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Just The Boyz but it's Revolutionary - Ep 57
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For this episode of Just the Boyz, the hosts attempt to discuss the events leading up to the American Revolution and the first year of the fight for America's Independence from the English Crown.
Early on in this episode, you can tell that hosts have a lot to say without a really coherent plan as to how to say it. The guys are all over the place with this episode, but you can definitely get a sense of their passion for this topic.
And yes, Carlton did mix up King George III with King George V. He's been binging The Crown recently.
Literature recommendations:
- 1776 by David McCullough
- The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution by Bernard Bailyn
- Liberty's Daughters: The Revolutionary Experience of American Women, 1750-1800 by Mary Beth Norton
- The Colored Patriots of the American Revolution: Forgotten Black Heroes by William Cooper Nell
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Introduction to Episode 57
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listening to the Archaeology Podcast Network. There we go. Ooh, baby, 100%. Okay, in three, two, one.
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Welcome to episode 57 of Life Ruins Podcast, where we investigate the careers of those living life in ruins. I'm your host, Carlton Gover, and I'm joined by my co-host, Connor Jonnan and David Inhow.
Why is the American Revolutionary War Important?
00:00:30
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In this episode, we're getting revolutionary. By that, we're going to talk about the war for independence, the only independence that matters, the American independence. Overthrow the king. I've taken a revolutionary war class. David's taken revolutionary war class. Connor, have you done your due diligence in service of this great nation?
Hosts' Family Histories and Ancestry
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Well, absolutely. I've actually visited these places, gone and done that, and read all the books. I read 1776 last year, so when was the last time you guys read that? David McCullough is overrated. He's the Jared Diamond of the American Revolution.
00:01:05
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He's the Grand Hancock of American history. Get out of here. You redcoat. I'm not going to have this conversation. No, it's actually, it's a wonderful book. It's good. No, you're just, you're as to how, you're some fricking redcoat. So get out of here. I want to hear it. That's true. Is your family? Yeah, we'll get into that. We'll get into that. How long have your family's been here, by the way?
00:01:31
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Uh, on my dad's side, the Indian side, we are on his mom's side, the white side. They've been here since 10,000 BC. Yeah. But my dad's dad is Pawnee. My dad's mom is, uh, traces her ancestry to the second voyage to Jamestown. Through that were sons of the American rule of revolution, sons of the civil war, sons of the Confederacy. We don't like to talk about that one. That's an ancestor we just like to forget about. Second, second voyage to Jamestown, huh? Yeah. Round, round two.
00:01:58
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You know, not, not much of the hard work. Just once everything was set up, eat some people. I don't think they did that second round. Wasn't that first round? I mean, once you get the taste for human flesh, like you keep it going, man. Yeah. I don't know what was that first or second round. I think that was first round. Yeah. I think we missed that. I think it was like some third or fourth kid of some Earl that they just like got rid of the continent and just sent him to America to die. And then he ended up flourishing. What about, what about you, Connor? Connor, British, Irish, German last name, Johan.
00:02:28
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We're much later. I think we're like 1890s, early 1900s. So we're light comers to this place. Tsk, tsk. What about you, Mr. Corporal, Lieutenant Howe? Admiral Howe, what are you?
00:02:45
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Uh, he was general home. Thank you. My mom's side, obviously Ellis Island ish, uh, early 1900s. And then my, my dad's side has been here on his British, like house British, right? And then there's McComb is our Scottish name. And the British side's been here since like 15 something. I think they were sailors. And then they were farmers up in upstate New York. We have no Iroquois DNA whatsoever. So that's either good or bad. Uh, I don't know.
00:03:09
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And then we'll figure that one out later. And then, um, having lived there for so long, you know, you think, but the other thing is the Scottish side came over as indentured servants. I think her name was Agnes Macomb. You gotta say that the right way. Agnes Macomb. And she came over. Oh, Agnes. Agnes, make me some Agnes. All right. We're getting borderline here. Um, but yeah, she was here and then, um, the house side and the Macomb side married. And I think, yeah, we've been to upstate New York for a long while.
00:03:39
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Excellent. So we have a pretty original New Yorker, pretty OG Virginian, and then whatever Connor is, whenever they had the whole showing up when the place was already set up.
00:03:51
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Yeah, like what's the deal? Why they come so late? I have no idea. I haven't done a ton of research into that. We were Welsh, Irish, German. So we we came along a little later on. Are you are you related to William Howe at all or any of those?
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those clowns. So, uh, according to my dad and like the genealogy tree, I don't think we're related to that how, because we had come over before that, but he definitely has the how last name and there's probably some distant thing like overseas or something, but I'm pretty sure our family was like pretty poor. It's why they came over here. They were like, Oh, we got no bread. We got come over here farm. I guess we'll go to Rochester, New York. It sounds exotic.
00:04:38
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I hope I don't get clubbed by the Seneca. Back in the day, that was a pretty exotic place to live.
The Complexity of the Revolutionary War
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It was. I guess we're going to start with, since this is the Revolutionary War episode, War of Independence, a lot of you guys have been asking us to do more history and tie it in with archaeology, so we want to provide. We're here for you. We deliver.
00:04:58
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So I've always been interested in the Revolutionary War that it's always been like one of the most interesting things for me. It's the it's the war that felt that felt right. You know, America was that America was fighting for itself and America. Yeah, we're fighting for herself, defending our freedom.
00:05:15
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and was kind of this interesting like rebellion war where we like crapped on the British and I really really enjoyed that as part of that but the more research you get into the more complex you realize this this war was it was like
00:05:30
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There's a lot of facets to what was going on. Yeah during this I mean like realistically we didn't kick the crap out of the British leaders There's just so much going on in the world that they just did not have time for us anymore And that's something I wanted to bring up too because it's like we think of the revolutionary work our history starts with that, you know, we get Columbus and some yada yada and then like the Revolutionary War and then
00:05:55
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But like the French and Indian war or the Seven Years War and the Revolutionary War was like not even a huge deal. They were India, they were colonizing Australia.
