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In this high-energy and revealing episode, intimacy expert Dr. Susan Bratton, PhD joins us to explain why great sex is not just pleasurable — it's powerful. We explore how optimizing your sex life is the "fourth health factor" that most high achievers overlook, yet it plays a critical role in cognitive sharpness, hormone balance, longevity, and emotional resilience. Susan breaks down the science of pleasure, the importance of blood flow and nitric oxide, the difference between male and female arousal timing, and why communication is the foundation of great sex. From libido botanicals to red light therapy to "sexual biohacking," this episode is a no-BS guide to upgrading your health, relationships, and self-confidence — inside and outside the bedroom.

"Sex is the fourth health factor. The longer you have hot, orgasmic sex, the longer, healthier, and happier your life is."

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00:00 – Intro & Susan Bratton's wild setup

01:00 – Sexuality for high performance & longevity

03:00 – What is the "Fourth Health Factor"?

05:00 – Susan's sexless marriage and transformation

07:30 – What is "passionate, conscious lovemaking"?

10:00 – 20 types of orgasms and erotic learning

12:30 – Supplements, botanicals, and biohacking libido

15:00 – The Sex Life Bucket List (48 erotic playdates)

17:30 – Why novelty, not frequency, prevents boredom

20:00 – Bedroom communication = relationship foundation

22:00 – Male vs. female arousal: What most get wrong

25:00 – The 20-minute warm-up women actually need

28:00 – How orgasms support immune, brain & mood health

30:00 – Libido supplements: nitric oxide, herbs & more

35:00 – Cannabis, vibrators, and "training your pleasure"

38:00 – Sexual biohacking for physical & mental health

41:00 – Why clear communication is hotter than dirty talk

44:00 – "Say what you see": simple ways to talk in bed

46:00 – Tools for expanding pleasure (sex toys & tech)

49:00 – Penis pumps & vaginal red light therapy

52:00 – The truth about "mercy sex" and resentment

55:00 – GainsWave, orgasms after 60 & sexual recovery

58:00 – Ever Forward

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EFR 912: How to Have the Best Sex of Your Life and Why Optimizing Your Libido is the Missing Key to Being a High-Performer with Dr. Susan Bratton

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Dr. Patrick Porter, PhD joins us today to break down what brain fitness really means and why modern life is overwhelming a biological system that was never designed for today's pace. Dr. Porter explains how brain energy, neuroplasticity, breathwork, mitochondria, sleep architecture, stress physiology, light exposure, and daily rituals all influence our ability to think clearly, recover deeply, and perform at a high level. We explore the science behind neurogenesis, the glymphatic system, alpha and delta brainwave states, the impact of sugar and artificial sweeteners on cognitive decline, how breathing and light frequencies regulate the nervous system, and why most people are unknowingly compromising their sleep, metabolism, and cognitive output. Packed with actionable tools—from box breathing and SMR training to healthier morning routines, supplements, and digital hygiene—this episode is a masterclass on how to build a sharper brain and age better.

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00:17 – Neuropruning, neurogenesis & brain voltage explained

01:18 – Why puzzles aren't brain fitness & the need for recovery

02:02 – How neuroplasticity works at any age

03:08 – Challenging the myth that humans can't grow new neurons

03:28 – DNA changes every 40 seconds & mindset's effect on cellular energy

04:42 – Optimism vs. pessimism on brain health

05:31 – The impact of modern sedentary living

08:52 – Light, circadian rhythms & how the body gets biological "codes"

