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C2 Ep. 85 Eberron Reviewed 16
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We take a look back on the past arc and answer your questions.
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Introduction and Sponsorship
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Podcast and Host Introduction
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D20 radio, your game is rolling.
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Hello everyone and welcome to Eberron Renewed, an actual play tabletop RPG podcast using the Genesis play system set in the Eberron campaign setting. I am Jeff.
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I'm Philip. I'm Trevor. I'm Randy. And I'm Eric. And I'm never going to get that intro right. As you can tell by the sound of my voice, this is not a regular episode. This is an Eberron reviewed. We're going to take a moment and go back and talk about the last arc. So if this is your first episode, stop and go back, preferably to the beginning of the campaign.
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Um, but okay. And we're also in person this time.
Special Episode and Arc Review
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Sorry. I keep you with my heart. So it's, it's like, we're never separated, but, uh, yes, we are, we are around all the same table for the first time in months.
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So we're very excited about that. It's awesome. So let's just jump right into it. So this arc was the second in a row that was not official Boromar business. This time Narn, who Hobbs been working with in the cogs, came to the group and asked for help to stop some abductions slash murders.
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Slash assaults. Slash assaults. Just all around bad time for the immigrants from Droem who have come to the cogs to shorn.
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Anybody can jump in at any time. This was a fairly quick arc, and we don't have a lot of questions, so this may be a 30-minute episode. We'll see what happens. Any time you lead in a review with that, it's always over an hour. I do say it too often. We always start talking about houseplains for 45
Character Developments and Challenges
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minutes. Not this time. We didn't get a houseplay question. I don't think. Anyway.
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So yeah, Hob just asked who wants to go, and everybody, this is the first time that Kath and Sana have joined us in a while. Really since the funeral, I think. Since Faroo's death, I believe, yeah. And Sidra comes as well.
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and makes it very clear several times that they will be there, they will not be engaging, and you will not get them to, do not ask them to. There shall be no combat. And we're all like, Sigil, we all get it. We've
Equipment and Strategy Discussions
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gotten it for some time. Sigil has like six wounds and zero soak. I mean, it makes Milo look hardy. I don't know, I didn't realize they were that. I mean, I don't have Sigil steadied up for combat. I mean, I'm sure it's on the character sheet somewhere, but I don't think it'll stop my head.
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Eris would really like to offer to, like, armor plate pieces of Sigil's chassis, but she has the impression that it's not like offering to make someone a suit of armor. Yeah. She has just that much tact. Yes. Just enough to realize it's not the same thing. Like plastic surgery. Right. Yeah. That's not quite something you just offer. I don't know. I got a trunk full of Botox if anyone wants it. A trunk?
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Not in my car truck, like an old timing. It's my favorite truck. You take it with you from town to town? No, I'm on board. This is stupid. Hang on, let's give Philip a moment. We go to the cogs and we meet with Smith, who this is not the first time we've met Smith, right? No, this is the first time you've met Smith.
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Who am I thinking of? Doesn't matter. We met a friend of Sigil's who was worried about Sigil. That's right. And their name was... It did also start with an S, I think. But it was that Smith.
Antagonist Reveal and Combat Strategies
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And Jeff roleplayed that character. That's right. I should have remembered the name, but I'm not gonna. I don't think I gave him the name, I think.
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I gave him a name, but yeah. I totally forgot that I had done that. Yeah. Boy, broken brain. When we get to the cogs, we meet with Smith. Smith kind of fills us in on some of what's been going on. We don't have a real clear picture of what's been going on until it's done, basically. Refers us to a half troll. Was that renamed?
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Uh, I don't know if they gave you a name whose brother was attacked. We get a chance to talk to the brother. Brother's name was Jessup, but I don't think we got a name for the injured trolls name was Jessup. I don't think we got a name for the rest of his family.
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And we get some more, I mean, okay, I'll just shoot straight with you. The listeners picked up on it way more quickly than I did. That this was a warforged that we were going to be fighting. And at this point in the recording, I was like, oh, another warforged. Cool. We gotta fight another big thing. This is what Jeff was doing. Jeff was thinking, me. That's it. That's all Jeff thought. Jeff stopped thinking there. Whereas the listeners after the,
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10 seconds of the hour. Oh man, they're going to fight the Ram again. I did not get there. Did you get, you guys got there. I did. I barely pay attention. Once it was a large thing, I was thinking either the Ram or the lizard monster that we ran away from.
