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A Cozy Murder Mystery Series With Chris in MT

The Checkout Stack

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Introduction and Guest Introduction

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Hello, and welcome to the Checkout Stack, where we talk books with a new librarian every episode. I am your host and the world's biggest library super fan, Maria Scogin, and I'm so excited to introduce our guest today, Chris Brenna from my home library in Livingston, Montana. Chris, thank you for being here today. Can you introduce yourself to our guests and tell us a little bit about our library in Livingston? Absolutely. Thank you, Maria, for having me.

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I love that you say that you're you're the biggest library fan and bringing this to the people because you and I met when we were bringing the bookmobile out to you. So that's ah that's a big part of what I want to talk about eventually.

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I work at the Livingston Park County Public

Outreach Challenges and Wildlife Encounters

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Library. I've been there five years. I also love books. I love talking about books. I love being around books. I'm like a kid in a candy store when I'm at work, which I think not everybody is lucky enough to have that. Livingston, so it is the Livingston Park County Public Library. So it's based in Livingston. We do outreach to the county.

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Shields Valley, Paradise Valley, Cook City. um we try to reach Park County is a big county and we try to reach all of our people. So that's one of our ah adventures and challenges of what we do at the library.

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Yeah, I don't think there's many librarians out there, Chris, that would regularly encounter buffalo and elk and antelope as they're trying to bring books out. Is that a regular occurrence for you? Right, right, right. You know, not so much when I'm heading north, but a Mitch, my boss, will take week weekly pictures of when he's going down to Gardner and to Yellowstone Park. and Yeah, i mean i I will admit I need to be careful when I'm on the road. There are there are deer and there are there's wildlife everywhere. I have to remember that I'm driving and not just sightseeing.

Podcast Inspiration and Library Superfan

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Yeah, I remember talking to the the woman who ran the bookmobile previous to you and telling her telling me a story about an elk that was standing five feet from the door of the bookmobile and people all started to get freaked out trying to get to their books.

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yeah yeah Yeah, that was Elena. she She was with us for a couple of years. She's since moved on, but yeah, she she was the full-blown bookmobile person. So she herself went all across the county. She probably had a few more adventures than i than I do. But yeah, I mean, that's dedication, right? It doesn't, you know, snow, wildlife, rain. We're going to bring you guys your books no matter what. We know how important it is.

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got to bring the books to the people. Yeah. Chris, I'm glad that you talked a little bit about how we met. So one of the inspirations that I had for the show was just every week I would see Chris at the bookmobile and we would talk about the books that we were reading and it was so much fun. And I thought, wow, we could really kind of make a podcast out of something like this where I just get to talk books with my favorite people, which happen to be librarians.

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um And i just I just wanted to say, for for the record, Chris, in this podcast, I claim to be the world's biggest library superfan.

Book Reviews: 'Happy Hour' and 'How to Solve Your Own Murder'

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In your experience, for the record, am I the world's biggest library superfan?

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Oh, i I can't think of anybody that's bigger. you Hands down, hands down. One of our first times we it had an interaction and I loved this. You returned a book and I think the time before I had asked you like, what what did you what did you think? And now it's a regular occurrence where I don't even ask. You you bring me the book and you give me the little synopsis and it's like,

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now i Now I've read that book and now I i have something to share with with people. i think that's ah I think that's an indication of being a super fan because you you read the book and you share the book and you're already thinking about your next read. So yeah, yeah short short answer long. Yes, you are the library's biggest super fan.

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and I love it. i I'm going to have that audio, but that audio quote printed out. and yes Yes. Well, I think we can maybe jump into talking about books. So we're going to kick off today with talking about our recent reads. I will go first. So I recently read Happy Hour by Marlo Granados.

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And I listened to it on audio, and I would highly recommend it in the audio format. So the book Happy Hour is written from the point of view of a journal of a 21-year-old cosmopolitan Isa, as she and her best-run gala flit from party to party in New York City. They never seem to have much money, but yet they are always being surrounded by decadence.

