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Regional Metas with Special Guest Terry! - Episode 21
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In this episode we have special guest and Worlds competitor Terry on the show to talk about what he's up to, the latest Grand Archive format Pantheon, and the difference in regional metas. Find more Terry here: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTradingPost-team Buy a Giga-Binder here (not a sponsor): https://us.vaultx.com/collections/zip-binders/products/16-pocket-exo-tec-zip-binder?_pos=1&_fid=919384e33&_ss=c #vaultx #grandarchivetcg #onepiece #winterolympics #cardgame #tcg
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Transcript
Introduction and 'Careful Study' Promotion
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Oda's One Piece Rumor and Podcast Introduction
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Did you guys hear? did you guys hear that the One Piece was like Oda put the answer to what the One Piece was into like some kind of thing and then threw it in the middle of the ocean and people are trying to find it?
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that's not That is not a joke. That actually happened. the one The One Piece will be the friends we made along the way. It was Luffy. It was just Luffy. Hello adventurer! Have you come to the Grand Archive for Careful Study?
00:00:35
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Yes? Well you're in the right place for knowledge on the world of Cambria and beyond. Come with me and we'll get you started. Hello and welcome to Careful Study.
00:00:48
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I'm David Morris and joining me today is Steve-O, Corbin, And the guy that you've probably seen everywhere since he's trying to literally get, I think, on every single podcast these days, Terry. Hey, you caught me. or did you catch us?
00:01:07
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yeah I don't know. Maybe I caught you guys. Super happy to be here. Very excited to be on the podcast today. Well, we're we're excited to have you as as as long as we can have as many collabs as possible. I think it's fantastic to extend that community as far as we can. I know you're doing a lot of ah new stuff breaking out on your own.
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So we'll be talking to you a little bit about that.
Meet Terry: True Champion Gaming and 'The Trading Post'
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So I guess i guess we should we should kind of start with, ah for those who are uninformed, who the hell are you, Terry? Yeah.
00:01:39
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Yeah, sure. So um for the Grand Archive community, if you if you don't know who I am, um I am one of the guys who created True Champion Gaming when it first started, when the game first launched and tried to grow this game. I've been lucky enough to do well at a few tournaments,
00:01:56
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Um, and honestly, just being a part of this incredible community has been, has been amazing. But for me, um I now run a channel called the trading post. Uh, it's actually going to be a game store in Novi, Michigan that we are opening Right now, the contractors are in their building, but probably not anymore. It's getting a little late, but um we're hoping to be open here in the next like six to eight weeks.
00:02:21
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ah Pretty excited about that and getting to take on this like next chapter of trading card games as somebody who is a you know running a game store.
00:02:32
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I mean, obviously, you very much love TCGs. Oh, yeah. So opening a trading card store is very ambitious. It's not smart. People have said not a very smart thing to do. So, um you know, my favorite my favorite phrase that I've heard um going around the block is that smart people don't open card stores.
00:02:54
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And I would definitely agree with that. ah I am definitely blessed to be in a situation that I am with some partners, um that with the true store owner and us, we're all opening this together.
00:03:07
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um it is kind of an unbelievable situation. And like when I tell you that this store is going to be immaculate and that it's going to be like no other card store you've been to, I'm hoping that we can actually...
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heed that calling and answer that and be like, yeah, check this place
Terry's Journey: From Magic to Trading Cards
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out. Like, this is the truth. Um, it really is crazy. Um, it was never my intention.
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It actually kind of fell into my lap as I was leaving true champion gaming and moving on to my next part. Um, As soon as it just one thing happened and then the other thing happened, it wasn't so much like, hey, I left TCG for this or something along those lines. But one of my childhood best friends, um he has ran a card shop for 10 years. He's always been in this field, loves cards, obviously.
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And he was the original one in this situation with our other partner ah who Decided to open a car store and I got the opportunity to get in on the ground floor.
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I'm starting basically all of their online media marketing, their, their content engine. They want to create, um, kind of in the same style of maybe you guys are familiar with like star city games, channel fireball, stuff like that, where they, where they like have a so ah shop, but they also have a content engine that work like parallel of each other, but also like support each other.
00:04:31
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I'm trying my best to create, the most lucrative way of doing that. And like, we're slowly obviously getting our feet wet and getting back into it. um It's been really fun to jump back into content with people that are brand new.
00:04:45
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And so getting them like literally teaching them basics, like checking audio before you start your video and things like that. Right. Like literally going all the way back to square one. um But they've been amazing. They're working really hard. I cannot wait for everybody to see what we've been working on.
00:05:03
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I mean, that sounds pretty exciting. um I tell you that I would not be brave enough to be opening up a t a TCG shop right now. That's for sure. um But you obviously have a very storied history with ah with trading card games. What what brought you to trading card games?
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Sure. So um I'm going to show my age a little bit. you You and I can vibe with this. So um I started playing card games back in 1998 in Tempest Stronghold Exodus block of Magic the Gathering.