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I was actually thinking the lizard monster for a long time until we got like it's it's some kind of warforged like once I was thinking the lizard as well for sure I thought the lizard first because we definitely left a giant lizard monster in the sewers so yeah the other thing is
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There's been no short, like we, I've been, I've joked about it, but it is a fact. Like I built Hob thinking this will be fun. Cause it'll be the biggest thing within a hundred miles and let every arc we find something or someone that is as big or bigger than Hob. So that's why I didn't think it has to be one. I mean, we've got a, we've got a litany of, of large things. It could have been the Ram and the lizard. And that's it.
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No, uh, I swear there was another, at least one more. Um, isn't, uh, isn't Solomon. Solomon isn't quite as big, but Solomon was very big for a human. And there was the, um, whoever was hulked out in the tube that wasn't the lizard in that fight. Norsin. Was it Norsin, right? Norsin didn't transform. Norsin was just Norsin. He was just stronger. I remember we had the discussion where you thought he hulked out and it was like, no, he's just Norsin, but looks, looks crazy. Gotcha. Um, so.
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No,
Role-playing and Character Impact
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the first time you pointed out, I realized I am using that as a narrative crutch. I need to stop doing that, because you did want to make Hob the biggest person in the room. I don't think I can hear it. But no, yeah, I did not. I did not put it together, that it was the Ram, and I feel like a dumb dumb. I mean, and yet on a level, it's not the Ram. I was about to say, is it the Ram? Which, speaking of dumb dumb stuff,
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Uh, you're right. It was the Rams chassis. Yeah. Being driven by who knows what someone. Yeah. When somebody said Ram didn't seem to recall Eric in that character going like, huh? Yeah. Well, like as soon as the hood came back, Hob went, Oh, come on. Yeah. The person reacted. Like that's a weird reaction to have in the situation. So.
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But yeah, we were getting ahead of ourselves. Yes. Because it was another character introduced. There was a new character introduced during this that we need to talk about. Oh, yes. We. Man, we just talked forever about to listen to nothing. Listen, our listeners.
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Most of our listeners play tabletop role-playing games. They know what it's like to try and make a plan. Right. It's funny because I started watching Critical Role before I started playing this
Listener Q&A on Arc
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game.
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And I remember thinking, they spent so much time on a planned thing, Noah will ultimately be abandoned as soon as the first bad guy shows up. And it really was, and I was like, oh no, I get it, that's just how you play. It's just the Indians. This is the game, okay. Yeah, we go through 67 different scenarios and then finally land on the one. It really was like, I was just waiting for Raynard. Hob was just waiting for Raynard to say, I guess I'll do it. Like, good, great, fine. It took a minute. For some reason, I just didn't think he wanted me to.
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No, we did. We very much wanted you to. In the back of my head, I was like, this seems very obvious, but I don't think they want me to. They keep talking about other options. I know. Because what it was was, I feel like the subtext was, well, if Reynard doesn't do it, then we'll have to get Narn 2. If Reynard doesn't do it, then we'll have to get Cath 2. And I remember Jeff as Hob just deeply saying, I'm not going to volunteer anyone else for this, but if somebody wants to,
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And then we go, why didn't I just do it right? So. And then we spend 10 minutes deciding what you're gonna look like and what your accoutrement are going to be. Didn't spend that long on the name, though. We kind of nailed it and won there. Yeah, I'll tell you what, first take for me over here. I mean, I did not come up with that. I found the elements of it on a null name generator. Yeah. And yeah, so snazz gunk thumb. Yeah.
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No, here's a question from Jeff. This is not from a listener. Okay. Did Raynard fall in love with Snazz Guncombe? Did Raynard fall in love with being Snazz? Is Snazz coming around again? You know, Raynard likes the arts and all of that. He liked being someone else portraying a character. He goes to see a lot of theater and he got to do a little theater himself.
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Call up Luca. Got a new character for you. He can do that any time. Yeah. Great. Yeah. I'm telling you. It's probably going to come around again. We
World Building and Name Origins
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had a hundred episode campaign with a changeling that did like three times. This ding bass is going to be every, every arc going to be different. Something or another. That was my bad. So Snazz comes to, we decide that the best thing to do is just rile up this person by
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Having Reynard pretend to be a new br- what? I mean, immigrant is not the right word, right? Cause they're not necessarily- A new arrival? Yeah, a new arrival. From Drowam. Talk a bunch of crap. Hope we start a fight. Mm-hmm. It works out perfectly. It does exactly what we needed it to do. Yeah. Yeah.
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Doesn't it, Snazz? Perfectly is exactly how I was worded. Nice punch in the back of the head. And then fight. And the fight was fun. Yeah. The fight was silly. You all set it up well.