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their legal status in the US is dubious. So they are always looking for their next gig to make cash under the table. But with a combination of wit and perseverance, they always seem to make do. The writing of the book reminded me a lot of like, legally blonde. Like, she's just so funny and like, witty, but also just like the whole kind of valley party girl voice.

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And at the start of the book, you think maybe she's a little vapid, but the more you read and listen to her, the more you realize that she is really orchestrating every room that she's in and reading the social scene and manipulating it to be in her favor. The plot line, I would say if you're someone who needs like a really strong plot line, this book is not for you. They basically just go from like party to party to party to party.

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And there's like little things that come up and and happen that are like issues they have to work through, but there's no like huge theme or or huge like issue that they're having to kind of work their way through. But that works for me. I don't necessarily need a super strong plot line.

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All in all, the book is a celebration of youth and freedom and kind of living your best life in New York City in your 20s. And I found it to be a delightful read. So that was Happy Hour by Marlo Granados. I can picture, I can't remember the character's name in Legally Blonde, but I picture Reese Witherspoon as as you're giving that synopsis of her just flitting around party to party. And and she's so...

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tricky. She's the smartest person in the room. Right. And she's, she just knows how to read the scene and it's not things you would normally read about, but it's like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Like when you're trying to flatter someone to be safe or to get them to buy you drinks, like. Right. right yeah Very cool. Yeah. Chris, what is, what was a book that you read recently?

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The book I finished actually two nights ago was How to Solve Your Own Murder by Kristen Perrin. It's one I've had off and on of my to read list for the last six months or so and I finally had time to get to it.

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So you know it's a classic murder mystery. It takes place in England. So it has you know that background, those the old the old hedges, the old palace castle-type homes.

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This was a challenge for me to read. It's a book where it has multiple storylines, you know, where they're going forward and then back into the past. I almost stopped reading it again because of that. It was getting a little convoluted, but I'm so glad i I pushed through. The story was really, really good. So it's a story about teenagers in London in 1965. They're partying. They're going to this British state for drinking and partying, what you do as a teenager in England, I suppose. And the the caretaker of the of the home approaches the children, and that's where it all gets intertwined. You find out that there are relationships amongst

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parents and children and pregnancies and adoptions. And you you you know in the end, you find out how these people are all actually connected and it's not just on the surface.

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how main characters are actually aunts versus mothers, et cetera. It's not that complicated of a story, but there's enough twists and turns in it that it kept me it kept me intrigued.

New Releases and Book Recommendations

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and And as you know, I like that kind of setting. I like i like the stories and set in England.

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the This woman, this was her first adult book. she's She writes more junior novels, junior fiction. yeah Could you tell the writing that it was her first adult novel?

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In some ways, yeah i think that i yes, I think that was part of my struggle with getting cra grabbed in. But I would recommend it. And it looks like it's going to be one of a series. So I've already got, i've I've tagged her to follow her from now on and continue the series, hopefully. Chris, could you repeat the name of that book one more time for the listener? Yep.

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Absolutely. That was How to Solve Your Own Mystery by Kristen Perrin, just released this year. Nice. Okay. Next, we are going to go into the recommendation section of the podcast. So to start off with, we're going to talk about a new book. So this is something that's come out in the last year that might be hot on the shelves. Chris, what do you have for a new book for us? My new book is The Lost Story by Meg Schaefer. Wonderful, wonderful fantasy series. It's a book that when I looked it up, it said for, for

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people who like the Chronicles of Narnia, which is so interesting for me to say because I've never read the Chronicles of Narnia. But just having that in our in our background and in our lives, it caught me. This is a story about two boys, two teenage boys who go missing in the woods of West Virginia. in In real time, they're gone for, I think, nine months.

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which is which is fascinating. and And nine months later, they they just reappear and they they've aged, they've matured, they've grown. And I think this is where the Chronicles of Narnia comes in is they've gone to a different world. In their lives, they walk through this tree and they go to this world with,

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with princesses and knights and queens and battles between the lands, which then it's another story where it's multilayered, where you are living in real time and you hear about these boys in their Narnia-esque adventures. This one was really, really great. The main characters, Jeremy and Rafe, are they they met in middle school. They became best friends.

