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Uh, that's a positive, um, example where you sort of say, Oh, I'm better than I thought it was. But, you know, maybe you think you're really killing it and you need a bit of a reality check as well on the other side of that. You know, at both ends, um, the other kind of people you'll meet at these events will be the vendors or the sponsors, I suppose is a better way to put it. And some people avoid the, those people, some people walk through the sponsorship area with their head down and they don't want to talk to vendors and sponsors, but