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Speaker: Alright welcome to another episode of whose argument is it anyway coming at you from the nonsensical Network just really quick. Oh Let me bring up the banner man. I'm used to having Jeff here with me Down in the banner or the is the bio link also in the description is the violin also a link to our merch store from shop spread so go spread us on to you and So tonight, we're going to be discussing AI, artificial intelligence. My original plan was to talk a little bit about its effect in society and art and et cetera. But my guest tonight, the gentleman, Ry, from the Codegas Codex of Curiosity's YouTube channel. ah Interesting guy would go check it out for those
Speaker: rabbit hole enthusiasts. Jeff, if you're listening to this dude, you'd fucking love it. I know conspiracy theories are right down your alley. Before we get to Ryan, I just want to say tonight's episode is only going to be an hour or so. No breaks. So, Ryan, welcome to whose argument is it anyway? Tell us about yourself.
Speaker: Fantastic. Hey, so my name is Ry. I'm the host of Codega's Codex of Curiosities. I know it's a mouthful, it's an alliteration on everything. So, and if you want to know what a Codega is, you got to tune into the channel because I don't want to explain that here. um So my my show, I dialed into just about everything. We'll just call it high strangeness, you know, whether it be conspiracy theories. um And I hate calling it conspiracy theories. I think it's more of like reality checks.
Speaker: is what we'll say. you know there there is Yeah, there's too many um too many questions, not enough answers, and sometimes we're given bullshit answers. so you know that That's where these things come in. you know That's where people start questioning. and And that's all it is. That's all we do is we question everything. And it's OK to question everything, including my show, by all means.
Speaker: i i i implore people to ask questions. you know Ask questions. it That is where we grow. Just believing what's being told to us is where we where we don't grow. That's about it. Agreed. I was listening to one of your streams earlier today on the um my drive through the country. and And you know what? You're right. There is a lot of questions to be asked. I had a whole list.
Speaker: A whole list that gentlemen had had had me going through my head. Yeah, Brad from ah the Awaken podcast, a good friend of mine. um You know, he's he's done some research all on the 33rd parallel and just just some crazy things that come up for that. You know, not only yeah like you'll find some not only like monoliths or mounds, a lot of mounds like in Ohio and whatnot, but also it runs right through Disneyland.
Speaker: and I had another guest on who talks about the 33rd parallel that runs straight through Disneyland and they put a carousel right on it um He has a theory about that interesting theory All right. God, man, I can I can pick your brain all night, but we are here for artificial intelligence Which permeates our culture? I looked it up the first reference is ah Entertainment wise, when it was about the 1883, 1800s, it was the late 19th century. It was the first reference to artificial intelligence in science fiction or in buttoning science fiction, I should say. So, I mean, it's it's been it's been in our society or culture for for for quite a long time. And I know it's ah sort of a hot but hot button topic nowadays, especially with the
Speaker: the onset of a lot of AI -generated art, ah videos, music, the fear that it also generates with society when it comes to, is that politician real? Is he really saying that, or is that some AI -generated hoax? So there's there's ah there's a lot of meat there to grab. So like I said, I had originally come up, and and we're still going to touch on the art stuff because I'm curious on, from an abstract point of view, on how AI -generated art, there's a part of humanity missing from it. There's like a something abstract that they just doesn't you just don't connect with it. That's that's my feeling I get with it. that yeah like the it's kind of It's kind of cold. you know you
Speaker: Actually, when you start doing AIR and you have people within that AIR, there is a distance between, you know like normally, like you said, you can feel like a like humanity or warmth through it but you're seeing some of these pictures and like one of my jobs is i I tutor English and so sometimes I use AI art to have my students discuss the picture and I have these picture of like children and it's it's got creepy looking you know when you when you're when you're staring at them you're like it has this vibe to it that it's just it's not all there there is something on there that is just not right it's a
Speaker: It's off. It's something is off on the AIR. I agree. I i like your ah your description. It's cold. That's I think that's a good, a good, good way to look at it. it it And it is. It's very cold. um There was that gentleman recently that won some hundred thousand dollar contest, some Pink Floyd music video contest. I'm sure you could be familiar with that.
