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Nonsensical Network
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Speaker: what a great song whata What's going on everybody? Happy Monday. Happy victory Monday. If you're a football fan and your, your team won this weekend or maybe, maybe it just won a battle you've been dealing with and you need a victory. So happy victory Monday to you. What's going on? Hopefully you guys had a good weekend. Welcome to men carrying four men.

Speaker: It is a nonsensical network. She got Connor and myself. You guys know me. I'm Glick in the building. You know what the nonsensical network is and you don't know who I am by now. Then you're either blind or deaf or both, because I'm literally here. Five of the seven days, six of the seven days a week, doing something.

Speaker: But this is men caring for men. It's um ah men's mental health show. We like to talk about things that revolve around men's mental health. And actually we started doing this not too long ago. Let me go ahead and drop this. What's going on? John, it is an open panel and open forum. We do want to extend an invite to any men that are out there that, um,

Speaker: want to. Come up and be a part of the show, take part in a discussion or the conversation and or. We got something on your chest, something on your mind, something weighing heavy on you and you want to come up and talk about it. You are more than welcome to do so. As I said. Let's be honest, get out, get it off, get it off. Makes it hard.

Speaker: Makes it hard to breathe. Hey Connor, do me a favor, wipe your camera off real quick. Not what you appreciate.

Speaker: damn che it's Just make it worse. I'll be right back. You finished the intro. I'm going to go grab one of my ones. It's like, why do you have mental health problems? Have you met my co -hosts?

Speaker: But no, uh, if you're not, if you're not following the, uh, nonsensical network while shame on you. And if you haven't heard of us, we'll shave on us. We are everywhere. We're on Facebook, Instagram, X and tick tack. We also do shows live Monday through Sunday right here on YouTube, Twitch, Facebook, and now rumble. Yes, we are. We're, we're.

Speaker: We're in, in the rumble waters. We're checking them out. We're testing them out. A few fellow broadcasters that I know use rumble and they seem to really like it. And I figured, you know what? Why not, why not us give it a try as well? It seems to be a good platform. So I could be wrong. I don't know. We're just, we're, we're, we're checking it out. But you can also listen to us anytime, any place, wherever you listen to podcasts that we are on all of them podcasting platforms.

Speaker: All at the nonsensical network or you can simply go to bio dot link slash nonsensical network And all those links will be there including link to our merch if you're interested in that That's some pretty cool shirts and hoodies up there hoodie season is right around the corner. Ladies and gentlemen So get yourself a nice, uh, nonsensical network or nonsensical nonsense hoodie, uh

Speaker: And I feel like I'm forgetting something.

Speaker: But yeah, give us a follow, give us a like, give us a share. I feel a little like. To answer your question, yes, you are giggling. I don't know, if but you're kind of the sturdier. It's just the blinding light behind. Is ladies standing behind you?

Speaker: oh Oh, oh yeah. That's better. Yeah. oh that's the lot yeah That's nice. why starting That's one this one of my like weird, uh, what are you doing? but This is what happens when we don't have a topic on Monday night. Um, no, what's going on, John? How are you doing today, brother? Actually we can get right into that. John asked, uh, we, yeah, we really didn't. Uh, you know what? Um,

Speaker: I kind of dropped the ball on that. I was pretty busy at work. Well, I have been pretty busy at work the last few days. Um, and, and, uh, I actually came home and fell asleep. I was going to go to the gym, but I think I had one of them, uh, like a stress headache, you know, where it like starts in your shoulders and go all the it goes all the way up into like the back of your head. And I came home and took some, uh, Tylenol and laid down on the couch. I went to the what? What?

Speaker: I didn't say anything about you going to a guy named Jim. What? That's on, that's on Thursdays and Fridays.

Speaker: Now, so I sat out of our car and I fell asleep. So I was, when I woke up, I had to get this ready. And then I was also doing stuff for tomorrow show that as well, because, uh,

Speaker: got wrapped up in football, man. I want to, a I want to, I actually want to say, man, a huge shout out to, ah you know, well, huge shout out to camp for killing our stream yesterday, again, but shout out to all the guys who are, who are coming up on the panel for week two of unnecessary roughness, the football show, Derek, Derek Wayne is going to be kind of a, well, I think he is, I think he's going to be a permanent fixture there on Sundays.

Speaker: My co -host Cam will be there when he can. And my friend Michael Bathurst popped up yesterday and he said that he would like to come on when he's available. So we run that like and like we do here and like we do Saturdays. It's an open forum. ah So we dropped the link. Anybody who wants to wants to come up. But yeah, shout out, man. and we We had a good time. We had a good football conversation. And man, I got to tell you,

Speaker: it is It is so nice, better than I have been in the, Hey, that's good brother. Good to hear. Good to hear. You know, it's, it's silly. I don't know. Maybe it's silly to some people. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe it's just me. It's nice to be able to have a group of people that you can talk about things that you enjoy. Like I enjoy football and I know like you and Jeff and Blaze aren't sports guys. You like what the Ohio State football is.

Speaker: And that's about the extent of what, you know, your, your sports. Well, I, I love sports. I just don't have the time or energy to put into watching them with, you know, being a father of three small children. Uh, you gotta make your kids fans. Well, my son, my oldest son loves it. If Ohio state's playing or if he sees football on the TV, it doesn't matter who's playing. He's like, is that the Michigan?

Speaker: That's the Michigan. Is that the Michigan? No, we're not, dude. We might be douchebags in Michigan, but we're not V douchebags. Well, that's it makes me so upset because he'll be like, who who does the Ohio State play? I'm like, what did you just fucking say? Who does the Ohio State play today? I want to hit you, but I can't. I want to hit you, but I can't. I can't. I can't.

Speaker: That's funny. I'm going to start. I'm going to start referring to all teams like that. <unk> the Who are the Colts play? Well, that that's actually the correct way to say that. Who are the Colts? I know, but yeah, I know. But when you're going by like a state, who who is the Atlanta playing?

Speaker: Who is the Indianapolis player? Who is the Indianapolis player? Who is the Baltimore player? Because I always say, you know, the Ohio State Buckeyes or the Michigan Wolverines or the Purdue Boilermakers. Who's the Purdue player today? If you're going to say the before the name, then you have to end with the mascot or the team's logo. Like you have to end with that. You haven't made that concept up yet.

Speaker: I was going to say, you know, i I, my kids were little ones and uh, you know, I never, I never missed a beat watching sports. Um, they, you know, as the girls got older, they're not my middle, my middle one buggy. She doesn't give two shits in a fuck about anything in this world. Um, right now she's right now. and She, she went through this outsider's phase and now she's in this Hamilton phase. So I think she's watched Hamilton. She's watched the Hamilton.

Speaker: um the dis we watch for hamilton I watched that about about four or five times in the last like three or four days. vi out and here at the You know how many times Carson was little. We watched **** cars. Can we want I want to watch Lightning McQueen but queen McQueen is the third time today. I'm going to shoot myself. No.

Speaker: See, my kids watch my kids watch the the the shows that drove you crazy. But I was like, you know what? You guys should check this out. You should check out wrestling. oh You guys some much upon sam lets watch your ja watch this. This is cool. i'll See, what i who' mom but i my wife let me fucking do that shit. I turn on football. She's like, you get Saturday. That's it. but Jesus. You got me fucked up. You got me fucked up. I'll see you right now. My is Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker: they're in the kids show phase. So we watched like, yeah, we and fucking, uh, what's the new one lions. So it's like a Lion King spin -off show. They love that shit. What's up cam? You fucking piece of shit. no I could not hold up camera. I could not. He was on my couch last night. You didn't shoot it. Yeah. Well,

Speaker: Yeah. Fucking Nikki left it unlocked. So you got out lucky bastard. Next time I'll make sure it's locked. No, uh, no Saturdays and Sundays have always been my day, but I don't have anybody anymore to like sit down and really talk sports with, but it's, it's nice. like Yesterday it was, we, we actually, the show, we only planned for an hour. We actually did two hours yesterday. Um, and it was, it was fun. It's, it's, it's nice to have that, that, that,

Speaker: I don't know. ah it's ah It's an escape. It's an escape where you can talk shop about something that doesn't matter. And I know that that sounds silly and like I'm making fun of people who enjoy sports, but that's like that. It's something that you can do. Fuck off. Yeah. Yeah, it does. No, I don't live close to Glick on purpose.

Speaker: Because I much like Jeff, I put him in a crate and mailed him away. He can't know because I might go hunting Glick's like, Hey, I'm going to be in this area. And then my phone dings.

Speaker: fuck

Speaker: Now, yeah, it's, it's a nice little escape. I mean, yeah, like what those players do on the field, it doesn't, ah it doesn't affect my life in any way, shape or form, you know? ah ah But it's fun to talk about. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. You know, and, and, and especially with guys who understand, like I could talk football with, with Jeff, but then, and and nothing against Jeff, but then I've got to answer 900 million questions and it's just like, I'm going to go talk to my kid right now. but what and What's a touchdown? yeah yeah yeah Jeff, messaged me. My quarterback got a slam dunk this weekend. What are you talking about?

Speaker: but that should be that should be a new segment on what the fuck news is just who said it my child or Jeff about sports yeah next time i'm over there maybe we can all get together so I can have a cage buddy and I'll let you whoa way easier killer let's say Connor you're what like what four or five hours away from me um I'm probably closer to six um what's going on bench So you're like on the other side of Indiana. Yeah, we're on Evansville. We're in we're in Evansville. We're on the west side. So Okay. Yeah, it's a bit of a pain in the ass. We're on the southwest side. We're essentially I'm skipping a jump away from Illinois. So okay Yeah, gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, you're up there by the big dog, but Mike the But yeah, it's

Speaker: Cam, I would love to visit more often, but it's, it's been a whirlwind of a year, buddy. ah ah You're going to be up here soon for something, aren't you? Uh, I was going to come out for the, uh, for the Irish festival in August and then, uh, my surgery date ended up being a little later. Ah, gotcha. So.

Speaker: ended up having to miss that and then we were gonna, I was gonna come out to come see my brother because he was around last month and we had some shit come up so I couldn't go see him. So we won't be back until the holidays but I think that when we come in for Christmas that we'll be there for about, for a little over a week. We're gonna come the week before Christmas and we're gonna stay through Christmas and probably leave the day after Christmas. e or the after christmas Nice.

Speaker: ah or What's going on? What's going on brother? How you been? Is that Oklahoma state? Um, now, uh, that'd be cool. You have to, we might have to try to do something. Yeah. We can go get some, uh, go get some Christmas beers or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll, we'll just drop the Nikki's off together and be like, here,

Speaker: You guys, you guys hang out together, even though you don't know each other. in your meet twin Have fun in hell. Bye.

Speaker: Or pull up and drop Nikki off and be like, this is your future. Bye. yeah and Then she'll point at you and go, yeah, that's yours. Yeah. No.

