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C2 Ep. 100 Eberron Reviewed 19
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We take a look back on the past arc and answer your questions.
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Introduction and Milestone Celebration
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The following episode is brought to you by Mark Stanley, Philip Newman, Shelby Johnson, Jerry Thunes, Andy Dossett, Eric Whitman, Edvard Arnoff, Natasha Rallerson, Deavius Poptart, Rebecca Gowman, Elizabeth Clark, David Scrams, Charles Compton, Darryl Delaney, Ryan Royce, Darren Katzka, Irene Villarito, and Laura Pickron, as well as all of our generous patrons.
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with the courage.
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Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Eberron Renewed, an actual play RPG podcast set in the Eberron campaign setting. I am Jeff. I'm Phillip. I'm Trevor. I'm Randy. And I'm Eric.
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And I did not mention we use the Genesis setting, but we don't today because this is a reviewed episode. We have finished a three episode arc and we are going to spend some time talking about what went down, answering some of your questions. And not only that, this is the 100th episode released. If you don't count session zero. So.
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I realized today, but that's not important. It says 100 on the tin. That's all that matters. Literally all that matters. This is our 100th episode, so we have solicited some larger, um, uh, questions.
Special Guests and Exciting Additions
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Please welcome Matthew Mercer, Brennan Lee Mulligan, and James Damato. They're all tied up. I have no idea what they're doing here.
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Okay, so let's get right into it.
Carrion Arc and Character Dynamics
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So this arc is following the Carrion arc, and more particularly the Carrion conversation that we had with Milo, with Viggo.
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But it begins with some individual vignettes. And Trevor, this will all be news to you, because I have 100% certainty you did not listen to these three episodes. So. But it begins with Harrison Olive in the cauldron. And we find out that Olive has been asked to tutor Harbin Milhatch in Norsen's mysterious absence.
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and is asking Eris if she can do so at the cauldron. So again, I had nothing to do with this scene, but enjoying it. So if you two would like to talk about it.
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Yeah, I mean this was something that in the aftermath of Raynard's ask of bring me Norse and Millhatch and whatever that may mean, stay tuned. Obviously there was going to be fallout outside of the scope of like the players dealings, outside of what you all like in the Norse and Millhatch as the supervillain. Also Norse and Millhatch the father was also going to go missing.
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And so, yeah, I wanted to bring Harbin back into some capacity, not to like, because I liked Harbin's interactions with Aeris and Olive when we did those role play sessions with him early on, and wanted to possibly re-inject him. If Aeris would have said no, then, you know, that's fine. But that was just kind of the thought process behind that scene.
Pop Culture References and Humor
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Is anyone else unable to hear a reference to Reynard's request that they bring him Norse and Millhatch without hearing, bring me Peter Pan. Oh, see, I go to bring me Spider-Man with J. Jonah Jamieson like shaking the newspaper. I go to hook. Yep. That's also a very good, very good pull. I mean, I go to bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia. It's a spaghetti Western from the 70s.
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There we go. Now we all have one.
Aeris's Relationships and Personal Growth
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All right, then. I mean, I also I don't know that it was in. I have no idea whether whether that was entirely within Eris's character, but I also enjoyed the appearances of Harbin, who. I mean, obviously the metaphor tells us that
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Harbin is also going to turn to a life of supervillainy and that this will all end in tears, but it'll be funny until then. Yep. Okay, but yeah, it was a fun scene. So it's always fun to play Olive up against Eris, so that's always a fun dynamic.
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It feels like Olive is the only person that went, and Phillip, please feel free to tell me I'm wrong. Olive is the only person that when Eris hears her talk, Eris says, hmm, I wonder if I should think about that for a second and see what she meant rather than just what she said. Is everybody else? Eris takes everyone in immediate first blush. Here's what I took from that and I'm mad about it now. And I've judged you and defined our relationship for the next several years. Exactly.
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Which, I mean, that is true to a degree. Eris, well, I mean, that kind of showed up in that scene. Eris is struggling not to view Olive as someone she is beholden to. Sorry. Eris struggles real hard to not view Olive as a patron.
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and not because of anything Olive has done, but just because Eris is
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whole existence has been hierarchical and she struggles with a relationship that lacks a power dynamic that lacks that aspect of it and so she has a hard time with that and so but all of
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Olive has tried very hard to make it clear to Eris that that isn't a part of their relationship and that Eris doesn't owe her in any traditional sense and Eris is trying, Eris has heard it enough times to take her seriously and so when Olive
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asks her something or when all of tells her something there's a There's a beat in which Eris tries to remove Remove the filter that she wants to automatically place onto every interaction and which is how is how is this person trying to exercise power over me and How am I going to defy them? And And and take it
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more find the actual intention of it. So yes, you're right. There is a lot more critical thought, I guess, that goes into Eris's, the way that Eris hears what Olive says to her than with a lot of people.
Reconstruction of Keg Bottoms and Authority Skepticism
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All right. We move on from there to Milo and Joseph, our new friend, Milo's new friend. We don't know that guy. And yeah, about rebuilding keg bottoms.
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Now, I guess, Eric, was this the thing? You were like, I've made up this scenario. We're going to start with three little vignettes. And did you have to come up with one for Milo? Because I had mentioned Savia. Olive and Eris are automatic. Yeah. So. It was.
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It wasn't that I struggled to find something to do with Milo. The reconstruction of keg bottoms has been a reoccurring like, you know, Satan has brought it up multiple times. Milo has mentioned it multiple times.
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And so it was just kind of this feels like the right time to pull the trigger on that. And just, you know, Milo hasn't been proactive. Satan has at least projected himself as being really invested in Milo, getting keg bottoms back up. So Satan will take the initiative for Milo and help him out. And, you know, he'll foot the bill also because Satan's just that kind of guy. So, yeah, kind of guy who likes to hold the team, an ulterior motive.
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Did you not hear his impassioned speech this past hour, Randy? He cares so much. I loved it. Like, yeah, Eris' big fixation, and we'll get to this because it's later after the next step into the next episode. But one of Eris' big fixations is it's like a it's like a Marianne Peru in River City library thing where like, oh, sure, you'll own this, but they'll own this.
Character Exploration and Surprises
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This may be a reference for nobody. In The Music Man, the benefactor leaves the town of the building and all the books to the librarian. Similar idea. Neither one of them, they need each other but also could ruin each other.
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Except for yeah, Satan does not need keg bottoms But Joseph was a lot of fun to roleplay. Yes, but please talk about it I we got off track and I liked Joseph. I want to I want to believe Joseph is exactly as presented. I want to believe that I Don't know the light as a hit man, right
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Joseph Joseph's just given the plans and he builds the things that's that's Joseph steel What did you think Randy? I mean obviously you had to play it as Milo being excited as bars getting built That was the only thing that was true to that but like how is Randy? What is Randy thing? Well, I think it was I don't know that I think initially the Milo was because he's just been
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his mind has just been elsewhere. And it was almost like surprise. I mean, that's kind of that because at first he didn't really sound that excited about it because it was like, we're doing what? Wait, what? And, you know, just surprised him and it surprised me as well. It's like, oh, crap, we're going to build a tavern. OK.
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and then you know i kind of had milo warm up to that thought like oh we are going to do this okay let's go and then eric had me to roll what was it perception when looking at the plans and yeah when looking at the plans i have a pretty good idea why no you don't you failed that check
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No, Randy has a pretty clear outline. You know nothing. But, yeah, Milo doesn't see at least something. All the trap doors. Yeah. Because you have to put those on the plan. Like, you have to build to the plan.
Unclear Conversations and Character Theories
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Yeah, of course. Even if you want to be a secret, you've got to put it on the plan. Anyway, Hobb and Savia start talking about nothing in particular.
