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S1 EP 4 | The £100k Bungalow Renovation - End of week 2
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The kitchen and bathroom rip out begins, Nick has some tips about structural calculations to save you money and we answer some of your questions!
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Introduction to DIY Guys Podcast
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Welcome to the DIY ah Guys, the podcast where home renovations, power tools and mild panic go hand in hand. I'm Nick Morris. And I'm Dan Doher. And each week we'll be chatting with some property pros, some DIY diehards, and hopefully be able to help you with some tips and tricks along the way. Welcome back to the DIY Guys podcast.
Recap of Last Week's Episode with Popular Guest
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It's episode number four. And as always, I'm joined with...
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My co-host, Nick Morris. How are you doing, mate? Very well, thank you. How are you? Yeah, not too bad, thanks. I wasn't sure if you were going invite me back with how much you loved doing a podcast with Jay last week. was worried I'd get replaced. That guy was a legend to be there. He was the most chilled man on earth. He is the most chilled guy on earth. Yeah, he so He was looking at YouTube as well after we spoke with him. He's just got such a big following. done that many videos, like 60 videos on a quarter of a million videos.
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It's just because that house is so cool, right? It's so cool. Yeah. And we had lots of people reach out and discuss it. It's great to hear from you all. And thanks so much for the like getting involved. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Thanks for everyone watching and subscribing so far. We've definitely had more than we were expecting. yeah I was amazed that we're starting to get comments and emails from people as well, which I've got to do a little bit of email at the end of this episode, but we've had some emails from people as well. Let's see if we can answer any or Really embarrassing if you can't answer any.
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I wish I was prepared for this now. It might make him me nervous. I know, I'll give it a secret, but I picked one that I think we can handle. Okay, sounds good. Anything technical, we might have to bring in some opportunities. Might have to Google it first before we can. Exactly.
Nick's Week Two Renovation Updates
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So how's the house going? in It's good, it's going well. So I've been there for three days this week, and so I'm at the end of week two. So at the end of week one last week, I've just been stripping wallpaper,
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and move from the bedrooms and the living room. So I get rid of all the woodwork, things like that. parentin And this week's the kitchen and the bathroom, which is always like big ones. yeah I love ripping out kitchens personally. It's so fun. It was a really well-made kitchen. So i started there.
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So some kitchens, if they like cheaper ones from like IKEA or something, we can literally just get a hammer and a bolster and start smashing. yeah just falls apart really, really easy. But this was actually a really well made, I swear we said this before, yeah everything think in the old days seems to just be better. It seems like why?
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think we're getting worse as we've got more technology and better materials. And right I'm ripping out these wardrobes that really well made. kitchen is really well made. I'm just like, why? Why are we going this It's worse and more expensive. It's so ridiculous. So that anyway, so it's really thick, really well made. So instead of smashing it apart, had to do it properly and take out all the screws and take out sections at a time. Loads of random things I didn't even know was there. I've got like a weird, vague memory of being young, but she had like a fold-up ironing ball, which I've never seen her look.
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So it's like the top drawer pulls out. yeah Or was it the top drawer or the bottom drawer? It was bit of bug, so it was a fake dummy drawer at the top, and it opens up, and an ironing ball pops out out of it. Wow. It was really strong. I was like, that's genius, to It's impressive, yeah. Especially she didn't have loads of space for that sort thing. That's a really clever thing. But it was also on those things, because it needed to be strong, they had like a thousand screws of bolts. It took me so long. It was only in the cupboard that big, because I couldn't even get my drill in it. Oh, you want to that? literally did have to try and, like,
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hammer and bolster it out and and make up for that.
Using Electrical Skills in Renovations
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But um anyway, that was a really funny thing that I sort forgot she had. Yeah. But it started going really well. So because of my electrical background, was really handy.
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Yeah. Loads of sockets in cupboards. um There's gas ignition in a cupboard and an extractor fan socket in a cupboard. It was really handy of my background, just being able to know which circuits to isolate, turn it off, rip it out.
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um If anyone doesn't know what a Wago is, you can put Wagos on these cables now so you can turn it back on and it will be safe to like go near or touch or whatever. It's basically a connector block in a modern way where you don't need a screwdriver.
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that's really handy um so i ripped out all the electrics and ripped out all the cupboards and i basically just left um a sink unit just for obvious reasons because don't want to lose the sink at this point it's just so handy yeah so way it's always helpful to keep your sink isn't it even if you're just using it to wash your hands like you might be around there you want to have a bit of lunch you've got to wash your hands for that right and in the old days i think we've said previous episode i was a bit like gung-ho like rip out the elections, rip
Keeping Essentials Operational During Renovations
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out everything. And then you are like, well, this job's going to be a year long or whatever. yeah Let's just keep it sync until like day dot um until we can. yeah And then rip out and then we'll make like, and like we'll have to just do out of stock clock or whatever in the corner. yeah Same with the toilet. I really like the toilet just to be fed.
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and not have to do it with a bucket. I mean, I know it's easier as guys, but love my mum comes around and uses it. She doesn't want to be using in bucket. No. Even though it's fairly effective, it's just a bit gross, isn't there and another hassle of filling it up. So I always try and leave the sink and the toilet just go in. As long as possible. As long as possible. yeah Yeah. So the tricky bit in the kitchen, as always, was the gas.
Quick Deliveries and Kitchen Layouts Debate
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yeah i love like modern induction hops i won't be putting gas back yeah also i can wire it obviously for costs they're much cheaper for me to run but so this had gas hob of like four burners and i looked in the cupboard luckily it had an old-fashioned gas stock cock yeah so i'd say to anyone at home please don't mess with gas um this was super super easy so i turned all the four burners on and literally then turned the stock off on the gas and all the four burners obviously died yeah so you could see the gas wasn't coming out however ah worked with my plumber previously where they can just be like small traces of gas even in like a pipe that's being capped off and everything and it could just happen so i'd always get someone specialist to come in and have a look
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um if i were you guys but i used a service called screw fix sprint don't know you guys have heard about it's basically deliveroo or diy really cool no wow um i needed a stop clock because just totally forgot to and consider that and didn't know which size it would be i disconnected the gas and then you need like a stop end to obviously stop the gas coming out or if the valve was actually accidentally turned back on the gas would just spew out um and screw fix it's all stationed like everywhere bob for my grand is probably 15 minutes i was like 50 minutes there 15 minutes back maybe waiting a little bit well there's always a queue i always find there's always a queue i know and always pre-order everything you still just have to wait don't you yeah it's just a different queue i was like 45 minutes for something that costs like two pound yeah i'm just going use screw fix print so ah paid five pound delivery and two pounds for the stop end world's easiest delivery for that literally it's like
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a two pound coins or less than that. probably like a 10pp size. I mean, it came in within an hour. I think it's a no brain. I do it with cable and stuff now as well.
