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C1 Ep. 98 Eberron Reviewed 16
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This week Eric, Jeff, and Philip sit down to discuss the party’s trip to Wroat and all things that went down. Come join us as we break down the latest arc from Eberron Renewed!
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Introduction and Acknowledgements
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Hosts Introduction and Format Change
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Welcome to Eberron Review, actual play D&D fifth edition podcast. I am your host, Jeff. And I'm Eric. And I'm Phillip. As you can tell, because I'm introing the episode, this is another Eberron Reviewed. We actually are going back for the first time in some time to doing a three month, a three episode arc. Instead of a three month arc. Instead of a three month arc.
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or longer. But yeah, so we are going
Humorous Teleportation Scene in Roet
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to just jump in. I did listen to the two episodes that have been released today. I'm very proud of you while I was on the treadmill. And guys, it was not motivating at all. So, yeah, so the whole thing starts with us teleporting.
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Into roet. So yeah, we land we land the land we phase into roet I always envision teleporting you land like a couple inches above the ground and kind of drop in but it's not the it's not the Star Trek the glitter in water solution. Yeah slowly phasing in And we are
Arrival in Roet and Royal Escort
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We're not challenged immediately, right? We make our way to where... No, there's a crowd trying to get to the circle as soon as you get there, because people are freaking out trying to get out of the city. And we are able to make way for the king to get through. But to be fair, Bornell is able to make way for you, because he kind of steps forward and... Yeah, they didn't give a whole lot of...
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like, in regard to it. Like, they, the whole, like, they were silent for a second and they all started screaming again. They ran away. Like, anyway, we find our favorite
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The fan favorite.
Character Dynamics and NPC Humor
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Ruation. Most wanted character to show up on the show. Vore is there and Rookin is there. And they immediately, and Rookin is just, you're clarning it up, just like he does, just being a pompous dillweed. I mean, it's funny that you would specify that Rookin is being that way.
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Why is that? Because Rookin is an NPC in Eberron Renewed. You make a good point. That is the standard mode. I noticed Murt was that way a lot pretty much too. Murt was no, don't you put that on Murt. Murt was kind and just trying to get through the day, get to lunch.
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I can't the.
Jeff's Teaching Background and Fake King Reveal
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This was also the episode where where you found out that Jeff did a short stint as a high school civics teacher. Because was that did we have the conversation? We find out that they are not at the office, right, that they're having the vote. Yeah, I thought that was back at the office. No, it was on the way. OK, but basically, I mean, Rookan obviously is surprised to see.
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something resembling King Borenel. He doesn't know it's King Borenel. And you know, we have our little exchange, like, how could you let this happen? Dude, you let this happen. Like, you were here with the fake guy and didn't realize it. He was like, I thought about it. Like, OK, whatever. That's exactly how that conversation went. That is exactly how that conversation. Rupkin sounded exactly that stupid. Yeah. Well, I mean, I listened to it today on two X speed, so it was that fast. I can fill in the blanks.
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Um, but yeah, Rookan, uh, tells the King to come to his office and King Bornell, of course, being a diplomatic obliges. And on the way we learned that they, the parliament is about to hold, is it like a couple of days later? Yeah, I think so. I think it was in a few days. It's measured in days. Yeah. A vote of no confidence in the monarchy. Um,
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And then he catches it that weird way about, Oh, you know, we don't want to let us go to war. It's like, well, you have to vote on that. So is that what you're voting on? No, it's a monarchy. Okay. Um, this is, this is my root kit now. I just, um, you know, I'm the mid prime minister. I just want, you guys want some more power. What was that? Anyway. Um.
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I'm trying to think of questions to ask along the way, but it was all pretty straightforward. Like Rookin is not a lying manipulator because he has power and he likes to flaunt it. Yeah, that's fair. And he certainly doesn't think that he has to mince words or speak.
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with anything other than this is my turf around Barrick and certainly not these other two people that he barely knows. Yeah, that's fair. I think that's a better way of putting it. Like in the proper company, I'm sure he can lie, wheel and deal, like... Chooses his words carefully. Does all that, but you all are not on his radar for that kind of behavior. Right.
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which i mean i guess because when i was listening to it i was like he's being just as crappy to us now as he was when we were nothing back in mist march but he doesn't know what we've done he doesn't know any of the stuff so he still thinks that we are i mean i guess clearly we look different and there's a goblin now
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It's, Rookin might think that he just misremembers. Like, you just had a weird looking friend. Tiefling, goblin. And also Dex is unrecognizable. That's right. But that's something we kind of realized later on. It might be that he doesn't know we're the same people. It's true, he knows you're very. I look somewhat different. I mean, to be fair, Vore spoke ahead that you were coming. So, yes. That is true. And that is, yeah, unfortunately,
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But I like to imagine that Rookin might've gone, you have a brother? If I ever took a note, it should have been to keep track of what I looked like when I met each person. I think I've done a pretty good job of that in some cases, but certainly not all. Yeah. I think I think pre
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Pre the return to Stormreach, you were just Lyle the whole time. I was with a couple of quick bounces into other stuff, but I didn't become, yeah, Vern until, I never became Vern. I've always been Dex, let's be real. I'm a cosmetic changeling. But yeah, that was when we went back to Stormreach. You're right. I think you should permanently become Damien De Caneth.
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That was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one. Maybe I should always be that little halfling boy.
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Only if you always do the voice. It would wreck my voice, but I'm willing to do it. We do have our one, while we're speaking about him, just so we don't have to circle back around later, we do have one vore-related question from a listener on the Discord. Thank you to all of our wonderful patrons for giving us questions. Laura continues her streak of vore-related lore. Vore lore, this week on vore lore.
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This is dumb. Not the question. This is current, what's happening right now. Yeah, so Laura asks, because I guess this is happening every time. What does Vore think of Barracks drastically changed personality? That's a good question. I think- I mean, Vore has not experienced seeing Barracks drastically changed personality. Yeah.
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In that episode specifically, Barak came across as very much putting on airs, I feel like, to a certain extent, not the way he used to. I don't remember if this has been said, but was Barak kind of a, was he a brat? A fence taken.
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What? I'm asking if Barak was a brat. I was talking to Eric. Well, yeah, we're always offended. No, I don't think Barak was a brat. I think there's probably were times where being, you know, being the, being the stepchild, all this, I think there were probably times where Barak was sullen probably and moody.
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I imagine that Berwick as a teenager was probably a very moody teenager.
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I think teenage Barrick was probably in the theater club and wore a lot of turtlenecks. Oh, so he was moody back when he was a teenager. That phase is behind him. Okay, gotcha. Barrick is no longer moody. Barrick is depressed. Yeah, no, that is certainly fair. Well, because, you know, I mean, he was the well-stationed son of a war hero and, I mean, celebrity.
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Calling barracks mom a war hero in the sense of she is well regarded in all circles is not factual. Oh, yeah, because they she's a controversial. Yeah, she was a loose cannon, right? Yeah, maybe she lost a lot of life, made a lot of made a lot of decisions that could be seen as so not great. Sure. That's fair. Because, yeah, I mean, the personality that Vore sees in this arc is just
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But he was the awkward son of that. His existence was awkward.
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a guy who's not taking crap and not respecting social mores because he's got. This is a thing that I don't know. Panic attack is the wrong word because that's not what a panic attack looks like. But. This is this is Berwick in some form of meltdown. Well, and in reaction to everything that happened earlier that day, right? Well, and from Vore's side of things, there's like
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bare minimum 15 things on his plate right now going on. He's the high ranking assistant to the prime minister on the day the king got killed. So lots of stuff going on for him. And I don't think, and I know we've had this conversation before, I don't think Vore and Barrick were close. No, I don't think so.
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So, okay, so we get to Rookin's office and what are the, so before the, um, the King's eye shows up, uh, there's a, there's a bit of conversation, uh, the particulars of which are eluding me right now, but it was essentially just a,
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Rookin saying, like, yeah, we need to make sure you're the real king. And yes, a lot has happened and a lot has changed. And we are trying to move forward on our side of the government. Right. To fix the what the the war brewing with Karnath and the invasion. They just invaded Druam, right? Druam and troops are massing on the Andarian border. Andarian border, not Karnath.
