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Speaker: A new man called him Santa came He voice even knew his name But a hero, yes, was he Lift the boy, come back a man Still many just don't understand About the reasons we are
Speaker: I can't forget the look in his eyes For the tears he cried As he said these words to me All gave some Some gave all Some stood through
Speaker: white and blue and some had to fall and if you ever think of me think of all your liberties and recall
Speaker: Sandy Kane is no longer here But his words are so clear He's a echo throughout our land For all his friends who gave us all Who stood the ground and took the ball To help their fellow man
Speaker: I loved your country and lived with pride And don't forget those who died America, can't you see? All gave some And some gave all And some stood through
Speaker: For the red, white, and blue and some had to fall. And if you ever think of me, think of all your liberties and recall.
Speaker: And if you ever think I'm me Think of all your liberties And rip off Yes, rip off Some gave off Some gave off
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Speaker: What's going on, everybody? Happy Monday. Happy Memorial Day. Welcome to men caring for men. You guys know me. I'm Glick. This is part two of our military show. Hopefully you guys get a chance to catch part one Thursday night. We're teaming up with the guys are very talking shit and having some amazing guests on with us as well. Um, now, you know, talking about their time in the military. They're all vets, but obviously today is a special day.
Speaker: There's a lot more meaning to it than, uh, just your average day. So I want to start bringing everybody up personal and go and bring up my co -host for tonight. Mark, he's here. You guys know him from talking shit. Mark's hanging out with us. Yes. I, I liked it. I'd like to tell Steven, I'm very grateful that he gave up my seat for them or gave up his seat for the night for me. Yes. Thank you, Steven, for that. We also got one of our other co -hosts on multiple shows. My guy, Connor air force.
Speaker: and army vet in the building
Speaker: I've messed it all up anyway. Yes, the missing man table gets to be right in the fields every time I see it. We had a before I get to that. We also joining us again. The one and only you might want to. I know I was trying to. Badass extraordinaire Marine. Mr Rob Mello, what's going on, sir?
Speaker: Robert Malone trying something but uh no we uh we had a uh a local restaurant back home and uh you know locally owned and all that they had one of those tables set up and I and I gotta tell you the first time I seen it I was like what in the world is that you know and it had to be explained to me because uh I didn't know what it was I had never heard of it I was only granted I was only like
Speaker: 1415 at the time. But even even the first time hearing the story or no matter how many times after I hear the story, it really kinda like you said, Blaze, it hits right in the chest and it's gotta hit harder for you guys. You know, you guys all lived it and went through it and seen it and everything else. Not this. No, I don't think any of us have quite yet. Well, you've you've lost you. I'm sure you've lost friends, brothers.
Speaker: Yeah. And so like that and, and, and action or. Just being a smart dude. I got to forget. He's, I remember he's from Boston. He's going to bust my balls every chance he gets. You look funny and I can smell you from here. So about the looking funny. All right. Hey, the beard. Epic.
Speaker: Yeah, no, today, you know, I do appreciate you guys popping in here tonight and hanging out with us. Oh, we got. Oh, shit. Didn't do that. And joining us. Good job, Dickhead. Yeah, good job, Dickhead. And joining us representing the Army. Wes, what's going on, brother?
Speaker: the the the
Speaker: Hopefully you guys got to enjoy your weekend. Hopefully nobody had to work today. Excuse me. I never have to work. Some of us have to, even on holidays, I had to go in for like three hours to move dumpsters. Yay. I'm a union guy. We don't work holidays unless we have to.
Speaker: Actually, I do. I love my job quite a bit. Fortunately to do what I do. And I always I always struggle with these shows on where to go and what exactly to say. You know, not being prior military, not being a veteran or anything like that myself, just growing up. A very large or a very
Speaker: big supporter of our armed forces, active duty and veterans. It's always weird for me, especially being put in this situation with you guys. I don't really know what to say or do. But obviously today is a day of remembrance and honoring not only those who didn't come back home,
Speaker: But as I've learned in the last couple of years, it's also for veterans who have served and passed away no longer with us. That's true. Uh, which like I said, it's something that I've, I've learned over the last few years, uh, especially with interactions with more and more vets and doing more things with more and more vets. Um, so.
Speaker: For me I do want to give both my grandfather's and my former Grandfather -in -law shout outs on today for today or today Army Air Force and Marines collectively All doing all did their thing my My ex -wife's grandfather stole his older brother's birth certificate and listed in the Marines when he was 15 years old My grandfather did that. Yeah, my grandfather did that when he was actually 17
Speaker: on the
Speaker: So that's why I say dummy mine. It's not whenever you step on, it's whenever you release depression. So, um, and up until 94, whenever he passed away, he had a black spot about the center of his forehead of a piece of shrapnel that was still sitting there. Wow.
Speaker: that they never removed because one, it wasn't doing no harm and two, why are they going to spend the money on something that's not hurting you? Fair enough. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, you just, you know, so having a, you know, coming from a long line of, uh, veterans, my grandfather, my father, myself, I have countless cousins and then, you know, my son and then
Speaker: plenty of others of their kids that have all joined, even though I try talking them out of it. They still did it on their own free will and raised the right hand. We, we talked a little bit about that Thursday night. Ask, would you guys, you know, uh, recommend or encourage your kids to, to join and you guys all kind of responded the same exact way, you know, uh,
Speaker: you know, which is crazy to think about. But I guess right off the roof, you know, obviously today's kind of a solemn day and whatnot. And I'm sure you guys have all, unfortunately, but fortunately for us civilians,
Speaker: in places, seeing things, lost people, you know, like I said, your, your, your brothers in arms and stuff like that. Um, or even coming home and not being able to swing back into civilian life. You know, unfortunately we do have the 22 a day. That's the thing. Um,
Speaker: Is there any special shout outs to anybody that you guys would like to send out to whether they're families or just just to honor any of their memories or anything like that, anything, anything at all? They know who they are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll echo motherfuckers. Yeah. Cheers.
Speaker: I did. I did all my drinking for him on Saturday, unfortunately, or not. I don't drink much, but that don't count. It's a new day. You and I'll drink. Right. I always ask that, you know. So, you know, some people, they you know, they do want to.
Speaker: throw shout outs or or remembrances or whatever out there. Sure. I mean, sorry, guys, any any kind of like before, because I do have a couple of questions I want to ask you guys, it kind of lets you kind of do your thing after I ask. This is kind of a two part of the bird annoying the fuck out of you guys, too.
Speaker: the fifth
Speaker: Is there any, is there any, like anything that you guys want to say before, before we go too much further or get too deep as far as for today or any day for that matter? Not in particular. Nothing that pops in my head at the moment. Been a few words today. I am today. I am like, I mean, well, I was on, I was on the road for like six hours today, coming back from visiting a home in Michigan.
Speaker: You were a beaker as you're. It was a dude who was either beaker or animal. Everybody else can fuck off. No, that's a good fit. Right. Nice. Well, the girl, she's passed since past. She's a friend of mine. I met her at a convention. She was a vendor. I was a guest and we just kind of clicked. So.
Speaker: the the the the the the the
Speaker: I got invited out to do Blind Drunken Jenga, which is fucking great. That sounds so amazing. Blind Drunken Jenga. It's fucking great. And that's the tagline. So whenever you say it, you got to add that. Anyway, yeah. And we're just hanging out and she had never seen the the video of Beaker doing
Speaker: Beethoven, you know, me, me, me, me, me, me. And and fucking she she damn near pissed herself laughing. We kept in touch, blah, blah, blah. She got cancer, got fucked over by a lot of people, couldn't afford bills and so died. You know, and that happens way too much, too. Yeah. It really does.
Speaker: What I did I did want to say, though, fellas, you know, I was thinking about I was like, oh, shit, you know, watching the time. Don't have anything in particular to say. So I'm like, shit, you know, let me let me. History is full chock full of fucking great stuff. So I start going through, you know, and I'm history of memorial days here, there, everywhere. And I'm like, all right, well, fuck it. I didn't really feel like data mining anyway.
Speaker: Right now, so I'm just like all right. Well. I know I know The boys that are gone that I know and They wouldn't want anybody Yeah place to read do what you got to do, but for my guys they'd have been like What are you doing? You know I mean you're It's the notion of a celebration of life instead of fucking days of mourning and shit
Speaker: I don't know, dude, it it kind of struck me that they would have been like, just be better people, strive to be better people every day. And there you go. I mean, don't worry about me, you know what I mean? I ain't going there. You know, it's it's that's weird because, you know, I just had
Speaker: You know, family over and we were cooking burgers and dogs. And while I'm sitting there cooking, you know, I was thinking to myself, you know, today's not a day about us. That's the ones that are not here, you know, solely. And, um, I got extremely lucky with my deployments. I didn't lose none of my guys. Yeah.
Speaker: I didn't lose none of them except for doc. Three months after we came home, he wound up coming home, had a double shift at work, fell asleep behind the wheel of the car on his way home and, um, wound up side swiping an 18 wheeler. So, um,
Speaker: That hurts. Was that was that the one up there by in Crystal River? No, it was down in Plant City. OK. Yeah, it happened down in Plant City. I remember one of them happened in Crystal River like that. Yeah, that's awful. Go on a deployment, come home safe and sound. Yeah. And end up eating it with a traffic accident. Yeah, you know, just, you know, sleep behind the wheel. Oh, it sucks, man.
Speaker: You know, no drugs, no alcohol, no nothing behind it. And, you know, and that hurts. That hurts the most. You know, especially after you guys go through shit together and then come home and something is something as trivial as exhaustion gets the best of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I know. I don't know what this guy went through.
Speaker: you know, spending 36, 48 hours up straight just for him to collapse. Like I was like, wow. That's what I'm saying, dude. I don't like all those means that are like shaming people for barbecuing and shit. Right. I mean, what they're fucking celebrating. Shut up. Yeah, I got I got to agree with Rob. It's a day of remembrance, but it's also, you know, like you celebrate life. I tell people that when my time comes,
Speaker: I don't want y 'all boo -hoo crying at a funeral home. Fucking throw me in a box, prop me up beside a freaking bear and party. You know, I'll tell you what, Glick celebrate that. But now that I'm alive, I'm going to celebrate this. Yeah. Yeah. When we get there, I had a little Joe Diffie song. Prop me up next to the box when I come on. Let's do it.
Speaker: Exactly. That's how I thought for years. I was like, just have a fucking party, man. You know, Jesus, when you read next said that shit. Hey, what are you going to say? Yeah, but that would be like, I could see like doing that. You know, everybody pardon around him.
Speaker: I want you guys to celebrate the way I spent my life, man. I go hard. I have fun. I enjoy myself. And when my time comes, don't shed no tears for me, unless they're happy tears at the end of the day. But have a party. Have fun. Do it. Exactly. At the end of the day, wow, I want to welcome Brendan. Welcome to the show.
Speaker: I'm late too. Don't worry about it. Hold on. Wait. And Brendan's defense, he didn't think he was invited to this one. Well, I have a legal question because I live near a school. I am. Is he allowed here? As long as we can't hear the cages in the background, we're good. Did you go to farm them so that we can't?
Speaker: the fifth
Speaker: I wasn't going to call it. I wasn't going to call you out in the middle of the show. That's OK. That's OK, Brendan. I do. I do listen to your show. Thank you. Thank you, Mark.
Speaker: Okay, that's okay. Brennan. I do not. Yeah, that's also good. That's happily. Good. You don't have to, you don't have to like rub it in. You don't have to like poke me in the eye and spit away. I did. However, I did. However, discover you guys have a website where I can listen when I made, when I made that mistake. So I will be listening now. I just was like son of a bitch. I'm an asshole.
Speaker: He's a nice guy for not calling me out because if I, if the shoes would have been reversed, I would have called you out. It's all good, man. It's all good. So, but I wouldn't, I want to ask you guys, I wanted to ask you guys this Thursday night, but I figured I'd wait until today and I know I've got to kind of talk to Lison and Connor a little bit about it, but, um,
Speaker: What was the, you probably might've had the easiest one, Brennan, but what was, what was the transition like for you guys? When you, when you come out and you do your time and you come into civilian life, you know, was it a hard transition for you or was there something you just roll right into?
Speaker: Oh, me. Sorry. Yeah. So yeah, it was pretty easy for me because I just, I was a grunt in the coast guard and I was pretty much a grunt when I got out. I was, I became a plumbing apprentice. So yeah, I went, I went from, I went from being hazed in the military to hazed on a construction site. So it really didn't, yeah, it was pretty much the same for me. Yeah.
Speaker: Except I got paid more for actually doing work. What's considered a grunt in the in the Coast Guard? Yeah, I can see you turning your head sideways and shit. I just I just meant more like like a what are they called knuckle draggers, crying eaters? What do they call Jesus? No, I mean, hey, Rob.
Speaker: You're losing there, buddy. So no, it's just more like I was low man on the totem pole. You know, as we discussed previously, when you fake your military ID, they don't, you know, they kind of.
Speaker: They don't really like you anymore. Um, so, so, uh, I, I ended up getting my, uh, third class petty officer and then, uh, I have my E4, I think. And then that was about it. And so you're still like, you're, you're not, you're not, uh, you're not the low man on the total poll, but you're still pretty low. You know, so what's up.
Speaker: No E12, huh? No. We need 30 years to get that. E12. I got that after 50 years. After 50 years, they pretty much just give it to you. They just give you whatever you want to be called at that point in time. I mean, at one point in the army, they had E4 class like 10.
Speaker: Bullshit, you know, so you're an e4 specialist But you were classified as a 10 what should have put you as like, uh, at least a sergeant first class How do you make the rank structure any more confusing, you know, but they stopped that shit years ago So yeah, there was no more e4 Dot whatever animal in the army at that point, but you know e4 mafia. I fucking loved it. I
Speaker: in the world. In the army, Rob. I don't know shit about the fucking Marine Corps. I know you guys love your corporals in the Marine Corps. They're Lance corporals in the Marine Corps. I know that much, Rob. I got you. Rob, you're muted, buddy. You're muted, Rob. Rob, we can't hear you, buddy. You hear me now? There you are. That would be why that joke flopped that one time.
Speaker: I'm trying to tell you you were muted. Fucking duly noted, man. No, I was trying to hear because it's kind of tough to hear. I don't have headphones like you fancy fuckers. I don't wear headphones. I can get away with it. Hey, Rob, I'm going off solely off my phone. There you go. But you see the background moving. It's because I'm walking through my house.
Speaker: Yeah, he's jacket off I need to get a big one going. It's the neighborhood watch breathing heavy right now It's just starting to be the neighborhood Karen I guess Yeah, dude blind blind drunken Jenga
Speaker: and fucking battleship is fun as fuck too, when you're hiding. I fucked up my old lady because I know how she's got a mathematical mind so I know how she works. So it's very aesthetically pleasing and symmetrical. So it's like,
Speaker: chaos. Yeah, I got one big fat amoeba and then that little bastard way the fuck somewhere in the in the South Pacific. You ain't finding him. It's fun. What about for us? How was it? What was it like coming coming out? Well, going from active duty to guard to reserve. I mean, it wasn't terrible.
Speaker: I mean, coming out of back duty and being guard, it was like, alright, you know, I don't have to get up at five in the morning to do PT. I was getting up at four in the morning to go to **** work. You know, and then going into the guard because I wasn't doing the PT as often as I did.
Speaker: I mean, it it was good but it was bad at the same time and then switching over to the reserves. That's where I had the **** show. So, I'd ask Rob but Rob was a bad **** before he was a marine. He was a bad **** when he was a marine and he's still a bad **** to this day. No, no. Hey, are you trying to give him a bigger head?
Speaker: Sounds like he's trying to talk himself into giving him in. Oh, like the Coast Guard guy is here, right? Yeah, he's under you. That explains that. All right. Well, those dudes know it was it was fine. It sucked because I was going through a divorce because, you know, what was once a promising like
Speaker: 20 plus year career. So she bounced and I got my divorce papers on my birthday. You like that shit? Nice. Happy fucking birthday. You cannot fucking write it. You cannot write my life ever. That would piss me off. Jesus, I should talk to my wife. My birthday is tomorrow. Shit.
Speaker: I did have like moments where it was like, uh, like I had just gotten out and there's like a visceral, uh, I don't know about you guys, but, uh, just rub Bolton through the fucking woods top speed.
Speaker: You know what I mean? Like Return of the Jedi. Remember that? You know, they're blowing through like you're a fucking werewolf and shit. And yes, I ran on all fours to my brother's house. He lived about two miles away and I'm fucking I mean, it's like knee deep snow in the cemetery. It's a massive fucking cemetery that that was between the two of our houses. And I just fucking would just like
Speaker: jumping over shit. And I don't know, it was weird. Got to his house and we got fucking we got so high that fucking Jimi Hendrix was playing with no strings. You know what I mean? And fuck yeah, buddy. You know what I'm saying when when I say you got triggers of physical action. So like if you get nose to nose with me or you stop poking me in the sternum, I don't care who what
Speaker: you are, you're getting hit. You might stomp my fucking dick in the dirt, but you're getting fucking caught. And he was just fucking with me and like, dude, you know, I'm lit and I'm just like melting into the chair and I want to melt. And he's like, dude, dude, show me, you know, you must have seen some crazy shit. Show me this. And then like, dude, I stood up. I'm like, dude, you know what? I'm going to fucking go home, you know, and he's like in the in the third level of a
Speaker: Like a Brown song, like a walk -up, you know? And so it was basically the attic for a really rich family way back when. And like he fucking, he was like, dude, show me a move. Like close quarters, you know, hand to hand. He's like, come on, come on. And then he poked me in fucking chest. And like, he's like two of me wide. So I fucking bent down, grabbed his fucking ankles and stood up.
Speaker: And he went ass over tea kettle, like in the blink of a fucking eye, he went ass over tea kettle and his like fucking 240 pound ass went. He got he was frozen in fear. And like I was like, dude, don't fucking poke me, me. High as balls, you know, skinny as a rail. Excuse me, sexually aerodynamic. And this motherfucker played lacrosse for the University of Maine. And I'm like,
Speaker: And after that and the first the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan, like he called me directly out of the movie theater. He's like, holy fuck, dude. Holy fuck. Meanwhile, he's a member of the Marine Corps League and I'm not. I'm the one that went to Paris Island, you fucker. Fuck you, buddy. But whatever. What are you what are you what are you going to do? You know,
Speaker: But I mean, other than that, it was it was all right. Wasn't that big a fucking deal? Because like at the time, a short time is like a year in. You're you're there slowly winding your ass down, you know, and giving all your shit to the new guy. So, I mean, basically, for like the last six months, I lived in my room, my barracks room, and I had a booth that was 21 in my room.
