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C2 Ep. 56 Eberron Reviewed 11
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Come hang out as we take a look at the last arc and answer your questions!
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Introduction to Eberron Renewed
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D20 radio, your game is rolling.
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Hello everybody and welcome to Eberron Renewed, an actual play RPG podcast set in the Eberron campaign setting using the Genesis gaming system. My name is Jeff. I'm Phillip. I'm Trevor.
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I'm Randy. And I'm Eric.
Review of 'The Longest Day' Arc
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And as you have probably put together since I am introducing the episode, we are not playing today. This is a reviewed episode where we're going to sit back and discuss the arc that we just finished. The long day, the longest day. I have to assume the longest day any of us, any of our characters have ever endured. Um,
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So yeah, it began with the aftermath of the previous arc. We did a full episode at Faroo's funeral. Um, and I think that so long ago, I know it's like, it's, it's, it's hard for me to even process. There was, uh, you know, what was her name that fought alongside fruit that came up and kind of spoke to me into Eris.
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uh dorla dorla that's right dorla uh kind of made her rounds making all of us really live the tragedy uh and if i was she's sticking around huh she's taking over she's staying in shard kind of taking up feru's charge
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I have to assume we'll see her again. But then post funeral we kind of go separate ways planning to get together again later and the ram is running through town demanding to know where Eris is and that sets off some alarm bells for Milo and Hob.
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and then Eris hears him asking where all of his right or is that No Eventually when we when we encounter him he demands to know where all of his first person was Milo though Yes, right wears Eris Yeah, right at first it was wears Eris and that's what Milo and ha both heard him screaming. Oh
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Uh, and then it's had, by the time we'd caught up to him on another street, he had changed his MO to where's Olive.
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Or did he just? Yes, yes. He asked specifically, you all wears olive. Okay. I didn't listen. I don't listen. What are we doing? Simultaneous to where, when Eris demanded to know from him, wears olive. Oh, that's right. Yes. Anyway, it turns into a fight. Olive gets involved. The Green Goblin shows up throwing bombs. Turns out that's Norse and Millhatch.
Session Structure and Character Motivations
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Well, that's what we do here. Then the ram is killed in passive voice, and then everything just went haywire. And so let's talk about the funeral and the fight really quickly before we move into where things just went wild. So I guess we could say the funeral and the fight were one session. We may have ended the fight at the very beginning of the next session.
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Yes, we did. Well, yeah, basically, the Ram had been dispatched during the first session, and Norsson was running away. And you also learned who it was. Right. Yeah, we left him under a street lamp as we were in the session.
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So, and then we walked away from each other for three weeks and then we came back and just decided, hey, let's take this whole thing in a new direction. Man. And none of us communicated that to each other. And yet. Yep. So, go ahead. No, go ahead. Absolutely. Okay. So the funeral, was it your intention for us to have like an entire episode, a full hour, or did we just find good avenues to go down and it went that way?
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It wasn't that I intended for the funeral slash wait to last an hour. It was more that I wanted to let you all do what you wanted with it and engage with it the way that you wanted. And, you know, I had things that I wanted like Herock, the one leading the funeral to say, and I knew it was going to take
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bit of time but if after he said his piece you all were like okay yeah that we're just done then it'd be like okay well then we'll we'll move on so it wasn't like a set thing but I knew that it would take a bit of time I wanted to be respectful to Faroo so even if you all didn't want to be but
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Think we were extremely respectful for after he died. Yes. Yes. We were admittedly not very respectful to Peru during our brief experience of him as a living being. Yeah. I mean.
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It's hard for me to imagine any of our characters would, like, hey, this guy's coming with you. You guys know about the demons, right? Okay, this is gonna be fine. Like, none of our characters could have possibly. Oh, okay, yeah. I mean, you all live in a world where a portion of history is the age of demons. I mean, sure. Sure, no, I mean, yeah, but it's like,
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ancient past. This is like a dude from the Middle Ages showing up. Okay, this is Obi-Wan Kenobi getting on board the Millennium Falcon.
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Yeah. Oh, well, the force and all that and Han Solo's like... Even though Han Solo was alive while the Jedi were... anyway. I, Jeff, currently live in a world full of invisible waves carrying information right in front of my face. But if someone looked at me and said, you know they're using those to control you, right? I would not believe them.
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Also, there's a country in this nation called the Demon Wastes. So, I mean, anyway, neither here nor there. Well, there's also a place in the United States called Death Valley here, and I'm not worried about it. In fact, it's very real and coming for all of us. This is cool. I guess it's more of the, oh, what is it? Is Occam's Razor? As are Valleys. Valleys are also real and coming for us. Is Occam's Razor, if you hear her feet think horses, not zebras?
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Yes, Occam's Razor. That's mine. I have watched House. That is Hobb's justification for being dismissive of Faroo, is we don't jump straight to demon every time something happens. May he run?
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but yeah the funeral I mean we all had a chance to talk with somebody yeah you're all based on your I wanted to discuss something because I feel like this was
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an instance, and I know we've had in the past, where Urals, especially I feel like, at least what was vocalized at the table, Haben Eris's response to the funeral and the wake was very different than what
Emotional Responses and Storytelling Elements
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I intend, like,
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The mess something was lost in the messaging. I guess is the best way to put it because you all seemed very Attacked and called out at least that's what you all had said at the table in the moment And that certainly was not my intention with anything that was going on Yeah It's just interesting to me and Milo and radar may have also felt the same way. I don't know
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I think for Hobb, or no, not for Hobb. This is absolutely Jeff. A warlike group that seems to pride themselves on their bravery or skill in battle or whatever. When she comes up and she starts with, so you're the one he saved, or did you even fight alongside him? It felt a little, a little back. Well, and I guess specifically it was Herak's eulogy.
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that I remember you having a response to because he was like looking, looking at you all and regarding you during, during a portion of it. Um, where he talked about like those that fight alongside us and things like that. Um, and at least in my brain, like I spent some time working on it. It was really fun getting to write a eulogy for an NPC because that's essentially what I, what I did before the session.
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And I was trying to get a very kind of, it's not lost on anybody that Spider-Man has been a reference point for portions of this campaign. What? Shocking. But it was supposed to be very much a, you know, great power, great responsibility, yada, yada, yada kind of thing. And not a you all did a bad thing by getting him killed. And the response seemed to be very much towards the latter than the former, I guess.
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Which is interesting. Yeah. I wish I could justify by saying I was trying to play a raw nerve, but I wasn't thinking of that at the time. I don't think that's where Eris's reaction came from. I don't think Eris felt attacked. I think Eris doesn't think any of this makes sense. Why in the world did Ferru stay behind and die? That was dumb and that doesn't make sense. And then, you know,
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Eris has a, I mean, Eris has very violent feelings towards certain people and certain, and anyone really who threatens her or her friends. But Eris is not a physically brave person. And Eris really sees absolutely nothing romantic in fighting. And so Eris, Eris thinks these people are crazy.