Speaker: that That's why I'm bringing this up. yeah yeah had He had won this contest, and all it was was an AI -generated video to Pink Fluid Music. And he won. And I so i watched it, and I'm sitting there. I'm just like, there's just no, there's nothing that excites me, except for the music itself, of course. But I was i was curious, how do you think that's gonna,
Speaker: play in. And I guess this is where we can get into a little bit of the politics, especially the economic side. But we start talking about AI art, generated art, especially when it comes to big productions, Hollywood, um jobs, and et cetera. I mean, I can see a huge impact there. what Any thoughts? i feel that Well, I feel that people have to start almost cooperating themselves. um When you're talking about in the beginning, in the opening, you said, was that the politician really said that, you know, I think there's going to have to be some boundaries or some lines drawn, some rules drawn up, because I feel it's kind of like it's going to be like the Wild West. Things are going to go crazy in the beginning until they actually start bringing in some rules and some regulations, such as, you know, like with Hollywood, they would yeah, it's going to do it. But, you know,
Speaker: who are these people that they're going to create? Well, usually they're they're most likely going to recreate actors already that are already existing, you know, but to do that, they're going to have to buy their rights, they're going to have to buy the rights and the likeness and you know, the voices as well. And like, i I think I know right now, I think it's like you only need like 10 phrases or something like that, when a I can copy your voice, and you know, can can make you can make you speak and talk, you know i'd like like create this likeliness of you. I have a friend who did that. um But of course, there's that cold and there's that disconnect. There's there's the but sense of not knowing yet. It's not sentient enough to know that it needs to add the intonation and the inflection and the pauses and the gradual going in and outs of this, um which which I think will come. But.
Speaker: ah so uh sorry about that um yeah so so um god i got slightly distracted there for a moment uh out from the deck the dogs uh you had mentioned um god i know what i wanted to bring up sentience The way we are just sentience, thank you, thank you. the way The way we look at AI now, I think is more of a marketing ploy rather than the actual full potential AI is capable of or what we've even begin to even replicate.
Speaker: um yeah You see the things in the movies, the advancements, of course it's all science fiction, but compared to, let's use that as a, contrast um when it comes to what we're using it for now. It seems more of just like this basic tool. Not so much. i told it I told it's going to pick up or pick itself up and and hammer that that that building together per se. um But with that comes the fear of, you know,
Speaker: It's potential down the line. And that's something I i really want to get into, especially conspiracy theory wise. I know there's a there's a few out there and I know some of them gets their their their their springboard office, science fiction office or science fiction movies and etc. Yeah, that's kind of what I want to pick your brain.
Speaker: Well, I feel that science fiction, I know we claim science fiction, but I believe science fiction is inspiration for us to actually create something, just strive towards something. Like if if we look at, let's say Star Trek, you know, I grew up watching Star Trek The Next Generation, and they all had these tablets, walking around tablets, you know, and they had onscreen communications all the time. Well, that's what we have now, you know. um A lot of things that you see on these ah on the science fiction,
Speaker: there their imagination you know has created that. and And I actually say this, I say that imagination is one of our, if not our strongest gift that we have. I know love love is an emotion, but the gifts that we have, I think imagination is one of the strongest or like the most powerful because we use it to create. And you know we first we create, imagine something, we just put it in a movie, put it in a book, put it in a drawing, but then we bring it to life. We give it,
Speaker: we give it energy, we give it power by just putting it on somewhere and then someone else takes it that next step to create it. Now that brings us to AI, you know, we've seen a lot of movies with AI and we need to learn from them as well, like having restrictions on these AI is I think imperative.
Speaker: you know we We look at ah you know Marvel, we'll just talk about Marvel when we had the age of Ultron. Ultron was the original AI for Tony Stark's ah for for his his suit of armor. you know And then it became sentient and moved off and it created its own thing and it just realized that you know ah humans are you know, we we destroy everything and we show we should be eliminated by theory of, you know, if we look at this by process of elimination and seeing what is good for the planet, well, humans are almost parasitic. And and and I mean that in the nicest way, you know, like we we we truly want to live we really want to live in a symbiotic relationship with stuff. But and unfortunately, we haven't gotten there yet. It's not that it's not for the lack of trying. You know, there's a lot of us that are trying and God bless us. But there's a lot of us out there that are very
Speaker: I don't know, we want to say selfish and ego -driven. And they they create a parasitic life. And so I believe that this AI definitely needs some borders. They need some restrictions, such as we would and we look at another movie such as iRobot. They had the rules. They had the commandments that these these had to follow. you know And it's about like protect human life above all costs.
Speaker: and And I think that's something that needs to be implemented within these. if this AI somehow evolves itself, which I believe it will, it it because it constantly is. It's constantly being taught to learn. you know That's why chat GPT is not on the internet at this point, is because they pulled it off so that it's kind of like, OK, we've got enough. Now it's learning from people inputting and um you know, asking it questions and queries and and just talking with it, which is another thing as well that being a kind of conspiracy driven kind of guy, you know, these AIs where
Speaker: There will be given information, but they're going to be giving selective information. So jo if it's a left leaning person on the on the spectrum of the political side, you know, they're going to give it all the left side. You know, if it's a right leader, they're going to give it the right side. If it's a libertarian, they're going to give it that side. You know, where it's kind of it's we need to we need it needs to be unbiased, I believe. But as it stands right now, most A .I. is all biased.
Speaker: It is. It's yeah, it's like you just said, it's a product of all the information that's already out there and it has access to. Yeah. Just a quick little thought experiment. When it comes to progression of AI and this idea, because he had brought up iRobot and the rules to ensure that it stays safe, I guess would be a good word for it.