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I think it was good that you had him get a little bit away or you let Raynard get a little bit away before the Ram attacked. So there was a couple of rounds where it was just them or just Eris, I guess was within range too. But like I couldn't do anything. Kath couldn't do anything. We had to think about stuff, putting the secondary
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uh character the watcher yeah the commander all that stuff was pretty great yeah milo did some stuff for a while it was a long combat encounter i was listening to it on the way up and that combat encounter goes for like two and a half episodes yeah yeah i mean it's
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you all are like the experience amount
Crossovers and Power Level Debate
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now it's like you're dealing with high soak high wound threshold enemies so just by virtue of that the combats are starting to take a little bit but it mostly doesn't get dull i mean there's there's some places where we're kind of like oh well but for the most part it was set up to where it doesn't it doesn't feel like a all right i hit them again
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Yeah. Or they hit them again, like, which is so easy to get to in a, in a long fight like that. Right. And thanks to Milo, we fundamentally changed, uh, one of the conditions in Genesis, uh, finally, uh, with the, uh, paralyzed condition on the curse spell. Is that with your web? Yeah.
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Uh, where it makes them staggered instead of immobilized, which just doesn't make any sense. But, um, and then Milo got, got. Yeah. What were you going to say? I got real bad. No, that's what I was saying. I said, Milo did stuff for a little while till he got obliterated. I'm probably wrong because one punch or whatever it was. This might be the first time where you went down that hob didn't also go down. But, uh,
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It was a fun fight. It was fun trying to figure out what to do. He kept trying to run, and we kept trying to stop him. Or do I waste... I think I had a crit that made me lose a maneuver. Or I could have... I had to do strain for any... I had no free maneuver, basically. And I was really running low on strain. A lot of crits. There were a lot of crits. A lot of crits. Ram got created four times.
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The commander? Raynard got credit pretty nasty. Raynard was taking it. I caught one. I caught one. Yeah, I think Eris is the only one who avoided one this time just because she was an overwatch. She had a nice... That was really fun. I have to say that was really fun getting to... Because Eris doesn't very often get to operate at long range because just the
Eberron Culture: Coffee and Beverages
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nature of our business. And so getting to operate at range and be methodical with Eris'
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weaponry was fun. Great. Um, but what we, what we, what, what we come to realize, well, what we, the players for sure, there's no, there's no doubt about that come to realize is that the, if these are the West wind writers and they are calling this person commander with the Ram wasn't the commander of the West wind writers, what is going on? Right. Um,
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I'm going to go and say Hab is not put that together. I'm not, I'm, I'm going back. I go around and around. Eris is smart. So it's not like unreasonable, the idea, but I'm not, but Eris also often stops at her first conclusion. So I'm, I'm not a hundred percent sure whether I, uh, whether I can say that Eris has reached that conclusion. That's my conclusion is that somehow.
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Well, I guess a question that would be worth asking is whether our characters know if the commander in an enemeth is dead. Enemeth. Enemeth. Yeah, is an F. Mayeth. If Commander Anemeth is dead or not, because that would be a necessary step for us to assume that her soul or their soul is in the ram.
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Right. So yeah, I don't know if Eris has come to that conclusion. That's Philip's conclusion is that it's not the Ram anymore. It's this commander, NMF, but I don't know if that's the case or not. I don't think Milo could come to any conclusion because he was out. And then he wasn't really in when he came back. He was a little groggy. Reno was close to out.
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Hoppe just has a reasoning block when it comes to the Ram at this point. After this fourth encounter and all of them have been just extra weird for one reason or another, he's just like, what, anything and whatever, sure. So he just thinks the Ram's back right now and somehow has ingratiated himself to these Westwood riders.
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I think we're already at the end of the arc. Yeah.
Family Dynamics and Concerns
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I mean, well, we did introduce a character and then no role play of Dr. Maris Pebblefist. Oh, right. The underground doctor. We have a mob doctor now. The lesser cousin clan of the Stone Knuckles. Right. He's got a lot going on because his uncle is currently under close scrutiny from
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House Orion for his part in stealing from their facility. Is it Marist or Marist? Marist is what I have. OK, cool. Because I think I'm pretty sure Marist is a sect of Catholic monk. That sounds right. Like connect. Like there's Jesuits and Marist. I think you're right. Oh, I don't know. And maybe their focus is medicine. Who knows?