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um My older brother and my father both played Magic since beta. Uh, and it's me, that's me. so like, you know, I was very young and my older brother did not want me playing magic because it was his thing with my dad. Right. Of course. Yeah. And, and, uh, my dad was a really busy guy. So like getting his time was, it was important to us. So that was the biggest reason I got into magic. Cause I saw them playing and I've always been like super nerdy since I was a little, little kid loved fantasy, love adventure.
00:06:10
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Couldn't tell. Yeah, right. There's no way you guys can see all of that. um Funny story about these. I'll tell you after I finish this thought, I have horrible ADHD, guys. You might have to.
00:06:22
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It's getting to that time in the day where I'm going to have a hard time staying on on topic, you know, but um it's what editing is for. yeah True through that. True that. But I started playing back then. I fell in love with cards. and I didn't get into really competitive cards. um I mean, I played a lot of limited.
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So I learned how to draft and from like very young. That's like one of the first ways we learned how to play the game and then continue to do that. Played Magic all the way until, I mean, I took a big break, but I used to travel and play Magic around the United States a lot. A good friend of mine won Rookie of the Year in 2015 on the Pro Tour. Who's that?
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ah Ray Perez. um Sounds vaguely familiar. Funny story. Do you remember Jared Boettcher? Yes. It's the guy who won Rookie the Year but then had it revoked because he cheated in all his events. Yes. Ray is the one who got the award after he got it. Okay. You know what? I was actually going through probably last year. i was going through a bunch of various different videos about like where are they now, Magic players, and like the 10 top band pro players and stuff like that. And those names came up. Oh, yeah. It's crazy looking back at that. But, yeah, I mean, I played with that group um and a lot of other groups here in Michigan. The Midwest, you guys know, is, like, crazy for cards. And back in the days of, like, paper magic, like, tabletop paper magic, i you could go to a different 1K, 2K, 5K every weekend, Saturday and Sunday, if you wanted to.
00:07:58
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And so, like, I did that circuit through college and then – i After undergrad, I went to grad school and I got a job and stopped playing cards um because I was just too busy. And I was also playing in a touring band at the time. ah And so I was going to be... i thought that was the path I'd be on was was music. I always did. um And then things didn't work out.
00:08:22
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And I was in my master's program to become a counselor. I was working as a school counselor. And I packed up all my things, kind of had this really weird like... It's not a midlife crisis. I was 25 years old, but I basically said, I don't know what I'm doing.
00:08:37
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This doesn't feel right anymore. Quit my job, packed up all my things and moved to a city in Michigan called Grand Rapids where I met my wife. ah And the rest is history from there, man. I became a bartender again, started serving and bartending.
00:08:53
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ah The pandemic happened. I moved to where I live now. Um, and honestly, dude, I, you know, I'm, I've always had like two, three jobs juggling, you know, working a million different things. And I've worked in sales for most of my adult life.
00:09:08
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So it was a pretty easy swap. Um, I use my, I like to believe at least, cause I always say, you know, i spent like 150 grand or something like that on college and I don't use that degree, but I like to say that now that I work in trading card games, I use my psych counseling degree a lot more than I used to. You know, I just try to read my opponents and, you know, do that thing now. so
Opening a Trading Card Shop: Challenges and Community
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Well, now that you're opening a a ah card shop, you're going to be counseling many of the players who are tilted as well. i Can't wait. Happy, happy card players. Have you ever have you ever played against Corbin?
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Yeah, of course. Corbin's my kryptonite. Did you not know that? Can you read him? Is that why he's a kryptonite? It probably is because I think like, Not that, okay, this is going sound weird, but I don't mean it that way.
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There's nothing to read on Corbin, dude. No. He just, he just that it's not it's not that there's nothing going on up there, but he's just doing his thing. like No, he'll claim that there's nothing going on up here. He's just muscle memorying his way through it, and he's done it so many times, he's like, yeah.
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And so, like, this like i love playing in person more than anything it's why i don't play webcam because the strongest part of my game is the physical part of my game sitting from my opponent reading my opponent bantering with my opponent like that's where i think i draw a lot of strength in my gameplay And I can't do it with Corbin, man.
00:10:35
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he he You can't shake him. So you can't you can't mess with him. And he's just like in the zone doing his thing. I have played Corbin twice. Twice.
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And both times, like one was in a, it was at some event where we played in the scrubbed out event. I don't remember what event it was, but we played in the scrubbed out event. And we were both like 4-0 or something at this point, or like maybe four one whatever it was, in a really good spot.
00:11:04
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and we played the mirror which was fire aggro thanks i know it funny enough both times we played with the mirror yeah both times we played was the mirror and we played this corbin just turned two to me two games in a row basically and i was like yep oh it's over and then and then we went and played the fractal mirror at nationals Yes. This last year, I want to say, NA Nets, and he beat me there too.
