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Speaker: From a makeshift recording studio in Brooklyn, welcome to The Grocery Stick with Jessica and Francis. Shut the front door. That is not what we agreed upon. Francis and Jessica. Meh, ignore that.
Speaker: We're Brooklynites and friends. We're here to talk, laugh, commiserate, and argue about all things travel sports-related, kid-related, and plain old life-related. It's Francis and Jessica, or I quit.
Speaker: Ready for episode 56. That's a lot of episodes. 56. We're slowing down because every two weeks now, Summertime. Summertime. Keeping it going. and in the city.
Speaker: And before we get to some and really important issues of the time, like Taylor Swift's wedding. Dude, insane. Bananas. And I need your opinion. Your daughter's a Swifty, right? Yeah, and I love her. not i wouldn' I don't consider myself a Swifty, but I do really dig her. I'm going to ask about this.
Speaker: But before that, first first, we have to tick all the boxes. Okay. Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, still good. Yeah. Awesome. Did you, after four birds shit on you, did you buy the lottery ticket and did you win anything?
Speaker: No, I did not win anything. God damn it. It was just an exercise in futility. But you bought something. Yeah, but it fucking... yeah but it cost me money. Like four birds shit on me and I got bupkis. I'm going to try again. First bird shit on you. Good luck.
Speaker: Third one gives you back the luck. Fourth one takes it back. I got tomorrow. I'll give it a shot. Maybe. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's, Work in progress. Apparently, birds just like to shit on me. Money, money, work in progress. Okay.
Speaker: Take that off. Lottery ticket update from Jessica. We'll come back to that. I mean, honestly, there would have been signs already if I had won anything. Right? That's true. I mean, just saying. Like, I wouldn't really need to say anything. I'm calling from my private jet. I'm calling from my new house in Mykonos. I'll see you later. Okay. Fair. You never know. Hey, some people...
Speaker: I didn't want to be that presumptuous. Some people win the money win the money like Warren Buffett and they just still the normal selves. Yeah, I'd still be normal, just probably not here normal. At the very least, I'd be on a vacation.
Speaker: All right. All right. um No Kalshi updates except for you and me getting fucked by Mom Dunny. I withdrew. I'm done. What? I withdrew. You did? Okay. Close me again. I'm closing my account. Fuck this thing. Eric saw it and he was like, who the fuck is doing Kalshi? And was like,
Speaker: be I did it He's like, why? I was like, because I needed to try it I won one. I lost one. Yeah, i won one. I lost one. And then I left. I treated it the same way as I treat every gambling situation I've ever been I think you got to tell him with all new technology, you got to try it once and understand it.
Speaker: And if you don't like it, you just close it. It's okay. My family. Head in the sand. No, no. Sam's like, you know, he's got like draft kings or whatever bullshit he does We don't need, we don't need the family gambling. he having killing We don't need that. It's not gambling. Just a couple of bucks. I'm the one with the self-control. I'm the one who's like, I'm able to throw it yeah to the side and be like, nope, done.
Speaker: Sure. Okay. You tried it. Yeah, I did. And it's fine. It's fine for others. All right. Well, thank you for the referral fee. Oh, yeah. No problem. um Something funny happened this morning on the way to coffee.
Speaker: Okay. And groceries. Funny haha or funny heehh? Oh, something between. Okay.
Speaker: I saw this kid, young kid. Race does not matter. Okay. Was walking. Look like a nice guy. Look like a perfectly normal nice guy in shorts.
Speaker: Teenager. ah 20s probably. Young but young. Okay.
Speaker: Ankle monitor. Yeah. I was like, whoa, whoa, hang on a second here. You look totally harmless. I don't know what the crime is. But then I was like, what crime would you have to commit?
Speaker: John Wayne Gacy looked pretty harmless too. Fair. to to To be arrested... get an ankle monitor. So not serious enough that you have to be jailed while you're waiting for your court sentence, but serious enough that you have to wear this thing out and about. Well, serious enough that they think he's a flight risk. Right.
Speaker: Exactly. And so anyways, he walked up and down Smith Street. It's probably some kind of assault or something. i like, motherfucker. i was like, should I ask this kid? He looks like a nice kid. Hey, dude, what'd you do? Yeah. I think if you see the ankle bracelet, you don't.
Speaker: If you see the monitor, you don't ask. Well, listen, Kudos to him. Because if I had the ankle monitor, I'd be wearing long pants and trying to hide it. Like some sweatpants. I wouldn't be wearing it out with shorts out in the open. Like, hey, check me out.
Speaker: I'd at least cover it with a sock. So that it would be just a lot less obvious. too big. No, you can't. That thing's fucking massive. And for good reason. Yeah. um Like with those wheel clamps when you park. Oh, that's so funny. I was like, then i was like, wait a second. If you have a monitor, aren't you allowed, aren't you like confined your home? You're allowed out? No, you have a mile, ah something radius around your home that you're allowed. And once you, if you step over that that boundary, the alarm goes off. But I mean, you can step over it by a foot and the alarm will go off. right Normally, i mean, for people who are not, um,
Speaker: not at risk for other, at to other people, like just the public at large. yeah Right. I mean, ah someone who's at risk to the public at large wouldn't have an ankle bracelet anyway. Right. Right. But an ankle bracelet, ankle monitor. But, um, you know, yeah, they give, they give a block radius. Sometimes they get like a mile.
Speaker: You know, like if they live in a place and the store's within a mile, they can get a mile radius. So I was tempted to ask, I didn't. Yeah, I think I was wise.
Speaker: i wouldn't ask. First time I've seen one. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I wouldn't ask. Okay. Good note. Thank you, Jessica. You're welcome.
Speaker: All right. Okay. Okay. I mean, but you do you. I'm not here to tell you what to do. so you do you. I'll stick to just tipping for other people on their credit card. I wouldn't ask. You might ask.
Speaker: um Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait. So that's the most important thing that happened of the July 4th weekend. Besides the downpour rain all the time long? Besides the massive storm that pushed all the fireworks earlier than expected. Weird, right?
Speaker: ah Which also screwed up my dog walks. because Oh, yes. I mean, luckily, I discovered that neither of them are phased by fireworks. Oh, that's good. Yes. No jumpy dogs. No, no, nobody. Everybody was a okay. prince too because Yeah.
Speaker: You think he's got some trauma, but he's got the Prozac. Yeah. But I mean, even if he did have trauma, apparently it's not gun trauma. So, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Most important question that's been bugging me all week. I was just dying for this recording. So I can ask you. Yeah.
Speaker: Is. Yeah. I'm actually surprised you didn't ask me before. Well, I'm keeping it in for this podcast. Okay. with be All natural response. Okay. Okay. For me as a non Swifty. Yeah. But I know who she is and obviously enjoy her music. Right. Yeah.