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I'm glad they, it went nowhere, and I was pretty sure it was gonna go nowhere, and that might probably be why it went nowhere. I had doomed myself to fail, but I am glad they had the conversation. I just realized, like, there's no good reason to assume that Hab and Savia are gossip buddies, you know? So I couldn't just go with it, so. But I look forward to talking to her more and maybe getting to a point where we can get some counsel information. If we're still in town, we'll see what happens.
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We all get an invite from Satan asking to meet at his home, right? Like we went to his home this time. I apologize. I don't know. I got that wrong. I mean, I didn't pay attention. We decide to all meet up early on in this campaign when you took notes. That was a good time.
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I'm going off my notes. They're just bad and I can't read my own handwriting. It's on the phone. We go to the for sales to kind of group up and talk about it. We find out that Ace is being interviewed for it.
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Some sort of back-of-house position, but Catherine sauna also got invited plan on going But sigil is not they we have to presume they were invited, but they are not Gonna be there and was it sauna that was kind of like I mean they kind of Aren't interested in talking about it, and I'm kind of not interested in pushing it. It's kind of yeah sigil update we got I
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Yeah. So Eric makes a church lady joke for one person. Um, so I'm here.
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I wrote in my notes, Eris has clearly never been a manager, and I'm trying to remember why. Oh, Eris's incredulity that Satan wouldn't know what's going on with his underlings. Her absolute incredulity. I'm like, oh yes, because certainly no person has ever done something without their superior noticing. Ever, ever, ever.
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Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and ask this question because it's gonna keep coming up and it seems silly to wait for this question till the end. Because at this point, we're talking about Satan, we're talking about murders, we're talking about attempted murders, talking about all this stuff. And Milo comes in with, well, but it wasn't Satan anyway, it was Jason what killed Kylie. And Laura has asked in part one of her question chunks, do you think Milo's theories about Jason and Kylie are true, Randy?
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Answer to your comfort level, obviously. I don't want you giving away stuff that's gonna ruin your fun at playing Milo. Does Randy think so? Yeah, is Randy? Okay, I'm gonna answer that because I try to put myself in Milo's head. Yikes.
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It's crowded with Kylie in there. Milo just can't fathom that Satan could be behind that, just based on family history. He just cannot fathom that. And I think, okay, if that was me, yeah, I'd be the same way. I just would not be able to fathom that something like that could happen with somebody that, you know, is close to my family.
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Although I'm sure stuff like that happens all the time. But, you know, but then, you know, Jason has obviously to Milo actively been trying to have him assassinated following him, failing him. So it's Jason. So, yeah, so I think Randy is kind of leaning that way also. OK. Could be totally wrong because Eric throws some curveballs pretty good there.
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I mean, I'll be honest, Jeff doesn't know what to feel about Satan. I know how Hob feels. And like, I mean, obviously, the fact that I can so clearly see, yes, obviously he's just an evil man. He rose to power in this organization. Well, no, he didn't. He was born into power, but he kept it and the organization maintains power because he's bad.
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He might not be that bad to Milo. He could be playing Milo like a fiddle. And also, bad guys are good to some people. I almost named some people who exist in the world today that I consider bad guys and decided against that. Like, Blake has friends, I have to assume.
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But people on the internet love to defend that weird nerd, so I won't say his name. I will say this, that Randy hopes for Milo's sake that Milo is right. I like that. Milo's mental health.
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Mm-hmm. It is also in this that bid I mentioned earlier where Eris is... I'm gonna get there. Milo, do you guys know that teachers' brains melt and leak out of their ears the first two weeks of May? Sorry listeners. I know you knew that. You probably forgot somewhere in the last couple of weeks, but your school's over so it's been remembered.
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Milo expresses excitement at getting his family, you know, decade's generation's family bar back, and Eris is like, what? Why? And just gets so mean.
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that this was a Jeff talking to Eris decision, not a I need to talk. It's like, I need to sit Eris down and be like, yes, you can be frustrated, but you are being a real jerk.
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Eris also rejected Satan's generous steak breakfast as well. That's true. Yes. As Philip would, I love a good steak. No one could convince me to eat 16 ounces of ribeye for breakfast.
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It's a pound of meat for breakfast You're welcome, huh
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I can't say I've never gotten up near that quotient for a breakfast. I have done like Golden Corral breakfast before and I'm not good to myself. Anyway, so yeah, so Hob and Aeris have a conversation and it actually got some, there were no direct questions and I said to the guys earlier, I am not going to begin the trend of relitigating things people say on Discord.
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But there was there was some discussion about it, and I think that it was all fair, but I want to say that
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I hoped it was coming across that Hob was speaking to Eris where she was at and not really where Hob was feeling about Milo's excitement about the bar or wanting to stay in Charlotte or any of that stuff. And maybe it didn't come across and that's fine. Maybe it only came across to Eris or nobody. That's the risk you take when you exist in the world.
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But so they have a conversation and there's no resolution because that's kind of the theme with habanero's conversation. They both just kind of go, we sure are different than walk away. I will speak one thing to to the the conversation on discord which was a there was a statement of
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not understanding why Eris, it says, and Hob, I don't want to lump Hob into Eris's conspiracy theory just for the record. Assume Satan knew all that was going on just because he's the boss. I will tell you exactly why Eris assumes that Satan knew because Eris's childhood was spent among a rigidly militaristic culture where the boss does know and is responsible for everything his underlings do.
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Yeah, Eris' experience of hierarchy is entirely different. That totally makes sense. To Eris, even if Satan doesn't know, that doesn't make Satan a good guy. It means that Satan is still responsible for the behavior of his underlings.
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I'm not entirely sure Philip entirely disagrees with that position, but that Satan is still responsible for this nonsense, even if someone did it without telling him. But- No, I will get behind that. I think that if you have a grievance in the world that involves crime and murder, yeah, you can run that thing right up as far up the chain as you want. So yeah, if a 10th tier underling from Boromar takes out a Dask person,
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Yeah, they can go up five steps if they want to, that's fair. So that's why Eris assumes that and that's why Eris holds Satan responsible and that's why Satan's protestations made absolutely no difference in Eris's opinion of Satan.
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Okay, at the end of that conversation we arrive at Satan's, we see that for some reason half the building is in the air. One wall is in the air. Boy, there was so much conversation about how that wall opens up. We spent so much time trying to picture that. I just kept putting, and in the Discord there was a lot of conversation about it too, and I just kept putting the Shia LaBeouf magic gif, because there's no other possible explanation. Half the city floats. Yeah. So, and that's the end.
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New episode starts. We sit down to eat. Some sit down to not eat. And what I have in my notes here is... Eris had her baked potato to be fair. That's true. Yes, sorry. You got your bleep finger ready, Eric. Because in my notes, I put, well, Milo just goes for it. Nailed it. I feel like he related there.