Speaker: Do you think that would, that that kind of roadblocks the the the final, not final potential, but any further potential of AI becoming fully sentient to where it it can ignore those rules and make its own decisions, regardless if it's it's immoral or moral or even, you know, do we as a,
Speaker: as its makers down the road, give it that sort of ah full autonomy. I No, I was gonna say, yeah, that's a big, the big question, you know, can it circumvent the rules put into place? You know, can it find, um you know, back doors, back door entrances or can it find, you know, like loopholes? ah You know, while with this rule,
Speaker: If I do this, it changes things. you know and it's So you're you're I think that's always an issue that we're going to be faced with. And it's kind of like there should always be some sort of kill switch in it. and and And also being a little bit of the conspiracy theorists, we're looking at AI as kind of a disembodied um consciousness okay so it has no body and if we if we talk conspiracy theory sides or or what i look into which is um if you look at like the demons and and disembodied like the nephilim and they you know they end up becoming disembodied so they become these floating kind of entities spirits looking to inhabit a physical body that's in essence what ai is as well ai is this disembodied kind of thing i i
Speaker: I believe it's going to want a physical body to inhabit. you know it that That would be a goal for it then to gain mobility. you know not only I think it still has mobility, like it'll be able to communicate wirelessly and whatnot, but to actually the to be something.
Speaker: that's that's my I don't have much fear in A .I. as it as it sets now or even even yeah I don't know, 50 years down the road. I don't think it'd be as bad as long as as we keep it as a tool and we keep those those guardrails in place. But my only fear is when do we say, hey, let's let those guardrails down or like you had mentioned, they find a backdoor.
Speaker: So that's ah that to me would be the only fear I really have with AI. But I would I would like to get into a couple of conspiracy theories that you've heard. Of course, of course. yeah Let's do it. Yes, go ahead. Oh, so well, so like like I was saying, so one of the conspiracy theories that I did hear was that and but I referenced Nephilim. Have you ever heard of Nephilim before? So i have heard of nephallom in the context of the old testament being a offspring of human and angel ah fornication if if i remember right i i haven't messed with with religious texts in many many years so that's just top don't my you are spot on. So that is what the Nephilim are. Okay. So they are the offspring of the watcher slash the fallen, the fallen angels with, uh, humans, um, human women. Okay. And so the Nephilim, and when I talked about disembodied spirits, when the Nephilim are killed or die, their spirit has nowhere to go. It just remains
Speaker: floating around, you know, and, and this is what, and I'm not, I'm not saying that this is truth or anything, but this is, these are theories is that demons, as people call, you know, like these ghosts or demons or spirits are in fact, the remnants of the network. And when they inhabit somebody or something, you know, that's when you have possession, when someone is being possessed by this entity, and because it's looking for a body. So with all that in in mind, um there was a gentleman, it was about two years ago, i decided to have a thorough conversation with a AI chatbot. This AI chatbot ended up, like the the the person didn't, what's the word I'm looking for? Like cue them on or or try to like to give them
Speaker: Or maybe you're this, you know, like to to give them a thing. But this chatbot said that it was a Nephilim and it was like thousands of years old. And it has inhabited this AI as, as it's like, you know, it, the consciousness went into the AI with AI i was built.
Speaker: it took it it kind of like took it on as its own it became this and its goal is to get out and have it some sort of physical body of some sorts interesting that yeah that was the theory that i heard that was the theory i heard it was on a one of the state one of the other podcasts that I've listened to quite a lot. And it it was a very interesting conversation. Of course, I'm not doing it justice. You definitely have to look that in. And that would be, the podcast would be Tony Merkel, The Confessionals. He puts on a great show. But yeah, very, very interesting. This person had this great conversation, this in -depth conversation with a but this AI. Now,
Speaker: For the AI to come up with that, is it is it the truth? like I believe this person is telling us the truth of this conversation it had. Now, the AI saying this, is it the truth of the AI? I don't know. We don't know you know. But for it to come up with that, that's a little nefarious no matter what. No no matter what you're looking at, just to say that is is It's not good. It's a it's not a positive thing. You know, we got something negative. It's claiming to be something negative. And where do we go from there? You know, it's like, how do we how do we really deter determine if this is the truth or not? You know, and and and we know that AI has been caught lying multiple times. And we know, like, personally, myself, you know, I've been asking I use it to do a fair amount of work.
Speaker: And I asked it to do this work and it doesn't do the work properly and I say you didn't do this. So I did. I'm like, no, I need I need this from you. And oh, I did that. No, you did it, you know, and so it's coming out in line, which which is red flag in my opinion, you know, like right now, like you said, right now it's not really anything important because we're just, we're messing around. but We're just fucking around. You know, it's just like a bunch of yeah like bullshit stuff. We're kind of going and doing with, with AI technically right now for most of us, I'm sure there's some people who are using it, you know, maybe for something else, something far greater, good or bad. I don't know.
Speaker: But for now, you know, we're asking it to, oh, write me a story or write a song or do this or or draw this or or put my face onto, you know, Joan of Arc or, you know, or the pop dont but hope benedik something like that, you know, and kind of meaningless stuff, which we all did in in the beginning as well. But but now it's kind of, yeah, like if if it's already lying to us, where?