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Let's pretend that it is. Who's going to fact check us? A bunch of monks? Nah. So yes, so we do have Mary's pebble fist. But the other revelation that was made at the end of this arc was Sigil doing some Come Clean, particularly with the Ghoulra and the... Help me out. I can't think of the term. Skima. Skima, thank you.
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And what he seems to be under the impression or the impression that they seem to be under is that if someone could. Incorrect me if I if I've got this incorrect.
00:18:48
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there's a chance that someone is working on a way to control warforged as long as they know what their schema looks or their guru looks like they can they could could could take them under a thrall essentially yeah remotely yeah and en masse even and that's sigil's theory as to what was happening with those warforged that you all initially fought was that they were under the control of that eldritch machine
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And that is a big deal. Yes, a huge deal because even when they were.
Gadgets, Spells, and Rules Clarification
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designed as, I don't want to make the statement that all warforged always were at the beginning killing machines, but when they were designed as weapons of war, they were still autonomous. Like they had to choose to follow the orders they were given. They had to choose to act. They had the freedom to execute how they needed to or wanted to, right? I mean, so yeah, this would be robots. This would be correct.
00:19:48
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Candid's would call it a firmware update, but that was gross. Yeah, it is. But that's absolutely. Sure, sure. Yeah. And, and there's actually, there was a question from one of the listeners about that. We didn't talk about it much in character or on the show. I don't know if that was cause we just needed to be winding down or.
00:20:13
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I had to manage to not hit us like, I think all of us were pretty, at least three of the four of us were really banged up. Like, Radard, Milo, and Hob were all kind of like, can we just go home? Or to a doctor, or to somewhere that I can feel better, so. I think that might have had something to do with it. But let us jump into, unless, again, if any of you have anything you'd like to add or say about this arc, anything that I've missed,
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I'm okay. Okay, great. Let's jump into some questions from our listeners. As always, if you have questions about the previous arc, you can ask them on our Discord. If you need access to the Discord, you can find it through our Facebook page, through our... There's a link on our Twitter as well, right? Twitter, Instagram, YouTube channel. And all of those things are...
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www.whatever.com slash the Geek Pantheon. Yeah. Roy. Right. So that's how you find us. Our first question is from Leopard for Eric. She wants to know what source you pulled the Westland Rider. Is it Westland or Westwind? Westwind. Okay. The Westwind Riders from? Sounds like a commander's
Speculations and Closing Remarks
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name from a source book, but she was wondering what's up. Well, the Westwind Riders are in Eberron Cannon. Not my portrayal of them, but them as an organization are canonically Eberron.
00:21:37
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Pretty much everything outside of the name and the fact that they're a subsect of the Brielish army is whole cloth, just me. You want to know a funny thing? What? In my portrayal of Beric, that is the military unit that I intended Uruk to have commanded.
00:21:53
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There you go. Obviously with a very different portrayal than what you've given. I also thought that's a nice name. Yeah. So yeah, I just kind of I honestly it was I need a name of a subtext of the British military that were militant radicals. And I found Western writers like that's a good name. And then the commander's name, I think
00:22:20
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I think I used a name generator. I know that's not the funnest answer, but I think that's what I did. Um, as I went to one of those websites, it has like a bunch of different cultural name generators and use one of those. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. When you, when you use the name generator, you get, I'm going to, when I use the name generator, I get snap.
00:22:42
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It is really like the computer knows us and what we think about. Dumb stuff. Okay, Farin wants to know, are the characters at levels or what would be the equivalent level in the 5e system for these characters? That's tricky. That's tough. The answer is no. Genesis has no levels.
00:23:03
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I would say based on the number of stuff we can do, we would definitely be level 10 or over. Yeah. Um, so we'd be, we'd be in the third tier of play, I would say in terms of the number of abilities we have and things like that.
00:23:19
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I think that's fair, but I also think that you can quantify it different ways. Two of my feats are just to get more wounds, just to live longer. That's true. I could have taken Animal Companion and Windwalker or something with those, and it would have seemed like I was at a much higher level at that point. Or you could play Trevor where you value the experience points more than the other ones. Trevor just likes having a big number on his character. He likes to curl up on his XP horn.
00:23:50
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and defend it from all villagers. I'm still doing okay where I'm at. I do need to upgrade after this last fight. I love how you treat it like a savings account, like I'm not going to spend it unless I need it.
00:24:08
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Like, so I agree that, like, based just on our abilities, like, yeah, we are high level. It's weird because in Genesis, like, our offensive capability is very high. Yes. But Genesis, as you were pointing out, your defensive capability doesn't increase much. Eris has the same number of wounds that she had at the beginning of the campaign, and she actually has less strain because she had to cybernetically fix herself.
