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C2 Ep. 32 Eberron Reviewed 6
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This week it is time for another Eberron Reviewed as the group looks back on one of the most chaotic arcs to date in this campaign! You won’t want to miss this one!
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Introduction and Credits
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The following episode is brought to you by the generous donations of Laura Pickron, Darryl Delaney, Darren Katska, Deavius Poptart, Irene Villarito, Ryan Royce, Andy Dossett, Danielle Bramhall-Smith, Elizabeth Clark, Eric Whitman, Jessica Smith, Charles Compton, Natasha Rallerson, Richard Cree, The Cam Family, David Scrams,
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Dustin Troop, Edvard Arnoff, Michael Clark, Rebecca Gowman, and Shelby Johnson, as well as all of our generous patrons.
Podcast Hosts and Recent Arc Discussion
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Eberron Renewed, an actual play podcast set in the Eberron campaign setting using the Genesis game system. My name is Jeff. I'm Philip. I'm Randy. And I'm Eric. And as you can tell, Trevor is not with us tonight. He couldn't make it. But this is not a normal episode. This is a reviewed episode where we re-litigate the things that upset us over the last four weeks.
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So what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk about the last arc, the last, and downtown episodes, the last four episodes. Eric's gonna enlighten us with some of the things that he was thinking as he created it, and we have a bunch of listener questions to get
Mission Brief: Retrieving the Ledger
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to. So quick rundown of the arc. We are assigned a job, not even by Vigo, by somebody that we've come to find out is Vigo's fixer,
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And it's pretty clear pretty quickly. Well, we don't know a lot. We know that we are to travel to the... Oh my goodness. What's the name of the place that fallen?
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The fallen, I thought it was like fallen realms or the fallen place. Just the fallen district. Yeah. Gotcha. We are tasked to go to the fallen to retrieve a ledger that could likely has incriminating evidence in it.
Mission Challenges and Ambush
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We decide to pop over because the peer lads do their work near the fallen and we made such a great impression on their leader, such a great impression that I can't remember his name right now and I have written it down, I just didn't grab my notebook.
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Tolven. Tolven. We decided to try to get an idea of what this place is like, and it becomes very clear. Or Tarval. Tarval, not Tolven. Tarval. I don't know his name. Tarval. Tarb. Tarb Farm. It becomes pretty evident that this is likely a suicide mission. He pretty much even says so. He's like, yeah, either that. I mean, there's a win-win for him. Either you die, or he looks good for sending the right team in to do a hard thing. We go in. We're immediately ambushed by some ravers.
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They really do his dirty. They do a number on us. Yeah. Luckily, we can see the temple we're supposed to go to. And then when we get in there, just all sorts of double dealings and spies and undercovers.
Comedic Mishap and Ledger Discovery
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And Raynard really beefs it. Raynard absolutely beefs it. But he's not here to defend. Well, he can't defend a bad role. He just had a bad role. Eric made Raynard absolutely beef it.
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But we find out that one of the members of the other organization is actually an undercover dark lantern. He doesn't want to give us the book. He tries to out him. We get the book, we go back. And we'll talk about the Downtown episode when we have some questions about it.
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Yeah. So I actually wrote down the first question in our campaign discussion section, because I have questions as we are going, but I can't put them in the main discord because, you know, episode's not out yet.
Fear Checks and Ledger Inspiration
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Why was the fear check a daunting check
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considering we knew this was likely to happen, and we didn't know that these guys were as absolutely devastating as they were, I guess is my question. Well, A, that was a pre-made monster from the realms of Terenov core rule book, and on its monster card it says, a daunting fear check. So just mechanically that was baked in. But I think it's kind of like,
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I don't know, if you're going on a hike and I say, be careful, there's bears out there, so just be mindful. And then you see a bear, I don't feel like your awareness that a bear might come is going to affect the amount of poop that ends up in your pants, if that makes sense, like. I mean. That is very true, that actually happened to me in Colorado. Beware, there could be bears out there, and there was a bear out there, and yeah.
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You say you blew out your pants on the podcast? No, I didn't blow out my pants, but I did take off. I was far enough away that I could make it back to the cabin. But I was close enough to the cabin. I thought I had a good head start.
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And so he failed the scare check and ran. He did the Raynard thing. You know, I guess my thought is, you know, there's too dumb to be scared. Like I know what a bear is. I know that I should be scared of that bear. Very, very scared. I don't know. It doesn't matter. I just that was in my head. That was the first thing I thought was why four? Because I'm going to I'm going to fail it. And I did.
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Well, and, and yeah, I mean, it's like you were warned about these things in a very, I don't want to say vague way, but I mean, Tarvel has never seen one. So he's just like, Hey, people talk about these, these people that roam and I didn't do a good job of, of.
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describing visually what they look like really and so seeing one leap out of the shadows with super long claws that are the equivalent of lightsabers in the star horse role-playing game uh yeah not in length in in devastation yes yes in mechanics within the system so yeah okay um okay fine
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Uh, so Eric wants to know, where did the inspiration for the ledger come from? Uh, I, oh, I guess it is fairly important to say that the ledger, it turns out was, uh, something that Kylie had been keeping and had put a message in it to this undercover agent. Like here's the evidence of underhandedness that could help you. So the ledger was far more important than just being a, well not McGuffin, I guess, but
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A fetch job. Yeah. Yeah. You know what we didn't deal with at all in character? We just learned. A lot. Well, yeah. But we just learned that Milo's wife was a snitch. We're in a gang and we just learned that Milo's wife was snitching to the cops.
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Yeah, and that's definitely playing in Milo's head. I mean, I can see why none of our characters would say that to our friend Milo, who's having a bad enough time. Your dead wife. But yeah, that came in our mind and it's not been... We're gonna have to deal with that at some point.
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Yeah, I like ever since Randy pitched his character background to me of Kylie being dead in this fire and kind of leaving it up to me to determine what that meant.
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I was kicking a bunch of ideas back and forth. And honestly, I think it might have been an episode of the Manifesto where they were talking about criminal activity in Eberron or something. And something that Keith Baker said just kind of sparked that initial idea of the idea of Kylie being a snitch and potentially that playing a factor.
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in her demise, and so it's all still shrouded in mystery, obviously, so I'm not gonna get too deep into it, but the initial inspiration actually came from the hat himself. I do not remember what he said, I do not remember what episode it was, so don't ask me, but yeah, I thought that would be a really compelling
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idea, especially given that Milo and Kylie are the most tenured members of the clan, having worked with them for a long, long time.
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It very much further snowballed out of the fact that Randy has said that Milo, prior to Kylie's death, was not the smart one. He ran the bar and Kylie was the brains of the operation. It made sense that if keg bottoms was a part of the clan,
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and all that stuff, then Kylie would be the one kind of doing what Milo does now. Like she would have been looking at numbers and stuff like that. So that was the inspiration for the ledger and kind of the circumstances surrounding that whole plot as it was introduced.
