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Dr. Justin Moody: Financial Mistake

S3 E18 · Dental Fuel
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Are you truly prepared for implant complications? 

This week on #DentalFuel, Dr. Justin Moody sits down with Tanya Sue Maestas to break down what’s really missing in implant education. From live patient training to managing post-op complications, Moody shares how his innovative approach is creating more confident and capable implant dentists.

Episode Summary:

In this episode, Tanya Sue Maestas converses with Dr. Justin Moody about the transformative approaches in implant dentistry education and how they are elevating both community standards and surgical outcomes. The dialogue highlights the unique training models introduced by Moody, focusing on follow-up practices and post-surgery care, which distinguish his courses from conventional ones. Through extensive hands-on training sessions and a well-structured curriculum, Moody ensures that dental professionals are thoroughly prepared for real-world procedures.

Dr. Justin Moody underscores the importance of a solid educational foundation for aspiring implantologists, which he conveys through modular online learning combined with intensive hands-on practice. Emphasizing the importance of live patient training, Moody discusses how these elements enable dentists to succeed while also addressing common complications post-surgery. He mentions the significant advantages of the residency program with Jacksonville University, where volume and complexity prepare residents to confidently manage any potential complications in private practice. By merging traditional dentistry practices with cutting-edge educational techniques, Moody fosters a new breed of confident and competent implant dentists.

Key Takeaways:

  • Justin Moody has innovated implant dentistry education by integrating online modules with practical hands-on training.
  • The residency program at Jacksonville University provides residents with significant exposure to a high volume of procedures, enhancing their competency in managing surgical complications.
  • Understanding implant failures and complications equips practitioners with the knowledge necessary to resolve issues effectively, making implant dentistry a viable career path for risk-tolerant dentists.
  • Practical training at Implant Pathway facilitates the transition from learning theoretical basics to performing successful procedures with confidence.
  • Cherry-picking early cases allows new implantologists to build confidence and competence before tackling more complex scenarios.

Connect with Dr. Justin Moody: @drjustinmoody

Find out more about Implant Pathway: @implantpathway

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Connect with Tanya Sue Maestas: @tsmaestas.dds

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Transcript

Introduction to Dental Fuel Podcast

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Dental Fuel, the podcast that focuses on what no one else is talking about, mistakes. The dental world is full of before and afters, and no one is talking about the middle.
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00:00:24
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Failures can be costly. Learning to fix your failures can really be helpful. In this episode, Dr.

Importance of Post-Surgery Care

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Moody talks about post-surgery care and follow-up practices and how it can help your practice and save you money along the way.
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i think that's huge. And I think that the, you know, what you're doing for the community is is so awesome. Um, and something that you and I talked about on on your podcasts, which we'll include in the show notes is, ah the importance of those dentists who are coming into your course and having the license, but also the opportunity that your facility has to have any follow-up with potential complications that can come through after any surgeries.
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I think that's huge. I think that's different from other courses that are around. I think that, um, you know, we see a lot of courses where it's kind of a weekend thing and then patients are kind of left up ah love to dry.
00:01:15
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And so I think that that's excellent that that you guys are doing a a great service for the community out there. You know, we've like everything you do in life, like, you know, like we've tweaked it and and and and moved the the needle to try to create the the the course that is, ah you know, the the the best it could possibly be. And we changed it all the time. um You know,
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I can't, I mean, I've taken a lot of courses and I, ah you know, and and to be, you know, truthfully honest with your audience, you like when I first got into this, I always knew that the live patient training section was super important.

Live Patient Training Essentials

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um And I too took some groups of docs, you know, in the early years down to ah Mexico and we would do the surgeries down there because at the time there really wasn't any kind of,
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there wasn't a restricted license here. Like it, like it was, it wasn't a, you know, you know, know licensure in the United States is, it's kind of like, like that's a whole nother podcast. ah But um you know, so we always knew that that was, you know, important, but more just as equally important as the live, that the the reps on live people is the, that having a good foundation.
00:02:33
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And I think I mentioned like, you know i had to fly to Detroit, Michigan seven times, ah seven, like Friday, Saturday, Sundays. so Well, what I knew was like the barrier of entry to getting this education was that time, right? Like all that time. And it's not just the course isn't any cheaper because you go seven times, but like,
00:02:56
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seven times, you like 21 hotels and like seven round trip flights, like that might be more than the damn course. So I set out to put what I think, what I call the foundation portion of your education into one hour online modules that you can like like learn on your own, at your own pace, because you don't need to fly to Scottsdale to like,
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refresh yourself on bone physiology, like, like and in and in pharmacology, like, like and and these modules, you like you can go back and like like, listen to them over and over and over.

