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Moon Knighting as a Toy Blogger - From the screen to the shelf with The Figure Report’s Michael Hernandez image

Moon Knighting as a Toy Blogger - From the screen to the shelf with The Figure Report’s Michael Hernandez

S1 E81 · Adventures in Collecting Toy Collecting Podcast
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This week Dave and Erik are joined by Moon Knight actor and the Figure Report's Michael Hernandez to discuss his role in the hit Disney+ show, his chance to get a first hands on with the new Moon Knight and Mr. Knight Marvel Legends figures, and more!

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Introduction to Adventures in Collecting

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Are you ready, kids? Get your parents' permission, check your mailbox, and grab your shopping cart. It's time for the Adventures in Collecting podcast.
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I'm Eric. And I'm Dave. Welcome to Adventures in Collecting, where we talk toy news, culture, and hauls. Along with our journeys as collectors. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Adventures in Collecting. Hi, I'm back. I took a week off. Yeah, it's been a weird couple of weeks for us at Adventures in Collecting.
00:01:44
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We had a vacation, so we had some episodes that were backfilled. And then we had our special chats with Marvel and with GI Joe. Our Instagram account got deleted. I was going to say we had an Instagram. Yeah, so if we're running into this problem, and before we get into today's, Dave, I am going to bury the lead for a moment, just because I feel like we need to very quickly address this.
00:02:14
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Just very, very quickly. So we do have a new Instagram handle. So it's at adventuresandcollecting. We're no longer at AIC underscore podcast. Unless you're on Twitter, then we are there. Yeah, I couldn't change it. At adventuresandcollecting is too long for Twitter. So I can't change it to that. So we're at AIC underscore podcast on Twitter. Everything's fine there. But we're at adventuresandcollecting on Instagram and TikTok.
00:02:43
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Um.

Instagram Account Controversy

00:02:45
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To be honest, what we think happened was there was some nefarious action going on with our Instagram account, either bots coming after us or some sort of reporting situation that was happening. Instagram meta cited us as being in violation of the community guidelines. They gave us no other information in terms of what we violated. They just linked us back to the community guidelines page.
00:03:15
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to which we read and reread and reread and reread and confined nothing on there that we actually violated. Um, but they did take down the account. Uh, there appears to be no recourse. Uh, we are, we are constantly filling out appeal forms for the account to see if we can get it back. But, um, yeah, in the meantime, we've, we've relaunched, uh, on, on Instagram, which is crazy to say after three years and 8,000 followers, we are, we are starting from scratch.
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So, so if you guys know each other, just let each other know. Yes. The biggest thing that you guys can do to help is just spread the word that we are at adventures and collecting now on Instagram. Um, the same sort of content you're used to seeing, which is also leading itself to like an additional problem because people are seeing the posts that they're used to seeing from adventures and collecting. Um, so you may not realize that you are not following us just because you're seeing, you're still seeing our stuff. So I just.
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Take a second to go to at adventures in collecting. Make sure that you are following us.

Interview with Michael Hernandez

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So that way you don't miss stuff. Um, and, and help us, help us rebuild that, that AIC family that we've, we've, uh, we've come to know over the last three years. So, uh, and big shouts to, to folks at, at toy amigos and toy shiz and, uh, and Jay Hernandez and nostalgic Adam and dollar slice bootlegs and so on and so on and so on for, for sharing the information and helping us.
00:04:44
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Yeah, thank you so much to everybody. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, community. Action Figure Insider, too, right? Yes, yes, Dan over at Action Figure Insider. Thank you. It's been tough. It's been a little bit of a struggle, but we'll get there one way or another. We'll get back there. And actually, now we can unbury the lead, but thank you as well to our guests today, Eric. Yes, exactly. For sharing our information
00:05:11
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Exactly. So, as has become usual with the pod, we have a guest today. The world of the MCU and the ever-popular Hasbro Marvel Legends line recently collided like never before. Thanks to a little help from toy journalist and reviewer, The Figure Report. You see, much like the recent Disney Plus series, the figures in question are based off of the story of the first in-hand review of the new Moon Knight and Mr. Knight
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came complete with its own twist ending as the figure reports Michael Hernandez revealed that he is Moon Knight's star Oscar Isaac's brother, an actor himself who also worked on set as Mark and Steven's body double, helping to create the show's magic. Joining us today on the pod is Michael Hernandez. Michael, welcome to Adventures in Collecting.
00:06:01
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Hey, guys. How you doing? I'm sorry to hear about the Instagram thing. I mean, you must have pissed someone off, Instagram or something. I'm not sure what happened. You know, we can't figure it out. There's no answer. Yeah, it's... It's a huge mystery, but... Yeah. So we'll do our best to... The way that I look at it is if we were able to do it once,
00:06:25
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We'll be able to do it again and we'll keep growing. I mean, hey, we started just a couple of weeks ago on this new account with just like 100 followers and we're already almost at 600. It's slow goings. It's not 8,000, but we'll get there. We'll get there. You will get there. Yes. If you build it, they will come. Exactly. Before we get started, as this is a show about collecting, the first thing we ask all of our guests, what are you currently collecting?
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Um, basically I'm collecting whatever will not infuriate my fiance because our apartment's very small and so I've had to limit our collection, you know, my collection. I call it our collection now. It's become like a unified thing.