Speaker: Um, but uh, how you been, man? We don't, we don't hardly see you on the network hardly anymore. I mean, all right. We were just talking about you. Yours must've been burning. She heard us too machine talking about stopping by and seeing click over the holidays. And, uh, said we were just drop the Nicki's off together. I could point at his Nicki and say, look, it's your future.

Speaker: because she's like 52 or something like that. She's like 52 or something. You guys. I hope she's. No, she I got my earbud in there and and I think her and my my newest video are watching TV. I don't know what they're watching. She's not talking.

Speaker: I don't know if they're watching. Oh, I totally not. please

Speaker: ah but Totally not. Um, no, I was asking you, man. I was like, we, we feel like we hardly get to see you anymore on here on the network. Uh, how, how's things been going? How's, uh, obviously still recovering fine. Uh, you didn't, you didn't lose a limb due to a sizable accident. speaking I can still hear you though. Maybe you can't hear me.

Speaker: who We're just going to sit here quietly and stare at a Nevermind. He's gone. Now I decided this time of year is nice, even though it's like mid September and it's still 900 ,000 degrees out during the day, but the evenings are nice. So I was like, I'm gonna go outside and do the podcast outside. Instead of being in all locked up and stuffy in the, in the bedroom. Hopefully it doesn't get too dark out here. I don't know how well that light behind me is going to work, but we'll, we'll find out at the end of the day. If Connor comes back, we'll, uh,

Speaker: We'll get into the weekly bro check, yeah i'll get past all the banter and stuff like that. Hopefully all you guys out there listening, and hopefully you guys are doing good. I'm sorry, dude. I love it. I just, I don't like being out here when it's super hot bench.

Speaker: Um, and, uh, you know, there might be times in the winter if it's a mild winter day that I'll come out here and do the show.

Speaker: throw a fucking hoodie on and some sweatpants and come out and do the show. Uh, but I, I love being outside. I think that's one thing that I want to look for as well. as in there Well, this is true. I'm in my natural element. More, more rural than your usual, than you're used to.

Speaker: yeah ah It's not as rural as I'm used to, but, uh, but no, I think, I think when we, when we, go, well, you know, we're still in the process of, of looking for something bigger, maybe a house or something to rent. But I'd like to have like a nice patio or a nice back porch that I can come out on and do the show from time to time. Uh, outside of, uh, yeah, camp. Uh, yeah, I was going to, and and i I got your messages earlier. Sorry. I was just swamp busy at work today and I, and and whatnot. Um,

Speaker: Yeah. I was going to ask you about that. I, cause Mickey, I was getting dressed and it won't make you up. And she's like, what the hell was that? And I was like, I think it was camp. And then we both just kind of sat back there and listened for a few minutes and, uh, didn't hear anything else. I was like, well, it must be all right. But, um, no, I like being outside. It's nice. Um, I don't like the fact that every time one of my neighbors pulling up a lot, they're looking at me like I'm a fucking weirdo sitting over here just talking to myself.

Speaker: The end of the day, but what are you gonna do? Ah Yeah, okay, I get you I feel you I know how that works I've been there before brother trust me. I exactly how that goes many year many many many years dealing with that. I assume that's what it was and I didn't hear anything more and I came out and you were sound asleep. So I was like, all right, he must be all right. So I was just going to leave it, up leave it, leave it at that. At the end of the day, I wasn't going to wake you up and disturb you.

Speaker: Nope. I've had those for many years. Um, this is a, I will say that, that this is the first time and and I still get them every once in a great while, but this is a,

Speaker: The last year, a year and a half has been the first time in a long time that my nightmares don't get to me and wake me up in the middle of the night, you know, jumping out of bed or I were a little bit more violent. I would literally jump up out of bed and kind of scream, you know, not like scream like a girl, but and then I would, I would be up for a little bit afterwards because my anxiety and whatnot. So totally get that. I totally understand, man.

Speaker: No stranger to that world. You good now there bubble? I don't know. We'll see. I don't know what the fuck's going on with my internet right now. They put in a spectrum, put in a new drop line. And now ever since they put in a new drop line, it's been fucking with me with my internet speeds. But, uh, anyhow.

Speaker: Yeah. You wake up in the middle of the night, scream a totally manly scream and cry manly tears for about 20 minutes to an hour. It was it was like a Sasquatch roar for me.

Speaker: all the All the woodland creatures would scatter. you know You'd see the birds fly out of the tree. I just had a conversation with ah with my ah youngest son. Today because he's he's he's a very soft gentle quiet personality and I'm cool with that but he's he's overly quiet to the point where but You can't hear him and we get some mu out of my fucking internet keeps doing this oh yeah you fun um So he's like a little ninja creeping through the house

Speaker: Well, the thing is, though, when he gets emotional, he gets quieter. Ah, gotcha. And the tears stream so quick. And I was like, you know, I don't want to beat the tears out of you. That's not a thing. but Like like yeah that would that would make me that would make me a hypocrite on this show. and So that's a little bit aggressive. Well, I don't mean physically actually beating the dead men. Don't cry. Oh, right in the stomach. You're going to keep crying. ra I'll give you a reason to cry. Do you ever hear that one? That one always made me mad. If there wasn't a reason to cry, to dad, then why would I be crying? Yeah. Oh, fuck. well You just spanked me five times. What do you mean with a reason to cry? that was That's a pretty goddamn good reason. I'm seven. But but I was like, I need you to pretend like so. Back back.

Speaker: Like your voice right now is like a little ant and I need you to be a lion because if the lion lets his his emotions be heard. Yeah. You know, and, and nobody knows how the ants feel cause they never speak up enough for people to hear and understand them. Like you need to, you need to be the lion, not because you're always strong or you're always tough, but because you're courageous enough to be heard.

Speaker: 100 % yeah now that's something that and and having some internet issues over there on his end but uh yeah that's something that i've always tried to tell my kids too like you know or you know except for my oldest one i just wish she would be more of an aunt sometimes you shut the fuck up damn Uh, but you know, it's like, Hey, you gotta, you gotta speak up or something. yeah If there's something's wrong, you gotta to speak up. You gotta, you gotta tell people. Yeah. Uh, you can't, uh, you can't let it bottle up and everything like that. You gotta, you gotta to speak up and speak your mind. And I don't know who I am to say that. Cause Lord knows how I like to just keep things inside and bottled up. And, but I have been getting better about it. I will say that.

Speaker: Yeah, so. You know there. There is that. um Yeah, my wife and I had a had a conversation. Last week she was a she's a bit.

Speaker: Oh. They do grow fast man. They do grow fast. I've got a 19 year old or 15 year old and 11 year old. And uh,

Speaker: My 19 year old just graduated last year and it was like Jesus man. I still feels like yesterday. We just brought her home from the freaking hospital Connor we're gonna get rid of it. I don't know if you can hear me or not. We're gonna get ready and take a break if you want to try to restart your routers See if that helps but yeah, man, they grow fast they Time flies man like for real

Speaker: And all we can do is hope we don't screw them up any worse than we are at the end of the day. As parents, we just hope that we don't do. Nice.

Speaker: Yeah. and My oldest one's talking about going to college and starting to talk about moving out. I don't think she'll ever move out, but she might. Maybe we'll see what happens. My middle one's ready to get her learners permit to start driving, starting to learn how to drive. She's got to wait a few more months, but she's ready to get it. Um, and then my boy, he's just happy and content being, being 11, doing what he does. He lives on his own planet. Um,

Speaker: We do a show together here on the network on every other Thursday when they're, when they're here. Um, we do a wrestling show together and that's like become his new, his new favorite thing in the whole world is, uh, I'll do my show tonight. Yeah. It's Thursday, dude. We'll go home, get caught up on what we need to get caught up on on wrestling and then we'll do the show. It'll be taking my spot one day.

Speaker: Yeah, ah yeah, I'm here in the USA. I'm in Ohio Good old Ohio the heart of the ah heart of it all as they say whatever that means But um yeah, we I'll be honest with you guys I'm gonna get ready to take a real quick our first break of the night We didn't really come in here with anything planned I've been kind of

Speaker: busy and and and and whatnot and with 900 different shows and fantasy football. And if hopefully Connor's internet will get to work and we can, we can actually dive into a conversation. Um, but we'll take our first real quick break and I'm going to play this. This is, um, this is ah a JG featuring Jay Valor. Uh, AJG will actually be on the show tomorrow night with me.

Speaker: Um, John, I'm going to address that when, when we come back. I see, I see your comment and I'm going to hit that when we come back. Uh, AJG will be a guest on Glick's house of music tomorrow night at 8 PM. And then next Tuesday, uh, Jay Valor will be hanging out with me. So, uh, this is, uh, they're selling together, knocking on heaven's door and, uh, we'll be back in just a few minutes and hopefully we'll get Connor back in the building. And John, I want to hit that, at that, that topic when you come back, brother.

Speaker: footsteps, stepping gently They don't want me dead, evidently Ask who sent you, they ask who sent me

Speaker: Fearing that the fear ain't just the inner voice Am I just a little boy knocking the heavens door? Did I spend my cause searching for metaphors? Trying to

Speaker: having so they're telling me don't

Speaker: Well, it is dark out here. and I don't have to do something about that. All right. Welcome back. You're having some, uh, interweb issues over there. I should have, uh, grabbed me a little something, something while I was doing the break. Um, there you go. John Mac Max says you can have what it is. Nice Mac Max in Amsterdam. What's going on in Amsterdam? Oh, um,

Speaker: Good song. Yeah. AJG is good, man. he's He's an up and coming rap artist out of the 305. I believe that's Miami. um ah He's got some real good. He's got some real good music out there. He'll be on the show tomorrow night on Glick's House of Music. ah Definitely got a good vibe to him. Got ah got a real good flow to him. I'm excited because I've had one other rapper on the show.

Speaker: um And he's actually my co -host on Sundays now on ah on unnecessary roughness, little shame this shameless plugs ah all over the place. um ah He's a rapper slash country singer, but AJG is a rapper and I'm excited to to have ah have a rapper on the show. I usually get a lot of country and rock artists, um but he'll be on the show tomorrow night. And the other gentleman in the in the video that was playing the guitar, Jay Valor, he'll be on next Tuesday.

Speaker: And then I'm hoping the following week I might have I got to reach out to him, but I might have a friend of mine, a new friend of mine, ah Joshua Lee Nelson on the show. I got to see what his schedule is like. The Nelson. And then after that, we're going to probably have this new band I stumbled across.

Speaker: Cali and the boot and rally. We're going to get them on the show too. So lots of things happening, man. I'm a busy guy, but I ain't mad at it. But anyway, we're not here about that. We're here for men caring for men. It is a men's mental health podcast. Uh, if you're not already, go ahead and check out the rest of the network. There's, there's, there's lots of shows going on. Lots of things happening. Simply go to bio dot .link slash nonsensical network.

