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Speaker: Hello.
Speaker: Welcome to a brand new podcast.
Speaker: The Propane Maniacs.
Speaker: Episode one.
Speaker: Did you see the title I put on there, Josh?
Speaker: Loud is not allowed.
Speaker: Loud is not allowed.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: That's not really going to be.
Speaker: I just thought, I don't know why.
Speaker: I was inspired while I was typing the episode.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: Yeah, so I'm Perry Berkham, and I'm joined by my beautiful friend, Josh Robinson.
Speaker: Oh, that was so sweet of you to say.
Speaker: Oh, you know.
Speaker: Josh, the rock Robinson, something, you know, some Nick, you know, you don't have a nickname, do you?
Speaker: I don't think so.
Speaker: How about propane man?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Flamer, Josh Flamer Robinson.
Speaker: No flamers cooler.
Speaker: No flamers.
Speaker: Cool.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: So, come on, Peggy.
Speaker: Look, we're putting our names up on the board.
Speaker: It's really fun.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: Okay, you're going to hear a lot of spontaneous King of the Hill references, and that's what it's all about.
Speaker: So, you might be listening to, we are also putting this on my other podcast, Talk Nintendo Podcast, for our first inaugural episode.
Speaker: There's lots of King of the Hill fans there, so I thought it would be kind of fun to cross-post.
Speaker: But, yeah, Josh and I have been talking about this for,
Speaker: three years.
Speaker: It really is.
Speaker: I was trying to figure out when, when the first mention of it was, and it was at least two plus years ago.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And, uh, yeah, I probably didn't have any kids and now I have two.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So that's what's going on.
Speaker: So, yeah.
Speaker: So, yeah, what we're going to do is it's going to be an episodic, which is our favorite.
Speaker: That's my favorite kind of sitcom is episodic.
Speaker: You can keep your story based episodes out of here.
Speaker: No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker: But we're going to go through the episodes of King of the Hill, starting with the pilot.
Speaker: That's what we're going with today.
Speaker: And, you know, just like the pilot of King of the Hill, of any pilot, we are going to be finding our identity of the show.
Speaker: Going into it, we have an idea of what we want it to be.
Speaker: But I think over time, it's going to naturally evolve and become something awesome.
Speaker: And so we have segments planned generally of what we're going to do.
Speaker: We're going to talk about the plot.
Speaker: We're going to talk about the cast.
Speaker: and any sort of trivia that we can think of along the way.
Speaker: But our idea is just to keep it nice and fresh, and you can watch an episode with us to prepare each week, or if you don't need to watch them, like Josh and I, where we can just recite the whole thing.
Speaker: We're just going to start from the beginning, and Josh and I are just going to try to just repeat the whole episode.
Speaker: Line for line.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: You getting any compression?
Speaker: You know what forward stands for, don't you?
Speaker: Stands for fix it again, Tony.
Speaker: So, yeah.
Speaker: So, Josh, do you have anything else to say before we jump into the plot of the pilot?
Speaker: Oh, man.
Speaker: No.
Speaker: Other than that, I'm excited?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: Let's get at it.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And I will say it's really funny because it's like one of the reasons that like like I was hesitant about even doing an episodic thing starting with the pilot.
Speaker: It's like the pilot to me is one of my favorite, if not my favorite episodes.
Speaker: I mean, it's just brilliant.
Speaker: It's so funny.
Speaker: Every single line.
Speaker: is a one-liner.
Speaker: I mean, every single line I repeat every time I hear it.
Speaker: So I'm basically just talking while I'm... Because it's just so funny.
Speaker: And, you know, some things are weird, and, you know, including that first theme song, you know, you know, like that.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Like everything is, you know, and I think the only fly you ever see ever in the whole series in Texas is the first thing you see when he slaps on the back of his neck.
Speaker: Then that single-handedly solved the bug problem.
Speaker: But yeah, so I just think the pilot is incredible.
Speaker: It does establish a lot of characters.
Speaker: And honestly, the characters aren't, while over the series, they do evolve into different personalities.
Speaker: But really, it's a pretty steady going from the first episode to the last episode.
Speaker: Yeah, you know, I was, you know, I will get into this more later, but I was just noticing in my one of my many rewatches of the pilot that like you do.
Speaker: Like you're introduced to a lot of the characters and themes and sort of who they are pretty early on, like in this first episode.
Speaker: And, you know, it's not like.
Speaker: you know, a lot of this stuff changes.
Speaker: I mean, it really does sort of stay steady.
Speaker: And I mean, you know, you can see this first episode and you could watch the last episode and you'll pretty much know just about everyone that's there, I think.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: I mean, they get, you know, they pick up lucky and that's really it by the end.
Speaker: So, um, yeah.
Speaker: So I guess starting with the, the, you know, the, the storyline, um,
Speaker: You know, funnily enough, they don't really, you know, they don't show Strickland propane in the first episode.
Speaker: I think he mentions it just a couple times.
Speaker: Yeah, I think just the one time he mentions propane, but he doesn't say Strickland specifically.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So we're not introduced to Buck, but, you know, you get Hank and Dale and Bill and Boomhauer, and they're sitting around, and obviously they're trying to fix Hank's car, which is his truck, which is
Speaker: a common thread throughout the episode.
