Episode 56 - The Return of Exclusives

Transcript

neocharge: What's up everybody and welcome to Shapes of Gaming, the weekly conversational podcast all about video games that's unedited, unfiltered, and unhinged. I'm one of your hosts, Matt Stenson, Neo Charge on PSN, and joining me, as always, for episode number 56 is the Retro Gaming Encyclopedia, Bob Harriman, Leon Lyon-Hartley on PSN.

neocharge: Yo!

Leon Lionheartly: Yo, what's going on, everybody?

neocharge: Figured I'd add some flair To the intro, because I've said it 50, well, no, like 70 times, honestly. We have like 65 episodes, including our spoiler cast and our bonus episodes.

neocharge: But yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, those are the recorded versions, mind you. you you're You're probably pushing more of 100 based on practice alone.

neocharge: Exactly, exactly.

neocharge: Oh, easily. We had like 50 fucking podcasts at the brewery. We just didn't record. That's on us.

Leon Lionheartly: 100% man. ah Live and learn. You know what? Just keep going forward.

neocharge: Absolutely. Absolutely. ah How's your, how's life been? How's, how's your week been? are you drinking?

Leon Lionheartly: um I am drinking water because I need to i need to cover from a ah stupid, dumb guy mistake of, I think this is still good and then eat it anyways.

neocharge: Oh yeah.

neocharge: So liquid shits we're talking about.

Leon Lionheartly: ah Yeah. yeah the just You know how it is You know when you ate it wrong because you go and you're like, that don't smell right.

neocharge: Yeah.

neocharge: Oh.

Leon Lionheartly: like Something's off.

neocharge: Yep. Dude, food poisoning is the worst.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: And I had it strike at the worst possible moment. ah Story time. When I moved into my new place, I didn't have anything here.

Leon Lionheartly: Thank you.

neocharge: And I was hungry. I didn't have anything, right? It was just like literally moved in. It was the day of moving in. I was like, you know what I'm just going to eat some gas station food So went to the gas station. Everything was sealed, mind you. Okay. This was like a month ago or something. I don't know.

neocharge: I'm time blind. But I, I started eating it. And then that night I'm sleeping and my stomach's just rumbling. I'm like, oh shit, what's going on?

neocharge: I got, like, not minor, not major, extreme food poisoning. Like, shitting and throwing up for two days. And it fucking sucked, dude.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: it i I didn't have anything here. My shower wasn't even set up. Like, it was the worst time to get food poisoning. So, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, there's Matt in the bathtub just filling it up.

neocharge: yeah

Leon Lionheartly: Please put me out of my misery. Yeah,

neocharge: Right? So I feel you, man. Food poisoning sucks. It's the worst. Sounds like mild food poisoning, though. So I'm glad you're on the up and up and recovering.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah absolutely. we're doing We're doing good. Lessons learned, folks. you know next and yeah I will say it's been an interesting week, though, outside of that.

neocharge: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

neocharge: Oh, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: um

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Been a lot ago yeah been going a lot going on with work, but then ah yesterday, he i don't know if you were paying attention to our group chat, but I'm sitting there making

neocharge: I rarely do. I'm kidding. Yes, I was.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. All right. Yeah. I'm sitting there making dinner, doing the cool thing. Crystal sits down with her son. hey you know, you want to help me open some card ah Pokemon packs?

neocharge: Oh!

Leon Lionheartly: I'm like, that's cool. They've got a little bonding moment. And first pack in, I hear, oh, and just literally nothing else. I was like, wait, what happened? What happened? Like, you sound like your dead yeah like something like hurt you.

Leon Lionheartly: No, ah apparently from the, I don't know which set, but it's a Pikachu set.

neocharge: Sending heroes.

Leon Lionheartly: Sending heroes. Yeah, it's a Pikachu sitting next to a tree.

neocharge: I looked it up because I was curious. I was curious.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: I looked it up. Do you know how much that card's going for?

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, let's just say I could get at almost a ah two p s five s for that price.

neocharge: um you

neocharge: Yeah. It's insane. I looked it because Bo was like, holy shit. Do you know how much that card is? And I was like, oh, like it's it's the main hit. I wonder. And I was like, whoa, holy fuck. It's Pikachu, Charizard, and Gengar. They're all crazy. Dude, the base set. The base set Charizard has gone up to like $600.

neocharge: It's crazy.

Leon Lionheartly: What?

neocharge: Yeah. I sold a couple like a year ago for four 50 or three 50 or something like that to, uh, go towards the one 51 set that I chased and mastered.

neocharge: So, Oh my God.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, forget those SpaceX stocks. It's all about Pokemon cards, apparently.

neocharge: Right. Right. and I, ah I was thinking about getting SpaceX stock, but right, right now I'm, uh, I don't know. I'm looking into it. Apparently you get a rivet on a spaceship.

neocharge: On a rocket.

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, see, yeah um I don't know.

neocharge: You get one of the rivets. So, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: What do I know about anything? Don't take my financial advice, but it

neocharge: It's gone up. It's gone down. It's doing what the stock market does. Dude, Pokemon cards.

Leon Lionheartly: does.

neocharge: Fucking nuts.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: Crazy.

Leon Lionheartly: Best r ROI and ever, actually, really.

neocharge: It really is. It's better than gold, better than silver. ah And so are sealed Lego sets, which is just absolutely nuts.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: It's the 90s stuff, man. So I still got my base set, jungle set, fossil set, team rocket set, still rocking it. And I have the 151 master set. So I just, ah I just like looking at them from time to time.

neocharge: I don't want to sell them, but to geez, they're worth a lot now. It's crazy. It's crazy.

Leon Lionheartly: Him.

neocharge: But the hobby's gotten a little crazy. There's a lot of scalpers out there. It's more of a a yeah profit chaser now instead of a fun hobby. so

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, that's for sure. yeah I'm like, you got to get there at random days, Tuesday at like 4.30 in the morning. And I'm like, i I can only but help think to myself, don't you have a fucking job to go to?

neocharge: Exactly.

Leon Lionheartly: Don't you have something productive to do in life? I i mean, go get your bag where you can, folks.

neocharge: Right?

Leon Lionheartly: This world's going to hell in a handbasket anyways. But come on, leave some for the kids.

neocharge: It sure is. It was almost as hot as hell today.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. Yeah.

neocharge: We were 95 fucking degrees.

Leon Lionheartly: goal

neocharge: i We were talking about it.

Leon Lionheartly: you

neocharge: walked outside and I was like, nope. It walked right back in and to my AC. But boy, oh boy, I got the fans running. i got the AC running. Now it's 721 p.m. MST right now.

neocharge: And the sun is going down. It is still a scorching 85 degrees out. That is crazy. I don't like it. I don't like that hot. i Anything over 80 is like, ugh, nah.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah I'm with you. Anything over that. And I just, I don't want to be human.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: I want to hang out in the AC. i Look, I think I've earned it at my point in life. i I've been in actual deserts and it sucks. I don't want to do it anymore.

Leon Lionheartly: So I think I've earned my right to sit in the AC and say, nah, I don't like the sun today.

neocharge: Exactly. Yeah. I'm just thankful it's not humid here. It's dry heat, so it makes it bearable. But man, 95 degrees. It's like a... It's hot.

Leon Lionheartly: do yeah It's like, you know, when you hit a certain point, ah you the here's what I'm saying is 80 is the limit, like the upper echelon where you start getting uncomfortable.

Leon Lionheartly: But after a certain point, it gets so hot that comfort level kind of, you get diminishing returns with your discomfort based on your degrees. It's 95 here.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm sitting in the sun. I hate my life. I'm in Tucson. It's 120. Guess what? It's still the same thing. I'm getting roasted by the sun.

neocharge: ah

Leon Lionheartly: I don't like this. go away.

neocharge: That's true. That's true. So hopefully it'll cool down, but we are, i mean, it's not even summer yet. We're going into summer, I think late June or something like that, but ah we'll see.

neocharge: We'll see. I am drinking a beer because it's hot as fuck. And I like drinking cold beers when it's hot as fuck.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: And I am drinking the peach stand Rambler from Odell Brewing, a blonde ale, a nice light fruity beer is awesome in, in the hot weather.

neocharge: Let me read this to you. let me Let me, me set the stage, right? You're, you're on a Hill. It's a grassy knoll. There's a tree at at the top and you're leaning against it. The birds are chirping.

neocharge: There's nothing quite like the summer harvest of Colorado peaches. This blonde ale is brewed to accentuate fresh Palisade peaches and pay tribute to the hands that carefully tend those orchards.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: That was a good voiceover work.

neocharge: Yeah. Hey, thanks.

Leon Lionheartly: You know, you say tree on Okay.

neocharge: um

Leon Lionheartly: Well, I'm sorry. There's a difference.

neocharge: Grassy knoll.

Leon Lionheartly: oh noll okay well i'm sorry there's its difference

neocharge: Yeah. Yeah. i know I don't know.

Leon Lionheartly: There's no difference. ah ah But yeah, you you get a lot of good, like the imagery out of that.

neocharge: a

Leon Lionheartly: Is it sad? My mind immediately was like, oh, are you playing Zelda?

neocharge: The plateau. There was some of bit that plateau, man, especially in Breath of the Wild, the first one, like when you go out and it's, it was kind of ahead of its time ah doing that.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, the plateau. Mm

Leon Lionheartly: hmm.

neocharge: And just the ambience of the, birds chirping and everything like that. Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. Yeah, Palisade Peaches. They're famous. And Palisade, Colorado is famous for their Palisade Peaches. So Odell Brewing in Fort Collins, Colorado uses the peaches from Palisade, Colorado. And we just got a fucking festival of Colorado goodness in my mouth right now. It's great.

neocharge: Tastes amazing.

Leon Lionheartly: That does sound delicious.

neocharge: And i got the I got the glass going in celebration of Revelation.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

Leon Lionheartly: Yes, you do. It's a pretty color on that beer.

neocharge: Revelation.

neocharge: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's very peachy and refreshing. So didn't you have one when you were over here? So I don't to save you one or I can still save you one.

Leon Lionheartly: I don't remember.

neocharge: Oh, so good. So good.

Leon Lionheartly: You handed me a beer last time and it was yeah it was peachy, so that had to have been it.

neocharge: I hand you many beers. Yeah. I'm a big fan of, you know, the sours and the blondes and the, well, blonde beers and blonde women. Am I right? Hey,

Leon Lionheartly: I don't know.

neocharge: yeah. But yeah, I, I like the, uh, the sours and the light beers in the summer spring. And then, you know, when you get winter or fall, it falls all day. It's my favorite. It's my favorite season. Probably because of the beer, you get the October fest, Marsans, the pumpkin beers is hit or miss. I'm not a, Big fan of the pumpkin taste. But if they use real pumpkin, it's good. And then the in the winter, you get the porters, the stouts, the like the marshmallow stout, the peppermint stout. Ooh, God, i love beer.

neocharge: but

Leon Lionheartly: yeah there's the there's a be If there's a season, there's a beer for you. I'll say that much.

neocharge: absolutely absolutely but that's what we do here on shapes of gaming as you know we drink we talk about video games and we shoot the shit really unedited unfiltered unhinged we have fun you have fun it's a win-win uh and for those of you who are part of the community thank you uh of course we've been growing still and uh yeah we're having some fun on discord And we've just built built a big old community out there.

neocharge: And if you're not part of it, Bob, where can people join the community? Where can they go to the Discord and our Twitch and our Facebook and our TikTok and whatever the fuck else we have? I don't know. Alex is in charge of that. He does a good job.

Leon Lionheartly: 56 episodes and you still can't remember.

neocharge: I can remember.