00:06:05
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They were in South Africa, dealing with that, doing all sorts of things. And they were just like, ah, those freaking yanks. And they had to deal with us. And we were like, hey, we don't want to be taxed without no representation. Even though we just say this because it's catchy. It doesn't mean anything, really. And that's really what happened. Didn't really mean anything. It just rhymed, is kind of what the book that I read told us. But yeah, so it was just kind of like a foreign war for the British. And they were just like, it's like if we had a colony on Mars and they were like, hey, we want
00:06:34
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We want to be our 51st state, like Puerto Rico or DC. And we're like, all right, whatever. Well, it's, it's like, so like, just to get reinforcements from England to here, what's, what would it take months? Right. And so it's like, yeah, there was no 12 turns and civ. That's how we measure time these days. Yeah. It's so like, just, they were at a disadvantage just from the start, just by geography. And that's true. You do get plus three movement.
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If anyone's listening, they know that they're loving that. Or if you don't know what that means, you're like, I'm going to turn this off at this point. So it pays you. And also, General and Admiral Howe, so the General that was in charge of land forces and brothers, yes, and Admiral, not only were they tasked by King George V with quelling the rebellion, but they were also charged with resuming diplomatic ties. So they were trying to not go hard as they could because they were also supposed to be the diplomats at the same time.
00:07:32
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So it was kind of like a catch 22 for him. So they couldn't effectively do their job as military men. And they couldn't effectively do their job as diplomats because they were trying to do the same thing. I'll go under that story here. Just clear the air. General Howe was part of Bunker Hill. Like, according to like the books, it sounds like he got PTSD from the battle because it was just brutal. This is the land guy. This isn't the C1. William Howe was on land.
00:07:59
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Seals McGee was on water, I don't remember his name, Richard Howe, something like that. The Admiral, yeah. There you go.
00:08:09
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William Howe, I believe, like if you read about what happened, he was like, I'm going to go. I'm not. This was tough. Like Bunker Hill was just a bloodbath and he was like, this is terrible. And then he was supposed to go to the Ohio River Valley to fight Washington there. But instead he chose to get drunk and gamble himself or gamble himself into like a drunken stupor.
00:08:30
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in Manhattan, as most House would do. You know, he didn't go and that's why Washington kind of won the Western Theater. But I mean, there's multiple factors to that. But I thought it was interesting because that's part of when you look back at history and you know, you have like the LGBTQ critique or the feminist critique, the things, right? You can look at it and be like, okay, were Lewis and Clark maybe homosexual together? Like that's a whole debate. I don't think it is. But you can also look back at things and be like,
00:08:56
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PTSD was not a thing at that time or mental illness. So like, I mean, you were just either crazy or not according to them. So you can look back and be like, huh. And that was a big topic in the class we had was like, is there evidence of, you know, that kind of stuff in history that isn't written down? Cause no one's going to write. Like I had shell shock. Right. Yeah. We're skipping ahead some steps. We have, we got to, we
Precursors to the Revolutionary War
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got to dial it back. So how, why did the revolutionary or started? Yeah. We're 12 minutes in. Let's do this.
00:09:23
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We did six minutes of no Irish need apply. So we need to like catch up with the actual episode. That's a hundred years later. So David mentioned the seven years war. That is a pretty pivotal moment for background to the revolutionary war. David, what is your synopsis of the seven years war and why that's critical to what happens? Like was it 10, 10 years, 15 years later? That's like 12, 15. Yeah. Yeah. Was it seven years? Yeah. It's seven years war.
00:09:53
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Well, yeah, it was seven years long, but it was okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Seven years war was like literally a world war. And that was going on between Europe. Uh, I think it was, was this one about religion or was it just territory? I mean, they all get to do religion. Um, territory. Yeah, territory, religion, Germany, you know, going out with Holy Roman empire at the time, the Ottomans were doing some, uh, the whole thing. There's a bunch of stuff in like, I think Scandinavia too, essentially the seven years war was also again for the British.
00:10:21
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We're like literally the frontier. It's like around Pandora and Avatar out here living and it's like the French had their territory up to the Mississippi, you know, like what we got the leaves we're gonna purchase from and then we had, or Britain had, you know, up to the Appalachians. The Seven Years War here, the French needed more for us, Seven Years War for the world.
00:10:40
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was like the British just fighting the French and allied indigenous tribes, I guess nations at the time. But I forget which ones. There's a lot. I know the Cherokee on the British side. Yeah. So that's one of those misnomers. There were indigenous on the British side too, as there are through most American wars. Just whoever paid them more. Yeah. Well, I know with the Iroquois Confederacy, there was one
00:11:04
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group, like four out of the five other Confederacy sided with the British, one sided with the French, and then they lost. And then later, when the American Revolution happened, the ones that sided with the French side with the Americans and kind of through the American Revolution got the whole, yeah, I'm getting ahead of myself again. But yeah, it effectively kicked France out of the new world for a while.
00:11:30
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as a power, as a power until they got it back later with the whole Louisiana purchase. Well, they, they had the land, but Napoleon had just taken over France and he was like, I don't want to deal with this. Here's this at half off. And Thomas Jefferson was like, right. And that's kind of more than half off. It was like a 95% clearance sales. Like I don't want this, but yeah, that's kind of it. But they were here before that. And like the whole,
00:11:57
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middle America up through Canada and stuff was French, which is how you got your last name, right?