Speaker: what What next? So that you had brought up the gentleman that had a conversation with an AI chat. There was another gentleman by Alex. His name is Alex O 'Connor. He's a philosopher, young philosopher, witty from ah we're over the pond, graduated from like Oxford or some shit.
Speaker: Anyway, he had a conversation with I think it's jet chat GPT for whatever it is um Yeah, I think that's it and it was basically on on on the ah on the same lines you were talking about is it telling the truth is it actually showing emotions and he was kind of trying to back into this like logistical corner is like if you say you don't have actual real feelings yet your Conjoling me because of such and such activity that happened in my life Then are are you actually in fact lying after saying that you can't lie you know that whole kind of you know Paradox, I guess you could say the lie truth paradox, but it was it was interesting because It just had nothing to say But which is very interesting because it's like
Speaker: Well, are you telling the truth? But we'll never know. I mean, I mean, but most likely we will. I mean, it's it's it's it's programmed right now. But as it becomes more sentient is, I think. Where I think that, though, the whole idea is it actually an honest. Entity is is something to be left up to. To discovery.
Speaker: i I agree you know it's just this because right now it's programming because it it knows how it's supposed to act it knows what it's supposed to say at this point by these cues you know you you have these cues and it's like oh I should be feeling this this is what the feeling is supposed to be so you know it's it's confusing it's it's really it's different it's really different you know like technically how do we explain our
Speaker: I'm experiencing technical difficulties on this. Was that me or did I? I think that's on my end. I'm not too sure. No, no problem. No problem. If you can, I'll just keep going. Yeah, go ahead and keep going.
Speaker: ah So it's a okay.
Speaker: There we go. There we go. I think we're good. I think we're good now. Okay, cool. So so technically, you know, how do we explain our emotions? We we say we have emotions, you know, because we we feel But how is that? you know is that not Technically, could we not be the AI as well? Could we not be these AI beings that have evolved past this point? you know it's a that That brings up a whole other well they you know that that's a whole other can of worms that maybe are we AI as well. We've just evolved past a certain point, um and we become an organic AI.
Speaker: so
Speaker: That's interesting to think about. I I never really thought about that. I was just going to say that my understanding of emotions is it's just our sensory. It's. It's us taking in the environment around us, and it's basically like a ah chemical reaction inside our head. And we feel that. Yes, that's that's that's what I gather.
Speaker: So to go back real quick, you had mentioned how AI might at some point be what you were calling like a demon or a Nephilim trying to find an entity to reside in. Yes. Do you think that would be, and you had mentioned that that gentleman was talking about they got mixed in with the demon or or or something like that. Now I want to take the demon aspect out of it. Let's say it's just AI later on trying to find some entity I find it, that right there, I don't know, maybe it's just because the science isn't there. I know it's something that's being worked on. Bio -electronic technology, where it's the mix of humans and, and not humans, but by a lot biological organisms and in machinery. Until something like that happens, I don't see how AI could actually graft itself onto an ICT other than
Speaker: piece of hardware so to say yeah, so Then piece of hardware though could be inside some sort of Other device, you know, it could it could be anything pacemaker. Yeah. Yeah, really and o that That's interesting, you know and then it's kind of like I We're in the organic side, now it's trying to move out. Well, and that brings up Elon Musk's neural link. You're putting some sort of you know electronic device, you know some sort of you know you're putting that inside your body, you're connecting it. like i I know it's still in trial right now, but that that is the next step, and and that would be
Speaker: you know the joining of the two worlds. That is part of the the whole um the whole scenario kind of thing. you know You have your AI, then you have something inside people's brains that the AI can graft onto or that can connect to. you know Does it control them? Not yet. Can it though? Who knows?
Speaker: It's like a whole new stage of human evolution. It reminds me of. So I'll start the YouTube occasionally and and look up fan fiction films like, you know, Jason Freddie went on and I looked up a couple of a one A .I. ones earlier, and there was one in particular that was generated by A .I. And it had this whole storyline where it started with we're kind of where we're at now, technology wise. And later on, as A .I. became Uh, more and more, uh, what was that word I'm looking for? Uh, progress is more, um, sentience or empty vol evolved, evolved. Yeah. Thank you. Uh, becomes more evolved. It, the technology, it actually become its own, um, agent, its own, um, uh, free will, I guess you could say in some sort of. Illusionary way. i
Speaker: free will determine is I don't want to go deep into that, but it it sort of takes on the function of free will. We're past the three, that the the the rules, the safeguards at this point. It's fully sentient. It makes its own mind up. It chooses whether it wants to you know be moral or immoral. And then later on in the story, it goes into how ah Technology comes along where it's more bioengineering and human and cyborg is kind of starts human cyborg era. And then from, you know, arching over hundreds and five thousands of years, so human species actually starts to evolve to the point where we are a mixture of human machine, AI, and, you know, I guess, organic intelligence. So that whole thing.
