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Episode 19: Justin + Judd WWE Mega Show
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In a special episode, Justin is joined by our official wrestling correspondent Mike Judd. Justin and Judd bring to you their top 10 wrestlers on the current RAW and Smackdown rosters while also diving into the current WWE state of affairs.
Plus, the Carolina Hurricanes are Stanley Cup Champions, the New York Knicks are NBA Champions, and the College World Series begins winding down to its two finalists. It's championship season on the Coastal Launch Sports Talk and every champion is officially brought to you by Danhausen? As always, we will discuss the somehow most powerful man in sports! All this and more!
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Transcript
Introduction and WWE Episode Preview
00:00:01
Cody Atkinson
Hello and welcome to the Coastal Launch Sports Talk. I'm Justin coming to you from the magic of Orlando, Florida. And this week, guys, we welcome back our official wrestling correspondent, Mike Judd. Tell the people what's up.
00:00:16
mjudd09
Ay, What's happening with everybody? Hope everybody's enjoying so far. Let's get it.
00:00:22
Cody Atkinson
Welcome back, my guy. Today, we will be your destination for, yes, you guessed it, more WWE discussion.
WWE Current State and Top Wrestlers Discussion
00:00:30
Cody Atkinson
We will be discussing the current state of affairs and the WWE, and eventually, now Judd will be getting in on our top 10 list, where we will talking our top 10 wrestlers on the current roster, so...
00:00:41
Cody Atkinson
ros back down no inx exceed just ross back down current rosters um we'll also be talking about both championship series that wrapped up this week um and judd will get to weigh in on is danhausen worth paying to curse other teams for your team to win a championship um all this and more on this week's episode uh so with our trajectory set it's time to sit back lock in and get started with the rundown this is the coles
00:00:57
mjudd09
Hey,
00:01:07
Cody Atkinson
here on episode night team All right, my boy Juddy, you ready for this?
00:01:13
mjudd09
hey I'm all ears. What we got?
00:01:15
Cody Atkinson
Well, first of all, I want to give a shout-out to our boy Cody. He's out of the country this weekend enjoying nice little vacay. deserves a little vacay. So that's why Juddy's here with me when we get to talk wrestling.
00:01:22
mjudd09
morning
00:01:25
Cody Atkinson
we haven't been able to talk wrestling in a couple of weeks, so excited to kick back. But we've got a few topics to talk about before we jump in.
Carolina Hurricanes Championship Win
00:01:32
Cody Atkinson
So right now I want jump into the Stanley Cup Finals, Judd.
00:01:33
mjudd09
Yes.
00:01:36
Cody Atkinson
Last night wrapped up with the Carolina Hurricanes finishing off the Las Vegas Golden Knights in pretty convincing fashion, 3-0 final score of last night's game. um I know you're not big into hockey. We talked about that on the last time were on the pod.
00:01:49
Cody Atkinson
that When the next season rolls around, you and I definitely going to go to a game, get you get you introduced to it all.
00:01:53
mjudd09
yes
00:01:55
Cody Atkinson
But as you've already mentioned, you're a big sports guy in general, you can talk sports. So, you know, talk through kind of what, you know, what it takes to win the championship, and especially at the highest level with like, especially in a sport like hockey, where it takes two months of grinding it out and, and really going head to head against these like other difficult teams.
00:02:14
mjudd09
Hey, I mean, ah hats off to and shout out every single one of those athletes out there on the ice, man. It's one hard enough for there everybody to just even let alone stand on the ice. These guys are flying on the ice. And then on top it, you take the physicality. You take the fact that they're brutally hitting each other every single play. You know, so hats off to all of that because you couldn't pay me enough. um But to be completely honest with you, you know, i do. And I give admiration to those guys like the blood, sweat, tears that these guys are physically doing every single night and they're playing it all on the line every single game. They play like every game is their last. And that's literally what it takes to win. And in as far as winning, they're doing a phenomenal job at it. So to them, hats off, man.
00:03:00
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Cody and I talked about it last week. Like, what is it going to take for this series to kind of, what's going to tipping point? Because the first couple of games went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth um until game three when Dan Housen cursed Las Vegas.
00:03:11
Cody Atkinson
We'll talk about Dan Housen here after after the New York Knicks.
00:03:13
mjudd09
Ken housing.
00:03:14
Cody Atkinson
um But I talked about last week, it's going to come down to what goalie really is going to stand up and and shut out the other team. and the Vegas Golden Knights goalie could not keep the pucks out of the net, gave up four-plus goals every single game of the of the finals except for last night where they only gave up three, still gave up three-nothing on the board.
00:03:22
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:03:33
Cody Atkinson
um So it really came down to the goalie for Carolina really getting getting like getting out there, standing on his head, and and putting out there a championship performance, honestly. – so
00:03:42
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:03:43
Cody Atkinson
um Obviously we're going surface level here because you're not big and you're not, you're not well-versed in hockey. Cody and I will do a little bit more discussion there, but definitely want to touch on that minute, you know, shout out to Carolina.
00:03:52
mjudd09
For sure.
00:03:53
Cody Atkinson
um We talked about it a couple weeks ago that Carolina has been the bridesmaid, never the bride. And finally for them to to get over the hump and, you know, get the job done finally, like huge shout out to them.
00:04:05
Cody Atkinson
um But as we all know, you and I, both big sports guys, we played sports all of our lives. of Today's day's year. No one is a champion anymore. Today starts the grind, the offseason begins, and the new season starts here in in three months, four months when preseason gets here.
00:04:15
mjudd09
Yep.
00:04:20
Cody Atkinson
So it's all about 2026 to 2027 now.
00:04:24
mjudd09
Yeah, man. Listen, that that's where everybody puts in their hard work. As soon as you hit offseason, that's season number two without a reason, really season number two, because that's the season against yourself. how are you to get into the gym? how are you going to mentally prepare for the next season and just come back and do it even better than you did before?
New York Knicks Historic Victory and Basketball Discussion
00:04:42
Cody Atkinson
absolutely um uh next one something that you are a little bit more versed in the nba uh finals also wrapped up this week uh the new york knicks a little a little close to home for you uh ends a 50 plus year drought um and wins the nba finals the city of new york destroyed absolutely destroyed
00:05:00
mjudd09
Absolutely. That's why I'm in Jersey. You did like.
00:05:06
Cody Atkinson
uh what's your thoughts man on the new york knicks
00:05:08
mjudd09
Well, I mean, let's think about it. You know, you talk about people looking at it going, oh, they're not going to make it 50 of just nothing. And then all of a sudden Dan Housen comes in, curses them, then I curses them. And then they went on this unbelievable street going after that. you know, to where you get to the championship. And it's just like, dude, came to the wire.
00:05:32
mjudd09
It came, it came to the wire and people were like, I don't know, I don't know.
00:05:32
Cody Atkinson
Every game. Every game.
00:05:38
mjudd09
Denhausen is like, ah, you know, and and at the end of it, they get the dub and it's all that hard work that pulled they they pulled off, you know, and and it to be honest, is remarkable, absolutely remarkable.
00:05:40
Cody Atkinson
Every game.
00:05:51
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:05:52
mjudd09
Congratulations to the New York Knicks.
00:05:54
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. I think, you know, all three of us that have been on the pod have mentioned that we're not big basketball guys. Basketball, and in in terms of what we grew up in, is not the same sport that's played nowadays. But it's very much like i watched a few of these games and you can tell that the finals almost felt like that old school style like it is
00:06:12
mjudd09
Yes, absolutely.
00:06:13
Cody Atkinson
that yeah that back and forth, back and forth, going down to the wire. It's, you know, who's going to win out on the game of strategy through it all. It isn't load management. It isn't, you know, it isn't nothing but three pointers. It's legitimate, like hard nose basketball. So like definitely an appreciation there for some old school style of basketball. cause you don't see, you don't see it as much anymore where like where when we grew up, it was definitely like, you know, the little guys still had a chance to play and instead of an eight foot tall giant and when be running around here.
00:06:42
mjudd09
Something i was thinking about, hold on. Jalen Bronson is join
00:06:47
Cody Atkinson
What
00:06:51
mjudd09
he's joining a legendary list of basketball players. Did you did you hear about this?
00:06:56
Cody Atkinson
what' you got?
00:06:57
mjudd09
so So not only was he NCAA champion, now we talk about you know we it m b champion, champion, NBA MVP,
00:07:07
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:07:10
Cody Atkinson
Right?
00:07:11
mjudd09
He's joining the likes of Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, all these guys. Dude, phenomenal to be able to be a great company to be a part of.
00:07:18
Cody Atkinson
some good company to be a part of.
00:07:22
mjudd09
you know who didn't do that?
00:07:22
Cody Atkinson
Like you're talking about, you're talking Mount Rushmore, you know, like names in the world of basketball.
00:07:25
mjudd09
And lip
00:07:26
Cody Atkinson
LeBron
00:07:27
mjudd09
and we're talking a list that is missing one name on that one. LeBron James.
00:07:35
Cody Atkinson
James. Well, he didn't call he didn't play in college, so he,
00:07:36
mjudd09
So... Hey, we're going to talk about it. going to talk about it. to talk about it.
00:07:41
Cody Atkinson
but you, you, yeah.
00:07:41
mjudd09
It's a list that he is coveted with greatness, and you know I'm interested to see what he does moving forward in his career.
00:07:45
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:07:49
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. You did touch on it. with you know We are the WWE guys for this pod, right? You touched on Dan Housen, right?
00:07:55
mjudd09
Yes. Yes.
00:07:56
Cody Atkinson
um And this is something that I've been getting Cody up to date on the last couple of weeks, which is like gidty handy giving him the 411 on Dan Housen.
00:08:00
mjudd09
s
00:08:03
Cody Atkinson
And it's hilarious. of Obviously, the bit, right? You and I, we've we've seen the bit for the last, what, six months now in WWE, but it's co it's gone mainstream with him popping up on first take with stephen a smith
00:08:11
mjudd09
Mm hmm.
00:08:14
mjudd09
Yes.
00:08:16
Cody Atkinson
he's shown up to Knicks games. He's doing appearances. um I don't think Cody bought in until last week when I told him that someone on the Carolina hurricane side of it, Hey, Dan housing to curse Vegas. And they showed it and Vegas then lost three straight games and lost the Stanley cup finals.
00:08:33
Cody Atkinson
So I want to pose the same question to you that Cody and I talked about last week is paying Dan housing to curse your opponent worth it. So you won the championship.
00:08:44
mjudd09
Hey, listen, better than better my opponent than me, dog. way I'll pay him jar of teeth every week if I add to just to make sure he's good. I got to make sure I give him some human monies as well, so...
00:08:54
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, yeah, the human monies. ah Cody and I talked last week about starting a GoFundMe so we can pay more to curse every Texas A&M opponent this season. So that way we can go win a national championship. And we're like, hey, the whatever whatever his his cameo price is, we got pay it.
00:09:10
Cody Atkinson
We got to pay it every week.
00:09:11
mjudd09
Oh, absolutely. Got it got to.
00:09:12
Cody Atkinson
Every single week.
00:09:12
mjudd09
Make sure you send a jersey in here with them, too.
00:09:13
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:09:16
mjudd09
God. I think...
00:09:18
Cody Atkinson
So good, man. Yeah. um I love Dan Housel, man. He's so good. He's not going to pop up on our top 10 list, but he deservedly to be up there high. Oh, you have a reaction. you know We'll hold that for later. We'll hold it for later.
00:09:31
Cody Atkinson
Maybe Dan Housen pops up. um Next thing I got for you is something that you're a little more well-versed
Men's College World Series Update
00:09:37
Cody Atkinson
in here. The Men's College World Series started, obviously the the bracket has gone on for a couple weeks now, but they're in Omaha this week. The game started over the weekend.
00:09:47
Cody Atkinson
um Give you an update on kind of where things sits all miss first team out this weekend And then Alabama gets eliminated today from Texas. Texas will play the winner or the loser, sorry, of Oklahoma and Georgia.
00:10:01
Cody Atkinson
And then West Virginia, if you listen to the pod last week, it's a team that I chose this as my wagon team. Like, I don't think they're going to win it, but man, the vibes are immaculate following West Virginia. They will play the, they're in the elimination game tomorrow against Troy.
00:10:12
mjudd09
Yeah.
00:10:17
Cody Atkinson
And if they win that, they play North Carolina for a chance to move on in the bracket.
00:10:22
mjudd09
For sure.
00:10:22
Cody Atkinson
um So obviously I'm going to speak for Cody here. This is where Cody would say that North Carolina is the the dog to watch in this one. um So i don't think so, but you know, let's have some fun with it. You know, what, what's your, what's your vibes currently with the, with the college world series?
00:10:39
mjudd09
Yeah. mean, right now, when I, when I look at the game, North Carolina has always been a solid team to get behind every year. um When I look at Oklahoma, again, another team that is just usually a really, really good program, but don't sleep on Georgia. Georgia also phenomenal. What they won seven with,
00:10:59
mjudd09
seven and one right now, I think it is going into this game. Um, for me, Georgia, Texas, just baseball, baseball central.
00:11:11
mjudd09
So like you're getting top tier talent every single time.
00:11:11
Cody Atkinson
Sure.
00:11:14
mjudd09
So it is a doggy dog world when it comes to that, no pun intended. Um, when you look at West Virginia Troy, again, same thing. Um, my money right now is when I look at West Virginia Troy, I got West Virginia on that one for me, uh, North Carolina,
00:11:29
mjudd09
um respectfully, I would have to take North Carolina over West Virginia, ah Georgia, Texas. I love you, but the Bulldogs for me. And then he said, piece he said, ah, get him out of here.
00:11:39
Cody Atkinson
It's not my Texas school, so no love lost there for me. ah put Horns down, horns down.
00:11:45
mjudd09
ah And then when it comes to Georgia-Oklahoma, that's the one I, that's the matchup that I want to see. ah You know, it's going to come down to who shows up that day for me and my opinion of that. But I hopefully have Georgia edging them out on the back end with an opportunity to to take that that, take that side.
00:12:03
Cody Atkinson
So you're looking at a Georgia-North Carolina world Series?
00:12:06
mjudd09
That's what I want.
00:12:07
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, I mean...
00:12:07
mjudd09
Hopefully. Hopefully.