09:54 – Why meditation and ancient practices matter for neuroplasticity

10:44 – The brain's energy demands during sleep

11:13 – Sugar, stress & metabolic dysfunction

12:16 – Tech overload & living in a world we weren't built for

13:19 – Why exercising first thing is harmful if cortisol is high

14:04 – SMR brainwave training & preparing the brain for the day

14:31 – How to enter alpha state through psychological breathing

15:30 – Breathwork as the best pre-workout

16:03 – Memory, aging & how recall networks degrade

17:49 – How environment, food & behavior shape brain performance

18:32 – Brazil study: music + frequencies improve cognitive retention

19:21 – Intelligence is energy, not innate talent

20:42 – Hypernesia, super-memory states & learning faster

21:19 – Stress collapses the brain's energy field

22:25 – The 2 p.m. biological crash & 20-minute reboot method

23:17 – Why you shouldn't drink coffee first thing in the morning\

24:05 – WHOOP data & tracking recovery

28:35 – Fire, infrared, and ancient light patterns regulating cortisol

29:06 – Box breathing & Navy SEAL stress control

30:39 – The 4-4-8 breath for nighttime relaxation

31:31 – Photobiomodulation & brainwave entrainment results

32:48 – Cold plunging, testosterone & the body's adaptive response

33:57 – Pain, opioids & training the brain to regulate pain naturally

34:23 – Why TBIs need light—not darkness—for healing

35:02 – What's wrong with modern education

35:36 – Diving deeper into sleep health: "Sleep smarter"

36:28 – Why 6.5 hours may be optimal; deep vs. REM sleep

37:20 – The glymphatic system: brain "washing cycle"

38:12 – Why dehydration & late eating disrupt deep sleep

39:33 – Tracking sleep: analyzing Chase's data

41:08 – Coal miner sleep study: 1 minute of deep sleep

42:11 – Getting to delta faster improves brai

EFR 911: Build an Alzheimer's-Resistant Brain - How to Rewire Your Brain for Better Sleep, Focus, and Stress Relief with Dr. Patrick Porter

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Dr. Jessica Shepherd—OB/GYN, clinical advisor for P-Volv, and author of Generation M—breaks down everything women need to know about perimenopause, menopause, and longevity. She explains why mindset is the foundation of midlife health, how declining estrogen affects every organ system, why only 8% of symptomatic women ever receive a diagnosis, and how common comorbidities rise 45% or more between ages 40–59. Dr. Shepherd shares science-backed strategies for navigating symptoms, improving metabolic and mitochondrial health, understanding the truth about hormone therapy after the flawed WHI study (which led to an 82% decline in prescriptions), and using exercise, protein, and muscle-building to protect cognition, heart health, and overall vitality. Whether you're a woman entering midlife—or a partner wanting to better support her—this conversation is a masterclass in women's health, empowerment, and aging well.

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00:01 - Intro & shocking stats: women live longer but spend more years in poor health; HRT prescriptions dropped 82% after 2002

00:28 - Muscle as the organ of longevity; women lose 3–5% per decade, accelerated after menopause

01:18 - Why estrogen decline shifts the whole body; Dr. Shepherd introduces herself and her mission in women's health

02:15 - Redefining women's health & longevity; why women aren't thinking about longevity soon enough

04:23 – Mindset, habits, and community as the foundation of midlife health

07:13 - Barriers to staying well: socioeconomic factors, upbringing, access, and misconceptions about wellness

09:33 - Women's current wellness landscape; societal expectations, caregiving burden, and systemic gaps

12:46 – Major healthcare gaps: lack of research, exclusion of women from clinical studies until the '70s, and only 3% of VC health funding going to women

17:30 – Pharma eliminating women's health divisions; downstream effects on innovation and access

19:10 – Perimenopause 101: defining terms, symptoms vs. cycles, 34+ possible symptoms, and why diagnosis is trick

24:45 – The cardiovascular danger of estrogen decline; heart disease as the #1 killer of women

27:02 – Stress vs. perimenopause symptoms; mood disorders peak between 45–55

29:48 – How HRT has evolved in the last 10–20 years; symptom relief and longevity benefits

32:32 – Why only 5% of women are on hormone therapy today; misconceptions and new guidelines

34:20 – WHI study deep dive: media panic, misinterpretation, lack of statistical significance, and lasting fear

39:06 – Risk vs. benefit: how to think about HRT decisions with your provider

41:51 – Chase shares his TRT story; quality of life, fertility considerations, and hormone literacy

45:16 – Dr. Shepherd's personal hormone story: cognition issues, testosterone, and starting estrogen at 46

48:12 – Supplements Dr. Shepherd uses: Vitamin D, creatine, CoQ10, Urolithin A

50:10 – Muscle, mitochondrial health, sarcopenia & gluco

EFR 910: Muscle, Menopause & Metabolism - The Hidden Health Crisis Impacting Every Woman After 40 with Dr. Jessica Shepherd

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Author and mindset disruptor Carla Ondrasik unpacks the radical idea behind 'stop trying'. Carla challenges the culturally accepted virtue of "trying," revealing it as a fear response that keeps us stuck in inaction and self-sabotage. Through personal stories—from pitching hit songs to Cher to rewriting her own future through visualization—Carla shares why doing, not trying, is the true path to success. This conversation explores how trying shows up in our language, our relationships, and our goals, and offers clear, compassionate strategies for unlearning inherited patterns, setting boundaries, and building a life rooted in clarity and courageous action.

