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Terrifier 2 & 3 Review with Theories
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Deep dive into the kills of terrifier 2 and 3 with theories along the way!
Transcript
Podcast Setup & Movie Review Plans
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zachary smith
Alright, oh shit, we are live, or at least it's recording now.
00:00:06
Lex
Hey, yo.
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zachary smith
I know it's kind of crazy, but hey, this is something new. It's something polished. Cause I was looking at the best podcast apps for this and this was highly recommended, um, just as a starting point because all the other ones are so expensive or just harder to use.
00:00:23
zachary smith
And this has a whole overlay at, oh, just in general.
00:00:25
Lex
yeah I like you.
00:00:27
zachary smith
Um, I do too. I do too. And we can have up to 12 people. So if we have like people that we want to have discussions with, we can have them on the podcast. um So this podcast today, um since we didn't upload one or even record one for a while, um some issues but but with Lex right here.
00:00:46
Lex
Sorry. the
00:00:49
zachary smith
but So we are going to be doing the review of not only two, since we but we were going to break it up in two different um episodes but that wasn't gonna happen so we're gonna put it into one episode and then we will have a follow-up episode of what theories because that's what at least we're gonna break them up or we could just record one long podcast that one's what do you feel
00:01:14
Lex
ah Honestly just go with the flow if you feel like you know starting a new one just to do a recap of it Then we'll do it, but I feel like it's just gonna be a one-and-done kind of thing ah Something like that something like that
00:01:23
zachary smith
one and done yeah we'll just what we'll just title it terrify your theories and review of movie one and two or something like that something something okay okay okay ah let me go ahead and get terrifier two up okay
00:01:37
Lex
Wait, wait, wait, pause before Terrifier 2.
Tech Talk: Podcast Editing Software
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Lex
I just want to put a PSA out there, guys. If you see my phone shaking, y'all, it's because I'm freezing my ass off. Okay, go ahead, continue.
00:01:48
zachary smith
Yeah, and and and to any audio listeners, you won't hear you won't see it. You'll hear the wind um go back and forth. um Also with this like with this product, I forgot to tell you, Lex, it has a detection software that will actually edit the clips when we keep saying, um um um um
00:02:05
Lex
Perfect! I love that.
00:02:06
zachary smith
so it's It's going to help. I was going to talk to you about this because this is something that we might want to look into to actually upgrade in the future.
00:02:15
zachary smith
um But right now, I think this is perfectly fine because also, like I said, it helps us get it on any platform we want.
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Lex
Okay.
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Lex
like
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zachary smith
It'll also help us with um managing social media with it as
Introduction to 'Terrifier' Films
00:02:25
zachary smith
well. But what I think is a big part of it.
00:02:28
Lex
Yeah.
00:02:28
zachary smith
OK, so Carefire 2. Terrifier 1 was a build-up to the second one. Like I said, there was a two and there's two important characters if you were going to take any out of that movie. um One of them was obviously Art the Clown. And the other one, let me just pull her up one more time, of Victoria Hays. Victoria Hays was Art the Clown's last kill in the first movie, where he ripped off her face before he committed suicide.
00:03:02
zachary smith
and then you see her in a mental institution to start ah ah two start the third one, but the second one starts with, are the clown after you commit suicide? um And the rumors are that um the what happened in Terrifier 1 was within walking distance, or the tunnels are connected to the morgue. That's why he got there so quickly, and there was really no ambulance ride there. You at least don't see it.
00:03:30
Lex
Yeah.
00:03:31
zachary smith
So the first death ah was the corner.
00:03:35
Lex
Oh, yeah. to
00:03:36
zachary smith
Yeah, and that was about three minutes into the movie ah where he he got choked out. um His throat slit, his eye plucked because for some reason, I don't know why, but they had him pluck his eyeball to try to put in his hit in his own eyeball.
00:03:53
zachary smith
But I don't remember in the first movie him shooting himself in the eye.
00:03:57
Lex
I don't either.
00:03:59
zachary smith
I remember him putting a gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger.
00:04:00
Lex
No. Yeah.
00:04:02
zachary smith
So I don't know where this eye came from because it was prominent at least a lot in the second movie. um And then right after he plucked his eyeball and you hear the coroner scream bloody freaking murder, he hit he pulverizes his head.
00:04:17
zachary smith
Corner dead.
00:04:18
Lex
Just rips it just rips into that shit like a new pair of shoes Yeah
00:04:19
zachary smith
so
00:04:22
zachary smith
Exactly. and And it was one of the most gory scenes ah to open a movie until Terrifier 3.
Exploring 'Terrifier 2': Key Scenes & Art's Murders
00:04:34
Lex
yeah doesn
00:04:35
zachary smith
ah still So after that, you see art the clown walk into a laundromat where it looks like he is going to be trying to clean, at least clean up.
00:04:47
zachary smith
So he it doesn't look like he's all bloody. um and he sees so And if you notice, right when he walks in, you see a guy sleeping.
00:04:56
Lex
Yeah.
00:04:57
zachary smith
And that's his second victim in this, where you don't see him actually killing him, but after he has the first confrontation with the little pale girl, they like calling her in this,
00:05:09
Lex
yeah
00:05:11
zachary smith
um which I think is crazy because obviously you can see his eyeballs gone, he's bleeding refusively, and then all of a sudden you see this little girl. And the first thing the little girl does is she laughs and then all of a sudden just blood just oozes out. It's like, what in the fuck just happened?
00:05:29
Lex
right like uh okay looks like you're good on your iron deficiency
00:05:34
zachary smith
Absolutely. And it wasn't an iron deficiency. You'll notice it was like clotting, like it was like, Oh, it was it was just you grotesque. like This is why they were telling a people that they would some people would rush out of the theater because of some of these deaths. So after art cleans his his ah suit, and you see him using a hanger to pull up a zipper on his clown suit.
00:06:02
zachary smith
he walks he it looks You could see him mopping up and then leaving. right When he's leaving, you see a spike through the dude's skull, the rest of the broom handle.
00:06:13
Lex
Yeah.
00:06:14
zachary smith
And it's just like a faucet going blood all over the place. It's insane. um And then you'll meet cnsage you Saash. Sienna, you meet her brother and her mom.
00:06:27
Lex
yeah
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zachary smith
And throughout the whole process, you learn and I'm going to kind of cut back and forth to what everything is happening because it's it's it's a very, very long movie. It's probably one of the longer horror movies to date.
00:06:38
zachary smith
um You see Sienna trying to make a costume that her father drew for her um and she's making it with real feathers.
00:06:51
Lex
Yeah.
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zachary smith
And her brother asks um if she can help him.
00:06:58
zachary smith
And I'm going to cut um to this part because it's kind of a continuation because during dinner he wants, he told his mom he wanted to be the um the killer clown.
00:07:07
Lex
are Yeah.
00:07:10
zachary smith
Yeah. And she flips out at him. She helped him glue the the hat together and he said, I won't paint my face. um Then you see her go to sleep.
00:07:22
zachary smith
And this is where the crazy shit happens.
00:07:25
Lex
Yeah.
00:07:26
zachary smith
So the first dream she had, um she has a dream of the clown cafe.
00:07:26
Lex
and
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zachary smith
um Fun fact about the clown cafe, since we're also this is also a theory episode and also ah ah a Terrifier 3 review is the clown cafe, the person that's singing in the clown cafe is actually the nurse at the end of this movie. She's the nurse in the psych ward.
00:07:55
Lex
Oh, the one that gets murked?
00:07:57
zachary smith
Yes, same girl. And she's also the same girl if you ever listen to the song The Art of Dying. um It's by Ice Nine Kills and it's about Terrifier. She is also has a part in that song.
00:08:12
Lex
Oh, really?
00:08:13
zachary smith
yes so she just has a huge part of this so in the clown cafe um you see them singing the clown cafe song all jittery and they're like hey we got a we got a special guest we have art the clown and sienna's face goes pale like she doesn't know what to do at that point so She freaks out.
00:08:33
zachary smith
Art's giving presents to everybody, giving somebody popcorn, some caramel apple, some candy. And you can see the kids eating it. And on Sienna's end, you see them just ripping their mouths apart and everything.
00:08:46
zachary smith
But on the other end, they're just eating.
00:08:48
Lex
Yeah.
00:08:49
zachary smith
And then then Art the Clown gives her a special box. When she opens the box, it's a heart.
00:08:56
Lex
A beating heart at that.
00:08:58
zachary smith
ah meeting a heart. Then art goes to his bag, which I already predicted in the first episode, um, that weighs thousands of thousands of pounds because at this point art the clown is a demon because he didn't die in the first one and he came back in the second one.
00:09:16
zachary smith
So he pulls out a Tommy gun and starts going ham on everybody in that place.
00:09:16
Lex
Yep.
00:09:23
zachary smith
14 different people died in that scene.
00:09:25
Lex
Right, let's talk about seeing that scene. That motherfucking let it rain like half these kids in the fucking school shootings. That shit was crazy.
00:09:31
zachary smith
oh Oh, absolutely. And obviously guys, we don't condone school shootings at all. um That's a problem in this country. Lex, don't even.
00:09:42
Lex
Yeah.
00:09:42
zachary smith
Lex is being twisted because that's how Lex is.