00:12:09
Cody Atkinson
what where do you where do you Where does your heart tell you on the winner of that?
00:12:14
mjudd09
North Carolina. North Carolina. I mean, listen, dude Like, at the end of the day like, North Carolina is just, like, to me, with these guys as leftover, like, North Carolina is ah is it's just a monster of a school to play against. um But I think North Carolina takes it.
00:12:33
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, that's fair. ah Regardless, been some damn good baseball being played up there up there in Nebraska. So, i mean, the World Series will start on Sunday night next week with a three-game series.
00:12:45
mjudd09
and that
00:12:45
Cody Atkinson
Obviously, best you know everyone whoever gets that second win. um i think no matter what, we're going to get one hell of a World Series, whether it is a mixture of North Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, maybe even a West Virginia, if they can if they can get some momentum.
00:12:53
mjudd09
Yes.
00:13:00
Cody Atkinson
Obviously, they've got to come out of the loser bracket now, but you know back against the wall, sometimes guys play better with their backs against the wall.
00:13:00
mjudd09
For sure.
00:13:07
Cody Atkinson
so
00:13:08
mjudd09
Yeah.
00:13:08
Cody Atkinson
We'll see. i can't I can't contest you when it comes to the North Carolina pick. i think it's I think it's a solid pick. so i Anything that doesn't allow Texas to win a national championship, I'm i'm good with it.
00:13:19
mjudd09
You know, I'm ah i'm right there with you. If my brother don't like him, don't like him.
00:13:24
Cody Atkinson
else And Johnny the Kid is the leading insider on that. so
00:13:30
mjudd09
Yes, sir.
00:13:32
Cody Atkinson
um Very good, man. Yeah, I mean, it's exciting. You and I watched the World Series final a couple years ago, and it's just must-see whenever it comes around for those guys.
00:13:39
mjudd09
Oh, absolutely. Every time. is
00:13:41
Cody Atkinson
Cody talked about it last week.
00:13:41
mjudd09
Every time.
00:13:45
Cody Atkinson
We got to get to Omaha one year for this, and I'm so down if we can get to Omaha one year.
00:13:51
mjudd09
So hear me out. We may be able to go for the week and be able to watch not only cosmic baseball play, we may actually even see the World Series back-to-back weeks.
00:14:03
Cody Atkinson
Like next year.
00:14:04
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:14:05
Cody Atkinson
Nice.
00:14:05
mjudd09
Because they just left. They literally left about a week ago, now they're playing over there right now.
00:14:10
Cody Atkinson
Nice. Yeah. If we have that opportunity to go out there next year, you don't have to twist my arm.
00:14:15
mjudd09
For sure.
00:14:15
Cody Atkinson
technique um ah Next thing I got three, man, the World Cup.
US National Team World Cup Victory
00:14:22
Cody Atkinson
The World Cup started this week. Obviously, we're not we're not huge soccer fans, but we are, as Cody and i have talked about, we are big national pride sports fans.
00:14:24
mjudd09
Yes.
00:14:31
Cody Atkinson
You know, we follow the the Olympics. You and I watch the Olympics at work all the time. ah Obviously, we go from that to the World Baseball Classic this year and then into now the World Cup. um i don't I don't know if you caught the at least some bit of the the USA game on Friday, but a dominant 4-1 win against Paraguay on Friday to kick off the World Cup.
00:14:40
mjudd09
Yep.
00:14:51
mjudd09
Yeah, I mean, it was funny because my brother's girlfriend is is Colombian, so she was like, I need Colombia to win. and I said, they're going to lose. And then she was like, well, I just need, and she started listing all these countries.
00:14:58
Cody Atkinson
Yep.
00:15:01
mjudd09
I was like, i just need U.S. to beat Paraguay. She was like, oh, that's going to tough. I said, no, we're going to mop them. It's fine. Let's do it. Let's do it.
00:15:10
Cody Atkinson
To finish out their group stage, they play again on this coming Friday against Australia, and then the following Thursday against Turkey.
00:15:15
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:15:17
Cody Atkinson
um I think the from everything I was reading going into this, the the hardest match in there was going to be against Australia. There's a good chance that we beat Turkey pretty handedly. So we can beat all Shredder, there's a good chance that we're the number one seed coming out of the group this group stage, which gets us out of that initial kind of play tournament that they have to cut the field down. So that's huge.
00:15:40
Cody Atkinson
i was Everyone online is freaking out because the way that the the group stages are set up, apparently the U.S. can play on the 4th of July. You ready for this?
00:15:50
mjudd09
Oh man.
00:15:53
Cody Atkinson
against Against England.
00:15:59
mjudd09
Hey, it writes itself.
00:16:01
Cody Atkinson
And it's in Houston, of all places, too.
00:16:03
mjudd09
I think I did this on purpose. and They did it on purpose.
00:16:06
Cody Atkinson
So they have to win their group stage, and then they have to play they had to win their first like knockout game and win that to get to it.
00:16:11
mjudd09
Yes.
00:16:12
Cody Atkinson
So their quarterfinal game would be against England on the 4th of July, if if everyone wins the way that they should.
00:16:17
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:16:21
mjudd09
Dude, it writes itself. You can't even... There's no way you can make this up. It has to happen. It has to happen.
00:16:28
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, i mean if it and it goes down that way, you shut down everything. like Everyone needs to be off. like It needs to be everyone is in a sports bar.
00:16:36
mjudd09
Make it a national holiday. It's a holiday for the day.
00:16:38
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, ever like everyone. I'm calling it. Cough, cough.
00:16:41
mjudd09
yeah
00:16:41
Cody Atkinson
I'm saying it. if
00:16:43
mjudd09
So... This game, though.
00:16:47
Cody Atkinson
ah Sorry, i know i got I know I just got this new job, but like hey, ain't going to be here today.
00:16:53
mjudd09
Me, I'm here for moral support. Gotta go.
00:16:58
Cody Atkinson
Hey, he's sick. I got go take care of him. ah But yeah, I mean, honestly, i we're not following this super closely here on the pod, but obviously we will follow the U.S.
00:17:08
Cody Atkinson
for as long as they're in here. And then obviously we'll watch, you know, whether or not the U.S.
00:17:11
mjudd09
Yeah.
00:17:12
Cody Atkinson
is in, we'll probably all end up watching the the World Cup final because it's must-see TV every four years. i remember watching the final four years ago while we were at work because the final happened while we were at work.
00:17:22
mjudd09
Yes, I remember that.
00:17:22
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:17:23
mjudd09
Yep.
00:17:23
Cody Atkinson
So like that was an incredible game. Obviously, that was Argentina and France, I believe, when Argentina finally won, when Messi finally got his World Cup.
00:17:29
mjudd09
And yep.
00:17:32
Cody Atkinson
and So obviously, see it'll be it'll be big, um apparently, because this is the rumor that this is Messi and Ronaldo this last time in the World Cup.
00:17:32
mjudd09
Yep.
00:17:40
Cody Atkinson
So obviously, a lot of people paying attention to Portugal and then Argentina for those two guys as they as they take their final bow out of the World Cup.
00:17:46
mjudd09
Yeah.
00:17:49
Cody Atkinson
so um But selfishly, hope it's the U.S. that wins it all.
00:17:54
mjudd09
I agree. I agree.
WWE King and Queen of the Ring Tournaments Preview
00:17:57
Cody Atkinson
So, um Judd, I know you listened to the podcast. I know you've been on it quite a few times. This is usually where we pivot to Cody and I's wrap-up.
00:18:02
mjudd09
Yep.
00:18:06
Cody Atkinson
So instead of hogging the rundown with our teams, we do wrap-up for our teams. um We're not going to do that this week. We're going to do a WWE wrap-up. You game?
00:18:17
mjudd09
I'm down. We got it. Let's talk about it. Perfect.
00:18:20
Cody Atkinson
All right, so I'm going to let you go because, you know, we touched on a lot of topics that are not your thing, so I'm going to let you riff here. um The big topic right now in WWE is king and queen of the ring tournaments.
00:18:31
mjudd09
blue ring
00:18:33
Cody Atkinson
I'll set the stage, and then I'm going to let you go here. Tonight, this week, we have the the the semifinals. No, the final matchups as they go into the POE. um So you have Jay Yee Uso versus the young OG Javon Evans.
00:18:49
mjudd09
That boy bouncy.
00:18:50
Cody Atkinson
And then boy Bouncy. And then on the other side, Oba the Ruler Femi versus Dirty Don Mysterio.
00:19:00
mjudd09
Yes, sir.
00:19:00
Cody Atkinson
and And then on the women's side of things, you have Liv Morgan versus Charlotte Flair.
00:19:06
mjudd09
Let's do it.
00:19:07
Cody Atkinson
And on the other side of that, eo Sky versus Raquel Rodriguez. So um the floor is yours, man. Talk to me about the king and queen ring of the tournaments.
00:19:18
mjudd09
right, let's start off with the queen of the ring first. You know, they say ladies first. ah For starters, listen, watching these women go, dude, they can literally main event whatever what they want at this point because these women are absolutely tearing it up. You know, to watch the matchup of, you know, Morgan going against Becky Lynch, Alexa Bliss, Chelsea Green. First off, shout out to Chelsea Green. She's absolutely tearing it up right now. You know, Alexa Bliss being around and we love watching her come out of here every single day. But Liv Morgan definitely was the one that just really truly shined in that matchup. So she had definitely deserves being there with Ric Flair's, you know,
00:19:56
mjudd09
spawn, if you would, ah one in you know, Flair. Now, listen, Flair is not the one that we're going to sit there and just say, hey, we're going think at the end of it because Morgan's got a lot to go through when it comes to, you know, Charlotte. Charlotte literally at this point right now, at this stage of her career, is is a living legend, all from the women's side of it, by herself already. She won first Ballot Hall of Famer from her side, and that has nothing to do with her dad. That's literally everything that she's won ever since. Granted, she had a lot more opportunities, but hey, we don't talk about it.
00:20:28
mjudd09
I can tell you right now, this Liv Morgan that we're seeing is phenomenal, especially because she says she won it all. And then I'm like, going back to it going, But the Knicks also wanted it all day. They got that little help from Dan Housen. Will she?
00:20:43
Cody Atkinson
Maybe.
00:20:43
mjudd09
Well, who knows? We'll see. Well, all I know is watching Liv Morgan in Charlotte is going to be a banger. On the opposite side of it, EO Sky in this.
00:20:56
mjudd09
Now Rodriguez is a powerhouse on her own. And that's a whole lot of women, a whole lot of women.
00:20:59
Cody Atkinson
Big mommy cool.
00:21:01
mjudd09
But I guarantee you, you know, my money's on Io. She's, the you know, she's eel Sky for a reason. That girl, she flies. And that matchup is going to be ah a hard hitter as well whenever that happens.
00:21:13
mjudd09
Now, I will say, moving forward, is I think Io is going to be on one side for sure. That's just me. That's my opinion on that one. On the opposite side, haaaah.
00:21:27
mjudd09
oh because when it comes time to show up charlotte shows up but at the same time this is a different live morgan than we've seen in the past so for me it's it's hard it's toss-up but it also again goes to like everything else we talk about how things tend to write themselves it just makes sense for it to be live it makes sense for it to be live um for her to to be queen of the ring um on top of being the women's champion currently, and then go after the other belt. Like who doesn't want to see live Morgan, Rhea Ripley kind of stand off. Right.
00:22:05
mjudd09
I would love to see it just to watch Rhea mop the floor her again, but we don't talk about that.
00:22:12
Cody Atkinson
Well, news from SmackDown on Friday is that Rhea's hurt. Quote, unquote. We haven't seen her. So they forgived it it could be a work.
00:22:18
mjudd09
You know, I'm interested to see how this works.
00:22:22
Cody Atkinson
It could be a work.
00:22:22
mjudd09
It could be.
00:22:23
Cody Atkinson
um I think the storyline is interesting, right? that Obviously, I think i agree with you 100%. Liv has a rocket on her back, deservedly so.
00:22:33
mjudd09
Yes, yes.
00:22:34
Cody Atkinson
the raw The Raw women's... division
00:22:39
Cody Atkinson
is in shambles because you can't have Raquel in there against Liv.
00:22:43
mjudd09
Correct.
00:22:44
Cody Atkinson
You can't have Roxanne in there and all these other names, right?
00:22:44
mjudd09
Nope. Peace.
00:22:48
Cody Atkinson
You know, and Vakira's out her, like or on vacation, deservedly so.
00:22:51
mjudd09
Yep.
00:22:53
Cody Atkinson
She had a great year last year. We talked about it.
00:22:54
mjudd09
For sure, for sure.
00:22:55
Cody Atkinson
os So like the the Raw women's main card is non-existent. So Liv doesn't have a storyline there.
00:23:03
mjudd09
Correct.
00:23:04
Cody Atkinson
If they can build this storyline... If Rhea isn't hurt and Rhea is available when it comes to SummerSlam, which is fine, that's still two and like two months away. If she can be healthy by SummerSlam, the storyline is there.
00:23:13
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:23:17
Cody Atkinson
Rhea and Liv have history, not just from Judgment Day, but like all their back and forth with the women's title on Raw.
00:23:22
mjudd09
Yes.
00:23:23
Cody Atkinson
like They have the storyline there. Who doesn't like the idea of a two-belt situation? We haven't seen it since Becky two-belt.
00:23:31
mjudd09
Becky, two belts.
00:23:32
Cody Atkinson
Becky Two Bells, if there's someone that you put it on, Liv isn't the worst choice to do it.
00:23:38
mjudd09
This is true.
00:23:40
Cody Atkinson
So do do I think that Triple H has the gall to pull that off?
00:23:40
mjudd09
This is true.
00:23:43
Cody Atkinson
No, I don't think so. I don't think he'll pull that trigger. But there's a good enough story there that main events may be a night one summer cycle.
00:23:51
mjudd09
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if he has the cojones to do it and it's not in Stephanie McMahon's purse, then sure, let's go for it.
00:23:59
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, I do.
00:24:00
mjudd09
I'm so dumb.
00:24:00
Cody Atkinson
I do think the the EO and Raquel match is really interesting because you and I, we talked about it for, I feel like the last year at this point, right? The downfall of the Judgment Day has been written for so long, right?
00:24:13
Cody Atkinson
Do you, do you pull the trigger as much as we love EO?