Speaker: And then I guess the whole really plot of the episode is that Bobby gets a black eye from a baseball game.
Speaker: And then he goes to – they go to the store, Hank and Bobby, and then Hank gets in an argument with Buckley.
Speaker: Or I think it is Buckley, right?
Speaker: It is Buckley, but, you know, it's funny because –
Speaker: We obviously know Buckley, but it's never established that he is Luann's boyfriend in this episode.
Speaker: So what are you trying to build?
Speaker: What are you trying to do?
Speaker: Buckley is a great character.
Speaker: Yeah, and it actually is credited as Buckley on IMDb, which is funny.
Speaker: And then so gossip, once people see Bobby with a black eye and Hank yelling at Buckley, then gossip goes around and it gets around through the... What do they call it when some person...
Speaker: you know, when you say something to a person and then pervert it a little bit and then, you know, it changes and changes until it gets something.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, I know, I remember the game in like kindergarten was called to like telephone or something, but I don't know if there's a term for like when it happens.
Speaker: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And so by the end of it, you know, all the, all the gossipers are saying, you know, that Hank, you know, beat his son or threatened the, threatened the, the, the, the guy with a hammer, you know,
Speaker: And he kind of did.
Speaker: The world's best hammer.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Sears already sold me that.
Speaker: The hammer.
Speaker: You know, we could do a whole episode on hammers.
Speaker: We should.
Speaker: Like Hank's last essay that he wrote.
Speaker: Oh, right, right, right.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: I forgot.
Speaker: It was about hammers.
Speaker: It was about hammers.
Speaker: You told me you left baby GH sleeping in a bag of hammers.
Speaker: The hammers of King of the Hill.
Speaker: So, Anthony from the Child Protective Services, I guess, you know,
Speaker: The twig boy.
Speaker: I mean, he's from more well known.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He comes and he's trying to take Bobby away.
Speaker: Bobby, don't you want to live in a house with a pool?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: Dude, that line always gets me.
Speaker: It's so good.
Speaker: No.
Speaker: It's like he doesn't really understand what he's saying.
Speaker: Like, why are you trying to get me to go wait?
Speaker: So then...
Speaker: Then Hank's worried, and then they find out that Anthony is a kook, and then so they call off the investigation.
Speaker: The CPS does.
Speaker: But for some reason, they only tell Bobby.
Speaker: They don't tell the rest of the family, and then so Bobby tries to trick Hank into threatening him.
Speaker: Basically to get him to do stuff that Hank doesn't like.
Speaker: And then says, well, you need to let me do this because they might take me away.
Speaker: And then one of my favorite lines is when Peggy finds out and Hank's laying on the bed.
Speaker: Oh, it's hard, Peggy.
Speaker: I love my son.
Speaker: Oh, it's hard.
Speaker: And then Peggy tells him.
Speaker: They call out the investigation last week.
Speaker: I'll kill him!
Speaker: Just a fantastic... Just a great... And then they've... Then there's a nice heartfelt moment at the end where Hank tries to tell him that he loves him and he can't.
Speaker: It's really hard.
Speaker: And then the episode ends as you see Anthony being...
Speaker: being carted off to Los Angeles.
Speaker: Los Angeles?
Speaker: Los Angeles.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: And the funny thing, I've always thought about the pilot, is that it's so dry.
Speaker: I love King of the Hill because it's so dry.
Speaker: It's so organic and natural.
Speaker: Long pauses, right?
Speaker: Nothing like you ever see nowadays on TV.
Speaker: TV sitcoms nowadays...
Speaker: Constant talking.
Speaker: No stops.
Speaker: It's weird, to be honest.
Speaker: I'm not a big fan.
Speaker: I don't really have any sitcoms that I watch anymore that are current.
Speaker: Do you?
Speaker: Well, let's see.
Speaker: I watch...
Speaker: I watched the Connors, which is just the Roseanne sort of spin-off.
Speaker: And that's definitely in the 90s style, right?
Speaker: And I actually haven't seen it because I've never seen Roseanne.
Speaker: And I've always wanted to see Roseanne, but I never have.
Speaker: So I haven't ever been interested in the Connors yet.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, I feel like there maybe is one other... There were a couple, but by and large, no.
Speaker: I mean, to be honest, I don't watch a lot of contemporary stuff at all.
Speaker: I watch game shows.
Speaker: Like, literally, that's all I watch on current TV.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, apart from... And this is not even really television, I guess, but, you know, with...
Speaker: Amazon has, I don't know if you've ever seen it, but The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, that's a really great show.
Speaker: It focuses on comedians.
Speaker: I mean, it's set in the 50s.
Speaker: It's a whole thing, but it's fascinating.
Speaker: I think it's hysterical.
Speaker: Oh, good.
Speaker: I'll check that out for sure.
Speaker: Yeah, but by and large, no, I don't really watch anything contemporary.
Speaker: But, you know, it's funny you mentioned the stuff with the pauses and this sort of like letting you sit with the situation.
Speaker: That's very much like The Office.
Speaker: And what do The Office and King of the Hill have in common?
Speaker: That would be Greg Daniels.
Speaker: Mike Judge.
Speaker: Just kidding.
Speaker: Greg Daniels.