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uh because Eris's read on what went down with Faroo is we really really screwed this one up by just bad luck and you know well bad rolls but you know um not
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in Eris's mind, obviously. This job went very sideways and Faroo got killed. And here come these people talking about the nobility and honor of Faroo's death. And to Eris, that's just no, there's nothing
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There was nothing pretty or noble about this. Faroo got killed because everything went wrong. Faroo got killed, not Faroo died for us. That sort of thing is Eris's thinking. And to her, it's at least in part her fault. And that's why she said it. She didn't say it because she thought anyone was blaming her. She said it because she thinks it's her fault. She screwed this up and it forced her to lock a dude in a room with a monster.
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Milo, Reynard, thoughts on funeral, wake, messaging. I don't think it went poorly for Reynard. I thought Reynard had a lovely wake. Yeah, I thought Milo had a good wake also. Was it Milo that Dorla spoke to more afterwards? I'm trying to remember who she, because I know initially she cornered Hob, or was it
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It wasn't Milo. I know she went back and talked to Eris because. Oh, about about the what she's going to be looking for. Yeah, it was Eris because Eris got up and walked out. I recall now. So, yeah, not because of that, but yeah, because Dorlo wanted to talk about the people. Eris remembers who liked to talk about fighting. Eris doesn't want to talk about those people. Yeah. So, OK.
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All right. Um, like I said, if I remember correctly, uh, just kind of rolled into us dispersing to various places and yeah, let's talk fight. It was a, it was a wild one. Um, yeah. And this is second session in a row where a, uh, a notable NPC that I had much bigger plans for got killed. So let's high hopes for the one that we're about to play.
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Well, in fairness, we provided an opportunity for you to unkill him, sort of. And you beefed the roll, Trevor. No, that's what I mean, is by beefing the roll, we provided you an opportunity to unkill as well. Yeah. Okay, so it began with
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Milo and Hobb on the street in the path of the Ram. Reynard back a bit there and then all of a sudden Eris comes in on Tasha and just blasts him out of this off the ground.
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Yeah, and I think wasn't Milo in the car with Eris because Milo went to get Eris. Yes. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, Milo wasn't with me by that point and And so it was just it was four on one as it has been in the past first for a moment and then all have joined first mm-hmm and then
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mysterious a mysterious figure in goblin in goblin on a dark dargul armor came in on a i'm gonna get it wrong again on a sore sled nailed it every time i want to say sell sword every time or board sword for some reason has come out more than once which is dope um a sword a sled and
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Did you have in the back of your mind, not even the back of your mind, did you have an intention of getting a big bomb to go off the whole time? Or were you saying, okay, if there's a sufficient amount of threat, we're going to do this? Yeah, so essentially his attacks are one thing, but he also had
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items that I had done some crafting rules on to see how well he constructed essentially grenades that he could use. The thing that hit Reynard was like a ranged attack, so it was a little bit different in terms of the role.
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Um, but you know, I had those and I kind of knew if a lot of threat or despair show up, then something, something is going to happen that messes up the structure of sharn essentially. Cause I'm throwing bombs in a city built out of ancient towers. Like it's not a good idea. Sure. I thought it was really, really funny that mere days after we had this fight where.
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I rolled the highly improbable result of crippling one of Eris's limbs. There was an extremely long conversation on our Discord about how Eris needed to have some sort of bionic arm. That was just. That was deeply amusing, so. They sensed it, apparently. Evidently, yeah.
In-Person vs Remote Gameplay
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Yeah, no, I mean the fight was the fight was fun to do. The RAM was a fun a fun NPC antagonistic NPC that had a lot of baggage with the party over the past couple of encounters. So I was excited to bring him back into the fracas with kind of, you know,
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further confusing intentions, because you all met the Ram in the fighting ring, and then met him again under the employ of House Deneth coming after Hob, and now this time, at least initially coming after Eris, but then, oh wait, coming after Olive. So, yeah, I was excited to continue weaving that intriguing tapestry that is the Ram. And I did not want
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because the Ram is an established figure, so unlike the lizard fight, I wasn't gonna give him like two initiative turns or anything like that, so I knew I needed to bring somebody else into the fight just to keep things from getting to one-sided. So yeah, the decision to finally unveil Norse and Millhatch's, quote unquote, final form,
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There's a couple other people in my bag that I was thinking about pulling out, but it seemed like the right time to unveil him. But yeah. Okay, so let's do some questions about the first session before we move into the second session. The bulk of them are kind of on the same topic, but it is one I'm kind of jazzed to talk about. This was the first time that we all got to be around a table together again.
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The irony, of course, being we're going to talk about how great that was while we're all remote this time. After the first session, we only had a couple of questions. The first one being from Shelby. Shelby asks, I remember Jeff being so new to RPGs during campaign one. It was kind of neat to see him take initiative to the rules in the opening fight near the bar. Jeff, do you feel more comfortable with these rules than you did with, say, 5E, or do you think it's just natural progression as a gamer?
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I think it's both. I will say this. The way the talents are structured in Genesis are a lot easier for me to remember than little boosts I've gotten along the way as decks. The trees make it kind of easy. The fact that I only have
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What? I have two, four, six, eight, 10, 12. I have 14 talents. And some of them are just extensions like tough and level two, tough and level three. It's just my ram's not great and my ram.
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My ability to access the things that are supposed to be in my memory is not always great. And so the fewer of them there are, the better. And I think that might be why I seem more confident because I remember more things. Basically, if it wasn't written down like plus X on my character sheet in D&D, I forgot I had it. So I think it's that.
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And then Shelby goes on to ask, isn't it great being back around the table? You guys sound so jazzed.
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We absolutely were. I mean, I think I had seen Eric twice in the last calendar year, Randy zero times, Phillip zero times, Trevor once or twice, maybe, like, you know, cause Trevor and I still live in Shawnee, so we could sit on a patio or something. But we went to lunch and caught up and played games and it was great. And I will let any of the rest of you talk now, cause I've rambled.
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agreed. I mean, yeah, same. It was very, very nice to play around the table. I enjoyed the. There's a lot of there's a lot of different energy playing around the table, and it's. I think unadulteratedly better. Yeah, yeah. From a from a gaming standpoint, absolutely, it's it's better to to be, especially for Genesis, it's better to be around the table. It's a lot more fun to
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have the large handful of chunky dice and throw them and get to figure out what you rolled. Everybody leaning over and trying to read them together is kind of fun. The first session that we played, the one that we're currently talking about, we also got to witness Trevor putting on makeup, his drag makeup for the latter half of the session. But no, it was just...
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Go ahead, Jeff. I have a fantastic picture of me and Trevor. He's rolling dice and about, I think he told me later, distressingly to me, he was like an eighth of the way through the makeup applying process. But there's already so much! It's like Peyton the house. Hey Trevor, do you mind that we talk about this and put it out for broadcast? No. Okay, I just want to make sure. Google follow me on Instagram, dpattyburay.
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You know what? Plug your stuff, Trevor. Spell it out. Or don't, I guess. What? Z-T-H-E. Patty. P-A-T-T-Y. Bure. B-O-U-R-E-Y. All one word. I thought you were going to leave Bure as the one that, of course, you know how to spell Bure. Yeah. You sure that wasn't Booyah? I don't need to spell the pun on a dance move that it took my friend Jeff, who knows dance stuff.