Leon Lionheartly: i know.

neocharge: I just like throwing it over to you.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm fucking with you, dude. You just hop on that browser train

neocharge: It's our bit. It's our bit at this point.

Leon Lionheartly: it is our It is.

neocharge: I love it.

Leon Lionheartly: It's kind of our thing. Although the time you kicked it over to ah Caleb was really good. i respect that.

neocharge: Yeah, he was like, good surprise, motherfucker.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah Booker. ah But yeah, you just pop in that browser and you go over to shapes of gaming.com. Like Matt alluded there, you're going see the, the resting links, resting points for all of the links, if you will. Um, Or you can come listen to me ramble on for five minutes about whatever the hell's going on in my head. Come check us out um on on Twitch.

Leon Lionheartly: We'll be there soon enough because Halo is right around the corner. um As well as the all of the socials that Matt already mentioned.

neocharge: Oh yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Alex is over there doing his ah bit and helping the community grow. And then, of course, most importantly... Well, not most importantly. You can talk to some ah fellow gamers and degenerates, if you will, on our Discord. I'll link in there for that, too. So once again, just head over to ShapesOfGaming.com.

neocharge: Absolutely. We're all nerds over there. And if you like the cast, leave us a review. Subscribe. It's all free. We're not asking for any money. We're just asking for your time. And we know that's important. So thanks for listening. We appreciate you all.

neocharge: Bob, we got some bad news. We got some good news. We got a bunch of crazy news to go over this episode. So what do you say we dive right in? What do we, let's let's do maybe like a negative sandwich.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Do we have two pieces of bad news and like, let's do negative, positive, positive, negative, or maybe like,

Leon Lionheartly: Well, I thought we have, ah we got the positive, we got the negative, and then we got the positive, and then we'll just fold those in together.

neocharge: yep.

Leon Lionheartly: What do you think?

neocharge: That's what I meant. That's what meant, positive, negative sandwich.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: The positives are the bun.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, yeah,

neocharge: My goodness. Yes. So, and that's what we have. We have two positives and one negative.

Leon Lionheartly: Do you even sandwich, bro? I'm just saying. Yeah.

neocharge: Oh yeah. ah like I like that fire roasted turkey or chicken with thinly sliced, not too thin, because it falls apart.

Leon Lionheartly: um

neocharge: I don't like when they do that, the the too thin. And then you get a some like a little bit thinly sliced Wisconsin sharp cheddar. Okay.

neocharge: And then you you get the little Kaiser rolls. Okay. We're serious about our buns here. The Kaiser rolls. Toast it a little bit if you want. If you have like a toaster. Then throw just a dab of mayonnaise on there or mustard.

neocharge: Got yourself a quick and easy sandwich. You can light it up with some tomato or some lettuce. Throw some onion on there. Get crazy. I love sandwiches.

Leon Lionheartly: There's our sub podcast.

neocharge: Oh, dude. I would do a cooking podcast.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, man.

neocharge: I, uh. Man, I haven't cooked in a while, but you cooked some bomb-ass fucking beer brats when you came over. What was that for? That was for State of Play, wasn't it?

Leon Lionheartly: State of Play, Summer Game Fest, it was all a blur, man. that Those two weeks were, for that week and a half to like two weeks were rough with the keeping up with the news and everything.

neocharge: All a blur.

neocharge: Oh, man.

Leon Lionheartly: But ah yeah, no, we could totally do that sometime because really there's a sandwich if you think about it for every occasion, kind of like a beer.

neocharge: Yeah.

neocharge: There is. There is. Is a hot dog a sandwich?

Leon Lionheartly: Absolutely.

neocharge: I mean, it does make sense, but ge God, that's just mental. It's so mental.

Leon Lionheartly: You've got condiment, you've got meat, you've got people who put vegetables, and it's in between bread.

neocharge: A hot dog is a hot dog. I know.

neocharge: i know. Is a cereal a soup? No.

Leon Lionheartly: I mean, I will tell you, i will.

neocharge: No, hot. I think you have to, if it's hot cereal, if you think about hot cereal, you think about oatmeal, right? It's not you're not, you're not pouring yourself some cocoa puffs with milk and throw it in the microwave.

Leon Lionheartly: There you go.

neocharge: If you are, you're a goddamn psychopath, okay? You eat cereal cold and no, it's not soup. It's fucking cereal. ah

Leon Lionheartly: yeah But like you can't tell me that we don't make soup based with recipes from a woman who wrote it 300 years ago, and that's not witchcraft.

neocharge: It's true. It's true. Cooking is pretty much witchcraft. I mean, if you think about it.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. Yeah.

neocharge: But yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Are you? Anyways, ah are you wizard, Harry?

neocharge: and say So, oh, you're a wizard, Harry, and a thumping good one at that.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: and There's a video I'll have to show you sometime. It's a modification of that.

neocharge: and

Leon Lionheartly: I'm not quoting that one on this show. Yeah.

neocharge: Oh, excellent. Why? We're unhinged. No, don't. um If you don't want to quote it, that's bad. Maybe we'll throw it on Discord or something. Sometimes we go on rants, sometimes we go on tangents here. And that's how we do it.

neocharge: It shapes the gaming. So, okay. Positive, negative, positive. ah i'll I'll do the first positive piece of news because I really want to talk about this. And it's quick and easy. I like them quick and easy.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, that's good. So we get the, so both of them are, by the way, your quick news is, so you've got thin bread in it in between a nice big chunky chunk of meat.

neocharge: That's true.

neocharge: Yeah, like fucking spoiled meat, I'll tell you. fucking It's probably that the pimento-filled meat that's just like been sitting out for a while.

Leon Lionheartly: It's

neocharge: oh God, I don't want to talk about it, but we have to.

Leon Lionheartly: got some, it's got some, it's got some, it's got some Femunda cheese.

neocharge: Uh-huh. It's getting a little furry.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Get a little white. you should write You're like, eh, probably shouldn't eat this. But then you do.

Leon Lionheartly: And you end up with food poisoning.

neocharge: And it just makes you sick to your stomach.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: ah's ah That's a good analogy for this fucking news. Let's start with the positive, though. Assassin's Creed Black Flag resynced has gone gold. And before that, before they announced it's gone gold, and I love this, they're engaging with the community. They put it on Twitter or X or Zitter or whatever the fuck you want to call it. And they were responding to comments and they seem pretty excited about it.

neocharge: I think the review embargo is like two or three days before it releases, which is a good sign. ah And we also got a new track from fucking Woodkid.

neocharge: Like, holy shit, Woodkid's awesome. i already liked Woodkid before he did Death Stranding 2, but he did most of what was in Death Stranding 2. He has some incredible songs in there. And if you haven't heard them, go check them out or just play Death Stranding 2. What are you doing with your life, Alex? ah No.

Leon Lionheartly: He's playing Claire for the 10th time, okay? Leave him alone.

neocharge: He's playing Claire for the dead time. But it's a slower, more... slower more ah ah instrumental-ish type of... ah Johnny Lever ah from Assassin's Creed. So in Assassin's Creed Black Flag, this isn't a spoiler, but one of the big ah gameplay mechanics is you get a fucking ship. You get a pirate ship. Spoiler, right? No. But your crew sings sea shanties.

neocharge: And the sea shanties are collectibles. So they're collectibles in the world, and you collect all the pages, and then When you collect the music pages or music sheets of a specific sea shanty, it gets put in the rotation.

neocharge: And you can rotate the sea shanties. And they just, it's awesome. But ah Leave Her Johnny, Leave Her is one of the sea shanties. And Woodkid did a remix of it. And it's... ah Yeah, it's like it's a slower version and it's very melodic. So go check it out.

neocharge: Woodkid made Leave Her Johnny Lever. So, dude, I am so excited for this game. I'm so excited it went gold. I'm excited for many reasons, Bob. Right. It's in my top five favorite games of all time. As as you all know, we talked about that in episode 10. We did our top 10. Look at us.

neocharge: Look at the consistency. ah it's a fucking pirate game and it's one of the best. It's one of the best pirate Sims out there. It's from one of my favorite IPs, although the IP has been going downhill, but they used to be really great. Assassin's Creed.

neocharge: And it's an incredible fucking game. And it's it's all about pirates. So, um and I have it drafted.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, there's there's the key thing.

neocharge: boom. Boom. Got it drafted. I think it'll be like mid 80s, high 80s, I think. I'd say.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. Yeah, if i if I had to guess, it where you we're talking 83 85, I'm thinking. um

neocharge: 87.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: Okay. 89. That's what I'm saying. You heard it. You heard it here. want to bet a six pack?

Leon Lionheartly: we'll see

neocharge: No, I do not.

Leon Lionheartly: No, no.

neocharge: I do not.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: Okay.

Leon Lionheartly: be Betting on ah on ah game scores already burned this year.

neocharge: Yes, yes, indeed.

Leon Lionheartly: But...

neocharge: ah yeah Are you getting this on launch? No, you're not getting this on launch.

Leon Lionheartly: No, no. I won't be getting it on launch. I'm limiting what I'm grabbing over the next couple of months because it's just...

neocharge: True.

Leon Lionheartly: It's going to explode. So I got... I i know it's a a... Call me a fanboy, but I got to save the money for my boy Master Chief. um And that is happening.

neocharge: Oh, yeah. we are We are all getting it. ah We are doing a four-player run. you me... or Bo and Caleb, Admiral Murps and Burrito Supreme. We are all doing straight out the gate fucking legendary four player co-op Halo campaign evolved on PS five.

neocharge: And ah we will be streaming it. And yep, you you will be able to hear everyone and all of our antics.

Leon Lionheartly: Yes.

neocharge: And ah it'll be going back to the early Hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: Dude, it's about to get unhinged for sure

neocharge: ye Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Typical with the slogan around here. I'm looking forward to the skulls that they we're providing. The or the the additional...

neocharge: Dude, third person.

Leon Lionheartly: Imagine third person, and ah there's an infinite ammo one that i've that's confirmed, and then adding in the additional stuff if you played the original with skulls. So you've got bigger explosions and all this other stuff. It's just going to be basically fucking chaos when we run the do these lasso runs, and I am so here for it, dude.

neocharge: Grunt birthday party. That's key.

Leon Lionheartly: Yes, always. Because when you get that shot and you hear the, yay! You know you know.

neocharge: yeah Oh, yeah. Fucking love it. Yeah, dude, it's going to be such a callback. ah And yeah, that's another piece of news, but it's positive. And we want to end on a positive note.

neocharge: So we're going to leave that for last. But it's cool piece of news. And yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, no, that that's good.

neocharge: So.

Leon Lionheartly: That's good, man. But at the end of the day, I will say Black Flag is not there, but I will be getting it at some point because Black Flag is probably, it's in that realm of who do I like more, you or three um when it comes to the AC games?

neocharge: It's so good. ah ah it's that My top three are probably Black Flag, easily the top one. Two.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: And then, man, Valhalla or Syndicate, I'd say. Valhalla's really good. And it takes a lot from Black Flag, honestly.

Leon Lionheartly: It does. it does.

neocharge: So, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: That's why it's up there.

neocharge: Yeah. I'm excited for Hexay. I want to know what they're doing with codename Hexay. We got that witch game, which I thought, they're like, oh, previous Assassin's Creed devs. I'm like, is this fucking Assassin's Creed? I mean, it doesn't. But it was... Hexay's a really cool era to visit, like the late... fit or I don't know, mid-1500s, the Salem Witch Trials. And you're a badass female assassin witch.

neocharge: Gotta have a cat companion. Like, oh, give me that. That sounds awesome.