Speaker: Yes, Greg Daniels, the man.
Speaker: Who won.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: The Office is another just, I mean,
Speaker: I love The Office.
Speaker: And actually, I mean, I grew... I mean, like, you know, when it came out, I was probably like, I don't know, 13, 14.
Speaker: And, you know, I loved it then.
Speaker: By the end of it, I was kind of sick of it.
Speaker: And the last season, I didn't ever watch it.
Speaker: You know, I was definitely like, hey, like, Michael's gone, you know.
Speaker: But I've recently, in the past few years, just like...
Speaker: Really.
Speaker: I mean, I've always loved The Office.
Speaker: I never hated anything, but it's like I really got.
Speaker: I mean, what a brilliant show.
Speaker: And it shows like it shows.
Speaker: Honestly, I kind of feel like I had a realization like The Simpsons kind of started dying off when King of the Hill came.
Speaker: And then King of the Hill kind of started dying off when The Office hit.
Speaker: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker: And it's really funny.
Speaker: It's kind of like that eight around the seven, eight season of each season.
Speaker: Um, and then kind of the same with the office.
Speaker: It kind of started, which is weird, but anyway, um, I love Greg Daniels.
Speaker: Uh, and yeah, and funnily enough, you know, they're bringing back King of the Hill.
Speaker: Uh,
Speaker: Well, sort of.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Did I send you – I may not have sent you the clip, but he was speaking to somebody on their YouTube channel.
Speaker: And he specifically said that they hadn't spoken to anybody at these networks.
Speaker: I mean like it's something that they are basically like they're looking to do, they want to do.
Speaker: But at this point in time, like it's definitely not – I think it is coming.
Speaker: How could you turn it down?
Speaker: I think it is.
Speaker: No, I think it is.
Speaker: I just think they're kind of playing it safe unless everything, you know, because I know exactly how projects work out.
Speaker: You know, I bet it's, I mean, I bet it's really far into development, but they don't want to announce anything just yet because, you know, they haven't found a home for it or something, you know?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Or, you know, or it's still in way early pre-production.
Speaker: But, yeah, back to the pilot, you know, just...
Speaker: You know, that really establishes a lot of things that, you know, you get to see John Redcorn cheating on Dale.
Speaker: You know, you meet Joseph, you see their friends, Bobby.
Speaker: And, you know, you see how they love to fix stuff.
Speaker: The four guys.
Speaker: There's a classic.
Speaker: I mean, I love when Boomhauer says something and Hank responds.
Speaker: I mean, all of those are just the best.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Lots of reoccurring.
Speaker: I wish it were that easy, Boom Howard.
Speaker: You should be in sales.
Speaker: It's so good.
Speaker: So, yeah, I just, you know, and I don't like, you know, the animation is so, is very different, right?
Speaker: Like, it's kind of almost like off-putting.
Speaker: In the way that Beavis and Butthead, it's almost like...
Speaker: I feel like the first episode is a stopgap in between Beavis and Butthead's art style and season two of The Thing.
Speaker: It's pretty raunchy.
Speaker: Just kind of weird looking.
Speaker: It turned me off of it when I was little.
Speaker: I always thought it was really depressing to me.
Speaker: I just got into King of the Hill about five years ago.
Speaker: See, that's wild.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: We've talked about this before, but I remember watching the premiere because The Simpsons was a lead into it.
Speaker: I've literally been watching from the beginning.
Speaker: No, I'm not going to claim that.
Speaker: And you loved it from when you first saw it.
Speaker: I did, but probably for different reasons because I was... That's so interesting.
Speaker: I don't even think so.
Speaker: You came in 97.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, so I was, and I would have turned nine in July, so I was eight at the time.
Speaker: So it's not like I really got the humor.
Speaker: When did it come out?
Speaker: Was it in July?
Speaker: Well, no, so it debuted in January of 97.
Speaker: It did?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: My goodness.
Speaker: So I, yeah, I hadn't even hit nine yet.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But, you know, I mean, I think it's... I was four?
Speaker: Oh, my God.
Speaker: Five?
Speaker: I mean, it's like, obviously, we're not that far apart in age.
Speaker: But when you're that young, that's a huge difference.
Speaker: And that's that Peggy line.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Oh, it just makes me sick.
Speaker: That means when she was three, Bobby was one.
Speaker: It almost makes me sick just thinking about it.
Speaker: Marie.
Speaker: But yeah, I really have loved it since the beginning.
Speaker: But of course at that age, I didn't like it for the same reasons.
Speaker: I think kids just have a way of finding humor, like the most base...
Speaker: Because I'm not getting the depth of the jokes or anything.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: I mean, it's such an adult humor.
Speaker: Like adult and the actual like... When you're adult, these things are super funny.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: I mean, like in a raunchy way.
Speaker: It's just funny.
Speaker: It's just...
Speaker: When you have that life experience and to just sort of understand how social interactions are and what's normal and what's not normal.
Speaker: It's a wonderful thing.
Speaker: And it truly is.
Speaker: The quality of the pilot script is just... To me, I love it.
Speaker: It's very...
Speaker: It's just like it reminds – and it is absolutely nostalgic for me.
Speaker: I have to say I remember when I first started watching it, like that series I was in.