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ah The old days you're like, oh, have cable and I need to do that. You're just like, oh, this guy i can come ah for a fiver within the hour. And like, what's your time worth? think If you think I'm saving 200 pound a day by doing this myself, so I'm at 20 pound a day. yeah You lose an hour, you've lost 20 pound in my head. But also you can be doing other stuff, right? While you wait for stuff to get delivered and you know it's probably best to order like a large amount of stuff, right? But I know what it's like, you go to start a job and you're like,
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I just need this one piece and I don't want to waste two hours. I can just order it, carry on getting going and then i know it will turn up soon. Yeah. So we've promoted Screw Fix Sprint for free. It's not an
Renovation Surprises: Hidden Features and Utility
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advertisement because we don't have the listenership yet. So we're only one to be remotely interested. screw fix doing sponsors really are yeah no really recommend that service and anyway so i'll put the stock end on obviously then i'll just this is very notion this is an old school method but i just take the valve so it can't be turned just because even accidentally if he was like getting something out and you just banged it it might accidentally turn on yeah and as i say i've now got my plumber coming in to disconnect it properly from the maintenance down the line but he said there's no leaks or anything like that oh great i had all the windows and doors open panicking because it obviously scares the hell out me sure scares head out everyone oh yeah and at least you're not a smoker either yeah exactly that well all my old boys who work for me they're in like their 60s they all do smoke as well yeah you have to be careful with that um so that's the only tricky part of the whole kitchen it just took a longer time than it would usually take a river kitchen just because it was just a high quality kitchen yeah i'd like clips and pelments and everything was fixed properly um there was just no shortcuts taken and the parents went right up to the ceiling
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So just didn't have enough maneuverability to get it out. And it's those things, once you start on one bit, it does start to come slowly. I've got time-lapse footage I'm going to put on our Instagram, DIY Guys podcast on Instagram. I'll put on there of just me doing little bits and bobs to see because it's quite hard you're just listening to this. It'd be hopefully helpful to visualize it on our Instagram as well. It's quite nice to watch as well. I find quite therapeutic, stuff coming out all nicely. Yeah. I discovered a window, hidden window, just behind the fridge.
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So my nan and my gran had freezer at the bottom, like a single one, and a stacked on top of it, fridge on top of that. thought it was one thing, but it was only when started ripping it out, realized it wasn't. And it was just a random little skinny window, like, yeah, did find it.
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But I don't... know if I can utilize it or not or whether it's bricking up because it's sort of, I don't think I'll utilize it. It takes up too much space and that wall's staying yeah um and I'm going to open up, there's a window in the kitchen already, I'm going to open it to make like a bigger opening so I can look out to the garden and it'll like a nice thing and then that window is right next to that window. think it's, you're then like, oh, what if you want wall units or yeah something there?
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So I'm probably not going to use it, it's just one of those random things. right why um It wouldn't have been my gran's decision because the kitchen went in before she moved in, but why did they decide to lose it? and Well, weirdly, we had the same thing in our house. Oh, really? Yeah, the fridge was in front of this thing. we took the fridge out and then there was some ply on, ripped it off. It was literally a tiny window. It was like, not big enough to let enough light in. yeah So I guess it takes up space in the kitchen. which Yeah, it was quite a natural position, I guess, for the fridge and the freezers. And in that sense it sort of makes sense a bit. But think I could have put it in some. oh Yeah, I think, as you say, there's only a skinny window. yeah What's it going to really add?
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No. So yeah, that went a well. I've left the floor really down in there because I know it's um concrete underneath.
Challenges and Tips in Bathroom Renovation
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And yeah um I kind of think it's like a cheap liner on there, I think. And I've removed the radiator from that room as well because it's really easy because wall was coming out yeah i literally just um bled it um took it off and then what i do with the radios as soon as i take it off i flip it upside down so all the water stays in there okay take it out the front um so i've done that so i can take the walls down in a couple of weeks which is going to be my big one i'm sort like the elephant in the room job that i'm putting off but know needs to be done yeah it's going to be really like physical
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Basically the kitchen, all walls, only one wall is staying. wow So three of them are going, one's to make the kitchen bigger, one's to open up to live room to have a kitchen diner, which I'm not sure whether people, some people say yeah, some people say no, don't they? Yeah, true.
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It depends who we're targeting, I guess, because we're selling. yeah sort of feel like an older person might like it as it is closed in, a younger person might want it opened up. um but it's one of those things i think is better to open it up and then if you really wanted to put it back it's a stud ball like not much money no i'm not doing that and so i think it's nicer a like to be able to cook and then just take stuff over rather having to leave a room and go into another room i think so actually this is a like kitchen dino we're in my house now and
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even just doing stuff that you don't really want to do like washing up or whatever actually think it's easier when you've got friends over because you can still like chat yeah can still like clear away but still chat be a bit more social so oh i like it but think that other generation older generation might not like it as much yeah it's a real probably a think not i like i'd be interested to see who buys it yeah I've got family in the back of my mind, but a downsizer is also, I think, a real target market. Yeah. In like, same detached bungalow, quiet in the suburb, right near school, so maybe grandchildren or something, potentially, near a parade of shops.
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It's got a lot of like ticks for an old downsizer as well. Yeah, it definitely does, yeah. and the Planning wise, you're all good on that side of things. Yeah. So actually I'll do bathroom first and I'll get oh yeah my train of thought. And then I did the bathroom and that was really mostly easy because it went in four or five years ago when Graham was on 94, 95, the council paid for it. I can't, we applied for, it i can't think how you even get this. no I think it must be you don't have a certain amount of money and you need, she couldn't step into a bath anymore. Okay. She basically turned it into a wet room with a walk-in shower, low sink, like accessible toilet and all that the accessibility, like handles and things like that to support you getting up, getting down, stuff like that.
