If you've never heard of Seph Schlueter, then you've definitely heard his music on radio. His hit "Counting My Blessings" has propelled Seph to become one of CCM's most influential rising stars. With a Dove Award nomination and chart success most people only dream of, Seph is proof that saying 'yes' to God can lead to big things. But let's be real – most yes's don't lead us into the spotlight! Seph talks to Jess about keeping it real and staying grounded through the Ohio- based Catholic missionary movement Damascus Worship. They chat about obedience, accountability on the road, and what it looks like to have a healthy internal world amidst the throes of fame.


Buy/stream Seph's album "Counting My Blessings" here. [https://www.amazon.com/Counting-My-Blessings-Seph-Schlueter/dp/B0F8JHD59N]

Connect @Seph_Schlueter [https://www.instagram.com/Seph_Schlueter] and https://SephSchlueter.com


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SEPH SCHLUETER: Saying 'Yes' to God

He's a culture-shifter, a truth teller, and he's not afraid to talk about hard things. Welcome Lecrae to the podcast! Jess chats with Grammy award winning artist about his new album Reconstruction, and he gets real about why he chooses to stay in the Church. Plus, we talk about when it's important to speak up about contentious issues, and what it looks like to live with integrity.


Lecrae's coming to Australia! Pick up your tickets here: https://www.teamwrktouring.com/tours/lecrae-australia


Connect with @Lecrae [https://instagram.com/lecrae] and Lecrae.com [https://Lecrae.com].

Buy/stream Reconstruction here [https://www.amazon.com/Reconstruction-Lecrae/dp/B0FHJ12DQM].

Buy Lecrae's book "Set Me Free: The Good News of God’s Relentless Pursuit (Poetry and Essays)" here [https://www.amazon.com.au/Set-Me-Free-Proclamations-Faith/dp/0310460921].

Watch Lecrae's "The Deep End" podcast here [https://deependwithlecrae.com].


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LECRAE: Reconstructing Faith In The Church

TW: SA


It’s been a big year for Jess and for Christian music. In June, she broke the stories about Michael Tait with The Roys Report, unveiling a 2 1/2 year investigation into allegations of sexual abuse and cover up. But she wasn’t the only journo who was chasing down the truth… Josiah Hesse, an incredible journo from the Mid West who wrote for The Guardian, was close behind. 


Jess and Josiah’s lives are radically different - Christian/Atheist, Oz/USA - but she soon learned they had a lot more in common than she realized. Namely an evangelical upbringing, their taste in music and a passion for justice. 


What happens next to Michael Tait and the Christian Music industry? Jess and Josiah talk about the what happened, what’s next, and what it cost them.


Connect with Josiah @jojodancer3000 [Https://instagram.com/jojodancer3000] and JosiahHesse.com [https://JosiahHesse.com]

Preorder his book “On Fire for God” here [https://www.amazon.com/Fire-God-Poverty-Christian-Personal-ebook/dp/B0D8KBPG1B/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1M24I8Z38LB4G&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.r_6QqNi_JqgiYNL6uUcQ9SWTVnBRtt7MxTnHSeJSngy20YxCxRhXKoqXVXLhpKchCTN3VadYN2NSOsOTRDw4ZQ.gAhW-gTLWH2uDywgl6X-28OEjfJHraH06H8sKY-3-3Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=josiah+hesse&qid=1762160499&sprefix=josiah+hess%2Caps%2C306&sr=8-1].

Read Josiah’s stories on Michael Tait here [https://www.theguardian.com/profile/josiah-hesse].


FIND HELP


USA: Call 988

Australia: Call 13 11 14

Visit To Write Love On Her Arms at https://twloha.com/find-help


Do you work in Christian music? Visit Porter’s Call at https://www.porterscall.com/.

They provide free confidential counseling to artists.


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*Please note: any details about Michael Tait, Newsboys or their associated entities is allegation, and has not been proven in a court of law.

