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C2 Ep. 134 Eberron Reviewed 24
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We take a look back on the past arc and answer your questions.
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Introduction and Eberron Focus
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D20 radio, your game is roll.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Eberron Renewed, an actual play RPG podcast, currently Genesis, currently Eberron. We'll see what's happening. I'm Jeff. I'm Philip. I'm Trevor. I'm Randy. And I'm Eric.
Purpose of Eberron Reviewed
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And we're not going to get into the OGL or anything like that. I'm just saying zeitgeisty things. We are here, and I am talking, because it is time to do an Eberron Reviewed, where we go back over the last, in this case, I believe, six episodes. And we're going to deconstruct what we talked about, answer some questions, and re-litigate miscommunications. So this...
Debating the Arc's Consequence
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I think, and you guys can quietly disagree with me to yourself, this might be the most consequential arc we've... This might be the most consequential arc relative to the campaigns that we've had in this show. Like obviously bigger stuff happening campaign one, but relative to the scope of campaign one, this was a big deal. I really agree. I feel like the world is a different place after we recorded this.
00:02:31
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I had Randy Ghost of Christmas Futuring in my ear. I disagree while you were talking and that just sent shivers down my spine. So Randy does not agree with you. I didn't see a mouse moving and I was really weirded out. Randy is free to disagree with me. So are the listeners if they want to, but here I am saying it because we
00:02:52
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I mean, a full sea change. I can't imagine we can still be affiliated with the Boromars. I can't imagine that the Boromars can last much longer. Eric can figure out a way, I'm sure. But let's get into what
Unity Dinner Incident
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happened. What happened was we started a dinner. We went to the Unity dinner and it was because of a despair this time when Solomon Calloway showed up, right? Yes.
00:03:19
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Yes. It started out, we genuinely set out to have a reduced episode, I think, and things just took off into a different direction. Eric, you may know better than me. Did you, were you setting up this stuff the whole time? I know, obviously, the Satan murder of it all was going to happen. Well, we, so we recorded the actual uni there as a filler, but you all stuck around a lot longer than I anticipated, because I think the
00:03:45
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the first episode of this arc was like the tail end of that, like you all noticing that certain people are missing, going and trying to track down Drawther and Kath and all that kind of stuff. So I was, yes, I was surprised at how long you all stuck around the party, but yes, I was definitely building towards the Satan of it all. Yeah, most of the second episode is either at the party or dealing with the direct fallout of the party, trying to find those five missing people.
00:04:13
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Um, so at the party, Reynard and Callaway had their discussion where Reynard basically was like, like, I don't have a lot for you right now. And what was Salman's response, Trevor? Not great. Um, kind of like, uh, Oh, what's the, what's the saying? I can't think of it, but I think it's also might be sexual. So it's probably best. I forgot it. Okay. Wait.
00:04:43
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And then I forgot what he said. Basically, if you don't have something the next time, I see you. Goodbye.
Reynard's Family Ties
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Yeah, he basically said, enjoy the time you have if you're not more useful to me. Trevor, this is a Jeff question. This is not from a listener. I do listen.
00:05:07
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Does Raynard, did Trevor, catch any coincidence between his father suddenly being very excited to welcome him back into the fold and also his father needing him to inform on the Boromar clan? Is Raynard so oblivious because he's happy to be back in good graces with his family? I just read it as what it is. Raynard's dad is using him to get information. It doesn't actually care anymore.
00:05:37
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I don't think Reynard's thought about it much. I think we both get nervous when we talk to the family. Trevor and Reynard. So of all three of us, good Lord. There's a whole party. So I don't think there's a,
00:06:05
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No, I don't think there's a thought process of, this is just, he just wants something out of it. Okay.
Milo's Warnings and Class Dynamics
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And again, as always, any of you guys jump in with something that I didn't write down? Milo and, it was Jrother, Milo and Jrother had the conversation about, right? Yes, we did.
00:06:31
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Yeah, it was the nicer version of what Eris said the next episode about Drawther and Callaway working together. But yeah, Milo tried to warn Drawther about him, and Drawther did the same thing he did for us, and even for what is his brother-husband's name. Oh, where's my notebook? Ah. Sauna's dad has a name. He does.
00:06:58
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Yes, he does. I think it starts with an A. Malin. A couple A's. Kevin Trotter and Malin. And everyone in there. And he said that, and he said about us, he said about Malin, he said, like, oh, you guys just don't understand how it works up here, kind of, is what it felt like he was getting at. Which is such a rich guy thing. Anyway,
00:07:28
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And then Hob and Dorla had a quick, or Hob Kath and Dorla had a quick conversation where Hob fully beefed it on recognizing that Kath was in distress, which sucks, because the way I play Hob is there's zero chance that he would not notice the way Kath was actually, but the dice do what the dice do, and I just had to roll with it. And then Eris had a series of drunken misadventures. I don't know what you're talking about.
00:08:05
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But yeah, I Knowing that now Eric I can see like we were spinning wheels while you were trying to get to something and it feels that way Not what I think about listening to it But we close the party or we close that episode mid-party
00:08:23
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And when we open up the second episode of the party, Eric says, was this as a result of a despair?
00:08:30
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I can't remember if it was or not. So it was, at the end of the reduced, I had the little cutaway to Callaway getting to the Mill Hatch meeting and seeing all the dead people. And I think after we stopped recording, Philip made a comment of like, well, everybody that would be a suspect is at the party. And I went, ah, you're right, crap. I need to fix that. So it was,
00:08:55
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a rewind of like, okay, here are the people that are missing from the party. So that was the reasoning for it. And it was two of the hosts, their daughter, her friend, and our street criminal buddy, Ace. So Drather, Malen, Dorla, Cath, and Ace. All the likely suspects. Well, and we just went just straight for everything that didn't matter. Actually, I have a question.
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we started looking for the people that it ended up, we're like still there or fully benign.
00:09:30
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Did we find Drawther and Malen in the situation they were in just chatting in the study because of the triumph, saying, can we just make one of these easier to find? Was there something more going on at one point, or was that always going to be their thing? No, that was always going to be like Drawther had gotten heated with Catherine and needed to take a beat, and Malen was going to take him aside and be like, OK, let's calm down. So yeah, that was just you all going straight to it as opposed to needing to investigate more. OK.
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I did notice something, and I want to bring this up, because I feel like it happens a lot. Randy has a certain gravitas to him that he can just say stuff, and Eric doesn't check him on it. He's like, sure, fine. That's canon. Why not? Like, when Milo goes, well, I don't think that Drowther has ever left one of these parties early, and we all just were like, fine. I don't know what. Well, it makes sense. Yeah. It totally makes sense.
00:10:27
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Yeah, I'm sure if you were like, well, Drawther's dad is a dragon, so who knows? Actually, no. That could be what Milo believes. Turns out he was right. No, and that's just me personally as a GM.
00:10:45
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I really enjoy the co-creation of stuff like that with players. So oftentimes, like if Randy goes or something like that, then yeah, I'm like, yeah, sure. That's absolutely something that Milo would know and could establish because Milo comes to these parties all the time. So and I think I would rather do it that way than to just stop the role play and say, hey, Eric, I mean, because I do that enough already, I think, like, hey, Eric, is it safe to assume that Milo knows this or thinks this? Sometimes I'm just like,
00:11:14
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Milo comes to these parties. Drother is a host here. It's probably highly unusual that he would leave.
Despair Roll and Character Dynamics
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So sometimes I might make some assumptions. Hey, I dig it. Go for it. Keep it up.
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Yeah, no, it's great. I think it's just the way Milo talks is just always kind of, it's half very important and half kind of spacey. And so you're just like, sure, Milo. It's very not liking to leave. Such a good character. I'm going to miss Milo.
00:11:47
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I don't miss Booyah. I'm going to miss Milo. I'm just kidding. God. So we go in our efforts to find missing people, we split up. Hobb and Eris stay together to look for Ace. Milo and Rainard go outside. Yeah, boy. And the despairs continue. And Trevor rolls a despair, and Trevor says, I am still on the run, which leads to a member of the watch.
00:12:18
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I don't know how to ask this. It was a despair that led to this watch member showing up. There was no way that Trevor and Randy were going to see it as anything other than a problem.
00:12:28
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So when did you know, Eric, that this was going to actually be, or has he always been a planted cop? And you decided this was the time to reveal it? And that would be? He has always been a planted cop. Every time Trevor has interacted with him has been with a result of a despair. So it's never been clear. Like every time I'm like, okay, he'll show up in the scene, Trevor rolls a despair and is like, okay, so yeah. A Charne City Watch detective is chasing you. And this time,
00:12:57
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Milo was there and Milo did not run nope So so yeah, that's been always that that's been a lot of fun to like Have this person that's just trying to help Raynard
00:13:13
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in the way that Reynard asked, but Reynard and him just not able to communicate. So, yeah. I'm giving this moron what he wanted. That's pretty great. Keeps running away.
00:13:31
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But I mean, just wild stuff. You throw a car at him. You is how I'm going to say it. You took the chalk off the wheels and tried to roll a car at him. And then you just transformed and wandered in back to the scene. Like those firefighters that turned out to be arsonists. You just had to be right there to watch it. I thought it was smart.
