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Ep 1 - Terminator 2
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We started with a movie we knew was going to be good. The next one you may not be so lucky.
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Introduction to the Podcast
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And if someone comes off to you with an attitude, you say, eat me. Okay. So I guess we are podcasting. Yay. So this is the first episode, hopefully of many of little show we're calling bangers and bombs before you're born. Um, the whole conceit of this is.
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Speaker
I thought it would be fun to do a podcast with my son, and we had a couple ideas, but most of them were ideas that other people had done better, like we wanted to do conspiracy theories, and then I listened to Behind the Bastards, and I'm like, somebody's doing that better than we are. So we decided to do something different, and we're going to watch and talk about movies that came out before my son was born.
Examining Generational Movie Perspectives
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which is roughly some time in the fall of 2006. Yeah. Um, cause I figured it'd be fun to look at it generationally. It's, I think there was kind of a big generational shift around 2006 and he's part of a new generation and I'm part of an older generation that sucks. You know what? So,
00:01:23
Speaker
That's what we're going to do. And after this one, we're going to do random movies. I've got a list. We're going to roll and get random movies. But we're starting off with a good movie first. And then we're going to do a movie that I don't think is going to hold up very well. So we got to be able to set those baselines. Yeah.
Podcast Structure and Host Introductions
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So I'm Brian. I am Seth's dad.
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Speaker
Yeah. My pronouns are he and him. Yes, I'll be a pronoun check every episode if you don't like it. Just don't go ahead and listen anymore because you're gonna hear it every time and I don't care. So Seth, go ahead, introduce yourself. My name is Seth. I'm a son and I go by he him. You are indeed a son. I am a son. What are you gonna do about it?
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Oh, what is something?
Revisiting 'Terminator 2: Judgment Day'
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So, first movie we started off with was one that we kind of figured would be a really good one. Yeah. We started off with, I have to look at my Excel spreadsheet, 1991. God, that makes me feel insanely old. 1991's Terminator 2 with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Speaker
and Linda Hamilton and a whole bunch of other good people. I remember when this movie came out, I remember watching it at home on VHS. Like I said, I am old. I remember when this movie came out on VHS and it was, we were all shocked, like, oh my God, that's the effects for the time we're in saying.
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Um, yeah, it's, you know, we watched stuff like that back then. We're like, Oh, this is the pinnacle of movie making. They're never going to get any better. And then we watch, I dunno, what do you think is one of the movies that's had the best effects recently we've seen? Um, maybe like, like all the Marvel movies that came out. Yeah. The Marvel movies are good. Jurassic world dominion was pretty great.
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Speaker
See, I've not seen that one. Like, you know, you look at like the first one that came out and then you look at that and it looks it looks real. It's real. Yeah, that is that is something that there is definitely a realism factor that that we're we get now that you didn't a long time ago.
Realism in Modern and Classic Movies
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Because then they just wanted to make it look cool. But now everyone's like, oh, it's going to look scary. It's going to look real. It's going to look bigger. And there's not really that much cool to the factors anymore. But we're messing ourselves up. Well, no, I think that's something to think about. Because you get some of these movies like Blue People Avatar,
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Speaker
Not the Avatar movie you don't talk about. There's another Avatar movie? No, there's not. No, there's not. There is no other Avatar movie. None. It doesn't exist. Exactly. You know, we don't want to talk to the king and go to Lake Hawkeye. But, you know, movies like that or...
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man, there was a couple of other ones in the early 2000s that just went out of this world crazy on effects.
Realism in 'Lord of the Rings' Props
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The Lord of the Rings movies. Oh, yeah, those are great. I mean, if you want to be nerds like me and your mom and watch all of the special features where they talk about how they do stuff, like they had literal people that all they did for like three years was make fake chain mail. Mm hmm.
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Speaker
And that movie looks really, really good. Yeah. I will tell you, some of the movies that we're going to watch are extremely bad, horrible. There are some movies on this list that are awful. The movie making is awful. The actors are awful. The writing is awful. The plot is awful.
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um, justifiably awful.
Plot Elements and Accessibility of 'Terminator 2'
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Speaker
So, so 1991's Terminator 2, um, which, and this is a other funny thing. I will admit, I have never seen the first Terminator. I haven't either. So, and I'm okay with that. I'm looking with it too. A lot of people say that it's, it's good, but it's not, I don't know. It's not worth it from what I've heard. It does it.
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Speaker
Like, I think Terminator 2 is like one of those movies that you can get by without watching the first one. It'll make sense. You don't have to watch the first one for it to make sense. That's true. Although I think, because we watched the special edition where it has a bunch of extra scenes cut in, I think they did a disservice by not putting some of the, like the scene with John.
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Wait, was it John? I can't remember. It's Kyle. I don't know why I wanted to call his dad John. Or Sarah sees Kyle in her hallucinations or whatever in the hospital. I think the movie is done at a service by not having those in it.
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Speaker
So I must have grown up watching the special edition because I I never recall it that scene not being in the movie because it's just such a memorable It's it's a really memorable scene. I I think because like you you look at it and It's just what you remember Yeah, that that scene was not in the original. There were several others. I'm Trying to remember off the top my head some other ones that weren't but that was not in the original movie
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And like I said, I think it does add a service by it not being in there. The other scene that's not in the original is the one where they're switching his chipped learning
Deleted Scenes and Character Development
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mode. That's true. I think that is one. And I think the movie is done at a service by that too, because, and we'll get to it, but you can see throughout the movie after they do that,
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It really adds development. It adds development. There's a subtle change. Well, not so subtle, but there's a change in the Terminator that really is set up by that. And I will say I was reading some of the stuff IMDB. Both Arnold Schwarzenegger and the director fought hard with the
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the studio over some changes that they wanted to make in this movie because they were like, yeah, no, that's not right. So on to the movie, which I have to say, at least from when I grew up, you see that first scene where it opens and you've got these giant
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robots that Boston Dynamics would be like,
Impact of Practical Effects
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oh my gosh, that's our next thing. So you get the robots, they are trying to kill everybody. And that was, that scene was kind of crazy. Oh yeah. That was like, that was like amazing to y'all probably. It was because it was just,
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It's not brutal, but it's just crazy. Because you look at this stuff in that movie, and you see that scene. You're like, OK, those were real props. That wasn't CGI. It wasn't computer generated. That was real.
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metal robot looking things that really yes they were over that you know they held weapons and they had human faces and red eyes and it was just something that you know you hadn't really seen and you run from that
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to the scene where the terminators arrive, which also was kind of shocking. So the terminators arrive in the movie after the scene with a whole lot of lightning. And you see Arnold Schwarzenegger. And he's got no clothes on and just like, OK, that's a bit much.
