In this episode I talk to Robert Douglas-Fairhurst about his nonfiction book Look Closer: How to Get More Out of Reading [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/look-closer-how-to-get-more-out-of-the-books-you-love-robert-douglas-fairhurst/7824593?ean=9781911717317&next=t] (2025).

Robert Douglas-Fairhurst was born in 1968 and lives in Oxford, where he is a Professor of English Literature and a Fellow of Magdalen College. His most recent books are Look Closer: How to Get More Out of Reading (2025) and Metamorphosis: a Life in Pieces (2023). Previous books include The Turning Point: A Year that Changed Dickens and the World (2021) The Story of Alice: Lewis Carroll and the Secret History of Wonderland (2015) and Becoming Dickens: The Invention of a Novelist (2011). His other publications include Victorian Afterlives (2002), and editions of A Christmas Carol, Great Expectations, London Labour and the London Poor, The Water-Babies, and The Collected Peter Pan for Oxford World’s Classics, and A Tale of Two Cities for Norton. He is a regular reviewer and features writer for publications including the Times, Spectator, and Literary Review. He has worked as a historical consultant on BBC adaptations of Jane Eyre (2006), Emma (2009), and Great Expectations (2011), the 20-part BBC1/Red Planet series Dickensian (2015-16) and the Netflix feature films Enola Holmes (2019) and Enola Holmes 2 (2022). In 2015 he was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature.

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 29. Robert Douglas-Fairhurst, Look Closer: How to Get More Out of Reading

In this episode I talk to Seth Insua about his novel Human, Animal [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/human-animal-seth-insua/7756277?ean=9780857308894&next=t] (2025)

Seth Insua is an Anglo-Spanish writer and artist. He was born in Kent in 1989. He graduated from the University of Oxford with a First in English Language and Literature. His debut novel, Human, Animal, was published by VERVE Books in 2025 and Letras de Plata in Spanish the following year. It was selected for the BBC Radio 2 Book Club with Sara Cox, and shortlisted for both the inaugural New Adult Book Prize and the Book of the Year: Discover by the British Book Awards. He lives with his husband, David, between Newcastle upon Tyne and Madrid.

Episode notes:

 * Susan Sontag, Against Interpretation
 * Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, 'Paranoid Reading and Reparative Reading...'
 * Roland Barthes, S/Z (the proairetic code)

Book recs:

 * Saleem Haddad, Floodlines [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/floodlines-saleem-haddad/aea1107c861fc684?ean=9781787706132&next=t] (go back and listen to my interview with Saleem!)
 * Josh Silver, Fruit Fly [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/fruit-fly-savage-and-darkly-hilarious-juno-dawson-josh-silver/797f61b84ea7c825?ean=9781836431473&next=t]

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 28. Seth Insua, Human, Animal 

In this episode, I talk to Torrey Peters about her story 'Stag Dance' [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/stag-dance-from-the-bestselling-author-of-detransition-baby-torrey-peters/abbd53a938fa071d?ean=9781800810815&next=t]from the collection of the same name.  

Torrey Peters’ first novel, Detransition, Baby won the PEN/ Hemingway Award 2022 and was shortlisted for the 2022 National Book Critics’ Circle John Leonard Prize for best first book. A Times Top Ten bestseller, it was longlisted for the 2021 Women’s Prize for Fiction. Her follow-up Stag Dance is a quartet of short stories that explore trans life past, present and future.

Episode notes:

 * William Empson, Seven Types of Ambiguity
 * Strunck and White, The Elements of Style

Book recs:

 * Halldor Laxness, Independent People [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/independent-people-halldor-laxness/2392414?ean=9780099527121&next=t] (trans. J. A. Thompson)
 * Juan Gabriel Vásquez, The Sound of Things Falling [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-sound-of-things-falling-juan-gabriel-vasquez/4337957?ean=9781408831618&next=t] (trans. Anne McLean)
 * João Guimarães Rosa, Vastlands: The Crossing (Alison Entreckin)

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 27. Torrey Peters, 'Stag Dance' 

In this episode, I talk to Sasha Debevec-McKenney about her poem 'WHAT AM I AFRAID OF?' from her collection Joy is My Middle Name [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/joy-is-my-middle-name-sasha-debevec-mckenney/7836117?ean=9781804271872&next=t].