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00:01 The Fear Behind Trying - Carla introduces the core message of her book and why trying is often rooted in fear and failure

02:10 Why We're Addicted to Trying - How instant gratification culture conditions us to avoid real effort and use "trying" as an escape hatch

06:46 Yoda, Gretzky, and the Myth of Noble Trying - Debunking iconic quotes and redefining effort vs. action

12:01 The Try Test: What Does It Even Mean to Try? - Carla's book-lifting exercise proves that trying is a mental illusion, not a physical act

15:19 Fear, Music Industry Boldness, and Doing Anyway - A powerful story about pitching a hit song to Geffen Records—and why doing beats hesitation

20:16 Excuses Are Just Rocks Under the Bridge - Why action requires clear motivation and how to move through fear by starting small

24:46 Inherited Trying and Manifesting Through Doing - Carla's unconventional childhood, visualization rituals, and how language shapes outcomes

31:41 The Airport Analogy: Why Trying Isn't Even an Option - Real-life examples where we would never say "I'll try"—and how to apply that clarity to everything

36:51 Trying vs. People-Pleasing: The Power of No - Why saying "I'll try" is often a fear-based way to avoid discomfort—and how to stop doing that

42:41 How to Hold Others Accountable to DoingSimple scripts to redirect vague language and inspire action in others

46:18 The Best Exercise to Escape the Try Loop - Carla's top recommendation: become aware of what "try" really means—and reject it

48:06 The Power of Silence and Doing in Private - Why your goals get stronger when you stop announcing them—and how to let results speak for themselves

52:21 Failure, Courage, and Public Vulnerability - Carla shares her fear, failures, and learning curve while writing and launching the book.

56:13 What "Ever Forward" Means to Carla - A personal reflection on living forward with purpose, urgency, and collective inspiration

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EFR 909: Stop Trying, Start Doing: How to Overcome Fear, Procrastination, and People-Pleasing with Carla Ondrasik

In this second part of the conversation, Dr. Scott Sherr returns to unpack one of the most fascinating compounds in modern mitochondrial medicine — methylene blue. Once used as the first FDA-approved antimicrobial drug, methylene blue is now being rediscovered as a powerful mitochondrial optimizer that helps the body both produce and detoxify energy at the same time. Dr. Sherr breaks down how it enhances ATP production, improves focus, endurance, and recovery, and even helps with travel fatigue and brain fog. He explains how methylene blue works at the cellular level, why quality and dosing matter, and clears up common myths and controversies — including its relationship with nitric oxide, serotonin, and safety concerns. Whether you're an athlete, entrepreneur, or anyone seeking more consistent, sustainable energy, this episode will help you understand how to use methylene blue safely and effectively to support performance and longevity.

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00:01 What Is Methylene Blue? — A 150-year-old molecule repurposed for mitochondrial health

02:13 From Blue Jeans to Medicine — The strange evolution from textile dye to the first FDA-approved drug

04:48 How It Works — The only compound that helps your cells both make and detoxify energy

06:52 Cyanide Antidote — How methylene blue restores mitochondrial function, even in toxin exposure

09:05 Real-World Results — Patient stories of fatigue recovery and performance optimization

11:34 Who It's For — From chronic illness to high performers seeking clean energy

13:31 Performance & Recovery Benefits — Endurance, anaerobic performance, and muscle recovery

16:18 Recovering Faster, Training Harder — How methylene blue enhances oxygen use and heart rate recovery

18:20 How to Cycle It — When and how often to take methylene blue for best results

20:31 Travel & Jet Lag Protocols — How methylene blue acts like oxygen at altitude and in airplanes

23:29 Methylene Blue for the Everyday Person — Calm, clean energy without the crash

26:33 The Importance of Quality & Purity — How to identify pharmaceutical-grade methylene blue and avoid contaminants

27:57 What to Look for in a Supplement — USP grade, certificates of analysis, and testing standards