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Well, no, he was also saying that relationships are in the toilet with Carnath also. Right. So there's a lot. Yeah. And so and that's basically it was a lot of exposition. Like there wasn't a lot of challenging of that because
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No reason to think he would be saying things that weren't true just for whatever reason. And then we meet new friends. You do meet new friends. We meet. The title characters of this arc. The eyes of Breedland. Yeah. The King's eye. And I'm not mistaken. The King's eye is not a thing. This is you. This is me. Yeah. Making up a new branch. Yeah. Great.
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with the scariest sounding individual title of Inquisitor. Yeah, the Inquisitors, which, yeah, that is not a good connotation for that title. I don't think there's any, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong and feel free to tell us in Facebook if you can think of one. I can't think of a fantasy setting where Inquisitors aren't bad.
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The only, because I don't read a lot of fantasy, the only one I can think of right now is Dolores Umbridge. And she is bad. Yeah. And then of course there were the Inquisitors not from fiction that were also not great.
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Right, yeah, there's the real ones that are bad. What did he say? Oh, the eye has seen it. Was the little motto, not motto, it's just the thing you said. The turn of phrase. The turn of phrase he used. I'm very proud of that turn of phrase. Not because it's particularly good or witty, but because I came up with it off the top of my head in that moment. It was good. That's solid. I mean, you said it and we all went, ooh.
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But so he rolls in and they, oh sure, they, because Mert doesn't come in first, that's right. So these two guys come in and they're like, we're here to collect the king. And no one in that room with the exception of, I guess, Rookin probably was going to be okay with that. I mean, if Rookin has any ounce of self-preservation in his body, he's not going to be okay with that.
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That's fair. And not like this organization has parliamentary oversight either. Right. So so Barak says no. And Dex says no. And we all threatened to shoot one of them. And then
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And then there's that little matter of Dex becoming a member of the landed gentry. Because yeah, he was like, who's authority are you speaking on? I was like, well, really? I guess I don't have any authority. And then I became the Lord of Mistmarsh. And that's staying forever. That's real. That's not just some silly title. That's a thing now for two reasons. One, it's cool. And two, it makes Rookin mad.
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So, okay, so the king's eye, let's talk a little bit about the king's eye. The king's eye is analogous to the homeland NSA? Yeah. Because they're not CIA, the dark lanterns are the CIA, right? Yeah. Yeah, these are very much internal, making sure that people are patriotic enough towards the nation. I think KGB might be the... That's fair. The better touch point.
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Yeah, no, you're certainly right because they they're not on the I mean, obviously they can't really be on the up and up because they were created by they were created by a fake King Belbitt on destroying the nation. So you're right. You know, I didn't think about it. Like when we drop that on Mert, like, hey, this organization that you left the dark landers to become a member of was founded under the pretenses of destruction of the country. We didn't let him sit with that.
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Um, much. I don't know that it would have gone well for us, though. Probably just made him angrier. Yeah. There wasn't a lot of time to let anybody sit with things. No. This is not a campaign where you get to sit with things. Yeah, there's not a lot of considering. Uh, but so, uh... React, React, React! Right. So, but, uh, uh, Beric,
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You, what was the, you did a spell, you froze person and rolled a 20 or whole person party and rolled a 20 as well with your little speech. So it was basically like, all right, there's going to be straight up forthcoming with us or at least merge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was just looking to not like ruin the encounter in some way because it was a, it was a good encounter and fun. Uh, but just like somebody to
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I as a player sometimes feel it that I have a character who is one of the most powerful spellcasters on the planet that he lives on and is frequently treated like a naughty schoolboy. Yeah. So having someone give me straight answers just once in a while, that was just going to be a morale booster for Barak and Philip. That's exactly what I was going to say was it wasn't so much that we wanted to know all the truths. We just wanted the straight answers and I was all for it.
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and we got them and so what all did we find out we found out that they that they are composed of a fair amount of people who were already in the citadel but there are definitely some new recruits and those are the ones that are concerned to decks for sure including the grand inquisitor
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Right. The leader, Zaedra, who we also find out is not even, that might be in the next episode or the third episode, but we find that when we meet her, but we found out she's not even realish.
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Yeah, she came in from Stormreach as a protege of Lady Seljandra, the most creepy of the Storm Wars. Which directly contradicts what Commander Bala told Dex back in the day saying, you're not a citizen so you can't be a member, but I know we've thrown the rules out the window because the king is fake and everything is crazy.
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But back to the conversation, yeah, so we learned, I mean, ultimately I report to the king, but daily I report to Kor, but also this. So Kor is over the Citadel. Yes. And Zaedra is over this arm of the Citadel. Yes. Was Bala the Zaedra of? No, she was, Bala was in charge of the Sharn Dark Lantern. Okay, middle management. Or station eight. I mean, bureau chief. Yeah, bureau chief.
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Yeah, sure. Makes sense. Is there. I mean, it's like a Joint Chiefs of Staff thing. Yeah, like there there there is a head of the Dark Lanterns. Gotcha. But he's so mysterious. The Changeling. Or halfling. I think the Changeling is head of the King's Shadow. Maybe that's what it's a Changeling or a halfling that's very good at disguises.
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I forgot about the shadow. Shadow, dark lantern, storm, storm sword, and I, I guess now, that's it. Shields. Shields. Shields. And wands. Holy crap. And wands. The king's got a lot of things. Yeah, wands and wands and swords are basically just special forces. Shields are the secret service. Lanterns are the CIA. And shadow. Shadow is like black ops. Gotcha.
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And now we have the eye, which is the KGB, which is the bad one. You want, you got to have the KGB and the CIA working together. That's got to be, that's going to go real well. Historically. So, but so basically we're trying to negotiate with MERT. We're trying to negotiate with MERT to say, hey, listen, we get that you don't trust us.
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I did understand that, Dyches understood that, but he wasn't willing, and I assume neither was Beric, to just be like, okay, yes, you can take the king now, for whatever, to be inquisited. And Merges wasn't willing, how much longer?
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was Mert ever gonna give in and be like fine, we'll take him somewhere else? I know obviously eventually he acquiesces because of- Yeah, I mean, eventually he gives a little, well, ends up giving a lot. I mean, there's just, there's no...
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In my mind, anyway, getting into Murt's head, there's just no logical reason why he would believe what you're selling. Like, you're a bunch of people who have shown up with potentially another lookalike of the king.
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And you're just telling him to trust, trust you, trust us. Well, but we weren't just saying trust us. We were saying test us, but not there. Take us to the Citadel headquarters. Take us to the, the king. Is it a, I mean, is it a palace? I don't even know. Or does he have an office in the Citadel or? In Ferris, Barak, I think involved fairness. Barak was not saying, trust me.
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think Barak was saying, there's nothing you can do about this. Get on board. He definitely did say, I mean, he basically did say exactly that. And I like the idea of
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I think that that inspired Dex hearing Barrack say, hey, look, we really aren't to be trifled with, so please don't trifle with us. Kind of made Dex go, okay, this is who we are now. Like we're going to be upfront and say, we're going to get our way because we are stronger than 98%, 99% of the people within a hundred miles of us.
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And so it's probably best if you just acquiesce now. We have a strict no trifling policy from this point forward. I like it. No trifles at all. Charlie makes a trifle, throw him overboard. It's over. We're going to wreck so many people. Captain Vron is a changeling who is the head of the Dark Lantern. I'm sorry, Captain Ron? Vron. Vron with a V. R with a V. Yes, Captain Ron from the 90s movie of the same name.
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No, but, but not. Well, you believe your truth and I'll believe mine. I mean, he could look like that if he so chooses. Why would you choose not to? Um, so yeah. Anyway, and he could change to do it because you have to have seen them and everybody's seen Captain Raw. It's a pop culture reference that 100% of our audience will understand. Yup. Yup. Yup. Definitely.
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So much older than so many people in that discord. Anyway.
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But yeah, so it ends up, Eric says role initiative, and I go first most. Because you do. What I'm gonna say is I go first most all the time, and when I hear role initiative, and there hasn't been a fight for a while, I'm not thinking about diplomacy. I'm thinking about hitting somebody. I wanna hit somebody hard with a thing. And so I do, and then Barak's like, okay. And then Booyah misses his attack, and so Barak's like, all right, everybody calm down.