Speaker: And knowing her background, like, okay. My view of Taylor Swift, romantic, right. That's a heartbreak songs.
Speaker: Southern gal. Right. Okay. Probably good Christian upbringing. seems to be a very understated individual. In ways.
Speaker: Right? In some ways. mean, she's not Kardashians. Look at me, look at me, look at me. Yeah. Take pictures, blah, blah, blah. But obviously as famous as she is, she can't avoid it. But like, you know, she's not showy. Right. In that sense, right? Okay. And then, okay, she's got Travis Kelty. Blah, blah, blah, blah. So so when they announced, oh my God, she's shutting down New York City and Madison Square Garden, July 4th wedding, i was like, that's got to be a decoy. There's no fucking way. That's got to be a decoy. People show up. They get whisked away to Westchester to some, like, you know, Hudson Valley, beautiful place, no helicopters, romantic.
Speaker: Right. I come back from my come back from Long Island and go, what the fuck? It happened. And I didn't follow anything. She really got married. mads gra ah Are you mad? I couldn't think of a less romantic place on the planet. But did you see what she built inside?
Speaker: I heard some castle shit, right? Oh, the it was gorgeous. I know, but still. its but But think about it. What the fuck? Think about it this way, right? Knowing what you know about her. Yes.
Speaker: Right? Yes. Do you think that there would be any other venue that you know of? yeah Obviously, you don't know all of them because we're not party planners, right? Yes, yes, yes. Is there another venue that you can think of yes that would be able to accommodate over a thousand people, number one, and number two have what she, how do I say this, have available or have enough space available for her to put her entire wedding vision into life? Ah, okay.
Speaker: So the what whatever transpired, I agree with you. You would need that kind of a venue. right but here's But that's my thing. I go back to if she's a romantic,
Speaker: And a private person and not show we like the Kardashians. Yeah. As the antithesis of her personality. Right. It's like to me, it's like it's the George Clooney, Lake Como, private estate, Europe.
Speaker: Right. and you don't need a thousand. but She doesn't have a thousand friends. But that ran one thing, one step further. Yeah. Do you know about Elizabeth Taylor? I mean, no. Do you know that Elizabeth Taylor got married at MSG? I didn't know that. So she. No shit. Yeah. So she planned. That's the copy? She planned a party. I think it was part of an homage in some way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But Elizabeth Taylor had planned a party at MSG.
Speaker: Okay. There are photos. If you look it up. I mean, I can find it, I'm sure. Yeah. um Planned a party at MSG where she invited many, many, many people. And it turned out that it was a guise for her wedding.
Speaker: Yep. And so she got married at Madison Square Garden. Okay. In a similar fashion. I'm sure it was not, I'm going to recreate this other world, you know, in the middle of MSG. Although who the hell knows? Right. Maybe it was. I don't know. yeah But I feel like that is part of the part of the homage to why.
Speaker: Okay, sure. I can see that. I just, yeah I feel like there's a connection there that I, was romantic. I would have thought hundred people max at her fucking wedding. You could do a big party. Like, you know, some people, some couples, they do look, it's family only. Yeah. And i do right then we'll do a big ass party because there's a celebrity, but there's a rumor that that's actually what happened because all oh i see people think that they got married on 062626.
Speaker: Got it. 62626. People think they got married on June 26th.
Speaker: And then did this and had Adam Sandler officiate this wedding because he's not a religious pundit. But people are saying that they think that they got married. I hope so. Previously. I hope so. I doubt it only because At some time it'll come out, I'm sure. Right. Because the thing is like, nobody, I don't care how many NDAs you sign, somebody fucking knows something and is going to leak shit out that it happened. But if they got married on that date in June, it could have just literally been his family and her family, like closest family.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. And capped at that. And and then nobody would say anything. That's not true because you know why? Because it was like when Tiger Woods, people got surprised. oh Tiger Woods got busted for cheating on his wife. like Dude, Tiger Woods can't walk down the street without picking his nose and and six million pictures showing up. yeah you you You can't be Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey and walk down any street and have nobody notice. But you know you don't know that they didn't do it in that beautiful backyard that they have at their house you know with ah with like ah her childhood priest or his childhood priest. There are a lot of variables there that- They're tailing her private jet.
Speaker: like It's all public information. They're tailing her cars. Yeah. can't fucking do anything today with technology. Yeah. They cannot walk anywhere. Even if you got to a place that had no paparazzi, for example, right? Yeah. most Smallest little shit town somewhere.
Speaker: Recognizable. only takes an hour before someone puts on Instagram, I swear to God, I just saw Taylor Swift yeah walk down the street with yeah Travis Kelsey. I mean, you know, they're giants. You can't fucking miss them, right? Right. Right. They're not small. Okay.
Speaker: Okay. So back to the original question. Okay. So you're not disappointed. No. Okay. No. But there was no way I was going anywhere near that shit. No, of course. was just like, I just thought, from you know, again, from my basic knowledge of her, I can see Travis Kelsey doing that because they're fucking NFL weirdos. Yeah. But I mean, and the family. But like, I just thought that for her as the hopeless romantic blah, blah, blah. I think she was able to create her hopeless romantic fantasy. Yeah. Fair enough.
Speaker: Fair mean, she's got this beautiful estate in yeah Rhode Island yeah yeah where people, you know, were, you know, projecting that that's where it would have been. I mean, it's literally right on the ocean. It's it's yeah gorgeous. I've driven past it in westerly. It's just I mean, it's huge. It's beautiful.
Speaker: And you know what? It probably would have been fine. And it's great. I mean, she gave $26 million dollars to various New york charities. That's fine. Well, no, $26 million dollars to many charities, a couple that were in New York. Oh, I see. Okay. And again, my thing is like, I don't understand why celebrities need need the recognition. Fucking give money.
Speaker: she But she gives money anonymously all the time. that's I've heard that, but it's not anonymous because if it was anonymous, we wouldn't know about it. Well, no, I mean, my point is, is that she's not calling someone and saying, I made a donation or I want to make a donation. Like she, her reputation for scrolling through GoFundMe pages yeah as like a pastime to just drop like $5,000, $10,000 for causes. She's does it for a lot of sick kids yep whose families do GoFundMe for them. And then generally if they write back to her, sometimes she goes and visits and Sure. like She's very generous in a lot of ways.
Speaker: Listen, I'm not comparing myself to her clearly. I go to donors.org school children and I donate. Yeah. That's a nice project. but but but but but but but but but but They, and they send a thank you card. They're allowed to know who you are. They send it through the system. um And that's, and that's great. and yeah And I'm like, I do it because kids are important.
Speaker: Education is important. There's a lot of poor kids in New York city. There are, I don't need fucking an ounce of recognition. I do because I want to do it. If I do it for the recognition. So anyway, so my thing is just like, Even the fact that we know she's done it anonymously. like Well, her friend, her friend, to do it her friend exposed her though. Right.