Goblin Language and NPC Play
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Laura asks, what's Eris using the goblin word? Did you pronounce it Koss? Okay. I don't listen to anybody but me. So Eris uses the goblin word.
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I mean, it's been going okay so far. Eris uses the goblin word Koss. The specific line that you say is, you're part of my Koss. What does that goblin word mean? Koss is one of the, is from Don Bastionthwaite's legacy of DeCon series and made it into the exploring Eberron goblin glossary. It's
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so there's a kind of word you get in languages that's like my favorite kind of well my second favorite kind of word my favorite kind of word is like the super bizarrely specific words that you get in german um but there are words that mean like 18 000 different things in context
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Uh, and cost is the goblin word. Um, costs means five. It's a number word. It also means hand. Um, and it's also the first person plural pronoun we us, and it's also the military term for a squad. And so it is my group, my, your part of us. All right.
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I do appreciate that Laura is able to pick out, because I should just assume it's another word you're saying that I don't know, and like just moving on trying to use context clues and dumbing on down the road. Laura asks, Eric, how was it playing Alundra and Sifist? Those are the
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The Sifist is the undercover Dark Lantern and Alundra. I'm not telling you guys. I'm reminding the listeners. Eric, I know you wrote this. I almost made like a Mr. Shakespeare can I explain Hamlet to you joke but then that does not fair to Mr. Shakespeare. No offense, Eric. Anyway.
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How was it playing Alundra and Sifist when one's trying to figure the other one out and one's trying to keep his cover? This is a good question. It is a good question. Is it difficult to think as both of them simultaneously? Follow up, did you even attempt to think simultaneously? Is that a thing within your... anyone's? I mean, it's a deal where, like...
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One of the ways that I prep for these sessions when I know that they're going to be in PCs baked in that the party is going to talk to. So anytime there's like a conversation that happens that was clearly put there by me.
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you all can be sure that prior to the session, I have mentally played through that conversation about 12 to 15 times and thought, okay, they might say this or they might do this. And then inevitably, Eris outs the undercover dark lantern in the middle of the conversation and I go, well, I didn't think of that, so let's see what happens.
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But yeah, so, so the Elendre and Sif is thing to answer the question, I spend a lot of time thinking through their motivations and how they would act and kind of not rehearsing their lines, like I'm not canning their their dialogue, but just trying to very much get in that place to where I don't have to think about what they would say or how they would act. And so
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getting into that place prior to the conversation helps because then I can have moments where I describe Cephas like turning his head drastically towards a ledger when she mentions the ledger, trying to infer that Cephas didn't know that she had the ledger kind of stuff. And so it's it's not difficult because I spend an unreasonable amount of time preparing for it. If a conversation like that were sprung on me, then it would probably be harder. So
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But yeah, it was fun. I enjoyed playing multiple people in a conversation who had secrets from one another. So that's always fun. All right. Shelby asks, Hob mentions he will never have an office. If he were to have one, what would he decorate it with? This is all I can think of after hearing him say that.
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What Hobb meant, or what I meant when I said Hobb will never in an office, is just simply that Hobb has no desire of upward mobility. He doesn't want to be a manager. That sounds awful. If you were to have an office, you would not decorate it. I mean, Hobb is aesthetic. He just is. And I don't even think
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I don't think it's a philosophical choice. I think it's purely a comfort thing. The less I accumulate, the less I concern myself with, the less I will be concerned. And I have enough to be concerned about, have you met these three yabbos that I run around with? It's like Ryan from the office when he says, if I were to get laid off, I could pack up all my things in two minutes and nobody would ever know I was here. And I'd forget to. And I'd forget to.
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Yeah, I mean, yes and no, like that's not his motivation. But yes, that's the idea. Honestly, if Hob was told, if Paloma, I did it again, I keep wanting to call her Paloma, my landlord. Anyway. Paloma is my very own cousin. Sanora.
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Like if Savia told Hob, like if they had a disagreement, she'd be like, get out. He would be like, okay. And just, I mean, with the exception of one, the personal belonging, he would literally be able to walk out the door. Like if they were downstairs. Cause he can get another couple sets of robes. I mean, Eric asks, is Milo going to market his form of physical therapy to a wider audience such as CrossFit medicine?
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Milo, actually, he already has a business plan he's working on to approach Satan with. He just hasn't mentioned it to Hobb yet. I'm going to open a gym. Instead of a bar, it's going to be keg bottoms gym. That might be a double reference to both the way that Randy got tougher, but the way that Randy getting tougher fixed Hobb's injury with that percussive therapy. So the problem there is we have established
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Goliaths are not plentiful in shorn. You may not have a lot and like yes, you're small, but you still be punching a human right in the gut So I don't know I don't know that it's the most Patience must be this tall to enter Yeah, or you just you walk in and there's just a stool you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah That's gonna be a whole thing
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Uh, Eric, uh, continues. Will Eris use her artifice to turn the force?
Downtime and Character Skills
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Oh, okay. Downtime episode. Uh, let's, let's get to that real quick. So the downtime episode was simply this. Uh, Ulfin has, uh, during this arc at the beginning of this arc, Ulfin was basically told by House Galanda, you owe us $500.
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In addition, you must lower your prices to the standard that we set. In addition, you must continue to feed yourself and house yourself so you have to make money at the same time. And Ulfin seemed like that would be difficult to him. And I wish I would have gone into more detail as to the awarding of that because in my head it was the letter said, congratulations.
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you passed the house Galanda inspection. Please give us $500 so we can send you your license right away. Yeah, it's a very good job thing. Now give us money for your license. It's who's who to work at high school students. Except for mandatory. Yeah. So he sends us to another restaurant that has recently become very successful all of a sudden.
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and just kind of to figure out what it was. We have the conversation with the owner, turns out, she doesn't have a lot of germane advice, unfortunately, which is fair. I don't know what Ulfin was thinking, like, hey, they're successful, go see what they do. Well, she does the things that she has the skillset for, Ulfin, but maybe you should figure that out. But
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But yeah, so but one of the main things was she used to be an adventurer. She is an artificer. She had a bunch of empty. Basically, it's just armor, right? It's not there's no clockwork in there. It's the more intimate. It's the monster animated armor that she basically manipulated to be friendly.
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There you go. I'm not super friendly. I did grab Aeris several times. But more friendly than I was. With no harm. I know. I'm just messing around. Don't touch people. In fairness, Aeris tried to high five it multiple times. That is also true. But so with that in mind, especially the clockwork and Aeris throughout the episode showed interest in nothing but the clockwork bits.
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Eric asks, and I gotta scroll back to it now, will Eris use her artifice to turn the four sails into Chuck E. Cheese with a pirate theme, or perhaps Country Bear Jamboree? I mean, the thing is this, that is just revolting to Philip.