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I'm gonna wait, we'll see. Cuz man, I mean, Milo says, good. Short of a very iconic like Eric just got caught with his pants down moment from campaign one, I have never been more on my heels as a DM than when Milo just started shotgunning
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All of the information at Satan. I was I just didn't expect that at all I mean I was I was absolutely gobsmacked and I loved every man as a player just Cheering Well like and I tell you why why Milo did that well, that's the question. Yeah, please
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I mean, he's been in a really, you know, just emotionally terrible and all of a sudden, OK, now, wow. Hey, Satan's going to build the bar. You know what? It's I'm just going to tell him Milo's just going to spill his guts. He's just going to lay it all on the line. If it was Milo's just like at that point where he's
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got a he wants resolution somehow some way so he just said here it is let's see where it takes him and then here's this is and then this oh and also here's this and then and i'm sorry did you just say the word jason because i have some thoughts there too and and to cap it all off and to cap it all off thanks for rewinding the bar by the way
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I'm not sure if you care if I live or die but thank you for bankrolling my renovation
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He just had an emotional dump. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. Because he started, I mean, it started with like, hey, you just sent us on another assassinate mission. What the heck? Which we were all that's kind of what we expected this to get to. And then he just goes for it. And I mean, I should have written down every revelation that we've had that Milo shares with Satan. But obviously the biggest ones are
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The biggest one is, hey, Jason's not who you think he is. And he's been trying to kill me specifically and potentially us generally. Or if he just doesn't care about collateral damage and is trying to kill Milo, we really don't know. And then Aerys is like, well, if we're doing this, yeah, elves are everywhere, dude. We don't know what's going on.
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I do want to know. Since campaign one, I have not been as mad as I was when Satan had the gall to go, I can't believe you would think that of me. I'm really hurt. I wish you could see Philip's face. I've never seen Philip live at her puppy dog eye before. It was just.
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That's how I felt. I haven't hated Eric that much since some moments in campaign one. It's one of those things for him to quietly feel incredulous about that because it's not true is one thing. But for a man who has ordered hits probably hundreds of times before to go
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Who, me? You think, widdle me? I could never, like, buddy. I am shocked, shocked, I say. While he's signing off on another job to kill someone. I'm just amazed at the kind of person you think I am. No, in the head, thank you.
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Also in the midst of that, sorry, Eris does bring, Eris and Satan have a, I will say this, one thing I do think Satan was sincere about is realizing and stepping back from his, well, has he threatened any harm on you since then? And they go, oh no, wait, I didn't mean that one. I'm sorry, I meant that sincerely. I want to know, like, because I think that was genuine. He realized he was sounding like a jerk and didn't want to in that moment. And I like that from Eric, honestly.
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Because I think it was equally Eric realizing the way he had just asked it. But yeah, so we find out that if we, if something, I almost said if we kill Viggo, I'm sure that was the subtext Satan was considering as well. But if something happens to Viggo, he got to just pick his successor and he picks Jason and everyone's... So yeah, now I kind of believe... And apparently that's binding?
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to vego like to satan like that's why i'm starting to think maybe satan doesn't have a freaking clue what's going on underneath him if he's like i don't know you guys figure it out oh who's gonna be who's gonna be the leader of of one of the five divisions of my entire organization i trust you uh i have no say in the matter
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Yes, and I skipped the, um, after we talked about how much we disliked Vigo and how bad Vigo was, no much we didn't like working for Vigo and Satan was like, yeah, Vigo sucks. I'm with you. He's an idiot and he's untrustworthy and he's impulsive. And I need for you guys to clean up after him now. If that's, is that, that sounds good, right? And we all said yes, because
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You know the pot moves forward. We're gonna say something. I'm sorry Cuz you're am I because the head of the mob organization you worked for asked you to do it as a personal favor in fact No, yeah, yeah No, it was it's it's very interesting and immense like these are moments where I hate being the dungeon master on this show because
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like there's so much that I want to unpack from that conversation and I can't like from a from a plot like I in fact during the discord discussions I think I actually dropped the message like I typed for like five straight minutes and then just hit ctrl a delete and then just said so I just typed out a really long and well thought-out response to all these thoughts and then realized this would give away half the plot so I can't
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or just reveal motivations of an NPC that the motivations haven't been revealed of yet. So, no, I just, it was a very fun conversation to role play. It allowed me to, I mean, yeah, I appreciate the fact that Satan is a, at least for some people, a conflicted character when it comes to how people feel about him.
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because that's what I was going for because all like I'm not there's not a one to one corollary of inspiration but you know you look at like characters like Tony Soprano or half the characters in the Godfather movies and they're there as Jeff said bad people they do like morally awful things
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But your feelings about them are conflicted because they also do care deeply about some people and they do things that benefit other people when it benefits them. And so, yeah, it's just it's. Yeah, it's a fun. It explains, you know, that explains, you know, Milo's.
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picture of Satan versus like Eris's picture of Satan. And I think this is the first time we've really gotten to kind of see that distinction of Milo having been to borrow a made man in Boromar for so long versus Eris who is somebody that works for the clan but is certainly not like in the inner workings like Milo is.
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and how Satan responds to those two types of people differently. So yeah, because the only thing I will say is that, yeah, Satan walking out of that conversation, his view of Eris
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shifted greatly because he doesn't have a whole lot of exposure to you guys. Like he doesn't know you know you. And so like he definitely thought Eris was he views Eris is extremely naive walking out of that conversation in terms of her response to his thoughts and what he said. And so it's just it's a very interesting thing to kind of have an NPC that views the party in kind of a split way. So, yeah. Anyway, it was a fun conversation.
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and he loves Milo deeply. That's like a hammer or as a nail. Listen, I can't get it. He might've been telling 100% truth. He might've been saying 100% lie. It might be somewhere in the middle. I can't get into it, so.
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Yeah, so we were told to go to, I wrote down the horse place, but I remember now it's the horse and hearth. It's the horse place. Which is a bar that is, or tavern, that is patronized by monstrous races?
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Yeah, right now Where what's the chicken and what's the egg was this a desk hangout and so it's monstrous races It was a monstrous races and so no desk don't comfortable. It was actually a house Galanda Tavern so a holiday in they got taken over by desk like they rolled up okay kicked everyone out and Set up shop. I don't recall that part. I apologize
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And it's in a district of the city that, at least in the confines of this campaign, was at least previously Boromar territory. So it's also kind of, you know, Dask is set up shop in a Boromar district. Huh. I wonder if that's a little knife twist to request the meeting there.
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but uh i don't know but we get there and what we what has happened is that eric has taken the monster bucket and he has dumped it out all over the floor and we uh are gonna meet you all my fun monster voices again and we're gonna meet them all in the next episode because that's the end of this one
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I mean, we're introduced to a couple of them, a Medusa and an Oni. No, we're told that we don't meet them yet. Yeah, you get the Harpy and the Troll Ogre. It was Harpy and the Troll. Yeah, the Harpy was like, you're in the wrong place.
00:33:42
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And then the troll, the troll, the troll bartender. And then, so this is the new episode. I will admit that I did not get to listen to the entirety of this episode because my mom called me while I was driving home. Jerk. I wanted to talk to her instead because I like her a lot more than me. But so there's the
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the Medusa and The okay, so the only is who we actually are supposed to meet with the name. I can't recall. Yeah You describe the Medusa as having piercing eyes, which I thought was quite funny Thank you, but and okay explain this to me because I don't know Medusa is the D&D I mean
00:34:31
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They just don't have the word Gorgon. They call them Medusas. They do have the word Gorgon. It's just not a Greek mythology. It's a big metal cow. Gorgons aren't Gorgons. Medusas are Gorgons. It's a what now? Big who? It's a big metal cow. Real quick Google search Gorgon 5E. That's dumb. Okay no that's dope. Actually it's cool as hell. But I don't like they named it that.
00:35:01
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Yeah, can I play a Gorgon in the next campaign cuz that guy's cool. Just a big metal cow
00:35:08
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I would let Randy's character ride it. That's what we all want. He's going to do that anyway. Regardless. I'm playing a gnome. I'm playing a small gnome. I'm playing a gnome that gets made fun of for his size. That's how little I'm going to get. Kavala is the name of the Oni. Harash is the Medusa. And Zeyron is the werewolf. The werewolf. That's who I forgot. Because at what point you say the werewolf is absolutely mauling. And then you said his leg of lamb. It's like, oh, OK. That's fine.
