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Speaker: Hi, Anna Dalia.
Speaker: Anna Karim.
Speaker: And welcome to the podcast.
Speaker: Been so before three years.
Speaker: Excuse me.
Speaker: Did you just say let's talk about the husband?
Speaker: Hey.
Speaker: Hello.
Speaker: How are you?
Speaker: I'm good.
Speaker: I'm excited about today's episode.
Speaker: Hi, people.
Speaker: Hello.
Speaker: And then our topics are good.
Speaker: Good, good, good.
Speaker: What's up?
Speaker: Should we start with our one and only...
Speaker: Muslim representation of the real housewives.
Speaker: Apparently, Jen Shah is observing Ramadan in prison.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: So for those who don't know, Jen Shah
Speaker: I think you should know.
Speaker: But she is the star of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Speaker: I wouldn't Muslim representations for a show, I think.
Speaker: It's not the only, as far as I know.
Speaker: I think there was a Turkish one.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: On New Jersey.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: I never watched New Jersey.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But she's a solid.
Speaker: She's on the show.
Speaker: Sharif.
Speaker: Sharif.
Speaker: Coach Sharif.
Speaker: Coach Sharif.
Speaker: And then she frauded other people.
Speaker: Not so Muslim there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Or I don't know actually.
Speaker: Who knows?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: There's no religion when it comes to fraud I guess.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And so when you're, you know, when you're talking about people, you're being a sinner and vulnerable, and you take away all their savings?
Speaker: No, because of that, I'm a little bit.
Speaker: Because of that, I think the situation, when I was the first one, I felt like I was a victim, and then when she like pleaded guilty and got out, and said, I did this, I was, I felt backstabbed.
Speaker: No, because she was trying to blame her assistants too.
Speaker: but that didn't really hold up she was feeding a banana all the time so weird but she's in prison yeah and she's observing Ramadan she's fasting she unlike Martha Stewart who said that prison food was fine she hates prison food she's skipping all her meals what's that
Speaker: and they wanted to produce a play.
Speaker: Like a real housewives inspired play.
Speaker: With the prisoners.
Speaker: With the inmates.
Speaker: And wasn't she also helping them learn?
Speaker: Yes, because a lot of the inmates can't read and write.
Speaker: Jen took it as a project.
Speaker: to teach them how to read and write so, to help them with them in play, or script and that's it.
Speaker: No, she grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: She grew.
Speaker: But I got to get people who would start in life.
Speaker: Very.
Speaker: I got to get.
Speaker: But I got to get another question.
Speaker: I would watch her, really.
Speaker: I'm all for new beginnings.
Speaker: Genja has come back.
Speaker: I wonder if Heather visits her in prison.
Speaker: Heather Gay?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm feeling like pizza.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, after she punched her in the face.
Speaker: She did not punch her in the face.
Speaker: We need to talk about that one time.
Speaker: It's not okay to joke about assault and pretend that someone hits you, but then not want to...
Speaker: I think the producer probably told her that she was going to get more screen time if she comes up with some kind of story.
Speaker: And she did.
Speaker: And she did.
Speaker: And it worked.
Speaker: And it worked.
Speaker: And it was the I.N.E.
Speaker: I think that's how she.
Speaker: Anyway, I hope they filmed.
Speaker: The Real Housewives inspired a show that Jen produces and we got to watch it.
Speaker: It's a play.
Speaker: It's a play.
Speaker: I don't think they're allowed to film inside prison.
Speaker: I think it's a play for... For the prisoners.
Speaker: Somewhere in Asia where they were dancing and doing flash mob in prison mob.
Speaker: Clash prison laws, whatever.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And they were filming it.
Speaker: Yes, they used to be very popular in the... I guess family are much more strict with their prisoners.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Speaking of... Of prison.
Speaker: Of prison and crime and...
Speaker: Can we talk about, speaking of real housewives, can we talk about Kathy Hilton's PhD?
Speaker: I couldn't believe that today when I started on Instagram, Kathy Hilton walking down the graduation aisle to receive her honorary PhDs.
Speaker: And I feel like, I feel bad for academics, like for spending that much time studying and doing research and doing like a lot of writing papers and getting a good supervisor.
Speaker: Whatever about honorary or not honorary.
Speaker: And I'm not belittling what she does.
Speaker: I think she's a great, like,
Speaker: person, she's probably the great person.
Speaker: I will support Cathy Hilton against Lisa Renner.