Speaker: It was in the dead of summer, super hot out.
Speaker: I remember waking up early, drinking a delicious ice-cold Coke Zero from a can and sitting on the couch watching it, and it was just like the best summer ever.
Speaker: And it's just – and that's what I feel like, you know.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And anyway, so it sounds like the best summer ever.
Speaker: It was, it was great.
Speaker: But yeah, so I mean, I guess I'd love to talk.
Speaker: I was thinking, I think we can highlight some people in the cast kind of every, every episode, maybe even like go kind of deep into one.
Speaker: But I thought, you know, at least we can go over like who, like each one and kind of other stuff they've done.
Speaker: Obviously, Mike Judge is Hank Hill and he's Boomhauer.
Speaker: And so he's, you know, he...
Speaker: just amazing and and obviously and the other thing is that like i just like you just recently showed me was it you or who was it on the maybe it was on the tmp discord that like he's totally based off of a beavis and butthead character oh um yeah it's uh it's his name smith um uh oh my god you know i yeah i forget who posted it but i was the one who made the comment um
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: A Mr. Oh shoot.
Speaker: I mean, I'm gonna have to Google it now.
Speaker: Um, yeah, not, but anyway, is it Anderson?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Mr. Anderson.
Speaker: That's what it is.
Speaker: Is that what it is?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: So I've never seen Beavis and Butthead.
Speaker: I haven't really watched, I mean, I've seen a few episodes.
Speaker: I, I, I don't remember anything about it.
Speaker: Um, and, uh,
Speaker: So, yeah, I mean, I think that's... So, obviously, it's a character that, you know, was developed over time.
Speaker: Mike Judge made the character, all the original characters.
Speaker: I didn't realize...
Speaker: Did you know that?
Speaker: Did you know that he did the designs for him and everything?
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it's really neat.
Speaker: I mean, I guess you could call him not an animator necessarily, but I mean, I guess an illustrator.
Speaker: I mean, that's not his background at all.
Speaker: I think his background is in some really high-level science.
Speaker: I can't remember off the top of my head.
Speaker: He's a genius.
Speaker: He's hilarious.
Speaker: But yeah, I mean, his...
Speaker: his art style is pretty crude.
Speaker: Um, you know what I mean?
Speaker: It's not, at least when you look at Beavis and Butthead and, um, I mean, obviously I'm sure there are actual artists and animators who sort of took, you know, his, his ideas and said, well, let's tweak it this way.
Speaker: And,
Speaker: No, no, he drew every cell.
Speaker: Every cell, Josh.
Speaker: Well, you know, it's like that Simpsons joke.
Speaker: They just don't have any more live episodes of The Simpsons because it's a terrible strain on the animator's wrists.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: You know, and that's one of the things that I've always loved, too, is that King of the Hill is like a true and tried, as Casey would say, sitcom.
Speaker: You know, and it's funny because it's a cartoon.
Speaker: But it doesn't really make any effort to take advantage of that fact that it's a cartoon.
Speaker: It is such a, I mean, you could basically shoot, like they could have probably shot King of the Hill cheaper, you know, in real life.
Speaker: Like very easy, you know, like at least, you know, most of the episodes.
Speaker: It's just a very basic, funny comedy.
Speaker: You know, it's really down to earth.
Speaker: And anyway, so that's Mike.
Speaker: And then there's, you know, I've never heard her voice said, but Kathy, do you know how to pronounce her last name?
Speaker: So, you know, I feel like I have always in my head said Najimy, but I think it's actually Najimy.
Speaker: I would have to confirm that, but I'm pretty sure it's Najimy.
Speaker: Yeah, we could figure it out.
Speaker: She does wonderful.
Speaker: I mean, I knew her from Sister Act, right?
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: I always knew her from that.
Speaker: Hocus Pocus, right?
Speaker: And Hocus Pocus, that's right, yeah.
Speaker: And just wonderful.
Speaker: I'm a big Peggy fan, and I think that her voice is incredible.
Speaker: Oh, it's perfect.
Speaker: I feel like she got that character immediately.
Speaker: She understood Peggy, I think.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: And then equally incredible, Pamela, then Seagal, now Pamela Adlon.
Speaker: I love that she changed her name when she got married.
Speaker: No one ever does that in the... Yeah, in the entertainment business.
Speaker: And it's totally understood.
Speaker: I just thought that's interesting.
Speaker: But yeah, she does Bobby.
Speaker: Bobby Hill, among others.
Speaker: She does Clark Peters.
Speaker: She does...
Speaker: You know, she does many character actors.
Speaker: They all do character actors.
Speaker: I mean, they all do many of the one-time character parts.
Speaker: But she also did Leanne, which I never... I never, ever put that together until... See?
Speaker: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker: She does Luanne's mom in the one episode she's in, but I just... I never...
Speaker: She does such a great job.
Speaker: I didn't even think about it.
Speaker: Yeah, truly.
Speaker: I knew Pamela Adlon from Recess, from, is it Spinelli, I think?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Wow, yeah.
Speaker: And so I always knew Spinelli.
Speaker: And then when I heard, then I saw King of the Hill after that.
Speaker: And I was like, why is...
Speaker: why is Bobby voiced by a girl?
