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Postgame Live: Fans react to FRUSTRATING Seattle Sounders Loss at Minnesota United!
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We react and take calls following Seattle's Matchday 29 clash against the Loons at Allianz Field.
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Introduction to the Episode
00:00:00
Speaker
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00:00:22
Speaker
Well sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be a real scorcher today. Why the scorcher today? Well it's gonna be scorcher.
00:00:44
Speaker
Good evening, everybody.
Seattle's Unbeaten Streak Ends
00:00:46
Speaker
Welcome in to your postgame live for Matchday 29. The Seattle Sounders just took a 1-0 L to Minnesota United at Allianz Field.
00:00:57
Speaker
The 10-game unbeaten streak is no more. The red-hot goal-scoring run of 26 goals in eight games was not extended. And Minnesota sweeps the season series.
00:01:12
Speaker
They won both games against the Sounders this year. And Seattle also does not pick up any ground on them in the in the race for a top four spot in the Western Conference that they they could have closed some ground tonight. They were three point three points off Minnesota's pace, so they could have yeah gone into a tie with them.
00:01:30
Speaker
Instead, they stay on 41 points. forty one points ah It was, ah you know, Noah, this was More of what like an MLS road game is usually like, you know, correct. ah The 4-0 at l L.A. was it was euphoric. It was incredible.
00:01:48
Speaker
This is normally how it goes on the road. Kind of a grind it out, pulling teeth type of game. And Seattle could never score on the on the loons.
00:02:00
Speaker
So I guess how are you feeling ah at first? And then I'll give more of my takes. How how are you doing now?
Game Analysis and Fan Frustration
00:02:06
Speaker
yeah uh i mean maybe this will illustrate it this will illustrate it no i'm gonna wait i'm gonna wait to do this bit but like it just felt it just felt frustrating i think over anything like i just everyone just looked exhausted i felt exhausted watching this match And you let Minnesota do exactly what they do, which is troll for set pieces and convert off set pieces. You let them play their game, and that is exactly what you get.
00:02:40
Speaker
They have ruined our beautiful game. They've ruined our beautiful game. They killed soccer. Minnesota United has killed soccer. Eric Ramsey, you arere ah you are you're a terrorist. We're going to be talking about the L.
Press Conference: Team's Performance Discussion
00:02:53
Speaker
We're going to take some calls later. We're also going to fire up the press conference in a minute here. So we'll just ah we riff until the pressers start. Should be any minute.
00:03:02
Speaker
But, yeah, these ah these games with Minnesota United, they're such a weird team. Like, okay, let's talk about that on the other side it. We got the pressers starting, so let's pull it up.
00:03:14
Speaker
Play the pressers while we wait for people to keep trickling in. Oh, they're tossing in on shit. We'll start with Nico Moreno. Nico, go ahead and unmute yourself and ask your question.
00:03:28
Speaker
ah Thank you. ah Obviously, an adverse result today. wanted to just hear from both you guys of what didn't quite work. It seemed like you guys had control of the game ah for the majority of it ah But what didn't quite work in terms of getting you guys maybe better and more concrete options in front of goal?
00:03:52
Speaker
I think you we we had we had a lot of a lot of half chances where we had the ball out wide. mean, it's a cross that gets cleared. This is looking like we're broadcasting from Long Acres right now. We don't end up with a clear-cut chance on goal. think that's something we've been doing really well in the last few games, but I think we just weren't able to get as many clear looks on goal as we have in the past. I think that kept them in the game throughout the periods that we were doing well, and then eventually when they – got ah got a moment, then they were able to sit back and just absorb everything.
00:04:28
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I'd say, you know, tough place to play. According to them, they have a very clear identity and and they played to that. They played to their strengths tonight.
00:04:41
Speaker
thought we, especially at the first half, controlled a lot of possession. um I don't think we got numbers behind the line as much as we would have liked and in the right spots at times.
00:04:56
Speaker
And yeah, kind of in those most critical final third moments, we didn't have that one extra bit of quality to get the first goal. yeah Like we said, created some half chances and then um you know on the goal, I'll be the first to put my hand up. I've got to get tighter to Pereira there.
00:05:16
Speaker
um on his left foot and make it harder for him, you know, we've got to step the line quicker, but um, you know, credit to him for making a play there. I think that their only really clear chance of the game and they put it away.
00:05:31
Speaker
um but yeah, I mean, I think we had really good stretches of the, stretches of the game credit to the subs who came on, you know, created some opportunities at the end there.
00:05:42
Speaker
Um, St. Clair made some good saves, but yeah, tough one.
00:05:50
Speaker
Jeremiah Oshan, go ahead.
00:05:53
Speaker
Yeah, I guess this maybe is more for Paul. ah You know, you guys have been playing pretty well, 10 games unbeaten. ah It almost seemed like you guys could put anyone on the field and and still get a result.
00:06:05
Speaker
um You rotated a little bit in this one. Does it does this do anything to diminish the the confidence the in the group, or is this or how do you how do you move forward? Yeah, I think um I don't think our confidence drops after this. I think it's a it's a good reminder for us.
00:06:23
Speaker
um You know, that's a that's a good team. They're third in the league and and we're bound to drop. You know, that's a six point swing tonight.
00:06:33
Speaker
and We just spoke in the locker room about putting this game behind us as quickly as we can. I think, you know, in each game is each play is the most important when you're in it. and And then when it's behind you, it's behind you. And now the focus is on Puebla, but,
00:06:48
Speaker
um Yeah, I think we're still rolling and Leagues Cup is obviously going to be a huge game chance of winning a trophy. But yeah, just going back to game by game and and sticking to what we know.
00:07:04
Speaker
think it's still working with great stretches of the game with possession and whatnot. And, you know, we played our style tonight, but yeah. Sometimes that's that's what happens.
00:07:19
Speaker
Jada Evans.
Breaking Through Minnesota's Defense
00:07:21
Speaker
Thanks. Thanks. Reed, with you with you guys ah just kind of going against their their defense and and that line, you guys were trying to get weave in there and and get some um opportunities.
00:07:34
Speaker
Can you talk a little bit about you know that that, about the challenges of facing that that defensive line? Yeah, I think they that's that's a big part of their identity is they have a very solid back line of five.
00:07:47
Speaker
um And we we talked about still still getting runs in behind. And there were times we were looking for it, but I don't think we were quite able to capitalize on that as much as, know, like last game against the Galaxy, we were just really able to get people in behind time after time.
00:08:05
Speaker
And so I think their line did a good job. You know, there's some service moments that ah they defended well, but I think in in moments like that when you're playing against the back line of five is you need to be really diligent about finding ways to pull people out and exploit the space you create.
00:08:24
Speaker
And I think we might not have, we really able to to pull people out and attack the space as much as so much as we have in the past other games, which is some credit to them, but also like moments that we can create overloads and try to get force force away through the letter who we're playing against.
00:08:46
Speaker
And then this could be for for either of y'all, but um you know this was like you Paul were saying like it was a important game you guys could have you know match them on points and. you know, standings, getting this close to the end of the season.
00:08:59
Speaker
Could you feel that from, from them too, that it was important to get this? And then also, I mean, this is the first time that they've swept y'all in the regular season. So did you, did you get that impression from them too, that they, that it mattered?
00:09:14
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. You know, it was a good atmosphere tonight. Um, ah especially like on set piece moments, the crowd was really engaged and and they played to that advantage.
00:09:24
Speaker
You know, I thought, um, really frustrated us with how much time they just took to delay game. mean, I think St. Clair took 45 seconds every time he had a goal kick and, um, know, they, they played the clock well in some of those moments.
00:09:42
Speaker
Um, I thought we handled it well in the first half we we We recognize the times to keep possession and when to go forward. and
00:09:53
Speaker
yeah I thought we had the upper hand after first 45. They knew what was on the line. We knew what was on the line.
00:10:03
Speaker
think we'll see them again in postseason. and yeah We always talk about trying to win the series and we couldn't do that tonight. I'm sure we're going to see them again. and um take Sounders every time in the postseason.
00:10:18
Speaker
Clip that. We'll go to Felipe Miqueta next. Felipe, go ahead and ask your question.
00:10:24
Speaker
Thank you. La pregunta es para Reed. Reed, en tu opinión, ¿qué fue lo que le
Players Reflect on the Match
00:10:44
Speaker
Well, could you repeat it again? Yes.
00:10:50
Speaker
we were playing against Minnesota, we would have ball. we did it. think the defense... In the defense...
00:11:09
Speaker
eilloto remo e coka f and answer We were well, we only had a chance to get to the a And, when you see the game in total, the opportunities that they had, they look very good and they don't think they're going to win against And offensively, we had, as I said before, many opportunities, little, where we're in the center, and we couldn't find spaces for better opportunities.
00:11:39
Speaker
potatoto don doncio centralroy no no playmo and controllo es pastio but but i andto guys me but No creo que faltaba mucho porque no tuvieron mucho en el ataque y creo que solo faltaba el gol.
00:11:59
Speaker
Finalmente en un minuto este partido tuvimos mucho, estábamos atacando siempre y la distancia de un gol no fue grande.
00:12:10
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and say
00:12:14
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Anthony Acciavatti, Thankfully, be if you'd like translation that reach out to us afterwards, we can provide it looks like we have time for two more here before moving on to coach Spencer couple follow ups what am I speed that so the Nico Rano can close us out mosquito go.
00:12:29
Speaker
Yeah hey um i'll go back to them with a positive. Hey, Reid, what was working with you and Jesus in the first half there? And then also, Paul, if if the follow-up to that would be what was working with you and Alex in the first half. So if you guys could talk about that, what was working there?
00:12:49
Speaker
I think Jesus did a but really good job of getting the ball in the pocket. They sometimes coming outside the ands san the line to receive from me the Jackson New Who. I think he did a really good job finding the moments to inside. He looked for the ball and would talk to Osaze or play in the opposite pocket. And then sometimes I was able to, the first half, run along the line and get some crosses off. So I think there were moments where it worked well. I think in the second half, I think I needed to be a little bit better on getting my touches where I'm attacking, attacking more at long line instead of
00:13:29
Speaker
ah bringing it back or it lost the ball a couple times so i think if i can be a little bit more aggressive and decisive with my ah my touches i think that would now help also i'm not kids just as well but i thought there were there were moments in the first half we were able to combine and get get some good crosses off but we didn't i think i will take some more responsibility um the responsibility then the second half i wasn't able to to get myself in those positions and get the same level of opportunities as in the first half.
00:14:05
Speaker
right, Nico Moreno, go ahead and close this
Focus on Upcoming Matches
00:14:09
Speaker
out. Just to Paul, obviously there's a midweek game and you know how key is it that you could just maybe just turn the page and just focus on the fuck that you guys have a good shot at moving forward in the competition.
00:14:27
Speaker
Yeah. um Thank you for that, Nico. I think it's critical. We're, you know, as soon as we hit the showers and after that, the game's games done.
00:14:40
Speaker
Obviously, we'll learn a little bit from the film, but I don't know how much review we'll even and do. I think it's going to be turn the page onto Puebla.
00:14:49
Speaker
Huge game midweek. you know, the games are coming pretty fast and and thankfully we've had some great depth this year different guys have stepped up and we're gonna do that again on Wednesday, but yeah, you know, it's going be about getting to travel out of our legs as quickly as possible, you know, getting couple good nights of sleep because that probably won't happen tonight as we're going to get home pretty late. But yeah, you know, four days to get ready for big one on Wednesday.
00:15:18
Speaker
All right. Thank you guys. Appreciate your time. will bring you coach Spencer.
00:15:25
Speaker
Do you want to hear something funny unrelated to this? Yeah. ah Evander just absolutely bammed on the Portland Timbys. And he was... We love to hear that. In Portland, he was giving the crowd like the... Did you hear after the like national anthem, they were chanting, fuck Evander?
00:15:44
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. so there I mean, that was the whole thing. They were heckling him a lot. Yeah. Uh, that's pretty funny that that puts a Cincy up three zero at Providence park and the Timbs just scored immediately after.
00:15:57
Speaker
So it's three, one now, but they're, uh, that'd be a worse result than when Seattle took tonight. Correct. Yeah. Correct. oh Coping. coping You have to a little bit here. yeah no that's what That's what we do on the post-game live L shows. it's it's ah people People always will be like in the chat like, oh, that's that's cope. And I'm like, yes, correct.
00:16:17
Speaker
yeah What do you think we're here for? That's what we're that's what we're doing. That's our that's like our whole thing. While we wait for Schmetz here, I can... I have something to say. Here we go.
00:16:29
Speaker
Any opening statements? I'm going to write question. All righty.
