cannot get out physical by this team. And this is a team who's going to be coming to Seattle, who's going to be falling down, who's going to wasting time from 30 seconds on. They're just going be wasting, wasting, wasting. Yeah. And you got to be physical, but not physical to the extent of letting them just roll around for 30 minutes in this game, which they're going to want to do. You stay up too.
00:17:38
Speaker
You're not going to get your calls. You didn't tonight. I think that's honestly Christian. Christian played that really beautiful through ball. It was incredible. And honestly, I think that was one of the best chances of the night. They had a couple good chances off those through balls. But what ah any constructive criticism I would have for one of the greatest Sounders of all time is stay on your feet, my friend. Get a little stronger. Get stuck in. Get get on your toes. Like, low center of gravity. You're going to get shoved over in the midfield. They're letting they're letting eights play. They don't care. They do not care.
00:18:10
Speaker
I think that was a big problem was not adjusting to that at halftime and being like, all right, I'm going to stay up. I'm going to keep trying to win that play. When we see the Sounders do that, that's what they did against Miami. guess what happened?
00:18:22
Speaker
They made them look stupid. Like, play strong, be strong. That's why I like Theo Sazze shout at the nine. He's big, tall, strong. But I don't know. It it they did feel like they were getting pushed around in that center midfield a lot, which led to, you know, some some bad moments. And I mean, also, the new who turnover that that leads to whatever. But yeah, I...
00:18:45
Speaker
Strong, strong boys. Be strong. Let's talk about the lineup for this game. Can we talk Russnack? Can we do it? Sure. Can we do it? I mean, yeah. I was going to talk about the lineup in general, but what do you want to do? Well, we got to start with Russnack. Are you guys having an issue with are people saying that he like... I don't know. I wanted to hear what... I mean, I see James in chat. Well, yeah. So I just assumed that he was... Let's diffuse this very, very quickly. Yeah. Jesus Ferreira started in Houston. Correct.
00:19:16
Speaker
And Albert Rusnak starts on short rest today. Yeah. No, it's more of a a larger conversation, I think, of was what were we missing? are we Were we missing Albert in Houston more than we were missing Jesus in this game? That's my question. And does it even matter? And is this even really a conversation worth having? I think we'll toss it back here first. Yeah.
00:19:42
Speaker
That's mean, but um um
00:19:49
Speaker
I mean, I think I'd prefer Jesus starting than Rusnak, but also and don't know if Jesus does corner kicks like Rusnak does, but maybe that's a terrible take. I'm not sure.
00:20:01
Speaker
That would get the brigade riled up, but ah I assume I think they're I mean, I personally think they're pretty. There's the podcast name, right? on sue su mean But I don't know. I think the I might feel more strongly about this if I felt like chance generation was what did them in in this game.
00:20:23
Speaker
I didn't really feel like that. Again, i feel like, you know, if you create three or four big looks in a game like this on the road quarterfinals opener at one of the better league Mechies teams, that's like probably what you're looking at, what you're going to have, no matter who's starting where. Okay. So if I felt like there weren't those looks in this game where they could have got the road goal, I might be like, okay, they should have lined it up differently. And maybe that would have changed things. But when you look at the looks that they, that they did have, know,
00:20:52
Speaker
They were pretty good. Like that Rothrock one, that's like, that's as good of a look as you could hope to have. yeah So for me, it was an issue of just not finishing those looks. And then, and then again, like the, the reason that they're up against the wall now after this game is because of the goals that they conceded, not like because of yeah like any issues that they had on the other side of the ball. The the first goal is very much just a brilliant moment of talent and skill and and great soccer. Second one, it goes to the point, Noah, you said it, I've said it, it's the physicality.
00:21:24
Speaker
yeah you You just got beat physically. got bullied up it comes on as an own goal, but but where you can really chalk that up is there they just had a great moment of physicality, and they beat you. And you cannot let that happen for a moment next Wednesday. No.
00:21:40
Speaker
They shouldn't have let it happen after halftime. would have loved to be... The end of this game was not fun at all. They were getting cincyed a little bit, and that's where there was a couple moments where I was feeling like, man, they got to be careful because this could go off the rails. And to be fair, they kept it to the two. So they did give themselves a chance by doing that. So that's the good news. there is any good news coming off a result like this, it's that you kept it within range where you can still get this done in the home leg. And that's...
00:22:10
Speaker
From the sense of like you just you really needed to not let this go off the rails. They at least cleared that bar. So you were you' wobbling. Your train car was wobbling. It was wobbling. It definitely the last 10 minutes. It was super wobbling. You had women and children screaming. It was good. But yeah. Getting out getting out at 2-0 after how that kind of ended.
00:22:32
Speaker
I feel a lot better about that then you know they had they had the ah pretty wide open header go off the post that could have made it three zeros. So I mean you add that at the penalty this easily could have been a for nothing and then and then it is curtains. It is so so there's there's a lot of reasons we're on that long flight back. You're going to be able to say to yourselves.
00:22:51
Speaker
this is only two and, and they're not going to, we we know back at home. i mean, guys, this is a team who hasn't played at Lumen's field since the first
Home Stadium Advantage
00:23:00
Speaker
game of the season. Like they're going to be wanting to get back three blocks from here and they're going to be wanting to get back and, and not only play good soccer for their home fans, but also represent themselves better than tonight where we're, Hey, we are a physical team. We are a team who can, you know whoop a, you know, a top Mexican team, like seven, nothing like we did last year. So yeah, I'm, I'm in full belief that this team is, is you're going to have heads not dropping on the flight home. Yeah. Can I say something that might be kind of controversial?
00:23:30
Speaker
Yeah. That's what, the yeah that's what this shows for. This game needed Pedro de la Vega.
00:23:39
Speaker
You know, what's funny is I right before. Is that supposed to be controversial? Yeah. Like I had the exact. Oh, I had the exact same thought of like, I feel like some of the discourse with that gets overblown in the sense that it's like to start this season. Like, yeah, obviously you want your DPs healthy. Obviously you want Pedro de la Vega on the field. You also have the Pauls literally playing and producing at essentially like a DP level. yeah Right now. So like when you're talking about the league season and how they've started this season, it has not like it hasn't been like deal breaking that they haven't had him.
00:24:13
Speaker
But a game like this, like a road game in CCC where you're playing against Tigris and, you know, chances are going to be few and far between. That is where it hurts, man. yeah that's where it hurts if you If you had him on the wing instead of Paul Areola, I like Paul. but It's just a different different it's a different level. it's different what about What about Georgie?
00:24:36
Speaker
What about Georgie? What about Georgie? What about him? does this game What you said. Exactly. ah I love Georgie. I wish him all the best. I don't know how much he would have changed this game personally because I kind of agree that this team is, Tigres is really physical and while Georgie was super quick, quick feet, he was not necessarily a physical player and I think it's better to have someone like Areola
00:25:09
Speaker
On the field because he is going to chirp. Yeah, he was. He was chirping. he's He, to me, is right for this game yeah over Georgie.
00:25:20
Speaker
Wish you all the best, Georgie. Prove me wrong. Please. I think there's some games where Georgie definitely like going on near the end is super useful.
Impact of Missing Key Players
00:25:29
Speaker
I don't think that this would be one of them, personally. De La Vega, he's the one guy who, when it feels like there's no goal to be found anywhere and you're never going to get one, he can just make he can just make it happen. He can just make it happen out of nowhere. He's built for tournaments like this. Yeah, and that's that's the most difficult thing find. It's the most difficult thing to replace.
00:25:52
Speaker
And... There was a lot of... you know We went back and forth for 45 minutes on this, but like the reason that I'm more much more hesitant to move off of is because is because of that exact thing, because he can... ah He can give you that. yeah i mean i think we're We're agreeing on this. We agree on that. And you know I think our take was, or that that conversation was more about a ah roster of, you're still missing him. This is a game that needs him. How do you replace him? The fact that they need him and didn't have him in this game is kind of like, it's the point. Speaking of but players, I think you need and you didn't have. As much as I love Paul Kingston. um i don't know. Shout out Paul Kingston. Shout out Pablo de la Vega.
00:26:36
Speaker
you know yeah I think that one of the things is is when you Brian makes that change for the the midfield there, yeah which I think was the right timing of that. I think that Kingston is the guy you have to make. i don't think you can put in Hassani Dotson at that point more of a defensive player, but that's where Nikola Pekovic could have very much been an impactful substitution. and missing him, i think in a game like this, where he kind of, ah obviously we're not talking De La Vega, but a guy who can very much create things. And we've seen such good things before his injury, that that's a guy that I think you needed in this game that you didn't have. And it sucks that he's that he's out for the year because I think his creativity is something that a substitution, an attacking midfield substitution, that's a piece that you need now that you don't have. I liked how Pete played tonight, and I especially liked that he... Paul, you mean? Yeah. paul i liked how paul did the third paul I liked how Paul Kingston played tonight, and I especially liked how he mugged Jignac and got a yellow for it and got in his head. Jignac crashed out. That's a 42-year-old man coming yeah after Peter Kingston. that that and That dude's on social security. Yeah.
00:27:42
Speaker
and and And Pete did not care. He did not care that Jignac was that angry. But like that's good conca-caffing. That's what you need. like So that was that was good that he did that. And in general, I feel like i felt like Pete actually genuinely, he he seemed to be helping matters more than he was making anything worse. Yeah, you definitely, I think it's, yeah, it's one of those things where I think we're tearing every little piece apart and you wish that the roster was fully healthy. You wish the roster was maybe a little bit bolstered, but
00:28:15
Speaker
at the end of the day, you walk away 2-0 with a game that looked like it was getting ugly. Like, I don't know. I think I peed like 10 times because I was so nervous in this game. So I don't really... These ones are... Like, I don't really enjoy watching these these ones.
00:28:32
Speaker
Do we have a Galaxy update? Like, let's see how bad they're getting absolutely smacked on right now. Maybe they're winning. We don't know. Nope, they're losing 2-0. Okay. Well, there we go. There we go. So, you know, Seattle's...
00:28:44
Speaker
probably going to end up doing better than them. Not that that's a very high bar, but what did we think they should not, why are they even playing that series? That's just like pointless for everyone involved that you just put to Luca through at that point. Like there really was not much Moreno. Nico Moreno with the text. mine She probably doesn't want me to read it but I'm go to say it anyway. Jackson upset with not having Petkovic, but okay with Brian not starting a five-assist most influential attacker. Okay, so let's talk. Nico, Nico, let's, okay, so Nico wasn't on when I said this 20 minutes ago, so I'll repeat this again.