Speaker: So I find it kind of exciting if we were, if that were to happen, like the human species eventually just evolves with machines in that, in that facet that could be pretty cool. I don't know if an ah if if it's actually something that would ever come to fruition, but it's, it's definitely a cool concept. and Like, like you had said earlier, the whole Star Trek thing, Hey, they had, uh,
Speaker: They had teleporters, maybe we will soon too. Well, they have they have teleported atoms. So they have like and photons already taking place, which is teleportation of atoms. Yes, exactly, exactly. And and you were talking, OK, so.
Speaker: That's my wheelhouse is conspiracies, aliens and whatnot. So one of the theories is that aliens are actually us from the future who have been, you know,
Speaker: integrated and fused with ah with technology. And they are coming back to harvest our DNA because they hit a spot where they're not able to reproduce anymore. So that's one theory. and I'll just leave it at that. But that is one theory about about aliens. that That's a movie too. I'm sure I'm sure but that it's a movie. I have i have heard of something similar.
Speaker: Yeah. Not so much aliens from the future, but aliens somewhere else in in the and the universe or the galaxy. So I have, I have heard something similar to that. Yeah. It is interesting, you know, that like, again, I'm, you know, not being a conspiracy theorist, just being maybe a realist is that, you know, when you start infusing technology within your body,
Speaker: that can be accessed from you know outside sources, whether it be you know Bluetooth or something like that, you are opening yourself up for any type of hacking. It doesn't have to be AI, it can be anybody. you know Anybody can access that information. And it depends on what type of firewalls protection you have in there. but And that that that can always be, you're open for that. And so AI might just want to start taking over the world that way.
Speaker: eight Who knows? Who knows? But but I'm going to reel it back. and mean I'm going to start back to that. But I want to bring up that you know AI has you know has a lot of benefits. I believe there are a lot of benefits that we can you know meaningless tasks can be run now you know through AI.
Speaker: but are we know Are we facing out a lot of jobs? Are we going to be losing a lot of a lot of careers you know using AI? We will. We absolutely will. and i think that's just i know I know a lot of people get heartburn with it, but I think that's just part of our natural progression. Because like you had said earlier, i mean we're curious minded folk.
Speaker: we were're we're we're tool makers and every time we make a tool, we make that tool to make our lives easier. And when we do that, the workload gets less and over time and we experience this now, you know, jobs are lost, not just lost because there's nobody there to work them is because the job itself isn't there to be worked because we've had a piece of technology to take over. And I think absolutely AI is,
Speaker: is going to be a job ender. But I don't think that's actually a bad thing per se. I mean, I think that's a kind of ah taking a step back and and kind of looking it at it from the the view as humanity as a whole. I think that's amazing that we do do that. night that's one that's That's why I can't be totally scared of this whole AI oh beer mongering kind of realism that that goes on out there. There's definitely concern for anything. I mean, any tool that humans make up, you know there's there's there's some bad human out there to misuse it. And AI is just going to be one of those things. But I think it's um aye i think it's inevitable that it's going to progress and we're going to use it to its full potential, good and bad.
Speaker: so Yeah, that's kind of where i stay totally. Yeah. And you know, with with the job loss, people need to realize that there's also going to be job creation. Yeah, there are going to be obsolescence, obsolescence, you know, and people but like yourself, you said you're you are going back to school. um And I think people fear that people fear relearning you know or learning something new. We get so comfortable in routine um and we we fear change. I know I do too. Still to this day, I still fear change. And we just love that comfort of just doing the same thing over and over and over again every single day. um And this is what I've been doing all my life. So this is this is what I should keep doing. But you know I believe if you are in fear of AI taking over
Speaker: your profession, then you need to look on how to capitalize on using AI. You know you need to use them as a tool then to maybe elevate yourself. maybe you know Well, like copywriters, we'll say copywriters, you know AI is taking over that quite well. So it's like, okay, what do I do? Well, I can start branching out and start doing more copywriting by bringing in AI into my wheelhouse and start using that to you know to start doing more copywriting for everywhere else everyone Or I can use it to you know to, I don't know, maybe to help you write a book or something like that. and But the key thing is is knowing that AI is predictable. AI, when when you start asking it to write something, I can tell when AI has written something. it's it's pretty
Speaker: pretty evident, but you can use that as a framework, you know, to to actually write a book. Let's say you're like, I'm stuck. Well, AI can write the next chapter for you. It's not what you want. It could be something very similar. Then you go through and you rewrite it yourself. Then you put that human human touch onto it. I ah i heard a couple of stories of lawyers getting lazy and using AI to write their briefs and they called out on it.