Speaker: And like fucking whenever I was just like, dude, go to the PX. Mellow, I don't want. What? Yeah, exactly. Get me. Get me. I said move. Get me more beer, you little fuck. I'll get you more pussy. Exactly. Being at the end of the day. Fair trade. Like I'm saying, you know, like right now, he did not want to piss me off.
Speaker: like right now I'm six one uh two fifty my brother makes me look small okay and he's my younger brother I should say and whenever I got out and got out got out he was like I think I can take you I said really let's go by the time everything's ever done
Speaker: um yeah i wound up beating his ass and i was actually taking it easy on him uh my front yard looked like two hogs just went ramping through there all night long um and yeah my shower looked like a platoon of uh infantry men just went through there after they just got out of the two -week battle drill that's a fun one
Speaker: So that was, it was actually an awesome time. I mean, me and my brother really got to connect, but he realized, uh, wait a minute. He might know a little more than I do. You're like my, the same brother that took a fucking, uh, uh, Oh God, what the hell is it? Aikido class of shit. And his instructor was like,
Speaker: I can teach you how to break any grapple hold in under five seconds. And he's like, he comes over and fucking my brother's like, all right, whatever you do, you know, hit me with your your best fucking hold and I'll break it in five seconds. I'm like, no, you're not. All right. Good night. Yeah. Walk backwards and wrap my legs and was like,
Speaker: Goodnight, sweet prince. And he's like, I'm like, what the why you tapping my arm, dude? Remember that time you fucking hung me by my drawers on the I was the baby brother, too.
Speaker: but I used to take my little brother and push him off the top bunk with all my football gear on whenever I was in school and be like, look, it don't hurt and just push him off the top bunk. You're good brother. You put pads on him before you toss. Hey, I, Hey, I did something. My older brother, man. He was such a dick when I was a kid. We used to play all the time until he was, he, he got into high school and he started playing football and he lifted all the time.
Speaker: And so his freshman year, when he started getting into lifting, we would, so we stopped fighting because I got my ass beat one too many times. It's like, all right, fuck this. Yeah. My brother actually got the train with, uh, trained under Ken Tramp Shamrock at one point and he said, buddy, you can take me. I'm like, come on, brother. Come on. Come on now. Yeah.
Speaker: Uh you know what uh what about you, Blaze? Uh you're you're a transition man. Like I said, you're you're you're essentially growing in nice transitioning. Transition from the military to civilian life that happened so long ago by this time. Um it was different. I think I I hinted around last episode. It was
Speaker: the the the the
Speaker: to the
Speaker: Kind of like a kid in a candy store. I didn't know what to do with myself. So I pissed a lot of people off. What's that? Becoming PFC again, a private fucking civilian. Yes. Yes. There's my, there's my final PCS permanent civilian status. Yeah. Being stationed a four couch.
Speaker: Yeah, for the sounds of it, it's like the first time in your life when you when you were done and you're like, finally, so this is what it's like to be, quote unquote, a normal person. Yeah. Now I got to go get a job. I feel like major pain. Yeah, exactly. I mean, what's that? That kind of I mean, it kind of speaks truth. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: You know, poor Connor, he's going to have the saddest story of all you guys. You guys are like, yeah, you know, fucking life is, it is what it is. I mean, I mean, Connor had, I mean, you know, kind of learn a little bit about Connor. Uh, I will say this here, you know, um, learn a little bit about Connor was, has been a, um, um, kind of a heart drop story.
Speaker: Yeah. Cause you know, and it kills me every time we talk about it, you know, and I'll let him share his side of the story because it is one of those things that by no means was it his choice. No, it wasn't. And honestly, I mean, we kind of talked about last week, you know, people thanking us for service and this that and the other. Um, one thing that really gets me is whenever I have somebody that has a physical handicap,
Speaker: coming up to me thanking me for my service going, I wish I could have done what you've done. I have more respect for people that have a physical handicap that knows that they can't go in, but still want to do it. That kind of made me think, Hey, this is kind of the reason why I did it. Yeah. Those thousands that can't
Speaker: Well, you could you could have pulled a Brad Pitt from the movie Troy and looked down on him and said, that's why no one will remember who you are. You know, that doesn't fit the narrative, but it fucking worked. That's somebody that's being weak. But whenever you have somebody that that true, hardly that says, I wish I could do that because they they physically can't.
Speaker: I'm like, you know what? I got some Boston balls. I got it. Don't forget in the movie 300. They wouldn't let the mongoloid in there. And he was on the kind of screwed him over at the end of the day. That's a real piece of shit right there. Well, that's not exactly accurate. But in the army, that's what we call Blue Falcon. Yeah. Right.
Speaker: I think that's a universal term. We usually call him dead in the Marines. Friendly fire! Friendly fire!
Speaker: Hey, Jeff friendly fire is a as a poly syllabic phrase We like to keep it stupid simple around here and just say dead That's what you say
Speaker: car car you don't have to go too much but do you just want to elaborate a little bit with with with your your first forced into the just transition one since he's running from the law so he's in Mexico so first he transitioned to a female joined the air force then you can transition the army now too and the fucking taxpayers will take care
Speaker: Hey, you talk smack about my girl, Dick, but I'll give it to you all night long. No, I like it, Daddy. Motion of the ocean, baby. I wasn't in the Navy, just gone, boys. Or were you? I don't know. Catch him on a boat, Rob. I mean, who knew Jeff would turn out to be the gutter slut that is?
Speaker: They give you a medal in that branch of service for that shit like three leaders You get a merit badge
Speaker: This is my cum guzzling badge. It's an oak leaf. This one's for two cocks at one time. I got a bronze star for this one because it was while we were deployed. This one, he shot me in the fucking eye. That's why I got that. It was an iPad. That's what you call friendly fire. I see what you did there.
Speaker: It was everywhere That was happening that was that was happening to Jeff before he went into the Navy and since he's been out of the Navy That's that's just a normal Tuesday for Jeff. Let's be honest Because he's a badass but he just sucks off all the mob bosses
Speaker: hey what works works but uh yeah no my transition been shit it sucked i fucking i hate i hate how it happened um i essentially my body just kind of fucking broke down spine doesn't do what it needs to do bone degeneration disc degeneration i don't my l4 my l4 l5 is just gone um
Speaker: And they told me I had to get out. So I didn't really have a choice. I was I was hoping to go longer. I enjoyed the time that I was in while I was in even with all the shit that that I kind of dealt with. Mentally, it's fucking impossible because I didn't I didn't really have a chance to prep for it. It was just, hey, you're getting out. We're, you know,
Speaker: you're going to all these appointments and shit and you don't have a say in it. So go to your fucking appointments so that we can get you out of this fucking platoon out of this, out of the army, out of the everything. Um, and since I've been out, the freedom's nice. I could do what the fuck I want when I want. Uh, luckily my disability checks make it so that I can, I can keep, you know, my family and everything afloat, even though I can't really work right now, I'm just trying to fucking find what, uh,
Speaker: what my my niche is. I'm trying to start a gunsmith shop and that's a pain in the ass because I got surgeries coming up. I've got at least two more spine surgeries coming up and I'll be honest. I'm not I feel bad saying it but like I'm I'm not a real great person since I've been out. It's been it's been **** hard. I've been bitter. I've been angry and I've been trying to be nicer as as a person and as a dad and all this other **** and
Speaker: I just, I've got fucking multiple appointments every week and I just do sometimes it's just fucking hard. It's hard to, it's hard to accept that this is my fucking life now after being what I, what I felt like I was, what I felt like was my identity. And now it's, it just kind of got ripped away. Um, so yeah, no, my fucking transition has been fucking terrible. I struggle with it every day and I hate that shit. I fucking hate it. Where are you? I'm in Indiana.
Speaker: No shit. What, huh? Evansville. Oh, fuck, you're over by me. I'm in fucking Martinsville, dude. Oh, no shit. Yeah, I live downtown over by. So we're in the historic district. Oh, why no. Yeah, I went drinking there once. It's we're over over by Haney's Corner. It's it's a neat little area. Yeah. Yeah, dude.
Speaker: you should something that doesn't require you to move at all video editing facts and a solid ass editor uh from my uh my wife edited mine uh the one i wrote but i mean a decent editor 2500 project and it might take you two weeks
Speaker: And I mean, it's literally just practice, practice, practice, practice. Yeah. I mean, there's something you can do sitting around, you know, these jag offs. I know a certain brand and brand into the fucking the chicken. I know a certain network that needs some video editing help. Right. Yeah.
Speaker: I'll have to look into it. I'm just like 50 different lengths of programs that you can download and use for free. Hell, man. So I mean, dude, look, look at what you live in a college town and they have a film department. So make yourself known in the local circles that, you know, but you at the same time, you need fucking proof of concept. You know, hey, this is what I can actually do. My name is blah, blah, blah.
Speaker: And here is kind of like a demo tape, you know, in the eighties, you know, and just, Hey, check, check me out. Yo, when you get a sec, please love you, man. Big fan, blah, blah, blah. But, uh, I know just a place where you get all the demos you could possibly handle. You could really own your crap. It's called the nonsensical network.
Speaker: the the
Speaker: Like, what kind of person are you? You know, are you the fucking Maharaja of fucking? That's the type of person I mean. Wherever you go, Bolero plays. You know what I mean?
Speaker: it's usually it's usually just a guy playing a tuba behind my fat ass but still nonetheless i still have a soundtrack to my life everywhere i go oh so you never found that that
Speaker: Oh, shit, they so they cut off a rubber chicken in half and shoved it in your ass while you were asleep. You haven't found it. Yes. Well, you've got a. I'm sorry. The joke's gone far enough way to go, Rob. Do you go to the barrel at the bow of the ship for Navy was bad enough. Oh, shit.
Speaker: High school. All right. It's a red gummy. So you stuck your tongue out and looked at the camera. Let's see. Yeah. She's realized. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like a mirror. Oh, look away real quick and then be like, OK, Brian, we've got this. It's OK.
Speaker: Yeah. Bye. Sorry. Sorry, Brian. What's up, motherfucker? It's it's it's my birthday week. So I'm trying to celebrate my birthday week. So I think you guys can appreciate that because happy birthday, my birthday. I got a birthday week. Fuck you guys. When's when's your birthday, Brian? I knew he was a birthday week. Thursday. Thursday. Yeah. Mine's on Tuesday. I wouldn't bitch.
Speaker: Tomorrow. Yeah. Well, no. Get the fuck out of here. That's all. Fuck you, Brian. And I'm younger than you. Whatever. Let me make sure I believe you. Nobody cares. Connor, your feet is calmed down.
Speaker: I'm happy about it. I'm happy. I'm a fetus that's falling apart more than any of the motherfuckers on here. Yeah, I was gonna say, you might be younger than me. You hurt an abortion that somehow lived. Well, I can't figure out why my body should break me down like this. Well, it's probably the chemicals that we try to use to kill you. Oh, shit. Well, it's all under the Frankenstein's morning to come out. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker: My mom was trying to push me out after that C -section. They got me out of like stillborn, stillborn, stillborn, stillborn. That ain't right. Are we hanging up with somebody's like baby monitor or some shit? Are you guys hearing that? He's I'm trying to hook up to a near pod. I know you have a kid in the house. That's my wife's. Well, have her do it.
Speaker: You're too dumb to do it. Yeah. Wes, you got some... You got some pretty knuckles. You got some pretty knuckles. You got some pretty knuckles. You got some pretty knuckles. You got some pretty knuckles. You got some pretty knuckles. You got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty knuckles. Wes, you got some pretty
Speaker: Hey, so I was listening to the show and I heard that you guys were talking about transitioning to civilian life Your transition yeah, I know I know I know different transition not not when I was transitioning to being a man But that one time when I transitioned out of the military into civilian life who so
Speaker: I just remember this one guy that told me, dude, everything's going to work just fine as long as you know how to use Google. I said, what the fuck is Google? Because it wasn't a thing back when I was getting out. I mean, it was. Hold on. Wait a minute, Brian. You got out twice. I did, yeah. Yeah, the first time I got out, there was no Google. There was no internet, I think, the first time I got out.
Speaker: Oh, now he finally decided to show up. But Brian did have a hard time the first time, uh, when he got out. Oh yeah. People don't tell you that, uh, you're going to struggle at first. You just got to figure out how to make it. So I was panicking the whole time, dude. I was like a fish out of water. You know what I mean?
Speaker: Yeah, because that's because like in public schools, they don't set you up for actual life. And then you go into the military and they're just use you and abuse you as much as they possibly can for four to six years. And then they kick you out the door and be like, the tap seminars is just retard. Sorry. Ridiculous.
Speaker: It's so stupid. It's not the fact being stupid or being trained in a military profession. It's the fact that none of these civilian schools recognize that the sacrifices that we made going into that trade to begin with, that we're probably more knowledgeable than the instructors are to begin with. Dude, I got four whole points for my military career.
Speaker: When I got my associate's degree in college, I was, I was super excited. I was like four points. Yes. One class I don't have to fucking take. Yeah. You're really two points. Also, I know more than most of your fucking people have been trained. Fuck you. Sorry, Rob. For the, for the sake of, uh, the audience that might not know what all the fucking acronyms are, I think, uh,
Speaker: I just went through the TAP program. That shit was terrible. The only productive class that I did in the TAP program was the resume help one. That's the only one where I actually may have learned something and everything else was just like, oh yeah, apply to as many jobs as you can.
Speaker: if when we ever talk again, and we're talking fucking acronyms and shit, pop out what it means right quick.
Speaker: and don't be a dick.
Speaker: We spent half a day talking about all the states that gave the most, who gave the most, because you still had time to change your citizenship. One of my instructors was telling me, specifically came up to me, he's like, I know you're getting 100%, right?
Speaker: They gave you a 100 % term in total. I was like, yeah. That was the other thing they encouraged us to do. And they were like, move to Kentucky. And which is obviously, it's like right across the river for me. They're like, move to Kentucky. You get a break on your property taxes. You get a break on this, a break on this, a stipend on this, and blah, blah, blah. And they gave me a map of all the places that I could move to that had the most benefits for 100 % P &T. And I'm like, dude, the only reason I'm 100 % P &T is because I have no control over it. Fuck you. I don't really care.
Speaker: the the
Speaker: I'm done, you're done. You ain't get nothing more from us unless you really fight for it. That's the problem. I don't know if it's the Soldiers and Sailors Act, but I'm telling you, they encourage us to come up. Yeah, no, you're out, you're out. That's it. When did you get out, Wes? When I get out, 15. Okay. Oh, that wasn't really good. I'm going. And I'm just now, in February, I just started collecting my disability.
Speaker: of this year almost and he's been growing his beard ever since i i will say west like hey rob that was one of the good things about being part of like a med board an actual med board was i did all my cmp exams and i did all of my shit and i had my rating before i got out right so i didn't i didn't have to fight for shit once i got out they gave me a permanent total and i was like
Speaker: I got it. I got a buddy of mine. That's the same way as you I have a buddy of mine the same way as you but he's still only collecting 60 % see that's so Brian he caught and I talked about him the other day. He caught the the force gump one. But the for him that the 762 that went into his ass ricocheted off his head and went out the side is how to went straight through his head. Yeah.
Speaker: So, yeah, I've seen it in the x -rays. You can see the scar going across this hip where the 762 went. That's a sound when it hurts. All right. I have a proposal, fellas. I propose we grow our bids in our various styles and become the Society of Epic Bids.
Speaker: I, you know, that's a great idea, but I also want to say that I don't have that beard that you call that a nice beard below you. Uh, hello. That's, that's barely, that's barely peach fuzz. He's got on his chin. So yes, almost 44 years right here, buddy.
Speaker: My family was on WIC when I was in, what you talking about? Hey, I was on WIC when I came out. What are you talking? I was the buddy who was on WIC. It's passed, the conversation's passed. So, I mean, you know, we all, I mean, every one of us, I can kind of say this, once we were in it coming out,
Speaker: It was not easy one way, shape or form. We had to figure ourselves out once we got out. Like, I don't know. For me, it was it was super easy because I fucking hated it. So like it was like, yeah, but we still had to figure out who you were. Like, I didn't I didn't do. I would have I would have swab decks at frickin McDonald's. I didn't care. I was just so happy to be done with it. But still, you had to figure out who you were when you got out.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I mean, we were all glad to get out. We all had to figure out where our place in life was once we got out and there was no one there. I'm still searching, man. There's no one here to help us, bro. That's why we do podcasts. We're still looking for the answer. Oh, hey, Brandon. Yes, sir. Get into film editing.
Speaker: Fucking telling you, dude, I can't. I mean, some of us, I mean, hey, Rob, some of us were dumb and didn't ask about the G11 or the post G9G. Post 9 -11. Post 9 -11 and the GI Bill. I mean, we didn't ask for that shit whenever we first signed up either. That's one thing that. I mean, it was it was cool, but I'm like, all right, I don't even plan on making it that far. So. Right.
Speaker: but I mean, you know, knowing what I know now, that's been one thing to help my kids out. At least how many of you guys took advantage of the free college while you were in the three years. I did not. I waited until I was out before I fucking.
Speaker: the three years meeting is the one you have to pay for. No, no, you can do correspondence courses. They're free. You could, while you're in, you can do correspondence courses. Hey, who told you guys that you could do correspondence courses? That would have been cool in 1993. Yeah. Even in 98, they were still like, you had to like send away in the mail for them. It was ridiculous.
Speaker: I took a couple of my classes was cleft. One of them was Dante's and the rest was all in classroom. But I got out. I got out with my associates. I my last two years in, I was like, well, I got one deployment coming up. I'm just going to I'm just going to burn books and see how fast I can get through this. And I did. I got I got done. And that was it. Got out with the associates. So I was too busy drinking beer. Congratulations to you, brother. Seriously. Good on you.
Speaker: because I know a lot of guys that knew that we had a deployment coming up and they passed. Yeah.