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Yeah. And this, I'm sorry, this is my favorite bit of trivia movie. So, you know, he comes into the movie and then he goes into the bar. And I remember we talked about it when we watched the movie. That bar was literally across the street from where Rodney King was beaten in 1990.
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They actually were filming at that location the night of oh my gosh, yeah, so That's a connection because The Rodney King riots in 1990 91 were
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I have to show you some video of it. It's crazy. I mean, you think the riots like up in that they had after like George Floyd or stuff like that were bad. I mean, these were full till riots for like weeks. And it was kind of a weird turning point
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in history because that was the first time where stuff like that has happened to George Floyd and all these other people was caught on tape. And that's where you see this shift into the way things are today. But that's another story for another podcast. Oh, rabbit hole. Oh, yeah, I love rabbit holes. Sorry.
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You know, I can talk about rabbit holes all day. So Arnold shows up, he goes into a biker bar, walks in, finds the first guy, he scans him and he was like, oh, his clothes fit. This was a crazy, a crazy scene to start off with, too, because
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like the biker putting his cigarette out on Arnold. And the fight that came after was... I don't know, I don't remember seeing a lot of stuff like that in movies back then. That was kind of a new one. Like where he grabbed the biker and he throws them back onto the hot stove top in the back. Ow. Ow!
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Yeah. Yeah. No, thank you. Honestly, if like, okay. So if I just see this random, random buff dude walk up to me and ask me to take off my clothes right in front of everybody and I go to put my cigarette on out on him and he does not react. I think I would pee myself. I
Trivia: Bar Scene and Historical Context
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would, I would, I would need it. I would need a change of clothes after that. Yeah. Cause I mean,
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I've never had anyone put a cigarette out on me, but I've heard stories about it. It never hurts. And, well, that also, because he puts a cigarette on a guy and then there was that guy behind him with the pool cue that hits him over the back of the head and he just turns around and is like, did you just do that to me? Like, what happened? What happened? Yeah.
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I'm not surprised. It would have not fit the movie, but when he goes back and he grabs the clothes off that guy for him to scan it again and it'd be like clothes were soiled. These clothes are dirty. So he gets his clothes. He steals the guy's bike.
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Our owner tries one last time to, uh, don't do that. I'll put, can't let you take the man's son off to put you down. No, no, no. And then we see the other Terminator show up played by Robert, Robert Patrick, who we also know from another movie we'll watch later. Uh, he's in Die Hard 2. Really?
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Yes, he is in Die Hard 2. He's one of the henchmen in that movie. He is also, you remember him probably the most from X-Files. Oh. Because you remember the later seasons of X-Files when Mulder was gone and he got replaced for a little bit? Cry check. No, not cry check. Oh. He was the other FBI agent that was working with
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Now I can't remember her name. Jillian Anderson. Scully? Yeah. No, that's a cry check. No. Now I'm going to have to look. John. John Doggett. That's who it was. John Doggett. I think so. I'm looking on it. I've got it. Okay. As I say, I've got. He, he did a voice in
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He did a voice in Avatar The Last Airbender. What? Yeah. Dang. He was, okay. This is a side note. Do you remember the episode where Sokka needed to find a master? Oh, was he that dude? Yep. Dang. Yeah. So he shows up and immediately takes out
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a random LAPD officer who steals his car. It was kind of creepy. He was the creepiest character in this entire movie. And if you look on IMDB for the stuff that he did, he picked up a lot of
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like his actions and the way he moved from like animals. Like one of the things I remember he did, this is one of the first times where you'll see stuff like this.
Robert Patrick's Unique T-1000 Portrayal
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I want to say he did a lot of firearms training so that he could shoot a gun and not flinch.
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Because the way they reasoned it was was a terminator like him, if he shoots a gun, he's not going to flinch. He also did a lot of running. So he was crazy creepy, even just the way he looked, the way he acted. So he shows up, takes out a cop. Fondles a computer in a cop car.
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He gets in and he's like, ooh, ooh, I like this. And then we cut to... I'm trying to remember if it goes to... No, it doesn't go to John yet. It goes to Linda Hamilton, who is in a psychiatric facility, which I have to say, this part of the movie is probably accurate because psychiatric facilities are not nice places.
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Mm hmm. Oh, and there were some there was a couple of scenes in the special edition where like between her and the ultra creepy. Orderly in the hospital, the one the one that licks her face later. Oh, that nasty. Oh, it's so nasty.
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She is trying to meet with her psychiatrist because she wants to see her kid. But the psychiatrist doesn't believe her. Because she's tried to escape so many times. Because I think right before this,
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the psychiatrist has taken like students around and she's like, hello, Dr. Silverman, how's the knee? And he turns and he goes, yeah, she busted my knee the last time we tried to talk to her. So it's obvious. I mean, he's freaked out by her, but he's also, I mean,
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Yeah, he probably looks at it and goes, this is a strange case and he wants to get to the bottom of it just because it probably he thinks it's going to make his career or whatever. So they try to talk to her. She, you know, she puts on the charm. He goes, I don't believe you. And then she tries to kick the shit out of him.
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I mean, it was because she just goes in an instant from, oh, I just really want to see my son, too. I want to kill you! And jumps across the table and just tries to wreck him. So they take her back and then we go to see John, who, living with his foster parents.
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Foster Mom's kind of had it up to her eyebrows with both her foster son and her lazy husband who wants to sit around and watch boxing all day. Mood. Mood, definitely. And John and his friend go off to commit some... Well, it's $300, so back then it would have been
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petty theft, not felony theft. Well, no, it'd been, it'd probably been felony theft because he breaks into a computer to do it. Yeah. So I think the scene where, yeah, the scene where, um, so we get, uh, Robert Patrick's terminator shows up at the house and he's still creepy. He's nice and he's smiling.
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but just to watch him, he's, there's just some, I don't know, I got that feeling. Did you get that? Or he's just. Yeah. When we were watching it, I recall saying like, you know, cops nowadays are like not as friendly. So like, if this man just walks up to my door, he's like, hi, how is your son home? John, is your son John? Uh, I really need to talk to him. And like, you know, you say no.
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Like nowadays they're going to be like, well, can we search the premises? And he was just like, oh, well, I'll go look for him. Like, where did he go? Like that, that freaks me out. Yeah. It was really kind of creepy. Yeah. And then also he goes, um, the foster mom, I think it was foster dad. He's like, yeah, some guy on a bike was here earlier looking for him. Is that, you know, and our rat tricks, I
00:23:51
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you don't have to worry about him. So it's like, yeah, he kind of was involved if he's like, you don't have to worry about him. Yeah. Like I, I think I'd look back to like the dad and just be like, what was taught what? Yeah. So we go to one of my favorite parts of this movie now. Um, John and his friend,
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I don't know what his name is. I never did look there at the arcade and John's friend is based in the most incredible way because Robert Patrick comes up and he goes, Tim. Is it, is it Tim? Yeah. His name's Tim.