Speaker: and All of our links are there so give us follow give us a like and give us a share right before we went to break John said um I always wanted kids and I feel like men with the maternal clocks are looked down on I don't What I say No, no, no, that's what he said and that's what you you you you read it correctly It's just it would be a a man with a paternal flock. I'm being a I'm being a grammar Nazi even though my brain no work either Oh, as opposed to just being a regular Nazi and the other day of the week. Now you're going to be a grandma. nazi not and and not Stop telling everybody that you're going to believe. I think, I think in some aspects to a certain degree, that is, that is very true. But I also believe that it's not as looked down upon as you would think. I think a lot of women, um,

Speaker: at least in my experience and I'm only, you know, I'm only speaking and not like experience from women I've been with. I'm speaking of women in my life. Um, that's not like turned on, like, Oh my God, I want to drop my panties right now, but it is like a, a turn on for them in a way it's in a, they're, they're attracted to men who have a paternal or a maternal, whatever. Um,

Speaker: Uh, they want to be a dad. They want to be a parent. Uh, you know, that's, that's something that attracts them. Um, maybe now more today than in the past yeah with today's generation, it might be looked down upon because not everybody wants to have kids.

Speaker: Oh, that's what's one and a half inches. I'm kidding. I'm kidding Mark. I'm kidding. I'm I'm no bigger. Don't worry. I won't, I won't bust your bullshit. ah I know your, I know your name and I know, I know the struggle. Mack, Mack, trust me. I, these guys yell at me all the time for my, that's why I don't type anything to him anymore. I send voice messages. Oh, that's why. Yeah. Cause you sound way more coherent when you're talking. It's three o 'clock in the afternoon. like There's no way you're drunk.

Speaker: I wasn't, and I'm not. ah

Speaker: Otherwise, you might want to be a doctor. There was a time. There was a time. We've talked about it on here. There was a time, 3 o 'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, I was already, I'd be about a case in, about a case in a bottle in at 3 o 'clock. Sorry. But ah no, I don't think, I don't think, I mean, I don't know what's your opinion on that.

Speaker: Connor, you're you're you're of the younger generation too. Yeah, I think that. So to an extent, whether they're for for the better. but

Speaker: ah Connor's like I'm regretting my decision on wanting kids. I'll be right back. I'm gonna see if I can get some more laid out here. Well, I can still I can still hear you though. Alright, hang on.

Speaker: We'll both just leave at the same time. It's not like we're in the middle of doing anything. I need a beer. It's 159 Tuesday there. Wow. You guys are way and ahead of us.

Speaker: ah

Speaker: Okay. Okay. I closed the door. So hopefully they quiet down, but hopefully I don't lose my internet connection because I just closed the door at 44. My selection of women that want kids and don't have them. They're so small. So I've been,

Speaker: Well, and I mean, there's nothing wrong with getting bonus kids. I mean, yeah, at at our age, John, yeah ah you know, most women have kids and probably don't want to have any more. I mean, I'm 42. I don't want to have I don't want to have any more babies. And, you know, and, you know, Nikki kind of feels the same way. Plus, we can't, um you know, she's missing some parts and pieces. But, you know, there's a lot of kids out there that

Speaker: You know, it ain't no, it ain't, it's not a bad thing to step in and be a bonus dad or, you know, and you know, you hear men and women on both sides of the spectrum say it's so hard in the dating world because I have kids. And when I was in that, that dating pool, it is, it is hard on many, many levels. Um,

Speaker: You know, you don't want your kids to get involved. You don't want your kids to get hurt. You don't want to introduce them too soon. You don't want to wait too long. You know, it's, it's a weird world, but you'd be surprised at how many people in the dating world would with kids, especially younger kids that wouldn't want somebody that's not going to look down on them for having kids and accept their kids and, and, and and step in. I hate the term step parent because when I, so when I, when I hear stepmom or stepdad,

Speaker: you know, I think of steps, stairs, they get stepped on, they get stepped over, they're not. So, you know, I like that term bonus parent. I'm a bonus dad or a bonus mom or, you know, I like that. Yeah, fill in, step in, yeah. Yeah, I like the bonus thing. But yeah, I'm 27, so it's hard for me to speak on on probably the the dating pool that you're looking at.

Speaker: But I can tell you that nowadays, I mean, even my generation, a lot of a lot of people just don't just don't want kids, period, on top of, you know, as as women get older, they they want kids less and less, and their their maternal clock starts ticking on ah on ah in the medical sense.

Speaker: whether or not we want to admit that they do have it. I mean, at some point, it becomes harder and harder for them to be fertile. But it's it's it's not a bad thing to want kids. And it's, it's I'm sure, at your age, you're you're running out of time to find, like, for that exact reason, you're probably running out of time to find somebody who would want to have kids. So I can i can understand how that would be rough. And I don't think that there's a quick solve for that. you gotta You gotta play on you gotta cross that lure in there and jig it around and all the fun. Whoa, easy. isn't Calm down there, Dr. Ruth. You gotta find the the person whose values aligns with yours and at some point that maternal clock for the person that you might like or that you might have that deep connection with that maternal clock may be up.

Speaker: And there might, you might have to look into other ways of having children and it might suck, but, and might not be the way that you wanted to do it, but there are kids out there that need parents. Absolutely. and Well, and and like you just said, Connor, ultimately, and and you guys are going to have to deal with me in the dark. Uh, so ah probably make a lot of people happy. They don't have to see my stupid face. Honestly, it makes me very uncomfortable. I don't like being around you in the dark.

Speaker: and That's not what you said last night, but you're coard like Connor just said, uh, you know, you, you ultimately got to find the right partner and miss goes both ways. You gotta find the right partner that, that their values and your values align. And, you know, what you want for the future aligns as well.

Speaker: Um, I like what Mack Mack said. She asked me for a new one. I told her we practice every Sunday and to take a doll. Look, here's a puppy instead of a baby. I like that. Uh, what's up Chris technician. Yeah, man. And, and, and, and again, you know, baby steps, baby steps, baby steps, baby steps. You know, you're not gonna, yeah I'm not going to do that.

Speaker: Um, not really. Yeah. Baby steps, man. You're still, I mean, 44 is not that old in retrospect. I mean, um, I remember being a kid and being like, man, when parents were in their forties, like, God, they're so old. And here I am in my forties now. It's like, I still feel like a big kid. Like, you know, if it was something that Nikki and I wanted, it it was something that we discussed and the opportunity was there to, uh,

Speaker: to adopt and and and and give a child a second chance, ah you know, alone kind of have already, ah you know, we, we, we would cause that options are always there because there's a lot of kids out there that are in unfortunate situations looking for somebody who's going to want to help, you know, want to raise them and love them and nurture them and teacher them and and everything like that. So, I mean, I wouldn't count yourself out yet at the end of the day.

Speaker: You know, like I said, you got a lot of things that are going on personally for you that you got to work on first. ah Yeah, i'm hiding what's going on, but there's I am I am hiding and it's ah it's a it's a I'll tell you out there. air conor Don't don't let me forget. TMI. That's why I did that. Well, I can't really type it out and make it understand. You got to like.

Speaker: I don't know. Okay. I don't know what I'm having for dinner tonight. I don't know. Nikki went to the store and bought a whole bunch of stuff. My Nikki's making tacos supposedly. She bought some at home and it was fucking amazing.

Speaker: Oh, i'm um' I'm loving it, man. I, you know, like John, you, you say you're 44. Like it's a bad thing, brother. I'm loving it, dude. This has been the best time of my life. The last, the last couple of years, man, this has been some of the best times. Um, and I'm happy for once. I can truly say I'm a happy person. Um, yeah I mean, I still have my days where I'm grumpy and stuff like that, but yeah, I'm looking forward to the next.

Speaker: you know, 20 years. I mean, I'm hoping to be in my sixties and still having having a good time and enjoying my. I'm still. Hey, that's what I say, bro. less ah I'm 22. We know that you. We know what Connor.

Speaker: I'll be surprised if you make it to 2030. I mean, I am 22. Same thing about myself.

Speaker: That's perfectly fine, Chris. I just decided to have my kids as young as humanly possible. I mean, I had my, my my my answer yeah, I was, uh, I was 24 when my oldest one was born. So, you know, right now when my son's 18, that's only seven years or eight, eight years, eight years, seven years away, he'll be 18. I'll only be 49. You know, I'll still be able to.

Speaker: Do things. ah Yeah, man. um Mike, yeah, go ahead, brother. Chop it up. Do whatever you want to do with it. If you want to send me some clips, I would greatly appreciate that. I'll throw it up on our TikTok and our socials as well. um Yeah, yeah, man. Chop away. Jesus Christ. um I mean, there's nothing wrong with that age.

Speaker: we yeah Look at it this way, Mike. At least you're younger than Glick. You know what? I'm going to stop hitting buttons. You're getting, you're doing buttons. Okay. You're doing buttons. So I mean, what else? can no Yeah, no, no. I, uh, dude, ah it's like, uh, it's like a brand new, it's like a brand new phase in my life. Uh, now that I'm in my forties, um, it's totally different. I see things differently. I think things, I think differently. I react differently. Um,

Speaker: you know I still have my hot headed moments. I still have my my moments, you know my bad days and stuff like that. But no, I'm loving my 40s. Granted, and this is coming from a guy who was told that he wouldn't live to see 21. So yeah know goes a little I was a little ah wild and reckless. And and and and as ah as as Tony D says, a knucklehead.

Speaker: Mac Max in his fifties. Yeah. We're all young guys here, man. Mike 61. If you guys have never seen a Bathurst, uh, uh, never seen him live or never, you wouldn't, you wouldn't guess in a million years. He's 61. He's a, he's a surprise. 61 years old beer girls fighting, man. I was, I was a, I was a thunder. I was a wild Thundercat man. And my, in my early, in my late teens, early twenties, I was, I was, uh, man, I was, uh,

Speaker: I was a hot shot for sure. Uh, I was, I was living on the wild side. Yeah. Tonight's mental health. We didn't really have anything planned. We just kind of came in and started talking and, and this is why I love the chatter's box so much because we can kinda, you know, sometimes we'll come in here with nothing, nothing ready and nothing planned in the chatter's box. We'll come in and and save our behinds.

Speaker: So.

Speaker: But yeah, I mean, I think, I think, I think getting older, I used to look at it as a bad thing, but now it's like, it's, it's a good thing. It's, it's fun. I'm enjoying it. I mean, I'm 40, like I said, I'm 42, but I still feel like I'm in my twenties. Like, you know, my body's a little, but some days my body says, Hey, you're not 22 anymore. But, uh, but, uh, you know, you can kind of go from there. So, but, um,

Speaker: No, I, I like these, I'm looking forward to the older years of my life, you know, being able to, I, you know, especially once the kids are grown and, and I've always to point now to where like on a Saturday night, if I want to go out and they're here, like it's not going to hurt anything. If, if they're at home and we go out to dinner or go see a show or, or go get a couple drinks or something like that, because they're all old enough to, to do that.