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And that's when you give the great speech, the very good speech. I think my favorite line was, if you do this, was it less of you will go home than came today? Good one. Knowing you and your knowledge base, is that adapted from some other famous rousing speech? Not from a rousing speech, but
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or also a video game prologue. One of the two. Aragorn says something similar to Aemir in the two towers when he's trying to walk into Rohan. But Rohan is the one you can just walk into, right? Yes, it's not that one. There's another place you can't. Mordor, one does not simply walk into Mordor. It's really complicated. You have to walk in a very complicated way. You have to do a very funny walk. Yeah, a very silly walk.
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Boys, you know, I started that and I'm sorry. I think if you split hard enough, you can look back on the train of thought that we left about a mile ago. Captain Ron, that's what we're talking about. Okay, so Captain Ron, so this is Martin Short. Wow. I was the one that said, let's get in, do this and get out. You are the one who said that. To be fair, this is all content.
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So it gives the speech because Berwick isn't actually looking to kill anyone. Right. Like this, Berwick, these are.
00:25:22
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Eric actually does understand where these guys are coming from. He just doesn't have time for it. There's too many things going on. And they're not as far as we know. Well, especially like we believe Mert is who Mert says. And by this point you had said, I'm not getting any changeling vibes, which wouldn't be a thing except for that was the purpose of, or that was the way Randy used his 20. So we believed that that was definitive.
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Um, yeah, I mean, these are, these are breather shoulders who were following what didn't look like, uh, nefarious orders for however long, right up to it, including we need to check out this new King that, and it is mentioned really convenient timing. Like it absolutely is. It's suspicious timing. It's almost like there was some coordination. Yeah. It's almost like they had something to do with killing that guy. Um,
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And of course, that's not true that we coordinated that at all. But you got that one wild card. But. The fight stops. The negotiations to go nowhere. It's just no one gets hurt. Yep. And as soon as soon as another exit, as soon as Philip said, oh, I've got this, I was like, oh, I know exactly what he's going to do. And you bamf out. Well, first, first.
00:26:45
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That's not entirely true. The combat stops, but the fight is not out of Murt. He sends his crew home, but he's gonna stand there and he's gonna, I mean, he's gotta know once they leave that he's going to die trying to complete this order. Like, which power to Murt for standing strong, I guess, and his caster friend. Well, and it's not just once he sent them home, he knew he was going to die. Once he saw you all begin to flex in combat, he knew
00:27:14
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they all were going to die. So he was going to send his men home. But what I mean is he chose, when he sent them home, he drew his sword again. He was like, all right then. That's what I'm saying was like, okay. He could not let the order go undone, but he wasn't going to let his men die because he knew that they were going to die. For the record, none of them were going to die except the ones that were targeted by Booyah.
00:27:42
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And to be fair though, Booyah, I think might have the biggest spike damage capability. Absolutely. And so you all might take two or three hits, but each round he's going to kill one target. Yeah, pretty much.
00:27:59
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Yeah. What is it? I mean, like it's it's dumb. Like when he when he sharp shoots, which is a feat I'm never allowing in a campaign I run, he has a plus 20 something damage. Right. Like don't want to talk about it. If I next question, if if let's say that I hit with my ribbon weave and I roll everything perfectly, I think I can do forty nine points of damage, maybe forty eight.
00:28:27
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And yeah, Booyah, if he sharpshoots, can beat that. If he sharpshoots on somebody with his Hunter's Mark, like, there's a bunch of things to it, but if he gets everything lined up, it's nuke. Like, he can nuke it hard. I mean, it was mentioned in the thing, because we were talking about our level up, he said if he sharpshoots against a favorite enemy, and I think Hunter's Mark as well, it's plus 20 damage modifier, yeah. But he gets to roll extra dice when, like, certain things, it's dumb, it's dumb.
00:28:55
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I'm just going to make him start punching things because he'll still be more damaged than anybody else, but anyway.
00:29:08
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So he bamps away. Tords, because you all find out the Krastin three are out dealing with the riots, and that's why you want to get there. This is the most scattershot. I think I've been in one of these where I'm like, oh, but 30 minutes earlier because Borenel wants to go help 30. Right. And that was and that was the thing, the thing that have been that made. I mean, Philip had made it clear he'd already thought to do this, but the thing that made it really nice was Borenel said, did you know what he was going to do? Did you hear him say I've got this?
00:29:37
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I had no idea what he was going to do. OK. Bornell said, OK, fine, if I go with you, can they go help three? I was like, that's good. That's good, Bornell stuff right there. But yeah, so Philip Bamps out and he says 500 feet towards the fight. Which used me and Booyah there with our fingers up our noses and and leads to the greatest thing to ever happen in our campaign.
00:30:06
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I don't know what you're talking about. The thing that Jeff didn't want to happen. I don't acknowledge it. It's not Jeff's canon, but it's our canon and that's okay. But since I'm part of establishing canon and a particularly canon of my character. Well, you've been outvoted, so. It's in the recording. To be fair, you got to ride the horse. It was Booyah's canon that like... Okay, so here's what happens.
00:30:35
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Something magical. Well, no, I'm going to I'm going to put it from Jeff's perspective starting a little earlier. I've been jonesing for combat. For a while. I just got to hit somebody. So now the bloodlust is on. Once once you get it, all that did was arouse my appetite without bending it back down. And and so. When he 500 feet closer to the fight, my only thought is,
00:31:02
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I have a minimum of five rounds before I can get there. Krast and three are already there and Barak is Barak. And these guys don't seem, I mean, these are just soldiers, right? So I honestly thought there was a chance that I was going to get there and I was going to see just a strewn about group of unconscious bodies with the three of, the four of you born all as well, kind of just standing over and like, you missed it, dude, it was awesome.
00:31:32
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I forgot how good that feels. Not born out, because to be fair, he does not have his hammer right now. He's very sad about it, but he does not have his hammer right now. Where is his hammer? It's on the ship. He didn't bring it with him to the flame keep.
00:31:44
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Yes he did, he was tossing it. Oh right, so yes he does have his hammer. I forgot about that. I can't imagine he ever doesn't have his hammer. Every scene it's, I'm gonna go get my hammer. I think the hammerhead just threads onto his royal scepter. Nice, he's just got it in a satchel. He's got a bunch of different hammerheads strewn around the palace so he's just thread one on and go.
00:32:11
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I think when you said a bunch of hammerheads my my head went to like sharks no no no no went to like green arrow like he's got his boxing glove hammerhead he's got a spiked hammerhead he's got his net hammerhead got his magnetic pulse hammerhead anyway boy green arrow that guy got some weird it's a weird character so D&D
00:32:41
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guess while we are running as per Philip's request we are Luke and Yoda ing our way running running running
00:32:52
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Okay, you roll a 20. I rolled a 20. Okay. I did roll a 20. That's what it was What was I rolling for perception? Maybe likely acrobatics, you know something cuz I don't remember what the resolution of the roll was I just remember the 20 got me a horse Yeah, we had a long talk about how Dex is as fast as a horse and literally if you go by the stat block of a regular D&D horse Dex is in fact as fast as a horse I Am going to race horses for money
00:33:22
Speaker
That is what Dex is gonna do with the time jump. That is Dex's new grind, is that we go to a city, Krast goes to the fighting pits, Barret goes to the library, and Dex goes to the track, and when they say, how would you like to place your bet, he just points to himself and walks out onto the track.
00:33:49
Speaker
and then he pulls a hamstring. It's a whole deal. Didn't stretch before hand. Finds a horse. A house made a list. Mage bred horse. Yes. Faster than. We started. We started the horse up to where I was basically going to get there in two rounds instead of five. Yes. But or two rounds instead of four because we've done a round by Booyah notoriously does not like horses. Dex.
00:34:18
Speaker
Obviously. But Booyah does not care what Booyah likes and doesn't like. But Booyah like decks. So, if given the choice of which one he's gonna ride.
00:34:30
Speaker
Honestly, the reason that I didn't... I mean, it is funny. Of course, it's funny, and I think it's great. But in the moment, I was like, no, I really need him to get off me because I want to dismount this horse quickly, efficiently, and in a really cool way so I can strike down somebody when I get there. And I can't have Booyah clinging to me. But ultimately, who cares? We do, which is why we all thought so much. We got both. Yeah.