00:29:16
Speaker
Jesus started in Houston. This is called rotation, Nico. I love you, buddy, but it's rotation. I would love for him to start and play 45 or 60. Was anyone very upset at the Paul wing duo with not having for her? was just shocked that Paul went double 90s. Yeah. So, okay. Here's what I was thinking. Here's what I was thinking. This has been the Paul. I love you, Nico. But come on, buddy. This has been the Please read it. We're good. We're good. Okay. This is CONCACAF. It's sacrilegious. That's what he said. He said, play Jesus Ferreira. This has been the Paul Areola tournament so far. And Paul Rothrock has been in such good form. He's been scoring goals every week. he almost had one, dude. He puts a little more power on that. That's in the back of it He almost had one. So I was thinking before the game, like, what what's he going to do? Is he going to start Paul Rothrock or Paul Areola? It turns out that he started them both. But I thought that I thought that he was going to go with Paul Areola because Paul Areola has been starting in this tournament. He played great in Vancouver. He played in Liga and Mequis. So this honestly, one of the big reasons you bring Paul Areola to this team is for a game like this. so i thought he i thought he stood up fine yeah no i yeah like i thought that starting him i just like he was made total sense and i also thought that going off that like you mentioned rothrock has been playing a lot he played the whole game in houston i think it would have made perfect sense to you bring rothrock off the bench and start jesus yes jesus would have been playing double 90s as yeah well but like he You start you like no no i start your start your team's leading goal scorer. No, no, no. You roll with your team's leading goal scorer. Jesus Flair is your leading best playmaker. Yeah. he's he is I'm sorry. I love Paul Rothrock.
00:31:02
Speaker
Paul Rothrock. Clearly, yeah. but here's the thing Also, tucking in the jersey? Yeah, bro. I got style in class. What are we talking about? Javier Arriaga. He's Now, listen, Paul Rothrock, you start him because he leads your team in goals and he creates. He's dog off the bench. He's not offended. He's sitting on the bench. He's a dog any time you put him on the field. He's going to create things any time, any where. it. Cook him.
00:31:31
Speaker
Okay, but you look at overall this season, more often than not, when Paul Rocker is on the field, he's creating a goal. And he did. He got, he was so close to a classic. That's the thing, right? He was so close to a classic. If he scores the classic, we're talking about how brilliant it was.
00:31:48
Speaker
yes i just i listen you don't rotate with when it comes to paul rothrock you play paul rothrock rotate when it comes to paul rothrock it's jesus ferreira he is going to be the dp number 10 on this team next year he is not on the field i agree with nico on this like i love paul rothrock you sub him in in the 60th minute no you don't know that's what you're gonna pander just to nico i'm not pandering to Nico. I said this the whole time. I was like, I want Jesus Ferrer. You take off Rusnak, you push Ferrer to the 10 and you bring on Paul Rothrock. That gives you a completely new look. That's how I would have played it. Brian Schmetzer, give me a call. I am available for assistant coaching games. I back Brian. I think he made the right decision and the lineup, I mean, frankly, again, it was 0-0 at the half.
00:32:31
Speaker
and i And I think based on that, and the team also looked good for much of that first half and looked like they were right in position to get a result at, you know, Mexico. And and i I think that it was there for them. It was. You're right. and And what we're looking at simply is two moments where, one,
00:32:50
Speaker
You just got to tip the hat at their quality. And two, they out physical deal on a corner. And outside two moments, then we're looking at a result for the Sounders. And you look at Rothrock had that chance. And more often than not, he's putting that in the back of the net. So I think that Brian made the right calls on everything.
00:33:12
Speaker
It's difficult because I really don't think Rosnak is playing that bad right now. I also don't think he's doing that bad, and I don't know if I'm just missing something. It's always hard to know. I don't think he's doing as great as he usually. He's played well. I feel gaslit on this a lot, too, because there's this red-hot polarizing discourse, and I'm sitting there like, I feel like he played pretty much fine. He had 16 assists last year.
00:33:36
Speaker
so I feel like I'm taking crazy pills on it, too. But in this situation, ah I don't know. I mean, are you saying that ah you're saying you would have gone Jesus?
Debate on Starting Lineup Choices
00:33:46
Speaker
No, what I would have done is I would have started Jesus on the wing with Albert at at the 10. He didn't play in the bench.
00:33:54
Speaker
Ariel? No, I would bench Paul Rothrock, bring him in in the 60th minute, take out Rusnak, and then move Ferreira to the 10. If you're going to play Rothrock 9-0. If Rusnak's cooking, you keep him on. You can sub out Areola for Rothrock, or if Jesus is playing bad. you That's way more versatility than saying Paul Paul, Rusnak. I disagree.
00:34:18
Speaker
but i think everyone got so tight so clearly so tired at the end if you had paul throw in i think paul paul paul's double 90 and you you set him up for for for a double 90 dude i know his ass is burning right now i mean come on yeah but yeah but you know you know rothrock wouldn't have it any other way no i know he wouldn't he's gonna hit my number and be like bro i'm playing i'm gonna play a game this weekend just uh just to just because No, you guys know I love Paul Rothbrock. They have not been running double Pauls much this year. like they've been playing one Paul or the other Paul. Like been in Vancouver. Three Pauls today. is a matter There was, there was a third. There is now a third. A third Paul hit the stadium. Shout out. We were, we were saying that like, if you're a commentator and you're saying a guy's name, and you realize halfway through, you're like, okay, I don't know what this guy's name is. When it comes to the Seattle Sounders, if you just throw Paul out there, you have a better chance at being right than any other name you could say. So he went for it. He said Paul Kingston. It didn't pay pay off. But like i don't mind yeah I don't mind the dart throw because there's no other kind of – there's no other direction he could have gone that would have given him a better chance there. so in public
00:35:27
Speaker
I want to toss it to you, too, to get us with some some more discussion on just vibes generally. What are the vibes right now? Because I don't feel bad, but don't feel good. feel kind of bad, but not horrible. Yeah, I think that's the vibe director in Chiefs. And also me.
00:35:47
Speaker
Yeah, I think... Well, I'm scared to say my take. Say it. You got to say it. For the next one, for when they come here, I think they should play Thomas instead. Is that correct?
00:35:59
Speaker
potential PK situation. But so, okay, my whole thing is like, I'm fine with Fry starting in this tournament as long as if there's a PK situation. They swap. Yeah. but i But also, when Nuhu got the penalty tonight, I was like, low-key...
00:36:16
Speaker
i was I kind of want but then he missed the PK so you know it was fine it ended up working all it was all fine yeah um I think I think vibes are still okay honestly i don't feel too horrible after this loss because the season has gone so well and Like are usually when the Sounders start the season, we aren't good.
00:36:40
Speaker
No, we aren't good. And to start this season as well as we are being in, you know, regular season and a tournament. I'm okay with the 2-0 loss on the road. And especially coming back home, I think there's gonna be so much hype behind it. um I mean, personally, I've been counting down the days. I'm really excited to get in there and scream so loud and go insane. And I think that'll help. And I'm i'm not too worried.
00:37:09
Speaker
I'm not too worried. Was anybody here in Spokane? Wonderful. all can answer this. Start of the game was still the bluest guys ever seen are in Seattle and they didn't change it to Spokane.
00:37:21
Speaker
ah I don't know. so yeah i don't know. I was i was i busy of eating a sandwich from the VIP section that I wasn't supposed to. So dedicated. Just love that. Because i I think that the hype of being back in Seattle and having the energy of our fans and how a hopefully there's a good 30,000 next Wednesday night under the game is at 8.30 p.m. My God. But like the energy from our home fans at Lumen Field in our building where we whooped seven nothing Mexican CONCACAF champs last year.
00:37:53
Speaker
I think that the team is going to build off that. so So it's sort of like, it's not Spokane. I know that was a home game. It's not a home game. So there there's going to be another level to this game next Wednesday. I just want to say, if you see me at the game next Wednesday, do not spoil Survivor for me, please. Second that.
00:38:09
Speaker
Second that. Do not. Absolutely. Somebody in the comments right now, thank goodness I can't see this. Somebody's going to spoil tonight's episode. I have to leave here in a few minutes because can't miss Try your hardest. It's not going to spoil it for me. Anyways, yeah, Jaya and I personally got told to sit down at the Spokane game because we were standing up. What? I'm going to stand right now again just thinking about it actually because of you.
00:38:35
Speaker
You know who you are. By by a white cap fan, I imagine. No, no. Wow. Wow. So, um, said, can you girls please sit
Fan Experiences and Atmosphere
00:38:44
Speaker
down? And we said, oh, actually, I'm here to watch soccer.
00:38:48
Speaker
And I don't do that sitting down. thank you. Yeah, we got asked to please sit down. Spokane was really fun atmosphere besides that. And we we got over And we continue stand up anyways. Sorry if we were in your way, but you should have stood up also.
00:39:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's fun. The vibes are going to be high. It's going to be great to be back in seat that remind me in Seattle. game so loud. Because my mom came to a Sounder game couple of years ago. And I remember she sat in the 100 level and and she said afterwards when we met up, like, you know I just, I just couldn't see for most of the game. And I'm like, Jackson put her in ECS. No, she was, I think she was ah just up from, ah just up from girl FC. and And I realized, and I realized afterwards, like I hadn't prefaced her with people are going to be standing the whole time. And I think that that is something like for, for your casuals. And i mean, I mean, yeah,
00:39:42
Speaker
there's a lot of casuals who want to go to Sounders games. And it's sort of like, now if you're, if you're down in the water, you need to be ready to stand the whole time. And that's kind of a culture thing that I think that, that the, the casuals need to understand. We do bring a lot of people to Sounders games and we have to preface it with like, we don't take this lightly. This is very serious to us because we're like, we're going be standing the entire time. We're going be screaming so loud. But that's what it makes it fun, right? us Afterwards. But yeah,
00:40:08
Speaker
it's the time of our lives yeah yeah exactly and nobody around us has moved their season tickets yeah if you have season tickets around us bless your heart for um dealing with our screaming yeah and you know what that just shows their passion as well so yeah they get it thank you Do we have other storylines that you need you need to hit on? Because I feel like you've you've had some stuff saved up. And I think as we're coming down on on this game, I need to get out of this funk. Like, I feel. I think that Snyder Brunel is about to be incredible. I think he's doing very good right now. But my prediction is that he is about to have... He's about to pull moves you've never even seen before. Inventing. He's going to be backflipping on the field or something and it's going to work.
00:40:54
Speaker
I was, ah you know, there was question as to if it was going to be his Sonny or Snyder starting. And I was thinking about that before this game. And I was like, I'm active. I think I'm actively Snyder on this, you know, versus just not like us but you know you know, there is something to, I think the veteran presence and the experience in a game like this, that a guy like Hassani would bring and Snyder, as much as we like what we've seen from him, he is 18 years old. He's never really been in a situation like this.
00:41:20
Speaker
So that can give you some hesitancy no matter how good a young player looks. so But I thought he was great. Yeah, no, he continue continues to do nothing to make me think that he can't be deployed in any any game, any situation, and they can trust him to hold it down and excel. so This game did miss Obed, though.
00:41:37
Speaker
Oh, I mean, may God rest his soul. But i miss him every day. Like, come on. we should we Let's give a quick mention to he he started. He started place mona in La Liga and played 90. And I didn't even see what happened. I still haven't seen the highlights or anything. But I saw a bunch of discourse among the Atletico fan base in the comments on their videos and stuff. And it was a lot of...
00:42:04
Speaker
wow, Vargas is actually good. So I was like, he must have done something. he yeah played that he played well. way they they They lost. They won today, though, guys. My bet that Atletico is going to win Champions League is hopefully going to pay off here, but like...