00:24:13
mjudd09
Yes.
00:24:17
Cody Atkinson
Do you pull the trigger and have Raquel win so she has to fight Liv at, at, at King of the Ring or whatever?
00:24:23
mjudd09
At Queen the Ring? No, I don't think you do. I think that that storyline has to remain separate. I don't think you bring that into this. I think at this point, it's everyone for itself. And you can't hurt EO by, you know, putting Raquel in there.
00:24:40
mjudd09
You can't do that. especially when we just had an emotional send off with Asuka and the other partner. You can't. So like at this point, the fan base is behind Io in this round.
00:24:55
Cody Atkinson
Sure. Yeah. Sure.
00:24:57
mjudd09
Raquel is just not performatively consistent enough in that round two to wield the belt. That's just why they haven't put on it like We've seen it time and time again, tag team titles, but like I don't believe you. you know i believe your partners.
00:25:10
mjudd09
Not you. Like if you if you ask me the question of if Raquel or let's say Roxanne, I would say Roxanne over Raquel. Roxanne is a lot more believable, especially in that realm of having births life.
00:25:25
mjudd09
Absolutely. I'm all about it.
00:25:27
Cody Atkinson
Well, I think with that one, too, they set it up, right, there like that Finn brought Roxanne in when Liv was out.
00:25:27
mjudd09
Let's do it.
00:25:34
Cody Atkinson
There's been these side glances at Dom, you know, potentially it's wedging between Liv and Dom and all these things.
00:25:37
mjudd09
Yes.
00:25:41
Cody Atkinson
So, like, there's been those subtle hints over the last, what, three four months now yeah so like you have that storyline in there so i i agree with you if roxanne was in there then maybe that's where can start to spend that hey this is the end of judgment day because they're gonna split from the from the inside at this point so i i do think there's some interesting storylines here i think we're both on the page like raquel is a powerhouse and i can't wait for her to finally get that main event push because and i can't wait for i i think that rockque is a great heel, I can't wait for her to go face.
00:25:45
mjudd09
three or four months. yeah
00:25:53
mjudd09
Yes.
00:25:56
mjudd09
Yes.
00:25:59
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:26:16
mjudd09
Yeah, I mean, I agree, but I think that you you do the same thing to do right now, put the belts on Liv, just to have Roxanne say, uh-uh.
00:26:26
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:26:27
mjudd09
You know, so, like, I i can see it. I can see it.
00:26:29
Cody Atkinson
And I can see that Roxanne live, what, Crown Jewel in October.
00:26:35
mjudd09
Yes.
00:26:36
Cody Atkinson
i think that would be a great time because that's off of the SummerSlam. You get past, like, Wrestlepalooza in September.
00:26:40
mjudd09
Oh, my God, yes.
00:26:42
Cody Atkinson
So you get to what you get to ch Crown Jewel in October, and I think that's when you can really fire that engine of, like, all right, Roxanne versus Liv.
00:26:42
mjudd09
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:50
Cody Atkinson
You know, Finn shows up, Dom's in play. Yeah. you know you can get you know if they're able to i know they're our truth is trying to do this like the the reunion of of judgment day on smackdown right it's like you could get a damien you can get a rhea that interferes with with this match and you can almost get like the rival factions like version 1.0 versus version 2.0 of judgment day kind of at play there
00:26:59
mjudd09
and quick
00:27:13
mjudd09
That'd be great. That'd be great. Now let's say we went to the men's side of it. Cause this is where things get a little interesting.
00:27:17
Cody Atkinson
yeah
WWE Men's Tournament Matchup Analysis
00:27:20
mjudd09
Right? So we talk about our favorites in, in either in almost every match, right?
00:27:20
Cody Atkinson
yeah
00:27:27
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Great
00:27:27
mjudd09
Every match was just a banger all in his itself. um I think let's start off with the Javon Evans one. When Javon Evans won against Seth Rollins and Tala Tonga and Ricky saints, you know, I'm going honest.
00:27:40
mjudd09
i have my money on saints. Yeah. You know, i have money on Ricky Saints. um But when Javon pulled off the dub and I said, you know, I'm not mad at it. If Seth would have won, i would have said, OK, it's a little too cliche for me. But at the same time, you you got these young guys just going, you know, and and they're the favorites, you know, right now, um especially with Javon being, you know, the most, if I'm not mistaken, and you could agree or disagree with me on this one, but I'm pretty sure you'll agree. He's probably the most relatable superstar that's there right now.
00:28:13
mjudd09
You know, he's young, sure. But like, as far as his promos, his skills in the ring, like he is the most relatable person to the fan base and the fans see it.
00:28:20
Cody Atkinson
Yep. E. Mm-hmm.
00:28:22
mjudd09
He's very genuine. They love him. On the opposite end of him, you got Jey Uso. Main event, the yeet man, Jey Uso himself. um Now, this matchup was interesting because Jey, LA Knight, they got their own beef.
00:28:40
mjudd09
Finn Balor also has his beef with them. But for a moment, they all collectively said, we got to get Royce Keys out of here because Royce Keys is a powerhouse.
00:28:50
mjudd09
And it was that moment that we saw a little nod to Roman Reigns as they did the three man power bomb that the shield used to do. But he, Jay was the one who was the realm of Roman Reigns.
00:28:58
Cody Atkinson
shield bomb yeah
00:29:02
mjudd09
And to me, I said, oh, OK, I see where he's trying to be right next to Roman. As his brother would say, stop being like Roman, be like Jay. And as far as J and Javon go, going be honest.
00:29:16
mjudd09
This one's a toss up is a little harder to say because although I want J to win, but I also really want Javon to win. That's just me being straight up with that one. The other interesting one, Dominic Mysterio.
00:29:33
Cody Atkinson
and Obafemi. And
00:29:34
mjudd09
And Oba Femi.
00:29:37
Cody Atkinson
and you want and you want to talk about two completely different styles.
00:29:37
mjudd09
fanmy
00:29:42
Cody Atkinson
Like obviously Dom is like, he dirty Eddie Guerrero tactics, sorry but he's, that he is that, he is that Lucha Libre kind of not heavyweight, but would be heavyweight in a, in a, in a Lucha Libre sense.
00:29:45
mjudd09
Lucha Libre. Yes.
00:29:55
Cody Atkinson
Right. Because you don't get like the bigger guys, but like he,
00:29:56
mjudd09
I can see that. Yeah. it More like heavy, light heavy. Yeah.
00:29:59
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, light heavyweight for lightheadway for the current roster, but if he was in Mexico, he would be a heavyweight in comparison to to some of those guys, right?
00:30:05
mjudd09
Potentially. Some big dudes.
00:30:07
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, so I mean, but like, you want to talk about like, him going against Oba?
00:30:07
mjudd09
For sure. Yeah.
00:30:12
Cody Atkinson
Now, I think from a storytelling perspective, and you and I were here for the stories, this match isn't going to be clean on either side, because the storyline that's being weaved right now, or woven, is Oba is not going to win this match from a storytelling perspective.
00:30:28
Cody Atkinson
Because hit the music, the Beast Incarnate comes out, interferes with this match, hits him with of a couple F5s, Dom hits him with the Frog Splash, one, two, three, Dom goes on.
00:30:39
Cody Atkinson
Because we're setting up the SummerSlam storyline of retiring Brock Lesnar. And the only way to get there is that Oba can't win King of the Ring.
00:30:48
mjudd09
I don't, I don't, I disagree. I think he could think about it it again. You, you, you brought up something before about it being and like this part writes itself, just like in other thing, Oba saying, I'm the ruler, I'm the king. He goes in, he wins king of the ring. Now he does something that somebody ah that other people have not done and goes twice that night.
00:31:10
mjudd09
Now you say I am the king of the ring. I want Brock, but I also go after, say, a Roman reigns, right? So now he goes, he play he fights Brock, Brock loses, send off home, and then he goes and he loses to Roman Reigns as the OTC, Tribal Chief, right?
00:31:29
mjudd09
So we we're not talking about just the storyline that's between him and you know Brock in this scenario.
00:31:29
Cody Atkinson
Sure.
00:31:36
mjudd09
i think we're talking about the title of who is the true ruler of WWE, who's the king of w wwe if you would.
Brock Lesnar's Potential Interference in WWE
00:31:42
mjudd09
um And I think that that part itself alone is enticing to the world.
00:31:48
Cody Atkinson
Sure. i think there's I think there's enough storytelling on both sides of it, right?
00:31:52
mjudd09
Yeah.
00:31:52
Cody Atkinson
whether Whether it is...
00:31:53
mjudd09
Dominant king of the luchadors.
00:31:55
Cody Atkinson
Correct. kilo luriors
00:31:57
mjudd09
Yeah.
00:31:57
Cody Atkinson
There's an interesting interesting side there of, like, does Brock's music hit? Does he come out Does he interfere? Does he not show up? And it's the music hits and Paul Hammond comes out. Enough of a distraction for Dom to do something.
00:32:09
Cody Atkinson
Like, there's so many different layers there that, like regardless, we have to get to August and SummerSlam of... Oba retiring Brock Lesnar?
00:32:20
mjudd09
Does Liv Morgan hire Danhausen
00:32:27
Cody Atkinson
To curse Oba?
00:32:28
mjudd09
to curse Oba?
00:32:30
Cody Atkinson
See, i think what I think if you're going to do the curse within that, I think you get...
00:32:35
mjudd09
Hey.
00:32:36
Cody Atkinson
i think you get First off, Dan Housen is so separate from all these storylines right now. But if he can...
00:32:43
mjudd09
But he's on the same show as Liv.
00:32:45
Cody Atkinson
but I mean, he popped up on both shows. So like that's not a fair that's not a fair assessment.
00:32:48
mjudd09
Just saying.
00:32:50
Cody Atkinson
But i'm down I'm down for whatever they want to do with Dan Housen because...
00:32:50
mjudd09
Just saying. Hey, he's not even the same world as the Knicks. But hey, here we are.
00:32:55
Cody Atkinson
yeah Correct.
00:32:56
mjudd09
Here we are. Yeah,
00:32:57
Cody Atkinson
um if i had If I had to put predictions out there for the four matches, and we as we're recording, Raw's over.
00:33:02
mjudd09
yeah. yeah
00:33:04
Cody Atkinson
So at least two of these matches are done. You and I have not watched Raw, so we don't know what's happened this week.
00:33:08
mjudd09
Nope. Not a clue.
00:33:09
Cody Atkinson
um My predictions for the four matches is Javon over Jay.
00:33:12
mjudd09
Okay.
00:33:16
mjudd09
Javon over Jay.
00:33:16
Cody Atkinson
Jay's not getting the push right now It's not his time.
00:33:16
mjudd09
Got it.
00:33:19
Cody Atkinson
And there's things that are going on in our next topic that we'll talk about.
00:33:20
mjudd09
I agree. Okay.
00:33:23
Cody Atkinson
And then i have Dom beating Oba because i i I truly believe in the story that I've written that... Brock's music hits. He comes out, interferes with the match, and sets up the the retirement match. You get the Steiner math. One plus one means zero. You're out. Brock Lesnar being an idiot at the end of that match. but So that's my prediction there. So you you set up at King of the Ring. You have Javon versus Dom.
00:33:50
Cody Atkinson
And then on the women's side, I have Liv beating Charlotte.
00:33:52
mjudd09
Peace.
00:33:54
Cody Atkinson
I'm with you. The Rocket is on the back of Liv Morgan right now. Charlotte at this point in her career is putting over the next generation. We've seen that. We cheated it with Tiffy last year. This is a great chance for her to do it with live. This is her first time being in singles competition. Since her and Alexa kind of sort of split, but not really split kind of thing from tag team. um But this is her putting live over and this next generation.
00:34:17
Cody Atkinson
And then on the other side, EO versus Raquel. I'm with you. It's not time for the judgment day storyline. so i'm a go with eo
00:34:26
mjudd09
Yep. just
00:34:26
Cody Atkinson
Liv at King of the Ring here in a couple weeks. Although I would love for the Raquel versus Liv match because I think it would be a banger of a match if it happened. When it happens.
00:34:36
mjudd09
Better for sure.
00:34:36
Cody Atkinson
Because it will happen. um so those are my predictions there. Obviously you won't be back on the pod by the time the King of the Ring happens. The next time you're going to be pod is for SummerSland.
00:34:45
mjudd09
or some slam. Well, my predictions, because I got these legendary predictions on this one as well.
00:34:46
Cody Atkinson
SummerSland predictions.
00:34:50
mjudd09
I'm with you with Io for sure versus Morgan with Morgan getting the dub in that round. I am with you on Javon Evans as well.
00:35:00
mjudd09
um But I'm on the opposite end with Ova Femi ah with the rocket that's on his back um to those who are, you know, fanatics at WWE in the product.
00:35:11
mjudd09
And for those who don't know, ah Javon Evans and Femi go back to NXT and is this would be a rematch for those two because Javon Evans came up just shy taking that from him back down to NXT but twice correct and then even then it was with the aid of um
00:35:22
Cody Atkinson
Not once, but twice.
00:35:29
Cody Atkinson
Reiki Saints.
00:35:29
mjudd09
its wick Ricky St. Tom won in, but you also had Trick Willie in another in another instance in that realm.
00:35:34
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, I've got a lot tricks.
00:35:36
mjudd09
But Javon and Femi, this would be running it back again if they were to to go that route, to which, to me, to be honest, either one can go up. But in that realm, I think at that point,
00:35:48
mjudd09
I would then agree with you that potentially you do see a Brock at that point where where everything's on a line and you do see Evans coming out as king of the ring potentially. So that's where I'm at with that part.
00:36:03
mjudd09
We'll see what happens, though. I'm excited. that No matter who wins, I'm excited for it.
00:36:07
Cody Atkinson
my My prediction for the actual Keely, because you just gave yours, um I'm going Liv and Dom, come out as king and queen of the ring. Yeah.
00:36:16
mjudd09
spicy take, spicy take.
00:36:17
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. And I'm down for the Liv versus Rhea matchup at SummerSlam.
00:36:23
mjudd09
I can't disagree.
00:36:23
Cody Atkinson
And
00:36:25
mjudd09
Two monster heels. I can't. I can see it.
00:36:27
Cody Atkinson
what a story it is, right? That like they come back they come back with...