Coach Schmetzer's Tactical Analysis
00:16:34
Speaker
Mazvita, I want you know. One of these days he'll give a statement. Yeah. Hey, Brian. um Looked like you had the line share and also in the first half.
00:16:42
Speaker
My question is this. In the second half, you started it on the front foot, it looked like, and then from the 63rd minute, it looked like something changed, and they had a couple shots.
00:16:54
Speaker
You come back and put in Georgie, i mean, Pedro and Danny. What changed in that first half? from the 55th minute to like the 69th minute. Did anything change or?
00:17:07
Speaker
No, it's just momentum swings. mean, look, we, the subs I made with, you know, with Pedro coming on and Musaski, I thought the game was there for us to win.
00:17:18
Speaker
So, you know, Reid was fine, totally fine. ah D-Rowe, totally fine. But I wanted to put fresh legs and top players on the field to go for the win because I thought the game was there for us.
00:17:34
Speaker
So, you know, obviously they score a goal kind of in that period where, you know, we just couldn't look at It wasn't just the the corner kick. And we'll I'm sure we'll talk about that. But it was two throw ins over here.
00:17:47
Speaker
You know, it's just that's that's how they play. And so, you know, it's an unfortunate loss, ah but we got to push past it because Puebla is going to be the next biggest game for us. And we got to forget about this.
00:18:04
Speaker
You frustrated at the slowdown tactics? Yeah, um I'll actually address that, Moz, because in the first half, there was zero there was zero extra time.
00:18:15
Speaker
And so every time Michael Boxall goes from his center back position up to the top of the field on the left-hand side or to the top of the field on the right-hand side, how long do you think that takes? You can rewatch the film and you ah you tell me.
00:18:32
Speaker
And then it allows them time. They walk up the field. And if a team is ahead, one, nothing, and they walk up the field and they delay that much yellow cards are coming out. So why is it not the same or, you know, because that's kind of punitive and, you know, i don't really care about that, but what I wanted him to do with the referee should have done was add the extra time.
00:19:01
Speaker
If that's how we play, then just add the extra time and make it fair for us. That's all. That's all I was asking for. Thanks. Jeremiah Oshin.
00:19:14
Speaker
Brian, you know, ah you guys have been flying pretty high here and and rotating the lineup all along the way. do you still feel pretty good about the the lineup you used in this one? and And then I guess how do you keep yourself from losing momentum from these this run you guys were on?
00:19:30
Speaker
Jeremiah, we weren't going to win all the rest of our games the rest of the season. I mean, that's that that's, you know, that was never going to happen. It just happens that this is the one that we lost. i was happy with the starting group. I was happy with the tactics in the first half.
00:19:44
Speaker
You know, the first half, we were just this close. We needed that one more little bit of extra, little, you know, a little something to get us a goal to play from the front. you You know, even in the start of the second half, I thought we started on the front foot, pinned him back.
00:19:58
Speaker
ah So, yeah, I was happy with the lineup. We've got three days of rest till Wednesday. And going to start another good team because this was a good team.
00:20:09
Speaker
We're going to start another good team on Wednesday. And then we're going to start ah another good team the following game because we have a deep roster. Jada Evans.
00:20:20
Speaker
Thanks. ah Brian, kind of going with the with the game plan, like you said, I mean, it there it did almost work. with With what Osario had, is it a matter of a little bit of technique or veteran you know experience to get some of those headers? Because he seemed like he was right there with a couple of them and those could have gone in. like But yeah, I mean, when you kind of look at those or think about that.
00:20:47
Speaker
Well, look, he's got a bright future. He's got a lot of good starting points, Jada. And it just takes a little bit of seasoning. he's How many MLS minutes does that kid actually have?
00:20:59
Speaker
How many professional minutes with us at the first team level does that and kid have? So you have to always take that into consideration. I think, you know, number one, the kid puts the work in.
00:21:12
Speaker
i was pleased with the defending effort. You know, he chased guys down. He pressed in the right moments. ah You know, the front three, Jesus, Osaze, and Paul did a good job pinning Minnesota back at times.
00:21:25
Speaker
So I can't complain about those things, which are non-negotiables. And, you know, the goals are going to come for them, the headers, timing, all that sort of stuff that's going to come. And then ah my second thing was with that Minnesota, like sports are cyclical. So this is the first time that they've swept you. Do you feel things? yeah Do you do you feel a shift, though? I mean, you know, you've you've been in this position with other clubs and got your final, you know, your final win or whatever. So do you feel that there's a shift ah with Minnesota?
00:21:58
Speaker
ah Jada, I chuckled because, you know, what I brought up in my pregame speech was the last time we were here, we won 3-2. And it was a good game. Jackson had a really good header.
00:22:09
Speaker
ah Jordan scored on a transition moment when we were defending high up the field. And then Albert on a second action of a set piece. And I told the team, I said, look, you guys should have confidence coming in here. I don't where the camera can play against this team.
00:22:24
Speaker
And again, I think they did a great job. I mean, they did a, you know, in a lot of moments, except for that one critical moment where it's life or death inside the penalty box. And, you know, we, we take a goal on a set piece, which, you know, that's their strength. And, you know, in that moment we, you know, needed.
00:22:44
Speaker
Oh, sorry.
00:22:48
Speaker
Come on. What is this guy doing? Brian, it's always hard to lose with the team when you had these many game winning games.
00:23:00
Speaker
and But at the same time, the team didn't have the urgency to score until the team was on the ah scoreboard. What can you tell me about that? I disagree with that 100%.
00:23:14
Speaker
I think that they play a different style. So you're used to us attacking, attacking, attacking, but against opponents like this, you can't rush things. You can't force things.
00:23:25
Speaker
That's what they want you to do. They want you to rush. They want you to force passes so that they can go and transition. So I thought our game plan in the first half was excellent. We had the majority of the possession. Our expected goals totals were there.
00:23:39
Speaker
the Again, the only thing was missing was
00:23:44
Speaker
Ended by host. Oh, hold on. I got it back on another tab. We're good. I disagree.
00:23:54
Speaker
beginning So I would disagree with you. hey Nico Moreno. ah Thank you. Brian, I just wanted to know, it seems like you're pretty happy with Reid's performance today, but ah what was it about what Reid provided for you today that seemed like the right option to go there at the starting spot at the left wing?
Impact of Rotation and Injuries
00:24:17
Speaker
And was holding Pedro back, did it have anything to do with the tinnitus you kind of mentioned earlier this week, or was it just the Puebla game midweek? Injured again. Look, Nico, it's rotation.
00:24:27
Speaker
I mean, I can't play Pedro every game. Other guys have to step up. Reid was good. You know, he did his job. ah You know, I have to rotate the team in some way, shape or form.
00:24:41
Speaker
Look, it got a little trickier because, you know, we lost Kent. We lost Albert. You know, we're we're down a couple of guys. I mean, if you talk about, you know, two DPs, Joe Paulo, Paul Areola, I mean, we're missing some critical guys and we're playing head to head, toe to toe against, you know, a team that's had a great season. So, you know, that was just a rotation thing. And, you know, Pedro is going to come back in the next game and and be the Pedro we love to see.
00:25:14
Speaker
Thank you, Brandon. Just real quick. And Kim was also at the bench. Is he okay? Is everything all right with Kim? He's fine. He had a little calf tightness. And that was my decision. That was my decision not to risk him again, because we've got a lot of fixture congestion.
00:25:28
Speaker
So he had a tight calf and I said, okay, Kim, it's okay. We're going to need you here in the stretch of games. you know the turnaround between Puebla and Kansas city is very tight. And so I'm trying to be cautious. I'm trying to rotate, you know, we have to be smart about that
00:25:45
Speaker
right, looks like we have three more hands up but for a few follow-ups before concluding here. ah So we'll go to Maz Vida next. Go ahead. Hey, Brian, what did you think of your your captain back behind the pipes, if you will, and then who, and I think Andrew will start against Puebla, right?
00:26:03
Speaker
Yeah, good. Steph was fine. I mean, it was good. He didn't have much to do. So look, getting him back up on the horse was a good thing. And, you know, I thought he had a good performance. When you say you needed an extra, that extra something, was that an extra man in the box?
00:26:21
Speaker
Didn't seem like when you went the other side, you had as many people runners. I know it's early haven't looked at the film, but. ah Yeah, I mean, i'd have to look at the film Maz, but you know,
00:26:35
Speaker
Having numbers in the box is one thing, but where they're spaced is another. So you can't have three guys in one area and leave a space out here.
00:26:46
Speaker
You got to make sure there's one, one, one, one. You got to get them in the right areas. So again, vision is the key. You can't make a good decision unless you see the whole field. And that applies in the 18-yard box as well.
00:27:00
Speaker
Thank you. ah Jeremiah, go ahead.
00:27:05
Speaker
Yeah, just thinking about that, ah the goal, Paul was a little hard on himself saying that he needed to to close it out a little bit better. It seemed like Steph may have sort of got and expected a ah touch there maybe.
00:27:19
Speaker
How do you assess what happened on that play?
Analyzing Defensive Errors
00:27:22
Speaker
Well, the but the sequence happened, Jeremiah, with the two throw-ins that they had on the opposite side of the field that we couldn't clear.
00:27:30
Speaker
and then the corner kick came. And then on the corner kick itself, you know we were set up properly. ah but you know, Paul's got to go out and he knows the guy's left footed.
00:27:41
Speaker
So you always want to make the team play one more pass. And so if Paul takes a better angle, he either blocks a shot or he makes the ball go back to the next guy, which allowed our next defender to go put pressure on that guy or Paul, if it's close enough.
00:27:57
Speaker
And so you always want to make teams make one more pass and Then if you watch that film closely, Obed was actually held. That's what they were checking on the film.
00:28:08
Speaker
So center forward was holding Obed, and that's what kept him on side. And so Obed, what he needed to do was just...
00:28:19
Speaker
somehow release and get up with the rest of the line. And then they would have had three guys offside. And so that in turn compounds Steph coming out for the ball because, you know, there's guys right in front of them.
00:28:31
Speaker
And so the whole play, you know, look, I would say you probably have to give them some credit because that's who they are, but we could have done better in that moment for sure. All right, Jenna, you can close this out.
00:28:48
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah, that was um one of my questions. Well, I guess maybe just ah what you were saying to, or what did you kind of say to the team afterward and and what was, did they take it very hard, I guess? No.
00:29:02
Speaker
They're not going to win everything, but. Jada, what I told him, about thank you for saying that last bit right there. And sorry if I cut you off. ah That's exactly what I told him.
00:29:13
Speaker
I said, we're not going to win every game from here out to the rest of the season. And we have to push past this pretty quick. I want them to get the physical recovery right now. When we come back to Seattle, they're going to do absolute physical recovery when they come in on Monday.
00:29:28
Speaker
But we actually have to push past this mentally because the next game is a different tournament.
Mental Recovery and Future Focus
00:29:35
Speaker
And it's a different opponent. And so I'm not going to sit there and dwell. We're not going to watch a ton of film about this game. We're going actually focus on, you know, Puebla.
00:29:44
Speaker
They've got a new coach. They fired their coach. So, you know, who who are they going to play? All of those sorts of things. But I really want the team to kind of push past this. learn from our mistakes and learn where we can do better, of course, we have the same ah process that we always do to review, but the review might be a little shorter this time, because we want to really focus on the game on Wednesday.
00:30:07
Speaker
And this might be silly, but does it does it matter at all as far as not being able to get a goal? I mean, obviously there is the the loss, but it's been a minute since you guys have even not scored. So does does that factor into this? Well, no. Again, we'll watch the tape, Jada, but I thought, you know, our expected goals was pretty close two.
00:30:28
Speaker
You know, I think we had some good chances. I don't know how Jackson doesn't get bad. I don't know how Alex is shot. throw You know, somehow find the back of the net. Pedro came on, and had some dangerous chances.
00:30:39
Speaker
You know, Georgie had some good movements. I think our attacking was still pretty good. it just, you know, this game, it wasn't to be.
00:30:49
Speaker
Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Coach. Appreciate your time. Thank you. thanks coach he ended that one for you no way he just xg merchanted that's uh that's crazy it's a very uh normal thing that coaches look at unfortunately no but like he's he's the guy who literally will be like yeah i don't really take much from statistics like i hear i hear whatever he dropped schmetz drops schmetz is an xg guy he like All right. All right. All right. I've got a, I've got a bit. I have to do a bit here. Ari. Can I do my bit? Go. Yeah. Go for it. Do do your bit. And then we'll ah riff on this game a little more. Yeah. ah So this was wonderful by the Minnesota United loons. um
00:31:29
Speaker
The, the, the, the style of soccer that they have figured out how to play something that I have literally never seen before in my entire life. And frankly, Eric Ramsey, ah he's convinced me he's convinced me Ari. Yeah.