Sasha Debevec-McKenney is the author of the poetry collection Joy Is My Middle Name (Fitzcarraldo, 2025). She received her MFA from New York University, was the 2020–2021 Jay C. and Ruth Halls Poetry Fellow at the University of Wisconsin, and a 2023-2025 Creative Writing Fellow at Emory University. Her poems have appeared in places like The New Yorker, The Yale Review, The Drift, and Granta. She was born in Hartford, Connecticut and is currently an Assistant Professor of Writing at Grand Valley State University.

Episode notes

 * Diane Seuss, frank: sonnets [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/frank-sonnets-diane-seuss/7755539?ean=9781804271575&next=t]

Book recs:

 * Yasmin Zaher, The Coin [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-coin-a-filthy-elegant-book-raven-leilani-yasmin-zaher/7808546?ean=9781804441893&next=t]
 * Steven Duong, At the End of the World There is a Pond [https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324086796]
 * Elisa Gonzales, Grand Tour [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/grand-tour-elisa-gonzalez/7614816?ean=9781802067057&next=t]

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 26. Sasha Debevec-McKenney, 'WHAT AM I AFRAID OF?'

In this episode, I talk to Dan Sinykin [https://english.emory.edu/people/bios/sinykin-dan.html] and Johanna Winant [https://www.reed.edu/faculty-profiles/profiles/winant-johanna.html]about their edited book Close Reading for the Twenty-First Century [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/close-reading-for-the-twenty-first-century-dan-sinykin/7839992?ean=9780691265704&next=t] (2025).

Dan Sinykin is Winship Distinguished Research Professor at Emory University and Johanna Winant is an Associate Professor of English and Humanities at Reed College.

Episode notes

 * William Carlos Williams, 'The Red Wheelbarrow' [https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45502/the-red-wheelbarrow]
 * Winant, 'The Claims of Close Reading' [https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/the-claims-of-close-reading/]
 * 'No Crisis' [https://lareviewofbooks.org/feature/no-crisis/], LARB
 * 'Close Reading is a Conversation' [https://theamericanvandal.substack.com/p/collarbone], The American Vandal 
 * Morten Høi Jensen, The Master of Contradictions: Thomas Mann and the Making of The Magic Mountain

Book recs: 

 * Giuseppe Tomasi Di Lampedusa, The Leopard [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-leopard-giuseppe-tomasi-di-lampedusa/302598?ean=9780099512158&next=t]
 * Solvej Balle, On The Calculation of Volume, Vol III [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/on-the-calculation-of-volume-iii/7963536?ean=9780571383429&next=t]
 * Lisa Robertson, The Baudelaire Fractal [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/baudelaire-fractal-lisa-robertson/7448005?ean=9781913512354&next=t]
 * Mark Haber, Lesser Ruins [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/lesser-ruins-mark-haber/7650813?ean=9781566897198&next=t]
 * Mircea Cartarescu, Solenoid [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/solenoid-mircea-cartarescu/7058870?ean=9781805333197&next=t]

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 25. Dan Sinykin and Johanna Winant, Close Reading for the Twenty-First Century

In this episode, I talk to Sara Ahmed about her book No is Not a Lonely Utterance: the Art and Activism of Complaining [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/a-complainer-s-handbook-a-guide-to-building-less-hostile-institutions-sara-ahmed/7792119?ean=9780241759271&next=t] (2025).

Sara Ahmed is an independent queer feminist scholar of colour. Her work is concerned with how power is experienced and challenged in everyday life and institutional cultures. Her most recent book is No is Not a Lonely Utterance: the Art and Activism of Complaining, which was published by Allen Lane in September 2025, and which follows on from The Feminist Killjoy Handbook [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-feminist-killjoy-handbook-sara-ahmed/7218445?ean=9781802061895&next=t]also published by Allen Lane in 2023. Previous books include Complaint! [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/complaint-sara-ahmed/6082880?ean=9781478017714&next=t] (2021), What's The Use? On the Uses of Use (2019),  Living a Feminist Life (2017), Willful Subjects (201$), On Being Included: Racism and Diversity in Institutional Life (2012), The Promise of Happiness (2010) and Queer Phenomenology: Orientations Objects, Others all published by Duke University Press. She blogs at feministkilljoys.com [https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeministkilljoys.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cj.harvie%40qmul.ac.uk%7Cbccafe0b76a04526a26008dd5a430c04%7C569df091b01340e386eebd9cb9e25814%7C0%7C0%7C638765966301171954%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XwUA%2FZEdPcxdb5OGU9425%2FkRa3XL01%2FbEjwpx37AeRg%3D&reserved=0] and has a newsletter https://feministkilljoys.substack.com/ [https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffeministkilljoys.substack.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cj.harvie%40qmul.ac.uk%7Cbccafe0b76a04526a26008dd5a430c04%7C569df091b01340e386eebd9cb9e25814%7C0%7C0%7C638765966301195732%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=aSsO%2F9jUqpnpXP5UaDR7eillJG%2F4MkbyXk2LspFbQhs%3D&reserved=0].