00:36:28
mjudd09
In the world, yeah. There's a world where that happens.
00:36:31
Cody Atkinson
They both come in on Raw with the crowns on. Dom's got the AAA on him. Liv comes in with the WWE w strap on her. And imagine a world where Dom goes after Cody Rhodes at SummerSlam.
00:36:45
Cody Atkinson
And I think Cody drops the belt to Dom.
00:36:49
mjudd09
Oh, I don't see it I just can't. I
00:36:55
Cody Atkinson
ah Here's one.
00:36:55
mjudd09
i see Grande Americano before him, dude. I can't.
00:36:57
Cody Atkinson
here let me Let me give you the long-form storytelling. Triple H loves the long-form storytelling, okay?
00:37:01
mjudd09
Yes. Okay.
00:37:02
Cody Atkinson
Who who would just moved to SmackDown two weeks ago?
00:37:05
mjudd09
Yes. Yes. I got that.
00:37:07
Cody Atkinson
Finn Balor.
00:37:07
mjudd09
Yes. yes
00:37:08
Cody Atkinson
So if if if Dom goes in and beats Cody at SummerSlam, where would Dom then go?
00:37:19
mjudd09
Smackdown.
00:37:20
Cody Atkinson
So what do you set up for Crown Jewel in October?
00:37:25
mjudd09
Yes, I get that. It's...
00:37:27
Cody Atkinson
You get the Demon Finn Balor again versus Dirty Don Mysterio for the undisputed WWE w Championship.
00:37:41
Cody Atkinson
See, you hate it because you can see it now.
00:37:43
mjudd09
Yes, yes, I can. i can see the...
00:37:46
Cody Atkinson
And you can do some sort you can do some sort of stipulation because it's the third time they fought. You can do some sort of stipulation on there.
00:37:51
mjudd09
I see Bullet Club 2.0 coming into that point with Finn Balor.
00:37:53
Cody Atkinson
Correct.
00:37:56
mjudd09
You got Shinsuke Nakamura. You got Evil.NXC would come up.
00:37:59
Cody Atkinson
you can get da you can you can get damian in there
00:38:01
mjudd09
You got TamaTanga coming in because they were all in New Japan Pro Wrestling they together.
00:38:05
Cody Atkinson
yeah
00:38:07
mjudd09
I can see a lot of ways that could go that he has backup on SmackDown where he didn't have it on Raw.
00:38:11
Cody Atkinson
especially if the Especially if the MFTs kind of dissolve with the bloodline conversation.
00:38:14
mjudd09
Oh, yeah. and Yeah. God, hate when you're like...
00:38:18
Cody Atkinson
And that frees up Cody to start doing heelish things in the future. Maybe get him ready for Mania. Let him do Cody Lander that we've been talking about for what feels like forever.
00:38:27
mjudd09
Oh, you want that so bad.
00:38:29
Cody Atkinson
music um
00:38:31
mjudd09
that
00:38:32
Cody Atkinson
ah And then on the lift side, a potential two-melt situation with lift.
00:38:38
mjudd09
I think that'd be great for a character.
00:38:40
Cody Atkinson
Like her going on both shows, she's proven that she can do that.
00:38:40
mjudd09
i think that'd be great for a character.
00:38:43
Cody Atkinson
She did that on the WrestleMania build that she can do both shows.
00:38:45
mjudd09
Yep.
00:38:46
Cody Atkinson
Like I can see her with the, like walking in with the belt on her back, like full on heel mode.
00:38:46
mjudd09
Yep.
00:38:52
mjudd09
Yep.
00:38:52
Cody Atkinson
Like, especially if Rhea is hurt, that's not a bad way to to pass it off.
00:38:56
mjudd09
knock it out iga see her throwing her weight around telling him to hold her belts for her as she's coming to the ring
00:39:02
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:39:03
mjudd09
yeah
00:39:03
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:39:04
mjudd09
yeah yeah
00:39:04
Cody Atkinson
Raquel and Roxanne kind of boxing, like walking with them behind her. Yeah. There's lot of good storylines.
00:39:09
mjudd09
a
00:39:11
Cody Atkinson
But we got to move on.
00:39:12
mjudd09
hey man
00:39:12
Cody Atkinson
We got to move We got other topics here.
00:39:14
mjudd09
yeah
00:39:14
Cody Atkinson
um Bloodline reunion is the next topic. Roman Reigns back in the building tonight for the first time on Raw since they were said they've been back from the European tour.
Bloodline Dynamics and Family Reunion Speculations
00:39:25
Cody Atkinson
Obviously, we got it kind of a little bit of a hint last time we saw him in Tampa for Backlash. when he beat um Jacob and acknowledge me, all that stuff.
00:39:37
Cody Atkinson
But Solo and the MFTs were in the crowd as Roman walks out. You have a lot more experience with the bloodline than I do. Is the MFTs poised to join the bloodline?
00:39:46
mjudd09
Yes.
00:39:51
mjudd09
No, I don't think they are. I think what we tend to forget is that the MFTs as a whole are not necessarily directly related to Roman. So when look at it, the only person who's part the MFTs that is related to Roman directly by blood is solo.
00:40:00
Cody Atkinson
Sure.
00:40:07
mjudd09
The others are Tongan, not Samoan. So when you look at Jacob, who is Fatu, who is a cousin of the Usos, who is a cousin of, you know, Solo, who happens to be the brother of the Usos, um that whole thing, of the Romans probably trying to get at some point solo to join the bloodline but then the tongans would probably be me on their own um i think solo's the strongest one out of all of them anyway um to be able to get him over is going to be rough and i think he has to go through the same thing he did with jacob to prove a point to bring him over and that probably you will probably see another um you know simone death match as well with that you know
00:40:51
Cody Atkinson
bloodline rules and all Yeah.
00:40:52
mjudd09
Yeah, like i think you you you I think you even change it to a Samoan death match. Like to be honest, I think it's going to, all the rules go out the window.
00:40:58
Cody Atkinson
no
00:41:00
mjudd09
Like you have to have a different stipulation. You have to have something different in order for it to to feel bigger when it's the two heads going at it. um But I think that that's going to have to happen. I mean, we even see a little bit of a difference in Roman. and how he carries about how he's with the Usos. You know, I think the only one who truly is the a really good mouthpiece who hasn't been given an opportunity is just Jimmy.
00:41:25
Cody Atkinson
Sure.
00:41:26
mjudd09
But the others like any one of them can be the next in line. But I think that to your point to ask answer the question, i don't think the MFTs are as a whole will be moving over. i think solo at some point would. And then I think that ends your bloodline feud at that point.
00:41:45
mjudd09
It becomes more of a Samo and Tongan kind of deal. And i I don't think I don't even think we see. the MFTs together after that point, I think they end up disbanding um and it just becomes the bloodline and then that's who you have there as a family. I think that was a story that was supposed to be there from the beginning and they realized that now they're trying to correct it.
00:42:05
mjudd09
But, yeah.
00:42:05
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Do you think they're obviously Roman's going to hold this, the belt for, for a minute, right? So he goes on this revenge tour of the, the estranged Samoans that are not in line.
00:42:17
Cody Atkinson
Right. So we get through this storyline, maybe it is SummerSlam that you get Roman versus solo, right?
00:42:18
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:42:23
Cody Atkinson
Maybe, maybe you do it at crown jewel.
00:42:23
mjudd09
Yep.
00:42:25
Cody Atkinson
I don't know. We're not crown jewel, King of the ring.
00:42:26
mjudd09
Mm-hmm. Can't get around.
00:42:27
Cody Atkinson
Maybe you do get it.
00:42:28
mjudd09
Yep.
00:42:28
Cody Atkinson
Maybe you do get it there. Maybe it is a SummerSlam type of matchup. What's next? Cause like, you know Do you start sending the Usos back to tag titles? Do you send Solo and Jacob you know after mid-cards on Raw and SmackDown?
00:42:44
Cody Atkinson
Do you do the takeover that we saw last time? right Because we talked about it right there. Because of Roman with the titles that he had, both two times, you know the the combined and then ultimately splitting it for the Undisputed.
00:42:57
Cody Atkinson
he made the tag titles main event adjacent, which is where you got main event Jey Uso, right?
00:43:04
mjudd09
Yeah.
00:43:04
Cody Atkinson
Because he was there. Do you do, are going to run back that storyline or do we do something differently?
00:43:09
mjudd09
I think you do something different. I think you have an established right-hand man, a Roman, um and then i think you switched it up. I think the Usos don't go after the tag team goal.
00:43:20
mjudd09
I think the Usos are the ones that get the mid card titles um just because they're right there with Roman since day one. And I think you have, you know, it may not necessarily be Jacob and Solo.
00:43:33
mjudd09
It could be somebody else coming to the fray and Zalafatu, who Mabra's son, you know, potentially in the future.
00:43:37
Cody Atkinson
Zilfatsu, yeah.
00:43:41
mjudd09
How long down the road? We don't know. But any member of the bloodline,
00:43:44
Cody Atkinson
Soon. Soon, though, with if the rumors are true that he's in Orlando at the PC.
00:43:47
mjudd09
Yeah. And then reality is that any member of the bloodline could be a tag team person. Doesn't matter which brand that they're on. All he needs is exposure.
00:43:55
Cody Atkinson
Sure.
00:43:56
mjudd09
If he's on, if he ends up debuting on NXT, he can rightfully so just pop up. He doesn't have to be a part of any main thing, but just so happens to be in the background and the other two get the belts.
00:44:08
mjudd09
And now he's a part of that as a tag team champion with Jacob, as he did on the Indies.
00:44:11
Cody Atkinson
would you Would you do him as solo since they both have the the spike?
00:44:17
mjudd09
Well, there's a different variation for them. And I think that that point you have Solo come up with a different finisher um as that's an homage to Zilla's dad.
00:44:25
Cody Atkinson
Sure.
00:44:28
mjudd09
um And he himself said on a separate podcast at one point that he took the Samoan Spike and Roman range roman Reigns' is Superman Punch and came together with the Triple Z.
00:44:41
mjudd09
And he said, and and I quote, He literally went to his phone, typed in ZZZ, and the sleeping emoji came up and he said, oh yeah, it's with triple to put you to sleep. And I said, I'm dead.
00:44:51
mjudd09
So, I mean, there's different variations of the same move. I think Solo's no longer is his finisher.
00:44:55
Cody Atkinson
Sure. OK, fair enough.
00:44:58
mjudd09
think he's a part of his moveset at that point and he has to come up with something different.
00:45:02
Cody Atkinson
turn off any other thoughts on blowline i don't have any more thoughts to you
00:45:06
mjudd09
As far as the bloodline goes, i think to your point is about moving forward. And what does that look like on the back end? There's just so many, at least on the same show that they have to split them. And I'm glad that they did.
00:45:17
mjudd09
um And then once we're through with the solo Sacoa scenario, we have a different, more clear vision of what happens moving forward. I think the storyline on the back end is not necessarily for bloodline as, you know, business. I think it's more so who's going to be the successor for Roman whenever he eventually retires.
00:45:35
mjudd09
You know, he's he's on that wavelength right now, too, as ah as a semi part-timer.
00:45:35
Cody Atkinson
Right. Sure. right.
00:45:40
mjudd09
I think that that's where you establish that. and I think that's what we're seeing right now. um And they're trying to see who the fans are behind. You know, we see how Roman responds. Jacob, go do this. Jay, go do that. Jimmy, you're with me. Reality is he's trying to see who's next.
00:45:57
mjudd09
So I think that's where we go.
00:45:59
Cody Atkinson
So going from probably the most serious storyline in WWE with the bloodline to what has probably been the best storyline in all WWE the last year or so, El Grande
Mask vs. Mask Match Recap
00:46:11
Cody Atkinson
Americano.
00:46:11
mjudd09
Americano. Yes, sir.
00:46:12
Cody Atkinson
Obviously, this is a little old news, right? This is about two to three weeks old at this point. But Cody is not well versed in this.
00:46:17
mjudd09
Yep.
00:46:19
Cody Atkinson
So you and I get to talk about the mask versus mask match that we've wanted for months that we finally got to match.
00:46:22
mjudd09
Yes. Yes.
00:46:26
Cody Atkinson
um And it might be the best match of the year.
00:46:31
mjudd09
i can say to you with all certainty it is going to be extremely difficult to top what they did.
00:46:42
mjudd09
um And we're talking not just the match itself, because the match was phenomenal, but we told a story from beginning to end that match.
00:46:51
Cody Atkinson
Yes.
00:46:52
mjudd09
It was the ups, the downs, the left, the right, the interferences, family being involved in it, the, you know, oh my goodness, brother, it was, or everything you would want in a match, it was there.
00:47:00
Cody Atkinson
the love interests and all that.
00:47:07
mjudd09
And then the promo at the end is what sealed the deal and solidified.
00:47:10
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:47:13
Cody Atkinson
When Gable's giving him the mask and everything, like, yeah, so good.
00:47:16
mjudd09
It solidified him ah in Mexico as because everybody hated him for a hot minute.
00:47:22
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:47:23
mjudd09
He was entering the arenas. They were throwing shit at him. like it was They would throw everything at him. Drinks, food, whatever they had in their hand, chucking it at him to be able to come in and then they're cheering your name at the end of it.
00:47:36
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, the purest definition of like a good heel turn. like and like
00:47:41
mjudd09
Yes.
00:47:41
Cody Atkinson
Ultimately, him getting hurt last year saved his career.
00:47:44
mjudd09
Oh, 100%.
00:47:44
Cody Atkinson
because Because if he didn't get hurt, we wouldn't have got Ludwig on the other side of it, right?
00:47:48
mjudd09
Yep.
00:47:50
Cody Atkinson
So you wouldn't have even had the storyline of mask versus mask like you wouldn't have built this up you wouldn't have built this promo the stipulation of like you can't touch me until the match happens like all these things like you couldn't get that if it wasn't for Gable getting hurt last year or last summer right so getting hurt probably saved not just his career but Kaiser's career too because both of them were on the back burner
00:47:59
mjudd09
hang
00:48:04
mjudd09
Yes, correct.
00:48:10
mjudd09
i think i think it made I think it made both of their careers. And I and i say this with the utmost respect to what they've done previously.