Speaker: welcome back welcome back huntter Apparently the beef smelled funny. I disagree with her, but I'd rather not eat Spoiled meat and end up with fucking food poisoning. So, you know you end up like I was a couple Saturdays ago um'm I'm so tired of this going through the fucking house, man It is that time of year the kids have gone back to school the germs are out and The first school year, everybody in this house was sick. Everybody. The first week, Bryson brought home home something that that gave I thought it was food poisoning because everybody, me, Bryson and Nikki all ate the same things. And so did Kennedy and we all ended up with the shits and I ended up like throwing up fucking every order was just terrible. And so did he.

Speaker: I was just like, well, it's probably food poisoning. And then three days later, I was like, I'm still shitting and throwing up. ah Maybe it's something more. And Kennedy still had diarrhea. Oh, it was just fucking great. So everybody went to the doctor's office.

Speaker: God damn it. Who cooked? I think his wife was cooking. Did you drop? her did i No, you're still there. I think you dropped for a second. Oh. Now you're dropping it. Yes, my i wow my wife is cooking.

Speaker: She's putting she's putting poison in there. It's not the meat that smells bad. She wanted to make sure you couldn't smell the arsenic she put in your tacos.

Speaker: Who Connor or or or myself I'm good. I feel great. I'm glad my headache probably like I said, I don't I don't even know why I was like I don't know why I would get a stress headache because I'm not stressing anything right now ah i pbi will later I Mean I'm stressing a little bit at work, but That's that's just

Speaker: other, other things going on, but not like super stressed or anything, but now we've been fortunate so far. Uh, none of the kids have been sick yet since, since they went to back to school, betterrefore i be bor knock on it. Now, right before, uh, they went back to school, Mickey and I got COVID, which You know, I I've heard all the horror stories and everything like that with COVID and the effect. I mean, I'm glad that mine was just it was like three days. And then for a few days afterwards, I was super sore. But other than that, man, it was.

Speaker: Connor's always going through a midlife crisis. I mean, Michael, at least I'm not going through an end of life crisis. It's his his internet's given him issues ah Speaking of into life crisis somebody should check in on him how How's your how's your how's your BFF? The former or the yeah the the future sports broadcast are doing oh Fuck I don't know. I don't I make it a point not to talk to him. Oh I think that he may have watched the show one or two too many times after he left and probably heard me say a few things and now he just doesn't fucking talk to me anymore. Right.

Speaker: ah

Speaker: house ah how's How's everything? You know, like I said, you're you're not on here as much as you used to be. I know things are picking up around your house and you've been kind of busy. How's everything been going? You you still feeling feeling good after the surgery? You able to you a little bit more mobile now? Yeah, without do things with the kids and stuff. Yeah, we went to the zoo this weekend, which was we should have a z because we do have an open. Yeah, we do. If you scroll up in the comments, Michael, it it should be in there, but we can drop it again here in a minute. ah Yeah, we got it. But was it miserable just because it was hot out or was it just? No, it was you horrible because there were fucking people there and my kids were there and my my wife other people were there.

Speaker: to dad and did did uh did you guys take doc and his uh his daughter I mean his girlfriend oh shit ah yeah we did uh we all went together but we went at like the time that we we left at like 10 o 'clock 11 o 'clock and so the baby goes down for a nap at like one uh oh and everybody eats lunch at like 11 30. So we get there and then 20 minutes in the kids, oh I'm hungry. like mother This is why you ate before we left. and And Nikki's like, well, I still want to take the kids to see this and that and this and that. Like, dude, we've been here for two hours already. The fuck do you want? And aye I do very poorly in in social environments where where there are other people.

Speaker: I've had a very very large paradigm shift in my life where I no longer enjoy those things and I think i just fucking I fucking hated it, but I put on to Yeah, we talked about that before where you'll have moments like in the grocery store and if yeah you have those those those flashes of of of Fight or flight, you know or or yeah, we've we've talked about that before I get like that sometimes I in big crowds. you I have i've been working with my my psychiatrist, so the one who gives me medications, to to get me something to to where I can take it and within five to 10 minutes, it will calm down that physiological response and kind of turn ah turn off the alarm bells in my head. Because it's it's just that everybody seems like a threat. Everybody seems like that you know they're they're doing something they shouldn't be.

Speaker: Or at least that's the way that I look at look at everybody. And you know I've had my therapy sessions and all the fun stuff. you know nobody People that I don't know don't deserve to be looked at like that because the vast majority of people are not that way. And I do feel a form of guilt for for looking at everyone like that. But it's just... it just I don't, I don't like fucking, I don't like crowds. I don't like people that I don't know. Uh, unless you come up and talk to me, I'm going to fucking avoid you like the plague. It's just, it's just the way I am. There's no, there is no, I will put in zero effort to talk to strangers. And my wife's just like, hi, how are you? And I'm just like, would you shut the fuck up? I, uh, I used to be really bad in, in, in big crowds with my anxiety. And, um, you know, even now.

Speaker: It, but I, I can kinda, in the past I couldn't, ah you know, the anxiety attacks, I couldn't, I couldn't control or, you know, anything like that. But, you know, the last few years I've been able to kind of rein it in and I still get, I still get anxious. Um, yeah sometimes in big crowds, like, you know, we've gone to a couple concerts, Nikki and I have, and we've done it, we've gone and done a couple of things. And sometimes the crowds are just a little bit too much for me and I start to get real anxious and I, and I have to take kind of.

Speaker: Uh, uh, you know, a time out in my brain and close my eyes and, you know, collect myself. So I don't go into a full, not going to be your fucking guinea pig for the, for the possibly rancid meat,

Speaker: whoa go into a full blown anxiety attack. Um, but we are right up against it. We're going to take another real quick breaky break, you break.

Speaker: ah We do have the link in the chat for anybody who wants to pop up. As I said, it is an open panel. It's an open forum. um

Speaker: So ah for anybody who wants to come up, Mike, if you need me to to email you the link, let me know. Oh, there he is. um But we're gonna take a real quick break and we'll be back here in just a few minutes. I spoke about this gentleman earlier, um Mr. Jay Valor. This is one of his songs. It's called bor and Born to Run. And we'll be back here in just a few minutes.

Speaker: See the sun around

Speaker: There's nothing left to do but pass away.

Speaker: Thank you.

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Speaker: What's going on, Mike? How you doing tonight? a I want to see. but Yeah, yes, it feels like a ah lifetime. Yeah. So we did well yesterday. A lot of our predictions. we We did. I was I was talking to Cam about that. He was over last night. He made a pit stop and crashed here last night. And I said, I said, man, I don't think we did very well. And I had to look at the sheet and I was like, oh, wow, we actually did really well ah again. Yeah.

Speaker: A lot of the things we thought could happen did happen. Part of the reason I came up is I wanted to explain myself to Connor. braish What's up? And and what I wanted to explain was, you know, 40 to 50 is really one of the sweet spots of life. I've now made it to 61. You still have your health.

Speaker: You still can do things. You do pay a little harder, you know, than you should. But, uh, yeah.

Speaker: And he tends to be, when I tune in into him, he's very bright and I've told them this before. And one of the curses of being very bright is your mind will never stop. date and When you say very bright, are you talking about me? Yeah.

Speaker: I think that's a first. No, I've, I've said that to you before in the chat. i Um, what, what, one of my many gifts is I've always been able to read people really well and usually through body language. And it's funny because Chris.

Speaker: There's a lot more going on there than he ever shows. like and oh yeah yeah you are You are an onion, ah my friend. I try to tell people that. Yeah, I think my first book about you will be The Man Who'd Hidden the Shadows, the real. I feel like Batman right now. if Batman had a podcast. Batman.

Speaker: Yeah, so the the reason it came up, and I just want to explain this, is that it can be one of the sweetest periods of your life, between 50 and 44. 44 is a Masonic number. I don't know if you know this. And if you look at government buildings,

Speaker: or companies that have a lot of money, like I mean, insane amount of money, billions and billions, they will be in buildings that are 33, 44 or 55 and nothing else. And I watched a show on it one time and 44 is one of those stretching, prosperous times in your life where you feel like, God, they can't put one more thing on me. But in that stretching and growing,

Speaker: you become this person that you are now. And we're not here to just not suffer. We're here to learn. The universe doesn't give two shits if we suffer. We're here to basically fill the agenda. Now, for some reason, recently, I felt the pull to spend more time with Chris. So I've been doing that. And I've learned to listen to the voice, even if it Defies logic at times but I'm fine. I'm fine with him even though he is God or the God just just the god You Mike welcome du ah it was like Yesterday I said to your friend I said so your middle name is humble and he didn't get it took you a second my old that goes right over his head Yeah, I really liked him

Speaker: Derek is great. Derek is, Derek is really good people. Uh, he, you know, I'm fortunate enough and I'm blessed to get to do these interviews and hang out with these up and coming musicians. yeah And, and, and, and some of the interviews, you know, I, and I think, you know, they would say the same thing. Sometimes they they don't go exactly as planned. I've never had a bad interview. Uh, Derek is one of those guys, man, I wish I would, I could have spent six, seven, eight more hours chitchatting with him. We were, we were having a really good time. We've stayed in touch.

Speaker: Um, even after the, obviously even after the show, um, he was the one who actually mentioned, uh, coming up and doing the Sunday show with me. He was like, I'd love to be a part of that if that's all right with you. Yeah. And say no more. Congratulations. You're, you're the, uh, you're the new co -host. How did you, how did you meet, uh, Connor?

Speaker: I'm injured. And I used to, uh, Connor and I used to work together, uh, for, uh, Abercrombie. Yeah, we were, we were on the best security there. So, and then we just, him and I just click it, clicked instantly. Um, it was like, we've been friends for years. And, uh, even with them, wendy overseas and being in the military and everything like that, we always stayed in touch. We always stayed in contact and.

Speaker: Early stages of the of the broad of the of nonsensical nonsense when he was around if Jeff wasn't able to be there Whatever he would fill in and and help out talk about myself when you get done with the military You need to come on here full -time with us and be a member of the of the show. So yeah You're similar in looks ah The way you're wired though is very different. Yeah, you're you're wired completely different Connor Connor is um I would not be shocked if you were tested that you have some skills of you that are men's are bright. i The way that you wear a Christian higher, we do well with what we have.

Speaker: yeah I know my strengths. I used to tell my kids all the time, they go, Oh, god you're so smart. And I said, you're an eight cylinder, hon. I'm a four with a turbo. It's not good.

Speaker: i't have a true story that i take Oh, my, my girls are way brighter than I'll ever be. Like, and I want it that way. I much rather that um I have other family members that are very, very bright that are no longer with us and they suffered through mental health like nobody's business.