00:11:28
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I can't, I can't touch him, man. He's, he's a monster. He's my kryptonite. I mean, i'll I'll chime in. It is weird with this. You guys have only played twice. I think I played Kaben like four or five times. Sure. And out of those, I think there's like four out of five have been mirrors too. Can you guys just stop picking the same decks that we're picking? Yeah. We can't do that, man. We're on the same same sink, man. ah Main
Competitive Play: Strategies and Experiences
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decking those guys, man. I'm telling you. yeah We're flipping coins, so I don't know what you're talking about. Dude, I know we're on the same because when we showed up with Water Arasana, you guys were also on Water Arasana, so it wasn't like a good Icebound Slam day. No, no, Do not bring it up. Don't bring it up. Oh. and emie You guys did something else there. Okay.
00:12:11
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I mean, he had a bad time. Yeah. Santa Clara. What happened in Santa Clara was I refused to acknowledge that deck because I was so tilted from getting dunked on it. And I thought it was a meme. And I was like, you can't just sit there and open triple penguin and expect to win every game. Turns out you could. And I was torn between that and Astra Arasana. And Corbin looked at me and I flipped the coin and it landed on Astra Arasana.
00:12:38
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Or maybe it didn't. Oh, no. It landed on water. It landed on water. And I went against the coin. You love going against the coin. I've heard that, dude. Steve-O's a legend for going against the coin. No, I'm not. I've heard the stories, bro. I didn't day two. I didn't day two. And then I won this club out with that deck, the water deck. And I'm like, should have won the coin. Yeah, this feels good. Yeah, it's Santa Clara. So that's my Chicago when Slimes was obviously the best deck in the format. And we refused to play it. We're like, we will not play Slimes. And so I rolled dice for my deck in Chicago and I landed on fire aggro Lorraine.
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And I said, it you can't go against the dice. So I played it. That was not the call, guys. it's so we were on for Chicago. Yeah. du it I remember hearing that you and Isaac were on it from a die roll the day on of, and I'm like, huh?
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Yeah, that was not the choice. We all had Slimes built. We had it with us. We're like, we won't play. it I think Corbin and I were the same. We didn't even flip for that. We actually just chose Philo because we didn't want to play slow. I mean, honestly, Philo's always scary, right? so like Exactly. It's always got a chance, even if it's not the best placement. You go for like a turn two kill, and they go baby green, and you're just like, right. Well, I guess I'm dead. Yep. Oops.
00:13:53
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i you know I mean, that' that's what actually you mentioned going off the rails. That's a little interesting aside. um Who are some like I'm going to ask this of Steve and Corbin. Who are some of the the more fun or interesting people that you've played at large events?
00:14:11
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um That's a good question. What? I'm horrible with names, the Steve. Steve-O. Come on, Steve. Describe the person.
00:14:22
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Contrary to popular belief, guys, that water bottle... It's only a 10 ounce water bottle. That's i actually the same one. He's been using that for years. This is a blight because this isn't even a gallon. This is only 101 ounces, which is three ounce or three liters.
00:14:40
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Walmart does not sell spring water jugs anymore or spring water gallons with the handle. They only sell Deer Park three liter waters and these things. They're not the same. It's not the gallon. Oh,
00:14:53
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I'm a fraud, dude. That's crazy, bro. yeah Actually, let me let me think about who's like interesting or enjoyable. like Enjoyable or interesting? Either or.
00:15:03
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yeah You have a memorable time playing them. Steve, ah we've never played, so you can't say me. No way. Seriously? We've never played. Wow. All right. Well, Steve's thinking I'll go.
00:15:19
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Yeah. There is a trio from Florida who travels for events. So they always come up to Bannerstone regionals. Um, their Omni IDs are Suzu, Popcat and Ryer.
00:15:31
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Oh yeah. Those three are just tons of fun to hang out with. So that's pretty cool. I love the Florida players. They're all, they're all awesome. I think I figured out mine.
00:15:42
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Um, I am going to butcher their names, but I remember playing them in 2025 Worlds. ah I want to say that one of them's name is maybe Jokel. Jokel.
00:15:57
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Maybe. I remember they're from Tasia's area in like Oregon or Seattle or something like that because the three of them are friends. We actually did some ah content with them at Worlds 2025. I remember playing against them and then getting their ah getting like a short video of them or something because one of the guys loves playing Tony and he was playing Fire Tony.
00:16:22
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The other guy loves playing some form of Wind Allies or Wind Tristan. And then I forget what the other guy was playing, but those those three guys were some of the most like chill dudes, enjoyable people I remember playing with, and they had unique decks and they were doing well with it.
00:16:37
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yeah um Again, I'm horrible with names, but those guys stand out the most to me. I've played against, the between the group of three of them, I've played against collectively all of them maybe like five times at the sense.
00:16:52
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Those are cool. Yeah. I think i my... ah is ah Is a local that usually appears at most regionals or or championships is Orobaum, Isam. He's my kryptonite.
00:17:05
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Oh, yeah. He is... It is both. When I see that I'm about to play him, i'm like, oh, crap. And at the same time, I'm just like, right, I got to be on my absolute A game because he is one of the best, if not the best Arasana player I ever encounter. And i tell you that the amount of time I've never beaten him.