00:24:46
Speaker
That kid, I'm sorry, that kid can't be named Tim. He needs to be like Cyrus or Billy Joe. He looked like you ripped him out of Southern Kentucky. You can't name that kid Tim. I mean, you have like that one, the foster mom has like one of them country names like Janelle. I mean, like you can't just,
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Take this boy with this ginger kid with a mole and name him Tim. Tim. I'm going to have to remember that now for the rest of my life. So Robert Patrick walks up to Tim. He's like, have you seen this kid? He goes, nah, never seen him. That, oh my, that's a good friend right there. That is a good friend. Total good friend.
00:25:45
Speaker
Okay, Zencaster shit to bed for a minute. Yeah. And now we're back. So where we left off, Tim was being a good friend and lying to the police. And also unknowingly saving the entire human race, at least temporarily. And then some other nerd with glasses
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It was over there. It's like he's over there. So. And we see Robert Patrick just mow down a whole bunch of high schoolers in an arcade. Hey, I think I saw him over there launches him across the room. Yeah, just destroyed him. It was a great forearm shiver. I mean, if the Colts are looking for alignment.
00:26:39
Speaker
The T1000 would be a great start. Chases him into a hallway. And you get the other nerdy guy, hey, you can't be back here. And also the gratuitous product placement of Pepsi everywhere.
00:26:59
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And this is a great scene because he's trying all the doors. You can tell he's scared out of his mind because his cops after him. And although he thinks it's just a cop, which is still a good reason to be scared and try to run. And then the Terminator shows up, the other Terminator.
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And I love the shotgun and a box of roses. Guns and roses. See, that would be great if they had guns and roses on the soundtrack, but I think it was ACDC. Yeah, it was. But we'll try. So he shows up with a shotgun.
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and immediately tells him to get down, which I'm sorry, if somebody with a shotgun tells me to get down, I'm going to do that. The guy behind him gets lit up. Oh, yeah, because Robert Patrick's Terminator just like, oh, I know this guy. I want to destroy him and just lights up the guy with the Pepsi can.
00:28:15
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and you see the strangest fight of Robert Patrick and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the hallway them just throwing each other through walls just basically tune up the scenery which I loved because up until this point you know when you see Arnold Schwarzenegger you're like okay this guy is buff he's huge and then you see
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this little itty bitty Robert Patrick just throwing him through walls. That's got you thinking, okay, he's a lot more dangerous than is being let on here.
00:29:03
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I will bring up one thing. You can tell how better coordinated our fight scenes are nowadays because they weren't actually shooting at each other and doing things, but if they were, they weren't very coordinated. Every time the Robert Patrick's Terminator gets shot, he just flies into the air.
00:29:33
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Yeah. I'm not going to claim to be an expert on firearms. Yeah. But I feel like his reactions are exaggerated. Yeah. At least when there are scenes later on where like, Linda Hamilton's light them up with a nine millimeter handgun, and he's just
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like he's like he's trying to do a dance with his chest. And it's like nine millimeters not going to put that much energy into you unless I don't know if it's a density thing because you don't know how heavy or light he is. Yeah. If that makes any sense.
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So then we get one of the first two chase scenes in the movie, which in 1991, when this movie came out, this was an insane chase scene. One, because Robert Patrick literally just takes off and puts on an audition for The Flash.
00:31:01
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running after John who's escaping on his motorcycle. But then you get to chase through the LA River, which is the concrete thing they're in, of John on a motorcycle. You got a dirt bike. You've got Arnold Schwarzenegger on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle.
00:31:30
Speaker
And then you have Robert Patrick in a tow truck. The scene that really makes this chase scene for me is, well, there's two of them. One, where John gets down into the LA River and he feels like, OK, you know, I feel a little bit better. He's I can't see him and he stops.
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And then he turns around and you hear the music come up and you see him come over the bridge in the tow truck. And then further on on the chase. And this is one of the things where when they were filming, they had this certain route of the LA River, they had to go through and
00:32:30
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Um, there's this point where I guess the stunt people are like, well, the, the bridge is too low for the truck to go through. What are we going to do? And the director is like, we'll just take the top, take the top off the truck. And so he, you know, Robert Patrick, well, the stunt driver drives it through the bridge, takes the top off. And you see him pop up and push the window out and keep driving. That was just like, you know,
00:32:59
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that set the scene of this guy's not going to stop for anything.
Memorable Chase Scene in 'Terminator 2'
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I would die of fear. I just might, I would go into cardiac arrest right there and just be like, nope, I'm not getting out of this alive. I'll just die right now. Yeah. Cause it's, I mean, you honestly know that this guy is, he is committed. He is committed to ending me. Yeah, I would die. I'd die of fear.
00:33:30
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But then Terminator shows up. Also one of the craziest scenes where he launches a Harley Davidson motorcycle over like a 20 foot jump. He grabs John. They take care of the Terminator. Well, the Terminator takes care of himself because he hits a bridge button and blows up.
00:33:58
Speaker
But I, I'm with you. This is one of those things where I'm like, okay, so this guy that showed up out of nowhere with a shotgun got beaten the hell out of by the guy that just got destroyed. And now he's got me. I'm going to die. That's just, I don't know.
00:34:27
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that reaction of his, I mean, where he's like, you know, stop, stop, stop the bike, because he's just like, this is not right. I feel like it dreamed him. I feel like he sells it short. Yeah. I would have been like, not only is this not right, I'm. I feel like I am on drugs right now or somebody is playing with me or something is going on, because this is just not right.
00:35:04
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So we get the Terminator who explains to John that the other crazy thing is John's like, so who sent you? The Terminator's like, you did 30 years from now. And it's that it's just this constant thing of
00:35:25
Speaker
So this guy is saying he's from the future that I sent him to protect me. Why the hell did you do that? Because you told me to. I don't understand how you can. Reconcile that without just going totally nuts. You're going to have some like in like insane. Are you still there? You dropped off for a second.
00:35:56
Speaker
Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, that's right. I was muted trying to keep background noise out. Oh, and that's, I thought it was Zencaster just doing something together. No, but like, um, I think you gotta have some like insane mental training to be calm in that kind of situation. Well, and he did say, you know, he's like, you know, mom told me all this stuff growing up. I thought it was all bullshit. You know, I thought it was not real. I thought mom was just nuts.
00:36:24
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Yeah, and you get that really kind of sad line delivery of just like, no one believed her, not even I did. And then he realizes, oh crap, we gotta go get mom and terminators. He's like, no, that's not a great idea. Because he's like, if I was coming to get you,
00:36:52
Speaker
I would think that you would do the same thing and I would go the same place. Um, that is, um, that line was actually delivered. Um, he's, he said he had to go home and grab some stuff and he's like, no, he tried and he'd try and recollect you there. And he's like, really? And he goes, I would. Oh yeah, that's right. Cause he calls him.