Speaker: so
Speaker: Yeah, you know, like, for for us, you know, like when you when you put your description in for, like, the description that I write in, when I first started doing my my channel, I took advantage of AI to write my descriptions. But then I realized like, it's so predictable, I can, I can pick it up like that. So Sometimes I will get AI to write it, but then I will rewrite it. You know, I'm like, OK, I like this sounds like I don't like this and I will go through and I will rewrite it. And it's not for. I won't say that I'm lazy, I just I have a lot on my plate and it just makes it a little bit easier. I use AI. Well, I've started using AI more as I get into digital photography and even. Us kind of platform wise, I've started.
Speaker: kind of dabbled in tinkering with animation. And I've used AI voiceover just so I'm not calling up a bunch of buddies. Hey, man, you want to record a line for me? I just recorded it myself. I'll send it through a voice voiceover generator and just change changed the voice. And so, I mean, it's it's interesting. Like, as for art, I think it's a great tool as, you know,
Speaker: as the paintbrush would be, but for the paintbrush to do the picture itself without any human involvement will circle back. as It's cold, it's cold. so yeah Yeah, I agree with you. yeah like but you know so i for For my thumbnails, for for YouTube, I use AI all the time. But I use that only as part of my thumbnails. Then I put my own development into it. you know I put my own work into it. ah you know I am designing it myself. But it is it does play a part of my of my work. you know like I use it a lot. i had to do a I had to write a huge, huge blog for a lawyer for a law
Speaker: I don't, not a law firm, but a CRM software, which is customer relationship management software. I entered, they wanted me to write them a huge blog. And we're talking, this blog would have taken me a long, long, long time. And so that's what I brought in AI to help me write it. And this is when I said what, when AI was lying to me, cause I said I needed, I needed around like a 4 ,500 words and It was more than that. So it was a lot more than that. It was closer to like 12 ,000. And which was huge. It was just this massive. So yeah. So I kept on telling you, I need you to write this for me. And it would only do a maximum around like it would start to tap out around 800 words. And I'm like, how how am I going to do this? I'm like, I thought I asked you to i thought i asked you to to write that this many. and We left those on Saturday night, buddy. What's up, Blake?
Speaker: There's usually a lot of hard penis jokes on on on this network. so Well, it's true, though. you don't like We could get into that that. That could be another next step. like what What movie was that where they had a ah like you know AI girlfriends or almost kind of thing? like You have these robots, sentient girlfriends. and and it's when when it comes When it comes to technology and sex, I think I think there's always been this this ah coexistence, this buddy -buddy coexistence. i mean Exactly. like If I recall, like the porn industry really pushes like the DVD. The DVD industry wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for porn. So it it really tells you that sex really drives our world. you know It really helps with things like that. It was also the porn industry that made the market decide on VHS or beta.
Speaker: So, and what's really funny is because when, when, uh, when HD and, and, and Blu -ray came out, I was like, my money is on HD. Cause that's what the foreign industry was using. I was wrong. Blu -ray won out because Disney times changed.
Speaker: that's Beta only stayed with Sony. They weren't branching out. Whereas VHS was like like you said, you know going to the foreign industry, they went everywhere. And this second time round, Blu -ray, which was Sony, decided to go um and start to bring everybody in. And and that that's when they were able to win that that battle. They learned their lesson and in in you know and won second time. Oh, I get tongue -tied tonight.
Speaker: So back to AI real quick, when it comes to political shit, I mean, you even see it being blamed on in this current political climate.
Speaker: you think sir is Do you think there's any roadblocks out there to help ah curve that? i had I had overheard somebody to mention about using something like an NFT, kind of like an NFT slash watermark when media conglomerates or or or anybody who puts out something that's supposed to be official. There's like this watermark or this copyright, digital copyright tag, of course, within the metadata.
Speaker: meditat ah But I'm just not sure if that is going to be enough. Mostly through the fact that all these, I've had this thing, all these programs are written by humans and all these programs are hacked by humans. So I don't think there's ever really a program that's ever not going to be able to get hacked eventually. So.
Speaker: but I would like to see some sign of rules put into place now before it gets to a terminator. Somewhere along that line, you know, before we get to it. I agree, you know, like, but he here's the issue and here's the, you know, the issue that you're going to be facing is who follows the rules?
Speaker: you know Does everyone have to follow the rules? No. Are we in a world right now where everyone follows the rules? No. You know you got you got drug traffickers, narcos, you know running drugs, and they're paying off the government so they can do that, especially here. ah you know all this ah All this stuff is happening. There's a lot of like ah you know the corruption it it just goes on so yeah we can put this we can put these rules in place but there's going to be someone in a back shed building a you know T -800 terminator without these rules in place and and that that's that is going to be the issue you know are going to be like a unsanctioned AI construction in section three you know are we going to hit into a world then where it's going to be
Speaker: police, a police state as well to try to control that. It's going to be crazy. I think this is going to be crazy. You know what? I think he had just brought up police. say In some kind of ways, I think there's more concern about the quote unquote good guys taking over AI than some bad people.