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But because it was put in four or five years ago, there was like stock valves with like, you know, the easy screwdriver bit off on everything. And the shower was electric and literally just ran from the fusible up into the loft, popped down into this modern shower unit. So again, ah could disconnect that free and easily.
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and And everything just came like the sink, the shower, the shower cubicle bit, if you want to call it that. There was no glass or just a curtain. Yeah. All came off within like 20 minutes, half an hour. nice and then it was just things like tiles which i was like this is going to be really easy because i think they'll be cheap yeah so they'll come really easily and you guessed it and they did of course they're cheap they broke into each tile probably broke into like minimum six pieces oh just so sometimes ah those pieces just come off nicely yeah you can say it's almost just like
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going straight in the bucket sort of thing. yeah But they just literally broke into thousands of pieces. But a good tip for people is, um you know I'm sure a lot of people know this we know there's like yellow plastering buckets yeah or even any bucket, but think they're particularly good because they're like made of like silicone, they aren't quite sure.
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I had three of those on the floor and I was just taking tiles starting from the top down and then most of the crap was just falling in directly into those. So you don't actually have to lug it all about and sweep up as much. But it's still at the same time because there's so many bits got everywhere and you are just left with that like massive stuff. Because we're working by yourself, it's so rubbish. yeah I just want to make the mess and walk away. And then my brain just can't let me as well. I just like to come and do this a different day. But my brain's like, well, you just have to do it first thing next day. Yeah, awful. So yeah, pretty much went well anyway. so the toilet is staying for obvious reasons, like I said, for the sink. And everything else came out. And then the other just massive head or two massive headaches.
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So for a room, thought it was going to be easy. tiles are annoying. yeah There's a fake wall with a bit of 3d2 on it that they they've obviously built out, I think, to put the waste from the sink in. If you can't see it, yeah they would have just run its surface to be fair. not like pouncing on the council, but when i used to work for the council like 10 years ago or so, they didn't care about things like looking too nice. Like there's a little waste pipe going through the shower, wonder if would bother them that much.
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taking the waste through this bit of plier into this fake little 3p2 wall that's been plied yeah i mean taking the waste out there i assume okay and i'll just tried to get the fly off and it was awful it's like a million screws it's been tiled on top couldn't find all the screws yeah it took about hundred screws out and it didn't even like shake it in. So I guess my strategy is got to get a multi-tool and work little sections at a time. It was one of those jobs, you know, you just didn't account for. didn't know stud rule. I wasn't there when it got put in.
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Grandmother mentioned it. And I was like, So I've now got to spend some time ripping that out and couldn't face it haven't even done that yet.
Cost-effective Structural Calculations
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you've left it. I've started to accumulate like little jobs I've left. I need to do a day of the jobs I've left. Finishing off. Yeah.
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And then the third headache was the, they've like put some cheap like latex-y style the floor down. Yeah. um What's the word you use for It's not late sexy.
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You put in like kitchens and bathrooms, but they just glued it down. The only way getting out is without tools and just ripping it up. Some big sections came up. I think we've got about 80% of it and the rest of it's so glued down. I'm on the air for a bath and I just don't know what to do. There must be something, don't know, maybe a chemical or like a scraper or something to get out. Or like a heat gun to melt with glue. Yeah. I just need to evaluate if I need to ever get it up because that bathroom weirdly is not going to become a room. That's getting basically, it's going to be walkway through to the new extension. Okay. the right hand side of it will be in the kitchen.
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but we might have to do something with floating the floors anyway because we've got concrete and we've got asbestos tiles everywhere yeah but i can't remember what i said in the last one whether i even got into that but we've got asbestos floor tiles everywhere which we need to deal with in some way probably floating a screen above it just because some of them are loose around the edge where the carpet guys have put their gripper rods into them yeah cracked the asbestos obviously yeah um it's more a danger when they installed it than now yeah but you've just got broken tiles everywhere which is kind of loosing in others so i need to think of
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ah solution down the line of just yeah getting into screen and where that finished floor level will be in the bathroom but imagine i'm going to have to get it up in some if anyone knows a tip to get this horrible lino i think it's yeah that's like line horrible lino up that's been glued down and literally is like solid as a rock um maybe it's a knife scoring yeah little sections but Yeah, that'd be a good tip. Yeah, it would be. Yeah. it's so We're supposed to be giving a them advice. We're asking for nothing. We know nothing. This is fabulous really early on. yeah So yeah, sorry. So then go back to structural. Yeah, yeah. I've actually got some advice from people. And I think this is really good.
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So i looked into the structural engineer stuff. So we've got planning permission, then you have to do structural calculations for knocking down the garage, building an extension, and just make sure obviously it's never gonna fall down, hopefully, especially if you're doing a podcast on it. um And so a structure in engineer usually, I think for something like that would be anywhere, or AIS is between 900 and 1500 pounds.
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I found some old structure engineer calculations from like four years ago where i was quoted 1250 plus bat. i think you said. think mine was about a thousand. So that probably gives you a rough idea. that was only a single story. Exactly. So this is for the single story. Then also knocking down a few internal walls as well.
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Like I said, those kitchen walls and then opening up to new extension. um And i was like, I got in touch with my structure engineer and he basically didn't get it back to me. And I think he mentioned previously he's retiring.
00:19:37
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and was like oh god what should I do and then my carpenter while ago recommended using an online company okay so I searched online and found again not an advertisement as we haven't got enough listeners um I found a couple of companies but the one I went with is called calc online like calc for calculations so calc dash online and they were doing a 20 off as well so it was 500 pounds So i put in my old plans, put in my new plans, put what i wanted to do.
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And it said, if you pay 500 pound down to 408 after the discount and some other thing I got, um they'll get back to me in 10 days. But if you want it quicker, it was like 50 quid or something within a few days.
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I had no rush. So I was like, 408, this is worth just chancing. Literally goes out to loads of structure engineer freelancers or companies that just have that as a sideline, I guess.
00:20:29
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And was just so impressed with what it came back with because I compared what they sent me, like the pack, and what I've got from my structural engineer previously. it was actually in more detail about stuff. Some of it was obviously just copy and paste and send to every job, you know, what you should be doing to like pop up the seedings and PPE and stuff like fillers. But the actual calculations were just like bang on.