00:42:19
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he didn't play in the game, but it would be really funny if someone gets injured in the Champions League final and it's Letico and then, you know, he does it again comes back on and does it again. i mean mean, let's clarify the injury wouldn't be funny. No, the storyline. It was Johnny Cardoso. Okay, all right. we know We don't need to go after Johnny here. All right, Johnny's just ah he's just trying to make it out there in La Liga. But think about it. That's a twofer because then Christian Roldan will start in the World Cup.
00:42:49
Speaker
And Obed Vargas would play. so um Listen, I don't want Johnny to get hurt. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying if it were to happen... Is he not already injured? The storyline of... Oh, wait. he might yeah he like he was He was feeling fatigued is why he left camp. yeah He was tired. He had his nap. Oh, so he would he pulled the Hamas. No, Hamas didn't drink enough water.
00:43:10
Speaker
He's really dehydrated. Which will cause to be tired. Yeah. But that's, no, that's an aside. Anyway, got sidetracked there. Obed's doing great. Obed, we love you and we miss you every day. But, you know, I feel like Snyder, he's not as good as Obed yet, but he does think he has good potential. Yes, exactly. He's got the potential. No one ever be Obed, but I think that he is.
00:43:35
Speaker
He has his skill sets a lot a lot of similar attributes too. so All right. We got to hit this super chat here. now i literally said that I didn't want to have this discourse. And I said this was going to happen. Noah says the Sounders need Pepo. Okay. Well, that's true. I did say that. I think that is a fair takeaway from this game. It's a Pepo as an amorphous being.
00:43:54
Speaker
yeah
00:43:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's actually a situation where you can do your anti-pepo take and a pro-pepo take at the same time. I'm not anti-pepo. Because you can be like, the fact that he isn't playing this good. Ari ghost writes all of my takes. I hope you guys know that. I actually don't make any of this one. This is the one I didn't want to talk about. I actually have to dip out.
00:44:20
Speaker
Yeah, go watch your survivor. It's actually not even about that. It's some other things that I have to take a call right now. You have to take a call at 9 p.m. We're handling things on the fly, and I thank you for the opportunity. Nice to meet both. Jackson, where can people find you quickly? Jackson on radio on all my socials. What's going on at KJR? Well, you're going be on Sounders. You know what? Both of you. I'm going to call you in. Both you guys are going be on Sounders. I'm on it every week. You are, but I'm going to bring you, I'm going to bring you in. No, next week. You don't have a choice on this. Tuesday, next Tuesday, 8 PM. I'll be there. Sounders weekly, 93.3 FM. And then no radio broadcast for Conga Calf, but we'll all be in the stadium at Lumen next Wednesday night.
00:45:01
Speaker
So, and maybe we'll get him for another post game. Probably not. You know what? Why not? Or we can come on your post. i want to stay i will stay late next Wednesday and join you both. Let's go. There we go. you and you Jackson radio, everyone. Jackson Films. My friend. Thank you, man. You didn't you didn't introduce Ari as champion of fantasy today, though. This is once again, mls soccer dot com writer and editor, the host of Lobbing Scorchers and the fantasy football champion. ao loenwell That's right. That's right.
00:45:31
Speaker
I did help. Never gets old. Never gets old. All right. Let's hit this. Let's hit this super chat.
00:45:40
Speaker
J score says I'm increasingly concerned with our lack of any, of any offensive firepower. We cannot depend on just the Pauls, the lack of a legitimate star DP shows. So yeah, I mean, similar to what we were just talking about, it was kind of, it was kind of hard to,
00:45:58
Speaker
come out of this game and not feel like, man, maybe a De La Vega would have helped there. Anytime there's the the chance generation is pretty good, but you just can't finish like, and you have a star DP that's hurt as often as he's been hurt. It's hard for your mind not to go there.
00:46:13
Speaker
ah Were you feeling that with the the absence? that You got his jersey on. I always miss him, yeah.
De La Vega's Influence on the Game
00:46:20
Speaker
No, I think, yeah, like you guys were saying earlier, if there's if there's ever a moment where you're like, there's no way we can possibly score, this is all going terribly, yeah he will pull it off somehow from, like, somewhere you would never expect, I feel like. And I just...
00:46:36
Speaker
You know what he does that this this team doesn't have enough of right now is you know how he does that thing where when ah when there's a shot to be taken, he just runs onto the ball and just kicks the shit out of it just so hard. like I have never seen someone yeah yeah tackle a ball while running with it. He just, he kicks it so hard at the goal. And it oftentimes goes in. And it's just like, there was there was times tonight where I was like, man, someone just needs to kick the shit out of the ball as hard as Pedro always does. And maybe it'll go in. He's always mad at that ball. Yeah. I would hate to be a soccer ball around that guy. That would be...
00:47:15
Speaker
or Some days I feel i fear that like he's going to hear one of my TikToks and it's going to be my head is the soccer ball. And like, i would deserve that. I would deserve that. look for For a player that's kind of nor known as more like a finesse technical kind of guy. The power that he gets on his shots is unique. And this team could used that.
00:47:38
Speaker
Man, I just like didn't want to have this discourse. like I knew this is exactly... I said this to you as we were wrapping up was like, oh my god, we're going to have the number nine discourse again. going to have the we need attacking firepower discourse. I'm tired of it, guys. What discourse do you want to have?
00:47:55
Speaker
i want to have... want discourse about New Who. love New Who. I... You know...
00:48:06
Speaker
I think he's been playing lights out all season, honestly. think this was his worst game, and it wasn't even, like, his worst of his ever. He was he was sliding around. it was, like, a median game from last season for him. I really... Okay, maybe maybe people will say this is Cope, but I don't really know how much I blame him on that penalty. like I don't.
00:48:25
Speaker
Like, really... when i look at that i i try and think of it of a like what could he have done differently perspective and i don't know there's all that much he could have done there like exactly i think that if that was intentional then it was would have been a red because it got more definitely since i mean we couldn't really see what was going on at all but you know if it was cleats to ankle like that intentional which I don't know why he would have, it would have been red, but I do think he had his roughest game yet, but he has been having his best season. He had another kind of goal line type clearance. Yes, he did have an incredible clearance. And yeah, i just think knew who has stepped up something about being captain.
00:49:12
Speaker
really just copy like something switched a whole new yeah something switched in his brain something new that i saw this season was new who had some sort of like disappointed dad look on his face yeah he did okay well and that was i'll give him this incredible because you know before we used to see reed baker whiting trying to tell him to calm down yeah so i mean or tell him to use his head no it was the head it was this one yeah that was our favorite you know so that is that was my cover photo one it might still be my cover photo on twitter it is yeah yeah yeah we talked about he's finding self-disline that it is true rbw telling new who to use his head is the funnyest taught song i was all the year old came up to
00:49:56
Speaker
told me to use my head, i would be really thinking about things. And maybe that's what... That was the moment. That was his moment. Maybe that's why knew who is captain of Cameroon now. It's all things. It's all fake or whining. Thank you, Reid. I'm down to perpetuate that narrative. Reid, we know you watch. Yeah. We love you. ah Kenny's pointing out 42 opponent touches in our box. Not ideal. That's usual total from three-plus games. Yeah, it was not good how much they were in the box. Yeah, they were in our box.
00:50:23
Speaker
A lot. a lot a lot especially at the end all up in the box it was not good kenny also says are you guys laughing about back there nothing nothing kenny says uh cardoso called roldon his idol ball knower no it actually now he's hard so cardoso asked or cardoso asked for translator as well during one of the pressers uh us men's national team pressers and roldon was like nah i got you bro Oh, are they like boys? They're boys. Okay. Everyone loves Christian Robon. We don't have to hate on Cardoso now, though, because, you know, he's... Okay, you can. I've just been my agenda for a while, and, like, you know... yeah It's kind of your bit, yeah you have to stick to it.
00:51:04
Speaker
Ghost Trick says, thanks for being great, guys. Thank you for this super chat, I guess. No, thank you for giving us money. What the heck? Shout out Jaya's whole family for watching My group chat is blowing up right now. They're saying, Jaya's on Lobbick Scorchers. Shout out to her family. Shout out to my dad for letting me stream from his house last week.
00:51:27
Speaker
What else do we got? Should we take calls? ah Yeah, let's just just drop the link. We're going to drop the call. You guys can call in, I guess. We'll do we'll do this. ah I don't know how we're going to hear it, but just.
00:51:40
Speaker
oh It's OK. No, it was my bad. You're good. You're good. You're good. All right. I'm dropping the call link in chat. If you guys want to tap in, lay down your takes to zero deficit for the Seattle Sounders following leg one of the conky half champions cup quarterfinals.
00:51:56
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00:52:47
Speaker
All right, we got we got Tribe and we got James in the queue. All right, guys, in the queue, where we need to set up the tech here. So that's going to take a minute or two. Tribe, I know you're devastated. yeah You're itching for the discourse. So we'll get you in here as soon as we can. And then we got Gianni. All right, we got we got a – this is a murderer's row right here. This is a strong lineup. don't know. So –
00:53:14
Speaker
um We're about ready. We got a, we got the cable that we need and we got people in the queue. What should we what should we discourse on until, until then? What have we not talked about yet?
00:53:30
Speaker
Um, did we talk about Morris at all? Oh, let's talk about that. jordan Morris gets the start. What did you, uh, what did you think of how looked, how he played? Um, I think it makes sense that he gets the start. I just find myself wishing that he you know, i guess had, has had more time with this team because I think,
00:53:56
Speaker
It's just unfortunate that he hasn't been able to stay healthy because I do think Morris, once he gets on a tear, could great things with the current form of this I was a little nervous just because it seems like every time he comes back from an injury right now, he's immediately sent off for another six months, and I was worried for him, but it didn't happen.
00:54:18
Speaker
a Yeah, no, he looked, and since he's gotten back, he's not gotten re-injured, so that's good. And it is funny, like for all the time we spent talking about Osase versus Moose that, I mean, he's just very clearly the starter and the best option at that position. So at least we don't kind of really have to talk about it from that perspective anymore. And hopefully they can just get him going and get him producing.
00:54:44
Speaker
like the Jordan Morris of old, because that, I mean, you know, I know there, there is a lot of discourse going on right now about how the attack is weak. The offense hasn't been performing lately. they haven't been scored enough goals. They got shut out tonight, all that, which is all it is, i mean, it's true. They haven't been scoring enough lately and they didn't score tonight.
00:55:04
Speaker
But ah if you get Jordan Morris rolling, that's going to help a lot with that to state the obvious. It looks like we got the speaker set up over there. So can we bring, all right, going to try and bring in Tribe. Is that? Yep. All right, Tribe, going to bring you to the stage right now. The tech is untested here, so we're going to see if this works. But you are on the stage right now. Tribe, can you hear me?
00:55:23
Speaker
Yeah, I can hear you. Oh, nice. We got you through the speaker.
Disappointment in Performance and Player Impact
00:55:27
Speaker
Let's go. ah All right. Wait, I'm going to make this. Okay. We're not going to do that because that takes me out of the screen. Oh, we're not going to. boy. This is a disaster. There we go. ah Tribe, talk to me. Two zero deficit after leg one. Are you, are you crashing out? you think the series is over or you feel like he is still possible here?