00:24:35
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So my drain threshold has actually gone down since the start of the campaign. And from a design standpoint, the intent behind that is to not hit the level 12 adventurers fighting the Kobolds where it's just your gods. You side swipe them away. Like anything is a threat in Genesis is kind of the hope anyway.
00:24:56
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I think there's the spell availability leveling thing that might make us seem like a higher level in some, like the things that Milo can do would be like level six spells in D&D, which would make necessity him being what, level 10, nine.
00:25:15
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Yeah, something like that. Yeah. But outside of those spells, if you look at what Milo can do, it's more like level six or seven. Maybe, maybe with AC and hit points and things. So it's it's. Yeah, it is tricky to think of in that in that way, but. We are certainly we would have been playing for a while in D&D to get to this point. That is for sure. We have been playing for a while. Yes, yes.
00:25:43
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Right, Ophelia wants to know what opportunities for crossover and plot elements are there from campaign one. Are there any campaign one NPCs or elements that each of you would love to see? So let's let Eric answer the overall then. Unless we do some kind of multiversal weird thing, then no, like the timelines are separate in totality from
00:26:05
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campaign one. This is a different Eberron. So, yeah, unless I decided to get wonky with the planes and something like that, then there isn't really any outside of seeing
00:26:18
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seeing a, like you all spotted Orgev outside the lightning rail. Technically, I guess that would be a crossover, except it's a different Orgev. Yeah, canon characters doesn't feel like a crossover. So, and it would just feel, we started campaign two with the intention that we didn't want people to have to have listened to campaign one to hop into this, and so. Thank goodness, right, Trevor? I listened to campaign one. I wasn't on it.
00:26:45
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And so keeping things as easy as possible for those listeners is kind of my hope, so yeah. As far as anything that we would like to see come out of or from campaign one, if they did take place in the same timeline, just years in the future or whatever, I would have expected Eric to have thrown in a little Easter egg somewhere about Cassie and Oriana being okay or not. Sure.
00:27:17
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Sorry, you added or not into that sentence. We would have absolutely expected Eric to throw an Easter Eggman about how they are in fact okay. I would have wanted, expected is different. That's fair. And let's not pretend that they're not out there chasing danger.
00:27:30
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Well, yeah. But as far as elements, I don't know. I expected more after after the Eberron that I was sold in campaign one, I expected more flying boats. We do have one. I know. We have a little one. Yeah. We have an actual flying boat that we call a car instead of a flying ship that we call a boat.
00:27:56
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Anyway, that's about it. I would I would very much enjoy appearances by Thor and Stone Knuckle. Like, yeah, Thor and is just such a delight in his very reasonable reactions to the madness going on around him. Yeah, I got that. Yeah, I say bring back the angels. Oh, my gosh. Gabe. He's still out there looking for decks.
00:28:26
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I don't really have any, I'm kind of on the Thorin bandwagon. Yeah. Well, tough. I mean, the, the only back when it was uncertain, it was up in the air, whether or not we were going to continue the timeline or start fresh. Um, the only cameo that I had in my head that would have been cool is if we did a decade or so time jump in the future.
00:28:49
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I was going to have grown up Cassie and pop in as like a super cool adventurer using a ribbon weave, like very self-possessed son of a storm lord kind of thing. But that was the only scene that I played out in my head that would have been a fun thing to drop in. So, yeah. Pretty cool.
00:29:13
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Yeah, I mean, there are 10,000 things that we don't remember from campaign one that I'm sure all of us could have said just now. But sometimes I think about the breadth of campaign one like, oh, yeah, we did all of that. Yeah. Like somebody mentioned something like the the dragon horde underground. Yeah. Friend ending thing. Like, oh, yeah, that did happen. And that whole arc was a thing that happened that I'd forgotten about. Yeah.
00:29:37
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Okay. Moving on. Farron asks, does Eberron have coffee or is there an equivalent? If so, where would it grow? Considering that in real life, it grows mainly between the tropics. So, um, I know in, in Can and Keith Baker talks about Tal, which is halfling tea that is a caffeinated hot beverage that people frequently, uh, drink. I don't know if Eberron specifically has like
00:30:01
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coffee beans that are roasted ground up and then prepared in a variety of ways. I can't think of it being occurring in a source book. Yeah, I'm sure there's no reason for it. I mean, I can tell you our everyone does because we've mentioned drinking coffee before on this show. It has only occurred to me because of this question, but Eris has got to be a coffee fiend. Yeah. Right. Eris has got to always be very high because they don't have fantasy Red Bull. You know, Galanda has energy drinks out there that are just like
00:30:31
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He just has smack. That's probably very true.