00:34:57
Speaker
Fair. But before we get there, something happens to Beric. Oh, yes. Yes. Eric used that spell. Eric got I mean, actually, Beric got two spells that were that prismatic ray spray ray spray. Yep. I said them both. So still, I'm right. Prismatic ray spray. Yeah. Well, spray is how I said it, I think.
00:35:27
Speaker
That's a heck of a spell, right? That is a heck of a spell. Such a heck of a spell that I only get to use at one time with that character block. So, high level. It's a high level spell. Oh, I see what you're saying. That character at his... That's his big, big hit. Right, like he's got a fifth level spell that he can do once per Long Mask I think, or whatever level it is.
00:35:52
Speaker
Cause yeah, it is like you said, it is basically the wizard copying what a mind flayer can do. Beholder, but yeah. Yeah. Beholder. Pardon me. I should know. Uh, yeah. And we've seen a beholder do it and he wrecked shop. Yeah. Luckily I'm not hit with the worst of the raise, which is it's a random role paralyzed. I think there's a disintegration raise in there.
00:36:17
Speaker
No, not with it's a seventh level spell. There is a disintegration eyeball. There's that's right. Yeah, that's right. No, indigo. It's on a failed save, you become restrained, then you continue to make saves. If you fail three times, you become petrified. So it's hard, but possible to become petrified. And then on the violet ray, you are blinded.
00:36:46
Speaker
And if you fail the save on the following turn, you're transported to another plane of existence of the GM's choosing, and you're no longer blinded. So, although if you roll an eight, you get to do- Which is what happened. You get to do two rays, and so it's possible to be restrained, blinded, petrified, and then teleported to another plane of existence. Oh, man. That's a way to handle a problem though. Which that's what we call one heck of a pickle.
00:37:17
Speaker
So, but he gets hit and he, you know, shakes it off. It's like fire and lightning or something. Yeah. Stuff that we're used to getting hit with. It was a hit, but I mean, each of them was I think you you succeeded on both saves, though. So it was only one save. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And he did succeed. He rolled I think 21 or something.
00:37:34
Speaker
Yeah, so you only took half 5d6 for each race. Yeah. But then, you know, we're galloping, we're galloping, we're galloping. And then the magic user who's not done with Barrick yet turns him into a tiny bird. Indeed. Polymorph. And of course, Barrick, you know, you know, they say when you're stuck in a difficult situation, stick to what you know. So Barrick kills himself.
00:38:01
Speaker
Wow. I couldn't get through it. I tried to say it straight and just like, that's a good line. I laughed at it. It's not even that funny. It just tickled me enough that I laughed my way through it. But you did. I mean. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:16
Speaker
I still think I still think you should have been into a window or a mirror because birds are dumb. Wasn't available. Yeah, I'm sure there wasn't a mirror in that town square or a window in that town square. Anyway, yeah, very dive bombs, because I mean, I guess that makes sense. Like you.
00:38:35
Speaker
Here's my here's a question. And that was a wizard, I'm assuming. I mean, magic user, like it's a it's a monster card, so it doesn't have character. Gotcha. Because I'm thinking spell lists. Yeah. What is that like?
00:38:53
Speaker
Is that Polymorph? Yes. Does Baric have Polymorph capability? I don't actually know. I don't think it's on the Warlock spell list. I might be wrong. I know it's on the Bard spell list because I had a player who is a Bard and destroyed one of my encounters by polymorphing my awesome Hydra into a seabass.
00:39:16
Speaker
I was listening to another podcast today where a guy was talking, it's not a D&D podcast, he was talking about when he plays D&D, his favorite thing to do is whenever they get in a fight, he polymorphs one of the people into a small dog, then he immobilizes them, digs a hole, puts a minute, covers it up, and he's like, all right, that's done. That's dark. That's horrifying.
00:39:42
Speaker
it's funny the way you said it anyway um uh just so everyone barred druid sorcerer wizard okay and the trickery domain of clerics the greater question then i guess is what i'm trying to figure out is would you play barrick in such a way or have you played another magic user in such a way that if a spell is put on you
00:40:04
Speaker
that you know, like, you have the knowledge, okay, if this bird dies, I'll go back to myself.
00:40:14
Speaker
Yeah. So, uh, it kind of depends, um, in general, Barak has expertise in Arcana, um, through one of his feats. And so Barak knows a lot about magic. He has learned a lot about magic. And I also reasoned he had watched this specific thing done, which had taken crafts out of a fight that was highly consequential to Barak. Um, right. So it made sense to me that.
00:40:43
Speaker
Eric would have tried to figure out what can I do to solve this problem.
00:40:48
Speaker
OK, so in the in the meantime, you looked up what spells could do this and how they work, because we because Kras didn't die to get out of it. He just he just timed out of it. Yeah. Or either timed out of it or win. I think timed out of it. Oh, yeah, because it was hours later that we finally were able to kill. Yeah. The vampires name escapes me. Lucan. Yeah. He figured I'd remember him. He was important.
00:41:22
Speaker
It's an interesting question to me. Only me, but I got my answer. And then it's just kind of a fight for a bit. And then Dex, I honestly, I reasoned out Dex would do this because Barrick just did it. And I was like, all right, you'll all die if we keep doing this. Can we please stop now? And it worked. And then- And then Mert arrived. And then Mert came a huffing and a puffing down the lane.
00:41:40
Speaker
But, okay, so that makes sense. I was just wondering, because I don't know how that stuff works, like.
00:41:52
Speaker
And that was the end of the episode. Oh, and at some point in there, I learned about mage bread tigers. Mage bread ghost tigers. Yes. And so that's what the episode ended. And now we have to talk about the next episode, which I've not heard yet. Yes. For listeners listening to this after it's been released, we were recording this two weeks ago before last week's episode dropped.
00:42:14
Speaker
Boy, I just went cross eyed trying to parse that sentence out. Right. So the episode is good. Third episode. OK, so third episode begins with so we've got Mert, his magic user, three, three of the five guys that were attacking three and crashed on the ground. The other well, the other two are neat, like on the ground. We had them kneel, I believe.
00:42:41
Speaker
One of them is dead, Barak killed one because he cast confusion on me and then the die roll determined that I attacked whatever was nearest to me. Right, yeah, no. So the magic user's dead, the other... And there's a wonderful moment where Jeff, Dex assures all of them that we're not going to tie you up or anything as Barak's pulling out a length of rope to tie all of them up. That did happen. That did happen. Which, I mean, it was smart, but... No, that was fine.
00:43:09
Speaker
So Mert comes down the lane and gets there. And we have the conversation again, but now he's kind of seen that we're not taking no for an answer, or we're not taking, we will not be doing what he wants us to do. And we are willing to do what it takes to keep from that. And finally,
00:43:33
Speaker
the thing that I've been trying to get to happen since we got to Rowette, somebody cast Zona Truth, because three is able to do that. And that is enough for, oh wait, does Drakir show up? I think, because you're- That doesn't happen until we're at the Citadel.
00:43:51
Speaker
Oh, really? Uh, yeah. Okay. I apologize. I thought that was, I don't remember what the role was, but Barrick rolls a 20. Very, very importantly in the commotion, Dex's new bestest horse, the mage bread has made his horse runs off. Right. Cause you vaulted off of it mid gallop. So Booyah got off of it later. And oh, that's right. He was like, and I shouldn't have to roll an acrobatic scroll because Dex didn't. Yeah. Booyah rode you down.
00:44:18
Speaker
So anyway. And I said he landed on his face and that's canon, too. That's fine. I'm good with that. I like. Anyways, Eric rolls a 20. I don't remember why or what it was for, but it was one of those moments where I rolled a 20 and was like, I don't know what to do with this. So it was probably another perception or something to see maybe that or inside. It was it was something to do with that moment there. And so what do you do with it?
00:44:48
Speaker
Well, I decided that Dex, or that Drakir had better show back up. With Commander Bala? With Commander Bala. And Thorin? And Thorin. You decided that Thorin came along too. I didn't know if we'd establish that, but... Thorin was there by the time we got to the Citadel. I don't know where I had reintroduced him, but... I think he came along with Drakir. Okay.