Journey into Toy Collecting

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Um, so primarily a lot of like Mayfex stuff, Mayfex X-Men specifically. Um, I had to whittle down a lot of the Mayfex stuff I wanted to get. Um,
00:07:20
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It's actually been kind of cool because it's also refreshing to not feel like I have all these, like, hundreds and hundreds of pre-orders. I mean, that's a little bit of hyperbole there. But, you know, it's just a bunch of pre-orders of stuff that I don't know when it's going to come. And so narrowing down my collection, collecting stuff that I really love and want would include the Mayfix expense stuff. A few Marvel Legends here and there.
00:07:44
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I'm tempted by everything, man, just like anyone else. I see something new and I want it and it's hard to deny myself something that looks really awesome and cool and new and different. But right now it's slow and steady with the collecting. So bring it down a little bit, get a few things here and there. And that's kind of where my collection's at right now.
00:08:05
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Yeah, I think we're going to start to see that more of an answer, you know, as we kind of, as the pandemic starts to dwindle and dwindle and people start to kind of get back into other aspects of their life. Because typically, you know, the answer we've been getting is like, you know, the, yeah, it's more like, yeah.
00:08:26
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Yeah, it's um, it's exactly I think like during the pandemic, it was like collecting took on a whole new level of existence just for me specifically, I started watching a lot more reviewers and getting kind of more into like, oh, look at this, look at that stuff I had noticed, but I wasn't sure if I wanted and then before I knew I was just getting stuff like every week, I wasn't going out. So I had to have stuff come to me.
00:08:50
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I just ordered a bunch of stuff and I got a little bit too much. And then I was like, what am I doing? What have I done? I've gone mad with toys.

The Figure Report and Toy Community

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And it actually brings up a good point too, because we weren't going anywhere. So you couldn't see anything on the shelves and on the pegs. So the reviews and the videos and the unboxings were the pegs in theory, because otherwise you're just looking at whatever's on that online store, whether you're going to Target or a more specialized place.
00:09:26
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it's you know the reviewers were the ones who were kind of saying like hey this is this is what this is um this is this is your kind of in-hand view of it
00:09:37
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Yeah, I think that's, that is very true. And also the fact that I think also manufacturers and different people started focusing more on their online releases and online schedules and a lot more reveals through like YouTubers and stuff like that. That started happening a lot more. I saw like a little bit like in 2021, 22 this year as well. So.
00:09:57
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Yeah, it's just taking a whole new form of collecting where mostly everything is online. And so you pre-order everything online now. I mean, NECA does that now. Like I remember going out searching desperately for like a Bebop and Rocksteady two-pack and, you know, calling every target. Now I don't even step in target anymore. I need some toilet paper. Like it's like toys for me have all become online, which is good and bad. It has the pros and cons I feel, but yeah, collecting is always,
00:10:27
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transforming and the evolution of it. It's always changing our habits and how we collect, especially mine specifically. And I'm kind of in a happy place right now in my collection. I have a lot of stuff that I've always wanted. A few little things here and there I want to still get, but overall, I'm in a pretty decent place, I gotta say.

Creative Process in Toy Reviews

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So what started your collection? Like, what was the thing where you were like, hey, this I need, and it just kind of went on from there?
00:10:55
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Yeah, so I come from a long line of toy enthusiasts and collectors. My uncle grew up in Guatemala, and he grew up a big Star Wars fan, and he started collecting the old vintage 7080 Kenner toys. And so that was his love. And so it kind of passed through to my cousin, who is also a collector.
00:11:16
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than to me, uh, down the generation, uh, just like long list of collectors. And so it kind of happened from there. And then, you know, as a kid, I was into all like based like Fox cartoon stuff, you know, X-Men, Spider-Man and Batman as well.
00:11:32
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All that stuff was right up my alley. And then just toys were just super fun. And then I'm trying to remember where my first figure was, if I can. Not entirely sure, but I remember getting all of the Spider-Man cartoon figures. That was my thing, and also the X-Men ones. And then eventually it went to just getting stuff for my birthday or Christmas to actively hunting.
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and going with my uncle to Toys R Us in Walmart every day and like pallet searching, you know. And so it's just, it's always been like a part of my life. So, so going from the actual, you know, collecting itself and, and, you know, kind of just enjoying the toys privately, what led you to start the figure report? So we just mentioned the pandemic. And so it kind of spawned from there. I was just home watching videos, not doing a lot.
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Um, which is kind of like my normal routine anyway, but specifically not being able to go outside. So, um,

Comparing Live Unboxings and Edited Videos

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as a joke, by the way, I do do stuff. I am active, but yeah. So, um, just to spell any rumors out there. So yeah. So then my fiance was with my girlfriend at the time. I was like, why don't you like do like a video? Why don't you start like your own channel and like.
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do something do something basically sound like that's a good idea and like i had so much stuff already she's like why don't you just take the stuff you have and do you like some videos on them you know i have fun with them like cool i immediately proceed as an order like ten new figures i'm like i'm gonna review the newest stuff and so it kind of was like
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I had some stuff like I took pictures of and played with and posed with as well and and So the figure importers came out of that just like wanting to do something fun with like this new stuff I was getting and like doing on box stains with my roommate at time Jay and Then doing little videos here and there So it really came from her telling me to do something and yeah, so she's always a great motivator That's awesome to have that uh, that uh, that little, you know, a catalyst a little little kickstart
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Yeah, a little push, a little push, a little motivational push. Yeah, having the support rules, it's the best. Well, yeah, for sure. It's supporting also control because it's like, she's telling me, she's telling me, okay, you have so much stuff, I can just do something with it. It's a great idea. And I was like, I know what are new figures because I got to have more. I got to keep up to date with everything. And so a certain point became very overwhelming
00:14:06
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trying to be like, okay, I'm going to get this. I'm going to review this. I'm going to take some pictures. I'm going to do an unboxing. I know I wouldn't really go anywhere because I'd just be overwhelmed with so many figures. But now it's like trying to manage my collection a little bit better. But the figure report is just a fun thing. That's a cool way to connect with a community I've loved for a long time and never really
00:14:29
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was aware of how to. Before in Miami, I actually wrote, that's where I grew up and I was raised, lived in Miami for like 20 something years. I started writing articles on figures. I can't find the articles anymore because it was for like examiner.com. I don't know if you guys remember that website.
00:14:47
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Um, so I did like local toy reporter for the website. So I did some reviews on certain figures, like profiles on some comic book stores and local stores in Miami. And then, um, that was like my first kind of like way into like toy journalism. And then figure report came about through the pandemic and it's been fun just like connecting with people and talking about toys. And yeah, it's really, really cool.