Speaker: I couldn't get the girl out of my head.
Speaker: That was actually a big deal to me.
Speaker: When I was growing up, I was just like, it's so weird that he's voiced by a girl because that's all I could see.
Speaker: So that was one thing.
Speaker: That's kind of funny.
Speaker: Then you have the wonderful Brittany Murphy who does Luann Platter, which is Peggy's niece.
Speaker: She, and I love this.
Speaker: I saw like, you know, you've seen those little behind the scenes documentary things about it.
Speaker: I love how they talked about... You've seen those, right, Josh?
Speaker: Have you seen the behind the scenes?
Speaker: I don't.
Speaker: I bet you have.
Speaker: You can look them up on YouTube.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: It's really cool.
Speaker: But they talk about how when they were putting out casting calls for the characters, and for specifically Luann, most of them were just kind of spazzy teenage girls.
Speaker: But Luann had this kind of innocence...
Speaker: like to her that just, you know, that her voice just was different.
Speaker: It wasn't that.
Speaker: It was like a more of a work in like, you know, just innocent, more of a girl.
Speaker: And I thought that was, it's so true.
Speaker: And I think that it was a very good decision because they could, you know, it really gives her character a lot more depth.
Speaker: And then it was revealed that, you know, her whole character,
Speaker: was to be a juxtaposition against Hank.
Speaker: You know, the uncomfortableness of him being next to a scantily clad young woman.
Speaker: You know, it was that, you know, that was the whole driving... I mean, even in the pitch to Fox, I mean, that was like in, you know, like this is who he lives with and, you know, it's terrible.
Speaker: You know, I got a minor son living here.
Speaker: So...
Speaker: I just, you know, and I find it interesting, you know, Luann, over time, she, you know, she becomes less frequent and kind of comes back and forth.
Speaker: But I really do like her character.
Speaker: Then we have Johnny Hardwick in there doing Dale.
Speaker: Incredible.
Speaker: I mean, and he's, and I believe he's, he was just, I think he's like a...
Speaker: You know, one of the producers, I mean, I think he's directed some of the episodes too, but I don't think he was an actor.
Speaker: I think that he was part of the show's production.
Speaker: Yeah, that's always been a little unclear to me exactly sort of how he, you know, what his initial role was.
Speaker: But I mean, I feel like he...
Speaker: I do feel like his background is somewhere based in comedy.
Speaker: I mean, it says staff writer.
Speaker: He's in this episode as a staff writer.
Speaker: Oh, okay.
Speaker: So that, well, that says it all.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So very cool.
Speaker: Oh yeah.
Speaker: And Brittany does Joseph.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Well, pre, pre puberty Joseph.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Pre-pubescent.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: So, yeah, Johnny Hardwick.
Speaker: I just and again, I am such a season one Dale fan.
Speaker: I mean, he is so funny.
Speaker: His his his he has a lower voice.
Speaker: He doesn't really he doesn't really scream a lot like he does.
Speaker: I mean, I love I love later seasons Dale, too.
Speaker: I love all Dale.
Speaker: But.
Speaker: That, oh, the original.
Speaker: He's a little more low key initially.
Speaker: Yeah, more low key.
Speaker: I think he's in and it really makes that sunglasses a lot more, you know, kind of kind of hanging back, listening and then telling you about what he really knows.
Speaker: You know, right.
Speaker: I love that, you know.
Speaker: You know, global, you know, his conspiracies are amazing.
Speaker: You know, I think, and I'm sure this is probably confirmed somewhere.
Speaker: I think that's like his glasses are supposed to be a nod to Hunter S. Thompson.
Speaker: If you're familiar with who that is.
Speaker: I'm not familiar with that.
Speaker: So he was a journalist.
Speaker: I think he followed a bunch of like biker gangs around.
Speaker: I mean, he was really like sort of...
Speaker: like, you know, get your hands dirty kind of journalist.
Speaker: Specifically, I can't even remember.
Speaker: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker: Okay, yeah.
Speaker: And I'm very much into the sort of, I don't know if you would be, I'm not like well versed on him necessarily to be able to speak authoritatively, but I think maybe sort of into the conspiracy thing a little bit.
Speaker: So that really sort of makes sense with Dale.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I just, yeah.
Speaker: I mean, wonderful character and really lots, very, very surprisingly deep, you know, with everything he has going on.
Speaker: But, yeah, he has some of the best lines and everything.
Speaker: Next up, we have Ashley Gardner.
Speaker: She does Nancy Hicks Gribble.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: I believe, yeah, I believe she also, she does Didi, right?
Speaker: I don't know that for certain, but that would make sense.
Speaker: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker: But she's wonderful.
Speaker: You know her off Seinfeld.
Speaker: She's the librarian off Seinfeld.
Speaker: With Bookman.
Speaker: Yeah, with Bookman.
Speaker: A library cop.
Speaker: um and so i just i think she's a she's fantastic i mean she nails nancy that that part is perfect um and then uh two more we got two more here and then well i guess we got three more because one of them's uncredited which is really weird but uh we'll talk about that we got david herman um you know him from a lot of stuff i mean mostly futurama he's kind of the same thing in futurama a nice beautiful character actor um
Speaker: that does many parts.