00:09:43
Lex
but Yeah.
00:09:46
zachary smith
But it's it's not, it's bad enough with all these school shootings, but this was not the craziest scene I've ever seen in Terrifier because one that we will review in Terrifier 3 is even nuttier.
Controversy & Audience Reactions
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Lex
yeah
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zachary smith
Which actually, I think Terrifier 3 completely rewritten horror because in the first one you see a girl getting sought from her vagina all the way down to her head and ripped apart.
00:10:04
Lex
Yeah.
00:10:15
Lex
like a chicken.
00:10:16
zachary smith
Rifted part! You wouldn't do that in any kind of horror movie. What in the fuck was that?
00:10:29
Lex
We got it worse than a turkey on Thanksgiving Day, y'all. That was terrible.
00:10:33
zachary smith
it was terrible and andan so in the clown cafe so 14 people died by bullets right and then the singer that's also the nurse at the end of the movie instead of him killing her with the comic gun because he ran out of ammo he goes and gets a fucking flamethrower and lights this bitch on fire and the crazy thing is
00:10:41
Lex
Yeah.
00:10:52
Lex
It lights that bitch on fire.
00:10:58
zachary smith
She fucking stings during it. She's playing her to guitar when she's fucking on fire. So does it doesn't kill her instantly. It takes it at a minute to actually kill her. um And then you also see a one of the Patreons getting their hand cut off and ble bleeding out. And he's doing that with some crazy inventions. Because like I was saying, he has the most unique killing thing. He kills things with the most unique things, like we'll review in the third one.
00:11:28
zachary smith
It's insane.
00:11:30
Lex
yeah
00:11:30
zachary smith
And in this one too, even in this one, towards the end of the movie, he uses a fucking chair leg or a table leg that has silverware attached to it. Like what in the fuck? It's not just knives, guys.
00:11:40
Lex
ah
00:11:41
zachary smith
It's not just knives. It's spoons and forks as well.
00:11:44
Lex
He thinks that's Fox.
00:11:44
zachary smith
its come
00:11:46
Lex
He does. I'll give him that.
00:11:47
zachary smith
yeah
00:11:47
Lex
Points it's for creativity.
00:11:49
zachary smith
Exactly, especially in this movie what we're gonna be reviewing and there's so many gory details in this movie It is insane. I guarantee a majority of their budget is for fake blood Absolutely, and it wasn't um it wasn't the only person he set on fire Also, there was another person she set on fire during it before he got to Santa and obviously when he tried to hit sienna She pulled out a sword
00:12:00
Lex
A hundred percent it has to be because of how much blood they fucking use in every fucking like every movie is crazy.
00:12:19
Lex
Yeah.
00:12:19
zachary smith
The sword that's going to be very pivotal in both this movie and in Terrifier 3 and beyond, honestly, where she holds it and it burns and it kind of reminded me of an homage to Nightmare on Elm Street because when she did that it went out of her dream and it burned her room.
00:12:26
Lex
Yeah.
00:12:37
Lex
yeah It caught her room on fire.
00:12:42
zachary smith
it caught her room on fire. But there was one scene in this, in the clown cafe, we cannot, um we can't look past. The kid that was eating cereal, because how he died, he was eating broken glass.
00:12:54
Lex
Mm-hmm Yep Yeah From eating glass?
00:13:01
zachary smith
Tell me Lex, when in a movie history have you ever seen, cause you like horror just like me, when in any movie have you seen somebody That's a kid die. Just in general, like most of the time you don't see the kids actually physically die.
00:13:21
Lex
You just see them get hurt or they fall or they're scared. You don't really see them just brutally like mutilated at all.
00:13:27
zachary smith
Exactly. And this is why a lot of people think this is why a lot of people left the theaters during the second and third one.
Podcasting Insights & 'Terrifier' Experiences
00:13:36
Lex
and Because kids were actually getting brutally fucking hurt.
00:13:39
zachary smith
Yeah, he does not discriminate. he does he's not He does not give a fuck.
00:13:45
Lex
Nope, not at all.
00:13:47
zachary smith
And absolutely.
00:13:47
Lex
That's a demon for you. Hello.
00:13:51
zachary smith
And let's let's go back into it. So after she blocks the fire, her burn her room burns down. Her mom gets pissed off saying, oh, why the fuck did you um fall asleep with the candles burning? And they weren't burning.
00:14:07
zachary smith
um And I think this is where this is where the low budget hits because all three of them were running around with their head cut off And that's the only grave I have at this beginning of this movie because you're like guys it's a fucking fire throw something at it What are you doing?
00:14:15
Lex
Yeah.
00:14:24
Lex
i i think I think when she got the fire extinguisher and everything, she was just trying to find a logical like explanation just as to why the fire was. Because, you know, they they explain her story later on in the movie, but it's just... it this is why you guys ah like Listen, this is a message to all of you. This is why y'all should listen to y'all kids. Not every time are your kids go lying to you, we're making shit up.
00:14:50
zachary smith
No, and this is a very common trope or a common ah background of a horror movie, is the kids, just like in Nightmare on Elm Street, just like in a bunch of other movies where the kids warn the parents, hey, this is happening.
00:14:55
Lex
Yeah.
00:15:02
zachary smith
But the parents are stupidew too stupid to realize that that's actually happening.
00:15:08
Lex
Yep.
00:15:08
zachary smith
Honestly, I think that's a good reason because at the end of the day, if the kid if the adults caught on so quick, then they would have been stopped.
00:15:16
Lex
Yeah.
00:15:17
zachary smith
And it wouldn't have been a horror movie.
00:15:17
Lex
Right.
00:15:21
zachary smith
Fast forward, so there's a lot of filler because it's just telling the story of how Sienna and Jonathan and her their mom are. You see Sienna going to school.
00:15:31
zachary smith
You see Jonathan going to school. You see Jonathan actually having issues where he sees, where um during recess, um him and two other kids are behind a dumpster and find a, um what are they called?
00:15:45
Lex
That a possum?
00:15:46
zachary smith
Possum.
00:15:48
Lex
and
00:15:49
zachary smith
they a dead possum and they bring a girl over and they pull it open and their maggots everywhere.
00:15:55
Lex
Yeah.
00:15:55
zachary smith
Brutal! This is why I'm saying this is a brutal movie because you don't usually see dead animals like this.
00:16:01
Lex
Nope.
00:16:02
zachary smith
and it And the girl screams and the possum is is um important because after um Jonathan's having issues with this test, he asks to use the restroom.
00:16:16
zachary smith
He gets up and there's what all of us do when we were in high school. He gets up, he goes and has a drink out of the fountain and walks around as long as you can.
00:16:24
Lex
Yep. Yeah.
00:16:26
zachary smith
But then he sees the little girl, the little pale girl, runny. So he turns the corner and he sees Art the Clown and the little pale girl playing with the dead possum in the school hallway and then they throw the possum at him.
00:16:36
Lex
In the school fucking hallway. Yep. Scared him so bad he ran back to class. He was hyperventilating and shit.
00:16:47
zachary smith
Yeah, but he didn't run back to class what he did. He was running with the possum and when he saw a teacher told him to stop, he threw the possum at her.
00:16:56
Lex
Oh, that's right. He did. He did.
00:16:57
zachary smith
Did. And that was brutal because it made him get suspended. But it was kind of a weird suspension because you don't see them in school after this point.
00:17:13
Lex
Nope.
00:17:14
zachary smith
So after this point, you see Sienna talking to her friends and they're like, hey, are we still going to the Halloween party? I'll I'll drive so we can drink or whatever. And then she's like, I need to find another costume or go to the Halloween store because there was a fire.
00:17:33
Lex
And it burned her angel wings that she was trying to wear with her outfit.
00:17:37
zachary smith
Exactly. And this is where one of the most brutal deaths I think in this film happens.
00:17:42
Lex
Oh yeah.
00:17:43
zachary smith
Firstly, you see Sienna shopping for wings and her and her friend, Allie, sees Art the Clown in the Halloween store.
00:17:54
zachary smith
They get freaked out. It's a homage to the first movie of the piece of scene where both the girls are freaked out.
00:17:58
Lex
Right.
00:18:01
zachary smith
One of them's talking or an Allie's talking to the Art the Clown.
00:18:04
Lex
yeah
00:18:06
zachary smith
um And then you see um Sienna go upstairs to pay for the wings and her alley already left because her mom called her. um and you And this is where it's kind of funny because she's buying the wings, she forgot her purse downstairs because they were trying on costumes.
00:18:19
Lex
Yeah.
00:18:23
zachary smith
Art comes up and throws a purse at the dude, the bag.
00:18:26
Lex
so Yep.
00:18:28
zachary smith
And he gives him like a weird look and the dude's like, what the hell? And then Art goes to the sunglasses.
00:18:34
Lex
yeah Yeah, the sunglasses part was my favorite.
00:18:37
zachary smith
This is why I brought it up because that's also my favorite part. And also I have stickers. I don't even know where they are. Oh actually it's right here.
00:18:44
Lex
Oh, is that one of your favorite scenes? I know this is kind of off topic, but the reason why I said, is that one of your favorite? Like, okay, because that image is on your hoodie.