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Their relationship is deeper than what it is on the surface in real time. And as you find out in their other world, their relationship is deep and there's love and there's heartbreak and there are things that you're you're not expecting. the The sad part of this is is so they come back to the real world and and Rafe doesn't remember.

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So he doesn't remember his time in the other world. And so in real time, there are 15 years where these these friends do not speak to each other. And the the connector is is that Jeremy has become this person who helps find lost people. And he is approached by this woman to find her her lost sister and the sister is I don't know how much I should give away, but the sister is also a character in this other world. So the the the sister reaches out to Jeremy and Jeremy cannot find this person without Rafe's help. So there's this reconnection of them to help find this lost woman.

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That is fascinating, one. I'm so intrigued by this. I did grow up reading the Chronicles of Narnia. And here's some of the things that sound different to me that are so interesting. So in the Chronicles of Narnia, they disappear into the wardrobe. But when they come back, like no time has passed at all.

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And in this one, it sounds like time has passed, which is kind of a dark twist because how scary to have kids go missing for significant periods and then come back different. Like that sounds so sinister compared to like the very upbeat, warm feeling of the Chronicles of Darnia. Is this written for adults or is this YA?

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it is It is, you know, it's cataloged as adults. i think I think older young adults would probably be okay with it. You know, some of the relationships are maybe not acceptable for younger people. and And I guess especially people who have read the Chronicles of Narnia, is it correct to say that it's probably not as PG as The Chronicles of Narnia. Yeah, those are pretty PG books. Yeah, yeah. And you know and i again, I don't want to give too much away, but there's some there's some relationships that are... if If younger people were reading at you, there would be lots of explaining, or some explaining, and some some parents may or may not want to do that. Okay, so just because a kid can read The Chronicles of Narnia does not mean they could necessarily read the lost story.

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Yeah, yeah.

Deep Dive into 'The Alchemist'

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Well, I think I actually Googled this while on the Bookmobile, and i think i I think it actually said, if you it like the adult version of the Chronicles of Narnia, I believe, and that's what pulled me in.

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i'm I'm kind of that type of person. I don't want to go off on a huge tangent, but like everything I know about Star Wars, I know about because of the movie Spaceballs. So like I'm that type of person.

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not can room may not ah yeah the yeah yeah don't like green offshoot ah yes exactly and so like i i I guess I like the mocking of it more or like the twists of it that are like the original, but with their own spins. And and that's totally what this is. you know it was it was I won't say a tearjerker, but it it was it was good and it was it was an emotional ride. I i would recommend it. i think I think you would like it. I think lots of the people I see at the library would like it too. Yeah. Yep. I'm definitely putting that on my list. ah That was The Lost Story by Meg Shaffer.

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Next up, we are going to talk about a backlist title. So the purpose of the backlist section is to pick a book that might actually be on the shelves at your library with no hold list. No promises, but that's that's why we do it. So Chris, what is a backlist title that you pulled to talk about today? Yeah, I know this is on the shelf because I pulled it from the shelf yesterday and we have two copies of it.

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Perfect. it's it's some It's somewhat of a classic, The Alchemist by Paolo Quello. It is a classic tale of self-discovery. I mean, i will I will start off with that. When I first read this book in my 20s, I didn't know what it was. I finished it and I was just kind of and was kind of lost, which I think is perfect because this book is about finding yourself.

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It's about a young shepherd walking across the desert. he's It's the family business. he He really doesn't have any other options at this point that he thinks of. But then he falls in love with ah but the with a young woman at one of his stops. And he continues on his quest of shepherding, but then eventually transitions and and sells his sheep and searching for her. I have heard people talk about The Alchemist a lot in my life because it is, like you said, kind of a classic. And I didn't realize that there was a love story plot line. Is most of the book about the love story or is it more about Santiago?