00:20:52
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and looked really like reasonable but then i showed my builder and he said oh absolutely perfect exactly what he was thinking because they basically said we don't need any stills which is an absolute money-wise because my builder has given me a quote for including stills in like a rough guide yeah in like the 40-odd ground i said yeah and so that save me a few thousand and then my builder said everything else just looks really reasonable just like upgrading the size of the timbers rather than putting in steels think over the top It's just a it like a single store extension with no pitched roof sitting on it at all. yeah and There's no load whatsoever. Now you have to account for like snow being on the roof and stuff. yeah There's really just no load whatsoever on it. so
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I really recommend it really impressed with what came back. and The £408 even covers one more change if i if my builder suggests something that doesn't look right or yeah decide to take out another wall. That will literally be included as well. so i think i'm an up at least 600 pounds on that yeah that's brilliant i think we need to put into this spreadsheet maybe this is doable like savings thing for you guys as well so hopefully we're over the weeks we come up with little things like this where we can save you a few grid or make you a few people things out of scrap yeah and ideas like that and we can put like plot like not so it's not just red red red expenses it'd be like oh actually made
00:22:15
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500 quid from my boiler here or scrapping this and i think this is a good idea to mention because that's some 600 pounds is huge saving yeah it's massive isn't it yeah and we'll put a link out uh we'll probably do a post and put link out for this company so you guys want to use them then can jump and use them obviously it's not an ad but yeah they want to give us money we'll take it or let you start a lot of quid. Start low, you're going to take anything you want. But yeah, and also maybe we put things like that. And we've got on Instagram, guys, podcasting Instagram, we've got a link tree thing.
00:22:46
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Yeah, we can put some links on there to like maybe this spreadsheet and then maybe these other things we've used that I promise we're making zero from. But I think it's a really good tip. um always get a second opinion on the calculations and stuff, but yeah I've since researched the company that came back to me and gave the structural calculations.
00:23:05
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Reviews on Google really good. They obviously just do this as a like another way of putting money. basic yeah Maybe they only take on easier ones as well, because this was a really easy one. Yeah.
Building Regulations: Council vs. Private Services
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Yeah. Great tip. I love it. so happy to be saving Dosh. Like you say, you shout at your builder nine times out of the same. They'll go, oh, that doesn't look right if there's something that isn't correct. And they do this all the time. So I know what they're talking about. And as I said in the last podcast, I'm using this builder because I've used him at least half a dozen times. did your house. Yeah. Really like them as people. And they're very, very, very good. And they care.
00:23:36
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And I never feel like I'm getting ripped off. And part of this has all really come to fruition because he said, shut away. was like oh amazing my quote obviously includes at least like three bits of steel so you're already like you didn't say this i'm just assuming thousands better yeah yeah skills are like you know anywhere between five and eight hundred pounds but the labor are putting them all in so i'm like yes yeah yeah that's the hard part we're really starting to claw back some of that quote because yeah building these agencies i thought 40 old grand plus fat, which is like, whoa, a lot.
00:24:08
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So I need to start clawing it back by doing work myself or having results like this, basically. Yeah, precisely that. Yeah. So that's a good start. Yeah. Good start. And then maybe not such a good start. I've done a yeah U-turn already after only two episodes on the Labor government. Yeah, I'm already going back to my manifesto. So basically, I was going to not use the council. I've applied for planning permission, and I've got planning permission, but then you have to do the whole building regulations bit, which is someone that comes to site, checks it's good, checks over a legal standard, and blah, blah, blah.
00:24:41
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And I wasn't going to use the council because I get so fed up of trying to book them. On my house, the guy worked two days a week. um You could never book him. He had specific hours. had to phone him.
00:24:52
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You phone him in that time, still didn't turn up. You email him, no response. And it was just so hard because the builder's like, I need someone there like this week. Yeah. And i've found it really frustrating. And I know people that have used external people to do this and that they're much better, like easy to book, come out straight away. Don't give you like, I'll be here between eight and five. It's like, be here 12 to two sort of thing.
00:25:15
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Much better. So was going to do that. But I can't even think I've always said this in this episode, my builder's been in touch with a two-week gap. if I said this already? No, definitely not. So our friend's house is under construction by our builder, our famous builder going to do all our mates' houses.
00:25:32
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But they have instructor engineer issues, so he's got a two-week gap. So he said, could I come to your house? i was like, yes, absolutely. Really excited about that. And I'll get into more about what wanted to do in that time.
00:25:45
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but it meant I hadn't applied for my building control stuff yet. Yeah. and I was like panicking. And so I was like, okay, so I've reached out to two private guys for recommendations of friends and who I've used before.
00:25:58
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And I think because I gave them such little notice and, you know, they had to just turn around, they gave me quotes of like 1700, 1800 pounds. And it just instinctively felt like a lot. That's nearly 2% of my whole budget.
00:26:11
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i was like oh man so i went on the council website had a look and it's hard to really put a figure on it because they do it all separately and they've got like you're upgrading your windows is like 150 quid yeah partly electrics might be this um but just the structural bit was like 450 i think plus fat i was like oh i just at this point i've just got to buy the bullet and go completely back on my track so now i've probably got i look like a complete u-turner and the council if they ever hear this thing well i'm not going to pass anything it does make me dig to like oil levels down foundations as well so i've got completely but again it's all about just doing this like as cheap as possible mu keeping high quality so i'm actually going to apply well i've done it i've
00:26:57
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putting the application through the council now and they're just going to let me know in the next few days how much i'm actually going to start paying yeah i'll start writing all these things down and put these costs down because again maybe someone at home is doing a similar size have a garage knockdown or single store extension out the back yeah and i can put what the council are charging for a visit and then maybe in another column say well I've been quoted privately as well. Yeah.
00:27:20
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Also, i think it's good for people to know you can do this because I would say, that as you expect, like stereotypically with counsel, they are just like overworked and stuff. on Yeah.
00:27:31
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It's 100% more efficient and better privately. But in this situation, three times the price is just a no go. Yeah. It's quite little headache. but Yeah. So now I'm a hypocrite. I'm a huge turner.
00:27:44
Speaker
But yeah, that was saving in my head, I guess versus the private versus the public. But yeah. So yeah, amazing. I got that going in as well. So the builder. Yeah. So he said that he's had a structural, went for structure engineer calcs on our friend's house he's doing. He's got a two week gap.