00:12:03
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Uh, like a hundred, a hundred years later. Yeah. Most of Canada was French too. French kind of now is the best kind of, uh, you guys just want to end it here and go a little longer in the next segment and actually talk about what's going on. I guess we could talk about
Colonial Unrest and Revolutionary Sentiments
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the intolerable acts real quick. Cause we don't need to go to depth in that because the seven years war Britain was bankrupt, started taxing change towards the fifth was in there. And that's where we get the intolerable act, like the stamp act.
00:12:32
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the Tea Act, a couple others that really made it hard for colonists to be financially stable in the states, in the colonies at that time, because part of the whole colonial system is colonists could not make things on their own, typically.
00:12:50
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They had to be imported from Britain. That's actually one of the first sites I worked at, is finding a bunch of out in Northern Virginia, looking for black market potters. Really? Yeah, because it was basically the old time moonshine. You go out to the Appalachians and you make some pottery, so you didn't have to buy it from the Brits. Did some chemical analysis on skeletons. There was a whole thing, but that was actually one of my first projects, was working on a colonial site and also looking for one at George Washington Starports in Loudoun County, Virginia, which is in someone's backyard in Leesburg.
00:13:19
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Google Maps. Google Maps. You see a lot of some of the general's army military folks appear in the Seven Years' War and get experience in the Seven Years' War and the French and Indian War that ultimately play big parts in the Revolutionary War. So that's kind of some of that other influence that you get from this time period.
00:13:39
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That's how Washington came to fame, too. He was a general or some kind of corporal or something like that in that army or that war. And the patriot, too, I think Mel Gibson's character had that's where he got his tomahawk from was like the French Indian War. And at this time, Ohio was under the domain of Virginia. Yeah, Washington in French and he was like a colonel or something. He was really famous for losing. But with grace. Yeah, he knew how to lose, which became pivotal later on.
00:14:10
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Yeah. If only I learned that skill. And on that note, we will end this segment and go on to segment two. And this is episode 57 or something. It's pretty crazy. It's revolutionary.
00:14:20
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Welcome back to segment two of episode 57 of Life and Earns podcast. As Connor said in a coinie joke, we're talking about the Revolutionary War. We kind of went on a long tangent last time, but let's get to the brass tacks here. For those non-U.S. listeners here, the 13 colonies were Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, and then New York, New Jersey.
00:14:45
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Uh, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, not Vermont, Vermont was part of New Hampshire and Maine belongs to Massachusetts. Yeah. And that like Maine is just, Maine is called Maine because it's like, there's the mainland, but most of Maine is in the islands scattered on the coast. So that's why it was part of Massachusetts. So they just was like, all right, we'll sail up there and call it that.
00:15:08
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And as Carlton mentioned, we had a lot of colonists here. Like it was a very populated area. New York is obviously a big city. New York was like a perfect port city. It was well defended. Uh, you have to sail up the coast of Long Island to get up there and then you can send everything up the river and send it back to England or wherever. And, uh, the other, like Philadelphia was right there on those, like the tri state area, Philadelphia, New Jersey, New York city hall right there. But as we were talking about before, there's a lot of.
00:15:35
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You know, we're far away from Britain. There's a lot of like government that can't really be done here. It's all done remotely. You can't zoom call and, you know, talk to people. It took like months to go by ship and like things like the Stamp Act, like literally taxed playing cards, like an astronomical amount. And like, what else do you do? But play like.
00:15:53
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What's the game where you stab your hand on the table? That doesn't involve March. That's five finger filet. There are no cards involved. You could do that. You could watch the whale oil lamps like burn down and then you could feel bad about whales and then you could play cards. And then they were like, all right, you know what? Card text me 50%. And then they were like, let's go dump some tea. So you want to talk about the Boston Tea Party? Yeah, that's nuts.
00:16:21
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I want to mention something real quick. So Carlton did mention the Intelligible Acts, but these are kind of the responses to the Sugar Act, the Stamp Act, the Molasses Act, and like Carlton's going to explain for the Boston Tea Party.
00:16:35
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So people probably don't understand like they didn't send like tea leaves when we're talking about the Boston Tea Party when a bunch of drunk college students and people forget the people that founded this country did so at a bar and they were college students in their early 20s got drunk and founded this country. So Fox News, when you talk about, you know.
00:16:55
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founding fathers. You're talking about radical college students. Bernie bros that actually had a plan.
What Sparked the Boston Tea Party?
00:17:02
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Kind of. The Articles of Confederacy didn't really work out that well for a while, but that's after the war. Tea was shipped in these bricks and you would shave off a couple shavings.
00:17:16
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That's what went in your tea. So when we're talking about crates being dumped into the harbor, it wasn't like tea leaves. It wasn't like bags of twinnings. They were literal, just like pallets of pure concentrated tea juice. It was like millions of dollars worth of tea that were just dumped into the harbor.
00:17:40
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Yeah. And not, not like a plantations work. It was literally like a country's worth of tea pressed into these bricks and then just thrown into Boston Harbor, Boston, Hava, Boston, Hava, and they did, they dressed up as indigenous people, right? Or is that like a myth? That's the Indians. We don't care about them. We still haven't figured that out. So let's, you know, come on guys. And then, then a hundred years from now we can have a football team and we can honor them.
00:18:10
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Oh my gosh. Connor, do you have something to say? I was just going to say, I think I just, I picturing like twinnings, I wonder if they like tied all the tops together and they like lifted them out of the habit to make sure the tea comes out right.
00:18:23
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Yeah. Those fish must have been caffeinated for a good minute, but like, um, probably there's no fish there anymore. I think I had a trivia question one time and it was like, what is one of the oldest tea? And it was like the tea dumped in the Boston Boston, Boston, Boston tea party. And I think it was twinnings. Like the company has been around that long. Uh, I could be wrong. That trivia trivia is always wrong. I always have to go. It was the East India trade company was up that it was it because it was a big thing. And then also Hudson Bay was also another one at that time. Yeah.