Behind the Scenes of Moon Knight

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So having done so much work on TV and film, do you take any of what you've learned on set into making reviews on the Figure Report? Basically, I try to just be like, okay, what do I find fun and entertaining? You know, I try to keep it professional. Like if I am part of a set of a TV show or a film, it's hard to kind of translate what I learned from there to Figure Report because I was doing Figure Report.
00:15:41
Speaker
I mean, I guess like, yeah, I was doing it in 2020, I had been acting a little, you know, starting I just started acting in 2017. So I'm still relatively new to the field. But yeah, I think just like what I find entertaining, you know, if I find something interesting, or like, oh, like, how do I imagine stuff in my mind, how, like, they storyboard stuff that was very helpful with figure report, trying to feel like, okay, I have a beginning and middle
00:16:05
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and an end to the story I want to tell with my videos, but also something that I would enjoy watching if it wasn't me. So yeah, I think there's some parallels to what I've done in film and TV and what I've learned from there and brought it to Figure Report. A lot of editing as well, like learning what's a great program to edit with.
00:16:30
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Yeah, so those are a few things. And then also showing it to like, some of my co workers and being a little embarrassed, but then also being like, you know, like they're really receptive to it, too. It's like, I think they're all in the creative field. And so they see that creativity through action figures as well, whether you're making a video or you're doing pictures.
00:16:52
Speaker
So you feel a little less embarrassed. Also, I mean, the biggest properties are the toy figures that like they're based off of like Marvel and Star Wars and stuff. So they're just like unanimous. They're all over the world. So people recognize these, these brands. So, you know, having little figures is not like a new concept, but this whole world of collecting and making videos and realizing how popular they are. And, you know, in, in concert with the property, the properties they're based off of.
00:17:21
Speaker
People get it, they can connect with it in a certain way. It's cool to see those things come together.
00:17:32
Speaker
Plus, there's way, way more of us than I think people realize. There's a lot of- Dozens of us. Dozens. No, but there's- We might even hit the triple digits. Really close. There's a lot more people out there that are like quiet action figure collectors, or at the very least, collectibles. If they're not buying the other $20 pop Marvel Legends figures, you'll find that
00:17:59
Speaker
You start talking about action figures and people are like, oh, well, yeah, I have 20 hot toys figures. People have been collecting stuff forever. It's not like a new concept to be a collector or a hobby, like an enthusiast of a certain product or something. If it's not action figures, you're collecting something and people have to collect.
00:18:18
Speaker
little spoons or dinosaur fossils or something. Something they think is cool and that they have some extra cash to spend on or something they have a lot of love with and want to connect with people through that specific thing. It's not a new concept, right? So being able to do something creative and fun and connect with people is a pretty awesome part of making these videos.
00:18:47
Speaker
The other thing that I find like interesting too, cause you talked about like bouncing it off of bouncing the videos and the articles and stuff off of people that you know, some of the most interesting like kind of thought process I've had or feedback that I've had is people who don't collect. Yeah. Because it's like, Hey, what's interesting to someone who has no basis in this whatsoever.
00:19:09
Speaker
Right. Yeah. And that's kind of what I aim to do is like, I try to find a medium between the two places, a gray area where it's appealing to collectors and also non collectors or what
00:19:21
Speaker
they find interesting. And so it's hard to, you're not gonna please everyone, that's just impossible. And I at least try to find a place where, like you just said, how do non-collectors approach it, what they think about it. So I show videos to everyone from like my collector friends, my uncle,
00:19:41
Speaker
my cousin who are also collectors. And I show it to my brother or my sister-in-law, my fiance, other members of my family, other friends. So I try to like, you know, other people that I know and like the other, like maybe like a director that I know, you know, I'm interested in what he thinks, you know? And so like, it's cool to kind of get an idea of what generally people like. And a lot of people love seeing, you know, a lot of personality. They love humor. They like something that looks creative.
00:20:11
Speaker
It looks a little bit like, oh, someone had fun making this, you know, because again, your toys, they shouldn't be taken so seriously. And you should be having fun posing and taking pictures and doing videos, even if you don't like to figure, you know, it's still a fun, you're still playing, you know, just like you would on set. And, you know,
00:20:31
Speaker
It's the same kind of thing. That's also one thing I could say that maybe I took from working on film and TV is that these are fun things to do. You're playing, you're pretending. So doing the work should feel fun and it should feel like work at the same time. So yeah, it's interesting getting feedback and reaction from people that are both in the toy world and not toy world.
00:20:58
Speaker
So speaking of the interaction and the interactivity of the community, since you've started doing your reviews and your videos, do you prefer live unboxings or do you find yourself more of a perfectionist with the way that you did the Moon Knight reveal video where you had time to edit and tweak and get timing and everything?
00:21:22
Speaker
Well, thank you. I also agree that my video was a perfection. So thank you for telling me that. I'm glad someone finally was, you know, man enough to tell me.