00:37:12
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He calls Janelle. He calls Janelle. And it's so funny that he's like, when he's talking to her, he's like, something's wrong. She's never this nice. And then he's like, and the dog's barking. And it's great because, you know, you get that little scene of
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the Terminator on the phone and the foster dad's like, I thought you were going to tell him to get rid of that, but hey, shut up. And she just blows them off. Well, no, she remember the Terminator creates that giant knife and just ends him. She blows him off then does that. Yeah. Just rolls her eyes. So then Arnold Schwarzenegger also shows he can man my voices.
00:38:09
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And he's like, what's the dog's name? And he uses a fake- That's why. Uses a fake name. Hey, how's Wolfie? How's Wolfie doing? Wolfie's just fine. And then he hangs up, both your foster parents are dead. And John's like, oh my gosh. At least he didn't go, both your foster parents and soon the dog are all dead. Yeah, they never specified as the dog died.
00:38:40
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Well, no, you see it after. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because he goes back in. Well, they don't show it, thankfully, but he goes back and he grabs the he grabs a dog, you hear a yelp and then he is the least or the collar. He has that look like. Yeah, they screwed me. So. They head off to the mental hospital, so does the Terminator.
00:39:11
Speaker
And this is another scene that's not in the original movie where they are interviewing. Linda Patrick or. I'm so bad with names. I know Linda Hamilton. Linda Patrick. Sarah Connor and they're showing her the pictures from the mall.
00:39:39
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and then the pictures from the first movie, and they're like, this is the same guy, don't you care? She's like, no, not really. Oh my gosh, wait. Okay, but like, I completely forgot about that completely amazing line from earlier in the movie where they were interviewing her that one time, and she goes, anyone not wearing two million sunblock to have a really bad day, get it?
00:40:12
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But so she steals a paperclip. Because she has decided, oh, crap, I got to get out of here because I'm going to die. So creepy dude takes her back to her room, ties her up. And this is one of the worst scenes in the entire movie that just makes my skin crawl, where the orderly licks her face.
00:40:42
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But she makes up for that because she breaks out of her room. And while he's on rounds, she beats the ever loving snot out of him with a broom handle. And the funny thing was, earlier in the movie,
00:41:10
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there's a scene where he hits her with a baton. And they had to do a couple of cuts of that scene because he just wasn't doing it right, wasn't hitting hard enough or whatever. And it didn't feel good, even if it was a fake hit. So when she did that scene with him, where she hit him with a broom handle, she didn't full on obliterate him, but she put
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some weight behind it and really hit him. So I feel she vindicates her character a little bit by absolutely destroying the creepy guy. So you get John and the Terminator show up out front. And I love this scene because he's like, he's like, swear you won't kill anybody. And it's like, what?
00:42:09
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He goes, put your right arm up and say, I swear I won't kill anybody. And then they roll up to the front gate. And the guard is like, I've had enough of this today. He's like visiting hours and the Terminator just shoots him in the knee. He's like, I thought I told you not to kill anybody. You live. You live.
00:42:39
Speaker
So then we get inside and you see the Terminator come in, the other Terminator, Robert Patrick. I'm just going to start calling the T-1000. Robert Patrick's Terminator comes in, gets some info. He knows that Sarah is there, but he's like, I got to get in here and it's going to be hard as a cop. So we get one of my favorite scenes of this movie where security guard comes up
00:43:10
Speaker
There's a little banner with the other security guard. You want some coffee? How about a beer? Which, mood. He gets a coffee, and then you see the floor rise up behind him. Ooh, I got a wind. Today's my lucky day. And I have to think, so the way this scene was done is the security guard has a twin, identical twin brother.
00:43:43
Speaker
And he turns around and looks face to face, and it's him, because it's his identical twin brother. But he's playing the Terminator, the T-1000. And he uses his pointing finger and creates a big, long knife and knives the other guy through the head. And you have to think.
00:44:13
Speaker
If it's your twin brother, you have to think there was some banter back and forth of, haha, I got to kill you in the movie. Oh, also, um, another little fact, you know, um, his, the actor's name is Don Stanton, but his brother is also named Don Stanton. They're, they have the same name. No, it's Don and Dan. Don and Dan, Don and Dan, stupid. Yeah, it's Don and Dan.
00:44:43
Speaker
My bad. That's it. Well, I mean, I'm dyslexic. I have bad eyesight, so I do the same thing, too. So then we get Sarah, who has freed herself with the aid of today on the lock picking lawyer, where she gets herself out the door.
00:45:11
Speaker
And we get I love the scene, the hostage scene with the doctor. Oh, yeah. You know, because she she walks in, beats a crap out of the one guy and then he goes to reach for a phone and she comes down with a baton and just obliterates his arm. And then
00:45:38
Speaker
I'm trying to remember if she hits him in the nose, and he's like, you broke my nose. And she goes, he either says something about his arm or his nose, one of the two. And she has a line, there's 215 bones in the human body. That's one. I love that little hint of, I just broke one of your body. I know there's more, and I'll break them too. Yep.
00:46:06
Speaker
She gets a syringe ready with Drano, puts it in his neck. I love the thing cause when she's filling up, he's like, what are you going to do with that? I'm like, she's not going to clean any toilets with it. That's for sure. She's going to probably put it in your leg. So she goes, uses him to get out.
00:46:36
Speaker
finds her way over to an elevator to get out and then appears. He appears and he looks exactly I want to say he looks almost exactly like he did in the first movie the way he's dressed. So of course she freaks the ever loving hell out because she's like oh I've done this before he's here to kill me again. She runs
00:47:05
Speaker
John runs after her mom. No, no, no. So we get another fight scene where Arnold Schwarzenegger just obliterates these staffers. I love that look he gives.
00:47:28
Speaker
Do you remember that one woman that hits him? Yeah. She slugs him and she breaks his glass. She breaks his glasses and he just looks at her like, uh-uh, you shouldn't have done that. Mix her up by the face and throws her like a half a foot away. Yeah. John finally gets mom to calm down. He's like, she, you know, he's not here to kill you. He's here to keep us safe. We got to get out of here. And then.
00:47:59
Speaker
This is the scene in the movie when we saw it growing up. We were just like, holy, you know what? Where T-1000 comes up, there's a metal jail door, and he just walks through it. And the psychiatrist look was the look that we all had.
00:48:29
Speaker
Did you just really do that? You could walk through the door? It's it's funny. I don't think it's. I have to look, I think this movie came after our time on it that. In Genesis. There's a scene where that guy comes back and he's talking to
00:48:59
Speaker
That movies. Version of Sarah Connor and somebody, I don't remember who the guy's name in that movie was, but he's like. Yeah, Reese, and he's like, yeah, I've seen things. Crazy things you wait, you say you don't know if it cuts off the time limit. Genesis was released in 2015, boy. OK, then it's definitely passed so. But he's like, you know, I've seen things.