00:45:11
Speaker
It makes as much sense. Obviously, I also have not listened to the episode because it hasn't come out yet. Because Thorin was looking for Bala, like makes sense where Thorin was after everything. He was just copper pointing everywhere. And as as as they were coming back into the city, Drukir happened upon this very nice horse. Enroll or cast friendship. And animal friendship did. So dumb.
00:45:40
Speaker
Every nice thing the decks gets one of Phillips characters gets something a little cooler has touched your ribbon weave, which I gave to you from level one. That's true. And you know, I love the ribbon weave, but like, let's compare what the ribbon weave can do to what Erebus can do just for a second. That's fair. Or the freaking vocal sword. And I didn't even ask for that.
00:46:10
Speaker
All right. Well, I'm not wanted. So you can finish this one and I'll see you Saturday. Right. So Balla is back. Tricky is back. Thorne's back. Even more is a new horse. Here is a new horse. And my assumption is that Balla is of a mind with us now.
00:46:29
Speaker
between, I mean, the fact that she had been arrested by the old Boredell, if nothing else, this just... Well, Balda was always, like, from the word get, because she was the one that gave you all a heads up to get out of the country. She's always been on your side. No, I mean, that this is probably the real Boredell, and that guy was what I think. She's probably on board with us, if for no other reason, it just fits with the narrative that she needs to be true of the king, the real king didn't actually think I was a traitor.
00:46:59
Speaker
She also witnessed the death of the impostor, and so would have seen him transform into a changeling. Right. You know, she knew that he was the faking. That's certain. Yeah. Just on board with the fact that, like, I'm sure Drake here and Thorin and as much Drake, you know, much more than Thorin were, you know, saying things like, yeah, but the real ones here now, he came with, you know, Eric Rowan, Price's, Yurick Rowan's son, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, no, because she knows Barrick, but they don't know that she knows Barrick. And so anyway,
00:47:31
Speaker
See, I thought that we did the zone of truth thing as a means of convincing him to go to the Citadel. But was that just numbers? And that was just this is what we're doing, essentially. Look at all these people. This is what we're doing. So, OK, so we do we go to the Citadel. I'm sure we talk along the way. And do we go straight to Coors office?
00:47:53
Speaker
No, Mert, this is where the Zone of Truth thing comes in is at the gate because Mert tries to insist that the king is going to come down to his interrogation room or whatever horrible sounding place. Right. No, because... Well, you've listened to it. The conceit was before you all left the
00:48:14
Speaker
Headed towards the Citadel because the eyes have a separate headquarters and that's right. It's been trying to take him right that our seat was I Will instead question like my men will question born on three at Citadel HQ so you all can go with us Then once we arrived
00:48:31
Speaker
and he said, okay, I'm gonna go question Boranellan III now. That's when what we're about to discuss happened. So no, the horrible interrogation room is in a separate building. He didn't want to take them. All right, so when he still continues- He did want to take them there. It's not, it's permanently cast with zone of truth. It's not that bad. His job title is inquisitor. There's never been a good one. He's inquisitive. He's an inquisitive soul.
00:48:59
Speaker
then his job title should be inquisitive, because that's a title in Eberron. But it's not, it's inquisitor, which sounds much scarier. Anyway. Yeah, no, I think I'm gonna fill up on this one. Zona Truth. So yeah, finally, somebody casts Zona Truth, and this is like, hey, you're the king, right? King's like, yeah. And that did it, I mean, I don't know. Shattered Mirth's entire worldview. Well, okay.
00:49:28
Speaker
Drakir cast Zona Truth. But Burt Caster confirmed that it happened. Cat confirmed that Zona Truth had been cast. Right. And then Drakir was the one that verified that the king had told the truth. Yeah.
00:49:44
Speaker
Alright, so anyway, zone of truth, Mert still doesn't buy it, I guess. I thought he did. Mert sits down. I thought he did. Mert got all, like, sad and depressed, which I took to be he realized that he was in the wrong all this time and was gonna go home and feel bad about himself, which is exactly what Phillip wanted to happen. There's a lot of feelings going through Mert's head right now.
00:50:03
Speaker
I mean, I don't necessarily want for Murt to feel bad that he was following Zaedra's orders. I want Murt to feel bad that he didn't just listen to us. I want Murt to feel bad that he didn't think for a minute. Yeah, he really didn't.
00:50:22
Speaker
And so we do go to Kors office. Yes. And Kors is Boredell's brother, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. And then we had to talk our way through the, we had to get through the door because the guards wouldn't let us through because they'd been ordered not to let anyone, including the King through. Oh, that's right. And Zadra has their families, is what they told us. That's right. And then there's, that Drakir's on the horse still. I remember. Yes. I recall that.
00:50:54
Speaker
don't we end up with some hair braid plan, like we'll make it look like we beat you up. Isn't that what we do? I totally forgot that. Yeah. And it was one of those things. Okay, but you got the offer, right? And it was like, okay, but you got to hit me. And it's like, cool. I didn't think about that till just now that that all happened. Yeah.
00:51:14
Speaker
So yeah, oh man, you should have seen it, there were nine of them. You know, the kind of thing. We do get in the door. There were almost nine of us at that point. I think there, I mean, let's count it out. There's three, Bordeaux, the three of us, the other two of us, and Bala. Is that it? Yep. That's eight, yeah. Yep. And it's not eight lightweights.
00:51:38
Speaker
No. So, so Barrick dramatically swings open the double doors that open inwardly after much begging from Philip to let that happen. It wasn't much. I know. You said please, please let them open in. So dramatic moment. The dramatic moment. And then once again, treated like a naughty, naughty schoolboy who's just walked into the principal's office. Right.
00:52:04
Speaker
But boy, what a dramatic way to walk in. Who are you? Get out of here, you fool. You dirty little child. That was the implication. That was between the lines.
00:52:18
Speaker
Describe Zaedra again? Or did you really describe her at all? I didn't give much description of her. I don't need to go back and listen to the episode to make sure I'm not conflicting myself, but I think she's just a human woman in her 30s. Okay. Blonde hair, pale skin. She's a person. She's a lady.
00:52:49
Speaker
OK. But go ahead. So the barrack checks. Oh my gosh, yes. Launches Moonbeam at it. And it turns out I apologize first. And if I'm not mistaken, it wouldn't have necessarily even proven that she was a changeling.
00:53:10
Speaker
correct if it had gone off she just it changed shapeshifters have disadvantage on the saving throw to prevent themselves from reverting back to their natural form so if she failed to throw it would it would have okay yes yeah but instead it just hurt
00:53:30
Speaker
So yeah, that's fine. Whatever. She's not. We have no reason to believe she's a good person. Her title is Grand Inquisitor. She's obviously evil. And two dudes just said she has our families. Also true. Yeah. Which court does address that claim in the conversation. Yeah. Yeah. But I still don't buy it. Oh, they just mean they live on base. No, sorry. That's not we have. That's not she has our families.
00:53:56
Speaker
That's, she could kick us out of her homes. That's different. That is very different. I don't buy, I don't buy that at all. She's definitely evil. Absolutely.
00:54:08
Speaker
And here's the thing, I know that there's a lot of conversation that happens in this episode. I remember very, very minimal clips and phrases of it. I remember Drakir straight up confesses to several murders. And then confesses to framing other people for said murders to make Crass happy. And Thorin almost gives away his role in it too, and he's like, oh yes, the man you have, trust me,
00:54:34
Speaker
I would know. He's perfectly innocent. Well, how would you know? I suppose I wouldn't. Sorry, I'll see myself out. That was my favorite part of the entire episode. And Dracure confesses to all of the murders that no longer matter. Right. Fair enough. He does not confess to the one that could possibly still have consequences.
00:54:55
Speaker
Wait, which one could still have consequences? The wine inspector. The perfectly innocent man just murdered and thrown in a dumpster. But that doesn't have consequences because nobody will miss him. Right, but that guy, but if Tricure goes, I feel like nobody will miss him, doesn't cover, nobody will ever find that body and want to know who killed this guy. That was very clear. I think I'm speaking to limit my own statement. I feel like I...