Leon Lionheartly: Mmm.

neocharge: That sounds awesome. So, yeah. ah Black Flag. I'm getting the collector's edition. It's coming. Gonna have an unboxing party. We'll fire that shit up on the the theater.

neocharge: And, ooh, God, I can't wait. I've never played Black Flag on OLED, so that'll be interesting and different. And I've seen some comparison screenshots. So, yeah. July 9th.

neocharge: It's coming out. And ah it it has gone gold. So typically games will usually go gold about four to three months before release. So it's right on track. It's right on schedule.

neocharge: And I think it'll do great. And I'm very excited. So Black Flag has gone gold. Check out that new track from Woodkid. ah Leave her Johnny Lever.

neocharge: And yeah, that's one of the pieces of positive news. But yeah. What's new in the Microsoft realm?

Leon Lionheartly: This is fine.

neocharge: Bob, this is fine.

Leon Lionheartly: This is fine.

neocharge: This is fine.

Leon Lionheartly: that's the That's everything that's going on.

neocharge: It's all good.

Leon Lionheartly: ah All right.

neocharge: Oh.

Leon Lionheartly: So we're going to pre I'm going to preface this. Everybody's probably, if you're even somewhat familiar with the video game industry, you probably heard about what we're talking about. And I want to stress this is not...

Leon Lionheartly: confirmed. Nothing is set in stone only because we have not heard anything officially.

neocharge: Not official.

Leon Lionheartly: So this is more talk about the speculation and more in the direction of quite frankly, where Xbox is as a whole, because they're important to the entire industry, um, as a whole.

Leon Lionheartly: So it's, it's important to talk about this. Um, but yeah, uh, just a huge, but well, I wouldn't, not as big as it used to be, but they're still, they're still important.

neocharge: Yeah, they're a big player.

neocharge: Right. Second biggest publisher in video games, I think.

Leon Lionheartly: Uh, Mm-hmm. All right.

neocharge: Yep. Who's first?

Leon Lionheartly: Well, depends on how you look at it. Steam.

neocharge: Oh, hmm. Yeah, I was going to Nintendo, but...

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. Yeah.

neocharge: Yeah. Okay, let's let's get into this. All speculation, like you said. Nothing confirmed. But it sounds like it's probably going to happen. So we're going to report on it. ah But remember, all speculation.

Leon Lionheartly: Yes, absolutely. All right, I'll set this up for everybody so we can talk about this. Last week, ah Bloomberg, Jason Schreier over there, reported that Microsoft was planning significant cuts to its gaming division. um Then later ah this week, and this would have been two days ago from when we were recording on Tuesday, or actually Monday, I remember, because it was a really boring day in the office.

Leon Lionheartly: um And this is all nobody could seem to shut up about in our our group chat. Yeah. yeah

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: ah are Sorting back to Gamefile, and I pull in this from ah over at Video Games Chronicle. that Shout out to them for helping or run this down because it's been a string of rumors. um

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: Citing a source familiar with Microsoft's operations. um they Well, they... it So let me back up. Time out. Before the GameFile report, there was more reports that came out through Jason Schreier and everybody else. The chain echoed around there that Microsoft is seriously looking at making cuts. And this includes...

Leon Lionheartly: Ninja Theory, which is doing part ah which is known for the Hellblade series, um as well as Compulsion Games and Double Fine are on the chopping block right now.

Leon Lionheartly: um This is coming partly...

neocharge: Among others, they said, too.

Leon Lionheartly: Among others. That's the important part. This is coming among others to include. So we don't even know how far down this could go. The rabbit hole it could go. um Who knows what's going to happen?

Leon Lionheartly: But this is yeah now then led into to ah talks about ah these studios trying to break off from Microsoft. So we'll see what happens on that. But that's not the that's that the ah the most recent update of the rumors. Coming from Gamefile, this has been indicated.

Leon Lionheartly: And this is what's really interesting is, Matt, You remember Summer Game Fest. You remember the Xbox showcase.

neocharge: Yeah, we saw Senua.

Leon Lionheartly: We did see Senua. Apparently, yes, apparently, according to sources that we've been hearing, Microsoft sent Senua out there to get them get buyers interested in the studio, and they've already been axed, and they just don't know it yet.

neocharge: Who's Ninja Theory.

neocharge: Oh, that is dirty. Wow. we We were so confused why they were showing Senua, right?

Leon Lionheartly: Uh-huh.

neocharge: Senua, Hellblade Senua's Saga. So we have Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice, the first one. ah p s Launched on PS4. Had a launch window, ah like an exclusivity window.

neocharge: timed exclusive. But then we have Hellblade Senua's saga, which didn't do well, ah critically. And not a lot of I haven't heard a lot of good things about it. So I was like, okay, cool. It's a duology, then we're moving on to the next one. No, they showed like a new Senua. And i was like, what the, this is one is too soon. And two, the IP isn't doing too hot. So, wow. Now it makes sense.

neocharge: Just, they were making them, didn't even tell them, making them advertise because they're being sold. Great. Cool.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, they it what's and this is this would be really weird if this turned out to be true because

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: this is the you're giving people the opportunity, to other these companies to off-board um and and take over. But Microsoft, yeah, that's cool.

neocharge: That's cool.

Leon Lionheartly: That's awesome. Maybe there is some ploy for political gain, but if you're if you are trying to run a business...

neocharge: yeah

Leon Lionheartly: And quite frankly, Microsoft has got a lot of IP. You'd want to hang on to that IP, which means ah you shut down the studio and you keep the IP. You keep the Senua.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: you shut you shut down ah You shut down and you keep killing. You shut down and you keep you keep these IP because that's what's going to help drive value later when you're prospect when you're trying to find prospective buyers and developers of these IPs.

neocharge: Yeah, yeah. And during this this chat, we're going to be wearing multiple hats. I'm going to be wearing three hats, right? The business hat, the business side hat, right? The PlayStation fan gamer hat, and then the fucking human being hat,

Leon Lionheartly: Yes.

neocharge: So, oh, we're going to tackle this from three angles because I can see the business side. I can see the humanity side, and I can also see like the what the fuck side, right? So that's cool that they're they're not like ah shutting them down and then burying it, right? That's cool that they're saying, hey, we're going to put you out for sale. Hopefully someone buys it. But, man... ah The investment side on things with gaming is not looking hot because there have been reports that Tencent, they own a lot of shit and their developers have been coming to them be like, hey, we need a little bit more funding. and they're like, nah, funding's cut off.

neocharge: And because o money's tight out there, the dollar isn't going as far as it used to, and everyone's just hurting from a business perspective. But Yeah, from a humanity spec perspective, this fucking sucks. So continue with the news.

Leon Lionheartly: No, no, you're fine. This is your... I will say, let's let's talk about that humanity side. That's what stings the most about this, right?

neocharge: Hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: we're we'll get We'll talk about... I've got thoughts on the the PlayStation and the business side of things, and I've got some, you know, two I don't want to say ah multiple angles or multiple feelings going on, but this human side, if we have this talented...

Leon Lionheartly: They're they're talented developers over there. Like,

neocharge: Probably

Leon Lionheartly: You look, Senua, so the Hellblade series has taken a long time to it to come to fruition um because the first one was what, 2019?

Leon Lionheartly: Don't quote me on that.

neocharge: ah believe Yeah I think

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, Hellblade. Yeah. And then Hellblade 2 in 2024 did get an award at the ah the Game Awards at the TGAs.

neocharge: something like that

neocharge: that cool

Leon Lionheartly: But a five-hour game took you, what, almost six years to develop? Yeah.

neocharge: Yeah, it's rough.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, that's rough. um So my point is there are some talented and individuals out there and I really hope they come up on their feet in this industry. They're able to to recover because that sucks. One day you're you're doing fine and the next thing you know, the rug's pulled out from under you.

neocharge: Right. Yeah, there are real human beings and people behind this, like, that have lives and there's, like, They have families.

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, it's all AI. Yeah.

neocharge: Right, right. And these are artists. Like, they're creating good shit. Double Fine has awesome artists over there. Psychonauts was incredible. Psychonauts 2. All the shit they make is incredible. ah And then ah Compulsion, they made Contrast, which was a PS4 launch exclusive.

neocharge: Jesus Christ. But this is, like, if you think about it, Xbox or Microsoft, they haven't really shepherded

Leon Lionheartly: Mm-hmm.

neocharge: any talent. They just go out and buy it. Like they didn't, they didn't fucking create Bungie and Halo. They bought Bungie long time ago. They bought them. Uh, they bought the, the coalition, I believe, or did they shepherd that one? I don't know. They bought Bethesda.

neocharge: They, they bought so many fucking studios. And I think there are two other ones on the chopping block, unfortunately. And that's arcane. Because we haven't seen Blade. Where the fuck is Blade? Redfall was a flop.

neocharge: And I mean, it's kind of a ship of Theseus at this point, but Rare. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: rare Rare hurts ah really bad, but you never know because Toys for Bob is back, man, with a Spyro game.

neocharge: Yeah.

neocharge: It's true. And Rare kind of, ah all the important devs broke off and created their own Playtonic Studios, which they created ukulele, and now we're getting like a Pixar ukulele cart.

neocharge: So...

Leon Lionheartly: yeah Oh, yeah, I forgot about that the that's ah that's coming, but you're you're right.

neocharge: Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, they go out...

Leon Lionheartly: Ooh, are ah Arcane.

neocharge: What?

Leon Lionheartly: and those are good That's a good call-out, man, because that was never talked about.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: We'd be surprised.

neocharge: Yep. Yeah, so they went out and bought all these fucking studios, and this was a push during the Phil era to get stuff on Game Pass and sell Game Pass, right?

neocharge: But now they're they're ah pushing for AAA development and putting that on Game Pass. where Where do you make the money here? Because if you're putting on Game Pass and offering it as a subscription, you're And then locking it to your box, exclusive, while not, I mean, your box is going to be so is already super expensive and your new box is gonna be even more expensive.

neocharge: you're kind of digging yourself a hole here, man. It's getting, it's getting crazy and components are getting pricey. Asha even said like components now compared to what, five years ago or five X the price.

neocharge: And like to, to build these systems, they need components and they need to go through a component providers like, uh, like the chip manufacturers and everything like that.

neocharge: And that's just all getting super expensive. And then, yeah, these developers, I mean, compulsion is making, what are they making right now? It's not, is who's making a fucking clockwork revolution.

Leon Lionheartly: which Which one? Oh, that's In in Exile.

neocharge: Who's making an exile. Okay. Okay.

Leon Lionheartly: Yes.

neocharge: That's another small one they could get rid of. and But that they said that's one of two exclusives each year, one a year, ah that they're going to do Clockwork Revolution.

neocharge: That's not going to that's not going to move boxes. That's not going to move consoles. But ah Compulsion... Oh, they did fucking South of Midnight. And it was it was really good.

Leon Lionheartly: Yes.

neocharge: And i still want to play it because it's on PS5. But is it was like nominated and everything. And dude, I'm i'm hearing...

Leon Lionheartly: it Yeah.

neocharge: I'm hearing all these stories about like these games, like these dev teams release these games. Then they get laid off the next fucking day and their games are good. Like, God damn, man, I get the business side. I do, but I, I wish it was different because ah developers and real human beings are getting fucking taken advantage of and they're just getting used. And like, it's becoming basically contract work and,

neocharge: o it's just ah it's just sad. And then Xbox bought all these teams and now they're letting them all go and oof they are They are doing really bad. And I feel like the best course of action for them would just go third-party publisher.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, no, I will.

Leon Lionheartly: How do I put this? You know what? Screw it. We'll just get to that ah to that point. um My question a question for you is how do you think Microsoft survives? Because this is our Xbox, should I say?

