Most people think walking is optional and exercise is mandatory. Dr. Courtney Conley, DPT argues the exact opposite. Walking isn't exercise—it's a biological input every system in the human body depends on. From brain health and dementia prevention to foot pain, metabolism, balance, longevity, and emotional well-being, this conversation reveals why modern life has engineered movement out of our daily routine and what that's costing us. Dr. Conley explains why weak feet may be sabotaging your health, how most footwear is changing the structure of the human foot, why toe strength predicts future function, and how a simple daily walking habit could dramatically improve both physical and cognitive health.

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EFR 948: Walking Isn't Exercise. It's A Biological Necessity (What Happens When You Stop) with Dr. Courtney Conley

Happiness is becoming scarcer as more of us work harder, longer hours. Most adults don't have a productivity problem—they have a joy problem. Somewhere between responsibilities, careers, parenting, and achievement, many people abandon happiness, that playful, curious version of themselves that once came naturally. Do we build better habits at the sake of losing our joy? Improv comedian, speaker, and workplace culture expert Erin Diehl argues that play is far more than entertainment—it's a gateway to resilience, creativity, authentic leadership, self-love, and deeper human connection. Through powerful stories about burnout, post-concussion recovery, IVF heartbreak, motherhood, and rebuilding her life around joy instead of achievement, Erin shares how learning to surrender control, develop happiness as a skill, embrace uncertainty, and intentionally create space for fun transformed both her personal life and business. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, disconnected, overly serious, or stuck in constant productivity mode, this conversation offers a practical and deeply human reminder that joy isn't a reward for success—it might actually be the path to it.

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00:00 Why Adults Stop Playing

02:57 Can Play Make Serious Life Problems Easier?

06:59 Is Play a Luxury?

09:08 Finding Joy Through Your Senses

12:01 Why Everyone Should Take Improv Classes

15:43 Using Improv to Navigate Uncertainty

18:02 The Power of Surrender

21:17 How Your Body Reveals Stress & Control

24:40 Learning How to Receive Joy

27:31 The Balance Between Giving and Receiving

29:54 What Burnout Really Looks Like

35:46 The Health Scare That Changed Erin's Life

41:01 Why Play Is a Form of Self-Love

43:09 Parenting and Rediscovering Play

46:07 Is Play More Important Than Productivity?

47:10 IVF, Grief & Finding Meaning Through Loss

49:30 What "Ever Forward" Means to Erin Diehl

51:43 How to Bring More Play Into Your Life Today

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EFR 947: Is Happiness Exclusive of Success? The Hidden Cost Of Achievement (Nobody Talks About This) with Erin Diehl

Resilience used to mean something. With each generation, we find comfort taking over inconveniences. Or, does strength just look different now? What should we do when we feel stuck in this modern world? Can we retrain our brains to overcome adversity or are we too far gone? In a world obsessed with shortcuts, motivation hacks, and instant gratification, Steve White argues that true transformation still comes down to one thing: learning how to keep getting up. After battling severe cognitive decline, alcoholism, seizures, depression, and near-suicidal hopelessness, Steve rebuilt his mind, body, and spirit from the ground up through relentless discipline, purpose-driven action, and a decision to fight for his life one day at a time. This conversation explores what modern society gets wrong about resilience, why younger generations are struggling to find meaning, how purpose and service create real strength, and what it practically takes to rebuild yourself physically, mentally, and spiritually in just 100 days.

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00:00 – Are We Becoming Weaker as a Society?

01:07 – What Resilience Actually Means in Real Life

02:14 – Discipline vs Motivation

03:00 – Why Most People Never Finish What They Start

04:01 – The Dangerous "Fix Me" Mentality

05:28 – How Your Thoughts Shape Your Future

08:22 – Why Real Change Requires Going "All In"

09:13 – The 212-Degree Transformation Principle

11:13 – The Power of Purpose-Driven Healing

12:03 – "What If You Gave Yourself 100 Days?"

15:23 – Is Resilience Built or Revealed?

