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Speaker: Welcome to the show everybody. My name is Brian with me always. I'm Mark and don't sit over there. Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah. Uh, Streamyard had a very high volume. So, you know, that's what happens there. Uh -huh. Uh -huh. You didn't, uh, you didn't edit anything, did you?
Speaker: Why would I? That ladies and gentlemen, thank you guys for tuning in. What the hell was I supposed to? What was I? I don't know. You got to you got to find the little button and you got to play with a little button, a little. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wanted to thank everybody for tuning in tonight. If you notice that there's this little little guy right there in the corner right over there.
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Speaker: Hell yeah. So Wednesday night you got, uh, what the news. And that's a brand new segment. And if you want to check that out, that's going to be anything that's in the news that seems to be funny for the audience. That's what these guys are going with. And we're going to just keep supporting the hell out of it. And, uh, next week Mark will be the special guest sports host. This is happening.
Speaker: Yeah. Oh, it's a dream come true for you. You're not. No, no, no. Any on Thursday, on Thursday, of course, you have us talking shit. Shit. We're pretty special. We get little placards that hang from our rearview mirrors. So no, my license plate, by the way.
Speaker: We're on Friday. Friday is Glick's House of Music. Check out Christopher as he delves into some high -end and mainstream music artist. And dude, he's got some awesome shows that he just did recently. We'll address those at a later time, but man, check it out. You're gonna miss out if you don't.
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Speaker: Jarvis sits down, Steven sits down and talks to actors, actresses, kind of what we do here. He also does movie reviews. Movie reviews. So if you get a chance, check him out as well. And that is your whole week in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen. Please follow us wherever you find podcast at bio .link. You got that somewhere? Yeah.
Speaker: I know you have that. There you go. The nonsensical network. So Mark, what do you got planned for our audience tonight? Oh, I'll keep popping that up for a minute. Actually, I got us a really good guest tonight. He's from well, he's all over the place. He's been on Broadway. He's been on daytime. So he's been on movies. He's been he can even sing, by the way.
Speaker: stop it yes did you bring a singer on uh well no not i didn't bring i well he he probably does that in his spare time too i'm just i'm just saying because you know tomorrow night is glitz out some music and we can do a double yeah yeah yeah anyways um he's in um well the original reason why i had uh i brought him on is because well one you know i like rose blood and you know
Speaker: And I, I was like, okay, well, since he was in that, and I've had, we've had almost everybody else on here, uh, from Roseblood, um, minus a few people, uh, wanted him to be on. And, uh, you are a super big, huge, uh, Friday, the 13th van. Are you not? Yes. Uh, when I first watched this movie, um, uh, Friday, the 13th part seven, um, I wasn't a big fan and it had nothing to do with the acting. It was just, you know, just wasn't my type of tea on that part.
Speaker: But when, um, I met Peter Anthony, he changed my mind completely. And especially once he added rose blood to it, it changed completely. But anyways, um, while he's sitting there, you know, Oh, well he's sitting there, uh, you know, in the green room. Um, I'm probably going to butcher his name. Uh, so, uh, you got this. You said it earlier. Do it again. You got this. Cheers. Hey,
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Speaker: Kevin Spiritus. It rhymes with Spiritus. OK, see, that works for me. How you doing, Mark? I'm doing great. Well, he's got now that he gets to talk to you. He's super excited. Yes, I was excited. The day that I got your message, I messaged you back, and you gave me your number, and I was like, OK, cool. I called you. Nice guy in the biz, right? One of them, yes.
Speaker: Well, listen, Kevin, don't get upset with Mark. Here's the thing. You guys from everybody that has been in Roseblood, everybody that is a part of the Friday, the 13th franchise.
Speaker: has been super awesome to allow us here at Talking Shit to have you guys on the show. And we're not going to talk about Friday the 13th stuff. We want to talk to you about your life. We're trying to dive in a little bit to get to know you. So we appreciate your time. All you guys have been very humble to be able to allow this small podcast
Speaker: to have you guys all on the show. So thank you for that. Yes. Go ahead. I'm turning off my phone right now. I just realized that if this phone starts ringing, it'll never stop. What do you mean, shit? I mean, shoot. Oh, you can swear. Don't worry. We say worse. Thank you. I appreciate the, you know, I appreciate that. All of that. Thank you.
Speaker: Absolutely. Okay, I think we should do a podcast on how people treat their Alexis. There you go.
Speaker: So so so I have a yeah, I have a I have Siri on the on the iPhone. So I'm like, hey, Siri, you know, do this for me and then she can't. And then I'm like, OK, well, what? Right. I actually was listening to something from.
Speaker: Oh my God. Peter Anthony's on. Hello. That's right. That's right. Hello my friend. He's a great, he's a great guy. I love having him on the show. I love talking to him about the movies he's making. I love, you know, there's a lot of shit that I love about him. You know, he's a great guy. I, um, I'm pretty fond of Mr. Anthony. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Um, but back to my theory, I was playing something from
Speaker: a book on Audible and I threw it to my, this just doesn't matter. Let's just talk about shit. Come on. Let's go. Whatever you want to talk about. What do you want to talk about? You guys ask the questions.
Speaker: Listen, we don't want to turn it into an interview, Kevin. We're just here to talk. We want to ask questions, but we do want to talk. We just want to talk about whatever you want to talk about. Everybody that we've asked so far, from Friday the 13th stuff, before you were cast in the role of Nick, did you know what Friday the 13th was? I did not know it was Friday the 13th. It was called Birthday Bash. It's secret code was Birthday Bash.
Speaker: I got an audition to run in and go read for Carl. Carl Buechler, right? Oh my God. Wait, that's our director's name. It's Pass. Carl Buechler, right? Yeah. Yeah. It just didn't sound right for a second. It sounded like something else. Anyway, he was very kind to me. Anthony Bardello, our casting director at the time as well. He's passed as well.
Speaker: They were just like, come on in here, read this, you know, this is the scene. And I had not prepared any of this. They had sort of given it to me, like here, read. And then Lara was in the hall. I didn't know who she was. I didn't, you know, not that I should know her, but, and her husband was alive at the time and he was there. And we just sort of like went in and read together. And then I went back in and read by myself.
Speaker: And by the time I drove home, I got a call from my agent saying, hey, you're in the Meath Friday the 13th movie. Congratulations. And I went, what? What? Fun fact, prior to that audition,
Speaker: I was auditioning for a soap opera called Santa Barbara. Remember Santa Barbara? I remember that. That didn't last very long, right? I guess maybe 10 years, maybe less give or take, but Santa Barbara. I think it was on more than Port Charles, I think it was. I think you're right. It lasted longer than rituals, which is another series I did. Anyway, so I was up for a role.
Speaker: on Santa Barbara. And I remember this was like, I was going to get this puppy. I was going to get it. I was going to be on a soap again. This is earlier on. And, and I see coming down the hallway, this guy who I recognize and go, Hey, Hey. And I didn't know his name. I didn't remember his name.
Speaker: but I remembered him, I never forget a face, and I said, you and I, did Hillside Eyes Part II together. You did that stunt where they dragged you through the ring of fire. He goes, yeah, yeah, Kevin, right? I said, yeah, he's Kane, and we introduce ourselves again. And he said, hey, I just got the new Friday the 13th movie. Like, that's what he had said to me at that, because he was the stunt coordinator for Santa Barbara. So that was kind of the cool, like, mm -hmm. And I went, oh, I think I know the stunt guy.