00:30:37
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But yeah, Zendric would be where it would grow. I imagine that's a very tropical... Broiland is tropical. Broiland has rainforest. Yeah, Broiland has rainforest. Dargoon has rainforest. So, lots of places. That was the one that I said in the Discord. I was like, I actually know the answer to this. I read some things. That tile was the big part of it. But yeah, I remember it says that there's a tropical rainforest in the east of Dargoon. Well, that's probably where Eris got into coffee. There he goes. That carries over into...
00:31:03
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And I'm sure there are lots of insufferable people that will talk to you at no length about the distinct differences between Dargoon, Brielish, and Zendric coffee. Right. Well, Zendric, they pass it through a gibbering mouth and then harvest it and then collect what's left. Zendric coffee is made by drow and is mildly poisonous. But boy, is it worth it. If you survive, you will- That extra kick. You will not sleep that day. Following onto that,
00:31:33
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Paris definitely drinks some sort of absurdly strong, dark-roon version of coffee. Like it's thick? Yeah. It's like the Turkish-style coffee where you leave the grounds and you just pour the water on the grounds and drink it. That's absolutely what it is. That is absolutely what it is. I can't handle that. Greek-style, Turkish-style Mediterranean coffee. I'm glad that it's there for them, but it is not for me. Becca wants to know whatever his favorite beverage is.
00:32:02
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Oh, because it's from Becca, we know it's, it's us and not characters. Hmm. I mean, mine's coffee. Like I like coffee. Yep. Coffee here. No question.
00:32:16
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I mean, I guess it's so favorite. Well, like, well, but like there are lots of things where if they are available and it's appropriate for me to drink them, I will absolutely pick them over Dr. Pepper. Fair enough. But would you want to drink them all day? So yeah, I guess that's my dream versus what's your favorite drink. There are some things that I would not want to have every day that I absolutely. Dr. Pepper is certainly my go to drink, but.
00:32:43
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really, really like me. Yeah. Oh, I know. Yes, like I love a good like hazy IPA or like juicy IPA. But obviously, dishwater. Obviously, I'm not snagging one of those at three o'clock on a Tuesday. Right. Belgian ale. But give me the coffee, I guess. I mean, for alcohol, Belgian style is mezcal margarita.
00:33:12
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I'm not getting Mezcal so good. I ordered one at Casadores the other day and the server goes, are you sure? And I was like, yeah. And he was like, have you had it before? And I was like, yes. He was concerned for your weight to alcohol ratio. He was like, everyone that gets it sends it back because they say it's gross. And I was like, yeah, I know what it tastes like. Bring it to me.
00:33:32
Speaker
What is this? Mezcal. It's just like it's got a really smoky flavor. Yeah. I'm an alcoholic. I usually go with unsweet tea, which apparently is another appalling option. In this part of the country. Well, that's what I was going to say. That's my actual go-to is like take a sweet tea and take that amount of sweetness down about 96% where it's just like, oh, this tea is heard of sugar. Yeah. That's what I want. I like unsweet tea. That's good stuff.
00:34:02
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I mean, since it kind of became alcoholic versus non-alcoholic, a really well-made mule is, I think, my top tier alcoholic beverage that I will order most places and then be disappointed because a few places make a really well-made mule. But anyway, they need to refrigerate the little mugs because it just gets watery if they don't.
00:34:23
Speaker
Anyway, Crow wants to know, what are the relationships like between Kath and Sana's parents? What's the dynamic like? Let's take that one first and then we'll do the second one. So Kath and Sana, Kath's parents are in a loving committed relationship and Sana's parents are in a loving committed relationship.
00:34:41
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Um, but there's a Venn diagram overlap. Yeah. Yes. Yes. It's a V shape, uh, not a triangle. Um, why are we being so cryptic? They, they, they're at the same moment, different dads, but they all are in a, in a working relationship together, but they're not, but I was trying to make the decision that the dads are not in a relationship together. The dads have no romantic tie to each other. They are very good friends and enjoy spending time together. But yeah, there is no romantic, uh, link between the dads. So that is, that is the living situation and everybody's happy with it. So.