Speaker: And he's usually the guy that does, he's usually one of the, one of the two that does the, the, uh, one time off characters.
Speaker: Um, and, uh, and so in this one, and he also is the voice of Buckley and Anthony, um, which is, um, and so he does a great, great, and he's, you know, he's, he's, uh, he's, uh, scruffy from, uh, Futurama.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: It's funny, and obviously there's the Mike Judge thing with this, but I can only ever think of him as Michael Bolton.
Speaker: From Office Space.
Speaker: From Office Space, right.
Speaker: I just watched Office Space for the first time a couple years ago.
Speaker: Whoa, wild.
Speaker: I thought it was really funny.
Speaker: It's a great movie.
Speaker: My parents didn't let me watch it.
Speaker: It's pretty raunchy.
Speaker: It's not too bad.
Speaker: It's really funny.
Speaker: It's really, really funny.
Speaker: Especially coming from...
Speaker: You know, I think that they, coming from a King of the Hill background, because you get to see the Mike Judgeness of it.
Speaker: But I think that the Dale, what's the episode when he's in the office?
Speaker: You know, I think that's kind of like a love letter to that.
Speaker: I mean, that episode is really, I love it.
Speaker: You know, they do a lot of stuff like that.
Speaker: But David Herman, I think his voice is really funny.
Speaker: And then we have Toby Huss.
Speaker: He does Cotton's voice.
Speaker: He does Khan's voice.
Speaker: And then he picks up the Atherton's.
Speaker: He does lots of... He might have some even other... He has probably lots of reoccurring characters.
Speaker: He's got range.
Speaker: I feel like you really... He's one of those people who you just...
Speaker: he's got this ability to totally just like change, completely change, not just like his tone, but just like the way his entire voice sounds.
Speaker: Like he's not, it's not like H. John Benjamin where you pretty much know it's him every time because he doesn't do anything but speak with his regular speaking voice.
Speaker: Right, right, right.
Speaker: You know, he does, oh, what's the episode?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Smuggling cocaine.
Speaker: That's got to be illegal.
Speaker: What's the name of the serial killer?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Anyway, because Bobby's... And it's funny because that's a staff writer.
Speaker: That's one of the production... Oh, Wes Archer.
Speaker: Wes Archer, that's right.
Speaker: That's a great name for a killer.
Speaker: I love that he says that.
Speaker: He has such a nod to it.
Speaker: But his voice is my favorite...
Speaker: Toby Huss voice, that really low-talking Southern, you know, and just, I think he's great, Toby Huss.
Speaker: And, funnily enough, he grew up, like, just, like, three hours away from me in a random town in Iowa.
Speaker: That's wild.
Speaker: And it's so weird in Marshalltown.
Speaker: Have you been there before?
Speaker: I have, yeah.
Speaker: My best friend lived there.
Speaker: And I was like, I can't, because my best friend is an engineer there, worked there.
Speaker: And I was like, you wouldn't believe this.
Speaker: And Toby Huss is also, you know him from Seinfeld, as... The Wiz!
Speaker: The Wiz!
Speaker: I'm the Wiz.
Speaker: Oh, man.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He's an amazing actor.
Speaker: I don't know if you ever... You may be a little too young to have seen Pete and Pete on Nickelodeon.
Speaker: Especially because I was poor and didn't have cable.
Speaker: But he was already the strongest man in the world.
Speaker: Oh, really?
Speaker: Yeah, it was this really goofy character who... I don't even know if I've even... I can't even picture what Pete and Pete is.
Speaker: I think you may have talked about it once, but... Two redheaded kids.
Speaker: You would know them if you saw them, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Cat dog.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm almost through Doug.
Speaker: Oh, man.
Speaker: I'm proud.
Speaker: And we can start our Doug podcast.
Speaker: That'll be next.
Speaker: That's a great show.
Speaker: That's a great show.
Speaker: A really good show.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: And then last but not least, we have the incredible Steven Root that does Bill and Buck Strickland.
Speaker: And those are his main two.
Speaker: But man, again, all of the actors do the characters as well.
Speaker: The others do.
Speaker: And I just, yeah, I mean, I'm such a, I think Steven Root's one of the most incredible actors of all time.
Speaker: You know, he's, have you seen her brother Where Art Thou?
Speaker: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: Oh my goodness, dude.
Speaker: He's so good in that as the blind radio guy and the,
Speaker: Just everything he does.
Speaker: Oh, and have you seen news radio?
Speaker: Have you seen that?
Speaker: I have not.
Speaker: And that's one that's like, it's been like sort of on the periphery of my radar for a really long time, but I've never really taken the time to just give it a shot.
Speaker: Yeah, and there's an actual episode of King of the Hill that has all the news radio people on it.
Speaker: Really?
Speaker: Did you know that?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: Yes, when Luann gets her roommates.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, okay.
Speaker: You know, they have Andy Dick.
Speaker: Okay, yeah.
Speaker: And then the two girls.
Speaker: Those are Andy Dick and the two girls are from NewsRadio.
Speaker: And so is Stephen Root.
Speaker: So is Bill.
Speaker: So it's like a fun little reunion there.
Speaker: I think that's around the time that it was on.
Speaker: So really fun.
Speaker: NewsRadio is great.