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: um This is not sustainable. We've known for years now that this is not sustainable. The FCC um leaks ah that came out during that, well, leaks if you will, but during the ABK purchase showed that Game Pass, in order to be sustainable, they were looking upwards of 90 million monthly active users, which is fucking nuts because you don't even have that many PS5s in the wild right now.

Leon Lionheartly: Well, Kind of, but still even then, you're not getting all of them to subscribe to PlayStation Plus Premium at the same time. um So you're smoking a big crack pipe there. ah I think I'm in agreeance. I will say they need to go third-party publisher. And I think if Asha really, and here's where I want to take this a step further, Matt.

Leon Lionheartly: If x Xbox wants to survive in terms of making hardware available, Here's, they've got two, they've got one big risk and it's a huge risk, but you, you go down and you say, okay, we're going to get our monthly apps, active users. We're going to be a third party publisher. And in five years or seven years when component pricing finally levels the fuck out or we go, Hey, where's everybody else at?

Leon Lionheartly: We know PlayStation. We is going towards a portable version. Like you're going to have a handheld micros. The Nintendo switch is a a handheld. Steam, has that yes, has a Steam Deck, but they've been selling 6 million or 9 million steam to ah um actual handheld Steam Decks versus the Steam Cube that's coming. um Maybe Microsoft says, you know what?

Leon Lionheartly: There's some people who are getting left behind because the handheld market's taking over. And they come in with a cheap, reasonable, marketed price with that translucent green like they did for the 25th. You come in and say, hey, by the way,

Leon Lionheartly: You can come play all of those games here on this box. It's going become some kind of deal where you can carry over all of your saves and all this good stuff. Start pulling that stuff in and you just yank you yank the cord.

Leon Lionheartly: you You could eventually do it because as we know, and you look at what PlayStation is doing, you know i really we love PlayStation games. We're PlayStation gamers. That's my primary console, right?

Leon Lionheartly: But we got Saros.

Leon Lionheartly: which is awesome, but it's kind of selling a little so ah soft. um

neocharge: It's soft, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: We got Ghost of Yote last year, which is an amazing game from everything I've been told and it's sold really well. Not bad, not great, but pretty good. But Ghost of Yote took five years to to get out the cycle.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: Sony's ah getting exponentially longer. Mike... you know After a while, those exclusivities don't matter anymore. So if microsoft or Xbox comes back in, should I say, and says, hey, by the way, here's a console. Don't worry about needing the next Spider-Man or the the next Wolverine or the next Venom because that's still a few years down the line. But we have all of the games that you've been playing. And they come in and they pump out that library. This gives them time to grow it, make it worthwhile, and then boom, you're off to the races because everybody else, like I said, is going to be playing the PlayStation 6 handheld.

neocharge: Yeah, that's true. We have Wolverine too this year so that we've had two first party titles. But yeah, PlayStation is lacking a first party, but third party is holding them up. And second party too.

neocharge: ah There's so much to play, right?

Leon Lionheartly: That's what I'm saying. You could do that. And then yeah and then you court those third-party people in because we know Square Enix and PlayStation don't have a great relationship.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: like Why isn't Xbox getting in there, dude? Take advantage of that. Well, i guess I guess maybe that's why we saw so much shit with or we got the Final Fantasy on Nintendo..........

neocharge: Right.

neocharge: Yeah, and Revelation is coming to all platforms on launch, which is interesting, and then they're getting rebirth too. The Switch is getting rebirth. here's Here's the thing. right

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: So, if they...

Leon Lionheartly: I'm going to get that picture printed out for us, by the way.

neocharge: Yes, yes. First of all, they have the Series S, which is a dying console and needs to be killed because it's hindering multi-platform development.

neocharge: So one. Two, ah the Series X is extremely expensive, more expensive than the PS5 Pro, I believe, right?

Leon Lionheartly: ah Yes, it is.

neocharge: Yeah. Fact check me on that one. ah So they get out of the hardware game for five years and then they make a comeback. But during those five years, where do people go? They either go to, like if they're you're a hardcore Xbox fan, they don't have a console, they duck out, they're a third-party publisher, they're going to go to PlayStation or Nintendo or Steam.

neocharge: And then they're going to have their box or their new box, right? So I don't know if I don't, I don't see a win from a hardware perspective for Xbox because they got to do it soon to compete with the PS six and the steam cube or whatever the Gabe cube.

Leon Lionheartly: Gabe, get your nomenclature right.

neocharge: Uh, right, right. But they're already behind in component, uh, ordering. And right now it's just a super expensive for components and everything because of AI and all the component shortages. So,

neocharge: I don't think there's a win here hardware-wise. I think the the main win could be ah they keep their their box now and they release everything multi-platform. They get all those sales. Dude, Microsoft has always been a software fucking company.

neocharge: They don't usually make hardware. They made the Surface and they made... You saw how that went, though. And you saw how the Microsoft phone went. It's ah it's basically all failed, so...

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: i don't I don't see ah win in the hardware space for them, unfortunately. um ah yeah they just They have taught their player base that they're the cheapest place to be with Game Pass and to not buy games.

neocharge: And you can get all this shit on PC too. But granted, PC is getting super expensive. But if you have a PC and an Xbox and Xbox is like, well, you can get it on both. like I don't know.

neocharge: I don't see a hardware win for them. And yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Oh.

neocharge: And I think exclusives are still and important.

Leon Lionheartly: even if

neocharge: I really do. Because I mean, if it's the only place to play, like Wolverine, Wolverine is going to be exclusive to PS5. If someone wants to play Wolverine, they have to get a fucking PS5 Slim or a PS5 Pro. Hands down.

neocharge: Period. That's it.

Leon Lionheartly: Okay, so then i'd i'd ask I'd ask this then, Matt.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: Okay, as a counterpoint. i'm a i I'm playing Wolverine.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: There's my place there's your PlayStation fan point. yeah I'm going to play it, right? um So we're looking at we're looking at PlayStation 5 has, what, 95 million, give or take, consoles, give ish, in circulation.

neocharge: Oh yeah.

neocharge: Ish.

Leon Lionheartly: If we get the sales reports from, let's say Wolverine, I'll give you Wolverine. um how many how many yeah How many sales do you think that game is going to get?

neocharge: Four or five million.

Leon Lionheartly: so five for So about 5% to of the player base is going to buy that game.

neocharge: I'd say.

neocharge: That might be a little... Yeah, yeah. That might be a little low, though. I don't know. What'd Spider-Man sell?

Leon Lionheartly: ah Spider-Man 2 still sells well.

neocharge: Yeah. I know Ghost sold 3 million, ah and that was still successful. Final Fantasy XVI sold 3 million.

Leon Lionheartly: Okay, this would make this would make more sense. So Spider-Man 2, and that's right, because it does keep creep cropping up at the charts every now and then. um According to to what I'm getting from our AI overlords now, um it's estimated to be around 16 million, um which is fucking not...

neocharge: Okay. Well, they I mean, Spider-Man one or two.

Leon Lionheartly: Two.

neocharge: Okay. I mean, it's been out for like four or five years, right? So what are we talking? What will Wolverine sell in the first week? What will Wolverine sell in the first year? What will Wolverine sell over time?

Leon Lionheartly: Hmm?

neocharge: I probably should ask that.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, yeah. That would be a big good counterpoint. I'd say within the first six six months to a year because it's coming out in September. So that carries you over through the holiday season.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: So plus you have licensing.

neocharge: Hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: So it's going to sell really well, but you have the licensing that's going to be attached to that.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: Plus Wolverine took how long to develop?

neocharge: Right.

neocharge: Yeah. Six years.

Leon Lionheartly: Six years six years to develop.

neocharge: eight They got no yeah a little bit of trouble there and they they lost their lead creative director, but what we saw, it looks really good. So, I mean, Wolverine's a huge IP. It's in the spotlight from Marvel.

neocharge: So six months, seven or eight. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. And seven or eight, 70, you know, maybe $80 on average, yeah you know you're goingnna you're going to get a good pool of money, but then you're going to take out your licensing.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: that's going to go that's going to be ah That's going to go back to Marvel and all of their their stuff. And then you're going to eventually find yourself... My point is, you're going to look at your you're you're going to look at that profit margin and then still even then, on a smashing success, let's say it sells $15 million right out the gate, that's still only a sixth of the player base bought it

neocharge: But making making stuff exclusive is a push to sell hardware as well. Because if you want to play a Wolverine, you got to get a PS5. So this is going to sell, this is going to create more hardware sales too.

neocharge: So if you have a PS5, awesome. Wolverine, cool. If you don't have a PS5 have an Xbox you want to play Wolverine, what are you going to do? You're going go buy a fucking PS5. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Alright, so I'll ask you this.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: For the chud the chud normal people, right? um Out there.

neocharge: Chad.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, the chads. Let me set it up this way. Final Fantasy Resonance. What are you getting it on?

neocharge: Oh, PS5. That's a niche, unfortunately.

Leon Lionheartly: the The Final Fantasy Revelation... or not, uh, yep.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: Yep. Revelation PS five people are going to be dying on PS five because that's the default console.

neocharge: Yeah. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Not because Sarah said, not because of Wolverine, it's the default console that everybody enjoys. It's just, you, you kind of win by the, by that metric alone.

neocharge: but what But what has made it the default console? Partly the exclusives that you can play on it. God of War, Ratchet & Clank, Spider-Man, Last of Us. They drive sales of the console, but then you also get the perk of sometimes it's the best place to play third party because of the technological capacity of it and and the power of the console too.

neocharge: But... Like if, if someone, if someone has, like let's say Spider-Man came out multi-console and like, Hey, you want to play Spider-Man? can play it on PC. You can play it on Xbox. You can play it on PS5. People have choices there and they might get an Xbox. They might play it on PC, but no, if you want to play Spider-Man, you had to get a PS5 and that drives console sales.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, see, and I don't see that. I think back. So I think back to this way, this way from the 360. We're 360 bros, right? And then before that, I'm a Nintendo guy, but I've been playing PlayStation the whole fucking way through.

neocharge: Oh yeah. Same here.

Leon Lionheartly: So don't get it twisted.

neocharge: Yep. Exactly. Me too.

Leon Lionheartly: What got me back because I once used to buy all of the consoles and had a PC like I was on top of it all.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: Just like whatever console war boys fanboys can go suck an egg, be a gaming god. what struck ah What brought me into the PlayStation Fold was not the first party games. Last of Us was not the reason that I went for a PlayStation 5 back in the PS4 era, right?

Leon Lionheartly: Bloodborne was not that reason. What it was was in 2013 when they got up on so microsoft Xbox, got up on stage and went, oh, this is a TV. It's an entertainment system. It's a TV. It's a TV.

Leon Lionheartly: And they didn't have any fucking games because I checked on the Xbox One for almost a year and you had Rise of Rome and in in a few other small things.

neocharge: Titanfall.

Leon Lionheartly: So that yeah, Titanfall, that's what brought me into the PlayStation ecosystem. What keeps me here...

neocharge: The lack exclusives.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah No, lack of games, period.

neocharge: Yeah, that's true. They had third party though.

Leon Lionheartly: They had some, but it wasn't enough. They didn't have enough third-party people.

neocharge: No.

Leon Lionheartly: It's what happened is what's happens to Nintendo every time they think they they win the race. They get too confident, they trip over their own dick, and they forget that the third-party helped prop it up.

neocharge: Yup.

Leon Lionheartly: But my point is, you know what keeps me here, Matt, in PlayStation lane?

neocharge: Yup.

Leon Lionheartly: And what really makes me go, fuck, I need a PS5 Pro if mine breaks tomorrow?

neocharge: Well, your your digital library, the ecosystem, your trophies, your progression.