Speaker: they they they straight up past and they're like, there's no way I'm going to be able to do my college education and still do deployment at the same time. It's hard. I mean, it's just to you, brother. Yeah, but I will have to say I was Air Force, so my deployments probably wasn't as rough as some people. So yeah, I was kind of discouraged whenever I, you know, whenever I had somebody, oh, I'm here for the next six months. I'm already three months in on a 12 month deployment. Fuck you, bitch.
Speaker: You're going to be home before I even get the chance to go home. In the summers, they used to eat lobster. I did. I did escape over to the airport basins on Friday night for the surf and turf. I ain't going to lie. Yes. I never ate lobster. I never ate the lobster. Even if we got steak in lobster, it was it was always you. You've got your stand. You're staying longer.
Speaker: Yeah. You're going to be you're going to be here for a little while. Bad news. Yeah, they're like. They always talk. Everybody's so excited when you get a steak and like, oh, it's so fucking good. Then you go to eat the fucking steak and it's like a sandal.
Speaker: Yeah, it's like it's like chewing a fucking dirty Jesus and they're like, hey, we're in the Air Force. Yeah, you guys are staying for another two months. All right, cool.
Speaker: I'll go fuck myself. Yeah. So I was like, I was like Kramer and I would just set my own lobster traps. Although he robbed traps, but like I would just like we, because we're doing shore duty, we would just set our own traps and we would get lobster muscles off the side of the, uh, the piers and everything. And Oh yeah. Yep. Yeah.
Speaker: Jeff was excited because he got to sneak a car onto his ship. That was one time! See, Jeff's excited about that, and you're over here like, this is every day. I'm just like scooping motherfucker's foot. His deployment is Maine. He's off the coast of Maine to unlobster a fish. For six months.
Speaker: How was your deployment? Well, we went down to Florida. Well, I didn't even go that far. It was just like, well, I went to the next bedroom over.
Speaker: Oh my god. What bark told me I was invited to this one. I'm like, I'm not gonna have anything to add. I didn't go anywhere. I went to fucking Connecticut for four years. Good God. That would sound like a fucking spa weekend. You know what I mean?
Speaker: of my own
Speaker: Oh, so like last last last weekend, he was skiing in Croatia or something. I don't know. And then this weekend they were somewhere and they were just drunk all weekend. But he had his first appointment, you know, mom being mom. She was worried. She was nervous. And I was like, where's he going? And she said, Katara, I kind of chuckled a little bit. And she's like, what? I said, just wait a week. This cat was in a five star hotel.
Speaker: If he wasn't at work, he was out and about sightseeing. On the weekends, he was going God knows where. And I'm like, the whorehouse. I'll simplify it for you. We're going to the fucking whorehouse. As our fucking quarantine, because I went to Afghanistan in 2020 during the drawdown and
Speaker: We went to Cutter and they had us in this little like fucking, maybe 2000 square foot little sand pit with a trailer on it. And they're like, you guys can't leave this area. And we're like, I see the fucking Popeyes. What do you mean? So we would like, we would order Popeyes online or order a pizza online and they'd just throw it over the fence to us.
Speaker: the the the the
Speaker: because of the uh because i was part of the national guard at that time the platoon or the company platoon squad i was in we were considered the elites i had guys in my squad that were ranger battalion we had guys that were 82nd airborne but we were all uh aerosol so second employment we're in kawaii we get a uh
Speaker: We're told we're doing a PTA PTSD mention personal security detail of a three -star. We're like, okay Come to find out this guy actually pulled us up and was like, hey, I want these three I want these the squad to escort me through these certain bases and shit because of our past history and
Speaker: So we meet up with this general finally, before we step off and he goes, Hey, bring at least, um, two nights worth of civvies. We're all like, sir. He goes, bring two nights worth of civvies. Do what I tell you to fucking do. Okay. No problem. We're doing it. So we wound up taking this guy through like Baghdad, Bagram. I mean, we took him through all kinds of shit in Iraq.
Speaker: Next time we know we're a guitar. And we're like, sir, why are we in the guitar? And he's like, I told you to bring series, right? We're like, Roger, that certainly goes, I know you guys been through a lot. I figured this would be a little, uh, break for you. I hand selected you guys. So here you go. Here's your two beer tier, uh, beer tabs each. And he starts going through and he goes, Oh, I forgot.
Speaker: here's your two beer tabs each and we're all like sitting there all right now we got four tabs in our hand and I say you know here comes six tabs in our hands we're like sir you already gave us this and he goes no I haven't here's your two more next thing you know we have 12 a pack each and he goes don't make a fool of me and we'll have a great time
Speaker: Roger that, sir. We're gonna have ourselves a wonderful time. My youngest. Then lock me the fuck in a room. No light, no sound. We are 100 % on the same page, sir. We got you. And I eat at 1730 every night.
Speaker: It's hard on in in the on the bass Everybody gets like two ration cards or two ration tabs for a couple beers Well, my youngest kid was born while I was over there. So I was on the phone for like fucking seven hours But so the baby was born and
Speaker: I was off the phone, I went back to the bra, that was the double fucking TP looking huge ass recreational area, bunch of tables and shit. I'm sitting there, I grab my beer, and everybody's at the table with theirs, just giving me all their tabs. I got fucked up that night, yes. Great, great. Yeah, that was rightfully deserved. Yeah.
Speaker: It was that was interesting. I was in I was in Korea when when we found out the gender of my daughter and then I had just gotten home when my wife had my my daughter, but she was she was in Indiana and I was in El Paso. So I had to make another flight. So I missed her birth. But when they found out the gender, my wife actually messaged my my medic doc face right as as some people may know him on the show.
Speaker: And like a whole bunch of people came to my room and like, put like fucking balloons and gay shit on the fucking wall. And they're like, just start popping the balloons. And like, confetti and shit came out. I'm like, here's an ice cream cake. And here's a free 30 rack of beer. We're getting fucked up tonight. We all brought our own. I was like, fuck, let's go. That was the best time I had on deployment was when we found out the gender of my daughter. Hell yeah. Great. Yeah. Have you ever heard of Murphy's law of war? Yeah.
Speaker: any of y 'all heard the murphy's law of war it's like like the 10 commandments you know um a lion has to wake up in the morning it has to outrun a gazelle to survive a gazelle has to wake up in the morning knowing it has to outrun another gazelle to survive you know whenever you call for fire the rounds are going to fall short um when desperate need to call for fire your radio
Speaker: beer math 32 soldiers times two beers equals 78 cases. So that's the perfect solve for it. It's like we all suck at math unless we're talking about beer drugs. That's what I call beer. 32 soldiers times two beers equals 72 cases.
Speaker: That's what you might be a little light west, but yeah, I think you're right about there All you need for a good party in the in the military is a barracks room and alcohol that's it one room My room was somebody sharpie in
Speaker: You can't be no fancy shit in that room, dude, because it'll get fucking broke. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My room was bare minimum. I had you got to have like the fucking Ryobi or whatever the DeWalt fucking boom box and shit. Yeah. You got a major hanging out in your room doing cake stands. Don't talk to me. That's a good day. Yeah. Yeah, I will know. I avoided every officer known to man.
Speaker: I'm sure or they will fuck each other in the ass. Whatever. I don't care. I was doing fucking kegs.
Speaker: the the
Speaker: I had to get out a down free card that I was talking about the other day, too. See, Jeff, I can believe that. I can believe that you're in trouble 24 -7. Oh, constantly. I got a few Oracle 15s as an E4 that made me not promotable to E5. Well, I literally disappeared because my uncle's a fleet admiral. You know, a phone call and that shit just disappears.
Speaker: I'll be honest, Jeff, when I, I fucking hated people like you. I fucking hate it. I hate it. No, no. No doubt in general. Connor, let's amend that. You said hated. That's the past tense. I'm sorry. I hated, however, if you were next to me, you got off. Well, you got off. Yes. Oh.
Speaker: See, this is what. Hand or mouth. You said it. Jeff, what's a hand or mouth? It is. Either or. Dealers choice. Neither. Neither. I prefer a mouth. Booty ho. Booty ho. No, day after boot, my uncle shows up at boot and hands me a fucking sat phone. And he's like, never need this. My number is star one. Got it.
Speaker: Well, fellas, I'm going to roll out. I got to head to the store before it gets back because I've seen you brother later on again next week. What you sexy fucks. You're welcome.
Speaker: I'll tell you, uh, take it up with Mark. He's uh, he's got something good coming up for all of us. I ain't taking nothing up with Mark. Fuck that. He's shady as fuck. Oh, fuck you. Take it up with me, Rob. Shady as fuck. Yeah, right. You thought the army guy wasn't allowed within a fucking school zone. Oh, wow. He's not allowed on public buses no more.
Speaker: I told you that in secret. Stop. Well, I mean, you know, whatever I got. We've all. You're you're you're you're welcomed on any of the shows I host any time, especially Saturday nights. I think you would have a blast if you're around on a Saturday night coming and hanging out with us because we have we have a really kind of cut loose and just just hang out and have fun. And. All right. Let me. Uncensored.
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Speaker: the the the the the
Speaker: Like Jeff laughing his ass off from Guam he's like This week I'm gonna attribute to Jeff having met Jeff Jeff is going to Guam
Speaker: Good for you. Yeah, it's too far away.
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Speaker: I was going to say, I have to check out. But. At least Rob said bye. You just keeled over. That's fucked up, Wes. Yeah. Well, his army. You want to you want to really fuck Wes up? I want to take a real quick break.
Speaker: What's going on, Jamie? How you doing? I do want to take a real quick break. I've got to go get a refills. If anybody's got to take a potty break, take a potty break. You need to refill your beverages, refill your beverages. If you have to go check on your lobster cages, go check on your lobster cages. By lobster cages, I mean the hostages that you have in cages in your basement.
Speaker: You know next week is my week we share custody for him all right he goes back in my cage too much
Speaker: I recommend you abuse me extra. Oh, summertime visitations. Summertime big take visitations. We get to spend a little bit more time with Steven so we get to abuse him a little bit more. So I do want to take a real quick break. I got music here from from our guys, the Southern Outlaws band. Again, congratulations to the guys on their award. They did win.
Speaker: Best rock artist of 2024 at the Mississippi Music Awards. So shout out to those guys. And A, this is a great song for tonight's show. And B, it's one of my favorite Leonard Skinner songs. And they got permission from Skinner to do this song. So we'll be back here in just a few minutes. Enjoy a little Southern Outlaws with their version of Red, White, and Blue.
Speaker: We don't have no plastic L .A. friends Ain't on the edge of no popular trend Ain't never seen the inside of that magazine TQ We don't care if you're a lawyer or a sexist old man Some waitress bustin' ass or some liquor stand You got soul, and now people just die hiding here My head's turned and white That's always been
Speaker: We've always been here, this wide and blue Fire on black and dirty, pale on dew Smoking camels and drinking and misting you You wonder where I've been, look at my hands
Speaker: I'm gonna cry, still wouldn't pay my bills. I ain't been nowhere, but even God he understands. My heaven and white, that's always been red. My colors and blue, always been red. I'm proud to say nothing. Yeah, people say it. We've always been here.
Speaker: We love our family, we love our kids You know it's love that makes a man so rich And that's where it's at, if they don't like it, they can tell it Hit the hell out!
Speaker: There's always been friends, with all those new groups. The fourth western years, trying to sing the truth. Yeah, through space.
Speaker: I love you. I've loved you. And right there with their cover of, uh, under skaters, red, white and blue, going to check those guys out. Awesome group of guys. Not too bad for you guys from Ohio. Uh, they got to, I got to opportunity to, uh, get drunk with them and do a show. That was a, that was something else, but, uh, welcome back to men camp for men, everybody. Hopefully you guys are enjoying the show so far.
Speaker: I like to get drunk with you one night. Let's **** do it. I'm in. Do it. Oh, you guys say, you said the magic words. Get drunk.
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Speaker: Are you okay? I'm good. But no, welcome back to Mentan for Men. We've teamed up with our guys who are talking shit, Mark and I guess Brian. Well, Brian don't count today. What the fuck Brian's doing? Does he count any day? Let's be honest. Well, there are days where he counts, you know. But now we teamed up with these guys and we've got some awesome veterans hanging out with us. This is part two. If you guys missed Thursday night's show, go check out the replay. Also,
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Speaker: that's right the entire coast guy I don't know what it is though
Speaker: You have to make a run to the store. It's also game four of Boston and Indiana. And in Indiana, sorry, Boston's looking pretty sweet. That one's going to be a sweep tonight. Yeah, I think so too. But Rob Miller was here. Thank you to him. We really appreciate it. And thank you to all you guys for coming out here and taking time out of your day and evening and hanging out with us, shooting the shit. One of the questions I wanted to ask you guys, and I'll get to Connor.
Speaker: specifically because if you're dealing with it or if you had to deal with them, the VA, we've all heard the horror stories. We've all heard how bad the VA is, but you also have this, unfortunately, the bad stories outweigh the good stories. So for you guys specifically, I'd like to start with blazing. Have you had to deal with the VA very much or are you dealing with them currently?
Speaker: Yeah, I actually I deal with the VA medically. It's actually almost now. Well, it's actually been been pushed back to one day a week. Tuesdays I go for therapy for my head. I'm currently working with the VR, VR and E. I'm part of the VA for for college. So yeah, I use the VA.
Speaker: a lot of a lot of
Speaker: Okay, so that was something again, you know be in Being a guy who's obviously a Civilian, you know, I didn't realize that with your schooling and stuff you had to deal with the VA. I thought it was all like medical related
Speaker: No, so VA stands for Veterans Administration. And that's an umbrella for all things that veterans have access to. And there's health care, there's education, they help with jobs. Housing, there's VA offices that help people with housing. Yeah, there's other things too, just off the top of my mind. Those are the three that pop in.
Speaker: OK. Yeah, I wasn't aware of that. I learned something new every day. So.
Speaker: For me, did they help you with your green hookup? You know, are they here? No, no, no, unfortunately not. Unfortunately not. Actually, so when I was in my 30 day SART program, I actually kind of brought that up because currently there are. Is it testing subject tests? I forgot the actual nomenclature, but they are seeing how it's called.
Speaker: uh marinol it's a synthetic thc pill i was trying to get on the research study for but that just sounds like a bad idea why would you make yeah it does but it's just like it's just good in the plant form like why would you yeah it's better because yeah because it's the government government they're gonna fuck it up with brand on this one
Speaker: So I mean, I think, I think it's because there are veterans. I can't actually smoke it. Actually, there's people because of long problems, but I know there's edibles and I know that that's fine. If they can't smoke it. I mean, me personally, I can either because it makes my fucking scientists is in flight.
Speaker: you know it's like i just walk through a serious garden of a shitload of pollen when i smoke it but whenever i do a vape or an edible i don't have those effects and i still get the side effect of what i want my thought process was this if i can get on that research study not only can i get
Speaker: the the the
Speaker: Heroin is a synthetic morphine Yeah, I thought heroin was no morphine Is there both only opioids the heroin comes from the actual poppy plant It's not heroin isn't synthetic I'm talking about what it comes into your body as
Speaker: Yeah. I don't want to, it's not really. All I know is that you could buy over the counter synthetic THC and it like ruins people. Like it ruins their minds. It's like taking bath salts in some places. Oh, you're, hold on. You're talking about that spice or canine stuff. It's totally different. Don't
Speaker: I'm a little bit smarter than that. Yeah, you know, cool, it's cool. Keep trusting the government. They told you the shot was safe and effective, but yeah, keep, yeah. Hey listen, there's signs right down the road from me and it says $99 military weed test and I just need to go get tested for it because then I can get all the weed I want.
Speaker: no no no don't tell me it's totally different it's synthetic THC synthetic THC synthetic THC synthetic THC synthetic
Speaker: Very good. And it's weed, not marinol or whatever. Yeah. I will. I will say that some dude that's named Virginia. For any veteran that does live in a medical only state when it comes to cannabis, about 90 percent of what you probably have disability wise will probably be a prerequisite in order to get your cannabis card. Oh, yeah. Stone that out there.
Speaker: Yeah, my back's all wadded up and shit from a car accident when I was in the military. Guess what I was told? Hey, there's a medical marijuana facility that you can go to, and they will give you the card, and then you can go get stuff for that. I was like, oh, okay, cool. I like the chiropractor, though, because that shit feels good. Cool.
Speaker: I don't have a dog in that fight. I don't know nothing about anything. I don't know anything about any of that stuff. As far as weed goes, I've said it before. I've done it. I've smoked twice in my life and I was 16 and that was it. I've had gummies twice in my life and that was in my life. So it was just like first experience was amazing. Second experience. I was like, I'm good. I'm done.
Speaker: Right people I'm just saying I Just I like I just don't understand like the synthetic part like that really is a hang -up for me. Oh, yeah, no pass I don't want the fake shit. Yeah, I just especially with those CDL drivers. So I mean you can't have it Right as it's right. Yeah, it's become federal I can't no yeah, yeah, yeah but
Speaker: You know, so even having a synthetic, I don't trust it one bit. Anything that's been synthetic has always been proven to be bad at one point, you know, 20 years, 30 years, 10 years from now. And we've seen some of that shift pop up from the last 20, 30 years from our childhood that we were told was good. That's not good now.
Speaker: So, so let me ask the question as, you know, uh, as a guy who doesn't know, because I don't live in that world and it's just not for me. Uh, I don't care if people do as a is there, is it better to get the raw leaf form as opposed to having an edible or, you know, like the butter is one better than the other. You know, if you're using it, uh, medicinally,
Speaker: Obviously, you know How you use it and what you what effects you're looking for like I eat edibles because They helped me like I get to sleep better I I mean literally last night I had I was like I can't fucking go to sleep My wife's like here eat this and it was half a gummy right to sleep right to sleep. I went I
Speaker: It's usually not what Nikki says when I'm having problems sleeping and she says, eat, this is not a gummy. I mean, what, what, what, what researchers, I mean, what researchers have found over the last 20, 30 years, you know, um, I'll say in the last 10 years, last 10 years, let's make it 20 and just for conversational pieces.
Speaker: But in the last 20 years, what they've realized just from THC alone and the benefits of it for the people that need it. I'm not saying, you know, if Michael J Fox was to partake in THC in a very minute form would actually help him with his Parkinson's.