00:17:29
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like a match i've taken games off of them but i've never i've never won a match versus him um and his quality of play i feel has only elevated mine to the point where other arasana players i can usually now do pretty well unless it's him it's kind of like with steve on cl like other cl players i can do pretty well steve no he was he always he always kicks my ass he He just knows your ways, man. He knows he knows what you're doing.
00:18:02
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He reads me like a book. He reads me like book. He reads me like a book. He has so much PTSD from playing against me because I've only been playing CL. If I open Advent from hand on level one, he's like... like, I've got him dead. He's like, let's just go next, bro. Let's just go next. I'm dead. It's over, man. know, I've played... I think the... I've played against this guy. You guys, I think, might know him. ah Bobo.
00:18:25
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played against that guy yeah who's who's bobo we played twice the first time was in the finals of the path of snow in fargo or no semi-finals and we had this super epic maybe it was the quarterfinals anyway somewhere in top eight um but it was this super epic three game two and a half hour match that was i was on water vanitas and he was on tristan naturally Of course. So, so I, I beat him there and I ended up winning the path of snow.
00:18:55
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I had, he was the hardest matchup on my way there for sure. And so like, once I beat him, I was in two or I had two water mirrors, but I was on Vanitas. So, but so he was just like kind of ahead back then.
00:19:08
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Um, And then I played him in this other tournament last, this, slow I don't know, six months ago now, Worlds in the finals, and he reverse s swept me, and it felt really, really good.
00:19:19
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He got, if if there was a tournament for him to get his revenge on me, man, I'll tell you what, he picked a good one. I mean, that that, that, those matches were insane to watch.
00:19:33
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I will tell you this. I mean, obviously I've told this to him, but like being able to see both of your hands during, during that match, I'm just like, Oh my God, he's dead. Oh my God, he's dead. Holy crap. And each of you making exactly the right move. It was some of the best grand arc I've ever ever seen. So I just props to you, man.
00:19:51
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I appreciate it. Those games were insane. Um, I think about them still all the time. i I refuse to go back and watch the stream because I know that I was just exhausted. I know that by the end of game five, I was not in my top form.
00:20:05
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I game one and two. I felt like I played really well. Game three and four. i had like almost unplayable hands, like not unplayable, but like they were bad. I'm not interested. I'm not interested with those. And then I got put in a situation where like,
00:20:23
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Taylor basically, so Taylor and I have have played against each other a lot in testing. Obviously, you guys know, we were working together for Nats and through Worlds, and so like we were able to get a lot of testing and and a lot of thoughts. um So we kind of know a lot of that, but he put himself in this situation.
00:20:39
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He's such a good player for doing this because I think a lot of people wouldn't have where he knew he was dead if I had the vengeance. And there wasn't anything he could do about it.
00:20:50
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And instead of trying to take some like really strange, awkward turn where he tries to set up defense or he just goes, you know what? I'm going to put him on He doesn't have that. And he has heavy burn. And I played.
00:21:02
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to make him feel that I wasn't on heavy burn, but he he just went, he's got, that's all I, if I play around that, then I can beat him. And he went with that safeguard amulet and I was like, oh my God, I'm not ready for this. crazy And then he had the blanche on top of it and he went double Cause he went safeguard. I was like, okay, I think I can win through safeguard.
00:21:21
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And then he played the Blanche too. And in that moment, I was like so thrown off and i had played through the gauntlet all the rounds. I played through all of Swiss and I had played through all of this at this point. And my brain was just like, wait a second, man.
00:21:36
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How do I beat this? How do I get through this? I have never played this deck, which if you guys know, Fiza is like ah an absolute favorite of mine. And that list was one that Caban and I have had in our pockets for like ever.
00:21:50
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And we never got an opportunity to use it. We said it like the beginning of the season that if we found ourselves in the situation going into top eight of worlds where you get to choose your deck and you know, you're going to go first every round we would play it.
00:22:03
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And that would be the only time we'd ever play it. So, um you know, it probably was not the best choice, but, but we had to go with our guns. Right. And then, ah yeah, no Taylor played so phenomenally. I think, yeah, I did that video with Dan and Taylor where we like deep dive all of those matches and like, Yeah.
Training for Competitive Card Events
00:22:21
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yeah but That was crazy. Cause that was the first time I had gone back and looked at it. um You know, i was still very happy to do as well as I did. um It would have been cool to be, you know, the champ and get my name on like that sick new Tristan. If you guys have seen it.