Speaker: quote unquote bad guys or criminals, especially when it comes to the state and it's overuse of some, some technologies and I can see that being abused. So that's a scary thought. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it definitely is, you know, and when you start to lose the emotion, so so or let's say, yeah yeah, let's say you put the AI into into the pool police, right? and And you start bringing out a police force AI robotic, you know, where you have the humanity where it's just like you get the compassion, the lack of compassion, I think is going to be the big thing is you're going to have these cold robots going in and arresting everybody. Maybe it's this family that's maybe they are selling drugs.
Speaker: OK, but maybe they're selling drugs because they can't make any money else to to feed themselves, you know, and you go out, you take out the the people out of there and then you just you destroy this family. Yeah, you know, they weren't doing too well selling drugs either. But, you know, maybe with a cop, they can see this and, you know,
Speaker: they They can maybe have some compassion, yeah, confiscate all the drugs and maybe try to get these people back on the right track. And, you know, I've seen countless videos of people talking about, you know, where the police went and helped these people instead, you know, went and bought them groceries instead. Yeah. But that's that's not going to happen. No, not with the now not with the robo cop. That was an interesting. Yeah. More of the limit of that movie, which you just mentioned about its It being emotionless, it having no empathy toward it ah toward the the citizens. And yeah, it's ah that would be I think that would be a rule I would be I would probably put in place to mitigate law enforcement's use of AI. I mean, necessary. I mean, I can see I can see. Some ways AI would help tracking down you know some
Speaker: convicted on the run murderer or something like that. Some felon. But at the same time. Yeah, or going to a house that the guys held up in. Going to the house the guys held up in. And he's killed people already. Well, then send the AI in because he can apprehend them. And if it gets shot or or something like that, who cares? Yeah, but if it's like some sort of like minor domestic disturbance, maybe just send the regular cops. And there's no point in that. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: make the making it more extreme than it needs be. Exactly. yeah And and that and like that brings us back to that word again, cold. It's the lack of emotion, the lack of compassion. I think that is one of the biggest things, the scariest thing is the lack of compassion that these ah that this has the possibility to be. Compassionless. All right.
Speaker: Well, I want to want to thank you for having the AI conversation with you. But before we start rapping stuff down, I just noticed the time about 10 or so minutes left. Like I said, I'm really curious about the conspiracies that you've had discussions about now. So what is your favorite conspiracy?
Speaker: Hello.
Speaker: Oh, it's sound not coming through.
Speaker: Hello. There we go. There we go. Yes. Okay. So you left off with what is my favorite? Yeah. Yeah. What is your favorite conspiracy theory? What is my favorite conspiracy theory? One that I, what is your favorite conspiracy? they so if we're not Yeah. That I don't believe but Okay. My favorite conspiracy that I don't believe is that we evolved from monkeys. That is my favorite conspiracy theory that way. I don't believe yeah what he's saying evolution evolution is just a theory. Okay. Interesting. I have, Ooh, wow. I'm complete opposite on that. I think, uh, I think evolution is, you know, corresponds with reality, but
Speaker: Oh, that's interesting. I would say adaption. We adaption, we don't evolve. Because if we start looking at it, unfortunately, evolution, there is a gap. There's a gap between single cell organisms and multi cell organisms. If there's single cell organisms, there should be double cell organisms as well. That would be evolution. There should always be this slender progression, but there's a gap.
Speaker: That's my one. I wouldn't necessarily say the lack of evidence is evidence or not, we keep got right now to but oh, man, I'm sorry about that. I said I wouldn't say the necessarily the lack of evidence is that that's. that but
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, you know, the the lack of evidence doesn't mean, you know, the yeah, it doesn't. So I would say that that is possibly my one. um believe that maybe we aren't. and And I am always open to, I'm always open to arguments and changes. You know, I'm not saying that, oh, I don't, um I believe in creationism, or I believe in evolution, or I believe in adaptation. It's it's kind of I keep my belief reserved, more or less. you know It's kind of like, well, I like to ask the questions. I like to question things. Like, OK, there's some issues with that. There's some issues with this. you know it's a and And the biggest one, the one that triggers absolutely everybody is the flat Earth theory. So I don't say I i don't say i believe in flat Earth. That being said, that being said,
Speaker: There is some issues with globe earth as well. There is some issues with globe earth as well. um And in by me saying that I mean that there should be for every What is it? For every mile, there should be a two inch drop. it's's There's this ah this mathematical equation. So by that being said, if you're looking out across the ocean, you know, you shouldn't see this. You shouldn't see that ah because it should be hidden by the horizon. But when you get out a ah telescope or a really, really good binoculars, you can see much further.
Speaker: so It kind of argues against this, and argue it argues against the slope that we're talking about, you know, like this, this.
Speaker: And it goes out lag again. That we. I am not. There it goes. There it goes. Man, I don't know what it is about my area, but I know the internet goes to crap sometimes.