Speaker: Well, I've always been a huge supporter of the medicinal reason, you know, like I don't care if you want to smoke it just because you want to get high. Like, as long as you're like a functioning man, it's like me drinking alcohol. I'm not going to work and take a 12 pack of beer with me and drinking a 12 pack at work. You know what I mean? But if I want to drink a couple beers after I get home from work to relax, then so be it.
Speaker: that's actually and and for the same person that wants to have a little bit of THC to be able to go to sleep at night because it takes 21 days to get out of your system. There's a little **** I'll say and and you know, I've seen and and it's actually this video years ago on on on on YouTube. a gentleman that was all ate up with with Parkinson's. I mean he he yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: And he smoked one bowl and within like five, 10 minutes, but he was like setting up straight. His, his hands were functioning. He wasn't like shaking. He was able to go make himself a sandwich in the kitchen. I mean, just simple CBD would help him with that. Not just THC, just a CBD portion of it helps him with that. I know my sister used CBD oils for my nephew who is, is.
Speaker: Uh, who has autism is autistic. And when he was younger, he was nonverbal, just, you know, some CBD. Guess what happened? The kid, I mean, when he graduated a couple of years back and you're like, he'd been working a job. He had his license, you know, he was planning on going to, and she just started using like CBD oils and shit. And I'm like, it's a transfer. It was also the school that he was in. He was in a public school, but he had, there was a program where the teachers actually gave a fuck to as well.
Speaker: But I'm all for it medically. I think for pain management and whatever the case may be, everybody should have it. And veterans, if you guys have gotten injured, like Connor or Wes, you said you got some injuries and whatnot. And I don't know, please, is your injuries that you have, are those military related? I think if it helps with pain, helps you sleep, helps you
Speaker: Mentally because you guys come out with some fucked up shit going on in your heads. Not all injuries are my
Speaker: My buddy got, um, like three months before I got out, actually got fragged in a training accident. Um, and he's, his leg is, is super fucked up. He took most of the shrapnel to his leg and he still got large pieces in it and his hand doesn't work right anymore. Uh, so he's, you know, surgeries all the time, which is just fucking terrible. I feel for him. Uh, and being the training exercises that too.
Speaker: Yeah, and he said he uses THC particularly to get rid of the pain that he has in his leg and in his hand. He said it doesn't make his hand feel any better, but it doesn't hurt. It doesn't make it work any better, but it helps him with the pain. Like it gets rid of it, it doesn't. It's the same as taking a lower tab or
Speaker: A percocet or a dimerol or something like that. It doesn't actually hit the pain. It hits the scepters in your brain And They just be serious. This is what happened. They outlawed a plant like someone like what it came down to and yeah Brandon you're actually absolutely right the guys that actually rode up the bill that said that heroin and
Speaker: Uh, cocaine or illegal, put it back about 50 something pages back into the thing, making THC marijuana illegal because the sun was applied.
Speaker: After prohibition, they needed an enemy. The enemy was weed. That was it. It was a legal import until 1930s. See my enemy. Am I wrong whenever I put that in there? I can't speak to that, what you said. I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying like, I know that in the 1930s they needed a new. Yeah. It was in the 1950s whenever the bill guy actually got passed, but the one bill, but one part of it was making a class one.
Speaker: was marijuana because of the guy that wrote it up, his son was a pothead and he thought it should be classified as a class one. Look at how many of the founding fathers were raising hemp and raising marijuana. And then George Washington was number one. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Number two, a legal import, a legal import into the United States up until the thirties. It's just absurd. This is, this is, there was no reason.
Speaker: So someone brought up CBD earlier in this in relationship to THC and I say this I've worked in the cannabis industry as a bud tender and I have looked in a lot into excited talk to customers because Customers always have questions, especially those new ones are those 80 year old grandmothers that walk into a bud shop They they have no idea what the fuck they're doing
Speaker: But CBD, and by the way - You give it a 25 milligram gummy. Right. So with CBD, there are different types of CBD. But CBD itself is usually good for inflammation, swelling of certain areas of your body. There's one called CBDG, which is good for your gastral area if you have like Crohn's or something. But THC is good for pain relief.
Speaker: so it's a good idea if you're if you're under if you're underlying issue pain is because of inflammation you definitely want CBD in that uh in that flower or edible or whatever or however you're taking it they do sell through you know botany they have actually taken just high strains of CBD plants and they have thrown the gamut at it and they there's some CBD strains out there that it's like
Speaker: pushing numbers like THC numbers like 20 % and 25 % CBD. Usually you'll always have THC in those kind of plants but usually when they are they're bred for high CBD the THC is usually about half lower than what the CBD usually is. So if you got a CBD plant that's like a 20 % usually the THC is going to be at 10%.
Speaker: That's still a lot of THC. Yeah, that is still a lot of THC. Whenever you start looking at stuff that has a higher THC content to it, it has a lower CBD content to it as well. There are some one to one ratios that I've seen. There are very few. I do study in that a little bit.
Speaker: Because I am looking at, you know, living in a state to where I can grow up to four plants per adult in my house. Now, something I know a lot of people don't know about cannabis plants is there's the terpene profile. And that's where you get a lot of the smells from. So it's like the THC starts that car up, but those terpenes is like the drive. It affects how the high is going to work. Exactly.
Speaker: I mean, I live in Virginia, not gonna deny it. I live in Virginia right outside DC. Maryland just recently opened up to where they do legal sales, which just north of us, DC's been selling for a very long time. If you want to look at it in retrospect of THC being legal,
Speaker: because there are still some states that it is still completely illegal for medical or recreational use. Virginia is one of those that is a decriminalized state, but they still don't sell it. Recreational, even though that the bill is sitting on the governor's desk and they don't want to do nothing about it. That's the only government I'm going into, Mark.
Speaker: Oh no, this is his show. I mean, this is great show. So, no, no. I mean, Mark and I was here a couple of days ago, you know, um, luckily Mark and I actually have known each other for a very long time. Um, I've known his wife for a very long time too. And, um, I have nothing but love and respect for that family over there. Don't apologize for it. And Brian.
Speaker: the the the the
Speaker: He doesn't know how to use his laptops over. I'm sure Mark has to go over and set it up for it before they do the show anyway. The reason I would join the Navy was if I was drunk. Going back to the whole THC thing though. Honestly, you know, THC, CBD, and being in a position where I am, where I
Speaker: can't touch none of it oh i see where it'd be a very beneficial for me and also i've seen where it's been very beneficial for other people using it in the right context yeah well before we get too far left to center uh welcome to the nonsensical network squirrel moment i you know i i am curious because i want to know you know
Speaker: as far as personal, you know, personally how the VA has your experience with the VA. And I, I like how blazing gave him a 70%, which based off today, now that they've changed the grading scales, the 70 % is like, what, a B plus or something. Now, you know, I would, I would have graduated. That's a team line. That's what's going on. Yeah. The, the, the, the, the new skit. Oh my God.
Speaker: I feel so bad for my kids as a, as a public school, wasn't bad enough already. Now all of a sudden it's like, Hey, you got a 60. You're telling me on Evansville, Mike, my kids go to the 791st elementary school in all of Indiana out of, out of a thousand. Like, you don't get to be started on fucking public schools. We didn't have much hope for your kids anyways. Cause they're your, Oh, I remember if you got below a 94, you got to be. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: But, you know, Brendan, what about you? Have you had a lot of experience with the VA or, you know? No, I had a few injuries while I was in the Coast Guard and they actually in taps, they were like, yeah, you got to go to the VA, start the process now. So the taps, the temporary assistance, what is separation? Transition assistance program.
Speaker: Thank you. Yeah. So they they tell you like, that's like, it's like a month before you leave or two months before you leave. And they tell you like, go to the VA, start your process now to get a rating as far as but
Speaker: I don't know. I was like, I wasn't that hurt. And like, it's not, you know what I mean? Like, it was one of those things. What entry did you get in the Coast Guard? Did the lobster pinch here? You got water in your eyes? Well, no, no, no, no. It was one of those pressure claws got to his dick. No, no, it was one of those. Dick in the ass.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was. I was checking the Navy. Come on, I was going to throw that joke out there, Wes. Thanks a lot. Hey, I was trying to say, oh, now this is a real joke for the Navy. Motherfucker. So yeah, so no, nothing like too serious. So I was like, what am I going to go to the VA for? So no, I haven't been to VA for anything, actually. And I mean, literally, the only thing after I left that I collected on was the GI Bill.
Speaker: So, yeah, so I guess, fortunately, unfortunately, I don't know. I haven't had to deal with them. So, so, kids, the lesson here is if you want to join the military and you want life to be easy, join the Coast Guard. Easy ish. Easy ish. Boot camp in there is pretty shitty. No, honestly. Yeah. If you're going to join the military, be prepared for the fucking hoops you're going to have to jump through that are lit with fire.
Speaker: to get whatever you deserve afterwards. Yeah, I mean, when you sign up for indentured servitude, just know it doesn't matter what branch you're doing it for. Exactly. The good news about the military is your job is really fucking simple for at least the first four years. Just do what the dude above you told you to do. Yeah. Yeah, basically. That's it. It's it's really. I need to go. I just want to say bye. It was great talking all y 'all blazing blades. Yeah.
Speaker: I'll probably use Glick to get ahold of you guys. And I'll use Mark to get ahold of you guys so Mark can get ahold of you guys. You follow me on Instagram if you want to get ahold of me. I do. I do. I'll see you tomorrow night, my man. You can find me through Mark. Later, buddy. Later, guys. That's what he's going to do. Take it easy, brother. I got some other alley for tomorrow, too, by the way.
Speaker: Awesome, I thought you were going to be a say something else. Yeah, wait, I'm going to go up his alley. What? Jeff, I'm assuming since you've been in Mexico so long and you're on the run from the law, you really haven't had much interaction at all, if any, with the VA. I when I first got out, I was made to go to therapy. I went to one session and then left and then you fled the country pretty much. I mean,
Speaker: Yeah, when your therapist is a cunt, then you can't do anything about it. Agreed. Yeah. And and this is something Connor and I talked about the other day. My therapist was the worst therapist on the planet. She literally told my CEO, you know, I don't want to talk to a guy. I don't want to talk to him anymore. That's something I don't I fucking hate about the VA and that system is
Speaker: There, there are a lot of people that, that work for the VA that work for the VA because of the job, not because they're government workers. Think about this. They're government workers. The problem is you're, you're working with veterans that, that actually have fucking problems and need fucking help. And when you're going in there, when you go in and the person that you're talking to just doesn't give a fuck, it really wins the way that you see it. I went into the VA here in Virginia, where I live in Richmond.
Speaker: All right. Which is the main VA center. I said, Hey, I need my medical file. They said from where I was like, Florida, they're like, you need to go to the VA. I'm like, I'm out the VA. Why do I need to go to Florida to VA when I'm at the VA in Virginia? Like it's total identities.
Speaker: so every state's different so no matter what state you go to unless you have a life -threatening emergency only at that point will they pull your file from another state that's been like one of the really good things about having va healthcare for me is i mean since i've been out i've probably been to between the er and urgent care three four times and i haven't had to pay a cent this week so that's been nice
Speaker: I've been battling that. I've been battling that every time I go in for a medical emergency from my VA trauma, I have to battle that VA. I have to battle that bill with the VA. Do you go to the VA or do you, do you go to like a VA hospital or are you going to a civilian hospital? I go to the civilian hospital. That's five miles away from me compared to the VA hospital. That's a hundred miles away from me.
Speaker: Do you, do you, so, and I tell them, I've had to fight them every time with my, because I actually had foot surgery and they build track. Every time I go in, I say, I'm VA. They're like, all right, no problem. I get something from the VA, not the hospital that I went to, but from the VA saying, I owe like 150, 200 bucks and I have to fight with them to get it removed.
Speaker: So you are one who's had the shitty experience with the VA. It sounds like Wes. Yeah. Because apparently I'm a really nice guy when it comes to those assholes that deal with it. Oh, hold on. You're not nice. Hi, Mark. I may not be nice to you, but it's called having a good day versus having a bad day. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker: I mean, when I had a girl sit there and go, I'm a VA, I'm a veteran too. And I'm like, yeah, and you were the soup sandwich that everybody hated. That's why you're working at the VA now. So Wes apparently feels some sort of way about the VA. The VA sucks. We always does some way about the VA.
Speaker: I will say this once they actually said that after shit. Almost 14 years. They finally said that I actually have PTSD, depression and anxiety and started treating me for it. 14 years later.
Speaker: Yeah. So luckily, I still got a lot of friends that are still in because I got out so recently. And a few of them, not everybody, obviously, but a few of them have legitimate issues. And the big thing that I keep telling them is, and, you know, everybody in the TAP programs and, you know, get checked out before you get out. But
Speaker: go to your CMP exams, which is your your compensation and pension exams for the VA, go do them before you get out, do them through a civilian CMP provider. Because when you do it through a civilian CMP provider, these guys actually give a fuck because it's how they make their money. It's like 14 years to do that. So I got again, I mean, so Connor, yeah, I agree with you 100%.
Speaker: It's 14 years for that to happen. Yeah, because the VA doesn't want to give you money. No. But the civilian guys are like, okay, what happened? What happened while you're in? What happened here? You know, why do you have this issue? Tell me about it. And they go, okay, this makes sense. This makes sense. This makes sense. As long as you can prove it, we're good. You know, we're going to get you compensated based off of this. And then a lot of
Speaker: are a couple of my buddies who have gotten out since I've been out are now fighting are now fighting for the packs act too but they're still not crediting me for that either the packs at the packs act is a big one that you need to be on the registry for and yeah and I've already been diagnosed with uh uh cyanitis and ryunitis which are the two biggest for the packs acts because I'm going to wait in Iraq around both that
Speaker: and then uh yeah the what is it the the toxic exposure? Tactic exposure is a big one because they were supposed to stop the packs act yes yeah that's what they were supposed to have stopped doing the uh the burn pits and uh burning feces and burning chemicals and shit like that they were supposed to stop that back in 2009 uh but i can tell you it didn't happen
Speaker: Yeah, I can tell you from personal experience in 2020, during the drawdown, we burned everything, everything. And plus being in Kuwait in 2010, where there is no scrubbers or a lot of this American clean air act shit, they don't have it over there.
Speaker: So my biggest my biggest argument is is that the US can do everything it possibly can and Pay all this money it possibly can to have all this clean air shit It ain't gonna make a damn difference if no other country is doing it and one of the things about and being quite I seen it and
Speaker: Yeah, one of the things that they made me do is make sure that I was on the toxic exposure thing and make sure I was part of the packed act, etc, etc. And they said anything that if you if you end up having any sort of cancer, and this is one of the big things that the US government is having to pay for right now.
Speaker: is people are coming down with cancer that used to be in the military and deployed overseas, particularly during the Gulf War and the war in Afghanistan, essentially the global war on terror. People are coming down with all sorts of cancers. And they're like, if you come down with any sort of cancer,
Speaker: then you tell the VA they have to pay it. One, they have to pay all your bills for your medical bills. And two, if you don't have 100 % PMT, essentially what they'll do is they have to give you a stipend because you came down with cancer and it's their fault. I don't smoke and I got spots in my lungs. So I'm not saying that the US government is anything great. No, it's not.
Speaker: The problem is there are people that actually give a fuck in Congress and other places in the United States government. And that's all well and good. And they're trying to make the VA better, but they also don't want to spend the money to help out the people who they've fucked up. No, it's not, it's not the fact that you don't want to spend the money. Connor, honestly, it's because I know a couple of those people too.
Speaker: Um, I actually got some good friends that I actually worked with side by side on the civilian side of things that have worked themselves into government. And it's not the fact that they don't want to spend it. There's a fact that once it gets beyond their care, no one gives a shit. Yeah.
Speaker: So it's the worst part about the VA people that are sitting way up there have never experienced it Yeah, it's it's the worst part of having to deal with like the VA and having a deal with the government Etc, etc is when you get fucked up from the government. They're just like it's not our fucking problem anymore Their kids are never going to war their kids are they're not ever going to war but I grew up
Speaker: My grandfather was a World War II veteran. Purple Heart lost his eye. I mean, not much more I have to say about it, but he was a Southern Democrat until Reagan took office back in 1980. That's when he became a Republican because he realized that Democrats, I mean, not to get political.
Speaker: But Democrats have proved themselves to be who they are time and time again. And Republicans have proved themselves who they are time and time again. Me, myself, I'm independent. I'm all about the American people and I will stand up for the American people. I don't give a shit about the government. Amen.
Speaker: Okay. I raised my right hand to say, listen, I could keep going. I don't want, I don't want to turn this into a fuck. You know what I'm talking about. I could like, I could go on for you raised your right hand the same as I did.
Speaker: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But those motherfuckers that I raise a hand for didn't do. They just keep voting for more war. Like I said, we can keep going. Like I said, I'm not Republican. I'm not Democrat. I'm for the American people. I'm with you, brother. I'm with you, Wes. I'm with you, brother. One hundred percent. I'm with you, brother.
Speaker: So on a lighter note on a lighter note The friendships the friendships that you guys make when you're when you're active duty and stuff like that Wish I had an older vet in here still Rob You guys are still kind of young
Speaker: But the friendships that you make, that brotherhood that you make, is that something, and again, being a civilian, I've seen it both ways. I have a lot of friends and stuff like whatnot that were in the military. And I've seen guys that I went to high school with who joined up and a couple of retired and
Speaker: Um, you know, they met guys from fucking South Dakota and shit like that. And those guys, when they get out, they've moved to Ohio because of the friendship that they have with two or three guys that they made in the military. Are those friendships that some of that you, that you guys actively stay up with? And I know Connor, you're probably the freshest out right now. And I know you still have very good friends. We've got to.
Speaker: I know you and Doc are pretty close. Uh, we've got to hang out with him. He's probably my best friend in the world. Yeah. Uh, if I have a minute, 30 seconds, honestly, I've been out for almost 10 years. I can go almost anywhere in this country to have a place to fucking stay. Max. Nice.
Speaker: I'm not over exaggerating one bit. I can go almost anywhere in this country, call one of my buddies up and say, hey, I need a place. And at the same time, any of them call me up and say, hey, I'm coming to your neck of the neighborhood. I need a place to stay. They got a roof over their head too.
