Tom Opre meets with noted author and scientist Dr. Stuart Marks. Dr. Marks is a biologist, ecologist, economist, and philosopher. A Fulbright Scholar and son of a missionary dentist, Dr. Marks spent much of his early childhood living in the Congo, Africa. He has spent over 60 years studying the Bisa people of eastern Zambia and their relationship with wildlife. They also discuss Tom’s new film Killing the Shepherd; modern society’s disconnect with nature; China; Covid 19’s impact on Africa; ecosystem management; and our human future with an emphasis on exploitation of our natural resources.