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What’s Next For Michael Tait? with Josiah Hesse and Jessica Morris

TW: Sexual Assault


On June 4, Jess broke the story that rocked Christian Music: in an investigation for The Roys Report, she uncovered allegations that Michael Tait, formerly of DC Talk and Newsboys, had allegedly sexually assaulted three men between 2005-2014, In the following days and weeks, Newsboys would release a statement saying Tait had admitted to living a double life and Tait would release his own confession regarding substance abuse and unwanted sexual advances. As more stories came to light through The Guardian and The Roys Report, radio stations dropped Newsboys from airplay, and now they have been cut from their record label.


In today's special episode, Jess chat's about how she began her two-and-a half year investigation, talks about why it's important these stories go public in Christian Music, and shares a radio interview she did with 96.3fm in Australia in the days following the first article.


Do you have a question for Jess? Submit a question by midnight (central time) June 26 for a chance to be included in our next episode. Email us at betweenyouandmepod@gmail.com or DM us on Facebook or Instagram @BetweenYouMePod.


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 * June 4, EXCLUSIVE: Former Newsboys Frontman Michael Tait Accused of Sexual Assault, Grooming, and Substance Abuse, Dating Back to 2004 [https://julieroys.com/former-newsboys-frontman-michael-tait-accused-sexual-assault-grooming-substance-abuse-dating-back-to-2004/]
 * June 8, Newsboys ‘Heard Rumors Over the Years’ About Tait; Some Radio Stations Bow Out [https://julieroys.com/newsboys-heard-rumors-over-years-tait-radio-stations-bow-out/]
 * June 9, K-LOVE Pulls Newsboys and DC Talk From Rotation Following Tait Sex Abuse Allegations [https://julieroys.com/k-love-pulls-newsboys-from-rotation-following-tait-allegations/]
 * June 10, Michael Tait Admits to “Living Two Distinctly Different Lives,” Involving Cocaine and Sexual Assault [https://julieroys.com/michael-tait-admits-to-living-two-distinctly-different-lives-involving-cocaine-and-sexual-assault/]
 * June 13, ‘He stole a piece of our souls’: Christian music star Michael Tait accused of sexual assault by three men, [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/13/michael-tait-sexual-assault-allegations] by Josiah Hesse
 * June 15, Michael Tait Accused of Sexual Harassment, Abuse, and Drugging by 6 More Men, 2 Were Minors [https://julieroys.com/michael-tait-accused-sexual-harassment-abuse-drugging-by-6-more-men-2-minors/],
 * June 19, Woman Accuses Michael Tait of Drugging Her and Watching While She Was Raped; Says Newsboys Tour Manager Covered It Up [https://julieroys.com/woman-accuses-michael-tait-drugging-her-watching-newsboys-tour-manager-covered-up/],
 * June 23, Newsboys Dropped From Label Amid Michael Tait Scandal and Industry Backlash [https://julieroys.com/breaking-newsboys-dropped-from-label-amid-michael-tait-scandal-and-industry-backlash/]
 * June 25, ‘Secrecy Always Destroys’: Christian Music Artists Call for Reform Amid Tait Allegations [https://julieroys.com/secrecy-always-destroys-christian-music-artists-call-reform-amid-tait-allegations/]



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Let's Talk Breaking the Michael Tait & Newsboys stories

New Artist Showcase is back, where Jess highlights an incredible upcoming artist you need to hear. This week, meet David Dowdell, a Toronto based musician whose love for storytelling, evangelism and guitar are culminating in his debut EP. Jess chats to him about his entry into music, how he experienced Christ in profound grief, and why he chooses to have eternal hope.


Connect @DavidDowdellMusic [https://instagram.com/DavidDowdellMusic]

Listen/stream to David's latest single 'Seasons' here [https://linkbio.co/7012802J7Goa0].

David's EP is out SOON. Follow him on Spotify now so you hear it when it drops.


MUSIC

Seasons

Following You

Beloved

Vanity

Who Knows?