00:18:54
zachary smith
Is it really?
00:18:54
Lex
Yeah, it's part of the hoodie.
00:18:56
zachary smith
Oh shit!
00:18:57
Lex
Yeah.
00:18:58
zachary smith
And I have another art that clown sticker. um And it's if you notice this one, this one is from the painting in the clown cafe.
00:19:07
Lex
Oh, it is off the... It's even on the side truck. The the truck...
00:19:11
zachary smith
It is.
00:19:12
Lex
Yeah.
00:19:12
zachary smith
It is. um I got those at Hot Topic because up by me, there is a out of the mall Hot Topic.
00:19:19
Lex
Is there really?
00:19:20
zachary smith
Yes, it's huge.
00:19:22
Lex
Oh my god!
00:19:23
zachary smith
It's massive. Yeah. So when you come down here, I'll obviously take you to it because it's fucking cool. Like that whole entire area up the street for me is it's nice.
00:19:33
zachary smith
Like there's a bunch. It's it's like an outlet mall. There's like a theater. There's a bunch of places to eat. There's a hot topic, there's everything. And it's a rich part. So it's not any scummy stores.
00:19:44
zachary smith
It's fuck, it's nice.
Deep Dive into 'Terrifier 2'
00:19:46
Lex
Okay.
00:19:46
zachary smith
Anywho, then but after we see um him in the glasses, one of our favorite parts of the movie, cause he and it's not the glasses that have the red, it's the sunflower glasses.
00:19:54
Lex
Yeah.
00:20:01
Lex
Yeah.
00:20:02
zachary smith
um Then he comes up to the counter because Sienna gets scared and she just buys it and takes off.
00:20:09
Lex
Yeah.
00:20:10
zachary smith
And then we have Art the Clown talking to Rick the Shop Clerk, or Ricky.
00:20:12
Lex
Yep.
00:20:17
zachary smith
And Ricky tells him, are you gonna buy anything? And Art is in his bag, and he gets scared. And you can tell Ricky gets scared. And then he pulls out a um a horn, the clown horns.
00:20:30
Lex
Yes, the clown horn.
00:20:33
zachary smith
And then he buys a clown horn, but As soon as he does, he reaches back into his bag and smashes Ricky with a bottle.
00:20:40
Lex
Yep, he did.
00:20:41
zachary smith
He fucks his shit up. Like, fucks him up. And then he stabs in the fucking eye!
00:20:49
Lex
Right, right in the cornea.
00:20:49
zachary smith
With scissors! but
00:20:53
zachary smith
Jesus Christ! And that's not the worst part. He's brutalizing him and then he squeamers him in the fucking head.
00:21:02
Lex
but That was crazy.
00:21:02
zachary smith
Blood going everywhere!
00:21:08
zachary smith
It was insane, and then he decapitates him for a specific reason. Because later in the scene, you see two people trying to do Last Man on Halloween shopping, but Art locks the door.
00:21:21
Lex
Yeah.
00:21:22
zachary smith
And the door was locked, and the kid's like, oh cool, look at that display. And you see Art the Clown holding Ricky's head, bloody head. But this is what this is why I like Terrifier and I also think it's really cheesy.
00:21:35
zachary smith
His head wasn't even damaged.
00:21:37
Lex
Nope.
00:21:39
zachary smith
There is no stab in the eye. There's no cleaver to the head. And this is a real, and I'm telling you this because later in the movie, he does the same thing, but different.
00:21:49
Lex
Yeah.
00:21:51
zachary smith
So after this, you see Sienna go home and then her mom gets mad because she thinks she's going to be drinking because she's going with Ally and ah Brooke.
00:22:02
Lex
Yeah.
00:22:02
zachary smith
Her mom doesn't like Brooke um because Brooke is a bad influence.
00:22:07
Lex
but Yeah.
00:22:09
zachary smith
um so when ah she gets off she I believe, if I remember correctly, she's on the phone with Allie and then she gets off and Allie goes and checks the door for trick-or-treaters. She gives out candy to some trick-or-treaters, tell them to have a good, safe night, close the door, and when she was going back upstairs, she hears another ring and a knock, and there's Art the Clown.
00:22:32
Lex
Mm hmm.
00:22:33
zachary smith
and she's like oh you're too you're too big to be tragic trick-or-treating and she gets mad at him closes the door because she's free she's getting freaked out yes and she does on the first try it was on the second time she opened the door because she's like what do you want me to give you a candy she throws the candy at him and then she looks down into his back
00:22:42
Lex
Because she recognizes him from the Halloween store from earlier. Yep.
00:22:57
zachary smith
And that's where he, she sees all the rusty, all the rusty tools he uses. And then she looks up and he's giving her a grin.
00:23:08
Lex
Yep.
00:23:08
zachary smith
Then she slams the door, goes upstairs. And this is where the craziness happens.
00:23:14
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:23:17
zachary smith
This is by far one of the most gory scenes in movie history, I believe.
00:23:23
Lex
Oh, yeah. but Without a doubt.
00:23:26
zachary smith
it's It's hard to describe everything he does, but he completely rips her apart.
00:23:29
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:23:34
Lex
Yeah.
00:23:35
zachary smith
He rips her hand in two. He rips her scalp off.
00:23:39
Lex
He scalps her. He literally scalps her.
00:23:42
zachary smith
He scalps her. He cuts off her arm. He slashes her thousands of times. And when she's crawling, he rips her face off. And it's he's not done.
00:23:53
Lex
Nope.
00:23:54
zachary smith
You see him leave the room. And then she's she's about ready to grab the phone, because Sienna's calling.
00:23:58
Lex
Yep.
00:24:02
zachary smith
He comes back, dumps bleach on her, and then rubs salt all over her.
00:24:10
Lex
thank Nope.
00:24:11
zachary smith
You think she's dead?
00:24:13
Lex
She ate.
00:24:14
zachary smith
She ain't. Because about four minutes later, after Sienna couldn't get a hold of her friend, it cuts back to Allie's mom. Wondering why their glass is broken because the sliding glass door was broken So she runs upstairs to Ali's room because Ali is not answering her mother Then she sees her in bed with art the clown and art the clowns playing with her intestines And it's not censored it's not censored it's not Him like you see his hand in her stomach.
00:24:34
Lex
Nope. Yep, just playing with. Not.
00:24:48
zachary smith
It's he's literally like pulling up her as a fucking puppet and
00:24:52
Lex
Yeah.
00:24:55
zachary smith
And she's still bleeding.
00:24:55
Lex
and
00:24:58
Lex
Yeah, I think the most traumatic part out of that scene is when the mother walks into the room while he's playing with her intestines. All you can hear Ali say is, mom, like barely, barely.
00:25:08
zachary smith
Yep.
00:25:10
Lex
And the mom is just like locked on the whole scene, doesn't move, doesn't scream, doesn't anything. ah For a couple seconds, then she starts screaming, panicking.
00:25:19
zachary smith
absolutely and then as soon as that happens you don't see it but her mom gets decapitated because at the at the next scene you see hit um him answering the door giving candy to kids and the kids kids are like oh cool bucket oh this is all slimy he was giving kids candy out of Ali mom's decapitated head
00:25:27
Lex
Yeah.
00:25:46
Lex
He literally cut open her skull, scooped that shit out, added fucking candy to it, and used it as a trick-or-treat bowl.
00:25:55
zachary smith
Yeah, and it's not like it was... No, I guess it was full of candy because he doesn't put the the top of the head back together. He just throws it away. He like throws it to the side.
00:26:02
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:04
zachary smith
um And honestly, this killing doesn't stop there. This is the nice thing about the movie towards this point is the killing ramps up quickly.
00:26:14
Lex
Yes, it does. It gets fast.
00:26:16
zachary smith
Because after this, you see Sienna going to the party.
00:26:21
Lex
Yep.
00:26:21
zachary smith
And you see Sienna's mom, Barbara, trying to ask where Jonathan is because Jonathan got home. The school called and told his mom what he did.
00:26:34
zachary smith
He was playing with the possum.
00:26:34
Lex
Yeah.
00:26:35
zachary smith
He threw it at her teacher. It was dead, blah, blah, blah, blah. So she grounds him. Well, see she then he runs up to his room. She's yelling. Then she goes out to check her.
00:26:46
zachary smith
I don't know why she went out of the car. I think she heard something. I don't know specifically.
00:26:49
Lex
yeah yeah I think you may have heard a noise.
00:26:52
zachary smith
and her car is trashed.
00:26:55
Lex
Yep.
00:26:56
zachary smith
Shaving cream, eggs, toilet paper, and she thinks it's Jonathan.
00:26:59
Lex
Yep.
00:27:01
zachary smith
So she's trying she grabs a sponge, starts hit like cleaning the fender, goes to the driver's side window, wipes it, or the clown's there with a shotgun to the face, BAM!
00:27:15
Lex
yep
00:27:16
zachary smith
blown off and it was the most brutal because it's the it's the most realistic way because when it when you get hit with a shotgun in the head like that, that's what it looks like.
00:27:26
Lex
yeah that yeah that shit was gone that shit was a blip so yeah that that was personal i think that was very personal to be honest
00:27:27
zachary smith
It's not like you got a small gash in your head or like a slug where it just blows the outside of the other hand part of your head. Her head was not existed.
