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Dr. Gareth Crispin and Dr. Robin Barfield discuss the top-down and bottom-up approaches to children's ministry and the growing tension between the two. They explore the philosophical and sociological factors that have led to the shift from top-down to bottom-up approaches. They also delve into the theological anthropology of James Loder and how it informs their understanding of ministry. The conversation highlights the importance of engaging both the mind and the heart in faith formation and the need for Christian adults to walk alongside children and young people on their spiritual journey. The conversation explores different approaches to youth ministry and the importance of encouraging speculative questions. It also discusses the role of crisis of faith in the development of emerging adults' faith. The conversation highlights the unique context of youth ministry in the UK and the shift towards intergenerational church.

Takeaways

* There is a shift from top-down to bottom-up approaches in children's ministry, influenced by philosophical and sociological changes.

* The top-down approach focuses on transmitting knowledge and objective truth, while the bottom-up approach emphasizes the agency and subjectivity of the individual.

* The middle path in children's ministry involves a dialogical process between God and the individual, where both divine revelation and personal experience are valued.

* Faith formation should involve engaging the mind, heart, soul, and strength of children and young people, helping them encounter God and respond to His revelation.

* Christian adults in ministry should walk alongside children and young people as fellow pilgrims, sharing their own encounters with God and providing guidance and support. Encouraging speculative questions can help children and youth engage in deeper conversations and develop their own understanding of faith.

* Experiencing a crisis of faith in youth can lead to a stronger and more personal faith in adulthood.

* Youth ministry in the UK is evolving, with some churches adopting new approaches that prioritize intergenerational engagement.

* Intergenerational church provides a space for young people to ask questions and participate in a community that includes people of all ages.

00:00 - 01:11 Introduction

01:12 Introduction and Background

03:12 Top-Down and Bottom-Up Approaches to Children's Ministry

10:03 The Shift from Top-Down to Bottom-Up Approaches

19:08 The Growing Tension between Top-Down and Bottom-Up Approaches

26:18 The Theological Anthropology of James Loder

30:45 The Middle Path and the Task of Faith Formation

38:29 Looking Ahead in Children's Ministry

40:27 Encouraging Speculative Questions

41:26 Crisis of Faith in Youth

42:37 Youth Ministry in the UK

43:52 Intergenerational Church

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