Speaker: 10 years. I mean, they're 20 years from now, 15 years from now, it's hard to go through with, with, with those guys and the trials and the tribulations and the shit that you see and the shit that you do, the shit that nobody will ever talk about behind closed doors and, and not have that bond. Even, even with some of the guys that went, when I was in, I wasn't particularly big fans of, uh,
Speaker: I actually got a call from one of those guys the other day and we were we were chatting it up and we had a we had a nice little talk and It's hard to have those relationships while you're in and then leave and completely forget about them and You get out you see these guys and you see them struggling and you know, obviously we talked about like 22 a day and I
Speaker: It's hard to see him struggling and not not think to yourself like that. That's my fucking like, I remember all the shit that we've been through. Right. It's it's hard to not keep that bond. I could get a call from ninety nine point nine percent of the people that I was in with and just be like, yeah, dude, I got a place for you. I got a third floor. It's calling your name, man. That that that that that that twenty two a day, I had brought it up earlier and kind of you just brought it up.
Speaker: That just. It's it's it's part of the situation. We need to do better. By our vets. As as a society, we need to do better, you know, for our vets and make sure they're taken care of and whatnot. The 22 a day, the homeless rate amongst amongst our veterans is don't believe don't believe all the signs that you see on the corner of the road, by the way.
Speaker: Well, no, I'm not talking about that. And I understand because, you know, I enjoy learning things. I like to know things. And, you know, when I lived down in Charleston, we had like Tent City and stuff like that. A lot of places do. Now, granted, the Tent City in Charleston is not Skid Row in California, where they're all ate up with fentanyl and all the other shit. And, you know, I'd go down there from time to time and
Speaker: the the
Speaker: Almost became it. I've been close a bunch of times. Yeah, it's just that. Jeff and I talked about it the other day. Actually, it was. Yeah, we were both going through it and we just we just randomly called each other and just we were on the phone for like what two hours? Yeah, we're about two and a half hours. I'm so glad you assholes don't call me anymore.
Speaker: Well, I don't want to call you about the shit that I needed to talk to Jeff about. Exactly. Well, and that's the thing. I mean, we can't just call anybody. We have to be able to call someone. Yeah, it's a difference calling a civilian than it is calling somebody that's chewed the same mud and drawn the same blood. Jeff and Connor know me and they know my my ears are always open and my my phone is always on. You know, I may not understand 100 percent.
Speaker: but I'm always there. We get that and I have no problem bringing you my day to day shit. I will call you every time. But again, like I said, feel free to call each other. Don't call me. But at the end of the day, Jeff Glock, I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker: there's only a small handful that we can call. There's only a small handful that we know we can call. There is nothing out there for us. There is nothing out there for us. I'm actually, I mean, just being on this cast with you,
Speaker: I'm and mark and everybody here Has kind of made me go wait a minute So I'm thinking about starting something on facebook myself Yeah, you know as a you know Military talk to me Yeah, so
Speaker: Like I said, Jeff and I have talked about some things, help Connor and I have talked about some things. And it's good having different branches talking to each other and having people that truly appreciate what we've been through so that way you can learn. But honestly, to me, is the ones that wanted to, but could
Speaker: Yeah, those are the biggest Because they had a medical disabilities that automatically told them no Yeah, oh even click and the ones that are sitting here on this panel right now. We all wrote took our right hand and raised it up and said That we would do this. We would do that. We would protect ourselves born in domestic
Speaker: I totally get that. And like I said, you know, I brought it up Thursday. And in all honesty, I had my life planned out. You know, I was 100 % full on board. Jeff knew that when we were in high school. He knew what I wanted to do. I wanted to go army. I wanted to make a full fucking career out of it. Well, you know, unfortunately, medical issues kept me out. But
Speaker: and i have nothing but respect for you for that sir coin so then i did the the normal thing finished school got a job started happening because i would honestly i didn't think about kids i always wanted a family but i was going to put all that off to the to the side until i got done the military i wanted to do at least a minimum of 25 years in the army and then when i got done i would think about having a family and all that
Speaker: but how'd that work out for you buddy not too well yeah you know i get the initial kick in the dick when i'm told that uh i'm the last of a bloodline post it all the way but you know what you know what i mean that is the best job in the world
Speaker: Don't get me wrong Best worst drop in the world right like You you never stop stressing about your kids like never yeah like as long as you're alive You're gonna stress about your children, and if you don't then you don't give a fuck about him, but I'm just gonna leave yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying you I have sacrificed I have sacrificed
Speaker: Congratulations. I have sacrificed. Um, Christmases, thanks givings, birthdays. I mean, I mean, there's a lot of things that I've sacrificed, but one thing I never sacrificed was my son's birthday. My sons, which I never sacrificed fourth of July because he's only, he was only born three days beforehand or after.
Speaker: I should say. So whenever I told, you know, every, every deployment I ever been on or whatever, they're like, when do you want to go home? I want to be home for the first two weeks of July because my son's birthday is July 7th. No, I, you know, I got to agree with, but I never missed a fourth of July. I got to agree with Brennan, you know, being, being a dad is.
Speaker: I've been called a lot of things in my life, good and bad. And one of the best things I've ever been called is dead.
Speaker: You know, that's what I would stress to anyone that is like questioning their identity. Sorry, like, I don't mean to, but like, like that should be your identity. That should be the only thing you give a fuck about. Right? Like if you have, you have kids, like I don't, who cares what your job is. It doesn't matter for you guys.
Speaker: It doesn't matter because honestly, you should mop floors 20 hours a day before you give a fuck about what your job title is. If that's one thing I learned from my father, I saw him miserable at his job. And I promised myself I would never be there. I would absolutely never be there, which is I went for the military.
Speaker: I did it. I went into being a plumber. Then I was selling cars for a little while. I became a border patrol agent. I said, fuck this job. I went back into the plumber. I don't give a fuck. I don't care what I'm doing.
Speaker: My, my only, my only concern is for, is for my family and for, uh, my kids, that's it period. That's, that's, that's my identity at this point. All right. So what's on the last podcast, we all agreed that we would not talk our kids into doing what we did. My kid did. My kid did.
Speaker: even though I told him, don't do it. He went in head first, right in dad's footsteps. And I'm like, dumbass. No, that's, but at the same time, I mean, he came out, he's a law of force, but
Speaker: about to get married into the year, Mark, uh, you and I are going to be meeting up by the end of the year by, by the way, buddy. No, we're supposed to meet up a lot of times, but we never seem to know. I'm coming down into the year. My son gets married. Uh, uh, my son's getting married on, um, uh, New Year's Eve. So.
Speaker: that's not as dumb as me, you don't get married two days after my wife's birthday, you know, that's what I mean, Karen did
Speaker: that some kids won't listen
Speaker: Uh, no. Gainesville actually has some other things I'll talk to you about that one later. Okay. Um, but no, I mean, when it comes to my son, when it comes to my son being military and stuff, him not listening to me actually want to be in the best thing he ever did. You know, sometimes, sometimes, you know, as, as dad says, we, we just have to let them follow them. Exactly. You gotta let them, uh,
Speaker: brush their wings and fly. Yeah. And, and, and being a parent and trying to coach people not to do certain things, you know, a good parent, a good parent is letting them make their own mistakes and learn from that mistake. But sometimes that can backfire their own faces and actually be a good thing and not mistake at all.
Speaker: Yeah. We may look at it as a mistake, but it's not. No, it's not always a mistake. You know, sometimes. Well, I mean, we've all been there in life. I mean, we've we've all done things that at the end of the day, we really wish we could we could hit a rewind button. But however, when you step back and look at it and go, you know, the more I think about it, that was actually it sucked to learn this lesson.
Speaker: But it was a very valuable lesson that I learned in life. Yeah. I mean, did you do anything you realized that you would change? Wes, did you do everything that your mom and dad told you to do? No, no. Yeah, of course not. That's the thing. It doesn't it doesn't matter. I should have been a pilot. Oh, yeah, it's just the way it goes.
Speaker: The best thing I did was not listen to my parents at all. But I mean, seriously, like, oh, that's not true. That's not true. But it's the proof from the proof improving is the fact that we can say whatever we want. We can say whatever it is that we want. We can hear all these horror stories in all these good stories, not just the horror stories. And that's the one thing that we always
Speaker: collaborate about is the horror story. There's a lot of times where I listened to my parents where again, it's one of those rewind moments where I wish I could go back and go, God, I wish I would have just ignored them in this case. Uh, but there's also those moments where it was like, you know, exactly.
Speaker: Your kids it's not exactly like your parents your shit. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Most of us are all Gen X's are if not all mr. Gen X's Hey, I'm young and happy about it hey, but you know what you know what I?
Speaker: nothing but love for your brother. Here's the thing though like with your kids and this is something that I'm starting to understand because I remember how I was as a kid and I challenge everybody to think about this is when I joined the military it didn't matter what my dad said, didn't matter what my mom said. I had to learn by experience. Exactly. I went to Afghanistan on my own terms technically
Speaker: I went, I went overseas on my own terms. I joined the army on my own terms. I did it because I wanted to do it because no matter what anybody told me, how many times they called me an idiot. Glick called me an idiot to my fucking face while I was working with him. It didn't matter what anybody said. It didn't matter what anybody said. I had to learn it by experience. I don't know Mark. I don't know, but there was a comment just popped up on the bottom of my page here.
Speaker: You know, I, yeah, I was one of the ones that told Connor he was an idiot, but I was also one of the ones that I, if you remember correctly, Connor, I supported you. You cheered me on. That's a hundred percent. I knew what you wanted. I think, I think being a parent also is just like saying, Hey, like, I think you should think about this, but not necessarily telling them they shouldn't do it.
Speaker: which one is a
Speaker: Yeah, exactly. I mean, you got like kids make their decision. Oh, yeah. And all we can do as parents is stand behind them and support them. Well, you know, it's one of those things, you know, as as as parents, you know, like like Brennan said, you know, he did everything he could to make sure that, you know, his kids were taken care of. I mean, you talk about sacrifices and stuff like that.
Speaker: You know, and you guys being military men and guys being in the military, you guys made your sacrifices. You know, today we celebrate and honor the people who made the ultimate sacrifice being Memorial Day. But it's not about us as as parents, as as dads, you know, that's the great thing about us dads. It's also a thankless job, kind of like the military in some ways, not that I'm comparing a civilian.
Speaker: No, it's, it's, it could be a thank you know, you know, six years ago, six years ago, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm living in a place that I absolutely love. Yes. Uh, six years ago, I'm living in Charleston, South Carolina, and I love it. I love Charleston, you know, and, and, and I got a, uh, I got a six figure job. I got a beautiful house. You know, I'm, I'm on the coast. The weather's nice.
Speaker: And then my ex wife comes home one day and says, I'm leaving it for somebody else. And then a few months later, she says, I'm taking the kids and going to Ohio and there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker: So, what do I do? Yeah, there there was but yeah. So, so, you know, I found out real fast that South Carolina is a mother state and she could chop them kids into pieces and put them down. You don't want to start anything on here. You know, I'm telling you what I'm telling you right now, dude. Uh, you want to hear a **** horror story? Hit me up. Well, so, you know, II. Yeah, but that was that had to do with Florida law too though. No, no, no, no, New York law.
Speaker: New York. Oh, okay. I had nothing to do with Florida. Oh, oh, that one. Okay. Yeah. I quit. I quit my job. I gave up my house. I came back to Ohio. I went from making six figures a year to $12 an hour. Yep. I got an apartment that was 600 square feet wide because I didn't want to be 12 hours away from my kids. Two years ago, two years ago, I got custody of my kids. I have them full time.
Speaker: there with their mom on the weekends and in the summer time, we do a week on and a week off. Now I'm doing a lot better. I got a little bit bigger place and making a little bit more money. You need to hit me up, but you and I need to talk buddy. And I'm lucky in the aspect that my ex -wife and I, we get along pretty well. So there was no fighting or anything like that. It was just when I went to look into and try to stop her or.
Speaker: Take you know, try to fight for the kids when I live down there. I found out real quick that So Carolina don't give two shits on the fuck about dad. So I said, all right. Well, that's fine I'm gonna give up everything and move back to this goddamn shithole called Ohio so that I can be around my kids and You know this one. She just graduated high school this weekend And and I look back at it and I'm like, yeah all that money that house Living on the coast I can get all that again
Speaker: I'm like, all right, I'll see you guys in the summer and on holidays. I think most people would have given that up. Like you say it as if that should just happen, but I don't think most people would do that. I don't really think most people would give up that complacency, that comfort. I don't think they would. They definitely would not have.
Speaker: What I can't get back is the last six years that I've had with my kids.
Speaker: Like I said, like you said, being a dad is my, my whole shit. You know, like I'm a dad, man. That should be your fucking stick. First, first and foremost is your family. Fuck. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. Second foremost is your country. And it's country you believe in. Now what people tell you to believe in.
Speaker: Yeah. New Hampshire is my country. Is there a way we can take like a five minute break here, guys? You got something for a break? Yeah, I can take a break. Wes has got to go to the bathroom. I got to be like your bladder and bladder or you can just know, but I'm trying to be respectful for the show. Hey, Wes, just go take a go to the bathroom.
Speaker: Yeah. Well, like I said, I do everything from a phone. I don't have a laptop. So I can't change the background. I've already tried. Don't. Oh, there's there's ways I'll have to teach you. Don't don't worry. When you leave, we'll put a big old dick. Well, you do. Yeah. Let me see if I can do this. There we go. Oh, he did it. He did it. No.
Speaker: Yeah, just go about it any more time.
Speaker: That's that's ever since my ever since my He did not mute there No, it's ever since my first ever since my oldest daughter was born that said it's like my identity was like dad that's who I am I'm a dad and
Speaker: Well, I got to be honest, like when Connor was like saying that he separated from the service and he said that he was, his identity was kind of the military. Like I, like, I don't, I'm, I felt bad, man. I'm not going to lie. I felt bad because like,
Speaker: But also in the same respect I kind of like I feel with you like cuz my work with my identity I like I've been working south since I was like 14 even before that I was like shoving shoveling people's sidewalks I was mowing people's lawns like I always worked like I just worked as soon as I could like Move a lawnmower or a snowblower like I was doing it or a shovel really honestly but
Speaker: but I get it. But then in the same respect, I feel bad for you that if you only identify yourself through your work, that sucks. But I've been there. I'm not saying you shouldn't, but I'm also saying I get it. I've been there. I identified myself through the work, but
Speaker: But I stopped doing that and it's more important to identify yourself through your friends, your family, the things that you do in life that are good and that are important.
Speaker: Yeah, like I I'm glad I'm able to say this to you. But like, I really felt bad. Like when you said that, I was like, Oh, fuck, man. Like, no, don't identify yourself through your work. Don't do it. Because it's like, it's just you'll never be happy. You'll never be happy. You're right. And it's, I'll be completely honest. But one of my big issues was when I when I left Afghanistan, that's all I wanted to do was go back.
Speaker: It completely consumed me as a person. And I gotta say why. Like, I gotta honestly know. I gotta honestly know why. There are things that I won't say. No, no, that's fine. Whatever you can. No, no, no. I will say that when I left, I felt like I didn't do enough. And like my kids... Oh.
Speaker: But I absolutely identify as a father. Don't get me wrong. Don't, don't, don't, don't get me wrong. Uh, but when I left, I became, I became bitter, became angry.
Speaker: I wanted to go back. I wanted to do more. I wanted to be helpful instead of just sitting on a fob and being that guy. I was, I was angry and I was ready. And when I joined the army, I was, that was what I wanted to do. That was all I wanted to do. And we pulled out and I knew we were going to pull out, but like my, I couldn't accept it. Um, yeah. Well, I think one of the things that, and not to cut you off Connor, but I think one of the things that we struggle with is men as well.
Speaker: is we're in a society where, yeah, we want to be dads, ultimately, number one. At the end of the day, we love our children, we love our kids, but unfortunately, we live in a society where we are valued more for our worth as far as what we can bring to the table than what we do as dads. And I don't expect a bunch of accolades or anything like that. Father's Day,
Speaker: You don't have to worry about doing anything special for me on Father's Day. It's just another day of the week at the end of the day. But I think it boils down to, and I struggle with this in the early stages of being a dad. And my girls are four years apart. And it took me a long time to come to terms with this. And that's why I worked so hard. That's why I did everything I could to make sure they had nice clothes, a nice house.
Speaker: blah, blah, blah, and they were little, they didn't know, they didn't know anything. And even when we went to Charleston and I got the job that I had, it was like, I'm a dad, but I've also got to provide them all this house, the car that their mom drove, the summer vacation to Disney World or Legoland or wherever we were going.
Speaker: But I was always, and even, you know, it was that, in all honesty, it was that, that reset, that divorce was kind of a reset for me where it was like, I've always been dad. Like I've always been there. I've always made it a point to be in all their, their, their tee ball games, their cheering events, the, the school events and everything. Like I've always put my kids first, but it was like a reset button where not only do I have to put my kids first, but I have to put life first. And I have to.
Speaker: Realize that all the materialistic shit we can get back But it's the time that we get to spend together and it's the time that we share together The memory that is or more important and more valuable especially for them when they're coming up, you know, like something as simple as Sitting in my son's bedroom on the floor, which Hurts like a motherfucker because I've got busted knees. My back is jacked But I'll sit in there for an hour and play video games with you
Speaker: knowing that when I get up, I'm going to, I'm going to get up and walk out there like nothing's wrong. But as soon as you can't see me, I'm going to limp and I'm going to have to like, you know, it's that time that, that means more to him. It's like, yeah, dad and I were playing video games and he's going to go tell his friends, you know, and my dad and I, and it's like, you know, it makes him happy. Cool. That, that, that those, those little moments is something that I didn't realize, even though that I was there for everything. And I thought I was, you know, doing everything right.
Speaker: But it's hard to differentiate because we are brought up in a society where we're only valued by our world, what we bring to the tables.
Speaker: I agree with you. I agree with you. The fact that like a societal look at you is, is where it's at. But like I'm saying like you shouldn't give a fuck what people think. Like you shouldn't you like, you just do what you do is good for your family. Connor, as far as like, you're like, I didn't do enough. Like trust me. Listen, man, I was in the coast guard. I know, I know how that feels. I didn't do shit.
