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Episode 25 - Los Statos Deluxe Limited Edition
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This week, the boys sit down with the lates release from Matt Booth and Justin Andrews' Los Statos Deluxe brand!
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Introduction and Pairing Announcement
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Let's Get Pairing.
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This is episode number 25, and we're going to be smoking the Los Statos Deluxe from General Cigar Company, STG, Forge Cigar Company, one of those.
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I mean, actually two of those, but we'll get to that.
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We'll get to that.
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For now, grab yourself a drink, grab yourself a cigar, and let's get pairing.
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Let's get pairing.
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And we're back watching Dennis have something in his eyeball.
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Welcome back, everybody.
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I'm your host, Tripp, here in the Casa de Monte Cristo studios in sunny Florida with my co-host, Dennis, back in the game, back in the darkness dungeon of death.
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Triple D, we're rolling out.
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Dennis, how are you doing this week?
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You know, I was doing great until I got some tobacco dust in my eye from cutting my cigar.
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It'll get you.
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It's the wrong place.
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Don't put tobacco in your eyes.
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It's not good for you, I don't think.
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I mean, you can only... You never know until you try it, right?
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You gotta try it first.
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That way you know if you like it or not.
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That is... We were talking a little bit about that.
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Yeah, I think that's a fair point.
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But I'm happy to be back.
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Kind of.
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We'll call it
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sort of back not official full studio kind of setup but we're kind of getting there better than the the piss porch or the porch of purgatory yeah exactly you're out of purgatory back in the dank dungeon of doom and dark yeah quadruple d's now quadruple d's we're rolling in bigger and better
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Man, I'm letting my cigar go out already because we're talking.
Cigar Introduction and Collaboration Details
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All right, today, this is episode 25.
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I don't remember if I said that or not.
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We're smoking the Los Statos Deluxe Limited Edition.
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I assume at some point this is going to be called the Limited Edition 2024 because they'll probably have more of them eventually.
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But for now, this is just called the Los Statos Deluxe Limited Edition.
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Now, Los Statos Deluxe...
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is a brand that, uh, general cigar STG has owned for a while.
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Um, in 2022, they acquired room one-on-one cigars.
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And as part of that, they brought on Matt Booth as their creative director at STG.
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Um, STG is kind of the parent company.
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Um, general cigar and forged cigars are, uh, subsidiaries, I guess, of, uh, that operate under STG.
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Um,
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So they revived the Los Statos Deluxe brand with this new label that I think looks pretty snazzy.
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They definitely got the packaging going for these things.
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Yeah, man.
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And this brand is kind of a collaboration between two people that we like very much for the most part.
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Matt Booth and Justin Andrews are the co-heads of this brand, which is wild, right?
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Knowing both of those guys.
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Knowing both of those guys, it's an amazing partnership, I tell you that.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So in 2024, this year in March, they released this one, Delostatos Deluxe Limited Edition.
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And they brought in somebody else to help them collaborate with their collaborations.
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They needed some additional collaboration.
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So they brought in William Ventura to make the cigars at Ventura Cigars in the Dominican Republic.
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Interestingly, based on the blend info that was in the press release they gave me, there's not any Dominican tobacco in this cigar, which is interesting.
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Very surprised.
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So the wrapper on this, as I'm sure you can guess, Dennis, but, you know, at home, you can't necessarily tell the difference on camera, especially if you're listening to the podcast.
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Like, you're, you know, you can't tell what wrapper we're smoking through your earbuds.
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You're, what are they called?
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AirPods.
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Man, I'm getting old.
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I forgot the name of AirPods.
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What are the kids called?
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Yeah, man.
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Rapper is Mexican San Andreas Which you know Looks like Mexican San Andreas
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binder is Ecuadorian Sumatra.
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And as far as the fillers they tell us, there could be other fillers in here.
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I would guess if there were, they'd probably be Dominican.
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But what they tell us is there's Connecticut Broadleaf, Pennsylvania Broadleaf, and Corojo 98 from Nicaragua in the filler.
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We're smoking the... This is only available in one size.
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It's this one.
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It comes real nicely presented with some tissue paper and this like super intense...
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wrapper on the outside um very very uh you know eye-griving packaging but that does come at a cost of 16.99 per cigar which is a lot for a little five and a half figurato it is uh yeah yeah man definitely but that being said i've
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You know, I've just lit it a little bit after yours, but I'm kind of liking it so far, man.
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The one thing is I retro hailed it a little too soon.
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Got some punch.
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It's got some punch, man, and a little heavy.
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I went a little heavy on the retro hail.
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My ears popped.
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So I feel good.
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I feel refreshed.
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Maybe that's what you need.
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Help you out with some of your medical issues.
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Keep those ears popping.
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You know, keep your balance on point.
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I just constantly retro hailed in this thing.
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Just hit the tree next to my house.
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Just got hit.
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I'm looking out the window at it.
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I've gotten so used to it, it's just background noise now.
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Like, we get so much thunder here, man.
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It's crazy.
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I've read, I don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard people say and read that the area I'm in has more lightning strikes per year than anywhere else in the country.
Cocktail and Beer Discussions
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It's a lot.
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More lightning strikes than gators that drink light beer?
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I don't believe it, man.
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Yeah, that's what they say.
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That's what they say.
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More lightning strikes than gators and lightbeard combined.
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A lot of lightning strikes, Doug.
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Damn.
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How are you feeling about this cigar so far?
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It's spicing you up?
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It's spicy.
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So yeah, it's spicy, but really to break it down, it's not, it's still developing for me.
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So it's one of those things where I talk about the sort of the dusty quality sometimes.
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I think part of that is that it's a perfecto.
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Like that, that first half inch takes a little bit to get going.
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Definitely part of that.
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The dryness that I'm getting is it just, it's for a lot of the stuff that I smoke, I'm just so used to it now.
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I don't even think about it.
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So I generally kind of almost ignore the first third.
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Yeah.
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Just to give it time to warm up a little bit, to start smoking, to get into a pace with the cigar.
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And then just the thing I think for mine, kept it a little under, a little under on humidification.
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So I'm trying not to crack it.
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I'm being very gentle with it.
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All right.
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I'm thinking like for me, it's the dryness I think is definitely there.
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Like,
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It's got that typical San Andreas mix of powdered sugar, dry cocoa, and dry earth at the same time.
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And it like, I was going to say what it reminds me of, but I'm not even going to bother because I can't even think of the, something to make an example out of right now.
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There's a lot of spice in this first, you know, half inch or so, so far.
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I'm curious to see if that keeps going throughout the cigar.
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I don't really know what to expect from this cigar because like you, this is the first time I'm smoking it.
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But so far, I think it's starting off good.
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I like the Retro Hell, though.
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That's for me, off the first light, that's the thing that really made me feel very happy.
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So I'm going to run with it.
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Yeah, I like it, too.
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The Retro Hell is a real nice mix of a lot of spice with some sweetness in there.
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And it's so far so good, right?
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But this is a pairing show.
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We got to get to pairing at some point.
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So we might as well do it a little earlier than we sometimes do.
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Because this cigar, like you said, is kicking off, you know, not on the slow side, but we're still getting into it.
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Because we haven't gotten past that end of the perfecto point yet.
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All right, so first up for me, I don't have anything super interesting for this one.
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But I decided to make it old-fashioned.
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So I got a little bit of old-fashioned history.
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I'm using Mezcal Sacrificio, which, as I've talked about before, is a ABC Total Wine.
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I think it's Total Wine.
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House brand of Mezcal.
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It's made in Oaxaca and real Mezcal, but...
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There's not a whole lot of information or history on the brand.
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They have a website that talks about their product line, and that's about it.
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You know, being a house brand.
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Yeah.
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So instead I went the other route.
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I decided to make an old fashioned, uh, in the old fashioned way I could find.
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But before that, the old fashioned, uh, is a drink that everybody knows these days.
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Uh, and the story of it is somewhat lost to time because, uh, things like that just weren't well documented in the early to mid 1800s.
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Um, so nobody knows exactly when it started, who came up with it.
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Um,
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But kind of the prevailing story is that it came out in the mid-1800s, sometime 1840-ish.
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I've seen some say 1880s, but it sounds like 1880s might be when it solidified into what it is now.
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originally an old fashioned was in contrast with the cocktails that were popular at the time.
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Uh, there were a lot of cocktails that had a ton of ingredients, uh, that had, you know, based on things like chartreuse, absinthe or curacao, um,
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that were a lot more involved.
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And so asking for a simpler cocktail started to become asking for an old-fashioned cocktail.
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And then eventually, nobody knows when, it turned into the title for a cocktail recipe that is any spirit.
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With bitters, sugar, and water.
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So even the first old fashions weren't necessarily with bourbon or rye or even whiskey at all.
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There was a time where you could get a gin old fashioned and it was totally normal.
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Old fashion was just what you wanted in addition to the spirit.
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Since then, people think around the time of Prohibition, when it ended and cocktails came back into fashion, of course, after being banned for 10 years, 11 years, something like that.
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then old-fashioned became a specific cocktail with whiskey or rye.
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I've decided to go the mezcal route because I meant to do it last time, and I poured whiskey in my glass, and then that was too late.
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Yeah, man.
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But for my recipe, I went a little old-fashioned, and I don't know if I've even shown you these, Dennis.
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Have I?
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No.
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This is the old Mr. Boston Deluxe official bartender's guide.
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Deluxe is great.
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I love that part.
Craft Beer Industry Insights
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You like how, look at that.
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Deluxe.
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Deluxe?
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Not deluxe.
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Deluxe.
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So I went with their old-fashioned recipe, which it turns out is just the same old-fashioned recipe we use now.
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You know, it's a sugar cube, a little bit of bitters, mash them up, put a little water in, add your whiskey, and then garnish.
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Now, let's say, let's not malign the good name of an old-fashioned, because those three ingredients, while simple, can be modulated in really cool ways, like different kinds of bitters, different kinds of spirits.
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There's some cool stuff there, man.
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Yeah.
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But the reason I bring this out, this is this old Mr. Boston Deluxe Official Bartending Guide.
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I'm sorry.
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I misspoke.
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Deluxe Official Bartending Guide.
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This one I have.
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This is my oldest.
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But I actually, like, I don't remember which one I got first, but I found one of these at a Goodwill.com.
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And I just thought that's so cool when I was, I don't know, maybe late teens or early 20s.
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I don't remember if I even drank yet.
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But I started to hunt them down and I now have...
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I think eight of them all printed in different years.
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This one was printed in 1941 and it is a reprint of the original released in 1935.
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But I've got them, you know, from random years between 1941 and 2015 or so, I think is my, my newest one.
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Yeah, that's my little, I don't collect many things, but that's one of the things that I started collecting and they just have stayed with me for a while.
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So I'm going to take a couple sips of this here old-fashioned and let you talk about your first pairing of the evening.
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Yeah, dude, that is a fine-looking glass, I'll tell you that.
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Why, thank you.
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That's good.
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I almost went, I actually thought about doing cocktails, all cocktails tonight.
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And well, truth be told, I have a bunch of beer I need to get through.
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So tonight's going to be a beer episode and that's okay.
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Sometimes it has to be that way, right?
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Yeah.
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Let me grab this can and show you what I got going on over here.
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Check that out.
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You may have seen that before.
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Oh, yes.
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Road Brewing Street Cart.
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I haven't seen Street Cart before.
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I've had Mango Cart several times.
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Yeah, so Mango Cart is the flagship kind of cart thing.
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So this one is lime and salt.
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I'll get into that just in a little bit.
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But their Mango Cart kicked off this really cool thing now where they have a box.
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It's all carts.
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It's all different carts.
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It's Mango Cart, Lava Cart.
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There's a spicy, I think it's a spicy Mango Cart.
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Nice.
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like a fiery, fiery mango cart, which is excellent.
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And, and then this one, which is the, the lime, the lime and salt one.
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And so these guys are out in the headquartered in the at water village area of Los Angeles neighborhood, I should say.
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And they started back in 2011.
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Apparently, they're still to this day the largest brewery in representing L.A.
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Wow.
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It's kind of a big deal.
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But also thinking about the fact that they distribute to both of us says a lot about how big they are.
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Right.
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Well, I'm glad you brought that up.
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I'm going to tell you a little bit more as to why that happened, how that happened, if you will.
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think about for a second though 2011 there was a lot going on with beer the beer world was kind of booming they had all this crazy IPA stuff going on Eddie Topper was kind of taken over the country by storm Stone was a big deal we had a lot of west coast IPAs a lot of cool stuff like Green Flash was coming out East Coast stuff was I miss Green Flash me too
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Yeah, man, it's been so many years.
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But so a lot of people were starting really cool projects back then.
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And so one of the very few pioneers in craft beer as a female is the founder of Golden Road.
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Speaker
I can't think of the name.
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I keep thinking of like Golden something.
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Yeah.
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I know what you mean.
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Some names that happens in my head where I'm like, I just can't get the name to stick, right?
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Yeah, it was a good one.
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It keeps coming up.
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I keep thinking of it.
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Meg Gill is the founder and one of very few pioneers in craft beer in the US who is a woman, which is pretty cool.
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They started a pretty typical system, 15-barrel system, and shortly after they upgraded to a 50-barrel system,
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and really started pumping out a lot of beer.
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And that's when around 2015, they started a partnership with Anheuser-Busch.
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So the reason why you and I and everybody else across the country can get this beer is largely in part to Anheuser-Busch.
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Really, that was kind of a distribution partnership rather than a, right?
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And we see this sometimes on one side, it's just distribution or the other side, they'll take over completely.
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And all those breweries end up disappearing.
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In this case, I think they got a pretty good deal where they can use all the distribution channels and just focus on production.
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Yeah, I think... What year did that happen?
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2015?
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2015.
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I think that's kind of right around when Anheuser-Busch realized that them buying small breweries was killing those breweries.
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Because once they bought it, a lot of the hardcore customers no longer wanted it.
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They would find something else.
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And that's where brands like Green Flash...
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Clown Shoes.
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Speaker
Oh, Clown Shoes.
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Yeah.
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Speaker
What's the one?
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Ballast Point.
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That was the one I was trying to think of that I couldn't get in my head.
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I kept wanting to call it Constellation Point.
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It was, yeah.
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So Ballast Point was doing really well when they had their entire Barreled series, the Heavy Seas.
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Yeah.
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was amazing they had some really great stuff and and unfortunately they disappeared but uh yeah i guess they they realized you know that that old meme this this kills the crab they figured it out like wow we're not going to do this anymore so thankfully they're still around i've seen them more than ever in the last year me too i've had them before but i think the last year they really ramped up and the mango series for sure has been killer
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And it's just a really cool.
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Everything is like brewery branded.
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So I'm representing like four different breweries at any given time.
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That's the way it goes.
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But just lime, a little lime, a little salt, 4.8%, which is really nice.
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Just an easy drinking, really great summer beer, I think.
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And purposely, purposely put together with this cigar, I wanted to add a little bit of refreshment, a little minerality to it.
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Nice.
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Amen.
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This mezcal old-fashioned, I'm not sure, is working.
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It's very good.
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But it has like, maybe I just added too much bitters because it's just got a little bit of extra like intense bitterness on the palate that I'm not used to getting from an old-fashioned.
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What kind of bitters is used for that?
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Ango.
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Oh, Ango.
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Ah, dude.
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The classic.
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Next time, get yourself some of them cocoa bitters.
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Speaker
I need to get cocoa bitters.
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Speaker
The problem is... Olay bitters?
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Very nice.
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Speaker
Here's the problem.
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Problem is, if I get anything that is not Angostura bitters, I'm going to have a hundred different bottles of bitters.
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Yes, that is exactly how this is supposed to happen.
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It's exactly how that works.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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And you can all pop your own bar.
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That's great.
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I guess that's true.
00:20:06
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But yeah, the problem, the reason I don't go out and buy more bidders is because I'm afraid.
00:20:12
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I'm afraid that it will become a problem because I know that's how I do, right?
00:20:19
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But it's working okay with the cigar.
00:20:22
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It's just not working on its own as a cocktail right now, I don't think.
00:20:26
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That smokiness, I think, really adds something to it from the mezcal.
00:20:32
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But it just kind of combines with something in a weird way.
00:20:34
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It gets extra bitter.
00:20:35
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Maybe it's the orange peel.
00:20:37
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Good evening, Sam.
00:20:38
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Thanks for joining us.
00:20:40
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How's that, what was it called, street cart?
00:20:44
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Street?
00:20:45
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Oh, God, now I get to look at it.
00:20:46
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Yeah, it's street cart.
00:20:48
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which has got a really cool... Check that out.
00:20:52
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Sorry for the glare there.
00:20:54
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So is it the same kind of like not quite IPA pale ale style as mango cart?
00:21:02
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Yeah, exactly.
00:21:03
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Yeah, same vibe, same... I suspect it's the same bass even.
00:21:07
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Very likely.
00:21:09
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Instead of doing... And that would make sense.
00:21:10
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If I was brewing it at scale, I would use the same bass and then just modulate the...
00:21:17
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Whatever the addition is in this case, it's lime and the salt.
00:21:20
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I was mostly curious if it was more of something like a Mexican lager style.
00:21:27
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No, I thought it was going to be and it's not.
00:21:30
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This is basically mango cart without the mango and lime and salt.
00:21:35
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I like that.
00:21:36
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But if you close your eyes for a second, you can get the essence of the mango cart.
00:21:41
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Which is cool.
00:21:43
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We don't see enough breweries doing that.
00:21:46
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where people will say, oh, that's a cop-out.
00:21:48
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It's the same base recipe.
00:21:49
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All the beers are going to taste the same.
00:21:51
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Yes, if you don't do a good job, probably.
00:21:54
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I always love that.
00:21:55
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Like when Prairie has done their bomb, they've done... All the bombs.
00:22:02
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Yeah.
00:22:03
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Well, they've done not just a bunch of cool variants of it, but they've also done... I don't remember what it was called.
00:22:09
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They did the deconstructed bomb, but then they also had one that was like just no bomb.
00:22:15
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Like, I don't remember what it was called, but it was the Prairie bomb with none of the adjuncts in it.
00:22:21
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that was just like a straight stout.
00:22:23
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I don't know.
00:22:24
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It's just interesting to taste it that way, right?
Pairing Reflections and Experiments
00:22:28
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If I'm tasting it with that, I want to try it without that, just so I know what the difference is.
00:22:33
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I'm telling you, man, I'm going to say this now, and if somebody out there hears this and decides to do it before I do, totally fine.
00:22:40
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All the respect to you.
00:22:41
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Please do it.
00:22:42
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I want to see this happen.
00:22:43
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But my dream is to do a three-bottle box set.
00:22:52
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components all three components of a single beer so fully deconstructing their individual beers on their own but then you can combine them in different ways and sort of walk through the flavor profile of a single set of beers if you will that's an awesome idea like i think that would be so much fun and you do like a limited you know series once a year or twice a year for the holidays or something like that could be fun that's a good idea
00:23:16
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All right.
00:23:17
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So for my next pairing tonight, I've gone with an absolute classic.
00:23:21
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We talked about it last week, and I've been eyeballing it all week waiting to crack this thing open.
00:23:30
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Unibrew founded in 1993.
00:23:33
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Chambly, Quebec.
00:23:35
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Yes.
00:23:36
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Originally it was started in 1990 by two business partners who had, they had previously been involved with a brewery that we'll get to later.
00:23:46
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And they decided to divest from that brewery.
00:23:48
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You start a new business to empower emerging craft breweries in Quebec to distribute more widely.
00:23:54
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They would, they would distribute to the U S and distribute across Canada.
00:23:59
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Um,
00:24:00
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So they had, I think it was about eight breweries that became part of this distribution project for them.
00:24:07
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A couple of them left after just a couple of years.
00:24:10
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And they kind of went back to the drawing board and decided this isn't going to work out.
00:24:16
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It's not working for us.
00:24:17
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It's not working for the breweries.
00:24:20
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Why don't we buy Masawapi, Masawipi, which was the brewery they had previously been involved with.
00:24:29
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It's a hard name.
00:24:31
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So they acquired their partner to brew the beer.
00:24:36
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In 1993, they kind of merged the brewery and the distribution company to form Unibrew Brewery.
00:24:46
Speaker
And, I mean, the rest is history, right?
00:24:48
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They've always focused on very Belgian styles, and they have become one of the most award-winning breweries in Canada.
00:24:58
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And this beer right here has,
00:25:02
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become their flagship.
00:25:04
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I couldn't find when the first release of this was, but I have to assume it was in the mid-90s, like soon after they started.
00:25:11
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It was, you're right, mid-90s, 96 maybe.
00:25:16
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I mean, yeah, something like that sounds right.
00:25:20
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Something like that.
00:25:21
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And I know, and I heard about it even before I even knew anything about craft beer of any kind.
00:25:26
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We really didn't have craft beer, but there was always some guy, right?
00:25:30
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Now we're the old guys.
00:25:31
Speaker
There was some guy, like this old wizard guy on the park bench who just would mumble shit and would just randomly talk to you about random stuff.
00:25:37
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Like, oh, you know, once I was in Canada and I had this beer, it was great.
00:25:41
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You can never figure it out.
00:25:42
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And then it hits you five or six years later.
00:25:44
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You go, fuck, that guy was, I know exactly what he's talking about now.
00:25:47
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French, of course, for the end of the world.
00:25:52
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They named it after the belief of European explorers that when they reached America, that was the edge of everything.
00:26:00
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When they reached the East Coast, that was, there was no further that they could go.
00:26:04
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There was going to be land for a little while, but that was the edge of the world.
00:26:07
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Imagine if people still felt that way.
00:26:10
Speaker
Oh, wait.
00:26:10
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Imagine.
00:26:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:13
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You know, the flat earthers, they did say there was a statement.
00:26:16
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They did say they have members all around the globe.
00:26:19
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That was their own words.
00:26:20
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They said this.
00:26:21
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They actually meant the disc shaped globe, Dennis.
00:26:24
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Yeah, the disc.
00:26:26
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Oh, God.
00:26:27
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So much yeast.
00:26:27
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We've got a lot to talk about.
00:26:30
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All right.
00:26:31
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So Le Fendement.
00:26:32
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This is a Belgian style triple sort of.
00:26:37
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I mean, they call it a triple.
00:26:39
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But it's not really a traditional triple.
00:26:42
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It's the New World spin on a Belgian triple.
00:26:47
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Essentially, it's brewed with orange and coriander.
00:26:52
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Compared to Belgian triples, this has more orange and coriander and a little bit less hops.
00:26:58
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Um, clocks in at 9%.
00:26:59
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Yeah.
00:27:01
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9% ABV.
00:27:02
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Um, so it's a little bit hot.
00:27:04
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Got that beautiful Belgian color.
00:27:08
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Like just, I mean, it looks more red on camera to me, but it's like bright yellow, you know, that cloudy, bright yellow that never stops bubbling.
00:27:17
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kind of belgian style um and lastly this is the most awarded beer in canada history no beer in canada has won as many awards as this single beer uh which is incredible like it's in it's in the hundreds 150 or something like that it's uh it's it's amazing and it's amazing when you talk to people about it the the level of excitement that they have the passion the sort of like yeah man i remember i was drinking this thing you know years ago and and
00:27:47
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It's tied to so many great stories and so many great memories for a lot of people that I've encountered over the years.
00:27:52
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It's a great beer, man.
00:27:54
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I think their story, the culture, the location is really cool.
00:27:58
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It's an awesome thing.
00:28:00
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Belgian influence is awesome.
00:28:03
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Yeah.
00:28:03
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You know, I love a good Belgian beer, but this is like a nice twist that to me is a little less aggressive than some Belgian beers.
00:28:12
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It's still very intense beer, but not as aggressive and intense as some of the Belgian stuff.
00:28:20
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It's Belgian for starters, I think.
00:28:22
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Yeah, it is more complex.
00:28:25
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That's a good distinction.
00:28:26
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And I think also a lot of people are used to, at least in the U.S., we're so used to just cracking a beer and sitting there and drinking the beer.
00:28:33
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And that's it, right?
00:28:35
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Overseas and in most places outside of the U.S., beer is accompanied by usually by food.
00:28:41
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So in Belgium, especially a lot of those beers that normally would say, man, this is a lot of flavor.
00:28:46
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It's a lot of yeastiness, a lot of stuff going on.
00:28:50
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or too effervescent, that's generally meant to be paired with some kind of a meal, some kind of a cheese, something to cut through the flavor and to pair together.
00:29:00
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And I think that's what makes beers like this pair well with cigars.
00:29:04
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Anyway, on to your second pairing while I enjoy a little bit of La Fin de Mo.
00:29:10
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Omelette du promotion.
00:29:13
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That's what I was thinking of.
00:29:15
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I could tell.
00:29:16
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I saw it in your eyes.
00:29:18
Speaker
You saw the eggy sparkle in my eyes.
00:29:22
Speaker
What am I even talking about?
00:29:23
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It's so lost.
00:29:24
Speaker
All right.
00:29:25
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Here we are.
00:29:26
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Second pairing.
00:29:28
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Brothers, Craft Brewery and Harrisonburg, Virginia.
00:29:32
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Very hard to say.
00:29:33
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I don't know why.
00:29:34
Speaker
Harrisonburg, Virginia is hard for me to say.
00:29:37
Speaker
It doesn't roll as well as left in Duval.
00:29:40
Speaker
I think the reason is that your brain always wants to say Harrisburg.
00:29:46
Speaker
Yes.
00:29:46
Speaker
Oh, being from that area, like Harrisonburg sounds like you're burping in the middle of a word you already know.
00:29:54
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You know what?
00:29:55
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Come to think of it.
00:29:55
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I just realized that when I looked at the bottle and saw where it was made, I was like, these fuckers, they fucked up the P in the PA.
00:30:04
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And I was like, oh, it's Virginia.
00:30:06
Speaker
Oh, that's weird.
00:30:06
Speaker
Okay.
00:30:09
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So Brothers Craft Brewery in Virginia.
00:30:12
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I love that label.
00:30:14
Speaker
It's super nice, man.
00:30:16
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It's Lil Hellion.
00:30:18
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It's 4.9% Helles lager.
00:30:21
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Love me a Helles.
00:30:22
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If you haven't guessed, these guys are brothers and they launched their brewery in 2012.
00:30:26
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What's really cool is that I didn't buy this in a store.
00:30:31
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This came to me by way of a monthly beer box, like a subscription box that my lovely wife gets for me every month.
00:30:41
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Nice.
00:30:42
Speaker
It's four different beers.
00:30:44
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It's, I think, hold on, it's four beers, 20 bottles.
00:30:48
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It's three bottles of each beer.
00:30:51
Speaker
So it's 12, right?
00:30:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's a 12 pack of beer, which is really cool.
00:30:54
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It comes with a really nice card with all the info on the breweries and the beers.
00:30:58
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Now, this one is interesting because you can't really tell.
00:31:02
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I don't think the bottom, I already poured it out, but.
00:31:06
Speaker
We talking some unfiltered action?
00:31:09
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I'm talking, I think there's a little bit of infection going on here.
00:31:13
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No, that's not what I was hoping.
00:31:15
Speaker
No, no, no.
00:31:15
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I love it.
00:31:16
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I love this.
00:31:16
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This is fantastic.
00:31:17
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So it seems that every bottle that I've tried of this beer has been funked up.
00:31:21
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And the reason why I say this, because if you don't know, those of you that don't know what a Helles Lager is, other than having a pretty fun name, Helles Lager was essentially what the Bavarians decided to make as the competitor for Pilsner's.
00:31:36
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So in Bohemia, you had your classic Czech Pilsners.
00:31:39
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Well, now we call them classic Czech Pilsners.
00:31:41
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Back then, they were just Bohemian Pilsners or Pilsners coming from Pilsen, which is a whole other story we can get into.
00:31:48
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Now, the Bavarians were like, nah, man, too many hops.
00:31:51
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It's too intense, right?
00:31:52
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There's too much going on.
00:31:54
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So they made it a lot sweeter, much bigger malt profile, more of that bread character that you kind of typically see with a lot of Bavarian beers.
00:32:03
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And...
00:32:05
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Less hops, more malt.
00:32:07
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And this one is not supposed to taste like, well, it kind of tastes sour.
00:32:12
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I'll tell you that.
00:32:13
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I really dig it because it tastes sour.
00:32:16
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It's got that real subtle funk.
00:32:18
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Like it's almost like the yeast almost didn't make it all the way.
00:32:22
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It was taken over by some kind of bacterium.
00:32:26
Speaker
Interesting.
00:32:27
Speaker
For the right person, it's exciting, right?
00:32:29
Speaker
It's like blue cheese.
00:32:30
Speaker
Some people are like, man, I'm not going to eat that.
00:32:31
Speaker
It's moldy.
00:32:34
Speaker
I mean, that's exactly how sour beer is, right?
00:32:37
Speaker
Like when you get an infected beer, a lot of times it's not bad.
00:32:42
Speaker
It's just different.
00:32:43
Speaker
It is different.
00:32:44
Speaker
But it would be kind of like if you open your Swiss cheese and then it tasted like blue cheese, right?
00:32:50
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:51
Speaker
Exactly.
00:32:51
Speaker
That's the experience you're getting here.
00:32:54
Speaker
Listen, it's still a good beer.
00:32:54
Speaker
And when I say infected, I should have said sour rather than...
00:33:00
Speaker
Not the bad infection.
00:33:03
Speaker
Yeah, infected is a beer word for bacteria got in there.
00:33:09
Speaker
But even that sounds bad.
00:33:11
Speaker
So that's why we call them sour beers and not bacteria infected beers.
00:33:15
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, nobody wants to drink a bacteria infected beer.
00:33:18
Speaker
But the distinction now, if it was truly infected with something that made it go bad,
00:33:26
Speaker
This wouldn't have somewhat, I mean, it has some head retention.
00:33:29
Speaker
It's fine.
00:33:29
Speaker
But it would have exploded.
00:33:31
Speaker
Yes.
00:33:32
Speaker
It would have foamed up.
00:33:33
Speaker
I would have had barely any actual liquid.
00:33:35
Speaker
I'm glad it didn't because my laptop doesn't need to die yet.
00:33:38
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:39
Speaker
Things like botulism tend to foam a lot more.
00:33:42
Speaker
I haven't experienced it myself just yet, but I'm hoping it never happens.
00:33:46
Speaker
I haven't either, and I'm hoping not to.
00:33:48
Speaker
But they do foam.
00:33:49
Speaker
So yeah, this is really interesting because typically Helles lagers, like I said, are less hoppy.
00:33:55
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They're so much less hoppy generally that you almost don't notice the hop quality because the malt kind of takes over.
00:34:02
Speaker
In this case, because it's so soured, all I taste is hops and sour, which is pretty cool.
00:34:09
Speaker
Not the intention, I get it, but it's kind of cool and I think it's working really well with the cigar.
00:34:15
Speaker
All right.
00:34:16
Speaker
In a weird way.
00:34:17
Speaker
Interesting.
00:34:20
Speaker
I don't even know what to say now.
00:34:22
Speaker
I'm just going to move on.
00:34:24
Speaker
Le Fendoumont is... I mean, if you didn't get it from the way we were waxing poetic about it before, it's an amazing beer.
00:34:32
Speaker
Just a great beer.
00:34:33
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Super
Cigar Flavor Development
00:34:34
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well-balanced.
00:34:34
Speaker
A little bit of that alcohol kick, but then you get...
00:34:38
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you get like i mean there's definitely hops and then you get that coriander on on the palate and the orange uh and it's just working really well with the cigar like it it really works nicely as a balance with the the spice and that earthiness of the cigar and we haven't talked enough about the cigar lately so before we move on to our last pairing um dennis what are your what are your thoughts on how the cigar has been going
00:35:06
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You know, I said all those nice things and I'm starting to get to a place in the cigar where it probably needs a good purge.
00:35:13
Speaker
And maybe, I don't know what it is.
00:35:16
Speaker
I mean, based on the bill that they gave us in the press release, Connecticut Broadleaf, Pennsylvania Broadleaf, and Nicaraguan Corojo 98.
00:35:29
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in the fillers, it kind of makes sense that it would be kind of rough on the palate, right?
00:35:33
Speaker
Like that's kind of a spice and earth bomb making fill of material.
00:35:39
Speaker
Yeah, there's a... What do we call that?
00:35:42
Speaker
That's brimstone mixed with gunpowder.
00:35:47
Speaker
You're getting that again?
00:35:48
Speaker
Because I'm not getting that from this at all.
00:35:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's weird.
00:35:53
Speaker
I don't know why all of a sudden that I... Maybe I was smoking a little too fast.
00:35:59
Speaker
Could be.
00:35:59
Speaker
Could be.
00:36:01
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Rob Goodhart wants to know if you got your office situation resolved.
00:36:05
Speaker
Well, either I got it somewhat resolved or it's going to resolve me shortly.
00:36:10
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And if that happens, I already gave Tripp the kind of DNR notice in the beginning of the show in the green room.
00:36:16
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I said, dude,
00:36:18
Speaker
Cut the live feed.
00:36:19
Speaker
Keep rolling.
00:36:20
Speaker
All right, we're going to make secondary income off this thing, right?
00:36:24
Speaker
$9.99.
00:36:24
Speaker
You get to see me pass out of my office.
00:36:27
Speaker
Exactly.
00:36:27
Speaker
Put it on the only parents.
00:36:30
Speaker
$6.66, actually.
00:36:31
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Sorry.
00:36:32
Speaker
Perfect.
00:36:35
Speaker
Perfect.
00:36:36
Speaker
Man, this is a great beer.
00:36:36
Speaker
And it's going really, really well with this cigar.
00:36:40
Speaker
I feel like if I was...
00:36:44
Speaker
Going back and doing this again, I think like a amber or a porter would work really well with this cigar.
00:36:51
Speaker
Something that's like got that roastiness, but it's not overly intense like a stout.
00:36:56
Speaker
Speaking of overly intense, I may have made the wrong decision here because again, I don't want to do this one blind.
00:37:01
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um i have a scotch here oh all right so this is a signatory bottling from bunahavan um signatory for anybody who's not familiar is one of the independent bottlers that john and i talked about a couple weeks ago um this is a company that just they just buy barrels from the distilleries and stick it in a bottle um
00:37:27
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and just see how it comes out.
00:37:29
Speaker
Actually, this one is a little bit different because one of the things that Buna Haben is famous for is not peating pretty much any of their whiskey.
00:37:41
Speaker
This is... It says it somewhere on here.
00:37:45
Speaker
I'll see if it'll show up.
00:37:46
Speaker
It says Stoysha.
00:37:48
Speaker
I don't know what Stoysha means.
00:37:52
Speaker
Russian.
00:37:53
Speaker
Is it Russian?
00:37:55
Speaker
You gotta spell it for me.
00:37:57
Speaker
Where is that word?
00:37:57
Speaker
Stoisha.
00:37:58
Speaker
S-T-A-O-I-S-H-A.
00:38:02
Speaker
Where is that?
00:38:03
Speaker
Oh, Stoisha.
00:38:04
Speaker
Oh, I don't know.
00:38:06
Speaker
It sounds Russian, but I'm assuming it's Gaelic.
00:38:09
Speaker
Stoisha is like something that stood.
00:38:15
Speaker
Something that was stood upon.
00:38:17
Speaker
Now you're questioning my literary acumen here now.
00:38:23
Speaker
I mean, I don't even know if it's, uh, if it's any, in any way related to Russian.
00:38:29
Speaker
Um, I couldn't find much on it, but Doisha is what they call their heavily peated whiskeys.
00:38:37
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Um, almost all of them are, uh, independent bottlings or store bottlings or something like that.
00:38:45
Speaker
Um,
00:38:45
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In this case, this is, again, Buna Haban.
00:38:49
Speaker
I've talked about them a lot.
00:38:50
Speaker
They were founded in 1881 on Isla.
00:38:53
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They don't usually make peated whiskeys.
00:38:55
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They were in a very remote location, and they still use spring water.
00:39:00
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That's the short version.
00:39:02
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This one, and the other really cool thing about independent bottling in this case is that it says it was aged eight years.
00:39:12
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It tells you the date it was distilled, the date it was bottled,
00:39:15
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And it was matured in a de-chard and re-chard hogshead cask, which de-chard, re-chard is where they scrape out the inside of the barrel and then re-burn it to kind of give it that toasted character a little bit more than a reused barrel.
00:39:39
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Yeah.
00:39:40
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This was cask number 900280 from Bunahabin, and this is bottle number 249.
00:39:50
Speaker
Very cool that you get all that info.
00:39:52
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I mean, you better for the price.
00:39:54
Speaker
This is, oh, it wasn't crazy, but I think it was like $110 or so.
00:39:57
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It's not terrible.
00:40:01
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Not terrible, but it's a lot for a glass of whiskey,
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00:40:03
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right?
00:40:03
Speaker
Or a bottle of whiskey, right?
00:40:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:07
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So I'm going to take a couple sips of this.
00:40:09
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It is also, I should mention, non-chill filtered, non-colored, and bottled specifically for ABC liquor stores, which is where I got this.
00:40:21
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So if you're interested, your local ABC store still may have some of these, but a run of something like this doesn't last forever.
00:40:30
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They're usually a couple hundred, maybe a couple thousand bottles at the most.
00:40:35
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What do you got for your last pairing while I take a couple sips of this?
00:40:38
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Speaking of the 90s, I appreciate it.
00:40:40
Speaker
Also, by the way, actually, I just looked up the word Stoisha, right?
00:40:45
Speaker
It seems completely unique to them.
00:40:49
Speaker
It's probably just a word they made up.
00:40:51
Speaker
It's a word that they made up.
00:40:53
Speaker
There's some sort of Gaelic influence here and there, but it's not clear exactly what the origin is.
00:40:59
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Thankfully, my Soviet card is not going to get pulled tonight.
00:41:02
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But...
00:41:04
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But it's an interesting word, nonetheless.
00:41:07
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I mean, it struck me as immediately Russian-like.
00:41:12
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You know, there's some words that sound very similar in a couple of different languages.
00:41:16
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Definitely Russian being one of them.
00:41:18
Speaker
All right.
00:41:20
Speaker
Oh, wow.
00:41:20
Speaker
This is interesting.
00:41:22
Speaker
I haven't had this in a really long time.
00:41:24
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Go back to 1994.
00:41:25
Speaker
You're talking about mid-'90s.
00:41:28
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Have you ever had anything from Shipyard?
00:41:32
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I don't believe so.
00:41:33
Speaker
All right.
00:41:34
Speaker
Fantastic.
00:41:35
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So Shipyard Brewing Company was founded in 1994, as I mentioned, in Portland, Maine.
00:41:41
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And they are still one of the largest craft breweries in the U.S. It's pretty cool.
00:41:45
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So they're founded by Fred Forsley and the master brewer, Alan Pugsley.
00:41:51
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And they basically took English brewing techniques and
00:41:54
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And they popularized old classic English brewing techniques by bringing over beers that this one obviously is there.
00:42:01
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They call us the flagship like export ale.
00:42:04
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It's really just a kind of a golden ale.
00:42:07
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But this is if you remember in your early college days of going out to bars and drinking, you say like, I'll give me a I'll take an ale, whatever ale you got.
00:42:14
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Right.
00:42:14
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You would get a beer.
00:42:16
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from whatever brewery, it didn't matter, generally had a very similar profile to it.
00:42:20
Speaker
You had Irish Reds that all had a very similar profile and certain kind of malt character to it, right?
00:42:26
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Slightly hoppy, but mostly malty.
00:42:29
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This is what we saw with, oh, what's the name?
00:42:35
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I'm blanking on the name now.
00:42:37
Speaker
I don't know.
00:42:38
Speaker
Boston Lager.
00:42:40
Speaker
Oh, Sam Adams.
00:42:42
Speaker
Yeah, but Sam Adams is a Boston Beer Company.
00:42:45
Speaker
That's what it is.
00:42:45
Speaker
Thank you.
00:42:47
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Boston Beer Company, similar to those early beers in the late 90s, early 2000s, kind of had that vibe.
00:42:56
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So they really stick to mostly English-style brews.
00:43:00
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They're really famous for their Pumpkinhead Ale, which you've probably seen in stores.
00:43:03
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Definitely.
00:43:05
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Which is, you know, not bad, man.
00:43:09
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I generally don't gravitate to our pumpkin stuff, but they do a pretty good job.
00:43:15
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And they are a massive, massive brewery.
00:43:18
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They're doing, I'll tell you, just over 100,000 barrels a year.
00:43:24
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That's a big brewery.
00:43:25
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Which is a fucking lot of beer, man.
00:43:28
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And this is again, this is why it makes them one of the largest craft breweries still in production.
00:43:33
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Not owned by anybody else.
00:43:34
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They are still themselves.
00:43:36
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They're not in partnership as far as I know.
00:43:38
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You'll love to see it.
00:43:41
Speaker
What's that?
00:43:41
Speaker
You'll love to see it.
00:43:44
Speaker
Oh, yes.
00:43:44
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The company is still being independent.
00:43:47
Speaker
I thought you said, dude, just yell.
00:43:49
Speaker
Dude, just yell.
00:43:50
Speaker
Dude, just yell.
00:43:52
Speaker
No, no.
00:43:53
Speaker
Dude, just yell.
00:43:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's another beer.
00:43:54
Speaker
Dude, just yell.
00:43:55
Speaker
Are you familiar with that beer?
00:43:57
Speaker
No, not familiar with the beer.
00:43:58
Speaker
I was just telling you to yell.
00:44:00
Speaker
No, no, that's a beer.
00:44:01
Speaker
Do this yell?
00:44:03
Speaker
I never thought about it that way.
00:44:05
Speaker
Anyway, this really interesting...
00:44:09
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kind of hoppy take on English beers, which generally are more on the malt side.
00:44:13
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Again, this is another story of typically what you see is more malt, more bread, toffee, darker beers.
00:44:19
Speaker
This is certainly kind of light for an English beer, but it could be a Cremale.
00:44:23
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But then again, you have the hops, which makes it very classically American.
00:44:26
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We talk about American Pils, American Pale Ales, American Cremales.
00:44:31
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They all have this kind of vibe to them that are...
00:44:35
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Even Pilsners, especially Pilsners, I should say, in the U.S. are very hoppy.
00:44:40
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Yeah, we like our hops.
00:44:42
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We love our hops, and that's fine.
00:44:44
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That's great.
00:44:45
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But nonetheless, it's always nice to see classic techniques or older techniques that were not typically used in the U.S. for a long time being kind of still popular.
00:44:58
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Yeah, definitely.
00:45:01
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Now, I don't think it's going to work well with the cigar, though.
00:45:03
Speaker
Oh, really?
00:45:04
Speaker
It goes that way sometimes.
00:45:05
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That's how I felt about this Buna Haban, which I forgot to mention is...
00:45:11
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putt down to 46% ABV.
00:45:13
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This is not the only downside of this bottle, I think, with all the information they give you and everything, is that it's not cask strength, but at least it's 46%, you know, a little bit elevated to kind of bump that flavor up.
00:45:28
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But, you know, I would rather a cask strength version of this.
00:45:32
Speaker
Against what I thought was going to happen when I took a sip of that, like, it's got this
00:45:39
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Not super intense, not Ardbeg or Laphroaig level smokiness, but it is like... I guess it would compare to a Lagavulin in the level of smokiness.
00:45:53
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And then also with that kind of candy sweetness.
00:45:56
Speaker
But then it has a very different character to something like a Lagavulin, where it's kind of got that...
00:46:03
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that apple kind of, uh, bite to it a little bit.
00:46:08
Speaker
Um, I know exactly what you mean.
00:46:09
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Yeah.
00:46:10
Speaker
It's like a really pleasant mix of a bunch of different whiskeys, um, in just the right ratios.
00:46:16
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It's got enough smokiness that if you hate Pete, you will hate the cigar or hate this whiskey.
00:46:24
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Um, but if you love Pete, like me, there's enough Pete to keep you interested.
00:46:29
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Um,
00:46:31
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But it's not overpowering like it is with some.
00:46:33
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It's not, I mean, I don't want to go back over what I said, but it's not super intense.
00:46:39
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And it's just working really well with that like spicy, sort of woody, but mostly kind of chocolate and earth of the cigar at this point.
00:46:50
Speaker
Is your cigar waking up at all for you?
00:46:55
Speaker
Is it waking up?
00:46:57
Speaker
I may have killed it.
00:46:58
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I don't know.
00:46:58
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I think I think it will never wake up again.
00:47:01
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It's just fine.
00:47:05
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I say that callously.
00:47:07
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Sorry.
00:47:08
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I think it's gotten a little bit better.
00:47:11
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It's got a little better for me, but I suspect that I did a bit of damage smoking it too fast.
00:47:16
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I think I might be smoking faster than you.
00:47:19
Speaker
Oh, wow.
00:47:19
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Look at that.
00:47:21
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I like a banana.
00:47:22
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You know, when we do this on the show next time, we both need a banana for scale, right?
00:47:27
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It's true.
00:47:28
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Colors may appear differently on people's monitors differently, especially if you're watching and you're listening.
00:47:33
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You have no idea what size banana we're holding right now.
00:47:35
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Yeah.
00:47:36
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I'm about in the last third.
00:47:38
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He's about to hit the last third.
00:47:39
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Like half an inch, quarter inch off.
00:47:42
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Quarter, yeah, about quarter.
00:47:44
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How many is that millimeters, huh?
00:47:46
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Seven.
00:47:47
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That was a guess.
00:47:48
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I have no idea.
00:47:48
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I don't know.
00:47:49
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I don't know.
00:47:51
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Rob Goodhart says, thanks for reminding me.
00:47:52
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I got a bottle of Ardbeganola kicking around here somewhere.
00:47:55
Speaker
I know.
00:47:55
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:47:56
Speaker
Great whiskey.
00:47:58
Speaker
I just finished a bottle, but I don't anymore.
00:48:01
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Yeah, we just finished about.
00:48:02
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It was fantastic.
00:48:04
Speaker
Great stuff.
00:48:05
Speaker
But again, peat is one of those things that's really cool.
00:48:07
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You don't need a whole lot of peat to satisfy people that like a little bit of peat or people that love a lot of peat still enjoy lighter peated whiskeys.
00:48:18
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There are ways to enjoy it.
00:48:19
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And that's, you know, we talk about sometimes you add a little bit of water.
00:48:22
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Yeah.
00:48:23
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Sometimes you add a little distilled water.
00:48:24
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Sometimes you add a little mineral water.
00:48:26
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It depends on kind of what mood you're in.
00:48:29
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But you can get a really great nuance pop of flavor from the peat.
00:48:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:35
Speaker
I also get like a baking spice from this whiskey, which is really interesting.
00:48:43
Speaker
Rob, LaFroigue 10 is your jam?
00:48:45
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Me too, man.
00:48:46
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That's my, I mean, it's like cigars.
00:48:50
Speaker
I don't have a go-to because there are so many that I enjoy immensely, but LaFroigue 10 is like in my
00:48:57
Speaker
top three of go-to whiskeys.
00:48:59
Speaker
It probably actually is my go-to.
00:49:02
Speaker
Which one?
00:49:03
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Laphroaig 10.
00:49:06
Speaker
Or like you were about to say, Quarter Cask.
00:49:09
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Quarter Cask is good.
00:49:10
Speaker
No.
00:49:11
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Triple Wood.
00:49:11
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That was my favorite one so far.
00:49:13
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Yeah.
00:49:14
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You know what I learned about those?
00:49:16
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Quarter cask is Lafroig 10 with an additional finish.
00:49:21
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Triplewood is quarter cask with an additional finish.
00:49:25
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Like, they're basically, at one point, all three of those are the same whiskey.
00:49:29
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Yes.
00:49:30
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And then they just keep evolving to become what they are, which is all, I mean, they're all fantastic.
00:49:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:37
Speaker
I haven't had a, I don't want to say I haven't had a bad one.
00:49:40
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I didn't care for, uh,
00:49:42
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Select, I think it was.
00:49:44
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Yeah, Select is not my jam.
00:49:47
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Too sweet.
00:49:50
Speaker
How's that English mail thing?
00:49:57
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I think it's... We're going to have to call this one No-Go.
00:50:02
Speaker
Oh?
00:50:03
Speaker
For what reason?
00:50:05
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So I think it's over hot, man.
00:50:07
Speaker
Oh, really?
00:50:09
Speaker
I've had this beer.
00:50:09
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Full disclosure, I've had this beer before.
00:50:11
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I'm familiar with it.
00:50:12
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I know it really well.
00:50:13
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I've never had it with a cigar.
00:50:15
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I mean, that's the thing about pairing with a cigar.
00:50:17
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It can completely change the drink.
00:50:21
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So I think if it was a... I'm trying to think of a beer that would fit... An English beer that would better fit... I mean, even Boddington's, I think, would fit better with this cigar.
00:50:33
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I could see Boddington's.
00:50:34
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Which is interestingly enough made by AB InBev, in case you're wondering.
00:50:38
Speaker
Oh, is it?
00:50:39
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:50:39
Speaker
I remember seeing that on there.
00:50:41
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They have, like, you can find this big, like, kind of flow chart of AB InBev, every, like, subtype of beer, and who they own in that space.
00:50:54
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Yeah.
00:50:56
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It's the Umbrella Corp map for beer.
00:50:58
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Yeah.
00:51:00
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Exactly.
00:51:02
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That's how I feel about them.
00:51:04
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan.
00:51:05
Speaker
I mean, we've talked about it over and over again, but I hate what they do to small beer companies.
00:51:14
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But I don't mind if they buy a company and suck all their blood out while they continue to make the same beer.
00:51:20
Speaker
If that's what they want to do, fine.
00:51:23
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But don't pimp their beer out until they have to shut down because you expanded them to 100 times what they were ready to do.
00:51:33
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And now there's not enough customers to buy all that.
00:51:36
Speaker
Right.
00:51:36
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Absolutely.
00:51:37
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And I think we had this conversation a couple of shows ago.
00:51:40
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Where we compared somebody like Diageo, who's on the spirits side, and then AB InBev on the beer side, and the difference of the market, the market profiles are different, the consumer base is different, just enough where the product that you're selling is approached in a different way.
00:51:58
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So maybe that's why we see them not really working as well like Diageo does with spirits.
00:52:03
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:04
Speaker
Maybe it's a business thing, and I don't know enough about it to speak about it, but just my opinion.
00:52:10
Speaker
No, but that does make sense.
00:52:14
Speaker
So you're not loving this cigar, huh?
00:52:17
Speaker
I'm not disliking it.
00:52:19
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And Ryan, in full disclosure, I think when you talk about beers especially, but really any pairing, if the pairing is not working and it coats the palate, you're kind of really... It makes both things worse, yeah.
00:52:30
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it makes both things worse.
00:52:32
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And sometimes you can't go back from that.
00:52:33
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If you've had like a weird, if you drink a weird whiskey or you drink a weird wine or something like that, and you go back to your cigar, it just changes the flavor because it's sitting on your palate.
00:52:43
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So, but I do have me.
00:52:49
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The old alternate pairing.
00:52:51
Speaker
A little bit of liquid death.
00:52:52
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I'm going to see how to put some seltzer down my gullet and see if, uh,
00:52:56
Speaker
If that cleanses, murders, if you will, if it murders that flavor.
00:53:01
Speaker
I mean, maybe they can advertise it as not just murdering thirst, but also murdering off flavor.
00:53:08
Speaker
I could Vanna White this shit all day, man.
00:53:11
Speaker
I'm like, I got cases upon cases.
00:53:13
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I can do a whole backdrop.
00:53:15
Speaker
There you go.
00:53:18
Speaker
Reach out to the media team.
00:53:20
Speaker
So I have been bombarding.
00:53:21
Speaker
I'm actually half expecting an email from Liquid Death because I get emails saying like, hey, can you review this product?
00:53:27
Speaker
You get some points, whatever, right?
00:53:28
Speaker
So you can redeem for shit.
00:53:30
Speaker
So every review that I've been doing has been an entire song, lyrics for an entire song in a different style of a band, but themed to Liquid Death.
00:53:40
Speaker
So I think I did.
00:53:41
Speaker
You have to send me some of these.
00:53:42
Speaker
That sounds amazing.
00:53:44
Speaker
I just keep saying, I'm like, hey, guys, if you ever want to just make this song, by all means, it's themed for your shit in the style of whoever, different kinds of metal bands.
00:53:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:56
Speaker
And I'm hoping they just reach out to me one day.
00:53:58
Speaker
And then we can get the sponsorship deal.
00:54:01
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Rob is saying, how are they not already sponsoring it?
00:54:03
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I don't know.
00:54:04
Speaker
I don't know.
00:54:05
Speaker
Worst case, maybe we'll make the music.
00:54:06
Speaker
You and I, you've been playing guitar.
00:54:08
Speaker
You're back at the game, right?
00:54:10
Speaker
Yeah, we can do that.
00:54:12
Speaker
I'll come up with some riffs.
00:54:14
Speaker
All right, I think I'm ready for my pairing of the night because I've gone back through while we were talking here.
00:54:19
Speaker
I'm nervously curious.
00:54:21
Speaker
I'm curiously nervous, if you will.
00:54:23
Speaker
I think you know what it's going to be.
00:54:25
Speaker
But fin du mal.
00:54:27
Speaker
This beer just goes so well with this cigar.
00:54:30
Speaker
It has that palate cleansing effect with those tiny, tiny Belgian bubbles.
00:54:36
Speaker
The little Belgian.
00:54:37
Speaker
Those tiny Belgian bubbles imported from Belgium.
00:54:42
Speaker
It's just like... I mean, you can't see it on camera, but it's still bubbling.
00:54:47
Speaker
Like... And I'm still burping, too.
00:54:51
Speaker
Somewhere in the world, Jean-Michel's whiskers just curled.
00:54:55
Speaker
Peter Janettatos.
00:54:57
Speaker
Sorry, I don't know how to pronounce your name.
00:55:00
Speaker
I know you've been watching for years.
00:55:02
Speaker
He says, what is this cigar?
00:55:03
Speaker
This cigar that we're smoking tonight is Los Statos Deluxe from a forged cigar company, a collaboration between Matt Booth
00:55:14
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and uh justin andrews from diesel um we like this cigar we're not highly impressed with it and it's not blowing our socks off um but i think it's a good solid cigar so far um we'll get back to that we'll talk about our thoughts on the cigar in a little bit um do you have a pairing of the night you had some all over the place pairings tonight or is it liquid death no i don't know well
00:55:42
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To be fair, I had the, all the beers were basically around the same more or less kind of profile.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:49
Speaker
All right.
00:55:50
Speaker
Street cart.
00:55:51
Speaker
Definitely street cart.
00:55:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:53
Speaker
I think the sweetness cuts through some of the acrid flavors that I was getting from the cigar, even post purge.
00:55:59
Speaker
And I can't tell again if that was me, you know, the way that I was smoking or if it were, if it was the other pairings that I bought that kind of ruined the flavor profile.
00:56:07
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But yeah, definitely.
00:56:09
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street cart with that snazzy label and that dude making some good food over there.
00:56:14
Speaker
Very nice.
00:56:16
Speaker
Some elote going on.
00:56:18
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that's some good artwork for sure.
00:56:22
Speaker
Yeah, it really is.
00:56:24
Speaker
Look at the paint and the butter onto that corn.
00:56:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:29
Speaker
So, definitely a cool series.
00:56:30
Speaker
If you haven't seen the kind of the mango cart spinoff series that Golden Road has been doing, check about
00:56:37
Speaker
I'm going to have to look for those because I feel like places like Walmart and stuff would have them around me because I haven't noticed Mango Cart on the shelf.
00:56:47
Speaker
I just tend to see it on tap a lot.
00:56:49
Speaker
Wait, at a Walmart?
00:56:51
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:52
Speaker
You buy beer at Walmart?
00:56:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:55
Speaker
What?
00:56:56
Speaker
You can't buy beer at Walmart?
00:56:58
Speaker
No.
00:56:59
Speaker
Well, all the Walmarts around here are super centers.
00:57:04
Speaker
So, like, it's either a super center or it's the whatever they call the grocery store one.
00:57:09
Speaker
Oh, I see.
00:57:10
Speaker
Okay.
00:57:10
Speaker
They always have, like, 80% grocery.
00:57:14
Speaker
Pretty much anything in grocery you can think about.
Beer Buying Challenges in New Jersey
00:57:21
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I miss this feeling I went to visit my family A couple weeks ago right in New York City And I stopped the car The car's full of my wife Kids It's been a long drive I stopped at a 7-Eleven I need to go get beer I want to feel it again I want to buy beer at a 7-Eleven Wait so I haven't spent a whole lot of time in Jersey Where can you buy beer in Jersey?
00:57:44
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Liquor store Only at liquor stores for beer?
00:57:47
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Yeah
00:57:48
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:57:49
Speaker
I thought Connecticut was bad, man.
00:57:52
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I grew up in Connecticut where you could not buy beer between 8 p.m.
00:57:57
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and noon or on Sundays.
00:58:01
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But at least they sold it in the grocery store.
00:58:04
Speaker
Yeah, I remember you telling me you had to go over the border.
00:58:06
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You had to go over the border to get your beers as a youngster.
00:58:08
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Yeah, we would go west of the border and drive to Brewster, New York.
00:58:13
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A lot of time to be alive, man.
00:58:14
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To buy beers at a 7-Eleven.
00:58:16
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Nobody will appreciate that, like the pain of like holding your skateboard at two o'clock in the morning, smoking your pack of Marv Reds, trying to get a beer over the border and make it home in time where nobody will notice you're gone.
00:58:30
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Exactly.
00:58:32
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Rob Goodhart asked, is it on the strength from the diesel perspective?
00:58:39
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What do you think?
00:58:39
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That's a good question.
00:58:41
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Yeah.
00:58:42
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You think so?
00:58:44
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I, uh,
00:58:45
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It's a little bit lighter than typical profile, what you would expect, but it's in that vein.
00:58:50
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I think I can notice some of those similar.
00:58:52
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Yeah, I would call this medium strength when I think diesel is usually medium full or full or full plus sometimes.
00:59:02
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Sometimes, yeah.
00:59:03
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But this is full flavor.
00:59:04
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It's got a lot of flavor to it.
00:59:06
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So it's not quite on par with the strength of some of the diesel stuff.
00:59:11
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But, you know, that depends what diesel stuff you're talking about.
00:59:13
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Because, like, I smoked the Pure Vintage the other day.
00:59:19
Speaker
Puro Vintage?
00:59:19
Speaker
Pure Vintage?
00:59:20
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I don't remember which one it is.
00:59:23
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Maybe it's Puro Vintage.
00:59:24
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I think it's Puro Vintage.
00:59:26
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But that one was, like, not diesel strong at all.
00:59:29
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Not even close.
00:59:30
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It was a good cigar, but not diesel strong.
00:59:32
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Man, I love this beer.
00:59:33
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And you could really trick me.
00:59:35
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I just noticed on the can.
00:59:38
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First of all, props for having... You can't even read it on camera.
00:59:44
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The Cervat temperatures.
00:59:45
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You'll love that.
00:59:46
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Yes, very nice.
00:59:47
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Very nice touch.
00:59:51
Speaker
Oh, can re-fermented.
00:59:53
Speaker
That's interesting to see on the can.
00:59:55
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So they ferment in the cans here.
00:59:58
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But IBUs, 19.
01:00:01
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I would guess that this was a lot higher than 19, like in the 40s.
01:00:06
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It's got a noticeable hot profile, right?
01:00:09
Speaker
But maybe that's coming from, maybe some of that bitterness comes from the orange peel.
01:00:14
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Because orange peel, grapefruit peel can add a lot of bitterness to something like this.
01:00:20
Speaker
Well, it's the pith, right?
01:00:21
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It's the quality of the pith.
01:00:22
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The astringency of the pith will come out pretty readily on a beer, especially one that sits as long as that one does.
01:00:30
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Yeah.
01:00:31
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For the full yeast cycle.
01:00:33
Speaker
Man, what a great beer.
01:00:34
Speaker
If you have not had this beer,
01:00:37
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Look for it.
01:00:39
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I can almost guarantee you can find it.
01:00:40
Speaker
I found this at a random liquor store in their cooler.
01:00:44
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In Oregon, I could buy this in a grocery store.
01:00:51
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But any liquor store with a big beer selection, especially if they have a little bit of European beer, will have this.
01:00:58
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It's fantastic.
01:01:01
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It's a world-class beer.
01:01:03
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And I'm a big fan.
01:01:06
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All right.
01:01:07
Speaker
I guess that brings us kind of to the end of the show.
01:01:10
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Anything else to add, Dennis, before we get to one for the road?
01:01:14
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Other than that beer is fantastic.
01:01:15
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No, it really is.
01:01:16
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Right.
01:01:17
Speaker
Just so good.
01:01:18
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I just I love that it's available in cans now.
01:01:20
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Cans ship better there.
01:01:24
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I mean, I guess they're better for the environment, but, you know, that's not at the top of my mind most of the time.
01:01:29
Speaker
it's got that matte finish on it too which just feels yeah it has the matte finish which is nice uh but the reason i love cans is they're way more portable i can bring a can with me i don't have to like be careful when i'm throwing it into the recycling bin uh but most importantly they keep beer fresher than bottles like you don't end up with as much uh
01:01:51
Speaker
I don't want to say skunk because I don't even know if a beer like this would skunk.
01:01:56
Speaker
No, probably not.
01:01:58
Speaker
Your beer tastes fresh for longer.
01:02:02
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And this tastes fresh as fuck.
01:02:07
Speaker
All right.
01:02:09
Speaker
My last statement is going to be I'm going to make a clone.
01:02:11
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I'm going to call it fresh as fuck.
01:02:14
Speaker
That's going to be a beer.
01:02:17
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I feel like that's probably been a beer before.
Music Recommendation and Sign-Off
01:02:19
Speaker
Probably an IPA.
01:02:20
Speaker
Ah, La Fin as fuck.
01:02:23
Speaker
There we go.
01:02:24
Speaker
Love it.
01:02:24
Speaker
Love it.
01:02:25
Speaker
All right.
01:02:26
Speaker
What is your one for the road where we talk about some kind of media we've consumed within the last week or two?
01:02:34
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So I just have been anticipating, now that we're getting into the summer, I've been really excited.
01:02:38
Speaker
I've been following this guy in the UK that produces music, and specifically he makes music that is...
01:02:46
Speaker
You remember the 80s movies, cop thrillers, the Miami cop smoking a cigarette?
01:02:50
Speaker
Oh, of course.
01:02:51
Speaker
Right, like that sound?
01:02:53
Speaker
Oh, oh.
01:02:54
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He makes that kind of music.
01:02:57
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He makes that kind of music, and he's got an album that he's been working on for the last year.
01:03:00
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It's coming out at some point this summer, and he's been kind of releasing little teasers of it.
01:03:06
Speaker
That's awesome.
01:03:07
Speaker
This guy calls himself Sunglasses Kid.
01:03:11
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And on Instagram, I think it's, let me, actually, I'll tell you exactly what it is.
01:03:15
Speaker
It's Sunglasses Kid Music on Instagram.
01:03:22
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And, man, so he puts a little blurb about what the song, each different song that he posts is.
01:03:27
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So just to give you an idea, POV, it's 1988, and you're getting paid for a massive shootout in the warehouse.
01:03:34
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For those of you that know, that grew up in that era with that kind of music, those movies, you know exactly what that sounds like.
01:03:41
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:42
Speaker
You can imagine the guitar.
01:03:44
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There's like a whining sax somewhere in the back, but it's just kind of fading out all the time.
01:03:49
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A lot of synths.
01:03:51
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the sins, the kind of like, uh, really deep bases going on.
01:03:56
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:57
Speaker
It's great.
01:03:57
Speaker
Man, I gotta check this out.
01:03:59
Speaker
Sounds awesome.
01:04:00
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He does a shitload of live shows too.
01:04:02
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Performs all over the UK doing live shows and, uh, some fun music for sure.
01:04:08
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That's awesome.
01:04:09
Speaker
I'm checking out sunglasses kid.
01:04:11
Speaker
As soon as we're off of this, um, what's yours?
01:04:14
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Uh,
01:04:15
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I was going to pick a video game and say the new DLC for Elden Ring, Shadow of the Earth Tree.
01:04:23
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But then you said new album, and I realized the new album that I've been listening to like crazy.
01:04:28
Speaker
Papa Roach.
01:04:31
Speaker
Yeah, Papa Roach.
01:04:31
Speaker
How'd you know?
01:04:32
Speaker
You serious?
01:04:33
Speaker
No, no.
01:04:34
Speaker
Oh, fuck.
01:04:35
Speaker
Not my jam.
01:04:37
Speaker
It wasn't that bad.
01:04:38
Speaker
The new album that I've been listening to that came out, I think, last week.
01:04:44
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is the new Me First and the Gimme Gimme's album.
01:04:49
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I can't remember the girl's name, but it plays someone's... All their names are like Me First and the Gimme Gimme's dot, dot, dot in drag.
01:04:59
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Actually, Aura Drag, I think is the name of that album.
01:05:01
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But this one is... They're playing a quinceanera.
01:05:03
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for a girl turning 16.
01:05:06
Speaker
And it's kind of like Johnny's Bar Mitzvah, which is one of their other albums.
01:05:15
Speaker
It's unclear whether it's a real live album or whether it's an album recorded to sound like a live album.
01:05:24
Speaker
I honestly have no idea if they actually played a girl's quinceañera and if 15 years ago they played a kid's bar mitzvah.
01:05:32
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I wouldn't be surprised, man.
01:05:34
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Exactly.
01:05:36
Speaker
Exactly.
01:05:36
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That's why I don't know.
01:05:37
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Because, like, if it was somebody else doing it, I would believe, I would be like, oh, yeah, obviously they didn't actually do that.
01:05:44
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They're just doing it as a gag for the album.
01:05:47
Speaker
In the case of Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, you really don't know.
01:05:51
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It may have been a legit, they may have actually convinced someone to let them play a quinceañera.
01:05:57
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But,
01:05:59
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It's not got as many great songs as some of their other albums, but it's got some bangers on it, as they all do.
01:06:06
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For those unfamiliar, they are a punk cover band supergroup made up from guys from four, maybe five now, different punk bands.
01:06:19
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And they all came together to make a cover cover band and they play punk covers of mostly classic songs with in this album, they have just a little bit of contemporary, which is that's cool.
01:06:33
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Very exciting.
01:06:35
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Similarly, I check that out as well and then we can change notes as we do during the week anyway.
01:06:41
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Definitely.
01:06:42
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Definitely.
01:06:43
Speaker
Rob Goodhart says he has the We Love Our Country album.
01:06:47
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That's a great one, too.
01:06:49
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They got a great cover of Jolene on there.
01:06:51
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I think that's the one with Jolene.
01:06:52
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That might have been We Are A Drag.
01:06:55
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But anyway, I don't want to get too into trying to remember what album, what song is on.
01:07:01
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Anyway, thank you everybody for watching and hanging out with us and listening to us.
01:07:07
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Big shout out.
01:07:09
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To all the people out there who gave us a follow on Facebook because they turned off our ability to live stream like this and now we were able to do it again.
01:07:20
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So shout out to all the friends and family and just Cigar Guys who helped us make that happen.
01:07:28
Speaker
We know that we're still a growing show and you're going to hit bumps like that along the road.
01:07:34
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So we appreciate you guys working with us for that.
01:07:36
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People that are not just only fans, but also friends and family.
01:07:40
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Exactly.
01:07:42
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Exactly.
01:07:43
Speaker
Well said.
01:07:44
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Seriously, though.
01:07:44
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Thank you, everybody.
01:07:46
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Yeah, we really appreciate it.
01:07:47
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It means a lot to us.
01:07:49
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We just want to hang out with you guys, smoke cigars, and pair with them every week.
01:07:55
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And we're happy to do that and provide a little entertainment and disconnect from the real world, hopefully.
01:08:02
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So thanks, everybody, for hanging out with us.
01:08:05
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And we will see you next week.
01:08:06
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And I'll, as always, let Dennis hit you with the catchphrase.
01:08:10
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Thanks, everybody.
01:08:11
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And remember, we want you to drink better, but we want you to drink less.