00:55:46
Speaker
Yeah, it's absolutely over if we can't fucking score a tap-in or build up from the back with more than three touches. It's absolutely pathetic. Albert Rusnak played like shit. Jordan Morris couldn't do anything on the wings. He couldn't take anyone on 1v1, which is why I think we should have had Manungu still, because he that that had Manungu written all over it in the in the second half. um The defense was absolutely bend but not break in the second half, but just these little errors that happen. I don't blame the defense as much. We've had incredible opportunities that we should have capitalized on. We should have had probably two goals. De La Vega would have scored the goal that Rothrock missed when it was a dummy from, uh,
00:56:28
Speaker
what's what's his name? Reagan. I hadn't even thought about that chance from that perspective. That's good. That's good discourse in tribe. That's good. yeah That's good. That was De La Vega written all over. He did it against the, uh, LA. No, he did against Cruz Azul. Yeah. He hits those. Yeah. famous Um, so we are also, ah being robbed of designated player money, ah by Jordan Morris, who is absolutely nowhere near a designated player, uh, quality, uh,
00:56:55
Speaker
in the past two ah years. He's a great striker, not as a designated player. We don't have any designated players are actually playing like designated players. And the rest of the squad is just suffering from it. And you can see it away in Mexico now.
00:57:09
Speaker
All right, so Tribe has crashed out. our wait so So were you saying that you think the series is over? or Yeah, I'm going to play like that again. Absolutely, it's over. But do you think they are going to play like that at home? You got the trip home. You don't have a game on the weekend. Maybe some time to recharge. You score one goal, could get back in it. We're going to do like what we did in the Leagues Cup when we played Monterey at home. We're going to score two. We're going to look like we're going to win it. And then all sudden, something stupid is going to happen. And then we're going to crash out and just die.
00:57:39
Speaker
that's that's what's gonna happen all right all right well tribes not feeling very good tribe did you have ah do you have anything else you wanted to uh riff on i'm glad you got the georgie taken i knew someone was gonna have to say it so i'm glad you said it uh but uh anything else you wanted to cook on on this game or leg two coming up here no I just had to get that out. You're just you're feeling fried.
00:58:03
Speaker
You feel like you're cooked. Yeah. We'll keep running, Ali, on what you all think. Fried or what's the good way to put this? Fried or... Perfectly cooked.
00:58:17
Speaker
No? I don't know. We'll help golden golden golden. All right. We're going to do some pride or golden. Uh, tribe. Thank you for calling in great stuff as always, man. We'll catch you on, uh, after like two. Bye. Bye. I always feel scared when Tribe calls in and it's bad loss. I'm like... That was a little scary. I hope he's okay. We got James, we got Gianni, and then we got Timbo. Let's get him in here. Let's get this Roosnack discourse going. James, you're on stage right now.
00:58:51
Speaker
What's up, man? 2-0 deficit after leg one. Do you think that ah this is over? Is it chalked? Is it fried? Or are they golden? Is the comeback on? ah I don't think it's cooked. Uh, you know, anything can happen. Uh, you know, I thought in, in, uh, 2000, uh, 2022, you know, we probably all thought we were cooked against Pumas when we went down to nil and then they gave up two very stupid penalties. So, uh, anything can happen.
00:59:17
Speaker
Great point. Um, but, uh, you know, and I didn't think the first half was that bad. Uh, it was boring, uh, but it wasn't horrendous or anything like that. Boring is good in a game like this for the road team.
00:59:30
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But then in the second half, uh, you know, I think we were just outclassed, um, physically, like Jackson said, there were a couple there, were there was one where their, uh, their blonde head st striker was, was pushing Alex back. And it it looked like me going against my 10 year old niece or something.
00:59:50
Speaker
Um, I would never do that to her. Sorry, Mia. Um, uh, But, i you know, with the there's there's just a structural imbalance between Liga MX and ah MLS.
01:00:05
Speaker
i Liga MX can spend more money on salaries. They don't have the cap, and they can spend more money on transfers. and And MLS has a ah few mechanisms that you can use to try to equalize that. It's the DP, and it's the U22s.
01:00:18
Speaker
And so when LAFC has their game in Champions League, they got a goal from Son, and they get a couple goals from Martinez. They're And we just don't have those mechanisms in place.
01:00:31
Speaker
um I'm getting a little frustrated with Schmetzer. I love Brian. I don't think we can do any better. So I'm certainly not Schmetzer out. But I think that Jesus should have started that at the 10.
01:00:44
Speaker
I don't think that Morris should have started. I think, at least for the time being, Morris should be used as an impact sub where he can use his pace a little bit more against tired legs. And i'm I'm sort of frustrated that those guys are still starting because I did not think, I thought Raul was was putting up more certainly than Rusnak when Raul got benched.
01:01:07
Speaker
And we've got a good option in Jesus Ferreira. So I don't know why Schmetzer is continuing with that. And I thought he was late with the subs. By the end of the second half, we just looked absolutely exhausted.
01:01:18
Speaker
So what what what did you think of the double Paul situation? Would you have gone Jesus at the at the 10 with the double Pauls or how would you and then ah and then who would you have lined up up top?
Suggestions for Alternative Strategies
01:01:30
Speaker
Yeah, I would have gone with ah with Pauls on the wings. Jesus at the number 10. And probably, probably Musavsky as the number nine. You know, I think he didn't play at all. And Schmetz was brought Osaze on. And I was thinking about, you know, like why, why he went that way with it. And I think Osaze's profile of like the more like physical hold up play oriented striker.
01:01:58
Speaker
would seem to lend itself to a CONCACAF road match more than a striker of Moose's skill set. But Moose also does put the goddamn ball in the goal. Sometimes. More than any other striker.
01:02:13
Speaker
And when he misses, Pauly's there to clean it up. So... We were talking about this a little bit, though. there there were There were two games in a row where Musavsky missed and you could see him just go, oh man. And then Paulie was there to tap it in. So, you know, that hey that's a play that's been working for us.
01:02:29
Speaker
I mean, Paul almost had that anyway. It almost worked again. But but also um you have you have Morris getting Paul an assist on the Houston goal. And that's a basically him just not connecting on a header, but like sending it to the back post.
01:02:47
Speaker
So I think Paul, Paul, Paul is just cleanup patrol. i think he's He's the trash man. I think Jordan should get a little more. It's a talent being is a ghost in there is a talent. Yeah. Yeah. And he almost, man, like that's the thing. If he gets one off that tonight, we're feeling so much better.
01:03:04
Speaker
We're feeling so much better. That game might've ended one, one. He gets that dude. I don't know. That's what it might have ended one, one, but, but it could have ended at four or five nil. I mean, apart from just the penalty, if, if Tigris dial in their crosses, we're in trouble because they had a number of good crossing opportunities that they just launched a penalty on frame.
01:03:27
Speaker
That's three nil. Yeah. But I mean, their crossing was, you know, some of their corners probably ended up in Seattle. So if they get that dialed in, that could be a problem. You know, it's, it's going to be a lot of, it's going to be a lot of CONCACAF shithousery the return leg.
01:03:43
Speaker
um And I think, you know, maybe, maybe you start D-Row in that one just because you need the physicality and you bring in Morris late. And I think you have to start Jesus in that. I mean, he's going to work harder.
01:03:56
Speaker
He's going to run more and he's put up more assists this year. So, you know, I mean, the bottom line Whatever you think of Rusnak, he has not been good this season.
01:04:06
Speaker
I think he turns 32 this year. You know, his contract is up. He's not the future. You know, you've got Jesus, who you've got under contract for three more years after this. That's the guy you got to start building around. And there's no time like the present.
01:04:20
Speaker
I mean, I do agree with that. Like, I'm not, you know, my opinion. The cops are coming to get you because you just made a fire point. um i i I'm not anti-Rosanac, obviously. You know my takes on it. But I agree with you that Jesus is the future after...
01:04:37
Speaker
after Rusnak, and it it does make sense to start that transition. But you also still do have Rusnak, who has, in my opinion, been producing this. Maybe hasn't been... It's not even a maybe. This hasn't been the best start to the season for him. i think we've all noticed that. But I still don't think he's not serviceable. I think you're right that... I mean, I start Jesus in this game. I start him on the wing with Rusnak, though. So I think there's a little different take there, but it's...
Why Wasn't Jesus Featured More Prominently?
01:05:07
Speaker
I don't know. I think I'm more just shocked, aside from the Brzezak piece, that Jesus was not featured in this game more. Nico is clearly very upset about that. You want to hear Nico followed up the text messages. He sent like five more, and I think you'll appreciate it. He said...
01:05:22
Speaker
ah This is CONCACAF. Are you kidding me? Brian has been selling us on a double tens for how long to pull the plug on it now? What player has it been bigger in any of these games? Jesus has played in a goddamn World Cup. All right, I'm done. I appreciate you for reading them. Thoughts? Thoughts?
01:05:38
Speaker
Hi, Nico.
01:05:41
Speaker
go I mean, it's true. The double tens thing is the whole bit of like, and Paul Areola is not playing at the 10. He's not tucking in and playing at at the 10. He's playing more like a winger. Paul Rothrock's playing more like a winger.
01:05:53
Speaker
Paul Rothrock is at that 10. So you know who was playing that position? The double 10. Kalani Kosarianzi. Kalani Kosarianzi was playing the second 10. the The best double 10 last year was the three nil over Nashville when it was Jesus Ferreira and Pedro de la Vega. And obviously that's not an option. yeah That was, but we tried it. appear we We tried the double 10 a few times with Rusnak and Ferreira and it wasn't that good.
01:06:17
Speaker
It's true, but they, I think he means so. Brian insists that the right side winger is essentially a secondary 10. So it's a pocket player more than a pure winger. Yeah.
01:06:30
Speaker
So I think that's mainly what Nico is referencing. But yeah, any final thoughts?
Backup Left Back Concerns
01:06:35
Speaker
We've got some other comments. I would like us to have a backup left back.
01:06:42
Speaker
ah Kingston got got bodied a little bit out there. But I mean, it's not he's it's not his position. that's That's nothing against him. I don't know that selling your only backup left back for is...
01:06:56
Speaker
was a particularly wise choice. So hopefully that will be You know my twenty number feelings on this, James. I was thinking that like when there was a period of time where it's like, oh, New Who might get sent off here. Okay, what are they going to do? in in this Legitimately, did you watch you watch that Nashville Club America game?
01:07:15
Speaker
No. no it will Okay, well, I would say Reed looked good. Reed looked good. so He has been playing well. He's kept a few clean sheets with them this year. Yeah, no. RBW stocks go I mean, the move made sense for him because their left back is like 35. So there's a much clearer path for him to to to get a first team space than there was here with New Who, who's not even 30. So it was a smart move for him, but we got to get something there. So, but thank you very much for having me. Hello to your guests.
01:07:45
Speaker
And I hope you all have a great evening. Thanks, James. Bye, James. Take care. Okay, before we jump in. New Who defense. We have two New defenders here. We love New Who. Go on the New defense. Yeah, do the New Who. Before we continue. I've been known as a defender too, guess. No, I feel like I've already been on the New Who defense tonight, but I do think that we need a backup because it's not realistic for him to play every single game, and that's what he has been doing.