00:48:15
Cody Atkinson
yeah
00:48:19
mjudd09
Chad Gable has been up, down, left, right in WWE from NXT to the main roster, numerous Tag Team Championships.
00:48:26
Cody Atkinson
They're getting killed by the white sixs
00:48:28
mjudd09
Yes, and to to the fact that he had you know American Made and then went on this journey and this journey that he's been on, ah in that you said that injury,
00:48:39
mjudd09
It hurt him, but helped him. It hurt him because we were sitting there well, I guess that's the end of America. granded american gar
00:48:45
Cody Atkinson
YA6. Americano.
00:48:46
mjudd09
That one. Words are hard. um But then you you fast forward to Ludwig stepping in and everybody's going, that's a difference.
00:48:55
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:48:56
mjudd09
How do we get here? And then you, you you we I remember me you were in car driving. and We were talking about, so are we going to have, a German one, a Mexican one, an American one, an Australian one?
00:49:07
mjudd09
We started speculating, right?
00:49:08
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:49:08
mjudd09
Because that would be great to then having Ludwig don all of the Mexican culture
00:49:09
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Yes.
00:49:17
mjudd09
to the point where he does his promos only in Spanish. um And it is believable, the accent, everything to a T. And this man is believable.
00:49:28
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. And he's over. He's so over.
00:49:30
mjudd09
ah they they're They got parades for this man. And then to be able to have that caught that caliber match for two people who for the longest time were simply mid cards.
00:49:33
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:49:41
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. And like lower, like lower end of the mid part.
00:49:42
mjudd09
Mid cards. But lower end. They weren't even like. hey You're going be the second match out. You're in the middle. to Just get us over the hump.
00:49:49
Cody Atkinson
You're a dark match.
00:49:50
mjudd09
Potentially yeah. You're you're coming up before everybody else.
00:49:52
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:54
mjudd09
And to have the main event. This event.
00:49:58
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:49:59
mjudd09
Over. you know vikingo and everybody else say that Everybody knows. la park all these To these two from america and germany to coming
00:50:09
Cody Atkinson
pretending Pretending to be Mexicans.
00:50:11
mjudd09
Mexican. And then to go on and put that on in front the Mexican culture and the Mexican culture says, thank you.
00:50:18
Cody Atkinson
And they love it.
00:50:19
mjudd09
And they said, thank you. They said, thank you, Gable.
00:50:21
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:50:23
mjudd09
And they know who Ludwig is and they still say, you're one of us, buddy.
00:50:26
Cody Atkinson
and And they're out there saying thank you, Americano. Like they're going into the big, like, because if AAA is good for anything, they're good about like committing fully to the bid of these guys.
00:50:34
mjudd09
Yes.
00:50:35
Cody Atkinson
Like when you talk about El Parco, right? Like passing down generation to generation, right? even the king go the king will i mean
00:50:39
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
00:50:41
Cody Atkinson
these crazy matches with many the Kingo and like all these, and all these things, right?
00:50:44
mjudd09
ye
00:50:46
Cody Atkinson
Like they built, they bit into everything that was going on with the Americanos and it gave us probably the best storyline we've seen probably since finished Cody's story at WrestleMania 40.
00:50:56
mjudd09
Yes, I yes, I could agree with that. Yes, 100%.
00:51:01
Cody Atkinson
And it's insane.
00:51:01
mjudd09
And that match. That match probably going down in history is probably one of the best matches won in the Lucha Libre scenario in AAA.
00:51:11
mjudd09
At the same time, we talk about WWE and the cross brands like that, that match set the tone for a lot and it opened eyes even Rey Mysterio.
00:51:11
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:51:19
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Like Raymond Sear now being the GM of AAA, like going into it, right?
00:51:22
mjudd09
and ten
00:51:23
Cody Atkinson
And obviously Taker being down there, but being the booker and all this stuff, right? Being the Triple H for AAA, right? And no, he just booked the match.
00:51:30
mjudd09
But he wasn't even a producer.
00:51:33
Cody Atkinson
That's it.
00:51:33
mjudd09
He just booked the match and the producer is is Pete Dunne.
00:51:34
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
00:51:38
mjudd09
Pete Dunne.
00:51:38
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. One of the Americanos.
00:51:39
mjudd09
The Bruiserweight.
00:51:41
Cody Atkinson
One of the Americanos.
00:51:42
mjudd09
go Crazy, to crazy work.
00:51:42
Cody Atkinson
It was crazy. Yeah. So, I mean... it's a shame that the storylines over but like what's coming from it i love this like
00:51:48
mjudd09
Oh, yeah.
00:51:50
Cody Atkinson
tour thing that Gable's been doing like he him coming out and bailing out Penta you know a couple weeks ago and then last week going out there in and and and you know German Suplex and and Ethan Page to save Rusev and from not showing his face you know this I'm interested because they left it on a part a thing there where Penta was like we've seen you but there's still one person you need to go talk to
00:51:58
mjudd09
way Mr.
00:52:05
mjudd09
Yep. To save brain Mysterio and yep. Yep.
00:52:18
mjudd09
Yep.
00:52:19
Cody Atkinson
So I'm interested to see who that is because Dom is the one that sent him on this journey all those years ago. So is it mysterious is it Dom that he has to go and pay that revenge back to? Is it someone else from a Lucha Libre perspective?
00:52:33
Cody Atkinson
I'm not sure, but...
00:52:33
mjudd09
yes I mean, that's a that's a great question. I think a lot of it has to do with, you know, i think the end of it ends up being something we probably haven't seen coming, to be honest.
00:52:44
mjudd09
i don't It may not even be Dom. I think it's somebody completely different. And it it kind of leads that way, because even when, um you know, Ray Mysterio said, you know, to him last week, he's like, I want to talk to you about things.
00:52:58
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:59
mjudd09
He made it seem like it was so much more. And I was like, yo, are you going to go to Mexico?
00:53:06
Cody Atkinson
yeah
00:53:07
mjudd09
Potentially, like, just be there? Are you go and then, like, do this whole, like, big, you know, production for it? Like, what does that look like? Because them people love you, man.
00:53:17
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, ah regardless, whether it's Gable or Ludwig is Americano, some of the best storytelling that we've had from WWE period, it doesn't matter if it's AAA, NXT, main roster, main event, whatever it may be, POEs, the Americano storyline for the last year has been the best thing WWE's had.
00:53:25
mjudd09
Yes.
00:53:38
Cody Atkinson
So whatever they can do to continue it, and that means that Ludwig is one that takes the belt off a dom for the AAA mega champion. I'm down for that. if we can get there and let him fight against the Kingo, La Parca, any of these guys, right.
00:53:48
mjudd09
Same.
00:53:54
Cody Atkinson
You know, Dr. Wagner Jr. Like there's so many, look at so many people.
00:53:57
mjudd09
Yes. So many good names.
00:53:58
Cody Atkinson
like So like they're, triple A obviously in great hands, right. Between Taker end and, and Ray Mysterio.
00:54:04
mjudd09
Right. Absolutely.
00:54:05
Cody Atkinson
But man, I, I'm very excited for what they can continue to do with Americano. And it does seem like they're going to allow Kaiser to be a baby face Americano on the main roster, which I think is the right choice for,
00:54:16
mjudd09
Oh, as he should. As he should.
00:54:19
Cody Atkinson
So i mean I'm, yeah, I'm stoked.
00:54:19
mjudd09
as the one that helped me. I'm excited to see what they do.
00:54:22
Cody Atkinson
So I think i think we're both going talk about Kaiser and Gable here in a second as well. At least one of the two here in a second because Judd, it's time for our top 10 lists.
00:54:28
mjudd09
Yep.
00:54:34
Cody Atkinson
So we talked a little bit before we hit record. Cody and I do the summer content when it's just really baseball. We're doing a lot of lists to get us to
Top 10 Main Roster Wrestlers Concept
00:54:42
Cody Atkinson
football season. So we can talk a lot about a lot about football, obviously SummerSlam here in a couple months.
00:54:47
Cody Atkinson
So i invited you on this week to do a top 10 list with me because I'm the list guy. So we are going to go through the main roster. So this is just Raw and SmackDown. And it's going to be intergender.
00:54:58
mjudd09
Okay.
00:54:59
Cody Atkinson
So you can do women.
00:55:03
Cody Atkinson
doesn't matter Whoever is your top 10 wrestlers right now on the main roster. So with that, you are the guest. So the guest gets to go first.
00:55:15
Cody Atkinson
So who is your number 10? And there's no parameters. Whatever parameter you have for your making of the list, this can be purely on the mic. It could be in the ring. It can be well-rounded.
00:55:26
Cody Atkinson
Whatever parameters want to set on yourself, there is no rules. So whatever rules are in your head for making this list.
00:55:31
mjudd09
I mean, for me, my parameters are there's so many I could have 18 different lists off of every nook and cranny thing you're looking at. I think overall, what I'm looking at right now is what who do you want to see every single week, right? Like when when we turn it on, who really gets the people going? um Unfortunately for me, I think my top 10 is kind of a mixed bag between both the men and women just because there's just, there's so hard to pick a top like three on either category, either side of it. So for me, I think my number 10 Jey
00:56:10
mjudd09
is jauso It's a hot take.
00:56:13
Cody Atkinson
Made edging, look.
00:56:15
mjudd09
It's a hot take um because, you know, with Jay, like, although we love to see him, he kind of has just not been as main eventy or as oozy as he's been in the past.
00:56:27
mjudd09
And I'm really just like, I really want to see where we go with him to see if he gets back in the top.
00:56:28
Cody Atkinson
I
00:56:33
mjudd09
um But for me, number 10 right now is
00:56:37
Cody Atkinson
like to pick Jay's definitely gonna be my list at some point here where I'm not a hundred percent sure well the site I'm gave me from a full page ad so I can't even see half this list right now that's great my number my number 10 audio got a little weird there.
00:56:58
Cody Atkinson
Um, my number 10 is going to be,
00:57:06
Cody Atkinson
Jacob fought too. Um,
00:57:09
mjudd09
that. there
00:57:10
Cody Atkinson
And obviously we're not giving full blown, you know, dissertations on why, but I think Jacob is someone obviously dealt with the injury last year, but the way he came back into the fold and inserted himself right into the main event scene as if he never left.
00:57:27
Cody Atkinson
aye I think he's someone that a deserves a big title i don't i don't think he's destined for the mid card if you want talk about someone that he can you know roman can hand the reins on to when he retires i think it is jacob i think jacob is someone that is so good on the mic so good in the ring um and for a big guy the way that he moves in the ring like you want to talk about someone that can do it for the next 20 years in the main event scene and it's jacob otto
00:57:35
mjudd09
No.
00:57:41
mjudd09
Yes.
00:57:54
mjudd09
I agree with that one for sure, for sure. Jacob by himself, like he's going to come up later on in my list as well. But he he's phenomenal, man. Phenomenal. um For my number nine, it was hard because there were so many great, great, great women that I really wanted to like put
Impact of Roxanne Perez and Trick Williams
00:58:13
mjudd09
up here. But people that are hot right now, this moment who has a lot of upside for me Roxanne.
00:58:22
mjudd09
is roxanne
00:58:24
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, I'm
00:58:25
mjudd09
Roxanne Perez is is for me like she's believable she gets out there to the ring she takes care business and then her in her movements are methodical they're not just like all right let's let's do this on the fly half the time or like it's not rehearsed half the time either like you just tell like hey there's very little botches very very few botches in her in her movement so like for me Roxanne is up there number nine for me
00:58:49
Cody Atkinson
yeah i'm gonna get to the women's rests here in a second but my number nine um is probably one the, is the most recent of the, of the NXT call-ups recent, or within the last couple of months.
00:58:59
mjudd09
Yeah, yeah.
00:59:01
Cody Atkinson
um And i just want to say, let's talk about it real quick. Let's talk about the Lemon Pepper Stepless.
00:59:06
mjudd09
Step-ass.
00:59:07
Cody Atkinson
um treatment trip Trick Willie, Trick Williams, man, is we talked about it when you were on here for for Mania.
00:59:07
mjudd09
Let's talk about it. Check winning it.
00:59:15
Cody Atkinson
Of the three that came up, Javon, Oba, and Trick, Trick was the most ready-made for the main event scene, right? We talked about Oba being the next Brock Lesnar. He can just run through the roster, or do all these things, right?
00:59:28
Cody Atkinson
Javon probably needed to go through the mid-card, maybe do some tag stuff, whatever, maybe to get the crowd buy-in. Trick came in and the way that you just talked about, um i sorry, John, like, who'd you say for number nine? Roxanne.
00:59:43
Cody Atkinson
Like the way they talk about Roxanne, like being believable.
00:59:44
mjudd09
Yep.
00:59:46
Cody Atkinson
Trick Williams is that on the mid side. I can see Trick being legitimately the face of this company for the next 20 plus years. Like the way he is on the on the mic, he wrestles so good.
00:59:56
mjudd09
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:00:01
Cody Atkinson
Like he, you want to talk about believable, like the way he sells, the way he might the he he pulls off his moves.
01:00:05
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
01:00:07
Cody Atkinson
Trick is 100% ready-made. He works full of celebrities. Him but with Lil Yachty was great during the Mania buildup. Obviously he's in the mid card right now, but I can see him being a main eventer by the end of this year.
01:00:19
mjudd09
Yeah, I mean, to your point, Wittrick, you know, he comes up as well later on in He, you know, as we get closer to it, he literally multi-champion multiple different, you know, companies.
01:00:33
mjudd09
You know, that's...
01:00:34
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, TNA. He was a TNA champion on NXT, so...
01:00:34
mjudd09
that's Yeah.
01:00:37
Cody Atkinson
And then vice versa.
01:00:38
mjudd09
Yeah. i mean, number eight gets a little bit harder because I have, like, a two-way tie for number eight, that's even if we can even get to that point. ah Because my...
01:00:46
Cody Atkinson
It's your list, man. You do whatever you want.
01:00:48
mjudd09
Because my number eight was between Trick Williams and it was between say His Name, He Shall Appear and joe Hendry um as two two guys who really came up and really took the company by storm, you know, not just by their catchphrases and their music. But when you when you watch Didn't matter if they were on TNA, didn't matter to NXT, didn't matter to in the main roster format.
01:01:17
mjudd09
They get the same response no matter where they go. And when they're in the ring, it's believable. It's hard hitting. It's fast paced. You know, they just fit the mold of they have the it factor. So Trick Willie, Joe Hendry for me in number eight.