Speaker: My one aunt Valerie is probably one of the smartest people you know that I've ever met. like We would play um charades. Is it charades? What's the what's the one, Boulder Dash or something? Boulder Dash, yeah. yeah and And it would be questions about everything. And she'd know the answer. Oh, I read that book. Oh, I knew this. Oh, I knew that. And I get to the point where I'm like, just shut up or be on my team. just yeah Balderdash is like bullshit for trivia. But she was so bright. She had it. And she had instant recall, but she couldn't do life. She could not do life. She couldn't do life without drugs. She couldn't do life without drinking. She just couldn't do it. And I'm, I'm not talking recreational, you know, let's celebrate with cool in the gang. I'm talking. Yeah. Yeah. You know, below the gutters stuff, like, you know, extremist. Oh, wow.

Speaker: don't age and math and things like that. So I just want to say to anybody who's in the room and we'll watch this later because my audience, because I'm here and I don't know if you know this, but this is my groove. I have a huge spiritual network of really zany, weird people. and like I got to tell you a story about Tony D the other day. We're you going to football. ah Just so I know when to cook dinner.

Speaker: but

Speaker: Keep going. my gun I like that. I want to know if this is over. She was. Yeah, she was just asking. So she knew when to make make dinner. You done being outside, dog? yeah Yeah, you know what? My daughters used to say when they were little because I used to own a store when I was really young. And if people would talk to me in the mall, they go, this is our time. Go away.

Speaker: go away. We don't see him now. Cause I used to work like 10, 12 hours a day when I had the store and my daughters were like, no, don't say hi to everybody and go, but that's, that's my business. That's who I am. That's so we would always have to do things or go to a town where nobody knew us and that'd be fine. But I'd go in the mall and be like, Hey, Mike, and and I can't, I can't snub them. yeah that Yeah. You know,

Speaker: But so basically anybody who's watching this later, I just got to tell you the story for Chris. I think he'll like this. So Tony D and I were trying to do this football show. We're all serious and Ron, Ron football and football. And then all of a sudden this lady comes in and and her name is Simone and and she's got the link and she comes in because she's been in my show before and Tony's like,

Speaker: What the fuck? Who's this? Like he's looking on the screen. He's like, what? Who is this? And I was like, she's important to me. Be kind. Just be kind. of so So everybody that was in the room started listening to her and they didn't give a shit about the football show. They would just wanted her. They were yeah they were like, she's good people, Tony. Be quiet.

Speaker: and And that was Bobby shadow Bobby shadow goes she's good people I can tell I know he good know Bobby shadow But some people have that kind of energy where they can steal the room and it was like I was saying to Chris I said Don't ever invite a host Yeah to your show Like if if you want all that war have for host we tried them Because usually it's big egos. Yeah. You know, depending on, depending upon the broadcasters. Yeah. You could definitely get, you can definitely get that, that ego button heads and whatnot. But I mean, if you get a.

Speaker: And I'm not taking shots at anybody or anything like that. I don't want to do this. But if you get a good host that comes up as a guest on somebody else show, they can, they can come in and slide into the conversation relatively easy and be a part of the conversation and not try to take over too much. but You know, but yeah sometimes you get the guys that pop up and it's just like,

Speaker: Wait a minute. Is this still my show or am I on their show? Where am I at right now? You kind of yeah cutting get thrown for a little bit of a loop. That's the growing piece. And I think you and i and I and I don't know Connor well enough. But if you've done enough of this, right, you start to realize it's the content that matters. It's not you. You're just part of it. And and and I'm OK with putting images up or asking questions.

Speaker: And the other day, you know that there is an inside this guy, a dick, like ah an asshole. There's a giant asshole who comes out every once in a while. I'd leave him in the corner and I'd talk to Michael.

Speaker: Like I had to stop myself a couple of times in the last show and I went, nothing nice is going to come out of my mouth. So I'm going to be quiet. i heard you say yeah we were We're talking about certain players and certainties. You're like, Nope, can't say nothing. Nice. you know ah Stop. But that was me talking to the asshole. Michael, Michael, sit down, sit down, Michael. No one, no, I want to play. Oh yeah. me Meanwhile, I'm over here calling teams, dumpster fires. while i know person say You're so much better a person than I am.

Speaker: But it was playful though. It was playful and yeah in the comments and you were supporting the room. You didn't come in and just be disruptive. Yeah. And I find even your chats, my chats, whatever it is, especially Tony. Tony's rooms can be sometimes very volatile when I was on Haps. Um, I was an egomaniac at times. and And so was Tony and we would go in and barrel a room and and then go, well, that was fun. Thank you.

Speaker: there's there's there's there' so There's some people from those days that I would love to get on this show and and have a kind like a serious conversation with and and kind of dive into their head and the way they think and their thought processes and stuff like that. Not not to not to put them on the spot or anything like that or or make them feel bad or or to to shit on them or anything like that just to just to Learn what makes them tick and why they do some of the things they do and and the thought processes But also there's a part of me where it's like do I really have the patience anymore to deal with that? Connor but what does this bring for you because I know what you bring. I'm not one time I was watching you and

Speaker: And there was a room of, you know, maybe six of you and you started talking and I went, okay, we got a bright one here. We, we, we got it. We got a 60 watt bulb in, in the 30 watt room. this is This, this is good. And I was like, whoa, who's this? what What's this? Oh, a little wrinkle. And this was maybe two years ago. And I was like, okay. Oh, sometime.

Speaker: Yeah, oh that was one of the fill in moments. Yeah, that that would have been that would have been a filling time. I mean, I just I just love being up here. I think that if there's something that I can add to a conversation and actually and not just be a filler.

Speaker: then it, and and it has a place in whatever conversation that we're having, and it has some meaning, but there's, and there's a point to what I want to say, that it should be said. And hopefully, you know, I know that we don't always have 1 ,000 viewers per, per show, but hopefully somebody hears it and takes it and and and moves forward with it. And that's why when, when Glick and I were talking about doing Monday nights and doing a mental health podcast that I was I was all for it, and I wanted to be a part of it, because I know that i I'm young, but I've seen, I've seen a thing or two. been because We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. I figure, ah especially for my generation, if I can give some form of experience, or I hate to say wisdom,

Speaker: He just because I don't have much of it. Oh, OK. But if I can give something. Yeah, I know. I know. I froze there for a second. But if I can if I can add something to somebody else's life, I'd like to. I'm big on on giving. And and as much as I'm not a people person in face to face, it's it's. Good to be able. You said something very interesting somewhere. You said something very interesting earlier. You said if I'm in a ah big crowd,

Speaker: I don't feel safe, I think. At least that's what I felt when you said it. Can I explain to you what that means um vibrationally, if that's okay if you're open to it? I listen to i listen to all. Okay. So one of my first teachers um used to say to me, and she was vibrationally Oh my God, like and let let's say I'm a two. She was 202. She felt everything, sent stuff. She was really good at making money because she could predict trends before they happened. She knew. It was almost like she had hacked into the matrix. She knew certain things. Things that people shouldn't know. And she could look at you and figure out your weaknesses very quickly.

Speaker: But she could not do crowds as well. And I tried to explain to her why that was interesting to to me. And she said, for me to keep this, what I have, I can't be in ah you know one of the greatest poets yesterday said in a dumpster fire of negativity.

Speaker: to Sounds like ah like a very smart man right there. Oh, humble and kind. And chaa yeah, anybody calls themselves the champ and then downgrades to the God. yeah One of the most humble people I've ever. Not narcissistic at all. No, I'm i'm not running.

Speaker: Don't run around here making bonehead decisions. I love that yesterday. Bonehead bone. head um um That was so cool. I, I, I really like him. he is He's, uh, he's fun. Yeah. He's, gone he's, he's, he's kind of like vibrationally, like a light pastry. He's fun. He's not threatening who, who's the other guy in the room? is Mr. Warm and fuzzy cam.

Speaker: ah can and Connor asked me a question. Anything. Just ask me something.

Speaker: But what's been the most impactful, the most impactful that you can think of ah off the top of your head, the most impactful moment in your life that has pushed you to where you are? And and and this is Cam's answer. What a dumb question. Thank you. Next.

Speaker: I love him. He's such a dude. But even the answer, he was like, we would go, well, who do you pick? Neither. Stupid. You don't like them.

Speaker: ah

Speaker: I'm going to go with the Steelers. Why? Because that's my second team. He's a man of few words. What can you say? Yeah. And then I had and then I poked a little fun at his team and which he had the shirt on and that didn't go well.

Speaker: so we we and and even chris was kind of like yeah let's go over here now and here's the next question and moving forward uh let's talk about chicken wings for 10 points chicken wings for 10 points thank you chris is good at those smooth segways we're like nobody notices it and we're gonna change subjects he always has the bucket for the dumpster fire just in case yeah

Speaker: i i I think humor is is one of the greatest healing tools, that in music. I love that piece of music you play, by the way. That guy's really good. Beautiful voice. Yeah. that You know, I can't, I don't know if it's, I don't know if I'm developing a reputation in the music scene where when I first started, you you want to talk about a real kind of

Speaker: stepping, not necessarily out of my comfort zone, because I love music, but I sit down and talk to the artist and not just play music. And I, and it was, it was a little bit of a mental struggle for me because it was like, well, what if nobody responds? What if I don't get any, and if I don't get anything, you know, what if I'm still just sitting here playing, uh, want to be, if I can steal a phrase from a fireman, rich, uh, want to be DJ. I know he does his, his, his show where he plays music. Yeah. Uh, you know, what if I'm just doing that this whole time and then.

Speaker: got the first few interviews in and had a good time. And then all of a sudden it's just like bang, bang, bang. As soon as I reach out to somebody, they're quick to get back and and we're setting up dates. And I'm looking at my calendar going, holy crap. Uh, where am I going to put this next person? yeah But that's momentum, right? That's momentum in life. And and and I love it. I love doing it. and And you get to come across so many talented up and coming artists. Um, AJG, who will be on tomorrow night, he's got a few different songs I really like. Um,

Speaker: And the same with Jay Valor. They both got a lot of different songs. There is got some songs. I really got to sit down and work on my Spotify playlist so I can get it out there and share all these artists' music with our followers as well. And and whoever else decides to listen to my my playlist because it's all going to be uh, previous artists that I've interviewed or what, after I interview an artist, I'm going to put their music onto the playlist, uh, to kind of share them out more and get more ears on what they're doing. Do you know what's cool about you though? You are not stuck in one group. Like I get the impression that you do, you like almost everything. i When it comes to music, I listen to everything. Yeah. what are you It's almost like a smorgasbord, right? Then when you go to the buffet, like a little bit of everything. Yeah.

Speaker: I did. what That's been that's been one of my things with with dealing with, you know, like I said, I have not so much anymore these days, but I've dealt with it most of my life, severe depression and severe anxiety. And the one the one thing that's always kind of helped get me back to where I need to be has always been music. It's healing. Yeah. And and I just listen to so much of it and so many different genres. I don't.