Hands-On Training and Practice

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So there's 35 of those. So there's 35 hours that that the dentist has before they ever show up.
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And then when they show up, I can hit the high notes from those modules, but we go directly into repetition on models. ah you know placing implants in a model, placing pick you know placing implants in a pig jaw, suturing.
00:03:58
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Like we suture every day for all five days that we're here. And it's sometimes a doctor that comes through, they're like, I'm done placing them on the ah on the on the model. And I said, you know I get that.
00:04:11
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But the act of placing, the act of drilling a hole in a piece of bone and actually placing the implant is not a hundred hour curriculum. Like like that the the the core is fine learning about, are you even putting this in a good host?
00:04:28
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yeah know Like, like like it's like like it's sort are we a good candidate for an implant? And then you have the technical aspect of of of of putting you know the implant in. And the the the model work has a lot to do with, I want you,
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to be familiar with the surgical kit and the the protocols of the of the surgery. So when you do go to the live surgical portion, you can, you don't think about it because you're not looking like, oh, like what drill do I start with? Like, where do I go? Like what's the marking or whatever?
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No, I've i had you place 16 implants throughout the week to get that part of your mindset out of the way. So now when you go to the the mouth, you don't have to worry about that.
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Now we can say, hey, here's our cone beam. Here's our measurements. Like we can concentrate on the actual, you know, placement of the

Challenges in Implant Dentistry

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implant. And you did touch on like
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there's no course out there that you could go to, that you're gonna be able to learn implant dentistry and not have complications. That's not like, I find myself to be a good implantologist and I have complications in my private practice because you know sometimes our patients aren't healthy.
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Sometimes, things just don't go well. But one of the things that we have here is a, ah we have a residency program ah run through Jacksonville University out of Florida. And it is a, ah it's a two year ah master's degree program.
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So our residents are here for two years and they're the ones that, you know, they help screen and work up the patients for the course. But the real value for them is post course.
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yeah like we got a fast track going on. We got 20 docs here that will place, you know, like we'll put somewhere between 220 to 260 implants in, ah you know, this week and those residents, they do the post ops, you know, they see the incision line openings, like we'll have some infections, you know, in that group. And what I think is interesting is that for a general dentist to put 250 implants in, like,
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It could take that person years, you know, to put that many in. Well, we're gonna do it this week. and So the law of averages, like we run we run about a 94, 95% success rate with our implants that they integrate and we able we're able to restore them, which is in line with all the literature, ah but at that level,
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Say we put 250 implants in, well, and at 95, we're gonna have 13 to 14 implants fail every single week. And you're like, my God, what are they doing over there? it's It's no different anywhere else, just the volume.
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So these docs, they get this they get the ability to to to ah handle the the complication. And I think what really separates our residents from other residents out there is that the sheer volume they see and the sheer number of complications they see, when they get out, when they're done with their residency and they go out to private practice, that part's not not scary to them.

Advice for New Practitioners

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When you come to the course, and you go home and you start practicing and your first failure comes around, it's mind boggling, right? Like you're like, oh my God, you know like, like, like I might have an upset patient I've got, cause implant failures are different than real tooth failures. Like real teeth fail all the time. you know they need, they need fillings. They've got broken crowns, broken fillings.
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But the the difference with real teeth is we can take care of it that day. Like, know, we can even do the endo and a crown on the same day. Like we have the ability to fix the human right then. When we have an implant fail, we have a biologic problem.
00:08:38
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And that is oftentimes like the implant, out you know, the implant has to come out, but we gotta rebuild the site with bone. And it takes time. Like, and then we gotta put the implant back in.
00:08:53
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Well, that takes time to reintegrate. And then, so that the it's the biology and the time associated with complications that makes implant dentistry different than real teeth.
00:09:07
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And it also is what makes it not for every dentist, because if you're pretty risk adverse, this isn't really the modality that that that you want, because you will have some complications, even if you,
00:09:23
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Even if you limited your implants to healthy humans with abundant bone, like like you will you will still run into one. And what I tell our docs is like, like when you come through here, man, pick 10 cases that are that are healthy humans, abundant bone, and go home and do them and have great success. Like you could probably get ah nearly 100, should be able to get 100% if you do that.
00:09:45
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And if you do it, you'll have a little more confidence. If you leave here and you go like, ah, my first 10 were all immediate and I lost four of them. You'll like be like, you know this thing is this implant dentistry thing isn't for me.
00:09:59
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Like this is like, like not profitable, upset patients, like all these other things, you know? So like, there's, there's kind of a lot that goes, you know, into it. And my, you know, my job uh, uh,
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I don't teach most of the, I help teach the sinus course, but don't teach most of the advanced courses. my My niche is I want to take people from little implant or no implant experience to getting into their practice and doing them in these cherry picked abundant bone cases and you'll either love it and like springboard into, you know, bigger cases and all the other stuff.
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Or you'd be like, you know what, this is just where I'm going to stay. going stay in my wheelhouse. That's super safe, like super efficient, super reliable, super predictable. And that's a hundred percent. so Perfect.
00:10:50
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Like, like, like implant dentistry is going different for everyone.

Conclusion and Next Steps

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Thanks for tuning in to our conversation with Dr. Justin Moody. We're back next week with a team mistake. Ready to take the next step in your journey? Book an intro call with Ignite DDS Coaching today and level up your future in dentistry.