Speaker: And that's the extent of it.
Speaker: Oh, against Kyle.
Speaker: I'm not saying academics are better than Cathy Hilton.
Speaker: I'm just saying it's a different field.
Speaker: And for academics to show this kind of like
Speaker: appreciation for her career, I feel like it's kind of dismissive to what academics do.
Speaker: If she was getting an award for being on TV or like a social media persona, I would be like very happy.
Speaker: But she's dismissive for people who spend all her life in academia.
Speaker: I'm thinking maybe she made a huge donation to this academy.
Speaker: Usually donations would be rewarded with names on
Speaker: Halls, any library must have, the Cathy Hilton Library.
Speaker: Which would be wonderful.
Speaker: I would go to the Cathy Hilton Library.
Speaker: Actually, what would fit?
Speaker: With Kathy.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: We don't know.
Speaker: A Kathy Hilton pool.
Speaker: I think that would be cute.
Speaker: Outdoor.
Speaker: She likes to sleep.
Speaker: Or has weird sleeping hours.
Speaker: Actually, she likes Red Bull and chips.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So maybe like Kathy Hilton vending machines.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: That is.
Speaker: And only chips and Red Bull.
Speaker: Perfect.
Speaker: but gourmet chips, it's gourmet.
Speaker: And Paris left.
Speaker: Paris left, did you say Paris?
Speaker: You're listening to the podcast.
Speaker: Like Cristiano Ronaldo, he's going to be with Yassimina Azza.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: He's with Yassimina Azza, right?
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: I mean, Cathy Hilton kind of follows your account.
Speaker: It's not so far-fetched.
Speaker: I mean, she follows it without actually following it.
Speaker: She likes...
Speaker: Hi, Kathy.
Speaker: Hi, Kathy.
Speaker: Shout out to you.
Speaker: Actually, I would have loved if Lisa Vanderpump had commented on my dog.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: That would be amazing.
Speaker: In another life.
Speaker: Can we talk about this really disgusting, cringy... Should we?
Speaker: I was talking about this topic in a while, I went to the people and said, did you hear about the husband?
Speaker: With Dalai Lama?
Speaker: Dalai Lama.
Speaker: The Lama?
Speaker: My father was like, no, this was fresh or the topic.
Speaker: I told him, oh, there was an event, he was talking to students, they're engaged, and then there was a student who said, can I come to you?
Speaker: Everything's fine.
Speaker: And then, but then, okay.
Speaker: Easy, peace.
Speaker: Did he say that?
Speaker: No, please.
Speaker: Suck my tongue.
Speaker: Can you?
Speaker: Did he say that?
Speaker: Yeah, he did say that.
Speaker: He said that?
Speaker: He said that.
Speaker: So weird.
Speaker: Is this like a tradition between like... I mean... No, no, no.
Speaker: I'm not going to go there.
Speaker: Everyone is shocked.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It's weird.
Speaker: It's weird.
Speaker: It's weird.
Speaker: It's weird.
Speaker: It's child abuse, and it's problematic on a level.
Speaker: But I feel like it's a big year and it's a bad thing.
Speaker: I don't feel like anyone is trying to abuse a child, even if this is child abuse.
Speaker: I feel like it's not a way to talk about it.
Speaker: I feel like it's something that they practice usually with children.
Speaker: Something...
Speaker: Like a religious figure's tongue.
Speaker: Or with the Dalai Lama.
Speaker: No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker: The only, I've seen people from the region talk about it, and they say there is a tradition in staking out your tongue
Speaker: because it has a religious connotation about it shows that you're free from influence of demons.
Speaker: I don't know how to say it so much because I didn't say it.
Speaker: But it was like that.
Speaker: But there is no sucking involved in that tradition.
Speaker: But when you meet strangers, you can see your voice.
Speaker: You will suck my tongue.
Speaker: And it touches your tongue.
Speaker: I mean, he made a huge, apparently, like, apology after the incident, as he should, tawar.
Speaker: He did not.
Speaker: This incident was in February.
Speaker: He did not apologize after the incident.
Speaker: He apologized when it came out publicly.
Speaker: And the first apology that I saw, I haven't seen a bigger apology, so maybe I missed something.
Speaker: But the first apology was him just saying, I did not apologize after the incident.
Speaker: I agree.
Speaker: But it was a weird, bizarre headline to read.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, it seems like religious figures and men don't go hand in hand.