01:08:13
Speaker
Yeah. No, it is true. There is kind of no back. I mean, I guess Pete. i guess We love Cody Baker. cody baker yeah We love Cody Baker. But he also realistically has not gotten many first team minutes. And so to just rely on Cody Baker to be our backup when, you know, i think yeah we're playing this many games is...
01:08:35
Speaker
I think he needs a backup, but there's also never been a backup for him that I've really wanted in a game more than him. I don't know if that's ever. like But they do need to have someone because... I don't mind the Cody Baker idea. Yeah. But he they had been kind of... it felt like playing him straight. You have Cody Phoenix in MLS Next Pro. that's ah I'm looking at the... They have a guy named Cody Phoenix?
01:08:57
Speaker
Yeah, he's an MLS Next Pro. But I'm looking at the Sounder, great great place to subscribe to. The depth chart on Sounder at Heart lists at number six for left back wing back Cody Phoenix. C-O-D-E-Y. I'm down to call Cody Phoenix up for the name. That's our option is the sixth.
01:09:15
Speaker
Well, yeah, you have Paul Areola, who they probably should be playing back there. i i I had that agenda. I had that agenda in the preseason. That's my take. I think we solved it. I know. we i think We've been talking for this long, and we just now solved it. all This is a short. We've only got an hour. This a short postgame for us. We got Gianni, then we got Timbo, then we got Alejandro. Let's get Gianni in here.
Offensive Capabilities and Goals Needed
01:09:39
Speaker
Gianni, you are on the stage right now. Can you hear me? Yeah, can hear you. Okay, we got you as well. Okay, 2-0 deficit after leg one of the CCC quarters. How are you feeling? You think this is chalked? Is it over? Is it cooked? Or is the comeback on when this thing gets back to Seattle?
01:09:55
Speaker
It's not fully cooked, but it's damn near close. um Yeah, I mean, you guys have already kind of harped on it a bit, but our off offensive ah our offense has just not been really there. Yeah.
01:10:07
Speaker
we've scored what six goals, six league goals this year. Yeah. I swear to God, I will come through this computer. um But so you're asking us to score a third of our league goals in this next leg against a team where, I mean, yes, we did have a couple of good opportunities, but you're not going to put them all away.
01:10:29
Speaker
um We had the very clear cut chance with Paul from the Jordan pass. That was, It was a fine, it was a fine pass, but, um, just putting that directly at the keeper is not what you gotta do there.
01:10:45
Speaker
And then you've got the other Paul on the back post run. Those are our two best chances of the night. And both of those didn't go in. So it's like, You've heard Albert say this before.
01:10:56
Speaker
You have to take your chances when they come. And this team just didn't do that. So, yeah, I am not feeling. It does feel like with the offense right now, it's a little like, all right, you're going to have Paul Rothrock crash in the back post. If that doesn't work, what do we got? It's the same thing. It's the same. It's been working. That's kind of the same thing every time. But like, if that doesn't work, what do you go to? But I will say so like six league goals. Yeah, that's that hasn't been very good. But the way I've been coping and rationalizing with that is it's like they put five on. It has been the roadshow. And I think you can you can rationalize the one zeros that they've been grinding when you're playing on the road this much. But then also, yeah, like they do have five goals. I'm sorry, this Whitecaps, I'm going to be honest, that team is much better than this Tigres team. The difference is... said that and I got fried in the comments.
Are Whitecaps Stronger than Tigres?
01:11:51
Speaker
Fuck them, man. The difference is that we were playing in Mexico on short rest in a very hot and humid climate, and the game got away from us in the second half.
01:12:01
Speaker
I think that's the difference. Because if you look at the first half of this game... it didn't feel It didn't feel like we we were. It felt pretty even. It fine. It felt fine. So I'm like, I don't know. I'm not i'm not ready to completely like cross out the the that we have some like attacking woes just yet. we made We made Whitecaps team that, and by all accounts, is one of the best in MLS look like nobody. You got five goals on them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got five goals, but you have to remember, we were already up on aggregate in that second game. They had to come out and play.
01:12:37
Speaker
These guys are not going to come out. No, they're not. And they're going to, they're going to try and get a goal. za option Yeah. And you know what? They're going they can catch us on a counter and yeah they almost got us a couple of times tonight. So they put one, they put one of those away and we are fucked. yeah They have to be perfect on defense. That's why this getting that road goal is so important. why yeah you're it really it The margin for error in this. yeah so i mean like that's That's kind of where I'm coming from this. I was like, yeah, sure, we can score two goals, but what are we going to have to do to get those two
Should Andrew Thomas Replace Stefan Fry?
01:13:11
Speaker
goals? And those things are going to open us up defensively.
01:13:14
Speaker
And that makes it more likely than not that they're going to get some good opportunities. And if one of those sneaks in, That's it. And then if we're going to go with that, we cannot have Fry start the next game.
01:13:29
Speaker
I am here. Cook here. Fucking over it. Okay. I like that. I didn't think I was going to get as heated about this as I am, but Was it the one where he stood like this and it hit the post? Was that was that well that was that was the one? That was the straw that broke the camel's back. It was actually on the first goal.
01:13:48
Speaker
So, yes, it was a well-taken shot. The problem is if you go back and watch the replay, Fry drops to his knee to cover the near post and reaches one hand up before the shot is taken.
01:14:02
Speaker
Yeah. He's doing that because he doesn't have the reaction time to do it. If that ball goes near post, Andrew Thomas has that reaction time. he He's also one rushing the the player as well. And probably just to take it to the front. I was like, he's just going to take it.
01:14:19
Speaker
Too immobile and too weak on too many of these balls. That, uh, there was one that he actually did get his hand to that he pushed away. The problem is he pushed it right back to the fucking middle of the goal.
01:14:34
Speaker
And then what did he do? He sprawled down to the ground and was would have been taken out of every single play that would have happened on a shot. And there were Tigre's players there.
01:14:47
Speaker
Like, that is, you can't be doing this against top level ah like top level opponents. You just can't. I agree. i didn't I thought it was a bad performance by him. i I don't think it was a devastating performance, but I don't think that it inspired any kind of confidence. I think you have Andrew Thomas in there. you can i mean, it's a you know we can look back and say, well, if you put Andrew Thomas in that position. But I really do think on that first goal, Andrew Thomas has a 10 times better chance of saving that than Stefan Fry does. That said, Fry did make a couple of nice saves where he was just...
01:15:21
Speaker
in the right position. And that is one of those things where he is a veteran. And I think the secondary thing to that, when I came into this game, I was like, man, I really wish Andrew Thomas was playing, but I do like the idea of having Stefan Fry on the back line to be able to calm down the defense. That's the only thing that I think he has over Andrew Thomas right now. Andrew Thomas is amazing at his job, but I just don't think he has that same presence that Stefan Fry does when a game gets a little hectic.
01:15:50
Speaker
to kind of settle his his defensive unit. But that said, how are you going to get that with without playing him? Kind of, but I mean, also, we were put under it in that San Jose game.
01:16:01
Speaker
He kept it to zeroes. We were put under it in Vancouver. Again, in Vancouver, in leg two. we We got through that. Like, yes, Andrew Thomas is a less experienced goalkeeper, but I don't think that makes him any less able to...
01:16:16
Speaker
control his defensive line if anything like he is a monster like you can you see him screaming you see the veins bulging on his neck he's bossing around that back line like i still think of oh i forget what game it was but he's screaming and like there is a the picture taken of him his mouth just wide open he's looking like the fucking predator i was like yeah that is gonna be a pro
01:16:42
Speaker
Nobody puts his life on the line like Thomas. And I think that might be the difference. Yeah. And for as much as we talk about the distribution out of the back by Frye, and yes, he was, he was doing well with some of the short passing. Those long balls went to fucking no one.
01:16:57
Speaker
We were able to collect some of the second balls, but those, those long balls, they was launching from the goal kicks. They were, they were just getting bounced right back into the midfield by the Tigres defenders.
01:17:09
Speaker
I thought they're fucking useless. Schmetz did say that ah that this is Steph Fry's tournament, so I don't think there's any like... Okay, so why why are we giving Steph Fry CCC when if we're doing the if we're trying to reverse the roles of Thomas and Fry from last year?
01:17:28
Speaker
If you want to do that, go kick Fry down to Open Cup. He can go play with Defiance. He can take Leagues Cup. but Why are you giving him the most important tournament? That's true.
01:17:38
Speaker
Yeah. That's a good take. Last year. He's kind of cooking. Last year they let Andrew, they had Andrew Thomas do leagues cup. And that was the whole, like, you know, Steph fries. He was like, Oh, he's going to prove himself. He's going to prove himself. yeah And then they did. Oh, we got two ones, but I don't trust our starting goalkeeper to take CCC.
01:17:56
Speaker
Yeah, well, last year, Steph was the number one, so he took the league games and he took CCC. And Andrew Thomas was the number two, so he took League's Cup. And Open and o thomas is theno cut and open Cup. This year, Andrew Thomas is the number one. He's starting the league games, but he's not starting CCC.
01:18:14
Speaker
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like, what are we doing here? Like, this is... There's not, like, a system to that. I think they're two very separate players, and I think that you have to remember all Fry has done for us, and if you just shove him down to defiance... No, I'm saying defiance just for league stuff. Not, like, actual defiance defiance level.
01:18:33
Speaker
But he is our second goalkeeper. He is our second goalkeeper, but I also think that like- I do think Frye is being a little too sentimental about this.
01:18:44
Speaker
I know, but you can't, like this is, we're playing for pros here. We can't be sentimental about this. No, there's an argument to what you're saying. I think Schmetz is trying with his, I have two ones thing. He's trying to like, Schmetz agrees. He's trying to be able to have the sentimentality and the respect thing while also being like, Andrew Thomas is my starter. Yeah, it's a cake needed to. But also, he's not saying Andrew Thomas is his starter because he refuses to do that. He's like, I have two starters, by the way. No, I don't have a starter. It bothers me. Just fucking say Andrew Thomas is your starter. Have some goddamn respect for the future U.S. Men's National Team goalkeeper. Absolutely. Get him on that USMT.
01:19:25
Speaker
It bothers me how much Mets enjoy saying that he has two number ones. Like, you know, if you're going to give that quote, give that quote, but you don't need to be all. ah He's just getting way too cute with it.
01:19:37
Speaker
I mean, it reminds me of what happened when Nico, he played him until he just, he absolutely couldn't. He did it with Raul. He played it until he absolutely couldn't. Like we, I get that these are players that have been with us. There is history there, but at after a certain point, you just have to rip that fucking bandaid off and it is time.
Loyalty vs Development: Team Performance Impact
01:19:55
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that's a hard thing to do, but I know i see i definitely see what you're saying. But, at the i you know, also there's another part of me that's like, feel like Fry's been actually playing pretty well this year. i didn't think he was so bad tonight that it was like his fault that they'd got to Ode. But all like, I know he made it that, I know that Correa missed the penalty, so it didn't matter, but it's like, man, who do you want in there for that?