00:31:45
Speaker
He's changed my mind about soccer.
00:31:50
Speaker
It's Loon's time, baby. It's Loon's time. It's Loon's era, all right? Do you understand that you don't have to? You don't have to be good at soccer. You just have to get set pieces, okay? You can concede 85% of possession.
00:32:06
Speaker
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because we'll still beat you, all right? We'll still beat you. It'll be insanely good, and and we're so good, and up the Loon's wonder wall.
00:32:20
Speaker
And after Wonderwall. This is not a not a popular bit in the chat right now. Not a popular bit. I could probably yeah i probably could have guessed that it wouldn't be a popular bit in the chat. you do they are ah They are fire kits. Like, I...
00:32:39
Speaker
ah you You got to give that to him. One super chat and I will take off the loons jersey. Actively losing subscribers. Yeah. I mean, I guess sometimes you got to make sacrifices for the bit.
00:32:50
Speaker
um ah Where to go from there? um Don't worry, chat. I won't wear either of them. I won't wear either of them. Okay. You were...
00:33:03
Speaker
Talk about Minnesota United. let's start i had I have takes on that. I have takes on that. I didn't hear what you said, but ah give your takes. ah All right. just Minnesota United, like the way they play, I want to be able to hate.
00:33:17
Speaker
yeah i want I want to be able to hate, but like... You got to respect it. You got to respect it. You got to respect it. It works. That's like, if anyone hasn't watched them a lot all year, that was like the quintessential. Dude, they they played exactly.
00:33:30
Speaker
Yeah. Like, they took it to an extreme in this game to the point
Minnesota's Strategic Playstyle
00:33:34
Speaker
where like... ah You know, there's point on the broadcast they were saying, they're like, man, well, you got to think if it stays zero zero ah that kind of benefits Minnesota United here.
00:33:45
Speaker
was like, dude, those commentators, I don't think they've ever watched Minnesota United play because they kept saying like, this Minnesota United is playing terrible. they're They've got no possession. They're not like shooting. ah they They haven't been able to have any attacking spells. i was like,
00:34:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's like, that's the real fit. So I realize i realized like what it is. like They literally just play every game like they're the road team. like Yeah. those Those tactics are phenomenal like for a road game.
00:34:16
Speaker
But like they study where they do it at home. The commentators were saying they never play like this, which is like hilarious. They've clearly never watched the Loons. That's absolutely what they do every single week.
00:34:28
Speaker
ah Which, you know like I said, i would i would talk shit on it, but like it works. They've been winning games with it all season, and they beat Seattle with it twice. So you know who am I to question it, I guess? ah blood Take notes. like I think so. people People in chat were also taking issue with a couple of the things that Schmetz said.
00:34:47
Speaker
ah Number one, that, you know, that he said they're not going to they weren't going to win every single game from now until the end of the season, ah which unfortunately you which here comes the reality police over here. Unfortunately, that is true.
00:35:01
Speaker
Like they are 10 days talking to you. like How dare you be real and honest and not not like insane, Ari? Don't you know that this is the deepest team in MLS history? They should be winning every game eight no And the fact that you would even suggest to me right now that that is not what would happen, you're a fake fan.
00:35:25
Speaker
You're a sellout. Craig Weibel probably paid you. Craig Weibel probably paid you $100,000 to say that instead of signing Noah Ohio. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Showing, showing over here, showing like a villain.
00:35:35
Speaker
But, ah like, yeah, they were going to take an L at some point, you know. They were 10 unbeaten. It was a good run. Shout out to the 10 unbeaten. But I think this – I don't want to downplay. Like, this is a ah this is a tilting L. This is a tilting L because – I actually, ah the other thing people were taking issue with was when Schmidt said he felt like they executed the game plan well in the first half.
00:35:58
Speaker
i thought i I thought the exact same thing. I thought that the game plan actually was the right idea, at least when you're playing a team like this. the The way that they slowed it down like that and ah weren't, like he was saying, playing into, ah what what what they prey on is if you get impatient and undisciplined.
00:36:18
Speaker
So the fact that they were kind of Seattle put like an exaggerated game plan out in their own right of just being like, all right, if they're going to let us keep the ball this much, let's keep the ball. Let's like knock it around. Let's slow it down and not let this become like a track me transition type of game that they thrive on.
00:36:37
Speaker
So in that way, I thought the game plan was, was sound. And in the first half, they, uh, they executed it pretty well in the sense that I felt like I felt like the longer it was zero zero, the more that plays toward Seattle, because then if you just you keep it like that you just Nick one, then you get the one zero win. But like where it kind of ah fell short was they weren't able to they weren't able to score on Minnesota's ah like absorb pressure, yield possession type.
00:37:08
Speaker
uh, setup and tactics. And so all it took was the, the, them being the greatest set piece team on earth. Apparently you knew they were going to get one from one of these, like, Oh yeah. Would have been too much to ask that up until that point, I was like, man, they actually have gotten this far into the game without conceding a set piece goal.
00:37:24
Speaker
And then, but like you concede enough of them to that team. They're just, they do that every week. They do that every week. So in that way, it kind of, you just got had by like the classic, Minnesota United thing. But I think the the disappointing thing is obviously like this team had been scoring so many goals and like all you needed, all you needed was one goal in this game and you could have taken a result that wouldn't have been phenomenal, but that would have been fine. Like a one zero at Minnesota.
00:37:49
Speaker
I would have, would have taken that. Uh, and then the other thing people were taking issue with as far as like his lineup choices. Um, I mean, you, like, I was glad that he rotated to the extent that he did. Obviously the double pivots, never going to get a single minute of, we have to talk about that. Like, uh, like as far as not starting De La Vega, was okay with that.
00:38:11
Speaker
i I do wish Georgie would have started. And I think that was, uh, that was shown by, i thought, I thought, I don't know if you felt different. You were saying he was fumbling or something. I thought, I didn't say that.
00:38:22
Speaker
Oh, okay. Where, you know, okay. Maybe I'm tripping. No, that was just the entirety of blue sky was like, we need to euthanize Georgie Manungu. I thought he looked, thought he looked awesome. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't listen.
00:38:33
Speaker
What are these blue sky crash outers talking about? I genuinely didn't understand. Cause like, I don't think he played like, amazing but i don't think that he was like somehow selling this match i thought he was no i thought he was actively good he created the best chance of the game uh with that with that ball in that yamore oh yeah where he he megged the defender and that was all georgie he had a couple of other really good runs where he was doing his thing where he moss defenders so i would have liked to see the blue sky brigade as far as ah as far as like
00:39:08
Speaker
if he should have thrown the first choice 11 out, out there, like with De La Vega and everything, like with the, with the schedule as it is right now, like that would have been, i don't think that would have been the smart thing to do.
00:39:20
Speaker
So it's just, it just didn't quite work, but hu i have, I have, I was just talking for a while. I want to, I have a few questions here. um I think I agree with you about the first half. Like, I don't think that the first half was all that bad. I thought they played,
00:39:38
Speaker
They played them well. I thought they played to their game plan. They they didn't concede, you know, dangerous. they didn't they didn't They didn't get themselves into a dangerous situation, which is conceding any sort of corner, deep throw in like set piece foul towards the end. They were very.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah. And not letting them get out in transition, not letting them get out in transition. And the second half, they absolutely got tired, which is what happens when you're playing on the road.
00:40:06
Speaker
And the the game opened up a lot. And I think that there were a lot of mistakes. And and just like
Player Fatigue and Rotation Needs
00:40:14
Speaker
tired legs. And I want to bring this up because you talked about the double pivot.
00:40:18
Speaker
What the hell? why r Why is Obed Vargas playing in this match? He looked tired the entire game. he was He was uncharacteristically, ah not i don't want to say bad, but like I'm just going to use that word. He was uncharacteristically bad. like He was making passes and interceptions that were leading to turnovers that were we're turning the game. And i just i I think that he was very gassed in this game.
00:40:48
Speaker
And it's like, yeah, he's in in like third string star brings up here. It's okay because he's going to play another game in three days. So it's like, why can we not see any rotation at this double pivot? Why did both of these players play the entire match?
00:41:03
Speaker
I'm, i I respect the durability, but I think they both showed fatigue today. I don't know what you saw there. I definitely, Obed had the one giveaway on like the back heel. That was really, that was a great, not good, but I, that looked to me just like a ill-advised decision more than like physical fatigue. Although maybe that's mental fatigue. It looked more mental, not like he couldn't run. it was just like, he looked good. He was, I mean, and take what you want from foot mob ratings, because that means Jack shit.
00:41:34
Speaker
He had the lowest rating ah of anyone. he was 78% on his passing He had no successful dribbles. ah He, he, he didn't win a single tackle.
00:41:48
Speaker
um He, yeah, like, let's see here. He only, he won 27% of his duels. That's uncharacteristic. That's uncharacteristic. That's, that's not a good performance from him.
00:41:58
Speaker
And, i just I don't know if he was tired or if it was a game where he was off because guess what? Just like Brian said and people in the chat were crashing out about, you can't win every game and not every game is going to be a perfect performance from you.
00:42:10
Speaker
But I do think that he should have come out. the the Why is he playing every single minute of every game? it's it's It's terrifying me, man. It's terrifying me. They're running him into the ground.
00:42:23
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, maybe the hope is after this this League's Cup knockout game. Christian had a quote recently where he alluded to, like, we just got to like make it through this kind of crazy stretch, and then maybe we can get it. And then you're are the playoffs?
00:42:37
Speaker
Well, like, League's Cup specifically, I think, because they're juggling both of those right now, and both those guys are still playing every single minute of every single game. Because we're not. We're not Bundesliga. We're not in the Bundesliga. This is such a stupid take. Chatters, it's such a stupid take. No one has ever gone that many games in Major League Soccer down the stretch while also juggling another tournament.
00:43:02
Speaker
it's It's not a thing. It's not a thing. What are we what are we talking about? be Be real. Be real. Come back to reality. Come back to reality. I'm crashing out. I mean, like, ah it's just not typically how it goes in... Ten games is great! In, like, high-level sporting competition in general, you don't, like, usually go undefeated for an entire season.
00:43:27
Speaker
But especially MLS, because of, like, stuff like fixture congestion, the salary cap, like... but I mean, I guess those are the two main factors. You have a billion games with rosters that are like inherently kind of not that deep because of the the rules and regulations and the and the cap and all that.
00:43:47
Speaker
It makes it like you don't really... you, you see teams that have like crazy good runs of form and crazy good seasons, but you never see a team that's like going to make it through a hole. also I'm sorry. without taking a no If we're talking about buyer Leverkusen, it's the only time that has ever been done in the history of the Bundesliga.
00:44:06
Speaker
So what are we talking about? That, that, that league's been around for like hundreds of years. That was the most insane possible thing to do. for For me, it's not that they took an it's, uh,
00:44:19
Speaker
it's It's that they really... they should like They should have been able to take a result in this in this game. like yes But where does Snyder be? They shouldn't have gotten shut out. they shouldn't They should have been able to get a goal in this game. But I guess ah for me, my ultimate... Where I land is like if they...
00:44:35
Speaker
If they come out in this League's Cup game and they smash on Pueblos and they look more like the team that they had over these last 10 games, then I'm i'm not going to be tripping about this this L all that much.
00:44:45
Speaker
If it like starts to lead to them like a downturn in form and they don't look like that team anymore, maybe they lay an egg against Pueblos. Then at that point, well we'll take that situation as it comes.
Leagues Cup Prioritization
00:44:59
Speaker
But like for me, Leagues Cup is kind of the priority right now anyway.
00:45:03
Speaker
This game was a big game, and it would have been nice to have, and they should have been able to take a point. But if they if they perform well in Leagues Cup, then...
00:45:14
Speaker
if they perform well in in leagues then i I'll forgive it. You'll get my yeah seal of forgiveness if you just win this League's Cup game, play well.
00:45:25
Speaker
It's a frustrating result, but like, and like, I'm just going leave it at that. It's a frustrating result. It's not the end of the world though. but that the that This Minnesota team is just, it's, they're like frustrating to play against. Yeah.
00:45:37
Speaker
They, they play, they were able to effectively perform their game plan in the second half. We were not able to convert the chances that we had in the first half. And that was part of the problem. And that brings me to this next question. Are you We talked about this on the podcast a little bit.
00:45:57
Speaker
You were super stoked on De Rosario, our goat, our our boy, our tree trunk man. We love him. um But, you know, today was not his best performance. He's a young striker. He's going to have ah days like that.