00:27:43
zachary smith
It was gone.
00:27:48
zachary smith
it was you It was very personal. um And then it cuts to Sienna with Brooke and Jeff, because Jeff is Brooke's boyfriend. And they're all at the school dance, and and then all of a sudden, Jonathan calls Sienna.
00:28:14
Lex
Yup.
00:28:14
zachary smith
and asked, hey, I'm in trouble, I'm at the at the carnival.
00:28:19
Lex
The old carnival.
00:28:20
zachary smith
And she's like, why what are you doing over there? she's ah He's like, help me, I'm in trouble, please. And it cuts to the scene where it's not Jonathan calling her, it is the little pale girl.
00:28:31
Lex
Amitating Jonathan's voice, trying to lure her there.
00:28:36
zachary smith
Yeah, the little pale girl's calling her. um Lex, did your audio go out?
00:28:43
Lex
No?
00:28:44
zachary smith
Oh, okay. um So in this, um
00:28:53
zachary smith
they're driving to the the carnival. They get out. She's like, go get Jonathan. We'll be here waiting. So you see Sienna going into the old clown ride.
00:29:07
Lex
Yeah.
00:29:08
zachary smith
And then you see Brooke and Jeff making out and then Jeff wants to do more. He's like, I gotta pee. She's like, okay.
00:29:16
Lex
Wait, wait, before we get to this, let me point out what Jeff is wearing. He's wearing a Halloween shirt that says just the tip, okay guys? So before we get more into this scene, that you guys can understand that. He's wearing a shirt that says just the tip. Continue on, Zach.
00:29:32
zachary smith
yes he Yes, yes, yes. And it's funny because this is the second, and we'll review it in the third one.
Climactic Battles & Theories for 'Terrifier 2'
00:29:43
zachary smith
so in a little bit but this second dude that was trying to get some action or in the moment of action where he gets fucking brutalized because what happens to him he gets stabbed in the just once he continuously I'm pretty sure like 10 or 15 times in the dick
00:29:44
Lex
yeah
00:29:51
Lex
Yeah. yeah
00:29:58
Lex
He can't literally- he finished his pissing and all you have to see is Art the Clown just stabbing him right in the dick. Just- ye
00:30:12
zachary smith
castrates him and that's how he dies.
00:30:15
Lex
Yep. He pulled out his whole testicles!
00:30:17
zachary smith
Then you see everything is nuts.
00:30:19
Lex
He pulled out his whole testicles!
00:30:25
zachary smith
And after that, you're like, oh, this can't get any worse. ha ha ha Yes, it can.
00:30:31
Lex
the
00:30:32
zachary smith
You thought that was brutal. Then you see Brooke running through the the the the um clown ride. For some reason, the clown ride had a fucking bathroom.
00:30:46
Lex
Yeah, that was weird. That was awful.
00:30:47
zachary smith
That was weird.
00:30:49
Lex
I was like, who?
00:30:49
zachary smith
So she runs into the bathroom because Art's chasing her. and she's yelling oh my god no please don't don't and he he basically has his hands behind his back and then a quick glimpse you see he has sulfuric acid or I think that's what it's called yeah so he gets close enough to her he opens the jar and splashes it all over her fucking face and then
00:31:07
Lex
Something like, it's acid that burn that melts through your skin to bone.
00:31:17
Lex
yep
00:31:22
zachary smith
He breaks her limbs, breaks her chest with a, like I was saying earlier in the podcast, with a fucking chair leg or a table leg that that was but had knives, spoons, and forks lodged into it.
00:31:34
Lex
but ah and
00:31:43
Lex
yep sheesh i remember that part i remember that but
00:31:45
zachary smith
but and yeah And at the end, to make it even more brutal after he breaks her chest, he pulls out her beaten beating heart and takes a bite out of it.
00:31:56
Lex
yeah that was oh thank thank you yes oh go ahead zach go ahead gotta
00:32:03
zachary smith
No worries, no worries. um So i'm go I'm going to cut to this.
00:32:07
Lex
love go ahead can
00:32:11
zachary smith
um So Sienna's dad, his name is Matt Michael Shaw, So in the film, or before the film, you learn that he, I don't know if you realized it, but he actually burned to death in a car crash.
00:32:26
Lex
Yes, yes, because it was explained in the movie how he he died.
00:32:30
zachary smith
Yeah. um And they believe it could have also been Art the Clown. But after Brooke's death, it was in a huge fight sequence between Jonathan Art the Clown and Sienna Shaw.
00:32:46
zachary smith
where Sienna and and and Jonathan are beating his ass, and then Sienna tries to stab him with the sword. Doesn't work, he throws her, basically chokes her out. She's almost dead. He throws her, um the set breaks, she goes into this hole.
00:33:09
zachary smith
and he's tormenting Jonathan.
00:33:13
zachary smith
Sienna is down in the hole and all of a sudden art pops up, stabs her with the sword in the stomach.
00:33:21
Lex
Yep.
00:33:22
zachary smith
And then she falls into this portal. The portal is is um important because it also happens in the third movie, but to somebody else.
00:33:32
Lex
yeah
00:33:33
zachary smith
She falls in this portal and she's about to die and she wakes up in the clown cafe in a tank of water.
00:33:43
Lex
Kind of like the tank of water you see like a magician would use to like shackle themselves to unshackle themselves underwater kind of thing to do like a magician kind of trick. But she's stuck in the tank itself. She can't get out.
00:33:57
zachary smith
Yeah, and you see her, she's trying to get out, but then this random tentacle comes up and grabs her leg.
00:34:03
Lex
Mm hmm.
00:34:04
zachary smith
And then you see her do the puppetations and then she looks like she's dead.
00:34:08
Lex
Like she drowned.
00:34:10
zachary smith
She drowned. Then it cuts up to Jonathan. He is slowly waking up because something is gnawing at his foot.
00:34:16
Lex
Yep.
00:34:18
zachary smith
And Art the Clown is actively trying to eat his foot.
00:34:21
Lex
yep Yep. Nipple on it.
00:34:23
zachary smith
So he screams.
00:34:24
Lex
Dude.
00:34:26
zachary smith
Yeah, and he's so he's screaming, yelling for Siena, and as soon as he said his sister's name, Siena wakes up with a light in her stomach. It fuels the wound, and she gets her sword somehow and cuts the tentacle, and swims up to the top, and she's back where art the clown and her brother is.
00:34:47
zachary smith
Then she's attacking Art the Clown, stabs him, and chops at his throat because the for some reason the sword's not as dull but not sharp, keeps chopping at his head like it's a chainsaw, and decapitates Art the Clown.
00:35:04
Lex
Mm-hmm Yep,
00:35:10
zachary smith
Everybody thinks that's the end of Terrifier. And honestly, they could have stopped right there.
00:35:15
Lex
they could have
00:35:15
zachary smith
If they really wanted to, they did they could have. But then it cuts to Sienna and Jonathan leaving. And this is important because if they didn't leave at that point, the third one wouldn't exist because they're both going to therapy in the third one.
00:35:30
Lex
right yeah
00:35:31
zachary smith
Between the actions of the two and three, you see the you don't see them, but they do therapy. Jonathan goes to college. Sienna's in a mental hospital. um Cutting to the end of the film and where the credits of the second one runs, you see a mental hospital. And you see, I'm not going to use his his um name in the movie because it doesn't show his name in the movie, Chris Jericho and the girl that plays the clown cafe worker talking.
00:36:03
zachary smith
He wants some brains. She gives him brains that his wife made him. It was like jellied brains and a pastry or whatever.
00:36:09
Lex
it was It was a Halloween themed treat kind of thing, so it looked like brains.
00:36:13
zachary smith
Yeah, so she was running. She was making her round and she comes across Victoria Hayes' room screaming.
00:36:25
Lex
Yep.
00:36:25
zachary smith
She checks on Victoria Hayes. Victoria Hayes has given birth.
00:36:30
Lex
Yep.
00:36:31
zachary smith
Not to a baby.
00:36:32
Lex
Nope.
00:36:34
zachary smith
to art the clown's head.
00:36:36
Lex
because his head was just decapitated.
00:36:40
zachary smith
Yeah, so the reason why she has the head and why this, I'm gonna go into another theory, is the small pale girl the in the second one, she disappears with this head at the end of the movie before the mental hospital scene.
00:36:54
Lex
Yep.
00:36:55
zachary smith
What I think happens is because that little girl's a demon, she went to Victoria's body.
00:36:57
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:37:03
Lex
Right.
00:37:04
zachary smith
with the head.
00:37:05
Lex
Oh, okay. And that's why she gave birth to Arthur Cloud's head. That's actually good.
00:37:10
zachary smith
yeah Yeah, and that's why Victoria is now the the um host and also the um come i guess co in the next one or partner of Art the Clown.
00:37:17
Lex
Post.
00:37:28
Lex
Yep.
00:37:30
zachary smith
and you don't see what happens but then you see the nurse freaking out you see Chris Jericho grabbing a walkie-talkie and running to the room telling somebody over the walkie-talkie hey get over here there's an issue in Victoria's room and he's like hey I'm on the shitter he's like I don't care what the fuck you're doing get your ass down here then he turns the corner goes in the room and he sees Art the clown and Victoria eating the nurse just eating her
00:37:37
Lex
Right.