Speaker: If you think about it, mostly like the gayla that is in the Catholic Church, whether it's Islam, Muslim, and Buddhism, obviously.
Speaker: And even in the
Speaker: But anyway, they can't get their shit together.
Speaker: So I think maybe only women should be religious figures.
Speaker: We've never seen nuns do problematic shit.
Speaker: I'm sure there will be also women who do problematic things together.
Speaker: And I have heard of stories like this.
Speaker: Have you?
Speaker: Less so in religious context.
Speaker: Are in more power.
Speaker: Are in...
Speaker: more power too.
Speaker: Oh, and it's more man, you see more in religious contexts, you don't, they're not as, you know, there are nuns, but there are nuns, this dominating figure,
Speaker: With women.
Speaker: Popette.
Speaker: Like po-ette for me.
Speaker: Like bachelor, bachelorette.
Speaker: But I do think, I mean, in general, men do commit... Worst crimes.
Speaker: Yeah, in general.
Speaker: And especially sexual violence, I think.
Speaker: I don't know the exact statistics.
Speaker: I didn't know what to talk about.
Speaker: But definitely men are more problematic here.
Speaker: Bas, think about your lives, men.
Speaker: Think about your choices.
Speaker: Speaking of problematic men, can we speak about Saad El-Mijorad's incident?
Speaker: We've been meaning to speak about this in the past few episodes and we keep forgetting because...
Speaker: He's forgotten.
Speaker: I didn't know he didn't say.
Speaker: He still managed to get Elisa to do a duet with him.
Speaker: And I was in shock because Elisa usually has very like...
Speaker: I feel like she's a strong woman.
Speaker: I feel she's empowering to a lot of women, a lot of people.
Speaker: I really decided to do it with her after all the allegations she had.
Speaker: She said, I support him fully.
Speaker: Why?
Speaker: You've had such a good
Speaker: career, you've made beautiful music.
Speaker: Why are you tainting yourself with this kind of person?
Speaker: I wasn't, when I became aware of, I think was at a time, I think for our, I became aware of the issue.
Speaker: He has a lot of support.
Speaker: He does.
Speaker: And I wondered also if this was partly because the woman was foreign.
Speaker: And I mean...
Speaker: They are also a very good person on one hand and on the other hand the North African French colonizing experience on to... They are always the Arabian people and they don't have a language I think I was going to be there
Speaker: But I don't know.
Speaker: I think that... I think Adam and I are very close to someone who is very much against what happened and sees it as very problematic and wrong and criminal.
Speaker: But I don't know if he's talking about it.
Speaker: This is the whole dilemma with separating the art from the artist.
Speaker: It's a big issue.
Speaker: What do you think?
Speaker: I've been having this conversation a lot lately about this separation.
Speaker: And I feel... I'm a good person to talk about what I'm doing in the situation of women.
Speaker: So I'm a good person to talk about it.
Speaker: I'm a good person to talk about it.
Speaker: It's easy for me.
Speaker: I can't stop thinking about what happened.
Speaker: I cannot separate the art from the artist in this case.
Speaker: I cannot consume this art.
Speaker: So when it's challenging for you to get rid of the image that the artist is in the same way, you feel like... So I guess when the problem is not hitting you hard, it's not... Yeah.
Speaker: If it's not, maybe... And on the other hand, it's monetary gain, right?
Speaker: If me listening to his songs...
Speaker: would give him more clicks, would give him more money, would give him more that.
Speaker: Then, even if I know I separate while in the art experience, I can feel like... I don't know if this person is... I don't know if the film is... I don't know if the film is... I'm doing streaming.
Speaker: If someone is... His movies are reverted as well.
Speaker: I feel like I need to... When it comes to...
Speaker: But I find it a bit challenging.
Speaker: Not challenging to believe that he's a horrible person, challenging to force myself not to listen to the person's music or watch his art.
Speaker: But I believe that we shouldn't.
Speaker: I understand.
Speaker: But I'm trying lately also to be more accepting of people who
Speaker: see it not as an, see it as not necessary to separate.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: I guess, but that, that means that you're trying to co-exist with people that don't have the same politics as you, which I guess is ideal.
Speaker: We have to do, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, because we have to co-exist in life even if people are different in the politics of their lives.
Speaker: I think this is what we aim to reach.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Because we all have the problems in the society, so we have to make sure that people
Speaker: I don't know how to understand the other person or to... In contrast, for example, the political or religion or the mule or whatever, I feel that these are the real problems.