00:13:59
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Yeah. We'll come back to. I mean, it was stupid, but it was smart. They see the claws before before Habaneris do. But at that point, Philip does remind us, hey, I made these claws. And I'm glad Philip remembered that because I can't imagine Randy Trevor. I know I didn't. Thankfully, Eric and Philip are more diligent at those sorts of things.
00:14:27
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And what a great clue, and what a good reveal. That was just really good work, Eric and Philip, of course. But yeah, so jumping back to Hab and Eris, they decided that Ace is probably up to no good, which still feels fair, even though we were in... Well, he was up to no good, just not in the house.
00:14:51
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Fine Drawther and Malen, again, as a result of a triumph, Eric just kind of goes, yeah, they're in the study. And they're there. And Eris has never been great at keeping her thoughts inside of her head. But she's also been really good at not saying things to hurt other people, necessarily. I feel like she's got some compassion in her and just fully did not
00:15:21
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Will you tell me, Philip, was she not thinking about it? Was she trying to hurt, draw through a little bit by bringing up Faroo or was she just stream of consciousness, bad stuff about Callaway? Uh, there's a little bit of that, but, um, Eris operates on a very, very specific concept of loyalty.
00:15:50
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And I, I can't remember exactly how I was phrased this, but it was either Eris realizing that Drawther was cooperating with the person other than herself that Eris blames for Faroo's death. Um, because there's definitely a lot of, I got Faroo killed, uh, still going on. Um,
00:16:22
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Either the author doesn't know and Eris has to inform him because the second he knows, he's obviously going to be as outraged as she is and is going to cut all ties and probably attempt to kill Callaway. Or he does know, in which case Eris is going to yell at him for being a disloyal prick.
00:16:53
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I will say the way Eris said it was almost as gentle as one can be while being very confrontational. She was like, he was involved with the creating the thing that killed Faroo. Okay, then I must have been working is about it. I must have been thinking of it as drawther must not know. Like if drawther is working with this person, there's no way he knows.
Confrontations and Moral Questions
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And so and I think that's totally fair. And he needs to. So
00:17:19
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I'll tell you what, if any of you guys were about to get into some sort of partnership with someone who was party to murders, I would tell you. I appreciate that. That's good. I would want you to. And you know what, frankly, way less offenses than murder, I'd probably tell you about. And I mean, of course, Drawther gets mad, kicks us out, makes sense.
00:17:47
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And at some point in this, while Ace comes up and tells us he's been scouting around, and that's just real Ace stuff. But among all of them. Don't skip over. On Hobb's orders in Ace's mind. In Ace's mind. Importantly, on Hobb's orders as Ace understood them, which was not how Hobb meant them at all. But, still funny.
00:18:14
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But importantly, during this, we start hearing this clock ticking in the form of Eric saying, Satan has arrived at the office. Satan's been there about 15 minutes. I believe we get to a half hour before the episode ends. I think so. Satan has been there and we head there. Obviously, episode ends with us finding out. Did you, was there, if we had left the party as soon as- That's my question too. If we had. You tell me, Eric.
00:18:45
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When did Satan die? Could we have prevented it? Would it have ended up in a huge fight? I wanna know the hypotheticals because it's over now. Yeah, essentially it was a question of like, I didn't think there, like Satan, to fully pull back the curtain, Satan was killed as soon as he entered his office. Like basically like somebody was lying in wait, did it and then fled.
00:19:13
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So if you all left and like met Satan as he was walking into his office, then obviously there wouldn't have been opportunity for you all to intervene in some capacity and you know, we would see what happens then. My
00:19:31
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greater intention would have been for you all to like witness the murder itself, see the person like jumping out the window, etc, etc. If you all would have gotten there at the 15 minute mark, Satan would still have been like bleeding out and could have communicated with you all. Like his last dying words kind of thing before he passes.
00:19:56
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And then obviously, past that point, it was you find a corpse. So that was kind of the breakdown that I had in terms of when you all arrived. So yeah, that's...
00:20:14
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So regardless of... The only big thing that I'm sad we didn't get with you all witnessing the murder is that the murderer was going to have the appearance of Jason on. That was going to be a fun little like what the crap is going on kind of thing. But yeah.
00:20:34
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regardless of when we showed up though would we still have been caught in flagrante like if we showed up 15 minutes earlier the family showed up 15 minutes earlier like um i mean if if obviously satan was still conscious and saw like there were a lot of different ways that perhaps you could have had some additional backing um but the circumstance was obviously um
00:21:03
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It was known that you all were planning on meeting with Satan, and things were set up in a way to where the intention was to put you all on your heels, I guess is the best way to put it. Sure.
Player Reactions to Plot Twists?
00:21:14
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Well, that all sounds fun, but I do remember how it did go down, and man, no notes. I gotta tell you, no notes. I loved it. So episode ends with you saying, Satan's body was Raynard's knife driven into his chest. Yep.
00:21:30
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We were all super cool with it. We were all very chill about it the whole time. The break between recording those two episodes, everybody was totally fine and nothing weird. Philip didn't throw anything. It's fine. Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm calling this the third episode. I guess it's technically the second episode of the arc. Yeah. Because the first one was reduced. Everything goes, man.
00:21:57
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We're standing there over a dead body. We try to do a little bit of damage control really quickly because we knew something was going to happen. I do want to ask real quick, just getting a barometer as GM to players kind of thing, like how did you all feel about walking into that circumstance, like a major player like Satan being killed?
00:22:17
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quote unquote, off camera and like just that that whole situation and a major character like that being killed. Like I would love to hear. I told you when it was over that I believe that's the probably the only time I've been upset with you. Yeah. I did not like it at all. I was upset. Like, how could you?
00:22:48
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like Milo especially he's like how could this happen to him Randy felt the same way I mean I already said it I no notes I thought it was great I thought it's the most surprised I've been playing this game with you people maybe ever but
00:23:08
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It was fantastic. I will be honest, I very quickly shifted into, all right, I am pretty certain that Eric is going to be screaming at us as Vigo very soon, and I'm going to prepare myself for that, because I don't like it. I personally, Jeff, don't like it. And Eric knows that, and so he does it to get a rise out of me for his little podcast. And so I very genuinely was like, all right, it's going to happen.
00:23:36
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You're, you're playing a game with your friends. Um, but I loved it. I thought it was great. I was genuinely surprised. And like, I made my little joke about being your puppet. Um, didn't actually feel that way at all. Not unlike Randy. I was totally surprised. Shocked and surprised. You guys want to weigh in or?
00:24:04
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I love a plot twist. I genuinely thought was going to happen very soon after we noticed the body. We tried to do some mitigating things, but it was like, this is bad and it's not going to get good.
00:24:23
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And then the whole family, all of the extant Boromars roll into the room, along with all of the department heads? No, like Lady Briar wasn't there. Lady Briar wasn't there, okay. Hutch was there for protection, not like it, they were out for a family dinner. Right, but yeah, I mean, Hutch, Tarvel, what's his name, Vigo? Hutch is second in command, but yeah, I mean, yeah, he's representative of the ghosts, but yeah.
00:24:56
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And yeah, it immediately devolved into two hot heads yelling at each other because that's what was going to happen. I don't know about you guys, but I immediately was like, well, Vigo knows what happened and Vigo is a part of this, so I will not be taking anything he does seriously. And Tarvel did whisper in our little heads to our surprise to run away.
00:25:27
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Was anybody on this call surprised when I decided to use my triumph to kidnap Viggo? Okay, Eric was surprised. I thought that was a no-brainer, man. I was like, I am taking this guy with me. Astonished and on my heels. You immediately turned the tables on me. I was like, oh no, what? I hate Genesis sometimes. Why are they allowed to do this?
00:25:51
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I was gonna try to do it regardless. All I did with the triumph, I think, was get him in a better position. Yeah, no, absolutely, that's what you did. Because him surrounded by Hutch and the other guards and the family would make that incredibly difficult to do. But yeah, you being able to say he walks away from them to the middle of the room to kneel over Satan's body is like, well, there's nothing anybody can do at this point, because Viggo's an idiot. Which tracks for Viggo. Well, my thought was,
00:26:20
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Did this just get a whole lot worse? And then my other thought was, I don't know that it could really get a whole lot worse. So yeah, go for it. That's kind of what my thought was. There is no way we're getting out of here in any sort of good way. So I'm just going to ensure that we learn something and have a little personal vendetta fulfilled. Yeah. And it just felt right.
00:26:52
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There was a lot that happened. I mean, obviously, some great Tasha stuff with Aeris. And I love when Philip talks about driving Tasha, because he likes to say things like, I dropped the stick and swing the back end around. And we just go, yeah, Philip drifts cars on the weekends. Sure. I don't even know if one must drop the stick to swing the back end around. But I fully went with it.
Chase Sequences and Creative Combat
00:27:21
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I find it funny just because it makes perfectly no sense at all. Tasha is suspended in the air with what does he acquire the frick with the, does, does Eris acquire the friction to, to drift Tasha. Um, but of course it does just like all air speeders in the star Wars world can do exactly the same maneuvers that a fast and the furious car can.
00:27:51
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I mean, I can't imagine if reverse thrusters were an option, Aeris has added. Oh, certainly, yes, definitely. I mean, what it comes down to is the fact that the ship is alive, like there's an air elemental flying the ship. And so what we're really learning is that Tasha's a showboat. It's true. Fair enough.