00:18:51
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Computing. And also like a difference that David was talking about, the Northern States, more industrial, far more populated, far more independent, just based on the colony status, because you're talking about a lot of religious radicals that were kicked out of Europe, to basically they threw them to the new world to either starve or just get out of Europe.
Southern Colonies' Role in the Revolution
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And then the South, so like Virginia, good old Virginia, and Southward were mostly plantations, wealthy folks,
00:19:19
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Yeah, and had strong ties to England because they were producing a lot of cotton, which we'll get into later why that difference between North and South matters, especially at this moment. Tobacco, cotton, and rice. Rice was big in South Carolina, tobacco, Virginia, like all of the mid-Atlantic, and then the South was just cotton, cotton, cotton.
00:19:40
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And Georgia wasn't that big at this time. It was mostly set up to be a buffer between the colonies and New Spain. Yeah. So it was like it was kind of like Luxembourg. Not many people. Kind of out in the middle of nowhere. Oglethorpe like found it. It was a penal colony at first, too. Like it was like Australia. I didn't know that. It was. Yeah. And then I think it's like there's like, oh, it's a myth. But like they did bring like indentured servants and criminals here to work the plantations and like do other things.
00:20:07
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at first but Georgia also Atlanta was a city Augusta actually Savannah obviously being a big British city that's if you go there now it's beautiful and it like you can see like the little cobble roads and stuff but Augusta itself being inland a bit was actually a British armory and they like sailed it up the river so that they didn't get like destroyed on the coast it's actually pretty smart and then I work in an old cotton mill which is wild yeah anyway uh moving on the
00:20:33
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Oh, let me add one more thing. You could call New England its own separate thing, too. They kind of had their own culture. They were very banded together as a community. And I think things definitely happened different and were sparked in this New England area, almost being this larger
00:20:55
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The British may have seen them as a representation of what America is, but it was super diverse. Like you said, the cotton, different industries, different people. It was a very diverse white, as much as you can get. New England was like this interesting place where all these things
00:21:17
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started sparking like the Boston Tea Party and you get the first couple battles of the Revolutionary War after the Intolerable Acts really occurring in this New England area.
Formation of the Continental Congress
00:21:30
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It wasn't like everyone was on the same page like, oh, we should absolutely go to war with England and try to get our freedom and anything like that.
00:21:40
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It sparked in one kind of place and everyone else was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we also had the government structure kind of set up because even prior to the Revolutionary War, there was already kind of these lower houses of just colonists setting up their own smaller government governments. And then you kind of led to some of the Southern states ended up doing their own economic sanctions against Britain and stopped.
00:22:06
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sending trade their way. And once again, radical college students doing a lot of this stuff. And Connor was getting into that too. Up North had a lot of those prestigious colleges where people didn't really farm. They were either sailors or they made rope or something like that. But you went to college up there, like Yale, Harvard, Harvard's older than the country.
00:22:26
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And like you went up there and did that kind of stuff, but down south, there are a few colleges for sure, but it wasn't as populous and you couldn't, you could get to Newark from New York city by like literally swimming across the river. So it was like more concentrated. And those are the issues that bled into the civil war, why there was such a difference between the north and the south. It's like a different culture. Um, and that's why the, the British helped the south because they're like, Hey, we need some of that cotton.
00:22:51
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and like needed that back. So yeah, the Southern campaign was more of like a civil war within the colonies rather than like an all out rebellion. It was no bueno. If you watch the Patriot, they kind of tag on this a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the loyalists that really occurred down there in like large numbers. Um, so, and then, so we get the tea party and you get
00:23:13
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the colonies kind of responding to this by creating the first continental Congress, which is 12 or 13 British colonies. Georgia didn't get the memo. They're just down there eating peaches or whatever they do down there to kind of at least to try to organize in some sort of fashion.
00:23:33
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to organize as a country, whatever. So that's, that's kind of like the next step and nothing really happens. They just, I don't think. Yeah. Massachusetts really starts things off. You have the Boston massacre, which was kind of caused by the colonists, the partial repeal of town shed act and just kind of like, there's these little things going on. The British are kind of responding. I didn't think about that. Yeah. It's like, we got a history of, uh,
00:24:01
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police false flag operations. Yeah. The first one was right there. Yeah. Yeah. And John Adams defended the, the Brit soldiers.
Escalating Tensions: Boston Massacre and Beyond
00:24:11
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He won successfully. Yeah. He got a lot of credit and he stood his ground like, nah, we got to do this. Right. And some drunk idiot was like fire and like the British were like, Oh, all right. And fire, like that's how he won the debate.
00:24:26
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Yeah. And then also like the East India Trade Company almost goes under in 1773. So really like worldwide things aren't great for Britain to like not tax the States. And even still like in back home in England, they thought the colonists were pretty lazy. And they're like, they're ungrateful because we help protect them from the French and those dirty savages.
00:24:49
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Right. And it's six months delayed propaganda as well. Yeah. It was six months delayed propaganda that they heard. So like most people didn't really know when they were like, yeah, we even sent like representatives and took to try from, from, um, the colonies to England to at least have, yeah. Yeah. Have conversations with folks and be like, okay, we want some sort of representation here to ultimately
00:25:15
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It's not all radical. There was some negotiation. There was like attempts to really rectify that. Yeah, there's a lot of moderates within the Continental Congress that did not, especially some of the Pennsylvanians, Quakers who did not believe in violence. Right.
00:25:33
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The people in the south, like we talked about, they made a lot of money off of Britain. They made quite a bit sending their goods off and trading with the British and doing all that. And they had an economic reason to stay British. That's why a lot of them were loyalists.
00:25:47
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I sent Connor and Carlton my final exam notes from the class that I had and the essay question was like, it can be argued there were two separate revolutions. One that took place on the battlefield and one that occurred in the political arena. And that's what Connor's getting at. Like there was a lot of diplomacy that went into it. And honestly, it was like, I mean despite them being like kind of, you know, they had slaves and like didn't probably were pretty racist at the time.