Humor and Custom Action Figures

00:21:34
Speaker
No, I am, like you said, I think there's that perfectionist
00:21:41
Speaker
seed in your mind when you're editing something, putting something together. I went through maybe three different versions of the Moon Knight review and I showed it to different people. I tried different things.
00:21:57
Speaker
I got to a point where I was like okay I really need to like focus on the things that I enjoyed I think would be fun for people to watch something that's fun to shoot and you know not take it so seriously but also have enough information for people that they get a good idea of what the moonlight figure offers and Mr. Knight so
00:22:17
Speaker
There is a lot of fun in delivering that kind of material, but also it's a painstakingly, you know, arduous editing process because I want it to be great. I want it to sound great. I don't know if you can hear, but I was to do it with like, you know, sirens at every single point, like an hour on the hour kind of thing. So like I have a lot of noise. It's hard to edit inside a small apartment sometimes. So that's why it's also fun to just do the unboxing. So you don't have to worry about all that stuff. You don't have to worry about outside noise and
00:22:46
Speaker
you know, certain conditions, you can just have fun, be on the spot. That's also like a fun thing. Like I took some improv classes just for the hell of it, you know, and so it was fun to kind of just, you know, shoot off the cuff. It's kind of what I used to do in Miami. I used to be a college radio DJ. And so a lot of it was just like, you know, getting on the air and just finding like a funny thing to talk about or some ideas you wanted to tell people or, you know, I take live phone calls and see how those interactions goes and come up with sketches on,
00:23:15
Speaker
on the air. And so taking some of that energy into the unboxings is fun and interacting with people. That's cool. So they all have their differences, you know, that I enjoy and stuff that I find maybe stressful. But I like doing them both. So I want to do I definitely want to do more videos, more reviews and keep the lives going as well. Those are really fun to interact with people.
00:23:42
Speaker
So you've worked in films with your brother before, but nothing quite like this. Was it challenging alternating between Steven and Mark for takes? So tell us a little bit about how that experience on the Moon Knight series worked. Was it tough for me to alternate between Mark and Steven?
00:24:02
Speaker
Yeah, correct. I mean, well, both of you, we're kind of doing it simultaneously, right? Right. Yeah. So basically,