Leon Lionheartly: Bingo.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: That's the thing that keeps me here. So my point is, if mike if if PlayStation shat the bed and broke their trophy system, um and Microsoft said, hey, by the way, you still have your achievement score and all this other stuff, there's a realistic world where me, or which includes a bunch of other gamers who are not as tied to PlayStation, would be like, yeah, fuck it.

Leon Lionheartly: And they'll just go buy an Xbox. Because that's how aloof...

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: the the player base is. They would rather play Fortnite. They don't care which platform they play it on as long as they get to play Fortnite.

neocharge: Right.

neocharge: Yeah, for sure. ah But PlayStation ain't going anywhere. PlayStation is doing pretty well. PlayStation is doing okay. ah Man, if they were, like, firing on all cylinders, like, Xbox is shitting the bed and PlayStation is still beating them.

neocharge: Like, kind of tripping over their own feet every once in a while. So...

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, if I can, that's my PlayStation fanboy side right there, is which is like PlayStation. If you hadn't fucked up so bad,

neocharge: So bad.

Leon Lionheartly: With the Jim Ryan ah moves, you could literally be out. You could put a ah have put a neck on xboxes ah on Xbox two years ago and choked him out, and they we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Leon Lionheartly: But you screwed it up so bad with your studios, like ten which just indicates how bad Xbox has kind of fumbled the ball.

neocharge: Right.

neocharge: Yep.

neocharge: Right, right. Yeah, because we we just closed Bluepoint and, oh God, the Concord fiasco, the Fair Games break-in fiasco, ah Horizon Steel Frontiers, or no, Horizon Hunters Gathering or whatever the fuck it is.

Leon Lionheartly: There you go. Yep, yep. You had it.

neocharge: um The, ah yeah, the Helldivers thing, really awesome game, but they kind of fucked that up with the PSN stuff. So, yeah, I don't know.

Leon Lionheartly: I and and make it matters worse, man. like I'm not trying to shit on PlayStation here, but like we know Laufey. Is that how you pronounce it?

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Looks amazing.

neocharge: Yep. Laofey.

Leon Lionheartly: and i'm And I'm going to play it.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm a sucker. I'm going to play it. But when when the other people around outside the community say, can you do anything other than third-person action sad dad simulator?

neocharge: Oh, am

Leon Lionheartly: And the best you can do is sad mother simulator.

neocharge: yeah. Oh,

Leon Lionheartly: but but What I'm getting at is PlayStation always got good first-party games, but they also did generational resets. If you look at the PS1 with the the JRPGs that came out, and then you hit with Gran Turismo, and the PlayStation 2, we got the 3D polygonal action games, the God of War, three d PlayStation 3, we got the powerhouses of Killzone, Resistance, and then the PlayStation 4, we got Last of Us, we got the Horizon, and then the PlayStation 5, we got The Last of Us, and we got Horizon.

neocharge: oh yeah.

neocharge: We got Returnal.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Uh...

neocharge: And Death Stranding. No, Death Stranding was on 4. For real, dude. like These developers used to go to new IPs. Naughty Dog. We wouldn't have The Last of Us if they didn't move from Uncharted. We wouldn't have Uncharted if they didn't move from Crash Bandicoot. Or Jack and Dexter. We wouldn't have Jack and Dexter if they didn't move from Crash Bandicoot.

neocharge: PS4... birthed a lot of new IPs. And I'm kind of sad to see Sony Santa Monica still continuing God of War. I'd like them to work on something new. But thankfully, Naughty Dog is moving on and we are getting a new IP, Intergalactic, the Heretic Prophet.

Leon Lionheartly: ah

neocharge: But I would love to see more new IPs coming out. That's why I'm so excited. That's why I'm so excited for Pragmata. That's why I'm so excited for Beasts of Reincarnation. New IPs hit different.

Leon Lionheartly: And another game that I'm going to be turning on in about one hour and 52 minutes from now.

neocharge: Kronos?

Leon Lionheartly: No.

neocharge: What?

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, I didn't buy the physical. I bought the digital for Elliot. Elliot.

neocharge: Oh, yeah. New IP from Square Enix, dude. We're going to talk all about that because I played the new demo and I want to talk about how excited we are.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: But yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: the air I guess at the end of the day, Xbox, what are you doing? We'll care about. um I'm not going to beat on them too much unless you want to continue to beat them up.

neocharge: No, it's just negative. And God, it's it's so toxic out there. and People don't understand the business side. ah People, you know, are... the the The corporations are really not paying attention to the human side either.

neocharge: But it's ah it's just all clusterfuck. And I want Xbox to succeed because competition is good for the consumer, right? If PlayStation has competition... It lights a fire under their ass and it makes them innovative and move, keep moving forward. Right. If they become stagnant, like they did in the PS3 era, that's no good for anyone. So PlayStation does still have competition with Nintendo and steam. And honestly, when it comes to, to like time currency, they're competing against Netflix. They're competing against fucking tick tock, all everything.

neocharge: so they still have competition, but in that niche gaming space, console gaming space, Nintendo kind of already bowed out of the, the, uh, console wars and they're doing their own thing.

neocharge: So yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: And they're winning.

neocharge: Nintendo.

Leon Lionheartly: That's well in their own right.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: If, uh, if they can get this Ocarina of time remake out, holy shit. And it's good.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Holy fuck. they it'll It'll be a generational game for sure.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: And I just want to see GTA ah dethroned.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: ah So same here.

neocharge: so

Leon Lionheartly: I want to see that happen. and we You and I are on that same page. um I'll leave you with two final things.

neocharge: Yep. Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: This is more informational for you guys. ah I did look.

neocharge: right

Leon Lionheartly: So if you go to Best Buy, you can see the Xbox Series X. um Their base model is $649.99. The PS5 Pro is unfortunately a whopping, on PlayStation Direct, $899.99.

Leon Lionheartly: So there is a significant pricing difference there. But also more importantly, before I forget, i don't know why this is in my head, but if I don't do it now, I feel like I'm going to be a lying to you folks.

Leon Lionheartly: Last week, correction, I was incorrect about the um like a heaven. ah

neocharge: Stranger than heaven.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah Stranger that heaven. Thank you. Um,

neocharge: Yeah. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Tupac, we don't know the voice actor. He's there. Snoop Dogg is a separate character. You did confirm that for me. So thank you. But I wanted to clear that up from last week.

neocharge: oh yeah yeah no worries yeah because they showed them both on screen i was like yeah i mean snoop dog has a character model on there so yeah cool now we know now we know but yeah uh wrapping up this xbox stuff what we will report on it as it gets officially announced but it's terrible it's terrible for the industry

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: It's terrible for gamers. It's terrible terrible for the people losing their jobs. And like we're losing a lot of creative prowess. And i really hope these developers land on their feet, someone else buys them, and they can continue making these great games and just focusing on what they do best. It's creating the art that we gamers play.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, absolutely, man.

neocharge: So, yeah. Yep. But we'll report on it. ah Last positive piece of news before we get into what we're playing. Gameformer has announced their cover reveal.

neocharge: And holy shit, it's so pretty. ah it's It's Halo. Campaign Evolved. And if you want to check out the cover, which I'm very excited to get, ah it is a beautiful hand-drawn mashup of all the characters from Halo 1.

neocharge: Uh, and it's gorgeous. I, I love it. We'll have to put it in the discord or something. Um, But yeah, I'm actually reading it. I'm reading the digital version. It's out. And it's great. they There's like 15 pages on Halo campaign evolved and the history of Halo and how it came to be and ah how they were founded. And you know they were making Marathon and they were making like RTS games. And they originally ah developed for the Mac.

neocharge: So I bet Steve Jobs was pissed about that. And then Microsoft bought them and we got Halo. So Halo is a generational game. I'm so excited. It's coming to PS five. I hope to God that they stick to their word. Uh, and we get Halo two, Halo three, and they just keep doing this on PS five.

neocharge: I'm a big fan of four. I really liked four and four runners and everything. I, uh, that'd be, that'd be cool to, to see again.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Uh, but yeah, the, the cover, the game informers awesome. Uh, if you, I'm, I'm subscribed to the physical version, the price rose because everything's fucking raising and, you can get, you know, 12 issues for 60 bucks.

neocharge: You get one pretty much every month and yeah, they, they just make good shit free of ads pretty much. Like there's two pages of ads and it just quality shit like game informer. came back and they're making some quality stuff.

neocharge: So I've been really enjoying the Halo ah like um article in in the new issue. So yeah, shout out to Game Informer and it's a Halo campaign of all. The last one was Vampire.

neocharge: What the fuck? it What is it called? The new one?

Leon Lionheartly: The blood of Don Walker.

neocharge: The Blood... The Blood of Dawn, what? Vampire game. ah The Blood of Dawn Walker. I'm kind of checked out on that. It's just too much for September. Comes out September 3rd. No thanks. Sorry.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, it comes out at a really bad time. um How are original and daring, sir, to release in September to avoid GTA.

neocharge: Yep. Right.

Leon Lionheartly: But ah more to this ah cover story. Dude, this this are the I can't wait to get the copy on this because it's...

neocharge: Yeah. So good.

Leon Lionheartly: It's beautiful. It's gorgeous. And I am just excited to know that in just over a month, I'm going to be able to play Halo Rebuilt from the ground up with extra pre ah prologue ah missions on a PlayStation 5 Pro, which is going to be the best way to play it.

neocharge: Fuck yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: i My mind is still broken behind this, brother. This is a There are some games that are generational. This is one of them. And you need to recognize that GoldenEye did a lot for the first part ah ah FPS market um on home console.

neocharge: Yup.

Leon Lionheartly: But Halo really kind of said, let me show you sit down, son. Let me show you how you really do this.

neocharge: Right. Yeah. ah I'm thrilled. I can't wait. I played all the originals. Halo was on Xbox one and then Halo two and three. No, Halo two was on Xbox one as well. And Halo three was on Xbox three sixties. So ah three is probably my favorite, but Halo one, man, what we've seen, ah, it's gorgeous in the UE five engine and just going to get the boys together and just fuck shit up, fuck the covenant up and the flood up.

neocharge: on legendary and being that war hog and just someone shooting someone driving someone drinking a beer in the passenger seat

Leon Lionheartly: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: i i I saw ah video today. One thing that I was really worried about with the game is still there. um People got hands on with it. And of course, because if you're an OG Halo player like we are, the first thing they did is they found the Warthog and they threw a bunch of fucking grenades underneath it to see what would happen.

neocharge: yeah

Leon Lionheartly: And you could still Warthog jump, baby.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah I'm so excited.

neocharge: Hell yeah. That's amazing. Excellent. Good. Good. It's just, it's an incredible sandbox. It's fun to play you gotta, you gotta play it with friends. So we gotta, we gotta big plan to do that. We'll stream for you all. It's going to be a good time. We're going to drinking. We're going playing some halo. So on PS five, I'm going to pick up the dual. So I'm going to get the game. I got a physical and I'm going like, what is going on? I never thought this would ever happen. I'm going to pick up the DualSense and I'll see the symbols and play in Halo. You're going swap weapons with triangle?

neocharge: What?

Leon Lionheartly: ah

neocharge: What?

Leon Lionheartly: Dude, it's it's it's just unreal. um ah It's going to feel different because of the ah lack of offset joysticks, but the DualSense Edge is going to make it so worth it, man.

neocharge: Yeah.

neocharge: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Maybe like a grenade on right paddle or something like that. So, God, I can't wait. It's going fun. It's going fun. So, what we playing, Bob?

neocharge: You want to first?

Leon Lionheartly: All right. Yeah, sure. I'll cover it.

neocharge: I want to hear all about the game you're playing. Or you played it. You finished?