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Like that idea of taking this cool pirate bar and catching it up like that is just utterly, utterly revolting to Eric or to Philip. I think to Eric also, I hope, because I consider Eric a man of taste.
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But yeah, I mean, if someone suggests that Eris would just be all over it. Following up on that, I mean, does Eris, do you think, Phil, and I know it would come down to roles ultimately, but is Eris at a place where she could do what,
00:20:17
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Was done at the consistent bird? Well, I don't know what would be involved in obtaining that, you know, a monster, a monster construct and re-purposing it. I think Eris is definitely in a place where she could build an automaton. Okay, sure.
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I don't know how long it would take and I imagine it would be really expensive to get all the parts she would need. So I'm fairly confident that unless Eris could luck into all of the necessary parts the way that... I'm sorry, I also don't have my notebook the name of the consistent birds owner.
00:21:00
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Raffan. Raffan, that's what he is. Raffan. The way that Raffan did, if Aerys could look into that, look into all the materials, the way that Raffan did, or get the scavengers from Boromar to find her the stuff. If she could find a supply of the stuff she needs cheap, she probably could. But if it's as far as like the way Aerys could build it now with the materials she has available to her, it would look terrible. Like it would work.
00:21:27
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Like, Eris could make it work, but it would look just horrifying. Like, you would be... Turned into a junkyard themed restaurant. It would be like the bit in the first Toy Story movie where you go into Sid's room and all of the Frankenstein toys come out. Like, that's what it would be like. So people would walk in and then scream and flee.
00:21:52
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I think it sounds like a great idea then, I mean. Yeah, and I guess that is what I meant. Yeah, I didn't assume you would have any idea or anything if she could reanimate a monster construct. I think she could totally build a robot waiter. I think she could totally do that. I will pull back the curtain and let you guys know that the simple act of remembering an NPC's name caused me to throw my hands in the air like I just cracked renewable energy. I don't think it was the dumbest thing to be that proud of.
00:22:22
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Rafen Luger. I made the last part of it. I updated my notes. It'll be on the wiki eventually. If you're ever in Brooklyn, you want to have a pretty good steak that's darn near worth the money, try Peter Lugers. You know, later. Hashtag not a sponsor.
00:22:47
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More practically, Aeris could probably automate a lot of things at the sales without having to build a waitstaff. Like she could probably do a lot of things like that. She could totally do the cups of cooling. Like that she could absolutely make happen. All I want now is for Aeris to just straight up chitty, chitty, bang, bang the four sales.
00:23:10
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Or Peewee's big adventure, if you're unfamiliar with Chitty Bang Bang. So you want her to make everything sentient? Because there's a distinction. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Chitty, Chitty Bang Bang, the breakfast scene. I mean, as we've seen, she could do that.
00:23:25
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Fully automated breakfast thing. I was thinking it was like all the furniture being alive in Pee-wee's split house kind of thing. No, because Pee-wee's Big Adventure also starts with an automated breakfast. As does the John Turturro film brain donors. I'm back to the future. I feel like we could achieve coldest beer in Sharn. I feel like that's within Aeris's reach, and I feel like that would be an excellent advertising scheme. Yeah.
00:23:49
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There is a razor thin margin. I know. No, I. For being the coolest. And you guys won't see Aeris for the next three months. And Raynard is going to have to just stay at the bar and drink while Aeris passes in until Aeris finds exactly what the razor thin margin is for every drink that Ulfin carries. This arc was the retirement of Aeris. Philip will be debuting his next character in the next session. So anyway. OK.
00:24:20
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That was a joke. It's a kobold. So we're going to be jumping back now, probably in the arc just for the listener, taking questions from a different channel in
Character Routines and Leadership Discussion
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the Discord server. So there's going to be some reashing possibly. So Kurt asks, so everyone run us through your character's morning routine. I love this question. Thank you, Kurt. That was great. I mean, I'll go first because it's easy. Haba wakes up, like,
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does whatever sort of ablutions are appropriate. I mean, I assume if he was particularly dirty, he would have taken care of that before he went to bed. So like, oh, you know what, the first thing he does when he wakes up though is pop the earbud that Eris gave him in and try to find something, some music to soundtrack his routine with. He gets up, puts that in, cleans himself off. If he's got time, maybe makes a little music himself
00:25:22
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goes down, Savia hooks him up with a little quick breakfast and he's out the door. If he doesn't have anywhere to be, he doesn't go anywhere. He chills in his room listening and playing until it's time to go somewhere. Eris, probably, I kind of imagine the Eris goes to bed when she cannot stay awake anymore.
00:25:49
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Like that's, that's Eris's tendency is to be awake until she cannot be awake and then go to sleep until she wakes up. Um, she probably proceeds with whatever project she was working on until she realizes that she hasn't eaten. Oh, she's Jeff. And then at that point, uh, washes and considers whether her clothing is too disheveled and therefore needs changing.
00:26:15
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and probably decides that it's not, and then goes downstairs and eats in the bar. That's probably her routine. And then starts working on a project in her booth. Oh, I will say, Hab has several
00:26:35
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quote unquote outfits. The thing he wears, he has several of them and all he knows is that he puts it outside the door and it shows up in his room clean a couple days later. It's just part of the service of having a room, it's obvious, and she's like, it's no skin off my nose to go and do it for you too. He doesn't know they get washed by a person. He doesn't think it's magic. Sorry.
00:27:07
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Milo wakes up and the first thought in his head is, Kylie isn't here. He gets up and then he opens the music box that Raynard gave him to listen to his song as he gets ready before going downstairs to a fine breakfast prepared by his mother before he heads out the door.
00:27:34
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Eris probably actually only ever cleans herself by way of prestidigitation.
00:27:52
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No, I just wanted to share, uh, Catherine Sano wake up before the sun every morning and jog somewhere between five to seven miles before their day starts. And they go have breakfast and then go do some training. And then probably around the time that Eris is waking up, they're down, uh, in the four sales doing their thing. So do they have privileges of training in the Boromar meat locker? Yes. Yes. Tenderizing that meat. Yep.
00:28:24
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You know, I should know this. I mean, I should know a lot of things. Do half elves have to sleep? Yeah. I know that elves do not. Half elves do. Okay, just wondering. And then Sigil doesn't need to sleep, and their morning routine lately is just looking at stuff about the schema. That's all they've really been doing for a while now, so.
00:28:52
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Yeah, I really need to check in with Sigil and see if they're slowly descending into madness because all they're doing is spending literally 24 hours a day staring at these papers. Aris tried. Like, Aris spends a day asking them questions every couple of minutes and it's not, uh, not working. So I guess my question is, was Aris asking them questions about what they were looking at and working on? Cause, cause Hobbs would be like, Hey buddy, you, um,
00:29:20
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Do you want to go for a walk or something? I mean, from Eris's perspective, asking about the project is asking how they are doing. Yeah. I completely get that. Yeah. As far as Raynard's morning routine, I'll just go ahead and answer for Trevor. He wakes up and he rolls over until somebody throws a bucket of cold water on his head. He figures out where he is.