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the job they need us to do. We have a hard out, so let's get the job they need us to do is to steal back a statue.
00:35:53
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that is also a person because like we said Medusa and and that's the last thing I do so please guys help me fill in fill in the blanks we know that the the party is for the statue the party exists because of the statue we know that it's tomorrow night
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And we know that we don't want to do a smash and grab or not smashing grab a sneaking grab at the party So we decided to try to go into the night before is the conversation we have before we get back to Eris and all this place, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm
00:36:32
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And then we get there and one of the best thing that's happened in this campaign, Harris, two young awkward people have to very quickly navigate if they're about to go on a date or not when neither of them really wants to. And it was delightful.
00:36:53
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Here's the thing, Eric and Phillip, everyone who listened to campaign one has already heard them have a dysfunctional romantic relationship, but I think this one might be cute and not sad. I also don't think it will get anywhere near romantic, but maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. But yeah, it was just a very fun, because Harbin says he has a ticket to this party. You all rolled a bunch of eight advantage and a triumph on a single roll, so one of the things was Harbin has a ticket.
00:37:22
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Yeah, in fact, I don't know if it got cut, but the way it went was Philip goes, Harvard has a ticket. Harvard has a ticket. And I loved it. And so that opens up a whole new possibility. And again, I have not listened to this since Monday night. And so if you guys can really jump in and help me with narrating the rest of this recap, I'd appreciate it.
00:37:46
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We don't go get it yet. That's for next week. Yeah, we left off where you all are resolved to go try to get it, quote unquote, tonight. Yes, we are sticking with the plan. Yeah. Then, well, if it doesn't work, then you definitely will go to the gala. If it does work,
00:38:06
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Question mark, Kasana seemed really excited to go to the Gallo with everyone, except for Milo. She hates Milo now, because Milo rejected her. That was funny. Oh, I forgot about this. Oh my goodness. Now, importantly, I believe it was Harbin, but it might have been Sauna, because they're also from a wealthy background, so they know these things.
00:38:31
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One of them did say, like, it doesn't matter if you stole the statue. They'll source another statue and have a freaking party. Yes, Sana said that. Yeah, Sana was like, OK, he's just going to find a crappier statue and be like, yep, it's good. So nobody's going to because nobody's going to say no to the rich guy who's hosting the party. They'll go. Yeah, it's great. Yes. We all love the emperor's new clothes. Man, I was right there.
00:38:56
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it.
00:39:15
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I never expected this person to show any kind of interest. How do I deal with that information? Okay. Yeah. Would you like to go with me? Yeah. Okay. And so that was the journey Harbin went on is awkward. I actually, you know, I remember saying now that we're talking, I remember saying during this, the thing about
00:39:40
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Eris is just putting out a lot of vibes and no, no, she's not. She's not doing that because that's intentional. Eris is just talking. But in a way that could be easily misconstrued. Yeah. So, yeah, it was just and then Phillips taken back in this as soon as Harbin dropped out of like, would you like to go with that? It was just a lot of fun. And then and then and then like.
00:40:11
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I think there was a question about how did Harbin feel about Eris having to ask her friends before agreeing to go on a date with him or something. I vaguely recall seeing that. Yeah, Laura asks, did Harbin not think it was weird for Eris to ask her friends if she can go on a date? Because that was the weird part of the conversation.
00:40:37
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Harbin is the kind of rich kid who has had every moment of his life planned out and dictated to him. Harbin doesn't have friends because Norsen doesn't see utility in his son having friends. Harbin sits a wrecking mark to learn and be educated.
00:40:53
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Now Harbin is back to learn artificing, to take over the family business. So to Harbin, sure, yeah. Like, Eris has a bunch of friends from his perspective, and that's awesome. And if she wants to, like, consult with them before agreeing to go to a gala, sure. Why would that be weird to Harbin? Because Harbin doesn't know what friends do. So, yeah, that's Harbin's deal in that interaction. And also why Harbin is incredibly awkward when socially talking to Eris every single time.
00:41:24
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Eris does not notice. No one notices and Harbin's fine with that. There are some aspects of Harbin's life where he's not horribly awkward and hopefully we'll get to explore that a bit. So that was Harbin's take on Eris needing to consult with her friends. After that I think we just staked out the place.
00:41:55
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We did, that's right. We just did some preparatory roles. Because Eris had the uniform for doing some work. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
00:42:10
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Okay. And I cannot reiterate how hurt Sana is that Milo turned her down when she asked if Milo wanted to be her date to the gala. So, just need to reiterate. I thought Milo said it first, yeah, but then it was like, well, if we don't have to go, then we don't have to go. Yeah, you tried to get out of it, which hurt her. That's kind of worse. You probably would have respected you saying, no, thank you, I don't want to go. Sana's not...
00:42:34
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you know, the kind of person that's going to, you know, cry into her pillow over rejection, it's when somebody's like, yes. No. On further, I'll go with you if I have to, but if we don't, then... Son has not said to go, please stay psych. All right, so questions.
00:42:55
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If you would like to ask a question, you can do so in the Discord. We have a tier that is in our Patreon, it's the question and answer tier, but we also have an open tier because we like to fill the hour. Alternatively, we did ask on the Facebook page, this time being 100th, we wanna make sure everyone, I can't promise, I'll remember to make a habit out of that. So joining the Discord is the best way to do it, and we'll talk at the end of the episode about where all of those joining opportunities are.
00:43:24
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So Darrin asks, Jeff, that's me. Are you getting what you expected out of playing a half Goliath in Shorn? Are there any remaining elements of Hobb's backstory you'd like to see feature in the narrative at this point? First off, I thought I was playing a full Goliath. Am I not? I thought you were playing a full Goliath. Am I too short? I'd happily get taller. Is he split half giant and Goliath and just mashed them together? That's my bet. Oh, there we go. That's fair. See, I didn't.
00:43:52
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I didn't know about Half Giant, or I would have gone that. I wanted to be the biggest boy, is all that mattered to me. Yes, I am getting what I expected out of playing Half Goliath in Sharn. I like being intimidating looking, even if it doesn't always work. The character build of
00:44:12
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just punchy and scary has been fun and getting to because I am me also being not able to shut up adds a fun element as well. As far as any of the raining elements of his backstory I'd like to see featured in the narrative I would like to see I would like for everyone to find out how Hob got his
00:44:35
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Morality, you know, he grew up a moral in this kind of wandering tribe There were rules but they were it was it was not like it was codified. It was yeah, it was not a morality. It was It was penal so But obviously at some point
00:44:52
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he developed some sense of empathy and I'd like and it was I mean I'm not blowing anybody's hair back to say it was during and shortly after his time at the monastery and so I'd like you know if we if we get to that that'd be fun to explore and talk about I have some ideas obviously Eric and I would work together on it
00:45:12
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So that's that. I did say ask whatever you want and I'll do my best to answer it and whoever else wants to answer it. So the next question is from Becca, and she would like to know what our preferred toast toppings are. So let's just knock that out real quick if you want to. Garlic and cheese. I don't actually eat toast, but I like garlic bread, which is sometimes tasty. Butter.
00:45:36
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or a ham sandwich. That is also, I do like that as a toast topping. The answer I put in the Discord was a thin patty of ground beef, some grilled onions, and then another piece of toast. And if you flip it over. Avocado toast, because I'm basic. It is really good, though, with some red pepper flakes. It's delicious. Yes.
00:46:05
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If I'm getting extra, it's an egg wash and some cinnamon and sugar, and then you cook it afterwards. But I just like butter and some salt, like some Maldon salt. OK. Laura wants to know, people listen, man. I don't know what to tell you. Eric, Laura wants to know, have we gotten any closer to guessing your naming system other than when you said at some point in the past that someone came close because nobody remembers that? She's right in this regard. I don't remember that.