00:28:03
Speaker
So he said, I assume I can, can I come to yours? and i was like, yes, delighted. Yeah. I have been storing some stuff with some friends in garages like insulation and things like that. So I've cleared the garage, but I said, what can you do in that two weeks? Can you knock down the garage? Can you dig the foundations? Can you pour the foundations?
00:28:20
Speaker
get the degree and everything. He was like, yes, that's what they're aiming to do. I don't know whether they're going to do anything more. like Surely by the time the foundation is set, they won't have a chance to do any block work or anything. Our builder was a bricklayer first, so he he usually starts the the block work as well. so He might have time to do that. have no idea. It seems a bit much, I think. It's all weather dependent, right? Especially this time of year. Like if you get today, the weather's decent, isn't it? So they got weather like this, it's great. But like you had on this house, it starts raining. was going to mention
00:28:54
Speaker
i was going to mention that. On my house, where we're sitting in now, they poured the foundations. This oh this is going to make me look bad at the sound. We called the council to come out and they didn't come and they came two days to rebook and two days later in that two days my foundations collapsed. and in The whole time because the weather was so bad collapsed.
00:29:15
Speaker
So i don't I never asked what it cost me but what obviously it cost me more because the build had to go back in a lot of it by hand yeah um and dig it all out again for a second time. So I never asked what that cost me but I'm assuming got at least like 500 to a thousand maybe more was probably another week he did that probably way more it was a horrible joke yeah well as well and so he did say on this one with the time of year being december well we moved with january now but we started in december moving to january he's just going to shutter it so he's going to dig and just shutter as they go just because a the weather as you say is awful at the moment there's so much rain haven't we yeah and then the neighbor's garage
00:29:56
Speaker
so I think I explained this in the first episode, it's just a single wall that is both the neighbor's garage and what was my grand's garage. yeah so I need to keep you guys updated on what we're doing there as well, because presumably we can't use that we have because we've got to build the cavity and everything. yeah Presumably we're just doing a new cavity and a new external wall that no one will ever see from that point. We lose probably 35 centimeters or 37 of the carriage, which is annoying, but it's got to be the case because it needs cavity insulation.
00:30:26
Speaker
um But anyway, yeah, it's all good. So he's not letting me know starting date yet, but I think on the next episode, which will be my end of week three, I should know whether he's starting and potentially
Unexpected Builder Availability and Project Progress
00:30:37
Speaker
week four. yeah That's really exciting because it's much earlier than I anticipated. yeah And even him starting, that means I can do a lot more things moving forward that'll be like i won't start this till the build start yeah and stuff like that so i think a lot more structural work will be able to start as well yeah definitely we had a similar thing on ours where um we were gonna build on top of a shared wall
00:31:01
Speaker
And the same builder was prepping everything. He dug down and there was no foundation. So we couldn't use that. So we had to, we often got a gap like that. Exactly. And then the neighbor's got a conservatory that actually attaches to it. I told him, he was just like, yeah, well. but yeah it's not good idea to build on top of something that's always a tricky one I've worked for clients where they've had that they've literally had to build whatever I don't know what the legal amount is but you can't even get like anything to render it anything you can't even fit tool in there
00:31:34
Speaker
So I just have to make sure it's all done properly. So I don't want any exposed brick, obviously, on display or it's just got to be done properly. And I also just, I'm always like this on any job, but i just don't want to screw over any neighbor or anything. I'll make the house worse because it's just like an old lady. It's an old, like, person road, really, really nice.
00:31:52
Speaker
Quiet road. just don't like mess with that. I've even been, I always do this on jobs and hope you guys are DIYing at home, dos i I always get in touch with the neighbours when I'm doing like loud stuff. yeah So soon I'll be chasing walls with the shared semi-detached house.
00:32:08
Speaker
So I've already warned her saying, oh I'm going to be doing this, sorry for the inconvenience and stuff. But yeah I always try and do it, say, like I do all the internal stuff first, not on their wall. And when I'm doing the mad stuff, I'm like, i want to do it all in one day.
00:32:20
Speaker
inconvenience I'm trying to be like, you know, especially with setting it hopefully profit as well. Yeah. want to be like known as some wanky developer. Even though it was my grand house. It's not like that. As soon as anyone's flipping the house, you are. billa Well, I think the other thing is people work from home now, right? Yeah, exactly. Kind of stuck there down and doubt like in the olden days when people used to go to the office, it wasn't so much of a big deal, right? Yeah.
00:32:45
Speaker
Now people are at home, must suppose they've got kids or whatever. It's just so always like a nice courtesy. That's the other thing. I've got babies. you like you know Midday, it could be nap time or 11 or 2.
00:32:56
Speaker
In that nap world, i was like, God, I need to just message. But they're they're older and they both work not at home. Okay. think maybe a Friday. ah Even still, I just will reach out to them, but everyone's been really nice so far. yeah um It's just one of those things. And if the builder does start, just need to think a little bit more about like security because Brand's house is super secure with the garage. As soon as you knock that garage down, someone can just walk around the back.
00:33:18
Speaker
yeah So I always take my tools home. yes Unfortunately, i mean i don't know why i do this, but I think you do as well. I follow those like Instagram accounts with the tool theft. It really winds me up. I do follow one awesome guy who's trying to like,
00:33:32
Speaker
crack down. But yeah yeah it really winds me up that that happens. So ill always take my tools But even stuff like really cable that's like yay big could be like 100 quid these days. And you're doing this fancy cable now of like, you can get the earth that's already in there and stuff. it's like 100 pounds. So if someone literally you can walk in, pick that up,
00:33:51
Speaker
maybe make a noise and some of them might think it's the builders. I need to think about all of that. So I'm going to put a ring doorbell in, which I always do, because as you start to go really handy for deliveries. I recommend that massively if you can.
00:34:04
Speaker
You can have a wire one in, but if you don't have any electrical systems, you can just get battery operators, but yeah you just need to charge them a lot. It's just so handy because where I'm not living there. You just have some deliveries and sometimes the guy's allowed to leave it if you say yes. yeah So it's just so handy having a ring to door, but then you can just remotely say, I'll be there in an hour or whatever. Or even if you're on your way and you're stuck in traffic, yes you can kind of pull over and just answer and go, sorry, I'm on my way. I'll be there now whatever. but I don't know whether it's because I know you've got the ring security camera at the back, the lights and everything.