00:46:11
Speaker
Danny Musavsky had days like that often. But you were kind of banging against not signing a U22 dynamic number nine. i I know that one game is just one game.
00:46:23
Speaker
But looking at this game with 2020 vision and that take that you had before, did it change your perspective on anything a little bit or are you still sinus? ah No, because i'm I was judging that off like D-Rose, like whole body of work over this last stretch, which I i still think in spite of this game, don't know.
00:46:41
Speaker
has been good and he, he does have three goals in that time. So I still think there's at least a discussion worth having about if that should change your priorities there. But as for his game for today, Schmidt said he started him because he wanted his like aerial threat and that they thought key to this game was going to be him jumping with the Minnesota CBs and like,
00:47:02
Speaker
Which he did get three shots on target. Exactly. that's i mean, that's what i was going to say. Like, especially there's that one that he, he barely missed that. I mean, that could have changed the game right there. ah That was, that he was in a good spot.
00:47:15
Speaker
He, he came up to meet the header. Well, he just he put it too high. So yeah, I mean, he was not, ah you know, he didn't get a goal. So it wasn't as good as his appearances lately, yeah,
00:47:27
Speaker
ah with the With the fixture congestion and need to rotate and stuff, and the fact that Schmitz felt like that he was best suited for the game plan and the opponent and stuff, didn't mind starting him. and ah it's It's frustrating because it felt like he was he was close at least twice. and really like that one in a game In a road game like this against upper-tier opponent, especially one of this style, you're probably only going to have... like two three chances like really good clear chances in a given game like that as the road team so if you if you don't take those if you if you barely miss them like they did on a couple of those then you can end up taking the l and that's what happened but uh
00:48:13
Speaker
Nah, I mean, we'll see what happens with the rest season with D-Row. I'm not like planting my flag on the take that like he already has decided that I want to decide We know Ari doesn't plan his flag on takes. We know he doesn't plan his flag on takes. I'm not planting my flag on that yet. I mean, if he keeps banging in goals, I will play my flag on that.
00:48:31
Speaker
But like it's it's too small a sample. You got to plant it, dude. Plant it. ah My take on it is less so a negative on De Rosario. I think that to the to the point that they made the game plan so that he could be an aerial threat, I think that that worked.
00:48:47
Speaker
But I do think, and I stick with what I said on the podcast, is having the ability to bring in a dynamic striker in a time like this where the way that you were looking, just it just wasn't working. Danny Musavsky didn't do anything.
00:49:00
Speaker
He didn't do anything. And that's not his fault necessarily. That's just they couldn't really get the ball to him in a position where it mattered. And so De Rosario, Danny Mussovsky, playing a very similar style of game, if you're able to bring in that dynamic number nine, that's awesome.
00:49:16
Speaker
That gives you a different type of look to kind of get you out of a jam, potentially, in a situation like this where you have a team that's trolling you. Literally, this team wasn't just like, you know where people are trying to troll a draw? This team was trolls.
00:49:29
Speaker
Minnesota United is the They're doing a bit. They're doing a bit. They're doing a bit constantly. It's awesome. And it works. It works. And it works. Not hating. Can't hate. Can't hate on the bit. just It works. They just took a dub off it. So I will say, like ah like, imagine if Seattle played like that at home, dude. We would not be...
00:49:49
Speaker
We would have killed Zogger, which we did famously. is pronounced, which, you know, again, like, ah they are up near the top of the West this year playing like that.
00:50:00
Speaker
So, you know, go with what works. Maybe Eric Ramsey is the guru and has figured that out, but it was... It definitely made this game pretty frustrating to watch. and it Even down to like the time-wasting tactics to to sit on the 1-0. Dude, Brian's getting fined for that, That is CONCACAF road team tactic. Like...
Goalkeeper Performance and Team Depth
00:50:22
Speaker
Usually MLS teams try and get on top of you in the first 20 minutes of the game at home and they just don't. but They say, you want the ball? Here, take it. We don't give a shit. yeah You're not going to score on us.
00:50:33
Speaker
So knock it around. Have fun. We're going get one set piece opportunity. We're going to win the game. And then they do. Yeah, I'm interested to see how it plays in the playoffs because especially over two-leg series. That's next.
00:50:45
Speaker
Over a two-leg series or three legs or whatever. Against the best teams. You have to play a lot of games against the best teams. I mean, it worked against it worked against Seattle. And this essentially would be a like this is we would play. If we were to play them right now, we would play in Minnesota.
00:51:00
Speaker
And it would be a very – it wouldn't be a rotated as rotated of a lineup as it is now. But that said, you know, that's that's that. yeah I had another one here. Did you see Pedro de la Vega has a little tendonitis?
00:51:18
Speaker
Oh, yeah i mean, yeah. Schmetz talked about that at ah training this week. I mean... is he beating the case? Is he beating the injury-prone allegations? I mean, until he messes time with it, I'm not going to put that on him.
00:51:28
Speaker
But it's it's not a not what you want, necessarily. No, you don't want that. but I don't want that. If he's playing through it and still being effective, which... Oh, man. Which I don't think he was tonight.
00:51:41
Speaker
I mean, he almost scored. Yeah. So, I mean, I know that was like a distance shot. that That's another thing. is like That's all these's he does. He's cooking on those outside-the-box bangers, bro. See, the thing is, like when i mean when he takes those, I don't even dismiss it as low percentage because like that they're not that percentage. a medium percentage. He almost made... that Dane St. Clair made two crazy saves at the end, and then they also had a guy clear one off the line. and And, I mean, you can you can ah you can laugh at Schmetz bringing up the XG. That's fine.
00:52:09
Speaker
But, like, I think... based on the chances that they generated. Like, they played well enough to get a goal, which they didn't score one. I so i know that. But, like, ah it's not it's not like they ah they didn't have their chances in this game. The chances were there.
00:52:26
Speaker
but like It does pay to have a good goalkeeper, which I did want to ask you about. I saw a lot of comments in the chat saying... slam andy t back in there where's andy t bring him back fry retire um x y and z where are you sitting on this because it did look like a bit of a goalkeeping blunder perhaps um on the it was weird it was weird it looks like also he did this five star formation yeah I don't know what that It looks like he lost the ball in his sight line entirely, or I don't know if he's anticipating a touch that never happened or something. That was unfortunate, without a doubt.
00:53:12
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. i'm I'm a little torn on it, I guess, because um Andy T has been doing great. Uh, and he's been like, they've been in a rhythm with him playing all leagues cup.
00:53:23
Speaker
Uh, but like when we had and regular games, yeah. When we've had these discussions in the, in the past, uh, fry always seems to come up with one of those games where he like saves the team and saves the game and stuff like that.
00:53:37
Speaker
And for me, ah I'm just so used to like the, like i I trust Fry in a big game over pretty much anyone. And I still feel that way, even if he let one get by him tonight in unfortunate fashion.
00:53:52
Speaker
i think I mean, I, yeah, I mean, there its there's a, there's a discussion because of how Andy T has been playing and, and then that goal night. I'm always willing to push the NDT agenda, as you know, but I do want to give Fry a little bit of um credit. It's his first game back.
00:54:09
Speaker
You know, like he was he was out for a minute with a kick. I mean, that's like, you know, undoubtedly, you're not as confident. You're not as ah ready. i think maybe they should have waited to start him at home, given him another week to rest. And but yeah. you do have to get him back in there yeah exactly how do you make that decision but you were about to have three like basically a three-game home stretch uh where you could have played him and gotten andy t ready for this midweek game but i also understand you're like we want to give andy t the it's it's a do doomed if you do doomed if you don't because what if andy t lets one in what if he lets two in what if he lets you know it's like it's a classic goalkeeping uh situation where I think that, yeah, like he did make a blunder, but the lack of ability to finish the chances that the Sounders had the end of the day, that's what it comes down to because something you alluded to and even said was you always knew they were going to get one off a set piece.
00:55:05
Speaker
You always knew. It never fails. It never fails. I don't know. um I'll go back there. I can't remember the last time I watched highlights of a looms game and they didn't have at least one off a set piece. It's just, it it's like clockwork.
00:55:18
Speaker
I've never, I've honestly, i have never seen an MLS team that plays like they do. It's very, uh, it's just such like a unique style that it presents like a whole kind of different, uh, set of variables to game plan for than your average and MLS team, especially one that's like this high up on the table. They do what they do very well.
00:55:42
Speaker
So, uh, Seattle got burned by it this season. They they got swept by the loons, man. so They got swept by the loons. I think, i you know, ah can can I cope? because Let's cope. cope right You cope while piss, because I have to use the bathroom here. I drank this entire thing of
Reflection on Past and Future Matches
00:56:02
Speaker
tea. Chat, chat. You timed me, okay? Ready?
00:56:06
Speaker
Ready? um I guess my hope is that i don't i don't want to I don't want to let this L necessarily overshadow what's been a fantastic 10-game on beat and run where they've been scoring goals at a ah historic rate for the club. That was all still good footy, and that was all still encouraging stuff.
00:56:33
Speaker
and So really, i again i mean, again, to me, it sort of comes down to how this League's Cup game goes. ah For me personally, if they take care of business in that game, look like the juggernaut of recent weeks again in that game, move on in League's Cup, I'm just going to forget this game ever happened.
00:56:56
Speaker
that's what i'm That's how I'm going to cope. You guys can cope however you want.
00:57:02
Speaker
But... really leagues cups, the priority right now, it was not great timing for a game of this magnitude, like table wise, because you're juggling the juggling that tournament right now.
00:57:18
Speaker
But you're also in a situation where you got a chance to make a run at a at a trophy. So, uh, that's my, that's my cope. Uh, you guys, should we, should we take some calls or whatever? I mean, yeah, but if you guys are annoying, I'm going to leave.
00:57:37
Speaker
So don't be annoying.
00:57:40
Speaker
ah i mean unless I mean, do you have anything else that you want to do ah to riff on with this? Have we missed anything? I feel like... i don't know. I don't know. It's just... it's just One minute even? like i think i think ah like I don't have anything else to say. We've been flying so high the last few weeks that a game like this definitely...
00:58:01
Speaker
feels like a letdown. This is life on the road in MLS. Sometimes these are tight games. They're competitive games. They're decided on the margins. Sometimes you, uh, you're on the wrong side of that.
00:58:12
Speaker
So that is life to an extent. Uh, you were not going to make it unfortunately through the rest of this season without, without losing a game.
00:58:25
Speaker
So, that's yeah. it's it's let's yeah bring that up Someone's to bring that up. haven't had an l We haven't had an L in 10 games. it's like any L. It comes down to how you respond. Yeah, we had hella Ls earlier in the season, and no one was saying shit.
00:58:39
Speaker
Oh, they were. they They were. We were, too. We've been 10 of these shows in a row without an L. Listen, I get it. The last L we took was against Palace El Chama. And so now you have to lose against the loons. Those felt like those. Honestly, I was vibing so hard after those games that those felt like dub shows. Exactly. So I get it. i get it I get it.
00:59:00
Speaker
I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. get it. Are we tossing the link in there? Yeah, toss the link in there. i'm All right. All right. and then Anyways.
00:59:13
Speaker
Okay, chat. But Colin and be ready. You guys want to come. annoying. cope.
00:59:20
Speaker
Come cope. No one's been annoying yet. No one's been annoying yet. No one is super chatted either. no one is No one has liked the video. No one is super chatted.
00:59:31
Speaker
No one has... Liked the video. We forgot to... no one has No one has become a member. No one has subscribed. Everyone's just sitting here absorbing my my vibes without, you know...
00:59:49
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. ari I don't know what to say about this game. It feels it feels fine to me. I guess James. James tapping in. Let's go.
01:00:00
Speaker
Let's go. James. are You ready? but Welcome. james in
01:00:12
Speaker
Oh, hey there. mike my Oh, there we go. Now you're back. Okay. Yeah, we are. Yeah. Got upgrade the Wi-Fi, James. Okay. i Hopefully this will work out.
01:00:26
Speaker
I live in Idaho, man. Our Wi-Fi is not all that great. Yeah. Lots of potatoes, I know you were saying that you hadn't... Very true. You're saying you hadn't seen soccer like the Lune before. you're You're too young to remember the glory days of Sam Allardyce's Bolton. It was the exact same thing.
01:00:44
Speaker
It was all long row-ins, lumping it up. I thought Eric Ramsey invented this shit. Big brick shithouse center forward. They were the Bolton were the first team in the Premier League to score more goals from set pieces to play.
01:00:56
Speaker
So that was about 20 years ago. I think that was the Minneapolis-Minnesota blueprint. So... um Yeah, I felt like this game, I think, because we talked about the depth, which is there, but it feels like it it's always the same thing where we've got ah the depth where when we're playing teams, okay, or not that great, we can weather it.