00:22:34
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ah Holy, that thing was sick. Pretty darn good. You got to start practicing your, start practicing your signature. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah. yeah I think,
00:22:45
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all the main guys are so fun to play because i've played against like everybody but steve so like i haven't played against you oh true david you i don't know if you and have we played yeah we have played at at a couple of the same events we have yeah i'm just i'm just bad so i won't you won't see me no no
00:23:08
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you and i are going meet in the finals of some of that now because you said that I mean, hey, if I can if i can bring that, if if I'm doing that well, that'd be awesome. Gary, just so you're aware of this going trend, ah because I made worlds in 2024, the first worlds, ah the three of us had been doing this careful study thing, God, since like right after 2024 worlds. ah Corbin made Worlds in 2025. We made it a thing to put David through training to get him ready to get to Worlds 2026. David, this year is your year. up yo did It's time, bro.
00:23:47
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The return. Steve made me play Luxem for nearly two months. I wasn't allowed to play any other deck. who I made him learn. like speaking You're going to learn interaction. You're going to learn sequencing. You're going to learn react like like limit thresholds. going to learn everything. Here you go. Life is a resource, dude. It's so good. Life is a resource. yeah Speaking of decks we either love or hate to play, what have we all been playing this week?
00:24:14
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Corbin, I'm going to start with you. What have we been playing? I've been playing good old fractals. Good old fractals. how how are you boo boh bads How are you feeling about like the new fractals and in this current meta?
00:24:30
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I like the new build. I don't like it in our East Coast meta because we have a lot of aggro. So like the build influence rejection does absolutely nothing when they're just throwing two threes at you.
00:24:45
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Turns out that deck already had a hard time against aggro, and now it's like, you know what? All those cards that were good against aggro, let's just get rid of those. We don't need those anymore. How do you feel about 3-4s, Corvin? Ugh. That's how I'm working with 2-3.
00:24:59
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ah I feel like that's like the Simpsons meme where it's just Lisa and Bart, and and Lisa's a fractal player, and Bart's just like, good old 2-3 minion will get him. Yeah.
00:25:10
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yeah so i've ended up tweaking the list a little bit i'm back on gildas um just to interesting is yeah i need something um i think caveman even mentioned he was going up in paladins as well so and i know my list is at four paladin now um but yeah pretty much it's pretty close to what caveman and tcg came up with you you cut rejections already right like you and logan cut them I was back on back and forth on them. They're in my current list. Logan had cut them for banished zone regionals and he said he didn't miss them at all. He was on more guildists and
00:25:46
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um
00:25:49
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I think it was on frostbinds too. I don't know. Frostbinds or dismissals would make sense and in like a aggro field. I know that Cabin took that list to London, and we had worked on it pretty hard, figuring out if it was still good.
00:26:02
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And I think that in the right meta, the new build of Fractals is actually just, like, insane. Like, absolutely ridiculous. Feebling Orb, in my opinion, pushed that deck way further than anything else. It's absurd. Feebling Orb is the craziest card of the game, bro.
00:26:17
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It's a good card. I love it. When that card came I just had flashbacks of, like... Does Weebs remember when Water or Arasana was good and we were using Blinding Orb without a draw? And it was the like one of the reasons the deck was so good was because your opponent just couldn't interact.
00:26:32
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like
00:26:35
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Steve, what are you been playing? I've just been playing Oblation CL. It's all he needs, man. yeah steve Steve is a new man for 2026 to the point where he originally had sworn off all bling. He is now blinging out CL completely.
00:26:52
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Oh, no. He's got CSRs in there. He's got foil, like, everything. i just picked up the level one CSR, like, two days ago. One of the Virginia guys pulled it in a pack, and he was just like, yo, do you still need CSR level one? I was like, yes, I love you.
00:27:05
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I love that. no No one on Merlins was posting them. it was so hard to find them. No, man, the the CL players that have them, dude, they don't want to get rid of them. Oh my god, yeah. yeah there's On the East Coast especially, we have ah so many ah lower to the ground or ally players. There's a couple of people that are playing like, what are CL level one? And it's just they just don't want to get rid of it.
00:27:26
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yeah But no, i'm I'm blinging CL out. I figured going to play CL. And if there's any deck to bling out, i I felt like, one, I love CL. He's probably one of my favorite champions next to Vanitas. And two, his his kit and his champion design is fundamentally going to be good no matter what because of his toolboxiness inherent in his good.
00:27:52
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We used to say at TCG when I was hanging out with those guys and doing the podcast that like if there was ever a champ that we currently have that could potentially be banned one day, it's probably Seattle just because of how powerful inherently he is.
00:28:04
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um And ah I think that it's just... It's just going to happen eventually where something happens that breaks him, right? Like some kind of interaction with a graveyard and omens and something's going to happen, but he's so strong you can damage combo. Yeah. Yeah. And now we're getting like even, you know, bigger spells probably in this next set.
00:28:25
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So like, you don't even have to play Advent anymore. Yeah. Just play the normal one that it it does better with top city. Yeah. Yeah. I think on ah maybe like four podcasts ago when we were talking about CL's new tools, I think I made the comment that CL is literally the hammer in the glass house just waiting to break it.
00:28:45
Speaker
Agreed. hey And um you your you you are like very much on like the Foe Ablation, and there's other builds of CL. Why are you on this one in particular versus some of the other builds?