01:01:35
Cody Atkinson
yeah and we've been on you and i have talked about at length Joe Hendry I think the way that he's come onto the main roster fighting with Logan Paul obviously sucks that Logan got hurt because you're building such a good feud between the two of them so it sucks so they killed the the momentum that Joe Hendry had so I hope they find something to do with him maybe you insert him with Dan Housen and The Miz maybe you do something with that to kind of get him going again
01:01:42
mjudd09
Yes. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
01:01:50
mjudd09
yes
01:02:01
Cody Atkinson
Um, my number eight is going to be Alexa Bliss. I think Alexa is someone that, A, has proven that she can continue to do it year after year after year as she's getting older.
01:02:19
Cody Atkinson
Um, but it is someone that... A has found a way to adapt whether she's been tag team or main eventer. um She continues to show why she's probably the best woman woman on the mic um in terms of the per promo skills.
01:02:32
mjudd09
Oh, for sure. For sure.
01:02:33
Cody Atkinson
She shut down, who did she shut down a couple weeks ago? jade When Jade came back, when she came back, she shut her down real quick.
01:02:37
mjudd09
Jade Cardo. Yep.
01:02:41
Cody Atkinson
So obviously she shows that she can still do it. uh but like her in the ring especially at the age that she is after going through the pregnancy a couple years ago it doesn't look like she's lost a step like she still looks like the way that she did when she was fighting with with bray all those years ago so it's alexis continue to do it over these years and i hope and i think you agree with me i hope that she gets one last main event push before she rides off into the sunset because she deserves one last push
01:02:52
mjudd09
No, for sure.
01:03:08
mjudd09
No, I don't disagree with that at all. I think that one of the biggest things for her is that she's been able to keep Bray Wyatt in everything that she's doing right now, too. So i think that's a huge, huge thing for her. um i think that, to your point, I hope that she does get one more run. I think she definitely deserves it. The question is, so does Flair. And I think that that's where a lot of people are headed. down that path. Segway to my number seven. It is not Flair. Unfortunately, it's not Bliss, but I will say Eoskai.
01:03:40
mjudd09
And I will say Eoskai, the way she's been as of late as the representation of a culture, the representation of a movement in that realm.
01:03:40
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:03:50
mjudd09
What she can do in the ring is is is psychotic to me because I can't do that. um But she she literally is um epitomizing what it is to be what a friend.
01:04:03
mjudd09
ah But also at the same time, she will go in there, she she fights. She may not speak a lot of English, But I understand in your movement, you ain't gotta say a lot. Just go out there, punch him in the face and then get a bite of me. But she does a phenomenal job for me and I love watching her play. Get get out there and just go crazy all the time. You know, I think that's great for her.
01:04:25
Cody Atkinson
yeah we're we're at eight no Yeah, we're at eight, right? Or seven?
01:04:28
mjudd09
Seven.
01:04:29
Cody Atkinson
Seven. um My number seven is Tiffy time.
01:04:36
mjudd09
I knew he she was gonna come on the list at some point.
01:04:37
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, i I love this angle that she has with Chelsea Green right now. I love the mid-card version of Tiffy because it almost feels like she has that edge that way we talked about, like you and talked about from like her NXT days where she has that chip on her shoulders she's got a little bit more to prove obviously we know she can hold the main title belt she's proven that she's taken on some some big names and Charlotte Flair, Jay Cardigal etc so I love this mid card version of her and I think she's done an excellent job of not necessarily being a healer fa she's doing the tweener role really well um you know be able to be a little healish with Chelsea Chelsea's getting the humor side out of her so I love this storyline that they have going back and forth I don't know what the payoff is in it long term
01:04:45
mjudd09
Yes.
01:04:51
mjudd09
Yes.
01:05:01
mjudd09
Yep.
01:05:11
mjudd09
Yes.
01:05:23
Cody Atkinson
But the storytelling they're doing right now week to week on SmackDown is hilarious and I'm here for it. But Tiffy is someone that they could call and like, hey, you're going back to the main title scene and it's believable.
01:05:28
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:05:34
mjudd09
Yeah. And I don't disagree. um i think that she's there low key as the not the stepping stone, but more like the person who kind of gauges where a lot of these other people are. And right now, Chelsea has been proven to be ah confident person to believe in as far as the main card, the main title goes.
01:05:53
mjudd09
But right now with the heavy hitters we have in that realm, this is where she fits. And I'm interested to see, you know, Tiffy against the likes of like a soul Ruka, library Valkyria, you know, ah
01:06:03
Cody Atkinson
I thought
01:06:07
mjudd09
JC Jane, like all that, all these names that were thrown out there that can really come in and do she's kind of like the gauger for it, you know, because the people get behind Tiffy. So we'll see what that happens in the future. um Number six for me.
01:06:24
mjudd09
Obafemi.
01:06:26
Cody Atkinson
he was gonna be higher on your list.
Oba's Prominence in WWE and Rivalry with Lesnar
01:06:28
mjudd09
There's a reason why, but he's number six on my list. um For me, it's Oba has such a huge backing. um The biggest issue that I have is in NXT, he was built as this monster powerhouse. he He went against everybody, it didn't matter who. And w has a tendency of watering down these big guys who come in with a lot of just squash matches. and that's what they're doing again. I mean, granted, it works and gets someone where it gets people to believe that they're just a monster powerhouse.
01:06:56
mjudd09
um But they did something different with him was that they just threw him against tag teams where before they didn't do against like your major tag teams. So for him, it's up there because of that part of it.
01:07:07
mjudd09
Also, my son just loves him. Music comes on. He's who, who.
01:07:11
Cody Atkinson
Oh, and it's he's still over with it too.
01:07:12
mjudd09
And then the promo.
01:07:14
Cody Atkinson
like the Did you see the addition that they did to it last week where they casted his shadow over the crowd?
01:07:14
mjudd09
Yes.
01:07:20
mjudd09
Oh, so good.
01:07:21
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, I'm i' here for you.
01:07:22
mjudd09
oh good. But I think the biggest thing for me, though, in all honesty, is the feud with Brock. How many people have we had that literally just came in main roster?
01:07:34
mjudd09
Here's Brock Lesnar. We haven't seen that at all since back when Brock was walking around with the title and at that time.
01:07:36
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:07:41
Cody Atkinson
With Cena, really.
01:07:41
mjudd09
Yeah. So...
01:07:42
Cody Atkinson
by really having
01:07:43
mjudd09
yeah
01:07:44
Cody Atkinson
Since he actually had a like legitimate rival.
01:07:44
mjudd09
so Correct. So like for me, this is huge, right? So it's that it's the relatability with him.
01:07:49
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:07:51
mjudd09
Like it is so nice to see something new, refreshing other than always getting Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar, Brock Lesnar. Brock has met his match. So we'll see what happens moving forward with him. But Oba, let's hold down six spots.
01:08:04
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Number six for me, because so to me, top five is like the goats, right? the The best of the best that's going on right now. My number six is going to be, you've got a duo in there. to get a duo in there too.
01:08:17
Cody Atkinson
I'm going to go the El
Kaiser and Gable's Potential in Wrestling
01:08:18
Cody Atkinson
Grande Americano. So this is going to be Kaiser and Gable, right?
01:08:19
mjudd09
Yes.
01:08:22
Cody Atkinson
Obviously we just got done talking at at length about how great they were over the last over the last year, right? I think the potential that they have going forward, of them,
01:08:31
mjudd09
Yes.
01:08:32
Cody Atkinson
with Kaiser doing double duty with AAA and, and main roster Chad doing things with the Luchas on the main roster. I think there's so much potential for um more ah even greater storytelling going forward with, for those two guys, even Bravo and, and, um,
01:08:48
Cody Atkinson
the other Americana that runs around with them. um i
01:08:50
mjudd09
Yes.
01:08:51
Cody Atkinson
I think there's such great storytelling that they continue to do. And, you know, whether you do involve Dom and you go down to AAA with Dom and Gable comes out to Bill Alkaizer and stuff like, there's such good still like storytelling you can still do.
01:09:04
Cody Atkinson
i can't put them top five because my top five is going to be legitimately the best of the best that's on this roster right now. But I can't make this list of current and not have the Americanos on this list.
01:09:16
mjudd09
No, for sure. i can
Dan Housen's Influence in Wrestling
01:09:18
mjudd09
understand that. um Ludwig for me was, you know, until he hit that part at the the this past few you know months leading up to AAA, you know, it was hard to see which way they were going to go. Right. And and i think the match itself is what really solidified all of the storytelling from the past. But i think leading up to it, I was i was like, what's going to happen? What's happening here? ah It wasn't that I didn't want to watch them.
01:09:46
mjudd09
It just it was harder to watch them at the beginning, getting getting to that match. So for me, Ludwig and him were my number 11 because they were right behind Jake.
01:09:51
Cody Atkinson
Sure. The build up to it. Yeah.
01:09:55
Cody Atkinson
Sure.
01:09:57
mjudd09
because like I wanted to watch them, but it was like, what am I going do with this? um But my number five was a two-way tie between Dan Housen and Jacob Fatu. Now, I'll tell you why.
01:10:07
Cody Atkinson
Hmm.
01:10:09
mjudd09
With Jacob, again, just like Ludwig, just like, you know, Chad Gable, there's a lot of upside with him. in he's just so raw, so real.
01:10:20
mjudd09
there's There's no faking his promos. There's no faking his movement. There's no faking, you know, him as a person. And then you look at the opposite side of because you got two opposite ends the spectrum here with Dan Housen.
01:10:33
mjudd09
um dan housing has very little in-ring with wwe has lot more in-ring in other companies but dan housing is has to be featured on every single thing he's a merch mover he is bit he's the low-key he's the face of the business right now and and not just the business from the wv but the industry we're talking he's a face of wrestling on multiple platforms.
01:10:43
Cody Atkinson
every week. every week
01:10:59
mjudd09
We talk about NBA, we talk about NHL, we talk about MLB, low-key, because some people are talking about it there too. But it's the fact that as a brand, you can get behind Dan Housen and he's not going to fold under pressure.
01:11:11
mjudd09
He's actually going to enhance it tenfold. And people buy into it. Hell, you got people running around with New York Knicks jerseys and a Dan Housen mask on right now talking about some, oh, he did this, but reality is they did it.
01:11:24
mjudd09
You know, but it's one of those things where is it something that you buy into? Is it not? And it becomes a huge talking point. And back to Jacob Fatu, does he become the next person in line for the bloodline?
01:11:36
mjudd09
There's so many opportunities there that, dude, I just love the character of Jacob, but also love the character, the character of
01:11:47
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, Dan Housel for me is number 11. Same credit, but the same way that you were talking about for the Americanos. like he the The impact that he's had since, what was that? That was a Elimination Chamber in Chicago.
01:11:57
Cody Atkinson
a Not well received in Chicago just by the virtue of like, WWE didn't know how to book it.
01:12:03
mjudd09
For sure.
01:12:03
Cody Atkinson
But how they've implemented him since and allowing him to do yeah espn first take interact with stephen a popping up and then and the next broadcast popping up you know with the NHL and you you know you're mentioning MLB.
01:12:16
Cody Atkinson
He is someone that is spanning media and I think that's something that we've lost since John Cena's been gone you know for so many years, right but since he was a part-timer.
01:12:23
mjudd09
Yes.
01:12:26
Cody Atkinson
Someone that's been able to span movies, TV, different genres. John Cena shows up and doing late night, he's showing up and going to sporting events, all these things.
01:12:36
mjudd09
yes yes yeah
01:12:37
Cody Atkinson
Dan Housen's now that guy as a joke wrestler but when he is in the ring and he's fighting the Miz or or Kit Wilson or whatever it's hilarious and we haven't really had that we haven't had that since Prime R-Truth and like yeah Downhausen's doing it and probably doing it better than even Prime R-Truth was right because he he is believable it is so fun like so it doesn't make my top 10 but like you gotta give credit for credit as dude WWE has figured out has figured out how to book this guy and book him well um
01:13:05
mjudd09
For sure.
01:13:09
mjudd09
Yeah, no I agree.
01:13:11
Cody Atkinson
My number five, and and this is where it gets tough, man. When you get to the top five, like it i keep going back and forth on so many people, but I love your your parameter.
01:13:16
mjudd09
Yep.
01:13:21
Cody Atkinson
Like, who do you want to see on weekly television? And my number five is Penta. i
01:13:28
mjudd09
he
01:13:31
Cody Atkinson
And remember watching... you know, January 6th, first Monday Night Raw on Netflix, you and I on FaceTime talking about it, and Penta's music hits.
01:13:43
Cody Atkinson
And you're freaking out because you knew Penta from AEW and TNA and all these other times, right?
01:13:47
mjudd09
And Triple A, Lucha Underground.
01:13:49
Cody Atkinson
And AAA, right.
01:13:50
mjudd09
yep
01:13:51
Cody Atkinson
And you're like, this guy's it. And I'm like, I'm over here like, this Rey Mysterio knockoff, he's the guy? i And it took a while for me to buy into Penta and, you know,
01:14:03
Cody Atkinson
a He's earned so much from the company that over the last year and some change, him winning the icy title at mania felt so deserved and so warranted from the crowd and the reception that he got and ever since then him being a fighting champion him going out there and doing the right thing the crowd loves penta you did the zero mero like the crowd loves him the he he gives that prime mysterio where the the ring gear is matching you know what he's doing in the crowd the titan tron like
01:14:21
mjudd09
Yep.
01:14:39
Cody Atkinson
The pyro, like the moveset, getting the Mexican Destroyer to work on the main roster, because that was something you and I talked about.
01:14:40
mjudd09
yep yes
01:14:46
Cody Atkinson
it was like, can his moveset work on the main roster? Because AEW does things a lot more you know crazier than the WWE does.
01:14:53
mjudd09
Yes.
01:14:54
Cody Atkinson
So getting the Mexican Destroyer to work on the main roster, and these guys are working with him,
01:14:59
mjudd09
Day after day, yep.
01:15:04
Cody Atkinson
carters you're getting a dom mysterio interacting with them you're getting the fin ballers the chad cables you know logan paul's have fought with him you know then you even talked about the you know so many other people ray mysterio has now fought him like javon evans rusev like big names in the industry have gone up against penta but he's must see tv every single week his promos have gotten better his english has gotten better over the last year
01:15:25
mjudd09
Yes.