00:29:49
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And then he goes... Has him a muscle. Yeah. Steve asks, uh, the introduction of Viggo feels like a real turning point. Yeah. Uh, which characters are planning on waiting to see if he gets better? Which ones are thinking about leaving the Boromars or is it too soon to be having these thoughts? I mean, I answered this in the downtime. Eris has a go bag packed and
00:30:19
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As soon as it either gets bad enough for her to run on her own, or she can convince at least Hob to run, then she's good to go. Um, Hob has no illusion that Vigo is going to get better. Uh, Hob thinks the only way that it gets better is if Vigo gets a new position, but he's also not in the river.
00:30:48
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Okay, that is that is certainly one. Hobb is just he's also not like, Oh, got to get out of here. But he he he is aware that that might happen. He's also very aware of areas is bag being packed. Sure. I mean, even if he doesn't know that it is, he knows that it is, you know. So I think Milo
00:31:17
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Myles used to the Boromars. He kind of probably already knew how Vigo was. So he just kind of assumes it's just that's just par for the course. So, you know, he's not ready. I mean, his life is there. He's not planning on going anywhere unless absolutely no other choice. OK.
00:31:41
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Next one, and I apologize. I don't know if this is pronounced Stefan or Stefan. Are you, you know, all right. Well, uh, let us know if you would like to hear your name pronounced correctly. We will make sure that we do that. Um, just let us know. Uh, but they ask just wondering if quote unquote cold door got Milo's and Reynard's names.
00:32:02
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are the Dark Lanterns not good enough detectives to spend a day looking into, oh, and there was a Goliath and a blue-haired girl with them. And Mr. Kegbottom and Mr. Turnveil seem to hang out at this one tavern a lot. And hey, there's a Goliath and a blue-haired girl there a lot too. We are all very aware of what happened, okay, Stephen? We all saw it. The problem is, I mean, once one person gives their real name,
00:32:27
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You're boned, it doesn't matter. I could come up with 60,000 different fake names, and I've been compiling fake names for Hob based solely on signs I see as I drive down the street. The only one I- What the hell are you denying this to us? Well, I haven't had an opportunity to because Raynard opens his big mouth every time. You could introduce yourself every job. I will say this, the only one that I wrote down and then crossed off the list as being too silly is Big Giant Muffler. Everything else is fair game.
00:32:59
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Yeah, so I mean, in regards to the Dark Lanterns and specifically Cephas, like, follow up with this arc, I mean, there are a multitude of ways that this could go, and honestly,
00:33:17
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It's the Dark Lanterns. Probably as soon as Cephas calls in and says, look up Kegbottom, they don't know everything about Milo, Kylie, Milo's mother, because they have a file on Milo already, because he's been part of the claim for so long. And perhaps on Kylie. And perhaps to assume he knew who Milo was. Yeah, presumably they've got a file on Kylie if she was a CI.
00:33:39
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Yeah. Um, which I said, did he know that that was Kylie? Did he know his contact was Kylie? I mean, that's true. Or did he just know her? He does now. Yeah. I'll tell you, if, if he didn't figure out that it was, it was Kylie after hearing your name keg bottom, he, any, any, any one of us could be his boss.
00:34:03
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I mean, it's a fantasy, you know, underbarrel, keg bottom, Bigfoot, little knee, like there's, well, may want to find Sifist again anyway. Yeah.
00:34:16
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Well, I don't know. That's gonna be a conversation. But no, I mean, to answer your question, yes. The Dark Lanterns are good enough detectives to probably spend less than a day locating all of these individuals and having them in the Citadel within two days. It's just a question of resource management. Are we worse at this point? Yeah.
00:34:47
Speaker
And the answer is no. We hope the answer is no. A personal vendetta from Sifist, we are worth it to him. But to the Dark Lanterns, we haven't done anything. But as informants, as people they can squeeze for information that the clan is not going to go to any effort to protect. Right. No, you're absolutely right there. We're low hanging fruit, I guess is what I mean.
00:35:18
Speaker
Yeah. OK, this one's from Becca. She says, I feel like the effects that despairs have outweigh the effects of triumphs when rolled. Do any of the players or Eric feel like this is true? I also feel like the system gives the GM an advantage of knowing more about the future plot and thus being able to know better what to do. Second part is more of a discussion point than a question. That's not my critique. That's all Becca's talking.
00:35:50
Speaker
No, we've talked a little bit about this as a group I think that yes
00:36:01
Speaker
It is fair to say, and obviously I'm going to have Eric speak on this with more authority, but I think it is fair to say that the triumphs tend to be, or the despairs tend to be bigger impacts than the triumphs. And I think a big part of that is because we are not pushing Eric hard enough with our triumphs. We could go bigger and he can decide what's big enough. And I think that a big part of that is to your second thing. We never know what's coming and he does.
00:36:28
Speaker
It's not felt unfair to me because that's the game I signed up for. It's uneven, but I don't know that it's unfair.
Game Mechanics and Narrative Balance
00:36:35
Speaker
The way that I said it earlier to these guys was sometimes in a game you see a return specialist mow down a punter.
00:36:45
Speaker
It really looks unfair. That's just the game they all signed up to play. So yes, I think that a big part of it is that we are more tentative with our triumphs because we don't know the story. We're more tentative with our triumphs because we don't know what's too much. That will fix itself as we calibrate everything, the not knowing what's too much thing. And I think we've actually said that more than once on a review. So go ahead, bud.
00:37:10
Speaker
Yeah, I feel it's for me. I feel it's I've never given it a thought so it must be fair enough for me.
00:37:19
Speaker
That's fair. No, and Jeff kind of hit the nail on the head in the fact that the triumphs could be bigger. And I'm certainly not an expert at thinking up triumphs on the fly. My despairs, I can write ahead of time. If a despair happens during this block of the session, this is what it can be used for.
00:37:48
Speaker
I have that benefit with the despairs also to kind of pre-plan them, but an example is going into the gala, a couple arcs back, where Reynard rolled a despair and, okay, Norsen Millhatch is present, and he knows your face.
00:38:05
Speaker
If he rolled a triumph on that roll, he could have equally said, Verla is at this party and she's actually investigating Primafit and she is going to be a potential ally moving forward with this encounter. That's a totally reasonable use of a triumph and completely swings a big portion of the scene in the favor of the PCs. And so, yeah, I mean, and it doesn't have to be
00:38:34
Speaker
Once again, it doesn't have to be related to the scene itself or the character that rolled it or anything like that, just like with despairs. And one of my favorite uses of it, and I think I've mentioned this on the show before, but it was the Dice Pool's actual play of the Realms of Tarnoff adventure that, that, um, FFG released where they like saw a group of bandits up ahead and one of the PCs rolled a triumph on their perception check and they said, Oh, I know one of them. Like, I think they said they're my cousin.