01:20:19
Speaker
Absolutely. And if this thing does end up, if we take this 2-0,
01:20:26
Speaker
at Zentralink, we're gonna go to PKs. What are we gonna do then? Well, you sent Andrew Thomas in at that point. Yeah, i know, but you're gonna bring him in cold? Okay, so what's the point of not even playing him then? Yeah. it's What are we doing?
01:20:42
Speaker
Yeah, yeah yeah there's there's definitely a point there. There's a point there's a point being made that's good there. Gianni, I got Timbo in the queue after you, but you got anything, any last thoughts on either this game or leg two coming up, the vibes, how you're feeling about a potential comeback?
01:20:57
Speaker
I mean, Russ Dech needs to figure this shit out. Like, this is just, I know that this has been harped on, and I know that he has done well in the past, but this was rough.
01:21:09
Speaker
um He killed our transitions. He actually gave he ah was the turnover that led to the throw-in that led to the first goal.
01:21:21
Speaker
And that was fucking insane. Like I was losing it. In the first half, Rusnak was in the middle of the field, walking towards New Who while New Who had the ball, waiting for someone to come and give him an option, which ended up the ball, which ended with the ball recycling backwards.
Albert Rusnak's Role in Offensive Plays
01:21:39
Speaker
It's just like, he has like, and I know like people hate on him and I'm not a Rusnak hater.
01:21:48
Speaker
No, you're not you're you're not a hater. I try i try and be like objective on it, but this it's getting to a point where it's like he needs to either start putting up or we need to start figuring out a way to play without him.
01:22:04
Speaker
Wow, the LA Galaxy have scored a goal to make it 3-2. So they have... Wait, is that game in ah at Toluca? Wow. It has to be. so the yeah are we do we really Are we getting outshown by the fucking Galaxy? They have two road goals. They have two road goals at Toluca. That's tough. That's tough to take.
01:22:26
Speaker
Wait, who scored them? is it Marco Reus just scored one, and Gabrielle Peck scored another. they were down their dp it was literally down Oh, I'm sorry. What minute is it?
01:22:38
Speaker
It is the 80th minute. Oh, okay. Wow, well... I know people were were saying Toluca's low-key not good, but... Isn't Toluca leading Liga MX right now? Yeah, but people have said they're a little fraudulent. They are. All right.
01:22:54
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know. Listen, we got a bunch more callers. Yeah, absolutely. But thank you for the... You know what I know. We love you. Thank you, Gianni. I'll catch guys later. Have good time. All right, we got Timbo, we got Alejandro, and then we got Hunch. Let's get Timbo in here. get him going quicker. We'll get him going quicker. Timbo, what's up?
01:23:16
Speaker
How you guys doing tonight? oh You know, not all. Been better. yeah i they didn't I've been better. i'm I'm not. I wouldn't say. I've actually. I've degraded as we've taken more calls. I was feeling fine. and I'm coming down. I'm coming on the upswing. How are you? How are you, Tim? What do you think? I think this was ah one of the rougher losses this year. I mean, I would argue probably the rough the roughest of them, right? There's only been two, so.
01:23:40
Speaker
I mean, and but that's the thing. Like, we've had pretty good run on the away, and now we're kind of coming to the end of an away trip that is not turning out our way. <unk> really lucky to not come back with, you know, a three nil or a 4-0 aggregate kind of based on the fact that we got almost got conca-caffed at the end of that first half. I definitely felt like we were, ah this is conca-caff. Like, oh, I cry enough to get a penalty.
01:24:05
Speaker
um That was annoying. That was annoying. He's going down and making a big show of it to try and get the penalty, and of course they give it to him. I think we saw a bit of that out of Roldan, and I think I saw Paul Areola get knocked over and try to kind of like, hey, that was really... True. Hard worthy foul. I definitely think this game was one of the most aggressive games for a team that we played against. The Sounders got played off the field for the most part. I think we got worked. I would have loved to see Peter Kingston stand up to who is it? Who was it? Was it Giniak? It was Giniak, yeah. But just get a bigger guy to come out after you, dude, you got a contract now. You're a pro.
01:24:46
Speaker
Go after it, dude. like Let him throw a punch. let's hold your You're saying that after they got into it, he should ah but he should have gone after Gignac more? i think Well, I was just going to say, it looked like Gignac was coming over about to slug him, and he was like, oh, okay. Yeah.
01:25:03
Speaker
Imagine you're Pete Kingston. yeah This is your, like, it's like your first game with the first team ever. You just signed your first team contract. You know, you're feeling pretty good. You get out there in a CONCACAF Champions Cup game, and you have 46-year-old Andre Pierre Gignac just s charging at you, snarling. That must have been the experience of a lifetime for Pete.
01:25:27
Speaker
I mean, the good news is we get another leg with them at home. And I really hope ah Pete thinks about news on it for the next week, and comes back out. Pete's now going to, he has to watch his back in like, to Pete Kingston versus Jin yak boxing celebrity boxing match. Lumen field next Wednesday.
01:25:47
Speaker
Yeah, I know. zoom i also know who's winning late, late night. and Hey, couple things. um First, like I got, I got two redactions. We talked last time about Morris and was not clear about him having the assist. Clearly got it clearly adds to the team in that regard.
01:26:06
Speaker
I didn't see that so much tonight. I think he had some good looks, but we're still kind of waiting for that production from our DP, from the leading scorer of the team, right? Yeah. You know, if if we're go to win this series, it's going to come from Morris. and some you know I don't think Brian's going to not start Morris next week. It just doesn't make sense.
01:26:26
Speaker
no No chance. zero without an injury Without an injury, right? Which could happen, but I just i don't see it. So Morris at this point, it's it's his to-go score. I mean, we're going to get some help from Paul.
01:26:38
Speaker
We're going to get some help from Jesus. Like there's going to other opportunities, but I really think a brace for Morris will carry the Sounders through this round. Yeah, give me a brace for Morris. One of the strikers needs to start scoring goals. like I think you're right, though. I don't care who it is.
01:26:56
Speaker
There's three of them that play. Guys, I'll take... What's your take on Moose not getting the start tonight? So my take on Moose not getting the start tonight is that Jordan was always going to get the start if he was healthy enough. And in these circumstances, CONCACAF game on the road at Tigris, crazy environment, crazy travel. It's a lot more important to have forward player who is good in possession good hold up play is has good work rate pressing all that stuff all that stuff that uh jordan and osaze do that moose doesn't bring as much like i think that's why they were the ones who were playing in a game like this whereas moose moose is like if you need someone to uh run around in the box and get in the perfect spot and score a goal like yeah he'll be great for that
01:27:47
Speaker
but like not bring as much of the well-rounded skillset that you get from a Jordan or no Sazay, which is why I wasn't surprised to see Osaay sub in. But, you know, I think there's another side of that too, where it's like, yeah, but Moose scores, he scores goals.
01:28:01
Speaker
And the other two guys, you know, haven't done that. ah I'll put ah this out there too. We definitely were not on that side of the field to score goals. It was definitely, i think Tigris had our our number in possession. and I know, I know there's,
01:28:17
Speaker
I totally agree with Gianni on almost all of his takes, but the not having Fry in goal doesn't make sense. Like it's already been called that way. I think we we could change it right now and put Thomas in at the home game, but you might as well get ready for Fry to retire.
01:28:33
Speaker
And for a guy who's, you know, I'll argue Thomas won that Leagues Cup last year. But every trophy in the last 10 years prior to that is on Fry's back for the most part. Both MLS Cups been the last CONCACAF. Thank you. I appreciate that.
01:28:51
Speaker
Thank you. you know it's it's It's really strange so soon after Easter to have you know folks blasphemy and Fry saves. Fry Saves. So true. So I would at least for, I mean, if this, if this is his last, if this is the swan song for Fry, then let, let him have it win or lose.
01:29:11
Speaker
um 23 shots tonight, four shots on goal, three saves. like They were peppering, and granted, it wasn't all on goal, or it sounds like. It's a lot. 23 shots. i they're so yeah They were not good at finishing. ah They need to do some finishing training. They only went two 23. What a terrible average. Terrible ratio. yeah In some of that, I think it's clearly fried. It was an own goal. so They had really one for four.
01:29:39
Speaker
It's technically an own goal. Timbo, how are you feeling about leg two? Like, do you think that the comeback? Yeah. And last thing, because we want to keep, we want to keep. I'll remind folks that we've beaten Tigres on our our own field before 2012.
01:29:54
Speaker
think 2012, 2013.
01:29:58
Speaker
Right. Jimmy Traherty. Right. It was it was we were i think we were down a goal and then we so or maybe it was one one, but we scored two. DeAndre conceded a really bad. He got he got his ass beat and then it was two two. It was two nil. And then yeah.
01:30:13
Speaker
i think this is a a real big test for the sounders and one that we don't want to concede a goal to them in lumen they just once that happens we can call it it we call it a day yeah but i think moreover you can do all that but we don't do anything if it's a nil no they still win so like your dps your your nines are gonna have to come out and score some goals yeah what better place to do it than lumen on a wednesday night
Positive Outlook on Road Performance
01:30:37
Speaker
Amen to that. That's what I've been saying. amen to That's what I've been saying. I am so excited to actually go to a game at Lumen Field. I feel like it's been like two months. Get me that free copy. I'm going to be like shaking in the press box. The roadshow was fun, but I'm done with this. like i'm ready to see back games I'm ready to be back home. Get us back to the clown show that is Lumen Field. And guys, let me tell you, I pissed off a lot of Seahawks fans about talking about Lumen Field, but that'll be for the podcast. That's, you know, yeah two million views is on their heads. So good job.
01:31:05
Speaker
I was going to ask real quick on the Seahawks front, how do you feel about the crow's nest being no longer? yeah we can't get into this right now. We can't get into this right now. I got canceled on Twitter for this. You got canceled. Timbo, great stuff as always, man. Appreciate you. Good to see you, boys. Bye.
01:31:22
Speaker
All right. We got Alejandro. We got Hunch. And then we got Jesus. And then kind of low-key, no one else to tap in after that because where right where we'll probably go around two hours. We're at an hour and a half. But let's ah let's get Alejandro on the stage. There he is right now. Alejandro, can you hear us?
01:31:40
Speaker
Hey, good evening, guys. I can hear you. Okay, we got you as well. Is that a rain jacket? That looks sick. Yeah, what are we wearing here? Hey, thanks. Yeah, it is a rain jacket. Nice. We're like all squinting at Ari's laptop screen that's like this big. 2-0 deficit in the CONCACAF Champions Cup quarterfinals. Leg two at Lumen Field coming up. How are you feeling? are you Are you crashing out? Is the series over? Or do you think the comeback is still on in the home leg?
01:32:08
Speaker
I'm going to do a couple of Contra takes here and I'm going to say I'm feeling more golden than many of our previous viewers. And i'm just going to say like they have the, the Sounders been on the road for how many games now they have just gone to Houston in a humid, like pouring rain game. And then they have to travel all the way to Mexico and I feel like a lot of the narrative I've been hearing all week is this is this celebration of this stadium and this this home crowd at this at this opposing at the opposing stadium. And like all things considered, I think they played pretty well, right? Like they didn't...