00:28:18
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We're not in the Boromar building for actually a long time. We get out and as a result of a despair, we are being chased by Okon and two of his friends for another skiff fight, another traveling fight. I love it when they chase us. I love it when they chase us. We have so much fun in Genesis. Milo's got his trademark, throw out an illusion at him. We just... Mm-hmm.
00:28:45
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I think the worst things that we've done to people have been when they're chasing us in a skiff. I firmly think that's the most horrifying ways in which we've caused NPCs to meet their demise. Because if they're chasing us, they're doing it voluntarily.
00:29:05
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And if we come upon them, it's just like, man, it's a bummer that you were the guy working tonight when we have to steal this stuff. But if you're chasing me, then yeah, I'm going to do what it takes to keep you from doing that anymore. I do have a question, Eric. If the driver of the skiff had failed the fear check, and the language says they have to try to get away as far away as possible,
00:29:26
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would they have turned around or would there have been like a fight with somebody else kind of thing? Probably they would have tried to have turned around but if someone else in the skiff hadn't failed it they would have like reached up and tried to seize control and like there would have been a a tussle for control of the the skiff but sure that's kind of what I figured yeah um because yeah you I mean you're gonna figure out a way to not just fully negate the kind of the thing you planned and I think that's correct
00:29:55
Speaker
I disagree. Just a lot of little fun things. I mean, they shot at us. We were towing them at one point. Trevor, like full body garroted a guy. I learned that I had three other cousins. You know, Okon, Kawkas, and Perrin. You have met them before. They have been in the show. No, here's the deal. I had the information. That doesn't mean I knew it.
00:30:23
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You know, at least like fully a you problem. You're taking the blame on that one, which is good. Yeah. I knew the one was my cousin. I didn't know the other two were. Yep. Sorry. I didn't remember the other two were. That's the right word. But yeah, this is where after this we shake the skiff.
00:30:52
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That's when we start the beginnings of a conversation that lasts for the whole next episode as well, which is like, okay, what next? Hob, you've made a very strange decision and now we have to deal with what we're going to do with it. You are dogs and you caught the car. What do you do now? Yeah, pretty much.
00:31:15
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And the answer, at first, is let's go find some place private and scare this guy into answering all of our, oh, okay, the first thing that happened was Raynard shoved a harpoon through his hand into a box. That's true. Didn't ask anybody. This guy that went there. Just went for it. He didn't want to get away. He's gonna jump out of the skip and fly.
00:31:43
Speaker
Literally, his only survivable option was sit there. You never know. It's a magical world. You never know. It's a magic world. You never know. He could have a featherfall token or something. But he instead... He could have whispered to a moth and called the eagles. I don't know. Okay.
00:32:14
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We find a quiet place, and I think we kind of get into the next
Role Player Luck and Decisions
00:32:20
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episode. I'm just gonna roll right into it. At some point, we get a triumph where we weren't followed, which was clutch, which was huge. We are God's luckiest role players. We got so many triumphs. God's favorite role players, actually, I think might be how we should describe ourselves. It's the new intro for that. So many triumphs. Welcome to God's favorite actual. I didn't say we were God's favorite podcast.
00:32:43
Speaker
I did an actual play, specifically. Okay, fair enough. Oh, I wonder... Is there an explicitly...
00:32:53
Speaker
Christian role-playing game system. Oh, I guarantee there's dozens. You know what? Actually, Green Ronin, a while back, back when they were doing True 20, which was their sort of iteration of third edition, they made a supplement called Testament that was made for creating an RPG set in the Old Testament.
00:33:22
Speaker
Um, and so it built a, I mean, it was, it was just a straight RPG system. Like it didn't, it wasn't like proselytizing or anything. It was just, how would we create the kinds of heroes that you find in the monstrosities that are in the old Testament? Yeah. Like how do you, how do you make Samson or Moses as an RPG?
00:33:43
Speaker
I mean, I suppose that's good information, but I said explicitly, Christian, if it was the New Testament role playing setting. That's true. That's true. I'm not aware of one. It seems likely that it would exist. That's coming for second edition, so.
00:34:00
Speaker
Well, listeners, you can take that for your own edification. I just decided to ask a question and now we know. Or Eric, cut it. One of those two things happened. So it gets into the next episode and we just start asking the questions. And Eric, you need to remind me, because I don't recall, did you give me the use my brawl stat as coercion talent at the very first thing or was that one of the first ones I chose? Because it is really panning out.
00:34:28
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I think it's, I remember putting it in there. It's like Gun Show, right? Yes, yes. That was just one of the... No, no. Gun Show is the extra advantage one, I think. No, that's Loom. You're right. That's called... Because I say Loom all the time. I'm a big dumb... No, that's just something that you picked. I brought it over, I think, from Star Wars, but you picked it. Yeah. Okay. Well, way to go us. What a collaborative effort for a pretty cool thing. Yep.
00:34:56
Speaker
I did love being like, okay, what do you want me to ask him though? I mean, we find out so much. We find out that, you know, Callaway, I mean, stuff we knew, but really confirmed. Callaway's trying to horn in both on Bormar's and the city council. We knew that the, that Vigo was working with, with Thorani, that,
00:35:25
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Jason did the Jason and Vigo did the keg bottoms fire that Ocon killed Satan what else did we find out at least what else was confessed to I guess I can't say we found out for sure because who knows what could happen but I Think that's most of it, isn't it? Okay
00:35:47
Speaker
But it was just, I mean, it was very informative. Viggo, you know, Viggo, it's fun to talk down to Viggo. It was the revenge fantasy of the bully brought low and you're able to finally be like, what's the matter, buddy? Is a wonder. Was there anyone? Oh, go ahead. I will say that Milo was going to kill Viggo at the end there. Oh, we know.
00:36:15
Speaker
I was leaning into that. We, yeah, we all knew that that's what Milo was going to do, which is why we all were like, you don't have, you don't have to, you don't have to. And thank you for not because I think it, I think it led to some really good stuff in the. Well, it would have hit, it would have hit Eris, I believe if Milo would have popped that spell off. Oh, I see. That's literally the only reason you didn't do that spell was because Phillips and Harris is between them. Yep.
00:36:43
Speaker
Okay. And I know Eric was pushing Milo, Vigo was pushing Milo into that. Oh yeah. Eric was Vigo trying to get himself killed to like. Yeah. At that point. Thinking of a potentially worse fate of being caught. Yeah. At that point. Well, it was, it was a lot of calculus of like, I'm not going to be able to get out of this. So what's the, I mean,
00:37:13
Speaker
If you all kill Viggo in that moment, then that was the most damning thing you all could have done for your own story. You got the information out of him and then you disposed of him so that he couldn't refute anything that you recorded. So it was his last ditch effort of trying to exact his,
00:37:38
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revenge like uh for lack of a better way to put it like uh it was it was him trying to seal your all's fate yeah um because that point he knew that there was nothing left for him yeah well randy was somewhat freaking out i mean part of me is like i know somebody's gonna stop milo i know somebody's gonna stop it
00:37:58
Speaker
And as the GM, I leaned into it because I thought that would be the most like, either you all having to force Milo to not kill Vigo or Milo killing Vigo from a storytelling standpoint are the most interesting things that could happen in that moment. So, absolutely.
00:38:20
Speaker
And it's funny because, what, 20 minutes earlier Milo was going like, I think if we would have just stayed, we could have talked to him and everything would have been fine. Nobody, they were going to kill all of us. And I believe Randy said, maybe not all of us. Well, that's why, you know, Milo is, I mean, emotionally
00:38:42
Speaker
in the you know he wasn't a bad place still kind of in a bad place now now somewhat father figure who's always for most of Milo's life been pretty darn kind to him is now gone also so that's another reason Randy's upset with Eric still a little bit maybe
00:39:06
Speaker
I drew names out of a hat at the beginning of the campaign. I drew Randy's name so he was the one getting tortured this time around. You're welcome. No, I noticed something that kind of like stopped me and I reminded and listened to it again. But at one point when Eris says like Boromar is dead, Randy or Milo
00:39:27
Speaker
And a pretty frustrated voice says, I am Boromar, or I am a Boromar, or part of Boromar. Something like that. I was just like, OK, there is a lot to unpack there. Yep.
00:39:38
Speaker
The role playing that happened in the scene, I was almost disappointed every time you all turned back to Viggo, because I loved the inter-party dynamics that were happening in that moment. Not to say that you all shouldn't be talking to Viggo, obviously, but that was just like, I was enjoying watching the party role play in that scene. And it's like you guys were saying that,
00:40:05
Speaker
from your viewpoint, at least that I'm picking up on is like, you know, we can't be a part of Boromar anymore. And I don't see how we can be long to Boromar anymore. And from Milo's standpoint, he wants to save the clan. You know, he's gonna, he's the one that's like, no, you know, that can't happen. Yeah. Well, all the other three of us have at some point in our lives been not a part of Boromar. Yeah. You guys have reason for sure.