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30 times hearing it before he picked it up. It's okay. That's a joke is I don't dance when I'm in drag so. But yeah and this was Trevor's first time playing around a table for this specific show obviously back in the
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Back in the old days with the original geek pantheon six years ago, but Yeah, whenever only four dice Irene Irene wants to know what we missed most about gaming around the table. I think we've kind of covered it, but I want to make sure yeah each other yes being around other people while playing and playing as a social activity and It's not as good on the screen
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Being able to look into Randy's eyes as he slowly does the most insane thing that I've ever considered Or or or or Or describe setting someone's blood on fire like he did. Yeah Horrifying things it was just you know, the energy bouncing around the room it doesn't happen online like we play off of each other's
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words when we're remote and we play off of each other's energy when we're together. And it obviously makes for a, I don't want to say better. It's a different product. Well, and I think, and I, I way back when, um, did a video on the YouTube channel, uh, about gaming online. And I think a big thing that I still fall into that isn't present when you're physically around a table is it's, you're much more present all of the time.
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like you pick up on what everybody's doing all the time because you don't have a screen that you're glancing over at, you don't, you're less likely to look at your phone, stuff like that. And so just like for me being that present and hearing what everyone's doing all the time is a joy and yeah, so.
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I know that's a me problem, but you know. And then Shelby asks, um, was there anything that we liked about remote play versus table play? The audio editing so much easier from production standpoint. This is so much easier, but, um, not a thing. I don't know that this falls under liked about, but I do think there was one benefit to us starting this campaign remotely. And that is.
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The program that we use, which is called RPG Sessions, calculates the dice for you, but still shows you every dice. So for those of us that weren't as familiar with the symbols, I think we kind of osmosed quite a bit before we had to start counting them on our own. Yeah. For never having done it before, Trevor picked up dice calculation very quickly.
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It's true compared to how long it took me just on a table doing it cold. Obviously, the rest of us had that marathon session with Chris where we got some experience with the Star Wars dice. But no, and I think that is part of it is that the online tools assisted in kind of getting a familiarity before you had to look at the table and do it. But no, all of my pluses are from a production standpoint, not an actual playing the game standpoint.
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Not like it was torture to play remotely. It was certainly better than not playing. No, I don't mean that at all. There is nothing I prefer about this to being around the table with you guys. Absolutely. Big agree there.
Character Development and Story Arcs
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I have to do less picking up before these sessions.
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And strangely, I had to do more to have laundry in the background. And I include that with the driving because, yes, like there's something very nice about my drive is almost exactly the right length to listen to the last arc. So get in the car, put the last arc on the last arc ends. I'm arriving at Eric's house and I'm ready to go. Yeah.
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Pretty great. The last question, because Milo did all this stuff in the fight, is Darren. We'd like to know from Randy, and you may not be able to answer this, I don't know. Do you already know the source of Milo's powers? Are you letting Eric decide, can you talk about it at all? The last bit was my bit. I think that Milo thinks it's somehow coming from his wife.
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Randy himself. I don't know Eric maybe he knows Eric's decision I Think so. I mean Milo assumes he had no magic ability of any kind whatsoever until his wife died and he takes the the little cross brace of the stool that becomes a wand and
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And he just assumes it's from his dead wife. Sure. If you would like to have a conversation with Philip about the consequences of letting Eric take control of the source of your powers. Especially when there's a voice in your head involved. You may want to do that off mic.
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Eric, do you have anything to say to that? And it was a question for Randy, but... There are thoughts and plans in action, but obviously nothing that I'm ready to spill the beans on to either the listeners or Randy. Well, it's Spider-Man, so obviously... See, I knew he was already plotting. No, one specific part of this story is heavily influenced by Spider-Man. Not all of them. No, I know, I know, I know.
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But no, I just like the idea of a three foot venom.
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Oh, the idea of Milo and Kylie's mind melting into a we, like we are. I think that Milo is inherently too pleasant to turn into like a bad guy like Venom does, you know, like he'd be Venom, but he'd still be like, it'd be like Peter Parker, where, you know, it's just a bit more violent, it's not full Venom, it's just, you know, a darker Milo.
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One that says people's blood dances down the street like regular Milo would never do. Milo is still figuring things out, at least in my head. He casts something, he's not entirely sure.
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what's gonna happen, you know, the hand, you know, the black hand comes down and... And that absolves some of all wrongdoing. If you don't know what the gun's gonna do, you're at no fault when you shoot it. Exactly. Yeah. Eris is cool with that idea. Anyway. Okay. Forward. Stay tuned. So the immediate aftermath of the fight
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We're moving on to the next session. So this is again, we, three weeks later, we get together to play again. And in the interim, I had decided that for some reason that the combination of Faroo's funeral and kind of losing himself a bit and just really destroying this Ram as mess Hobbs, I mean, Hobbs going through a trauma response, basically. I spent a lot of time learning about chemical burns.
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So yeah, the immediate aftermath is the police show up and we decide if we need to run from there or not. Hob always run from the police because he has to and Milo decided he probably needed to as well.
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Eris and Raynard go with the police because of Raynard. I mean, Eris, I think, felt this too initially, but Raynard was like, we literally didn't do something wrong right now. And some bad things were happening. This is one time. The one time we didn't do anything wrong. Yeah. And Hob and Milo hide at
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Grigio. Grigio. I kept one. Or Giorgio. It was kind of in my head. It's Grigio's. Grigio, dollar by the slice. Because there is a local pizza place that also makes a mean gyro in Shawnee called Giorgio's. Anyway.
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Hob drags the ram in and it's just like, fix them, fix them.
Narrative Surprises and Moral Reflections
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And we'll get to that. So yeah, so let's talk about the police scene. That was unexpected from a DMing standpoint. You thought we were all going to run? It was all off my butt was that scene. Which explains why you were furiously writing everything down. You're like, OK, I've got to be I've got to be an investigator now, I guess. Well, I mean, like,
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You all are talking to the cops. They're going to keep a record of what you said. So I need to have a record of what you said. Sure. So yeah, I was we mentioned the episode, but I was every time I asked Eris or Raynard a question, I was frantically writing everything down that they were telling the police. But yeah, no, all of that was made up. The the dwarf investigator
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Yeah, it was just off the cuff, which was fun to kind of explore that and then Raynard using one of his roles to say that there was an established dynamic there. It was a fun added wrinkle. So, yeah. Yeah, and so, OK, just so I'm clear, you showed up to the police station as Raynard, but dirty.
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And when you cleaned yourself up, you came out as Drannier. You look different enough that it should have been like, hang on, something weird happened. I think in Trevor's head, it was like, Chim Chimery, Chim Chim Cheroo level of black, like hair sticking out, like soot everywhere. Fully if I'm correct, Trevor. Yeah, well, I mean, and also that scene in Harry Potter where Harry Potter has like the bulbous face, but still looks exactly like Harry Potter and like, hmm.