Speaker: So incredible cast.
Speaker: Someone may say the best cast of any sitcom ever.
Speaker: And I would say that.
Speaker: They're just incredible and very talented.
Speaker: So, yeah, that's it.
Speaker: Obviously, this one actually was directed by Wesley Archer, funnily enough.
Speaker: It was, absolutely.
Speaker: And then written by Mike Judge, Greg Daniels, Jim Doderive, which there you go.
Speaker: You get that name, Bill Doderive.
Speaker: I'm sure that was based off him.
Speaker: And then Johnny Hardwick.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Incredible.
Speaker: It'll be fun to dive deep into more of the cast stuff as we go, just past stuff they've been into.
Speaker: But I know that you kind of found some stuff.
Speaker: Did you have stuff that you wanted to talk about?
Speaker: Yeah, you know, I had mentioned sort of speaking to
Speaker: the fact that, you know, if you see this first episode and if you skipped all the way to the end, you'd pretty much know just about everybody still, but they also establish a lot of first in this episode.
Speaker: Um, you know, we talked about the joke, the ongoing joke where, you know, boom, how are mumble something that you can barely make out and Hank reacts as if it's just, you know, something profound that everybody's talking.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Uh, it's the first time, uh, that, uh, Hank says, uh, that boy ain't right.
Speaker: Which I will say that that quote gets so overused by people like on Reddit and stuff.
Speaker: Like he says it, I feel like, I feel like my count was like fewer than 10 times in the entire series.
Speaker: So it's not, yeah.
Speaker: It's not like a catchphrase, but... It is a great phrase, though.
Speaker: It is a great phrase.
Speaker: It's the first mention of Hank's narrow urethra.
Speaker: Oh.
Speaker: He's talking to me about... He asked me about...
Speaker: What did he say?
Speaker: What's that line?
Speaker: He didn't ask about my glands.
Speaker: He is exactly.
Speaker: Firstly, like you mentioned, first time we see John Redcorn and his whole affair with Nancy.
Speaker: And it was the first mention of propane and propane accessories.
Speaker: He sees his love for America.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: We see the Megalomar for the first time.
Speaker: We see Buckley.
Speaker: I mean, so much of the show is established right from the beginning.
Speaker: Yeah, no, it's crazy, right?
Speaker: I mean, you're right.
Speaker: It's almost like they couldn't.
Speaker: And the thing is, and I loved it,
Speaker: Yet there's still so much space left in the episode to let it breathe.
Speaker: It's not hurried.
Speaker: It's not rushed.
Speaker: It actually, when I, it's the funniest thing.
Speaker: Whenever I watch it, I always think this episode seems long.
Speaker: And I don't mean that in a bad way.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: It's just like somehow...
Speaker: The feeling of the episode, I just feel like it's such an epic episode, but it's still just a 22-minute normal episode.
Speaker: Yeah, I think it might be because there's not really like a B story.
Speaker: There's not like a side story in this episode, which I mean I guess that makes sense when you're trying to establish –
Speaker: you know what's going on but um yeah they have some cute cuts you know to like bill and and dale you know working on hank's truck you know but that's still you know it's that's just like a quick thing there's not really exactly and it's something exactly um hey thank you the brake cable dale no i didn't
Speaker: And, you know, it's funny.
Speaker: It's the only time, you know what, it's maybe, it's not the only use of a musical, you know, interlude, you know, where I guess like a montage.
Speaker: I feel like they used that maybe one other time in one of the later seasons.
Speaker: But...
Speaker: It feels funny.
Speaker: That really feels out of place to me.
Speaker: You know, it's all these different instances of Bobby sort of manipulating Hank.
Speaker: You know what's my favorite one?
Speaker: It's just when they're dressing up Lady Bird, and it just cuts to him, and he's just...
Speaker: just can't take it like the fact that you're dressing up my dog I think that is so funny I mean what a funny character building thing like he thinks it's so bad that they're dressing up and Bobby knows that he thinks it's bad
Speaker: To dress up the dog.
Speaker: And so he is.
Speaker: That's so funny.
Speaker: I mean, wonderful.
Speaker: Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker: It is weird.
Speaker: It is weird.
Speaker: And then I think that even the, you know, I think that Hank's, you know, other out of place thing is like Hank's character at the end when he kind of gets up and he's like boxing with them, you know.
Speaker: It's just like, it's not really Hank, you know.
Speaker: Come on, put it, you know.
Speaker: It's just in the last scene there.
Speaker: Right, yeah.
Speaker: Because that's, yeah, you're right.
Speaker: That's really not.
Speaker: I mean, there are a lot of things I feel like in this first season where it's sort of, it feels a little off just based on what we know of the characters later on.
Speaker: But I also, I think about this a lot where, um,
Speaker: where Bill, it was Bill that asked if they saw Seinfeld, right?
Speaker: At the beginning.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think it was Bill that asked that, but it just seems in, in Hank, Hank goes, Oh hell, I missed it.
Speaker: And I feel like I would never have picked, you know, pegged Hank as a Seinfeld fan.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: But again, like I think everyone was kind of then around that time.
Speaker: Like I would say the same thing about my parents and I come to find out that they,
Speaker: They love Seinfeld.