00:35:10
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Yeah. I mean, and we have met them. I don't know. Yeah. There's been a, uh, it was, yeah. Um, uh, well, the first time we meet them is when you really kind of unity dinner, right? Yeah. The unity dinner downtime episode is where we first learned about the relationship and really see them interact with each other. Everybody was so focused on Cath for his funeral that it's a different whole number ball game of that dynamic. But, um,
00:35:35
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Yeah, and then another question from Crow. How concerned are you slash your characters about what Sigil revealed at the end of the arc? I'm deeply concerned because that's exactly the sort of thing Eric would do to us. So I as a person, as a player, I'm deeply concerned about how Eric's going to turn Sigil against us with a remote control. Outside of that, I haven't put it together yet.
00:35:59
Speaker
Not too worried if a soak is so bad. Did we learn? Oh, my goodness. Well said. Did we find out? We still don't really know who was trying to do it, right? Right. No, you just know it was in a can of facility. We're not 100 percent sure that someone's trying to do it. Sure. This is this is the sigil hypothesis they've come up with. But what one could do with this technology? There you go.
00:36:29
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Yeah. Um, what Sigil might do if they had that technology. And wasn't there a time when one of the
00:36:41
Speaker
Whatever those episodes are, whatever we call those episodes, where, yeah, where Sigil had to go in and there was a tweak. There was a, that was a flashback. That was a flashback. The reason Sigil wasn't in the morning was because they were sent to Sean for, yeah, tweaking. So, yeah. Okay. Eris is conflicted because she actually has a fairly,
00:37:08
Speaker
This hasn't really been something that Eris has got, that there's been a reason for Eris to express, other than by being awkward whenever it comes up, because it usually comes up very negatively. Eris has a pretty high view of Canis, as a Chiron, what she sees is a Chiron institution that
00:37:25
Speaker
that survived and handled itself well and dug its way out of the mess of the morning, as opposed to the Cairo and royal family, which are all just failures in Eris' mind. Eris is a very fair-minded person. Yeah, rationally and fairly. If you haven't gotten that impression yet, Eris really thinks through stuff and comes to carefully reasoned conclusions. So Eris, obviously, it would be very bad for that to be done.
00:37:54
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But Eris is like, well, OK, I mean, you know, by the same token, we could weaponize elementals instead of using them to power ships. But, you know, we haven't done that. Yeah. Except, of course, that Eris literally has. But she doesn't think of it that way. Anybody else?
00:38:20
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Alright, Crowe's final question. For the players, what's your favorite season? Ball. Ball.
00:38:29
Speaker
Is that, is that what the answer means? I genuinely think that's what, yeah, I don't know. Seasoning. I thought, no, I thought of, I read it as like season one and season two of Everon renewed. Oh. Which is because it wasn't, there's something about NPCs after that or something like that. For players, for players slash Eric and for characters slash NPCs. I see. Okay. So maybe I'm wrong then.
00:38:51
Speaker
Which version of my DMing style did you like more season one? I was actually like, I enjoy the cohesion of this character group more than I think this character group is logical and makes sense well as a unit. That is true. More than campaign one. There's zero reason Dex and Beric should have been friends. And then other than the world being in danger, they'd have gone their separate ways. So anyway, but that's apparently not the question. Spring.
00:39:22
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Spring. Yeah, I'm going to go spring. I've started to like gardening. There it is. Fall, yeah. A couple of falls, a couple of springs. None of us like summer because we live in a part of the world where summer is just very unpleasant. Equinox people, not solstice people. And winter is all the nastiness and none of the pretty. Winter should be our favorite because it's fall and spring all rolled into water. It just oscillates week to week. Plus winter. This is you never know which.
00:39:54
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Anyway, uh, as far as characters, I have no idea that Sharn didn't really have the seasons where Hob lives. It's pretty much just, we're too low to get, we're too low down to get the seasons. Yeah. He remembers spring from when he was enjoying calls it being nice. All the baby Raptors running around.
00:40:17
Speaker
No, that's talented. I drove, you know, it never, who cares? That could be raptor centric bureau. I'll allow it. Is there a particular season in Eberron that is full of like festivals and lots of things going on year round? Yeah, they have holidays year round. Um, so not anymore. Party in Charn. I was going to say miles would be whatever that would be. Yeah. Especially owning a bar. That would mean more business coming in. Yep. Yep.
00:40:48
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Alright, Crow has another question. These were not all asked consecutively, they just asked questions. Anyway, Aris, what gadget is next barring anything needed for the missions? Do you have a just, I want to make something cool gadget for Aris, Philip? Usually, yeah. I've usually got a few different sort of things where I'm trying to work out how would I do it within the rules, usually.