Speaker: It wasn't like, you know, they trying to go find me yeah, it wasn't like a GoFundMe recipient was like, oh my God. yeah i because I feel like there are anonymous, you know, donations that she does make on these posts. Of course. You know, unless it's like I said, a sick child. Well, but the 26 million, you know what? yeah Well, but I don't, i don't know.
Speaker: I mean, yeah, why not? They instead, no gifts for the wedding. And instead they gifted $26 million dollars to different charities. Most of them food banks, by the way. and Yeah. um Don't, no gifts, please. And for celebrities, what are you going to, right. is it bad like Even if you wanted to bring a gift, what would you give yeah know Kelsey and Swift right as a couple? Right.
Speaker: that they don't already have or could buy themselves. Right. and and they yeah So you say the wedding, of please, no gifts. And like, we you know what? You and I used to this kids, right? When the kids had birthday parties, no gifts. Right.
Speaker: But please donate to this charity. Yeah. Instead. yeah Yeah. Consider it. But you didn't. wait I didn't check that people gave money Oh, i didn't either. didn't ask for proof. I know. But that's my point. So like, who does that? You don't do it. People do that?
Speaker: No, but it's like, it's like people who like, I mean, it's a curb, it's a curb episode, like where, you you know, people check prices of the the gifts. Like, what the fuck? Just like, who cares? It's kind of funny. that And so my thing with the celebrities and even Taylor Swift is like, and it's not her, it's her press people and her fucking publicist and all that bullshit was like, if she gave 26 million away,
Speaker: yeah away She gives 26 million away. Yeah. Nobody fucking needs to know about it. Just give it away. Right. But OK, so just one quick tie in here. Yeah. Why 26? Well, don't know. 626, 26, right? Right. That's what I think. Right? So there's like this. She does this all the time, like in her music and her concerts and all of her shit. Like she does these like Easter egg kind of thing. Right. So 26, probably because they got married on the 26th. You know, her favorite number is 13. His number 87. It equals Like there's a lot of like...
Speaker: weird of Swifty shit that comes across my for you pages. She could have donated to my kidney stone surgery on 62626. That would have been nice. She could have. ah She could have. up a brother wrote I know, right? There you go.
Speaker: There you go. Okay, but okay. No, no, no. So as a Swifty, you were not offended that she was at MSG. No, I don't care. Cool. All right. It didn't affect me. How does it mal-affect me? No, no, no. I think as a fan base, no as a fan base, and you're looking for consistency of a person, I think it's off-brand. But I'm not i'm not i'm not a Swifty, so I don't know. I think as an outsider, it's off-brand MSG. I don't think so. Thousand people. I don't think so. and And there's now rumors going around that she's doing a billion-dollar residency. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: right now. it And the speculation is that it will be at MSG just like Harry did. Harry Styles did. Yeah. Like Joel did. Right. Right. Like all these people are doing residencies. They're banking a lot of money so that they can take some time and not.
Speaker: Yeah. Because the majority of their money comes from performing. She's got so much material. So many songs in her library. Yeah. from So all the last albums that, Like Celine Dion. You don't have to freaking create new music. you know She's got a huge catalog of work, a huge body of work.
Speaker: Do you think that entertainers like that The residency, my thing is look, she's got more money than what she knows what to do with, right? Yeah. Okay, already. So the residency is not changing your life.
Speaker: No, but the speculation is that it's she's doing it in preparation preparation for having a family. Right. That's the speculation. like so But as entertainers, their thing is like, regardless of the money, they just need to be, even if you're Taylor Swift, and I think she's very understated, you still have some semblance of I need to be the center of attention and that's why i perform. Oh, for real. Yeah, that's real. Totally. can't Why perform if you don't need the attention? Yeah, that's totally real.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like, it's, you know, it's like, what is it? What's the the brain chemical that you get? Dopamine. Is it dopamine? yes Yeah. So dopamine, right? I mean, the dopamine hit. Yeah.
Speaker: You know, the excitement, the exhilaration. But hard work, Like it's crack. Yeah, it is. It's very hard work. do you know she used to She used to run on the treadmill for like three hours singing the entire show for her heiress tour because... i mean, it is You have to be an athlete to do that, to do her concert. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Travis Kelsey kept on touting her as like the consummate athlete because she was able to sing every song running on a treadmill. So my buddy was just a kid, Dan, like he played college tennis, I believe, right? Yeah. But his wife, who's a principal dancer at ABT, and he was like, dude,
Speaker: yeah no ballet ballerinas how much they work out and actually i couldn't i'm an athlete i could never freaking do what she does yeah so i believe it i totally listen yeah the funny thing is like you've seen so many times like the women performers like women singers artists yeah they're like beyonce whatever else it's fucking ridiculous what they have to do yeah and then like then you have what's his face what's his face uh Ed. Ed Sheeran, who just stands there with a guitar. Who fucking stands there with a guitar and a little electronic device where he just loops on his foot. Yeah.
Speaker: And he does the same amount of money, probably more or less, just standing there by himself. And whereas the women have to freaking like put on a show. Yeah. That's a little unfair. Well, it's it's the sexism.
Speaker: ah Totally. I mean, you know, like Jack Johnson, same thing. Stan's out with a guitar. Right. You know, fucking Ray LaMontagne. We went to go see Ray LaMontagne once. Okay. And like, you know, I knew like two songs. I was like, but I'm very open minded when I go to see live music. I'm always like, sure. you know, maybe it'll be something that I dig. No problem.
Speaker: Rarely ever have I gone to a show where I'm not a super fan and I've hated it. Yeah. But holy shit, did I hate seeing Ray Lamontagne. Hated it. Boring as shit. Oh, give me my money back. It was like fucking watching it paint dry. i was just like, oh, my God, i don't love your music. But even worse, you're not even entertaining me.
Speaker: Like you're not doing anything. Yes, exactly. For the ah for that kind of money, too. Oh, God, it was horrific. I couldn't wait to leave. You pay, let's say you bit the bought the best seats, right, at then at a Broadway show.
Speaker: which by the way are not punanarddomas Which, by the way, are not the front row. They're not the floor seats. Don't ever sit in those seats. Actually, the first row of the balcony is probably the best seat, right? yeah Down at at the angle. Totally. Or or the you know you can sit in the orchestra, but you need to sit past M or O. You have to sit further in the back where there's a slight elevation. But you think about, okay, you spend $250, let's say, and this person is doing eight performances a week, right?
Speaker: Live. Yeah. Fucking unbelievable. Like yeah unbelievable talent, if you ask me, right? in In a Broadway show or an opera or something like that, right? And then you these fuckers. on I know.