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Oh, sure. And then he turns back into Harry Potter, but less chubby. And yeah, he sure is still him. So it was just look different enough to to have that be a passable moment, I guess, of of coming out and being. Trying to use at least the. The way Dranier looked and presented himself to his advantage. I mean, there's so much to talk about. Yeah.
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Let's just. OK, we need we need to we need to overload the the last like. Forty five minutes of this entire. Yeah, so yeah, that's where the meat is. OK, so we're going to. So yes, the policing happens at one point, Verla comes by and I got to use my my big town, my highest tier talent so far. Try to argue with Eric about the semantic things that I knew I didn't was wrong going in. I just wanted to see what happened.
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And then each of us makes a plan. None of us explains our plan together. Hold on, hold on. First, three of us made a plan.
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Before the plans are executed though, Raynard does go to grigios to try to resurrect the ram that happens before all that's right Yes, Raynard goes to grigios to try to resurrect the ram. It does not work failed There's a substantial amount of threat and it's the same amount of threat and we'll go and say it cuz it doesn't really I mean It's the end of this story in this arc. He does come back to life at the end something and
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Something, the Rams body is animate at the end. Shelby did mention like me spilling the beans on the Ram. Um, so what's, what's really interesting. And one thing that I love about running games and just tabletop role-playing in general is how vast, how hard your plans could get thrown out the window.
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And you, Jeff mentions like in between these two sessions, doing some introspection and coming back with Hob being like devastated by his actions and killing the Ram. And this whole time I had a plan for the Ram. Um, I was a man with a plan for the Ram and I was going to have it occur early on in our following session. That was the big thing that I was like planning and trying to figure out the Norse and Mill hatch stuff was secondary.
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It's like, how do I pull off this ram stuff? Because this whole time, at least initially, the ram was a dude in a suit.
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that was just like a mech, essentially. And it was all a lie. Not somebody that survived the morning, not a war hero. It was all manufactured to be a fighting ring star and a mercenary. And I was going to have that reveal because, oh no, the chassis is broken. And so either you all were going to catch him in the act of like,
00:35:52
Speaker
Initially, I thought, like, if the ram was face down, like, you turn around and the ram's body is twitching because the hatch on the chest can't open under the weight of the ram's body. Or if I wanted him to get away, you turn around and the chassis is open and they're scurried off. But once we got around the table and Jeff was explaining the emotional state hub was in, I was like, I don't want to
00:36:19
Speaker
like ruin that completely and totally and so completely threw that out the window because that would have sucked from a narrative standpoint for Hobbs journey in his story but that was
00:36:34
Speaker
What what's compelling me to say this is Shelby said spill the beans about ram and this is me spilling the beans that I'm willing to spill about the ram is that originally he was a he was a dude in a suit that had a little fog machine that would spray gray mist and it was all yeah, it was all a ruse a wizard behind the curtain kind of thing and
00:36:55
Speaker
In between sessions, it all became real. All the stuff that we have heard about the Ram is true now. He was a war hero, he did survive the morning, all that stuff because of the fact that he got killed in this encounter and Hob took it hard. So. Man, we would have stopped being PG-13 in the degree to which we would have killed that person. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh my goodness.
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah, I will. So I'm glad you changed that. I wish that I could remember the original impetus for why I wanted Hob to be a little broken by what he had just done. It was a combination of a lot of things. You know, Hob always has on his shoulders how
00:37:51
Speaker
a fear of disappointing, even Raynard. And with the things that he's done in the last however long this campaign has been in real time or in story time. He's got Dennis on their backs now, that's on him. Drash, he's about to be on their backs, that's on him.
00:38:11
Speaker
for his funeral was 24 minutes earlier and then all of a sudden he's just kind of snapped a little bit and I tried to make the way he killed him seem brutish jumping up and down on his chest until he was dead like that ain't Hob
00:38:28
Speaker
And from that, tried to do this thing and I didn't play it well. Listening back on it, I heard about 10,000 things I could have done better, but that's what you do when you listen. Yeah, that is the very nature of recording this. Well, I appreciate it because I know that something that I
00:38:51
Speaker
don't do a good job. Oh, those are words. I don't do a good job of both on behind the screen or on the other side when I'm playing a character of like conveying the weight of killing things is something that I feel like has lost a lot of times when we're playing games like this, because, you know, like,
00:39:14
Speaker
even animals like I would have a visceral reaction if I killed an animal like and in tabletop games oftentimes because you know we don't want to have to deal with the emotional repercussions of taking the life of another creature you don't uh but you know hob killed somebody and that's a big and has hob killed anybody in this
00:39:35
Speaker
campaign yet. We did we kill some of the ravers that attacked us in the under city or the lower city. I did. Hob didn't. Hob. The only thing that Hob did to remove anybody from that fight was his heroic ability, which is not a killing blow. Like the only the only ones in fiction that like at least based on what you all have shared at the table that should have at least some
00:40:05
Speaker
Easiness with with taking life is probably Reynard with House of Elarne because they do some shady stuff and Aeris might just be to the point of that Being a detached thing. I don't know but I guess Hob Hob has killed people when it was the only way to keep himself alive Yeah, yes, but this was not that situation either. I don't think yeah, I don't think the Ram wanted Hob dead he might now whatever is the Ram now might now but I
00:40:35
Speaker
But anyway, so I appreciated that because that's something that I'm trying to do also on both sides of the screen when I'm at a table is give weight to the idea of killing because that's a big thing for most people. I think there's some psychological terms for if it's not, but we won't.
00:40:59
Speaker
all right uh so let's just take each of these since we really did just straight up split out so let's take each one individually let's start with the one that that took all of us i think the most by surprise and that would be our friend reynard calling up his buddy basil and just okay you you two you two did it you guys talk about it bring me peter pan
00:41:32
Speaker
Um, I mean, Trevor, talk us through, I mean that, that surprised me also, you know, that line of action. So I, I think right now I was just fed up. It's like, man, between the lizard monster and the green goblin and.
00:42:06
Speaker
Listen, the goblin that is wearing green armor. He's not wearing green armor. I made it very clear the armor's not green. Oh, did you? Yes. All we have to do is say that neither of those G's are capitalized and we're in the clear, guys. Those words are public domain. I think right now we're just fed up with all the problems this man's causing. Yeah. What made you think that, what made Raynard think that Basil was, I guess, the best avenue?
00:42:23
Speaker
There's just too many messes.
00:42:37
Speaker
Uh, because he's still part of a house. And I felt like there was the help he could offer. I had something, Raynard had something to barter to get it. So I thought it would be the most fruitful avenue for Raynard to go, go down.
00:43:04
Speaker
Okay, yes. It may turn out to not be, but... To be clear, I fully expected Raynard to go to Basel and say, okay, I'll do the job for you because obligation needs to be dealt with. The Raynard, or the Norsin part is what, like, really on my heels, which is awesome. Well, if you don't know by now, Raynard's not gonna do something without getting something out of it, even if it is going back and begging for forgiveness, so...
00:43:31
Speaker
Please forgive me, but I need something in return. I mean, that is Pete Reynard, like, absolutely. Ain't nobody gonna say, that's really out of character for him. I'm asking for a preemptive repayment. Those are, we call that a favor.