00:40:36
Speaker
And I will say, nothing was like paused and talked about out of character during all of this. There was no like, okay, let's stop and actually figure out what we wanna do and then we'll record it. Like all of those conversations are us doing it in character. Rainard saying he wants to take to his dad, me and, or Pab and Aeris saying we probably should do Verla. Milo taking it back to the clan. Like all of that was,
00:41:02
Speaker
real time, us trying to figure out where to move forward in character. And I mean, it's not atypical for us, but the stakes of this one felt so high that it was really fun to do it that way. I don't know if you guys felt that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. In the end, we do decide that
00:41:27
Speaker
We decide that we've been recording the whole thing the whole time because that made things a lot easier to just hand wave that with a story point. And then, yeah, we decide what we're gonna do. We're all gonna go our separate ways, not really knowing where each other's going so we can't be asked about it. Eris is taking the man himself straight to Verla. That was such a good conversation on The Sending Stone to, like, to resolute people not wanting to budge but recognizing they had to was a really fun thing to listen to.
00:41:58
Speaker
Like, I don't want to talk to you in person. Well, I'm not going to talk to you like this. Well, crap. What do we do? And I wish because that was after we had done the third party cutaway of there was a despair where Verla goes to the dark lanterns to like, try and get some backup on this murder investigation that she's being stymied on. And yes, what did
00:42:20
Speaker
Go ahead, please. I just love the visual of Verla getting that call while she's sitting at Cephas Coldore's desk like talking, he's like, you will not believe who's contacting me, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, that was a despair. I mean, you basically said to us, like, you already said you weren't getting caught, so I can't, or weren't followed, so I can't use that. I'm not bringing another person here to fight you. So let me just go really off
00:42:49
Speaker
the map with this one. And it was really good. It caught me off guard a lot. Well, I think that's been my my biggest growth as a GM over the course of campaign two is like losing my leaning into how powerful a tool dramatic irony can be.
00:43:13
Speaker
Like, because early on in the campaign, I would have very much done the, okay, I've spent the despair, Tihihi, and like in my notes wrote, Verla goes to Coldor, et cetera, and like, it will be revealed when it's revealed. But no, it's so much more fun and interesting to just let you all know that that's what's happening. And like, obviously your characters don't, but...
00:43:36
Speaker
It's still part of the story that's being told, so there's nothing wrong with that, and it's actually, I think, a lot better. Sure. Also, early in our history of playing together, I don't think I would have had the discipline or self-control to not pretend I didn't know it the whole time, or like my character would act in a way that he knew it. Now I'm better about that. But yeah, so ultimately we decide to do
00:44:04
Speaker
just take tapes to where the two guys who didn't get their way, Raynard and Milo, are just going to take recordings to their people. And I didn't realize it until right this second. But Hobbs called like, all right, you guys do your thing. I got a pretty existing meeting I got to go to. Let's not forget our appointments, fellas. It's nice to be booked.
00:44:33
Speaker
which leads to something we had to do out of necessity that I think really worked really well. This was, for those of you who, I don't remember if we said it or not, but basically we had two separate recording sessions for those two episodes titled Zooming to Meetings.
00:44:51
Speaker
one with just Trevor and I, and then one with just Philip and Randy because of times we could make it. And Eric just put these four little vignettes together that all seem to be missing pieces, but wouldn't you know, the missing pieces showed up in the other three scenes. It was really beautiful, and I'm really excited to have the conversation when we all get back together. The four of us all get back together to talk about what we know or learned.
00:45:15
Speaker
So we're just going to go in order and I'm going to take a step back and let the two people who were involved in the conversation lead the talking about it. So first was Reynard going to talk to his father. Yes. Yep. Ready to go. Mr. Reynard went and talked to his father and his brothers were there. No, his brother and his cousin was there.
00:45:38
Speaker
And then, honestly, not a whole lot happens besides me playing the recording. Well, Basil thought that maybe you had actually done it. Aleister explains that that detective that's been chasing you is trying to help. Please stop running away from him.
00:46:01
Speaker
These things just happen, yes. Yes. I mean, probably the biggest thing is that you have a follow-up meeting that you have to go to in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was after I played the video, right? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah, and I don't... Okay. Never mind.
00:46:23
Speaker
No, go ahead. Those are questions for when we record what happens next. But yeah, I mean, Calvary is welcoming Raynard back with open arms because Calvary sees that there's a literal war coming between their dragon marked counterparts, Thirani, because they
00:46:47
Speaker
did an assassination in their turf and it's not going to be good. So all hands on deck kind of thing. And I too killed one.
00:47:00
Speaker
Yep, that's just a scuffle. Like killing each other, eh, they did a job here, which is the grievance that cannot stand. So, but yeah, so Raynard has to go meet with Elvinor Elarenthi de Fierlin. Was that all that happened? I feel like we took 30, 40 minutes to do that.
00:47:29
Speaker
I mean, there were a lot of questions about, go ahead. I was going to say, in the edit, it hits almost exactly the half hour mark where we switch from your conversation to my conversation, so. Yeah. I mean, we're definitely Cliff's noticing all of the conversation that happened, but, um, and I think Calvert also was kind of trying to gain a temperature on like how involved Reynard wanted to be with the family. Like, because you're back, but are you back? Kind of. Yeah.
00:48:01
Speaker
So I have a question, just gaining Trevor's temperature right now. Reynard's gotten two post all this craziness offers on the table in the form of House Fearland and his family and the Lighthouse Consortium. Which way is Reynard leaning in terms of future endeavors? Well, I guess that's just gonna figure itself out.
00:48:28
Speaker
That didn't make any sense. No, it's not. It's an active choice that you have to make, in fact. I'm going to stand here and let things happen around me. I was trying to say, I just have a sneaking suspicion. My family's not great, so...
00:48:47
Speaker
I guess it's going to that decision soon made when something comes to light. So what was it? The kicking you out thing that it's that they're working with Solomon Callaway. That there's a lot. Fair enough. Yeah, I mean, that's that's the big thing coming out of that is Raynard's got another meeting and dad wants Raynard's help.
00:49:18
Speaker
So. All right. And then we jump over to... Oh, and Calvary's also excited about Alira taking over the clan because she's going to ruin it. That was also Calvary's takeaway. Right. Which again, we all realized absolutely leads right into what Solomon might want because Alira would have to leave the council creating a vacuum to join it. And then we jump over to Hob and Dorla. How do you spell Dorla?
00:49:48
Speaker
D-O-apostrophe-O-R-L-A to Orla? Well, I got it wrong. And Laura in the Discord got it right. Fine. Um... Habendorleme. And she goes into... She does a much better job of explaining what the demons are to not seem absolutely wild that Faroo just could not quite find the syntax for. Uh... Was that...
00:50:16
Speaker
Eric, we're fighting some things after we gave Faroo such a hard time for talking about demons. No, honestly, this is a, I guess shameless plug for something that's not ours. I mean, Chronicles of Eberron came out between Faroo and Dorla's explanations and Keith Baker in that book said, here's what the common person knows about demons. And so that was very helpful in Dorla approaching this conversation with Hob and me like, and me being able to say to you, Jeff, here's what Hob would know.
00:50:46
Speaker
about demons so that was a very helpful tool to be like okay here's your baseline now contextualize what Dorla has to say so and yeah Dorla is a very different person she's much more
00:51:04
Speaker
methodical and measured than Faroo was. Faroo was very much a leap into the fray and take care of business, whereas Dorla is a strategist, I guess. Yeah, look where that got him.
00:51:27
Speaker
But basically, the crux of that conversation was that Dorla explained to Hobb about the draconic prophecy. And the draconic prophecy are Nostradamus-esque. You can find a historical thing that makes Nostradamus right. The difference is that draconic prophecies exist in a fantasy world where they're more likely to be real.
00:51:54
Speaker
But they are vague, they are open to interpretation, but the thing that Dorlick comes to hob with is a pretty reasonable interpretation of one of the prophecies is, now that the Theronys have
00:52:15
Speaker
taken out the head of the Boromar clan, we cannot allow Alira to rise up and take his place as the head of it, is the way she has interpreted this prophecy. We had a question, I'll let you, Eric, if you would like to, do you have it in front of you, the actual prophecy? I typed it up on my computer. Oh, yeah, I do. I'm using a different one right now.
00:52:38
Speaker
You want me to read it? Please. When the head of the silver dragon has their heart torn asunder by the severed head of the Hydra's bite, if the next generation ascends, then the blue sky will grow absent as the hand of destruction rises again. There you go. Yeah. Clear as day. Clear as a blue sky. Hmm.
00:53:08
Speaker
and so I will say writing something like that is hard because um like you you have to because yeah the Toronto prophecy is like a series of if then statements of if this happens and this happens then this will happen then if this happens and they they end in like overlord released into the world um and it
00:53:33
Speaker
it very intentionally, like Jeff said, is open to interpretation oftentimes in like a very famous example that Keith Baker uses a lot of times is relating to the Bear King because that's like King Borenel's nickname and demeanor is the King of Breland so it might be about him or it might be
00:53:55
Speaker
like the main bear in the Eldean reaches or an awakened bear that crowns themselves king. It could be any of those things that it relates to. You just have to figure out which bear king they're talking about. And to somebody that is an Eberron nerd, what I just read
00:54:13
Speaker
Uh, 90% of it is painfully obvious. Um, but except for the hand of destruction, cause I made that part up. Um, but I made my own overboard. Um, but yeah, so it's hard to do something that's opaque while at the same time making sense in the context of the world. So, I will say Laura asked in the, um,
00:54:39
Speaker
in the discord, one of their questions was, why is Boromar, why is the silver dragon Boromar in the prophecy? And it's just their symbol, right? Is the silver dragon? Yeah, their icon is the silver dragon perched on a tower.