Speaker: Who throw up and just like swear. I went to a, many, many years ago, a Foo Fighters concert. Okay. Not because I wanted to go, because my client wanted to go. Yeah. And we go and he was really into it. He was up there. He was singing. didn't even know I was there. That's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker: and was like sitting there another on the and and actually you know given uh old the food fighters this is probably like 15 years ago oh wow already how old they were already yeah yeah yeah right people were bringing kids like that was the weird part i was like um well that happens a lot now like and the parents bring their kids yeah seven eight nine ten year old kids But he's like swearing every other sentence, is every other words, fucking this and fucking that. And they've got into the microphone. Like, this is not a concert.
Speaker: but Yeah. Okay. Whatever. No judging. Do what you want to do for your family? Um, but again, I was like, this guy's getting paid like 400 bucks a seat for this shit.
Speaker: um ah Yeah. Well, so Sam and i we went to go see Billy Strings at Prudential. Yeah. You know, Eric bought tickets. Yeah. You know, he was supposed to go. i was supposed to go with him. Something happened. I don't remember what it was, but he wasn't able to go. He wasn't in town. Okay.
Speaker: And so I took, Sam, we had four tickets. Four tickets. I tried to get Ruthie because all four of us were supposed to go. I tried to get her to go. she didn't want to This one didn't want to go, whatever. And so Sam and I go.
Speaker: And, you know, he's like the new, like, Grateful Dead Messiah. Right. But he's an incredible guitar player. Like I've watched his YouTube videos. Yeah. Close up of his hands. I mean, he's just unbelievable as as a good musician. He's unreal. We go to the show. We get to our seats. It's pretty good. They're off to the side.
Speaker: Clear view of the stage. yeah We're super excited to be there. Show starts. No screens. ah It's literally them playing holy fuck on stage in a huge arena.
Speaker: Oh my God. And I can't see shit. Fucking kill me now. And all I have are all of these people around me drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dancing and flailing and, you know, it becomes like jam sessions, which is one of the things that I personally do not like. Yeah. I don't like a jam band.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a beginning and an end to a song. Yeah. I don't want it to go on for 25 minutes. Yeah. I know. Jesus. I don't want it to hit, you know, like seven different registers.
Speaker: just want the song. It doesn't have to be exactly as recorded. It's okay. You know, take some artistic license, be yourself, whatever. But the jam band thing is so not my deal. Like I hate fish.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah. You know, P-H-I-S-H, like hate fish. Yeah, yeah. And so we're at the Billy Strings show. And it's got this real my dead fish feel to it. That's like small club, hundred people kind of bullshit.
Speaker: Not in a freaking arena. yeah It was and I. We left. so case i Yeah. laugh If you think about it. at At a certain point, he and I, we got up, we walked. We went walking around to go see the merch. i was I'm not going to get any merch. It's all tie-dyed. i don't really wear tie-dyed. You know, it's very dead fish thing.
Speaker: And at a certain point, I just looked at him. I was like, any chance you want to go? And he looked at me. it was like, you couldn't have told me, you know, soon enough. And i was like, all right. And so we left. um That's like me watching Eyes Wide Shut.
Speaker: Oh, God, I hate that movie. That's the only movie in the history. And I've seen some bad movies. That is the only movie in history where I got up halfway and ago but again, and then we got to go. This is so bad. i need to, we need to go. I go back to how I'm not really a Kubrick fan.
Speaker: Yeah. Like I like the shining. Right. But I also, you know, the shining is based on a book that I happen to love. It's just like, you know, there's a correlation there that all the other, you know, art pieces don't really match, but it was just like,
Speaker: But, okay. So then, okay, wait. So wait so go back to concerts. Yeah. Outside of the ladies who have always, female artists have always had to put on a show. Yeah, they always work harder and they always get paid less.
Speaker: It's true. The only people ahead of their time is U2. Who I also don't really like. Because they, I know, but their shows, they've been doing the show. Yeah. Since the beginning of time. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker: Real show. Right. Right? Not some bullshit stand there and fucking like play a couple songs. And then like collect the money and run. Yeah. But you know what I've also realized recently? Like I realized that music's political. But when I go and I pay to see a show, i don't want your politics. I don't want politics. want your music. And if there's politics in your music, then that's fine. I've elected to go...
Speaker: Yeah. You know, collect that message in in the music. Sure. But I don't want you pontificating to me on stage about your political stance and what you're No, you too. Does it? i mean, yeah. Bono does it. Of course. i know like At the concerts? Yeah. There was a lot of it at i didn't know that at Solid Sound.
Speaker: Okay. You know, and and the thing is, is like, I know what I'm signing up for when I go see Wilco. I like Wilco. Yeah. Right. yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. For the most part, like I know what I'm signing up for. They're uber liberal. I mean, they're not, you know, insane. i don't think ish.
Speaker: But, you know, like I was rolling through Solid Sound and I mean, the T-shirts were just like, oh, my God, I want to stab myself in the fucking eye. Right. Yeah. But so, yeah. But it' so like and it goes for like the anti-ice, anti-Trump. It also is like the and I don't want to hear about anti-Mom Donnie or pro-Mom Donnie either. Yeah. You know, there was one band that we were looking forward to and we go around the corner and we walk in because they started playing. We were going to get food, which was in the back area of where that stage was and just yeah like stay in the back.
Speaker: and we like come around the curve, and there's a huge Palestinian flag yeah projected on the... on the show But the smaller bands can't help themselves, because the only way they get fans is through that bullshit. I know, but I was just like, I don't want your political shit. Like I don't even i' like i said I don't care what it is. yeah I don't care what it is. I am here for a weekend and I'm here without my, without my kids. yeah I'm here like with a couple of friends. I want to have a good time and I don't, I want to hear the music. Honestly, only go to find that in the pop world because the pop world is just there to make money. Yeah. For the most part, there are pop artists who have done this also since like 2000, you know, 2023, like Melanie Martinez is one of them who, you know, i ended up going to see at MSG. Right. That's what I said too. But I, But I knew who she was because my daughter knew who she was and listened to her. Right. And so she comes to MSG and I don't even understand how she sells out MSG, but she does huge production.
Speaker: And like we go to the show and somewhere in the show, she's got two so vertical screens on either side. Yeah. And during one of her songs, which was like it had some kind of school reference, you know, like an elementary school reference. Like she's a very weird songwriter.
Speaker: I digress. the The tickets were not expensive. It was not that big a deal. Sure, sure, sure. But like she's got like all of this like shit showing up with a, you know, like like oppression, colonialism, apartheid, like school. Right. This is what you're learning in school. And at the end of the show, like I i tolerate it throughout the show because like.
Speaker: It seems like my daughter is none the wiser of it, right? She's not looking at the screen. She's watching the artist artist. And at the end of the show, she and her dancers unfurl a Palestinian flag. And I just was like, I'm done.
Speaker: that' like I'm just done. Not a single song, by the way, of hers is politically based. Not one. She's got zero political messages in her music. From what I can decipher. Are your kids aligned with you politically?