00:46:36
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Yeah, I mean, you all figured out one of them, like just outright. And I mean, you have the Rosetta Stone. Now it's just about figuring it out because Norse and Millhatch got figured out like that naming convention. So yeah, you all got it. Just you don't know it. So anyway.
00:46:57
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Yes, people have gotten close to guessing the name system. You have not cracked all of the names though, so continue as you were. Okay, until I say otherwise, these are Laura questions. Is there going to be a... It's just an easy way to do it. Is there going to be reduced with what Raynard did when he was away?
00:47:20
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If we can schedule it, that'd be fun. But not before we record the next art, because that's in like two days. But possibly. That'd be fun. Yeah.
00:47:34
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Then it was a question about Randy believing what Milo believes. Please dear God, do we get a scene of Sana dressing Eris up for her date? He's not on this podcast, so I don't... I mean, I don't know why you addressed it to... It's a lowercase G, so we could assume she's appealing to the Game Master. I mean, none of them are, like though...
00:48:01
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Yeah, I mean that's the plan like fun shopping trip That's that that's that's in the cards unless they all decide to not go to the gala in which case take it up with them Not me, please Okay, I'm sure Okay, did you already say that you had that I know you can't go into it But what plans did Milo change by spilling everything to Satan?
00:48:26
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We haven't we haven't dressed that one. Okay, just just to keep it quick Because I obviously as you rightfully pointed out can't get into it a lot's changed a lot a lot a lot has changed a Lot of a lot of things have been accelerated by Milo's actions. I guess is the best way to put it because
00:48:45
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Yeah, even even if Satan was lying about all of it and he was aware of everything He now knows that you all know which is a problem or same was telling the truth I had no idea in which case some things have to be dealt with so either way Whatever Satan's up to you has to be accelerated. So yeah, so when the campaign ends early everyone it's Randy's fault That's true
00:49:11
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You're beloved Randy that can do no wrong. If it ends early, we don't have longer campaigns than almost every other RPG podcast out there. Next, Laura asks, Trevor, how are your pets? And are you disappointed that Raynard missed a magnificent Satan steak brunch? I'm going to shoot you straight. I don't know if she's asking about Georgie or about Arthur. Or both. It was plenty. Or both.
00:49:42
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Well, my pets are fine. They're very hot. So I got a new puppy, Nellie, and she's husky and pitbull.
00:50:00
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puppy worldwide she's a lot but she's um she's a couple months old now and i realized that she can get in and out of my backyard but i don't know how and i think she's just scaling the fence and i realized this because i had a pair of shoes on my front porch and one day one of them was missing
00:50:26
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And then I found it in my backyard. Oh, that was me. I'm both ways. And then about two days, about two days later, the other one was missing and I found it in my backyard. So I was like, no, she's getting out of the fence, going and getting stuff and bringing it back to Georgie, I think. That's hilarious. OK, we'll know. So I'm sorry. How how does the Raynard feel? I'd love you to address that. And then we're going to switch things up a little bit.
00:50:57
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Raynard about missing the Satan. When we come back, Raynard, who has professed his love for lunch a lot lately, how will he feel knowing that he missed going to Satan's and getting a 16 ounce steak for breakfast? I mean, that's pretty disappointing that Raynard did not get to be there. So he's
00:51:24
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probably gonna make special plans and arrangements with Satan, whether Satan knows it or not.
00:51:32
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OK, here's what we're going to do, because Eric has a hard out, and I want to make sure that we're able to keep it. I'm going to ask the Eric-focused questions really quickly, and then we'll jump back just in case we hit his out. So will we ever learn? This is from someone in the Discord who goes by SapientSorwood. They asked this elsewhere, but I guess they should ask it here. Will we ever learn why Kath and Sana work for the Boromar clan, given their family background?
00:52:02
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If people asked, sure. I mean, they have the reasons. And it's kind of been alluded to a little bit, but I mean, I got it written down. It just hasn't come up. Does Milo know? Would Milo know?
00:52:23
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I mean, unless it was explicitly asked of them, then they wouldn't have like, hey, my name's Sonny, here's my whole deal. So yeah. So mind your business, Milo. But yeah. As long as you're going to keep rejecting me on dates, then you never know. That'd be a great thing you can find out on a date. You can have dinner sometime.
00:52:49
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It's exactly the kind of getting to know your questions. See, but out of them, Milo is probably the closest to Sana, you know, going to the family parties and stuff. He was. Totally. He has disappointed Sana. It increases the betrayal at all. Milo probably knows more than most of the party. But still, it hasn't come up on the air yet. So yeah, you might find out. We'll see.
00:53:18
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Okay. More Eric stuff. Leopard. All right. Sadie wants to know, what is one meat that Satan wants to cook but hasn't been able to yet?
00:53:29
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I bet it's not man. Why would he have the impulse to cook that? He's a bad person. And he came up bad. Okay, bad people aren't necessarily cannibals though. I feel like you're conflating quite a bit. But there's an overlap between bad people and cannibals.
00:53:49
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I think it's interesting that you assumed that I assumed he ate the meat. You present the meat intimidatingly. God, duh.
00:54:04
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And you'd be like, we're excited to have your uncle for dinner. You've read Titus and Tronicus. Very much. South Park. Lael snail. That's the answer. Lael snail. No, he's Lael snail. I wanted to cook that. Just it'd be interesting. It'd be interesting to see how it turned out. Look, you can't weep for no more wolves to conquer if there are still worlds out there to conquer.
00:54:29
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Uh, let's see. That's for me and because they've probably never seen one in person. He's just seen picture or drawings. He's like, I wonder what that tastes like. So yeah. Okay. Um, here's one for all of us. Uh, what would each character, okay. Here's what it says. What would each care? Oh, this is from Michael Hartman on the Facebook group. What would each character slash players and GM ideal pet be? What I read was what would each character slash players ideal GM be? And I was like, I'm fine with Eric.
00:54:59
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Someone's better. I'm not answering that. Okay, ideal pet, everybody. I think it'd be cool to get into falconry. It will never happen, but it would be cool. That is a very odd brand. Giant Alaskan Malamute. I just want the biggest dog I could possibly have. Answer. Dog, I'm happy with my dogs.
00:55:27
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Uh, I think it'd be cool to have like an aquarium room. Cool. You guys all named things that are saltwater. Sure. You guys all, they're alive. You all named things that are pets. My thing was like otter. The answer is otter. My ideal pet is an otter. I want otters. I want several otters, six to eight otters. And I want to be playful and to love me.
00:55:56
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I love otters. I don't think this is a secret to the discord. I wanna have like sharks and stuff. That's what I mean. Like I want like dangerous fish. Trevor's ideal pet is not just one he can't touch. It's one that he really can't touch. One that will punish him for touching.
00:56:17
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Don't even want to look at it, really. Okay. If your characters lived in our world, what would their favorite novels be? This is Laura. Eric, you can pick an NPC. She says maybe Viggo or Olive. I don't think Viggo reads novels. Viggo reads bus stops. Viggo reads stalled oars. That's what Viggo reads.
00:56:40
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Viggo reads how to win friends and influence people. That's Viggo's top read, just on repeat. And he takes all the wrong lessons. Did he think it was satire? Like, did he think it was satire? Is that the idea? OK, Randy, did you have an answer? I thought you answered and we were talking over you. I'm sorry.