00:43:51
Speaker
But if you do this thing for me, I'll make up the last thing. Yeah, exactly. Well, I guess you want to you want to just talk about the entirety of the Rainard Basil conversation now, Jeff, even though. Yeah, I figure we just. Yeah, let's just split into the four things and then we'll come back together and answer questions to you.
00:44:12
Speaker
So, yeah, this was once we got going into the conversation after the Norse and Millhatch drop, it was kind of easy for me because I was able to just be like, OK, let's look at my notes from two sessions ago when we were in the office and conversation I was planning on having then. And we're good. So, yeah, I mean,
00:44:38
Speaker
Trevor, you can go and speak on your half of the conversation and from Raynard's perspective and what Basil kind of dropped on Raynard. I mean, I guess it was pretty expected. Yeah. It's just the relationship is very back and forth like you do this for me or it is for you. You have to do this to get this. So I expected some kind of obstacle and
00:45:08
Speaker
You know? It seems like a pretty easy gig, but I doubt it's going to be. Well, and something that I did want to play with was the familial dynamics at play, because Basil's obviously your cousin. And in the little flashback that we did, he was very antagonistic towards Raynard and kind of the third wheel amongst Raynard and Alastair and
00:45:37
Speaker
I wanted to kind of flip that, um, a bit and have Basil be a much more sympathetic figure towards Reynard's plight than I think even Reynard or you as Trevor expected, um, compared to, compared to the more immediate members of Reynard's family who did the actual removal of his station. Um, so. Yeah. Um, it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out though, with dad and brother coming back into the picture.
00:46:07
Speaker
So, is Raynard's mom alive? We've just never brought her up. I think we have. Have we? Or maybe I had thought about that ahead of time, but yes. Okay. Noted. And she's far more sympathetic to Raynard than any other family member. Okay, well let's just take it down. Noted. She just always gives him everything he wants.
00:46:36
Speaker
Maybe in another life. Ponies, industrialists. Okay. Okay. Let's move on to another one. Randy gets to go last. For sure. So Phil, do you want to go ahead and talk about what Eris did and what the decision she has made?
00:46:59
Speaker
Yeah, decisions he's made, that's a decision, right? What's the decision that we're talking about? To make a secret lab, to collab with all of more. Yeah. So I was trying
00:47:20
Speaker
carefully and without overdoing it to play Eris as both probably still dealing with physical shock to a certain degree and also getting rather tipsy. And I
00:47:37
Speaker
I don't think this played quite well in audio, but when Aeris comes back down from her nap and Ulfin says she went to get started on the thing you guys talked about, and I played Aeris as giving him a blank look, I was trying to play that as Aeris doesn't know what he's talking about. And I don't know if it came across quite that well in audio, but
00:48:11
Speaker
And then he clarified the secret lab, right? Yeah. In front of everyone. Yeah, I mean, Olive suggests, Eris suggested a bunch of ways in which she could try to help Olive with Olive's problem. Because Eris doesn't know what all of this means for Olive since now there's a mad industrialist attacking Olive.
00:48:38
Speaker
And Olive suggested the idea of setting up somewhere else and included Eris in that. From Eris's perspective, I don't know how real it is to Eris yet because I was thinking on it afterward and I frankly think I underplayed
00:49:03
Speaker
the weight that that suggestion would have to Eris because Eris hasn't had a place that's hers in any sense of the word since she was a preteen. So the suggestion, hey, come live in this place and it will be
00:49:27
Speaker
your as much yours as mine is probably not something that sank
Community Engagement and Role-Playing Dynamics
00:49:31
Speaker
in with Eris. I think probably what Eris heard is will set me up somewhere and you can come and hang out there in the way that you did at my old classroom. It'll be fine. So I don't know that I don't know the weight of that really sank in with Eris in the state that she was in. And so we'll I think have to see how that how that plays out.
00:49:55
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, all of inviting Eris to move in with her will eventually be enormous to Eris in a lot of ways. But yeah, I think in the moment with everything else happening, I think some of that is lost on Eris as we were playing it.
00:50:29
Speaker
Okay. And I've lost the, there it is. Okay. So Hob, uh, just wanted to, couldn't fix the thing you really wanted to fix, knew there were other problems and in a very, what is, what is a kind of typical, uh,
00:50:51
Speaker
reaction for somebody going through what Hobbes going through, he decides to do the thing he can do. And he calls Narn and says, let's go down to the cogs, buddy. And I made a joke. I don't know that he actually had a hat. Because I talked with Eric. It's canon. Yeah, he had a sensible hat.
00:51:10
Speaker
I talked with Eric, I can't remember if I made the episode or not, but I originally asked if I could resolve a couple of things in a cold open, because my thought was, if we can't bring the Ram back to life, Boomerush knows someone who can. He can take credit for bringing the Ram back to life and potentially get a very, very big, strong, angry employee to do some of his bounty in for him.
00:51:36
Speaker
Instead, I went to the cogs and handed out flyers. Uh, no, well, roll to triumph. I think that, I mean, it did ultimately lower my obligation a bit. It ain't done, apparently, but that's better. That's good. Um, and Hob still thinks that he has the body of the ram to say, hey, boom rush, if you can,
00:52:00
Speaker
bring this guy back to life, I bet you he'd be happy to work for you. You may not bring him back to life under terms of slavery, but you can.
00:52:08
Speaker
You know, I would be willing to work for a reasonable wage at a job I was already doing for somebody if they literally revived me. Anyway, so that's all that I did. And yes, the role, I got a triumph and therefore really doinked up Jurassic. And there were more than one comment. Thrash. Thrash. I always do it wrong and I'm always gonna.
00:52:32
Speaker
There was more than one comment about a Noel in a top hat. People like the Noel in the top hat. Aesthetic, Eric. I'm trying to go for a real Timmy Hall kind of vibe. Yeah, I know Leppard. I know she pointed it out. I'm not sure who else did, but I know Scott more than once. Where Salmon wanted to know, what are the immigration issues that Hobb would be dealing with? You regularly remind me he doesn't have the same rights as a citizen.
00:52:58
Speaker
What is the implication there? It's not specific to Breland or to Scharn. It is the Treaty of Thronehold basically in an attempt to deescalate the wartime aggressions, basically afforded protections for all legally recognized citizens of legally recognized nations that
00:53:20
Speaker
Yeah, somebody from Thrank can't kill somebody from Ondair, and law enforcement from Thrank can't arrest somebody from Ondair just for being Ondarian. However, Drowam is not a legally recognized nation, according to the Treaty of Thronehold. It's still part of Breeland, and a lot of Brelish soldiers died in conflict with Drowam,
00:53:44
Speaker
Uh, during the last war, uh, as they claimed that land. And so, you know, the, the same protections are not afforded to hob and you never know when a member of the sharn watch.