30:51 Counterfeit Supplements & Amazon Scams — Why most methylene blue products don't meet purity claims

33:54 How to Take It — Solubility, timing, and why troches work best

EFR 908: How to Use Methylene Blue Safely for Energy, Recovery & Brain Health with Dr. Scott Sherr

In this moving Veterans Day episode of Ever Forward Radio, retired Air Force Lt. Col. Benjamin Forest opens up about his personal battle with depression, grief, and identity loss after 25 years of service — and how psychedelics became a catalyst for healing, love, and authentic living. He and Chase explore the mental-health crisis among veterans, the epidemic of loneliness and suppressed emotion in men, and how plant medicine, breathwork, and community can help reconnect us to meaning and purpose. Forest shares insights from his book Trip of a Lifetime: The Psychedelic Guide to Healing, Loving & Living [https://a.co/d/icP2GNu], explaining that true recovery requires vulnerability, relational healing, and learning to open the heart — whether through psychedelics or other integrative practices.

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00:00 – Introduction & U.S. mental-health statistics 02:22 – A cultural depression: loneliness, disconnection & anxiety 04:29 – Playing a role vs. discovering the authentic self 07:07 – The military, identity, and emotional suppression 10:30 – Masculinity, vulnerability, and the loneliness epidemic 13:00 – Grief, alcohol, and the cost of unprocessed emotion 15:30 – Healthy masculinity and belonging after service 18:00 – The biology of belonging & the need for community 20:10 – Losing identity and brotherhood after leaving the military 23:10 – Lessons learned from 25 years in uniform 24:30 – Healing, loving, and living: wounds and relational repair 27:30 – Learning to love well and open the heart 28:45 – Doing life "right" and rediscovering joy 31:00 – Psychedelics as heart-openers & catalysts for healing 34:30 – Veterans leading the way for psychedelic legalization 38:40 – Alternatives to psychedelics: breathwork & somatic therapy 44:00 – Integration: applying lessons after the trip 46:50 – The danger of ego, money, and misuse in plant-medicine circles 49:50 – Writing Trip of a Lifetime and lessons learned 54:30 – Advice to young service members: asking for help is strength 56:16 – What "Ever Forward" means to Benjamin Forest

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EFR 907: Why Men Are (Quietly) Giving Up - Modern Masculinity in the US and Promising Mental Health Therapies with Benjamin Forest

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Tired, drained, and ready for a change? You are not alone. In fact, 94% of Americans experience some degree of mitochondrial dysfunction that is possibly leading to unwanted symptoms such as brain fog, fatigue, weight gain, and even poor mental health. In this episode with Dr. Scott Sherr, MD you will learn how modern life has made us evolutionarily unfit for our environment, and why living in constant fight-or-flight mode leads to what he calls "the sympathetic spiral of doom." Together, we explore early warning signs of cellular decline, the link between mood and mitochondria, and practical strategies for restoring balance — from better sleep and parasympathetic recovery to optimizing nutrition and lab testing. This episode is a masterclass in understanding your body's energy systems and how to reclaim your vitality at the cellular level.

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00:01 What Is Mitochondrial Dysfunction? — 94% of U.S. adults struggle with energy and detoxification.

01:28 Meet Dr. Scott Sherr — His background in internal medicine and health optimization.

04:00 The Science of ATP — How your body creates 150 pounds of energy every day — and the hidden cost.

06:58 What's Breaking Our Mitochondria — Sugar, medications, toxins, and chronic stress.

09:28 Why We're Not Built for Modern Life — Evolutionary mismatch and constant overstimulation.

12:52 Energy Production vs. Detoxification — The "plumbing" analogy that explains cellular backup.

15:48 Early Warning Signs — Fatigue, mood swings, slow recovery, and why energy equals emotion.

20:59 You Can Feel Fine and Still Be Unhealthy — Why "not sick" doesn't mean "optimized."

24:53 Optimizing Cellular Health — Nutrient testing, heavy metals, inflammation, and resilience between ages 21–30.

27:54 The #1 Mitochondrial Killer: Stress — Why sympathetic overdrive is the hidden threat to energy.

30:41 The Sympathetic Spiral of Doom — How stress hormones shut down energy production.

35:59 Breaking the Spiral — Awareness, HRV, recovery, and restoring nervous system balance.