Speaker: So I got an in. So I know Bob over here. Bob is a really nice guy. He's talking to him. Don't. I'm just talking to him. He's talking to my stuff. Yes, he's talking to himself. I do that randomly. I talk to Amy. I talk to Mary.
Speaker: I want to hold one of those. So I was going to get there. What are all four of those four? And can I hold one? If you come here, you can hold one. I'm happy to have you pay me to hold it. No. But hey, I mean Miami. You have four of those, right?
Speaker: I have four, but who's counting, really? Fantastic. I have four Emmys for a series called After Forever. It's on Prime. Season one and two are now out, and season three is on its way. We're not exactly sure. We're hoping for the beginning of June, middle of June. It's a story about love, loss, and new beginnings that I co -created with my late collaborator, Michael Slade. It's a lot of late.
Speaker: going on here, a lot of grief. But the story is about my character named Brian. And my - I know a guy. He sounds just like, no, Brian, there's two middle aged men in there. We're about in our fifties, early fifties, and my partner. Maybe you can move over there in that top right in front of the door. Thank you.
Speaker: I got this very nice neighbor. She is quiet across the street and her, but she walks with her phone every day. And I really don't care. All right. I'm coming across like a maniac here, but that's good. Anyway, Brian and Jason have everything in the world they want. They have, uh, love their friends. They have great jobs, great apartment. And one day Jason gets cancer and dies. And, um, can you hear her?
Speaker: She says she's yelling. Anyway, it has never been my story. It just makes for a better show. Let's hear what she has to say. There we go. And stay out. Okay, Brian and Jason have everything.
Speaker: And my character, Brian, has to navigate back to finding a way to live in his life without the love of his life, no longer alive. So, you know, they have this great 15 year relationship and then starts over. You know, he's got to make peace with everything he thought was important. He's trying to train here with Kevin, everybody, his work is gone. That is just absolutely,
Speaker: Oh, you're gonna hold it. You're gonna hold on to it. I got it. The story takes place in three levels. It's the reality of the present. There's the past, which are the relationship between Brian and myself, Jason and myself. And then there is the sort of a ghost like element, which is on the third level where I conjure Jason up.
Speaker: Not fun.
Speaker: And I talked to him, even though he's dead. So it's really me having a conversation with myself. And it's being taken on by the presence of Jason's, you know, for some. Anyway, so it's, um, it makes me want to watch it now. Well, I would think you would just want to watch it. It's not, it's not just that it's, um, it's not about a gay couple. It's about loss. Really. I just, this is depicted through two men and, um,
Speaker: middle -aged men and women are, most of the time, nowhere to be found in the story of, they're nowhere on the canvas of storytelling. So this is why my partner at the time, people are just calling right and left, I know, I'm on the T, I'm on the YouTube folks, come on. Go in there and write it, not here, anyway. So,
Speaker: It's mom. She's like, are you on the TV? Yeah, I am. I am. I am. Anyway, so the case is
Speaker: middle -aged characters are very rarely written into the canvas of storytelling. So Michael at the time, who used to write for me on Days of Our Lives, and I didn't really know that at the time either, we had this idea. So there you go. Amazon, season one and two, After Forever, Kleenex not included. So wait a minute, I'm a grown -ass fan, am I gonna cry? Yeah. Son of a bitch. You don't think much to make him cry anyways?
Speaker: Get out of here, dude. I think, I think, I think, here's the thing. Anyone who's watching, I'll say this, everyone who's watching is going to experience loss.
Speaker: period. End of story, beginning of story. End of story, beginning of story. It's a cycle. We are never, ever, ever going to escape this place without dealing with that or having it happen to us. Whether you deal with it is your choice or not. And when somebody dies, the relationship doesn't necessarily end if you think about it.
Speaker: when Michael and I were talking about, you know, he had had a partner at the time who had died. And I said, you still talk to him. He said, I do. I said, see. So it's a beautiful story. Lots of people don't recognize him. I'm fantastic in it, man, I must say. Well, you play a guy named Brian, so you have to - I know, come on, Brian Stone. One of those is for outstanding actor, which I shared with my leading man, Mitchell Anderson, because
Speaker: We cut our teeth in the business together and then here we are both nominated. Outstanding writing for 2019, outstanding drama series for short form 2019 and then 2020 we won outstanding writing. So again, you also need to know each episode is about seven to 12 minutes.
Speaker: So here's the thing. So you guys are on season three. So you guys are on season three of this show. So it's doing well. You are captivating the audience. Because here's the thing, they're not going to renew a show if you don't have the people watching. I love that that's where you're going with it. The truth be told, it's self -promoted. It's self -distributed.
Speaker: So it is on Amazon, but it's because we have signed up to be on Amazon. We wrote three seasons together. We have completed the trilogy, not just because Michael Slade had passed away, but we both had decided early on that if we could tell the story on point or if we could tell it, you know,
Speaker: healthy, organic and creative way. It's time to go through it, deal with the loss, deal with the grief and then hopefully move on. Because how do you keep a dead person alive? And why do you want to keep a dead person alive unless Jason? Back full circle. Well, the Jason that you got, you know, they
Speaker: you help put it in the water, well, yeah, sort of. He's supposed to be dead, so. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, this was, this is from a different standpoint, a different genre, and we just really wanted to make him, make my character more heroic and getting through the grief. And the third season, which is on its way out, or on its way into the streaming element of things, my character goes with therapy.
Speaker: to deal with it. I don't go to therapy. I watch I watch men's mental health Monday and that kind of helps me. My wife will love the show then I bet you she's gonna go okay. I think I think I think
Speaker: Thank you, and it is a mental health show. I mean, the truth be told, and let's just talk, let's talk some shit about grief, okay? I see how I tie that back in there. So my mom died two years ago on Mother's Day. So on Sunday, when everybody was celebrating Mother's Day, I never posted anything. And I think I got questioned a little bit, like, why didn't you post Happy Mother's Day to your wife or something? And I was like,
Speaker: because I didn't want to think about it. I didn't, I didn't do it because you know, my wife lives with me, you know, I can tell her when she's here. So putting it all over Facebook. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So I guess I get the, I get the grief. We all have a relationship. We all have a relationship degree, but here's what I was going to say. Um, I believe that whether you're a hetero,
Speaker: gay, bi, have a partner, have a person you're married to, you should watch this with your after forever. Yeah, you know. I will watch this with my wife. She will absolutely, I think like this a lot too. I think Brian, I'm gonna go on record here. I think you're gonna actually, you're gonna love it. If I cry though,
Speaker: I think the great source of all living things gave us a lot of emotions to deal with, gave us laughter, gave us tears, gave us joy, gave us sorrow. You know, we get to work on all this and
Speaker: My belief is this, if I can go through the healing of it as a person in the character, hopefully you guys or you audience are going to see that healing and you're gonna take that healing with you. Oh, look, see, wow. Camera. Do you get one of those special cameras that Tommy McLaughlin has? I don't know what it is. If I press it,
Speaker: I can't do it from this. We try to fix that. Tommy's got a camera. When he would move to the left, the camera would follow him to the left. Oh, there it is. Like what you're doing. Yes. You have the same one. I can also turn it off, but not through this particular program. OK, there's a question here from Peter that I've been reading, and I'm sort of curious. Peter Anthony, my brother from Another Mother. OK. Oh, good question, Peter Anthony.