16:25 – Steve's Cognitive Collapse & Neurological Decline

17:57 – Making Every Action Intentional

18:42 – Gratitude, Cold Exposure & Rebuilding the Brain

21:25 – Why Most People Repeat the Same Failures

22:55 – The 350-Mile Run That Changed Everything

25:55 – "Welcome to the Beginning"

27:31 – Stop Obsessing Over Labels & Diagnoses

30:11 – Why Personal Growth Matters More Than Achievement

32:46 – The Generational Resilience Gap

35:12 – "Everyone Gets a Trophy" Culture

36:05 – Why Caring for Others Creates Real Strength

37:02 – The #1 Reason People Don't Step Up

39:09 – Rock Bottom, Suicide & Choosing to Fight

42:05 – The Conversation That Changed Steve's Life

43:25 – "This Is Not Me"

45:03 – Recovering 70% of Cognitive Function in One Year

47:15 – "Find Someone Who Believes in You and Fight"

47:58 – Helping Terminal Patients Find Purpose Again

50:29 – Steve's Mom Was Told She Would Die

52:23 – Why Humans Need Purpose to Survive

53:27 – Escaping Mental & Emotional Prison

55:02 – Reframing Hardship as the Greatest Time of Your Life

55:48 – What "Ever Forward" Means to Steve White

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Sperm counts are down 50%. Fertility rates are collapsing. Miscarriages, hormone dysfunction, chronic inflammation, insulin resistance, environmental toxins, sleep deprivation, cannabis use, and modern stress are all colliding into what fertility physician Dr. Natalie Crawford, MD, author of The Fertility Formula [https://amzn.to/3RVr5Ie], calls a growing reproductive health crisis. This conversation breaks down why fertility is one of the strongest indicators of overall health, how inflammation damages eggs, sperm, mitochondria, and hormones, why "healthy" people are still struggling to conceive, and the exact lifestyle, nutrition, testing, and environmental changes that can dramatically improve fertility outcomes for both men and women. Chase and Dr. Crawford also share deeply personal stories about pregnancy loss, the emotional toll of infertility, and how couples can better support each other through one of life's hardest journeys.

You will learn:

 * Fertility is a powerful marker of overall metabolic and cellular health
 * Chronic inflammation is one of the biggest hidden drivers of infertility
 * Sperm counts have dropped 50% over the last 50 years
 * Cannabis use is strongly linked to sperm DNA damage and miscarriage risk
 * TRT can significantly suppress or permanently impair sperm production
 * Sleep may be the single most powerful fertility intervention available
 * Women and men respond differently to fasting, cold exposure, and stress
 * Insulin resistance is affecting far more "healthy" people than they realize
 * Environmental toxins and endocrine disruptors are major fertility disruptors
 * Men can dramatically improve fertility in as little as 90 days
 * Pregnancy loss requires emotional support, community, and medical follow-up

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00:00 - The fertility crisis nobody is talking about

02:24 - Why fertility rates are rapidly declining

03:54 - Fertility as a marker of overall health

05:14 - Chronic inflammation explained

07:33 - The "walkie talkie" theory of hormones

10:10 - Detaching from the identity of being "healthy"

13:00 - TRT and male fertility risks

17:09 - Why men are 50% of the fertility equation

18:54 - Cannabis and sperm DNA damage

22:01 - Plastics, fragrances & endocrine disruptors

24:48 - Why men need to show up during fertility journeys

32:25 - Sauna use and sperm health

35:00 - Cold plunges, fasting & female hormones

37:34 - Best fertility-supporting nutrition strategies

43:53 - Why men can improve fertility in 90 days

44:44 - Women, egg reserves & aging explained

52:43 - The #1 thing you can do for mitochondrial health

55:11 - Fertility tests every person should know

01:00:17 - Why every man should get a semen analysis

01:04:11 - Should everyone freeze eggs and sperm?