Speaker: I never wanted to pigeon myself, pigeonhole myself into, oh, I'm only a country fan or, oh, I'm only a, you know, I listened to everything. There's, there's, there's not only just genres, but there's eras of music that I love. I love the fifties and sixties music. So it's just, it's, it's been a part of my healing process. And now to get to talk to the artists and stuff like that, it's like another part of the healing process because then I get to be able to ask them, you know, where were you at when you wrote this song? And be like, damn, I know exactly what they're talking about because I was in that same position when I listened to the song and it got me through. It it brought me out of that funk or that time and place that song or album brought me out of it.

Speaker: can Can I ask you just one question that's kind of related? And I, you know, when you do these shows, your goal is to tell the story, but also help other people. And anybody who just happens to pop in at this part, e there's probably a reason you popped in at this part or you're here with us right now. This isn't random. You were supposed to listen to, you know, the dumpster fire.

Speaker: but it that The truth is that you have the ability, and I've noticed this with you, is you have a great sense of what people's gifts are. And you've picked people that are with you around you that amplify your talents and you amplify theirs. and You elevate each other.

Speaker: and's I don't know if it was always like that. And maybe that's growth that you guys have gone through together, but I really feel like you're striving to make better content. And it isn't just, you know, the dumpster fire we were talking about before the crazy, and you're really trying to make something that people will be very except, you know, willing to want to watch later think that that has value later. Yeah.

Speaker: I think when we first started, when Jeff and I first started, we were crazy, we were out there, and it was, for both of us, it was our escape from reality. We could come on and we could act ridiculous and and be crazy and be out there. But as we started to grow, especially for me, I was like, I enjoy, that's why we keep Saturday nights the way we keep Saturday nights. But I, you know,

Speaker: It's like, man, I have all these ideas and I have this, this group around me of great guys yeah that we can, we can, and from there it was just, Hey, I want to try this. Are you guys down for it? You know, I want to show people that there's more to us than.

Speaker: the quote unquote fart jokes and dick jokes or, yeah like or, you know, the crazy, uh, shock jock of the nineties antics. You know what I mean? Like the Howard Stern style antics, because this is something for me, this is really, truly a dream of mine is to do the podcasting and to make it successful and and and do it for a living. But I want to show people there's more to me than just, just a wild and crazy guy. You see, I can,

Speaker: I can be serious. I can sit down and talk to people from all over the place and different, different personalities. And, and, and I can do more things than just turn on the mic and act like an animal. So to say, but but here's the thing though, you're going to grow your audience. If you make it more serious and in the sense, and in it has, see to me, it's, it's quality and what value are you adding?

Speaker: Right. So if you're, if you're adding value where you and I know some people just love the sound of their voice and don't care if there is some subject matter. In fact, they' they'll just start screaming or they'll do the, but, but, but what, what, what, you know, like yeah like a five year old. Um, I noticed yesterday, even in the room, you were really trying to direct the content.

Speaker: And you were, and you were, you know, fully listening, you were engaged. And I was like, Hmm, this is interesting because I don't get that a lot in groups where people will actually want to listen to the other person. And it's more like the whole time that person is talking, you're thinking what clever antidote am I going to add to this? Yeah.

Speaker: Right. And how am I going to steal the thunder or, or the the shine? The thing is if you elevate each other, which I'm noticing you're doing more of people want to come because you're building a community. And within that community, people then have a place to feel safe. Yeah. Oh yeah. Which is, which is something that I want to, you know, and what's going on, brother? How are you doing? ourless Um, you know,

Speaker: And that's something when when I when I turned that corner and started changing things the We were we were already getting growth like we were already but but to have the evolution and then to start growing as individuals and start doing Different things that that and some of us we came out of our comfort zone to do it I know like this show asking Connor to be a part of this show and I know that I'm bringing him out of his comfort zone I know he's outside of his element, but he's he's rolling with me He's rocking it out. He's having fun with it. He's enjoying the show. Um, he's even said a couple of times it's, it's, it's helped him, you know, he was going through a lot. Yeah. Um, push him to finally kind of get on his own. Are you okay with, um, at, you know, basically advertising this show through my show? Because my show is kind of.

Speaker: more of this Avenue. And I don't mean the AI music. I mean the, the, the spiritual weirdos that are on, uh, Twitter spaces. Like I was supposed to be in a show tonight, but I've done that a thousand times. I don't need to go there and roar thunder with a bunch of other spiritual weirdos. And even in that there's ego. Oh my God.

Speaker: You want to get a bunch of people with the ego, people who think they're enlightened, like, holy crap. It's, it's religious or religious or, you know, highly political or, oh yeah you know, they're all selling something, but I think you could help a lot of people, both of you. Um, I'm more wired like Chris and Chris is, you know, ah a spin -off of me and, you know, a different and yeah He's you if you were on cocaine. Yes. i am the i'm the i'm the i'm the younger I'm the younger model. look the better spra that the The better model.

Speaker: we' be Younger upgraded. yeah Faster. With five cylinders and turbo. I don't know about faster. He just talks faster. He sounds faster. He's like the Honda Civic with the big fart can on the back. He sounds faster. with me he's got He's got two fart cans on the back. Come on.

Speaker: I, I'd be lying if I said you were lying. But at the back, it plays a melody like this, but then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then,

Speaker: it is the pursued to skirt right and then, and that's another mind game And then it's, you know, if you're a DJ or a performer in the sense of being in a band and that's another adrenaline high thing. It was funny. I read a book once and I don't know if I've said this before on your show before, but my two favorite things in the world when I was like 19 was sex and cheeseburgers. And then I later realized after I did some reading, both of them,

Speaker: a shoot endorphins to your head, the the same kind of rush that you have when you do like heavy opiates. So they both have that euphoric feeling. So you know to me, first it would either one I could have in the course of the day that the cheeseburger with bacon, or I could have explorations in Mike's weird world when I was younger was great.

Speaker: But then there was always this emptiness after because that's a thirst that's never quenched. Right. You know, yeah there's always more cheeseburgers with bacon. I was going to say, you realize later in life that cheeseburgers are way better than sex. Agreed. There's nothing like entertaining a crowd. do You see a singer or there's something. Yeah. did Did you ever hear what Celine Dion said? Yeah, Arliss is the lead singer of the ah son of a but

Speaker: Yeah, so Celine Dion once said but the only time I feel the only time I feel happy is when I'm performing This is the rest of the time I'm not happy but when I'm performing for my people then I I feel I'm happy then in that two hours, but the rest of the time I'm I'm just a wreck and You know, that's that's interesting that you you say that because you just spoke about the the the the feeling of euphoria that it creates.

Speaker: right And it's that that chase and that pursuit to get back to it. And I know i struggle with it a lot. I had i had ah i had a big sense of purpose and and and really like I loved what I did while I was in the infantry in the army. I absolutely, i despite all the crap that came along with it, I loved it. But now that i' I'm gone from it, all I want to do is go back to something similar.

Speaker: And you hear it as soon as you leave those endorphins and you leave whatever it was that was Tate was taking you to that high. All you want to do is go back and nothing ever feels as fun. Nothing ever feels as the, that fills that little void. And that's, that's entertainment. That's, that's speaking to people. If you're Chris and you're fucking weird getting up in front of crowds and yeah.

Speaker: He meant that in the most loving way, Chris. Absolutely. Yeah, I felt real love there when he when he said that kind of like. that Yeah, my mom was like that. My mom would be like, you know. You did that really well, but stop fucking doing that. And I used and I used to call it the tap, tap slap.

Speaker: Yeah. Right. yeah you You get that. You know what? Well, good boy. You done this. These guys are these guys here on the network. They they do a good job of keeping me humble and centered and down to earth. You know, I don't want I don't want to get a big hit or an ego. Now, you know, like like I said, there's nothing like entertaining the crowd. but You know, this this getting on here and doing these shows is it's like a drug for me. I mean, I remember when I first started you know, I would have to have a couple beers in me because I would still be nervous and and just to do a show and now I don't know, probably the last year or so. I typically only drink on Saturday nights, but that's just my night to have a few beers and cut loose and have fun. When I'm doing any of these shows anymore, I usually got water or a pot beside me. Yeah. Which is great. You know, for me, again, part of my anxiety is it's one of the things overcoming

Speaker: um and And I think that's another reason. I think that, you know, I'm a little bit more clear headed. The shows have gotten better because I'm not sitting here drinking on the shows. But this has become like a new high for me, turning this camera on and getting on here and getting that and getting to hang out with some of my best friends on the planet and chitchat about different things or having fun or being serious. And I look forward to it every day. I know there's going to come a time where Nikki's going to eventually strangle me if I continue to take on new shows and new projects. But it's

Speaker: Well, that's the thing, the life balance, right? yeah you Both of you. and And it made me laugh today because, you know, you're both so blessed to have people who love you and who want to be there with you and want to feed you and drive you crazy and and all that stuff. And if you didn't have that, I think it would be really difficult. I don't know if you guys have ever watched the show. I think it's called Alone on History Channel.

Speaker: And you go on this island, there's 10 participants and you have to find them and you're completely by yourself and whoever outlasts and you makes it to the end. Do you know what kills them? it's It's not the lack of food. It is not being able to be around.

Speaker: loved ones. And a lot of people lose their mind because they can't have desserts. they dream dream The one guy says, all I dream about is icing and coffee cake.

Speaker: and and that would be glick he He killed he killed a moose and he's eating but beef jerky and he's having bunnies and and he's having salmon. And all he's thinking about is donuts and cake and a lot of them miss coffee.

Speaker: So yeah, you but and what I'm basically saying to you is that you are both insanely blessed It doesn't feel like that every day but to have someone who loves you unconditionally and I think all of this in this room we're a piece of work and anybody who's willing to partake in looking out like you know, I've been with my wife over 30 years and I know I can be very distant at times. I can be preoccupied. um I can be driven on stupid things. that you know And i I see it in Chris. like Chris is driven. he He wants this. He tastes this. like He works so he can do this. and And those are the kind of people, and he he does it

Speaker: because they he loves it, not because it's a source of income. It's not keeping him warm, dry, fed. It is. um It's enticing him inside. It's it's like the artist who has to paint or the singer who has to sing. We we need to clip that. Well, we'll clip that. Put it right in somewhere. Yeah, 100 percent. Hey, thank you again, Arlo. That means the world to me. That was such an honor.

Speaker: That MC for those guys. Holy crap. You want to talk about an experience? Arliss, do you see the caption that he has under his name? Stop, stop telling him you did a good job.

Speaker: i tell you worst m z so so conor i I want to address the one thing you said, because I thought it was a nugget of gold. A lot of football players don't miss the money. Don't miss getting hit. Do you know what they miss?

Speaker: the guys in the room being part of something. So when you talked to about being in the army and and going out for the fight, right? Football at a high level is like that. If you're on a team where everybody is your brother and you love each other and drive each other crazy, you miss that. Like Jason Kelsey for the longest time was still going back and seeing the guys because he couldn't let go. Like if you, if if you said to Chris, you can't broadcast anymore. He'd go, what?