Speaker: You think? Yeah, I do. Mostly. Okay. I do. Mostly. And not because I've convinced them to be, but because of what I think their algorithm starts to show them online. Right. That I think so. And, and, you know, i think, I think that they differ from some of their friends. You know, I think that my son, my son's political alignment and his friend's political alignments, I think match pretty well because of hockey.
Speaker: Yeah. Well, I think it's hockey. I also think of it's where they are raised. Like he's got a handful of friends on Staten Island. He's got a handful of friends in South Brooklyn. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. You know, he's got friends in Manhattan who, you know, teeter on the edge of both things. You know, I think that he kind of teeters a little bit on the edge, leans definitively towards one side. Well, would argue that most of us are centrists. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit to the left and stuff, a little bit to the right and other Yeah. But we're centrist. We don't really hang out anybody who's like extremely left or right. No. And I think that I think that both of my kids kind of sit in there. I think that my daughter has a lot of friends who do actually lean very far left. Oh, yeah, I can see that. Very, very far left. It's also like she also thinks they're bananas.
Speaker: No, no, no. I know. But part it also is like, there are a lot of kids there who think it's cool. Right. To be lefty. Yes. And they don't fucking believe it. Well, they're limousine liberals. Well, that's it. You know, they're, they're alignment. I'm a lefty.
Speaker: Yeah. But I'm not protesting. I'm not doing all other bullshit. I'm just like, yeah, yeah. Lefty. Right. Because it's cool. Well, there was a walkout right at school for, you know, like anti-ice or whatever. okay And she wanted to go. And I was just like, no, you can't go. I was like, you can't go. She's like, why not? It's, you know, I'm i'm exercising my right to protest and this and that everything else. And I said, you have not exercised the right to leave school.
Speaker: That's right. This has nothing to do with the political message. That's right. You know what? These fucking people, they can do protests on the You do that when you're an adult. Or after school. No, but you know what? You want school people, you want school-aged people to participate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't do it during the school day.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly. That's the way I see it. That's the way I see it. You know, like there was a walkout once when ah my son was in middle school. No yeah elementary school. Yeah.
Speaker: And at the time I was like, sure, let's go. And then I instantly regretted it. I was like, what am I doing here with him? I think those those kind of. Yeah. Anyways, I think those kind of walkouts and i might listen. But that was the litmus test Whatever repercussions there may or may not be.
Speaker: It does need to be when you are an adult and you can own it. Right. When you're a child in a school, you're just going to do whatever your teacher or whoever you like does it. yeah And then if there are repercussions, you have no fucking idea. You don't have the strategic mind. That's right. You know, to think like this could i Right. Like, like, like during BLM when those young lawyers like burn the police car and now you're being this bar that you fucking. Yeah. How stupid are you? do that How stupid are you? So that's the difference. Right. And I've said this to a lot of people as of late, but that's the difference between using your thinking brain and your emotional brain. yeah Use your thinking brain.
Speaker: Your emotional brain yeah should not be on 100 percent of the time. Yeah. I don't care if people say that I'm insensitive or, you know, discompassionate or whatever. firmly believe that you cannot have your emotional brain on 100 percent of the time, because if you do, it always overrides the thinking brain. think it's like if you're going to be 25 in law school and do something that stupid. You deserve it. You own it. Yeah. Like you got to own it.
Speaker: Yeah. you well You know, and so it' too bad for you. You don't even need to own it, but you certainly deserve it. Yeah. Yeah. So, right whereas if you're like 16 year old kid and doing it, I'm well, hang on a second. People are young and dumb.
Speaker: Yeah. Hang on. You do not know what you're getting yourself into. And you've not thought this through carefully. Okay. Kind of thing. Which brings me to my next point. Yeah. As I was walking down the street one day, I had this boss a long time ago that he comes from a family of like seven children. That's a lot.
Speaker: Yeah. He's probably 10 years older than me. So a little older. where does Do you know where he sits in the seven kid lineup? Oh, just curious.
Speaker: I don't know for sure. ok i have a feeling after meeting some of his siblings that he's like third or fourth. OK. OK. And I have no idea why that mattered to me, but it did. Hey, for context. yeah Anyways, I sat next to him for a couple of years.
Speaker: Like him a lot. Good guy. good yeah a Military guy. and then got into brokerage and the whole bit. like Really like salt of the earth. Grew up in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh?
Speaker: Pittsburgh. Or Philly. Anyways. Pennsylvania. yeah Good core values. um And he called his... family every day.
Speaker: facebook Even if it was for 10 seconds. Okay. Like he spoke to his family every day. That's amazing. Right? Yeah. Oh man, it's amazing. And I'm like, fuck, I feel so bad. i barely talked to my it's Yeah. these like WhatsApp messages from my mom like, do you remember?
Speaker: you remember? I'm like, shit. And then my brother, my brother, my my brother is a good older brother. Every Sunday, like one hour FaceTime with my parents. Yeah. And the kids and everything. It's interesting because my cousins do that too on Sundays. Yeah. So my question was, and you know, we come from a different time, like the relationship you and, oh, maybe, I don't know. what I will not speak for you. But for me, it was more like parents, they're there, they go to work, they put food on the table. You have family dinner every night at 6 p.m., 7 p.m., whatever else it is. Yeah. you sat there. But...
Speaker: They didn't go to games. They didn't drive me to games. Nope. Like, you're on your own. Yeah. Latchkey kid, right? Yeah. she Very much. Well, I kind of bullshit, right? I mean, not the entire time I was growing up, but certainly once I hit, like, middle school, high school. Okay. Right. And so, like, yeah, yeah from middle school, high Yeah. Like, when I was in elementary school, they drove me. Definitely didn't see them.
Speaker: Like, okay. Okay. So maybe that's why the byproduct is I don't really them and miss them because they're not really in my life. yeah Although I love them dearly and I do feel guilty. um Now that we're different generation and we have been driving our kids everywhere, we do talk to them every freaking day. Oh spend a lot of time with them actually.
Speaker: Do you think, or okay, there's come thing two questions. First of all, do you think when they're adults, they will call you every day? And then second, Do you even want them to call you every day when they're out of college and in the working world and living their own lives? Okay.
Speaker: Do you have that expectation? So no, I don't. I don't have expectations. Yeah. I hope. Yeah. I hope that the foundation of our relationships over all of these years would prompt them to want to talk to me.
Speaker: yeah yeah We'll start there. i hope you are listening. Your kids listen to the podcast. i don't I don't know if they listen or not, but it's okay. One day they'll unearth this. It might be too late by then, but one day it'll be unearthed. Yeah. um So, you know, my hope is that the foundation of our relationship is strong enough and firm enough that they would want to be in contact with me with more frequency. Yeah. um You know, where I stand right now, um you know, as older kids, as teenagers, even. Right. Yeah.