00:39:03
Speaker
It's like oh, okay And so stuff like that is totally reasonable within a triumph, but at the same time I don't I'm always reluctant to be the GM that stepping in and going here's what you all should use for the try like here's like right Yeah, I want to let you all do what you want to do kind of thing so yeah, I think um I
00:39:27
Speaker
Another part of it is it's all about the timing. When is it rolled? A triumph during combat, we're going to use it to end the combat, especially if Milo's on the ground and Raynard's 160 feet away. You know? If a triumph happens on a perception check because somebody wandered into the bar, it's hard for me to think of anything huge other than like, yeah, I guess I could have been like,
00:39:53
Speaker
you know, roller-percept sex, if you know him, you get a triumph. Do I know him? I saved his life. And yes, that could totally, so sure.
00:40:04
Speaker
But yeah, I think that that's I guess a good way to think about it is like a triumph is a brief moment in the session where you all are literally able to take the reins out of my hands for a second and say we're going this way and then give me the reins back. And then like if you roll three triumphs on a single roll, then it's like, OK, I'm going to drive for a bit. But but yeah.
00:40:25
Speaker
Um, so, so yeah, and I think that's just a virtue of getting used to the system. And also, I mean, we've had some, some off mic conversations about how
00:40:36
Speaker
Genesis is very much a game meant to be played around a table. And when we pick this system, obviously, none of us knew we would be doing this entire campaign to date virtually. And I think there's just a little bit lost with this system of not being around a table, getting to kind of spitball things, having to worry about the technical aspects of recording virtually, stuff like that. So I do think that also plays a bit of a role in that dynamic as well.
00:41:06
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's something I've never thought of is every time you roll a triumph, all four of us go, ah! If we were all doing that in person, just the adrenaline jolt would probably step up our game of what the triumph is exponentially. So hopefully, man, I was listening to the kids on bikes that we did to prep for the one shot I'm gonna do.
00:41:33
Speaker
And at one point we're like, yeah, we'll get through this one, then we'll probably be able to get around the table again and start the next game. It was a real, it was a real, yeah. I think on the review for that game I said, we really don't want to start campaign two until we can do it in person. Deal. Kevin asks, I'm listening to the raver fight and I have questions about how you're handling strain and wound thresholds. Why are you counting down from max rather than up from zero?
00:42:01
Speaker
characters aren't intended to go down until they've exceeded the threshold so Miley wouldn't go down until you suffer nine wounds and gets into the specifics of that situation. It also makes me wonder how Miley only has a wound threshold of eight. It seems impossible. I'll let you guys explain that math.
00:42:20
Speaker
Let's address that a bit and then we'll move on to the rest of what Kevin had to say. I can address this to the counting down versus counting up. I started playing D&D with hit points. It's all I've ever known sometimes. Now I am counting up on the character sheet on the tracker, but I might say like I only have four wounds left because... Yeah, what we mean is we have that many until we go down, which is the relevant fact that our...
00:42:45
Speaker
compatriots now the first time the first time I played Genesis I did treat wounds like hit points and at one point Chris looked over he goes you have 10 wounds I was like no yeah I mean I've only I've taken two it's it's fine I don't know which but yeah now as far as the going Eric or Randy as far as the you have to exceed your threshold before you go down just how we address that in the podcast versus how it sounded and all that stuff you guys went over that for a second
00:43:10
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's been an instance where Milo's gone down where the strain or damage he suffered didn't exceed the threshold. I think maybe the language we were using, because at that point, during the Raven fight, Milo did only have a wound threshold of seven, because I basically ported over the gnome race from Realms of Terenoth, and their starting wound threshold is six plus brawn.
00:43:40
Speaker
And Milo's got a one brawn, right? Am I correct about that? That's correct. Yep. Yep. His threshold actually was seven till that CrossFit. He's been working out.
00:43:55
Speaker
And then he has a cup Kevin continues on with a couple questions about for you Eric the Minions, how are you managing minion deaths minion thresholds? I mean Those words barely make sense to me, but it's not because of Kevin. It's because I did I don't I don't do this
00:44:16
Speaker
I mean, I'm handling them rules as written. Essentially, every minion has their own individual wound threshold, then they are pooled together. So a group of three minions who each have five wound threshold, I almost said five hit points, who each have a five wound threshold, they're pooled together would be 15. And then every time you pass an increment of five,
00:44:40
Speaker
one of them goes down. And if an attack deals seven damage, then effectively you've knocked one out of the fight and you've done two, you've inflicted two wounds on the next one. So it's not a stopgap where once you hit five, the damage stops. It continues over to where if you were to do 10 damage, you would take out two of them. So now I'm just following rules as written in terms of the minion wound threshold and deaths.
00:45:07
Speaker
And then lastly from Kevin. I realize there are two Kevin. This is Kevin. I don't want to use last names. Yeah. P. This is from Kevin. How are you handling group checks and why did you choose to have everyone roll separate checks for things like perception and stealth instead of doing one group check?
00:45:27
Speaker
Yeah, we've done a couple of group checks on the campaign where we've done like somebody's base ability and then skills from another character to kind of reflect the group working together as a whole. In terms of things like stealth checks or perception checks, things like that. I mean, perception checks being perfectly honest gives you all more of a chance to see the thing.
00:45:51
Speaker
Like that's, that's the simple answer that I have is I want to afford the players the most opportunity to know what's going on. And it's interesting to me to know who sees it because depending on what it is, which of us sees it matters.
00:46:06
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and from a different standpoint, I like when you say, if you want to roll knowledge nature, knowledge underworld, whatever, you can, because then we get to decide what's more important, a potential success or adding potential threat? Yeah. Yeah. Or a potential despair. Like, is this important enough for Hobb, who doesn't really have this stuff, this particular skill, to roll it and risk adding three threat to whatever this is? And I like that.
00:46:31
Speaker
um that choice that yeah cause benefit analysis that we have to do and if you think about the role when you made us do that in the bar i mean that would have been a key moment for milo to realize that the whatever the fixer i can't remember his name was you know glancing at him and and milo didn't see it milo didn't catch it
00:46:58
Speaker
Well, and Milo rolled a separate perception check also, I remember, because this is like in the show. It's part of it. It's not a spoiler to say because I described to them the exact same way and they have the exact same name. Just I was going to see if Randy, if Milo noticed in the moment. But back in a cold open that we did with Milo, the first cold open we did with Milo, a guy was eyeing Milo walking around and Milo went into a shop to ask about him.
00:47:25
Speaker
Like I said, his name's Jason. I know he does odd jobs around the district. So yeah, that was... Wait, are you saying that if I listen to thick parts I'm not in, I might learn things? Yes, yes. Sounds dumb.