Speaker: How Blair became spirit, wait. Oh, sorry, hit the wrong button. It's not too personal, the fans would like to know. Well, my full name is Kevin Blair Spiritus. And when I was 18 and I went to New York and I wanted to declare my independence, I dropped Spiritus. I wanted to be unattached to the family identity. I wanted to be out of my own. And I also knew that,
Speaker: I knew that Kevin Blair was, you know, a great stage name and alphabetical. It'd get maybe higher building, who knows. But after a while, there was a time in my life that I really wanted to reclaim my family name. And that's how, I mean, that's the real short of the story. I reclaimed it after a while. My heritage, I wanted to claim back the family and the
Speaker: Lithuanian, Russian, you know, dude that I am back. Does it answer your question, Peter Anthony? Good. I don't know if a lot of people have asked you this. I don't know how many podcasts you've done, how many interviews you've done in the past. A lot. But
Speaker: but none of them compared to this shit. I mean, this shit show. How did you get your start into acting? I like to ask this because some people tell me it was a happy mistake. Yeah, I think for me growing up as a, I grew up in St. Louis, Missouri on the middle of three boys. And,
Speaker: I had a music teacher, I still have a music teacher, who's no longer my music teacher, but she is now the mayor of Clarksville, Missouri, and this is Jo Ann Smiley, and we're still in touch. She was kind of, she was like the Pied Piper in the choral aspect of my life. I love to sing, I heard you guys talk about music, I do sing. And that was my first love, it still is really.
Speaker: I'm working on another evening of music where I'll be telling stories about my life, depicted through the music of Peter Allen, separate from that. I just, you know, I would wait for the late, late, late, late, late show to play on TV at night. And I would hope that they'd show movie musicals or, you know, Gene Kelly or Fred Astaire, anything like that. And I just, I wanted to be in those movies and I didn't,
Speaker: I guess I didn't know it at the time, but I felt there was a certain moment in my life, this is pre -internet, this is pre -web
Speaker: everything and phones, cell phones, anything like that. And some people watching don't know don't know what before internet is. Yeah. So before digital, let's just say before digital, which was when they made the first Friday, the 13th, you know, and part seven 36 years ago. Woo. May 13th. Yeah, I was going to say. So anyway, I felt
Speaker: at that time and you know growing up as a young gay boy not really knowing what to do with that I felt that if I could hide behind the creative characters and that no one would ever see that and it was all about image it was all about probably more about hiding at that time in my life and I just didn't really
Speaker: I didn't know what that was psychologically, but I think that it had a lot to do with my wanting to get away and become somebody else. So acting and performing was always something that I loved doing. I just thought it had something else to offer. When the truth is, every role that I have ever taken on, and I will say this with as much assuredness as I can offer you is,
Speaker: There's always something for me to learn from every role that I take on, every role that I do, every role that interests me, every song or musical that arrests my spirit. I know I have to do it. A Chorus Line on Broadway was my first musical credit as a professional actor, singer -dancer, and I remember
Speaker: that show came through St. Louis as a kid. And I remember watching and going, I want to be up there. And I want to do that role. And I got the role. I can do that. Singing and dancing. So that's just something that I know is part of me. And if I'm, again, if I'm in it and I'm working through it and I've done something right, I think that it allows people to tap into that and they can also get something out of it too, I hope.
Speaker: What is your favorite musical? And that is my speech for my Tony. What is your favorite musical? It's like apples and oranges. I still to this day, I think I love a chorus line. It's a story about the dancers who make up
Speaker: the the the they support they used to be called gypsies and um uh they're now that it's technically it's uh politically incorrect to say gypsies anymore about definitely gypsies i've watched the tv show there yeah and um
Speaker: The Les Miserables is still one of the greatest pieces of theater I think I've ever, ever witnessed. I never got to do that shit. As a matter of fact, I was auditioning for the National LA Company and Tour while I was doing and filming Friday the 13th. Oh, no shit. Nice.
Speaker: Wrist it. Would you have dropped Friday the 13th? I actually, I was learning it. It wouldn't have crossed over. Okay. I remember driving that hour every morning to the set here in Gardena. I didn't first like that musical. I didn't. And then I went in to sing for it and they said, you obviously have your
Speaker: You have your heart set on the role of Marius and here you're called back and I'm like, oh, good, I gotta learn this. And sure enough, I'm like, a heart full of love, you know, all that stuff. It's just, it was, it's beautiful. I even do a parody in my one -man show, Night and Day, Night and Day is about my nights on Broadway, my days and days of our lives. Les Mis is phenomenal, yes. And I do, I do a,
Speaker: parody of, um, one day more, I searched for truth and love around the clock. My tissue is tighter than the average doc. But, um, you know, I do this whole thing about being Dr. Fred Wesley at the university hospital and it's one day more. And yeah, there's my singing. You got it. Love it. Yeah. I was trying to find a video of you singing and all the videos I found were grainy and wasn't really good. So I couldn't do it.
Speaker: Well, here, let me just help you out. So Days of Our Lives was my stepmother's absolute favorite show. She unfortunately had passed early in 2017. So it was before your time, however. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Days of Our Lives. You're thinking of one life to live.
Speaker: She was in days of our lives fan though. Yes. I thought you were on until I thought you were on from dude. He was on there from 97 to 103 2005 2009 and 2022.
Speaker: I learned who Marlena was. I thought we John Black. Those were the two characters that I had to watch. Like, she was like, hey, listen, Marlena just came back from the bed and I was like, who the fuck is Marlena? My grandmother used to make me watch it and I'd go, I hate this stuff. You know, most people would recognize him because he did a guest role on Friends.
Speaker: I play Dr. Craig Wesley opposite Matt LeBlanc doing Drake LeBlanc. I have a couple of little singing things here. You keep talking and I'll just see if I can find any of it right here. Okay. Go ahead. I don't want to cut you off. I was trying to think of what... No, go ahead. Give me a second.
Speaker: I was going to ask about married with children. Oh God. People ask about that other time. I really didn't have a very big, I was an aerobic instructor. But you got a chance to be around like Al Bundy and Peggy. Peggy. For just a hot second.
Speaker: I actually, Katie Seagal, I actually knew through a couple of circles. I don't know her, like Bessie or anything, but her twin sisters, her younger twin, she's got sisters who are a set of twins, how's that? And they were kind of friends at one point. They're not so much in the business anymore, but I really, I wasn't around them as much. I really wasn't around them.
Speaker: It was such a fast in, out. And the friends experience was also very fast and furious because I was taped prior to their actual taping date. Right there. Oh, here's a little something singing. Here's a little something. There's a little Peter Allen here. Let me see if this is gonna... Right there.
Speaker: Okay, this is, um, my romance. No, it's hands. Um, anyway, that's me singing.
Speaker: You warm up before you go on stage, don't you? My dad can sing. I don't have - Your dad can sing? Bro, my dad - I've never heard him. You heard where he just played right there? My dad gets ahold of that? My dad will absolutely 100 % sing that. I love that. But look who's in the audience this night. Look who's in the audience. Uh -oh. Who is it? Can't tell. Can't tell.
Speaker: I can't tell. Hold on, hold on. It is my darling Denise Duff from Subspecies. Okay. You have no clue who she is. Well, I'm gonna introduce you to her right now. This is me and Denise. 30 years ago we were in Romania doing Subspecies two and three.
Speaker: where she played a vampire. This is the one we were talking about earlier, Mark. Yes. There is six, six, six seasons. And you have to be able to see. There's my Denise. I love my Denise. Yeah, we say friends. And then we went back to Serbia. I think about two years now.
Speaker: I think it's two years now. Just before I went and did season three of After Forever. So yeah, that's it. That's all I got up for right now. Comment from the nonsensical network. It was such a dick. My mom loved days. I remember watching with her. Dr. Wesley was not a dick. As a matter of fact, you're talking shit about Dr. Wesley now. I don't know who that was, but I became a very loving father.