00:37:47
Lex
and
00:37:55
Lex
The nurse. Just eating her.
00:38:01
zachary smith
Okay, Terrifier 2 was an incredible movie in the aspect of storytelling, I believe.
00:38:12
zachary smith
Because it tells Sienna's story not fully, not to the extent that you think it would be, but full full enough where you get an idea of who she is, who Jonathan is, you get in more of a background in Octoclamble just a little bit, and you see the return of Victoria Hayes.
00:38:12
Lex
Oh, yeah.
00:38:27
Lex
Yeah.
00:38:31
zachary smith
Um, then during the scene, then where he jumped to the third one.
00:38:38
Lex
Yep.
00:38:39
zachary smith
And by the way, Terrifier 2, I'd probably give it one of the better ratings. I'd probably give it an 8.5 out of 10.
00:38:46
Lex
Okay. And why is that? Just because of the storytelling or the background or what?
00:38:51
zachary smith
That and how good of a performance Sienna, Jonathan, and Art the Clown did.
00:38:56
Lex
Um, I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm gonna... I'm gonna disagree with you on this. I would give the rating a 6. The only reason why is I'm not... I'm probably gonna get hate for this. I'm not really a big Sienna fan.
00:39:08
Lex
I feel like she gives me Kirsten Stewart vibes.
00:39:12
zachary smith
You think she's giving you Kristen Stewart vibes?
00:39:15
Lex
Yes. Yes, all the the the the mundane look, the foreshadowing of like just just always despair.
00:39:18
zachary smith
um
00:39:24
Lex
It's never a good thing. it it just I get it. It's a horror film, but like I want to feel more of her personality, not her just being anxious all the day of time.
00:39:29
zachary smith
Oh, absolutely. And I think the more of the personality comes out in the third movie.
00:39:40
Lex
It does. It does.
00:39:42
zachary smith
um Um... Jonathan, he was more inexistent in this movie. He was more obsessed with Art the Clown than anything.
00:39:48
Lex
He was just, yeah, but in the third movie, Jonathan's just there because he was the only one besides Sienna that was there that experienced it.
00:39:57
zachary smith
Yeah, and the reason why I got such a high rating is because of...
'Terrifier 3' Opening & Initial Reactions
00:40:02
zachary smith
Sienna was a mouthpiece of this movie. She was a big part of this movie mouthpiece-wise.
00:40:07
zachary smith
She basically
00:40:07
Lex
but she was
00:40:09
Lex
she She was, but she was intentionally put as the main character. You know what I mean? So when you're a main character, you're of course going to get the spot license and ah spotlight and seen as a mouthpiece.
00:40:19
Lex
I think i that that's why I said, I mean, you disagree. I mean, it's okay to disagree. I'm just saying.
00:40:24
zachary smith
Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:40:26
Lex
It's just for me personally, I don't think she should have been the main character. I think the main character should have been more on Victoria.
00:40:36
zachary smith
Um, I disagree on that one because what but what happened with Victoria, she was a victim.
00:40:42
Lex
Yeah, and so is Sienna. She didn't choose her fate. She didn't choose to be here. She didn't choose to be the one to have the sword and have the this destiny, this prophecy to be fulfilled that she'd be the one to stop Art the Clown.
00:40:46
zachary smith
Yes.
00:40:56
zachary smith
Oh, absolutely. But Victoria also has that victim. um She basically goes into the third one um a lot more. And also it's in the first at the beginning of the first movie.
00:41:09
Lex
I know the sister of Tara at that point, though.
00:41:09
zachary smith
um No, I know. But she has victim.
00:41:13
Lex
She doesn't have survivor's guilt.
00:41:15
zachary smith
ah What is it called when you survive something and you think it should have been you? Yeah, she has survivor's guilt, but she also has a twisted fascination and love for Art the Clown.
00:41:28
Lex
That's because he's a demon has her possessed, not because she has an actual liking to him. And if you listen to the movie, they go into depth about how she's the host and you even hear her say to the nurse before they even eat her, he's making me do it.
00:41:43
zachary smith
Oh, I know. And it it's because the pale little girl took over her body. The thing that really doesn't say much in the movie, what's the theory is you could tell who the host is with their eyes.
00:41:58
Lex
Yes, and when their eyes are a bright yellow, I think.
00:42:00
zachary smith
Yes.
00:42:01
Lex
Okay.
00:42:02
zachary smith
Because what they think is They think that some of the rumors, and this is before we go to the third one because we're trying to make it a little bit longer than our last one and we're we're about where we want to be.
00:42:16
zachary smith
and We about have about 18 minutes left and we can just go to the third one because we already made a lot of the theories already known.
00:42:22
Lex
Right.
00:42:23
zachary smith
The theories are that Yeah they jump host to host but they think anybody that comes in contact with Art the Clown has a piece of that of that of the yellow eyes like that he can control anybody he came in contact that survived.
00:42:39
Lex
Right. Okay.
00:42:41
zachary smith
um
00:42:41
Lex
I see that.
00:42:43
zachary smith
So the third one happens. Okay, so we'll go into the third one. So before the film even happens, off screen, and this is gonna be important because it it ties to somebody's backstory, Smokey from the bar, you hear that his wife died before the events of the film off screen. It wasn't shown, but it was mentioned. And then the first, the the it doesn't start like it did in the second one, at least at first.
00:43:13
Lex
Mhm.
00:43:14
zachary smith
So the opening act was you see a, a little girl running into her in her parents' room and saying, Hey, I hear footsteps on outside.
00:43:26
zachary smith
Her mom's like, Oh, it's nothing. Go back to sleep. She's like, Oh, I think it's Santa Claus.
00:43:33
Lex
Yeah.
00:43:33
zachary smith
She said, go back to sleep. so And then she tells her daughter to go back. So her daughter goes back in her room, goes to sleep. And then she hears the door open.
00:43:47
zachary smith
And she hears Art the Clown. She sees him, but she doesn't know. She thinks it's Santa because Art the Clown is dressed as Santa Claus.
00:43:55
Lex
Yep.
00:43:57
zachary smith
um And you see him with his trusty trash bag.
00:44:01
Lex
Love that one.
00:44:03
zachary smith
Putting presents under the tree.
00:44:06
Lex
Yep.
00:44:06
zachary smith
Foreshadowing what the presents have in it later in the movie.
00:44:09
Lex
Mmhmm.
00:44:12
zachary smith
um But then when he turns around, he has an axe in his hand. The girl gets terrified. The little girl gets terrified, goes and tells her brother, hey, Santa's here, gets freaked out, goes and hides.
00:44:26
Lex
Mm.
00:44:29
zachary smith
So you see Art go up the stairs and you can see the little girl at the base of the stairs looking up at Art.
00:44:35
zachary smith
Art has no idea she's there.
00:44:35
Lex
Yep.
00:44:37
Lex
Right.
00:44:38
zachary smith
He goes into a Timmy's room.
00:44:42
zachary smith
And you just hear stab, stab, stab.
00:44:48
Lex
Done.
00:44:48
zachary smith
Then you hear like mutilation, like him cutting something.
00:44:53
Lex
Yep.
00:44:54
zachary smith
You see what happens, but you see him walking out of the, of the, uh, Timmy's room, axe completely covered in blood and him bloody.
00:44:55
Lex
No.
00:45:04
Lex
yep Yep.
00:45:06
zachary smith
Then you see, then you just hear, slash like an axe hitting and you and you just see the mom sleeping. She's like, what's that noise?
00:45:19
zachary smith
She's like, be quiet, be quiet. And then she lifts up her arm and it's bloody.
00:45:24
Lex
Yeah, it's covered in blood.
00:45:25
zachary smith
it Then she wakes up and Art the Clown is hitting her husband in the neck with an axe.
00:45:25
Lex
What the fuck?
00:45:35
Lex
She's screaming, screaming.
00:45:37
zachary smith
Yeah.
00:45:39
zachary smith
And you see this one because it is bloody. He is decapitating the hell out of this person.
00:45:44
Lex
Yep.
00:45:47
zachary smith
And you see her running. You see her going to Jimmy's room. He's all over. His body parts are all over the place because Art the Clown cut him up and threw him everywhere.
00:45:56
Lex
Everywhere scattered.
00:46:02
zachary smith
And like I was saying in the earlier, you don't see this happening because kids are usually off limits when it comes to that.
00:46:09
Lex
Yeah.
00:46:11
zachary smith
And supposedly the rumors are during this process during' in this scene, a lot of people walked out of the theater.
00:46:19
Lex
Really?
Gruesome Murders & Audience Impact
00:46:20
zachary smith
Yeah, because of how incredibly gory her his dad's death was how he died but also how jennifer the mom dies because what happens is after she leaves those her son's room she tells her little girl to run and hide she's trying to get down there trying to get out of the door but the door's locked because earlier in the film
00:46:38
Lex
Yeah.
00:46:48
zachary smith
She says, why was the door unlocked to her husband? You you forgot to lock the door. And I think that's how art got in them the in the house in the first place. And I think he was hiding behind the either off in the distance or behind the tree.