00:47:43
Speaker
Before we move on to the new thing that we're going to do in Reviewed, I want to put out into the podcast something that went on in the Discord but wasn't actually an official question, but I think is worth addressing. And that is, I know Eric was one, Kevin was another.
00:48:03
Speaker
I'm sure there were others and I apologize, I didn't aggregate it. That had questions about, okay, wait a second, breach is supposed to be a quality of a lightsaber. How does this guy's fingernails able to do what a lightsaber can do?
00:48:14
Speaker
And it's a fair question. And I think that both Eric and Philip had some pretty thoughtful answers as to why. And some pretty straightforward answers as to why. And I wanted to, for those of you who enjoy our program and also know a lot about Star Wars FFG but aren't in the Discord, maybe you've been one of the same thing and I thought it'd be worth addressing.
00:48:34
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, I pulled an already prepped monster from Realms of Tarrinoth book, and that was the quality of its natural weapons. From a balance standpoint, yes, it has breach. However, its base damage is only two.
00:48:54
Speaker
So incredibly low base damage, but it's going to avoid all your soak. So that's the balance of that particular monster. Now getting into breach is a thing that lightsabers have. And it's the vehicle version of Pierce. I think that's the more important talking point is like artillery weapons have breach, whereas swords have pierce.
00:49:21
Speaker
Star Wars, the ships are made out of metal. So, Breach is gonna be a lot more powerful than in Eberron where most of the ships are made out of wood. And most of the vehicles are made out of wood. And so it's much more reasonable that somebody would have supernaturally strong nails that could cut through wood, then cut through like five inch thick steel, I guess. So, yeah. And Hopps just made out of people. People stuff. It's made from people.
00:49:51
Speaker
Um, yeah, well, and the point I was, I had made on the discord was, um, if that's our bar, well, this is used for a lightsaber and a piece of artillery there. Therefore it can't be for this. We're never going to use that then because we're not going to, I mean, hopefully no one's going to shoot cannons at us. Um, but.
00:50:18
Speaker
with our story, the power scale is different. And so a really horrible monster with really sharp nails might be to us the equivalent of somebody hitting us with a lightsaber if we were, you know, big epic pulp heroes in Star Wars. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a different world. And so it's going to have have different meanings. Eris is
00:50:47
Speaker
Eris can turn a blast function onto the Fletcher. Blast is a function of thermal detonators in the Star Wars FFG. I don't think the Fletcher competes with a thermal detonator, but they have similar... Give her time. Yes. I feel like Eris can make a thermal detonator. Building grenades is a good idea. Sorry, I'm distracted now. Go ahead.
00:51:15
Speaker
Yeah, well, we lost Philip to his machinations, but the rest of us are trying to answer more questions. So something that I threw out, so we do have two question asking tiers in the Discord. One is open for everyone, one is open for patrons at a certain level.
00:51:34
Speaker
Originally that was kind of a priority thing, but luckily we're able to bounce through some questions pretty quickly. We've not had to leave any off yet. So I opened it up for the QA tier to ask questions that aren't necessarily part of the arc. You can ask questions about as long as it's somewhat related to us, the characters, RPGs, whatever. And we got some fun ones.
00:51:58
Speaker
So, uh, just go down the list in the order they were asked. So Danny asks, how have things been between Eris and her mentor lately? Or is that something we're going to see soon? In which case, nevermind. Well, I can't answer what we're going to see soon. Um, we haven't recorded anything, uh, that's coming up. This is, we have nothing in the can. We're recording this for pretty much immediate release. Um, so I can't answer what will happen soon. Um, but I have told Eric,
00:52:29
Speaker
that Eris has not gone back to Olive's workshop since the job we did. I think I communicated fairly effectively in the episode that Eris was horribly embarrassed and ashamed that she had accidentally blown
00:52:51
Speaker
that she also is part of this criminal gang. And I think Eris assumes that since it's been several weeks and Olive has not come a calling or looked around to see where Eris is, that she correctly interpreted what Olive would think about that and is probably pretty heartbroken about it. Great. All of that's in Eris's head.
00:53:19
Speaker
I have no idea what Olive's, I mean, I assume Olive is probably thinking something similar in reverse would be my guess, but because she seems like a decent person. But yeah. Okay, Shelby asks a question for everyone.
Pandemic Life and Personal Insights
00:53:37
Speaker
He asks, how is everyone handling the pandemic? Is everybody doing okay?
00:53:42
Speaker
And then he adds, he wants to make sure that nothing outside of Eric's evil machinations is driving us too crazy. I will say that with the exception of about five months an hour, Eric's machinations are the least of my worries and everything is making me crazy. It's just me and my son. We have been very careful. I'm a teacher, which means I'm in the classroom, which means he has to be in the classroom. So obviously there are always concerns.
00:54:11
Speaker
but we're doing our best and only associating with people who are also doing their best and only occasionally and always outside, noise and masks. And that's the way that I'm maintaining my own mental health is by just controlling as much of my own and his safety as I can control. And yeah, am I doing okay? I feel like I am doing extremely well considering.
00:54:38
Speaker
If I felt like this two years ago, I would have been like, no, I'm not okay. Honestly, right now, I'm feeling okay. Well, I've already, uh, go Randy. Well, I supposedly have already had the virus through my mother, even though I tested negative twice and I was
00:55:08
Speaker
fairly ill, but never really got me down that bad. I mean, I went, you know, I'd go from one day feeling blah to the next day feeling pretty okay. So, you know, I'm not 100% sure I really did have it, but who knows? I don't know. Maybe I did. The headache and the dog barking. Go Kobe. So yeah, anyway, I feel fine.
00:55:37
Speaker
School's okay. Some kids are there. Some kids are not. Otherwise, I'm good. And my dogs are good. I'm okay. I teach also, so I'm in the classroom. I'm thrilled to be in the classroom, frankly. Teaching virtually was really hard for me. I talk with my hands. I use my tone a lot.
00:56:04
Speaker
dry in my humor and I pace when I'm thinking and having to sit still and teach was obviously a huge first world problem, but it was hard. So I'm happy to be back in the classroom. I'm okay. I've been so far lucky. None of my family. Everybody's dogs are just getting in on the action today.
00:56:30
Speaker
I would just like to note that Banjo has been at my feet the whole time and absolutely. Well, good for Banjo. She's the worst dog. She's just quiet. Neither as far as I know. I mean, obviously you can have it and be asymptomatic. But as far as I know, me, my wife and my daughter have all made it through without getting it, which is more than a lot of people can say. So I say we're fairly lucky. Yeah. I mean,
00:56:59
Speaker
Go crazy every now and again. I miss being in a room with these knuckleheads. Except for Jeff, you know. I mean, I get it. He knows what he did. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, that's. More than once he knows what he did. I would say he's proud of them.