00:34:36
Speaker
I don't know whether to try and find like a used one or something on eBay that I can port in the back. Because again, I've got all the lofts to run like Bodger cabling quickly. And I can run the camera out the back with Spotlight. And also, have a nose on the builders I'm there. Not because I don't trust them, because it's just exciting. It's interesting. I wish I could record it and put it on Instagram or YouTube. So, A, it's a nose and it would be just security again.
00:35:01
Speaker
I'm not sure that it would stop these Pythons or people. but I just have to start thinking about that more as well. Well, we had the same thing when literally our the back of our house was open.
Security Measures During Renovations
00:35:12
Speaker
We didn't live there when we were renovating it and boarded out the back, but we didn't board it up as well. And someone broke in, normally stole our boiler. All this stuff, you're like, God damn it, actually need that boiler. It's like that and like ah a yeah radiator for our bath. It was in our lovely old-fashioned radiator. nice towel round. Yeah. Oh, you bastard. I don't know how hard I know.
00:35:37
Speaker
I was going to start defending you. I'm not defending you. I don't know how you can do Especially like you see those videos and you go to those boot sales and thousands of times. There's no even if there was like a brand new DeWalt there for like 20 quid, I'm buying that. Yeah. And that is clearly neat. How else could it possibly be there? Yeah. And you see some people like the initials on it as well. It's annoying things to have to think about. But it's sad, isn't it? Even my grand road is like a lovely quiet cul-de-sac and sometimes I'm like offloading tools I'm quite lucky. I'm like, I think if I leave this boot open for bit, nothing's going to get mixed. But at the same time, you do have to think about it. It's like if something got stolen,
00:36:19
Speaker
it's probably worth now like nothing but yeah right no it probably costs 500 quids they're selling it for 20 quid yeah but why you might you have to pay like 200 quid for it then yeah but yeah anyway it's more positive it will um hopefully starting in two weeks or two weeks yeah and then it'll shoot off again so the awesome um I think the weather's looking better as well.
00:36:42
Speaker
not like This week's the investment. We had loads of rain, haven't we? yeah Surely, and hit the de because as soon as the garage is down, which is going super easy. yeah i was really tempted do it myself, but I don't have the time with client work now. and It's literally a single skin at the back in a little L shape, a window, an old back door.
00:37:01
Speaker
Then the front is just an old-fashioned garage door, single skin again. Then the other wall goes to the house, and the other wall goes to the neighbor's garage. I think he'll do it in a day. Yeah. um And then start getting in the digger, maybe to break up the floor and whatever.
00:37:15
Speaker
I think just happening pretty quick. Yeah. That's really exciting. That should be in a couple of weeks as well. Fingers crossed. Yeah, mate. Moving well. Exciting. Yeah, looking forward to being upvading. there's meme next week. should i do next week i'm thinking of starting the overboarding of the seasons yeah i can do it by myself um i can i've got a plasterboard hoist which i've said uh we haven't actually aired that one yet but we've had some other people on here who have used the passport what's who we've spoken with it's so good yeah i can do it by myself so i'm going to do that to go over the old artx um yeah it hasn't got asbestos in so the uh reports said but you can't blast over it anyway you have to sort scrape it off and i don't artex is renowned for those at home for having asbestos yeah so if you have put it at home please do the asbestos test which again will put a link to more unpaid for us but yes i think i'm going to overbull the seeding and just because i like doing it might start looking at the rewire and stuff nice yeah i suppose I suppose you have to get your head around how you're going wire it right. So that takes time for itself. Do you normally draw it out on the walls first do you put it on paper? On this one, yeah. So this one's in my head. is so slow you know put the steamer on yeah yeah i've been just about it whilst i've been in the room building the room for so much yeah my grand's bed's flipping from the all she had it to the bigger wall where the water was yeah it's just the most natural place for bed so i'm like cool socket socket and like do i do a wall like was like no not on on we're selling and look weird everything about bedding yeah and if people want you just plug into the sockets and then i'm already started thinking down that line already so i reckon i've
00:39:02
Speaker
I know where 10 or 12 sockets are going. We saw it previously, we were flipping all the doors, so all the light switches, I know where they're going. Obviously, our home starts yet, so I've boarded the ceiling, so I know I can drill the holes for the lights and everything. Then if there is any, a specialist that the test didn't pick up, it minimizes the dust a little bit.
00:39:28
Speaker
I mean, I'm being very over the top of this because I took samples from old school rooms, but I'm just going to wash drill bits and stuff like that. yeah like Or maybe just go, mark all my holes for lights, drill, dr jewel with a drill, drill, throw it dump them. Even though it's not asbestos. No, it's just quite a bit insane, to be honest. After I'm really, I was going to say old school, new school that because all the old boys who I work with,
00:39:54
Speaker
they've got no mask no ear defenders no goggles no goggles the only one i don't wear is goggles find them annoying and they're smoking at the same time just you know i just don't want us to suppose anything no idea was it especially when you're making a podcast about that yeah yeah mostly it i mean i've had a few
00:40:24
Speaker
either hours work free business Yeah, going to that. um Again, I'll put this in the cost saving thing. I know this won't really apply to anyone, although there's a lot of DIY home accounts these days. right So if you do start to get a following, these things are definitely achievable. So a company wants to supply me with um skirting and potentially herringbone,
00:40:47
Speaker
and light oak flooring as well. oh nice um so I always into these things with a bit of trepidation, but they reached out and they've got like five different companies within them. won't go mention names yet until we like make sure I go with it. I was like, okay. um And I like a particular style of skirts and something when I go for like OG I think is it called? Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. You've got more like an older house than mine's you could for anything. But OG is the one like and they do it in like six inches, which is probably like yay big.
00:41:21
Speaker
And so was I was like, can have a sample? So sent me a sample and they sent me five samples of flooring as well. And there's one that's a bit like my one in my house now, like light open. yeah Again, it's like really,
00:41:31
Speaker
nice but neutral. So I'm thinking if a family moved in, if an old person moved in, everyone should like it. But it's just checking the quality of it. So I've got the floral sample, I'm going to show it to my floral guy.