Speaker: So like, I get it, like, I get it completely. I felt like in four years of service, and I was like, what the fuck did I just do with myself? Like, why? Why was I even fucking here? Like, at least you like, like went somewhere else. And it was like,
Speaker: oh come on like i didn't even do anything you know like i get it i'm just saying like um but but in the end like really what what does it what what what does that matter that doesn't matter like really what matters is yeah your your family matters um
Speaker: your kids matter. I don't, I don't like that. That's really one of the hardest things to deal with in life is just not caring what other people think of you. It really is like you, like it's easy to say, like, I don't care what other people think of me, but then also you're like, Oh, we got to paint the side of the house. You know, we're going to think, Oh, we're going to do this. So that's what we're going to people going to think. Oh, like, like I'm, I don't give a shit most of the time. Like I really don't care. Uh, no, I actually,
Speaker: I think you do care. No, I really, my wife does. And that makes me, that makes me care. So no, no, no, no. No, I'm saying in a sense, because us as men, us as men have been trained. The floor hurts. I feel that us as men have been trained how to treat other people, other, you know, rather be older,
Speaker: younger, male, female, kids, it don't matter. Us as men have been trained how to treat other people, but nobody's been trained how to treat men. Well, I mean, from what I'm running into right now, and I'll speak on my current situation. I mentioned, I've become really bitter.
Speaker: And I'm trying not to be. And I feel terrible for my kids because there are some things that I do that I can't control that I'm trying to get better at, et cetera, et cetera. And it makes me feel like just the worst fucking person in the world.
Speaker: when I do certain things. I had a fucking episode in front of my kids a couple months back and I've just completely fucking ruined me because they're not supposed to see that side of dad, right? That's not for them. That's not for their eye. They're not supposed to see dad break down. And when
Speaker: Now I'm trying to like change it, but it turns into anger. And some of the things that I used to do in the military that, like I said, that was kind of my identity. Some of the things that I used to do in the military, like little pet peeves that used to get me, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. You're a dad. You're not Sergeant or Jack. You're not this, you're not overseas. This clutter is not going to kill anybody.
Speaker: It's just going to trip you up and you're going to hurt yourself, but you'll be okay. Stop yelling at the kids. But what I said though was us as men, us as a dominant figure, us as Alpha or whatever it is that you want to call it. We are trained
Speaker: on the
Speaker: a shitty situation. Maybe you shouldn't have reacted the way that you did. Did you apologize to your children? Yes. And the problem is I hate the fact that I've apologized as often as I have to my children.
Speaker: No, dude, you should be ecstatic that you, no, no, you're humble enough to do this, this thing that you should do. Like absolute, no, dude, like, Oh my God. Like I love you treated in a respectful way. Yeah. No, no, no. Like if there's anything you should do is if you should apologize, if you have done wrong and if like, I apologize to my kids all the time, like all the time. And, and cause I overreact and
Speaker: I have no reason for it like just because I'm a grumpy dick sometimes or because the because the job that I work I work today motherfuckers like I I was fucking snapping next in cash checks today. That's what I was doing. Okay, like I came home and I was a grumpy motherfucker right like but
Speaker: And I did not take it out of my kids. But if I had, I tell you what, I would I would wholeheartedly apologize to them. And you should. And Connor, you should not apologize for apologizing. Absolutely not, dude. It's it's it's embarrassing, though. It's it's not it's not that it's not. Yes and no. Yes and no. No, no, no. It's that it's that as a father, as as like my dad is my idol.
Speaker: My dad is teaching them you're teaching them But I look back at the times when he got upset And it was never it was never Like like I feel terrible for you to only get upset when you need to be upset Should I apologize to my should I apologize to my kids for hitting them with a stone cold stunner? I
Speaker: No, I've never, I've never, I've never touched any of my kids. I'm just, I'm just saying like, you should, if you feel that you should apologize, then you apologize. And if you don't feel like you should apologize, don't apologize. But I'm just saying that like, you shouldn't feel bad for apologizing. That is a good thing. That's a, that's a straight up good thing. That's a, that, that, that, that means you're humble enough to know that you did wrong. It's, it's, it's, it's doing the wrong though. It's, it's that part that I'm like pissed off at myself about.
Speaker: OK, but like everyone does getting to the point where you have to apologize to your own fucking kids for being a shit. No, no, no, no, no. There was time whenever you should apologize for being a shit dad when you're actually being a shitty dad. But whenever they don't get kids, you wouldn't apologize. Period. You wouldn't apologize. If you were a shitty dad, you would not apologize. You would just be a shitty dad. Right there. Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, right now I could go on about another veteran. I really could go on about another veteran. That's something that I am personally experiencing, but I'm not going to do that to that person. No, that's what their Saturday shows for. You can do it there. All right. Now, um, Eric or Mario, what I'm going through right now.
Speaker: Mark kind of knows, but at the same time, that's not what this show is about. No, we're not here to talk about other people. We're here to talk about ourselves. Yeah. It's cause it's all about me as Toby Keith once said me. Yeah, it's about me. It's about it. Honestly, it's about all of us.
Speaker: what I know what I want. I think you've talked more this time than you have in both of the shows that I've had. Probably because now I've actually had a little bit of time to, you know, assess the audience and know who I, I mean, the group. I've already got the audience on the other hand. I really don't see. No, we do.
Speaker: I tell you what, it's one thing that I really appreciate about Mark and Brian and about what they do. And it's one thing that I pride myself and Jeff and Connor on and Steven on, uh, anybody who's a part of not only just his network, but I mean, Jeff and I started three years ago doing this podcasting thing together, uh, with, with nonsensical nonsense. And one thing that I pride myself on and I pride the guys that I'm surrounded by with.
Speaker: Blazing and whatnot is we're real. We're real people who Have no problem. We don't we don't play a role. We don't play a gimmick. It's not a shtick It's who we are. And you know the great thing about creating this network for me alcoholic Yeah Hey, I thought he claimed he was a champ. I wish I wish I played an alcoholic on podcasts, but unfortunately It's just me in real life
Speaker: I am the champ, right? Maybe just on the podcast, but you know, I just really enjoy being on here and being able to talk with, uh, with, uh, other veterans and kind of experiencing that what I went through in the branch I went in, it's the same as what they went through as well.
Speaker: no, I really appreciate Mark. I really do appreciate you. I want me to be a part of this this year. Brandon doesn't really count because, you know, he's not even the other person, so. Yeah, well, that's why, Wes, that's why I told you beforehand, before the show yesterday, I think it was we talked or the day before, one or two, the day that we planned on doing this a monthly show.
Speaker: Yeah, I'm all for it. Let's do it. And that's why we're gonna call it a free -for -all. I mean, I got stories. I got horror stories. Yeah, we're just going to know a bunch of military men in there and let them just bullshit their way, you know, and in the fact that you know, the fact that I'm not going through what I'm going through alone helps me just being on here and just talking. Yeah, the brotherhood always helps.
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Speaker: Oh, nice, man. Appreciate that. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, there's been times where more times than I'd like to admit to where I've had to go. All right. I'm going to walk back to my bedroom. I'm going to walk outside because if I don't, I'm going to strangle you. It's going to look like Homer Simpson and Bart, you know, and I have to and I have to I have to walk away and I have to collect my thoughts and then I have to come back and readdress the situation.
Speaker: after I take a few seconds to calm down. Like I said, I think that you're you're getting learned from you. Yeah. Hey, hold on. I haven't said this in a while. So fuck you, Steven.
Speaker: Hey man, I didn't know this was gonna turn into an episode of dad's worldwide, but I appreciate you guys That'll be the 13th I Gotta be honest with you man. This is the great thing about you know in this start starting this show Has has been something I've wanted to do for a long time the men's men's mental health show and
Speaker: And something that there were a lot of people behind me, there was people yelling at me wanting to know why I wasn't doing a men's mental health show. And, you know, being a dad is, is, is a part of your, your relationships, parenting, work, dealing with our problems, dealing with the, you know, like, you know, I never in the military, I suffer from anxiety. I suffer from severe anxiety, social anxiety, depression. I do have,
Speaker: a form of PTSD, not as bad as others, but there are times and environments that it's never serving in the military. There's certain things that I do understand when it comes to our veterans because there's like Rob said, don't poke me in my chest, don't go nose to nose with me. There's things that trigger me and I instantly go into flights out the window, it's fight time.
Speaker: Yeah. You know, there's no stands or butts. There's no talking out of this. This is just how it's going to go right now here and now. You know, so things my entire life. I've done things that I'm not proud of and whatnot that I still have to deal with and I have to live with every day. I think we all are really well. So so like I fully agree with you, brother.
Speaker: So there's things like I may not know, no. Yeah, but I understand to a certain degree when it comes to our veterans. What the fuck? Oh, I'm third quarter. I mean. No, no, I think I mean, I like. Yeah. No, I think that we we all have. Thank you, brother. Yeah, you've definitely been here since I was since I was in Charleston. You're you're you're one of the G's on Periscope, my friend. Yeah.
Speaker: I think we all have similarities in so many ways. I mean, whether or not you served or not, but if you're a parent, like, yeah, like there's just, yeah, like that's a new classification. That's like you being in the military. We're all dads, you know, for the most part here. Sometimes when it's come to my kids, I wish I was staring down.
Speaker: by myself, 200 jihad. I was being late today. I was wrestling my four year olds and trying to put a pull up on her. She was like, she was like a fucking, she was like,
Speaker: I'd rather be sent into a cave to clear out like a whole bunch of Taliban that have to deal with my kid today. It's fucking ridiculous. It's fucking ridiculous. But I got two daughters that have a have a weekly friend that comes once a month. And every time I'm like, please, somebody send me to the desert for this week.
Speaker: But still, still in the end, I think in the end, if I'd rather be classified as a veteran or anything like that, like I would still tell people like, like if someone talked to me, I would be like, no, I'm a dad. Like that's, this is my number one thing. So that's, that's a problem. What's that? That's a problem.
Speaker: No, no, I'm classified as a mentally ill problem. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Trust me, I know. Can I hug you? I feel like what you know, what you know.
Speaker: about my mental illness with just about fitting a cup of coffee. Don't hug him. Don't hug him. He's a biter and I haven't seen all of his shots yet. Dude, I was in the Coast Guard. I'm all about biting. It's the first thing to teach you a basic... It goes hard. Just bite.
Speaker: If someone pokes you in the serum like he'll fuck him up I'm like, yeah, I'll scratch the shit out of that person
Speaker: I feel like I feel like I feel like Jeff and Brendan get into a fight in the yard and I go I got to go out there with a water hose and spray the ladies off because they're biting and scratching each other. Oh, my God. I don't know where they're right there.
Speaker: I don't know if I should put this up or record it. Jeff and Jeff gets into a fight. I want you to record it. It's going to be in my hidden folder for when I'm horny by myself.
Speaker: the the
Speaker: Lick was supposed to try to get you guys to, you know, cry tonight. And that's what I've been waiting for is the whole crying portion. You guys down. I was going to try to go down a road, but it was just like, you know what? I'm just going to let nature take care of her. And I got to be honest with you, man. I think what's happened tonight. I think the conversations we've had.
Speaker: I stand behind that juice Even if you would have even if you would have planned out what you wanted to do with military guys planned out
Speaker: Because I told John Thursday, I don't plan nothing. I asked a question. That's about it. The rest will be these guys talking. And it worked out perfect the way that it went. And today even worked out because you guys didn't really talk over each other. Like on, you know, Thursday, they were talking to each other where all of them were talking at once pretty much. And, you know, I mean, it was it was a good show, though. I mean, tonight was a great show and
Speaker: the same thing
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Speaker: but he got kicked out
Speaker: It's not me. I'm in an office by myself. West, you guys have a talking in the background. I do have a little bit of talking in the background, but whatever came across here, that just talking shit. No, that wasn't for me. This is like I'm watching TikToks while I'm live. No, no, no, no. I'm actually sitting here, you know, listening to the conversation. Yes.
Speaker: the the the
Speaker: I'm kidding. I'm not, I'm not as sophisticated as the rest of you guys. I'm sorry. No, I got, I, my mic will pick up everything. So yeah, my kids are, it's summer vacation. So this week, the kids are at their moms. They won't be back until Friday. So next week, the shows will have my kids all in the background coming in. Cash will come in here.
Speaker: Ask me 900 wrestling questions while I'm doing this show. Random wrestling wrestlers from Cash. Oh, hey, Glick, when we do the wrestling show at the end of next month, tell Cash we want his picks too. I'll tell him to come and sign me if he's here. OK. Yeah, I'll let him voice his own opinion. Yeah, because the date I gave you probably will change.
Speaker: But yeah, we'll talk. We'll talk about my dog here week because the next week. Over the 4th of July weekend, Nikki and I are going to Louisville for her birthday. Yeah, that'll be my daughter's fourth of July. Be my daughter's 22nd birthday. Yeah, nice.
Speaker: What's your daughter's birthday? July 4th. My son's birthday, 19th birthday, was yesterday.
Speaker: I see that, and by the way, happy birthday to you. You ever do that and feel like a retard? All the time. All the time. I did it today in the store. I'm reaching for it first. Sorry, I'm just... I'm just a little slow. That's all it is. Let's go. I'm special. Give me a moment. Give me a moment. I'm just... Slowly, it fades from the veterans.
Speaker: Not even a venture and I find myself doing that sometimes I just go I just want everyone to know that was army Air Force Navy So what you guys have gotten out and you guys been out for a Time now
Speaker: Are there moments in your life now to where it kind of makes you have like a matrix moment and go, wait a minute. I'm having a deja vu of something I've done in my past. Oh, yeah. At least three times a week. All the fucking time left all the fucking night. And I've been out for.
Speaker: My god since oh to Damn So it just never goes away So yeah stuff that you were trained on you see it now and you're like what the fuck No, this is something Connor and I were talking about the other day We we were talking about going to a restaurant got to be able to see the exit got to keep my back to Nothing's behind me hard wall preferably brick
Speaker: Uh, and it, even then I'm like, yeah. Um, and then of course, uh, as Connor was saying, what's fastest way I can get the kids out of here. Yeah. Every day. If you can't get them the fastest way out, the most secure way of saving them. Right. Exactly. And always, always on guard, especially here.
Speaker: I mean, I was driving through town and came across a trash bag that was in the middle of a roundabout and it made me freak the fuck out. Pull over for 25, 30 minutes. You know, stand off 300 feet or 300 meters and call a DOD. But I realized that I'm not over there. I'm home. No, it's a little shit. You know, I think I have a lot. A little shit like that. That fucking makes all of us think.
Speaker: I think I have a lot more in common with you guys than you think I have. I understand you think that and I'm not trying to be a dick, but you haven't lived it. So you don't fully understand. I understand that.
Speaker: But you've seen somebody kick that bag and not be there anymore. Yeah, I mean, I get that. I really do get that to us, you know, to a certain degree. But I mean, I I get I could easily say the same thing. You guys haven't lived my life. So you don't understand. I get that. I have more similarities than you guys think. And I might understand more than you guys think that I do, because like you said, I do the same thing in restaurants.
Speaker: You know, sometimes I don't even think Nikki realizes, but she'll go to sit down and I'll just slide in where she's going to sit down because I have to be that I have to be in that exact spot. You know, if I'm in a crowded place, there's been several times where we've been. At like a fair or something like that, just out of instinct, I go like that. I'm like shit, I can't. It's yeah, OK, it's not. You ever lost your mind on a complete stranger for something that they think is completely trivial?
Speaker: I'm just saying like, I think I understand a little bit more than that. Did you guys think I do? Well, believe it or not, I don't think it's instinct anymore. It's fear.
Speaker: Yes. Yeah, it's definitely it's definitely like adrenaline like an adrenaline dump. Right. Like like like I was so nine years in the border patrol and after patrolling like I'm not saying like I had a ton of shit happen, but like after I left.
Speaker: like I would hear police sirens and I would have an instant adrenaline dump. And it was just like, my brain was like, where do I need to go to back this person up? Like,
Speaker: I need to help this person. Like I need to help this cop. Like I knew like, like boom, like I was just like an instant, like no joke. I'm plumbing someone's sink. And like, I hear sirens and I'm like, wow. Like, like, I don't want you to go. Like it was crazy. It was, it, I would say it persisted for about a year.
Speaker: the the the
Speaker: Everybody has been within a platoon squad style element, right? You had your platoon, your squad, your company, in a sense. Team. If you guys were brought back to your squad right now, would you trust all those guys now? Wait, say that again? If you were brought back to your squad now and all your guys from your squad,
Speaker: And I'm talking about the ones that you told totally trusted at one point in time. Would you come back and be willing to put your life on the line for them again? Every second. Well, that happens now. Now, the other question, second part to it. Would they call you every time? Right. There we go. No, it shouldn't be a question on on the question. It should be no.
Speaker: that call me yeah we do have somebody we can talk to them without a doubt if any if any one of them six then one of them six motherfuckers give me a call right now it's an eight this is what's happening I need fucking help I'm like all right
Speaker: the the the
Speaker: We're taking over Ecuador, man. Easily. We got a team now, buddy. Oh, yeah. Quiero Ecuador. See, I speak Spanish. We're good. And here's the thing, though, with the skills I've picked up and the skills he's picked up, we need only like four more guys in a zodiac. We're ready to go. Yeah, I can say that. Oh, my gosh, my squad. That's what that's. That's what I was just cool. But we'll take over a fucking country.
Speaker: I said if I was calling one of the guys from my squad right now to do something, just the two of us would take over a fucking country. I think you underestimate how big a country is. You underestimate how powerful the two of us are with a squad that I ran with. Well, you guys can have Ecuador. I'm still going to go take Canada.
Speaker: No, I can't. God damn cold. I'd rather be in the hot cold. Yeah. Hell no. So long as my AC works, I'm good wherever I am. Yeah. See, that's where you're wrong. Yeah. Lieutenant Connor, how are you going to take over a country even Ecuador? All I need is two surgeries and I'm on my fucking way.
Speaker: the the
Speaker: Yeah, he he wound up catch. He was part of the 80 second large over Minnesota Jarvis. If we took over Minnesota, I don't think anybody in the United States would blow your fucking eye.