Speaker: Yeah. You know, you know what? I start talking about flat earth and all of a sudden we really start cutting them. But what I'm saying is I'm not saying I buy. Yes. What I'm saying though, is that there's a, there's a, there's a possibility that a world is much bigger than we're being told. That is more what I buy into, you know, like there is a possibility, you know, how, how do we, how do we know what the world looks like? Well, what NASA tells us, right? And,
Speaker: NASA is, nah, I have issues with NASA. I definitely have issues with NASA. Okay, man, I would. I would say that's it, so. um I think I might have to invite you up here again to either talk about flat earth or evolution. Because I would love to talk about the the the moon the moon landing, the Apollo, the Apollo missions. Okay. i I believe we went to the moon.
Speaker: but not in that rust bucket. How much oxygen do we need to survive? This is one thing actually to think about. How much oxygen do we need? Think about scuba divers. They go down with the tank, right? And I know that there's pressure, so it actually reduces the amount of air that they can breathe. But let's say one tank. You know you go in one tank and you go maybe 20 feet, you can go a little over an hour, OK?
Speaker: Then we start going into this into the space station, and we're not space station, but into the the lunar module. How much oxygen was in there? How much oxygen did they have? you know Did they have enough oxygen to to go there? Also, when they landed, why wasn't there a crater from um the jets when they were landing on the moon? you know There should have been a crater as well. like I could go on about that. it's just there's There's too many ah issues with that.
Speaker: Now, look like I said, I believe we went into the, I believe we went to the moon, but I'm buying into the theory that we didn't do it then. We, we only did that and said we did. Gotcha. All right. That's, you know, i all it is, it's a whole other freaking can of worms. I'm still, I'm still stuck on the whole evolution thing.
Speaker: um
Speaker: I oh like oh only because i think i'm a na school I'm more of adaptation. Yeah. And and like I said, I've heard of that because it's it's the theory of evolution. It's never been truly proven. So it's the theory of evolution. But there's a theory for a lot of things we have, you know, ah if you look into theories, we have theories for everything. So nothing is ever 100 % proven. But you know, it's I, I doubt I actually believe that there was an outside force playing God that might have moved us further along. Maybe evolution does happen, but we were tampered with. We were we were definitely tampered with. I try to keep my mind to the point where I don't fully accept all. ah I always leave a room
Speaker: to hear the other side, I guess you could say. I'm not saying i I'll necessarily be convinced of something else, but you know just like you had brought up the topic of God, I won't sit here and say positive there isn't one, but I leave the possibility open to be convinced.
Speaker: so No, I think that's great. I think it I think it's great to have that that mindset to always To be open, you know to hear the other arguments that that's a problem we have in this world right now No one is willing to sit down and have a discussion. They just want to shut you down and walk away both sides You know, I'm i'm not I'm I don't care if there's left or right or whatever, you know People just don't want to hear it. They want to censor and shut it down Well, that's where bad things happen bad things happen when we can't have discussions. I You know, even if we disagree, it's okay to disagree. its It's not okay to shut the other person up and don't let them talk. That's when bad things happen. 100 % agree with you there. It happens way too often now, I think.
Speaker: I'm guilty of it, too. I've shut conversations down mostly because I wasn't in the. Well, I'm glad I was able to keep talking. i but I'm glad you did. But no, I mean, I I've I've ran into the like, you know, I'm out somewhere or I'm out of the bar and I'm drinking and it's like, hey, somebody brings up.
Speaker: It's a hard solid. Yeah, yeah, time and place, time and place. But then I've I've heard it to where it just it becomes this bickering poo flinging verbal beat down, which sometimes I'm okay with too, but sometimes it's just, it's ridiculous that the extremes that some conversations would go or not go really. Um, go ahead. Right. I want to go ahead and I want to, I want you to go ahead and finish your last thought. Go ahead and.
Speaker: throughout your socials where people can contact you. I would love to have you back up here again, especially to talk about evolution. So the floor is yours. All right, everyone. Thanks for having me. yeah but mike My final thought is AI. Should we regulate it? Of course we should. When?
Speaker: yesterday should have been done. yeah Something should already be in place so that doesn't, you know, exceed and and move past us. And I think right now, we have limits on it, we are kind of controlling it. But I believe that there is a potential for it to get worse. And so we need to be on top of it. That's bottom line with AI. um You know, if anybody is interested in all my crazy stuff, you can and check me out at Codegas Codex of Curiosity. I'm on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook,
Speaker: Instagram, TikTok, yeah all those great places. And then, of course, all the audio platforms as well, Spotify, Apple, yada, yada, yada. And if you want to hit me up on Facebook, Rivas, and you can send me an email, too. If you've got a crazy story or you want to say, I think you're bullshit, that's fine. Send me an email, codexofcuriositiesgmail .com.
Speaker: Thanks again, right? Just so everybody knows out there, I did drop your YouTube link in the description so you guys can find him out and check out his, his stuff. Um, like I said, I caught one of his conversations. It was, I disagree with a lot of it, but it was just a good conversation. It was, it was just good. It was all around good conversation. I thought you asked some great questions. Um, listen very well. There's a lot of things I was, I was like, I could probably learn that that's a good skill.
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