Future of the Figure Report

00:24:11
Speaker
our day would involve, OK, who are we doing first? Are we going to cover Mark first or are we covering Steven? And so that's kind of like how the day started, especially when we got to those scenes where, I mean, you guys seen the whole show, right? Yeah. So spoilers to follow if you have not watched Moon Knight on Disney Plus.
00:24:32
Speaker
Maybe pause right now. Yeah, don't stop listening. Like you can pick this back up later. We want you to hear this. Well, you can pause it or mute it. So, you know, long as it plays fully and then go back to this part. But do watch the show because A, it rules, but B, you don't want to hear things that you haven't watched yet. Exactly. So here comes the secret portion. Secrets.
00:24:55
Speaker
Okay, secret time. So in episode five, you see or end of episode four and all of episode five, it's Mark and Steven and their and their own bodies, right? So then those scenes required either me, you know, next to him, or off camera giving lines, or sometimes over my shoulder. And so the day of
00:25:17
Speaker
we would see, OK, who's kind of driving the scene, right? And then we'd go off, OK, we're going to do with Mark first. We're going to start off with Mark. And then we would try to do, because sometimes we get a lot for an actor that's doing two characters, to go, Mark, Steven, Mark, Steven. So we try to find the most seamless way of just doing Mark first, and then Steven towards the second half of.
00:25:41
Speaker
of our day. And so primarily, I was just trying to get an Oscar to wavelength. And so we would talk about stuff either before we shot or right when we get up to it. And a lot of the times, we would get our script or the day of the night before.
00:26:02
Speaker
sides as we call them and then you know you read the different sides and um you have your call sheet and everything and tells you okay you're gonna be Steven first but then reading the scenes I try to anticipate a lot of it is anticipation being like okay what's Oscar gonna do in this scene how's he gonna behave in this one what's this kind of
00:26:20
Speaker
mind, his state of mind for Mark, this just happened before. So now he's like this. So this is his energy level. This is what's going through his mind, you know, so always having those things in mind so that I'm playing it as authentically and as real as Oscar would, you know, and so trying just to be there, you know, and the fact that like, I kind of know him, I know his, you know, some of his patterns, but like working with him on this level is different. And also like learning how to like step back and realizing it's not about
00:26:51
Speaker
you because an actor has a very fragile ego sometimes. So channeling that ego being like, okay, it's not about you. It's about this whole thing about this production is about, you know, getting him to a place that feels authentic because he's the one giving the performance. So it was cool that it was also like lesson in acting. It was a
00:27:09
Speaker
a masterclass, you know, and that was a lot of fun to do. And yeah, so it was it was that whole stuff, it was technically difficult, because, you know, you rely a lot of like, on timing and camera movement and hitting your mark at a very specific time, when the two characters meet like in the hallway, and when they're walking, it's all has to be in
00:27:34
Speaker
and imperfect synchronicity. So those things got a little tedious and difficult, but I think the character work was really fun. I think Oscar enjoyed it as well. I think he felt pretty good about it. So when you got a chance to be Stephen, were you doing the accent and everything too, in order to kind of keep the mood and everything as consistent as possible? Absolutely.
00:28:01
Speaker
Yeah, so we did the accent. We did the whole thing. We did the Chicago accent for Mark and then the British accent for Steven. And you know, mine wasn't so great, but I at least did it to the best that I could to make it just feel like it's actually there. And a lot of it would just be to make Oscar laugh. Like we just do a lot of like,
00:28:20
Speaker
funny stuff on, you know, just like talking the accent, a lot of like, I can't believe we've done this, you know, and just, you know, it was just, it was just to also make the mood a little like hard, especially when it had like really serious stuff going on. But also just to like entertain and be fun, and to make the experience go a lot smoother, I think. And so that was something I felt like I added to the whole process of making the show.
00:28:46
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I would spend some weekends, um, like training for an hour with the dialect coach that was on set of Barbara Berkeley. She had done like hundreds of projects. Um, and so I would just talk to her and she gave me this sheets of different practices, um, accent practices and.
00:29:07
Speaker
learning how to say certain vowels this way and reference this. I've referenced an old Michael Caine film or different examples of how to do the accent. It was a very specific accent.
00:29:21
Speaker
And so it was just fun to do. Like I had a lot of fun doing it and it just made it more fun sometimes for certain scenes. Yeah, I would do that. I would do that. I would sometimes read off like, you know, read off camera, like contour lines or something, you know? And so it was just like, it was just like, we were just making this thing and having a lot of fun with it, you know? And I think that spread throughout the whole crew. And now a word from our sponsors.
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And now back to the show. It was it was great watching it after after you had revealed, you know, the figures and, you know, and kind of the twist ending of your your video. It was fun watching. Like, I mean, this show was great, you know, to begin with. But then when when it got to like episode five and, you know, like kind of just knowing like, oh, that's really cool. That's, you know, you're kind of seeing
00:31:20
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getting that that kind of behind the scenes like Tidbit before the episodes happen made it I think in a lot of ways to a lot more fun to watch knowing that like oh this isn't we're not seeing you know pure CGI this isn't like you know Oscar having to do this
00:31:39
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fully do this twice or like random stand in like it's his brother and like it's just it was it was very it was very cool. It was like he's talking to like a tennis ball and crying to like, you know, like an ex or something, you know, like, actually connecting with another person. And the fact that it was me, I think made it more, hopefully made it more believable. He was actually talking to someone that was basically him and better than that than his brother, right?
00:32:04
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You're welcome. But I think that, yeah, hopefully it really translated to screen, you know, I think it was like, I was really happy to be a part of like that specific episode, like that was the main part where like I had to really come in and deliver. That's like has the most like dramatic meat, you know, to the whole show, like that's kind of like where you really understand why this is all happening and who Mark is and
00:32:31
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how Steven came to be and learning about DID and the concepts of DID and seeing where it comes from and how childhood trauma creates
00:32:43
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an altar, you know, to protect yourself. You almost developed a superhuman power of safety and security. And that's where the altars come from. And so, yeah, it was really awesome to be a part of that and to make it feel as real and authentic as it could be told within the Marvel Cinematic World. And I think that's also the cool thing about Marvel.
00:33:08
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movies and shows that they try to tell a human story that's encased in this giant Marvel spectacle of heroes and villains, you know, of different worlds and multiverses and everything and afterlives and afterlives. And yeah, it's it's it's but it's cool to get to like an actual, you know, the actual character and the actual story and really trying to tell a story. And that's where you feel like you're really doing some some good work.
00:33:37
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And so for me, it was just trying to connect with it, understand it. It was like a lot of scenes where like you see Mark breaking down and getting emotional, very emotional. And so, you know, those scenes, like I think about it, like, okay, should I try to be crying in this? And it's not about showing emotion. It's all about like intention, like why you feel a certain way and not, you're just doing it. And so, you know, I knew that, but then like in your head, you kind of get like, okay, I have to do it this way. I have to be very specific.
00:34:07
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but sometimes you just have to feel it, just feel it and let it happen. And that's when it feels like it's the real honest thing that you're doing. What would you say was the most surreal part of your Moon Knight experience? I would say definitely putting on a fake nose. That was something that, I don't know if it was in my contract or not, but it happened, man. And that was a little odd.
00:34:36