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NEW ARTIST SHOWCASE - David Dowdell

As a rock drummer, music publishing exec and tech mogul, Bill Mullin has done it all - except one thing. After years of innovation and self discovery, he has started a rock opera musical in podcast form called As I Recall F()rever, and it's all about life, faith and asking hard questions. Jess chat to Bill about his commitment to creating something new, how a group of world class musicians created potentially the first ever rock opera podcast, and what it takes to forgive ourselves.


Connect with @The_Next_Humanity [https://www.instagram.com/the_next_humanity/] and TheNextHumanity.com

Listen to the podcast As I Recall F()rever here [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/as-i-recall-forever/id1766309943].


Stream the songs here [https://open.spotify.com/artist/77F6X2Oh4psY1zm0KIyTpP].

Stream/Buy the book, album or vinyl here [https://thenexthumanity.com/shop/].


MUSIC

Let It Be Love by The Next Humanity

Make Me Aware by The Next Humanity

Just Ask ft Jaimee Paul by The Next Humanity

While the World Falls Aart by The Next Humanity

After Life by The Next Humanity

Call Your Name by Dan Bremnes


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BILL MULLIN: The holy work of creating something new

It's a Merry Christmas, because we have 6 x Emmy award winner and platinum recording artist Steph Carse on the show – and just WAIT until you hear his story. From successful country singer in Canada, to living out of his car in Nashville, Steph's experience of God radically changed his approach to art, music, philanthropy and directing. He tells us about his newest movie "The True Miracle of Christmas," and opens up about his mental health anti-bullying non profit YiCount.


TW: Mental health and sexual assault mentioned towards the end of this episode


Connect with @StephCarse [https://www.instagram.com/stephcarse/]and StephCarse.com [https://www.stephcarse.com/]

Watch The True Miracle of Christmas on Amazon Prime in the USA [https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-True-Miracle-Of-Christmas/0N07392O3FHLKJJJ77MQRB8Y60].


Stream/Buy/Watch the single "Almighty" here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHx1H6pbIx0].

Stream/Buy the holiday album "O Holy Night" here. [https://music.apple.com/album/o-holy-night/1720042063]

Visit YiCount here [https://www.yicount.org/].

Support Steph's new film project "Undone" here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owt5i7bjQXI].


MUSIC

My Shining Hour by Steph Carse 

I Only Have Eyes For You by Steph Carse

Mary Did You Know? By Natasha and Steph Carse

The Impossible Dream by Steph Carse

O Holy Night by Steph Carse

Almighty by Steph Carse

Lowest of Lows by Josiah Queen


SPONSORS

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STEPH CARSE: Religion, relationship and the true miracle of Christmas

Meet Caleb and Kelsea Yetton. As members of The Rock Music they are already part of the BY&M family – but today we hear their heart behind the band's new EP No One Knows Me Like You. These musicians and worship leaders get real about grief, asking God hard questions, creating a healthy marriage and how they truly experienced the best of God's people in their lowest moment. This episode will ultimate frisbee its way to your heart (if you know, you know).


Buy/Stream No One Knows Me Like You here [https://l.instagram.com/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftrc.life%2FNoOne&e=AT1f2PUJM0amfYGijkjD-3hHTWYQfEiGonzPuNaj4hF2cV7mzb6NFwL6awvQ0PGRKgEIr9lLz1n0mnfRc8xloQ8i69c5XCR8p8yXj26ba5ZsxPrW]. Stream NOEL here [https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsc.lnk.to%2FQ7GqUx&e=AT21SOHAzWzY8vV-7a2hYE5RrUv1Y4n9ua3CycbjtYmeiUph8Hm0D995h8EoBS0i-Q0wGnrsXlsJRayT2P03ioTeXf-63nNRqoSwmqMw87zvG69w].

Connect @TheRockMusic [https://instagram.com/TheRockMusic] and The RockMusic.org [https://The RockMusic.org].


Listen to our episode with Steele Crosswhite of The Rock Music here [https://betweenyouandmepod.com/episodes3/102].