00:57:30
Speaker
Okay. Thank you, Shelby, for checking in. Shelby is relatively new to the Discord. We have been, along with everyone else in the Discord, just kind of living pandemic life with each other in the Discord. So there's a lot of, you know, if you really want to know how we're doing, you can join the Discord and scroll up. Anyway, it's hard and we're ready for it to be done too, I promise.
00:58:00
Speaker
Danny asks, is there any- And Jess is not interested in how I'm doing. What? You didn't, you didn't, you didn't. See, that's the thing, I know how you're doing, as far as I know, you answered already, because we talk about it, because we're friends, please, I apologize. No, you're good. You're right, I'm not interested, but the people might be. On the other hand, Eric does have a vlog, so you can almost in real time find out how Eric and Mike are doing. Yes.
00:58:25
Speaker
Yes, you can watch my life. The vlog started near the beginning of the pandemic, so you can see my slow descent. No, I... That's the video of Eric shaving his head. Yep. Staring disturbed in the middle distance. Oh, that was back in March when I thought it would be a silly goof that my hair would be short once I started hanging out with people again. So I've kind of had...
00:58:52
Speaker
to like my pandemic can be pretty neatly divided into two chapters of the first one taking it pretty seriously and only socializing with people that I trusted weren't exposing themselves and but still you know going over to people's places sitting outside on porches
00:59:16
Speaker
And then I went to go meet my newly born niece and found out a couple days after that that I was in a room for an entire afternoon with somebody who was positive. And that was kind of a wake up call for me. And I recently had a doctor's point where I found out that yes, my white blood cell count is abnormally low. So I am immunocompromised and need to not be around people. So I've been in full quarantine mode for a
00:59:43
Speaker
A handful of months now. My wife does all the shopping. I do not leave the house unless it's to go to the doctor.
00:59:53
Speaker
Um, but no, it's been, it's been okay. One, uh, good part, and this might be too heavy for some people, but I started therapy during the pandemic and that's been great. And I'm really happy that I made that decision. Um, so, so yeah, that's been really good. And yeah, I'm, I don't know, like I'm fine. Like I'm not going stir crazy. I think I'm slowly turning into an introvert because I'm just due to lack of exposure to people. I mean, like, um,
01:00:22
Speaker
Yeah. So I'm doing fine. I'm staying entertained as best I can without leaving my home ever. So yeah, that's what I got going on.
01:00:31
Speaker
You know, I think that will be one thing that'll be interesting to see, because I was, I don't want to say it's already over. I consider myself an extrovert, always have. I was joking with people. The last time I went to New York City, I met up with some friends while I was up there and we had to go through Times Square and they were like, oh Times Square. And I was like, yes, feed me. Let's do this. Surrounded by people in full range of emotion.
01:00:56
Speaker
Uh, the other day I, you know, I was on Twitter and everybody talking about, man, I cannot wait to go to a concert. I cannot wait for the first party when this is over. I cannot wait. And I'm like, I absolutely can wait. That doesn't appeal to me now. And that scares me that I'm no longer that person. But I guess we'll see when it rolls around. Um, okay. Has everybody said their piece now, Eric?
01:01:20
Speaker
Danny asks, is there any path to legally practicing for Eris? So is there any path by which Eris can become a legal, uh, artificer? So you can become a licensed mage, right? Presumably through house Kenneth and the same way that, um, often is now being strong armed by house Galanda. Uh, I.
01:01:49
Speaker
think that's the only way that she could become a successful, legitimate businessman. She could try to run without the license. I think she could try to be an artifice. I made right without the license, but I wouldn't like be arrested or fined, but eventually it would be. She'd get the treatment from House Caneth that Ulfin is getting from Galanda. And Eris has lots of reasons to not draw attention to herself, so.
01:02:19
Speaker
Yes, there is. She does not currently, I think, have the funding for that as I assume a major rights license is expensive. Danny asked, which was the best cocktail that came alongside the flight in the downtime episode?
Character Development and New Campaign Promotion
01:02:36
Speaker
Hob doesn't drink, so. Or Hob rarely drinks, so we would have no. Yeah, and see, we need Trevor for this. Like, Trevor would be able to answer this so well. I think she's just looking for us to make up some cocktail names, which I'm looking for. I know, I know. Wouldn't it be wild if the one thing Hob actually enjoyed drinking was the white whale? We can't put that in because that's campaign one stuff, and we don't talk about campaign one. I mean, we could include the existence of the white whale. Surely, Ulfin serves a white whale. He has a pirate bar.
01:03:06
Speaker
Okay. Danny edited her question, but I'm going to try to read it as was originally written. This is great. Is the gang at all concerned about Reynard and his drinking, or is it just accepted as a personality flash pork? When Cath and E were cleaning up the streets from that recreational drug, what was it? Full soap?
01:03:34
Speaker
Was it ever in the back of Hobb's mind that one day alcohol might not be enough for Raynard?
01:03:40
Speaker
So the question was are we concerned about rain or just drinking or do we just pass it off as a personality trait slash cork not flashpork She was using voice to text and it's just funny. We've been considering what flashpork is and I think that's probably gonna be the saving grace of the thing that saves orphans is we're gonna is Harris is gonna make him a make him a device and we're gonna start serving flash pork and
01:04:06
Speaker
Um, and it's going to be a flash port and the cold, flash port and the coldest beer you've in Sharon. And that's going to be the, um, the thing that saves orphans. And that'll be the end of the campaign because that's what this campaign is now about. It's about saving our rundown pirate restaurant. It's a comedy now.
01:04:24
Speaker
it's gonna end up with a dance. Fortunately there's a talent show in the exact amount that you need. I can speak for Hob. Hob is concerned about Raynard's drinking when it affects the job. Hob is not concerned that Raynard might be or is potential. I can't make that call.
01:04:49
Speaker
might be an alcoholic, have a genuine drinking problem. He is also not concerned for if that drinking problem goes further and alcohol is no longer enough for H.O.B. because, or enough for Reynard because that is the point where H.O.B. will quit associating with Reynard if he has to. And that is because H.O.B. does not have the relationship with Reynard that he has with Milo and with Eris and Trevor and I have kind of chosen to play it that way.
01:05:18
Speaker
So, so that's that for Hobb. It's like, I mean, yeah, he drinks too much. As long as it doesn't affect the job, I'm going to put up with it as soon as it does. I'll say something or do something. And if it continues to be a problem, I can no longer work with Reinhardt. He assumes he can figure out a find a way. I think Milo's probably a little concerned. I mean, it seems like Milo is typically the one that will
01:05:49
Speaker
After Raynard says something, Milo will try to say something to smooth it over. Seems like that's happened a couple times, but he likes Raynard. I mean, Milo pretty much likes everybody and wants to get along with everybody. So I think if it got to be where Milo really, really got concerned with it, he would probably at least try to talk to Raynard for all the good that that would probably do.