00:54:55
Speaker
which is from a Dragon Magazine article about the Boromar Clan. Also features that Satan has a really amazing pet that's with him all the time that is his protector, but I had already introduced Satan in the campaign before I read that, or I had already introduced him, then read that and was like, oh, that would be neat, but they've seen him in his house and that wasn't there. So, oh well. So that's just not in my eberron, but the Silver Dragon thing is, yeah, from that article.
00:55:24
Speaker
I mean, if you know that, there's no reason to think that, because it has nothing to do with the Boromar Clan other than Silver Dragons are kind of dope and powerful. So I think I get it. But yeah, so Hob basically signs on to as far as, I agree that we don't necessarily want Allira, who hates us now, to be the head of the Boromar Clan so we can work together on that much of it.
00:55:54
Speaker
And that's really all she asked of you was, yeah, I'll take care of the demon stuff if you take care of the bormar stuff. And then she also said, Hob might have a job if he wants one with the demon hunters. And Hob was like, I'm going to need a little more faith. Y'all are absolutely bonkers first.
00:56:15
Speaker
But yeah, that was the extent of that conversation. And then I believe- But also they live in the demon waste, Jeff. The hob does not want to take that job. It's an outlet. No, no. But it's on the table. Look, a lot of organizations are moving towards being more acceptable, or accepting of remote work, so.
00:56:36
Speaker
Not my profession. Nope. Can't teach remotely. Uh, I mean, obviously it's not as good. I wouldn't want to, but I would like to not go to work every day. Anyway, next up is Eris. Uh, doing the thing, taking the, delivering another criminal to Verla Mordane. Yeah. Eris has a future in law enforcement. You take it back. Yeah.
00:57:03
Speaker
Sure. Everybody's just getting job offers out of this arc. Um, uh, yeah. So, I mean, it's delightful that Eris is the one holding the bag on this. Uh, but in terms of like Eris is the second worst person in this party for this job.
00:57:26
Speaker
I'm the worst. And the only reason that Reynard is the worst is that he would deliberately decide to insult Verla. It's not that Reynard isn't good at what we're going to do. Reynard has the perfect skill set to do this. Reynard's character sheet is ideal for this. It's the fact that Reynard would choose to do it fast. You know friends make fun of each other.
00:57:58
Speaker
You're usually two-sided though, you know, yeah, it's usually a give-and-take sort of thing Anyway, I take things That was Gives you and I couldn't think of a better way to get foot be fit given there
00:58:27
Speaker
But Eris is the only person that's not actively trying to arrest. I give her compliments and she takes me to jail. That's your... Okay, we'll take two, okay? Here we go. Trevor, did you know you were getting notes tonight? Yeah, Eris, as the only person who's not actively wanted by the law, goes... Which does skyrocket her to the best person to do this job. Somehow.
00:58:58
Speaker
I actually think that Eris probably does more low-key illegal things than anyone else in the party. And so it is amusing to me that Eris is the only one not actively sought for arrest in some way.
00:59:15
Speaker
But anyway, Eris takes Vigo, stores Vigo in one of the hidey holes in the walls of the four sails. Ulfin very sweetly makes Eris some food, while Eris has a little panic attack, breakdown sort of thing.
00:59:41
Speaker
Oh, Eris calls Olive to make sure that Olive can trigger the murder death kill mode on Ygric. And then Eris meets with Verla, and Verla immediately betrays Eris' trust.
01:00:01
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Instantly. First opening move. You don't get to decide that, Eric. With the least trustful person in the party, opening move is to make yourself a liar.
01:00:20
Speaker
Once again, how did she do that? The other side of that call that Eris made to Verla was her taking it in Coldor's office, and when Eris is saying, now you're not gonna bring anybody that tries to arrest me, and Coldor is just like, I'm coming, I'm coming. Like. Anyway, Verla brings Coldor. And Eris does not make him happy he came at any point. No, you know what?
01:00:50
Speaker
If you come uninvited to a meeting with Eris, that's what happens. Possibly if you come invited to a meeting with Eris, that's what happens. But Eris does it on purpose if you're not invited, or if you're rude at all, or if she thinks you were rude in some small way. Probably related to goblin etiquette.
01:01:12
Speaker
Anyway, Eris is a punk to Koldor and I use hero points to make Koldor's life worse by deciding that he doesn't speak the second most common language on the continent. What's that? You're an FBI agent working in Texas? Why, no, you don't.
01:01:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, in high school and college, he elected to take French every time for some unknowable reason. Like, I speak English. He took gnome. He always took gnome. Yeah, gnome. Anyway, so Eris can have the conversation privately in spite of Cold War. And I do mean in spite of in the traditional sense of the word. And I like this conversation. It's a really good conversation with,
01:02:07
Speaker
I like the weird relationship between Verla and Eris. I don't know how to describe the relationship between Verla and Eris, but I really enjoy the rare occasion in which they get to interact. And I don't remember when I decided that Eris liked Verla, but somewhere back there I started acting like Eris liked Verla.
01:02:31
Speaker
I don't know exactly where it is. It's probably somewhere in the point at which it's probably when Eris hacks Verla's communicator and Verla just rolls with it. That's probably the point at which Eris decides that Verla's all right.
01:02:47
Speaker
I will say that, oh, joke, good. On the opposite end, Verla, like, once again, at some point, I can't remember his Eric when it was, but Verla began to pick up very overtly on the idea and the feeling that out of the four of you,
01:03:05
Speaker
Eris is the only one that she gets the vibe from does not enjoy being a criminal. Eris seems like the one that has a real distaste for the work that she does for the clan, which has garnered a level of respect in Verla. Verla gets that some people find themselves in situations where they feel like it's their only option. But if they don't revel in it, then yeah. So that's Verla's take on Eris.
01:03:35
Speaker
And two Verlas to that point. There's only really two members of our team that Verla interacts with in depth a lot, like she's talked with Hob, but it's Eris and Reynard, and Reynard rubs Verla's face in his criminal activities. Yeah, and the one real conversation she and Hob had
01:03:58
Speaker
he fully got caught lying to her about murdering somebody. That's not going to be, even though Hob is actually indifferent towards the criminal lifestyle, he does not relish in it. He straight up lied to her about murdering somebody. So I get it. The bar, the bar isn't high is what I'm saying. And Milo grew up thinking, Hey, police bad. Yeah.
01:04:19
Speaker
You know, I mean, Verla is an earnest and reasonable and competent person, and that is probably a breath of fresh air for Aeris to spend time with. I get that. Yeah. So it makes sense. I like the dynamic a lot. Yeah, I do too. Aeris latches on to positive female role models. I've just realized. Good for her. Right. It is way better for her to look up to Verla than anyone else she interacts with.
01:04:50
Speaker
And I'm saying that about an FBI agent, or a police officer. So going into this conversation, the thing I had to work out was, why does Eris like Verla? Because Eris doesn't like people in the same way that people like people. And so that's what I came up with. Verla is straight. Verla does her duty. She's not corrupt. She's not on the take.
01:05:21
Speaker
abusing people with her power. She's a cop that intends to make the city a better place through her office. And so the opening of this conversation was the only part of it that I really thought about much ahead of time was the conversation about Aerys feeling that she owes a debt to Berla's
01:05:52
Speaker
honorable behavior. And so that was kind of where I decided why Eris admires Verlo. But I was not at all prepared for the negotiating part of this really because I had no idea what was going to be on offer or what to ask for. So eventually Cold War comes into this and we find that surprise, surprise,
01:06:18
Speaker
The feds are interested in arranging a cooperative replacement for Satan. And if Eris would help in that, she would receive a blank check. And Eris immediately shows how low to the ground her dreams are.
01:06:43
Speaker
It was shallow but broad. You asked for a lot of small things. Yes. I didn't have a big thing to ask for. Okay, stop being horrible to the people where I live. I really tried to go down the list of what do my friends need. I really did try to think of something that Raynard would need.
01:07:11
Speaker
from the Dark Lanterns. And I was just like, criminal record expunged maybe? I have a bet. He's just going to build a new one. Right. What would be the point? It would just be a fresh start.
01:07:29
Speaker
My favorite cast was asking the FBI agent to stop McDonald's from putting in a franchise across the street. And I tried to play it both like Koldor acknowledging the power that Dragon Mark houses have, but also him going, I don't even know how I would do that.
01:07:50
Speaker
Nobody's ever asked me to do this before. He's reading a list and he's like, what does keep Lower Mint this weird mean? I don't even have it. I got no jurisdiction there. So like what it came down to, like Eris has an extremely transactional view of friendship.
01:08:09
Speaker
People have done things for me and I owe them. And as Eris sees it, she just owes a lot. Like she owes Milo and she owes Hob and she owes Olive and she owes Ulfin.