01:32:59
Speaker
They gave up a pretty soft penalty, they gave up a pretty soft squeaker, and then they gave up a goal on a set piece. that's not That's not terrible. Definitely wasn't They didn't get FC Cincinnati. Exactly. They didn't get Cincinnati. It wasn't, like, disgraceful or embarrassing. with And that crowd was silent for, like, 30 minutes in the first half. As you said that, Alejandro, i was thinking of it, like, it was it was not nearly as lit in there ah tonight as it was for the Cincy game. Like, so I think there is there is something to that. Like, they managed to weather that better than most teams probably would have.
01:33:33
Speaker
Yeah, and I'll add, too, like... it's not like the sounders didn't have their own good chances either right there was the there's the giveaway that uh rosnack and morris almost turned into a goal which should have been there was oh yeah with the heavy touch yeah there's the there's almost rothrock goal the rothrock you know that was such a good chance And I'm not saying like the Sounders should have won. And i think you could definitely say maybe the that Tigres should have like a four or a five goal performance. But I also think you could have had a one or a two rolled goal performance from the Sounders too. and Yeah.
01:34:18
Speaker
That's why I don't see much value in doing the whole like, well, you know, if you think about it, Tigris could have or should have had four or five because they had this chance, this chance, and this chance that could have gone in. But it's like, all right, well, you know, Rothrock had the one that could have gone in. There was another one. Rothrock had another that was pretty close to going in. And then there was at least one or two. So you could be like, all right, well, then if you just guaranteed give Tigris all of their their five, um then you would have to. But don't you also have to guarantee give Seattle their like two or three in that?
01:34:47
Speaker
I feel like if you start down that road, you can also just say anything. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, man. That's why guys, you know, it's crazy soccer. It's a game of chances yeah and you never know what's going to happen.
01:34:59
Speaker
And I just feel like the fact that the Sounders didn't put away their chances in this game, like, I just, I don't know. I just feel like the the length of the the road trip for how long it's been, like, maybe I'm just providing excuses, but if you are from home, we're down. We cope and we rationalize. So this is good. This is good. yeah When you've been away from home for that long, like, your sharpness is going to suffer. And then the other contra take that i'll i will I will give here is a defense of our DP, Albert Rusnak. Let's go. Let me just say, I'm not going to come in here and say that he had a great game. that's
01:35:39
Speaker
i don't I don't think that's true. But I feel like the thing that people find frustrating about his game, and I think the thing that, and the frustration that I feel with him sometimes too,
01:35:52
Speaker
is his style of play. And especially when the, the fans are so used to seeing Ladero out there doing his game where he is dropping back further than the center backs to get the ball. And he's popping up in the weirdest parts of the field. And literally sprint running the entire game, all 90 minutes. Right. Right. I try to explain that to people sometimes. Cause I think, I think something that does happen with Rusnak is he's getting compared Ladero. And it's like, yeah, but,
01:36:22
Speaker
Most humans can't run like that for that period of time that speed. You're right. that's That's a very ah important skill that Ladero had.
01:36:35
Speaker
But I also just feel like the thing that Rusnak does is he is so like psychotically disciplined about his position on the field. He's always close to the center of the pitch.
01:36:48
Speaker
And... When he gets the ball like on a break, and we've seen this so many times, especially with Morris, who he had that awesome chemistry with, he gets the ball in that center of the pitch and it's like a half transition moment.
01:37:02
Speaker
he' He's so good at throwing those balls in behind to Morris or to the outside on the wings. And those chances are always so dangerous. And to me, like he hasn't been playing as well this season. But I think a ah big part of the reason why he's also felt so absent is because the the pivot has also not played great.
01:37:25
Speaker
Like Roldan has not been a best 11 player. He's been good, but he hasn't been what he was last season. And I think as exciting and as good as Brunel has been, he also has not replaced the ball winning and the possessional creativity that Vargas had before he was starting against Barcelona.
01:37:53
Speaker
That's fair. And yeah, Hassani also, you know, was just getting worked in and then he went to concussion protocol. So maybe so with some of what you were supposed to be getting there, you haven't really been getting because of that. That probably has knock-on effects. So no, I think there's some to what you're saying there.
01:38:11
Speaker
Yeah, and I think just, you know, if there was a ah more dominant pivot that we had last time, which was the team's superpower last year, I thought, if we had that more dominant pivot, I think Rusnak would be getting the ball in better places in the center of the pitch, and he'd be able to spray those balls out to the to the wingers, and if Morris was healthy, to a streaking Morris. And we've seen the way that Rusnak is goal-dangerous is on those cutbacks, and if there's not that chain sequence where those passes are going to those locations and he can then receive the cutback, then he's probably not going to be scoring as much. And so I think it's a, i think it's a larger problem with the spine.
01:38:57
Speaker
But I also feel like, again, you know, how much of the sharpness is just this insane road trip that's been happening. And I,
01:39:08
Speaker
I feel good that they're going to much look much better in lumen on grass. If that's going to be enough, I don't know. But i am I'm cautiously optimistic that they can make it into the next round.
01:39:22
Speaker
All right. Well, at least, you know, we I feel like there's been a lot of doom and gloom tonight. So at least we got someone who's feeling the comeback. But ah all right, Alejandro, we got a few more people in the queue here. So we're going to keep working through it. But ah great stuff, man. Thanks for calling in and we will catch you on the next one.
01:39:39
Speaker
Yeah. Good night from sunny Vancouver. Take care. ah All right. We have got hunch. We got Jesus. And then we got Caleb at the drum set. And then I'm probably making these quick. Yeah, we're making these quick hunch.
Best and Worst Moments of the Game
01:39:55
Speaker
We're making these quick hunch. Talk to us to zero deficit. Are you crashing out? Is the series over? Do you think the comeback could still be on when this gets back to Seattle? ah Before before I say anything, can we get a re-intro to our our guests here tonight?
01:40:09
Speaker
Yeah, we have Jaya and Tula of ah the new Eternal Blue Forever Girl podcast. yeah Girl, one girl. Just the one. Just the one. one It's girls, think. I don't know. your names working The name's a work in progress, and I don't think there's an episode out yet, but there will be. there will be soon. Okay. Yeah.
01:40:30
Speaker
New podcast friends. Before I start, I'd like to ask, and either of you choose whatever order you'd like, could could you guys give us the the best and worst of this game from your perspective?
01:40:43
Speaker
That's a good question.
01:40:47
Speaker
This is why we pay Hunch. Okay. Like purely players? Anything. it could be ah It could be staff. It could be the approach. It could be a player. It could be...
01:40:59
Speaker
Yeah. Best and worst general things about the game. Yeah. Okay. I'll be honest. It's kind of hard. I'm a very hopeful fan. i um tend to give people the benefit of the doubt always. And it's very hard for me to pick out a lot wrong with the team currently. Like I do think it was not a good night, obviously. but I think I don't know we're doing so well especially like I said before like we ah like historically this team does not start off seasons well at all and we've been doing really great and it's all been on the road
01:41:42
Speaker
ah Yeah, I think especially with with all the injuries too, like it's been super tough, but somehow they've managed and they've made it work.
01:41:54
Speaker
But the worst part of the team, I don't know. Do you want to take part of it while I think about the worst part? I would say... I would say the best part, I don't remember exactly when this was. There was one point where I got up out of my chair and started screaming about Snyder because he had this. there was i think he had like three guys on him, and he was like turning and doing all these crazy, crazy moves. I love it when he does that. yeah it was The spinning, i think and then he gets fouled. Yeah, exactly. I think that was my one of my top highlights of the game.
01:42:24
Speaker
Worst, I think, might have been...
01:42:29
Speaker
ah Like, I was going to say the Nuhu penalty, but I don't think that was even... Like, I've seen way worse. Yeah, that's not necessarily his fault. Yeah. Maybe the... Honestly, when they almost scored at the beginning, that was the most devastating one for because I feel like i want to change everything. But... Yeah, and I think about maybe our team in general right now, we knew we do need to find a way to finish the ball, put it in the back of the net. I mean...
01:42:57
Speaker
newest yeah yeah best take of all time newest sounders take striker yeah uh no uh noah and aria if you have a best and worst feel free I mean, we've thought we've talked a lot.
01:43:12
Speaker
I don't know. Best, um Paul Areola talking so much shit to every single player. Oh, my God. I just love that. it's like you And clinically, he knows. Yeah, he can he he can he can dish the barbs. He's been there long enough. He knows what's up.
01:43:32
Speaker
He's he's a former Liga Mekis player. like He knows what to say. like i just You can see him in the background like screaming. Yeah, he just kept talking. and that's like I love that. ah Worst thing was probably Paul not finishing that because now we're sitting here talking about this. like The game is...
01:43:48
Speaker
was wait was just like fucking objectively a nightmare. and I mean, if he puts that in the back of the net and we have a road goal, we're sitting here like, bitch. We're on cloud nine. That wouldn't make all the difference. It really would. It's literally inches. It's literally inches. It is neat. I think it was so definitely. Yeah, that's the most devastating thing is that the vibes of the postgame show are not nearly what they could be if they had a road goal. But my best thing from this game hunch was Pete Kingston getting a yellow card for going after Andre Pierre Gignac. That man is in his late 40s and he's crashed out on Peter Kingston, who do you think Gignac has any idea who Pete Kingston is? No. He watches the vlogs. He said, who is 45? I'm going look up the vlogs. And maybe this will be the start of a friendship between Jinyak and Pete Kingston. was trying to intimidate who he saw as a kid on the field.
01:44:41
Speaker
And if Kingston had any CONCACAF chops, he would have taken a dive as soon as the fingertip brazed him coming back at him. true yeah yeah It's true. Pete, the whole yellows.
01:44:52
Speaker
Think about it. It's a long moment for Pete. it's just a cupkacap absolutely brand new He's brand new. yeah He's played more CONCACAF matches than anything. yeah Yeah, he's two CONCACAF matches and one MLS match. sot comeback maybe he Maybe he's just a CONCACAF merchant. but ah huch How are you feeling? you think that so How are you feeling about the series? The series is a different story.
CONCACAF Challenges and Home Comeback Potential
01:45:15
Speaker
I've been around long enough to know that, and I was telling a friend of mine,
01:45:22
Speaker
ah you know, going back over a decade, I went from so infuriating to want like rip the seed out of the stand and throw it at getting conch-capped at times to where now I just like laugh maniacally at stuff that just goes sideways now. Like, it's just like, okay. You're better man than me.
01:45:44
Speaker
Like, I just, I'm so over it. yore I mean, kinda. Wanna know how I got these scars? Yeah. But the odd thing is... O'Shea Nation. yeah heard of it No, O'Shea does a decent job, and he will put people in this place. It's just the first name I could think of, Hunch. I'm sorry. That's okay. Well, I was watching the Nashville game, and that dude was not putting up with that. And i was like, all right, all right, let's go. let's Give us Mr. Nation. But at the same time, like I've turned a corner, and it wasn't after 2022, and it wasn't necessarily after League's Cup last year, but it's just kind of...