00:41:44
Speaker
And then I can see just from the sample of this curtailing, I don't need to show it, it looks good. he's even got a little bit out of the back if you were to run any cables behind it. Oh, amazing. Which is quite cool though. Obviously, you don't need that. Everything's going to be chased in from Yeah. was that's quite a cool thing if you needed to like, even like a BT socket or aerial. You don't really need those sort of things in these modern homes. Yeah. But it's quite cool if you forgot something, you could like lash there. exactly. And if you're putting on new skirting, but your walls don't need plastering, you don't want to like chase everything out. So you think if you can get up behind there, then you can just run them all through there and then the plastering's minimal. Yeah, exactly. So that's quite cool getting those. I don't ever really reach out to companies because it just doesn't work. Every time i've been like, I really like that. In this house, I was like, I really wanted like a robot vacuum. and I reached out to old people and just like, go away, mate. Who do you think you are? yeah and They've probably got like Lucy Mecklenburg made in Chelsea. I was like, oh, it doesn't really work. when people approached me, I was like, oh, cool, okay, you've got more chance of obviously it happening.
00:42:46
Speaker
So I started seeing a few things for them, it's pretty cool. But yeah, to skirting, I'm definitely going to say yes to. yeah And I've just got to check out this floor. And that, I don't know how much skirting is because it seems to fluctuate on, like, if you're lucky with deals and things. I got my skirting in my house for an absolute bargain of, so primed in, I think six inch again, you know, gee, a 10 pound plus fat.
00:43:10
Speaker
And I think they did that because it was a loss-leading thing they do from
Choosing and Sourcing Windows
00:43:13
Speaker
time to time. yeah They obviously spend loads on stock they maybe even need to raise some money to do something else. yeah I thought that was complete nonsense, but i generally worked with a Howden's representative on who said that is actually a thing. the mains But I think the price more like is around £20 for free so i'm going to need loads so it could save me at least five six hundred pounds yeah so again bought it on the spreadsheet like tentatively it's not like saving everyone can apply for no it's kind of helpful for some people maybe yeah and i think if you do ring these places up this is
00:43:48
Speaker
quite a good tip rather than just order online because they just rely on people being lazy and just ordering online. If you ring up and speak to someone, you can sometimes haggle a bit with the price if they've got loads of stock or they want to get rid of stuff to make room in their warehouse or whatever, they might be able to, you know, if you're not fussy on what skirting you have, they might offer you ah a discounted price. Sometimes damaged things as well. Howland's always leaked stuff out the front that's damaged. It might be like a kitchen unit.
00:44:14
Speaker
It might be something like a sink unit, which like like who cares what underneath your sink, you might have a teeny bit, you might be able to come up with a clever way of putting something in front of you anyway it anyway, might literally be a tiny tent.
00:44:26
Speaker
There's always things like that that saves money as well, those sorts of things. Howlands are trade only, they do do things like that you know someone. okay um and maybe maybe there's a bit of skirting that's been damaged or something you get the whole length even though there's this tiny bit and yeah they definitely worth looking into but yeah obviously i love getting a freebie of course i'll keep updated with that because i've already had something for the garden i spoke about previously and then and then now hopefully this is looking good and then i'll just make sure a progress I make sure it's quality just because I'm selling it.
00:44:57
Speaker
Nothing in this house is going to be like cheaply done. no and as That brings me on nicely to the other piece of paper in front of me, which is um I'm going to start getting a window price in as well.
00:45:08
Speaker
so This is handy for me because I've got contacts from before. yeah I've got two window guys I use. One you used in your yeah one house. and I use another guy as well. um So I'm going to get the price into the windows as well. So it'd be grand, two front bedrooms, patio doors at the back.
00:45:27
Speaker
going to keep the sliding door in there. It's only like a small road, like two weeks are opening. So think bifold or something like that would be bit over the top. Again, who's the market?
00:45:38
Speaker
um kate It's not a fancy house. no and i think sliding doors are great because obviously once you open the sliding crops you get so much opening don't you yeah um so leaning towards going with that and then and that kitchen window i mentioned earlier in the back i'm chasing out people one i'm pointing lens doing about that so i'm going to get a quote for that and then that'd be like phase one then phase two would be like front door back door and then the new windows to the new extension.
00:46:05
Speaker
no suppose I can update you on that next week as well. Yeah. About those prices being because the guy, I've actually been up to he's um he buys directly from the manufacturers, which I'm assuming post-window fitters. Yeah.
00:46:17
Speaker
I actually went up to the warehouse up in mean um by allla certainly Midlands away somewhere. And actually when was doing My House, um because we we've got new PVC windows, but we've also got steel windows in the back and they did both.
00:46:34
Speaker
So I'm going to try and copy My House, but the cheaper version sort of thing. yeah So I've got these on My House in the front, these are steel in the back. i've got they're like 17 million trims okay and they just get really flat and they just they look like timber it meant to look like timber yeah they they do look like a business timber yeah they do um so they do like a more economy version of that okay i'm gonna go check out that and ask him for a sample of that just to compare to my house that's not the even source going haven't any surprises on this yeah it here i just want to do it all properly and then
00:47:08
Speaker
With the windows, gets so hard with family and old people, but a lot of people have gone for like amethyst like grey on the outside and white on the inside. yeah and that's what I'm leaning towards. White does look nice, obviously, can't go wrong. And black also can't go wrong.
00:47:25
Speaker
But I've just looked at a couple of bungalows that sold for like big money. Yeah. And that one, and I told you previously, that sold for like 800 grand, which is a ludicrous price. And if you were anywhere near that, it's bigger, yeah with a bigger garden. They had anthracite grey on the outside and like definitely not that like real you know you just want double glazing windows you got like the cheapest one possible it was definitely a couple up from that you could just see yeah so i'm just towards copying them a bit as well i'm going emphasize gray but yeah it's those little touches that probably not push the price up that much but make it easier to sell yeah exactly ah exactly this is an empty house i think it needs a wow factor on the outside the bricks aren't like
00:48:05
Speaker
the most beautiful bricks in the world. It's not like an older house like you live in where the bricks are really attractive. yeah So I think the windows need to be good looking and then the front door needs to be good. And the bit I nearly forgot to mention was, Graham's got some weird like hexagonal
Porch Renovation for Aesthetic Consistency
00:48:22
Speaker
porch. oh yeah um It's got five sides to it, which I don't even know if that's hectic. And it's just got a flat bit where the door is five sides, think.