00:55:21
Speaker
clearly intend to that to be, he's not going to be noticed while we're pulling our, our scheme. Drakir didn't just murder him. He retroactively eliminated any family and friends that this man has. Like I understand what you're saying, but I like my version and that's the impasse that I'm at.
00:55:39
Speaker
So I hope you can understand when I tell you that. Anyway, that's why dude here does not hear fain's innocence fain's ignorance of that one. Yeah, that's true. But so let's run down the stuff we've learned.
00:55:55
Speaker
Well, first about Zaedra. Okay, so we learned that she is from Stormreach and that she was a protégé of Lady... Is it Sel-shodra or Shell-sodra? Sel-shodra. I mean, I don't know why I asked. I will get it wrong six more times. I've already forgotten. Lady Sel-sodra.
00:56:16
Speaker
That lady. The gnome lady. The gnome Lord. And which is like the only context Dex has of this is she is conniving and ruthless. Self Audra is because that's all he knows of her is she runs a fighting pit and she I mean just has no
00:56:45
Speaker
moral quandary with that part of it. And then also like I don't remember how we got crass back. Was it wasn't just money, was it? No, it wasn't. It wasn't money at all. Oh, no, it was. It was it was go. Oh, it was go tell the go tell. Yeah. What's his name that we know he's a last site. Go tell the last night that we know he's a storm or a dark lantern king shadow. Oh, he was shadow. Yes. Yeah.
00:57:15
Speaker
Because under normal circumstances, Shadow is the only branch of Citadel that non-briefish citizens can be a member of. Gotcha. So that's right. So it was, yeah, it was a double cross thing. So yes, hi, Pippa. So yeah, so that's all Dex knows. So Dex even more doesn't trust this woman. And this is her protege.
00:57:42
Speaker
No, sorry, I mean Zadri, because of what he knows of the person that taught her. And she's mysteriously brought in to lead a group of people made by a false king that wants the country to be destroyed. Oh, and also she has these two guys' families. And she's brought in from a city that's under the control of the inspired. Right, all of it. It doesn't, I mean, it adds up to bad.
00:58:05
Speaker
Yep, it does add up to bad, that's what it equals. And I don't remember much more about her, it was much more relayed about her. I mean, Cor just corroborated most of her story, but from a very kind of neutral like, yep, because I thought it was my brother giving these orders, so I didn't question it. Yeah, we don't really get into Cor, like how he's feeling.
00:58:31
Speaker
Yeah, probably bad. I would go bad. He's probably confused. Yeah, maybe a little hungry. Definitely surprised. I believe caught off guard. But so I think it's just kind of conclusion at this point. Do we learn anything from core that I'm leaving out that's important?
00:58:54
Speaker
Not that I can recall, the last thing that you all learn from Zaedra, and it's after Dex and Booyah leave, is that essentially the consensus blame outside of the room where you have a drow confessing to killing the false king, just the murmurings on the street is that it was an Andarian hit, and so things are about to pop off. Right. Oh, and we do say like, you know,
00:59:20
Speaker
Oh no, that's in the second episode when we're talking to Rook and they were like, hey, why doesn't Hadith call Karnath and say, you know, ease those tensions? And why doesn't, why don't we make sure Emissive gets to Drowam saying that the real king didn't start this? And, but that's all the second episode. Uh, that very well could be what Core and Zaedra are discussing when we, but so Eric refuses to be dismissed. That's the other thing that happens. Yeah. Eric refuses to be dismissed and Drakir and his horse hang out in the hallway.
00:59:50
Speaker
And Dex is kind of like, all right, we got the king back where he's going. I assume we're gonna be here for a little while. I literally can't do anything inside this room because no one's gonna listen to me. May as well go help my friend Krast. Even though you are a lord, nobody's gonna listen to you, which is- The lord hadn't gotten around yet.
01:00:10
Speaker
Oh, they'll know. I mean, the hierarchy of Breeland at this point, you out-rake Beric, so, you know. He's gonna get it tattooed on his face. He's gonna change like a tattoo onto his face. Here's the question. That white cloak of mine. Did you add writing onto it? Will it lose its power if I get some Velcro letters?
01:00:31
Speaker
They've got to be, they've got a sequence like Elvis or I said Velcro, I meant iron on, but, uh, cause then, cause then you can just, you, you, you'll have, you'll have your, your, you'll look like Elvis. You'll have your fancy walking stick, your big watery cane. It will be full. Yep. That's what happened to Dex, isn't it? That's what happened to Dex over the course of this.
01:00:52
Speaker
You started dressing like Elvis. Is Dex turned into... Is it the live concert in Hawaii, where he's wearing the white jumpsuit in the white cave? I think it's Vegas. I think that's Vegas. Is it Vegas? I think it's Vegas. And he's 45 pounds overweight. I mean, just sweating buckets. I want that persona of... I want that to be Dex's next cover. It does an overweight music shit.
01:01:23
Speaker
Boredale can't send a picture ahead. You could just show up with the written missive as Vegas Elvis and have that be your Lord of Mistmarsh persona. I don't like it. Well, as we learned from the horse incident, that doesn't matter. All right, fans, let us know who's right. You know, I don't have to do this.
01:01:50
Speaker
We're coming up on 100 episodes. You're pot committed at this point. You gotta see this. It's almost 100 episodes and I still don't know how to play this game. Yes, welcome to episode 98 everybody. I'm kind of sad that episode 100 is going to fall in the middle of a recording session because that kind of... Yeah. Episode 100 is definitely a milestone for leveling up though, right? We'll see. I feel like putting the king back on the throne ought to be a milestone for level. I'm just saying.
01:02:17
Speaker
It seems like a story milestone to me. So Dex goes off and Booyah goes with Dex. To go help Krast. To go help Krast. And I mean Thorin goes as well just because I mean that is literally his job is to do this stuff. So it's like, well, see you later. Back on my grind, I guess.
01:02:37
Speaker
I don't know, wasn't he taking a personal day? Like, isn't this his personal day? Didn't we establish that when we pulled the murder off? That's true. He'd taken a personal day to do this. A personal day on the one day that he was brought into ROAT to work for the execution. You know what? I'm not feeling great. That's not true, though. He had been in ROAT working at the prison for some time. Not some time, but he was brought to ROAT because of high profile targets being put at the prison.
01:03:05
Speaker
Yeah, so he took the day. Who cares? It's fantasy. You teleported, shut up. Your fantasy is a teleport, minus to be able to take PTO at will, okay? I'm not sure which is less realistic, but a guy can dream. You know what no one's bothered us about yet?
01:03:28
Speaker
we just walked into a house civus teleportation station and they just let us use the circle without paying yeah no one's bothered us about that yet i thought booyah paid booyah paid did booyah pay yeah booyah i didn't remember that yeah okay i love that anytime we ask a question about booyah it sounds like we're doing an impression oh booyah paid booyah paid
01:03:51
Speaker
Booyah did? Booyah killed. Boy. So do we want questions? Sure. Let's do questions. So we did get some questions since we put the call out today that are answered in the episode you've heard last week. Yeah. Where's Drakir, for example? Riding a horse. Although where are the ghost tigers? We can't answer that one. We don't know. Yeah, because Eric's mean. I know. I know exactly where the ghost tigers are.
01:04:19
Speaker
Well, I do too. They're all out in the rainforest. It's apparently full of ghost tigers, which I did not know. And it now feels much more dangerous to walk the countryside of Brelen. Also, I didn't know Brelen had rainforests. That is weird. That is the description. I mean, I guess it's, you know, sort of near the tropics. Yes. To be fair, like the Pacific Northwest is technically a rainforest. I guess that's also true.
01:04:47
Speaker
It's not a tropical rainforest, but it's a rainforest. Oh man, I don't know which is scarier. Ghost tigers in a tropical rainforest or ghost tigers in the gigantic like massive tree forest. In the mere woods.
01:04:56
Speaker
because they can't mine. That might be scarier. Oh, okay. So let's get to some questions. Are Booyan decks going to start a show with their new horse skills? I don't know what that is. You could earn more money that way, like race the horses and then do a fun, a fun show at the rodeo. Yeah, but I don't know what she's talking about. Okay.