41:46 The Role of Safety and GABA — How feeling unsafe keeps you stuck in fight-or-flight.

46:49 Biohacks That Actually Work — GABA, sauna, sleep, and Dr. Sherr's nightly recovery ritual.

49:31 Modeling Health for the Next Generation — Mindfulness, meditation, and leading by example.

53:15

EFR 906: The #1 Thing Killing Your Mitochondria & How to Stop it TODAY with Dr. Scott Sherr

Olivia Amitrano — founder of Organic Olivia and now recording artist OLIVIA — returns to explore the art of reinvention, inner child healing, and overcoming the fear of the unknown. Olivia opens up about shedding the identity that built her success, rediscovering creativity through play, and learning to trust herself again after a period of deep change. She shares how solo travel, sobriety, and stillness led her back to her truest self, and how embracing imperfection and presence opened the door to her next evolution as an artist. Together, we discuss the courage it takes to outgrow old versions of yourself, why creative play is medicine, and how being present — not perfect — is the ultimate definition of living Ever Forward.

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00:00 – Introduction & Welcome Back, Olivia

02:00 – Reflecting on Growth Since the First Interview

04:00 – "This Is Not the Last Thing You'll Create" — Letting Go of Old Identities

06:00 – Rediscovering Self-Trust Through Solo Travel and Sobriety

10:00 – Meeting New Versions of Yourself in Change

12:00 – Building Self-Trust Through Small, Consistent Promises

14:00 – Recognizing When a Season Is Ending or Beginning

16:00 – Overcoming Fear by Doing It Anyway

18:00 – Showing Up Scared and Breaking Creative Superstitions

19:30 – The Inner Child as a Guide to Wholeness

22:00 – Understanding the Inner Child Through Internal Family Systems

28:00 – Early Childhood Wounds and How They Shape Adulthood

31:00 – The Power of Play, Curiosity, and Wonder in Healing

36:00 – Unlearning Perfectionism and the "Inner Manager"

39:00 – Reconnecting With Creativity and Letting Go of Control

42:00 – Play as Presence and the True Nature of Creativity

44:00 – Parenthood, Presence, and Play as Medicine

46:00 – Art as a Healing Practice and Path to Wholeness

50:00 – Redefining Success, Rest, and the Value of "Nothingness"

54:00 – Minimalism, Money, and the Courage to Start Over

56:00 – Honoring the Women in Her Lineage and Choosing Freedom

59:00 – Meeting Yourself Again: The Power of Stillness and Solitude

01:04:00 – Serving Others Through Your Unique Gifts

01:08:00 – Writing "All This Time" for Her Inner Child

01:12:00 – Creative Channeling, Flow, and Letting Go of Perfection

01:16:00 – Embracing Every Version of Yourself Through Music

01:18:00 – Redefining "Ever Forward": From Growth to Presence

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EFR 905: How to Know You Have a Wounded Inner Child (and How to Heal It) with Olivia Amitrano

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Today I we sit down with psychotherapist and author Jessica Baum to explore how our earliest attachment patterns and trauma bonds shape the way we love, connect, and heal. Drawing from her groundbreaking new book SAFE: A Process for Creating Safe and Intimate Relationships with Yourself and Others [https://a.co/d/6eCUTKs], Jessica explains how the body stores implicit memory, why safety—not strength—is the gateway to healing, and how we can transform our nervous system responses to build secure, authentic relationships. Together, Chase and Jessica dive into the neuroscience of trauma healing, the difference between familiar love and real safety, the role of co-regulation, and how facing your own fears of abandonment can lead to the deepest peace and connection you've ever known.