Speaker: True.
Speaker: When we get to a place where we can accept and coexist as ideal.
Speaker: Speaking of accepting and coexisting.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Should we talk about the new Cleopatra documentary that's making a wave in Egyptian social media?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I don't know about the topic.
Speaker: To give you a brief idea about this Cleopatra film.
Speaker: So there's a new Netflix production.
Speaker: By Jada Pickett-Smith.
Speaker: And is Cleopatra being portrayed as a black woman in the documentary?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I don't see any problems.
Speaker: I see that Theopatra is more like a pop figure.
Speaker: She's an icon.
Speaker: For any culture to want to claim it as theirs, I feel like, okay.
Speaker: We live in the middle of the... We shouldn't feel so insecure about someone wanting to claim something as theirs.
Speaker: I understand that in the sense of a fiction movie or like a tribute movie for him.
Speaker: This is a documentary, right?
Speaker: But I think in the documentary, they're having conversations about it.
Speaker: They're not claiming anything.
Speaker: They're not saying like, we know that she's black.
Speaker: I think they're interviewing people and everyone is saying what they thought, their thoughts.
Speaker: I love Cleopatra.
Speaker: I idealized her.
Speaker: I believe that she's black like me.
Speaker: I think it's more endearing than problematic.
Speaker: I don't understand the people in the world.
Speaker: I didn't even know Elizabeth Taylor did Cleopatra.
Speaker: Blacks probably said, I'm not sure if she was a child.
Speaker: So if they got someone white to play Cleopatra, the situation was completely different.
Speaker: I didn't know if she was black.
Speaker: But Egypt is not black.
Speaker: But she agreed.
Speaker: She agreed.
Speaker: People are arguing this and they don't understand that it's a racist narrative and they don't see it.
Speaker: They're like, historically she wasn't white either.
Speaker: Historically she was not Korean either.
Speaker: Historically she was ugly.
Speaker: Historically she was ugly.
Speaker: it's it's the same and i wasn't aware i was aware that we had issues with racism here in the country obviously but i wasn't aware of of how allergic everyone is to it almost yeah and the concert and we used to be kings in africa exactly are you serious
Speaker: I think it comes also from like this ego that people have about being this nationalistic ego.
Speaker: and of claiming a piece of land, which also doesn't make sense at all.
Speaker: We're going to be in that narrative.
Speaker: At least like we, at some point we were a superpower of the world.
Speaker: People were living here from everywhere.
Speaker: I think Egypt was the center of the continent at some point.
Speaker: And it was like the America of the ancient civilization.
Speaker: There was a mix of Africans, white people, brown people, Asians.
Speaker: It was the cosmopolitan place to be.
Speaker: When Africans that were part of a slavery trade are saying that they used to be kings and queens in Africa, we should be happy that they feel that
Speaker: that this land also was part of their glory days and they had to suffer and be slaves or their ancestors, suffer them, be slaves or white people in these other continents.
Speaker: I got really like deranged.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: Baby, go out and hinge as you want to see.
Speaker: I get where they're coming from and
Speaker: I'm very happy for them.
Speaker: I'm too.
Speaker: I like Jennifer Coolidge.
Speaker: I feel like she didn't have any issues from the time.
Speaker: And I feel like White Lotus changed her life.
Speaker: Her neighbors are asking her to come to their barbecues now.
Speaker: She's a wonderful actress.
Speaker: She's a lovely person.
Speaker: I feel like she really deserves the best.
Speaker: And I'm all for this celebration of...
Speaker: Older?
Speaker: Older women?
Speaker: Not saying she's old.
Speaker: I'm loving this trend that we... At any age can have a prime.
Speaker: Peak and peak again.
Speaker: Like Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker: And Michelle?
Speaker: Michelle Yu, she's also great.
Speaker: I'm happy.
Speaker: I'm happy for them.
Speaker: I'm happy for Bella.
Speaker: I think she...
Speaker: She gets a lot of backlash on supporting Palestine.
Speaker: It's really nice to see her recognized as well.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: I agree.
Speaker: Mabruk.
Speaker: Mabruk, Bella.
Speaker: Shout out to Bella.
Speaker: Mabruk, yeah, Bells.
Speaker: Hells, Bells.
Speaker: Oh, sad news, Bardo, for some people.
Speaker: Taylor Swift.