01:08:26
Speaker
You know, maybe that's why she doesn't come up with anything for Reynard, because all of, Eris does not feel that she owes Reynard anything. I, Philip, love Trevor and enjoy playing with him. Just feel that I should say that. That is important. Say that Trevor, get along really well. Yes. And so it was, okay, what are the problems of my friends? And I couldn't think of anything for all of either, really, it's like,
01:08:54
Speaker
You reinstate, well, all of what didn't get fired. So it's not like reinstate Olive at Moore grave. And if we take care of all of the other nonsense, then all of safety won't become a thing. So, but yes, take care of Ulfin, take care of Hobb, take care of Milo. My favorite is absolutely asking the CIA to build a bar for my buddy.
01:09:15
Speaker
Yeah. I enjoyed that. Mostly because it's such a bad idea. Why would, why would, why would Milo want a bar built for him by the dark lanterns? That's so bad. It won't be bugged. We promise. Building a bar for a known criminal. No. No secret points of entry in here. No, sir. Definitely not.
01:09:46
Speaker
And then Eris criticizes Koldor's code making abilities because she's Eris. She can't quit while she's behind. She cannot. I will say I liked a lot of things in this conversation, but I really liked the little coda that Eric stuck on the end with Koldor asking, why did you do it?
01:10:10
Speaker
I don't even remember if we clarified what he means. It was fairly obvious to me that he meant why did she burn him real bad. What was that answer? My friends were in trouble. Good stuff. I loved that because it was such a nice encapsulation of Eris' entire social worldview. There's this group of people that I will do anything for and everybody else can go hang. Yeah.
01:10:43
Speaker
I find myself creeping towards that myself in real life. But I believe firmly that it was enormous character growth that Eris on her list was the whole population of High Walls. That it was, here is a community of people, I can do something good for them, even though Eris most certainly doesn't like everybody in High Wall. Right.
01:11:10
Speaker
But being able to look at the group and say, despite their best efforts, they are maligned. We can fix this. Well, and to the point you were talking about before, Eris doesn't feel like she owes them anything. There's not that transactional aspect of it. It's just something that Eris sees as wrong. Yeah. Yes. It is absolutely an evolution of her morality. And I think
01:11:36
Speaker
You know, we didn't explore this exactly, but I think part of her original, I'm gonna go fix everything in Highwall started back in the theater arc when we went to Highwall and she was like, oh, I am not the worst off Chiron. Oh, sure. And so there was definitely some, not really at all justified
01:12:02
Speaker
sense of guilt that came into that but yeah it was definitely I like it because it's it's Eris saying this is home which is the point that Koldor's offer of yeah you want to enter you want to enter witness protection I don't know I didn't listen to all the other ones because I'm really hoping that I'm going to enjoy discovering that we all made incompatible promises to various parties
01:12:32
Speaker
Um, but yes, that, that offer, uh, no, that doesn't interest Paris at all. I don't want to leave. I'm talking about, which is such a nice place to bring her to from where we started with every other episode. She was like, I think we should leave Sean. Yeah. Storm reaches lovely this time of year. That's interesting that you didn't listen to the other ones. I listened to you and Randy's episode within 10 minutes of it dropping. I think I had started it. I really wanted to hear what was going on, but yeah.
01:13:03
Speaker
I mean, obviously, I was there for Randy's. Right. And then Eric, not the two highly competent law enforcement officers, Eric forgot to get the body. And so Eric's very kindly said, do you want Vigo? And he's like, ah, crap. Well, yes. Eric's had this panic thought that they're going to leave me with Vigo. And if they leave me with Vigo, I'm going to kill him. Yeah. You don't have to keep him, or you don't have to take him, but I'm not keeping him. Yeah.
01:13:33
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I can't just leave him in the bar. If you don't take it, I'm just going to throw it away. So you may as well take it home and eat it later. And Randy. Yep. Let's get into your turn. Let's go to meet Tarvel and is trying to figure out how to approach Tarvel. And I kind of decided with the story point that
01:14:02
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Eric allowed me to use thanks to Philip's human character that
01:14:10
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Tarvel was a regular at keg bottoms and Milo was in the habit of giving certain regulars, especially Boromar clan regulars, a bottle of their favorite alcohol upon occasion. So he decided to take Tarvel some Fireburst wine. And then he, what is it? What was the spell? Mimic? Mask.
01:14:35
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Mask that mimic mask. Yes. And. Went and rather easily got into Tarvel's office and. Produced the fire burst wind and it was easy to get in, I guess, because it was the doc saying the docs are super busy. So not much. Not many people paying attention anyway. Oh, he tapped on the window, didn't he? Yeah. And like just you saw Tarvel in there and yeah.
01:15:02
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Yeah, he motioned him in and he went in and Tarble was like a little puzzled like who's this guy and Milo produces the Fireburst wine and then they have a conversation. And basically tells him everything that happened with Vigo by giving him the recording, finds out,
01:15:30
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that Viggo is Tarble's son. That was big. That was big for me. And Aaron's son. Yeah, I was like, what? I think I had muted myself throughout this, but I was like, oh, no. It was kind of nice, because I was kind of giggling. And I was like, what are you guys doing? And Corin's brother, right? Corin's the other sibling, correct? Yes.
01:16:00
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So that was like, whoa, okay. And then I was like, oh gosh, I'm awfully sorry. About everything. So I don't know how you tell you this. About your son. He ain't dead.
01:16:24
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Milo gets asked, I believe, uh, how, how is it? How stupid are you feeling? Was that, was that it? Are you feeling, how stupid are you feeling? And Milo's like, my whole life, these, this past year has been awfully stupid. Usually it's part of the course. What's different? So yeah. And then he produces, uh,
01:16:47
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very rough draft of a place called the Dreadhold where Erin is stowed away. And I must say from the very first time that we found out that she was in the Dreadhold, I was thinking, Oh man, are we going to get to go there at some point? Because I think back to when I, was it a game Philip ran?
01:17:12
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where we actually got to go to the Dreadhold. And I was thinking, in my mind, I'm going to go back there. That could be cool. That could be so much fun. And then he produces in this episode this little vignette with a rough sketch of the Dreadhold and asks Milo if he's feeling stupid. And Milo is definitely feeling stupid.
01:17:39
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And I think that was it that happened in there. Did I miss anything? That is how it ended. Yeah, that was the end of the episode. And then I shot a text to the group that said, Hodge, what did you guys know? Hob is feeling really stupid. And Philip and Randy, who were the two that were there, were both like, what happened? What's wrong? What's wrong? Guy, do you remember that it was a thing? Which I love that my friends were concerned for me. That was really sweet. But I was like, come on, fellas.
01:18:06
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Well, I was thinking, I didn't listen to Hobb's episode, so what did Hobb say that we contradicted or something? Knowing that now, it makes a lot more sense, yes.
01:18:19
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Yeah, the only other big thing, I think this was from a triumph or something or advantages, but Lady Briar is definitively on your side as a result of Maya's conversation. And you all know that in terms of that conversation. But yeah, that was a fun...
01:18:38
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It was a fun reveal having Viggo being Tarvel's son kind of sitting there for a while. It would have been way different if Milo had killed Viggo in the previous scene. Yeah, that thought immediately ran across my mind. The one thing you didn't ask about that I was shocked, Randy. Hey, Tarvel, what's with the telepathy?
01:19:05
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Like that was the only thing that never came up. As soon as we, as soon as we, I got off, I was like, Oh crap. Cause I thought about it.
01:19:18
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when we first started. And then I totally zoned out on it. No, and I totally get it. You were getting bombs dropped and like, like, yeah, V goes, my son, here's a map of the Dreadhold. You want to go break into it. So no, I get that not being a priority. But yeah, that was just a funny thing as we stopped recording. I was like, well, I'll leave these notes for another session. Right. But I fully, when we started and determined that I was going to Tarvel, I thought, OK.
01:19:46
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Ask him about the telepathy stuff. And then once we got going, yeah, I totally forgot. But like you said, some guy was just dropping things on Milo right and left. You're welcome. Well, yeah, and you also found out that Erin is in the Dreadhold because she took the fall. Yes, that's right. She took the fall for Vigo for killing a couple of dark lanterns, I believe. Yep. Yep.
01:20:14
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Like what was she thinking? The love of her mother, I think you said. Yep. All right. It is question time.
01:20:28
Speaker
I'm just going to rip through them in the order they were asked. We're not going to... Okay. First up, besides the longest question about the Silver Dragon, Shelby asks, he wants to know from Philip, how long have you been holding that one hand comment in your back pocket? I believe you said something to the effect of, would it be easier to answer our questions if you only had one hand or something to that effect? Since the very day that it happened again,
01:20:55
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No, very much since, well, I had not written the line down. I did not have that line prepared for this. But ever since Eris had to mechanically fix her hand, I had been excited by the possibility of having an answer to that question.
01:21:22
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Well, and it was fun as a character because Eris was scared by Viggo and she absolutely hates being scared. It's like the worst thing ever. And so, you know, getting to invert that was very much nice for her. But I didn't have the line in my pocket exactly, but being able to come up with a snappy rejoinder to that thing that he said to her months and months and months ago was definitely nice.
01:21:52
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Okay, and the next question from Laura, I'm gonna, I just want you guys to... Well, she'll be having another question. Oh, I'm so sorry, you're right. She'll be having another question. Has the demon issue been a thing in the background since the other demon hunters showed up, or even the whole time, or was that just more of a recent choice by you, Eric? No, it's been in the background, maybe not the whole time, maybe not from session one, but certainly the vast majority of the campaign has been an element at play.