00:47:00
Lex
Yeah.
00:47:00
zachary smith
Don't know where, because it doesn't show exactly where he was hiding. So Jennifer comes down, tries to open the door, can't.
00:47:07
Lex
Mmm.
00:47:07
zachary smith
And she gets stabbed in the back with an X.
00:47:13
zachary smith
And he is he cuts half of her arm ah or her arm off.
00:47:20
zachary smith
um picks up the axe and slams it in her head, splits half, and she he also hit her in the stomach, so it's sliced open, her arm chopped off, um but he brutalizes her as an axe murderer in front of the tree while her daughter is watching.
00:47:46
Lex
Yep.
00:47:48
zachary smith
what they don't see and what people are debating to this day. After Art kills her the mom, he goes and eats the cookies and milk. You see him washing the glass and washing the the plate, putting it up and then he hears a noise coming from the cabinet. Opens the cabinet, there's Juliet. And then you see him having a big smile on his face and then darkness.
00:48:15
Lex
Yep.
00:48:17
zachary smith
We don't know if she he kills Juliet with the axe or what.
00:48:21
Lex
We don't know what happened.
00:48:23
zachary smith
We don't know what happens. um And then there's also another person, um and it looks like they called him Officer Evans. He was killed by Art the Clown's body off screen, the head was shown.
00:48:38
zachary smith
Don't remember exactly when the head was shown, but then the ni their nurse,
00:48:38
Lex
ah
00:48:44
zachary smith
Um, I guess this was all in the mental hospital because there's also a nurse that, um, face was bitten off by the clown. The body was shown. That was it. So I do remember two bodies on there. That wasn't the nurse that went into Victoria's room. And then you see Adam Burke, AKA Chris Jericho. And this is where um the ending of the second one into the third one.
00:49:15
zachary smith
where he is screaming, yelling, and then you see the Victoria Hayes come up and grab him by his jaw and like ripping his jaw.
00:49:26
Lex
Mm-hmm Yeah, I so i remember
00:49:28
zachary smith
And and you see arts spot then you see Art's head, like a little freaking ankle biter, biting his ankle. And then his body, and then you see Art's body come up and rips his face off. Dead.
00:49:41
Lex
ye
00:49:43
zachary smith
um Then it starts the movie and you see Art and Victoria getting on a train. And then you see Art the clown cosplayer.
00:49:56
Lex
yep oh when he gets oh yeah that i thought that was funny
00:49:59
zachary smith
Where he's like, oh, you your your guys are costing so good and they honk the horn. and they And Victoria and Art look at each other. Then went then it went ah blank.
00:50:10
Lex
Yep, it went blank.
00:50:11
zachary smith
Obviously they killed him because after the scene ends and the new scene happens, you see him walking into the house with a new clown suit.
00:50:19
Lex
Yep.
00:50:20
zachary smith
I don't know exactly what house this is because I don't think it really is shown.
00:50:25
Lex
It doesn't show. I think it's just in an abandoned house.
00:50:29
zachary smith
I think so too and then you see Art the Clown go upstairs. grabs the rocking chair, looks out the window, and then they made they said it's a homage, or homage, or whatever you call it, homage to um the Amityville.
00:50:40
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:50:44
zachary smith
Because if you notice in the attic, that the um the window is the same one as Amityville.
00:50:49
Lex
Okay.
00:50:51
zachary smith
And then you see Victoria going in the basement, saying, oh, you're so pretty, you're so pretty, breaks the mirror, gets in the bath, slits your own wrists.
00:51:01
Lex
Yep.
00:51:02
zachary smith
um ah for her forearms with a glass shard.
00:51:05
Lex
Yep.
00:51:06
zachary smith
then it cut Then you see art just keep rocking, rocking, and then you see a scene where you see Dennis and Maurice Jackson talking.
00:51:20
zachary smith
where they're talking, hey, we need to demol demolition this house. And they're talking about, oh, is this house about the the massacre, somebody that killed a lot of people? Oh, no, it's just a rumor. well Supposedly, the rumors are that they were actually foreshadowing Art's backstory.
00:51:38
Lex
Oh, okay.
00:51:40
zachary smith
So they're thinking, since Art is a clown, they're thinking he got fired from the circus that he was in the in the second one because he killed a lot of people.
00:51:50
Lex
Right.
00:51:51
zachary smith
So that's what people are theorizing, wasn't confirmed. I wish we had Damien Leon to actually tell us, because I think that would be awesome if he would join a podcast.
00:51:59
Lex
right
00:52:04
zachary smith
But anyways, so you see them joking, Maurice Jackson and Dennis. Maurice goes downstairs while Dennis goes upstairs. And if I'm not mistaken, Dennis is also in another movie.
00:52:16
zachary smith
Hold on to me, just double check because it may,
00:52:22
zachary smith
three He is in another movie. ah Let me find out because he it's also an homage to another movie.
00:52:33
zachary smith
um
00:52:35
zachary smith
Who has done it? Jonathan Abrams. Okay. Because he's in another, I think he's in another Christmas movie because for some reason they decided to have Terrifier 3, a Christmas film.
00:52:35
Lex
One more?
00:52:46
Lex
Oh.
00:52:48
zachary smith
So Jonathan Abrams was in House of Wax and Scary movie.
00:52:55
zachary smith
So his character was homaged to one of those, I think it's a House of Wax, ah but his character was the same one in the Terrifier movie. um Going back to Maurice.
00:53:09
zachary smith
So Maurice goes up down to the basement, finds Victoria in the bathroom, in the bathtub, been dead a while.
00:53:15
Lex
Mm-hmm Right It's like it said five years years later
00:53:19
zachary smith
because he doesn't say it. I don't believe it tells you how long after or set the sat down the time was. It had to be a little bit longer because um and Jonathan is in college now. Did it say five years? Okay. So Marie sees Victoria in the bathtub. He tries to call up to Dennis. Obviously there's a paranormal things happening and can't hear Dennis.
00:53:48
zachary smith
Can't see Dennis.
00:53:48
Lex
Right.
00:53:49
zachary smith
um And then, Maurice gets stabbed in the neck by Victoria with a glass shard. And then she stabs him off the screen.
00:54:02
zachary smith
Then you see ah Dennis messing with Art the Clown, trying to get Maurice to come up because he's found somebody. And then this is where it gets a little interesting and a little gory, in my opinion.
00:54:22
Lex
I mean you're not wrong.
00:54:23
zachary smith
Um, no worries. We're almost done. We'll rush this one. Um, what happens with Dennis was he gets his ah he is stabbed in the hand with a nail.
00:54:38
zachary smith
And then you see Victoria masturbating with a glass shard. This is why I say it's brutal.
00:54:41
Lex
that looking wild and she was getting off on that shit. She was she was literally stabbing her fucking vagina, y'all. Stabbing that shit like you would use a dildo.
00:54:52
Lex
I'm sorry if there's kids listening, I'm sorry. But like like how a grown woman would use a dildo kind of thing, she was going ham. And she acted like she finished.
00:55:02
zachary smith
yeah
00:55:02
Lex
Like like she finished, like she got off on it.
00:55:05
zachary smith
Yeah, and he got and she got off of it right when he scalped him with a box cutter and slit his throat.
00:55:10
Lex
Mm-hmm.
00:55:11
zachary smith
And then obviously Sienna finds her family and she gets out of it. It's a lot of filler because then you meet her sister, you meet her uncle, and then you meet her, or her brother-in-law and then you meet her
00:55:19
Lex
You need the story.
Shocking Mall Scene & Predictions in 'Terrifier 3'
00:55:26
zachary smith
niece.
00:55:26
Lex
Yes.
00:55:28
zachary smith
um And then it comes, and then I'm gonna skip over that because it's a lot of filler.
00:55:32
Lex
Right.
00:55:32
zachary smith
Um, then you see art, the clown at his work bench again.
00:55:38
Lex
Yeah.
00:55:38
zachary smith
I think the the house was whatever house he was in the first one when he was getting dressed. I think that's what it is.
00:55:43
Lex
Yes, that's what I think so too. I think.
00:55:45
zachary smith
Um, but you see him making a specific device and it was to freeze things.
00:55:50
Lex
Mm hmm.
00:55:53
zachary smith
It was with liquid with nitrogen. Um, and I'm going to skip over the rat because that was kind of fucked up and brutal. ah But then it it sees ah shows Art the Clown running or walking to past a bar.
00:56:11
zachary smith
But he sees um three people that are in there in Santa Claus.
00:56:18
Lex
Yep.
00:56:19
zachary smith
So he walks he walks in and you see Smokey, Eddie, and Charles. Charles is Santa Claus. Eddie is the bartender and Smokey is the guy that his wife died in and he's in the bar.
00:56:32
Lex
Right.
00:56:33
zachary smith
Long story short, he they confront Art the Clown or Art the Clown confronts them. Obviously he doesn't talk whatsoever. um And they offered to buy him a drink and then he pees on Santa Claus's leg.
00:56:46
Lex
That was fucking fun.
00:56:48
zachary smith
So they freak out and they push ah they push him out. They throw his bag. What I predicted in the first podcast where it weighs thousands of pounds because they couldn't get it up.
00:57:01
Lex
It took two men to lift his bag and toss it at him.