01:01:23
Speaker
And then we come up against a team that's pretty well style questions aside, like Minnesota and And we're just the end talent. I mean, we beat Cruz Azul.
01:01:34
Speaker
You know, that it it's... Something's going on there, man. I don't know. Oh, come on. I don't know if they drank the same water. No, you can't caveat that. We're doing the Roosnack bit. We're doing the Roosnack bit.
01:01:50
Speaker
Look, I lagged him. I got him so good, I lagged him out. it was awesome. I enjoyed...
01:01:57
Speaker
I enjoyed hell out of that game. I hit the hell out of that game for sure. But I mean, it it was it was a bad Cruises' little performance. you know um But you know we changed a lot of things for this Minnesota game. you know We got a new formation, different players are in there, and it's a loss by one goal.
01:02:19
Speaker
it's the its It's the same thing. So i just that's that's kind of the thing that I worry about is is it's you know when we come up against an LAFC, a Miami, ah Minnesota again in the playoffs. Are we going to have that guy who can, who can deliver the moment magic?
01:02:37
Speaker
And I, I don't know that we do. um Do you not believe in the Pedro de la Vega agenda?
01:02:47
Speaker
I am, I, I've been so impressed with what he's done in the last few weeks. It's always candy bit, you know,
01:02:59
Speaker
i That's a question, I think. ah But, um you know, i the Thomas thing, I think Schmetzer's just too wedded to his veterans.
01:03:10
Speaker
I didn't think Thomas did anything deserve to be dropped. Fry's 39 years old now. His contract's up at the end of the season. um If Thomas is going to be the guy, he's as possible.
01:03:23
Speaker
ah especially when he was playing pretty well. So I didn't like that. You know, I agree with the double pivot. It's like if we're if we're going to play a very defense first team or rotate, play in there instead of open.
01:03:42
Speaker
ah But give Brunel a shot. it it It ended up, it it wouldn't have mattered. So, um and I was a little disappointed in this.
01:03:53
Speaker
because I thought that l LA, you know, he didn't end up on the score sheet for goals or assists, but i I thought he played well. I really liked his hustle. I think that was a huge improvement.
01:04:04
Speaker
um And then this one, i was kind of looking at this game, like, you know, i think the problem we had with Minnesota in the last game was that Whatever you think about Rusnak, his strength is not breaking down packed defenses. So i was really hoping Ferreira was going to step up, show that was something he could do, ah because this is his preferred position.
01:04:26
Speaker
And that just didn't quite happen either. No questions when we when we end up in games against you know the the the top teams in MLS. um But shit happens. smellsh This is right, James.
01:04:41
Speaker
Yeah. All right, James, I'm going ask you to close out because your Wi-Fi is a little little cooked here, you so you're coming in and out. but final Any final take here, and we will let you go.
01:04:54
Speaker
ah if I disagree with your takes on Craig Weibel. um I understand that he's short on money, but there's a lot of stuff that he's doing wrong.
01:05:06
Speaker
You know, this isn't a bait and switch like it was with Loggerway, where he came in when we had money and went away. Weibel knew what he was getting into. He's not making the most out of what he knew he had.
01:05:17
Speaker
He's signing the guys like the Gustav Svensons. even on those lower budget kind of things. He's chasing the wrong kind of YouTube 22 players. So if he comes out of this one fourth consecutive transfer window, no signings, it's time for him to go. And there's no question about it.
01:05:36
Speaker
Ari? um I mean, I guess I'll just... ah ah repeat my perspective on it, which is that, like, I mean, I see what you're saying, and everyone's entitled to, you know, rate Weibel how they want.
01:05:53
Speaker
I don't think the idea that he's, like, super terrible and, deserves to be fired, matches up with the results that we've seen on the field this season. I think an incompetent GM who's doing a terrible job, you would see that reflected more in the what the team's record is and what their points per game is and how like they're actually performing. And then when I look at how the team's performed,
01:06:17
Speaker
recently like i think it it's demonstrated that it's like a very strong roster like they were able to uh withstand a ton of injuries and still have a stretch of 10 games where they racked uh over like i mean it was 26 and 8 i think probably closer to 30 or over 30 for those uh 10 games so like for me, it's like, if the roster was that bad, if the GM was that bad, the team would not be contending for a top four spot in the West and it wouldn't have, uh, finished first out of 36 in, in leagues cup. So that's what I'm, I'm, I try to judge it based on like what how his individual signings have worked, which I think Ferreira, Moose and De La Vega arrows all up on them right now. And they've been a contributor to this strong run of form.
01:07:07
Speaker
And, uh, i I just don't like... if If the team was bad, then then yeah, i would I would feel like that more, but it's ah it's a good team. I'm just glad we don't have to deal with Will Kuntz because if I had to deal with Will Kuntz, I'd be crashing out, personally.
01:07:25
Speaker
He's my number one op, I think. He ruined a beautiful LA Galaxy team.
01:07:32
Speaker
Well, I mean... And can I'll get what you're saying, but you know to me, that's that's that's a credit Schmetzer. That Schmetzer takes brick parts. ah it Because these are guys who come in.
01:07:45
Speaker
They don't, but in the case of De La Vega, Musavsky, even Ruzak when he first came in, these are guys who don't contribute for... six months or a year or even a year and a half in the case of the three guys I mentioned. That's just how good a manager Schmetzer is. Build on the pieces that he's still got from the previous regime and he can eventually find a role for these people and he can dig out those results.
01:08:10
Speaker
um It's Imagine what he could do if he had a GM who was getting a U-22s international free agents. um We talk about how, um you know, you cor said we need to rotate the double pivot more.
01:08:24
Speaker
We knew that JP was injured. We thought he was going to be injured more. Bring somebody in. Bring in a goose test. A low fee, low salary foreign player to fill that role.
01:08:36
Speaker
Anyway, I'll let you guys go. Thank you very much taking my call. Thanks for calling in, James. We always love taking your calls. So we appreciate you calling in, boss. See you soon. Alrighty.
01:08:49
Speaker
We've got one more in the queue. Should we answer, see if we got any questions in the chat before we take our next collar I don't really see any and I don't see any super chats. Listen, I'm shilling right now. We're goose egging an hour. We're goose egging an hour in bro. It's cause they, it's cause they took an L. It's cause they took an L. I thought that like bad results were supposed to be good for us. Maybe we need to crash out more and do the like, like sack everyone, ah cut everyone.
01:09:19
Speaker
ah maybe that'll get us more super chats. I don't know. I don't know how this game works, but, uh, Green, blue, tribe, GBT, our a resident crash outer in the chat today.
01:09:30
Speaker
How are we doing? um Give us some takes here. I know you're going to be scorching because I saw you. You were all caps in in the chat here. So let her rip. I actually like this. Here we go.
01:09:40
Speaker
oh so i actually like this tank i like here we go
01:09:47
Speaker
Seriously, start him. um um Can't take anyone one-on-one. You see what you include not begging people, stepovers, and putting the best balls you've seen all game in the box. I keep saying this.
01:09:58
Speaker
If this guy starts, we would have won. And what is this with Fry? He looks like fucking starfish. What what is that? Bro, you have to save that. You have to save that.
01:10:11
Speaker
You have to start with a good soul. It's so embarrassing. I don't even know what to do, man. It's so, so embarrassing. i don't know it's the worst game i've ever seen that's all the worst game you've ever seen i i i wouldn't say i wouldn't say it was the worst game i've ever seen i've seen i mean i cover like um all these games every week so i've seen some really bad games uh but i i was always painful before too
01:10:44
Speaker
I got to Portland. it was ah it was It was not great. i do i like I like your Georgie agenda though. i'll I'll co-sign with you. Ari's been on the Georgie agenda. i've been I've been on it, but like tonight- didn't want to plant his flag. He doesn't plant his flag, but he's been on it.
01:10:59
Speaker
Tonight reinforced, I think, that that Georgie should be playing more. I agree with that. Because like he he just brings like a ah kind of different element than any of the other wingers. And he's a handful to to deal with.
01:11:12
Speaker
And he showed flat, like the whole thing is like, oh, he's super, he's super physically talented and raw, but he doesn't have the end product yet. He showed some nice end product in the Santos Laguna game. Let him, let him build on that. Yeah. like And when, when he came on the game tonight, I thought it made a difference. I, there might be some split opinion on on this, but I thought, I thought he, ah he was creating danger that had been sorely lacking throughout the game.
01:11:39
Speaker
I've got a question. but opinions on that yeah Yeah. Do we think we see Georgie then midweek in this Pueblo Yes. Yes. Please. Oh my God. Please.
01:11:50
Speaker
I need that. I need that. Georgie. Georgie on the right. Pedro on the left. ma If you want to rotate the midfielders, have Schneider-Brunel for Vargas. I mean, if you're so worried about rotation, he's proven to be good.
01:12:05
Speaker
Just as good as as as Christian Roldan in the past couple of weeks, even. So if if if you think that the midfielders are being overworked, you could have Schneider-Brunel start. It's just, the I don't disagree with needing rotation, but the rotation he did was so bad, in my opinion.
01:12:23
Speaker
It was the wrong rotation. If you know what I'm saying, you need to give the players that have been actually performing off the bench the start, like Manungu and Schneider Brunel, and you need to give the midfielders a rest because they started practically every single game this season, and and and you'll get results, especially if Georgie starts, man. My God, he needs to start against Puebla, or I'm running my fat ass and popping Brian in the nose. I swear to God.
01:12:52
Speaker
I swear to God. yeah I will. Blooming field security. Blooming field security. We've got, we got a lively one. i don't think he's going to, don't think he's going to start. I don't think he's going to start, but ah he are he's got to play at least 30. That's, that is a, that should be written in stone.
01:13:14
Speaker
Yes, the danger he created. It's like nothing we've seen in that game. And the danger he creates in any match, even even against teams that actually good, it doesn't matter who he plays. You saw against PSG.
01:13:30
Speaker
He was cooking against PSG even. and Like, what are we doing? you know who he's really good against? LAFC2. Wow. And every next pro team because he looked like a god in that league.
01:13:44
Speaker
No, exactly. I will also i will also say I will also say that ah ah i all the media that was at training this week was saying that Georgie was just on one, like scoring bang left and right. It looked like it looked like a leveled up player type stuff. So, you know, take it for what it's worth. ah Training grounds of the training ground.
Player Development and Performance Comparisons
01:14:06
Speaker
De La Vega was a god on there for a while before he got going. But it does. It does kind of tell me that like what the the strides we're seeing on the field from him lately,
01:14:16
Speaker
could actually be it's not just like a flash in the pan kind of thing it's like he's actually improving so yeah and the last thing i want to get out there before i go i'm a little bit worried about brian schmetzer's decisions he seems to favor some players over others like ryan kent for example and and i still have hope for him when he returns i still i still oh god i still have that tiny bit of hope that tiny bit of light that that he'll be one of the best players in mls when returns he needed to get a lot more starts than he did as well.
01:14:50
Speaker
Isn't that the whole reason when when Paul Arreola went out injured, we needed someone and we got Kent for that? Why don't we start him? He was so, so good with the amount of assists and the amount of stepovers, just as good as Manungu, my opinion, almost.
01:15:03
Speaker
But for some reason, Schmetzer seems to favor favorite Paul Rothrock over Manungu when in training, in training, Manungu's doing better.
01:15:16
Speaker
and When he's on the field, he's even more dangerous. I just don't know about these decisions. You know what I'm saying? I mean, statistically speaking, Manungu isn't as dangerous as Paul Rothrock, but... Statistically, he's the dribbler. wouldn't save lives either, but... Yeah, but dribbling, you can i can dribble all the way down the field and walk my ass out the end line and...
01:15:36
Speaker
The ball goes to the goalkeeper. you know i don't i don't think... I mean, for me, and' ah you know you know everyone knows that we're heavily pro ah Paul Rothrock. To me, Paul Rothrock has been one of the wide attackers on the team that's provided the most end product this season. I mean, you did open the you did open the show...
01:15:55
Speaker
Calling him bad. So you do got to own that. You can't call him bad and then not call. Well, I'll let you repent right now. You can give a forgiveness for him and then I'll hop on the Georgie train after you, you, you apologize to our God and our King Paul Rothrock. I will apologize once he can take a defender on one-on-one.
01:16:12
Speaker
He's done that. He, dude, his self-published highlight tape. He has a self-published YouTube highlight tape, bro. Go peep it on the Paul Rothrock YouTube channel and drop a like and drop a sub. Yeah. Sub to Paul Rothrock.
01:16:25
Speaker
Yeah. But every time with Georgie, you know, every single time Georgie does it and it's perfect. You know what saying? remember when he was getting consistent starts and then they figured it out and then they just shut him down after light It was like the second or third game. That was a little bit of a different era though.
01:16:41
Speaker
Yeah. This is... I'm just saying. I've always been a Georgie doubter. So... i but you not Not a doubter, but like a... like ah He needs a little bit more of his game. He needs to develop. Which, to your point, playing minutes, you've got it. That's how you develop players.
01:16:57
Speaker
And that brings me to this super chat that we got from our one-and-own member,
Reliance on Veteran Players
01:17:03
Speaker
BabySeaOrca. BabySeaOrca asks, Do we think Schmetz relies too much on the veterans? Fry, NewHoo, CR7... Are we worried Fry might have ah might be upset um and depart the club in a way similar to Nico, Raul, etc.?
01:17:20
Speaker
i'll ah I'll give my take on this first. I think oftentimes ah Schmetzer does have his favorite players. Every coach does. that's that's like That's just the truth of it. um that's Bosses have their favorite employees. That's how it works.
01:17:35
Speaker
And you give people a lot of chances when you rate them. And that's kind of what a coach does. um I think sometimes there is that trust innately in these players who he's seen play at a consistent level for a long period of time. So the the joke colloquially around the fan base is get this player out of Brian's basement, which I think is fair to some degree.
01:18:01
Speaker
ah But when he does rotate and and you know people don't play well, the fan base also freaks out and has, you know, a crash out because a player who hasn't gotten that many MLS minutes, De Rosario, doesn't convert.
01:18:17
Speaker
Okay, well, you know, they're ready to throw him in the trash. So I think that it's a kind of a catch 22 as a manager where you do have your guys, you you trust your guys. That's just how it works.
01:18:29
Speaker
um And also you, I think, I think Brian does a good job of playing the kids. I do. i think that I think he does a good job of balancing that. I think there have been some times where he's let a few players play a little bit longer than he should have and trusting that a younger player can come in. But that said, I don't know. I don't really know if I buy into that.
01:18:48
Speaker
The second part, do we think Fry... would be upset with not playing and depart the club in an angry way. Nico, Raul, whatever. Brian Schmetzer has a special place and in his heart for Stephen Fry. So maybe, I don't know. But um I think that he also just wanted to get Fry back ah on...
01:19:08
Speaker
and getting yeah on a game and getting, getting a game and getting some play because at the end of the day, he is the goalkeeper number one right now, regardless of what you think about Andrew Thomas. That's just what his role is. And you want to have ah healthy ah number one and a healthy number two, just in case something happens with Andrew Thomas. So that's my take and why I think he played him. um I don't know what you guys think.
01:19:32
Speaker
Tribe, take it away. I was ah i was doing something else, so it wasn't paying attention. yeah i think I think it's it's it's true. he he does rely pretty heavily on his veterans. we We have seen that with, well, Rui Diaz in his later days when he was starting to fall off a bit.
01:19:48
Speaker
He used him quite bit instead of some younger strikers that we had. um But overall, our veterans always come through. again... again when You're right, though. when When you do have a favorite player, you always want to start them. i think I think Fry came in at the wrong time, but um about him leaving an angry way, I really don't
Young Players' Development
01:20:11
Speaker
see that happening. Fry is such a humble guy.
01:20:13
Speaker
He's such a nice guy. i really i really think he would understand if he doesn't get starts and if he leaves because he he he's aware of his age as well, and he's aware that Andrew Thomas is is very good, and Brian Schmetzer said it's very hard for him to choose either Fry or or Thomas now because Thomas is coming up really, really well. So I don't think that's going to be really an issue at all.
01:20:34
Speaker
Yeah, no, I agree. I think, yeah, I, I, I like, I think on this show, our take and and the thing that we like to impart on as many people as possible is that young players are going to make mistakes.
01:20:48
Speaker
And so when they do play, You got to be a little bit kind. You've got to be a little bit understanding, especially if they play in a different position. Like, I guess this this brings me to my next question.
01:21:00
Speaker
um i don't think Reid had the best game in the world tonight, but I thought it was interesting that he got to play out as a winger. Like, that's that's something that I swear I've seen in this chat like 7 billion times.
01:21:11
Speaker
And then today I see a bunch of people in the chat like, oh what the what the hell are they doing but so pick your poison my friends but um was he really was he really a winger or was it more of like a back five with like i think it was like probably a back five but he got he got into the attack a lot more i thought he played great balls he was he was definitely playing higher than like a traditional yeah yeah you know what i'm saying um I don't know. i I enjoyed some of the the way that he played in attack and brought kind of ah an interesting dynamic thing on that side. and Very versatile player.
01:21:47
Speaker
He had a couple of balls in the box that were like pretty pretty good. I don't know. That's my take. but people um i definitely I definitely think RBW's last couple games, ah there's been like a...
01:22:01
Speaker
improvement in I think the thing whole thing with him this year has been like you know you see the attacking gifts you see the fun runs that he can make forward he's got pretty good wide service like he can send a cross in there there have just been like instances where the like defensive positioning you like maybe gets pulled out or makes the like wrong decision like on tracking or you know stuff like that so like what I wanted to see from him is like the defensive side take a step and i thought in the what was the game before this one where he was uh whatever uh the the uh no i'm gonna forget it i literally had it on the tip of my tongue anyway it doesn't matter
01:22:39
Speaker
the Was it the Cholos game? you won a ma sholo Yeah, he was. he was i thought in that game he ah looked a lot more sound defensively. So still got to build on it. But it's at least nice to see like an area of of improvement that you see and then see strides. And it was a different it was a different position. He was playing a different position in this match.
01:23:01
Speaker
and And I guess that brings us to, I guess, GBT. You can chat GBT. You can give us your take on that too. But I also want to know from you what you thought about the change in formation a little bit.
Tactical Formations and Strategies
01:23:15
Speaker
I don't like a back three. I really, really don't like a back three. um But I do like it a bit better if the two midfielders sort of play as a wingback and then come to support the the three in the back.
01:23:31
Speaker
especially against a very counterattacking side bla like Minnesota United. And this season, Minnesota is just – it's not fun to watch, man. It's it's it's terrible. It's i on trigger a bit.
01:23:44
Speaker
It's a bit. It's a bit. They're doing a bit. I'll tell you, i i very nearly broke a table watching that game. It was. We need to watch along with green blue. There were there were just, we need to watch along. There were just these like sequences of the game where like Seattle would just have the ball in there.
01:24:02
Speaker
And, and like you, like Seattle's like a pressing team. That team is not a pressing team. They just, they just sit there. So like Jackson Reagan or whoever would just be sitting on the ball. Like, is anyone going to, do anything about this.
01:24:14
Speaker
And then it's like, no, we literally are so committed to this that we're just going to stand here. We're going to stand here and not do anything. And you're not going to be able to score on it. And they did it.
01:24:27
Speaker
It's wild. It took one free kick and that and that's what that's what they've been doing all season. Like you guys say, it works. Third place. and I mean, they've just opened up a bigger gap from third to fourth. They're in second now.
01:24:41
Speaker
They're in second now? Well, we ah i kind of I kind of have investment in this not winning them a trophy. think it's dishonorable footy. And it's like what I'm going to cling to is that they can they can do this in the regular season.
01:24:58
Speaker
They can bit their way to a top two seed. They're not going to win MLS Cup like that. um There's no way. No. no If they do, i think I think you'll see all fans in MLS...
01:25:13
Speaker
rating okay but how awesome would it be if this shit house club beat messy in the final and just trolled messy in the barca boys to like the most frustrating one nil uh loons like victory off of a mess an own goal it's an own goal set piece come on How funny would that be? And it's just Ustari making the dumbest jump save ever, like missing the missing the ball. That would literally feed generations.
01:25:41
Speaker
That would feed my own self for like years. That would be incredible. ESPN FC would go crazy on that one. I'll tell you that right now. I would go crazy on that one.
01:25:52
Speaker
It'd be incredible. That would be the greatest game, honestly. it's It's hilarious when it happens to other teams, but was so... painful tonight, man. That was so preventable, in my opinion. That was the most preventable loss we've we've really, really had this season. So,
01:26:10
Speaker
I don't know what you guys think about that, but I think it was very, very preventive. No, I mean, it was it was definitely a game where they should have been able to take at least a point. that's That's where my frustration comes in. Because it's like that, I mean, you got trolled.
01:26:25
Speaker
They got their set-piece goal. Like, if you just get one goal, you can get get out of there with a point, and it's fine. But we're not able Five headers, though. Five headers.
01:26:36
Speaker
I'm not saying score every single one. At least get two or three of them on target.
Impact of Missing Key Players
01:26:41
Speaker
like Like, one was a long ball that came down. He just got underneath. and And I don't know what time in the game it was, but I do remember a ball that came through. It was just unchallenged. He was making a run. He just hit it right over. It feels like that should have been a goal.
01:26:56
Speaker
um theres There's just – you have to do better with chances like that. And I think – I just – I miss players like like Morris and Rui Diaz. when when we're in these sort of situations. If we had more sorority, man, we would be cooking right now.
01:27:12
Speaker
I'm not saying we aren't cooking, but... Someone in chat earlier brought up that this would have been a this was a game where Jordan, like where you felt the Jordan Morris absence. And i yeah, like with his ability to make those like vertical runs in behind and stretch the field and stuff against a team. Like, I mean, we've seen him ah how effective he can be against teams who at least play like in a low block at Lumen.
01:27:36
Speaker
ah So to not have that tonight against a team that was playing in a low block at home, because that's what they do. It would have been nice to have them. Have you ever seen anything like that in MLS? Like a team getting the spot up?
01:27:50
Speaker
Not taking it that far to where they do it. Not to this extent. At home. The way I describe it is they play every game like they're the road team. Do you know who tried to do that but totally like is terrible?
01:28:02
Speaker
is ah and Not in the same exact way, but St. Louis did that with their last coach. yeah yeah they like They really tried and they looked like dog shit. so It is kind of impressive.
01:28:16
Speaker
It is kind of impressive that they've been able to take it off, like take it this far. Yeah. No, guys, I actually have to head out. I need to get some dinner. Dude, thank you for calling in as always. We appreciate you.
01:28:28
Speaker
love you guys. Our favorite crash out. yeah Let's go. see you soon, tribe. I'll see you, boys. Cheers. ah Well, we have no one in the call list, and it's 930, and it's it's early, Ari.
01:28:42
Speaker
we could We could start wrapping this up and and get on with our lives. And just like Brian Schmetzer said, put this one in the back. we'll We'll hang out for like five more minutes here. If any last callers want to tap in take one to two more, then then call it. I said one to two more.
01:29:01
Speaker
All right. You're a content goblin. You did four hours the other night on Under the Lights, and you're like, dude, I could stream for years. i Yeah, I mean, I think I did ah i didn three hours on Under the Lights doing LA Galaxy Watchalong, so I'm a fiend.
01:29:19
Speaker
yeah But I mean, i don't I don't mind. This was one of the lamest games of the season, so I wouldn't mind like a short show. But you know if anyone else wants to hop on and cope, feel free. I texted ah Jeremiah, but I think he's too big time for us right now. think he's probably doesn't want to talk talk about that game. No, I wouldn't.
01:29:39
Speaker
I wouldn't want to either. I mean, okay, do we ah do you agree with my take that ah like if they go whoop-ass in this League's Cup game, this is forgiven? That's how that's what I'm going with. Yeah, why not?
01:29:51
Speaker
Like, why not? Like, that's that's kind of I don't know. It's just like, who cares? This is this is one game. This is one game. They just won 10. Like, I don't know. I can't be that aggrieved. Like, I know that we've been become famously the ah the guys who were like never really that aggrieved by a loss.
01:30:11
Speaker
Which is not true because there have been losses where we've been very agreeable. crashed out. We've crashed out. But it's just like, man, a 1-0 on the road to Minnesota and like they just played they were just able to play their game.
01:30:24
Speaker
They've been playing like gods lately. like that Yeah. like that i would i would feel I would feel differently about this if it was in the middle of poor four. Let's go beat the shit out of Pueblo, man.
01:30:35
Speaker
let's go yeah Let's go bully this team who just had their their their they they' coach fired. Let's go win some hardware, man. Fuck this. That team is not good that like ah as far as the Liga and Mechies table goes.
01:30:48
Speaker
So that doesn't mean guaranteed to to win. But it's like a game they theoretically should be favored in. All right, we got Hunch to bring us home. Last call of
Prioritizing Competitions
01:30:58
Speaker
the night. So let's... ah Let's bring them on, have them rip some takes.
01:31:03
Speaker
And then, uh, that's going to be it for this post game live. Uh, are we on? I see three.
01:31:14
Speaker
Oh, Oh, removed. I'm kicking you. You'll have to, you'll ah it just, it's just gray. Let's try it again.
01:31:23
Speaker
I fear. I fear chat hunch hunch is broken. Is that a sign? I keep trying to add him back. He usually has a picture, so I think it's not just... Oh, yeah, gone. We'll let you tap in again and see if that works.
01:31:43
Speaker
And if not, it might just be a sign. ah sign from the gods above. That they want us to ah wrap the postgame live at an hour and a half. That would be a record short one. you You're a marathoner, bro. I can't.
01:31:56
Speaker
I can't. i can't do Here we go. Okay, there he is. There he is. All right. welcome to the show hunch no punch this time just hunch how are we doing
01:32:09
Speaker
can't hear him hell yeah all right hunch we got the picture we got the picture but no audio uh you're still on the stage we'll let you try and fix your mic setup but uh we're just you know the the lighthouse is cool though like i like the lighthouse i well I enjoy the the lighthouse picture. How's that?
01:32:30
Speaker
ah There we go. Yesterday, like on the fly, and I have a second one plugged in. yeah It's been a mess. It's been a mess. um but I'm glad we got it, though.
01:32:42
Speaker
ah hunch how are how are you ah How are you coping with the L? What did you think of the game? I mean, not great. Not great. um you know yeah yeah i don't get on down on the team on wins when and and there you know fair criticisms there. and you know i We dictated this game.
01:33:04
Speaker
We really did. at least for the first half. yeah well so this has been okay There are two things that have plagued Seattle perpetually. One, we played to the level our opponent.
01:33:17
Speaker
Two, we let teams hang around that shouldn't. and If we did things say in the first half and you you hit leagues cup didn't score a single goal, in any of the three first halves.
01:33:29
Speaker
You put Minnesota down one or two, they probably don't come back. i can i Can I ask a question about the putting... Because I hear this a lot, and maybe it's because I'm ah a dumb guy, because that is me.
01:33:42
Speaker
But like the the the playing down to teams, or playing... playing i hear this a lot their level yeah like what what is this bit about because like i don't know i i guess i just don't understand it because like in this game if the sounders were playing to the level of minnesota it would be trolling a draw and they most certainly weren't trying to do that and i don't know they weren't looked like that so like i mean maybe it's not every game absolutely is this this take but i kind of don't know for the for me the dumb can i get a little bit of an explanation of your vibe on that sure
01:34:16
Speaker
Galaxy game should have had two, three goals in the first half. Did not play above that. um Play in the Club World Cup.
01:34:27
Speaker
Held our own against PSG, a lucky deflection goal in the first half and potentially could have scored. Didn't go above that level, didn't go below that level. We held our own.
01:34:38
Speaker
So teams that are above us, we hold our own. Teams that are below us, we don't seem to put you know the boot on the throat. In other words, we play as much as we have to.
01:34:49
Speaker
And if they're above us, we play up to that. And if they're below this, we we say, okay, we're going to figure this out. We're going to play to that level. And unfortunately for for poor teams, that allows them to hang around as opposed to to putting them away. We don't put teams away that we should.
01:35:04
Speaker
And there's there's a quote out there from whomever, I don't know. And I think it's apt. Bad teams lose games that they should win.
01:35:15
Speaker
And good teams win games that they should lose. I would say Seattle's a good team. um But when you lose games that you should have won, and not saying Minnesota is one of those, because they're above us on the table, and they're a pretty good team this year.
01:35:33
Speaker
um yeah i wouldn't I wouldn't say that's true. But we had all the chances we needed in order to force this Minnesota into the decisions based on being able to put them under pressure, based on being able to put them you behind in the first half and we didn't take that.
01:35:51
Speaker
And if you want to argue that that has to do with the roster lineup and how that was chosen after a week's rest. And if you want to call it a rest, that's up to you. They could have given them more or less of a rest. I don't know.
01:36:05
Speaker
But if you're talking playoffs, if you're talking to him above you, if you're talking six points, I would say this is probably one of the more meaningful games of the season. And if you really think you're prepping for Pueblo, okay.
01:36:17
Speaker
then what matters more? The Leagues Cup or home playoffs? I don't know. I know what I think. What do you think? Home playoff.
01:36:30
Speaker
See, I think, I don't know, I'm in Leagues Cup mode right now. Yeah, who gives a shit? What if they lose against Pueblo? Then what how bad does this look? This bad look? Well, yeah, but you can't you can't like base your plans on that. No, you can't. but like Everyone would crash out if they didn't take this this game against Pueblo seriously. It's the same catch-22 that everyone does with...
01:36:50
Speaker
It's a home game. Yeah, but I'm saying it's the same catch-22 that everyone does with like ah Open Cup when they play the kids. They're like, I can't believe you you wouldn't take Open Cup seriously. This is a disgrace to the argument nature.
01:37:04
Speaker
I'm on that, but why why don't you put out your your top lineup in the first half of an Open Cup, put four goals on the first half, and say, okay, this team has nothing to play for in the second half. if you And I say that if your if your factor is, I want a piece of silverware, and I want to get to Champions League or, you know, CONCACAF whatever, which they can actually do if they have this path, which is statistically speaking, more likely for them to win this tournament where they only have this game one more. And then the championship, I believe it's only like three, three games, right? Like their ability to potentially win that win a, ah a good chunk of change and get into Champions League.
01:37:47
Speaker
I'm not saying that they can't win MLS cup, but what I'm saying is you still have multiple games that you're going to play. You're already in playoff position. You are at a, you, you are technically already still in home field advantage area.
01:38:01
Speaker
You get to play at least one, one match at home. That's like, you know, that feels like, I feel like if I was in that mindset, I would kind of look towards leagues cup and and prioritize that. But that's me. I mean, I would love to hear your, your reasoning for sure.
01:38:17
Speaker
And that's that this first the perspective you can have today with where we are today. That can't be the perspective you have at the beginning season. And I would ask you two things.
01:38:28
Speaker
One, do you think the Sounders would have been in the MLS Cup yeah if they had a home field against the Galaxy last year? And you can answer that later. And two, what is the easier path to Honka Gaf Champions, the U.S. Open Cup or the Leeds Cup?
01:38:46
Speaker
Well, I think that's pretty straightforward, but again, you know however you want to answer, feel free. I mean, they played tough opponents in the open cup. They didn't play in the open cup this year. They weren't allowed to, they had, uh, they had the Tacoma defiance in there. So the Tacoma defiance were all and they did almost beat the Timbers. But if you look back the year before that, they did have a hard, uh, competition, LAFC.
01:39:12
Speaker
I understand they didn't start all of their starters, but Denny Buonga literally pissed on star fire. Um, and there was some terrible officiating and that game could have gone either way. I get that. I get that. I respect that. At the beginning of the season,
01:39:24
Speaker
i i i don't know. I didn't have a perspective. I would have hoped that they would have won everything, I guess. yeah I don't know. maybe that is that Is that right? I don't i don't know if I answered your question there.
01:39:35
Speaker
I'm not asking necessarily. you know I'm saying if you're the coach sitting down, if you're if you're strategizing at the beginning of the year and saying, listen, we've been charged with getting to the CONCACAF Champions League.
01:39:47
Speaker
What is our clear path? And I'll go further and say not that it's their choice, maybe you don't play a starfire if you really want to motivate the team and the fans ah from a U S open cup, but I get why they don't because business thing too. Yeah. A hundred percent. I get it.
01:40:03
Speaker
That's not, doesn't make it right, but I get it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what you did. You know, they're playing and I think when they start the season, they're playing in CONCACAF Champions Cup. So their goal is to win that. What happens is they get absolutely boat raced by Cruz Azul, which they regardless of whatever any other caller wants to say, that is an incredibly good team.
01:40:24
Speaker
And they won. They won the whole thing. You lost to the champions. yeah um And then, you know, you you pick your head up and you go, okay, it's time to focus on the league season. And you focus on the league season.
01:40:36
Speaker
And then you're like, okay, we have Club World Cup. So you focus on Club World Cup. well my My point ought to say, like, I don't think that it makes any sense to strategically pick one trophy and then ignore the others or look and be like, okay, this is the easiest path.
01:40:51
Speaker
I think that they're just taking what comes to them and taking what's in front of them. ah Day by day, which I think is the way that that in my opinion, if I was running a team, which I'm not, nor am I qualified to do, nor do I want to.
01:41:03
Speaker
ah That's what I would do. So you would sacrifice you would sacrifice club. You would sacrifice a chance at the least cup final for home field advantage in the MLS Cup.
01:41:14
Speaker
No, no, I would. I would go for what's in front of you right now, which is Leagues Cup. Which I think you can do both at the same time because I don't think that you have to pick one or the other is my point. There's three teams in front of you. This is a six-point difference and you would pass and be in third place.
01:41:29
Speaker
that's That's effectively what I'm asking you and that's effectively what was decided. So yes.
01:41:36
Speaker
Because they rotated? No, because this is the second time they faced Minnesota. Because this match could have made six points difference because they would have gone into third place and potentially been in position to move up to a home field versus rotating. Well, they're already in a home field, right? With third and fourth.
01:41:56
Speaker
that I could. yeah I thought it was the first two. I thought I was one and two. No, it's it's top four four. It's top four. There's like 18 teams in the playoffs. So I don't know what you're talking about. It's a slot machine with how they change the playoffs year over year.
01:42:08
Speaker
You'll to forgive me for not exactly keeping with all that. We were talking past each other. It's okay. thought it was one, two. it was one, two. I thought it one, two. That's my fault. So with that framing, does it feel a little bit less bad?
Value of Winning the Leagues Cup
01:42:21
Speaker
ah So if you're aiming for two, three, I'm fine with that. Sick. Sick. I'm about somewhere. I'm about going for trophies. You want Leagues Cup too. You're on board. A week's off.
01:42:36
Speaker
ah Now I am. It's a clown show of a tournament, but I'm about getting that trophy. Let me honest. It's a cool trophy, bro. It's so poorly organized. It looks cool. Whoever gets home field advantage, it's like you know whatever flavor popcorn is your favorite Minus you know what movies you saw last, plus like whoever won whatever tournament five years ago. I think it's the greatest tournament in the world. i think it's organized incredibly well. I will defend League's Cup till the day I die, i think. Unless they unless they lose to Pueblos, in which case it's a cynical money grab. bra I never cared about I don't want the trophy anyway. Never liked it. um
01:43:15
Speaker
But back to this game, ah we had we had the game on a scruff of the neck in the first half. We really
Challenges of Rotation and Team Chemistry
01:43:20
Speaker
did. And Vargas had a bad game. I don't think he was tired. It's a week off. Dude have been ready. He's young.
01:43:27
Speaker
it But at half, it was like he was not having it. like We needed to think about how do we slot in something? How do we rotate? How do we augment for the fact that so many passes?
01:43:37
Speaker
Snyder B, bro. I'm not saying no at all. i'm not the city no at all Like, ah we we always campaign for rotation, and Schmetz always does it less than we would do.
01:43:51
Speaker
And I think, I don't know, when you're a coach, it must just be ah a tough psychological hurdle to get over to take risks like that and put guys that you don't have as much, like, trust in and don't have as much experience.
01:44:04
Speaker
But, like, for me, I'm like, man... just you know like yeah take obet off at 60 and then just let snyder be out there if he makes a mistake and and you drop points like that's probably that that is equally likely as if you're running like the same double pivot for the 47th game in 47th 90 minute game in a row you know i wouldve brought georgie on a bit earlier and hindsight hindsight i think masofsky up top might have been the smarter choice and bring on um ah so i say later.
01:44:33
Speaker
big fat man I wish he would have finished one of those headers though. He had the opportunities. He was right there. He was in the right positions and I do like what he gives you there.
01:44:44
Speaker
i can I can understand what Schmitz was saying at least about the game plan of why he started Osase because it it did it got close to working. ah quote Yeah. yeah and we mean We were right there. i mean We had their center backs under yellows and they subbed him out.
01:44:59
Speaker
We were exuding the right pressure um i I don't know if RBW starting on wing was the smartest choice. um But I get the idea of bringing Pater on from pressure, but it looks like if they brought him on the right for the first five, 10 minutes and put Rothrock over the left, I was like, why would you do that? And then they corrected that. And that's when the goal was scored, but not that has anything to do with that, but it was just, I don't know.
01:45:28
Speaker
It felt weird. um I'm not saying the goal was on Frye, but that is a little good coming back. I would say it's probably 60-30, 60-40, I guess.