Leon Lionheartly: I got two of them, remember.

neocharge: Excellent.

Leon Lionheartly: um I've been actively working on two games, should I say. um So well well we'll talk about... ah let's I know I'm going to tease you here this evening, if you don't mind.

neocharge: Ooh.

Leon Lionheartly: um so I'm going to start with...

neocharge: Promise?

Leon Lionheartly: yeah of I'll take you out to dinner first.

neocharge: Promise?

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Ooh. Damn.

Leon Lionheartly: No. ah So I am playing... ah I'm a sucker, guys. Everybody, as you probably have heard, I'm a huge fan of the Xenoblade Chronicles series.

Leon Lionheartly: I've been trying to convince Matt to play it because it's it's Tails, but fucking 100 times better. I'm sorry. I said what I said. ah And...

neocharge: Damn. Damn.

Leon Lionheartly: We got the announcement on Xenoblade Chronicles, ah the Definitive Edition, a Switch 2 upgrade. I already had it in my library. For $10, I couldn't say no.

Leon Lionheartly: um So this is developed by Monolith Soft and released in 2007, originally on the Wii. So this is a... really old game that got ported. That's pretty much seen a port in every version of Nintendo's console since then. It went to Wii U. It went to the new 3DS. It went to Switch 1. It's on Switch 2 now. so um But this is an action... um JRPG, if you will. So very similar, like I said, to the Tales series. um this is got a The striking thing about these ones is the music is really, really fucking good.

Leon Lionheartly: i mean, it is legendary. You just go to any... um any like Spotify video game playlist. And I almost guarantee you Garuda Plains is on that playlist because that's how good this music is, right? um If you look at, and as well as the set pieces. So in this first one, the world is, and I'm gonna set it up to you because this is in the prologue. The world is, um is formless and ah just a big ocean. And inside this ocean are two big titans that are the size of fucking continents fighting with each other, um the Bionis and the Mechonis. And they eventually in battle ah slay each other and freeze in time.

Leon Lionheartly: um Creatures live on the Bionis and the Mechonis and there's a big war going on and things like that. um But every map... that you go to is a piece of one of these ah these creatures, these ah if you will, these titans is the best way to describe it. And the towns and everything are all there. So every part has its own ecosystem. So like if you're up near the shoulder and the head, it's really cold because you're high up in the atmosphere at that point. um When you're dead further down, the waters are more temperate. You've got beachfronts, things of that nature. um You've got tempered forests. So you've got all of this and it's really spraw sprawling. I mean, these are like MMORPG size maps, if you will, Matt.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Um,

neocharge: Yeah, you brought it over, played it for a bit.

Leon Lionheartly: um

neocharge: I watched. I liked what I saw.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, ah this is a the Switch 2 version. Runs at 60 frames, pretty much damn near locked, um which is amazing.

neocharge: Awesome.

Leon Lionheartly: They provided remixes of the audio um for you if you want, or you can listen the classic, just like they do with all the other stuff in there.

neocharge: That's cool.

Leon Lionheartly: um The only downside with this game... This is a thick boy. This is a 120-hour RPG. I'll look at the actual finish time. But my problem with all three of these, particularly this first one, is you have a collectopedia. So you collect resources on each zone of the map. And then you turn in one of those resources, and it fills out a stamp book. And as you fill out the stamp book, you get bonuses and you get rewards. And then there's built-in achievements that give you additional rewards like EXP and things of that. So you're incentivized not to just play the game in power level, but you're incentivized to engage with every single grain of this game. I love it.

neocharge: Very cool. Very cool.

Leon Lionheartly: um ah

neocharge: Yeah, it reminds me a lot of Tails. The English voice acting, like the EU voice acting is a little... let Let's go over there.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah i love it

neocharge: Let's go to the water. The water.

Leon Lionheartly: You say that until you play 2 and you get you get to deal with Pyra and Mitra and you're going to be like, oh, you're the best waifus in the world.

neocharge: Hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: I don't care if you speak English.

neocharge: Ooh. Ooh, even better than Velvet or Jade.

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, a thousand times. Holy shit, dude.

neocharge: Ha ha ha ha ha.

Leon Lionheartly: You don't know anything. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ah

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, ah but yeah, definitely. I checking it out. I'm to continue to play in the background. It's a great because I put the switch to you in my bedroom where i don't have the best quality TV there, but I'm like screw it.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm playing a switch to game anyways. So um it's a it's a calm down game, um but more importantly,

neocharge: Gotcha.

Leon Lionheartly: The big one in the room for you, man, um is I finally got around to it. I had just enough time before Elliot. In fact, about a day and a half.

neocharge: Hell yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: um I said, fuck it. And I decided to dive into Kronos, the new Dawn. um This is a survival horror from Blooper Team that came out last year. ah Excuse me.

Leon Lionheartly: Blooper team, of course, is well known for a few get ah smaller sa survival horror games, but they really got sent into the stratosphere thanks to their ah rendition of Silent Hill 2 on that remake.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: um This blue Kronos was made by a different team within ah within Blooper. um So it's not the same. It's not the same development team, um but this is a I'm going to give the setup. so I I'll do my best to avoid spoilers for y'all. Um, this is, you are a, uh, individual, let's say that is, um, been plopped down into a post-apocalyptic world. Uh, a lot of the creatures and stuff will look, think, um, I don't want to say last of us, but biomassy fleshy mass of us, a massive, uh, last of us style creatures.

neocharge: Mass of us.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. Mass of us. I like that. i'm going to coin that shit.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: Uh, that's mine now. Uh, But no, ah you go you are a traveler.

neocharge: it

Leon Lionheartly: You're literally called the traveler going through, and you have an objective to extract individuals. And the way you extract them is you find rifts and literally go back in time and extract that individual from the time.

Leon Lionheartly: um That's all I'm going to say. The story but has its own play. That's just the setup. um And the hook with this game is as you kill an enemy, you or kill a zombie, whatever you want creature, take your your nomenclature, I don't care. um You have to burn the body. Well, you should burn the body because if not, and another enemy comes up, they will literally join with that dead body and inherit, not only become stronger, but they can also inherit the characteristics of the creature that you killed. So if it'ss ah if it's acid spitting, or if it had armor, all of a sudden you're dealing with a souped up tank that can spit acid and has armor, and it gets out of control really fast.

Leon Lionheartly: um

neocharge: Mm-hmm. incredible mechanic

Leon Lionheartly: Yes. I really thought this mechanic was going to be... I believed in it because I redrafted this last year. um I knew it was going to be good. I didn't realize how good it was going to be because you get stressed out when you start dropping bodies, ah so to speak, and you're like, oh, i'm on I'm on a roll.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm going to take these guys down. And then you're pushing forward like a military style. And you're like, I gained a little bit of ground. I gained a little bit of ground. And then you hear something behind you and you realize that you ran out of fuel and yeah all of a sudden you go into full panic mode because you're like, I can't let these fuckers merge.

neocharge: ahha yeah And then they go in the animation and you just like body shot them to get them out.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: It's good it's great. um So, yeah.

neocharge: I'm so glad you liked it.

Leon Lionheartly: um Highlights of the... I will say the so Let's start with the gameplay on this. um This runs beautifully on the PS5 Pro. um sixty I had one technical issue the entire playthrough, and it took about 20 to 25 hours.

neocharge: What

Leon Lionheartly: I had one technical issue, um and that was it. So this this game sings um from that standpoint.

neocharge: happened?

Leon Lionheartly: ah Near the very end, that's all i'm going to say, is you have to slide a barrier, if you will, um to get into an area. And for some reason...

Leon Lionheartly: it would push like two inches and then that was it. And then I'd pull it back and nothing happened.

neocharge: Oh.

Leon Lionheartly: So then when it restarted the app, well, actually I closed the app and then I went to bed because it was late that night.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: started it up the next day and I was like, oh, I can push this. So it was one small hiccup and it was probably because I was on a huge like six hour nonstop session.

neocharge: Okay.

Leon Lionheartly: So it's probably on being, um,

neocharge: Oh, yeah. Maybe a memory leak or something.

Leon Lionheartly: and That's what I think. Something silly or an asset didn't load correctly.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: what i Whatever.

neocharge: Right.

Leon Lionheartly: Take your pick. um Audio design in this, Matt? is this is the kind of audio design that I expect in survival horror from now on, thanks to games like RE2 Remake.

neocharge: Oh, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: This is that same concept.

neocharge: Yep, dead space.

Leon Lionheartly: Dead Space Remake did the exact same thing here. This is what I want. I don't want just creepy noises. I want creepy noises that feel like they're echoing off the walls, on a and you're like, oh shit, where's that coming from?

Leon Lionheartly: Or you can hear it behind you, and you all of a sudden you've got to panic because you're like, shit,

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: I know there's something behind me. Do I want to run or do i and or do I want to try to take a risk and turn around and engage, right? This is how you do your audio design.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: um And I really appreciated it here because it this was the the star of the show, like flat out.

neocharge: Oh, yeah. Yep. And it reminded me a lot of Dead Space, honestly.

Leon Lionheartly: It did. And in fact, ah near the end, um and you'll know what I mean by this, ah it kind of goes from a, you kind of get into the psychological horror ah realm.

Leon Lionheartly: So get ah it got a little freaky for me in that regard. Psychological horror is something that i don't I don't do well with, folks.

neocharge: yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: At least I've noticed that recently. It kind of gave me a sense of fear. The old shoot so survival horror shooter from back in the day, um i got a little bit of sense of that where the game was trying to fuck with you um and and purposely not jump scare you, but make you feel uneasy with ah with audio and and and kind of jumps and things like that.

neocharge: yeah.

neocharge: oh yeah

Leon Lionheartly: So I think I saw a little bit in there. um We definitely saw there's some classics. you know Resident Evil is in there. There's a bit of Silent in a Hill. um The Silent a Hill storytelling in this...

Leon Lionheartly: I appreciate what they did, but I also think they went a little too cute by half with this, which is if I'm doing a survival horror game and I spend 15 hours or whatever, 20 hours trudging through your environment and I still don't know what happened because your characters, your NPCs want to speak like they're out of an Elden Ring game or a Soul Drive game, I'm going to be pissed.

Leon Lionheartly: Tell me what's going on. I'm already scared shitless. Just tell me what's happening. um So it did get a little...

neocharge: Yep. see

Leon Lionheartly: Go ahead.

neocharge: Fear of the unknown is one of the worst fears. That's why they a lot of survival horror games don't tell you anything.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: And they they make you wonder. Oh, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. Yeah. They did a good job with it. Um, not my style. It's not bad. It's just not necessarily my style. I like the more upfront, uh, style, uh, that comes into there, but, um, overall, man, this game is criminally underrated, um, online.

neocharge: Yeah.

neocharge: Gotcha.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: and I feel really bad. I don't know how many, um, sales it got, but it looks like enough because we're getting DLC soon. um,

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm going to go back and do probably a second playthrough at some point simply so so I can get the context for it.

neocharge: You should.

Leon Lionheartly: There's multiple endings. Sorry, spoiler. And I want to get the actual ending. It's survival horror. You know how this goes.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: um And I want to get and i want to get that that other ending so I can kind of get context for the DLC.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: But overall, if you're even remotely interested in and like survival horror games, highly recommend this.

neocharge: give

Leon Lionheartly: it's It's worth it. I don't know if it's on sale right now, but just put it on your wishlist and when you see it on sale, pop it in because this is a this is this was the survival horror game last year and I think it got robbed in that regard.

neocharge: Oh, easily. So would you say it's like top in your top five, top 10?

Leon Lionheartly: I'm still ah and'm still not sure.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: ah I'm still deciding.

neocharge: Yeah, you gotta you gotta see it through.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: Platinum it. You should go go for the platinum. It's not too tough.