00:56:59
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No, I didn't so what kind of books Favorite novel I have a thought if everybody else is still thinking it's funny cuz it It's funny cuz it came up in the discord yesterday before this question was asked. I Don't know who has read them. Hob is basically Jack Reacher Really is
00:57:25
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The only difference between Hob and Jack Reacher is that Jack Reacher has the absolute knowledge that he is at least 95% certain to win whatever fight he's in. Because Hob's fighting skill relies on dice rolls, I can't be that cocky. I have to defer a little bit, which Jack Reacher never does unless it's part of his plan.
00:57:45
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But Hob is basically Jack Reacher and I think as a result of that he would hate those books. And probably like some, I don't know, something. Hob would probably like a farce. Hob would like importance of being earnest. Hob would like other farces. There's not a lot of novels that are farces. Jeeves and Wooster books. That's what Hob would enjoy. Light, easy, funny. Hob enjoys laughing at the silliness and peccadillos of harmless people.
00:58:16
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Not because he finds harmful people distasteful not because they're harmless but Anyway, so I think that I think that would genuinely be what I've enjoyed I Think Eris's favorite novel would be high fidelity Lots of conversations about music which Eris likes and
00:58:46
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strongly stated opinions and a group of characters that don't really grasp how to navigate human relationships successfully and are trying to figure that out.
00:59:07
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strong opinions accompanied with strong personal feelings about people that disagree with you. Oh, yeah. You're bad because you disagree. You got anything yet, Trevor? Rainard? Trevor or Rainy?
00:59:26
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Sounds like that's a no. I'd probably say something like something fantasy, like Lord of the Rings or Narnia, just to, but Roridad would read them as like a comedy. Kind of be like, oh, these are just trivial trials. Yeah. It's a lot of trouble for a single ring. Yeah. That's funny.
00:59:54
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I don't know. I don't know. Maybe the Discworld series maybe. Terry Pratchett. Okay. Milo needs something a little lighter than his melancholy mood. Sure. I think even before this, and you please tell me if I'm wrong, I feel like Milo trucked mostly in light entertainment even before his life turned south. He just seems kind of more of the
01:00:22
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pre-all of this, there was like a joviality to him. Yes, definitely. Okay. All right, let's... I like both of these. There's two. From Ophelia, what advice would you as players give to your characters? Lighten up, it'll be okay.
01:00:50
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I feel like that's terrible advice. I think Raynard is miles ahead of Trevor, so... That's terrible advice.
01:01:01
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I think, honestly, if I was really pressed to give Hob advice that would make his life better, I would say there are a billion other things you could be doing with your skill set that do not involve constantly being concerned for your livelihood and your livelihood of your friends. Like literally a billion things you could do with your skill set aren't this. Yeah, I really feel like that's
01:01:27
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the thing like most of most of Eris's current unhappiness, mostly unhappiness in Eris's life right now revolves around her job. And she has a perfectly viable alternative to that job at this point. So stop being a criminal. Just stop being a criminal, fix stuff, make people's lives better. Yeah.
01:02:00
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And I know that this is a crime-focused campaign, but I think that'd be the answer I gave to Dex, too. Or to any character I've ever played in any RPG. He's like, you don't have to be doing all this stuff. You are not burdened with Gloria's purpose for this. You just started doing it one day and you can stop. Yeah, I think real advice for Milo would be
01:02:25
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Once the bar's built, why don't you just ask Satan if you can just go back to that life? Just run some numbers and 10 bar. Stay out of the rest of it.
01:02:41
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You know, one of the tenants of good advice is that it is received and actionable. And I think that's the most likely to be received and actionable from Milo is if you're like, just just just say you just want to do this part. Just less crime, less crime, not no crime, just less. Exactly. Well, yeah, but that's all Milo knows is crime. So that's fair.
01:03:09
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Trevor, you got any advice for Raynard? Yeah, you did say Raynard should be advising Trevor, which is a terrifying thing to hear from a person you care about. I mean, definitely probably similar to Aeris. Like, go work in the arts or something. Don't keep being a terrible person.
01:03:37
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Okay. Flame asks, what's it like as content creators to have people still discovering, reacting to, and sometimes expressing strong opinions about stuff you did and decisions you made several years ago, mostly referring to campaign one, but also anything else you guys have created? I often feel bad. And the reason is not because of anything anyone is saying, but because I have no idea what you're asking about.
01:04:06
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I remember the arc of that campaign, but I remember so few NPCs of the hundreds of people that we met in that campaign. I can count the number I remember on my hands because they were actually important to Berwick and I don't remember the names of
01:04:32
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the crap Eric bleep that I just yep sorry I remember just some I remember the big NPCs who were important to our characters but I don't remember those I don't remember what I said in any given episode I remember no episode numbers and so I often feel bad like I ought to remember
01:04:52
Speaker
better or have or consult my notes or something like that. But yeah, so I'm not bothered by it at least. No, it's delightful that people are still listening to it and interested enough to have opinions about it. But I often feel like I'm letting people down a little bit because I just have no memory of most of it.
01:05:16
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I will say this, when it first started happening, obviously people weren't talking a lot about Campaign One in the past tense while it was going on, but in the last couple years as it's been going on, I have learned to not let criticism of my play get to me for several reasons. The main one being
01:05:41
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Yeah, nope, I didn't know what I was doing for a lot of campaign one. I was bad at role-playing and I was only kept around because I occasionally made a good joke and Eric likes me. I think I've gotten better. I hope, don't tell me. Please, guys, keep it to yourselves. Not that it felt bad, I was wanting to defend my decision, not even defend myself, just defend my decision. But yeah, I'm the same way. I remember, there are entire arcs
01:06:09
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Like, that I will have no recollection of. I don't think this is a spoiler issue. A few days ago, for some reason, the name Arsal Dotharn was in my head, and I could not, for the life of me, remember what work of fiction I had encountered this character, Arsal Dotharn. And it was like, later that day, I was like, oh no, you did it, dummy.
01:06:32
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You interacted with Arsal Dotharn in a work of fiction. So that's the biggest thing. I will say I love that people are engaging with it. Enjoying it or not is, or I don't want to say enjoying it or not. Quibbling with things we do does not lessen the enjoyment that I have that people are still listening and liking it enough to keep listening by any means.
01:07:00
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So, uh, a perfect example of this, um, flame brought this up in the, in the campaign one channel, uh, several days ago. And it was, wow, you guys totally jumped that. And I won't, he names a creature that we apparently jumped. And I gotta be honest, I cannot remember there being one of those creatures in the game.
01:07:24
Speaker
OK, now I've got to find the it's it's episode 122 and I have absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Oh, yeah, no, I'm with you. I don't remember that either. I understand the rest because it's about a big reveal and that like that was an important moment. I remember that. But I have I don't remember that creature being in the campaign.
01:07:46
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Like that's how bad my memory of it is. It's just, it blurs together so much. It's not that I didn't like it and it wasn't anything like that. It's just all blurs together. And so things that probably seemed really awesome in the moment, they just, they aren't the stuff that has stuck. The stuff that is stuck is really, really funny moments or really emotional moments for our characters and the big giant plot points and the reveals and the places where we were all really mad at Eric.
01:08:16
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are the things that stuck. My memory of it is just very poor. I just put a couple things in the chat because I think I might remember when we thought that thing. I remember finding several other variations of things similar to that thing. But you're right, I'm not sure I remember doing that either. I remember, again, things we can't say because of spoilers. I guess I could say that time we went
01:08:43
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That time, Eric thought he was being clear and he wasn't that anybody who's listened knows what I'm talking about. I'm never gonna forget that. I'm never gonna forget the Thorin side quest. That was so silly and fun and consequential. And also, interestingly, the only part of campaign one I can go back and listen to again is the Thorin art.