01:06:19
Speaker
I don't know that Eris... I don't know that Eris puts all that much thought into her companion's personal habits. Eris has a concern for her companions as a whole, but I don't think Eris is someone who is
01:06:46
Speaker
I don't think Eris is someone who's emotionally equipped to have that conversation, even if it began to severely concern her. I don't think Eris is the person you would want to try to have that conversation with someone. Kevin asks, Philip, once Eris got angry at Vigo, it seemed to break the ice on her sort of murderous side, suggesting killing people as a solution where she hadn't in the past.
01:07:12
Speaker
In fact, had explicitly stated to be against the idea. That's me editorializing. Was that always lurking beneath the surface, or was it a character change that felt appropriate, giving the circumstance, the threats, and or her, for lack of a better term, he uses PTSD, which I think is certainly fair. She has had trauma. That's fair for Aris, yeah.
01:07:35
Speaker
There's a sort of answer of just blanket yes in that sense. It is a combination of things. I will point out it does actually begin before Vigo. It has perhaps become more frequent since Vigo, although
01:07:56
Speaker
I would argue its frequency is largely in the number of ways in which I think she has suggested killing Viggo in quite a few different ways, or at least considered it most horribly in the downtime. But the first occasion of it is actually the downtime where Sigil's place gets attacked by the mob.
01:08:25
Speaker
um and then uh yeah several in several occasions with Vigo and then uh with Sifist I think those are the only people Eris has suggested murdering recently um out loud anyway out loud yeah there's a lot more in her head um yeah it is somewhat all of those things um I was
01:08:50
Speaker
I was joking to Eric at the beginning that our listeners always ask the questions that I would really like a character in the game to ask. And so I don't want to go too deep into what's going on behind that because I think it's more interesting to let it resolve itself or proceed. But it is a little bit of all of those things. There is definitely a callousness in Eris.
01:09:21
Speaker
that comes from her background and an emotional distance compared or a lack of empathy, I guess, with people in general, which I think is should is probably apparent to everyone that Eris is not the most empathetic person. But additionally, I did
01:09:43
Speaker
perceive it as a deliberate choice just due to the situation that we've been in and somewhat connecting to her past trauma. But again, a lot of that deals with stuff that we haven't honestly just haven't had occasion to get into about Eris on the show. And so I wouldn't want to go too far into that because I think it'll just be more fun to do in character than here.
01:10:13
Speaker
Okay, that's the last of our questions. We want to thank everybody for listening and thank all of our Discord members and our patrons for their questions. We'd love to see all of you in the Discord interacting with us.
01:10:25
Speaker
Most of us are really active in the Discord, so it's a lot of fun. You can join it very easily. The two easiest ways are to go to thegeekpantheon.com and click on the link, and it'll drop you right in. Or go to patreon.com slash thegeekpantheon and join as a patron. And if you have your Discord connected to your Patreon account, it'll drop you right in there.
01:10:52
Speaker
We have tiers starting as low as one dollar, and then different rewards as tiers go up from there. We also have a YouTube channel that Eric does a lot of DMing advice on, but in addition to that, we are now three episodes in. As of this recording, yeah.
01:11:14
Speaker
Yeah, as of this recording, three episodes into the Kyber Shards campaign, a campaign run by Diem Philip and featuring Eric as a player. For those of you who have gotten little snippets of Eric as a player and enjoyed it, buckle up. Also, and I... I don't know. I've made it clear, I don't watch it.
01:11:42
Speaker
Uh, but no, uh, the other players, Phillip, if you want to talk just a little bit about, uh, about Kyber shards, I think that'd be great. Uh, Kyber shards is a camp. And we have, we have just started, um, where working through, uh, the, I guess the, the end of the prologue is what will work. What will, uh, drop the Monday after this drops. Um,
01:12:04
Speaker
It's me as the DM. Eric is a player. The other three players are friends of mine who I have played D&D with before, a streamer friend of me and Eric's, Colin, as well as a couple of players from my home game, KC and RA.
01:12:22
Speaker
It's a really cool group of players. I'm really excited to play with them. The campaign is heavily influenced by X-Men with the players all having aberrant marks and us treating aberrant marks like mutant powers. So yeah, it's fun. I'm hoping it will be kind of fast and action-oriented and very player-driven as much as I can make it. Great.
01:12:51
Speaker
I want to be clear, I'm not actually a jerk, I have to watch the whole first episode and most of the call in when I intend to watch it all. I never watches YouTube, that's okay. I'm not offended. That's true, I did listen to it while I did other things.
01:13:06
Speaker
And then lastly, Eric, would you like to plug your Twitch streaming channel? I believe it is twitch.tv slash The Geek Pantheon. Yep. Just like all of the other platforms, just The Geek Pantheon. Yeah, I stream every Sunday and Tuesday at 8pm Central and on Saturdays at 7am Central.
01:13:26
Speaker
And I do a variety of games, but mostly we're just there to hang out. We talk about this show. We talk about Kyber Shards. We talk about D&D and tabletop role-playing games in general. And then sometimes Jeff drops in and ruins the whole thing with sound effects. And frequently on Sundays, I drop in and heckle Eric while he plays.
01:13:47
Speaker
Yes, that is also true. So yeah, if you wanna come hang out and watch me play games and talk to me, and then occasionally talk to some of the other hosts in chat, then that's a thing that you can do, Sundays and Tuesdays, and then Saturday mornings.
01:14:03
Speaker
And your Saturday morning one is, is, is a deliberately like chill vibe kind of thing. Right now I'm playing Stardew Valley on Saturday mornings. So it's nice chill music, just tending a farm, getting to know people in a small town kind of thing. Tuesday nights is walking dead if you're wanting something more intense. So yeah, I watched the end of that. I'm not, yeah, I'm not coming back on Tuesday. Yeah, I rolled in. That was too much for me.
01:14:29
Speaker
I rolled in for a couple of minutes, and I saw some dark things, and then I made a big dumb joke, and then I ruined everything that I left. I'm never coming back. It's a really well done game. I'm not trashing it, but man, it was more than I can do. Yeah. And Eric is a very interactive streamer. If you like watching streams where the chat matters more than
01:14:55
Speaker
just thanking people for subs and gifts. Eric is the one to watch. He's very, very interactive, has that chat screen up and interacting a whole time, so. Thank you. Oh, man, whatever. Just a nice thing that broke in. To say something nice about Eric on the podcast and not just off the air. Yeah.
01:15:16
Speaker
It doesn't hurt. I just don't like it. It hurts. It feels gross. It's his brand. Yeah. It feels gross, I think, is the... Like you need to shower. Yeah, it's like hanging out with Eric. It feels the same. Okay, I get that. Having lived with Eric, I get that. Yeah. It's time for me to put this in. Anyway, I'm Jeff. I'm Philip. I'm Randy. And I'm Eric.
01:15:44
Speaker
And this has been Ever Up Deed!