Leon Lionheartly: dude

neocharge: And if you're already doing the multiple endings, that's pretty much you can clean up during that.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, I got to look to see because there's there's some trophies. I'm like, I'm not entirely sure I want to put the effort for it, but I definitely want to see that other ending for sure.

neocharge: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: um

neocharge: So...

Leon Lionheartly: my only My only complaint, like my biggest complaint with this is the new game plus.

neocharge: You respec.

Leon Lionheartly: they did the criminal thing. Give me something. I spent, and you'll know what I mean, Matt. I spent a an absurd amount of money and maxed out the base weapon. I won't say anything.

Leon Lionheartly: um I maxed that out early on, and i'm going to run the new game plus, and it's going to be cool to have it maxed out early on. But beyond that, I'm like, oh man, give me give me something.

Leon Lionheartly: Give me an additional unlock of firepower. Give me unlimited ammo. Give me something.

neocharge: respect

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, you can, but give me something that's going to be kind of like, oh, I really want to do it because I want to see what happens when you know I go crazy. Evolve it.

neocharge: Well, you got that last weapon that comes with you. And then the crafting its ammo is unique and you need cores. So that's a unique thing.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, I mean, it is it is somewhat in unique. I appreciate that. um

neocharge: Yeah. but I hear you. I hear you there.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, definitely. Kronos, go check it out, folks. um Definitely, I highly recommend.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: this is it If I had to put a score on it, this is an 8.5. Easily.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: Easily.

neocharge: Yep. i would I would say, yeah, eight and a half, nine. Agreed. But yeah, I played it ah during Halloween, I think. I'm pretty sure I played it in the the fall.

Leon Lionheartly: my God.

neocharge: Oh man, it hit. Yeah. Yeah, I think we we did the Halloween episode and was talking about just playing it. So yeah, I'm so glad you played it, man. It's a Bobass game for sure.

neocharge: and yeah, criminally underrated. Go check it out. Kronos, the new Don, Bloober Team. And I'm excited for that DLC. We're getting Kronos the New Dawn like or Kronos Lazarus.

neocharge: doing

Leon Lionheartly: Lazarus, which if you played the game, you know.

neocharge: Now you know what that means. ah ah ah So yeah, I'm excited for that. Awesome. What's next? What's next for you? Oh, I know what's next.

Leon Lionheartly: ah oh but i mean yeah, I know.

neocharge: In...

Leon Lionheartly: we're We're playing the same thing next, Elliot.

neocharge: One and a half hours.

Leon Lionheartly: all Yeah, yeah.

neocharge: Yeah. You got digital.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: I got physical. I got to wait for tomorrow and pick up my copy at Best Buy. ah But yeah. Yeah, let's talk about it Because i played the I played more of the demo because I was like just itching to play it. i Originally, I think I talked about it on the cast. I played... ah Elliot, uh, the adventures of Elliot, the millennium tales. That's the name of the game.

neocharge: Uh, square Enix is doing it and they basically made a fucking Zelda. It's Zelda cross final fantasy and holy shit. If you know us, those are like, Oh my God, this is a Bob and a mad ass game in the pixel art HD 2d engine.

neocharge: Woo. So, Yeah. I played the demo on the Switch. It runs night and day from Switch OG to PS5. But I recently, yeah, I recently played the PS5 demo and it's different.

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, I bet.

neocharge: It's different. You go through, it like, I don't know if it's because, like, there was a year in between when I played it last, the demo. They changed a lot, man. They, like,

neocharge: change the whole pacing and they change different areas and stuff like that. But, uh, it's gorgeous on the PS five. It's, uh, a top down isometric.

neocharge: So, and you have sprites that are running around your Elliot, this adventurer that is trying to save the kingdom. Let's just say that. And then there's a princess involved.

neocharge: She, it starts with H. I don't even know. I haven't played enough of it to get it stuck up in there, stuck up in the gray, but,

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: ah yeah, it's cool. The combat's awesome. Very varied combat. You got build crafting with like the magic site and everything like that. Oh, I can't wait. It's going to be good.

neocharge: And you're going to be playing it an hour and a half right after this podcast.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: And going to be playing it tomorrow night, probably. So I, you know, like when you get in those moods and you're like, I don't really want to play anything because I'm waiting on this fucking game. This is one of those games.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, it absolutely is, man.

neocharge: For sure.

Leon Lionheartly: um You said, when I saw it, it's like, it's a Zelda game, style game made by Square Enix in the HD 2D pixel art.

Leon Lionheartly: So the the Octopath Traveler art style. um And the main character looks like a red mage.

neocharge: Uh-huh.

Leon Lionheartly: I was like, where do I sign up?

neocharge: Yup. All right, you son of a bitch, I'm in.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah Yeah, ah you didn't ah you't have to sell it anymore.

neocharge: I think... Right, yeah. When we were on the fucking 20-hour road trip to Ohio for MAGFest, you booted it up and you're like, I've seen enough, I'm sold.

neocharge: Like, after five minutes. So...

Leon Lionheartly: I did the same thing with PS5. I played 10 minutes of the demo and was like, I don't need to see anything else.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm good. I'm going to go on.

neocharge: Yep. Yep. I played like, uh, about an hour on each. Nothing crazy. I didn't finish them. Like you, I'm, I'm pretty sold with them. So yeah. Uh, other than that, went back to Hades too.

neocharge: It's a good, uh, it's good pickup and play for sure. I beat the game. I'm working on the epilogue, if you will. And, ah You got to do so many runs, but I'm, I'm clearing like pretty consistently now with different weapon types. Like I use that weapon type I was talking about. Uh, that was very, they're all very unique weapon types and there's aspects of those weapon types. Of course, that was in Hades one. Uh, but gotta say, man, like stepping back from Hades to for a bit and then coming back to play it. Oh, it hits.

neocharge: It hits for sure. It's a very unique game. It's a pickup and play. I would say because like I got my ass handed to me the first run and then I was like, all right, shake it off. And then I fucking cleared like four runs after that.

neocharge: So yeah, dude, incredible art style, awesome music. Just oh fucking masterpiece. Yeah. Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: Yep.

neocharge: Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: um I'm glad, dude. you You hit that. You did what I was hoping you'd do is you finally got that. Because I knew you were struggling for a minute and then you hit that stride and now the game's singing to you and you feel like Neo because you can read the fucking Matrix now um and can play with any of the weapons.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm so fucking glad to hear it, dude. I was really sad for a minute there.

neocharge: yep Well, I played a lot of it, and i started getting a little exhausted from it. And that my learning curve takes a little bit, but once I get past that learning curve, I see the matrix, and I fucking own games. So I think that's where I'm at now. And yeah, I have God mode on. Yeah, I have a damage reduction buff, but whatever. i don't give a fuck.

neocharge: You played it with God mode on, too. And Bo did, too.

Leon Lionheartly: Play it how you want to play it.

neocharge: He told me he told me played a little with God mode. He let me know that. i'm like... Oh, oh, you're giving me shit for playing. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Leon Lionheartly: Uh-huh. Yeah, play how you want to play because I'm playing Elliot on hard out the gate.

neocharge: Exactly.

Leon Lionheartly: Fuck y'all.

neocharge: Me too. Me too. Or not very, there's, there's ah easy, medium, hard, and very hard. I'm going to play it on hard. I play the demo on hard.

Leon Lionheartly: Same here. That's what I'll be going for.

neocharge: Yeah. So yeah, dude, Hades is two is a gem. The story is incredible. I do like it better than Hades one, but it's a, okay. It's a better game than Hades one.

neocharge: but I like Hades 1 better still because it was new IP from Supergiant.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: It hit. it just But Hades 2 is the better game. Hands down, no question. But just like Horizon, right? Horizon Forbidden West and Horizon Zero Dawn.

neocharge: Horizon Forbidden West is the better game. It's bigger. It's longer. It's girthier. No. ah

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: But Horizon Zero Dawn hit for me because it was a new IP and it was just something very new and something very unique. So I'm the same way with Hades.

neocharge: I do like Hades 1 more just because of that uniqueness. But Hades 2... improves upon Hades 1 in all aspects. And it is the better game. so And you got to play Hades 1 to understand Hades 2. Well, not understand, but it hits definitely a lot different.

neocharge: And if you're a fan of Hades, you'll be a fan of Hades 2. They improved upon everything. And I'm still working through it, man. I'm going slowly pick it up over time. Just like this other game I'm playing.

neocharge: which like these games I can take in doses and that's Lego Batman legacy, the dark night. So I think I'm on like, I think i'm halfway through the game about 20 hours in, uh, it's a short Lego game.

neocharge: And I've, I don't know if I said this on the last cast, but, or no, we didn't get to talk about it because, uh, yeah, but this game is awesome.

Leon Lionheartly: yep yeah

neocharge: It's perfect. probably one of the best Lego games I've played. My favorite is still Lego Star Wars, the complete saga, not Skywalker saga. Skywalker saga is awesome when you're exploring the planets, but the, the levels and the, the like chapters of the main levels, not great.

neocharge: ah But the complete saga still holds a place in my heart. But I mean, this is probably second because i don't even consider it a Lego game, Bob, because it is it is not a Lego game that is styled in the Arkham style. It is an Arkham game that is styled in Lego design.

neocharge: Like it is a through and through Arkham game. And so this is developed by TT Games and Rocksteady also helped develop this game. which they made the Arkham games. You got Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight, Arkham Origins.

neocharge: ah And I mean, I think Arkham City is the best of that. And this... is a huge callback to Arkham City.

Leon Lionheartly: A tree.

neocharge: ah Very fun combat. It looks gorgeous. Like, the the models and... Like, you can you can literally see, like, the depth of paint on the faces of the models. You can see, like, where it was painted on. The fidelity and the... the ah Resolution is incredible. Runs 60 flawlessly. ah arkum the or Gotham City is incredibly lighted, dark, grungy. The combat is super fun. The story is engaging. They are mashing together all your Batman movies you love.

neocharge: And they're telling kind of a story of the legacy of Batman. very well. I didn't know how well they do it, but like you got, you got the Batman from 2022 is Jim Gordon.

neocharge: Uh, like teamed up with Val Kilmer, Batman. Like,

Leon Lionheartly: but but

neocharge: it it It works. And then like you have the origin story of Joker in the 1989 Batman with like a different Batman and going into a subplot and story arc of like the Dark Knight.

neocharge: It works. It's really good. And like there's a lot of those Leo moments where... Oh, I remember that from the... movie or and the music there they pulled all the original music the characters the only the one thing I'm i I hope gets better is what's what's the best aspect of Batman Bob what's the best aspect of it

Leon Lionheartly: Um, the, well, for me, it's always been because he's the greatest detective. It's always been the puzzle solving, but where are you leading to this?

neocharge: that's true the villains I think the villain

Leon Lionheartly: ah

neocharge: Yeah, if you if you if you strip Batman down to its parts, he's a rich guy dressed as a fucking bat, right?