01:45:39
Speaker
60% on Frye. He should have had it. He saw it or should have seen it. 40% on the defense for not, shouldn't have allowed the shot to begin with, like under that um that position. But you got you gotta to be better than giving up an unlucky goal to get a result.
01:45:54
Speaker
You have to be a better team to at least... If you could score one, then the unlucky goal doesn't mean you get zero points. Exactly. I'm right there with you. like I think i think the the goal is forgivable if you're able to score one.
01:46:09
Speaker
You're not talking really about that goal at all. You're like, oh yeah, that was a little bit of a blunder, but you expected it. Yeah, you expected it. yeah And so I think, yeah, and in in to that point, I think...
01:46:21
Speaker
What I'm most disappointed about in this outing is the attacking, uh, finishing the finishing. Correct. yeah Like, yeah especially considering what you've been able to do in the past. We were there. We were there. we were there We had, we had it.
01:46:34
Speaker
i I don't know. I've been sitting here defending Reed. I think that, i think that there were I don't think he played as poorly. He was okay. He was better than Vargas if Vargas was bad. Yeah, like i think he put i well yeah i mean I think he put in some good service. Yes, yes I know what you're saying.
01:46:50
Speaker
I agree with you. um i just I don't know. I like him on that side. I thought him and Nuhu played well together. It's a great off-and-half when you can have him at left-back and then say you sub off Rothrock, who's on the left, or Pedro.
01:47:06
Speaker
you bump him up and bring Nuhu in behind him. It's great to be able to have those chops to have him ready to go where he can turn off, you know, 60% defense, 30% offense go 60% offense, 30% defense. sixty percent off but thirty percent defense And it was a look that people have been asking to see. And I think that that's what you do. you you trust You trust a young guy in a moment like that and and see what he has to offer.
01:47:29
Speaker
I don't think it was a flawless performance, but I don't think anyone had a flawless performance in this match. So it was kind of just the way that the way that the dice rolled there. um I don't think anything was bad about the game in particular.
01:47:41
Speaker
i see yeah I think Vargas had a bad day. Everybody has a bad day. Everybody does. You're allowed to have a bad day. yeah And Fry got caught, but that wasn't 100% or even at most 50% on him.
01:47:55
Speaker
And it's just a matter of, I mean, he's been gone. for balloon balloons also ah The loons also cooked. All right, let's give credit to the opponent a little bit. They did their set piece bit, but they also played a clear good game as well. Dane St. Clair made two really good saves at the end. Carlos Harvey cleared.
01:48:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pedro had a good shot that Dane St. Clair said. Yeah. Yeah. Two, two. And then Yimar had one cleared off the line by Carlos Harvey off the chance that Georgie generated.
01:48:25
Speaker
So like ah those, those are like the types of chances I look at. And I'm like, you know, if like sometimes those aren't going to go in, but like, you just want to generate as many of those as possible. They didn't generate enough tonight, but they did have a couple in there that could have at least got them the point.
01:48:42
Speaker
Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't a bad game, but this is a playoff defining game, meaning this is the kind of, and if not, maybe a little bit more what you could face at some rung yeah in the playoff picture and you have got to get me on this.
01:48:55
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I hope they wouldn't roll this lineup out for playoffs. No, you know, that's that you hope we're snacks back. You hope that in, in, I guess, I guess to that point, I did want to ask, I thought Ferreira played great tonight.
01:49:09
Speaker
I thought Ferreira big, like big, big on De La Vega. yeah big on christian rolled on had a monster game yeah passing he had the most passes in the match of anyone and he went 90 for 97 so he and 93 completed passing i'm uh i'm glad you said it about uh ferrera because i i thought he was pretty good too but yeah we'll take that seriously coming from me at this point It's of course. I well you like i think about that i think about the, yeah i like i love I love the way he runs he runs counters.
01:49:41
Speaker
I thought like he may like the way he sprays the ball out wide like and found Reed on a couple of those, ah like he's he's pretty good at hitting those, which helps facilitate counterattacks. He had a couple of good long balls. So I actually, in spite of the team getting shut out, I thought ah I still liked a lot of what I saw from him at that 10 spot.
01:50:04
Speaker
Yeah, and people will judge him already that they do when he's on the wing and not scoring or when he has shots that don't convert. They're going to judge him and go in games where, depending the number goals, that if he's the distributor, somehow Resnac doesn't, you know, it gain that that that criticism, although he does in some cases, when we don't score as much as far as like, oh, he's not distributing.
01:50:28
Speaker
But here, Jesus being in that role, it's like, oh, he's at a back. No, I mean, that's what happens. The the goal scorers need to finish. And Asazi and Jesus have had, what, two and a half games in the in these positions, especially starting, where it's like,
01:50:43
Speaker
I need to figure out where you want to be. I need to figure out if you want me to dink it out to the wing and have it come back for a header. I don't need to know if you want a three ball or a feeder or a bleeder or a one-two. Like all that's got to develop. Like the chemistry there, and that's that's what the team has lacked up till this point in the season, in my opinion, is building that chemistry. And part of that has to do with the moving parts, but it's also come for comfortability, but also new players coming into the squad.
01:51:07
Speaker
We're at that point where that should start to gel. And we're seeing some of it. but we've had rotation again. ha i thought Yeah. I thought that I thought his house looked good. I thought he was playing really well with everyone. I thought it was literally just the finishing lacked. I mean, if Osase gets one of those on frame and it bounces the right way and St. Clair has a little bit of a worse night, the the result is different.
01:51:29
Speaker
And, you know, you take your opportunities when you can and you have to give, you have to give credit to Minnesota because they, they literally They're not third for no reason. No, and they put they put a they poisoned the Sounders' attack enough to make it not work.
01:51:47
Speaker
mean that They're such a weird team. They're they're so weird, but like coming off of, what was it, 38 goals in seven games or whatever crazy number? like You have to give credit to Minnesota. They played a good game. yeahtle They're no different in Seattle over the last 10 years.
01:52:04
Speaker
They figured out a way to make it win. Yeah, or to make it like whether it be through scoring goals like we are in the last 10 games or to somehow figure out that you suddenly have a defense and shutting people down and just getting the one goal squeaker back to what I said.
01:52:18
Speaker
Good teams find game, find ways to win games they should have lost and bad teams find ways to lose games they should have won. Minnesota found a way to win game that potentially they should have had a tie or even potentially a loss and they won.
01:52:32
Speaker
They're legitimately good. but They are. No, they are. I want to be able to undermine it and hate on it. But it with every passing week that they do it again, I have to be like, okay, I mean, you have solved this style that you have created.
Praising Minnesota's Goalkeeper
01:52:49
Speaker
And more power to you, I guess. If you if it gets you wins, it gets you wins. And their keeper is probably top 10, if not top 5. Oh, yeah, he's top 5. Definitely top 5, yeah. dan yeahla He's a little smarmy for my taking.
01:53:01
Speaker
And maybe that's part of the, like, how you beat, you know, perform in that way and and be in that role. But... Hey, watch it. That's my national team goalkeeper you're talking about. Oh, Canada.
01:53:15
Speaker
Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why. Because he he kind of has a chip on his shoulder in his national games. but It's true. Yeah, I mean... ah i i'll I'll just go back to this as we were on it before we moved off it.
01:53:27
Speaker
If you go back to any of these podcasts that we've had or that you've put up or whatever, YouTube videos, I've been on Jesus, big fan, not fan, support, like stock you invest, Pedro de la Vega, been saying it.
01:53:41
Speaker
Last year it was a wash, this year is the development and it's it's proving. And Osazi has only been on a little bit, but I'm big on him in terms of like, you want to stock, you invest, that's him.
01:53:52
Speaker
And it's not necessarily this year, it's this year with what he will gain from experience and then the off season, the fitness, the weight training, the perspective, and then also the cultural fit. like How do I fit into this lineup?
01:54:10
Speaker
Dude's going to beast next year. I feel like he did a lot right tonight. He did ah he did a lot right. He did a lot right last month. He had the right idea within the within the game plan that they clearly yeah had. ah He didn't break the game, though.
01:54:24
Speaker
It was really just the... ah that There was that one clean header, that one clean header where really it's like, that was that was it. There was a couple moments where they could have flipped this, and that was one of them.
01:54:36
Speaker
And let me say, we always talk, or it comes up, officiating what's above average on the verge of good. i yeah That's the first time I have even thought about it.
01:54:46
Speaker
Yeah, exactly right. know it's good. That's how you know it's good. You didn't think about it. I think it must be the best officiated game of the season. There was no discourse over that at all. Chris Price- than that that bang bang play in the first half of the corner kick where they stopped it where like they just defensively headed it out and somehow we didn't get to you for like 20 more seconds that's the only qualm I have, I would say, overall above average love average. Chris Price- agreed. Chris Price- Okay, last question. Chris Price- yeah.
01:55:16
Speaker
Chris Price- What are you thinking. um I think, and like, based on what I've ah researched about them, which is very cursory, but, like, they're just, they're having a really bad year in the league.
01:55:31
Speaker
How confident? Like, how confident? We are confident going into Wednesday is what it sounds
Looking Ahead to the Next Match
01:55:37
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like. It's a game they're favored in as the home team against a struggling opponent.
01:55:42
Speaker
And any game that they're favored at home They should win, especially against a team that's... like This team, is they've been been good in the Cup, but they're not good.
01:55:53
Speaker
they're not It's not a good team. This is... like not I don't know if they're worse than Cholos or Santos. They're probably around the quality of Santos. I doubt there's that much of a difference there.
01:56:04
Speaker
like Maybe they're a little better, but it's that I would say that's roughly the type of club we're talking about. And J.O. said that ah only Galaxy had preference to host over us at this point.
01:56:15
Speaker
Yeah. And famously, the Galaxy are bad at soccer, so. Yeah, exactly. I mean. We may have the whole tournament to ourselves. Unless you listen to the commentators during the Los Angeles match that we had, where apparently they have all the momentum. and they you Did you know they beat Tijuana and Santos? Did you know that? No way. I heard that several times during the last match.
01:56:38
Speaker
Joey Paints? I haven't heard that name in ages. Yeah. Ah, well, so I'm hopeful. And man, if we could host, I'll be a bigger fan of this tournament. I'll tell you that. Knockout round games, it's just you never you never
Emotional Balance in Sports Fandom
01:56:52
Speaker
know. Like, you can play well, and then if you concede a soft goal or two and you let it draw, you can lose in pens. Like, it's just anything can happen.
01:57:01
Speaker
Anything can happen. Well, thanks for having on, guys. I appreciate it. I mean... A loss is never a great thing I think we deserve to tie it Not every show is going to be a dub show Like sometimes Ari, you're wrong, every show could be a dub show We've got to take positives from the losses And you need to be critical sometimes Of the wins, it's fair And you have to put in your time on the L shows Sometimes to make the dub shows Feel as good as they do You know Winning wouldn't even be fun If you never lost That's true
01:57:35
Speaker
That's how you appreciate the wins. Right. That's what I'm getting at. That's exactly right. yeah All right. I think that's a good place to call her a wrap for the night as we come up on ah two hours. We had Parker in there, but he... Thank you, Hunch. I'm going to rip you off now.
01:57:52
Speaker
Appreciate you, boss. Pleasure as always, Hunch. Thanks for calling in. Rip you off. that was That was not what I meant to say. Take you off. I'm going rip you off. Yeah. ah All right, no crazy let's ah what let's call it a night right there.
01:58:09
Speaker
Good stuff. You know, after 10 straight shows of no L's, it's kind of, you know, I forgot what it was like to do it it to do an L show.
01:58:20
Speaker
But we don't shy away from results here at Lobbing Scorchers. We're on here no matter what happens in the game. so and sometimes i'm not yeah sometimes noah's not but i am but uh thank you thanks to everyone for tuning in to the uh to the l show hopefully we provide a platform for uh coping and venting that's like what we aspire to do it's our mo that's our mo Do we got to plug anything or what? LobbingScorchers.com slash sauce. Buy the sauce. We've been getting a lot of orders for the sauce.
01:58:54
Speaker
A lot of sauce. It'll make your day better when you can wake up Sunday morning after an l make yourself a breakfast burrito and put some Lobbing Scorchers hot sauce on there. That's the take.
01:59:05
Speaker
That's yeah. That's as good a plug as I, uh, as I could think of, uh, Monday morning kickoff with Nico. We'll have a new episode Wednesday, uh, under the lights, sub like rate five, gay the game, uh, game on Wednesday, game on Wednesday, game on Wednesday, post-match live on Wednesday from the stadium.
01:59:28
Speaker
Yeah, that's going to be fun. We'll be there. All right. Thanks, everybody. We'll catch you on the next one. Peace. Bye, Chad.