01:09:15 - Chronic inflammation & insulin resistance explained

01:17:13 - How stress directly impacts fertility

01:19:11 - Practical ways to reduce inflammation

01:21:43 - The emotional reality of miscarriage & pregnancy loss

01:26:29 - What to do medically after pregnancy loss

01:29:08 - What "Ever Forward" means to Natalie

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Most people are exhausted, inflamed, undernourished, and aging faster than they should be—and the modern food system is making it worse. While supplements promise quick fixes, few address the real root cause of chronic disease: mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, nutrient depletion, and inflammation at the cellular level. In this conversation, algae nutrition pioneer Catharine Arnston breaks down the shocking science behind spirulina and chlorella, why NASA compared algae nutrition to "1,000 grams of vegetables," and how these compounds may support brain health, cardiovascular function, detoxification, gut health, fertility, metabolic health, and longevity. Chase and Catharine also dive into ATP production, oxidative stress, serotonin, men's health, women's health, detoxification, inflammation, and why algae could become one of the most important functional foods of the next decade.

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00:00 — Intro

01:12 — What Algae Actually Is (And Why Most People Misunderstand It)

04:24 — Spirulina vs Steak: The Protein Density Debate

07:45 — 100,000 Studies on Algae & Human Health

11:16 — The Modern Nutrition Crisis Explained

12:20 — Why Most Algae Supplements Lose Their Potency

18:48 — Cardiovascular Disease, Inflammation & Spirulina Research

22:00 — How Spirulina Supports ATP & Cellular Energy

24:49 — Mitochondria, Free Radicals & The Electron Transport Chain

31:24 — Why Chronic Disease Accelerates After Age 40

36:34 — Brain Health, Neuroinflammation & Alzheimer's Prevention

39:22 — PTSD, Brain Scans & Veteran Recovery Results

41:37 — Cancer, Cellular Alkalinity & Otto Warburg's Research

43:15 — Men's Health, Iron Overload & Oxidative Stress

47:36 — Why Most Supplements Don't Work Synergistically

53:06 — Spirulina Dosage, Timing & Daily Use

55:04 — Blood Flow, Nitric Oxide & Erectile Health

57:57 — Chlorella for Detoxification, Gut Health & Recovery

59:58 — Chlorophyll, Serotonin & Gut-Brain Connection

01:04:55 — Constipation, Digestion & Natural Detox Strategies

01:06:22 — Catharine's Biological Age & Longevity Testing

01:08:46 — Shark Tank Rejection & Building EnergyBits

01:11:57 — Why Algae Is Still Misunderstood in America

01:16:23 — What "Ever Forward" Means to Catharine Arnston

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EFR 944: 100,000 Studies Later - The Shocking Science of How Spirulina & Chlorella Reverse Inflammation, Boost Brain Health & Slow Aging with Dr. Catharine Arnston

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Poet, speaker, and transformational coach Adam Roa breaks down the modern crisis of masculinity, emotional safety, conscious relationships, and the hidden ways people abandon themselves in pursuit of comfort, validation, and love. This conversation explores why so many men feel lost, angry, disconnected, and emotionally shut down, how unresolved wounds show up in relationships, and why healing doesn't happen in isolation — it happens through safe connection. Adam shares powerful insights on balancing masculine and feminine energy, the difference between fireworks and mature love, why creativity is a wellness practice, and how saying "yes" to small intuitive nudges ultimately transformed his life and career. From conscious communication to emotional resilience, purpose, relationships, creativity, and modern masculinity, this episode is a deep exploration into what it actually means to become fully embodied and move Ever Forward.

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00:00 – Why So Many Men Feel Lost, Angry & Emotionally Shut Down

01:36 – Adam Roa on Self-Love, Triggers & Conscious Relationships

04:20 – What a Truly Conscious Relationship Actually Looks Like

06:00 – Why You Don't Need to Be "Fully Healed" Before Love

09:10 – Emotional Safety & Learning to Communicate Honestly

13:05 – Masculinity, Modern Dating & Mixed Signals for Men

16:03 – Why Relationships Can't Make You Happy

18:21 – The Dangerous Fantasy of "Movie Love"