00:29:00
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Because Koo sucks. ablation best Oblation just has a better matchup spread, in my opinion. You have a higher ceiling.
00:29:11
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You have the same types of tricks that you can do ah in just regular coup CL. It's just you're you don't need to run carters. ah You can still do faux combo, um except you have an un...
00:29:29
Speaker
uh what is the untargetable damage source that nukes the board for 15 you're not playing allies yourself so you don't care so it's it's i don't know it just it gets around so much more than what ku does it also beats dragon which the other version does not yeah i think that that is like a big a big thing for sure
00:29:52
Speaker
Oh, I'm back. He's back. he He's back. I said one bad thing about coup players and my name. Verizon is clearly favoritism right now. Yeah, they absolutely are. You might not have heard it, Steve, but I said the real reason is because you just beat dragon and the other CL cannot.
00:30:10
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So oh actually that's a good point, too. Yeah, you you have an actually winnable matchup into dragon. I'm like, who is just you're cooked, bro? Yeah, di you might as well scoop it up. Yep.
00:30:22
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What have you been playing, Terry? Oh, man. um Okay. I'm going to be honest with you guys. I've been playing a lot of Pantheon. ah but away But away from Pantheon, for competitive, there's only been one deck on my radar. I think if I was playing in an event...
00:30:39
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um from now until the end and of this season, like this set when RDO comes out, I don't think I would play anything other than Water Aetherwing Diana right now. I think that that deck is very well positioned.
00:30:54
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It's very versatile as long as you don't play like the all-in casino version that just loses to a Nullifying Lantern or you know like like there's ways to play the deck that feel like almost not unbeatable like every deck's unbeatable but it is a tempo deck so when you play tempo based decks that have because the deck has like a crazy high ceiling but it has a really high floor like anybody who picks it up the deck's scary just inherently but if you actually play it well it's terrifying um
00:31:28
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There's obviously always going to be luck factor and everything and and decks like that tend to have issues with um whiffing because the way your deck's built, you just kind of brick.
00:31:39
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But because we get Akamurash Whisper, It's a little easier to like get yourself out of those situations as long as you find a distant enabler early. Um, I also have played a lot of fractals.
00:31:52
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I think fractals is still insanely strong as long. And like, we don't have aggro players where I play. So like, I don't have to deal with that at all. So fractals kind of feels like the best deck in the format.
00:32:04
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Um, but, but I don't think it is. I think that personally, honestly, I think there's so many decks right now that are, that are like performing at a top tier level that there's just, it's actually kind of like overwhelming how like open it is. Like, At the same time, like obviously Sirius insanely strong, um obviously CL we're talking to CL even like you're seeing some random like Merlin decks here and there that are that are coming back to have like end up having a good matchup spread. There's always going to aggro decks.
00:32:35
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Water Diana is obviously now terrifying um and then Fraxel's made its comeback and and there's a lot of options that you could play, but I definitely would say that I'm playing water right now. I really like water and where it's at.
Water Aetherwing Diana and Current Meta
00:32:48
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i have I have also journeyed back to the ah the realm of water, but... um I am playing Niko. Niko's insane. I am playing... a cool I'm playing what are allies, Niko. So here's a 3-4. I'll just turn it sideways.
00:33:10
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Yeah. I like turning things sideways. um It's gone to... Stormthorne, back it up too. Those allies are terrifying. Yeah, Stormthorne's really good.
00:33:21
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Stormthorne's insane. So, like, I've been going through multiple iterations of it right now, and I have, like, I'm on, like, a unique ally build right now. And let me tell you, when someone tries to Polaris your board and you toss out a castling boon, they are very sad if you give your allies plus three health.
00:33:43
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Yeah, I believe that. Because they've already tried to kill them for the massive health that they have, and then, oops, they're very healthy. so i'm enjoying I'm enjoying it quite a lot.
00:33:56
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have you So how how have you felt about the the new card that Nico is getting to play with? So it's interesting because because we have so high aggro around here, i don't always feel I have an opportunity to bring it out.
00:34:14
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Sure. Because it requires a fair amount of commitment to get it down. Because you want you want you want to get a decent amount of lash counters on when you sacrifice it to get that slam. um I love that I can play slam again.
00:34:30
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um But mostly I've found that when I get the opportunity to do it, um people are still very s sad sad to be slammed. I'll tell you that much. but IBS sucks, man.
00:34:45
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Nobody wants that. I'm putting it that way. Nobody wants that. yeah No, no, no. It did nothing wrong.
00:34:53
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Honestly, that card should have been Nico bonus from the start. Yeah, it would have been fine if it was just all Guardian bonus or something along those lines. Guardian or Nico. Yeah, it just it should have had a bonus from the start. And then then we wouldn't be in this predicament where it had to be banned because it was too good.
00:35:10
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Hey, it's not as good OG3 visits, man. who I can't until we get to that point in the series, dude. I am so ready to play Corbin with that Vanitas. Oh, that's going to be crazy, dude. Oh, yes. our Our series going through past metas. Yeah, i love it.