00:49:29
Speaker
crazy things, unexplainable things. And you just see the look on his face. He's like, I don't want to talk about this anymore. So. We get the elevator fight scene, which I'm there's two things that annoy me to all get out on the scene. One. So
00:49:56
Speaker
Sarah Connor is supposed to be like this badass that knows all kinds of things about fighting. Did you notice that when she had that gun, she stayed in one corner? Who? Sarah Connor. Not really. So she grabbed that gun out of the terminator's pants and she stayed in the one corner of the elevator and kept firing. Oh, yeah. Why didn't she move?
00:50:23
Speaker
I have no clue. Because when you stay in one spot and you keep firing, he's going to remember, OK, I'm getting all these shots from this
Realism in Action Scenes
00:50:33
Speaker
one spot. So that's how he gets her with his knife hand. Oh, because she's dumb. Right. The other is, so she's firing. I'm going to look, I want to say it's a nine millimeter, but
00:50:55
Speaker
Um, I'm gonna look, there's a site. I don't know if I've ever shown you this. It's called IMFDB, which is like IMDB for movies, except for it only talks about the guns that are used in movies. So if you ever want to know like what kind of gun is being used in a movie, that's the one to look at. So let's see.
00:51:24
Speaker
What is it she uses? Oh, okay. It is a... So it is a Colt series 70 slide. Ow! You all right? Yeah, one of the cast is trying to jump on me. It's a Colt series 70 slide Deltonic's frame with packmarked grips.
00:51:55
Speaker
and is chambered in nine millimeter because 45s didn't cycle as well as blanks at the time. So she's firing a nine millimeter handgun and Arnold Schwarzenegger Terminator has a Winchester 1887 shotgun. Beautiful, by the way. Yeah, that's an amazing gun.
00:52:26
Speaker
So they're both in this elevator shooting all these shots. Nobody's wearing any hearing protection and they walk out like it's normal. I can tell you from accidentally shooting a rifle without putting my hearing protection on once, it stunned me.
00:52:55
Speaker
Cause it was so loud. So that's, I'm just like, they walk out of this elevator, like nothing happens. I'm like, you just, you know, went through a magazine of nine millimeter and a couple of shotgun shells and an elevator. You guys aren't going to have such a headache, but anyways, they go out and steal a cop car.
00:53:24
Speaker
from the geekiest looking LAPD officer you've ever seen, which I'm sorry, when she, when she pointed the gun at the car and he didn't get out, I'm like, dude, just get out. Cause you know, you're going to get destroyed. They escaped in a cop car. Terminator runs after them. Okay. So Robert Patrick runs after them.
00:53:52
Speaker
This is another one of those parts where it's like, he's running after them, like running, running. I'm going to pee my pants. They escape. They find their way to a abandoned gas station. And this is where we get the deleted scene where John asks Arnold Schwarzenegger, his terminator, he goes,
00:54:22
Speaker
Can you learn any sense in the term? It's like, yeah, we can. They just are that we're not set to that normally because that's how Skynet controls us. And I like this scene and I feel like it's it's another one of those it does a disservice to the movie by not having it. Mm hmm. Because. You don't
00:54:56
Speaker
By him not being able to learn, it doesn't give him any growth. Yeah. And also the scene where John and Sarah are arguing about, because they have the chip out, and she's like, no, we could end this right now. And he goes, no.
00:55:23
Speaker
He goes, why aren't you? He says, you know, we've done things your way. He goes, we're going to do things my way for once. And after the switch, I think that enables a lot of what happens in the end of the movie. Because. Since he's able to learn and think and
00:55:52
Speaker
make these kind of connections. We'll talk about if there's a scene later where it's really important. Yeah. But it's just it's an important thing to be shown. So they go get out of town and they go to this hideout that Sarah used to have in the desert to get guns. Yeah.
00:56:21
Speaker
Which is funny because along the way, we get some gold moments where like John's telling you, you know, if anybody comes up with you an attitude, you just say, just eat. If somebody comes up with you an attitude, you just say, eat me. I'm like, OK, that's the way to get yourself beat up, but whatever. And he tries to teach him to smile, which was
00:56:48
Speaker
Do you remember when they were trying to get something to eat? And he goes, smile a little bit. He points out some guy and he goes, that's smiling. He tries to smile and it looks goofy. So then they finally go and they get loaded up on guns. And this is one of those scenes
00:57:17
Speaker
that you see in a lot of there's another great Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. I don't know if we'll watch it. I don't remember if I put it on the list or not. Where he basically he steals a whole bunch of guns from a gun store to go storm this island to get his daughter back. You may have to watch that movie. That's a good one.
00:57:47
Speaker
It's kind of weird, but it's a good movie. So they get all these guns. And Sarah has another vision and she goes, she figures out she she's going to solve this once and for all. She's going to go take out Miles Dyson, who is. The engineer that's working on Skynet. Yeah. And
00:58:20
Speaker
I like that whole setup because in the scenes with Dyson before, you can tell that he has some idea that there's something nefarious about what he's working on. So do you remember earlier when
00:58:51
Speaker
There's that one guy in the lab who's like, you need to come sign it out. And they go and he goes, you know, I know I've only been here for a short amount of time. He goes, do you know where it came from? And Miles is like, you know, I asked that same question once and they told me the same thing I'm going to tell you. Don't ask. Oh, damn. And. Because when he goes to get it, he also sees the the arm from the first movie.
00:59:20
Speaker
So you can tell he's got some inkling that there's something not right. Yeah. But he continues to work on it. So I'm going to have to look it up because she has a beautiful gun that she rocks up to take him out with. I got to look up what it was. It was a...
00:59:50
Speaker
Almost there. It's a Colt model 653. Oh, it's an M16A1 carbine with a suppressor and a laser sight. And
01:00:19
Speaker
The great thing about this scene is the lead up to it where his son is driving around the house and she's outside and you just go back and forth. It dials up the tension a lot. And then when she just starts obliterating the house and his wife and his son are standing there and he's like, go, go, go.
01:00:49
Speaker
It it was a crazy scene then and it is now I Will say it like I think that's one of the only parts of the movie that like actually kind of puts puts me off a little bit Why so I don't know like it's just like in like later scenes on like I don't know it just it kind of shakes me up a little bit for some reason cuz I don't know that's just disturbing to me and
01:01:20
Speaker
I can see that. And I think it's good, too, because you see when John and
Linda Hamilton's Powerful Performance
01:01:34
Speaker
the Terminator arrive, you can see that she just breaks down. She cannot believe that she went to go do that.