MUSIC

Revolution Medicine by The Rock Music

No One Knows Me Like You by The Rock Music

All Hail King Jesus by The Rock Music

Holy Savior by The Rock Music

Noel by The Rock Music

Rise Again by 11:21 Worship


SPONSORS

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CALEB AND KELSEA YETTON: The mark of a healthy church family

Meeting musician Dan Damon is like hitting musical and theological bingo – not only is he an internationally published songwriter and a trained jazz pianist, but he is also a retired pastor, an editor, and a former teacher of church music. Basically, this man contains wells of wisdom, and today he chats to Jess about his new Christmas-themed album I Saw Three Ships. Dan gets real about why he uses hymns and songwriting to empower people on the fringes of our church communities, and how he developed an inclusive theology. Get excited friends, Dan Damon is likely the best jazz pianist come theologian you've never heard of!


Connect with Dan at https://DanDamonMusic.com.

Buy/stream I Saw Three Ships here [https://music.apple.com/us/album/i-saw-three-ships/1779047887].


We are proud to partner with our friends at UTR Media for this episode. Connect with UTR Media at UTRMedia.org [https://UTRMedia.org] and follow their socials at @UTRMedia [https://www.instagram.com/utrmedia/] for updates on their Best Music of 2024 lists!


MUSIC

Away In A Manger by The Dan Damon Quartet ft. Sheilani Alix

Silent Night by The Dan Damon Quartet ft. Sheilani Alix

Peace Child by The Dan Damon Quartet ft. Sheilani Alix

Hunger Carol by The Dan Damon Quartet ft. Sheilani Alix

Oh Little Town of Bethlehem by The Dan Damon Quartet ft. Sheilani Alix

It Came Upon A Midnight Clear by Hannah Kerr and Austin French


SPONSORS

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DAN DAMON: The Edges of Our Spoken and Sung Faith

Bible scholar, author and podcaster Erin H Moon has a lot of questions about faith. In her new book 'I've Got Questions: The Spiritual Practice of Having It Out With God' out February 4 with Baker Books, she digs deep into the brine of her Southern Baptist childhood to unpack evangelical trauma, deconstruction, reconstruction and her obsession with Point of Grace. She chats to Jess about the the repercussions of Purity Culture, learning to forgive the younger more fundamentalist versions of ourselves, and who takes the crown in a showdown between Amy Grant, Rebecca St James and Jennifer Knapp. Get ready to laugh, cry and set a reminder in your phone for "I really do need to go back to therapy soon".


Connect @ErinHMoon [https://instagram.com/ErinHMoon] and ErinHMoon.com [https://erinhmoon.com/]

Preorder I've Got Questions HERE through Baker Books and get 40% off [https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598796]. Buy it full price here [https://www.erinhmoon.com/ivegotquestions].

Sign up for Erin's substack here [https://erinhmoon.substack.com/].


OTHER STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT

Take a Day Pass and listen to the Faith Adjacent podcast here [https://faithadjacent.com/].

And here's The Popcast with Knox and Jamie ft. Erin's Google expertise here [https://knoxandjamie.com/].

Watch 'Fired Up' from Disney Channel Movie ZOMBIES here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHjuEF4Q3qU].

This is why Erin (and Jess) love Zac Efron. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-t4vqd534Y]

Get Jennifer Knapp's KANSAS 25 HERE [https://jenniferknapp.com/kansas25/].


MUSIC

Place In This World by For King & Country and Michael W Smith

Bye Fear by Elle Limebear

Pray for Me by Anike

Tonight by Point of Grace

It Gets Better by Josh Wilson

Never Get Used to This by Forrest Frank

A Marshmallow World by Marc Mattel


SPONSORS

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ERIN H. MOON: I've Got Questions About Purity Culture

What happens when musicians talk about the things that hurt, heal and change us in Church culture? The pod that gets real about everything from faith and mental health, to creativity and the music industry. Consider us your weekly coffee date.

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