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it's It's mostly about Santiago and and in his self-discovery. But I think like with most of us, and I don't want to generalize, like that that falling in love and that pull to find Fatima is her name, it overtakes the story in a way. and i think I think the self-love comes from the feelings of love for another, if that makes sense. So so it is it is certainly about Santiago and his journey and his return journey. I i think inspired by love, inspired by the boat ah want of the love of another,

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Yeah, so the loves the love line is kind of the driving force for Santiago to do his own self-discovery. Yes. where where What is the, like, what age, what day in age is this taking place in? He's a sheep. Oh, the story itself. The story itself, I believe, that's a good question. As I as i pick it up, it reminds me of It reminds me of like Old Testament, or you know it it has that kind of parable of Bible time, which I guess is ah is a big timeline. But I picture it as early, probably I would say around the time of Jesus, I guess. Okay. Yeah, that's that's what I was picturing when you said sheep herder. So like, that's not a modern day occupation.

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Yeah, and and I don't know that it's necessarily a book about Christianity, but there is the spirituality in it as well. Okay. The mysticism, the the being guided by the stars, being guided by the the sand, being guided by the oases that are taking him across the deserts.

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finding finding a church in the middle of nowhere. I i find it like a Bible story, like a religious story, but act in a way that is terrible of teaching. Yeah. Explorations of spirituality and self-discovery.

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That's okay. Um, it's so interesting to hear you just talk about this book, because like I said, I know so many people who have read the alchemist, but I've never really understood what it was about. And I feel like I've got a much better picture now of what the plot line is and what you're going to get out of it, which is spirituality, self discovery, being young and trying to find yourself and, and also that love plot line.

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So that was The Alchemist by Paolo Coelho.

Montana Literature and Regional Themes

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Next up, we're going to talk about a local author. As we mentioned earlier in the podcast, Chris and I are here in the Big Sky State of Montana. Chris, where is our local author from in Montana? Do you know? I do know because I met Stacy when I moved back to Livingston.

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and You were both in totally random fields of work. And I met her and I didn't even know she was an author. I didn't even know she was working on a book. um Stacy, I think, is originally from Canada, but she's she's set up shop in Livingston. She lives in Livingston with her daughter. Her first novel is the lovely and dangerous launch of Lucy Cavanaugh.

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It's this really cool gold rush Western story of this amazingly strong woman character. It's so cool. I picture Stacy putting herself into this character. yeah it's I'm not a huge fan of Westerns, but the settings of being on stagecoaches and having robberies and the the fears of the reality of the time was was so enlightening and so cool. I just felt like I was in that stagecoach with her. So the the story is of Lucy Cavanaugh. She's a New York City heiress, literary lover and dreamer. She's taking the biggest risk of her life by heading west.

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And when she's in Colorado is when she is robbed. And so the story actually takes place in Denver. I do think this is another one that has a little bit of a love twist in it. Of course, I don't want to say damsel in distress, but it's kind of.

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kind of like that. Sure, cowgirl in distress. where Yes, yes. and But the the great thing is, is Lucy doesn't have to have that. Like that is not like the main theme of this book is falling in love. It's it's a book of self-discovery. I mean, it's a it's a book of independence, of women womanhood. I mean, it's just, it's, it's, I don't want to push this too much, but it just, it is the author's book. It is her, it is her master work. And I just see so much of Stacey in the characters. And I think that's fascinating, getting to know somebody and seeing their work like that.

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Yeah, that is fascinating. And so the book is a Western, right? So she gets robbed in the stagecoach and then the rest of the plot line, does she, is it still kind of her being in that lifestyle or does then she become more of like a vigilante? So yeah. So she, once the stagecoach is robbed, I believe she just She's in Denver. And so then the plot kind of twists to, I guess she's already moved West. So now she is in the West. And so then it's, and then it's, it's her being ingrained into that community as, as this outsider, as this Easterner, um, and how these people grow to accept her and love her and make her part of that community.

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So I guess it's, it's yeah. i That sounds like a really great plot line for me to read. In our state of Montana, there's definitely a feeling of like you grew up here or you moved here. And so a story line that wraps around like you moved here, but you are accepted and part of the community sounds like a balm to my soul.

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Yes, yes, I think that's huge and i think I think we need to work on that. I think we need to be more accepting and realize that Montana is a big place and there's so much to share and learn and express with each other. I think this is a great novel for that too.

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Yeah. Well, I love the way that the themes of your community come through with the local author because, uh, like we said, that's a very specific issue to kind of the area that we're in. And I don't know if someone captured that who maybe wasn't already thinking about it because they weren't in the same place as us. So that sounds like a very interesting and and exciting read. That

Cozy Mysteries and 'Shady Hollow'

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was the lovely and dangerous launch of Lucy Cavanaugh by Stacy Peterson.

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Next up, we're going to go into our final book recommendation segment. This is the bookend. So this is inspired by all the library bookends you've ever seen that have pulled a random topic and then a couple of titles on that topic. So Chris, what is your topic for the bookend today?

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Oh, and it's perfect for like Halloween time. So my bookend is Murder Mystery. And I stumbled across this awesome series. It's called Shady Hollow.

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it's it's these these It's this murder mystery series where the main character is a fox. The fox is works out in a local newspaper. And all characters in these series are animals. So the main character Vera Vixen is a fox. the The police officer is a bear. the The moose runs the coffee shop. A raven runs the bookstore. And it's just this the this light, fun series

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which spoil alert there's a murder in every book so they fixing

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bara vixon who's this ah newspaper writer is the turned into a detective. She helps the incompetent bear who is the police officer who can't who can't seem to see anything that's right under his nose. He would rather be out fishing.

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and it it's just there There are currently five books in the series. I've read them all in the last two months. just because they were so fun and so light and the characters are just, do you fall in love with them. You just, as you know, it as a ah lover of books and a lover of literacy, don't we all think that we're going to become this amateur detective who's going to solve mysteries and and murders and

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I just, I was so engrossed by it and it's, it's another series that's, that's kind of, I don't want to say amateurish because I think people in their 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s would love it too, but they're just, it's a light idea oh of living in this world where animals coexist and there is no, there is no animosity between them for for on the surface of bears versus foxes. It's like they're they're, again, part of the same community. And I just picture this big moose handing out little espresso cups to the bear police officer as he's trying to solve his mystery.

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a couple of things from what you just said that I wanted to touch on. Number one, yes, every reader, what an experience that every reader has this unrealistic idea that we are going to stumble across the dead body and that it will be up to us and only us to solve it. Yes. making that is I've never heard anyone say it like, yes. Yes. That's so funny.

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and And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Like, I've noticed myself being, noticing little details, and noticing, huh, well, that's not where I left my coffee cup, or so-and-so did so-and-so take out the garbage, and is that why it was knocked over. i don't It's just been ingrained in me to be like this amateur detective in my day-to-day life.

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ah so

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and I wanted to ask Chris, are you familiar with the term cozy mysteries? yeah Yes, yes. And maybe I'll just for the listener in case they haven't heard this before, I'll explain. A cozy mystery is generally a mystery book where the the murder that happens or whatever the thing they're trying to solve is like very cushioned so it's not graphic and it's not super sad and then the rest of the story about solving the murder is also not graphic and sad so it's like it's a mystery but it doesn't it makes you feel very like comforted is would you put this in the cozy mystery category

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Absolutely. Absolutely. I think, I think you hit it more correctly than I did. I would certainly say that's a cozy, a cozy mystery series. Absolutely. You know, I didn't lose any sleep over it. I didn't feel, I didn't have any scared feelings. Nope. Not graphic, not, no. Perfect. and I actually think that I have checked out the first book of the series from you and not ready.

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Sure. Chris knows I love to, I always over check out books. I'm an ambitious book checker outer. And then I just return when I don't read. So I'm gonna, I'm definitely gonna have to give this one another go. What was the name of the first book in that series, Chris? you Yeah, the the first book is simply Shady Hollow. Okay. And so that is by Juno The Shady Hollow series by Juno Black for our bookend. So Juno Black is actually two authors. It's two women, which is another intriguing idea for me is how how do co-authors do that? Do you give page by page, character by character? But that's that's another layer to thinking about that book too.