01:05:17
Speaker
It didn't, there's not a- But the answer is yes. Yes, and that's always the answer, yes and. Okay, so- Bornell has two ghost tigers. Oh, so I'm just reading the questions in my hand and then going to answer them. Laura asks, how many ghost tigers are there and what are their names? Bornell has two pet ghost tigers, correct? Yes, they're given to him by House Vaedalus in exchange for him letting House Vaedalus
01:05:45
Speaker
take animals out of the king's forest, I think. Yeah, there's shady political corporate arrangement. Paragraph is awkward, but he likes them so much that he started breeding them and releasing them into the wild. You know, responsible things. Which is the strongest evidence for Boranell being a bit dense. I feel like it fits into how I've been portraying Boranell. That's good, more cats, cats, good, more cats.
01:06:12
Speaker
And they don't have names. That's true. They wouldn't come when they were called anyway. They're cats. Who cares what their names are? At least they're not. At least their names are not given in. In the book, right? Okay, so Liz asks, while the end of the story could be a bit away, I feel like we're entering third act territory. How do you guys see your characters after the adventure, assuming they all survive and that Barrick is totally free of his revenant agreement and won't die immediately having completed his task?
01:06:41
Speaker
I mean, there's so many caveats you have to put on there. Well, here's the thing. Even if Dex survives the mission, even if this is the beginning of the third act, given what happened in the first two acts, I think a lot of things are going to happen that are going to inform the answer to this question. I don't know that I could even. Well, I want to address one part of the question that was the wish for the Dex like
01:07:04
Speaker
Barrick is free of his revenue agreement. That's what we kind of established. That's why he can't ping the packed holders anymore. He's free and clear of that. And has been restored to full life. Upon completion of the task, he wouldn't die. There are obviously consequences to no longer being in the revenue agreement that will probably come up at some point. But as soon as Eric thinks of what's really bad or they haven't already. No.
01:07:34
Speaker
I feel like they definitely, at least some of them have definitely fallen. All the worst stuff happened to Barrick before we broke. Well, as Pala was after.
01:07:45
Speaker
So that all but one of the worst stuff happened to Beric before. We haven't established that that's good. No, I mean her death. Oh, yes, that's true. That was bad. That was also very bad. I remember it being pretty bad. Oh, yes. To be fair, that's not on the Raven Queen, though. So that's true. Right. Beric feels that very clearly who that's on. I
01:08:11
Speaker
Man, I had a really interesting breakdown of this campaign into neat little acts, and then the campaign started happening. And we just blew it up. And I mean, the end of act one, as I, with inverted commas around it, is when you all left Miss March to head to Storm Reach. That was the end of act one in my head when it happened. Episode 12. That was so long ago.
01:08:35
Speaker
Like this is a good act break. So what you're saying is like like Shakespeare. This is a five acts production No, this is I I'm oh over the course of the campaign I've grown to a Phillips way of thinking of it's it's much more like a TV show like this This is the end of a season kind of thing like and it's definitely like lost because you don't know what you're doing I mean I
01:08:57
Speaker
My speaking from someone who doesn't know what Eric Scott planned, obviously, you better not beyond a very small amount that he shares with with us in preparation for some episodes. I it feels to me like we're entering the end game. Yeah. But what it feels what it feels like to me is that we now have
01:09:23
Speaker
some directives that will get us to the end game. Like I feel like we have a concrete plan for how to do what we need to do now. Fair enough. Let's go do it.
01:09:34
Speaker
Well, and it's I am reluctant at any point to say there is X amount of time left or X number of episodes left or X number of arcs left because there's at least at least one additional arc that's been added to the narrative based on things that you all have done. Like Lucan's death.
01:09:55
Speaker
added a lot of landscape to this campaign because his knowledge is just gone. And so. So, yeah, that's that's another aspect that where I'm reluctant to say, yeah, we're in the third act or we're in the final season or whatever, because I don't know what you all are going to do in reaction to what I present. Sure. Might go crazy. We might be playing this until we die. Yeah, I mean, we still got to get back to Joanne some.
01:10:23
Speaker
What? Nothing, I'm kidding. And then her last is, in character, have they even thought about the future in something other than abstracts? I mean, the closest that Dex has gotten was that conversation with Gerald about what after this. And he was like, I don't know. So no, he hasn't. I actually haven't answered both of those questions in terms of what I perceive. There's been some discussion on the Patreon Discord.
01:10:53
Speaker
Uh, that Barak is going to either end up Obi-Wan Kenobi or Darth Vader. Is that depending on how things go, he's either going to end up vaguely sad old man living in the wilderness as a hermit or just insane and evil. Either way, he's going to look like Darth Vader.
01:11:14
Speaker
Right now, it's lending itself, I think, towards the Obi-Wan method in that Beric might just disappear one day and just go find a hill with a cave and stay there for the rest of forever. But in terms of Beric's thinking, I think that conversation with Gerald that you had was the best evidence that Gerald knows jack crap about Beric. If he thinks that Beric can't walk away, Beric would love to walk away.
01:11:44
Speaker
desperately wants to walk away. But if Barrick walks away, what happens? Yeah, fair enough. Okay. Oh, you know, that reminds me, there were questions earlier about Gerald, but we can address that. Laura says, speaking of which, have y'all given thought to what's coming after this campaign? And I think we get one Saturday a month back.
01:12:15
Speaker
I think Eric runs another campaign. I try to convince him to use the Genesis system. I'm gonna run a campaign where we're all gonna be high schoolers, and the end goal is to make it to the prom on time. And I'm gonna do something else. But there's magic. That is still set in Eberron. Because the name of the show is Eberron Renewed, so we can't change settings. Well, I'm a disruptor.
01:12:43
Speaker
No, we have not given thought to us. We're going to this campaign. I don't think this campaign is as close to done as they seem to think it is. But I'll say this. I think that and I'm speaking for these other two, but I'm right. We have no intention. We have no intention of not continuing this podcast when this campaign is done. This is this. We will fire up a fresh one. And I don't know if it'll be Philip or Eric GMing. I know you definitely won't be Eric.
01:13:11
Speaker
Do it. I said it won't be Philip and Philip said it will definitely be Eric It's definitely not gonna be me. No one wants that at this table or out there in the world Philip is GMing a minimum of two games at any given time. Oh, that's right. I forget you have I just need to blow up one of your home games I forget you get to do this in the real world to in the flesh space
01:13:36
Speaker
But to answer your question from my end, Laura, I've started taking some notes here and there about ideas that I have, but I have not started fleshing any of them out, so. I have a character in his backstory. I'm just kidding. I always have like six characters running around in my head, but that has something to do with D&D. They're just in there.
01:14:01
Speaker
All I know is after this campaign, the next character I cook up will have some magic use. I mean, I'm not saying I'm going to be like a wizard, but you know, like something that has some spells. It was fun being Thorin. I will say this, and it won't be able to give a definitive answer until we actually end this thing.
01:14:23
Speaker
There's I would say right now it's a toss up as to whether or not the next campaign will be a sequel to the story we're telling now, or if it will be like a new story in like in Eberron, if that makes sense. Like a reset. We have wholly affected Eberron in so many different ways that it might not be fun to play in after the campaign. It might not be Eberron anymore. We might break Eberron. So
01:14:52
Speaker
So yeah, it's a toss-up right now, but it's definitely gonna be a rom-com right? Yes, for sure.
Rom-Com Clarification and Future Plans
01:14:59
Speaker
Okay excellent Just so I'm clear rom-com isn't some gamer speak thing that I don't know I was making a romantic comedy joke. Oh If it is I'm not hip enough to know what it is
01:15:16
Speaker
Irene, what are your character's thoughts on next steps? Going after giant weapons, finding Drakir and Commander Bala. Well, already done. Go back to Miss March and live it up as Lord. I love how she didn't put a Lord. She put Lord and capital like. As the Lord of Miss March. You are the lord and savior of Miss March. Well, I think, yes, we're definitely the giant weapon seeking is pressing. I mean, I feel like that's
01:15:45
Speaker
Yeah, that's the obvious next step. Vaguely, Barrick would also be considering finding that dragon. Yes, the next pact. No, no. Well, we'll get to that. That's what we're talking about, right? Yeah. The dragon has a pact. Yes. Not for the pact necessarily, but the dragon has a pact. Yeah. So going and finding that dragon would be somewhere on Barrick's list.