00:53:55
Speaker
was a member of the British army or had a sibling that was a member of the British army that was killed in a conflict with Joam and you know it's just yeah it's it's Hobbes not afford the same legal protections and there is the potential not the guarantee the potential for some level of prejudice against people from Hobbes nation so that's what I keep referencing is that there's not a guaranteed thing that's going to happen
00:54:21
Speaker
Um, it's just simply Hobb does not have the same baked in protections that Eris, Reynard and Milo do. Um, because, uh, Eris is also not a British citizen seat. She is from Kire. And so she is also a quote unquote immigrant, but she has afforded all of those things protections because Kire was a legally recognized nation. So, um, yeah.
00:54:51
Speaker
All right, Randy, tell the people what you did, my man. I did not do anything. Milo did it. All right. Well, I, I debated about this for a little while and wondering, like, and just thinking about Milo, his relationship with the Boromars and
00:55:20
Speaker
I mean Milo has grown up his entire life with the Boromars. I mean his family his entire life and knowing that there's a relationship there with Satan and maybe to some extent even though Milo is older there's still some
00:55:48
Speaker
naivete going on because I mean you know this guy obviously is a kingpin you know he's he's a big shot perhaps the yes and perhaps but but but he has that reputation also of not being as hardcore as most
00:56:15
Speaker
So I think from Milo's point of view, it was just to that point that he just can't fathom Satan being behind it. He just can't. It's just not in his thought process at all. And Satan may be the closest thing that Milo in his head thinks that he has as a family, other than the people he runs with.
00:56:45
Speaker
and has power. So that's why he went to Satan. He just can't fathom Satan being behind it at all. He suspects Jason. He suspects Vigo, but he's not going to throw that out there with Satan. When Satan brought up Vigo, Milo kind of deflected from that. But that's why he went to Satan in his mind. He wasn't thinking of any
00:57:13
Speaker
repercussions from that at all he was just it was just beyond it he's just like i can't figure this out i need to figure this out satan's in power so if anybody can help satan can help well and also i mean who's always looked out for milo like exactly always offered help and who's always yeah um because even i i feel like
00:57:40
Speaker
And this is if I were in Milo's position, like even the new family that Milo's established is only in his life because of Satan. Like Satan's organization put this team together, you know? So there's some weird stuff going on in that regard. I have a question about that because I feel very unclear about this.
00:58:02
Speaker
What is the actual origin of our gang? Because for a while it seemed like we had an independent gang that paid tribute to the Boromar clan, but it has increasingly sounded like we are just a crew operated by the Boromar clan. Have we just sort of evolved the idea over time? I think the idea is very nebulous and we've never as a table collectively sat down to like plant our flag in. This is the origin, like this is how you all came together.
00:58:30
Speaker
Um, but yeah, so I, I don't know. Yeah. Um, but I will say that the conversation that we had with you as Milo and me as Satan, uh, really.
00:58:45
Speaker
Like, I've never felt guilty role-playing in Anderson before, because I was starting to say some really terrible things, especially about Kylie, and you were just running with it and going, yes, that's true. And in my head, I'm like, no, what, what, what? You're not pushing, huh, huh? Why am I saying this? Yeah, but, you know, Milo still knows this is Satan. Yeah. Could it be Satan?
00:59:13
Speaker
Um so there's a timely reference for all our younger viewers. We'll totally get
00:59:20
Speaker
Dana Carvey's church lady from SNL circa 19, that was Debba. But no, that was genuinely like, I was expecting you to at least deflect those accusations more when Aya Satan was saying, well, thankfully then Kylie didn't trust you enough to tell you. And you were just like, yes, yes, it makes me question everything.
00:59:47
Speaker
That was so hard to sit through. It was wonderful. It was a really cool scene and it was really cool to listen to as well, listening back as I was this morning.
01:00:06
Speaker
Man it was just uh, this is so cruel. There's so much just Skin yeah, and I think that's part of it too is Milo was kind of taken aback a little bit of Satan being like that because I don't think that's a sight of Satan that Milo has maybe seen very much and
01:00:30
Speaker
Yeah. And I know, well, first off, just for people who don't get to see how we play at a table in the configuration, Randy and I sit on the ends of the table. So for that scene, we were able to just kind of. It was very much like we were in our places if we were like actors acting in a in a stage play where we were sitting there just locked into each other across this giant table.
01:00:52
Speaker
So that is another thing too. Yes, definitely is opposed to being like we are now. Yeah. And I will say that it. I remember early on at the like little Boromar Company get together thing, there was some disappointment at Satan's demeanor, not being more mob bossy and not being more like harsh and Satan is
01:01:23
Speaker
He's practical. He's a pragmatist. He uses people the way he needs them. And as soon as Milo starts bringing up internal accusations of theft and snitching and dark land, that switch is going to flip real quick where it's like, okay, well, now we're talking about
01:01:43
Speaker
my livelihood, my family, and so the tone is going to be different than your nephew was mean to us. I will say that when you cut Milo off that one time,
01:02:00
Speaker
Randy wanted to jump across the table. Milo, let me finish. That was, that was, yeah. Milo, let me finish. Okay! So yeah, no, that was, that was a great, oh yeah, no, like, Satan doesn't, much like a, Satan doesn't lose his temp, his temper, almost at his temperature. He never loses his temperature. He never loses that. You don't mess with the thermostat in Satan's house.
01:02:28
Speaker
in my house, in my house, 68 all day. So that's fair in height for our international group. We know you'd be cooking. It's the family sitcom. Yes. The Boromar. Vigo. So if you mess with the thermostat, I'm going to chop your hand off. You're coming to my house. That's where Vigo got it from. On the day of my daughter's wedding and you change the thermostat, you show me no respect.
01:02:58
Speaker
But yeah, so it was it was a great scene. And I mean, all of that, that entire episode, I know I've said this before in relation to this campaign, but this entire episode was just a gift as a GM in terms of the things that to run with. But no, I mean, and then and then you all came back together to debrief on what everyone did. Yeah, I will say that I thought
01:03:28
Speaker
I thought Milo was gonna get pushed back on a whole lot harder than he did at that time. People tend to temper things within their state of shock sometimes, you know, Randy? Yes. When they feel a twinge of betrayal from a trust ally. Yes. Well, and Eris was sort of half asleep and there was just a lot of, yeah. But, oh no, she's just dumbfounded.
01:03:59
Speaker
found all of her dumbs. Yeah, they're sitting around the table with her.
01:04:12
Speaker
Questions? Yeah, so let's get to some questions. So the one that I jumped earlier, because I wanted to put at the end, we'll go and do it now, it's from Ophelia. And they ask, how long do you see this game running? And how is that influencing the introduction of story beats? We are, I don't know the exact number, what do we add? 40, late 40s, early 50s right now? Mid 50s, this will be 56. Okay.
01:04:37
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's, you know, you're in the mid until like the nine. So I'm still in my mid thirties. So yeah. So mid fifties now. Yeah. Like, you know, thirty nine is late thirties. I'm still good in the mid for like six more months. Anyway. How do you have an idea of how long or do you have like a hey, man, we're going to run it till till we finish it.