23:45 – The Hidden Expectations We Bring Into Relationships

24:25 – Personal Development & Rewriting Your Internal Stories

27:06 – Why Creativity Is a Wellness Practice

28:18 – Adam's Journey from Suppression to Spoken Word Poetry

32:06 – The Viral Poem That Changed Adam Roa's Life

33:23 – The Power of Saying "Yes" to Your Calling

34:03 – Why People Abandon Themselves Instead of Taking the Next Step

38:30 – Growth, Discomfort & Emotional Resilience

40:19 – The Biggest Lie Men Have Been Told About Strength

43:43 – Emotional Safety in Relationships & Masculine Leadership

47:24 – Communication Frameworks That Actually Work

50:10 – Masculinity Retreats, Men's Work & Emotional Capacity

52:03 – Why Warriors Historically Had to Be Poets

54:04 – The Yin & Yang of Masculinity and Emotional Balance

57:01 – King, Warrior, Magician, Lover & Male Archetypes

01:00:10 – Adam on Identity Shifts, Creativity & Reinvention

01:05:30 – Rapid Fire: Truth, Expression, Safety & Aliveness

01:08:19 – Why Simplicity Matters More Than Ever Today

01:11:00 – What "Ever Forward" Means to Adam Roa

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EFR 943: Why Most Relationships Don't Heal Us and the Biggest Lie Men Believe About Strength and Love with Adam Roa

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What if your anxiety, exhaustion, gut issues, insomnia, chronic tension, or even emotional numbness weren't random… but your body trying to communicate unresolved stress and trauma? Somatic healing expert and When the Body Speaks [https://amzn.to/4unAHtE] author Liz Tenuto—better known online as "The Workout Witch"—joiins us to unpack how trauma gets stored in the nervous system and why so many people stay stuck even after years of therapy, self-help, and "doing all the right things."

Liz explains the science behind somatic healing, bottom-up nervous system regulation, neurogenic tremors, emotional release, chronic stress physiology, and how seemingly "normal" symptoms like jaw clenching, gut issues, fatigue, insomnia, and brain fog may actually be signs your body never fully completed the stress response.

This conversation blends neuroscience, emotional healing, nervous system education, and practical tools into one of the deepest conversations yet on what it truly means to move Ever Forward.

YOU WILL LEARN:

 * Why trauma is physical, not just emotional
 * The difference between top-down vs bottom-up healing
 * How chronic stress silently changes the body
 * Why high performers often normalize dysregulation
 * The role of safety and co-regulation in healing
 * The surprising power of tiny movements and somatic exercises
 * How unresolved trauma can mask deeper layers of pain
 * Why healing can lead to a more authentic and connected life

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00:00 – Trauma gets stored in the body

00:44 – What "bottom-up healing" means

01:00 – Why physical release creates emotional healing

01:33 – Neurogenic tremors explained

01:51 – Your body is your most honest messenger

03:09 – Giving yourself permission to not feel okay

06:11 – Is healing a luxury in modern life?

07:35 – When your body is quietly screaming at you

09:07 – Healthy coping vs hidden avoidance

11:42 – Why we always go to extremes with stress

14:21 – Can 5–10 minutes a day really heal stress?

16:12 – Signs trauma may be stored in your nervous system

19:58 – A simple vagus nerve exercise for relaxation

22:25 – Rocking movements & soothing the nervous system

25:14 – Gabor Maté's definition of trauma

26:56 – What is secondary trauma?

30:05 – Chase shares his PTSD healing journey

31:59 – Somatics vs talk therapy explained

35:11 – Why the jaw & psoas hold stress

36:09 – Why animals shake after stress (and humans don't)

38:54 – Why physical release creates emotional release

40:46 – The importance of safe people & co-regulation

43:08 – Signs your nervous system may be dysregulated

45:20 – Liz shares her trauma story

47:14 – Discover

EFR 942: Why Your Anxiety, Gut Issues & Exhaustion Might Be Stored Trauma (and how to finally release it) with Liz Tenuto