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The first time they did the casing, that was kind of cool, was when they poured the green goop over your head, always seeing behind the scenes where they do a full-on casing of someone's face, and they can reproduce it for a mask or whatever. So they did that, being in darkness for 30 minutes, half an hour, and you have little holes that you can breathe out of, and then pulling it off. That whole process was really cool, and going through different wigs,
00:35:05
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whole different nose process being like, okay, should we do just a nose? We have like cheek parts, we have chin parts. So we have all these different little like face parts that we could put on my face. We decided just to go with the nose because that was the most predominant and beautiful feature of Oscar that replicate. And yeah, so that was that was kind of surreal, for sure, putting on that stuff. And then
00:35:34
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Yeah, I think just being on camera for the first time, not really being on camera, but just being with all these people and seeing it move and also this first time seeing Oscar in the Mr. Knight costume was pretty surreal. Like, oh wow, we're really making a superhero show right now. That was pretty cool.
00:35:55
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So going from the set and seeing these characters in real life to getting the opportunity to get your hands on the toy versions of them, how did the opportunity come up with the Marvel Legends team? Yeah. So this guy, Nick Pepin, who works on the show, I forget his title, but he's up there. Really cool guy. Also a fellow collector. He actually came up to me like,
00:36:20
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one of the first days we started working, he's like, Hey, so I follow the figure report. I'm like, Oh, cool, man. You know, like I'm kind of a collector as well. And we just became like really good friends off the bat. I mean, you told me you're a figure collector, I'm going to connect like, you know, it's already like this is supposed to happen, bro. So we were just cool. And like we talked about, you know, just our collecting and like what we like and
00:36:42
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And then, you know, he started like telling me like, Hey, you know, so, you know, we're obviously going to do like more of a legend versions of this. I'm like, Oh, no shit. And, you know, got my gears spinning for sure. Like I'd kind of do the figure report. Right. And so, um, towards the end, I like basically asked him like, come on, let's, let's make this happen. You know, like I'm working on the show. I have a figured channel. It just feels like it's meant to be like, it'd be weird to some.
00:37:10
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other guy did it. Come on, let's make it happen. And so not so begging, but politely asking. And then he said, I'll see what I can do. He got in touch with some people. And then a little bit afterwards, after
00:37:27
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I got back from LA where we had the moonlight premiere. Dan Yoon from the legend team reached out and then we set up a meeting and then we talked about how he and the team thought it'd be a great idea for me to do a review on the figures. I said that is a great idea.
00:37:45
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And I agree with you completely. And let's do this. And so that's how it came about, just like a little bit of waiting period and seeing where it would go. And yeah, it was cool. I really appreciate Nick doing that and recommending me for the review. It's awesome, because recently, the Marvel Legends team, they've been on the pod before, Steve, Ryan, Dan, Dwight.
00:38:13
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the outreach that they've been doing with the toy community and utilizing other YouTube reviewers or social media influencers in the toy community as a whole to do these reveals has been really fun because in a lot of ways too, it
00:38:29
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introduces, you know, uh, introduces people to sometimes maybe the reviewers that they, that they don't watch all the time, you know, like, you know, they gave, you know, Jay Hernandez, super sorrel, um, you know, the opportunities to, to take a look at, at, you know, early, early figures. So initially when, you know, the teases started coming out that, that you were, you had the moonlight figures.
00:38:52
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It was just cool because initially everyone was like, Oh, like, Oh, this must be a new reviewer. You know, he must be doing something like, you know, really cool. Like can't wait to see the review. And of course, you know, everybody started sharing it, not realizing what the, you know, again, like that twist would be. I'm sitting here smiling, just kind of thinking that it's, that it's actually like, yes, he is doing something really cool aside from this. Yeah. And then, you know, it gets to the end of the video and you're sitting there like, Oh,
00:39:18
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Oh, I have my own reveal. You know, I have my own Jake Lockley moment. Yes. Yeah, except that except no silencer not needed. Except I didn't shoot anyone. Yeah, that's true. Except I'm not possessed by an ancient God. Or am I? No, no, you have to wait for, you know, season two or film if we do another moon night. So we'll see.
00:39:41
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But yeah, exactly. I think that's a cool opportunity for both, for I think Marvel Legends Hasbro and for Toy Reviewers to have a cool new thing that you get to talk about and show off to people and also for them to connect with more people in the community. And so I think it works for both parties involved that we both get a little something out of it.
00:40:03
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And yeah, I think it's really cool. Like you mentioned, you know, Steve and the rest of the team talking to you guys. I remember just like kind of like looking through like my Instagram and I saw like, Oh, Steve started following me. Oh, Dan used, Orion started following me. Like, you know, like the thing where like you like have like someone that like you're interested in, they start following you like on Facebook or like Instagram, like, Oh, hello, you know, that kind of thing. And so I was like, Oh, I think something's gonna happen.
00:40:27
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And then eventually, you know, like, I would have been very disappointed. They just started following me for no reason. Like, that would have been cool. But like, I knew I had intent behind it. I knew there was a reason. I think it was just kind of scoping me out to make sure I wasn't a scumbag. And they were like, Okay, that's cool. We can definitely give them the figures to reveal. So mention your brother. It's not the first time he's had action figures of himself. But
00:40:55
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Did you have the opportunity to introduce these particular figures of the Moon Knight and Mr. Knight figures to him? Yes, physically, yes. He had seen some early concept, you know, the figures, like the 3D scans, basically. And so we were like, oh, that's gonna be awesome. So then when I finally got the figures, I was like, I gotta go show them. We are basically neighbors, too. We live in the same, like,
00:41:18
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zip code area. So, um, you know, I walked on over, I showed him the figures and that video that I posted of him giving a thumbs up, that was his first viewing of the action figures. So, um, that was really cool to show him, you know, and also cool for has brother big. Oh, look, you have one of the, you have the actual star moon knight playing with the toys that you made of him. So, um, that was, that was cool to show him those figures. And like,
00:41:45
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It wasn't the first time I've shown him figures of himself. I mean, if you've seen the Black Search figures, oh boy, we've had a lot of fun with those bastardizations of our work. I mean, I did a video back in Miami when Force Awakens came out. I was working with a...
00:42:04
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Um, I was working with a newspaper with, um, call them Miami new times. And so I was working with them. I did like concert reviews and stuff like that. And then the Oscar was coming down for promo for force awakens. I'm like, I gotta do, like, we gotta do something. So then I reached out to them, reached out to his people. We arranged the video interview where I think it's still on YouTube somewhere. Um, not sure where exactly, but.
00:42:31
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We did a video interview, we played Street Fighter, and then we talked about the movie, and then we talked about his action figures, and just how monstrous they were. And so we compared them to like...
00:42:43
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like different like characters and film and TV and like they look like the small guy from Twin Peaks. I don't know if you guys ever seen Twin Peaks. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Like the small guy is in the room, the black room, I think it's called the lodge, the black lodge. So that guy kind of looks like the figure, kind of looks like a mutated Benicio del Toro, who eventually got into Star Wars. So we just had like, he was just like, aghast by appalled by the