01:16:12
Speaker
For reasons, but yeah, I mean the giant weapons are the most obvious concrete next step, right? As far as living it up as Lord has missed Marsh, is it like Congress? Where do I just have to own a home and miss Marsh? But I can live elsewhere cuz I don't want to go you already you already own a home and miss what I'm saying was just squatting in it
01:16:31
Speaker
I don't necessarily want to live in Miss Marsh, you know? I just want to be Lord of Miss Marsh. You definitely don't want to live in that house anymore. We need to burn that house down. Yeah, that house is getting, at very least, it's getting stripped to the studs. Luckily, you're in charge of zoning laws now, so you can build me a home. And fire permits. Anyhay. Anyhay?
01:16:56
Speaker
And then it's just some talk about the spelling of Paula and that's no
Gerald's Role and Group Dynamics
01:17:01
Speaker
more questions. So, okay, but there were questions since the last one we've done about why the guys are so mean to Gerald, why we're so pushy with Gerald and why we feel like we can just tell Gerald what to do. And I think the main thing is that because we can just tell Gerald what to do.
01:17:19
Speaker
because Gerald's only information about what is going on in the world is from us going and doing things and finding things out because he won't leave the boat. And I took. Dex thinks or Dex has thought this whole time that Gerald is on board for the mission after having seen what happened. He witnessed a storm reach burn. And he's still with us and he's still doing things. He is powerful and it is his ship and he could say I'm done and he hasn't.
01:17:50
Speaker
And so he has to ask, where are we going next? Because he doesn't know where we're going next, because he won't leave the boat. And I don't think that we're necessarily mean to him. He is an NPC whose primary utility is getting us from place to place. And that's when he tends to show up. When he asks questions, when he starts a conversation, or when there's some utility to having a conversation with him, we're not jerks any more than we are to everybody else.
01:18:16
Speaker
uh i don't think maybe i'm reading it wrong i'm not reading it wrong because it's fiction you can't read it wrong uh and i made it um but um the author the author the author is dead the authorial intent of that was that
01:18:34
Speaker
And then Laura made a good point. There was a time where, uh, he, he brought, uh, skiff down to offload lady over on. And then we all walked away and he was like, don't go back up. Like, yeah, but go back up. If you can't make that decision on your own, maybe you do need to be told these things. Um, from, from my perspective and from barracks perspective, there are two different things from barracks perspective. Uh, um,
01:19:05
Speaker
Gerald's self-righteous scolding of us, that did it for Beric. Beric is not over that. And I don't think Beric has deliberately had a conversation with Gerald since then, which is probably why Gerald does not have any understanding of his ideas at all, as evidenced by his conversation with Dex.
01:19:33
Speaker
From Phillip's perspective, everything has to do with first impressions. The first time that we met that character before Eric had any idea that he would stick around and become a significant character, Eric presented him as Keanu Reeves in Point Break. And that fixed in Phillip's head as, oh, this guy's kind of stupid. And I've never been able to shake that because he continues to talk like a surfer dude. And so I have the impression that
01:20:00
Speaker
that in my head, and I know it's not true, like academically, I realize it's not true, but in Phillip's head, Gerald.
01:20:08
Speaker
Gerald's kind of a dope. And also Booyah and Gerald have a really good relationship. It's just of the three of us, Randy is the least often to go, okay, I want to do a scene to establish this thing or to flesh this out just cause that's not how he plays. He, he, you know, he plays in the moment and reactive. Uh, I don't want to speak for him. That's how I, I feel like he plays. That's how it's come across to me. So.
01:20:37
Speaker
I don't want to discount if you guys think we're mean to Gerald. I apologize, you feel that way. But we have reasons in character for the way that we talk to Gerald and why we talked to Gerald and stuff. And I don't think unless something happens in the story to soften that or change that.
01:20:54
Speaker
If Gerald starts getting off the ship and coming with us and starts having agency beyond allowing us to continue traveling with him, I mean, cause yeah, he does seem dopey, but he doesn't, he's not a dummy and he is power and he is powerful. And it's, I mean, I don't know. I feel like there's a part of me at this point that's like,
01:21:17
Speaker
There are so many big threats to the world that if he wanted to, it would be justified for him to overcome his fear of the dragon marked houses and start helping out off the ship. I'm not saying Jeff wants for Eric to start doing this. Like I'm just saying there's justification for Gerald to kind of have that.
01:21:36
Speaker
Well, that change of heart about it. But again, the way you have described it a couple other times, how really terrible his life will be and how very dangerous. Yeah, I mean, like you all are more powerful than 99% of the individuals probably in Corvair, but the collective might of organizations coming together to hunt you down. That's what Gerald fears, not getting into a fist fight with somebody and getting taken like the relentless pursuit of all 12 dragon marked houses.
01:22:06
Speaker
is his worst case scenario. Have you seen John Wick? Yes. We're for John Wick. I think Barrack's view on that would be and Barrack's not cruel enough to raise this question because Barrack thinks he's right about this and if
01:22:26
Speaker
If Gerald can live in a fantasy world that makes him feel safe on the boat, that's great. But Barak's obvious question here, what in the world makes you think you're safe on that boat from the combined might of the 12? Well, I think in Gerald's head, nobody knows that he exists. Nobody knows that he exists like this now. Yeah. Maybe. The only people who have seen that mark are allies and a guy that got thrown off the ship.
01:22:55
Speaker
Right. But didn't die. I don't remember that episode lost the history, so. But he came back. Oh, yeah, he came back and they got killed again. Yeah, by the big garden. Oh, he got stomped. That's right. Got squished. I mean, you say that, but I often feel like people who are chasing us know all sorts of things that I don't understand how they know.
01:23:20
Speaker
Barrick lives in that world where, as far as I know, there's some member of the Twelve sitting in a giant room in the floating tower above Korth with just a bunch of screens in front of him, watching Gerald's every move while he sleeps. He's the guy from the end of the matrix. Guy of the Truman Show. Oh, we went different places, but yes. Both guys with a bunch of screens. They're not both called the Architect, are they?
01:23:46
Speaker
He's definitely he calls himself that I don't remember what it's Ed Harris. Yeah, and here's his character better
Conclusion and Show Reflections
01:23:51
Speaker
than the matrix. It's also the architect Yeah, the matrix character is the architect. He definitely has a name in the treatment. Yeah, he has a name in the It's been a long time. It's French. It's vaguely French. We also missed a question from earlier in the day from cool asking it whether or not I actually forgot the ghost Tigers or just wanted to keep the encounters easier to manage Neither
01:24:13
Speaker
I know exactly, I have known exactly where the ghost tigers are, what has happened to them. So, yeah. And you know that if you kill the ghost tigers, like, there will be a riot, right? I, personally, there makes all sorts of narrative sense that they kill the ghost tigers. Right now they're Schrodinger's ghost tigers. They're in a box off screen somewhere. Why would you make the decision not to kill the ghost tigers?
01:24:38
Speaker
Any other decision seems really stupid, but just saying. For your safety. I looked it up. I said his name was vaguely French, but I was off by a country. His name's Christophe. Spelled the German way, so. Yeah. On double F? Well, just not an E at the end.
01:24:57
Speaker
anyway that's important anyway that's our show also that also that though yes there's nothing more to discuss that I don't remember anymore and we I feel like I personally have short changed this one and I apologize but that's I just I wasn't able to
01:25:16
Speaker
It was a scheduling thing. Normally, all the episodes are out before we record. Remember the first time we did a renewed and I had you send me the raws so I could listen to the whole thing. I probably listened to it like four or five times. This is back when I was driving a lot, though, for work before I started teaching again. This is back when I was invested and actually cared. Yeah, I'm just going to make gator crap. No, for some reason, I had to drive from Shawnee to Sulfur three times that week. And I just listened to it all the way there and back all three times. And then that's not important, but that's an hour drive for those of you who don't live in Central Oklahoma.
01:25:47
Speaker
Anyway, I'm Jeff. I'm Eric. And I'm Phillip. Thank you guys so much for listening. Bye.
01:25:55
Speaker
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01:26:24
Speaker
Bye-bye. Make sure you get all the plugs in. Corbin's up.