01:15:29
Cody Atkinson
And you can feel the emotion from Penta after he won it when he's like, this isn't just for me. It's for everyone that's believed in me for all these years and really pushed me to get here. Like you can feel that emotion from him when he broke kayfabe for a little bit.
01:15:41
Cody Atkinson
But man, ever since then, the way that he's held himself and like whether or not we get the Lucha Brothers down in AAA or not, this push for Penta over the last year has solidified for me that I'm i'm a Penta fan and I'll be a Penta fan for the foreseeable future.
01:15:55
mjudd09
I don't know for sure. um And i think
Penta's Journey to Intercontinental Title
01:15:59
mjudd09
Penta is... is not next in line, like behind like a Rey Mysterio kind of deal whatsoever, but I think that he eludes what Rey Mysterio stood for as far as Lucha Libre and just what that means ah to these Mexican wrestlers or, you know, Latin American wrestlers and Lucha Libre style of wrestling.
01:16:20
mjudd09
um And he's phenomenal what he does because he's also my number four. He's my number four.
01:16:26
Cody Atkinson
Nice.
01:16:27
mjudd09
um and you know if WWE would just pull the trigger and have him and his brother be together. i think you'll, if you if you're getting behind him the way you are, um just wait to see him and his brother go together like they do on these other shows and like in AAA and things like that. Like, bro, it is night and day when you watch them work together. It's like one person split into two and they're just everywhere doing everything. And you're just like, i don't know which way to watch. Like, it is great work.
01:16:59
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:17:00
mjudd09
to ask my number four.
01:17:02
Cody Atkinson
My number four, going back over to the women's side of things, is going to be Liv Morgan.
01:17:08
mjudd09
Yep.
01:17:09
Cody Atkinson
And, regrettably, that's probably the last woman wrestler on my list because the top three spots, I think there's so many, there's guys that are on here that are immediate must-see TV every single time that you turn the TV on.
Liv Morgan's Growth and Versatility
01:17:20
Cody Atkinson
um And that's no shade like, the you know the Beckys, the Charlottes, and everyone else that's on this list. Jordan Grace, that has been amazing since she's been on the main roster.
01:17:28
mjudd09
Oh my God, yes.
01:17:29
Cody Atkinson
But Liv Morgan is someone that has made so much headway on me as a fan since the Rumble two years ago, right? When she had an amazing showing at the Rumble that year and then obviously this year winning the Rumble.
01:17:44
Cody Atkinson
um
01:17:44
mjudd09
Yes. Yep.
01:17:45
Cody Atkinson
But the way that she's gone back and forth, whether it's, you know, leading Judgment Day, getting her coming back. Interacting with John Cena, the way that she manipulates Dom Mysterio, the way that she's really become the puppet master of Judgment Day without really being the leader within the group, because it's still very evident that they want Dom to be the leader, but it's really that it's Liv in the background that's controlling Dom and Raquel, right?
01:18:09
Cody Atkinson
so and like she orchestrated the the turn on finn right and you know there's such good storytelling with her we obviously talked so much about her at the the beginning when you know the potential of her winning two belts like you don't get that type of reputation without putting in the work and like the way she wrestles super believable like she could fight against rhea ripley she can then turn around and go fight nia jacks like she could fight you know so so a big small in between doesn't really matter like great promos that we talked we talked about the telenovela like kind of storytelling they did between her between the two of them like that shows the diversity that she has in the promo skills and way that she can build up um to me puts her over Rhea Ripley as the best women's wrestler right now in WWE
01:18:38
mjudd09
Oh my God, yes.
01:18:49
mjudd09
um no
01:18:56
mjudd09
Currently, yeah I mean, to your point, I do agree. Only difference would be for me is that When it comes to Rhea, her promos um for me are believable.
01:19:07
mjudd09
I get behind it. Liv right there is is up
Seth Rollins' Consistent Performance
01:19:11
mjudd09
there. you know I think from standpoint of like opposite ends of the spectrum, I think that Liv definitely worked twice as hard to get herself to be there.
01:19:21
mjudd09
Seeing her from going from NXT and and being this just annoying kind of character, you're like, o you Harley Quinn wannabe. I just can't.
01:19:30
Cody Atkinson
Mm-hmm.
01:19:30
mjudd09
I can't see it. to being now, oh, that's Liv Morgan. You know, and and I think, you know, to your point, she does give Rhea a run for her money in that realm. For me, when it comes to the top three, it's it's hard. There's so many who deserve to be in the top three um for me that I would want to see every week. um
01:19:57
mjudd09
Number three has got to be
01:20:02
mjudd09
my boy Seth freaking Rollins.
01:20:04
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:20:06
mjudd09
You bring up the point about everything matching. I don't know how many people pay attention to details. Detail wise, Seth, every time he comes out, whatever he's wearing is matching his TitanTron. Every single week, you know, if he's wearing red, his Titan tron's red. He's wearing black, his Titan tron's black. He's wearing blue, his Titan tron's blue. It is literally the attention to detail every week. It is.
01:20:27
mjudd09
It doesn't matter. He's a face. He's a heel. You know, it doesn't matter what faction he's in. It it does. Oh, the fans are just there every single week.
01:20:40
mjudd09
And on the mic, he goes toe to toe with every single person. And i wish you would, you're probably going hate me for it because seem Punk is not on my top three.
01:20:52
mjudd09
Unfortunately, not my top five right now, just because one, he's out right now, I you talking about currently, um but going toe to toe in that feud with, you know, CM Punk, and we know pipe bomb after pipe bomb after pipe bomb, then you throw Seth into it, and he'd go toe and toe.
01:21:10
mjudd09
There's only one other person who I would match that type of energy with, and he is not in WWE, so he's on a separate list, and we'll talk about that at a later time, but he's my number three.
01:21:17
Cody Atkinson
uh yeah side note CM Punk also not on my list because he's not he's on vacation right and there's some reason why Vicaraguan on this list right and so so that's why um
01:21:27
mjudd09
Correct. Same.
01:21:30
Cody Atkinson
but my number three um is the revolutionary he is the visionary he is seth freaking rollins um and it's the same points he's must see tv every single week the this this whole story that he's going over like i have no friends and then montez ford he you know he's over with him now and you know he's wanting to be the vision killer and you know stop what he you know finish what he started right and all that stuff so like he's must see tv every single week like
01:21:37
mjudd09
The Visionaries. It's freaking balance.
01:21:45
mjudd09
Oh, yes.
01:22:02
mjudd09
He is. Yes.
01:22:04
Cody Atkinson
And they alluded to it, man, a couple weeks ago when they did the stare down between him and Roman. right So like we're going to get that again at some point and that's money every single time we get that.
01:22:14
Cody Atkinson
right
01:22:14
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
01:22:15
Cody Atkinson
Whenever he's done with Braun Breaker and in the and the Vision. so he's just so good um and he has no reason to be as good as he is but he's so good and in it's and it's natural you can and even like when he's off brand right the way he talks about like i hate cm punk he's like i hate phil like get him out of here like he everything is so natural to him and it's amazing to watch and like the crowd reaction i want to be in the crowd
01:22:26
mjudd09
Oh, that part, that part right there.
01:22:36
mjudd09
Yep.
01:22:40
mjudd09
Yes.
01:22:45
mjudd09
Yes.
01:22:50
mjudd09
Yes. yes yes
01:22:52
Cody Atkinson
must-see TV every single week.
01:22:54
mjudd09
Yeah. You know, and just like him, you know, my number two. What you want to talk about?
Cody Rhodes as a Prominent WWE Figure
01:23:01
mjudd09
Cody Rhodes, you know, ah he has to be up there in the top because at the end of day, when it comes to his story, sure, it was years ago. But at the end of the day, you come back to the fact that today in this day and age, this world that we're living in right now, What do people want to see back at the bloodline? They want to see Sami Zayn get this push. They want to see Sami Zayn show his face. And he's literally giving Sami Zayn just that. he is the this He is this version's, I want to say this generation's kind John Cena, if you would.
01:23:34
Cody Atkinson
but not like Super Cena.
01:23:35
mjudd09
because yeah not like super cena we're talking like cena with the u.s title saying i'm here to give you an opportunity you know like in that realm he's not afraid to back down he always says it every week i'm easy to find hard to beat and that's just like john cena if you want some come get some and i think that for me every single week you come out every single week is is it's no there's no surprises you know what you're getting every week And usually when somebody's going to come out, pan it to the crowd, but then also punch by in the face.
01:23:36
Cody Atkinson
Like, it's very much like...
01:23:42
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:23:52
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:24:04
mjudd09
And Cody Rhodes does it every single week. And then for for for a champion to do it is huge in this era because 90% of our champions are what?
01:24:16
mjudd09
Part-timers, dog. They don't even just to see him come out every week. And it doesn't matter if it's on Raw or SmackDown. It doesn't matter. He's going to come in.
01:24:22
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:24:23
mjudd09
He's going to show up. He's going to tell you about yourself. And he's to punch you him the face while he's doing it.
01:24:28
Cody Atkinson
And another one that he the Roman Cody three the inevitable Roman Cody three whenever we do get it.
01:24:32
mjudd09
Oh, for sure.
01:24:33
Cody Atkinson
Like and they set it up after they set it up a couple weeks ago right after after what was it back?
01:24:33
mjudd09
They lose that scene.
01:24:38
Cody Atkinson
No, what was the last one we just did? Yeah.
01:24:40
mjudd09
Yes, they when he was walking out, yeah, when he beat Jay Goffatou and he was walking out the locker room and ran around the code, he kind of looked him.
01:24:42
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:24:47
Cody Atkinson
Right, right, Cody. You mentioned, or I just mentioned them Roman would be in my top 10 if he wasn't a part-timer because you can't be must-see TV if you're taking time off.
01:24:52
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:24:55
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:24:58
Cody Atkinson
um So he's not in my top 10, but if he was full-time, if this was two years ago, Roman would be number one. But my number two, because he is must-see TV every single week, and every single time he picks up the microphone, every time someone challenges him, ever since he quote-unquote retired Brock Lesnar,
01:25:18
Cody Atkinson
obafemi is the face of wwe like he is like he is the guy that you're gonna look at 10 15 20 maybe even 30 years from now and you're gonna look out in the same way that we look like our generation looked at brock lesnar right was like we're gonna tell our kids about like hey like brock lesnar was the guy but you want to talk about you want to talk about obafemi like obafemi
01:25:21
mjudd09
Yeah, is getting there.
01:25:35
mjudd09
Yeah.
Obafemi's Future in WWE
01:25:43
Cody Atkinson
seven and F5s and still got up. Like, no one did it. Super Cena couldn't even eat seven and F5s and get back up. Like, Cena took four and couldn't get back up, right?
01:25:51
mjudd09
if it finished yeah
01:25:54
Cody Atkinson
But like, Oba doesn't need the mouthpiece that Brock had. Like, he can he can get on the mic and he can cut an amazing promo.
01:25:59
mjudd09
correct
01:26:04
Cody Atkinson
And I think when he retires Brock in at some extent, because it's written in the stars at this point, right? When he retires Brock and then you actually set him on a path towards a bell whether that's Roman or Cody or Punk or Seth or whoever has it, that is going to be the moment that he's made in the WWE w because we saw it on NXT. You and I saw it on NXT.
01:26:29
Cody Atkinson
The way he cut promos against Javon, Ricky Saints, Trick Williams, like you name it Ethan Page, all these guys that he cut promos against, he was better them than them on the microphone.
01:26:39
mjudd09
yeah
01:26:41
Cody Atkinson
so and
01:26:41
mjudd09
in
01:26:42
Cody Atkinson
And so like imagine settinging who like gets romanment if there's someone that beats the bloodline it's Oba Femi. Like, that's who i that's who I see dethroning Roman Reigns because he's that believable.
01:26:50
mjudd09
you know
01:26:54
Cody Atkinson
So that's my number two. and And it's just short of number one because i I think you know where my number one is. I know where your number one's going, I think. But, my man, like, Oba, the way that going to be talking about Oba come next WrestleMania, the dude is going to be written in the stars.
01:27:13
mjudd09
Albert absolutely let's switch it up for number one who's your number one
01:27:13
Cody Atkinson
Good. Yeah. Yeah.
01:27:19
Cody Atkinson
My number one is Cody Rhodes, the American nightmare himself.
01:27:21
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:27:23
Cody Atkinson
um and And it's for the same reasons you gave, right?
01:27:23
mjudd09
Yeah, see you, man. instance
01:27:26
Cody Atkinson
Like I don't have any new notes, right? He is the guy that, you know, you talk about QB1, the guy that's leading the company, the guy that you can send out there to do press. this And he is this generation John Cena, you already alluded to, right?
01:27:37
Cody Atkinson
Not the same character, but the same type of personality right but the if you need a face of the company you need someone's going to carry the company it's the safe pick it's the same thing that when vince needed someone to carry the company for the next year hey i'm gonna go ahead of john cena because you know that i can put a title on him cody can drop the belt for three months and then three months later he's got the belt on him again because triple needs him to have the belt um but i think when you look at the potential of cody roads when he does drop the belt
01:28:01
mjudd09
yes
01:28:07
Cody Atkinson
and whether it is the heel story of doing Cody Lander, or if it is still the babyface Cody that we have right now, both sides are believable.
01:28:15
mjudd09
yes
01:28:16
Cody Atkinson
And like, you know, there's the potential of including his wife in the stories again, because like now that she's, that now they're not having kids all that stuff. Like Cody has so much still left to tell. And whether that's Cody Roman three, Cody punk, which has been alluded to at the WrestleMania, like lifelong friends, people that like mentor, mentor Cody back in the day. Right.
01:28:35
Cody Atkinson
We get amazing match between Cody and John last year at SummerSlam, which was one of the best matches of the year last year.
01:28:36
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:28:42
Cody Atkinson
Like there's so much that Cody has left.
01:28:42
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:28:44
Cody Atkinson
And like, you can talk about Cody in 10 years from now and look at the talent he can put over. Like, you know he can putt over an ethan page he can putt over javon evans he can putt over you know anyone like shiloh we talked about down in nxt like there's so many of these younger names that like cody's gonna have that moment that john had the last 10 years of seen his career of putting over the next generation of talent and like
01:28:57
mjudd09
Yep. Yep.