00:43:11
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the black series figures. So we're still waiting on Hasbro to make a decent Oscar sculpt. So if you're listening, get to work boys. And yeah, that though the one so I have mostly the three and three quarter inch figures. So his his first one for the three and three quarter inch was the you know, the little black series figure. And I remember thinking that it looked like Columbo. They all look like someone except Oscar, all of them.
00:43:41
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the only one that came close I just have the pop so I'm like oh yeah you're fine you don't have to worry about that the only one that came close was the the Last Jedi one
00:43:55
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the one yeah it was like it was packed in with something I don't actually know it was a single card release but no it was a single card yeah yeah that's right that one came that one came close that one came yes I've seen it a couple people already you know head swapping onto Marvel Legends moon knight figures with yes like like close but like in a slightly deformed way yeah I agree for sure
00:44:18
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I think there was one that was like a Disney style figure, like more like eight inch style that came out for the First Awakens. That one did a good, I think a fairly decent job. And then like Kodo had like a statue version, I think was kind of decent, but still they've all been decent to appalling. So that's kind of like, that's kind of like where it is. That's kind of like where they fall.
00:44:44
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Well, I for one enjoy my Peter Falk as Poe Dameron action figure. I think it's, I think it's wonderful. Yeah. So I mean, hopefully, hopefully we get more, uh, more MCU moon night in, in the future and, you know, get, get a crack at a, you know, the, give the Marvel legends team a crack at, uh, getting your brother's likeness, right.
00:45:08
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I mean, they're looking better, right? I thought the Benedict Cumberbatch one was pretty good. They seem to be getting better and better with the 3D printing, the face scans. So let's hope they get Oscar right. Yeah, the new Thor figures, the new Chris Hemsworth, Natalie Portman. We haven't seen exactly what he looks like in the film yet, but even the Gore, the God Butcher,
00:45:35
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Wow. Yeah, it looks like Christian Gill. It looks like Christian Gill. So that's pretty good. Great job. So now it's time for some Q&A. This segment is brought to you by our friends at Chubsy Wubsy Toys, a traditional mom and pop toy store in Little Falls, New Jersey. Chubsy Wubsy Toys brings you the best new toys from the brands you love without the hassle of pounding the pavement, searching for them at larger retail stores.
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00:46:22
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We sent out a post to our followers asking if anyone had any questions for you and we did get a few. So these next few questions come from Adventures in Collecting followers. I said it at the top, but if you want a chance to ask a question in a future episode of Adventures in Collecting, you've got to follow us at Adventures in Collecting on Instagram. When we have guests on, we do these little Q&A segments and we ask for some questions. So if you want an opportunity in the future,
00:46:52
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Make sure you're following us there at Adventures in Collecting. Dave, do you want to do the first question here? I can. At 3v1i underscore cosplay asks, what figure from your childhood did you always want but never get? So I was pretty lucky that my mom would
00:47:17
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really hook it up with the stuff I wanted. I was really into all the ToyBiz X-Men figures. I remember asking for either Strong Guy or Brood and it would have been like a month I had asked for it and finally I got it and I was really surprised. The one thing I guess would be not a toy but a video game system would be the SNES. I went with my dad to Toys R Us
00:47:41
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under the impression, the false impression that we were both getting an SNES for me, Super Nintendo. And then like, I'm like, oh, dad, thanks for getting this for me. Like what?
00:47:52
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I'm like, yeah, thank you. He's like, oh, this is for me. I'm like, oh. And so I knew that was a fact because he proceeded to buy two games I had no interest in. He bought Monopoly and he bought a board game for the Super Nintendo. That's how much of a dad he is. And then he bought a game called Wings 2, which was a really awful World War II flight simulator.
00:48:18
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It was, I played that game for, I think for like three months. And like, it was the most frustrating game I've ever played in my life. I kept dying. And all I had to play was Wings 2 for like a few months. And yeah, that was one that was, that was a putter burn by my dad. Really got me on that one. Sick dad burn. Sick dad burn, bro.
00:48:40
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Our next question comes from at Oscar Isaac Italia and they ask What's it like filming alongside your brother? Do you tend to agree artistically when shooting? Okay, well first of all Bonjourno And second of all What do we like shooting? Like what was like shooting with him? Yeah, so when you're filming alongside your brother, do you guys tend to agree artistically when you're when you're working together?
00:49:09
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Um, if by artistically agreeing together, meaning that I just listened to him, he tells me to do this and I say, yes, sir. Yes. Then we'd a hundred percent agree artistically. Um, no, yeah. I mean, you know, it would be like, like I mentioned before, just kind of identifying the intention of it all and talking to him about that. Um, you know, he already knows what these characters are. I'm not coming in with like, Hey, I think you should
00:49:38
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You know, I think in this scene, Steven's more, you know, it's like, no, I'm listening to like, he's the one driving, you know, he's the actor, he's the one really doing this stuff. So I'm an actor as well. But you know, I know my role in this whole show. So yeah, like, you know,
00:49:53
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Like the day before we shoot, I would read the sides, I read the script for the day. I'd be like, okay, I think Oscar's probably gonna play Steven first because of this and this. And so in my mind, I already know who I'm gonna play. And then we get there and then usually I'd be like, right, like 90% of the time. And so I just kinda like, I kinda see what he has in store, what he has in mind for stuff.
00:50:20
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But, again, predominantly, it was just to make sure that I was helping him get to a certain place when he was performing. So, you know, I guess in that sense, we didn't agree artistically, but, you know, he was the one that was, you know, it was his characters. And so I just wanted to make sure I was disturbing them right. All right.
00:50:49
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Where do you see the figure report five years from now? What are your goals in toy journalism? Five years from now, hopefully still collecting.
00:51:01
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in case there's like an apocalypse, I don't know, I can't foresee that. But yeah, I mean, just kind of doing similar stuff, making some more videos, making that hot content that people love. And, you know, pictures and Instagram lives and stuff. It'd be cool to like maybe, you know, do something at a convention or something, do like a live show, that'd be a lot of fun. Maybe have some more guests on and stuff like that.
00:51:31
Speaker
It's kind of just like, you know, I'm leaving it to just imagination. Like I had no real like set plans. Okay. Year two figure report has to be here. Year five on eBay subscribers. Probably a good idea. I set some goals like that, but I'm also always just, you know, winging it and having fun with it. And I have a large collection of new and older figures. So I want to definitely show off some older figures as well.
00:51:59
Speaker
So I would like to do some more like my vintage toys that I have, but stuff from like 2000 era. Um, so I'll do more stuff like that. And then also just current stuff that comes out seldomly, you know, those are kind of like my goals. Awesome. Well, you have, you have survived, uh, the Q and a session. Congratulations. I got a little golf club. You did it, sweating a little bit, uh, which brings us to our final question. And I feel like.
00:52:28
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This is fun, because Dave, I don't think you've ever gotten, you did ask this to Jay, and Jay Hernandez is also an actor. So this is the second actor you've gotten to ask this question to, inside the acting studio themed question. And a voice actor, and a voice actor. Yes, and a voice actor. So the third, this is the third. The third. So Dave, would you like to fulfill your role as this podcast's James Lipton and ask the final question? Yes, I would.
00:52:56