01:09:03
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Yes, that's true. I have, yes, I feel no conflicted feelings about that arc that was pure joy. Yeah. And I have actually gone back and listened to it more than once. Yeah. Because I'm proud of that. I'm proud of all of it. I'm very proud of the silly fun of that arc. You think we were good? We were good in that. Yeah.
01:09:22
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the
01:09:35
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I just really don't know how much people talk about all of that. And well, no one has anything critical to say about you or any character you've ever played. So that is the good news. Everyone loves Randy and everyone loves everything any Randy character has ever done. And I will say I'm not exaggerating. That's pretty pretty close to justifiably. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying that is that is the the yes. Yeah.
01:10:04
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I mean, about all I know is, you know what, Eric sometimes will relate to me. And I think he has said that, that they like Randy's characters, so thank you out there, listeners, I appreciate that. I wish that I had the confidence and a genuine ability, it is a skill that Randy has, to somehow light a fire that explodes a bomb
01:10:33
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that somehow creates something better in its wake. Randy will do the wildest thing, say the craziest thing, and when it's over, you're like, I am so glad Randy did that. And I don't know how he does it. And it's amazing. I don't either. I have no idea. But thank you.
01:10:51
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I mean, this arc alone, you walked into your own personal zone of truth. And then stabbed yourself in the thigh with sodium pentathol just to really drive it home. It was amazing.
01:11:05
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Oh man. Okay. Nathan Stoller has a few questions and I think we have more after that and then we can wrap her up. What is keeping Hob and Eris from leaving Sharn with how much they dislike working for the Boromars? People. Olive. Hob. Yep. That's the list. Milo. Milo. Milo's there.
01:11:31
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like I want to say my cynical answer of grist for the content mill but the truth there is actual character reason um yeah it's it's it's similar the other thing is to a much much lesser extent than Milo I mean orders of magnitude lesser extent than Milo Hobb has some fealty that might be the wrong word
01:11:55
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The Bormarz took Hob in. Hob was homeless. Hob had left the monastery. He was doing fine because he could take odd jobs. But, like, the Bormarz adopted Hob. So, it's less about leaving Sharpe. Regardless of the reason why, possibly. Possibly. Definitely.
01:12:15
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Hob has zero draw or attachment to Sharn. The city gives him nothing. He doesn't necessarily want to give up on the Bormarz and he's certainly not going to leave Eris or Milo. Probably not even Reynard. He wouldn't follow Reynard, but he wouldn't like leaving Reynard. Does that make sense? Yeah.
01:12:39
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or Kath, or Sana, and they're not going anywhere, but they'll be fine regardless. So, because one, they're rich, and two, they're NPCs, the character can just dictate they're fine, and it's done. Have the characters developed any new personal goals or ambitions over the course of the campaign? Eris, we talked about this a while ago, but...
01:13:06
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Eris in the trip to High Walls during the theater murder arc realized that contrary to what one would assume given her background, she is at least to a certain degree lucky in where she has landed as a Chiron refugee and that there's a whole lot of people
01:13:37
Speaker
who also lost everything just through a different means. And so I think that there is growing a feeling that she could do some things for them. And I think there is a, because it's Eris, a sense of anger at,
01:14:01
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how the Chiron refugees are treated by the city. And I think that to a certain degree speaks to her growing anger towards the Boromars because Eris sees the Boromars as just kind of starting to see them as parasites who feed on human suffering.
01:14:30
Speaker
Because because they are just but that's. Yeah, so to to try and do something about that, not in a big way, like she's not going to become a political activist, but she can make the lights work better and she can fix the graffiti. I like that.
01:14:52
Speaker
Has Raynard come up with any new goals? I mean, I suppose maybe some related to sobriety or something. Choir, Norse, and Millhatch. Yeah, there was that. Figure out what to do with his head.
01:15:07
Speaker
I was going to say, throughout the course of the campaign, I mean, of course, stopping drinking. But moving forward, I mean, I guess...
01:15:22
Speaker
there's a there's an acceptance of coming to terms with making things better with his family or like confronting that situation so just preparing for that I guess is that a is that an appropriate answer yeah of course yeah is it is it the answer you wanted to give and it is appropriate yeah okay
01:15:51
Speaker
I think Milo's goal is closure. He wants to find out about what happened to his wife and hold those responsible for it. And then he probably wants to take that advice of, can I just go back to the bar?
01:16:17
Speaker
You know, can I just go collect? Can I just go collect with Hob? You know, that would just give me my old life back.
01:16:27
Speaker
I don't think Hobb does, have any new goals. Hobb doesn't truck in aspiration. Hobb is a reactive person. He leaves because the stimulus has made him want to leave and then he becomes more proactive because he's got to get somewhere and start. Hobb's prime directive is help the people he likes and hinder the people he doesn't and that has not changed.
01:16:54
Speaker
Nathan asks, Raynard. Oh, I got one more. I would say another current goal of Milo and hasn't really come out in the past few episodes since it's happened. But, you know, Milo's not hearing Kylie. And he's really concerned that he's not hearing her anymore.
01:17:20
Speaker
Like it's one thing that she's physically dead, but now is she also another kind of dead, basically, I guess. So, you know, it hadn't come out, but in the times that he's alone, Milo is occasionally not so much now as initially, but seeking Kylie in his head. So.
01:17:45
Speaker
You know, that's a goal. Is she there? Is she not? And I'm sure that's going to play out at some point. Okay. Trevor, question for Raynard. Or a question for you about Raynard. How was Raynard's second lunch with Solomon? Or, oh yeah, how was Raynard's? Did you get to have the second lunch? Is that where you've been? While we were all doing these things?
01:18:16
Speaker
Maybe that should have been what I did. Maybe that was a long lunch. I'm just going to assume that I feel like they set up a time and Raynard was a little ghosted. Okay.
01:18:37
Speaker
I feel like there's some trouble in paradise now. And we'll leave her there. I dig it. Philip, Michael asks, is Tasha intelligent enough to speak? And if so, why don't we have a kit in Knight Rider situation yet?
01:18:57
Speaker
Is the intelligence the issue or is the lack of? vocalization ability Well, that would be an issue too. I mean if I mean no is the first answer The kind of elemental that Eris acquired or that Eris bound is I mean the
01:19:21
Speaker
the elemental plane equivalent of some sort of large bird, like a bird of prey or something big, something like that. So no, Tasha's not an intelligent elemental in that sense. So that was a choice because I did not want to be responsible for role-playing an elemental.
01:19:51
Speaker
And I also didn't want to force Eric into speaking for our skiff like that just There's a lot going on in this campaign and while there probably is a world where that's fun. I don't think this is it That's that's why
01:20:14
Speaker
All right, a couple more. I was off by one and I want to apologize to... Well, now I've lost it. Edvoth Arnoth, I hope I've pronounced it correctly, Eric. I'm going by what I hear Eric say in the show sponsors thank yous. He did ask a question for Eric that I missed and I will make sure that it is put in the Discord so it is addressed.
01:20:37
Speaker
He wanted to know basically when did you decide on using Spider-Man villains? Which I think is a great question. He also had two for us. First off is do you have a... No, I'm going to flip these because I don't want to end on this. Jeff, when will you start rolling well? Dog, I wish I knew. Believe me, I would like for that to happen also.
01:21:00
Speaker
We're going to jump back. Yes. And then so our last question to everyone, do you have a sense for an ending to this campaign, especially considering where you guys were after 100 episodes in campaign one and pursuant to our previous conversation? I'm just going to read the title of episode 100 of campaign one and we'll see if we know what it's talking about. Okay.