Speaker: the end of the
Speaker: You mean the little Somalia? I'll be in Minnesota. Yeah, years, years, years ago, I was I was on Periscope and I was streaming one night and there was a bunch of Canadians in there. And I was having fun with them and we were and I was busting their balls and my chat was fucking with them. We were all fucking with each other. I said, fuck it. I declare war on Canada right here and now. And they're like,
Speaker: Hey, Sarah boot that we didn't mean to cause no problem. And I was like, so we like had this whole fucking treaty decoration or whatever you want us where where I would not invade Canada because I can easily one man take over the entire country. I love the Canadians. We got harvest of Southern Canadian because he's in Minnesota. But there's a Canadian fan base that I that I think is awesome. And we have fun with each other.
Speaker: and uh we always fuck around with each other but they're like, hey, I mean, let's be honest, you can probably take it. So, there's a little town right outside of Minneapolis, Saint Paul called White Bear, Minnesota and I happen to work on the communication tower that was based inside White Bear, Minnesota. This was 20 plus years ago and
Speaker: It happened to be on the same property as the police department. Well, it was very cold outside. I had to take a piss and being a common white dude, y 'all know where this is going. But I wanted to piss in all over the side to the sidewalk, the side entry and the roof of that fucking building. That was about 175 feet in the air.
Speaker: Jesus Christ. Oh, you're just trying to, you know, write your name and then a couple of cops come walking out a few minutes later and I just waved at him. I'm like, what do y 'all gotta do? You couldn't see shit. I'm white dude. I believe we're allowed to do that. The the the Royal Canadian police are as a as a fan of true crime. The the Royal Canadian police are something else.
Speaker: the the the
Speaker: No, no, we, we gotta be on the lookout for a certain person watching. They show, they, they are CMP showed up, right? Royal, Royal, uh, Canadian, Canadian mounted police. Yeah. Yeah. They show up and they're just like,
Speaker: meh i don't know it was like they didn't give a shit i was like i was like i'm like you're telling me that the description of this person is this and they're like yeah i'm like well if they show up i'm just gonna shoot them i'm not even gonna fucking like try to arrest them i'm like they're just huge like this is ridiculous they were just like what these people don't run in it's jumpy
Speaker: Yeah, these people were just not serious. They were just ridiculous. No, I mean, Jeff and I were talking one time because like I said, Jeff's not really under the I love true crime. I love true crime stuff. I think it was they called him the Canadian Dexter. And this cat just had bodies in his trunk, trunk blood running out. They were just in trash bags.
Speaker: and he was transported and he got pulled over for a bus to tell at or speeding or whatever. And the Canadian police department, you can see everything or just like be safe. You know, it was like a couple of months later, they discovered he had bodies in his backyard. He had burned his mom alive. And the night that he got pulled over, he had two bodies in trash bags and he was literally just taking the throw in a dump. It was just like
Speaker: Yeah, what's his name? Pinkerton that the pig farmer up there who had like 40 they 47 confirmed kills. They think that he had upwards of 100 kills, but he owned a pig farm. So he basically I thought it they were saying that he had over 250. He basically just mutilated the bodies because he had a pig farm. So he processed them out and
Speaker: multiple times they had him dead to rights, but because it was a hooker or a drug addict or whatever, they're like, yeah, you're not telling the truth. Move along. And this time, this this is catch just killing women like it's his fucking job. However, as of last week, he's in critical condition in a Canadian hospital because somebody took a broomstick and fucking speared the hell out of his ass.
Speaker: they broke a broomstick and like whittled it down and **** gored his **** with with it and he's in uh I said we let him die but you know that's Canadian, Canada, not America but yeah. Alright, um so I'm going to give you a little bit of insight. So, some of you guys are from Florida. Correct. No, no. Some. None of them. No, just Mark. Just me and Brian.
Speaker: So, y 'all, y 'all remember the just, just for Lutzford. Like 20 years ago, the one from our county. Yup. The guy that wound up killing her, John Cooley, uh, wound up being sentenced to, uh, death. So he was in a death row and he got asked cancer and died.
Speaker: No, he didn't. He got stabbed. No, he got it. He died of cancer. Yeah, I know. That's what they told you. He got an ass cancer. All right. No, he didn't get an ass cancer. He wound up getting stabbed just above. He got gangrene and they pass it off as ass cancer.
Speaker: I'm sure that's what they that's what they told everybody. So yeah, I know that's what they put out, but I actually know a couple of the guards that were part of death row at the time. Yeah, we'll talk about that later. Yeah, but no, he got a lot worse depth than what people think. Alright, I click I should have done this the other day, but I'm doing it today. I'm actually what is this question here?
Speaker: Yeah. Jeff, I look forward to your show tomorrow. I appreciate that buddy. And, uh, hopefully you, uh, actually you don't like wrestling. So what matter? You won't know. Yep. But I'm, I'm grateful that you, uh, you know, you're allowing us to, uh, follow you tomorrow night. Hey Jeff, I'll be on there as a guest as preferred as, you know, a follower. I'll watch it. Yeah. Um,
Speaker: do you have an actual page for your show yet yeah actually the bio link is um it's actually in there yeah well i got the i got a bio link for it bear with me two seconds i'll get it tomorrow i'm the only one who does not have pages for my shows you should actually no i don't have no pages for your show either
Speaker: the the
Speaker: And when I'm doing it, but I just put on nonsensical network and you know From your personal page as long as your fault, but you can actually post in the network page Brian I know I just I just do it No, no, no, no, no, no, fuck you. All right, I will talk to you guys later Have a good night
Speaker: Um, yeah, that's all I need is I need more social media for Vince men. Uh, what the fuck news, uh, nonsensical nonsense and clicks out some music. I need, I need four more sets of social media. I'll just, I'll just, as the creator of the network, I'll just put everything on the network pages. Talk to me, man. I can come over some good shit for you.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I encourage you guys to come in any Saturday night. Saturday night, we open the doors. We call it an open door challenge and we encourage anybody to come in.
Speaker: Come in and stay as long as you want We drop the link in the chat. So literally all you have to do is click it Monday nights, I you know, I encourage all men Brendan. I would actually love to get you up here on a Monday. Yeah, that's my dick sucking night I'm not sure that's gonna happen That's my coast cards I don't want to interfere with your dick
Speaker: Yeah. What day do you suck dick? I'll clear my schedule. You should really come over.
Speaker: I'm not doing a show tonight, but I'm going to Massachusetts is that I'm a I'm a lovely I'm a lovely father as good as I try to be but The whole host all the shows are coming
Speaker: I really wish Rob was here at this point.
Speaker: 20 bucks is 20 bucks. Come on now. Yeah. Oh, I'm not paying him. He does it. Wait, wait, wait. I'm doing this for money. I was going to rent a bus and everything. I was going to do like, like, like, you know, like, like the bus and everything and drive up to Massachusetts.
Speaker: take me up along the way. I mean, it's the lobsters, the green and a blue job. That's a hell of a day. That's a good day. Lobsters, weed and blue job. I'm down. I will get on that bus every day of the week.
Speaker: This is the funny thing is Nick is like, where are you going? Don't worry about it. I'll be back in a few days. At the time, like I had nothing to do with marijuana. Like now, if you're like, hey, we should go find some marijuana, I'd be like, yeah, let's do it. Like at the time, I was like, hey, listen, we don't have to look very hard. I already know all the hookups. Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm like, yeah, let's do this. I could find some. I got that shit on speed dial. I've got I've got contact from the patrol.
Speaker: Oh, God. Just ask Siri. Siri, call weed guy number four. Call Mennonite motherfucker with a trailer. Siri, call Pedro. We found a Mennonite with a low boy trailer with 1 ,100 pounds of marijuana. Wow. Dude, that's crazy.
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Speaker: the the the the
Speaker: My fiance's from the area. She's she's one of those people. She's she's not a user. She's been out. I remember. No, I remember. Trust me. I know. Yeah, she's not a user, but she she grew up about 45 minutes north of Pittsburgh. Bad news is rum springer is almost up, buddy. Use guys use guys tell. Now, what do you mean by use guys? Do you mean?
Speaker: easy. You're going to trigger Rob. Rob's going to pop back in all of a sudden with the baby. You don't want that, Erica. You don't want that. Yeah. Yeah. I have a question. Sure. We might have an answer. No. No. I mean, it's it's men helping men. So no.
Speaker: Sorry. Next to you, buddy. Go for it. What made you regret going into the military? All of it. No, seriously. What was the one thing that made you go, Oh, fuck, I shouldn't be here. Honestly, they Jimmy died. Who who who died? Jimmy, my spotter. That sucks. Yeah. Well, he was right next to me.
Speaker: Yeah, that's bad. Yeah. Yeah, it was not good. Yeah, yeah. It was even worse for the guy that killed him. Yeah. Like, that was almost a court -martial. Apparently, when you tie somebody up and light the room on fire or sit outside and smoke a cigarette, it's not good. What? Wait a second. Like, did you drown upon that? A little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Not cool.
Speaker: Oh, are we still going? I'm sorry. I thought everyone was in shock and awe. I have already heard lots of things. You've heard this story. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Jeff's shock and awe doesn't work on me. Yeah. Take your semi -boner and just let it release. It was not a good day. No. I regretted joining the military the day that they said it didn't matter what I did. I could never come back.
Speaker: I get that. It didn't matter what I do. It doesn't matter how many surgeries you get. It doesn't matter how good you feel afterwards. You'll never come back. Well, you could join the Coast Guard. They could sit around with you. I could have gotten it.
Speaker: Although I've already done basic training twice, I don't feel like doing it again. Yeah, but basic training in Coast Guard is just sitting there at a desk. No, no, basic training, they work for the border, sorry, Coast Guard, they work good in two shoes. You work on a good in two shoes. Yeah, they keep trying to use Excel.
Speaker: Everybody in their sister because I was in, uh, I was at Fort Bliss in El Paso. Everybody in their sister, when they were like, Oh, I'm on my way to ETS. I'm going to join the border patrol. I'm like, you're fucking idiot, dude. I was a now Maguardo.
Speaker: Yeah, dude, first of all, all right. Shout out to Al Magordo. I love Al Magordo. I love Al Magordo. I would have rather been in Al Magordo at Holloman Air Force Base than being at Fort Bliss. Fort Bliss was hell on earth.
Speaker: Well, I was a Border Patrol Asian in Alamogordo, which was different than Holloman Air Force Base. Although I did beat up a lot of Airmen when I played indoor soccer. But yes, go ahead. You know, you know, it was fun. It was fun. It was fun. You were really cool. We were going to let the whole Coast Guard thing slide and everything like that.
Speaker: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I beat up on the airman at Haldeman Air Force Base. I feel like that should count for something. Hey, I was in the air. They're airmen. I know when you see Connor. I used to be a fucking airman. Oh, I know. Yeah. And I can tell you from worst firsthand experience, you soft son.
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Speaker: I'm walking down the street. I got glitched. Talk. I got glitched. Talk. Well, you used to be there anyways. You used to walk pranks around the the DC saying that. So. I got glitched. One moment made you realize that you shouldn't be there. The moment I landed in Coronado. Oh, shit.
Speaker: The moment I saw the beach on Coronado. I would say the moment I. Oh yeah, I don't know the moment I was. Yeah, the second time a lobster pinched your balls, I was so bad. I feel you know crabs next to your crabs. All right. You should have gotten medals for days, man.
Speaker: You are out there doing this country a service. You don't even know. He got a Coast Guard achievement medal for hanging the most amount of lobsters off his dick hair.
Speaker: Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. I mean, that was a feat. Thank you. 14 new Guinness World Record. Look it up. Thank you for your service, Brendan, because if it hadn't been for you, I couldn't enjoy surf and turf nights at my local seafood restaurant. Yeah. Next time you're at a Red Lobster and you find a hair in your food, think of Brendan. Yes. I agree with all of what they just said.
Speaker: We did have a Marine on here earlier today, Erica. Rob Mello, super cool, badass. He did have to dip out. He had to go watch the Celtics beat the hell out of the Pacers.
Speaker: Yeah. He had to go eat some crayons. So, I don't know. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't bring it. I didn't bring his snacks out for him. Oh, is that what happened? He adored Dash to big old box of sixty four Crayolas and they got to the 64. You could do that on a break. Yeah.
Speaker: Well, you don't get to leave here in perpetuity and not get made fun of. Hang on. I got to find out of here. We got to fuck it with him. So the moment for me realizing I shouldn't be here. What? Well, the question was the moment you realize you shouldn't be in the branch that you're in or being in the service period, right? Yeah. That was the original question. Yeah. When did you realize that?
Speaker: when i was coming off of a personal personal security detail mission driving back to my home baby huh was that the one where you guys got hammered with the three star no that's a different one yes i need you to put that on the shelf we were i was driving back i was a driver and i happened to look over
Speaker: Just put it in the private chat you two Jesus Christ So I just came out personal security detail and Driving back to my home base And I'm
Speaker: Six lane highway, three lanes going north, three lanes going south. I'm in the middle lane doing about 85 mile an hour. Looked over left side, seeing another large SUV pass by me with a small kid, just bouncing around in the back seat. You know, us in the US looking at that now going, we're not in the seventies and eighties no more.
Speaker: That kid should be in a car seat. Well, they got about 250 yards ahead of me, passenger side tire blew out front and wound up side swiping a large van, went back into a Jersey wall, flipped and I watched the kid fly out of the vehicle.
Speaker: Was this on deployment or was this on deployment? This was not in the US. Holy shit. I got the new Marine Corps uniform. Yeah, there you go. It comes with a lingerie set for the ladies. That was the moment for you. That was the moment realizing I should not be here.
Speaker: I'm assuming that you've seen some shit based off of some of the comments you've made and we don't have to go into it or anything like that. But that was the, that was the moment that was like watching a kid in another country. And after everything came to a settle and avoiding the accident altogether, being the driver,
Speaker: Got in front of the accident. Everybody got out, started running towards the people of the accident. I ran out towards the kid. And when my team leader or my squad leader, I was team leader goes, where are you going? I said, I'm going to the kid. And he goes, what kid? I said, you didn't see it. I mean, I get it. I understand.
Speaker: And then when he finally seen the kid laying about 50 yards ahead of me, he went, Oh shit. I said, call our reserves off. Cause he was on the phone already calling the base saying, Hey, get our personal emergency response out here. I'm like, don't do it. It's a waste of time.
Speaker: Guys, whenever I went back to the kid, he didn't have a face. Yeah. They're ready to speed and everything like that. That is what kills me. I was going to say that is kind of crazy. Like I said, I get it and I understand.
Speaker: It's kind of crazy. Like that was the moment for you, not some of the other things that, you know, you might've seen or, or been a part of or, or anything. And like I said, we don't have to go to any of those details or anything like that. I didn't know what I'm getting into. Yeah. I knew what I signed up for. That wasn't part of it. No, exactly. And I think, I think a lot of guys, depending upon what, what your job
Speaker: What's your job is? I think most guys, they know what they're signing out for. You know, like for me, you know, when I wanted to, when I wanted to go into the army, the first thing I wanted to do was taken away from me. I had to, I had to find a different job because I was the last of a bloodline. I was a quote unquote sole survivor. Right.
Speaker: And I was like, okay, cool. I'll make the best of it. I found another job. And then it was the medical stuff that, that, that, that, that I didn't disqualify me, so to say. But yeah, I think, I think for a certain degree, when you, when you join up or you enlist, you know, no matter what branch you're in, you, you know, what you're signing up for at the end of the day.
Speaker: You know, I knew what I wanted to do. I knew exactly what I wanted to do. I knew exactly where I wanted to go and what I wanted to be a part of. And then when, like I said, when that was taken away from me, it was like, yeah, cool. I'll blow shit up and build shit. And then I'll do what everybody does. I'll be an MP. Okay. That way, when I come out of the military, I'll become a cop. And there's a lot of people, I mean, don't matter what, unless you are, they all come out being a cop.
Speaker: because that's basically the only thing that the military says you're good for. Well, that's what the military says. That's what the government says. But I know a lot of guys. I got a lot of people. I won't. I use the term friends very loosely these days. There's the whole not giving a fuck about what people think about you anymore.
Speaker: Jeff knows me, I've reached that limit. And I've cut a lot of people out in my life, including my own parents. Well, my mom's dead, but my dad and my stepmom, I've excite their toxic acids out of my life because I'm at that level of, you're not really doing anything to benefit my nature, but I have associates or acquaintances or a couple of guys that are friends that, yeah, most of them either go into law enforcement or they,
Speaker: Well, no matter what they did or they do construction and they start their own jobs or their own companies. I'm sorry to hear that, man. Like I'm sorry to hear that your dad is. It was, it was, it was, it was what was, it was what was best for me. Again, men's mental health. No, no, no. Like I'm just, I like, I get it. I'm just saying I'm sorry. Yeah, it sucks. Trust me. It was not an easy decision to make, but it was, it was a decision that had to be made and it was part of that.
Speaker: that's good
Speaker: This is between him and I, and I'm not going to make you guys pick sides. This is a him and me issue. I love my dad to death, but it was one of those come to Jesus moments and it was like, yeah, this is what's going to be best for me. I don't like the decision, but you got to do what you got to do sometimes. For sure.
Speaker: There's nothing Any of us can say or do You know to put ourselves in that type of situation they say you're you know We are not the ones to say who's good enough for who hmm period And you know the unfortunate the unfortunate downside is to it is
Speaker: You know. On that same note, Nikki's too good for Chris, so. Yeah, this is true. What's going on, Sir Mikey? This is this is I mean, I got a lot of shit going on in my house, but you know what? I I I don't have nowhere to really stand on who's to say. No, so so Nikki's a good friend.
Speaker: for those of you guys who don't know, I love the healthy talking decisions. We all have to walk. Absolutely. Uh I agree. We all, we all. Nice. Sir Mike, you're the building. What's going on? That's okay. That's your best friend. Nice. That's what's up. Now, you know, my my biggest, my biggest
Speaker: My biggest fear as far as it goes with my pops and I is, and Jeff and I have known each other since we were 15, so a little clarification there. Jeff and I have known each other more than half of our lives. Unfortunately, I didn't have no choice in the matter of Jeff being my best friend. He just was like, you, big Sasquatch, you're my best friend and you're stuck with me for the rest of our lives.