01:22:21
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Okay, so this question is not directly about this arc. I'm asking it now just so those of you that hadn't seen this question from Laura can get an idea of the sorts of questions we're going to be asked at the end of this campaign for the grand review. Let's start with the assumption that the multiverse reveal was done to explain how the cabbie from campaign one has made an appearance in campaign two. Obviously, that's why Eric came up with it.
01:22:45
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Is campaign 2 cabbie a different version of campaign 1 cabbie or is campaign 1 cabbie and campaign 2 cabbie the same person and involved in a very very long time jump and get rich slowly scheme involving charging exorbitant amounts of gold for cab rides? I might paraphrase these in the future. Does he have a love of driving sky cabs and wants to experience how it is in every multiverse? Did Draconos and Beric ruin his sky cab in the way that they did to convince him to leave his whole entire reality for a new one?
01:23:13
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I mean, now the cabbie has to be our Stan Lee. I mean, just the shows up in every campaign in some capacity. But I, Laura, you have given the cabbie a lot more thought than I have, and I'll just leave it at that. If you were to ask the three of us that were involved in campaign one, which character we'd like to see continue into all the other campaigns, one of the last names we would say, I believe, would be the cabbie. Yeah, I wouldn't even have thought of the cabbie.
01:23:41
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I have one cabbie voice. That's what happened is I have one New York cabbie voice and that's what comes out. That's the other thing is you have to remember that Eric continues to insist that these are all different people. So we need to remember the next campaign to at least hail a cab one time. Yeah. So who's taller? Until I say otherwise, these are Laura questions. Who's taller, Hob or Jack Reacher? Hob. Jack Reacher's cooler, smarter, Hob's taller.
01:24:12
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Episode 128, at the beginning of the party, Trevor, okay, there's no way he remembers this. At episode 128, at the beginning of the party, Trevor held back whatever chaotic thing it was he wanted to do. And I, and every person who listened, desperately want to know what it was, please and thank you. Do you recall this, Trevor? At the very beginning of the Unity of Dinner episode, you said, Raynard's probably, oh no, never mind, I don't wanna say that.
01:24:36
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and then moved on. Is there any idea, any chance that you remember what you were going to do with these? Well, okay. So I honestly think, because wasn't it my idea that Solomon Callaway showed up? It was because of a despair. I said that because my idea was I want to go find Solomon Callaway and talk to him. Just assuming he was at the party. Okay.
01:25:04
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Much like Randy establishes in fiction that's dropping over to the party early, Trevor will establish that Solomon Calloway is everywhere that Rainard is from here on out. I don't like Yell's establishments. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Okay. Can I establish that Hob has theme music whenever he enters a room? That he wants it, importantly.
01:25:34
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Why is it that no one thinks Alira can lead the Klan? You skipped a question. Well, we'll come back to it. Let's just do this one. Why is it that no one thinks Alira can lead a Klan? She's never done it before. Her time on the city council has not instilled a whole lot of confidence in her ability to lead a large organization. Also, she's a politician, not a criminal.
01:25:59
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And so, insert 90s joke about those being the same thing, waka waka. Yeah, 90s. Thank God we fixed that in the last 30 years. 90s was 10 years ago, Jeff. So, explain all this gray hair and back paint.
01:26:20
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Hard living, baby. So yeah, I mean, it's a culmination of all these things that she has not been in the clan to learn how the clan functions to work her way up the way somebody like Viggo had. If Viggo were to step up and take over the clan, people wouldn't be stoked about that, but they would have more confidence that he would be competent at it than Alira, who is just coming in as an outsider because of her last name, getting this position of power over a lot of people who have established themselves within the clan.
01:26:46
Speaker
Also, she's a hothead and she like is got a violent streak to her. And a lot of more things will become apparent as the campaign continues. But that's the initial reasons. Yeah, I mean, as far as we ever saw, Satan for being the head of a large, vicious criminal organization was a measured person, it felt like, which was interesting.
Olive, Vigo, and Career Choices
01:27:08
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I don't know how closely we did. We examined the sides of meat that was hanging in his office. Fair enough.
01:27:15
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Yeah, Hob hasn't done the meat calculus yet to realize that he's no longer in the beginning. Okay, Laura continues. Actually, Laura said this earlier, as Eric pointed out. Alla says she's never been to a friend dinner thing at someone's house before. And I just need to know if she's talking about unity dinner specifically, or if she's never been invited over to a friend's house. I mean,
01:27:37
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Olive's married to the job, like she loves teaching, she loves artifice, she like, she probably, Eris is probably the first genuinely close friend outside of her brother that she's had and her brother, relationship with her brother is pretty strained because the whole Callaway mill hatch stuff going on. So no, like Olive isn't a get invited over to friend's house for dinner and hang out, like she's got too much to work on and too much to do and too much research and papers to write and et cetera, et cetera.
01:28:06
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And she's still better at it than Eris. Okay, why did Vigo send this crew after the Ledger in Fallen, knowing that it was Kylie's Ledger? Was that...
01:28:22
Speaker
Or did they continue? Did he not know? I assume he did since he already knew it was Kylie being a secret agent. Well, this was him covering up because there was the ledger that Kylie had. And this is that ledger. But it also, it was starting to resurface, which is why Grum got thrown under the bus in an actual way. That was right after Grum got demoted.
01:28:46
Speaker
and sent down into the cogs. So it was an extension of that. And Vigo is a petty person. So it was amusing to him to send Grum's old crew to go cover up the evidence that got Grum sent down into the cogs. Because Vigo's mean. So. Okay.
01:29:08
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Why did Verlick keep letting Raynard go when he doesn't have house connections? In one of the earlier cold opens, she said something along the lines of, this time I have to keep you overnight, but if he has no one protecting him and they know he does crimes, just arrest him? It sounded like he started right away before he could have had Boromar protection.
01:29:25
Speaker
Well, he's always been a member of the house before he got kicked out. And at least in the timeline that Trevor spoke about, it was a pretty quick turnaround from being kicked out of the house to moonlighting with the Klan, as it were. And I mean, Verla's MO is protecting the people that need protecting in this city.
01:29:46
Speaker
Reynard being a petty criminal against like the rich and powerful that we saw in a flashback is not something like if Verla is going to have to put her career on the line to bring somebody to justice for stealing a diamond from one of the wealthiest people in the city that's not a fight that's not a hill she's gonna die on it's just the shift has been
01:30:05
Speaker
her district of the city somebody was murdered on the street in front of people who are witnesses to the crime and that's where the bridge too far becomes but yeah verla knew
01:30:18
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doing the calculus of like taking a stand on bringing Raynard to quote unquote justice wasn't worth it back then because Raynard was a petty thief. Well, petty and air quotes. Um, but yeah, that's, that, that's the reasoning for it. So, okay.
01:30:39
Speaker
And I have lost the page. OK, now some questions from Crow. They asked, did you find it ironic that the body you thought the body you were going to find was Aces? I'll be honest, I'm not sure which one of us said that. It could have been me, but did one of us mention that we were afraid we were going to find Aces dead body somewhere? I remember that joke, but I don't remember who said it.
01:31:02
Speaker
I listen today, and I'm afraid I'm pulling a blank on this. But yeah, I mean, if we were making jokes about Ace being dead, and then a very important person ends up dead at the end of the arc, that is some serious irony, and I'm sure we felt it in the moment. Crowe continues. Will Raynard ever use the hand Fletcher again? Now that you've got your wild bow and arrow. What I remember.
01:31:32
Speaker
So no. You gotta write it down on your characters. I just want to say that, you know, since people can't see this. A roll of skullduggery to steal the hand Fletcher back. Yeah, for the people who can't see this, Philip kind of has this look of disappointment, disgust. What are Rayner's thoughts? No, that was one of those, how dare you not use that Fletcher. I think that was it.
01:32:02
Speaker
It's definitely what it is. What are Raynard's thoughts about being back in the family, Trevor? I think I touched on it a little bit earlier. Nervous? He's just super nervous around his dad. I mean, that's probably the main feeling is a little bit of like, well, what's going to happen? Just kind of on your toes.
01:32:31
Speaker
Yeah. Randy, how does Milo feel knowing there's a good chance the Boromar Clan is done? And I'm going to add to Crow's question, is Milo considering that the Boromar Clan might be done? Or is Milo thinking this will wash, this will blow over? Milo and Randy are of the same mind. I believe that he's scared that the Boromar Clan might be done, but he wants to do whatever he can to prevent that.
01:33:02
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Hence his absolute willingness to go to the Dreadhold. Yeah, he's scared that it definitely could be, but he wants to prevent it if he can, or help in whatever way. All right. And how's Sigil doing, Eric?
01:33:24
Speaker
They're great, you know, just hanging out with some friends, making some plans. No big deal, though. Just, you know, planning some things, doing some stuff. Great. They might be calling soon. They might be calling in for some help, but we'll have to wait and see. The better call before we take a trip. Yes. Yeah, Eric is lying to you, Crow. I mean, he might be telling the truth, but it's a lie of omission.
Disney Princess Discussions?