Speaker: Um, and then they, then because of the success of after forever, I think they got smart and they brought my character back and they had my character come out of the closet. Yeah. I was reading that. I was like, Oh, that that's freaking awesome. Life imitating art imitating life. It's the full circle moments that I'm, again, I'm, I'm very, very proud of. And, um,
Speaker: By the way, I love your, um, I just saw all the Friday, the 13th movies. That's all I actually, I actually, these are all figures. All these are all. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. I know the, uh, figure that's in the, um, Mark's frozen. Oh, there he is. I'm not frozen. I just had to move for a second. No, I love all this. I mean, I've got, I had these, these were made, they're, uh, three sculpt.
Speaker: all three done by a 3D printer. All these, these are what I started collecting first was these figures and then I just started collecting a whole shit ton more. Mark will tell you more than you know about Friday the 13th. No, I doubt that. I would not be surprised. I would not be surprised. And then of course, you know, I got rose blood here. Yeah. Well, that's the one I know most about because I only had
Speaker: very little to doing it. So I had time to actually read the whole script. And I thought I didn't know they could do that. I didn't know they could do that. You know, I make a fan movie and the fan films. Yeah, there's a lot of them, though. I love them. I watched quite a few Rose Blood, Vengeance, Never Walk Alone. This is a great thing that Peter did. I only know Peter having done it. But Peter was, of course, moved by this
Speaker: uh, series as a younger man. Yes. And he basically was arrested by it and he had the desire to move into more of it. So there's his healing, there's his, uh, working it out and figuring it out and doing something because he wanted to do it, not waiting for someone to say, you can do it, which that's the, the fact that he actually created this and was going to include myself and Laura and Terry. How can I not say yes?
Speaker: How could I not? When Peter first told us about this movie, I was like, OK, you know, it was just talk at first. And then it was like, I'm going to do it. And then he he said that Lara was on board. I was like, holy shit. I said, you know, that's fucking awesome.
Speaker: you know, flat out. That's how I said it. And then he he didn't tell us how to say that. That's fucking awesome. OK. And then then, you know, I knew Terry was involved. He never told me anything about you. I had to watch the movie and I was like great like that. And I was like, wow, I like I like the surprise element in it. It was like, you know, like when they did vengeance to an added Tommy into it.
Speaker: It was, you know, it was a brush of fresh air, you know, it, it helped it out. And I'm like, you know, uh, Roseblood, it, it helped me like, uh, part seven even more. I didn't like it to begin with because, you know, telekinesis, you know, I, I didn't think it belonged in the series, but okay. He's dead. Uh, he's back to life. Yes, I am. So shut up, Steven. And, uh,
Speaker: Had to. I had a fanboy moment. I must say. Watching all that and I was like, okay. But once I met Peter, Peter made me realize what it was like to be what it meant to him. And it changed my mind on it. Oh, how they put Jason in space. So what the hell? Wait, wait, wait. Now listen, this is nothing against Peter England.
Speaker: Is that Peter Anthony? No, no. Who plays Robert England? Robert England, sorry. I love the Freddy series. I love that. You know, Wes Craven was thinking that up when he was directing me in the sequel to Hills Have I's part two. But if there was one, yeah, the outer space when I didn't even watch. But when Freddy and Jason
Speaker: went against each other. That's when I kind of went, okay, is this jumping the shark? We never saw Laura say she was Carrie. We never saw her become the Carrie character, which I thought was smart. But I just thought, these are so recognizable. You're gonna have people. You're gonna have people
Speaker: yay and nay and yay and nay and it's gonna be what they want it to be anyway, but I just thought, I wanna be suspended in my belief that this is really happening over here and not something that by medias, what's it called? It's called the, you know, it's our pop culture that dictate, you know, Jason and Franklin. Right.
Speaker: And I feel like that was a little derived from our pop culture because I think if you, I don't know that you could have written it to a point where Freddie and Jason fight each other in a real life situation. Right, you are aware that it was a comic first. That's where they got it from.
Speaker: And that's the problem. I think that they, it was supposed to be, it was supposed to be, uh, Freddy verse, ask for our Freddy verse Jason verse Ash. That was originally what it was supposed to be. Or, uh, Ash from, uh, yes. Yes. From, uh, come on, come on, Brian. Night of the living. What? No, no. Come on. Steven will say it in the comments in just a second. If you don't say it forever. Forever.
Speaker: No. From what? No, it's Ash. Ash with the fucking chainsaw hand. Evil Dead. From Texas Chainsaw Messe? No. Evil Dead. Evil Dead. Evil Dead. I told you he was going to say before you knew it. I know you know what it is. I have never even seen Evil Dead. Neither have I. Do you know what an Necronomicon is? No. You ever heard of it? No. He said no. I've never heard of a Necronomicon.
Speaker: I love it. I deal with dead people differently. I write drama about them, not a horror mystery. Although I am writing. I was going to say, you're in a lot of horror movies. I have been named the king of Sasha from sequels. Yes. But I'm ready to turn that crown over. I'm actually writing a new
Speaker: I guess it's time travel called mystery. Sci -fi. I'm doing a sci -fi love story based on a real event with a writing partner. My character will go back in time.
Speaker: when there was a real train crash that took down a, I'm not gonna say more, a real train crash that you had to, stop the train from going. But it's the love that he finds the younger person and a younger man in the past comes to the future. Okay.
Speaker: Huh? He says he's writing it now. I will come to you for some producing money and we will get that thing. The only thing about it is it does take place around a circus. And, you know, it's a little more challenging to
Speaker: create circus situations these days, because you have to do digital with all that. Because you can't hurt the animals. So you can talk to the animals. Next question. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker: Kevin. Hang on. This one says Kevin is. Oh, please take that. Oh, my God. Sequels like I'm the champ. Glick is not the champ. He pretends he's a he's a paper champ. I don't do it. So so he's a really nice guy. We're going to leave it at that. He's very nice. Yeah, Glick. He's one. You know, he he's got he's got a few shows on our network and he's a great guy.
Speaker: We'll leave it. However, comma, when you dictate into your phone. Hi, Kevin. It's really great to talk to you. New line, new line. What's funny, what's funny, though, is the email I sent Kevin to begin with was A .I. After that, I stopped talking. I started talking myself.
Speaker: Did you think that you were coming on a professional show tonight? Fuck me. Haven't I been on your show before? No, this is the first time and I hope it's not the last. You are absolutely fantastic. We've been only on the air for about a year and a half now and we've had some great guys. I guess Peter told me about this.
Speaker: Peter probably did tell you because Peter's been on our show twice. I think I've seen Peter's show. Peter's been on our show a few times, quite a few times. I confuse myself with Peter sometimes. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You think you're that handsome? Peter. Oh, you don't like him because Peter's bald. Don't talk to me about my man Crust and Peter's man Crust with me.
Speaker: Come on, stop it right there. No, Peter's got that. He's got the best haircut in the biz. Because he's got the same one as yours, right? That's right. Peter is my sexy director man, friend. I love him. I love him. I think he's also very talented. And yes, Peter, I'm talking about you. But he's just he's just a loving,
Speaker: human being, and I think his love and his desire to create is beyond how physically handsome he is or all that stuff. And speaking of physicality, when it comes to him doing directing and acting and everything, he's got a movie in the works right now, and I know you know about this, it's laugh. And unfortunately, Peter has had an accident or has hurt himself.
Speaker: So the movie was gonna come out at the end of this year at 2024, right? He is the lead character in this movie. One of them, yeah. Or one of. And now we won't get this movie until 2025. Has he filmed any of it? He has filmed some of it because we already have previews, club scene previews. Well, you know, Peter, if you need a double,
Speaker: Hey, I know a guy. Do both of your knees work because one of his is out. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, don't be, don't, I'm not being mean. I'm trying to get these having some, um, some, uh, knee issues. I didn't know that was the cause. I knew they heard himself, but I didn't know it was that. So Peter get well soon.
Speaker: Yes, please. Please get well soon so we can get more movies and more stuff. More stuff. I'll be happy to come back anytime you guys want. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, I didn't mean to cut you off cutting me off. Okay. And there's one thing that I told Brian I'd wait and tell towards the end to ask you because the fact that I have everybody's
Speaker: he's a fan boy remember he's a fan boy i have daredevil just daredevil i just have just about everybody's uh signature on here oh i thought there was i was wondering if i sent this to you the jacket um if you would sign it for me no okay 20 bucks 20 bucks bro shut up ryan
Speaker: Of course, do me a yeah, yeah, we'll figure out how to get that done. Okay, we had, you know, you guys, like I said, like everybody that's been on this show is super humble. And we really appreciate it because I'm super humble that you guys came on our little podcast to talk about you guys.
Speaker: And that's what it's about. We just want to know about you and what you're doing and all that stuff. We had a couple of weeks ago, we had Richie Ramone on the show. And I'm a huge Ramones fan. It didn't happen overnight. You know, it was one of those things that took, you know, about a year.
Speaker: chemicals to make. I mean, no. Anyway, same question was if, if I sent you an album, would you sign it? He was like, absolutely send it. Yeah, well, you know, Mark still has to pay me but 20 bucks, bro. 20. 20. You are aware that all the other ones signed it for free.
Speaker: And so you could save money and send it all to me. Oh. Yeah, I still have a couple more that I have to get. Eventually, I'd like to get Lars on here. She has agreed to come on, but we just haven't figured out a date yet. She'll do it. So when she hands you up, she's great. That's OK. I'm sending her a copy of this one so she knows.
Speaker: I feel like, I feel like that's the thing. Like, Lara doesn't want to get roped into something. And then she's like, these two fucking guys, not a chance. You are aware that she's asking for your advice. She has. She has been on far worse. I yeah, I've seen some of the ones, but I mean, everybody has the control of, you know, if they didn't like the show, they can easily just opt out, you know, after a while. Yeah. Listen, bye.
Speaker: No, I, listen, guys, you are, you're not promoting, you're not derogatory in any way. You're not, I mean, I know what the title of the show is. I mean, for shit's sake, you know, you gotta say it. But I think had I ever since, and I say this, not just for you, it's for anybody. I think you were being,
Speaker: prejudice or racist or insanely uncouth. If this was not a fun way in, just have fun and then talk about stuff. I would have graciously thanked you and said, I'm not available.
Speaker: I see you as two very, very weak, sad people. No, no, I mean... We totally got to have Kevin on the show because he's going to boost our... No, listen. You guys are very fun. You don't understand how excited we get when a guest tells us yes.
Speaker: Mark absolutely has to change his underwear. Oh, no, actually, there's only been there's only been a couple that I, you know, I about, you know, I called Brian and said, hey, look, we got this one. We did this. We did that. And he was like, really? Who is that? I'm like, watch Friday the 13th. I was I. Yeah, Mark. He said he said who is that? But the next first thing you hear him say is I want to hold it.
Speaker: Wait, wait till he sees after forever. Then he's going to want to hold all of them. So my wife is going to kick me right in the I can't wait to meet your wife. I can't wait to meet you. She's she's a lovely lady. You know, here's a here's a crazy. Hold up. Wait, wait. Let's go back to your wife for a second. She's a lovely lady.
Speaker: Yes, you met my wife, you better shut up. She's not nice. You want both of us to get murdered tonight? Keep it up. Just Jordan. Anyway, we were talking about Peter Anthony earlier and making movies and stuff. And what's crazy is when we have guests like Kevin and guests like Beatrice and guests from all over the horror genre,
Speaker: When you tell me that we have these guests, I start having dreams. Do you want to know what last night's dream was? I just hope it wasn't wet. Listen, it was not, but seven strangers move into a house together. It's Jason. It's Freddie. It's Chucky.
Speaker: It's Art the Clown. I mean, come on, dude. Seven strangers move into a house, and then the hilarity ensues. Has this been done? I feel like it may have been done. I will tell you this. Years ago, I
Speaker: I, when I went to New York, when I moved to New York in 2007, I think I fell into producing and, um, producing theater, um, musicals and whatnot. And I was still performing. And then a friend of mine who I'd done a play with years and years and years ago wrote a show called Scary Musical. And I thought this was the cat's meow. And, um, you know, it had
Speaker: There was a guy named Jason. There was a guy named Freddie. There was a girl named Carrie. There was, you know, all the, but they were all in high school and it was, you know, there was a phone call. There was a murderer and it was done very well. I just couldn't get it. I couldn't get it, you know, up and running and doing.
Speaker: I would absolutely like to see a show done like that. It would rule. I think it would, because you get to see another side. And that's, I think, what a lot of people look forward to is like, here's another one that I had recently was, tell me about Jason before he started ax murdering people, before his mom became a psycho, demented, whatever. If you want to know, I can
Speaker: Link to the comics. Oh, it's okay. So what, why, why does Jake, so isn't it, didn't he drown while the counselors weren't watching while they were having sex and other stuff? Yes. And he, he was not, he was not, um, all mentally there. So, you know, that's, we call that, we call that challenged ADHD. I call that Brian.
Speaker: Um, no, but yeah, but I mean, it's just, I mean, that's what they've always picked it at is, is he was challenged. Yeah. My, my children get mommy for saying, uh, you know, certain words. So I, I'm learning how to change with, with the politically correct way is, um, socially challenged or, um,
Speaker: physically challenged or any of those. But it was his mother who was getting revenge. In the very first one, yes. God bless Betsy Palmer. She was wonderful in that.
Speaker: But there's got to be something before Bessie, right? I mean, where where's his and and that's Elias, Elias, Elias Jason go to Jason, go to school. Did he go to high school? Did he? No, no, he was he was dead before he got into high school, by the way. He was dead as a way to go to regular fucking school before fucking high school. OK, well, that's elementary school. I think I think it was elementary, but no, no more than that. Right. Now, if you go by the comics,
Speaker: Camila kills Elias if you go by the comics. But in other way, you can bring it back in any other way you want because of the series. Like in Vengeance, they brought Elias into that as Jason's father. And he was the one convincing Jason to do the killings. And it just depends on which way you go about it. And that's a fan film if you didn't know. I did not know.
Speaker: Yes, Jason Brooks, Jason Brooks also plays Jason in that. And I've learned something too, something I never knew about a fan film. I like the fan films, not all of them, but I like most of them because, you know. The best one we know, the best one we know is Rose.
Speaker: let's talk about real quick before i know we asked you for an hour and we're super happy that you did an hour with oh wait i'm done goodbye see you later uh uh broadway what have you done what works have you done uh on broadway a chorus line um i did um meet me in st louie i
Speaker: I did the Vegas show, the Vegas company of Hairspray, where I was, Courtney Collins. And one of my all time favorite experiences was standing by for Hugh Jackman and the Boy From Oz, the story about Peter Allen. Mark was talking about that one earlier and I said, I don't remember that one.
Speaker: When you go and look up his stuff, that one sticks out the most because that's the only thing that was underneath there for Broadway. Well, here's a very interesting thing about The Boy From Oz. Do either of you know who Peter Allen is?
Speaker: I know the name I chose. So Peter Allen died about 32 years ago. He was one of the first casualties of AIDS. He wrote songs like, oh, we just lost. No, he has to use the bathroom. Don't worry, you can keep going. Oh, well, I was gonna educate him. All right, so Mark, you and I are now hosting, co -hosting the show. Let's just, you know, when he comes back on, we're gonna ask him some questions. Oh, you're the cat? Is it your cat, real cat?
Speaker: this is a cat that this is our one of the two rescues that we have at the house that's a kitten yes they called it gray and they weren't supposed to call the damn cat a name because we were supposed to get rid of it well i don't think that's happening anymore no that's i i'm a i'm a big cat man so yeah i have too many cats as it is um i love my cat is scared of this uh street we we've moved recently oh look here um
Speaker: This is me in a chorus line. Where am I? I am at the other end. I am right here. Boom. There I am. Where's my finger? Right there. Boom. That's in chorus line.
Speaker: Boy from, Mark has a zoo. How many animals? I have a, right now I have 11 cats, three dogs, three ferrets, four, five. My daughter has like a bunch of guinea pigs. We used to have a hell of a lot more. Oh, I love that. Here I am on facts of life, which is FYI. But I forgot. I forgot about that one. The facts of life, the facts of life. Was it on the original series? You know, when they did it,
Speaker: Um, not, okay. Um, so here is a picture of this. Incredibly gifted, talented man. Mr. Hugh Jackman and myself there. He's very, you know, uh, my wife, my wife and daughter got me to watch, uh, the greatest showmen. He's in those, those damn songs stick in my head so much. Yeah. My wife will still play him in the car.
Speaker: And I'm like, damn it, we're gonna have to go home and watch that damn movie. So Peter Allen was a songwriter in the, oh, well, he's from Australia. He came over here. Judy Garland had discovered him and made him famous. And he wrote songs like, Don't cry out loud, just keep it inside. Melissa Manchester recorded that. Olivia Newton -John recorded
Speaker: I love you, I honestly love you. Oh, Brian, okay, here's some questions for you. We're talking shit here, Mark and I. And anyway, so that's, Peter Allen was always a part of my life. Peter Allen was always the background. He was always, his music is incredible. He wrote, he was one of the song, foursome that wrote, when you get caught between the moon and New York City,
Speaker: I know that one. Yeah. I can't hear you, Brian. You're muted. Brian. Nope. Sorry. Nope. What the fuck? You go away for a second and it screws up.
Speaker: I think we're done here, folks. This is the end of the show. I'm out. There you go. Oh, my God. Anyway. Yes, I know that song. I love that song. That's a great song. Peter Allen, the show The Boy From Oz is about Peter Allen being from Australia. And he was just an incredible entertainer. And I was cast as the standby to Mr. Hugh Jackman. He never missed a show, but he's quite a talented man. Quite a talented man.
Speaker: You missed this picture, but I'll send it to you. I'll show you right now. You, Jackman. So what was it like working with him? Was that? He was. You know, we stayed in touch and he's always been so supportive of everybody who's gone off and done their own thing or what they're working on. I wrote him an email.
Speaker: probably right after the pandemic. The first part of 2020 was, hey, okay, I'm gonna get some reading done. I can clear out the closet and I can get rid of some stuff and I can work on myself. That was my aim for the pandemic. And then of course, life happens, shit intrudes. And my collaborator died.
Speaker: He was diagnosed with cancer as well. And, you know, I had to deal with that. I had to watch that life imitating art situation happen. And I remember there was one moment where we had spoken, we had a, sorry, on Zoom during COVID, we had had an 18 year anniversary of the cast of The Boy From Oz.
Speaker: We all got on Zoom and we all said, hi, how it's going and what I'm doing and what you're doing. And Hugh was a huge fan of my series. He was very, very supportive of it. He watched it and he told everyone, you got it, you got it. Don't shortchange yourself, Mike. Go watch Kevin's series, it's right. And it's like, oh, thank you, Hugh, thank you. And then I brought him in, you know, saying how one night in one of my darkest
Speaker: times during COVID, because we just lost Michael. And I was sad. I was very depressed. And I thought, what would Hugh do? Because I used to watch him night after night on stage. And he would just turn on. His heart was open. His spirit was open. He was allowing people to enjoy and giving love and giving heart everything, everything he did. I don't think the guy knows the word no.
Speaker: And I remember thinking about that and just like you said, do I warm up going on stage anymore singing? No, I have no fear anymore. I kind of went through that and I thanked him for being there psychically or mentally or metaphysically because I can now think through and see what he did and how he treated the audience and people were in the street and the dorm, everything, everyone's the same to him. And that to me was,
Speaker: not only incredible talent, but his heart and his spirit is what even exudes more out of that. And that's why I think he's so extraordinarily gifted. And I think - 100 % of the time, if given the chance to work with him, you are 100 % on board. Oh man, absolutely. Yeah. I do the whole thing again. There's the Peter Allen song once before I go.
Speaker: And the lyric is, I do it all again. And I think, yeah, I never got to go on for him. He never missed a performance, but I do it. He was amazing. He was amazing. I might ask for more money this time. But, I mean. Hey, who wouldn't? I mean, knowing what you know now. I mean, if you had to do it all over again, you'd be like, hey, listen, I'm gonna, you're gonna have to pay me a little bit more. No, no, here's what I,
Speaker: The payment comes in the experience, honestly. And now knowing what I know, everything that I have ever done, every experience that I have ever experienced, every situation, every positive and non -positive experience has made me the person and being that I am today. And I'm grateful for that. Fantastic. I believe it. If you look at it, you know,
Speaker: We are who we are because of our choices and our experiences. And I'm also a firm believer that our thoughts and our feelings and our emotions and our words, what we're focusing on becomes a reality at all times. People say, oh, it's bullshit. It's bullshit. You're talking shit. No, no. We create our reality every step of the way. You can argue it. You can believe it. You don't have to. But until you understand it or until you experience that,
Speaker: Um, you know, we're, we're very responsible for it. So Kevin, Kevin, there's a lot of people that say, if I could go back, I would change this. I am one of those people that I'm a little bit different because I'm like, if I could go back and change anything, I wouldn't change. I had faults. I, I've done things that maybe I shouldn't have done. And those are the things I look at and go, which I wouldn't.
Speaker: Would I, okay, so, you know, do I want, would I have preferred Michael not die? You know, what could I, you know, is there anything I can change there? No, I didn't want him to get sick and die and leave. Nobody wants that. But that, that's that part of that world of what he experienced. I mean, I came into his life and he came into my life exactly the right time that we were supposed to have.
Speaker: met and crossed paths. I swear to God, I say this all the time. I was on the treadmill, getting off the treadmill at the gym. I heard someone say, are you Kevin Spiritus? I used to write for young days in our lives. And I said, great pickup line. No, I said, I said, I said, what's your name? You know, he says Michael Slatus. Oh my God, I remember the name on the script, but you know, they keep the writers and the actors separate on the soaps usually, because they don't want you getting any special treatment.
Speaker: And I say to this day, because I pitched him the show right then and there, I pitched him an idea and he said, call me. That's the pick up line. Yeah, right, right, right. No, you know what? I could have been on the moon that day. And I swear to God, I would have crossed that with Brian.
Speaker: Michael. How long did you guys, how long were you guys together? June 1st, 2014. It's almost 10 years. Okay. June 1st, 2014, we started creating After Forever. And then I said, hey, because it took us about six months to get the story right, the first season and
Speaker: And he was really pretty much the wordsmith. And then he'd send me the script and I'd read it and go, oh, I love it. Let's change this real quick. And then I said, here's some good news and some not good news. The not good news is I'm done with New York. I'm going to move back to LA. And this is 2015. So I moved back in 2015. I said, the good news is we're going to finish this series and we're going to finish writing it. We're going to get it made. And I'm going to do my damnedest.
Speaker: I'll raise that money, hell or high water, and we did. And, you know, I miss hearing his real voice on the phone. Hey buddy, how are you? You know, but he's here, he's here, and he's here. And I also think that creatively he gave me incredible, incredible gifts. He taught me how to write. He really taught me how to write. Show me the way. Are there things in my life that I would have changed in my world?
Speaker: Um, yeah, I would have been kinder to some of the situations. Um, I wish I would have learned, I wish I would have experienced something now. So I knew how to, uh, speak to it back then. Cause there's been breakups or there's been, um, you know, lost where I'm like, I wish I knew how to speak to that person the way I know how to do it now.
Speaker: because it would have, you know. Instead of having such a bad, um, a bad breakup, a bad leaving a bad taste in your mouth or their mouth or whatever. Yeah. I think it's going to be friends in the long run. Well, it finally, it finally became friends. It finally became friends. But I have a relationship in my life that is probably the love of my life. And I, and, um,
Speaker: that although I was in LA and he was living in New York, there were things that we were not ready for with each other in our lives. And that to me was, okay, we gotta stop this right here. I broke up with him four times, you know? But then, and then when I went back, he had not, he was now not gonna play that. And I don't blame him, but I wish I would have known how to communicate
Speaker: better in that format and in that situation to be able to work it out then and there versus now I'm just gonna work it out over here so it doesn't happen again elsewhere. Yeah, you learn from your shit, man. Yeah. And that's why we speak in shit. I didn't want to delve into was that a little tiff? Was it something small? I mean, there's, there's, there's, listen, people fit.
Speaker: or they don't fit, or people make a commitment and they work through it, or they're in the same city, or whatever the case is. This took us both down a spiritual path that we both needed to re -familiarize ourselves with. And to be quite honest, I feel closer to this person now, and I'm gonna say we probably feel closer. He's got another relationship going on. I want him to have that. I want him to have that love. I want him to have that experience. Everyone's taken away from him.
Speaker: I don't ever want to say we're ever getting back. That's not what it's about. The relationship that I know that didn't work was partly my choices, partly my thoughts, partly my bullshit stuff here, my noise, and whatever he had going on. That's the type of thing I don't regret
Speaker: But if I could rework it, those are the things I wish I would have known how to handle better as a spiritual adult, a spiritual minded adult. You know, I agree with him. I mean, there's some relationships that you can begin that, you know, it's like, okay, this doesn't work, but you're better off as friends than you are anything else.
Speaker: Oh, and in my situation, I mean, I've been married to my wife for ever seven, 70 years. Now I'm kidding. Uh, 26 years, 20 going on 27. Um, but you know,
Speaker: I never looked back at what if, if, if I could have done this, what this had happened or whatever, because it's weird that our lives have, have met the way that they did the intersections that have crossed because everything in our lives has been nothing, but it has all come to a crossroads. Everything has been worked in numbers, you know, her sister and her four years and six months to the day, my daughter in
Speaker: my youngest daughter, four years and six months to the day, her birthday, my birthday, the same day, two years apart. Our lives have just been an absolute numbers game. And I don't know if anybody else has seen that or anything. It's a color game or anything like that. And they're in their lives and their relationships or anything like that. I never looked at it like that, except for my daughter, you know,
Speaker: born nine years to the date. My father died. Yes. Yes. And I purposely did that. They told me, they asked us, when do you want to induce? You want to get induced now or do you want to wait until tomorrow? I looked at my wife and smiled. She says tomorrow. So, you know, but, but, okay. So that's an interesting choice. You'll never forget. You'll, you know, you're, you're honoring your dad.
Speaker: I wanted I wanted something good for that day instead of yes, yes So here's the other thing too. I believe this and this is what My ex and other exes tonight We come into each other's lives and I'm gonna say this every relationship Our relationship today we come into each other's lives to teach something to each other There's no I think there's never a single
Speaker: view of it. It takes two. You can be in the elevator and smile at someone. That moment changes that person's life. They needed that or you needed that or you had to, you know, you could also give them the bird. And there's a reason for it though. I mean, I think there's an invisible force moving through and around and always in everything. You can call it what you can.
Speaker: You can call it God, you can call it science, you can call it mayor, you can call it dude, I don't care. I believe we come from the same space and we come from this source and this source, presidential candidates or not, we come from the same space and we need to honor that. That's what we're here for. Since we're talking about certain things, we have a question from Blake.
Speaker: What is it like being able to share that memory forever? Don't do it. Don't do it. It's a gift, man. It's a gift. It's a gift. So season three, it's really about my character, Brian Stone, coming to terms with the loss and putting grief in
Speaker: the proper perspective. So my character can move on with his life. And season two, well, you know, season one, spoiler alert, my husband is dead. Season two, I'm dating someone in season two and he drops me because he feels that I haven't gotten my loss and I'm still married at a certain level and he's not in the three ways.
Speaker: So that being said, the thing that I love about the Emmys and that mix of that question there is in 2019, when Michael and I walked up on stage and we had made history by becoming the first LGBTQ themed drama to ever win five Emmys across any platform. So that was like, we just made history. Wow.
Speaker: And Michael, who had already been diagnosed and had already been dealing with some of his issues due to the chemo and whatnot, made it to the Emmys. And, you know, he said the last thing. He said, we made a show about loss and we did it with as much pathos and humor as we could. And there is life after grief. And you can still move on.
Speaker: loving the person you lost and still continue to have a life. That's what he said. That is the final line that we give to the therapist. And I gave it, I, he was no longer alive at this moment, but I said, you know, we got to use that line. So I gave it to the therapist and it's a beautiful line. And that's the thing is that through Michael's work, I'm sorry that he, he paid that price, but I get to,
Speaker: You still get to carry it on. You know, grief ends in clothes. I mean, Ryan, I'm sure with your mom being gone, you still, there's moments where you're triggered and I'm sure it's like, wow, that's a web mobile, you know? And I'm so sorry for any of that because we all deal with it, but it becomes part of you. It's a new you. It's a new expansive side of you. Whether you know it or not, you now know how to do it. And you'll be able to help the next person.
Speaker: after you watch after forever. I got to now, dude. Damn it. Listen, watch a bunch of stuff. And then like, the first season's an hour and a half. The second season's an hour and a half. And then third season, which I'm praying is going to land just right in time coming up in June. Uh, you know, I'm just going to tell you right now, if I cry,
Speaker: I'm not gonna tell anybody. I'm not, I'm not. His wife will tell me. You know what? I'm gonna cry, aren't I? Real men eat quiche and they also cry.
Speaker: Lick from the nonsensical network said that he would absolutely love to have you, uh, help on a Monday night show for men's mental health. Um, I promise you that show, um, they will open you up. Uh, they open up to the world. Uh,
Speaker: one of the co -host is a former military and has been through a significant trauma. And I could absolutely, here's the thing, you laugh and joke and that's the thing. Like we get to laugh and joke with one another and we're going to do that. And then there is, but there is a, there is a shadow of pain there. Um, Ron, our laughter covers most of our pain. Our, our, our,
Speaker: Our neediness covers our pain. Our ability to please somebody is a covering. I'm not wronging anybody. I'm just as guilty of all this stuff. It would be my honor to be part of the show.