01:46:20
Speaker
Like, we don't feel like the welterweight going against the heavyweight champ anymore. We feel like, I feel like we're in a position where we can make a move and make it hit and make it count.
01:46:33
Speaker
And so I'm kind of sadly now invested. I kind of dismissed CCL for a while. Just like it was whatever you get lucky. You get, you know, puncher's chance. Sure. Now it's like, okay, our guys, our org, our league now has the chops and the experience to like deal with this. And I'm,
01:46:52
Speaker
dare I say, on the verge of invested in this tournament. um And that could turn me from maniacal back to throwing chairs. So I don't know how that's going to go.
01:47:04
Speaker
What I'll say, though, in summation for how how I'm feeling about this game, thoroughly disappointed because the number one goal, in my opinion, should have been at whatever cost, no greater than three,
01:47:18
Speaker
Score a goal. Score one. You could give up three. Score one. That makes a huge, huge difference. And the worst i outcome would have been zero zero The amount of time our guys were wasting. Like we were trying to kill the game off.
01:47:34
Speaker
on free kicks on throw-ins on just overall effort and i get like hey stamina's down um efforts down put on some fresh legs but the fact that we were kind of killing off the game which is exactly what tigris wanted Makes no sense to me. In addition to the turtling, 11 guys behind the ball, like their three center backs or whoever were across the circle and midfield for like the entire second half.
01:48:01
Speaker
We were never going to break out. It was just clearance, clearance, clearance right back to them. What do you think was going to happen? Like it just disappointed. I am disappointed and I'm not hopeful about Wednesday Because we give up one, I'm not sure we're getting four.
01:48:16
Speaker
i really am not. you know Okay, you don't need, they said that on the broadcast too. If they get one, then you would need, oh yeah, you would need four. Yeah. yeah Dammit, math, failed by math again. That's why, by scoring, even giving up multiple. Yeah, just one goal a road goal was pretty crucial. And you could be like the Galaxy. They ah just conceded one of the dumbest goals I've ever seen in my entire life. What did that end at? What did that end at? 4-2. But still, away goals is... meant as much they're They're basically down two goals. They're they're in better... They're in better shape because they got the away goals, but they are still down two goals. We are about to watch this own goal. That is a really...
01:48:59
Speaker
Terrible own goal. Bad own goal. Not good. All right. Well, at least LA Galaxy i remembered that they were the LA Galaxy. they They got within 3-2 and were like, wait a minute. We're not supposed to be doing this. wait We're LA Galaxy 2026 edition. We're supposed to to we're supposed to choke.
01:49:17
Speaker
ah to go back to that maniaal side I'll say the other side of the coin is is we're just setting up Tigress to get Cincinnati is what I'm going to with. that's what i'm That's what I'm hoping for. Like, okay, if you can – if there is a scenario where you can come out and get the game state – you don't have to be going full Cincinnati, but, like, if you can get on top of them and put them under a bunch of pressure and make them feel like the road team that's flying by the seat of their pants a little bit – And you get that first goal, then you're in it, man. I'm telling you, you're in it. It's not over.
01:49:52
Speaker
um Before I forget, i want to do something else that I meant to do at the start here. I want to shout out Kenny from Tacoma. We got to close it after this one. I got two points. Two final points.
01:50:03
Speaker
Shout out Kenny from Tacoma, who's always on here supporting his boy, New Who, which I think New Who had a great game in Houston, did decent tonight, unfortunately with the calls. But just dude is rock solid with the the stats and calling in and just being positive overall. all Really enjoy having him on. the other thing I'll say is we're looking at 50s and raining next week on a new grass field.
01:50:22
Speaker
How is that going to go for both teams? o You think they're used to playing in that? I don't know. It could be a wet carpet situation. Like, what's what the hell is going to happen? God damn it, I missed the turf. Bring it back. Pull the grass out. I'm not going to go to the turf. Nonsense. Let's go. K2Turf2026.
01:50:42
Speaker
Well, thank you, Hunch. We appreciate thank you calling. Sorry, we're going to keep her moving. i thank much Unfortunately, I think I also have to call it. Yeah, that's that's valid. Well, guess I'm going to then. Thanks for having us guys. You know, fake grinders. Fake grinders. Yeah, I don't blame you. We really threw you into the gauntlet. don't want to take the light rail by myself too late at night. Well, I'm also taking the light rail home. oh Are you taking the bus or the light rail? I mean, I could take either. Okay.
01:51:15
Speaker
Well, we'll all go together then and we'll go to Dick's. Okay. Okay. There you go Company car Dick's. that's how you there you go That's how you make those post-game plans, folks. Okay. I'm sold. Real grinder. Real grinder. Real grinders. Let's ah let's get Jesus and then Caleb on here and then we're going to call night. Ten minutes. Ten minutes. Five minutes each. Jesus, we hear you. can you hear us?
01:51:38
Speaker
Yes, we could I can hear you guys. What's up, man? 2-0 deficit after leg one in the CONCACAF Champions Cup quarterfinals. Are you crashing out? Is the series over? Are you feeling the comeback when this gets back to Seattle?
01:51:50
Speaker
I'm feeling really confident. This steve this team isn't that good. agree. um I watch um Liga MX. I'm a Chivas fan. Sorry, by the way. but we're I'm a the Cox fan and a Cruz Azul fan. So, you know.
01:52:05
Speaker
um Like, um they're really inconsistent. Like, they win one game, and then they lose another game, and then they win one other game. so They have six L's in the league this year. Six.
01:52:16
Speaker
Yeah. and um And then I don't like them for a passion because of what happened two years ago in that final. Chivas up 2-0, and then they beat us. It was one of the most heartbreaking like games I ever experienced.
01:52:33
Speaker
We're going to get it back for Chivas. We're going to get him back for Chiba. Yeah, I'm i'm going to for sure. gonna go I'm going to be at the game next week and just to watch them and then just to all support the boys, man. We need to get Lumen back. Lumen, I miss it. And it's it felt like, well, almost a year since we've been there. Like, horrible, man.
01:52:58
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Yeah, it really, you know, no matter what happens in this series, I'm just gonna i'm just glad to have a game back at the back at the crib. like this is The road show is ridiculous. yes Yeah, that was almost like horrible thing. And then especially like how did Toronto do that with all those horrible seats that they have at the at that end? Reminds me of Russia 2018. Yeah.
01:53:17
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yeah Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about. In in Toronto, they built the stand and it was super sketchy. It's a whole thing. You guys look it up. But any final thoughts? We are going to power through here. I'm sorry. It's all right. I understand. But my final thoughts is, um well, press the absolute crap out of them and then, like, just do the Cincinnati show, but Seattle Sounders style. Exactly. Let's go. Hell yeah.
01:53:42
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Hey, Suze, thanks for calling in. Appreciate it. We'll catch you next time. We'll catch you next time. Appreciate have a good night. tip Have a good night, man. All right, Caleb, you're going to bring us home. Caleb, we'll last. type home Type five. Type five, Caleb. How we doing? at his drum set. It looks like he's got his De La Vega kit out. Two De La Vegas. Ladero or De La Vega? I can't tell. We're squinting at my laptop.
01:54:04
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Caleb, can you hear us or are you just ah showing your kit at the drum set right now? Yeah, I can hear you. What's man? can hear you. Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you. two zero hey three quarters How you feeling?
01:54:18
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well um all i gotta say to the so-called people that believe in a megamind 11 that thinks that he's getting paid 3.2 million i believe that is supposedly um a game changer ah ah
01:54:41
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Okay, that's all I got to get that first I got that on my system now I mean as i said it before before and the Houston episode I'm not stuck on this conca cap Because it is not what the Emerald City needs.
MLS Cup vs CONCACAF Focus
01:54:57
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I've already Continually said it from the post game. Yes And and if if if I may ask ladies, what do you feel is better like for the city?
01:55:09
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Philip or a conca calf Philip is MLS Cup oh the Philip Anschutz trophies yeah um I mean I'd like an MLS Cup because it's been a while but if I mean if we're talking about like like being best in North America that's also i would say perfectly fine with me but will take any yeah i mean i mean with the run we're on now could it be a multi-trophy year why aren't we talking about that yeah no i am sorry to say that like i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news as wade barrett from w wwe i'm afraid i've got some bad news okay what's because apparently
01:56:02
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Now, OK, as OK, you know what? I wouldn't even be the bearer of bad news. i would say I'm the Paul Heyman and I am the advocate of the most non PG ass kicking club of the PG era, which is Seattle Sounders. but um and all I have to say is that Philip.
01:56:20
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is what this city needs to crave. Because again, we tried to pull out the chest that again, that Garth, written um um'm um again, like count me on my good behavior because I haven't said like, you know, like the bad words, we know like, you know, Ari.
01:56:39
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um and and it is now that i mean it is because of craig that is so somehow that came from the same so place as ah you know a former uh uh garth and has tried to follow in the initiative and the footsteps and since we've so-called also sacrificed a game of rescheduling to september because this weekend technically was supposed to be the opening of the grand establishment of Lumen with grass for the Grand Emerald faithful, the Broham faithful, and the Hawk's Nest faithful, the Emerald City faithful to be joyous and rejuvenation of coming back to the city. But what did we get? No, we get another little dunce because of that. And we try to keep facing it, but we will never
01:57:32
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like step into the truth of admitting that we are not it. I end my statement on that and you have the floor. I restruct the floor back statement to loving scorchers.
01:57:44
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Fire, fire as always, Caleb. I mean, I think, I think that's a perfect place to end it. Honestly, I think you are, you've, you've killed it. We were, ah is it a we were wrapping it anyway. So I think, yeah, wait, Caleb, is that a De La Vega Jersey that you're holding or is that Ladero?
01:58:02
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um Well, Ladero, because technically, you know, he is the one not no mega mind Slovakian guy, you know, like that, you know, some other people like to, you know, think that that's like, you know, ah a grand number 10 when, you know, like literally they haven't scored five goals in a Champions League, you know, like, and absolutely like, you know, scored in a final too. So.
01:58:20
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um but uh but you know it's it's it's it is what it is i'm i'm willing to let bygones be bygones and let's just say like i keep saying it enough with the conca calf we've used all these other tournaments let's get back as adrian as as our beloved owner adrian says that the values and the continuity of this community and this club is very crucial and we want to emerge the values that our fans are egregious, enormous, like ah psychotic, immersed fans that are just crazy the about the rave. That again, that...
01:59:09
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that continually relentlessly come in the drones and in thousands. And we thank you for that support. And we need that support, especially if we want to get Philip. And again, I retract my statement and the floor is back to laughing.
01:59:26
Speaker
Well, may they relentlessly come in droves all over for the Lumen Field ah Lake 2. Caleb, thank you so much, my friend.
01:59:36
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Shout out. we We could be without you. Appreciate you, Caleb. We'll catch you next time. catch you next time. And with that, we are going to call that a wrap for the post-game live of the Lobby Scorchers or the CONCACAF Champions Cup quarterfinals, leg one. We will be back at it. Are we doing a podcast tomorrow? or may i will see we'll We'll put out a podcast at some point. We'll put out more shows at some point. Follow us on all socials. Like the video.
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02:00:35
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