01:01:45
Speaker
and i will i will say like there's also i think another reason why it's um so like disturbing a little bit is because they're so great at acting like because um i don't oh my gosh i can't remember her name the girl who plays sarah is like so good at like acting out that like actual like
01:02:12
Speaker
What was the word despair? She's so good at acting that out and the guy who plays Dyson is so good It's like that like actual fear Yeah, you there was palpable fear from him. Mm-hmm and from everybody else in that house and the way that Linda Hamilton plays that that breakdown of oh my god, what did I do?
01:02:43
Speaker
Great acting. Yeah. And it I think if it was anybody else, I don't think that scene would have been pulled off quite as well. Mm hmm. And then to follow that up with. Because, you know, you follow it up and then John's like he tells the terminators like show him and he cuts the skin off his arm. Why do you need that much, man?
01:03:13
Speaker
Yeah, it's like you just cut off your skin on your hand. Like do a finger at least. But you know, he he sees it that arm. I think it was probably because. Sarah had probably told John at one point that the arm survived. And John knew that, and it was like if you if you show Miles Dyson, hey, I have that same arm right here.
01:03:43
Speaker
then you're going to get that same kind of reaction. You. So Terminator explains everything. And I love Miles Dyson, the guy that plays Miles Dyson's line goes, I think I'm going to be sick. And you can just the way he acts that line, just like you could tell he's like, I'm about to go throw up. Jill Morton.
01:04:11
Speaker
He's been in some other good stuff. Blues Brothers. He plays this guy named Cabell. I think, okay, so there's a funny story about that. So if he's who I'm thinking of, in the Blues Brothers,
01:04:40
Speaker
He plays this kid from the street. Wait, no. Wait, is Joe Morton in the original? Yeah, he plays. Yeah. I don't know. No, he can't play that guy because I was thinking he was somebody else. Anyways, but yeah, Blue's Brothers is another good movie, which we'll get to.
01:05:08
Speaker
So they decide we got to go blow all this up. And I love the way they go into the lobby of Cyberdyne and Miles Ice is like, hey, you know, it's just some family from out of town. We're going to go show them the lab. And the security guard is like, you know, you can't do that. And they all pull out guns.
01:05:36
Speaker
And they're like, yeah, we're going to do it. And then they tie them up in the bathroom. This whole sequence of them. Going to blow up the lab is. I think really helps make this movie. Because
01:06:07
Speaker
it gives you enough of that hope that, okay, things are going right. But you keep getting those little hints of like where the cops show up and things like that. And like, you know, this is, you keep getting those little hints of, okay, there's hope, but they're going to screw up or something's going to happen and they're, they're, they're not going to make it through this. The few things to really kind of point out from this is one,
01:06:38
Speaker
According to your mother, who's a nurse, Miles Dyson's death where he stops breathing is scarily accurate.
Realism in Miles Dyson's Death Scene
01:06:51
Speaker
Because what happens is they get everything set up to blow up and the SWAT team comes in and as SWAT teams are want to do, they come in and they just shoot first, take names later.
01:07:08
Speaker
and they shoot up the room, they shoot up the people in the room, and you get the great scene where the SWAT team comes up and Miles is on the floor and he's got this thing, he's like, I don't know how much longer I can hold this. And he's like, he's panting. Yeah. And the look on the SWAT team guy's face, he's like, oh crap, we gotta get out of here. I will say,
01:07:35
Speaker
Linda Hamilton from shooting those shootout scenes. She actually got minor hearing damage because she didn't switch her earplugs throughout the different takes. So she got hearing damage. Oh, I don't doubt it considering all the shootings they did. So they end up getting everything blown up and
01:08:06
Speaker
I love the scene where they're in the elevator at the bottom floor. And he, well, one, because he's like, I'll be back. And he goes out, and these SWAT team guys are out there. And he just starts picking them off, shooting them in the knee. And you're just like, why are you not running? Exactly. Why are you not running away?
01:08:32
Speaker
I mean, I don't even care if I get, like, fired or, like, scolded, but, like, you need to be brave. If I see this guy walking, not falling, if I have to get shot, like, 50 times, I'm running. I'm sorry. Yeah, because he walks down the hallway, and they, like, go through, like, two or three magazines a piece, and they've got, like, MP5s, and they destroy him. And he's just like, I don't care. He walks up and shoots him all in the knee. So he goes,
01:09:03
Speaker
And also, I love the scene because he he walks out with his tear gas, the tear gas gun, and he fires tear gas at everybody. And you can see how all the cops are just like, they freak out. I love it where he walks up. To the two guys by the the van, he takes the ones. Mask off, mask off. And then he looks at the other. He goes, here, hold this. He gives him the gun and he takes his mask off.
01:09:33
Speaker
And then you get that first little hint that he's learning, because he goes to rip open to hotwire the van. And then he remembers, oh, John showed me that the keys are up in the thing. Yeah. And it works. And then we get the second chase scene with the helicopter. Oh, lit. Yeah. I don't have to double check myself,
01:10:03
Speaker
that helicopter chase scene where they go under the. I'm trying to find it again. So they go to do that scene under the. Overpass.
01:10:30
Speaker
And I remember hearing somewhere or reading somewhere that like the something like there was a bunch of stuff that was going against it. And I guess the director was like, I'll put up my own money to make sure that we do this scene. And they pulled it off in one take because a lot of the stunt pilots were like, I don't want to do that.
01:11:03
Speaker
So, but you get this great chase scene with the helicopter. Because there's. It adds to that sense of fear because it's like he just keeps coming. Mm hmm. And. Excuse me, they finally take him out.
01:11:36
Speaker
I'm trying to remember how they do that on the helicopter. How did they crash the helicopter? Now I can't remember how they do that. Hold on, let me look. How they crashed the helicopter. Wasn't it like... No. Didn't they shoot at the dude up there? Didn't they shoot at the T-1000?
01:12:06
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's what they did. I don't remember off the top of my head. But I remember the. No, not that. That's it for something. Go ahead. But yeah, they take out the helicopter and. Then we get the second part of the chase scene with the. Little itty bitty pickup truck. Little itty bitty pickup truck.
01:12:37
Speaker
and the semi-truck, which still is just that whole thing of he just keeps coming. And this is the only part of the movie that, not then, because this is the bad part about having
01:13:04
Speaker
these like 4K remasters and Blu-ray movies and ultra-high-def TVs. So the ending scene where the truck tips over and Arnold Schwarzenegger rolls off in a ball, back then it looked really good.
01:13:30
Speaker
because we didn't know any better because our TV sucked. I remember growing up watching this on a TV that was probably, I think the TV we had in the living room was 27 inch. No, it wasn't 27 inches. It was bigger than that. I think it was 32 inches.
01:14:00
Speaker
But it was also back then, so, you know, aspect ratios like four, three, 16 by nine. Because I can know how you like your monitor now is rectangular and it's long at the top and the bottom. Yeah. So back then TVs were square. Mm hmm. They were just a little bit wider than they were tall.
