Ben Woodruff returns to That UFO Podcast after a huge response to his first appearance.

In this follow-up, Ben goes deeper into the parts of Skinwalker Ranch we did not fully cover last time, including the “Path of the Skinwalker,” strange activity around Homestead One, unusual cloud formations over the Triangle, biological anomalies, magnetic material found in a catfish, a bird species he says does not fit known raptors, and a skunk case involving three years of no decomposition.

We also get into Ben’s near-death experience, what he says happened when he was disconnected from linear time, and how that changed the way he views consciousness, perception, and the phenomena at the ranch.

A strange, wide-ranging and deeply fascinating return conversation.

https://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconry

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
[https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
[https://ThatUFOPodcast.com]
👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Ben Woodruff Returns: Skinwalker Ranch, Near-Death Experiences, Strange Animals and the Path of the Skinwalker

Luigi Vendittelli joins me to discuss S4: The Bob Lazar Story, Bob Lazar, and why he believes parts of the Lazar story are still missing.

We talk about making the documentary, working closely with Bob, the S4 facility, Element 115, hidden hangar doors, Project Looking Glass, Project Sidekick, and the parts of Lazar’s story that continue to divide opinion.

This is a spoiler-heavy conversation for S4: The Bob Lazar Story.

https://wearenotalone.com/

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]

Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com [http://ThatUFOPodcast.com]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Bob Lazar, S4 and the Missing Pieces | Luigi Vendittelli

Nick Cook returns to the podcast to discuss the launch of the EXO Institute, why he believes the biggest barrier to change is not technology but consciousness, and why we may be approaching a major shift in how we understand reality.

We talk about EXO’s goals, the overlap between consciousness and anomalous phenomena, the modern UAP conversation, political promises of more disclosure, the UK versus US approach to the topic, and the deeper patterns Nick believes sit beneath the mystery.

Nick is a former Jane’s Defence Weekly editor and the author of The Hunt for Zero Point. In this conversation, he lays out why he thinks we are on the cusp of something very different and very new.

https://nickcook.substack.com/
https://www.exoinstitute.io/

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]

Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com [http://ThatUFOPodcast.com]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Nick Cook on EXO, Consciousness, UAPs and a New Paradigm

Donald Trump says UFO material is coming, Anna Paulina Luna keeps pointing people to the Book of Enoch, and the missing scientists story continues to raise serious questions.

In this latest news update, Andy, joined by 'Others from another mother' host, Dan Cleary, breaks down the biggest talking points in UFO disclosure right now, including the promised files and videos, the role of Jeremy Corbell, the religious angle creeping further into the conversation, and whether any of this is building towards a genuine turning point.

A big, thought-provoking discussion on where the UFO topic stands right now.

https://www.youtube.com/@OFAMpodcast

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]

Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com [http://ThatUFOPodcast.com]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Trump’s UFO Videos, Book of Enoch Claims & Missing Scientists

Hims Promo Code - http://hims.com/thatufo

Andy is joined by researcher and author Patrick Jackson to discuss his controversial Sphere Network theory. In this conversation, Patrick lays out his belief that poltergeist activity, luminous spheres and a much wider hidden system may all be connected. The discussion covers his early experiences, the case that pushed him toward this line of research, how he believes these spheres behave, why he thinks they form a hidden network, and how that theory fits into the broader UFO conversation. Andy also challenges Patrick on how he vets sightings, public cases that may be misidentified, and why he believes more people may begin seeing these objects in the years ahead.


https://amzn.eu/d/01zrSN4J


🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast


📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
[https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com


All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
[https://thatufopodcast.com/]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Patrick Jackson: The Sphere Network, Poltergeists and a Hidden Defense Grid

In this news update, Andy is joined by Dan to discuss Bob Lazar’s return to the headlines, the new S4 documentary, and the fallout from the Chuck Clark footage finally appearing online. They get into whether the film adds anything genuinely new, how Lazar’s story has evolved over time, and why the newly surfaced clip has left so many people arguing over what it really shows. Also in this episode: Anna Paulina Luna’s request for 46 videos, the latest missing scientist discussion, and Kacey Musgraves’ alleged orb sighting.