Speaker: I mean, I have four step children and I love all four of myself children and their father right now and I'm not a type of person that is going to say, no, this is not your father. This is not your mother, whatever. But their father right now is in jail for heroin use and he's a veteran.
Speaker: So I'm kind of caught in a catch 22. Yeah. Let's all this business. He's also nevermind. Nevermind. Go ahead. Go ahead and give him a BJ. Is that what you're doing, Brandon? No. Yeah. Yeah. That's all. Take care of business. I don't even know how to use a gun.
Speaker: You know, if the government's listening, that's all I do is blow man. You hear that government? You should say it again. Wow. I just, I just love come. Use it on Saturday night. You know, being a stepdad and, you know,
Speaker: trying to trying to make the best decisions for my step kids without stepping on dad's toes and being a veteran on top of it. I mean it. I'm stuck.
Speaker: I'm going to dip out. I'm going to help my wife get the kids to bed and I am. Wow, what did I walk into a lot of bullshit? That's what you walked into. You missed out on the first three hours, but. Yeah, that's good. Gentlemen, it's. Come on, I bet you do.
Speaker: the the the
Speaker: We get to rag on one another. We get to, you know, do something that we normally don't get to do in our regular days. And I have to say, I love being part of this. I love being able to talk to you guys. It helps me out quite a bit. I'm very grateful that, that a mark.
Speaker: You know, let me be a part of this. I'm also, you know, the show Thursday night and to want to partner up into a two part show. I'm very grateful for it. I'm also very grateful for the fact that, and again, shout out to our veterans and today is all about Memorial Day. It's a, it's a day of remembrance. Thank you. Shout out to the ones who, you know, this is such an overplayed phrase, but it is what it is. And that's sound cliche. David.
Speaker: The ones that made the ultimate sacrifice. Because if it wasn't for the ones who made that sacrifice and our veterans, I couldn't have the platform that I have to be able to. But for them, we wouldn't be able to talk today. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to do what I do. The guys that I surround myself wouldn't be able to do what they do. I'm very grateful and I'm very thankful and
Speaker: People get to see at the end of the day, people get to see four different sides of me a week. I do four different shows. I do this one. It's a men's mental health show. We still joke and we laugh and have a good time, but it's a little bit more serious. We do what the fuck news, which is more just like fuckery and whatever. I do a music show where people get to
Speaker: see a little bit of a little bit of my world when it comes to music. Not only that, but I get to hang out with some kick -ass artists. I've been very fortunate. A few interviews or the couple of few interviews that I've got to do with some amazing people that we develop friendships. We're developing friendships and creating friendships.
Speaker: And then Saturday nights, you just get to see me be an absolute fucking loose cannon with Jeff and and anybody who joins us on Saturday nights. We're just fucking I say it all the time, man. The inmates are taking over the asylum. And any of you comic book nerds out there, any of you guys that know anything about Gotham Asylum or Arkham Asylum? I'm sorry. You know, when the Joker's taken over, I'm the Joker.
Speaker: These are my Mary Band of Misfits and we're just having fun on Saturday nights. So, you know, it's really amazing that, you know, it's not like I've got a million followers or we're making a billion dollars, but we have fun and we're genuine and we're real and we get to meet genuine real people along the way. And I love this journey. It started three years ago. Yes.
Speaker: You know, and I've loved this journey that Jeff and I started three years ago. It's a journey I started over 10 years ago with streaming on Periscope and on TikTok and then get into here. And it's really is exciting, man. And I'm grateful for it. And again, at the end of the day, when we talk about what today's all about, I couldn't do it. We couldn't do it without
Speaker: the sacrifices that have been given along the way, no matter what branch you're in. And, you know, Coast Guard gets a lot of help, but at the end of the day, let's be honest. You guys have moved up a wrong because right below you now is space force. All right, gentlemen, I have to get up early in the morning and go to work. And I still have a full time live. Yes, I do too. I had to go back to work. I've been off since Friday.
Speaker: same oh all right erica very grateful thank you chill that's what's up my guy babe and chill that was that was one of my that was one of my toes i did on periscope uh love you too it's code for chris being in the garage playing with dildos
Speaker: Basically, that's what I do. My ex -wife used to sell dildos quality assurance. Yes. So she sold the big green weaning for the army.
Speaker: Yeah. No, we were talking about it one day. My ex -wife used to do pure romance. It was like don't know who's invited and all that crap. And I have sex toys. I had like two totes full of shit in my garage where I used to do my periscope live show. And now, mind you, I've got like
Speaker: I got, I don't even know, like 500 some odd people in my life. They're like, there's no fucking way, bro, that you got two totes full of dildos and shit. I'm like, I'm drinking. I'm drunk and sound. I'm like, yeah, I do. But I just start pulling out dildo and I'm like wiggling them around. Yeah.
Speaker: I can tell you about a time where I served a search warrant on a dude that, uh, had a bunch of, uh, nevermind. You don't need to hear it. I don't know. I want to know. I might not need to know, but I want to know. And then just stop Joe. All right, gentlemen.
Speaker: Well, it was always a pleasure talking with all of you. I do say this to all of our veterans tonight. And like I said, I don't say this to every veteran I meet. I say this to the veterans that I meet and I get the opportunity to talk to and hang out with. And they're guys that I would like to drink with and whatnot. Thank you for your service and thank you for everything, man. And that goes out to Brian, Rob, Connor,
Speaker: and everybody that's been a part of this or anybody that's in the chat that is, you know, thank you guys. Seriously. I mean that from the bottom of my heart, Brendan, we're working on it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe not all of it. Yeah. No, this, this has actually been pretty fucking awesome, especially, uh, last week and into this week, and you get to talk with some of the same guys. It's been, um, it's been helpful.
Speaker: Yeah. And and and you know, so all the guys, the doors always open. You guys are welcome but on on on on on all the shows, you know, this is a personal thing. Don't take it personally. The only show that people are not welcomed on are Friday nights. I like to do my interviews one on one. But any of the other shows, you're always welcome. Hey, he he just like that. He he just like that uh
Speaker: I was actually looking forward to crying tonight, but
Speaker: You know, Wes, I'm going to get you on a Monday night show. I want to get you on a Monday night show. Like I said, I would like to get Brendan on here. Brendan, in all honesty, the whole dad thing, I would in your schedule, you let me know when you're available. All right. I would love to get you on here and I would love to dedicate a show for and I think Jarvis. I'm available for seven o 'clock on Mondays.
Speaker: Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah, we could do it. I mean, I would love to do a show dedicated and Wes. I mean, obviously, I'd like to get you up here again as well. And, you know, depending upon the subject and or if there's something in particular you want to talk to, tell Mark to get you my social media. And if there's something in particular you want to talk about. No, I'll hit you up. You'll know it's me.
Speaker: Yeah. Well, we'll we'll make it happen. Well, like I said, specifically, Brendan, I would love to have you on here and and the topic of conversation of being a dad because, as I said, I fucked up Thursday night. Yeah. Thursday night just went fucking haywire. That's what happened Thursday night. That was fucking haywire and it was fucking amazing.
Speaker: I thank you for that. I mean, I mean, honestly, Thursday, I was extremely tired. Work 14 hours. I was tired that night. I really was. So thank you guys. Love you all. Thank you. Much love, brother. All right. We'll talk to y 'all later.
Speaker: Uh, I don't know what it is that you do, Erica. Honestly, we've been friends for a hot minute. Now, uh, I couldn't have asked for it. Mark. No. Wow. Bye. Bye. That one postcard joke too many. Jesus Christ. Is that the line? Thank you, Brandon as well. Thank you for being here, man. Much love, brother.
Speaker: Uh, I look forward to, to, to link it up and doing something with you. It won't be as hectic and haywire. Uh, it'll just be the normal guys. Not so much yelling and talking over each other, but now, uh, great, great two shows. Shout out to Mark. Um, you know, Mark said he was just going to kind of sit back and hang out. Uh, shout out to Mark. Shout out to all the guys again. Uh,
Speaker: Brian, Brendan, Wes, Rob, Connor, Jeff was here tonight. All the vets who were out there listening or have listened to the replays. Hopefully you enjoyed these shows. Hopefully I did a decent job hosting and hanging out with these guys. When you're a civilian, you tow a certain line and you're really good about towing that line.
Speaker: So I'll give you that promise. What? Yeah, I saw that. I read that earlier and I was like, Oh, I need to know more. Yeah. Uh, bro.
Speaker: I need you to come up on Saturday night and come up live on the show. That story. I mean, a buddy of mine, his dad was an ER doctor. And when we were in high school and he said this kid came in with a shower curtain rod up his ass like it was stuck. And I was like. Never would have thought to use that, but OK. Fair enough.
Speaker: Oh, that's really cool, Erica. That's awesome. I didn't know you started doing that. That's fucking awesome. Oh yeah. Um, but no, awesome two shows, uh, awesome collaboration as always, you know, uh, I find myself more and more, uh, teaming up with Mark, no offense, Brian, but, uh, I do find myself, whether it be 100 % offense, Brian, uh, for men or.
Speaker: nonsensical nonsense, uh, Mark and I talking shit and I, and I say I, because I host the shows, but our shows, we, we find each other teaming up more and more, uh, you know, and, and, and all the shows are doing great things. I mean, all the shows are, uh, and I'm going to go ahead and put this out there before I play the closing song and Jeff, you're the last one standing. So I'm going to ask you for closing thoughts once we do, but, uh, if you guys are not already, go ahead and check out the nonsensical network. We are literally on all social media.
Speaker: Uh, we do shows Monday through Sunday. Uh, they're live on YouTube. You can check them out on Facebook as well. Um, and if you can't join us live and you can't hang out and be a part of the chatters box, well, you can always listen wherever you listen to podcasts that we're having fun. We're having a good time. You know, we're really enjoying hanging out with each other. Uh, Monday nights is men camp for men. It's a men's mental health show. Um, that's our focus is, is men's mental health.
Speaker: uh, Tuesday nights is Jeff's garage. This guy right here beside me, he's doing a, he's doing his, his Jeff's garage. Basically he says, if it fits in the garage, they're going to talk about it. So they might talk about your mama. If you ain't careful because that big bitch, we need to build a barn around her. But whether it's cars, whether it's trucks, whether it's semis, whether it's, it's heavy equipment or if it's tools, they're going to talk about it.
Speaker: Uh, do you need this tool? Uh, I might try to be a part of that one. Well, we do it every, we do it every episode at the beginning. Uh, so I find it's like a small section. We do like 15, 20 minutes on whatever you find.
Speaker: I don't mean to be rude, but I just got enough on my plate. That's why I get it. I get it, buddy. You know, and then like, I like this past week, I took a step back from a couple of the shows just for the simple fact I've been kind of going through the wringer. So, but, um, Wednesday nights is what the fuck news. Basically, if it's in the news and it makes you go, what the fuck? We're talking about it.
Speaker: Uh, Thursday nights is talking shit. They won't be on this Thursday night. However, they will be on right after Jeff's garage tomorrow night with special guests. I'll snow. If you're a fan of wrestling, you're going to know who I'll snow is ECW, uh, WCW, WWE, WWF, basically same company. Um,
Speaker: And, and, and so many other, uh, wrestling, uh, organizations out there. He's also a part owner of the Ohio Valley wrestling OVW. Uh, Al Snow will be joining the guys tomorrow night. I think that'll be a really good time. Uh, but typically they're on Thursday nights with talking shit, uh, pop culture, they're interviewing actors, directors, writers, all that fun stuff.
Speaker: Uh, Friday nights, this guy's back again with Glick's house of music. I'm either playing music out of my brain and that I love and that I enjoy, or we're doing interviews. I'm trying to lock down interviews. I would love for Glick's house of music to only be interviews, but, uh, it's not as easy as you guys think it would be the lockdown interviews. My focus is, uh, focuses, uh, local talent.
Speaker: Up and coming and an unsigned artist. So if you guys know anybody in your area put them in contact with me I would love to check out their music and See what they're all about and and possibly have them on the show to come hang out with me Saturday nights is the flagship show the cornerstone if you will of the nonsensical network Saturday nights is nonsensical nonsense and
Speaker: It's unhinged unapologetic comedy based we have fun and but not only that but we add a little twist to it Not a lot of podcasts doing what we're doing, but we drop the link in the chat and we open the doors We call it the open door challenge and we invite anybody and everybody to come up live with us and hang out As long as you're cool, you're gonna get to stick around if you're not cool We'll probably make fun of you before you leave on your own accord We've never we've only kicked a few people out that that's because they take their pecker out
Speaker: or, or, or they, they think they're better than they are. And we don't want to see your pecker. Uh, Sunday night, we wrap up the week and we get everybody ready to go for the weekend. Go for the week for the fall, the next week to come. Go a little low key and our boy Jarvis, Jerry Vichy, if you will, he's doing interviews and hanging out or rebranding is coming soon. Um,
Speaker: Good what up motherfucker? Shut up Connor Thank you Erica, thank you. Thank you that that means a lot to me Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you that that means a lot. I appreciate that. I really do But you can check out the network the nonsensical network. We are on all the social media platforms
Speaker: Um, Facebook, Instagram, X, tick tock. We do the shows live Monday through Sunday on YouTube and Facebook. I also throw it up on X because why not? And, uh, then if you miss this live, you can listen to all the shows. I upload all the shows for the week, every Friday. I get all the shows from the past week.
Speaker: Uploaded and you can listen to them on all your podcasting platforms No matter how big or small you listen to podcasts the network the nonsensical network is there. We have a real network We're just not putting ourselves on 35 fucking platforms and getting three views We have a real network with multiple different shows with multiple different hosts There's something for everybody
Speaker: and we're gonna continue to grow. We're gonna continue to add shows. And today, much like a day in November, speaks volumes as to why we are here, why we are able to do what we do, and why you guys are able to listen to us and enjoy the content we put out. I know I'm gonna regret saying this, but tonight, we were talking about the VA, it's one of those shows
Speaker: Well, I kind of miss Tony D. Yeah. Do you want to talk about VA? Jesus. As long as he would have been engaged and involved, Tony D is very informative when it comes to the VA and very knowledgeable with getting the veterans the helps and stuff that they need. But nonetheless, thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for hanging out. Jeff is still here. I'm still here. We're going to do a closing song here.
Speaker: Uh, I kind of pulled an audible like halfway through the show, but I am going to play this one. This is, uh, coffee in our coffee Anderson with, uh, Mr. And white and blue. Make sure you check him out. Go show him some love. Uh, he's actually not a one hit wonder. He's actually got some good music out there. Uh, we'll be back with our closing thoughts. If I have any more.
Speaker: It's the guts and it's the glory A hundred stripes, a hundred stories It's the Pledge of Allegiance on the 4th of July It's some handwritten letters from home It's some sleepless nights alone
Speaker: It's his newborn baby he left with his wife Mr. Red, White and Blue Lay down his line Mr. Red, White and Blue For these stars and stripes From the fields of Indiana To the swamps of Louisiana
Speaker: To the golden coast of California. Uncle Sam's the only family he's got. His purple heartbeat won't stop. And his 18th birthday was the day he was born. Mr. Red, White, and Blue, lay down his life. Mr. Red, White, and Blue, for these dark strikes.
Speaker: His family is proud but tall
Speaker: For these stars is trying To pay the ultimate price
Speaker: Marching line Marching line I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day.
Speaker: When he said, grandpa, were you a hero in the war? Grandpa said no. But I served in a company of heroes.
Speaker: It's a great song. That's a great goddamn song right there, man. Mr. Coffee Anderson. Mr. White and Blue. You're an asshole. Um. Actually. I have two things here. Good. We
Speaker: We started the show out with a video. And for anybody who makes it this long, and if you listen to the replay or if you watch the replay, I implore you to at least go to the beginning of the show and watch that video. And I was going to narrate along with it, but I kind of pushed out. I'm not going to lie. Well, it also doesn't always sync up.
Speaker: Yeah. Um, I played a video that, that, that blazing sent me and, uh, it was, it was, uh, it was the missing man or the missing missing man table. For those of you guys who don't understand what the missing man table, let me go ahead and read the script for you. If you will, if you will allow me, please. The stable is reserved to honor our missing comrades in arms.
Speaker: The table is round to show our everlasting concern for our missing men. The tablecloth is white, symbolizing purity of their motives when answering the call of duty. The single red rose displayed in a vase
Speaker: reminds us of the life of each of the missing and their loved ones and friends of these Americans who keep the faith awaiting answers. The vase is tied with a red ribbon symbol of our continued determination to account for our missing. A slice of lemon on the bread plate is to remind us of the bitter
Speaker: fate of those captured and missing in foreign land. A pinch of salt symbolizes the tears endured by those missing and their families who seek answers. The Bible represents the strength gained through faith to sustain those lost from our country, founded as one nation under God.
Speaker: The glass is inverted to symbolize their inability to share the evening's toast. The chair is empty. They are missing. For us now raise our glasses and a toast to honor America's POWs, MIAs, and to the success of our efforts to account for them.
Speaker: If you don't know what the missing man table is, I encourage you to Google it, look it up, watch videos, or we'd be surprised how many of your local establishments have one of these tables set up. So please go pay your respects.
Speaker: Whatever you said Jeffrey See I'm not the only person uh, well, I actually have the perfect quote for tonight And the quote is this the united states will remain the land of the free only so long As it is the home of the brave
Speaker: 100%. Can't. Uh oh, there we go. Yes, it is. I was honored, same pair. 100%. As far as tonight goes, and I really wish I could have, really wish I could have got all the guys.
Speaker: I should have asked for one before because I knew the show was going to go along because it always does. And I should have asked for something before that way I could have played a little something. But I do want to close the night out specifically with our flag doesn't, our flag does not fly because of the wind moves it. It flies with the last breaths of each soldier who died protecting it.
Speaker: And that's peace volumes But Connor said if not if not me then who But also as I always in Monday night shows
Speaker: I am the same exact way every Monday night. I mean this for a reason, because this is a men's mental health show. A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others have thrown at him. And if you don't understand that, you don't know what it's like to be a man. With that being said, thank you guys for listening. Thank you to all of our veterans and a very special thank you.
Speaker: to the ones who gave the ultimate sacrifice and their families. Good night.