00:41:14
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Eris, I mean, Eris's weapon, Fletcher is powered by an air elemental. Tasha is an air elemental. So Eris thinks it's pretty logical that she should be able to install a Fletcher on Tasha's bird body and let Tasha shoot things. But I worked out how that would work within the rules yet. Eris has been.
00:41:41
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Eris has some upgrade ideas for the gauntlet to give it some offensive capabilities and
00:41:53
Speaker
Usually she's got some kind of idea for some improvement to the to the ship and then she's also Started to be decent at alchemy. So she's playing around with chemistry sets also But most of that has to do with long-term plans regarding Vigo All right So
00:42:20
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Laura wants to know why is Hob only supposed to cast spells during combat? That's actually written in the feet or in the talent. It says during it. It might say encounter, but I've always read that as combat unless, but Eric typically lets me if there's a good reason.
00:42:39
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Or if it's prepping for combat, like to cast barrier on somebody right before a fight might start. Eric's been pretty benevolent in that. Because there's actually a second tier of that talent that would be a zero-sum thing for me to take. And so I've never moved past that level to see what's next. So as of right now, I'm constrained to combat for my spell casting.
00:43:00
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Okay, so Jeff, that's not me. We have a Jeff in the Discord. Has a question. Are you guys ready for Crunch Corner? Yeah. Here we go. I think, are you looking it up? Is that why you got the book out? Nice.
00:43:14
Speaker
Jeff wants to know, just a general rules question as I'm going to be jamming a campaign with magic in Genesis soon. According to rules as written, a spell that can benefit from concentration lasts until the end of the character's next turn. So I thought that meant that if the player didn't use a maneuver to concentrate, the spell still lasted until the end of the next turn.
00:43:35
Speaker
In episode 83 though, as soon as Milo elected to do something else, the invisibility dropped right away on his current turn. Is this something you changed to mesh up more closely to the D&D feel? Do I have it wrong? And by I, I don't mean me. I mean Jeff. And by Jeff, I don't mean me. I mean that guy.
00:43:55
Speaker
And I did not do that on purpose. I just happened to, sadly, organically. OK, so we just off mic, I cut it, but I pulled up the book. We read Rules as Written and kind of had a little discussion around the table to make sure that we were understanding it. And yes, so to answer your question, it got overlooked, I guess, that invisibility dropped as soon as the spell got cast. Rules as Written the way it should have worked is when Milo cast
00:44:23
Speaker
Another spell that requires concentrate and chooses to use a maneuver to concentrate on that new spell or chooses to not use concentrate on the invisibility spell the invisibility should have lasted until the end of his turn so hypothetically Philip to your point.
00:44:39
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Because you don't have to concentrate on that initial casting, you could have a round of overlap where you use the maneuver on invisibility, cast the new spell, that would last until the end of the next turn, and that's the point where you have to make the decision on which one. Which one are you concentrating? Okay. So, yes, if you choose to continue to concentrate, I think from a technical rule standpoint, because of our understanding, Randy didn't choose to concentrate on invisibility, maybe because we didn't know, but anyway.
00:45:06
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So the spell lasts until the end of the turn, not as soon as a new spell is cast. So yeah, there was an intentional choice to make it closer to D&D just because I try not to do that too much because we're playing Genesis and I want it to be Genesis. It's just making it feel like Eberron is the difficulty. So yeah, but thank you for the question.
00:45:34
Speaker
All right. And our last question is from Laura. Round the table. Well, actually that's not true because Eric knows the answer. I'll give my thoughts. What does everyone think is going on with the Ram? I think we've.
00:45:51
Speaker
Pretty well answered that from a character perspective. As far as a player perspective, yeah, like I'm convinced that this commander has been reincarnated into the Ram, and that's a bad thing. Yeah, that's my interpretation too. And they're probably less than pleased that this was the body they chose, considering the enemies that it seems to have. Maybe they didn't have a choice.
00:46:18
Speaker
We'll find out. I mean, they probably didn't have a choice. Rainard dragged them out of the afterlife and stuffed them into the rain by being bad at magic. Not purposely. I said by being bad. That was insinuated.
00:46:35
Speaker
At least it was him and not Milo this time. Seems to recall not wanting to do that, but being asked to anyway. That is also fair. That is fair point. Well anyway, this has been Eberron Reviewed. We're going to stop recording this and immediately jump into our next arc.
00:46:56
Speaker
We're very excited to play around the table. Thank you all so much for listening. I've already mentioned all the socials and everything earlier, so rewind, I guess. And we will catch you next week. In the meantime, I've been Jeff. I have been Philip. I'm Trevor. I'm Randy. And I'm Eric. Great night.