01:21:20
Speaker
Oh, what we do, because it's recovered kingdom. Chapter two, in fact, which- Is that right after? It's right after, yeah. It's Booyah Ride's death. It's magical horse. It's ghost tiger. The way I feel about- Not magical horse, resplendent horse. The way I feel about the assassination quest line and the way I feel about the thing that immediately followed it could not be more opposite.
01:21:51
Speaker
Gosh, Barrick was in a horrible place. I mean, we have a spoiler rule here, so I cannot say why, but my gosh, Barrick was, that was possibly all-time low Barrick. Yeah, I did say Ghost Tiger earlier.
01:22:13
Speaker
That's not a spoiler. You don't have context for it. We've mentioned that Borneo is part of the campaign. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I understand the
01:22:30
Speaker
the want to juxtapose, because yeah, by episode 100 of the last campaign, we had traveled the world. We had our own airship. We were demigod powerful. And clinically depressed.
01:22:46
Speaker
Yes, also that. Whereas this one, it's like we're still asking our boss's boss to tell our boss to be nicer to us. I mean, I have some thoughts. I don't want to share my specific thoughts of how the campaign ends because I would hate for it to happen and then feel like I had spoiled motivations for my character.
01:23:11
Speaker
I think it will remain small. I think if Eric were here, he would probably say we're a lot closer to the ending than we feel like or think we are, honestly. I mean, I think it's gonna, no, I have no idea what the end of this campaign is gonna be like because I have so little agency in what the end of this campaign is gonna be like. You guys have any thoughts? I feel like all the pieces are there.
01:23:39
Speaker
Um, but I don't, I don't know how they go together yet. And so neither is mine. Certainly neither does my character. So I, I feel like I can see all the pieces of what I think is the end game of this, but, um, I mean, obviously to me, it's something to do with Solomon, uh, and his plans.
01:24:03
Speaker
which I assume are bigger than replacing the Boromars on the council, because if that's all it is, then Eris is going to be like, whatever, because Eris has no concern at all for the Boromar being on the council. Who cares?
01:24:25
Speaker
So I'm assuming that there's something bigger and it has to do with like unleashing monsters on Sharn, which he's already done. I mean, without, without dismiss, if he is of the Boromars, you can't imagine his in-game. These people have nothing and I must have what they have is a weird motivation. Right. I mean, if his whole goal is take down the Boromars, he might just recruit Eris.
01:24:47
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, you could do a lot worse. Yeah, I mean, I have things like, obviously, I want to, I want for us to discover where Satan's true, you know, intent is. I want to see Vigo get some sort of comeuppance. I don't know if I want to see Vigo get murdered in a horrible passion, but I'm not against it. You know, I would love to, I, and then obviously a,
01:25:16
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Vaguely happy ending for at least one or two characters. PCs.
01:25:22
Speaker
We found the same way that's as Philip was saying it's like the pieces are there Just not quite sure how they're all gonna fit together That's all the questions Do any of you have any part and shots for a hundred episodes anything you want to mention anything you've loved particularly I think we did a favorite moment so far On episode 100 of the first campaign because that's when I said well, yeah, cuz you know in fact mine was absolutely Oh, it's when I screamed enjoy
01:25:52
Speaker
So, 100 episodes, campaign two. I have one, so I'm happy to go first, you guys need to think.
01:26:01
Speaker
I loved the first couple of down times. They were so fun to play. They were such a good way for us to figure out who our characters were, to really get to know. That's when Hobb started having fun with Aeris, and Rainard started playfully antagonizing Hobb. That's when Milo kind of cemented himself as this, what's the word I'm looking for?
01:26:34
Speaker
Gave Hob Barrier, placed everyone's bets for them. But he didn't really give Hob Barrier. He lied to Hob. No, we lied about giving Hob Barrier. He lied to Hob. Sorry, you're right. He tried to give Hob Barrier, and then lied to Hob, which was even more fun. It was hilarious. And then the dinner downtime was such a good time. I really enjoyed them. And we talked about them last review, and I would love to see them come back. But they're not as necessary now as they were then. So I think those first couple Downtime episodes really made me realize, OK, this is going to be a good time.
01:26:54
Speaker
Well, I mean, what's the first thing Milo did in the first downtime episode?
01:27:04
Speaker
I think ramming Tasha into the ram has got to be very high on my list like that. That fight was a really, really cool combat and I enjoyed it a lot. I would have to say
01:27:23
Speaker
the Milo-centric episode of the emotional dump, as it caught a lot of things off of Randy's chest. In addition to Milo. If anyone still thinks about us in a couple of years, and they're thinking of campaign two, that scene will be one of the snapshots in the Rolodex, no doubt. I think it's gonna prove to be way more consequential than we even realize right now.
01:27:50
Speaker
Yeah, I really liked the event we went to, the ball, I guess, where you all were trying to steal something and that was when I... Oh, when I couldn't steal a truck and you made out with somebody. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And got arrested, but then got not arrested. You know, sorry, go ahead.
01:28:15
Speaker
Another favorite one that I really liked was on the train, on the top of the train. You know, just the classic train going down the tracks. Hob hanging off, hanging off and hanging off for dear life. Milo gets waxed. We will end. And Raynard takes off.
01:28:37
Speaker
I'm gonna end it like this my favorite part of campaign two so far was considerably later than we all thought we were going to be able to when we met up at local in Yukon, Oklahoma and have dinner together for the first time and then went and played D&D around a table together for about four hours and The joy that brought to my heart that had been missing that for
01:29:05
Speaker
over a year at that point, it had been over a year before we finally got together. Man, that really, that did a lot for my person, just period in general, so.
01:29:20
Speaker
stop it, you're gonna make me cry. I'm about to myself. So having said all of that, and my food wasn't even that good. I still really like your time. And Trevor's, all of Trevor's food tasted like snot and metal or something. I don't know what was going on with your post COVID self, but. And finally, like 95% passed. That's so good. All right. If you would like to stay in touch with us, you can do so most easily on our Discord. Some of us are
01:29:50
Speaker
Some might say too active in the Discord. Displeasurably active in the Discord. That's me. You can find it. The link's on our Facebook page. You can feel free to send a message to the Facebook page admin thing, and we'll make sure to get it to you if you can't find it. Because Eric handles that, so I'm happy to put that job on him.
01:30:12
Speaker
We have a Facebook page, we have a Discord, we have a Instagram, we have a Twitter, all at the Geek Pantheon. The most important, most fun one though is our YouTube page. That is where, in addition to a lot of Eric's DMing videos,
01:30:28
Speaker
We have a second actual play show DMed by Philip called Kyber shards And it is what you guys are coming up into your are you in the 40s? 70s 50s. You are not that
Content Reflection and Audience Gratitude
01:30:39
Speaker
high. I knew I was behind me I'm deaf But yeah, I'm sure I'm catching up at this point. I'm gonna do my best I was that far behind You know, I think I might actually I think I am in the 50s. No, no matter
01:30:53
Speaker
Please check it out. It's very good. It's very different from what we do here. And a lot of fun with some new faces. Well, not new. Now they're 70 episode old faces, I guess. Thank you for sticking with us for 100 more episodes. If you've been with us from campaign one and followed us over to a new system and a new idea and a very new style of game, we appreciate you. We hope that we've been
01:31:22
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keeping you enjoying it, and we hope that you keep coming back.
Milestones and Future Plans
01:31:27
Speaker
I don't know, I get weird about milestones, and so I'm gonna stop talking before I go on too long. Thank you very much, and we hope that you have a great week, and we will see you next Friday with the continuation of this arc when we steal a statue. In the meantime, I've been Jeff. I'm Phillip. I'm Randy. I'm Trevor. Perfect. Good night.
01:31:54
Speaker
Stop the recording, Philip, we have to end this.