01:29:08
Cody Atkinson
Cody is a great usher for that and it's someone that you know Punk is my favorite wrestler probably of all time right Punk is doing the same thing right now he's putting over this younger talent and allowing them to come up him and Cody are in that same boat like we're not gonna have these guys in the next ten years which sucks but like what an amazing time that we get to live in that we had Cody Rhodes and stories that we've got to tell whether it was AEW New Japan or wherever Cody was to finish my story and like that is probably the most watched eight minutes of wrestling of all time right that that final eight minutes of that match against Roman at 40 it's
01:29:24
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:29:27
mjudd09
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
01:29:39
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:29:42
mjudd09
Yes, yes.
01:29:43
Cody Atkinson
it's It's so good, right? So that's the potential you have when you book a Cody match, no matter when you do it. like You have the potential to book that type of match because Cody's going to put on that level of production every single time.
01:29:51
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:29:57
mjudd09
No, and I don't disagree with that statement whatsoever. Now, when you said you thought of my number one, you thought I was going to go with the tribal chief.
01:30:09
mjudd09
Um, but remember what we just said about the parameters of must see every week. um Yes, Roman is a part time. Yes, Roman is my OTC.
01:30:20
mjudd09
You know, I do I did do acknowledge you, but understand that there's something else that I value so much more than just the guy who can tell a story you when they're not there.
01:30:31
mjudd09
I value you a good bad guy.
01:30:34
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:30:34
mjudd09
And for me, We're talking about and before I actually before I get to that point, when we talk about Cody, when I look at our list and i look at everybody that would have been or could have been or have some type of involvement, a lot of them went through the Bullet Club.
01:30:48
mjudd09
So we talk about Finn Balor, we talk about Cody Rose, we talk about Tom Matanga. So there's so many people that been through that, right?
01:30:53
Cody Atkinson
Since getting all of out.
01:30:55
mjudd09
Who all went together and look where they are now. They're all powerhouse in WWE and they started elsewhere. But this person didn't. This person that I'm referring to started their career a long time ago. We're talking almost 20 years ago. And we're talking the fact that this person has been through it all.
01:31:13
Cody Atkinson
I know where you're going.
01:31:14
mjudd09
Up, down, left, right. Didn't know who his daddy was.
01:31:17
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:31:18
mjudd09
So now we look at must-see TV week after week after
Dominic Mysterio's Compelling Character Role
01:31:24
mjudd09
week. It doesn't matter if it's in AAA. It doesn't matter if it's in WWE. He hates his daddy here.
01:31:29
mjudd09
He hates his daddy there. And for me, Dominic Mysterio was the number one heel.
01:31:32
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:31:36
mjudd09
that WWE has ever had that he can't even talk on a microphone.
01:31:42
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:31:42
mjudd09
And we talk about the fact that in the ring, his style is mixed between both him daddies. We talk about Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio, the best to ever do it, and his whole workload, everything he does, it mimics both of them.
01:31:58
mjudd09
It's down to the hairstyle of Eddie Guerrero, to the boots of Eddie Guerrero, to the moves that are Raymond Stereo.
01:32:02
Cody Atkinson
The 619. Yeah. Yeah.
01:32:04
mjudd09
It's just the the the work on them. There's something else that I should have mentioned before, too, is we talk about kayfabe. And there's some times where a lot of our wrestlers have broken down that wall that says, I'm Phil, right?
01:32:16
Cody Atkinson
yeah
01:32:18
mjudd09
Let's talk about seeing Punk. I'm Phil kind of deal, or Roman Reigns talking about. his name, you know. So for me, when we talk about Dom, it doesn't matter what interview it is. It doesn't matter where he's at. Oh, I hate that guy talking about his dad, you know, and it's it is just the fact that he loves his dad.
01:32:33
Cody Atkinson
yeah yeah
01:32:33
mjudd09
We know this, but like it doesn't matter when the camera's on. He's Dominic Mysterio when the camera's off. That's Rey Mysterio's son. And I think that for me, when it comes to every week, I just want to see how bad the crowd's going to boo this man every freaking week. I want to see the interaction between him and Liv. I want to see the interaction of him coming out, especially right now, coming out to talk trash to Obafemi and saying that he's going to beat him. And I'm just like, huh okay, guy. um So for me, it's like um i'm i I'm so invested in this heel.
01:33:11
mjudd09
you know persona that i'm like if he goes face what do you do like how do you how do you turn him face and then on top of that how does he win everybody over like i think that when that happens you're gonna have the biggest baby face you've ever had and that's saying a lot considering you have ludic kaiser right now it's saying a lot we have chad gable right now it's saying a lot you have trick williams you have you know the Joe Hendry, Javon Evans, you you know, Rhea Ripley have a lot of faces right now, but I think he's to be bigger than all of them whenever he turns face.
01:33:37
Cody Atkinson
Javon Evans.
01:33:45
mjudd09
And there's not very many people that stay healed the entire career. And there's many people that stay face or as a tweener. I think he's a true tweener who is and going to at some point be the biggest baby face you've ever seen in WWE.
01:33:58
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, I mean, you know I love Dom. I think Dom is legitimately one of the best wrestlers in the business right now.
01:34:01
mjudd09
Yes.
01:34:04
Cody Atkinson
And it's tough because when you talk about a top 10, it's so hard.
01:34:05
mjudd09
Oh my God. Yes.
01:34:08
Cody Atkinson
Like this could have very easily gone top 20, top 30, right?
01:34:12
mjudd09
Oh, easy, easy.
01:34:12
Cody Atkinson
we We could have hit so many names, right? Dom is someone that I looked at. was like, man, I want to put Dom in here. And the only issue that I have is that until King of the Ring, Dom was uninvolved in good enough storytelling for me.
01:34:23
Cody Atkinson
So like his story, was like the story that he had just wasn't must see for me. What he's doing now is must see TV because the way that he's interacting with Hova and like the way that they're building the up and if we do get King and Queen of the Ring being him and Liv, oh my God, what the amount of storytelling we can get.
01:34:34
mjudd09
I think.
01:34:39
Cody Atkinson
there They're going to be so that Monday and that Monday after King of the Ring is going to be so annoying and they both come out like it's going to be great.
01:34:43
mjudd09
Oh, absolutely. But I think think that we have to also remember that like the things that he's saying, and when you dissect what he's saying, and who was it?
01:34:54
mjudd09
I think it was Finn who said in an interview, he's like, do you want to go over your lines? And he's like, don't know, figure it out when I get out there. Everything he's saying, one is not one, not scripted, but two, it's methodical.
01:35:02
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:35:03
mjudd09
It is him saying, I've been here for 20 years. Reality is, he was there for a little bit, and he was gone forever, and then showed up. But reality is, is like when you're telling that story, you're telling the story of, the Eddie Guerrero's you're telling the story to Rey Mysterio's you're telling the story of like where I've been and how I'm here sure we could say oh of the storylines aren't like necessarily believable but he is and his character is um we talk about character development where he was at versus where he is now and I can say that like half the roster
01:35:36
mjudd09
hasn't had a character development. They've just been the same way. You know, look at the likes of Randy Orton, have several different versions of himself. Undertaker have several different versions of himself. Dominic, he was Rey Mysterio's son.
01:35:48
mjudd09
He was tag team with him. He was the take the name, take the thing, took the mask off.
01:35:50
Cody Atkinson
did the baby face with his dad.
01:35:53
mjudd09
And now he is more like Eddie Guerrero. And I'm like, okay, how do you develop this newer version, new age of what e Eddie Guerrero would have been?
01:36:02
Cody Atkinson
Yeah.
01:36:03
mjudd09
Right. So my, you know, we had a list of like top wrestlers of that's your favorite Eddie Guerrero is up there for me. So like to see.
01:36:10
Cody Atkinson
Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
01:36:11
mjudd09
the the comparison between the two and the mix between him and Ray dude, it is a lot of great work to your point. He does have a lot of help from live Morgan in that realm, being able to just feed off that energy and just keep letting to run. That's why she is a mouthpiece half the time. You know, and I think that the the tandem was such a good mix of the two together. I think that was phenomenal because at one point we were looking at each other going,
01:36:38
mjudd09
Liv Morgan, Alexa Bliss, same, same. And now that they have very distinct characteristics and she's coming into herself, because she's from Jersey, so she's out of mouth.
01:36:42
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Yeah.
01:36:50
mjudd09
It is what it is. And now she's able to play it up. And she's able to do it with Dirty Dom versus it being just Dominic Mysterio. And I think that that's huge in that realm. And that's why he has to be must-see every week for me, just so I can say, i hate you.
Dominic's Potential Future Storylines
01:37:07
Cody Atkinson
Yeah, and i i there's so many people that are willing to take over this company in the next two to three years, right?
01:37:10
mjudd09
Yes.
01:37:14
mjudd09
Yes.
01:37:15
Cody Atkinson
Dom is someone that the moment he puts that main event title on himself, the it's going to be so good because like the feuds that they get set up with them is are going to be so believable because you can do a Dom versus Cena, a Dom versus versus...
01:37:22
mjudd09
fin
01:37:30
mjudd09
yes
01:37:31
Cody Atkinson
ah you name Javon Evans, you can do him versus Penta, you can do him and versus Bray again. like There's so many names. that You can literally do a two-year reign of Dom as the Undisputed, and it's going to be believable
01:37:41
mjudd09
Oh my God, yes.
01:37:45
Cody Atkinson
and you can end it with like him going babyface and Like, literally, by the losing the belt is what it's like, hey, I gotta go straight.
01:37:45
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:37:50
Cody Atkinson
I gotta go, like, venture and turn face on and all. Like, there's such a good storytelling that you can do with Dom, right? And it sucks because from a fan perspective, we have to wait for these guys to get their push.
01:38:03
Cody Atkinson
But think about, like, a future of, like, you know, him and Javon holding a title or him and Hoba holding the main event titles.
01:38:03
mjudd09
Yeah.
01:38:09
Cody Atkinson
And, like, you get the two of them facing off the crown jewel or you get it whatever it may be. Like, there's so many, like,
01:38:15
mjudd09
I don't know. Hmm.
01:38:17
Cody Atkinson
what you can pair up with and and and have amazing storytelling with over the years and you know dom is someone that from a heel perspective like can be this generation's randy orton like how we grew up like you know what oh oh seven you know legend killer randy orton is like give me that what has dom mysterio like there's so much potential with dom mysterio in that realm and i think regardless whenever we get it it's going to be amazing because like we've already seen it for those of us that have watched the triple a stuff we've already seen it with him at the kingdom like like you know and he was a face in that because they hated kingdom so there's so much potential with dom um in the future that like he will be must see tv for me he's not in right now but he will be must see tv very soon
01:38:26
mjudd09
Yes. Yes.
01:38:31
mjudd09
Oh, give me that.
01:38:48
mjudd09
Mm-hmm.
01:38:52
mjudd09
Yes.
01:39:07
mjudd09
All right, Miz.
01:39:10
Cody Atkinson
But, like, I mean, look at the names that we didn't mention. You don't get a Gunther on this list that's must-eat TV.
01:39:15
mjudd09
Nope.
01:39:15
Cody Atkinson
Like, Miz and Kim Wilson are must-eat TV from a joke perspective with Dan Housen.
01:39:16
mjudd09
Yep.
01:39:18
mjudd09
ah They definitely want to see TV right now, especially right now.
01:39:22
Cody Atkinson
i there's so many names that are kicking around, like Zack Ryder Matt Cardona, like, whatever.
01:39:23
mjudd09
Yep.
01:39:27
mjudd09
Macronona, LA Knight, another one.
01:39:29
Cody Atkinson
i would LA Knight. I didn't mention either of the USO. There's so many names.
01:39:31
mjudd09
Yep.
01:39:32
Cody Atkinson
like If booked correctly, there's such a good time right now with WWE. Whether you get to include some AAA guys or whenever NXT call-ups happen, i it's a good time to be a wrestling fan.
01:39:41
mjudd09
Yep.
01:39:44
Cody Atkinson
and I'm very excited for this summer with SummerSlam.
01:39:45
mjudd09
Oh, that's... see
01:39:47
Cody Atkinson
i think we have some great storylines going to SummerSlam. Yeah.
01:39:49
mjudd09
Yes, yes, we sure do. We sure do. And I can't wait to see how SummerSlam pays out. And I can't wait to see what we do moving forward from there. There's a lot of talent, a lot of talent.
01:39:59
Cody Atkinson
Well, man, that wraps it up for us this week. So I want to say thank you. Appreciate you hopping on here again.
01:40:05
mjudd09
Hey, man, anytime, baby, anytime.
01:40:08
Cody Atkinson
Any last-minute notes for the fans out there before you hop off here?
01:40:13
mjudd09
Nah, man, just stay tuned. and We got some great things coming for you in near future, man. Stay tuned.
01:40:18
Cody Atkinson
Yeah. Cody will be back next week to give you guys a heads up on, on content for next week. I'm pull this list. um Next week, Cody will be back. We will do our MLB check-in for June, or we'll check in on that.
01:40:33
Cody Atkinson
And then we're going to do our top 25 Houston Texans of all time in honor of the Houston, Texas 20th season.
01:40:38
mjudd09
yes
01:40:40
Cody Atkinson
We'll be going through that a lot quicker to get to the top 10. So as soon as I have a three hour podcast so for everyone out there. um But once again, man, appreciate you hopping on here. We'll see you towards the end of July, i think is where I have you slated for.
01:40:55
Cody Atkinson
SummerSlam predictions to for the WrestleMania of the summer, as everyone kind of calls it in WWE.
01:41:00
mjudd09
yes
01:41:01
Cody Atkinson
So we'll see you then. But appreciate you. I appreciate everyone tuning in and listening. Like, comment, share. Cody, hope you're having a good time on vacation. wellll We'll hear you next week and I want to hear all about the vacation.
01:41:14
Cody Atkinson
But until then, there we go.
01:41:15
mjudd09
Drink two for me. Drink two for me.
01:41:17
Cody Atkinson
There we go. Until then, I've been Justin.
01:41:20
mjudd09
am your boy, Jetty.
01:41:22
Cody Atkinson
Peace.