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00:00 – Why we repeat unhealthy relationship patterns 02:00 – How childhood attachment and body memory shape love 04:00 – Safely feeling what we've suppressed 06:00 – When healing triggers hidden trauma 07:30 – Safety as the gateway to true healing 10:00 – The science of trauma healing and earned security 13:30 – Safe love vs. familiar love 15:30 – Vulnerability, intimacy, and doing the work 17:00 – Healing while single vs. within a relationship 18:00 – Finding anchors: people who help you feel safe 19:30 – Why we crave love even after pain 20:50 – Mistaking intensity for love and trauma bonding 23:30 – Starting the work and finding support 25:00 – How to "therapy yourself" and identify core wounds 27:00 – How trauma lives in the body 30:00 – The nervous system, polyvagal theory, and safety cues 33:00 – Understanding nervous system states (ventral, sympathetic, dorsal) 35:00 – Co-regulation and energetic connection 38:00 – How to recognize a trauma bond 41:00 – Learning to be safe alone 43:00 – Healing abandonment and generational patterns 47:00 – Revisiting childhood wounds without parents 50:00 – Parenting, awareness, and intergenerational healing 52:00 – "It's not your fault, but it is your responsibility" 54:00 – Talking to your inner child and resourcing safety 56:00 – Anchors, inner and outer, for emotional regulation 59:00 – Revisiting painful memories and integrating trauma 01:00:30 – How trauma healing improves physical health 01:03:00 – Compassion, memory, and changing your past 01:06:00 – The role of compassion in creating safe relationships 01:09:00 – The science and humility behind SAFE 01:13:00 – Redefining "Ever Forward": slowing down to heal

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EFR 904: The Neuroscience of Relationships and Safety: Healing Attachment and Core Wounds with Jessica Baum

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In this high-energy episode, I sit down with Carl Daikeler, co-founder and CEO of BODi (formerly BeachBody), to uncover what it truly takes to stay fit, healthy, and motivated at any age—especially after 40. Carl shares the honest truth about hating workouts, why consistency trumps complexity, and how his own struggles inspired the creation of Shakeology and countless effective fitness programs. From breaking the myth of “more is better” to championing the power of 25-minute workouts, Carl explains how to build muscle, lose fat, and achieve longevity without perfection. He reveals how accountability, community, and mindset drive real transformation—and how the best way to help yourself might be by helping someone else. Whether you're looking to get shredded, manage weight over 40, or just finally stick to a routine, this episode is packed with practical, sustainable advice.

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00:00 – Intro and why this episode matters 01:18 – Carl’s mission: help people get healthy with minimal daily effort 03:35 – The water ski test for longevity at 61 04:23 – Accountability: the real key to transformation 06:04 – Starting small: 100 squats, 50 pushups, save a life 07:53 – Why leading by example isn’t enough—lead by invitation 10:22 – Carl admits he hates working out (and how he still does it daily) 13:09 – Shakeology: solving his own problem with vegetables 16:06 – The importance of quality and integrity in supplements 17:34 – The Body difference: short, effective workouts that stick 19:42 – Physical poverty: Carl’s metaphor for neglecting your body 23:50 – Just show up: the spoon and starfish stories 26:12 – Why helping others makes you more accountable 27:18 – How Carl shaped company culture around health 30:25 – Reducing temptation: removing the sugar minefield 34:25 – Fitness by decade: what changes in your 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s 36:14 – Stop over-optimizing: why you don’t need gadgets to succeed 37:30 – Power 90 to P90X: the foundation of scalable fitness 40:08 – Quantified vs qualitative health: how you feel matters 42:51 – Wine bottles to weights: Judy’s lifestyle transformation 44:23 – Blue Zones, simplicity, and living past 100 45:47 – Carl’s “secret sauce” for longevity: Don’t quit 49:59 – Keeping it simple: what makes Body programs work 52:26 – Time under tension and progressive overload: the winning formula 53:22 – Fitness seasons: when to go hard, when to scale back 56:12 – The power of community and hybrid workout calendars 57:00 – Red flags in fitness: obsession with one modality 59:20 – Belvital: a hormone health game-changer for women 01:00:54 – New P90X Generation Next and what’s coming in 2026 01:02:33 – What “Ever Forward” means to Carl 01:04:10 – Final thoughts: save a life, invite someone to start

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EFR 903: How to Burn Fat, Build Muscle, and Stay Adherent to Your Workouts After 40 with Carl Daikeler

3 MILLION downloads and counting! This is the podcast devoted to help you build a life that propels you forward - EVER FORWARD. Exclusive conversations with industry leaders in health and wellness, personal development, entrepreneurship, celebrities and entertainers, emotional intelligence, creatives, military members and many more. Join host Chase Chewning every Monday and Wednesday. Chase is a US Army veteran, ACE Certified Health Coach, and holds a BS in Exercise Science and MS in Health Promotion. He currently lives in Los Angeles, CA.

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