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What if obesity isn't a willpower problem at all? In this deeply eye-opening conversation, Chase sits down with bariatric surgeon and obesity medicine specialist Dr. Betsy Dovec, MD to unpack the science, psychology, and stigma surrounding obesity in America today. From GLP-1 medications like Ozempic and Mounjaro to bariatric surgery, emotional eating, food addiction, metabolic dysfunction, and the failures of fad diets, this episode challenges nearly everything we think we know about weight loss. Whether you're someone struggling with weight, supporting a loved one, or simply curious about the future of metabolic health, this conversation offers nuance, compassion, and hard truths that could completely reshape your understanding of obesity and modern wellness.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU WILL LEARN
 * Why Dr. Dovec believes obesity is primarily biological — not a lack of discipline
 * The hidden role trauma and emotional safety can play in weight gain
 * How bariatric surgery changes hormones, hunger, and "food noise"
 * The truth about Ozempic, Wegovy, Mounjaro, and long-term GLP-1 use
 * Why most people regain weight after stopping GLP-1 medications
 * The difference between gastric bypass and gastric sleeve surgery
 * Why visceral fat is more dangerous than the number on the scale
 * How obesity impacts cardiovascular disease, diabetes, fatty liver, and longevity
 * The surprising reason BMI may be one of the worst health markers
 * Why women account for nearly 85% of bariatric surgery patients
 * How sugar and ultra-processed foods are driving the obesity epidemic
 * What long-term success after bariatric surgery actually requires
 * The psychological side of transformation and behavior change
 * Why "food noise" may be one of the biggest hidden barriers to weight loss
 * How bariatric surgery and GLP-1s may work best together
 * The future of weight loss medicine, surgery, and employer healthcare coverage

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00:00 — Is Obesity a Willpower Problem or a Biological Problem?

04:40 — When Should Someone Consider Bariatric Surgery?

08:00 — Trauma, Emotional Eating & Feeling Unsafe in the Body

14:20 — Why Obesity Is More Complex Than Calories In vs. Calories Out

15:40 — Why Men Wait Too Long to Address Their Health

EFR 941: The Truth About Obesity, Bariatric Surgery, Ozempic & Why Most Weight Loss Fails with Dr. Betsy Dovec

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What if the biggest thing standing between you and the life you want… is your relationship with discomfort? Today we sit down with meditation teacher, transformation coach, and bestselling author Light Watkins to unpack why most people fail to create lasting change, how discipline is commonly misunderstood, and why meaningful transformation often takes far longer than we expect. We explore the psychology behind sustainable habits, the hidden cost of complaining, the connection between stillness and fulfillment, why discomfort is essential for growth, and how to stop forcing change and start allowing it. This episode offers a grounded and practical roadmap for anyone feeling stuck, burned out, overwhelmed, or frustrated with their progress in life.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU WILL LEARN

 * Why most self-improvement advice fails long term
 * The "Tortoise Approach" to sustainable transformation
 * How discipline is really about honesty with yourself
 * Why meaningful change takes longer than 30 or 90 days
 * How complaining quietly sabotages growth and abundance
 * Why discomfort creates presence and resilience
 * The surprising relationship between stillness and fulfillment
 * How to stop forcing outcomes and start allowing change
 * Why success alone will never create fulfillment
 * The mindset shift that helps you move through adversity

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00:00 – Why discipline can block transformation

01:12 – Redefining discipline through honesty

05:06 – The "Tortoise Approach" to change

07:22 – Why meaningful transformation takes a year

09:10 – Change is an ultramarathon, not a sprint

11:21 – Practical ways to build sustainable habits

13:37 – Why quick wins matter psychologically

14:06 – The difference between change and meaningful change

17:06 – Brutal honesty & admitting you don't know what you're doing

18:42 – Social media's dangerous speed obsession

20:22 – Expectations, body image & sustainable fitness

23:49 – Allowing vs forcing transformation

24:17 – Why discomfort is necessary for growth

26:25 – Complaining as a hidden self-sabotage mechanism

29:22 – How complaining lowers energy & opportunity

32:14 – Identity, hustle culture & scarcity mindset

36:54 – Why success doesn't create fulfillment

42:13 – Stillness as the foundation of fulfillment

43:49 – If you can't sit with yourself, who will?

45:17 – Gratitude & anchoring into the present moment

47:44 – Balancing stillness with modern responsibilities

50:49 – Why you can't force others to grow

52:12 – Relationships, growth & creating separation

54:04 – Compassion, judgment & self-awareness

56:18 – "Figure out a

EFR 940: The Quickest Path to Changing Your Life for the Better (and the Self-Improvement Trap Keeping You Stuck!) with Light Watkins

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What really created Tesla's explosive growth? Was it Elon Musk, innovation, timing… or was there actually a repeatable formula behind it all?