Speaker: They are very frequently in touch with me. Yeah. um You know, and and it's not, it feel like it's not something that I solicit when they leave. You know, my younger my younger one, I'll say to her, you know, be in touch because she's younger. she you know She's out and about on her own. Be in touch. Don't be out of touch. You know, if you change locations, just let me know.
Speaker: if you need a ride, let me know. if you need to take an Uber, just let me know. Don't do anything. yeah, yeah. Don't do anything without being in touch. Right. That's a thing for me with her. Yeah.
Speaker: With him, you know, i don't have those hard and fast rules anymore. um But I feel like the training has been so ingrained. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: That he doesn't abandon those ideals. It's, you know I'm going here. This is what I'm doing. Okay. is Is there any reason that I cannot do this is what I get frequently. Okay. And I'll say things like, have you looked at the calendar? Have you looked at the family calendar? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. you get right And he'll say, yes, I don't see anything. Please check and make sure. Okay, no problem. Okay. I feel, you know, my older one will call me just to talk to me when driving in the car long distances. oh how nice.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. When something cool happens, he'll call me. If you see something cool, he'll call me. You know, you know, he'll he'll leave the house and have an hour and a half drive and 45 minutes in my phone rings and I'm going, hey, what's going on? You're right. He goes, yeah, great. What's going on? What are you up to?
Speaker: And I'm just kind like, huh? That's very nice. yeah My younger one, my younger one frequently tells people that, you know, foundationally I'm her best friend. Wow. Good on you, mom. Yeah, I mean, maybe I've been too soft and that's why they like me so much. but but ultimately, maybe ultimately i think that they are who they are. And yeah even if I was you know really, really hard on them, I don't know that the results would have been different. I mean, i i'm not I'm not overly flexible.
Speaker: Yeah. um But I think that I have, in my adult life, made the commitment to parent them differently than I was parented. Well, how often often do you call your mom?
Speaker: So we used to call my mom a lot. Yeah. Check in, check in, check in, check in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think now I call her a few times a week. Oh, it's a lot. yeah Like twice a week, three times a week. But you got my mom's still here, though, like living locally. And she lives by herself. Yeah. Right. She's a widow. She lives by herself. I mean, you know, so the check in as the local child, the other one lives further away. Okay, well, hang on a second.
Speaker: Think back for a minute. Okay, so let's look. Forget about now. Think about when you were 30. Yeah. 25. twenty five Yeah. How often did you call your parents back then?
Speaker: Okay, so... ah ah At that age, you think your parents are invincible to live forever. You never, you're not worried about their safety. Yeah. You know, but my, you know, like I said, you know, they had each other.
Speaker: yeah yeah Yeah. So I don't think I checked in with as great a frequency. I think that when I probably checked in, it was probably twofold. Hey, how's it going? yeah Can I blah, blah, blah. Or do you blah, blah, blah. Right. Like some, like, yeah okay you know, something that I needed to answer or have answered. And Hey, while I'm here, let's have a visit. Like, wait,
Speaker: um But once my dad got sick. Yeah. Which incidentally started on my wedding, the day of my wedding. Okay. um You know, once he got, actually, that's a fucking lie because my mom got sick before my father got sick. And so when my mom was sick.
Speaker: Yeah. We had just moved back from Los Angeles. Yeah. Got it. To New York. Okay. And so when she got sick, yeah i was very much in touch and very much there. And then not long after she was feeling better, yeah my father got sick. And then my dad was sick for 18 months before he died. Okay.
Speaker: And so during that time... I was present and in touch a ton. Okay, okay, okay. And then after he died, i was very present and in touch a ton because my mom was by herself.
Speaker: o um Got it. So I would argue that for a very long stint in between, I showed up with great frequency. Yeah. And then when my kids were young, i talked to my mom pretty frequently. Yeah.
Speaker: And now that they're teenagers, probably less frequently. Okay. Well, aren't you a good daughter and mom? I try. You know, I have a lot less tolerance right now when I when i make those calls, though.
Speaker: Yeah. Tolerance. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, i don't know if she listens to the podcast or not, so I might be outing her. But the truth is, is that she's been told that she needs hearing aids and her vanity is standing in the way and she won't get them.
Speaker: And so i feel like a modicum of frustration because like the hearing. But you know what the answer is to that nowadays. Foster AirPods. I know I i tried.
Speaker: My dad wears them now. Yeah, the ones that amplify the hearing. They're just AirPods 3, AirPods Pro 3, whatever it is. yeah they have They're rated for for as hearing aids. Yeah, I kind of told her that.
Speaker: but Because he's wearing them anyways to listen to music or whatever. right Well, I just feel like i feel like it would change her life. You know, she also has tinnitus. So she's got like that instant ringing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: um I hear you. Do you? Do you hear me? My dad's deaf because of all those years in the military and shooting guns without fucking earplugs. Yeah. So he needs to he needs to put them on. Otherwise, he's like doing the old man like yeah nodding all the time. Nodding. He's like, Dad, I just told you to kill yourself. You're like, yes, great. Come on.
Speaker: Like, you can't do that. You need to hear it's okay at your age to tell people, I'm sorry didn't hear that. And they'll say it again. No one's going to get mad. You can't do nodding shit because you're being polite. Yeah, it's a very strange helplessness, though, to not fulfill those simple needs. Yeah, sure. And so, you know, I get a little bit antsy. Okay, but your parents have always lived near you locally.
Speaker: Yeah, except for when I lived in L.A., when I lived in California. because I've sort of lived away from my parents since 17, 16, 17. since seventeen sixteen seventeen They've never been in the same country kind thing. Yeah. I mean, in retrospect, you know, if I were to go back and have the opportunity to do it again, I would I would do it very differently.
Speaker: Yeah. I wouldn't have stayed local. But then I would have ended up bringing them to like wherever I was at that point. Which. OK, so for the most part. Shoulda, woulda, coulda, whatever.
Speaker: Sure. But you're close to your kids. And for the most part, you're thinking they probably still call you all the time. Yeah. Even when they get older. Yeah. Right. Okay. I'm thinking, I mean, you know what, something could happen and they can, you know, totally be like, go fuck yourself. I'm done with you.
Speaker: yeah like who knows? I'm sort of oblivious to it in the sense that and this is this is like whatever the love language stuff, right? Some people want, you got to do stuff for them. Some people got to say it to them. Yeah.
Speaker: Some people like whatever, everyone's different. Right. Yes. my And my thing is like, I don't, i don't need to really hear from you. In a sense, especially with technology, i sort of know where you are all the time. Yeah.
Speaker: And I'm like the dad, right? So it's like, you got a problem? you I get this. is I love my kids all the time. Every text message or phone call. So daddy. i mean, OK. Yeah. It's like when they're like five years or like eight years old. and They start at giving us hypothetical. What? Just speak like spit it out.