00:35:28
Speaker
I love it. So great. Viewers, if you haven't seen it yet, please check out our Recollection series. The first first episode is up now with a classic Rai versus Lorraine matchup.
00:35:39
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It's very fun. It's very fun. So we actually did briefly touch base on the fact that East Coast meta is is very ally heavy.
00:35:50
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Where you're at, you don't see a lot of ally decks, Terry. We had two regionals that were on the exact same day. Both of them were were were streamed and broadcast. We had a lot of people hopping back and forth between the Banish Zone and the NorCal regional. And I'm looking at the breakdown here. And as far as like percentage wise, we see as we see a heavy favor towards fire um on on PA side.
00:36:24
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But outside of like there being seven, there were seven Saryu decks, six Crux Warrior decks, and then five Shadow Strikes. it's It's actually like it's pretty distributed fairly evenly everywhere. Just a lot of ah lot of aggro beats. And then we look over at NorCal and it's 13 Water Aether Wing decks.
00:36:49
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Dude, they must say I think they read into the future and watch this podcast then.
00:36:55
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So Steve, I know you look a lot about the differences between you know the West Coast, East Coast, and Southeast Asia and how we all have these these kind of like pocket metas. What is your take on the differences between these these two regionals here?
00:37:11
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ah For like why they are the way that they are? Sure. Or any insights that you might get that you might that you might be gleaning from what you see in the top eight or just the amount of particular decks people are bringing to these regionals. um i i I can't speak too much on the West Coast on this, but this is just from my perspective from but speaking to and just witnessing the East Coast players.
00:37:33
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ah East Coast players, from what I understand, tend to be more willing to play what I'll call B-tier decks or decks that maybe not are mainstream. they're more willing to play these a little out there decks. We have players that are just like in the case of Esom, they like just play Arasana and that's it. But we also have players that are ah not just diehards to those decks that aren't in favor right now, but also willing to just try anything.
00:38:02
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We've got players that used to play Jhin all the time, now play Lorraine. We've got players that used to play Lorraine all the time, then try Water Kong Ming. I mean, our regional, if I remember correctly, had the first Water Terra Kong Ming top.
00:38:15
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And it was it was by actually one of the locals at AU where you play at, David. And it was just... everyone lost their minds because they were willing to try something different.
00:38:26
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So and that's at least from my perspective. They were actually working with someone on the on the West Coast with that deck. Don't say that. That throws out my entire argument. Either way, though, communicating with the West Coast, I don't know if the West Coast player ended up doing that themselves, but it's just the willingness that I noticed from the East Coast players to be able to to do those things and take those risks.
00:38:49
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Sure. It sounds like, and and, you know, normally I say East Coast seems to be like more aggressive to me when I like go to those events versus West Coast. um I definitely can agree with you there, but apparently, i i mean, i consider Water Aetherwing Diana to be a pretty aggressive deck.
00:39:07
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ah So I think that the fact that they had such a high representation of that, I mean, obviously
Pantheon Format: Casual Play with Depth
00:39:12
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the deck's really powerful. I knew before I've been watching this that so much of the West Coast is on that deck because they just know inherently it's just it's one of those decks that's just powerful inherently, right? It's just water tempo. It's the same water allies. Like you said, you can play water Nico. You can play it five different ways.
00:39:28
Speaker
When you just play it allies, man, it's it's just crazy powerful no matter what. Turns out Frostworn Paladin and... all of these really powerful water cards just get the job done still in 2026. So it's like... Who would have thought Frostwind's still good? yeah I will throw some shade at West Coast. We'll just put the NPC meme up here. should play Water Aether Wing Diana.
00:39:51
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i should play Water Aether... Oh, yeah so so in their top... and there i this is going to throw some shade some shade on you. Duck Hatch was playing Kusiel, and he got number one. so Don't get me wrong. Kusiel is not a bad deck. I mean, in our regional, we had a Will, I think, top forward, right?
00:40:15
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Yeah, Will top forward. And Mitch top 16 with it.
00:40:21
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No, there's actually one other Ablation seal. This goes back to a question you ask me all the time, David, which is why don't we see X? Like, ask yourself, how many Ablation players are there?
00:40:32
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Right. If Duck Hats was playing Ablation, he have gotten first? Probably. i mean, the deck plays a bit damn similar. i don't think it would have made that big of a difference. Right. But you you look at ah third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh.
00:40:47
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Oh, I'm sorry, not fourth. But there's one, two, three, four Aether Wing Dianas, like almost all right in a row there. And then you go down to 10th Aether Wing Diana. And then eleventh fire Aether Wing Diana. so I love that deck.
00:41:03
Speaker
I love that deck, man. Seems that Aether Wing Diana is doing a lot of things. What what does Aether Wing Diana fear? What does she not want to see?