Speaker: And Joe Alwyn broke up.
Speaker: can kind of a very sad day for Swifties they've been together for six years they're not very public about their relationships relationship uh well apparently she hinted at the breakup by changing the setlist for her album that was created while they were in love I'm not a big Swiftie to be honest I respect her
Speaker: I respect her work.
Speaker: I'm not drawn to her art.
Speaker: I do think she's, by respect her work ethic, basically.
Speaker: Also how she engaged she is with her fans.
Speaker: I understand.
Speaker: Let's come back to... I think we covered... Yeah, I just want to say... How the Louis Vuitton... We don't have to talk about it.
Speaker: Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker: That the Louis Vuitton store was stormed in Paris because of the protests.
Speaker: He currently protests in France, and they're trying to push the retirement age from 62 to 65, I think.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: They did it in a very undemocratic way.
Speaker: They decided to do this and decided to do the protest.
Speaker: Louis Vuitton is part of the group that owns also Diog and Bulgari.
Speaker: No, Chanel I think it's a house on its own.
Speaker: Oh, okay.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think it's the biggest company in Europe and the owner is the richest man in the world.
Speaker: And they were rising a lot in the stocks.
Speaker: People targeted actually.
Speaker: Yeah, specifically.
Speaker: So they targeted the headquarter or the place?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: But anyway, regardless, I could just... I think the place is... The headquarters.
Speaker: The headquarters.
Speaker: Actually, from 62 to 64, it's only two years.
Speaker: I mean, yeah.
Speaker: But the French people are very determined about their rights and freedoms.
Speaker: Yeah, eat the rich.
Speaker: I'm on board with the people, obviously.
Speaker: You know, his net worth is $211 billion.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: He's not the one pushing for this bill.
Speaker: It's...
Speaker: I guess they're all interconnected somehow
Speaker: I'm starting to target him.
Speaker: So I guess because he's like the most, the richest person, so he's part of the system, I guess.
Speaker: I would recommend a show that I watch on Netflix.
Speaker: There's one called Wellmania.
Speaker: I highly recommend it.
Speaker: It's an Australian comedy.
Speaker: I'm going to highly recommend for people to watch it.
Speaker: And...
Speaker: Yeah, it's hilarious.
Speaker: It's about this woman who's a journalist.
Speaker: She writes about food and culture.
Speaker: It's Australian.
Speaker: She's trying to get her life together, but she's all over the place.
Speaker: And her brother is getting married.
Speaker: And her relationship is with her husband and her best friend.
Speaker: So the show is really nice.
Speaker: And another show called Beef.
Speaker: I've heard about Beef.
Speaker: I've been reading so many good things about it.
Speaker: Yeah, so these are my two picks.
Speaker: She's amazing.
Speaker: She's hilarious.
Speaker: It's so fun.
Speaker: These are my two picks for this week.
Speaker: Please watch them.
Speaker: Give them a shot.
Speaker: I've read that the Beef is the best Netflix show in a very long time.
Speaker: How well it's written.
Speaker: It's really good.
Speaker: It's so well written.
Speaker: So good.
Speaker: Like cinematography, it's so good.
Speaker: The script is great.
Speaker: I would say Wellmania is nice at the same level but my problem with Wellmania is that he has a touch of the production but because the script is so good you can't really see it but I think that's also because my eye is so used to American productions
Speaker: typically american i feel like it's cheaply produced but maybe it's just like maybe it's just australia maybe it's just like the different way yeah speaking of netflix we just watched the last
Speaker: Spoiler alert.
Speaker: Spoiler alert.
Speaker: Love is blind.
Speaker: All predictions are wrong.
Speaker: No.
Speaker: I mean, Brett and Tiffany.
Speaker: And Zach and Bliss.
Speaker: And Zach and Bliss, yes.
Speaker: We thought this was the best.
Speaker: Let's go to one another.
Speaker: Kwame and Chelsea.
Speaker: The most crunchy couple of the season.
Speaker: I thought you were really impressed Chelsea in the first thought.
Speaker: I said to you, Lazyza, she's very nice, she's very fun.
Speaker: We were just like, we were shocked.
Speaker: We were scared a little bit.
Speaker: She was really scared.
Speaker: I thought I was like, she's a good girl and she's a good girl and she's a good girl and everything.
Speaker: And she gave her 21 years of truth.