01:14:30
Speaker
Yeah. Wait. So you say yours was like, however big, like how, how big is that in comparison to like our TV? So our TV that we have, we have a 70 inch TV. Yeah. 70. It was a 30. And the one that we had growing up was 30. That's like trying to watch TV on an iPad. Oh yeah.
01:14:59
Speaker
But like I said, back then, 30 inches, 32 inches was big. Well, and also. So like the TV that we had then we have what it's called a console TV where it was a TV. So the screen was in the center and then there were speakers on the side. And it was in a wooden enclosure.
Nostalgic TV Anecdotes
01:15:28
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
01:15:29
Speaker
Um, it's probably a little bit, was probably a little bit smaller across than my desk. And they weighed about 600 pounds. I mean, they were massive. Um, and they, they stood up, but they stood up to a lot and they lasted forever. Um, like,
01:16:00
Speaker
the one that we had stood up to grandma throwing up, throwing a skill from across the living room. What? Did I never tell you that story? No. So me and your other two, my other two brothers, I don't know what we were doing. We were just driving your grandmother nuts over something and
01:16:30
Speaker
My dad was he was on a cruise and mom got so mad that she threw a skillet that she had just bought. Oh, my God. She threw it across the living room at the TV and barely missed the screen by about two inches. Damn.
01:17:00
Speaker
And when that skillet hit the TV, it was like, scatter! And we all left to hide in our rooms. We were done. Yeah, we were done. And because we also knew that, like, if mom had messed up and had hit the TV, that we were going to probably go without TV for a while because she wasn't going to go get a new one. Mm hmm. So, yeah, mom threw a skillet at the TV.
01:17:26
Speaker
And she used that skillet for a long time and it had a dent in it. And we knew where that dent came from that it was from us. So, but, you know, when we watched that movie, then it was on TV with low resolution, small screens, um, on VHS. So it wasn't very clear.
01:17:55
Speaker
And now when you watch it on Blu-ray or high def on a 70-inch screen, that scene does not hold up because just you can see the matte paintings. You can see where they have tied cables to the truck to help
01:18:23
Speaker
pull it and it just doesn't hold up. It still looks rad though. It does, especially where the liquid nitrogen spills out and the terminator gets stuck and then freezes and then Arnold Schwarzenegger blows it to pieces.
01:18:48
Speaker
I still find it funny how they had that dynamic of it messing up its composition and stuff, like how it could not function normally after that. Yeah, I like that, too. And I never. I never really. It's kind of hard to pick up on. Yeah. And that's that's another thing about watching these movies is. Even now, I watch movies and I pick up on things I never picked up on before.
01:19:18
Speaker
partly because either I just never thought about it that way, or I just missed it. And I never really picked that up until we watched it. I was like, oh, that makes sense. So we get the final brutal fight scene between the T-1000 and the T-800.
01:19:47
Speaker
that fight scene is absolute insanity. Because they just destroy each other. It is bad. But what I like about it is that... I'm trying to get how I want to put it.
01:20:19
Speaker
It makes Arnold Schwarzenegger look vulnerable at the same time, but it also so gives him that dignity of he's going to keep going because he's like, I'm not going to stop because I have this mission to complete. And. Another thing I didn't notice, too, until we saw it this time, because
01:20:49
Speaker
Like I said, when we watched it, it was low resolution. I really, finally, fully understand this time. This time we watched it. How? Because you get the scene at the end because so the two terminators duke it out. Arnold Schwarzenegger shuts down. Robert Patrick's like, OK, I'm going to go get John and I'm going to mimic his mom. Mm hmm. And
01:21:20
Speaker
When John sees his mom and then you get the real Linda Hamilton coming around the corner and you see John looks down and you can see that the fake Linda Hamilton
01:21:43
Speaker
you know, is like mishmash feet and all that jazz. Like, oh, that makes sense how he could figure out how it's not her. Yeah. And they have the final fight because Terminator turns himself back on. He's like, I'm going to beat the crap out of him. He comes up over on that big chain with the grenade launcher and launches one at him and
01:22:14
Speaker
Drops drops his ass into the multi-metal Yeah, which is that like whole screaming shit. Oh my oh my gosh So that petrified me. Well, the crazy thing is, you know how they made that sound That is They took audio of the screams of the director And then ran him through
01:22:44
Speaker
a synthesizer and like mess with it. Oh, that was so much fun. Yeah. Make it sound weird as if possible. And then you get the scene at the end, the final scene where the terminator is like, OK, I have to destroy myself, too, but I can't self terminate.
Emotional Ending of 'Terminator 2'
01:23:09
Speaker
Can't self terminate.
01:23:13
Speaker
That always makes me teary eyed. It does. It gets me too, because it's. You can tell that. John has grown. Attached attached. Mm hmm. And that. He doesn't want it to end this way, he's like, you know, he he almost I almost wonder if John kind of knows
01:23:41
Speaker
It's not going to end here. It's going to keep happening. And I that he needs somebody to stay with him, but he knows he has to do it. So they lower him in. You get the iconic as he burns up, he gives a thumbs up. And the movie's over. Yeah. And I like that it ends
01:24:10
Speaker
there that there's no you do get that little bit of a thing at the end with Sarah Connor talking about you know the future is not written and it's gonna you know things can keep happening but I like I like that ending I think it it does well for the movie I will say though like
01:24:36
Speaker
how how attached he is like to like and how he was like so bummed like it doesn't make sense in the second or in this not the second movie that is the second movie in the third movie with the weird woman terminator like how their relationship is so different it's just weird I think
01:25:07
Speaker
Um, part of that is, um, because in the third move, and that is on our, is that on our list? I don't know. I don't know when they came up. 2003. Oh, so that's, that's still on our, on our limit. Yep. So that's going to have to go on our list because
01:25:36
Speaker
In that movie, I think you've got two things going. One, so you get to this point where you get past the original date of when it's supposed to be Judgment Day. Yeah. And he thinks that everything's okay, but his life is like right then, right at that point, it's like his life sucks.
01:26:02
Speaker
Because that's where he starts off that, you know, he's living on the streets, off the grid, he's, you know, doing day jobs. But he also knows that things are supposedly over. But now, all of a sudden, he's thrown back into his like, I thought we were done, I thought we fixed this. So I think that's why you get a little bit of that adversarial relationship, because
01:26:33
Speaker
At the end of this movie, John's like, OK, this is done. We are done. I don't have to do this anymore. I have to worry about it. And all of a sudden in the third movie, he's like, you know, after, you know, the last time we did this, you said we were done. Mm hmm. So that's going to be something we'll have to talk about when we do that movie, which I want to put that on the list because it's not on there. I will tell you, there's another. Oh, oh, so I'm so glad that comes out that is
01:27:03
Speaker
over the limit. We don't talk about Terminator Salvation. As far as I know, it doesn't exist. It's like the Avatar movie. That didn't happen. It doesn't happen. It literally is just... I don't even know how long that movie is. It's an hour and 55 minutes. It's just like Gone with the Wind. It's an hour and 55 minutes. I'll never get back. Right. Which... That movie's not on our list. I don't know that I want to put you through that.