Speaker: Like they loved, like they would watch it like with their friends, like when it came out new.
Speaker: And so that actually, that line always hit me.
Speaker: It was really funny because Hank's about my parents' age.
Speaker: And so I thought that that's so realistic as well.
Speaker: That like, oh, I missed it, you know.
Speaker: But I know what you mean.
Speaker: Like I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker: But, you know, maybe he is a Seinfeld fan because, what was it?
Speaker: Seinfeld's funnier than Gary.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, I love it so much.
Speaker: So, he's Jewish.
Speaker: Yes, Dale, he's Jewish.
Speaker: There's nothing wrong with that in and of itself.
Speaker: Oh, it's so good.
Speaker: It's, yeah, it's, uh, I mean, truly, I feel like, uh,
Speaker: This is the only show I think that I would put above Seinfeld.
Speaker: I mean, God, I love Seinfeld so much.
Speaker: But King of the Hill is truly like that's the top for me, man.
Speaker: It's one of those things where you wouldn't have this show without Seinfeld.
Speaker: I mean, you know, like Seinfeld is such a golden – what do you call it?
Speaker: It's like a golden standard to me.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: To me, it's just kind of like the – I mean, obviously, you got Cheers.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And you got, you know, you got 70s sitcoms and, you know, it goes back all the way to the 50s and whatever.
Speaker: But you know what I mean?
Speaker: Like, I think like Seinfeld is still to this day timeless and kind of set the pace for everything else that came after it.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, it really, it did, it felt different.
Speaker: Well, you know, I feel like it's because the, I mean, well,
Speaker: There's not... Seinfeld's a whole thing, but yeah, it totally changed comedy in sitcoms and... Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it's just... It changed culture.
Speaker: And I would say that Seinfeld as a whole is probably better than King... Like the first... It starts to finish.
Speaker: It was more even.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: I think that King of the Hill didn't get less interesting in the last few seasons, but...
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: I agree.
Speaker: And King of the Hill is my favorite.
Speaker: So.
Speaker: But yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Very cool.
Speaker: So I think that's it.
Speaker: Did you have anything else?
Speaker: You know, I think that's.
Speaker: That's all I got, twig boy.
Speaker: So next episode is the Peggy teaching sex ed, isn't it?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And that is called, I always forget what that's called.
Speaker: Oh, my app is running really slow.
Speaker: It is.
Speaker: Here, I'll just move on over here.
Speaker: Square peg.
Speaker: Square peg, of course.
Speaker: Right, right.
Speaker: So that's a classic.
Speaker: Look forward to that next time on episode two.
Speaker: And yeah, we'll just go right in order.
Speaker: So right now, I guess we have a Twitter you can follow.
Speaker: Yes, you can follow us at Propane Maniacs.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: And our name, by the way, Propane Maniacs, is just amazing.
Speaker: I love our name.
Speaker: I'm just going to say it because it's such an inside of the inside joke.
Speaker: You know, weaker men and less smart men would have done Propane Maniacs, right?
Speaker: Oh, absolutely.
Speaker: But see, we wanted to go the one step further.
Speaker: We wanted Peggy's version.
Speaker: Propane maniacs.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: That gag is so good.
Speaker: Even when they've all decided that they're going propaniacs, she still has to get in that propane maniac.
Speaker: She's still trying to get in hers.
Speaker: So good.
Speaker: So we are propane maniacs.
Speaker: Yes, I did just grill a steak on propane.
Speaker: I was impressed, by the way, when you told me.
Speaker: that you had to finish up that steak.
Speaker: I was proud.
Speaker: See, I really started this.
Speaker: I wanted to start this just so that I could tell my wife that, oh, it's Propane Maniac Day.
Speaker: I got to make a steak.
Speaker: That's the tradition.
Speaker: I think it has to be.
Speaker: I think it really has to be.
Speaker: You know what?
Speaker: I did taste the meat.
Speaker: And the heat.
Speaker: Taste the meat and the heat.
Speaker: Propane.
Speaker: Propane.
Speaker: Propane may next.
Speaker: And you can find Josh at Twitter.
Speaker: Yeah, I am at average Josh.
Speaker: And he has a picture of Doug for his profile picture?
Speaker: Yes, Doug Funny with an Atlanta Braves cap.
Speaker: Doug Funny.
Speaker: And what's Doug Funny's middle name?
Speaker: Yancey.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: And you can find me at P. Burkham.
Speaker: P-B-U-R-K-U-M.
Speaker: And that's it.
Speaker: So yeah, we will be finding a fun home for this.
Speaker: I think maybe YouTube or something like that.
Speaker: But definitely check us out.
Speaker: Obviously, check out my other podcast, Talk Nintendo.
Speaker: And you can also find my other podcast, Tui Talks.
Speaker: I'm starting two new podcasts in the same month.
Speaker: Smartest thing you've ever done.
Speaker: I'm a podcast guy, Josh.
Speaker: I'm a podcast personality.
Speaker: You're going to have to just quit your day job and just podcast every waking hour.
Speaker: You got it.
Speaker: That's what I'm trying to do right now.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: We'll see you next time on the Propane Maniacs.
Speaker: Bye.
Speaker: You told me you left baby G.H.
Speaker: sleeping in a bag of hammers.