00:57:04
zachary smith
Yeah, it was just a trash trash bit trash bag.
00:57:07
Lex
like a regular
00:57:07
zachary smith
And then you see him shoot Eddie in the neck with the gun, because he's he's fiddling with his bag.
00:57:11
Lex
yep
00:57:13
zachary smith
And then Smokey's like, oh, no, no. And then he shoots Smokey in the head, finishes this off Eddie with the gun, goes to Santa Claus.
00:57:16
Lex
yep
00:57:20
zachary smith
He's freaking out, doesn't kill him with the gun, ties him up, and uses liquid nitrogen to break his limbs.
00:57:30
Lex
Yeah, that was diabolical. I would have never thought of that. and i
00:57:33
zachary smith
He sprays in with the liquid nitrogen and then he hits the leg with the freaking with the ball peen hammer and it shatters like glass.
00:57:44
Lex
Dude, and crazy. And I was thinking to myself, if you're using liquid nitrogen, wouldn't that like coagulate your blood to make it like more solidified once you smack it?
00:57:53
zachary smith
Mm hmm.
00:57:54
Lex
Yeah.
00:57:56
zachary smith
Okay, so let's skip over, then it shows a bunch of scenes where Sienna has to go to the mall.
00:58:01
Lex
Yeah.
00:58:02
zachary smith
This is the topic I wanted to show ah to get to the most.
00:58:05
Lex
Okay.
00:58:06
zachary smith
The mall. Because that mall scene, it was it was crazy. It's something that I never would have expected in a million years that would have been in a movie.
00:58:15
Lex
yeah
00:58:19
zachary smith
What happened? And this is one of the deaths that we'll just go into in depth because it's it's kind of ah a big thing just in general. He goes to acts like Santa and gives presents out to your little kids.
00:58:32
Lex
Yeah, at the mall, like how you would go and take your kids to a mall and take a picture with Santa on Santa's lap. Yeah, he went into the mall and pretended to be Santa pretty much.
00:58:42
zachary smith
Yeah, he pretends to be Santa. And then they find out, and then the elf's like, that's not Santa Claus. That's not our Santa Claus. So security grabs him, takes and leaves and ah drags him out.
00:58:49
Lex
that's not
00:58:54
zachary smith
Art's cursing, but he doesn't talk. And then he does his little shriek. And then all of a sudden, as soon as you see a little kid say, oh, what did I get?
00:59:05
zachary smith
Opens the box, blows everybody.
00:59:07
Lex
but Blows that shit up. It was a big ass Nope
00:59:10
zachary smith
close everybody up, you see little kids dying and parts flying everywhere. You would never have thought that would have happened. And that's all we were gonna say about that because there's only one, two, three, four, five, six, six more deaths. So it will be quick. So the next death was a very important character, at least in the beginning of the film, her name was Mia. Her and Cole, her boyfriend were having sex in the shower.
00:59:39
Lex
Oh yeah. That was a good scene. I ain't gonna lie. I was like, you. That got steamy. Okay.
00:59:45
zachary smith
I think it's the new but this is why you bring this up because so Mia dies because I will first Cole gets his hand and fingers sliced off with the chainsaw Mia has an obsession with art the clown by the way like a healthy obsession
00:59:45
Lex
ah
00:59:54
Lex
Yup.
00:59:58
Lex
cheese yeah Yeah, so we give her background real quick. Mia has a podcast and she goes to college with Jonathan and she oversees Tiana and Jonathan talking at the college.
01:00:11
Lex
She's a big fan of Art the Clown. She knows Tiana's story, asks Tiana if she wants to do a podcast. Tiana's not really with it.
01:00:18
zachary smith
yes
01:00:18
Lex
And typically, before the scene even came, Art the Clown overheard a conversation where Mia and Cole were talking about how she wants to know what it's like to look into Art's eyes, smell him, know what he's like because she's so captivated by the story.
01:00:23
zachary smith
Yes. Absolutely.
01:00:36
Lex
So, the scene.
01:00:37
zachary smith
Yeah, and I think he did it more brutal to her at the end or ah her death because she said she didn't want to sleep with him.
01:00:45
Lex
Right.
01:00:46
zachary smith
Because if you notice, Art the Clown got a little excited saying, oh, hey, how am I against them?
01:00:46
Lex
Yeah.
01:00:50
Lex
I might get some. but
01:00:53
zachary smith
So cool cut back to what happened. So Cole's in the shower. They're obviously having sex. And then all of a sudden, Art the Clown comes in with a fucking chainsaw, cuts his hand, cuts his finger, and then slices his leg.
01:01:03
Lex
Cuts his hand, cuts his finger.
01:01:09
zachary smith
He did jumps out of the shower. And then he cuts off Mia's breasts, hips, arms, sliced scalp but sliced off,
01:01:20
zachary smith
um and rips off her jaw. And then for some reason, but he he's wearing the sunglasses that are red.
01:01:32
Lex
Yeah.
01:01:33
zachary smith
It looked like a star or like a hand and then he pulls him down and shows his face to Mia and Mia freaks out But she can't do anything. She's she's still was dead, but she knows that that the a mild city clown That's cuz that's what his name is in the movie but Art the clown killed her then she dies and um You see Cole crawling So art pulls his leg but it pulls it off because it's not he already cut it off and
01:01:41
Lex
Yeah.
01:01:47
Lex
um Yep.
01:02:01
Lex
Yep.
01:02:01
zachary smith
Then he grabs the chainsaw and goes up main street with it.
01:02:05
Lex
yep yep you see his booty cheeks get sliced shredded art the clown when i was going through all the shit i was going through like look
01:02:08
zachary smith
You guys see his booty cheeks? You see his dick? You see his balls? You see all that completely get cut.
01:02:16
zachary smith
He gets shredded. It is the craziest scene. It is so freaking bloody too.
01:02:26
zachary smith
Hey, don't call that motherfucker. You don't want that guy in your life. Come on, we all know that.
01:02:32
Lex
Alright, damn! Go ahead. said yeah
01:02:36
zachary smith
Yeah, so then it then um during the mall scene, Sienna freaks out, jonathan that her ah then ah math or Greg calls, Jonathan tells him, his sister's freaking out, and to cut then he's gonna come get her.
01:02:51
Lex
Right.
01:02:51
zachary smith
Greg is waiting for Jonathan, Jonathan's asleep, and then Greg sees Art the Clown.
01:02:57
Lex
Yep.
01:02:57
zachary smith
and gets decapitated and disemboweled. It was off screen.
01:03:02
Lex
Yep.
01:03:03
zachary smith
You see his body later. And this is where it gets weird. So during the last series season, and we're kind of rushing through see ah the third one because it's not, it's more of a holiday movie, but also it sets up for a fourth one.
01:03:18
zachary smith
So there's not a lot to talk about in this one.
01:03:20
Lex
Right.
01:03:20
zachary smith
So the scene is Yannick gets um basically Jesus to a chair i don't know what the I don't know what they called his headdress, the one that had the thorns. I forgot what it was called.
01:03:31
Lex
ah I don't know what it's called, but I know, okay, if you if you want to know what it's, think in reference to Jesus when he was a sa um but crucified on the cross kind of thing.
01:03:40
zachary smith
On the cross. Yeah. um And in that scene, Greg Shaw's body is Jesus on the wall.
01:03:52
Lex
Yep.
01:03:52
zachary smith
Sienna's Jesus Donna chair where she has her hands basically duct taped and then put the crown that has thorns pointing on the inside instead of the outside on her face and that was because Victoria Hayes did did that and Then they show two skulls one that says oh, it's um, Jessica it's um Gabby and then Jessica freaks out and they pull another one and saying it just Jonathan and A lot of, because it has his glasses, a lot of people are speculating that that might not be him because it never showed how he died.
01:04:04
Lex
Yep. Yeah. Up on her head. Yeah.
01:04:27
Lex
Right. I thought that too. I think, I don't think he's dead. I don't.
01:04:31
zachary smith
I don't think so either because that's a he's a major part of the story.
01:04:35
Lex
Right.
01:04:35
zachary smith
Then you see Jessica Shaw. How she died, they shoved a plastic tube, rammed a plastic tube down her throat with a hammer is her throatless life is open and had a rat go down it.
01:04:50
Lex
So, in reference to you guys can know what he's talking about. If you guys ever watch South Park, episode of your slave shows a tube up his ass and shows a hamster in that tube.
01:04:58
zachary smith
oh South Park. Oh my.
01:05:06
zachary smith
Yes.
01:05:06
Lex
It's the first way, only it's down her throat and they're shoving mice down her throat. Go ahead.
01:05:11
zachary smith
Yeah, and and they, and her, ah him and victoria um Victoria were using a blowtorch for the rat to go in them and the body.
01:05:18
Lex
Yes, because they hate. Yeah, yeah.
01:05:21
zachary smith
um Then you see Sienna asking, Victoria's asking Sienna, oh, do you want to open a present before you die?
01:05:30
Lex
Yes.
01:05:31
zachary smith
And she said, yes. And she tells what one to grab, but Art is impatient and starts smashing her fingers with a hammer.
01:05:39
Lex
Right.
