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Holly Norton - Episode 63

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Profiles in CRM features short interviews with CRM professionals from all experience levels and educational levels. I ask a standard list of questions and see how each person answers them based on their experience.

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Introduction to 'Profiles in CRM' Podcast

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you are listening to the archaeology podcast network the archaeology podcast network is sponsored by codify a california benefit corporation visit codify at www.codifi.com this is holly norton and you're listening to profiles in crm
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Welcome to Profiles in CRM, Episode 63.

Interview Format and CRM's Unique Nature

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I'm your host, Chris Webster. Profiles in CRM asks CRM professionals nine simple questions. The answer is very wildly depending on their experience and education. Because of the nature of contract archaeology and how small this field really is, some people choose not to reveal their name or the company they work for. Stay to the end of the show to hear how you can have a chance to answer these same questions. Okay, we're here on Profiles and here's the first question.

Meet Holly Norton from History Colorado

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What is your name and who do you work for? My name is Holly Norton and I work for History Colorado.
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Okay, and what's the highest degree you've earned? I have a PhD from Syracuse University. How long have you been working in CRM? I've been working in CRM about 12 ish years. I say 12 ish because there's grad school interest first in there and, you know, things get a little bit gray, but about 12 ish years. I know it's never a solid number for us archaeologists, is it? It's not we're, we're,
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transient, weird people. Indeed. All right. And where have you worked? Like, what states have you worked in?

Holly's Career Journey and Experiences

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I've worked in the USBI, the United States Virgin Islands, New York, South Carolina, a little bit in Arizona, but hardly enough that I should be claiming it, Colorado, Wyoming. And I've written a lot of reports for a lot of other states without ever having sex with it.
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Okay. Sounds good. All right. So what is the position? Well, I think you've already answered this, but what is the position you usually have in CRM? What is the highest position you've attained? And we usually mean, uh, we usually mean field tech up through like principal investigator type positions. So whatever is most appropriate for your job. Right. Um, so I'm the Colorado state archeologist. So I guess that would be more like a PI level of, of person. Um, but most of my work has really been like,
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field tech crew chief ish level. Okay. All right. So now the, the fun ish questions.

The Perks of Traveling in CRM

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Um, what is the best thing that's happened to you that's related to being an archeologist and this can be personal or professional. I say, I say personal because I, I say personal because I met my wife on my very first archeology project. Oh, that's fantastic. And that's like,
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That's something you hear sometimes, like not real often, but that's great. No, I actually did not marry an archaeologist, so I can't claim anything like that. I think the best thing that's happened to me related to being a CRM archaeologist is the travel. I know that's the one thing in CRM that can really wear on people a lot, but I love to travel and I've been able to travel
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like to really cool places like the Caribbean or the middle of nowhere in Wyoming, which I would never have gone to or seen otherwise and is really beautiful in its own way. So I think that the travel and just being in these random, random places and experiencing those random places is the best thing that's happened to me. Awesome. All right. What is the biggest thing that you would change that would make being a CRM archaeologist

Improving Understanding of CRM Processes

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better? If I could change one thing,
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And this kind of relates to the next question that you're going to ask me. I would want everyone to know what we do, why we do it and how we do it. And that even includes some of our colleagues, right? So there's some really, really good archeologists who work in CRM who don't really understand the regs, who don't really understand maybe the process or, you know, some of the reasons that the overarching reasons that they're out there doing their really good archeology. Um,
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And I think that's hurt us more than helped us over the last few decades. So I would change people's knowledge of the Section 106 process in particular, as well as other regulations that people work under. Right, indeed. Okay, well, furthering that question then, what is your career goal in CRM?

Goals for Public Awareness in CRM Archaeology

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My career goal in CRM is for everyone to know how awesome CRM archaeology is, because it's
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you know 90% of archaeology done in the United States is CRM archaeology in some way and I think it would be great for the public to not only know what we do but kind of respect what we do and support it instead of it just being this
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weird thing that they hear about sometimes on Thanksgiving or Christmas or the random bar conversation. Right. Indeed. All right. Final question.

Advice for Aspiring CRM Professionals

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If you could give an undergrad thinking about a career in CRM one piece of advice, what would that be? Get as much variety of experience as you can. It can only help your career.

Closing and Listener Resources

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Show notes for this and all episodes can be found on the Archaeology Podcast Network website at www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/. At that page you'll also find a form that you can fill out so you can be interviewed on the show. Interviews take less than 30 minutes and you don't need any special equipment. Thanks for listening and I'll see you in the field.
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The show is produced by Chris Webster and Tristan Boyle and was edited by Chris Webster. This has been a presentation of the Archaeology Podcast Network. Visit us on the web for show notes and other podcasts at www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com Contact us at chrisatarchaeologypodcastnetwork.com