00:48:32
Speaker
yeah And again, all the labellers have updated the house have just got rid of it. It just looks weird. It's kind of like a ball in on your nose type thing. It doesn't look quite right. yeah And it just draws you to it. So I'm going to get a price included in squaring that hole So I think two of the walls can stay then we square off the three.
00:48:52
Speaker
yeah Obviously we have to make sure the footings are there to square that off as well, which something I haven't budgeted before, wasn't with the builder's price. think I might have looked at doing it myself, digging and pouring concrete and making sure that's solved. And then I probably, well I definitely will, I'm not doing the bricks. i will ask the builder to lay the bricks ready for the new quote on that oh nice yeah it's changing yeah definitely mate it's all moving along nicely yeah coming well at this stage i'm like excited to still keep going the fact that the builder said he's gonna give me two weeks i'm so happy yeah i don't know how long he's been shooting off for yeah still just it's ahead of schedule should have been february march and it's like early jan and yeah i'm gonna come
00:49:33
Speaker
That's great, isn't it? And it's exciting when bricks go up, right? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it's all good. Perfect, mate. Well, thanks so much for today. That's been a really good one. So we can tell the guys a little bit about who we're speaking with in the next episode, maybe. So we're in terms Stacey from End
Teaser for Next Episode with DIY Influencer
00:49:50
Speaker
of the Row. Yeah. High five there.
00:49:52
Speaker
of the, was going say tens of thousands listening, but would a complete lie. I bet people have heard of her. She is an amazing, she's got like 300,000 followers on Instagram alone. can't remember what she has on the others, but we're speaking to her next week and she did, on the end of the road was an old terrace house, wasn't it? And then she's moved to Ascend Attach now, right? Yeah. they Like a really attractive house and we're speaking to her. So nice, yeah. Yeah, she's a really nice person. Yeah.
00:50:16
Speaker
Really funny as well. Great conversation. that That's going to be on the next one. And then do you want to answer one? email my first ever email open the email so the email is from someone called rob okay he's written in to say basically i'm i'm reducing because i'm not lying in email with masters so shorting in it and putting him over he basically said where'd you find tradesmen he said long and short of it is he wants to do an extension next year knows nobody um and just doesn't know where to begin and he wants some tips from us basically
00:50:50
Speaker
Well, yeah, thanks for emailing in Rob. appreciate your question, mate. um I think the best thing to start with is to see who's been doing work down your road, right? If you don't know tradesman, obviously, you know a tradesman that you use a lot and I got my tradesman through you. If you don't have that option, then it's always worth looking down the road and speaking to neighbors.
00:51:11
Speaker
That's a really good tip. Just to see if they've had any work done, if they're happy with their work that was done. and you know that builder's done something good and they're in the area, right? I think so. I think finding someone as local as possible as well was is helpful. Not that I don't want to taint tradesmen and stuff, but I just feel like if, say you live in London, like Clapham, the builder's from Clapham,
00:51:36
Speaker
I just feel like it's easier for him to do the job because he lives locally. He's also not likely to do a genre as much than wherever he lived in like East London and he's just like, oh, he's gone forever and he never find him. So that's what I would say as well. But I think you've got go into Instincts and speak them about like the whole thing. yeah and We've got another couple of interviews coming up where they've like fallen out with some several builders. You've got to try and find some the sort of a lines of how you are as well. like Some people might be really organized and be like,
00:52:06
Speaker
I want a timeline of what's happening in the first month, what's happening in the second month, because I'm doing DIY alongside that as well. yeah i think sometimes people just say, oh, I'm doing this extension.
00:52:17
Speaker
Is my plans giving me a price? When you actually just got to like, get into detail with them and spend a few hours with them and just try and yeah go with recommendations 100 but you've got to have some instinct to yeah yeah i'm a real stickler for like as well just like the vans neat and tidy on the post and then like i don't know like some days after work i'm like filthy yeah if i was just going to quote for someone there's no way i'm turning up like i would i wouldn't like take down a chimney breast and then go and quote something in a state i just wouldn't yeah so again it's a bit judgmental because like there must be some people like that who are amazing builders and yeah but it's just my like instinct is like i think if they're like
00:53:01
Speaker
seem tidy and respectable and the van's neat and hopefully that transitions into quite neat when they work and respectable in the same way. Yeah, I'm a real like people person. I like to meet the person and talk to them and decide on that. So I think you can kind of suss people out quite well, right? Exactly. I'd rather use this person that seems legit, even if they're slightly more expensive.
00:53:27
Speaker
yeah otherwise there are websites as well like check the trade and um can't think of that my build is another one yeah yeah i've used my build in the past and had zero success from it okay um just guys you just want like rush off don't tidy up check the trade i think i've used once or twice and been okay and there's tons of reviews on there yeah and i think they do have really good um excuse me like I don't know there were like auditing system where, do you remember I had my dodgy fence going?
Finding Reliable Tradesmen and Closing Remarks
00:53:54
Speaker
That was through CheckerTrade, ironically, and it was went badly. And I got in touch with CheckerTrade and I actually did take them off. And actually did proceed with They're not allowed to give their address or anything, but they did burn up the middle now in it. So it was like, I'm taking them to a small claims call and then they forwarded that on and blah, blah. So there are those websites as well. But I think family and friends, contacts, and you're right, in the road's a really good tip.
00:54:21
Speaker
hopefully surely most people if you've got like a row of like on those and send attacks like my friends yeah someone is probably more bungalow the same status where they've done exactly the same as you yeah or maybe more or less than you and you can just get some advice you might even find a treatment in most growth as well sure yeah you would hope someone i don't know if we've answered that maybe we've answered our first ever question yeah cheers for writing anyone else who wants to email in our address is hello eiyguyspodcast.com um ask us anything if we can't answer it um i can reach out to a few people that we've worked with yeah or use uh yeah yeah awesome that yeah we're going to so many guests over the next few months it's a really good tip because some people specialize like older properties as well and we might not have as much experience in no we can happy to ask guests as well yeah and we can dm us um if you're young on instagram and the diy guys podcast as well yeah that'd be great well
00:55:20
Speaker
Thanks so much mate. No worries. I'm looking forward to speaking to yourself and Stacey next week. Yeah lovely, have a good day. Have a good one. Cheers guys.