Speaker: well Why? But, but here's X amount of dollars. so and And you just can't do that anymore. He he would probably go, Oh, I don't know. um What are we talking about? Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Let's, let's see how many zeros, but not high that there's so many things to do. Yeah. It's an outlet. and And like you said, I think both of you said for a while, you know, you you do things to distract, right? Or you do things to numb.

Speaker: ye and And if you're a multi -choice kind of person, like when I was younger, I did all the above. Yeah. and that will show you in that time Yeah, that's one of his voice. What's going on, Jeeves? And that's what I was saying earlier in the beginning when we did start to show it was, it was an outlet for me to numb, to shut down the the inside voices, to just escape. And then as we continued to go and grow, and like I said, it's like, you know, I made i made a post on Facebook the other day thanking Arliss and ali and

Speaker: and everybody involved, you know, for for allowing me to live out one of my dreams. And that was to get on stage in front of people. Now I wasn't singing or performing, I was just MCing, but nonetheless, but you know, when i when i started when I started doing this podcast, there was a lot of people who who doubted what I was doing, looked down on me, ah you know, and and it and and and don't like me because of it. um But the ones who stuck around were the guys here on the network. They've had my back Nikki since day one. She's been super supportive and reminds me every day how proud of she, I mean, and there's other opportunities that have opened up. Just recently, like getting to take the show and doing it at the, uh, Buck. I, uh, are at the, uh, accident place, uh, for their one year anniversary. And we got invited back for their Halloween party. Uh, you know, these are all things that I never thought would ever happen.

Speaker: and they're happening now and I'm um um' literally living out a dream and and and this is now. In the beginning, it was my passion. It's still my passion. It's still a dream I have and I love doing it. But now with as much as we've changed, I feel like we're actually doing something and and and giving people who watch and listen something to enjoy and not just being those animals that are being let out of the cage. And I'm loving it. It's a calling, right? And as we evolve and grow and stretch, we're going to have individuals who won't grow and stretch and and they'll stay in those patterns.

Speaker: And that's okay. and And you just let them be what they are, let them stir in what they are. And nothing says growth as just being consistent and and you're consistent. And I think you've seen too, like for me, after Hapstide, I stopped. I stopped for a while. I just, I walked away, I've worked on social media in different ways. And then I thought, you know,

Speaker: I have a gift here and I'm kind of sitting on my hands. Why am I not doing this? And it wasn't fear. I don't have fear with this. If anything, I'm a little bit arrogant when it comes to this, but, but, but I'm not like that in all aspects of my life. I think when you know that you're good at something, you're okay with doing it more, right? yeah But now it's, it's not enough to be good at it. I want to elevate other people to be better what they do.

Speaker: I want them to, you know, be part of something. I want to be part of something like that team, like you guys serving in the military or being part ah of a good football team. There's nothing like success when you can share with the people you care about. I think you you said it was being good at something is not enough.

Speaker: This just is not enough. I'm running into that right now. I was obviously, i was I was good in the army. I was good at what I did. And now that I'm out, I'm like, well, I'm really good with guns. And so I started working on getting my gunsmithing, some so gunsmithing certificates and things like that. And I was like, you know, this is, this is awesome. And I think that I could build a business out of it, but it's not what I'm passionate about.

Speaker: My passion is what drives me. I'm good at lots of things. I'm like the jack of all trade and master of none. But what I'm passionate about is what I love to do on a daily basis, which is helping. I don't like people, but I would love to help all of them. And so that's that's it's learning. i I disagree with you. I think you don't trust people. I don't think it's that you don't like them. I think you actually have a great love for humanity.

Speaker: but you just don't have the ability to trust people because in the past people let you down. He's froze now. So, so I can say anything. I can say anything when he's frozen. You say anything you want and they'll just go. Anything. Anything. So you love Tony D. Oh, that's great.

Speaker: He's a handsome fellow. I agree. Yeah. ah Gee, that's, that's... Look at it, it's going like this. but doing What are you guys talking about? What are you doing? I keep, i my my computer keeps freezing. Do you want to reboot it and come back in?

Speaker: I already rebooted and that's it's about time fit to get my kids to bed. I think that's the universe saying, Connor, you have a higher calling right now. So listen, i but I would I would love to do this again on a Monday. There's the part of the reason it came up to is there's ah a guy that I know is and he does a show that's the bipolar show and it's very popular on Twitter. Huge.

Speaker: And he would be an amazing guest for you guys. And he is wide open. Like he'll, he'll share. I'm not a sharing kind of guy. I don't know if you've noticed that. I just, I'll, I'll direct the room. I'll, I'll do little antidotes. I'll dance around. I'll do, you know, the, the Robin Williams skit thing for a moment, but ah sharing feelings like woa whoa, whoa, whoa feelings. No, it's, it's not, no, that's just not me.

Speaker: that That was one thing when we always started this show. I told Connor, I said, you know, I have no problem being an open book. You know, I would like for you to do the same. And and and and I think, you know, one of the things that resonates with with with our listeners is that we don't try to come off like experts. We just share our experiences and share what helped us get through our times or what is helping us get through and and to be better and to heal. I don't want people to think I know everything because Lord knows I don't. I can just share with you.

Speaker: what I've been through and the roads I've gone down and and to get to where I am today and and the struggles I've had. But, you know, that was one thing that I wanted move was that if you if we were going to do this show, we both had to be an open book and Connor was like, yeah, I mean, you know, whatever, whatever it is, Jeff's the same way. Jeff, Jeff's not the Sharon type, but he will come up and partake in the conversation. He just won't open up a hundred percent.

Speaker: or even 10 % sometimes. yeah and and i But I understand that. I respect that. And we all have our boundaries. But what I was trying to say, Connor, before is I don't think you feel safe with people. It's not that you don't love them. I think you have a great capacity to love the universe and the people in it. It's just in the past, a lot of individuals morally are a little bit bankrupt and you can't trust them. and Or snakes in the grass, what whatever you want to call it. Yeah, snakes in the grass. That's a good one.

Speaker: you know And most people, not all, have their agenda. They're there to serve their their purpose. um I have one friend, his name's Ravi, and he is the only person I think I've ever met that never has an agenda. He just kind of goes in the flow. And he drives me crazy sometimes because I a lot of times have an agenda.

Speaker: yeah and and And I have to be real about that. And sometimes I'll even say to myself, okay, what is it I really want out of this? And how can I help others?

Speaker: So I have to be honest, but people who are really evolved, they, they don't do stuff. They just be, do you know what I mean by that? They just, they live for this next moment and they're there and they're great listeners. And, oh, you know, as I say that I can actually just feel my heart open a little bit there because I think that's what I want. You know, I, I feel like the Grinch on top of the the mountain there is hard. 500.

Speaker: So if I start to melt and start crying and have to go, you'll know. <unk> Michael, if he falls over sideways, somebody should call 911. Yes. He's having a heart attack. He's having a heart attack. For sure.

Speaker: He's Michael inaugural. I think it's funny you say that. I obviously i have smaller children. And one of my favorite, by the way, thank you. Good job. My favorite movies to watch is Kung Fu Panda. And the first one, ah Poe, the the main character, he's struggling with the fact that he doesn't know what's going to happen tomorrow and he's upset from where he came from and all this that. yeah And the very wise master ugway comes in and says, there is an old say.

Speaker: Yesterday is history, ah tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why we call it the present. And every time I hear it, it sends chills down my spine and it reminds me that I'm being so ignorant about my life and not living in the now as much as I need to and just listening and and taking in what's around. And what just what you said, it brought that up because we were just downstairs watching in Kung Fu Panda and I was like, oh, it's it's it's ah such a great quote.

Speaker: such It's very profound in something that almost feels like it shouldn't be. Chris, did you feel like you wanted to puke in a bucket there just for a moment or are you OK? Oh, no. No, I was just stretching forward to stretch out. OK, because I was a little worried. I was like, it's like, oh, my God, they're shoveling it so fast. I can't even see.

Speaker: No, no, no, I was I was leaning forward to stretch my back. out I'm old honestly better if I just couldn't get there in this Yeah, what a bunch of sissies showing their feelings who does that? yeah no No Not at all. not i either I mean, this is why we do the show. I mean I want I want and and And it's one of the shows that we do that is 100 % dedicated for men. Now, obviously we have, we have female listeners and actually some of our, but some of the best responses or most responses come from our female viewers. Um, they've been very receptive of this show and and a lot of them are, you know, it's nice to see guys like you, uh, on here and opening up and being vulnerable and sharing your feelings and, and giving other men an outlet. So, you know,

Speaker: Um, yeah, me guys come on here and share a little bit, get their feelings out there and show a little bit of vulnerability. Absolutely. That's, that's the name of the game on Monday nights, you know, for me. Yeah. So ah Lord knows I've done it. yeah but We've done a couple of shows where I've had to turn my camera off for a minute because I've, I've, I've gotten choked up and had the tears going. Some of the conversations we've had.

Speaker: So so the car just drive by or or do we? Yeah, swat or we have SWAT there right now. No, just the car driving by. and I just said, don't worry about it. Russia just fired a nuke. Yeah, it's it's gorgeous. it's it's It's gorgeous outside. And I love being outside. But when it's hot, I mean, I don't like being out here. But it's it was like a perfect night. And I was like, I think I'm going to go sit on the patio and do the show and eat us.

Speaker: Uh, fortunately no, but I got my two friends behind me that are watching my back. I got spike and Henrietta. They're big giant spiders that have built webs right behind me. And I turned the light on on purpose so that they can get food. He said, as long as they stay up there, the moment they come in the house, it's game on. it You leave them alone. did Did you want to wrap this up soon? I know you need to eat and, uh,

Speaker: Yeah, we're we're running into the two hour mark. If if you guys just keep going, that's fine, but I got to roll out here. Yeah, I know I get that. yeah a bath and The other two need to get to bed too. so thank well take hundred Thank you.

Speaker: Thank you. Can you wave at me one more time? can't you you

Speaker: <unk> bring it there you go Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and dip out gentlemen Michael It was really nice to actually finally put a face to the name and get to talk to you like go fuck yourself. Love you, buddy Yeah,

Speaker: these's good people no Connors Connors great people, you know, you brought up that you brought up the comment earlier about people having agendas and and and snakes in the grass. that's one That's something I like to use. And I've actually made a TikTok about that. I used to do these silly little things. It was just a way for me to deal with things. um And that's one of my sayings is, you know, snake in the grass, make sure it's it's skin, but once it's bitching, it's going to bite you again.

Speaker: So, you know, I've dealt, I've gone through those phases and and we've had a little rough Rocky ride, but I've got a solid core guys. We watch out. We watch each other's backs. We, we take care of each other. We're there to support and motivate each other. and And even, even not just the guys, but you know, we, we talked about it last week when ah here on Monday night, we had the Southern outlaws was here.