00:26:12
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They were pretty intelligent dudes that Carlton said they were like in their early twenties, some thirties. I think Ben Franklin was like probably like 80. I'm just kidding. He was 80 and he was still getting around too. People don't realize Ben Franklin was a horn dog. You read some of those letters he was sending to people, like sending young girls, like you make my soldiers stand out attention. Like the dude would have been canceled today. He was the crystal of the revolution.
00:26:37
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All right. It's what it is. But, um, yeah, like a lot of it took place there. And like, if you read the, we're getting ahead here, but like, if you read the Declaration of Independence, mostly written by Thomas Jefferson, like it's a brilliant piece of like literature. Like it's just a huge F U to the established government. And it's like, it's such flowery, like intense verbiage that the King was just like, all right. Yeah. And then so they sent the house.
00:27:04
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think, I think, like Carlton said, it's really interesting. They, they were ultimately like, they had their hands tied in New York. They could have wiped out Washington. Cause they, you ultimately get, you know, commanders on each side and folks, you know, ultimately goes to war after the
00:27:21
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I don't know exactly when the Battle of New York was, but Battle of Brooklyn, all that stuff. The House were ultimately just trying to not be complete dicks. They're not trying to wipe out Washington because they could have on multiple occasions, Washington really didn't
00:27:41
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wasn't up an experienced commander and really messed up in New York ultimately and just got lucky. Yeah. And they didn't want to burn the place down because they needed it for money. Like the whole purpose of keeping the colonies was to support the British Empire. Um, and yeah, and it's like, I always think it's interesting how like at that continental Congress, when they're trying to figure out who's going to lead the army, you know, George Washington shows up in uniform and it's like, well, if you're going to give it to me, I guess so. Like I don't really want it. It's like really George.
00:28:09
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You just dress up for no reason. Like you're kind of, really? Come on, big guy. You six foot, go teeth wearing moron. Sure. I think we started this session or section on like the entire racks and like what happened. So like, why did we declare war? Like what, what happened there? Or like, when, when did it become that? And like, we had Lexington and Concord and all that.
00:28:32
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Yeah, Massachusetts went off, Lexington and Concord, the shop heard around the world, and then Bunker Hill happened. No. Lexington and Concord is up north, dude. That's like the whole, yeah, that's the whole the British are coming thing. The Paul Revere, yeah, they were basically the British sort of rounding up people's guns.
00:28:56
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And then the people said, you're not taking our guns. And then they shot the British. Which is where the super power at the time comes from. Yeah, they were, they were to be a superpower. It was, it was just, oh gosh, a different time, a different time. Yeah. One, if by land,
First Battles of the Revolutionary War
00:29:14
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two, if I see kind of thing like this, the British are coming, the British come and attack. Uh, but w we had sent the declaration of independence is what started the war, right? Or was it, they just came and attacked first and then we did that stuff later. I can't recall.
00:29:25
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It's been a few years. Let me double check, because I think Bunker Hill happened prior to all the colonies. So that's One Nation kind of thing. Lexington and Concord were 1775. One was Bunker Hill, because it's all kind of
00:29:47
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So Lexington and Concord are some of the battles and Bunker Hill occurs in 1775 as well. And I think these are all ultimately connected and you have these militias that are coming and being formed in Massachusetts and other local communities down there to kind of respond to these Lexington and Concord stuff. And then you have the Battle of Bunker Hill, which is intense and awful and just, oh God.
00:30:14
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Lexington Concord and Bunker Hill happened in June. Declaration of Independence was July 3rd, and then everyone got the word on the 4th.
00:30:26
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That's that little faux pas with independence. It's like they signed it on the third. They didn't let the country know till July 4th. Someone just said that Bunker Hill was a bloodbath. And like, if you look at it on Wikipedia, the total casualties on the British side were 450. And on the British side, what? That's not right. No, the British lost a thousand.
00:30:51
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1,000 and the colonists lost 450. They, the British, charged three times, mowed down at point blank range and still took the ground. They were not playing.
00:31:08
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Right, and that plays into, I don't know if it was that battle specifically, but part of the, I was going to say this before, again, the British and like the colonies extended from the coast up to the Appalachians. So like you went to the mountains and over that was indigenous territory. You know, they kept encroaching, but like Tennessee was the wild frontier at this time. So like nothing.
00:31:29
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out there was like settled, really. People were moving out there, but it wasn't like a civilization yet in the European sense. So a lot of what helped us win the war, especially in these like huge numbered battles that are stacked against us, was guerrilla warfare. And like, as they make sure to show that in the Patriot, but like we could like hide in trees. We knew the land really well, but the British were coming here doing their like lined warfare at their muskets and we're like, and we were just like swinging from trees, like clubbing people with Tomahawks.
00:31:58
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That's the whole Swamp Fox thing, which Patriot is loosely based off of. The Southern War was a very different war, which is kind of interesting with Lord Cornwallis, who was the Lieutenant Commandant, I think, of the theater. He reported to Howe, but he was in charge of the Southern campaign. A lot of loyalists fought for the British. They started in Charleston and just kind of made their way up.
00:32:22
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they were largely successful. I mean, most of the campaign in the Americas is largely successful on behalf of the British. The Americans were really good just after they lost a battle, being able to retreat in order to maintain the army. And then they were able to rally
00:32:38
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When it met, when it mattered. And with that, we're going to rally for a segment three. We'll be right back with episode 57 11 news podcast. So real quick in the, uh, in between times, we realized we can't cover everything we want in one episode. So we'll, uh, the next Hey Girls episode will be revolutionary war part two. So you can get everything that we love about this amazing moment of our country's history, where we definitely got rid of those, the lobster backs from this great nation of ours and sent them back into the sea where they can enjoy
How Did Washington's Crossing Impact the War?