Sara's book recs: 

 * Alexis Pauline Gumbs, Survival is a Promise [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/survival-is-a-promise-the-eternal-life-of-audre-lorde-alexis-pauline-gumbs/7613814?ean=9780141996202&next=t]; Audre Lorde, Sister Outsider [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/sister-outsider-audre-lorde/3874432?ean=9780241410509&next=t], The Cancer Journals [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-cancer-journals-audre-lorde/299596?ean=9780241453506&next=t], The Black Unicorn [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-black-unicorn-audre-lorde/5257914?ean=9780241396865&next=t], A Burst of Light [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/a-burst-of-light-and-other-essays-audre-lorde/2270240?ean=9780486818993&next=t]

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 24. Sara Ahmed, No is Not a Lonely Utterance: the Art and Activism of Complaining

In this new episode, I talk to Saleem Haddad about his novel Floodlines [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/floodlines-saleem-haddad/aea1107c861fc684?ean=9781787706132&next=t](2026), which came out yesterday, Feb 12.

Saleem Haddad was born to an Iraqi-German mother and a Palestinian-Lebanese father. His writing spans novels, short stories, essays, and film and television. His debut novel, Guapa [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/guapa-saleem-haddad/1961961?ean=9781787702059&next=t] (2016), won the Polari Prize and was awarded a Stonewall Honour. His second novel, Floodlines, is published by Europa Editions.

Episode references:

 * Matthew Salesses, Craft in the Real World [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/craft-in-the-real-world-rethinking-fiction-writing-and-workshopping-matthew-salesses/4848272?ean=9781948226806&next=t]
 * Stephen King, On Writing [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/on-writing-a-memoir-of-the-craft-twentieth-anniversary-edition-with-contributions-from-joe-hill-and-owen-king-stephen-king/3771290?ean=9781444723250&next=t]
 * Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird  [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/bird-by-bird-instructions-on-writing-and-life-anne-lamott/028583b6112aa658?ean=9781786898555&next=t]
 * Clarice Lispector

Saleem's Book recs:

 * Fernando Pessoa (trans. Richard Zenith), The Book of Disquiet [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-book-of-disquiet-fernando-pessoa/5257528?ean=9780241200131&next=t]
 * Yasmin Zaher, The Coin [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-coin-a-filthy-elegant-book-raven-leilani-yasmin-zaher/7808546?ean=9781804441893&next=t]
 * Maya Abu Al-Hayyat (trans. Hazem Jamjoum), No One Knows Their Blood Type [https://ohiostatepress.org/books/titles/9798989708413.html]

Find Saleem on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/salhad/?hl=en] and at his website [https://www.saleemhaddad.com/].

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 23. Saleem Haddad, Floodlines

In this new episode - the start of season 2!!!! - I talk to the amazing Elaine Castillo about her novel Moderation [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/moderation-elaine-castillo/a794be4947bc7d62?ean=9781838954963&next=t] (2025).

(Also I said Dostoyevsky in the episode but obviously meant Tolstoy, so sorry).

Named one of “30 of the Planet’s Most Exciting Young People” by the Financial Times, Elaine Castillo is the author of the debut novel America is Not the Heart [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/america-is-not-the-heart-elaine-castillo/6c8a44ac1c8f6904?ean=9781786491350&next=t], the book of literary criticism How to Read Now [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/how-to-read-now-elaine-castillo/6895992?ean=9781838954956&next=t], and her most recent novel, Moderation, recently named a New Yorker Best Book of 2025,  a TIME Must Read Book of 2025, and a Best Book of 2025 by Kirkus Reviews. She works so her rescue German shepherd Vincent can live a better life.