Speaker: Arliss, who's in the chat, and Dave was on here. And as I, as I call her, Mama Sandy was in the building with us. And we were talking about having that good, that good support system, that, that system that's going to be behind you and, and support you and be there and help you and everything like that. And, you know, it took me a couple of years, but I put together a good team of guys. And even on the outside, I've made some, some lasting friendships and some new bonds with Arliss and his guys and And a couple other people that I've met through doing interviews and and we do, we support each other. Yeah. We uplift each other and and we keep each other, you know, ah especially these guys, man, they, they on the days where I'm not feeling it, man, they're right there. They keep me motivated. You know, i and it's, it's an amazing feeling to have that circle because for so long for me, I had that circle of snakes. And now it's like, I've gotten, I've gotten all the snakes out in my yard.

Speaker: And now I just keep a good crew of people around me and and a positive group of people around me and people that not only want to see us succeed and see me succeed, but I want to see them succeed and grow as well. So, you know, we all have the same mindset and that's to look out for one another and and and to push each other to be better. I like the network part. I like that you're.

Speaker: you know, hand picking people and you give people an opportunity on Saturdays to come up and and and speak their mind but you also have the ability to rush and flush them if they get crazy, right? yeah But i but i I feel you're youre very patient and and I do like the direction you're going in where you're worrying more about the content because you want stuff that can get played again.

Speaker: yeah And it's being recorded, right? It's like, this is forever out there. Yeah. It's, it's live on the interwebs. It's out there for anybody and everybody to see. And then I, then I, you know, behind the scenes, i I take it and I pull the audio and I throw it up onto the, it's on Spotify and Apple and so many other platforms. Again, we're on platforms and I blows my mind that we have any business being on, but we're there. That's good. But that's, that's the way it is. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: And I love it, but it's out there. I mean, what, and everything's raw, everything's live. I don't edit anything. I used to sit down and edit stuff and take portions out or, and it's just like, no, it takes, it it takes away from what we're doing. I'm just putting what you get when we're live is what you're going to get. If you listen to us on Spotify or if you're watching the replay on, on YouTube or Facebook, it's it's right there, you know, flaws and everything.

Speaker: I, I, I do need to go, but, um, I just, I would love to spend like maybe two minutes just discussing one little thing. And it's yeah the consistency of doing this. Five to six times a week that the energy that it takes to do that can be exhausting. And and even though you love it, like you said, to have.

Speaker: Around you people at times that can elevate you and get you going like give you a push start a boost. Oh, yeah and I I do I'm doing Monday Tuesday Wednesday every other Thursday Saturday and now Sunday. Mm -hmm So on the Thursdays and that I don't have to do anything in Fridays. I don't have to do anything. It's like Okay time to breathe We're going to take this, we're going to take this time to breathe and, and, and get ready to get into Saturday and start the week over again. But I, I mean, I have had, I have had days where it's like, man, I'm not really feeling it. And we'll switch that a little bit behind behind so backstage and before we start to show. And by the time we're ready to start to show, it's like, boom, that, that fire's relit because the guys are there. We're talking, we're, we're ready to go. We're ready to have fun. Or if it's a Tuesday.

Speaker: And I had a bad day at work. My guests usually come in a little bit early and we get to chit -chatting and it's like, all right, I'm refueled. Let's go. The spark is, it's a fire now. like so but But someone who's starting know that the first broadcast is not going to be great. It's going to take about 50 before you start to get your stride. I've been doing this 12 years.

Speaker: 12 years I've been broadcasting and I was a lot more hyper at the beginning because I was nervous. I was really nervous at the beginning. And I was worried about what I was gonna say and what if I ran out of things to say. where If you do it, like it's a skill set. Not many people can come and do something for like two to three hours. that that's That's a marathon a you know to do content for even 20 minutes.

Speaker: for some is absolutely freaking terrifying. If you get someone to speak in front of a crowd and within two minutes where I think people like you and I, we feed off that. We love it. That's our juice, right? And I think people who are performers could also be comedians or could be actors or could do commercials or they could do podcasts and stuff.

Speaker: I'm going to go buddy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for letting me but be part of this experiment. Absolutely. And I appreciate you coming up for a little bit. Yeah. And I hope to see you more in the future. And I love the football. You can tell I'm passionate about that. yeah Now, how yesterday was fun how do I do this and not kill everything or are you going to leave? Are you, are you staying?

Speaker: Uh, I'm going to stay just for a few minutes longer, just to wrap everything up. I got one more. We got a closing song while playing. If I press leaving studio, would that be okay? Yeah. Yeah. You should be able to leave studio and that'll be fine. There you go. Feel like that. I appreciate him looking out for us and not not end into ending the stream accidentally. Shout out to Connor for coming up tonight. you know I do look forward to Mondays and getting to hang out with Connor a little bit. you know We've got to see Mike a couple times here in the last couple of days. Nice seeing a new face. Come on and and and partake in the conversation, obviously. That's what we're here for on Monday nights, man. And and you know I do apologize. We didn't have anything planned tonight.

Speaker: Put that on me. I'm a I'm a little little scatterbrained right now, but nonetheless Hopefully you guys enjoyed the show. We appreciate all of you guys being here Chatter's box man. You guys are awesome as always Seen some new faces in the chatter's box tonight. That's cool. Hopefully you guys will check out the other shows um Like I said, it is a whole network here You know the nonsensical network It's it's come a long way in the last three years, you know to be where we are now and and I'm loving it. um I'm enjoying it and do a little rundown here of the shows for you. Monday nights is Connor and myself, this show right here, men caring for men. It's a men's mental health podcast. And sometimes it's just about having a good conversation with your friends ah to to get your head right, to get you feeling right, get you feeling good. and Sometimes that's what we do. Like tonight, nothing was planned. We just came in and hung out.

Speaker: and whatnot. But it is an open panel. We always have the link in the chat. I have to get better about remembering to do that when we come back from breaks and and and announcing it. So that is an open invitation to all men. All men are welcome to come up anytime and and either partake in the conversation or if you got something on your mind and and and something is weighing heavy on you and you just want to talk to somebody who's not going to judge you, who's not going to make you feel bad about yourself. Well, where are your guys? Come on in and hang out with us and let's chat. Tuesday nights is Glick's house of music. That's me hanging out with, uh, up and coming local artists and, and, and bands and musicians, songwriters, you know, if it's in the music world, I want to sit down and, and I want to hang out with them. It's not your typical interview. It's not that boring run of the mill. Let me ask you the same questions you've been asked 150 ,000 times.

Speaker: It's literally hanging out, having, having fun conversation, getting to know them. Uh, obviously we do have some of the boring questions in there, but more of a hangout. Let's get to know them. Let's get to hear some of their music. Let's, let's see how they are. Uh, you know, let's get to know them as a person. Wednesday nights, we get a little wacky on Wednesday nights. It is what the fuck news. Uh, if it's in the news and it makes you say what the fuck? Well, we're going to talk about it. We're going to add our own little comedic spin on it, so to say.

Speaker: Every other Thursday is Cassius corner. That's hosted by my son. I'm the co -host and we're hanging out. We're talking wrestling. Yeah. We're both big wrestling fans. So, uh, you know, it's a fun show to do with my son and, uh, and, and, and we, uh, Encourage anybody who wants to come up and be a guest to let us know. And we'll we'll make that happen as well. We'll talk a little wrestling Friday nights is whose argument is it anyways hosted by blaze.

Speaker: And as Blaze says, it's not your typical debate. It's a nonsensical debate. They're doing a little bit of everything right now. Blaze is trying to find his quote unquote niche at the end of the day. He's trying to find his footing and find out exactly what it is he wants to do with that show.

Speaker: um but he's having fun with it and and I love seeing him do his thing. He's usually bringing random guests up there or one of us from the network will be up there hanging out with him, doing our thing. Saturday nights is the flagship show. It is the show that started this brainchild of the network that I decided to do. It is nonsensical nonsense. It's unhinged. It's unapologetic. It's guys hanging out, talking shit, having fun, drinking.

Speaker: You know, just having a good time guys and girls, you know, we invite anybody and everybody. We call it the open door challenge. And we drop that link in the chatters box. And all you gotta do is click on it. And we just ask that you turn your camera on and please don't show us your Peter. Cause nobody wants to see your pecker at the end of the day. Um, basically the inmates take over the asylum and run wild on Saturday nights.

Speaker: But then we wrap up on Sundays with, uh, Jeff garage, Jeff and Benji, if it's got a motor and it fits into garage, they're going to talk about it. And right now during the football season, your kick, your, your, your new kickoff show, uh, is unnecessary roughness. That's hosted by myself, my co -host Derek, uh, Cam is up there with us as well when he can be.

Speaker: And, uh, Bathurst will come up with, uh, as, as he wants as well. He said he'd like to be a part of that. He loves talking football. So that we're just talking football. We're making our picks for the week. I think we're going to incorporate, uh, some fantasy talk in there as well. But yeah, there's a lot going on here on the nonsensical network. And we're on Facebook, Instagram, X, tick tock, watch us live. Uh, all the shows are live on YouTube. Um,

Speaker: Uh, on, on YouTube, Twitch, Facebook, we're, we're, we're in the waters of rumble. We're checking out, we're checking out rumble. Uh, and you can listen to us anytime, any place. Appreciate you being here all the time. Love you, bro. I love you, brother. Um, and we're, we're on all the podcasting platforms as well. You just give us a, give us a little Google search if you want the nonsensical network or just simply go to a bio link. It's always scrolling right down there at the bottom of the screen all night long.

Speaker: on all the shows bio dot link slash nonsensical network. All our links are there. We do have merch as well if you guys are interested in that. And if you do buy merch and you want to send us a picture as long as you don't care, we'll ah throw it up on the on the socials and shout out for it. You know, our little way of saying thank you for supporting us and and helping us do what we do around here, you know, at the end of the day. I feel like I've got all my all my all my stuff out there.

Speaker: um I should have asked Bathurst to shout out his his his stuff. um But yeah, so hopefully you guys are enjoying everything. We're gonna wrap it up with a with a little music here from the Southern Outlaws Band. We decided, Connor and I decided this is gonna be our outro, our good friends over at the Southern Outlaws Band with their song, Good for the Soul. I think that's exactly what this show's about. And it's a hell of a song, so.

Speaker: It's good for the soul

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Speaker: It's good for the soul.

Speaker: Oh, yeah. I fucking love that song. Anyways. Appreciate y 'all. Listen, appreciate y 'all being here. Chadder's box. Thank you guys again. Replay viewers. Thank you guys for checking us out. If you're not already, make sure you hit that follow and subscribe button. Turn your notifications on. That way, you know what we do when we do, baby. Tune in tomorrow night. Eight o 'clock. Glick's House of Music right here. Same nonsensical channel. Same nonsensical time for my ah special guest, AJG. He'll be hanging out with me for a little bit.

Speaker: We'll be talking to him. It'll be a good time. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, like I say every Monday night, a successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others have thrown at him. Keep throwing. I'm going to keep building, baby. Be good or be good at it. See you guys next Monday.

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