00:33:06
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their lives. Eat it, Stephen.
00:33:07
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Talking to you, Natasha. All right, so I think I guess I think I think we wanted to end it on just kind of Washington crossing the Delaware and ultimately not destroying his army.
00:33:23
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and kind of the importance of that. David, do you want to kind of go into that? Yeah, sure. So like I talked about like the frontier aspect of the war. All that got won by the Americans. Like we pushed that back and we defended that. Cause like I said, the guerrilla warfare and all that, I mean, for the most part we did, but Britain conquered New York. Like I grew up on Long Island and it was just a British stronghold. Like there's British, like from the war, there's like old houses and stuff you can visit and homesteads and things like that. And long Island was very much like a British,
00:33:51
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like Battle of Brooklyn and all that. And Manhattan, once you control Manhattan.
00:33:54
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It's so inland, like up in the waters there that like you're not getting rid of it. So the British took that. And then a lot of the theater happened over in the bloody battles happened over here on the East coast. One of those like retorts to that after the British like took Philadelphia or took New York was Washington kind of sailed up the from Philadelphia or down Philadelphia up the Delaware River. Was it up or down? Can't remember exactly where he was. But anyway, he crossed the Delaware River, which is part of Philadelphia.
00:34:22
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And on Christmas Eve of 1776, 75. Yeah. So we missed Valley Forge though. Valley Forge is pretty important. That was the whole, as David said, originally with George Washington's whole battle strategy was to retake New York. And if you retook through New York, they saw that as the key to winning independence after you got kicked out, they wintered in Valley Forge and almost started to death.
00:34:48
Speaker
And then as he was getting chased out of New York, I think also out of Philadelphia. Yeah. Because that was the capital of the Continental Congress and the first capital of the country. As they were retreating, they had to cross the Delaware.
00:35:05
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Yeah, which it was 1776. I just looked it up and this was midnight. The British had hired, like the British had the money. So they had like Indian soldiers. They had an Indian as in terms of like India. Oh my gosh, India. Well, you can say that I can't Indian soldiers. Uh, and they also hired a German mercenaries and they had highlanders from Scotland who came in, like we're pretty.
00:35:31
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Uh, well, like part of like they were sharpshooters and things like that too. The Hessians were German mercenaries that were like very good. Like they, they hired them for this reason for warfare. And, uh, Washington was like, uh, yeah, we don't really want to like fight them on the battlefield. So let's just cross the Delaware on Christmas Eve and kill them in their sleep, uh, in the typical American fashion. So we did that. Uh, and that was like, that's that, that huge painting. I forget who painted that, but.
00:35:58
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The German guy, and that's why there's ice in the river because that's how the rivers freeze in Germany. They get icebergs in German rivers and he'd never seen it. And so that's why there's icebergs in, but that's not what happens in the States. But yeah, they cross to get away. And then they're trying to like, we need to get out of here. Cause if that freezes over the British going to march over and George Washington had this plan, like, wait a minute, what if we cross again and sneak up on the Hessians on Christmas day? Because our winter enlistments are about to run out.
00:36:27
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Yeah. Our winner enlistments are going to fall. And also like, we need a win or else this whole idea of independence is gone. And he, uh, I think Gates wanted nothing to do with it and Washington kicked him out and told him your troops stay here. And if you utter a word about this, I will hang you. Cause him and Gates did not get along. They had a piss and match. Really? I didn't know Washington. Yep. Didn't know that according to the movie.
00:36:56
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No, I think, yeah, they were the two people vying for control of the army. And just as a clarification, Valley Forge occurs after the crossing of the Delaware, so it's part of the retreat. That's fine. No, it's okay. I think it's a part of that retreat, ultimately, out of Trenton, out of New Jersey, and finding that place in wintering in 1777 and 1778.
00:37:23
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which was again the frontier so cold there was just forts out there wasn't like you couldn't go to the city and like live inside it was bad I think the the last of the Mohicans takes place before the revolution but like if you want to understand like what the frontier looked like that's a really good example just like
00:37:41
Speaker
desolate, full of indigenous tribes and stuff like that and, you know, just scattered homesteads, but nothing like urban, which is like how it's usually painted in films. But after all these defeats and like, you know, the subtle victories of killing people in their sleep on Christmas, Han Solo comes to the rescue and Connor, you wanna talk about that?
00:37:58
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Han Solo, I mean, I think it's a good place to end it there and just say that this crossing of Delaware was hugely inspirational and kept the war effort alive, ultimately, because like Carlton mentioned that the
00:38:11
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the enlistments were running out in terms of what soldiers had committed to for serving the military. So this is ultimately something that we get inspiration from and allows us to continue this war. And if it didn't happen, I doubt we continue and I doubt we really actually get independent. Yeah. 900 Hessian prisoners.
00:38:34
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That's a lot. And they've lost like seven Continentals, like hugely inspirational. And it was also payback because the Hessian Colonel Johann Raal was a monster.
00:38:48
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and he was known for just butchering of revolutionary, so even after they surrendered.
Preview of French Aid in the Next Episode
00:38:55
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I imagine he's pretty, he's like the German version of the guy from the Patriot on horseback. You know what I'm talking about? The main antagonist. Malfoy. Yeah. Yes, that guy. Yes, that's Malfoy. But you missed my Han Solo reference. Who comes to the rescue in the revolution after this? The French? Yeah, we gotta talk about the French.
00:39:14
Speaker
What the? Han Solo? Yeah, they come in at the last minute, help fund us, bring us troops, bring us food, like they help win the war. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think that's the next episode. Yes, we'll take this. Is that okay? Because we still have like four years of war. We're only in 76. This thing doesn't end until like 80, 81. We'll tease it, but it's a big thing. The French come and help, or else we wouldn't have won. I think when do we get our own German guy who trains the troops?