Episode references:

 * George Eliot, The Mill on the Floss [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-mill-on-the-floss-a-norton-critical-edition-george-eliot/4c07145284c489ae?ean=9780393963328&next=t]
 * Jane Austen, Persuasion [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/persuasion-jane-austen/91909?ean=9780099511175&next=t]
 * Toni Morrison, Paradise [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/paradise-toni-morrison/863733?ean=9781784877255&next=t]
 * J.R.R. Tolkein, The Lord of the Rings [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/lord-rings-single-v-p-aa-vv/6952052?ean=9780008537760&next=t] and 'On Fairy Stories' [https://coolcalvary.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/on-fairy-stories1.pdf]
 * Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/war-and-peace-leo-tolstoy/d76bb0c644becac5?ean=9781454959885&next=t]
 * Émile Zola, Germinal [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/germinal-emile-zola/c2ccb97c27e31144?ean=9780486822419&next=t]
 * Augusto Boal, Theatre of the Oppressed [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/theatre-of-the-oppressed-augusto-boal/1843470?ean=9780745339290&next=t]
 * Karen Hao, Empire of AI [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/empire-of-ai-inside-the-race-for-total-domination-karen-hao/7764628?ean=9781802064650&next=t]

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 22. Elaine Castillo, Moderation 

In this festive holiday special, I talk with Prof. Holly Furneaux about Charles Dickens' classic 1843 novella A Christmas Carol. [https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/46] 

Professor Holly Furneaux [https://profiles.cardiff.ac.uk/staff/furneauxh] teaches and researches Victorian literature and culture at Cardiff University. Her work focuses on the cultural history of war, gender, the history of sexuality, and the history of emotions. Following her first book Queer Dickens [https://bookshop.org/p/books/queer-dickens-erotics-families-masculinities-professor-of-english-literature-holly-furneaux-ph-d/7c388dd3a2fda563?ean=9780199566099&next=t&next=t&source=IndieBound](2009) she has continued her fascination with Dickens. She was adviser on the BBC series Dickensian and an organiser of the annual Dickens Day for over a decade. Holly's latest book is Enemy Intimacies and Strange Meetings in Writings of Conflict (2025), which develops her interests in war and emotion, explored in Military Men of Feeling (2016). She is now working on a cultural history of international adoption in the Victorian period.

Episode references:

 * Dickens, Household Words [https://www.djo.org.uk/household-words.html]
 * Preface to Bleak House [https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1023/1023-h/1023-h.htm#cP]
 * Michael Slater, Charles Dickens [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/charles-dickens-michael-slater/3603864?ean=9780300170931]
 * Paul Davis, 'Retelling A Christmas Carol: Text and Culture-Text' [https://www.jstor.org/stable/41211762]
 * Charles Dickens, 'Somebody's Luggage' [https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1414/1414-h/1414-h.htm]

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9].

Ep. 21. Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol (with Holly Furneaux)

In today's episode I talk to Michael Donkor about his novel Grow Where They Fall [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/grow-where-they-fall-michael-donkor/7517884?ean=9780241656860&next=t] (2023); we talk about a passage from p.83 of the paperback edition.

Michael Donkor studied English at Wadham College, Oxford and then undertook a Masters in Creative Writing at Royal Holloway,  London. The Observer named him as one of 2018's best debut authors for his first novel Hold (4th Estate) and in 2019, he was longlisted for the International Dylan Thomas Prize and shortlisted for the Desmond Elliott Prize. His second novel Grow Where They Fall was published by Penguin in 2024. He has judged the Betty Trask Prize, the BBC's National Short Story Award and he regularly reviews for the Guardian.

Episode references:

 * Isabella Hammad, Enter Ghost [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/enter-ghost-from-one-of-granta-s-best-young-british-novelists-isabella-hammad/7523127?ean=9781529919998&next=t]

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Produced, hosted, and edited by Chris Lloyd [https://www.instagram.com/chrisllloyd9]. 

Ep. 20. Michael Donkor, Grow Where They Fall 

Books Up Close is a show for writers, readers, and anyone who wants to know how texts get made. Listen as writer and academic Chris Lloyd performs a 'close reading' of some writing with the author themselves.

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