01:27:32
Speaker
Please don't. Whiny girl. Yeah.
Next Episode Announcement: 'The Mask'
01:27:39
Speaker
So now we have to, because we're going to rate all these movies and figure out if they're good or not. We're rating on zero to 10. We're going to do actors and acting, the soundtrack of the movie, the plot, and it doesn't hold up.
01:28:02
Speaker
And by that means, like, I'm trying to think of a good movie to describe it. Sorry, go on. I was just seeing something. What? No. Okay. So as I was saying, like, you know, this, this movie doesn't exist, by the way, I'm going nuts. Terminator Salvation has a, has a really kind of scary cast. Christian Bale as John Connor, a girl.
01:28:32
Speaker
Um, there's this girl named Kate, played with Bryce Dallas Howard, and then Helena Bonham Carter as someone else. Wait, she's in that movie? Yes. That's insanity. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to think, so, okay, so the ratings, actors and acting, the soundtrack, the plot, does it hold up? And I'm trying to think of a good movie.
01:29:02
Speaker
Um, what do you mean you're trying to think of a good movie? What I mean is so by saying, does it hold up? I'm not saying like, um, like there are old movies that they don't hold up to today in terms of like effects or things like that. Like in general, or like how the plot is like, there's some movies that.
01:29:31
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They may not hold up. I guess I can't describe it. But so we're going to do filmmaking, which is, you know, is it a good movie filmmaking wise? Like, you know, I know that if we watch a movie from like the 50s or the 60s that the effects then
01:29:58
Speaker
aren't going to be up to the caliber of effects today. But, you know, for the time does it or for the movie as a whole, you know, as a filmmaking good and then just the overall experience. So overall, how do you feel about the movie? Yeah. So the actors in the acting
01:30:23
Speaker
in Terminator 2, zero to 10, 10 being fantastic and zero being, they all suck. For me, I'd say that's a seven. I would almost argue an eight. Well, I'll go with an eight too. Because Robert Patrick, you look at what he puts into his character,
01:30:55
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Linda Hamilton, what she puts into hers, um, Jill Morton, what he puts into Miles Dyson, um, all of the, and you get all these other little bit actors too, like, um, the, the, the nasty, um, orderly. I mean, he's just so perfect. Also like, you know,
01:31:21
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Like all like like you said about all the work all the people put in, like Linda, Linda, Linda Hamilton worked like worked out three hours for like six days a week filming that. Yeah. And the guy I cannot recall names for more than like two seconds. The dude who played the T1000. Yeah, Robert Patrick. Didn't he like train to run for like days to get that one scene where he's chasing after. Yeah.
01:31:51
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that that's dedication to a character. So soundtrack now granted this movie is more score than soundtrack because there's not very many songs in it. You know in my okay, sorry, I'm like picking first between you. They did like a really good job like making like
01:32:17
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scores that fit like the under like the kind of menacing tone of the movie and like really got some of the scenes good. Right. And they knew like so the scene where he jumps a motorcycle, there's no music behind it. And that is good sound work because it's just it focuses on that scene. Yeah. So seven, eight. Yeah. Eight.
01:32:49
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Yeah, eight. Okay, plot. How does it hold up?
01:32:55
Speaker
the plot is pretty solid like throughout like and that's the thing is like you see a lot of movies nowadays who like they they struggle to stick to the plot like there's all these different subplots that go on and like there ain't like like unpath from the original point of the movie this movie does a pretty a great job of staying on the single plot yeah um
01:33:26
Speaker
I would say eight for that as well. What do you think? I'm going to say a nine. Nine? I can be talked up to a nine. I'm doing a nine. Filmmaking. Not to jump ahead on you, but the stuff that they put into this movie, I remember when we watched it, I was telling you about how some people at Los Alamos
01:33:56
Speaker
National Lab. They said that the nuclear explosion scene was the best representation they have ever seen put the film. I would have to say at least a nine. I'll put a nine for two. I'll put a nine to Zail. And they have some great sets to close the window.
01:34:29
Speaker
And then lastly, the overall experience. Overall, what do you give this movie? 10, 11, 12. We can't go 10 because of this. I don't want to give it a 10, because I think 10 is an imaginably high bar, but I could be talked into a 9. I'll go 9 too. Yeah.
01:35:00
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I mean, everything about this movie from start to finish is it's fantastic. I mean, they don't miss a beat the entire time. Honestly, like I've talked to kids at my school. Like I've been talking. I've like talked to my friends who have seen it. And like there are kids who have been like, what is that? Like, how have you not seen that movie? Oh, yeah. Because like if like if I have kids one day, they're they're not going to go without seeing it. I'll shove it down their throat.
01:35:30
Speaker
So for our first movie, I would say our banger or bomb threshold is going to be five. Terminator 2 is at 8.6. I think that's pretty good. Yeah. We'll talk about the movie that we're going to use to set our baseline for a bomb here in a minute. But one other thing.
01:35:59
Speaker
we're gonna I want to do is in each movie we're talking about who's the best actor and who's the worst. So in Terminator 2 who is the best actor? Linda Hamilton. I cannot disagree. Just the entire time she is just she
01:36:29
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I mean, she commands everything. Mm-hmm. For worst actor? Oh my gosh. I'll let you shoot that one. Okay. I don't know how to describe him other than, hey, you can't be in here. He's so bad. Mm-hmm.
01:36:54
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Because he's just like, hey, you can't be in here. And then it's his only line. And he somehow just goes, ah. It's his only line. And then he also is like, he doesn't. I mean, you and I both look at that scene, and you've got Terminator. You know, you got Arnold Schwarzenegger with a shotgun, and then you've got the T-1000 who looks like a cop with a handgun. You're like, I'm going to get down. But what does he do? No, he stands in the middle of the hallway.
01:37:23
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Mm-hmm. Like, get out of the way. So I'm going to put Pepsi Guy for right now. Pepsi Guy! I'll look and see if I can see what he's... I don't think he's credited with anything, but I'm just going to put Pepsi Guy. Mm-hmm. Oh. So the next episode in two weeks, we are going to do to establish our baseline for bombs.
01:37:53
Speaker
Oh no. 1994's James Carrey. Is it? Oh yeah, Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey Vehicle. The Mask. Oh no. I'm just going to be honest. I think I've only seen this movie twice. I haven't seen it so. Both times when it came out and I know this movie is going to be
01:38:23
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awful it is going to be horrible yeah so that's our next episode so yeah until two weeks from now we'll see you then yeah