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So the final question that we ask all of our guests, what is your favorite and or strangest piece in your collection? It can be one of each or it can be both. Strangest piece I have in my collection. You know, I don't consider any of them strange. I consider them just like parts of my being and maybe I'm part strange. And so going through my collection,
00:53:25
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I have a lot of stuff that's in boxes, not gonna lie. And so it's been like, I think the best part of the collecting has been opening everything when I had to move. Like that was such a thrilling experience because also I had a lot of toys to open. But strange part, strange toy I have in my collection. I have a couple of Oscar heads. I have a couple of custom Oscar heads.
00:53:54
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And they kind of creep me out, but they kind of look like him. And so that's a very weird thing to own a figure of your relative, of your brother or someone you're very close with. It's, um, that's kind of odd, but then you kind of forget about it, but then it also kind of comes back every now and then you're like, Oh, gross. And, um, uh, yeah, that would be like the strange thing. I'm pretty normal. I'm pretty staying when it comes to, I like, I don't have like,
00:54:23
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You know, like anything that's worth like $2,000 or something like I found like at a weird convention hall in Las Vegas or something.
00:54:33
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I've been pretty good when it comes to my spending, when it comes to stuff I get that's within my collecting realm, the stuff I have interest in. There hasn't been anything that I've found or wanted that felt like, oh, this is kind of a skewing to a whole different world of collecting. Yeah.
00:54:58
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It was a good question. I remember you sent it to me. I kept thinking about it. And then, you know, unless you find just regular toy collecting strange, yeah, I don't really have anything that's really out there. I'm sorry. It's a very boring, timid answer, but I, from what I could see, what I look through and what I have in there, um, no, nothing, nothing really crazy or strange. Sorry, guys. Well, I think having, having a custom versions of your
00:55:28
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custom tiny versions of your brother's head is, I think that qualifies. I think that's fine. I think that's very valid. Yeah. It's a little like voodoo-like too. It's like owning like a doll of him so I can perform like Santa Ria or something, you know? I guess in that way it could be very weird if you skew that side. So yeah, let's go with the custom Oscar heads. Well, we like Oscar, so please don't curse him. I will not. Yes. Unless he does something that's really upsetting. I mean, look.
00:55:55
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I think for all the transgressions he committed when I was younger, um, and there's video evidence of all the stuff he used to do. You know, it's an older brother, younger brother kind of, you know, relationship. Um, I think he's been able to repay me all the damage he did. So we're very familiar with that. There's seven years between the two of us. So we're, we're very familiar with that, that younger brother, older brother situation. What was the worst thing that older brother did?
00:56:25
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How long's the list? I mean, you never really did anything that terrible. I mean, there was that one time that, I don't know if you remember, Dave, do you remember that green folding chair I used to have in my room that had like the pouches on the sides on it that like I had like pens and all kinds of stuff in? There's no however I am terrified of what this answer is.
00:56:45
Speaker
We were playing, it was either WWF No Mercy on the N64 or WCW versus NWO Revenge. I honestly don't remember which one. But I beat you. And you picked up the chair and it was a pain in the butt to fold. It was one of those camping chairs that's meant to withstand a hurricane. Did I WWE you with the folding chair? Did I drive this at home?
00:57:13
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You you crushed me with I was sitting in the chair So you picked it up and I thought you were just gonna like angrily throw it across the room because you lost but you Waffled me with the chair and I remember just sitting there thinking and the chair wasn't like wasn't like a metal in the frame was metal but it was like a canvas chair, so you effectively hit me with like a
00:57:34
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piece of canvas but I just remember the the pouches on the side like exploded like pens went everywhere and it was just like it was you know a bad small room so like I got hit with a chair my pens and everything were everywhere and then you just stormed out of the room and I remember sitting there thinking like yeah I have to clean this but at least I won the real winner here you know
00:57:59
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I'm really glad I could open this worm of unresolved sibling trauma that you guys have. So you're welcome. No, overall, he was, I mean, other than the stuff like looking back on like, because now I have two kids and they're four years apart, you know, and I can remember times being like, you know, like I wanted to hang out with my brother and his friends because they were, they were older and like, that's the cooler thing. But like, I was seven years younger. They didn't want anything to do with me. And like now, like I totally get like, it's like, no, get out of here. Like we're watching some horror movie that's going to give you nightmares forever.
00:58:29
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No, same. But the difference is that my brother would show me the R rated movies because he wanted me to have those nightmares. But that was a different but also same seven year gap where he's seven years older than me. And so a lot of that feeling of like, man, I want to hang out with like my cooler older brother. He has like really cool toys and cool friends that are into cool music and
00:58:49
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you know, he has a band. And just like, my brother was like, okay, cool, eat this really hot pepper to be my friend, basically. And so it was just like all these trials I had to pass through these passages of these rights of passages I had to go through to brand the book, okay, you're cool. You know, so it's just part of the process, man. And then
00:59:12
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Yeah, a lot of that. A lot of it's filmed too. There's a film. He's just like, I would just be like his source for pain for his short film for like one called SWAT, where he's like a SWAT team and him and my cousin and a friend.
00:59:28
Speaker
And they like come into like my room, I was actually in my mother's room and they come in filming me and like all along the watchtower from Jimi Hendrix is playing. I was like really dramatic and they're like hog timing. And I'm like, man, like we got him. We got the, we got the perp or something like that. I'm like, you know, I'm like seven years, like, like eight years old or something.
00:59:47
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It was terrible, but it was also very funny. It was also very funny. I laugh on it, you know, laugh about it, but very tortured as a child. But yeah, I mean, it's how it'd be, man. It's just how it'd be. It's the life of being a sibling with an age gap. I mean, I think everyone, regardless of where you grew up in the world, what your
01:00:10
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you know, what your situation is, if you had a sibling, you know, male, female, brother, sister, whatever, I think if there's an age gap there, everyone's got those stories where like, it was tenuous. And then, you know, now like, I mean, we're not in the MCU over here on our end, but like, you know, like we're doing this podcast together, we're closer than we've ever been, you know, it just kind of works out.
01:00:36
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Well, just don't play WWF games anymore. It might create another feeling from those years ago. We don't want any triggering events. We don't want any triggering events, exactly. Michael, thank you so much for taking the time to be on the pod with us and discuss your experiences with Moon Knight and starting up the figure report. Before we let you go, just let everyone know, where can they find you on the internet?
01:01:05
Speaker
Yeah, find me on Instagram at the figure reports, Twitter figure reports, YouTube, the figure report. I'm still working on my Friendster account. So once I get that up and running, I'll let you guys know. Are you on Usenet? Should we get on Usenet? You can go to the website, angelfire.com, backslash, the figure report. So I got a lot of really cool gifts on there.
01:01:32
Speaker
A lot of fun JPEGs and yeah, so those are the main channels and yeah, thanks guys Thank you for letting me plug my stuff and this was so much fun really cool Well, you're welcome back anytime and and hopefully hopefully you're not you're not done with the the moonlight universe Maybe maybe you'll be you'll be back in those back in that fake nose in no time I know the fake nose are waiting for me. I long for it. So it's like I'm in servitude to the fake nose and
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