Speaker: No, honestly, Chelsea,
Speaker: I'm on the fence and I keep going back and forth I cringe a lot when I did photoshoot I wanted to use it for a meme because it was so unhinged You're not even a person who was still in the face
Speaker: This I have never thought.
Speaker: It sounds very unhinged.
Speaker: And terrified.
Speaker: And cringed.
Speaker: And the person says, Kwame, run and run.
Speaker: Run, Kwame, run.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: She's so herself that I think, I admire that confidence.
Speaker: I admire that you can be so...
Speaker: out there with your love, with someone who's not returning it.
Speaker: And you're living in your fantasy world.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: Someone was just telling me, a friend of mine was telling me that someone wrote on one of the episodes in Nahaia, she's giving slave owner vibes, which I thought was like weird.
Speaker: Weird to say Aslan.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Any Nahaia.
Speaker: That opinion is very prevalent on Reddit and Martin, that she is this problematic white woman who is in a way fetishizing this black man.
Speaker: But I don't understand.
Speaker: I don't see it.
Speaker: I don't have experience.
Speaker: What if this is her preference?
Speaker: What if she does actually like black men?
Speaker: Is that a problem?
Speaker: Like if your reference is racial, is it a problem?
Speaker: Like if you're physically attracted to black men, hell...
Speaker: How preference when it includes a racial feature?
Speaker: I don't know if it's a judge.
Speaker: If a black man would only be interested in white women, people would find that problematic.
Speaker: If a black woman is only interested in white men, people could also find it problematic.
Speaker: But if a white man is only interested in black women,
Speaker: I don't know if people would find them problematic.
Speaker: But if someone is only interested in agents, they're also... I think it depends on any... Their approach.
Speaker: Sometimes their approach is cringey.
Speaker: Sometimes it's not, I guess.
Speaker: And sometimes you're not looking at the person... You like the idea of being with a black man.
Speaker: You like the... It's also... It's the same criticism a lot of the Kardashians got.
Speaker: And they're blackfishing.
Speaker: They're...
Speaker: culturally appropriating from black culture to have more money, to have more fame, to have more followers, to have more for him.
Speaker: And then also the same with the men.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I don't know how to think about it.
Speaker: I don't have an opinion on when it comes to the partner.
Speaker: I feel like it's case by case.
Speaker: If you're a person who's in the relationship, if you're a dated black man, you're a... I feel like it's just giving people a break.
Speaker: Whatever, if they like the person, they like them.
Speaker: She doesn't know how to theorize everything.
Speaker: And how would that make the person feel who's in the relationship?
Speaker: If Kwame, I don't know why she's a child.
Speaker: If we're the first one, she's a slave owner.
Speaker: How would that make him feel about... It's trashy a little bit.
Speaker: It's uncalled for.
Speaker: It's not up to us to decide.
Speaker: Unless she did something problematic.
Speaker: I think people are reading into the way she looks at him, the way she talks to him, the way... She loves color.
Speaker: I love color.
Speaker: She loves one color.
Speaker: Joking.
Speaker: I'm happy for them, to be honest.
Speaker: I think they will last.
Speaker: I'm not sure if I hope that they will last, but I think they will.
Speaker: I think he needs a woman like her.
Speaker: Anyway, next couple.
Speaker: I've always thought he was a mama's boy.
Speaker: Paul.
Speaker: Yes, in truth.
Speaker: His personality doesn't seem very developed to me.
Speaker: Maybe he doesn't translate well on camera, but I don't vibe with him.
Speaker: But I feel like I'm a little bit.
Speaker: Micah, I was a little bit more.
Speaker: Then she didn't read it with me.
Speaker: She was a little bit more.
Speaker: She was a little bit more.
Speaker: Trash.
Speaker: She's awful.
Speaker: No one has such a friend.
Speaker: She looks like Irina, the mean girl.
Speaker: Yeah, she does look like a mean girl.
Speaker: With a blonde hair.
Speaker: And
Speaker: Are you doing this for the victim?
Speaker: Why did you let him say first if you were sure that you wanted to marry him?
Speaker: I don't know if you're going to do it and I want to gain more support so that you can get on the altar or if you can see that you can get on the altar.
Speaker: I understand.
Speaker: I don't know if you're going to do it.
Speaker: She's fun.
Speaker: She's so cute.
Speaker: She gave us like some very good energy in this like poorly produced relationship.
Speaker: Tiffany and Brett.
Speaker: The couple of our dreams.