00:39:40
Speaker
You guys know what I'm talking about? Are you talking about the French guy Mark? No, no, no, no, no, no. These, these German and his big thing is he's gay. Really? Yeah. He turns out the people realize now he probably left Germany because he was a homosexual. Um, what was his name? But he basically came and retrained the continental army in the north as a fighting European style army. His name was Hans Zolo.
00:40:05
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Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben von Steuben yes von Steuben and they say it the best in the last samurai when you understand a language everything falls into place but if you are being yelled at by a large German in German you will listen and you will fire better
00:40:24
Speaker
It's just a thing. Baron Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben. What's his name? He's Baron, he's a Baron. Yeah, Baron Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben. Yeah, I can't even read it, but yeah. He had, he brought his Italian Greyhound Azor with him.
00:40:43
Speaker
That's a post right there. Let's do that. Yeah. Well, so we'll continue talking about Friedrich von Wilhelm von Steuben Baron, whatever his name is. Basically compared him to the Roman God of Mars. Like that's how American soldiers saw him. He's the dude from Troy. That's Ajax.
00:41:02
Speaker
Yeah. It's just pictures of him. He is very German, very large. And, uh, yeah, he turned, turned a bunch of volunteers, a bunch of ragtag, uh, volunteers into, uh, into an army. So, so, yeah, we'll continue that hang girls part two revolutionary war, whatever, whenever that is, I think it's be like one fourth, I'd have to do part three. Yeah. So, um,
00:41:28
Speaker
I wanted to mention kind of like some experiential thing, which is, it's going to be a different, slightly tangential. Right before the COVID happened, the January before, I was lucky enough to visit Boston and kind of go to these places that occurred, these important buildings, locations in this early Revolutionary War period, you know, the Bunker Hill Monument, the Meeting House, whatever it's called.
00:41:55
Speaker
all these kind of places. And I know you guys you guys grew up kind of on the East Coast. Yeah. How was that experience of visiting these kind of these places, especially when they're surrounded by big cities? And how did you feel when you ultimately went to these places?
00:42:09
Speaker
As a kid, I was just playing Pokemon Blue on my thing and I didn't really care. But like I said, like Long Island is a British stronghold. We went to Boston all the time to see family. We went to Philadelphia and like you see all that stuff and it's like that's the oldest part of the country to us. Like obviously we're not in the Spanish part. I currently live in what is now or what was New Spain right now. That's kind of cool, I guess.
00:42:30
Speaker
Yeah, that part, it's like the history, it's just so much of it. And as a kid, like, I grew up with that. And I think we were telling this to Maddie McAllister when we had her on, but like looking at it in context now, it's like I grew up in the colonies, like, and I live in one night right now. Like I was part of the British colonial empire that connects me to
00:42:49
Speaker
Australians and South Africans and people in India. It's just a weird, like, thing to think about. Like, we're here because of that. But when I talked with you, like, growing up out west, like, things aren't as old and, like, you have, like, Oregon Trail and, like, mining stuff, I guess, but, like, that's really it. If you want to talk about that, or Carlton, do you want to go? I was born in New Mexico in a colony of Spain, then moved to the Russian colony of Oregon.
00:43:14
Speaker
And then, yeah, to the English colony of Virginia. But growing up outside of DC, of course, the Revolutionary War is a huge aspect. We have all the monuments. We go to the Smithsonian's. A lot of things are named either after Revolutionary War figures or Confederate generals. That is now being changed. Robert E. Lee High School is no longer Robert E. Lee High School.
00:43:38
Speaker
Big part in fourth grade is our big in the state of Virginia. That's when you do Virginia history. Of course, we learn about the House of Burgesses, which is the first government body in the New World, which is outside of Williamsburg. Williamsburg, Virginia is a big place. Colonial Williamsburg is great when you're an adult, boring as hell when you're a kid.
00:44:01
Speaker
It's so hot, it's so humid, no matter when you cook. But it's right next to Busch Gardens, which is always a fun place. And so we had to visit Jamestown, and also next to Jamestown pretty close is Yorktown. So we got to go visit those battlefields and some of those early significant places, especially as kids. So we were always around it.
00:44:22
Speaker
And I remember like one of my earliest memories probably of archaeology was like visiting Jamestown and seeing the ongoing excavations. Shout out to the person that worked there to talk to his mom and Brittany. What's up? So yeah, my mom was just at Jamestown two days ago when the episode released of the indigenous thing.
00:44:39
Speaker
So the way my mom describes me, she's like, yeah, my son, he's an archeologist. They're like, oh, where does he work? She's like, oh yeah, he works in Ukraine. Kobe, I don't work in Ukraine. I did that for one summer. That's not my thing. And then I guess they were listening to the podcast and my mom was like, oh, that's my son. And they were like really confused. And they're like, yeah, no, Carlton's my kid. And yeah, so those people that listen to this podcast probably know way more about my career than my own mother when she thinks I work in Ukraine.
00:45:06
Speaker
Yeah. And I just want to mention kind of my experience because you can visit Alamos out here in Colorado and you get some early Spanish history, like early folks really getting into America. And it's like, it's super ephemeral. It's not.
00:45:21
Speaker
very prominent. You know, it's hard really to connect to like this deep history, but going to Boston and actually seeing these locations preserved prominently, well-funded, well-kept, it was such an interesting experience to me.
00:45:38
Speaker
especially when all these places are surrounded by skyscrapers. The historic context is completely lost. If you think of historic preservation and section 106 and all that stuff, the context is really lost to
Visiting Historical Revolutionary Sites
00:45:52
Speaker
folks. But actually seeing these standing buildings was something that was truly momentous to me because we don't get that out here. And if we do, it's ephemeral and
00:46:00
Speaker
maybe like an old church in the ground or some leftover trinkets or something like that. It was just a surreal experience, especially because modern society grew up and now exists around these places, but they kept them there, which is super interesting to me. That's a cool point, man.