Speaker: That's awesome. Uh, we will, we will make sure, we will make sure that Chris gets in contact with you. Uh, yes, Connor is an amazing soul. Connor is the person I'm talking about, uh, prior army and, uh, air force veteran. So next, next week we're going to do a two part, uh, military show. It starts off on our show and it'll end on men caring for men. Yes. So our show, we get to have all the fun and then men caring for men.
Speaker: Bring the Kleenex. Listen, I gotta tell you, you two straight as an arrow, guys. My Angelo has a quote. We are more alive, my friend, than we are unalived. And it has nothing to do with straight, gay, bi, trans, anything. It has nothing to do with that. Our hearts are our hearts. We experience, you know, you get burnt, you say ow, you know.
Speaker: You get flowers, you go, oh, thank you. Well, I say thank you. And I don't remember receiving them yet, Brian and Mark, so. We're going to need an address. Mark's got to send a thing, so I got the flowers. Yeah, I was about to say Brian takes the flowers. Kevin, you have been absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much for being a part of our little show. We ask you for an hour, you've been
Speaker: more than generous and given us more than an hour. You've given us an hour and a half of your time. And I know that time is priceless. And if you want to stay, you're more welcome. Yes. Hey, Brian, what's the name of the series? That is after forever that I'm going to watch now with my wife, who is going to make me. I'm telling you, thank you. I hope Kevin's going to make me cry in the thing. And I'm I'm not going to tell you ever. I'm going to tell you this right now.
Speaker: After the first seven minutes, you'll be hooked. You can't get away. And you guys have, you've, you've, you know, I know I've given you an hour and a half. I will bill you, but the thing that's so great is there's angels now all around. I, you've, you've kept me,
Speaker: happy talking. So I mean, why not talk? I'll give you two hours if we continue talking. And that's up to you. Well, listen, I, I got to work, I got to work tomorrow. But at the end of the day, you get to go tomorrow and say, look, this is who I got to talk with. That's right. And that's all he does at work. The hour and a half. Who knew? I'm looking at the timer now. Everyone out there. Thank you for having us on here. And I really appreciate
Speaker: So, um, so real quick, uh, the, the, the, the gray, are we fitting in good with the gray or do you? Yeah, exactly. I love the hair. Like I like the gray. I wasn't worried about the gray. It was so long. It's so long. And I was just like, I felt like Mobley or, or, um, I actually grandpa monster is what I started to be like.
Speaker: I dig the gray, but when Mark showed the intro video, and I was like, oh, damn, I know who that is now. I remember from you playing on Days of Our Lives, and that's when I was like, but I still dig the gray. Did you do any research on this? I got my answer.
Speaker: Here? Me or? No, no, no, he's talking to me. I would say this. I like to call it silver. Silver fox. Silver anything. Gray tends to make it sound like, oh, he is old. No, no, I got some. But my kids have been pointing it out all over the place. So dad, you know, they're there, they're there. That's why Brian went bald. He didn't want people to show it. It's all good. It's all good.
Speaker: Oh, sexy bow. Yeah. I look like I look like Jason. Yeah, he's younger when he actually look like Jason was better looking. Sorry.
Speaker: You look like, I look like Grandpa from the Munsters and you look like Uncle Fester. Uncle Fester, you son of a bitch. I had to use the Adams family and the Munsters. If I shave this and then not wear a hat, it's game over. Everybody's gonna be like, Uncle Fester?
Speaker: Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to show you a picture and now you're really going to laugh because this, I just said this to a friend. We were laughing and, um, it's just so, this is terrible. I know. I'm just believing in Uncle Fester. That's all. I mean, I'm, um, grandpa. Yeah, it's too much because of the, because of the bat wing ears. No, because otherwise I look like the Arthur. Oh, get them. Oh, damn.
Speaker: Oh my god. Oh my goodness. Ma. Ma. Let's get some. Yeah, yesterday, yesterday, when he called me and I said, uh, you know, he was telling me that his show, he wasn't sure when his show was going to drop. If you want it, if we still wanted to do this, I was like, yeah. And then he goes, is this video or is it audio? I said video. He goes, okay, I'll make sure I'm, you know, good and ready for it.
Speaker: So real quick before we let you go. Yes. I know you have stuff coming up and I know that you're going to continue to promote what you're doing as well as other people. Where can our fans, where can our viewers, our listeners, where can they find you and what do you want them to watch out for? Well, KevinSpiritus .com. KevinSpiritus is on Instagram. KevinSpiritus is on Facebook.
Speaker: Um, I have a fan page on facebook. I also have a personal page one of those too full. So I don't know You have a check mark next to your name on facebook Do you have the blue check mark next to your name? I should get one. I I haven't applied. I mean You can pay for it and get it now you can pay for it and get it all now Oh, yeah, i'll do something with it. But um, uh after forever the series .com after af
Speaker: the series is on crime that might be x and that twitter and instagram is after forever the series it's like that's um and after forever uh season three um and i don't know what the technical reason happened or how it happened but it was supposed to be this last month now it's aiming toward june early in june maybe but i don't know i don't want to say because now
Speaker: I'm, I'm worried that it's not going to be the exact date. So it's coming. It's coming June, season three coming soon, coming soon. Maybe they'll promote it more because it's in June. I, I just want it up. I just want it up. It's, um, it's, it's really the best of all three seasons. Maybe they'll watch our show and say, Hey, we got to get this show out real quick. I'm hoping I hope so. Let's go.
Speaker: Kevin, thank you so much for your time. You have actually absolutely been fantastic. If there is anything ever that you want to talk about with us, please reach out to us and let us know. Yeah, you have my phone number. I've got your number. I got Brian's number. Let's go. I got the bank account. It's three. Mine's three. You guys have been great. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker: Thank you very much. And Men's Mental Health Monday, the nonsensical network, I'm sure Glick will reach out to you. If it's okay, I'll give you a phone number. If you're okay with that. Absolutely. And I'll have a haircut by then. Okay. Nope. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Wait till you see Glick and then you'll be like, yeah, I'm not cutting my hair.
Speaker: Is he got a braid? You got a long ponytail? He's got, he wears it up in a, he's got the man bun. Okay. And then he's got the, he's got the beard and he's got the, he's got the gray right there. Silver. Silver. Whatever. Silver. Silver. Cocaine white stripes. Whatever. Hi -ho Silver. Away. Thank you Kevin. Thank you very much.
Speaker: Holy cow, man. That was a really, really cool. Dude, I love Kevin. I fucking love that guy already. Yeah, this is the show. We didn't have to talk about Friday the 13th. We could have been. I told you I was on. And all my children and musicals, I'm in. I told you once when I got him, I said I only wanted to touch a little bit on Friday the 13th. And I told you we had it all mapped out on what we wanted to talk about. And he told us a little bit more.
Speaker: He's in the green room. I don't want to leave him waiting. Uh, I'm going to wrap up our show. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for watching us here at talking shit. Brian, hold on. Time out. Mark's going to cut me off. I always do. Are you going to tell people?
Speaker: I don't, I don't, I don't know. I want to tell people. All right. No, no, no, no. We have a potential guest coming in and we're going to do a Tuesday live show. Tuesday night. It'll be right after Jeff's garage. So tune in for a special guest and hopefully you guys will get to see talking shit with Al Snow.
Speaker: But we weren't going to say his name. Oh, I didn't say his name. Hurry up. Stop the show. Roll that beautiful beam footage, will you, Mark? Everybody, we're out of here. Good night. Have a good night.
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