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join⁠
[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join]
🛸 Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠
[https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
🛸 Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397⁠
[https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397]
🛸 Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ⁠
[https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ]
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast⁠
[https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast]

📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: ⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠
[https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: ⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com⁠
[UFOUAPAM@gmail.com]

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ⁠ThatUFOPodcast.com⁠
[https://ThatUFOPodcast.com]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Bob Lazar Is Back and the Chuck Clark Footage Is Finally Out

Whitley Strieber returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss Transformation 2026, and this is one of the most personal and unsettling conversations we’ve had.

Whitley reflects on the terrifying night he believed his young son had been taken, the wider impact these experiences had on his family, and why he feels the world may be moving toward a form of disclosure that will affect far more than politics. We also get into hybrids, telepathy, trauma, religion, consciousness, and what life could look like in a genuine post-disclosure world.

Whether you agree with Whitley or not, this is a fascinating deep dive into one of the most controversial voices in the UFO conversation.

In this episode:

The night Whitley thought his son had been taken
Why he brought Transformation back in 2026
How these experiences affected his family
His thoughts on disclosure and ontological shock
Why he rejects the idea that the visitors are simply demonic or angelic
Hybrids, telepathy, and the long-term human implications of contact

https://amzn.eu/d/047yo6dc

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]

Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com [http://ThatUFOPodcast.com]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Whitley Strieber: “I Thought They’d Taken My Son” | Disclosure, Visitors and Trauma

In Part 2 of my conversation with Skinwalker Ranch biologist Ben Woodruff, we go deeper into some of the strangest claims connected to the ranch.

Ben discusses portals, cryptid sightings, unusual animal behaviour, cattle mutilation theories, supposed time anomalies, and the biological effects he says have been observed on the property. We also get into the dire wolf story, DNA questions, black jaguar claims, and the challenge of separating genuine anomalies from misidentifications, lens flares, and exaggeration.

This is the more detailed and more controversial half of the discussion, as Ben lays out where he thinks the strongest evidence sits, what he believes skeptics get wrong, and why some of the most interesting questions around Skinwalker Ranch are still unresolved.

Check out Ben's work

https://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconry

https://www.jhutchingsmuseum.com/


🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast


📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
[https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com


All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
[https://thatufopodcast.com/]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Ben Woodruff on Skinwalker Ranch Part 2: Dire Wolves, Portals, Cryptids and the Evidence

Ben Woodruff joins me to talk about his background as a biologist, his own childhood UFO sighting, and how he ended up working on Skinwalker Ranch before the TV series began.

In Part 1, we get into what Ben says he experienced during his earliest time on the ranch, including strange voices, unsettling activity inside the ranch house, and the biological anomalies that first made him realise this place was different. We also discuss the balance between real science and television, what frustrates him about NDA restrictions, and a remarkable story involving one of his trained falcons that he says disappeared in front of them during an experiment on the ranch.

This is a fascinating opening half of a conversation that builds from personal experience into some of the biggest claims Ben says he has witnessed firsthand.

Check out Ben's work
https://www.youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconry
https://www.jhutchingsmuseum.com/

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast


📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
[https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
[https://thatufopodcast.com/]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Ben Woodruff on Skinwalker Ranch: UFOs, Animal Anomalies and a Portal Incident

On the 60th anniversary of the Westall incident, I’m re-releasing this conversation with researcher Shane Ryan, originally recorded in December 2022.

Shane has spent years investigating one of the most remarkable mass sighting cases in UFO history: the 1966 Westall event in Melbourne, Australia, where students, teachers, and others reported seeing strange flying saucer-shaped objects over and near the school grounds.

In this interview, Shane breaks down what witnesses said they saw, the reported aftermath on the ground, the response from authorities, and why the case still stands as one of the most important and debated schoolyard UFO encounters ever reported.

If you’re new to the Westall case, or want to revisit one of the most compelling incidents from outside the United States, this is a great place to start.

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:

🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join

🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397

🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ

🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:

Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast

YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]

Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com [http://ThatUFOPodcast.com]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,

Andy

Westall 66 Revisited: Shane Ryan on Australia’s Schoolyard UFO Mystery

Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of
UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena