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Speaker: Hello? Mr. and Mrs. Cannon. I'm Deputy Chief for the U .S. Embassy. Your daughter Katie has been found.
Speaker: She's alive.
Speaker: It's very important you fully prepare yourselves for what you're about to see.
Speaker: No sudden moves.
Speaker: No loud noises.
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Speaker: Alright, we're back. Recco. We are somehow squeezing in this episode between both of our busy travel schedules here. but it And the fact that we're recording right now makes me think it's really going to happen. So good to see you.
Speaker: You know, Trav, you you mentioned ah a relative of yours who is a... Sleep. decently well -known sportscaster. And when you told me that they woke up. 4 in the morning for a 4 .30 a .m. pod.
Speaker: That gave me motivation to, uh, yeah. while being in Carmel, California. four feet from my sleeping girlfriend. Uh, to still do the pod in this small quaint inn that we're in.
Speaker: So I don't think we'll share video from this pod, but it is worth noting. that ah Rick logged on to our recording session. In a completely dark room. So you can barely see him, but from what I could make out, he is is naked from the waist up. so look i've been carmel man they they do things differently here Would make for great video content.
Speaker: Um... Rick, we're... We're talking about scary movies again. And for this week, we're going back in. for an older 2026 release that we wanted to unearth.
Speaker: and Unwrap maybe is the better unwrap better phrasing. Unwrap it. But before we get to that. Anything going on for movie news worth sharing on your end?
Speaker: No. Buddy's coming out this weekend. Very upset. Renata. covering that but we're recording before it's released so hopefully we can get to that in the next few weeks I'm hearing great things.
Speaker: Yeah, it it looks good. Very excited. I know we haven't revealed yet what movie we're covering for our dr warland episode my uh my former film professor but i am I'm getting deep into that lore of that film. oh Okay.
Speaker: Doing some research. Yeah. Good. and decrease right I purchased a... A tome. a A compendium. A two -part companion of that movie that costs $120.
Speaker: that's how knowes That's how you know it's good. Well... I've stayed at the hotel, so. That cost over $120. Does that give too much away for the movie?
Speaker: Dude, don't tell everybody we're doing Hotel Transylvania.
Speaker: Um, Yeah, only other thing worth sharing because I'm in the middle of it right now. um Buffet Infinity just got released on the Shudder streaming platform. So if you have Shudder and you like horror movies.
Speaker: halfway through and it might quite possibly be. the best horror movie I've ever seen. So horror comedy, very unique. When you say Shudder streaming platform as compared to what other Shudder is there out there?
Speaker: I don't know. But like. Your house shutters at a
Speaker: Tell me about her. Tell me about Buffet Infinity again. what Why should I watch it? it's ah The title makes me go insane. So the novelty of the movie is it's just a series of different advertisements from a small town in Alberta, Canada.
Speaker: And it's a heated rivalry between ah two restaurant owners and their ads that starts to intensify. There's some zany stuff going on in this town. Hmm. that's That's all I want to tease with because I think.
Speaker: you You have to watch it to truly appreciate it. And thus far. My appetite is... ah pretty well satiated in how good it is.
Speaker: And you finished it? I'm halfway through, so. and It might be too hot of a take, but it is very good. Watch it be the worst second half of a movie ever. It could be. It could fall off. It could fall off. it's it's a lot to sustain an entire movie just based on like 30 second to minute long ads so an hour and a half runtime while short. by traditional standards. That that might feel a little...
Speaker: Weedy. um when you think about the way they made this film are any of the companies real Like his Penske truck ads in there? No. No, no. All local businesses.
Speaker: Okay. I'm in. I'm in. Consider me in. Well. Let's turn to this week's movie. This is the Sunday Scaries. I'm Travis Tolarik. I'm Ricky Townsend.
Speaker: We have talked about this movie a lot when covering The Evil Dead. talking about our boy Lee Cronin. And so it's time that. We unearth Lee Cronin's The Mummy.
Speaker: 2026 release. Neither of us saw it in theaters. We both just watched it. Very recently. You just watched it today, right? Same day as we're recording. 15 minutes ago.
Speaker: Great. Great. great um Yeah, I watched it two days ago. but um A scary movie. Holy cow. yeah We're back to true horror. You know, we kind of flirt with it. Again, I like.
Speaker: teenage sex and death at Camp Miasma. but I was a bit misled by the horror genre tag there. in that it might be scarier. where Lee Cronin doesn't hold. back any punches here when he tries to scare.
Speaker: I think what was important... the important distinction that was made. We can finally put to rest the age -old question is... Is this... Is this the possessive? is it Is it Lee Cronin's The Mummy? Or is it the contraction? Lee Cronin is The Mummy. Well, the title card pops up.
Speaker: And it says, the. Then, Lee Cronin's. Then... Mummy. So the true titles, to me... to me, seems to be The Lee Cronin's mummy.
Speaker: And now we know. That's his mummy. It's his mummy. It's possessive. In more ways than one. I will say. Yes, Lee Cronin is not the mummy. He's not in this. Neither is Brendan Fraser. There's a lot of speculation. So much so to the point the studio had to start putting out on their Twitter feed. that Brendan Fraser is not in this film. It has no relation to the 1999 film The Mummy. Very different tone. Very different movie. I kept thinking I was going to see Ash Williams in this film.
Speaker: Yeah. there There is a recording played. I had to look up. I thought maybe it was... Same year, same year. Thought it could be our boy Ash, Bruce Campbell. sarah Sarah was attempting to watch this film with me and she made it about halfway through until things started to get super gnarly. and ah then Then I put headphones on and she was like, what's happening now? I'm like, well.
Speaker: They're trying to do a transfer between. the evil, I was trying to say the guy's name. She's like, Oh, the Necronomicon. I'm like, no, it's actually. The... Nazmanian?
Speaker: nasmania Yeah, Nazmanian. I think that's right. Like the Tasmanian devil. One of the lesser known demons. So even a light horror fan ah picked up on the Evil Dead. connections.
Speaker: But yeah, so we both watched this via streaming. Neither of us saw this in the theaters. We can talk about the theatrical run in a bit, but it's a decent... It's a Blumhouse James Wan film. At least with Juan's name attached to it. heat He...
Speaker: he can make money on his films like he is a commercially viable producer. um when he touches something. so This is another instance of that. But what's funny is that... ah What was the recent movie that instead of saying...
Speaker: James Wands. like ah brought to you by james wan it was like brought to you by the producers of obsession and back rooms. So. Is his name still? What film is that? You're right.
Speaker: I think it might have been insidious. Was it? they're just writing the hotness of obsession in back rooms to be they just like, maybe it's something to do with that movie. Get the agency team in here. We're going to change these one sheets real fast. ah These kids like obsession and back rooms, so. Out with Juan. Get the kids back in the movie theater. In with these.
Speaker: Yeah. Um... I'll give the synopsis. Yes. Eight years after her sudden disappearance in Egypt, a severely traumatized teenager is returned to her shattered family in New Mexico. triggering a visceral nightmare as they realize she is hosting an ancient demonic.
Speaker: parasite. Dude, this movie was mean. Yeah. This was a brutal. unpleasant film. Well, Lee Cronin showed us with Evil Dead Rise.
Speaker: He does not. care about. ripping apart a family unit. where it's not just the... Parents can. You know? become undead and kill people but also children or uh Fair game.
Speaker: And. He goes for it here as well, where it can be tough to watch in certain points. Yeah, I mean, it was it was like a...
Speaker: it was like evil dead without the tumor. This is like horrible things happening to to people, especially like. i one of the worst parts was Going from this exotic beautiful place in Cairo to Albuquerque, New Mexico? What a jump scare. i I still don't understand the relocation.
Speaker: He was just on assignment. They were only there were like an air they were like an Airbnb in Egypt. he was They weren't there for long. he was just now night time I was going to save this all the way for the dual knives, but there's a special agent in Cairo.
Speaker: who discovers something. And then next scene, she's like rigging the doorbell at their New Mexico house. And I still don't understand. How she traveled so quickly. If this is you know common for...
Speaker: these special agents to just travel across the globe. just based on like a hunch or a quick clue. That was... I mean, you said... Very profound. Yeah. They travel long distances. that I mean, there's films where characters travel long distances.
Speaker: I just don't understand for the sake of the film. like Why couldn't they still be? on a side in egypt i think it would have served the film just as well if they never left. Cairo. I don't understand the relocation in New Mexico. It was...
Speaker: Like... what What has stuck with me is... um It's very visceral A lot of... A lot of toenails and blood and teeth. and and skin coming off of the body like prosciutto. I was was not prepared. I was it was less sand and And more flesh. being ripped off the body.
Speaker: Um, And ah I think it's interesting because it's... It feels like people don't know what to do with this franchise. Like...
Speaker: 1932, you have the mummy of Boris Karloff and that's a huge hit. He's like ambling around trying to find his what he thinks is his long lost wife. And then you got Abbott and Costello meet the mummy in 55.
Speaker: You got Hammer Films doing The Mummy in 59. And then you they finally... like strike gold with. Brendan Fraser's The Mummy. Not Lee Cronin's The Mummy.
Speaker: with this cross -section of adventure and swashbuckling thrills. that surprisingly spawns a... Huge franchise, and now we're about to get... a legacy sequel from it. mm -hmm Um... And it was Stephen Sommers, The Mummy, although Brendan Fraser is... but we all remember from it. Right, Stephen Sommers. Why they didn't just...
Speaker: Stick in that realm. I don't know but then you have 2017's the mummy with Tom Cruise, which did you did you ever watch the trailer that was released by them by accident that had? ah only had vocal audio.
Speaker: Yep. Is that a gag or is that? No, it's real. Universal's fucked up. I have seen YouTube.
Speaker: I thought that was just a gag. I think about that trailer probably once a week. Um... That was the ill. the ill -fated dark universe that...
Speaker: got so dark you can't see it because it never happened uh with them trying to be Yeah, Quibi and the Dark Universe had the same fate. Um...
Speaker: So then like... ah It's just so curious to me. And Trav, maybe you can help explain this in production notes, because as you know, I just finished this film 15 minutes ago. I am curious. how you go from action.
Speaker: flick Tom Cruise bomb. To then... At the same time, development of two different mummy movies. one is much more back to horror.
Speaker: From an Evil Dead filmmaker. who kind of seemed like he just wanted to make an Evil Dead movie in Egypt. or originated in Egypt and then takes place in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Speaker: Because in a few months, or I guess in a year, we're going to have The Mummy 5. Right? So I'm curious what Universal's, they own the IP. Regardless, i'm I'm just curious what their...
Speaker: what their thought process was here i Yeah, that's my first question, I guess. Yeah. i I think it's interesting. Again, this is what I read. online. But apparently, like...
Speaker: You know, New Line Cinema, they're they're coming out with this film. But it's healthy. they They tap Lee Cronin to direct, and then they bring on you James Wan and Jason b Blum. as producers, as as well as Lee k Cronin as well.
Speaker: And Cronin attributes that to... James Wan saying like, Hey, well maybe you should do something new. What about like trying to make a real terrifying mummy movie? Which I guess that makes sense. But also if you bring in Blumhouse and James Wan, like clearly they wanted a scary movie. I guess James Wan's made Aquaman, but I don't think they were going for like, they brought in some horror greats here.
Speaker: And this is right after Lee k Cronin's like Evil Dead Rising, like clearly. this going to be a scarier movie. I feel like with that lineup, you don't bring in these three guys to like make a.
Speaker: you know, like a rom -com or something like that. so We'll do the mummy. but scary. Mm hmm. They won't ever believe it. yeah Yeah, um...
Speaker: I liked it. i liked i i wasn't I was intrigued by it. i it was um I wanted to know what was going to happen. i I had read that he wanted to make something that was a cross between seven and poltergeist.
Speaker: which Those are pretty heavy hitting. like masterpieces in their own right. I don't know if he achieved that. Did you see poltergeist at all in this film? I know we were just talking with ah the original insidious that there's heavy poltergeist vibes there, but.
Speaker: I read that as well. I was like, huh, poltergeist, I I don't think just because... uh terrible shit is happening in your house and there's a nuclear family involved that it it automatically makes it a poltergeist comp but i could see it like stemming from something like that. I think tonally, not at all. Um,
Speaker: The seven element of it, I thought i honestly did i did find the investigation um components. i I found those at least interesting. Like um I too was. I love a good mystery.
Speaker: kind of yeah it was there the I think the mystery was probably the highlight of the movie for me because I wanted to know what was like how did this... occur i know there's some type of cycle going on but like Protecting a demon was not my on my bingo card. So yeah.
Speaker: They got me. Yeah, I like that piece of it. i We talk about a lot of horror directors of the last decade. who are like our powerhouse guys, like ah Ari Aster. Jordan Peele.
Speaker: I think Craig is now in the conversation. Um, Eggers. Lee Cronin, he's not there, right? But... He's making, like, good horror movies. like I really liked Evil Dead Rise. I like this movie too. like He's making legit scary movies. What else has he done? so aside from These two.
Speaker: Uh... That's good. quick Did he have one other film? We probably covered this in Evil Dead Rise episode. Yeah. He did a movie called Horde.
Speaker: Ground in 2019.
Speaker: Yeah, I think i think Lee Cronin... He's at least a name. I'll give him that. I think think Evil Dead Rise is an undisputed record -setting success. And The Mummy.
Speaker: At least... fiscally, commercially speaking, did well. um I think he's a better director than writer, I would say. Like... I think he's got he's got a ah command of image that I think is interesting. This one, it was just like...
Speaker: I hate to sound like a wuss, but like it was just like a lot more brutal than I was expecting. And I was trying to eat Italian food while watching it. And I had to stop eating Italian food because. Like... ah people's throats were being pulled out and grandma's dentures are being put into a five -year -old's mouth. and It was just a lot dude. It was kind of gnarly.
Speaker: Yeah. a Yeah. eight I like that. I mean, so I think of like Juan working with, he, you know, he's kind of a mentor now for other horror directors. But I think about how he's handed off like the Conjuring universe to like Michael Chavez, who's made some of the last films. and No offense to Chavez, but They seem just like...
Speaker: you know. put in some basic elements to get another big box office turnout. but really movies they don't enjoy at all. I think Lee k Cronin's put in in a bit more effort here. There's a lot more to like. here It's just not quite at the standard of like my favorite scary movies. What do you, like what do you find? What do you see? What do you like that Lee k Cronin is doing across these two films? Like different than just your, your run of the mill, Michael Chavez, Conjuring sequel. Yeah. I mean, okay. So. For Evil Dead Rise, we've talked a lot about that. But again, going back to like...
Speaker: completely switching up the setting. He he took existing IP of the Evil Dead franchise, being the first to put it in like a high rise, like kind of slum building. um the family unit and that i i think he makes some really good scares Well, still. adhering to the the overall tone of the Evil Dead movies.
Speaker: So he navigates that tightrope of. giving us something new while still Providing a fan service or. being relevant to the IP, where does it feel like? He's he's disrespecting it.
Speaker: Here for the mummy, again, he shows us that he can create. Genuinely, like as you said, as a good director. often can some very scary moments some very intense moments i i think for like our cantaloupe award i have plenty of nominees this whole movie this whole movie is one big cantaloupe and so he knows how to make stuff that at least people will talk about i walk out of the theater maybe it's not my favorite but it's it's memorable Or like I try to think of.
Speaker: cringe -inducing moments of like the last few conjuring films i'm like i don't know it was pretty bland The scares felt cheap. Right? Yeah. um And that's with the powerhouse cast and Patrick Wilson, Vera Farmiga.
Speaker: So. Yeah. That day. continue to disparage Michael Chavez. but in ah Lee Cronin I see maybe something a little more promising. He definitely has a style, which is, you know, it's ah that's always a great sign if somebody's got a stamp.
Speaker: A signature. look that you can cross over from a film to film and like talk about look too he's you know he Goes with, like, the... ah What is it like the Mexican yellow lighting aesthetic throughout this film? Mexican yellow lighting. What is that? You've never seen like a lot of films set in Mexico.
Speaker: Hmm. They always have that yellow tint. Now this is New Mexico. Amelia Perez did not do that. Yeah, yeah that pump had a lot of issues. outside of adhering to that. normal coloring i was thinking more so um have you ever heard of a split diopter shot Oh no. no Um,
Speaker: Close -ups, split diopters. uh, visceral just violence. It seemed like he was. swinging away with Like... those things at his disposal more than anything. um like as the as the scares and the gore got ramped up um i think you really saw it's weird it's like that's what cronin that's what i That's what was transferred over, at least for me, from Evil Dead Rise. I just wish I had a bit more.
Speaker: characterization and humor. Um, to keep me. It was just like I just all I could expect was the worst thing was going to happen and usually the worst thing. the worst things did happen.
Speaker: Yeah. and then you know so I think the scares are actually pretty good here. i Maybe because I'm... the heartless like some of the more disturbing parts i could get by and say okay i appreciate that i like that in the film To be frank, I think Lee Cronin did a great job. I didn't love the cast here as much as like even Evil Dead Rise. Like Jack Raynor, you know, we've seen him in Midsommar.
Speaker: Um, He's okay. He's probably, now that I think about it, he might have been the weakest part of Midsummer. um seems like i just can't get emotionally invested with this character and he's kind of the the anchor we're supposed to have in this film of the father who's dealing with the loss of his daughter.
Speaker: but also being the first to realize like, hey, this is really hard. Something's not right. And. I don't know. His acting didn't quite sell for me. Lea Costa. Kind of same, even with the...
Speaker: Slight accent. I don't know. I honestly like the cast of the kids and the grandma more than the two parents, the two main characters in this film. I thought the young girl, the beginning was the best. actress in the whole thing. Like young Katie who played young Katie. Yeah, that was fantastic.
Speaker: ah Who was that? Emily Mitchell. i thought the ah I thought the prosthetics here were great. i thought knee. The makeup. The prosthetics. the the practical effects.
Speaker: We're. ah That's kind of what kept me. watching this because honestly when I say it's an unpleasant film I don't mean it was a bad film it was just like hard I was not in the mood. Maybe I was in the mood for something a bit more... bouncy and like funny, but also. Gory. This was just like.
Speaker: sad depressing horrific. gory and gross. It was like the lower left quadrant of like. what's pleasant and not. Yeah. But I think what kept me...
Speaker: interested was A, the mystery. like what's going Unravel the mystery of... What's happening here and how do you stop it and why? And then the The set pieces just kept getting.
Speaker: Oh. just ratchet it up each time. mm -hmm Um... All right, well. Themes? Are there any? Um...
Speaker: parents dealing with grief of losing a daughter and you know some blame being placed on either of them Yeah, like... a smattering of that. What could we have done differently? If your sister asks you to help her get undressed, just say no.
Speaker: Yeah. That's the theme. Yeah, not too theme heavy. Don't have to unpack this one as much as camp miasma. I just think, I mean...
Speaker: The themes were. work. didn't really develop into themes because uh or just something worth. I don't know reflecting about because they would just tell us. how they felt.
Speaker: mm -hmm The guilt was was brought up like the guilt kind of just they they're like, he's like, I know that you. didn't like, you blame me for this. It's like, well, we know that. You don't have this you don't have to say it, man.
Speaker: Um, i don't think yeah I don't think it's a um movie that necessarily... requires deep themes or anything like that I think it's you got your standard character motivations and Um, a plot structure that has you know, people's fears and wants and they they propel us through a a narrative. But i don't yeah, I didn't feel.
Speaker: I didn't feel very theme -y with this one. I feel like the most nuanced character is the grandma, who's like a former beauty queen, like very... ah cosmopolitan really they get katie back just wants to do her hair like give her a pedicure she She was the most fascinating character. I was like, oh, wonderful. what she was like in her earlier years. She seems fun.
Speaker: A regular Sophia Loren. Yeah. Uh... Yeah. Well, let's talk production then. newer movie so as always our notes are a little lighter here um We talked a bit about the making of here, how New Line acquired the film.
Speaker: Wanted to do something different. Taps Lee Cronin. Lee Cronin just coming out of Evil Dead Rise. turned down his chance to make a direct sequel to Evil Dead Rise, reportedly. which is funny because now we've seen that sequel. Evil Dead Burn.
Speaker: And he was still a little bit involved with it. He didn't completely let it go. That is. touch at the end of the film Listen to that pod. If you have not yet seen that movie, we can elaborate on that more.
Speaker: They bring in Cronin. They bring in Juan. They bring in Jason b Blum. And like we were saying earlier. Let's go in a new direction. Let's make it scary. And they're off to the races. And Warner Brothers got involved in this one. because typically.
Speaker: uh it just It's just a universals Universal Pictures. asset, but... ah In this case, you had co -financing and development from atomic monster and blumhouse James Wan and Mr. Blum.
Speaker: through New Line, like you said. and then um had a global distribution from Warner Brothers, which It's interesting for such for such a universal... like heavy ah IP. I just thought that was interesting.
Speaker: So the original plan... was to do a complete like creative reset after the ah seemingly awful 2017. Tom Cruise, the mummy slash ah The Dark Universe.
Speaker: And so. You have... Like you said earlier, Universal, Blumhouse, Atomic Monster. um coming in to do like a Hard R. creative reset. Uh...
Speaker: It's going to be completely standalone, everything. In late 2025. um, like while Cronin's film is actively filming. The studio landscape changed.
Speaker: You had some leadership changes happen, some management. um, like swaps. Then you have Frasier. Brendan Fraser win an Oscar. So now he's in the limelight.
Speaker: um and i'll I just think all those ah elements plus... the perpetual like nostalgia. for um the mummy just kept growing And then...
Speaker: that it gets greenlit in late 2025. And so I think that's why you see. Uh... the name change to Leak Run of the Mummy. because um it's it's It's just funny because like one company, the Universal...
Speaker: has it's such a large distribution company that like there's so many different creative arms in it that within that family you have two mummy films being made around the same time and then they have to change the name. uh,
Speaker: and then clarify that Brendan Fraser's not in it. But I think that's how why we can attribute. They can say all they want that they were trying to show this as an auteur film and say this is Lee Cronin's The Mummy because he's got a certain style and it's ah a return to horror.
Speaker: No, they just they had parallel tracks. and they were just like, we need to make sure people know that. yeah Dwayne The Rock Johnson and Rachel Weisz. Brandon Frazier, I'm going to pop up here with a torch and a cave or something.
Speaker: yeah I think you're completely right Other production note I forgot to mention in Evil Dead Rise, which is worth mentioning here, is... um Lee Cronin's mother. passed away.
Speaker: right as they finished production on Evil Dead Rise. And so he also attributes... i guess a lot of people when they go through the grieving process they can grieve differently and so kind of this thought of like losing a loved one Um,
Speaker: Peace. a lot of his driving force in making this film he attributes it to kind of like, you know when Zack Crager lost Trevor Moore he was developing weapons and he's he's had a similar sentiment for it was kind of a love love at it a love letter to Trevor Moore.
Speaker: This is how Lee Cronin honors his mother. Yeah, it's it's not the first movie I think of when it comes to like what would ah make my mom uh proud and ah in her memory but uh you know, everyone's got a mummy. so ah That's funny. Yes, everyone's got a mummy. I got you.
Speaker: Um, Apparently, like he had a phone call. about keeping his mother's fake teeth in for her wake. And so that was a big inspiration for the wake scene in this film. with ah the grandmother's fake teeth. So that was his true tribute to his mom. Wow, that's insane. because ah the The movie kind of didn't lose me, but I was just like, okay, this is so depraved.
Speaker: At that scene, which I'm sure we will discuss here shortly. And so the fact that that's tied into his own mother's death in some way, you know what? I can't really knock it. All of us... Horror fans grieve differently. We all...
Speaker: Have a... Yeah. Different ways of looking at the world. so Lee Cronin, you keep... You keep getting out there, man. Whatever whatever gets your closure, I guess. um What else on production? So we talked about Lee Cronin directs and writes this. We've talked about the producers.
Speaker: Anyone else on the crew you want to give a shout out to? I mean, I got my scream queen or quit king towards the end, but... ah i didn't recognize anybody in these movies um i didn't recognize anybody in this movie On the cast?
Speaker: ah I mean, the what's his face? Jack Rayner. Jack Rainer from Midsommar, and then The Magician. What was what has she been in? The mom. I am. She's in something else. I remember looking at it up.
Speaker: Oh, she's in Murder on the Orient Express. Oh, she's in a lot of Your Guy, Kenneth. Oh, Sir Kenneth Branagh. He's in a lot of his films, for like Death on the Nile, Murder on the Orient Express.
Speaker: I'll shoot him a text and be like, hey. Yeah. Your girl's an evil magician. Nice. hello Um... But yeah, ah we talked about Lea Costa. uh me Kalamaui.
Speaker: True Egyptian hair playing detective. Could use some calamari right now. Hungry. Natalie Grace plays the older mummified version of Katie Cannon.
Speaker: Shiloh Molina plays the brother, Sebastian. billy roy plays yeah am i supposed to know these people Nope. I don't know anyone. Veronica Falcone. plays. The best named character in this film, did you see what her name is?
Speaker: Mm -mm. Carmen Santiago. Herman Santiago. Carmen Santiago, as in where in the world is. A whale's vagina.
Speaker: you You know Carmen Sandiego, though, right? Yes, of course. But do you know a whale's vagina? Yes, but it's just weird to go with the Anchorman reference as opposed to... I'm just always thinking one step ahead. The world is Carmen Sandiego.
Speaker: I think car you know we talked a lot about last episode. Last episode in Camp Miasma, what was everybody's sexual awakening? Nobody ever asked me in that episode what mine was, but I think mine was Carmen Sandiego. Wow.
Speaker: She's mysterious, wears red. I don't know. She travels a lot. She looks like she would be good. Partner to the Man in Yellow from Curious George.
Speaker: They both wear a similar style hat. She wears like all red, he wears all yellow. I don't know if I know the man in yellow. The man in the yellow hat? I don't i know the man in the yellow hat from Curious George.
Speaker: I know George. i know I was more curious about George than anybody else. Amen. Okay. Our jokes are not hidden tonight. Sign of how late we're recording this.
Speaker: Um, Okay, we talked about cast. Box office. Budget. Um, A decent budget here. This is a $22 million dollars budget, but...
Speaker: Paid it back in spades. Made over $90 million worldwide at the box office. That's a good budget yeah ah I think under 30 million for a... effects heavy horror film.
Speaker: With which seems like it was filmed on location, I would assume in partially in Cairo. Uh, If they didn't, they fooled me. I thought that's that's actually a pretty area very reasonable budget. I think a lot of the horror movies we cover...
Speaker: if it's not sinners or like the 28 years later movies like a lot of these are like 25 million or under, I think, budget -wise. How much was back rooms? The backers is 10 Okay, yeah.
Speaker: We've been covering a lot of cheaper cheaper movies recently. I bet you Buffet Infinity had a pretty low budget. man you're really riding for buffet infinity it's really good Maybe I'll turn it on after this. but We could do a mid. mid ah episode We can barely get them out every week, Trav. I don't know if we can do a midweek. Um...
Speaker: Yeah. So... Again. as As what often happens when Juan's atomic monster gets involved with the movie, they make it a commercial success. No exception here. Good job, guys. Way to go.
Speaker: Ugh. All right, should we move to our awards, get into spoiler territory, start talking about how depraved this film is? Let's spoil the shit out of it. uh, scarometer. This could be fun. This is a scary movie.
Speaker: On the count of three. Yeah. One. one Two. Two. Three. Three. Seven. Six five.
Speaker: Six five. Pretty close. right let's do I was almost at a 7, but I recently gave Insidious a 7, and I thought Insidious was just only slightly scarier than this. which is why I had to give this one a six.
Speaker: That's fair. Okay, so this is a 6 .5. Mm hmm. No, not Stephen Sommers, the mummy. Not. Alex Kurtzman's 2017 The Mummy. We need Lee. We need the Lee Cronin's mummy.
Speaker: Alright. Keeper, Evil Dead Rise. The Conjuring Last Rites. Oh. Look at Lee k Cronin making two 6 .5s for us. And I wish I had a 6 .5.
Speaker: What? Nothing. um Oh. I... I... I think... ah I think... This might have been scarier than all these.
Speaker: I mean, you you would disagree because you put it at six, so... Yeah, I thought keep was Keeper the lowest? on that list for us? I thought Keeper was actually this. scariest out of that lot.
Speaker: um I'm fine putting it either right above or like. Honestly, above or below Evil Dead Rise. I think this is scarier than Evil Dead Rise. Evil Dead Rise, yep. I'm Matthew.
Speaker: Alright, so right above it. Six and a half. inches I mean points. Trav did six. Ricky did seven, so that's the scale.
Speaker: all right Um... Alright. All right. highlights I... I thought the ah the funeral scene was... Insane.
Speaker: Yeah. I it's both a low light and a highlight for me because I had to just remove all like care for the characters because they were just so comically being it started off as like this.
Speaker: this tragic story of, of ah A family whose daughter is... is kidnapped and then returned to them but she's different she's can't speak she's contorted she's lashing out And. There's a, you know, I think what Hereditary does amazingly is is they take the...
Speaker: The family. trauma. and family strife and turn it into a horror film and extract. Astros was able to extract the horrific elements of...
Speaker: ah grief and loss within a family. And in this case, I was on that train, and when the funeral scene happened, I was like, okay, so this is just... We're just going there. This is more. What can we do? How extreme can we go? And so you have a number of things happen here. Mod is already. ah ah infected or possessed by this.
Speaker: for primary demon. And to your point you just made, so not to interrupt you, but... Yeah. I think that's what makes this film. tougher for me to grapple with because it's Very heavy hitting already.
Speaker: emotionally. knowing that they've lost a daughter and what they've created and returned to eight years later is is really not their daughter. Like that would be hard enough. If that was it.
Speaker: But then you find out they're... now younger daughter, right the baby they had right when Katie was abducted. has also been turned. And it's at the same point that Sebastian, their older or their son, is now getting dragged into it as well. And well like well this is after grandma died, right? This is all during a funeral for the matriarch. Yeah. and um It's just a.
Speaker: It's a. A terror of errors instead of a comedy of errors, you have. uh mod ripping her teeth out she's like a cute five -year -old little girl five or six right maybe Maybe seven. Ripping grannies dentures out.
Speaker: I think she's eight. right If it was eight years later, she was just born. Or maybe seven and a half. So she hawks up some blood on the deviled eggs, which funny that they were deviled eggs. I thought that was a nice touch. Yes, I had that in my notes.
Speaker: Um, Then you have... Uh... Katie. crawling like scratching through the ceiling through like a wet kind of rotted.
Speaker: Uh... Part of the floor that I don't know how she created that. ah I don't know either. I never really explained. There's just that wet patch under the carpet. Yeah. and Sarah had thought she had just like been urinating in that corner like a little dog.
Speaker: um It takes a lot of urine to soak through. Some two by fours. She's coming through the ceiling. Maude is wreaking havoc.
Speaker: spitting blood everywhere. uh Then Katie - Then just bites a guy's neck. Yes she does and then Katie jumps in to the casket. To then rip out part of the neck of the grandma and then the neck is like pulsating. Why was it pulsating? Do you know why?
Speaker: why was that happening i think it was like the embalming fluid you pump a dead body with Like the formaldehyde. And that was. Coming out. Right. And then... ah ah During all this chaos and everyone's...
Speaker: People are vomiting as they're seeing this happen. And then the the grossest thing in the movie. When. The grandma is the abuelita. is on the ground, her dead carcass is there, and she's...
Speaker: ah A lot of fluids are emitting from her neck and like... uh like chunky fluids, like things that are blood and embalming and like. um muscle tissue and Katie is just lapping it up off the floor.
Speaker: Like... Fucking freak. And so... um And then ah this ends, the whole scene ends with Maude going up and smiling at her parents, and she has put the dentures of her...
Speaker: grandma, her Yeah, or grandma in her mouth. And. um At that point, I... I was a little relieved because I was able to like see everybody as cartoon characters more so than like these grief -stricken family members. Yeah, you have to disconnect at that point.
Speaker: Yeah, but it was entertaining for sure. Is that the point where Sarah was like, this is too much for me? Thankfully, it happened shortly before. It was when the possession started to get. Oh, she didn't even make it to the wake. Oh, no. No. okay No, Sarah was out when Like.
Speaker: Katie had not even left her bed at that point. it's It's when the double, triple -tracked audio started coming in, like, hello. I'm Katie. And... Yeah. What about you? Highlight for you. Yeah, that's help that was probably mine as well. the The wake set piece is the best, but I'll...
Speaker: a very small piece of the film Which is just like... What the hell are we going for here is when ah Katie first entices. mod it's the middle of the night mod has to wake up to go to the bathroom and this is where it's still really sad because they have we haven't gone to the wake set piece yet You're like, oh, God, no, not mod two.
Speaker: And you can hear like Katie calling out to her and like her sing song. voice of old. And she entices Maude to come to her door. And when Maude's standing right in front of her door...
Speaker: Katie's voice suddenly changes like to the demonic when she talks about, I just want to see how those little piggies taste. And then you see a long tongue come out from under the door to lick her toes. And I was like, oh, no. dude that was That's where Evil Dead was... ah Alive and well.
Speaker: happening in this movie yeah and you said there's no humor i mean at that point but the demonic your voice right especially when katie goes demonic tone she's saying kind of lewd evil dead akin phrasing as as do the other characters when they get possessed or taken over And sometimes it's almost slapstick or funny.
Speaker: and how crass it is and what their actions and what they're saying. Yeah, it gets there. but it ah It. It had to happen a few times for me to really like let it. land that like oh this there's funny things happening because it's so dark this movie is so dark and gross And then now we're going to be licking toes. Okay.
Speaker: yeah But yes, that was a great part. Do you know how long your tongue would have to be? Delay your head. at the bottom of a door and extend your tongue.
Speaker: Beneath the door and still have it come out the other side but like two to three inches. I don't Like the. freakishly long 6 .5 About 6 .5.
Speaker: Just about.
Speaker: Um... Yeah. I think the white scene was my favorite part of the film. Yeah. Me too. Um, All right, well, let's go to scares. I wasn't great at capturing my favorite jump scare, which is silly because my list of cantaloupe award nominees is... a mile long.
Speaker: um What about jump scares? And maybe that's a credit to Lee Cronin. Usually I feel like it's... easier to create a jump scare in a horror film. than it is to... put those cringe -inducing scenes that can define horror in it. to that That requires more art, more tact, I think.
Speaker: And this film leans a lot more heavily on those than it does. jump scares. Um, I had two moments. um It... One was, I'll just mention the one of them. um The headbutting of the grandma, I knew that that was something that was going to happen. I just didn't know how it was going to happen.
Speaker: I was expecting like a choking or slashing. I wasn't expecting a brute force headbutt. Pleasantly surprised. And what was the other?
Speaker: The other was when... i I wrote down spittle jump scare, which means I think somebody at some point spit up. Blood. Like... It came out of their mouth out of nowhere. Well, Kitty, with their...
Speaker: Talking to her and about how like pretty she used to be. This is right after they got her home. She like spits on her mom Like Hawk's a big bloody loogie on her face. Yeah. And it was kind of out of nowhere. So I'm assuming that was the moment.
Speaker: Yeah. this more The scares for me was more so from the unpleasantness and like... Boop. The... gross effects and like how sad everything is. um it wasn't It wasn't like a jump scare machine by any means.
Speaker: Well, then let's move to the more fun award, which is our cantaloupe award most cringe -inducing scene What do you have? Oh my God. Uh... it dude It had to be the toenails to shin splints. Yeah, the pic the pedicure and...
Speaker: The hair brushing as well, you see. Carmen Santiago pulling away the brush and it's just like... yeah Huge chunks of hair. What? What was going on with that toenail clipping? Like those things were.
Speaker: Thick and hard to cut through with those nail clippers. Eight years, man. Eight years in a sarcophagus? Do you do that with toenail clippers that were the mom? She wasn't just clipping. She was like... hugging on the nail, which is... i've I've never clipped nails with that technique, at least.
Speaker: Yeah, I wouldn't have said that was would have been my... ah go -to technique. But considering the circumstances, I don't really blame her. I'll tell you what I was not expecting was for The toenail. to come off, but also the top of her toe and the top of her foot. And then the skin on her shin. to be one big long so like prosciutto. prosutos like It was like a prosciutto fruit by the foot.
Speaker: I was ready for the full nail to get ripped off. I was braced for that. So when it just kept going, I was like, Oh no. yeah that was they just put a little gauze on that they're like yeah that should heal nicely That was nuts. ah yeah and up to that point i was actively being like oh my god stop stop we've had two Two pedicure scenes in the last two years, ugly stepsister in this one. Huzzah.
Speaker: some nice little Yeah. Nice little set pieces. um I think that's probably my winner, error but there's a lot of honorable mentions here. we We talked about the tongue under the door.
Speaker: The, um... The mummification video. where they actually watch the VHS tape. That was really hard to watch because the detective. It subjects the parents to being like, you need to watch this, which is a...
Speaker: Very very questionable. Very questionable. How traumatic is that to be like, we need to show you what happened to your daughter. um And it's it's horrifying. It's, you know.
Speaker: She probably could have conveyed. via bullet points the the details without actually making them watch the film but It makes for a better scary movie, I guess.
Speaker: for us as the viewers than to be able to watch it. That's where this movie gets like totally confused because. That's like a heart wrenching scene. And then you have like... Katie walking around doing like evil dead one liners later.
Speaker: it was It just didn't feel as consistent as I think I would have liked it to be. but Um, well I was happy to see what the the visual. record of what happened.
Speaker: um I was very impressed with their ah synchronized vomiting. That was... Well, I think it was the mummy vomiting into her mouth.
Speaker: She wasn't also vomiting into the mummy's mouth. Sorry. like either I don't think so but either way it takes two to tango when you're you know You would know, Trav. It's an impressive vomit. I mean...
Speaker: But think about the amount of... Force. And the velocity of that puke, if you are laying on your back. to like To like projectile bomb it up by like a foot.
Speaker: Like, tub girl. Kind of. First. Tubgirl. Google Tub Girl. You'll see it's a... Someone who's doing projectile.
Speaker: Gross things. Is is is this the pod I need to let my father -in -law listen to again? It's a meme. ah and it the the the projectile fluid that tub girl is able to.
Speaker: expel from her body. was very reminiscent of Uh... The black. sludge that's coming out of the Nazmanian's mouth.
Speaker: It's worth looking at. I've not seen Tub Girl. I will bring up. We've had a lot of vomiting into mouths this year, like send help. That's probably the one of the most cringy scenes from that movie. Can't be kink shaming here.
Speaker: I'm just saying, like we you have trends every year. Last year, It was ah framing people for peeing their pants. We had multiple horror films. What was the second? who would Bring Her Back was the main one. What was the other one?
Speaker: The Rule Jenny Penn Fantastic. Have you seen that one yet? No, I haven't seen it yet. A lot of framing people for peeing their pants. And this year, I think it's just bobbing into other people's mouths.
Speaker: What a world we live in. Can't wait until next year. Who knows what 2027 is going to have in store. Um, But yeah. I mean...
Speaker: There's a lot of other scenes we're not messing. The entire wake scene is also, you know. can be nominated for this award as well. Yeah. Um... All right, deep cuts. Oh, and Bod pulling out her teeth.
Speaker: How can we forget? Poor little mullet pulls out each of her teeth individually. i have I have thoughts about mods. ah real life parents and their decision to cast her in this movie.
Speaker: um I will say this. So Wesley, our oldest daughter. she lost her first tooth a little over a month ago about a month ago And it was her first experience with the tooth fairy.
Speaker: And it was very... uh endearing very heartwarming Because, you know, we're we're worried, like, can she be freaked out about this? But it's such a positive experience, maybe too much so. Because when our second tooth was loose about two weeks ago It was loose, but not ready to go.
Speaker: In my... Five -year -old daughter. Just yanked that tooth out of her mouth because she knew the reward of having the tooth fairy come and visit and leave her some money under her pillow was near and she didn't want to wait. Ambition. It was so funny because late at night and she comes running into our bedroom and she has blood. all over her chin.
Speaker: like dripping down her face and she's just holding up the tooth so proud of it and so That was relatable, watching Maude pull out her teeth. in this film. There's some symbolism there.
Speaker: blood coming out of their mouth. Fortunately, Wesley stopped out. Only one tooth. She didn't go for the whole mouth. She didn't reach for Anna's dentures.
Speaker: Yeah. Um, Deep cuts. I had a few. um Loved the ah the Critter poster, 1986 Creature Feature movie.
Speaker: um babe? Babe, I saw that as well. I was like... Babe? Is this time appropriate? Is this - Was this a 90s film? Was this a period piece? Like what kid today? has a babe poster in their room. Yeah, because even when she was... ah Eight years of eight years old or when she was like five or whatever Babe was still like.
Speaker: 20 years before that. Yes, babe was our childhood. maybe she's got taste man maybe she's like one one step away from the criterion closet it's funny i reach back for older films i watched as a kid for my girls to watch but it's mainly disney animated films I've never once thought of you know.
Speaker: pop I don't even know where I can stream, babe. Do you remember who made Babe? I don't know where to find that George Miller. ah Of. of 300. No, that's Frank Miller. George Miller did Mad Max. Oh, yes. Oh, but still a wall of filmography. um He co -wrote and produced the first Babe, and then he directed the sequel, Babe, Pig in the City. ah This is the guy who goes from Mad Max to Happy Feet.
Speaker: to 3 ,000 years of longing to babe. like he's He's got range, man. Okay. um um Yes, I saw the big poster. I really liked the... um the needle drop as we go from...
Speaker: Uh... Plane crash. And Katie's sarcophagus being discovered. to the family now, eight years later in New Mexico. And it's just playing blinded by the light as they like drive up to the food truck by journey. I like is that because when you open a sarcophagus, it's like really bright and your eyes probably hurt. Oh, yeah. Maybe there's meaning there. I just.
Speaker: I like the you cut from a scary scene to a... Sunny day, upbeat music. You you see this done in horror films. I think the best to do it was still Barbarian. um when they when they do that cut from maybe the scariest scene of the film to Justin Long. like cruising along Highway 1 in his little red Miata.
Speaker: Um, Speaking about songs, I liked the, I had never heard this before, but the song s Sick Bro. by car. where the car at the chorus goes I'm fucking sick bro Don't be a dick bro.
Speaker: Hmm. And starts off the song saying, I'm. I'm kind of hot and I got double D's, a sense of humor and a really cute dog. I'm pretty sweet when I'm down on my knees. so you know I've got a really big heart.
Speaker: When did the song play in the movie? I don't remember this. ah it's I think this is the... the The boy is listening to it. Oh, yes, when he pops his headphones on. yeah Fucking sick, bro.
Speaker: Don't be a dick, bro. I just like Irish Lee Cronin trying to figure out what a teenager would be listening to. 2026. this We didn't mention this in production notes, but do you know they did a lot of the filming in Ireland?
Speaker: They split between Spain, which i gives I think gives us more of those. Cairo desert scenes. Yeah. because It gives us our folk Cairo as well as Albuquerque. That's how they pretend to be in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Speaker: But then I think a lot of the interior scenes were... Ireland. Good job staying bringing bringing bringing work back to his home. Mm hmm. What else did I have for deep cuts? Oh. ah the one of the first I think the first line... if if not maybe the second or third of... ah of Charlie Cannon, which. Great name. like with porn cast, you'd be a porn star, a newscaster, an actor, just Charlie Cannon.
Speaker: let's see Great name. um He says to his daughter when they're trying to practice the Morse code. You got this all wrapped up! which I thought was a nice touch. Ah.
Speaker: Look at that. Just being cheeky. Yeah. Um... And then we've talked about this at nauseam, but like the connections to evil dead that he changes it from a zombie movie. to a possession movie.
Speaker: There's a 1923 recording. from an, uh, a tape player that sounds a lot like the one in Evil Dead Rise, which is also from 1923, which is funny. um A lot of vomit here.
Speaker: And then. Yeah, you're you're you're enclosed and in a... in a house with people you love and everybody's turning into monsters it's it's yeah very i i can i can see you finally see why people like include this in the unofficial Evil Dead canon?
Speaker: When the grandma... is possessed and she wakes up. To Charlie. And she looks like a straight dead eye, like standing up over her casket.
Speaker: And she exposes her leg and she says something like, do you want to taste it? I'm like, straight dead. I talk right now. Like this, yeah this could be. a clip from any Evil Dead film. I think I'm in the camp that this is not a good mummy movie. but it... is a good Evil Dead movie. So does that mean our bar for mummy movies is higher than Evil Dead movies?
Speaker: i think I think an Evil Dead movie knows what it is. And if you include a bit more humor in this, it it would strike that great. the perfect tone. But. I see what people are saying now when they when they say that.
Speaker: all right uh best death cannon fodder you want to start with cannon fodder Yeah, Cannon fodder had to be the dad in the beginning. who just Yeah, that's what I have. He's trying to help his baddie of a magician wife dig up some old bones. What happened to him?
Speaker: Did the mummy like suddenly reach out and just impale him on one of those hooks that are meant to open the sarcophagus? We can see later in the movie that... they can move things with their mind. And so I think. that he just caused that hook or whatever those things are to just lodged itself in his mouth.
Speaker: And. He got pulled up and he was. kicking and screaming. He did not look happy, but. a It seemed like that that that ne the the death is not very consequential. It's just kind of a cool.
Speaker: gruesome Yep. like you just for horror films if you're making a scary horror film you have to have an opening scene death I feel like these days that's the ah That's the...
Speaker: you know the buy -in for making a horror film these days if you want to be true these days i mean they mean they've been doing that since like the 80s yeah Cold opens. These days. the as many decades i'd as we've as these days the days of the days of film from 1920 to the 2020s um Yeah, that was my cannon fodder. I just I thought that was.
Speaker: That was mine too. Gratuitous and fun. Mm hmm. Best death. I feel like this was a no -brainer. Yeah. It's the grandma, right? Yeah. She goes through a lot, man. Well, tell us what she goes through. She because she physically goes through. so pain She gets... Headbutted and attacked.
Speaker: Bye, Katie. Then she gets hung. by her cross necklace. Then she gets tossed out the window from a second story. And if that's not enough, she lands on the hood of the car.
Speaker: Falls off the hood of the car. after smashing her face on the windshield and just gets torn apart by wolves which they for not even not even wolves they looked like wolves those were wolves those were not coyotes Those are the biggest fucking coyotes I've ever seen. Usually it's the other way around. They'll, they'll try to fake coyotes for wolves. But in this case, yeah, I i thought the same because I paused it. My, my, yeah I'm on a vacation and. NorCal of my parents and Sarah. and
Speaker: my parents Like, knocked on the door to... bring some food back or something because I had to was watching the movie and uh So I paused it. So go say hi to them. And I came back to the screen. I'm like,
Speaker: They were just talking about coyotes, but these look like fucking wolves. I've i've seen many coyotes. thought I was like, okay, yes, coyotes are in New Mexico. But the animals you brought in to film this are not coyotes. for Right. I mean, they're CGI. I don't know if they brought in any animals, but.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. RIP, Carmen Santiago. She really goes through the blender. I want to know who the... ah The mortician was, or the embalmer who made her look so great. He did great work. He did fantastic work. Great work. All right, so we talked about death.
Speaker: What do we got? Stephen King twist or sorry. Stephen King. It's down late. Him night Shyamalan twist. ah Um... Had I not heard so much about this movie ahead of time, I probably would have been very surprised by the demonic twist that this was about sheltering a demon versus like.
Speaker: you know King Tut. ah So that's that's a... Don't stop it. That's a twist. Like. The whole premise is wrong footed. by what you know about mummies and it's something else.
Speaker: Yeah, not a huge twist here. Maybe the fact that the magician gets shot through the chest. And then, you know, our last scene in the movie, she's still alive. Yeah, interesting. Interesting choice. know that That last scene almost felt added on.
Speaker: like Yeah, I don't know if I liked it. yeah it just seemed like now they're like team mummy like we figured out how to control the monster if we're bringing in dad to pass the possession on to you.
Speaker: It is funny. Sarah asked me a ah great question. She was like, Do. most horror movies have a happy ending or a sad or a sad ending and i was like honestly it's like 50 50 like if the ones with good social commentary
Speaker: often have sad endings because they're trying to prove a point politically or something about the nature of the world and why things should change but then there's other movies that are like more revenge focused or like you just got to give somebody a break and they'll end happily because you just want them to be okay or you want Then you want the sequel to. to torture them again.
Speaker: And. In this case, I thought it was going to be super sad and then ended up being kind of redeeming but it was like weirdly happy like even katie's looking fine after eight years of being a mummy like she's just a kid again they're playing like chutes and ladders or something Yeah. She's like way too old for that board game. by that time Dude, she's got some catching up to do. Come on. just Make it up for lost time. It's been eight years. Yeah.
Speaker: Uh, So for such a. morbidly depressing movie he tried to find like a light -hearted note to end the film on which was it did feel a little out of place Yeah, they became like the...
Speaker: the Warrens of mummification.
Speaker: Um... The detective just willingly. working with them as well. Yeah, might as well. Uh... ah Don't go in there.
Speaker: Mine, I don't want to say mine because it's tied to a dull knife that I have. that I would love for you to unpack for me. So I'm going to withhold. Do you have any do you have any that you can share? Yeah, mine I touched on this already, but don't show the parents that VHS tape.
Speaker: like no Yeah, that's good. That's a good one. would ever be liked Travel from Cairo. to the U .S. on a whim to be like... This is really fucked up. You guys got to watch this right now. guys gotta This is horrible. You got to see it. I don't want to be the only one who's seen it.
Speaker: Yeah. I'm going to die in seven days unless somebody else watches it. Please. Let's just watch it. And it has the weird like it tries to be more serious by them like pausing it. And the dad being like, no, no.
Speaker: Let it go on. We need to see this. We need to watch. Let the boy watch. Exactly. No. I think that brings us to dual knives.
Speaker: ah best line but I think Best Lines. Oh, Best Lines. Best Lines. Yes. My favorite line on the movie. Is when. Katie is trying to entice Maude.
Speaker: to play with her through the door. And she goes, She's like... I can talk now. And Maude's like, holy shit, I'll tell mom.
Speaker: I do like that. And they said, no, no, no, no. Tell her I wanted to be a surprise. yeah She's like, I like you the most. And then Maude hits her back with, but you don't even know me. Yeah. there was some humor in this looking back on it yeah when right before she kills grandma But she's hanging her by her own cross necklace.
Speaker: She goes, ah Don't worry, Grandma. It's fun to be dead. Yeah, that was very... ah Very evil dead. Yes. Man, we'd even mentioned too from ah Evil Dead Rise, he brought back... um From Evil Dead Rise, Lee Cronin brings back Lily Sullivan.
Speaker: She's in this film. Makes a brief cameo as the teacher. That's Lily Sullivan? Yeah. Lily Sullivan is the youngest sister. Yeah. Think about the audio.
Speaker: Okay, how how's it now? I like how you bring up like once you're like, Travis, I heard your keyboard clack. And meanwhile, you're just... Opening Tupperware, eating chicken piccata. Well, there's Bolognese, too. so Okay.
Speaker: Um, Yeah, any other lines worth sharing? You said fuck. Yes, that was good as well. Okay. There's some comedy, you know, that you take time to digest and think about it.
Speaker: He's digesting. Digesting my chicken piccata. Yeah. All right. Uh, nice. I have to ask you, me and Sarah, we both were like, we have to ask Travis about this.
Speaker: What kind of house... Has like a running attic. in the walls that is like a separate house inside the house, like hallways of attics. What is that? Is that real?
Speaker: That's a great point. You see this sometimes in movies where I've always been like. Today. when you're framing a home you're you're using like two by fours and usually putting those against the exterior walls.
Speaker: So you have. you know. by nature. like four inches in fact two by fours today are even thinner than that so you have like three and a half inches between probably your drywall.
Speaker: in the exterior wall. And I don't understand these homes where they're like, no, there's like. three four feet wide spaces so this is way more than you need for like insulation what's What's the point of that space? I don't know So these things these things exist.
Speaker: Good. Hollywood has showed us that. Not any of the homes I've been selling out here in Colorado, but maybe. Let's go see, sir. like 1900 and newer homes. Yeah. I mean, the only two things I could think of was, yeah, installation and then...
Speaker: like more attic space instead of like one room it's like the entire out like line of your house Yeah, it's it's a good question. Um, that was mix calling set him up but there was, there was a lot of house.
Speaker: hidden behind the walls. because they're Those chasings through there, they they were running ah hundreds of yards, it felt like. Yeah, there was a lot to do, a lot of real estate within the real estate. Um, So from the very top of this film, I was confused because we're introduced at the very start of it to the magician's family.
Speaker: and her daughter, Layla. And they come home. And Layla realizes her bird's dead. I'm just very confused. The mom says, like I can fix this.
Speaker: So it's like their hope is the whole catalyst for why the mummy wakes up why this starts is because the mom was going to like Try to use the mummy to revive the dead bird? I don't understand that at all for why they had to go back to open the casket on the mummy. It all starts with the bird.
Speaker: Um... I you'd have to remind me that. the sequencing of how things happen because I'm wondering if That was just to show that she believes she has special powers.
Speaker: Like I can fix that for you like I can bring somebody back from the dead So maybe that. The idea. that she can bring something back from the dead. Makes you think if you're in a mummy movie, she's going to try to reanimate.
Speaker: A mummified corpse? But there was never... any other instance of trying to revive someone right like the mummy itself is somewhat immortal i know i'm gonna try to pass the demon to the bird.
Speaker: I'm saying it um it might have been an intentional misdirect by Lee Cronin to make us think that her power is to like. reanimate people bring them back from the dead and would we get something completely different.
Speaker: I don't know. It's a weird choice. I'm i'm just trying to grasp for straws here, of like why they might have put that in there. Yeah. i I just don't understand the motivation for why they had to take the bird back. And that's our first introduction to like. They're. home in Cairo with what the tip of a pyramid.
Speaker: They're just living on top of an old pyramid with a mummy buried beneath it. Petey bird. Tweety bird. All I want to crack her? I have more. I'm sure you do as well.
Speaker: You know my pet parakeet, Petey? Hmm. His head fell off. You think it was a Dumb and Dumber reference? Yeah, he's getting pretty old.
Speaker: Um, One of the bigger dull knives I had was... So... Mod... Maude like floats.
Speaker: And then her eyes roll the back of her head. But like. The parents never figure this out? She never says anything. Is she that? like that possessed where she just says she's not going to run back to mom and dad and say hey some weird and my toes just got licked
Speaker: Like she's just going back to bed, I guess. Yeah, I think Katie just like fully takes over them by that point. okay None of their actions are their own. well then You can tell Maud's demeanor completely changes. Right. To your point, the parents don't pick up on anything until it's too late. but Another one of like it just felt this was this is a lot more egregious. ah A non -reaction was super weird.
Speaker: Charlie watches his daughter in her wheelchair float in the air. And he says, and he's like. It's just normal for him. He's like, whoa. And then he's downstairs like hanging out watching this VHS, just like, hey, Cairo lady, welcome in. like There's no reaction to a supernatural event happening. I completely missed that, the sequencing there. Yeah. They've seen clearly.
Speaker: i mean i guess at this point he's just fully bought into like she's a demon It's not like, well, let's... Let's go to the tape. Gotta watch some tape on this, figure out how this works. Let's do a replay.
Speaker: Yeah. Um, Okay, I have... when they bring katie home their daughter they haven't seen in eight years she's wheelchair bound because she doesn't have the muscle and i know what you're gonna say faculties to actually take care of herself and they're like let's get her upstairs and they decide to drag her up the stairs so but in her wheelchair
Speaker: Sarah was like is just such a long sequence of like, you you could have separately carried both her and the wheelchair up there. Sarah's like, maybe. I guess maybe she's she's like too weak to be held. Like she'd have to do her work and then we see them carry her to the bed. Like they could have done that the whole time. Yep.
Speaker: Um, And then ah my my biggest one though, I have to. talk about which you briefly brought up. Grandma, Carmen Santiago. A horribly violent death.
Speaker: in getting, you know, her face. Fucked up by Katie getting. Han. getting tossed out a window like broken bones and then getting disemboweled by a bunch of coyotes That's certainly a Bold choice going with an open casket for the ah for the wake there.
Speaker: We'll show them. Nothing can get us down. You don't have to do open casket. So I was but like so surprised. Some Undertaker was...
Speaker: or What do you call them? Is it a mortician? It's a mortician. Mortician, yeah, I think, yeah. They had the LeBron James of morticians in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Really? Seriously. That guy was flexing his stuff. He did a great job.
Speaker: Great job on Grandma. What did they pull out of her mouth when they were like, she's methadone? Was it like... What was the string in her mouth that they were pulling out? Oh yeah.
Speaker: A hair. I don't know. He was not a perfect job, I guess Yeah. um All right, I got some winners for you, unless you have more dull knives. Yeah, I'm sure I have more, but those were... Those were the biggest ones I wanted to cover.
Speaker: Oh, I have one more actually. Um, So Katie is possessed by a demon. and clearly evil. But she was still willing to communicate with her dad with like Morse code to help him solve the mystery.
Speaker: So I was just confused on like is there a little good in there? I think it's the, I think it was Katie getting. a word in here and there like she's mainly real katie yeah like katie's consciousness is still in there somewhere and can only come out in certain like clever ways.
Speaker: clacking her teeth to Morse code. Just chittering.
Speaker: I thought it was more funny. ah I wish that movie would have ended with dad just in the box. do it in morris code they would have morris code mondays maybe they just come down like talk to dad and then like that's his life now like i kind of i kind of wish the movie ended there just to it's like You know what? The nuclear family isn't what...
Speaker: Yeah. You have to think it is. Okay. We have, there's many different ways you can have a family. It's not, it's not a all typical. We're just coming off of camp miasma. Like we gotta be a little progressive. Sometimes you just keep an undead demon dad and a sarcophagus and he could just Morse code. Look, he's paying for what the patriarchy has done the last yeah several... yeah Hundreds of years.
Speaker: thousands. Stay in the box, dad. um All right. Is that the seven reference? What's in the box? His dad doing Morse code.
Speaker: um All right. Speaking of progressiveness, this movie. With flying colors passes the Bechdel test. What's the vector testing? in um It's a test you run against a movie to see how...
Speaker: Far along and... and ah It's... If a woman speaks to another woman... about something other than a man. Then it passes the Bechdel test. Yeah.
Speaker: And so. A lot of women in this film and talking about the mom, the grandma, the grandma's friends talking to each other. Yeah. Not talking about a man here. The agent. The magician? Yeah, the agent, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. The magician's daughter. There we go. Vectal test passed. It just took a man to direct this film and be the change we need to see in the world. It took a man to direct the film. It took a man to cause the inciting incident to lose his daughter. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: He didn't cause it. Come on, you can't lay the blame on his feet. This kid was outside playing. Do they? Lucky. uh I'm not a dad, Trav.
Speaker: So I guess I won't i won't speak on this. I was just trying to take them off. I was trying to... I'm just just trying to rally you up. I'm not.
Speaker: I was just being a little jokester. And also, I'm fucking tired. It's it's like. four in the morning east coast time right now so that's um that's a good winner Scorpions make a big make a big splash here. Love seeing scorpions. Scorpion emerging out of the neck. And then once it's...
Speaker: Gone full alien. and ruptured her neck to emerge. Still turns around to stinger. which was yeah great it was like right before the scene cut too like we yeah ah VHS tapes again. pat How many horror films have we covered that?
Speaker: you know It's a creepy VHS tape. Analog is affecting man. Yeah. ah Love the trope of... of uh if you're trying to solve a mystery finding a college professor who's giving a class waiting till the class is over yes and then talking to him and recruiting him to help you or her. solve a problem. I'd love to see that. Mm hmm.
Speaker: Um... Also love a... Like... Anything over than a year. Flash forward. Like an eight year flash forward is. Mm hmm. is...
Speaker: That's strong. Now, Charlie looked exactly the same. but It would have been better if the flash forward was set to Dirty Work by Steely Dan. ah Yes.
Speaker: It would have been. PTA i would have really like that pta would have been like... All out.
Speaker: Um... Got some losers too, unless you have any other winners. Naming your daughter Maude. Like that's that's not doing her any favors, that poor girl.
Speaker: Yeah, she's... Yeah, that's not a mod right there. Yeah. Um, Taking candy from a stranger.
Speaker: Yeah. See I mean that's like rearing kids 101 you say don't accept candy from strangers i just feel like katie was just failing he was kind of smarter than that Yeah. Um...
Speaker: The lack of gauze. And like actual mummies in a mummy movie. Yeah. Well... So was her skin the gauze? I still don't understand that. He. Every.
Speaker: Bit of, you know, it's like how many licks to the center of a... ditsy pot when you how Where does the mummy end and where does it begin? Exactly. Where does where does Katie start and in the mummy end? I read that as like she had The gauze with the scriptures written on ah on her for so long, it like infused onto her and like it became her skin or something. Okay. But again, it looked like a nice prosciutto shawarma piece of meat. When she loses it. thing of skin off of her leg.
Speaker: That turns out that that was like 20 different pieces of gauze. like Did she even lose any skin in that? It was mainly gauze from what I could tell. I mean. true This is true mummy behavior, man. i have't there have to We have to go back into that college professor and ask him what's up.
Speaker: Um... Yeah, they had gross nails. That a good one. that i have hygiene. The nails were gross. Yeah.
Speaker: All right. I think that's most of mine. Should we move to our... ah Scream king, scream queen. Let's do it. I haven't really thought about this yet, so I'm going to have to do it on the fly.
Speaker: I never mind. Okay. Who do you got? I got Natalie Grace. Really? Yeah, we played Katie. I was just... Who plays Moomin, yeah. i just thought it was best this very affecting performance very creepy i kind of bought it Even with the tonal shifts. of funny versus Scary.
Speaker: I can get behind that. The way she... Jerks around like her movements were Truly terrifying. Yeah. okay okay i'm with you honestly both honestly both katie's young katie was great too yeah Yep. Yeah, i' I agree. We could in this case we just say katie Katie. the Yeah. Katie Cannon.
Speaker: Yeah. Not to be confused with Katie Cannons. Is that someone? i Those who know know.
Speaker: Um, Awesome. well ah Nice and tight episode here. what Rick, you've been the one. pining to cover this movie for for weeks now. Is your Lee Cronin's the mummy? Thirst.
Speaker: See you, Chet. Again, I'm just glad we know now that he is the mummy and it's not. I'm sorry that we know that he's not that he's not the mummy that it's just his mummy. um Yeah, consider the thirst quenched.
Speaker: And uh... like Again. I can't wait for the the mummy reboot or legacy sequel britain fraser but i think tonight after this pot i'm going to go back and watch the the the trailer of the mummy 2017 without any uh any audio tracks except for the vocals i didn't know that was real it was so real dude you have to look that up if you're listening Um,
Speaker: That's so funny. um All right, well, we have... We have no episode next week because it's Labor Day. So we're taking it off. You and I are doing a secret recording, which we cannot share yet, but.
Speaker: there will be no publishing published episode But after that, episode 43... We get to do. Resident Evil. 2002. ah Paul W .S. Anderson. The other Paul Anderson. Right.
Speaker: The other guy. Um, with ah With Joey Myers. a friend of mine from the film world. who knows yeah Who knows his Resident Evil video games? And of course, we're just ramping up for the new Resident Evil, Zack Krieger's Resident Evil, which...
Speaker: I mean, on my watch list for the year. that was That is my most looked forward to horror film of 2026. travel We'll have to revisit if we...
Speaker: I forgot how hard it was to do same weekend publishings like we tried to do with miasma we'll have to we'll see if we can Muster up the strength to do the rest of the evil. Yeah.
Speaker: All right Well... Thank you. Like and subscribe. Follow us on your platform. a Podcast platform of choice. And we're on Instagram. as uh a sundayscaries .pod That's who we are.
Speaker: We'll see you guys in two weeks. Good night. Bye.
Speaker: Rick eating on the pod. A tale as old as time. Sarah's waking up. What are you... You want some, babe? Oh my god, Sarah's just like woke up for the chicken frittata. Katie to the mummy and pointed at the chicken piccata and was like, can I have some?
Speaker: She's been asleep this entire time. must be good