Speaker: Right. Like, I don't have time for this shit. Right. I don't need this freaking don't like so daddy and then I got to, I'm pride out of you. If it's a problem, you just got to tell me. Right. Okay. So then I annoyed my daughter that day because she wanted to be nice and take me to surgery.
Speaker: Right. You mentioned that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, and I said, no, like, why would you get up at six o'clock in the morning to walk me to the freaking hospital only to get sent home or like fucking sit there for four hours and then bring me back when I can easily go back and forth. And again, for me, it was like, for me, it's more like, i don't need to trouble you when it's more serious. I will trouble you. But right now when it's like half serious, I got it. Right.
Speaker: Right. No problem. I can ask for help when I need it. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. anyway look i think inoit her because Which not everybody can, by the way. Correct. And then, like, it's like, you know, should we be were really nice a really nice Father's Day card and birthday card. So God bless her heart.
Speaker: And she's like, I really wish you would let me take care of you.
Speaker: like Oh, shit. And I was like, telling wife like oh, shit. Like she really wanted to go. And I feel bad. Like yeah she didn't need to go. And I know she really wanted to go. And I told her like, listen, when I'm older, there will be many times where need to call you. you have to come Yeah, that's coming. Don't you worry. Right. But like I was like, you know, oh, yeah, shit. I just didn't want to trouble her because she likes to sleep. And I didn't want to get about six o'clock in the morning and just fucking sit there all day waiting for me. But she's worried. bla blah yeah But, you know, the thing is, is you can always go into a surgery by yourself and just have them come and pick you up.
Speaker: Yeah. You know, so if she really wanted to like help and be there for you, yeah yeah yeah she could have just, come you know, she should have been like come to the hospital and just, you know, it'll be there at blah, blah, blah. And I'll probably be gone. Like,
Speaker: I don't need to know that you're like there sitting there waiting for me. Like that just, to me, it's more stress for me. Yeah. But my point is, is like, you could say, Hey, the surgery, I go in at this time. Surgery is supposed to be at this many hours. yeah It'll probably take me 30 minutes or 40 minutes in recovery, maybe. Right. So show up at, you know, let's say 12. Yeah. Right. Come at 1230 and you can walk me home.
Speaker: yeah Yeah, no, we had the conversation. and and and then end they And so then they called Elaine and they texted the kids and the kids come and get me even though I could go home. so That was fine. Yeah. cause that was good, right? ah Right. Well, they right they have that too, right? just It just never occurred to me because how my how bad a son I am to my parents. Yeah. i don't call that That my kids should...
Speaker: my wife different. She wants, you know, again, she doesn't spend much time with them. Maybe I spent too much time with them with soccer and hockey. Yeah, that could be. And she did not. So she obviously misses them a lot and she wants them to talk to her all the time. I'm like, I'm good. Yeah. Do they?
Speaker: Do they talk to her all the time? All the time. Yeah. Because much I think, I think. On their volition or because she insists? No, no, no. I don't like, just like your kids. I don't think, okay, I don't think too much in the sense like it's bad.
Speaker: I think too much in the sense of like, maybe when we were like yeah that age, the only, the only like welfare check was I came home for dinner. Yeah. But is right. yeah You couldn't find us. And so my thing that in this day and age, since I can find you on the phone with your location, because we're sharing locations as a family, that even less...
Speaker: so do I need to hear from you yeah in that regard? Right. And when I need to, I will call you were text you and blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm glad they they do it. and And to the point where like, i'm like, Hey, I guess in the modern age, I was like, Hey, like my son, sort with my son like he'll be on a trip in Europe and with all the buddies. And it's like, call home.
Speaker: Yeah. I have this good, blah, blah, blah. And i love you in front of all the boys and doesn't give a shit. Yeah. Doesn't get feel embarrassed. I'm like, Oh, Good for you, man. Yeah, totally. Yeah, my kids are the same way.
Speaker: Yeah, every time. Love you, mama. Love you, too. Yeah, right. I'll talk to you later. or be you know Be smart. Make good choices. Yeah. like Yeah, no, they're never, I mean, and they'll like give me a hug and a kiss in front of other people. like They're not weird.
Speaker: So, I mean, just look, look just different my dad's military. He was kind of mean. Not mean. It's a different culture. He was never mean. No, it's a different culture though. He just stern. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And serious, right? Yeah. Up until like, I want to say in my 30s, which would have made him late fifty s Right. He's 26 years old to me. So, and then all of a sudden it was like a bit of of humor.
Speaker: This is the best thing. Back then you had to send faxes. Ah, faxes. Our kids have no idea what that is. You had to send, before email, there was the fax machine. Oh my God, the fax machine.
Speaker: my parents were in Asia and I was, you know, in, you know, here. Yeah. And I get faxed. anyways, I remember one day like, My dad like made a joke and I call my mom like, is he okay?
Speaker: like That's the kind of, to give you an idea, is dad okay? Because I think he made a joke on a vax. I'm not quite sure. If it's not a joke, then there's I'm a concern. Right, right. If it is a joke, that's good, but I'm equally concerned. Is he okay? Because he's never gotten a joke in his life. That's funny. So, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. And then, of course, as you get older, you get softer and grandkids. and okay So now he's like, you know, warm and fuzzy. But like, yeah I just, but it's too late. I mean, like on the no offense. It's just too late for me.
Speaker: was like, I tried. tried taking you to hockey games and this kind of shit. You not interested. I get it. You're busy. You're immigrant father. You're busy working. You don't this shit.
Speaker: So cool. I'm not offended, but we also don't have that relationship. right Right. Do you really think everything's like it's too late? Totally. Yeah. No, because, you know, I could, of course I care, right?
Speaker: If I hear he's sick, I, you know, I will check in My brother told me, hey, I think dad went to, okay, yep, yep, yep, yep. Not that I don't care. I care. But I don't have that daily connection like we do with our kids of like always being in their lives and asking, hey, how's it going? How was the game today? Did you play well? Did you not play well? Like, you had a you had a final exam? how How do you think it went? You know, yeah there's not that much Right. Because they were not involved. It's not their fault. It's nobody's fault. You know, I think a lot of it's like product of the time.
Speaker: Yes. right Absolutely. Generationally, it's just different. So no right or wrong. But in the sense that if they are... thinking they want that from me now.
Speaker: i got news for you. Yeah, it's not happening because I listen. This is why I go to Vancouver for like four days and people say, why don't you stay longer?
Speaker: Why don't you stay with them? I'm like, because there are only so many times in a day i can sit down and ask, how are you doing?
Speaker: Right. comes to an abrupt end. Right. Because it's nothing because we don't again because we don't you don't have that depth to your relationship. don't understand what they do for work. And I'm and I'm happy for them. I told them like I'm happy for you to text your grandkids. Yeah.