Leon Lionheartly: Yep. Yep. You're right.

neocharge: and But the villains make the game. I've only seen a handful of villains, and these are like your your staples, right? The Joker, of course. The Joker is on a fucking Batman game. The Penguin, the Riddler, Two-Face, right?

neocharge: That's about it so far. And I'm like halfway. there have been some There have been some deep cuts, but just really fleeting. And they haven't been playable either. So I don't know what's going on. Because in the I've played all all the other Lego Batman games. Lego Batman 1 and 2 are really good. I haven't played DC Villains.

neocharge: As I'm saying, the villains made Batman. But I haven't played DC Villains. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: I have. o It's not that great.

neocharge: Yeah. That's what I've heard. But Lego Batman 1 and 2, really, really good. Really good. Especially the levels and everything. But yeah, I mean, I've seen other villains, Poison Ivy.

neocharge: ah But like the Arkham, so the Arkham games had a lot of villains, like deep cuts too. And there's they're alluding to other villains out there, and I hope I get to see them finally. And I hope I get to play as them.

neocharge: Because, I mean, it's a Lego game. You play as the heroes and the villains, right? So I hope that gets better. I'll report back. ah But all in all, man, playing it on the PS5 Pro, runs flawlessly.

neocharge: It's very fun. But it's very repetitive, just like Hades is. So it's kind of one I can take in doses. So I put it down for a bit. couple days later, pick it up, do a sesh.

neocharge: It's fun, right? And I got to do that with Hades, too, as well, because I can't. Just those runs are fun, but like it gets your, you're on autopilot at one point and like, it's a roguelike, right?

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. Yeah.

neocharge: It is the same shit. You get different builds. You get different, like you, you progress the story, but at the end of the day, you are doing the same shit. They do it very well. It's the best roguelike ever.

neocharge: Honestly, it's the best roguelike out there. Uh, so, But yeah, I got it. And then Lego Batman, you're you're going through the levels, you're breaking shit, you're collecting studs, you're collecting collectibles, you're progressing the story, and it's the same shit. So it's it's honestly just the gameplay loop. Every game has a gameplay loop. ah But you know it it took me, I think, three years to platinum Lego Star Wars Skywalker Saga.

Leon Lionheartly: I don't blame you.

neocharge: So...

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. I don't blame you on that one. um But I will,

neocharge: That one had a lot of... Dude, that one had the most collectibles out of any game I've ever fucking played. I think it was like 2,400 collectibles or some shit like that.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah It was a mashup of what the current iteration of Lego games is with the old school, which is the old school.

neocharge: Mm-hmm. Right.

Leon Lionheartly: It's just like, hey, you're going to keep playing. You're going to keep collecting. you're just gonna That's all you're going to do.

neocharge: Mm-hmm.

Leon Lionheartly: Like like ah Marvel Super Heroes, Lego Marvel Super Heroes. It's my favorite. I know it's a fun fact. I learned it's the best selling Lego game of all time, um but it's easily my favorite.

neocharge: Really?

Leon Lionheartly: You know, it's just collect-a-thon.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: And then you buy the time.

neocharge: Flying around as Iron Man.

Leon Lionheartly: Yes. Oh, dude.

neocharge: I love that game.

Leon Lionheartly: Every love that game.

neocharge: It's my top five. Easy.

Leon Lionheartly: Yep. ah Followed by Lord of the Rings. Goated.

neocharge: Lord of the... Oh, so good. Man, I wish the licensing didn't...

Leon Lionheartly: so

neocharge: They didn't fuck up the licensing and I could play that.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah. um

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, dude. maybe you know what Maybe we'll do a replay for that sometime. That'd be kind of cool.

neocharge: Ooh, yeah, yeah. And then The Hobbit, they didn't even finish it. they they

Leon Lionheartly: No!

neocharge: They said, oh, yeah, ah this is The Hobbit and Desolation of Smaug, and then we'll do The Battle of Five Armies as DLC or additional content.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: They didn't even fucking bring it out. just like, oh, whoops, we forgot. And now the license has lapped, so, ooh, sorry. i Remember LEGO Pirates the Caribbean?

Leon Lionheartly: Yes, another great one, dude.

neocharge: Yep, LEGO Indiana Jones.

Leon Lionheartly: Another... I didn't play that one.

neocharge: Ooh, good. Lego Indiana Jones is good. It's good.

Leon Lionheartly: Okay.

neocharge: And then, yep.

Leon Lionheartly: Okay.

neocharge: Lego Star Wars 1, 2, 3, The Clone Wars, and then Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga. There's just something about flying around with a Lego lightsaber and using the Force to break up the bricks. I literally have a life-size fucking Lego lightsaber. So...

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, no, it's, I've seen it. It's amazing.

neocharge: Yep. Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: But you're right, there's something fun of me. Oh, hey.

neocharge: a

Leon Lionheartly: But there have been some stinkers. Like I said, tried that one.

neocharge: home Lego Incredibles?

Leon Lionheartly: I tried the Incredibles. There's another one that fades my memory, but that's because it was really bad. It wasn't a good one.

neocharge: Lego Horizon of Adventures?

Leon Lionheartly: yeah That's a low blow, even for you.

neocharge: if you you hear hear

neocharge: Dude, I know. i'm I'm a huge LEGO fan and a huge Horizon fan.

Leon Lionheartly: As a Lego.

neocharge: I literally have the tall neck behind me.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: ah But there's no fucking minikits.

Leon Lionheartly: as a lego

neocharge: Yeah, I have the LEGO tall neck, the kit. ah There's no minikits. Come on, you can't have a LEGO game without minikits or at least collectibles. that Then you get all the collectibles and then it makes the the little minikit.

neocharge: So, yeah. I'm a big fan of Lego games. ah Lego Harry Potter. Gotta give a shout out to Lego Harry Potter. Yours won one through four and then four through seven.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, i've got I've got the... Because they split them as a two-pack, and I bought it ah ah cheap for Crystal when we were back on the PS4.

neocharge: as well

Leon Lionheartly: I don't know if we ever finished that, but that one's a bulky mess.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: I will say that much. I played, at least when you're doing couch co-op, it's a pretty buggy mess it sometimes.

neocharge: i I got softlocked out of the Platinum on that on PS4.

neocharge: Because I had one collectible.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah.

neocharge: There's like, I don't know, fucking like 300 gold bricks or something like that. And I got softlocked out of ah being able to collect one.

neocharge: And I couldn't get the platinum.

Leon Lionheartly: You should fire that up again and just see.

neocharge: So. Oh, I did it on PS5. I platinumed it on PS5.

Leon Lionheartly: ah All right.

neocharge: So.

Leon Lionheartly: Touche then.

neocharge: Yep. Yep.

Leon Lionheartly: ah But yeah, no, I look forward to eventually getting around to play this because I love a Lego game.

neocharge: Yeah, it's good. It's really good. It's one of the best, uh, like in the top three Lego games I've played just cause, uh, it's like, i mean, if you love the Arkham games and I played all the Arkham games, uh, Arkham city was incredible. I love of asylum to asylum is more a survival horror, honestly. Uh,

neocharge: especially some sequences in there, but it's more of an Arkham game Lego style. And that is a huge strength to it. So the traversal, like you can grapple pretty much anywhere. And then you can like, once you grapple, you can shoot up and then just glide.

neocharge: And then you you can glide for miles across Gotham city. ah The map is awesome. So, and then yeah you you have all your Batmobiles. You can literally just spawn one and it builds right in front of you.

neocharge: And then you just cruise down the Gotham city streets. It's so cool. And you have ah supporting characters. um i'll I'll tell you one since it was in marketing. Catwoman, of course.

neocharge: But there's ah Jim Gordon. There's other supporting characters. And after that, there's surprises. Oh, well, I mean, Robin, come on. We're not going to. I'm not going to say, oh, yeah, there's a Batman game.

neocharge: And um oh, spoiler, you play as Robin, too.

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: Come on, guys. Come on. And then you can think of all the other ones. But yeah. And each one has a skill tree. Each gadget has a skill tree. And each playable character has two gadgets.

neocharge: It's really good. No red brick skills.

Leon Lionheartly: I only won't.

neocharge: There's a skill tree for Batman. so that's cool.

Leon Lionheartly: That's a...

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: I'm always split on the way they went with that, with the skill tree RPG style mechanics, but I only got one to ask, folks.

neocharge: I know. Yeah. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: If I get this, I just want to be able to play as the 1960s Adam West fucking cheesiest shit Batman. That's all I want, man.

neocharge: want me tell Of course you can.

Leon Lionheartly: Go ahead. you Why couldn't you, man? I need that shit in my life.

neocharge: Yes. Dude, out the gate, when you kill someone, it goes wham or whop or blam.

Leon Lionheartly: But...

neocharge: And that's consistent in the game. So if you like the Arkham Batman games and you like Lego, this is a no brainer. Go check it out. I'm having fun with it. I take it in doses.

neocharge: I don't know when I'm going to get back to it because I'm diving head fucking first into Elliot tomorrow. Maybe I'll fire it up tonight, play a couple ah levels. But I'm um taking a little break.

neocharge: from from games in anticipation for Elliot tomorrow. so something Because I know, I know this game's going to be beefy. It's Square Enix, and I'm going to dive into it and really like get ingrained into it.

neocharge: So, yeah, I'm excited.

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, I'm curious. i'm I'm not going to look it up, ah but I'm just curious.

neocharge: Oh, the How Long to Beat?

Leon Lionheartly: Yeah, I'm curious at the how long to beat on on there. If it is there, I'm not going to look at that. um I'm actually ah looking at something else um to see.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: ah Okay, so it is not that bad. All right, go play the first edition of Xenoblade. The first one. main plus a ah Main story. So you're going to be anywhere between 60 and 80 hours for the main story plus ah plus plus the extra.

neocharge: That's beefy.

Leon Lionheartly: ah You just don't do like I did.

neocharge: That's beefy.

neocharge: What'd you do?

Leon Lionheartly: Completionist.

neocharge: oh yeah. No, I am a completionist. So I know like these games, Bob, I know myself and I know i will love them so much and I will dive in and 150 hours of my life will just vanish in a blink of an eye.

Leon Lionheartly: Okay.

neocharge: I know myself.

Leon Lionheartly: 142 hours on the first one.

neocharge: I know. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: The second one, and I did it.

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Not this long, but 255 hours.

neocharge: What?

neocharge: Ooh, damn. There's ah ah Tales of Symphonia. It's a 300-hour plat, I believe. It's fucking nuts.

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, I could see that.

neocharge: Oh, yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: I've seen some of those trophies. I'm like, holy crap.

neocharge: Yep. Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: But

neocharge: i'm I'm close to the Vesperia one, man. I am. And that's ah that's a 200-hour i'm like

Leon Lionheartly: yeah

neocharge: one. I'm like 125 into it. Gotta play the whole game again.

Leon Lionheartly: do it do it

neocharge: Do it. ah No, I want to play ah Tales of Graces. but yeah What do you say we get the hell out of here, man?

Leon Lionheartly: yeah let's go do this uh i at least want to go taste sweet sweet video games for for a few hours for an hour or two before i go to bed oh yeah yeah or the princess

neocharge: Yep.

neocharge: Elliot? Elliot?

neocharge: taste that sweet, sweet fairy. ah In element. Yeah. Cool. yeah Oh, yeah. Princess is cool. They got really good character models. I do believe she's a child, though.

neocharge: So...

Leon Lionheartly: Oh, hold up.

neocharge: I think the fairy's 4,000 years old, though.

Leon Lionheartly: Wait a minute.

neocharge: but

Leon Lionheartly: Why

neocharge: i don't know. I don't know that. Oh, that's funny.

Leon Lionheartly: ah don't you have a sit down, Matt?

neocharge: Yeah.

Leon Lionheartly: Please come sit.

neocharge: Right.

Leon Lionheartly: Why don't you come have seat?

neocharge: Have a seat. Have a seat. yeah So, yeah. Oh, man, this has been episode 56. And ah we're we're tired and we want to go play some video games. So thanks so much for listening listening. We really appreciate your support, your listenership, your involvement in the community. And most importantly, we appreciate you playing video games and loving the art as much as we do and having a conversation about it.

neocharge: That's what we like to do. So have a great rest of your evening, day, night, the morning, whatever the hell time it is.

Leon Lionheartly: Peace.