Speaker: They're both lovely.
Speaker: Obsessing.
Speaker: I saw the Lota when the Bantolol was there and started to throw a fit.
Speaker: This is not supposed to be this way.
Speaker: This was all planned.
Speaker: This was planned.
Speaker: This was avoidable.
Speaker: Oh, this is avoidable.
Speaker: Ah!
Speaker: I can't see it.
Speaker: Guys, this is my wedding.
Speaker: I want my pants to fit.
Speaker: I get it.
Speaker: I get it.
Speaker: He's under stress.
Speaker: This is the way he lashes out, which was very, actually, respectful.
Speaker: And, you know, he doesn't have to be a man.
Speaker: But actually, it was so unpredictable.
Speaker: You know, he doesn't have to be a man.
Speaker: I was very nice to the tailor lady.
Speaker: Like when she's fit.
Speaker: And she's fit.
Speaker: And she's fit.
Speaker: You wait for a day.
Speaker: And then Tiffany was nice.
Speaker: But again, not fitted.
Speaker: Paul, you see Paul was also in the air.
Speaker: the color of his name is not correct.
Speaker: How are the production team?
Speaker: How are Netflix?
Speaker: How are you?
Speaker: This is avoidable.
Speaker: Brett should have produced the show.
Speaker: He looks so beautiful.
Speaker: He would do everything great.
Speaker: They're lovely.
Speaker: I wish them all the best.
Speaker: Because they make me believe in love.
Speaker: And blind love.
Speaker: And blind love.
Speaker: I mean, I didn't know what to do with Brett and I didn't see him blind.
Speaker: Blind isn't blind.
Speaker: The last couple is Bliss.
Speaker: Bliss was a carousel.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Chandelier vibes.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: and that is not a big deal from the beginning and I started to get more than the other one
Speaker: He's just creepy.
Speaker: I don't know why he's creepy.
Speaker: I mean, it's so... I know it's horrible and judgmental to say that because he hasn't done anything creepy and he's actually had a very tough life and he's managed to do well for himself.
Speaker: But there's a lot about him.
Speaker: The way he looks at her, the way he stares and, like, I just think he doesn't translate well on camera.
Speaker: They don't translate well.
Speaker: Translate.
Speaker: Translate well.
Speaker: They don't translate well on camera.
Speaker: I don't feel like this problem.
Speaker: I don't even know what to do with me, but I don't know what to do with you.
Speaker: I feel like I'm feeling good.
Speaker: I respect his mom's story.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: I feel like they fit.
Speaker: I feel like they're a good match.
Speaker: I'm feeling good.
Speaker: I feel bliss in my heart is a big deal.
Speaker: And she's good, so she's even...
Speaker: He will help him to make this awkwardness.
Speaker: And he will take his hand.
Speaker: I wish him all the best.
Speaker: He will write comments to me on Instagram.
Speaker: He will always be able to say something.
Speaker: Really?
Speaker: We will be aware that he made the wrong choice in the first one.
Speaker: Oh, I... Yeah.
Speaker: We do.
Speaker: We do.
Speaker: So this is not a very easy thing.
Speaker: It's a heavily produced show, but it's fame.
Speaker: There's a lot of stressors.
Speaker: It's not.
Speaker: Marshall showed up to the wedding.
Speaker: That was very nice to Brittany.
Speaker: Brittany.
Speaker: Brittany.
Speaker: That's their cotton name.
Speaker: Um...
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: I'm not happy about this Jackie.
Speaker: I stand with Marshall.
Speaker: He's been nothing but respectful.
Speaker: He said nothing but good things about her.
Speaker: He didn't say anything bad so far at least.
Speaker: Guys, he didn't buy this ring.
Speaker: Netflix bought it.
Speaker: And it's very expensive.
Speaker: But of course I'm keeping it.
Speaker: We will never forget the fridge scene.
Speaker: the fridge put it in the fridge put it in the fridge uh i'm excited for the reunion yes we're very excited for the reunion we're gonna have a an episode right after yeah we will do our best to do this yeah three days but we will try
Speaker: And maybe we... Next week, we'll have it ready.
Speaker: Maybe we won't watch it.
Speaker: But we were thinking of also potentially getting another guest.
Speaker: Yes, for the reunion.
Speaker: Hand in your applications if you want to be a guest.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Thank you guys for listening.
Speaker: See you next week.
Speaker: See you next week.