In this episode of Ever Forward Radio, former Tesla President Jon McNeill breaks down the exact framework used to scale Tesla from $1.8 billion to nearly $20 billion in revenue in just 30 months. Drawing from his new book, The Algorithm, Jon explains how companies like Tesla, SpaceX, Lululemon, and others use systems thinking, customer obsession, speed, curiosity, and innovation to create hypergrowth.

But this conversation goes far beyond business.

Chase and Jon explore how the same principles can be applied to your personal life, fitness, mindset, relationships, habits, and purpose. They discuss the danger of comfort and convenience, why most startups fail even with funding, how to build a mission-driven life, and the hidden cost of scaling too fast.

Jon also shares behind-the-scenes stories from Tesla, lessons from working alongside Elon Musk, the importance of values and intentionality, and why curiosity may be the greatest superpower for growth.

If you want to learn how to think bigger, move faster, simplify your life, and build something meaningful — this episode is for you

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00:00 — Tesla's Hypergrowth Story Begins

00:02 — The Mobile Service Breakthrough

00:12 — Tesla's Parking Lot "Triage" System

00:26 — The Algorithm Explained in 30 Seconds

00:43 — How Tesla Reduced Car Buying From 64 Clicks to 13

01:01 — Intro & Audible Sponsor

01:58 — How Tesla Scaled From $1.8B to $20B in 30 Months

02:35 — Is Hypergrowth Just Controlled Chaos?

03:14 — Growth vs Innovation: Which Comes First?

04:20 — "Creative Dissatisfaction" Inside Tesla

04:42 — Why "Done Is Better Than Perfect"

05:46 — How Tesla Used Customer Feedback Loops

07:23 — The Service Problem That Nearly Broke Tesla

08:53 — Creating Tesla's Mobile Service Model

10:12 — Why Convenience Changes Everything

12:08 — Step 1 of The Algorithm: Question Assumptions

14:03 — Consumer Friction & Asking Better Questions

16:14 — Why Tesla Put Stores Next to Apple & Lululemon

17:04 — Elon Musk's "Domino's Pizza" Car Buying Challenge

18:06 — Eliminating Unnecessary Loan Paperwork

19:20 — How Tesla Made Buying a Car Feel Like Ordering Pizza

20:18 — Convenience vs Character

21:36 — Fitness, Discipline & GLP-1s

23:01 — The Power of Intentionality

24:08 — Building Systems That Scale

25:38 — Learning From Hospitals & Emergency Rooms

27:20 — Curiosity as a Superpower

27:58 — Breaking Down The Algorithm Step-by-Step

29:12 — Why Speed & Quality Must Work Together

30:00 — Lessons From Olympic Cross-Country Skiers

31:20 — Using Speed to Expose Weaknesses

32:03 — How Toyota Forced Tesla to Improve Faster

32:43 — Turning Customers Into Tesla Evangelists

35:19 — Why Tesla Owners Became Obsessed With the Brand

37:14 — Strong Coffee Sponsor Break

37:27 — Knowing When to Pivot vs Keep Pushing

39:12 — Why "Good Enough" Is Dangerous

39:33 — Steve Jobs & The Simplicity Principle

42:04 — How Lululemon Cut Production From 1 Year to 8 Weeks

45:39 — Elon Musk's 10X Thinking

47:02 — Finding People Who Challenge You

49:33 — The Importance of Shared Values

51:26 — Tesla's Core Value: Customer Obsession

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EFR 939: Tesla's Ex-President Shares the 5 Steps to 10x Your Goals with Jon McNeill

3 MILLION downloads and counting! This is the podcast devoted to help you build a life that propels you forward - EVER FORWARD. Exclusive conversations with industry leaders in health and wellness, personal development, entrepreneurship, celebrities and entertainers, emotional intelligence, creatives, military members and many more. Join host Chase Chewning every Monday and Wednesday. Chase is a US Army veteran, ACE Certified Health Coach, and holds a BS in Exercise Science and MS in Health Promotion. He currently lives in Los Angeles, CA.

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