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Yeah, that is fascinating. There aren't very many books I can think of off the top of my head I've read that were written by multiple people, but I know that that happens.

Library Services Expansion in Park County

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So that would be that'd be interesting if you if we found an interview by those authors about how they actually do it. Yeah. Yeah.

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All right. Well, that caps off our recommendations portion of the show. So next up, Chris, I wanted to leave some space for you to plug anything relevant to the Livingston Library that you might want to share with our audience.

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Absolutely. Thank you. Yeah, we're in an interesting time with our library. we We are a city and county library. And so what we're going for on this November, we're putting a mill levy on our on the ballot for hoping to make our library clearly more countywide. And I mean that in a way where having established libraries in locations,

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instead of possibly just the Bookmobile hitting those locations. So um having permanent locations with staff at those spots. So Chris, just so our listeners understand, the Livingston Library, Livingston Park County Library that you work at today has one location in Livingston, Montana. Yes.

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Park County, however, is much larger than just Livingston. So what, the farthest that you guys currently drive is all the way to Cook City, right? In Cook City, is how long of a drive is that from the Livingston County Library? Oh, that's a good question. I think Mitch is currently in Cook City today. He goes there once a month. I believe it's at least at least a two hour drive, if not if not longer. I think I might be short changing that. Yes, it is a long, long drive. It is a long drive. It's a long drive on a nice day like today. It's an even longer drive in the winter. And I actually think some of the roads are closed during the winter months. So there's that isolation of Cook City.

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So the hope for that is to be would be to have permanent locations in those communities that our Park County residents could take advantage of. Books, Wi-Fi, just everything that library patrons need these days.

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We've worked really hard to reach these communities, but it's it's just it's too hard. The county is too big. We don't have enough staff. I mean, it's the same probably at most libraries. So so if this levy passed, it would allow us to expand. It would allow us to help those people in the county who don't necessarily get to Livingston. Do you happen to have the the number of the middle levy or or what the voters looking at their ballot? What that should they be looking for? Yeah, so the middle levy is referendum R-003. It will be on

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the the ballot this November. So what what it actually is, is it's looking to expand the number of levies that we would have. the The library is currently funded by some of these levies that were established in the 1990s. And if it did not pass, we would continue to exist. We would continue to help the people that we can. But with this expansion, we could just grow and we could expand. And like the general hope would be a library in Shields Valley, a library in Paradise Valley, a library in Cook City, and a library in Gardner.

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And again, not like building libraries, but setting up libraries in established locations. So so the funding would actually be for for materials, for staff, and for the continuing growth of the library in our in our county.

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And just to just to say, to you know like you said, the levies that the library is currently operating under were established in the 90s. And I think everyone who lives in this county knows that it does not look the same as it did in the 90s. Our population has significantly grown in all of the areas that you just mentioned. so this levy would help the library continue to be able to serve the community at the scale that it has been with the growth of the county and hopefully do do even more, be able to provide even more services. So anything else about that before we wrap up the show? No, you know, I think i think if anybody has questions, we're accessible on Facebook. We have a website.

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Thank you so much, Chris. This has been a wonderful episode. If you enjoyed listening, please give us a five-star review to help us grow our numbers. If you are a librarian and interested in being on the show, please reach out to me at the checkout stack at gmail dot.com.

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Speaker

ah Chris can attest that I am extremely nice and I hope to make the experience for guests on the podcast very present. Chris, would you recommend to any fellow librarians to do the show?

00:40:02

Speaker

Oh, absolutely. I'm going to go tell everybody that I know that they need to check this out. Thank you, Maria. I mean, this is, as you know, I would do this every single day. I would sit and talk to you with you about books, about library, anything with our, with our cup of coffee and our, and our sharing our knowledge and quests on finding the best books.

00:40:30

Speaker

Yeah. Well, and lucky us because we get to keep doing that every time we see each other. So, all righty. Listen, thank you for joining us today. Now go forth and use your public library.