01:05:40
zachary smith
So she's trying to open this present and she, at the beginning of the movie, she puts the present under the tree. But Gabby catches her because Gabby in the movie, because we overcharge the whole thing, Gabby likes to snoop.
01:05:54
Lex
Yeah, she's a big snoot. So like but we didn't go over the filler ball, brush brush over it really quick. So basically, earlier in the movie, the parents of Gabby were telling Sienna, oh, last Christmas, we had to keep finding new presents to hide it you know and because she kept looking at it.
01:06:08
zachary smith
Yeah.
01:06:10
Lex
So basically, Gabby saw the present that Sienna put under the tree and opened it and then re-wrapped it. Go ahead.
01:06:17
zachary smith
Exactly. So Gabi tells them where it's at because she was snooping and Sienna knew she was snooping because she also read her diary that was also in in it because she lists like all the clown cafe and everything but we didn't want this episode to be five hours long because we got a more in-depth with everything.
01:06:27
Lex
but Yeah.
01:06:37
zachary smith
um And then as soon as she, she's like, oh, this is all I want. This is what I wanted for Christmas. She pulls out the sword, slices art the clown and throws the, so and throws, I believe either she throws the sword or she stabs Victoria in the chest and in the mouth.
01:06:54
zachary smith
And then it decapitates her.
01:06:56
Lex
Yep.
01:06:57
zachary smith
And then she like disintegrates into ooze and opens a portal to hell or wherever it is.
01:07:05
Lex
I think it's hell, but...
01:07:06
zachary smith
I think it's Hell 2, but then you see Art the Clown throw Gabby in the portal.
01:07:11
Lex
Yep, got it.
01:07:12
zachary smith
And Sienna tells her to grab the sword, and Sienna's grabbing this the sharp side while she's grabbing the handle, and Sienna can't hold on, and Gabby and the sword falls, and Hell and the portal shrinks.
01:07:25
zachary smith
And Art the Clown jumps out the window.
01:07:28
Lex
Yep.
01:07:29
zachary smith
Then at the end of the movie, you just see Art the Clown in ah in a bus, staring at a female that's reading a book.
01:07:37
Lex
Yep.
01:07:38
zachary smith
And then it ends. We don't know what happens to Jonathan. We don't know what happens with ah with um Gabby. We don't have know what happens to Sienna. This one, it was, a with a glory perspective, it was better than all three.
01:07:52
Lex
Yeah.
01:07:53
zachary smith
It was...
01:07:54
Lex
A lot more and lot more detail. A lot more blood.
01:07:56
zachary smith
Well, absolutely. I think this one had the best depth with how he he killed Cole.
01:08:05
Lex
Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:06
zachary smith
And I think that's, the i I brought this up earlier in a different podcast that his death was grew more brutal than the one that got shot in half from the vagina. um And you don't you don't hear anything else. Like this movie was, I think it's very good. um Honestly, it'd probably be an 7.5 or eight.
01:08:29
Lex
I agree.
01:08:30
zachary smith
for me, just because it doesn't it doesn't end. um And since the fourth one's not until 2026 or 2027, I think it's 2026. We don't know what's happening.
01:08:42
Lex
Nope. I will say though, if if you're into gory stuff and you're in you and you you know, you like that kind of, it has some kind of bits of humor touched into it too, just with his facial ah interactions and what he does, small, silly moments.
01:08:51
zachary smith
Yeah.
01:09:00
Lex
If you're into that kind of thing, I do, so I do recommend the Terrifier series.
01:09:05
zachary smith
Oh, absolutely.
01:09:05
Lex
It's it's really good.
01:09:07
zachary smith
And if you want a Christmas movie, a christmas Christmas horror movie, this is probably the best Christmas horror movie ever released. I mean, you got like Jack Frost, you got like Krumpus, you got all these horror movies, but none of them as brutal.
01:09:18
Lex
Yeah.
01:09:22
zachary smith
You don't see kids dying in any of those movies.
01:09:24
Lex
Nope. If you want to scare your kids to go to sleep earlier, I strongly recommend.
01:09:29
zachary smith
Yes, and I also will strongly recommend nobody under the age of 18 watch this movie.
01:09:33
Lex
Yeah, no. If you are under the age of 18, have someone with you, you know.
01:09:37
zachary smith
Yeah, have somebody with you because when I was telling you ah Lex earlier in the podcast, it legitimately had people running out of the theater.
01:09:47
Lex
If you got a weak stomach, don't do it.
01:09:47
zachary smith
And it was...
01:09:50
zachary smith
Yeah, don't do it. But that's the review of Terrifier 2 and 3 with theories um sprinkled around because um it was gonna be a longer podcast episode, but we it's hard to do theories of a movie that the fourth one's not even announced
Future Podcast Plans & Closing Remarks
01:10:05
zachary smith
yet.
01:10:05
Lex
ah
01:10:07
zachary smith
um And I went over the theories that Lex had and that she had any, ah do you have any other theories or anything that you think or want to know more about? Because I i watch those movies all the time.
01:10:16
Lex
Right.
01:10:19
Lex
right I think the only thing with the Terrifier series so far, just because we haven't seen the fourth one, the only thing I'm curious about is I'm really dying to know more about art's backstory. I want to know how you became art.
01:10:34
zachary smith
I do too. um And it kind of gives you a little sprinkles from the second and third one where they're saying he could have been a killer clown in a circus.
01:10:38
Lex
Right.
01:10:42
zachary smith
And also um you see that ah during the second one, when Siena is dying, you get a very small glimpse, but you see a demon and an angel or an angel Mary making the armor, not the sword, the armor.
01:10:58
Lex
ah The armor, not the sword. Okay.
01:11:02
zachary smith
So I guarantee in the fourth one, she somehow finds her way to hell and gets the armor from that from the angel.
01:11:10
Lex
I think so too. Cause when I remember that as well, I thought that was cool as fuck. I was like, wait a second. Why is that? Cause I was like, why is that stack so familiar? I was like, Oh wait, I'm sorry.
01:11:20
zachary smith
Yeah, it's a Virgin Mary.
01:11:22
Lex
I was like, Oh shit.
01:11:23
zachary smith
Yeah. Yeah, so that was the reviews of Terrifier 2 and 3 and the theories. we have The next series we are going to go over and we're actually pushing it to next week um would be the um Devil's Reject Saga.
01:11:41
Lex
Yes.
01:11:42
zachary smith
Mine and Lex absolutely love the movies so we'll will go a deep dive in um House of 1000 Corps and we'll make it three different episodes so we're not overdoing this because all three of them deserve their own movie or their own review.
01:11:56
Lex
Yeah, they do.
01:11:59
zachary smith
And there's no theories with this one because that it ended.
01:12:01
Lex
Yeah.
01:12:02
zachary smith
House of 1000 Corps, Devil's Rejects, all that, there's only three movies.
01:12:03
Lex
Yep.
01:12:06
zachary smith
But thank you guys so much. Thank you so much, Lex. This is probably the longest episode episode we've ever done. um and new ah We're using Zencaster now. So it's it's a new it's new for us. um We'll have guests in the future. Maybe the next one, we'll have them a friend for the clapper stories, because I think we should have a friend for clapper stories.
01:12:28
Lex
I think so too, and I think I have the right person in mind on who we should ask.
01:12:32
zachary smith
Oh, yeah, who?
01:12:33
Lex
Star.
01:12:35
zachary smith
star okay okay yeah let's do it i will reach out to her um and its since it's only 30 minutes it's not going to be a big deal either star or we have somebody else that actually was no somebody that was with us during the saga of bow during the saga of olivia angelica
01:12:39
Lex
Okay. No. Sophie? Who?
01:12:58
Lex
Oh, you're so right. Angelica could be a guest too. That should be fun.
01:13:03
zachary smith
Yeah, so this one, it may happen on Wednesday. I don't know when it'll be uploaded, but in the future, we'll have a breakdown on our Twitter page and i I'll have on our YouTube community page. um Also our TikTok as well. All of that will is the same name, the Howley and Hoppa podcast.
01:13:25
zachary smith
um You might have found us on YouTube, but um we're going to be posting at least daily updates. will just but I think we'll have on Lex's TikTok, and mine will be just reviewing kills from different movies we enjoy over during the week so it doesn't get stale.
01:13:42
Lex
Yeah.
01:13:46
Lex
Right. Yeah. Sure.
01:13:47
zachary smith
Yeah. But thank you so much for this.
01:13:50
Lex
Thanks.
01:13:52
zachary smith
It was awesome. It was awesome just hearing you again, making sure you were OK.
01:13:56
Lex
Yeah.
01:13:56
zachary smith
And we're gonna have to we're gonna do it again and we'll have to set up schedule. So Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays, right?
01:14:03
Lex
Yep. Sounds good to me.
01:14:04
zachary smith
Yeah. All right. Thank you so much Lex.
01:14:08
Lex
Thank you.
01:14:08
zachary smith
Hold up. so Don't leave just yet. I'm just gonna stop this recording. And yes, you guys are gonna hear this because I don't edit it. I don't cut anything. It's raw, uncensored, and uncut.
01:14:19
zachary smith
Have a nice night, y'all.
01:14:20
Lex
youtube yeah
01:14:44
Lex
You too, yeah.