01:05:06
Speaker
I mean, it's, it's one of those things where, you know, you just feel out the story and where it's going. And unlike campaign one, I have less of a
01:05:13
Speaker
a concrete, the big bads will do X when Y and then Z kind of thing going on. It's very much just letting the characters breathe, letting them naturally progress. I will say that, I mean, like I said, episode 56, first campaign went, what, 142 episodes? Something like that. I don't know if this campaign is going to hit that mark.
01:05:41
Speaker
That's not a goal to come in under 147, not including the final review. I was going to say, kids on bikes were in the 150s. I should have known that. So, you know, it's not a goal to come in under that number, but I just don't know if there's that level of story to tell and that much. And honestly, you could trim a lot of fat from campaign one and get the number down lower, but that's a different topic. So, so I'm not saying that we're nearing the end of the campaign, but
01:06:13
Speaker
We, I don't feel like we have a hundred plus more episodes in the tank. So also because I made the mistake of sharing my concept for a campaign three to the group and Phillips already talking to me about character concepts. So, um, I can't help it. It's a sickness.
Trivia and Personal Reflections
01:06:31
Speaker
Ooh. Gosh.
01:06:38
Speaker
Okay, there's one that didn't actually make it into the questions channel, but I remembered it. So Nathan Stuller asks, and we kind of touched on this a bit, but great episode today. I still don't think I understand why Hob or Jeff Fair thought it was so important to revive the Ram. And also, how does Eris feel about Hob being so concerned to fix an enemy warforged while he ignores her debilitating injury?
01:07:04
Speaker
Um, I hope I've done a good enough job of saying what was going through Hobbs brain, which was, you know, panic and like, I think we got more than this episode and in the episode since that question, but yeah. Yeah. Uh, how does Eric feel about Hobbs being concerned? How did Eric feel in that moment? Um, I think again, I think.
01:07:24
Speaker
much like Milo at the end of episode conversation. I think Hab is benefiting from Eris's state of mind, which is not fully there. I don't know that Eris
01:07:41
Speaker
I don't know that Eris put those two things together. Like Eris finds it absolutely incomprehensible that Hobb wants to revive the Ram, but I don't think she's connected it to... I don't think she's jumped to Hobb as more concerned about this thing than me. I don't think she's connected it to that.
01:08:03
Speaker
uh certainly not certainly not yet um and presumably when grigio comes back and says the thing woke up and tore the pizza place apart uh that will probably be forgotten so i i think i think hob will dodge aris's rage hob falls to the ground and screams not the slicing
01:08:27
Speaker
No, I think I said explicitly because I wanted to get it across. It may have been in the next episode. Hob didn't know the extent of the injury until after the prison scene.
01:08:38
Speaker
Yeah, I even I think I said like and the hob actually sees her arm and decides not to say anything about the Ram at that point Yeah, I think there is a that's in there which was said before this question was put in the discord Yeah, so I you and I were on the same wavelength there Nathan Stuller of Hmm. Maybe I need to justify my priorities
01:09:01
Speaker
And I mean, she was passed out, but Hobb did technically go back to the sales specifically to check on her. He just probably didn't get any credit for that because she was asleep. And by the time she woke up, we were having we were having to talk. Sure. So. OK, but so let's ask Laura's question that she sent to fill up. Where did Eris get plans for the Fletcher if she didn't come up with it? I don't want to say yet.
01:09:32
Speaker
So there it's you know, it's among the before Area of Eris's life and Eris wouldn't have said that out loud but for pain and alcohol Okay, I've said a lot of I wouldn't have said a lot of things out loud if not for pain and alcohol So Shelby asks
01:09:56
Speaker
Do we know the characters' birthdays? Are any of their birthdays coming up? And what are your characters' favorite birthday treats? And then Irene says, ditto, but for the players. My birthday's in March. Neither I nor Eris know Eris's birthday. Eris does not know her birthday. I don't know her birthday. I regret that because now I suddenly realize there's probably the implication of treats.
01:10:28
Speaker
Eris favors ginger snaps Probably I don't know
01:10:37
Speaker
Okay, my birthday is in January, so it's coming up in January. 31st, I don't know why I'm being cagey. My birthday is January 31st. And now you all know I'll be 39 too, so really we're just getting it all out there. My favorite birthday tree. What was your first car and your first job, Jeff? I just wanted to ask you a few questions out of the way.
01:10:57
Speaker
my first well my my first car i drove was a geo tracker and it was not cool yeah i had one of those for a while my first car i bought was a ford explorer and it was a big step up and also still not cool because it was old anyway uh as far as birthday treats
01:11:15
Speaker
My favorite thing, my favorite reason to acknowledge people's birthdays is if you just give me a piece of white cake and I can scrape the frosting off of it, put a scoop of vanilla ice cream on top of it and let it melt into it for a little while, there's nothing better. I was so with you until you described letting it melting into it and then I just pictured soggy sponge. You don't wait until it goes fully liquid, but you let it, you know, just a little bit so it's soft and texturally pleasing in that way.
01:11:46
Speaker
And then Hobb's birthday, I actually did give Hobb a birthday. After they asked about it, I just tripped up. Okay, since Laura's question to Philip didn't get to get answered, reasonably, fairly, I will answer. So I said Hobb's birthday is October 15th, which then Shelby told me the Eberonian equivalent of that, and I need to find it again.
01:12:14
Speaker
And then Laura asked why October 15th and I said you can ask at the end of the campaign you'll be disappointed the real reason is October 15th actually is a day that I know There's a confluence of
01:12:28
Speaker
of authors that I admire who are all born on October 15th or other thinkers. It's Nietzsche's birthday, which I think works with Hobbes for the Ubermensch idea and just the aesthetic and aesthetic philosophies. And then there is an Italian writer named Italo Calvino.
01:12:45
Speaker
who is one of my favorite writers. And he writes like postmodern magical realism. And he has this book called If On A Winter's Night A Traveler. And if you have not read If On A Winter's Night A Traveler, you should. And then the third one that I looked this up later. I didn't know this when I said it. It's Mario Puzzo's birthday, the man who wrote The Godfather. And we work for the mob. So that feels good, too. Nice. So that's why it's October 15th. Fun facts. Yep.
01:13:14
Speaker
Who's next? With birthday treats for their characters or whatever? Oh, and Hob doesn't have birthday treats. Hob never told anybody his birthday. He doesn't care. Well, my birthday is December 16th. I love everything, but if I had to pick something, it would be peanut butter cookies. Peanut butter cookies are also very good.
01:13:39
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Yeah, and Milo's birthday is the equivalent of December 16th in Eberron. Just keep it simple. Oh, I did just realize that ice cream is not a deliverable. So if we're talking deliverables, I'm more of a snickerdoodle guy. Trevor, do you know when Raynard's birthday is? Or do you know when your birthday is? My birthday is March 3rd. I'm a Pisces.
01:14:08
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And I, Raynard's birthday is every Tuesday and he likes money. My Venmo is... All right. I don't know when Raynard's birthday is. I don't know what the months are in this world.
01:14:26
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As of the day that this episode is dropping, my birthday is tomorrow. So that's when my birthday is. And I like brownies. Those are like fudgy, fudgy, undercooked brownies. Don't, don't fully cook a brownie batter. You're a monster if you do. Eric and I, Eric and I learned a long time ago that when it comes to like the sweets category of food, our tastes are diametrically opposite. Yeah. Yeah. Jeff and I could not do a bake sale together.