00:46:22
Speaker
I like Carlton can agree like as kids like I took it for granted for sure and I remember being on like a walking tour in New York City as a kid and Like that we literally passed by this little cemetery. It said Alexander Hamilton They're like, this is Alexander Hamilton's grave and I was like looking around not caring and I was like, oh I know that name think he died
00:46:40
Speaker
And then like walk, but like now if I would have been, especially with Hamilton being out, I would have been like, Oh cool. Let's take an Instagram post. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we also went to Monticello, which is Thomas Jefferson's home Mount Vernon, which is Washington's home. I used to bike right around Mount Vernon. And like last time I was back home, my friends had bottles of wine from the Washington vineyards that they started pumping back out. So that's, that was always just in our face. And when I tell other people that they get like really excited and I'm like, well, you know, when you grow up there, that's just kind of,
00:47:10
Speaker
That's just how it is. You just take it for granted. Like I said earlier at the beginning of the episode, one of my first experiences with archaeology, looking for this star fort that Washington supposedly built in Loudoun County during the Seven Years' War on his way to Pennsylvania to get his ass whooped. We found it via Google Maps and it was in this star fort
00:47:31
Speaker
is being shared by six or seven backyards in a suburb. We had to be really careful. We just showed up to these people's houses. Hey, we just see your backyard for anything. I don't know if anything ever went with it because we don't want people to know where it is and how the county, because it's private land type of thing. It's not disturbed. It's just a hill in someone's backyard.
00:47:54
Speaker
Good luck. If you've listened to this and you want to find it, you want to go upset upper middle-class people and their McMansions, go for it. Um, that's super interesting to me because it's just, I don't, that stuff isn't preserved out here and it just doesn't, it isn't like we don't have these big hills and buildings and stuff like that. So it's, I love, I love that part of history. And I think that's why I romanticize it more than anything like that, because it's just Colorado's like me.
00:48:19
Speaker
Growing up out East though, like it's just, it's like living at the beach. Like it's not as interesting. And like for you out there, it's like, we always imagine people in Colorado, like wrestling with bears and like skiing. And like, that's that cool, like later American history. That's like, you know, the, the idealism and like manifest destiny and all that. Like I want to go out West. That sounds cool.
00:48:39
Speaker
I'm digging holes in the ground and having to record those. That's all that the mining industry out here is. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I guess something that we hammered in a few times here in the podcast is like.
00:48:52
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or in this episode that the revolution was like started and founded in like our early nation conceived by young, unfortunately white dudes and their wives in their prime who were educated, intelligent, and like knew how to send a very long text message to King George saying like, we're breaking up. And like, he responded with, okay. It was a drug text too. This is like being done at a bar too. Like there's so many levels to this.
00:49:21
Speaker
But we had the Iroquois Confederacy come down and tell us about their way. And I don't think it happened as well as they tell it in the books, but they had such a cool representative democracy that we were like, okay, how do you guys do things? Because we need to form it this way. But the main thing was that these smart dudes who were educated
00:49:39
Speaker
made a country that was like, we're not going to have an aristocracy. We're not going to have knights. We're not going to call each other, sir, and things like that. And like, we're going to vote for each other and we're going to put each other into like office. And we don't want to be what we just separated from, which is why Washington was like, I don't want to be king. I want to be, you know, I'll represent you as a president. And like, I think that's a cool thing. And like, we could argue that the American experiment is like failed in like a lot of ways.
00:50:06
Speaker
I'm not going to go into that, but we are a superpower after World War II. It was made by grad students in a bar and a lot of dead young men. Absolutely. On that note, I want to throw out some lit recommendations. I really recommend
00:50:24
Speaker
even though David hates him and that's going to be his new nemesis. I recommend 1776 by David McCullough. There's a series at Washington Crossing. There's a series of books by Nathaniel Holbrich, who just dropped. There's one about Bunker Hill, one about kind of Cornwallis in Yorktown, and there's also one about Benedict Arnold. So I highly recommend that series of books. Anything else, guys?
00:50:52
Speaker
Uh, the Patriot, uh, that's a good one. Washington spies. That's another good one. I think the one, Oh God, what is he who plays that does the, I think it's like the Delaware crossing that whole thing in New Jersey, Trenton, I think it might be called. That's a good one. I mean, like there's so many pop culture references. I don't think I have actually like revolutionary war.
00:51:13
Speaker
books. I just have some of my stuff from undergrads. Most old white dudes in this country like middle-aged guys just eat Revolutionary War stuff up because it's well documented and like it's a cool period of history and it's a big market. So there's a lot of stuff out there but just make sure it's like an academic source not like a
00:51:34
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Here's what I think, Kevin. Yeah. Don't read Bill O'Reilly's book on it. Oh, he has a book on it. I bet he does. He has all the killing series where he's like killing those, I'ma be not giving George Washington. He just got this like, he's got this whole, like don't read those.
00:52:11
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or any of his computations.
00:52:14
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And that's a lot of that was based on the John Adams, David McCullough book. So David, go, go, go.
00:52:22
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00:55:26
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00:55:54
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Does it relate to Hancock in some way, shape, or form? It's close. What was the joke? Bone Franklin. What's a knock? Oh. Oh my gosh. Boo. Boo. It's painful. How come there's no knock-knock jokes about America? Why? Because let freedom ring.
00:56:17
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I got one more, I got one more. What was the Patriots favorite food in the Revolutionary War? Benedict, eggs Benedict? Close, chicken cacciatore. Funny because Hessian prisoners. All right, bye.
00:56:50
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