Speaker: And have a conversation with them. I'm pretty sure they talk to them more than talk to me. Even though my mom I think my mom definitely wants talk to me more. I'm like sorry mom I just I got nothing to say. Yeah.
Speaker: Because we don't have that connection. Yeah. Yeah. have you ever like Have you ever had conversations with them about your family, like your extended family and what their experiences were growing up?
Speaker: What do you mean? Like, have you ever had conversations with them? Yeah, like when they were kids with their parents or what their grandparents were like. Oh, I already know. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's like even worse, even more disconnected than my relationship with them, right? I mean, it's just like old Asian parents from like the 50s after the war. What the fuck? I'm just curious. I'm like, there was like...
Speaker: I have like visions. Like do they talk about it or would are they like not willing to have those conversations? You know when you're kid, they talk all the time. Oh, you know, you I'm so nice to you when my, you know, grandma, grandpa. Not like that.
Speaker: No, that's not that's not a conversation. Great story where my mom used tell me that my mom was adopted. Oh. And only found her original parents recently, family recently. Oh. but But her adopted parents were so fucking, actually, her father her adopted father was nice. I remember like grandpa, we meet me visit Malaysia. The mom was like, the grandma, I was like fucking batshit crazy. Anyways, like when my mom would go get like an afterschool snack.
Speaker: Okay. For example, ah you're in Asia. So it's like noodles like to go in a bag, right? Yeah. My mom would have to bring it home for my grandmother to eat half first.
Speaker: Okay. Before giving her the other half. Because? It's fucked up. i Because that's because i don't know teaching you lessons about tax men because I'm the parent and you they show me respect like whatever it is. right That's fucked up. But like hey but honestly i don't think that was abnormal for the times. Yeah. In Asia. Yeah.
Speaker: yeah Yeah. I could see that. um And my dad young military blah blah blah. He's like the fourth of 10 kids. So their upbringings are very much like when you hear when you hear about Conan O'Roy being from a being with a 10 child Irish family and the parents. So you're lucky if they remember your name. It's like, especially you're past number five. Right. yeah You're just there you're alive and no one has to go to the hospital. right Fucking A. that's It's a win. right it's right Right. You haven't murdered anybody and you haven't been murdered. where we We're good. Thank the Lord.
Speaker: Off you go. Right. kind of yeah So you go from that to then small core four family family. And so they you know, they like I mean, I know they loved us. I know that because they sacrificed for us. We had nothing and they bought you toys and they bought you. I get all that. Yeah. And the drive to Disneyland drive to you imagine driving to fucking Disneyland from Vancouver to L.A.
Speaker: Fuck and back. Right. Yeah. I remember that my dad's busy doing two jobs and still had time. to So, of course, I know he they loved us, but you don't have the. I don't i remember them ever asking me if I did my homework.
Speaker: Right. Yeah. I don't know that. I don't know that I ever got asked that either. I don't remember that actually. Whereas we're all over our kids, like white on rice. Yeah. But it I mean, owe me the fuck home yeah, which doesn't always pan out the way I want to want it to either. So as we both know. Yeah.
Speaker: And that's why our kids are soft. Thanks to us. Yeah. ah Yeah. I mean, there's got to be a balance though in the middle somewhere, right? Like you can't completely ignore them and, you know, be all over them. Like, well, I mean, they're not learning self-sufficiently if you're all, you know, self-sufficiency, if you're all over them a hundred percent of the time. ands true And if you're not on them at all, you know, the like what are you teaching them then? Like it's the yeah parenting. Parenting is a very difficult, difficult exploration. my daughterrself She's not happy with me. And she says, daddy, I'm like,
Speaker: Little lady, you're a first time daughter and I'm a first time father. Yeah. making mistakes together. Yeah, that's totally it. I can't be perfect because I've never done it before. That's right. Well, that's what I tell my kids all the time, too. Yeah.
Speaker: it's It's my first time, your first time. We're trying to figure it out at the same time and I'm going to make mistakes. I'm big happy family. You're going to make mistakes and it's okay to have accountability for those mistakes. Like, it's fine.
Speaker: So on that note, if your kids or my kids are listening, I do hope they call us every day. Yeah, same. Same. I like talking to them. They're fun. Exactly. All right. On that happy note, you know what time it is. Yeah, i sort of do Bing, bing, bing.
Speaker: need to get the sound effects ready. I'm ready. Okay. Jessica. Ish. I'm going to start you with an easy one. Here's a softball down the middle. Did you hear about that person who was afraid of jumping a hurdle? Actually, it's not even a really thing.
Speaker: Did you hear about that person who was afraid of jumping over a hurdle? It's not even a question. What the fuck? Yeah, I don't even know what this is. I'll just give to you. They got over it. oh That's like a conversation.
Speaker: That's like, hey, have you heard about the person who jumped over the hurdle? And you go, no, I haven't. You're like, ha, ha, ha, they got over it. That's not even a joke. All right. That was not good. Here's the next one that I circled. Okay, okay, okay. This is more.
Speaker: This is more softball down the middle. You just said that about the last one. don't know if we can be friends anymore. All right. Pressure. Yeah, no, no pressure. you're not going to be my friend, you're just not going to be friend. It's okay.
Speaker: What's the best way to watch a fly fishing tournament? I mean, come on, baby. What's the best way to watch a fly fishing tournament? Fly fishing...
Speaker: Fly fishing, watching, fly fishing. Ugh. Nope. Definitely not getting it. Watching, fishing. Where do you fish? Where do you fly fish?
Speaker: I don't. I don't fly fish. That's part of the problem right now is I'm totally disconnected from this conversation. Okay, well, hate to do this to you, but. Yeah, god yeah, yeah. Live stream it.
Speaker: Yeah, that's stupid. Come on. I thought you'd get that for sure. That's silly. Okay. A lot people yelling they're doing the laundry. Next one. oh this is another bullshit one. i Okay. Did you hear about the square that got into a car accident? have to reword this.
Speaker: What happened to the square that got into a car accident? Oh. Come on. What happened to the square? Come What happened to the square that got into a car accident? Or did you hear about the square that got into car accident? No, I haven't heard about the square that got into a car accident. This is not going well. No, it isn't. This is not going well.
Speaker: Yeah. Now he's a rectangle. Rectangle? Okay, I'm done now. Peace piece out. Done. No. That's over. That was not bad. Over. That was not that bad.
Speaker: I need to find one that you can actually get. Let's just call it and say you just picked the wrong ones today. You've already done three and they were all bad. Okay.
Speaker: You're right. You're right. You're right. like you you get an ah You get an opportunity again next time. In two weeks. Right. In two weeks. But you don't get to continue torturing me right now. We're done.
Speaker: We're done. right Over. All right, people. Thank you. Episode 56 comes to an end. and Thank you. Enjoy your summer. Bye. Bye. Well, well, well, you made it to the end.
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