01:33:52
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And last question for all of us, who's your favorite Disney princess? Ariel. Mulan? Does she count as a Disney princess? Eric, you know the rules. She's canonically, yep. Sorry. I do not have a favorite Disney princess. How dare you, Andy? Well, I will say this. If I had to pick a favorite, it's going to have to be
01:34:21
Speaker
Belle from Beauty and the Beast, simply because I believe my daughter was like four or five years old when that came out. And I think she's still, that's still probably her favorite, because Belle likes books as I recall. And I believe she's the only princess with hazel eyes. And that's not because I know that, and I only know that. It is because I know that, but only because my little girl drove me nuts with Belle.
01:34:51
Speaker
A quirky older father. Yes, that's true. Yes Some people call him is Because he speaks Okay, I'll start back I got the next error on my own all right Disney princess number one No, that's probably is my favorite but since Randy said it I'm gonna say Rapunzel I
01:35:20
Speaker
A little bit of New Age Disney Princess, but... Okay. I also quite like Rapunzel, that's what I was gonna say. My understanding, I know there's an official criteria for being a Disney Princess, but I looked it up to see...
01:35:42
Speaker
Honorary Disney Princess is Elena of Avalor, which was a Disney Junior television show that I watched with my kids when they were little, and that just fills me with a lot of happiness. So if I can count her, Princess Elena of Avalor is my favorite Disney princess. Wait, so does Belle count as a princess? Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, Belle is a princess. Princess in the question is not capitalized, which means you can go with a non-canonical, not capital D Disney, capital P, princess TM. Yes, you marry the prince at the end, right?
01:36:12
Speaker
Yes. You have to be born royalty, married royalty, or commit an act of great heroism, which was added so that Mulan could be a Disney princess. So they could put Mulan in the package set? Yes. Famously, though, Ana and Elsa from Frozen not canonically Disney princesses. Because they are unwed? No, that can't be it. Because they make too much money on their own. They don't want to pack them for the princesses. They want to be able to sell frozen gear separate.
01:36:44
Speaker
Hey, good for them, man. No, that sucks, I'm joking. Did anybody answer? Yep. Okay, we shall move on then. Let me jump to the other page for the rest of the questions and we're almost done. Two more.
01:37:04
Speaker
Becca would like Trevor, not Trevor. You know what, Trevor, give it a shot.
Tasha's Transformations
01:37:08
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Becca would like for Phillip to give a physical description of Tasha in her various forms. Color size identifying features are the three that she said specifically. So after we were, I mean, I'm going to give you a physical, I'll give you the answer, but I'm also going to post a couple of pictures in our Discord after this because that is how I describe things.
01:37:30
Speaker
Tasha as a ship is about 30 foot of deck and sleek with maneuvering wings and a canvas tail and rudder. She's got metal decorational along in this sort of flowing electric blue vine pattern is a sort of medium brown with bronze and blue
01:38:00
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Highlights. Tasha as a bird is mostly made of mithril because it's light and flexible. She's shaped like a falcon and has bronze-colored highlights for feather patterns and the patterns around a falcon's eye. And in the bird form,
01:38:30
Speaker
Tasha's chest, there's essentially a socket for the dragon shard that holds Tasha herself so that it can be quickly inserted so that Tasha can take over the bird chassis when she's not flying the ship. OK. I don't think I realized Tasha was 30 feet. That's a pretty decent size. I have a miniature of Tasha, and that's how many grid spaces the deck is, which
01:39:00
Speaker
Nice. Nice. That is bigger than I was imagining as well, but I like it. I like knowing that now. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, it's a ship, so it's not a... I know we often talk about getting into Tasha, but it's not a flying car. Yeah. I always pictured it as like a large rowboat. Like a double wide dugout canoe. Oh no, she's cooler looking than that. Sure. I'm at size wide. I know she's cooler over here. 15 feet or so, somewhere around 15 feet.
01:39:30
Speaker
But think about just from a perspective of us actually like fitting and maneuvering ourselves on a 15 foot long piece of wood in the sky. We'd be very crowded.
Family Drama and Warmth
01:39:41
Speaker
Okay, what sort of conversations, Irene asks, what sort of conversations happened with Kath and Sana's family after the party? I'm hoping Katharine gave everyone an earful for ditching her to host alone. I hope she didn't. Eric, role play it out now. Yes, I want to hear it. Okay. Solo episode, go. No, I mean, Katharine certainly gave Malind and Drother what for.
01:40:05
Speaker
Kath probably didn't come home that night. Kath has a place that she goes after doing the nocturnal activities that she enjoys doing where she can rest and recover away from prying eyes. You made her sound like a werewolf. I want to make sure you know you made her sound like a werewolf. I'm laughing at Trevor's face. That's all I'm laughing at. Yeah, Trevor's face was pretty outstanding there.
01:40:32
Speaker
She has a secret hideout, like just. A lair, she's a lair. A lair. And then Sana was on the verge of an emotional meltdown, so no, Catherine did not give Sana what for, because Sana's trying her best. So Catherine probably let Sana sit and talk for a while, and made her some tea, and they had a lovely mother-daughter moment. So, yeah.
01:40:58
Speaker
Do you mail in a drop or have separate couches when they're both in trouble or do they have to share one? It might be a pull out.
01:41:09
Speaker
I have no idea how polycules work, and I'm sorry if that was offensive to anybody. I genuinely am. But I can't not say things when they come into my head. It's a problem. So last questions. There are two. We're going to clunk them
Personal Preferences and Geek Pantheon
01:41:21
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together. Becca wants to know what your favorite popcorn topping is, and Shelby would like to know what your favorite type of nut is. Flame had a very good joke about your favorite type of nut condiment topping as well, which I thought was funny. I was confused because I was thinking, do people put condiments on nuts? Is that a thing? What?
01:41:37
Speaker
If you put a bunch of caramel on peanuts, it becomes a payday, and I'm a big fan of that. OK. My favorite popcorn toppings is just, I mean, any sort of those cheese-flavored powders you get at the grocery store, they're fantastic. They're salty as crap and bad for me. Philip disagrees very dramatically with his face. But Ferris and I can pop a bag of popcorn, sprinkle. We don't put a ton of it on, because it is really salty. And then we would just house that bowl in seconds.
01:42:07
Speaker
A distant second is Nori. I really like seaweed and popcorn. I learned about it in Japan when I was over there, and it's fantastic. Oh, and my favorite nut, just peanuts. I don't really, I'm not a big fan of peanuts. I like an almond. So, yeah, almonds. No, I'm going out of order. Almonds are my favorite nuts on my popcorn. I like to put M&Ms on it. So it's more like in it, not on it.
01:42:39
Speaker
Well, they start on a topic, but they kind of fall to the bottom. So they get in it. And then you shake it. All my stew toppings, beef, potatoes. Fine. Salt. No, I get the great answer. I think mixing is my answer. Trevor's favorite sandwich ingredient is white bread.
01:43:10
Speaker
All right, who next? I like lots of butter and plenty of salt in the popcorn and all the nuts. It's hard to pick. I mean, I'm not big on the Brazil's or the hazelnuts. I like the more flavorful cashews, pistachios, pecans, but nuts. I like nuts. It's like a nut cutter server here.
01:43:42
Speaker
I don't like the tone of your voice, Trevor. Philip's about to burst a blood vessel, I think. He's laughing so hard. I'll tell you why after. Yeah, I'll take my answer off, Mike. Butter and salt on popcorn, the powder, I'm just, ugh, the powders, really?
01:44:05
Speaker
I took butter and salt as a given. I apologize. I thought those were like your baseline and then you add things on top of it. Please continue. Butter and salt is all you need. Exactly. And, uh, I mean, I eat peanuts more than anything else, but pecans are really good.
01:44:25
Speaker
But it's a very expensive snack, so. My favorite nut is almonds. I especially like the Blue Diamond flavored almonds, like the Wasabi ones are really good. And favorite popcorn topping is hot sauce. It's really good. Just try it sometime. What? Don't look at me like that, Phillip. No, I can give that a shot. With butter?
01:44:52
Speaker
I mean, light butter, light salt. I don't like popcorn dripping wet until I put the hot sauce on it. I'm gonna give that a shot. It's like potato popcorn. Okay. Thank you all for putting up with us. That was our last question. We will be back next week with... Best condiment is mustard.
01:45:15
Speaker
It's obviously cinnamon sugar. So we'll be back next week with the start of a new arc. Who knows what's going to happen? It's kind of crazy. I have an idea. Please interact with us. You can do so in several places. We have a Facebook page, a Twitter profile. We have a TikTok. You can find all of those at the Geek Pantheon. Our Discord link is
01:45:41
Speaker
It's in the bio of all three of those, yeah? Or the bio where there's a bio. So you can find our Discord link there. It's free to join. There are some Patreon channels that anyone can join and come be a part of the community. If you're interested in the Patreon, patreon.com slash the Geek Pantheon, tier start as low as $1. And then lastly is Eric has a YouTube channel, search for the Geek Pantheon, where he does a lot of DM stuff. And then Phillip has his, I'm pointing at them in the thing. Phillip has the,
01:46:11
Speaker
Another YouTube channel, search for The Laughing Tree on that channel. You will find the Kyber Shards actual play DM by Phillip, played in by Eric and others. And I think that's it. We have merch at thegeekpantheon.com. That's definitely it. We'll be back next week for podcast. Roll initiative. Goodbye. I've been Jeff. And I'm Eric. I have a really good hair day.
01:46:40
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I'm Randy.