01:14:53
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All this talk about birthdays and birth years for the characters though and like be like the uncertainty Reminded me of and this might get cut but minute bowl the basketball player That's to convey that's to convey Famously
01:15:13
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They just made up a birth date for him when he was going to play in the NBA. So he could play in the NBA because they didn't know. And so they just put one down that would be appealing to NBA scouts.
01:15:26
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uh, to make him like the appropriate age that could play in the NBA, but not too old. But people who knew him as a child actually like think that he was in his forties or fifties when he was actively playing in the NBA, like that, that he was like 20 years older than what they had told the NBA and legally America, uh, for him to come over. Um, so I just, that that's just a fun story that I heard about recently that he, he was like wild in his forties or fifties when he was playing a professional sport in the United States and doing pretty well. So.
01:15:56
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as a seven foot seven goliath okay uh one an actual campaign one snuck snuck through it came in after i'd compiled them so i apologize to shelby that's really has a question for philip oh aris seems to be putting down more roots in sharn is that going to make her rethink her past knee-jerk reactions to just get out uh or is she still having fight or flight issues uh you know it's funny eric and i talked about this a little bit
01:16:25
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recording when we were going to dinner after recording the last session, because I guess this is fine to reveal. Eris resolved her obligation, like Eris's obligation was brought down to zero by this because Olive no longer perceives Eris as owing her a favor. And yeah, I was kind of talking about that is I think
01:16:52
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I think that a lot of that has been kind of resolved. Eris is now less inclined to just bail when things start to go wrong. She's starting to perceive people in Sharn as worth staying for and Sharn as
01:17:15
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more of a home and I think this is probably connected to her increasing concern about working for the Boromars because before who she was working for was not really very important because you know she could just bail but now she's becoming concerned that she might be working for really terrible people who probably murdered one of her friend's wife
01:17:41
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And also that friend doesn't seem to understand that. And that is concerning Eris in a more empathetic way. So, yes, I think that is. I'm glad that it's coming across. I think that is what's happening is that Eris is growing in that way. OK, Rebecca asked or Rebecca, pardon me, asked and if you don't have an answer to this one, I don't blame you. What drink are your characters?
01:18:12
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And Philip, you said you actually had an answer for Aeris for this one, didn't you? Yeah, Aeris is something like a tequila sunrise. It's just it's flair and cool looking and it demonstrates an interesting scientific concept. Not. Not that that's the entire reason, it's nothing to do with anything about the actual drink, just. Which I assume is why people order a tequila sunrise anyways, because it's looks cool.
01:18:42
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I've never had one, but it can't taste bad. The ingredients, fruity, I think, and has tequila in it. So if you like tequila and fruit, it's probably good. Uh, Trevor, do you know what drink Raynard would be? Um, probably just a classy glass of champagne.
01:19:06
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But in a dirty glass now. Champagne and a coffee mug. Milo would be a la fin du monde. A nice Belgian ale. Does that mean end of the world? That is the end of the world, yeah.
01:19:24
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Yeah. Um, Belgian ale. The cop out easy answer is they, the hob is a glass of water. And I think that is true. But if we're all putting thought into it, I will say that hob is a glass of water with some sliced cucumber and mint in it. It's a little bit, it's just, it's just a little more pleasant that way. Um,
01:19:44
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OK, and I think the last question is this one from Shelby. Yeah, for you. Yes, for me. So Shelby says, Jeff, you mentioned out of character that you're working with tribes to reclaim tribal land. Are there any foundations or groups you would recommend supporting or donating to help indigenous peoples?
01:20:02
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Don't have to answer this one while here I am doing it anyway.
Supporting Indigenous Communities
01:20:05
Speaker
Okay, so first I want to clarify, I must have, I mean, I often say things without thinking through them. I have worked with several Native American tribes. I am Native.
01:20:18
Speaker
I did not work in any sort of land reclamation thing. I worked in youth programs. But yes, land reclamation is a big thing and there's a particularly large movement for it now. If you're interested in that, I would search the land back movement.
01:20:34
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You'll find a lot of that. But if you are wanting to just in general do some things that would be a benefit to the indigenous people of America, you can check out the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center. That's I-N-I-N-I-W-R-C.org.
01:20:52
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The American Indian College Fund, the Navajo Water Project, NavajoWaterProject.org, especially now with more pipeline disputes, that one is probably going to get worse. And then one, and this is one that is not fun to say, but is extremely important. Indigenous women are victims of assault at an alarmingly higher rate than any other group.
01:21:16
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And so there is the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women's Project, MMIWUSA.org. It is an extremely well-researched, well-run program just with a prevention and a restitution goal. So those are the ones that I would recommend you checking out.
01:21:44
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And of course, if you live somewhere near a local tribe, you can certainly see if there are opportunities for you to get engaged there as long as you do so with the correct cultural sensitivities. I think that that would be a great thing. We have plenty of non-native people that work with the tribes out here. So there you go.
01:22:09
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All right. Role playing games. Thank you guys so much. We will be back next week. Eric waved to us who aren't going anywhere. Thank you guys so much for joining us for another episode. We'll be back next week with the beginning of a new arc.
01:22:26
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I will say that we sprung the recording of the reviewed on the discord. So please feel free to continue asking questions. We will get to them. I'm sure some of you had some thoughts that you didn't get a chance to get it in time. So feel free to ask any questions about this campaign at any time, really.
01:22:43
Speaker
Having said that, check us out on all the socials at the Geek Pantheon. Eric Twitch streams. I will let him tell you the days in just a moment, but also as the Geek Pantheon. YouTube regular videos, including the Kyber Shards show and campaign, which is DM'd by Philip and played in by Eric and others. And...
01:23:09
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I think that's all I've got. Eric, you want to tell them your Twitch days and if there's anything else that I'm forgetting? Yeah, I stream on Twitch Sunday mornings and then Monday and Tuesday nights. And I think that's it. Did you mention the Patreon?
01:23:24
Speaker
Oh yeah, that's one, huh? Patreon.com slash The Geek Pantheon, if you would like to join and support the things that we do. We have tiers as low as $1, and some of the perks include different levels of access in the Discord, access to Eric and Phillip's DM spell book where they put all of their cool homebrew stuff,
01:23:47
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Uh, that, and then they're, I don't think there are any, there's one shot spots open, aren't there? If you are interested in being a part of our one shot group once a month.
01:23:59
Speaker
And we make it up if we miss it. We do a one-shot with the patrons who are at that tier. Typically run by Eric, I've run a few as well. One-shot board games, variety. Yeah, we've done one-shots, we've done board games. I actually found some audio escape rooms that I'm interested in running with that crew the next time I run one.
01:24:22
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So yeah, that is that is that. Thank you so much again. We really appreciate you guys and we will be back next week. I have been Jeff. I remain Phillip. I'm Trevor. I'm still Randy. I will always be Eric. All right. Thank you guys. Goodbye.