00:41:15
Speaker
Song of Frost. Vanish from Sight. Yeah, Vanish from Sight's a good one. Shroud and Maze. Fine Lantern. No Lantern. Censor. Censor when they don't have an answer, that one hurts. Yeah, Censor shuts that deck down so hard. I think Censor hurts it the most. Like, if when Censor hits, if they don't have a way to deal with it, they go, uh-oh. Uh-oh.
00:41:36
Speaker
Apparently. Whoops. Uh-oh. Now that I think about it, with the way my Neko deck is built, I could actually put Censor in there without it even damaging my gameplay. Yeah.
00:41:50
Speaker
Because, yes, do I care about losing some of my float? Eh. Eh. i umm I still got beats. I'm looking at these Water Aetherwing Dianalists, and not many of them are running anything that removes stealth.
00:42:05
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I think that's going to have to change once people start just spamming stealth cards. What's crazy is that it was on it. They they were playing cards, and then, like, the last couple weeks since, like, Michigan Regionals...
00:42:19
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All of the regionals in the list have slowly cut all of their like anti stealth stuff out of the side. um I think they are are kind of leaning towards more cards for the mirror now. And they didn't know what else to cut.
00:42:34
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And so they just ended up cutting those, which I don't necessarily agree with. But I mean, hey. <unk> working for these guys apparently i mean i think that probably makes sense if you expect majority of your field that you're going to be facing being the mirror yeah yeah sideboard to your local meta yes amen always like always sideboard to your local meta i see shorts that tell me that all the time crazy where'd you see those are pretty good shorts don't you think yeah they're great speaking of which speaking of which we have a we have a fantastic one coming up soon and it's all horses
00:43:05
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Let's go. If you didn't see round one of our regional and Dan gasping for words to describe this horse deck, you're going to see the horse deck.
00:43:17
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Love it. ah So for the East Coast, we had Winsiryu just take it all. They went seven and zero we had we had an We only had two matches last round who I did, which was awesome. Everyone kept fighting it out because people wanted that money. because Money's great. So they wanted that money. Kem Collapse came in 7-0 undefeated with Winsiryu.
00:43:42
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He is one of the one of the best. like he He plays... Very well. Like, it is difficult to find flaws in his play at times. Even when he's on the back foot. There's definitely ah so some good matches where he was briefly on the back foot, and you see how he digs himself out of it on our on our stream. Again, I recommend checking that out.
00:44:08
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Our very own Stevo came in second with his Fire Ablation. And then we just see Aetherwing, Morsiel, Arasana, Saryu, Ablation. So we we had we had a fair amount of... we had ah We had a mixed bag coming in in our in our and our top eight here.
00:44:30
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We had an Alice just mixed top 16, too. Oh, my goodness. I'm actually part to blame for that Alice missing. Come on, my brother. you can release him You convinced him to play, right? No. So what happened was if he ID'd with his opponent, which they planned on doing, he would have made top 16.
00:44:49
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But there was an issue with getting them on stream and then they just his opponent just decided to go for it, which was absolutely the wrong choice. Both of them should have ID'd. They were 100% locked.
00:45:00
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Don't know why they decided to play it. But on top of that, Berner, who got 15th, and our friend JC, who got 16th, they asked me if they could ID and they both would be locked.
00:45:12
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And I said, yeah should be fine. They got 15th and 16th respectively. If I told them to play it out, that Alice takes the 16th slot. Oh, no. Yes.
00:45:25
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Oh, no my goodness. but That's crazy. I do love seeing Altiers. Kevin, he's ah he's a local to us. He did he did place in the top 16. He topped Virginia. yeah In Virginia, yeah. So I really hope he sticks with Alice because watching him play it, he feels very comfortable playing it. And and it's it's it's always awesome to see someone playing a deck where most people have written it off.
00:45:58
Speaker
Sure. um And ah seeing someone be able to play it as as fast as he does for a deck that's notorious for getting draws is also interesting. And it's it's it's it's also kind of nail biting because he's like, I'm at 18 health. I'm at seven health.
00:46:14
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I'm at 12 health. I'm at two health. I just I love seeing the back and forth. It makes for good gameplay. They heal a lot. Yeah. That list also as ah another testament to what I said before about East Coast players being more willing to try things. I don't think I've seen win Dallas anywhere else on the West Coast.
00:46:33
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No, I don't think so. Yeah. Man. Yeah. at least yeah You know, if there's champions that you guys don't get to play or that you want to play. I know a format where you can play him. Oh, what a segue. Let's talk about that. look at this. This guy's a pro on his segues. It's almost been doing content for like three years now. Yeah.
00:46:56
Speaker
So you you got to go to the Creator Summit. Unfortunately, we we didn't get a chance to go there. I was definitely fairly envious of that. um I was really interested in seeing like the sandbox in person. But let's talk a little bit about Pantheon first. Oh, my gosh. I know Corbin is very excited about Pantheon and probably has some questions and for you about about Pantheon. So since you have the first knowledge, let's go.
00:47:22
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All right, so Terry, you already touched on it. So some bad champions are going to be seeing some play in this format. Oh, yeah. 100%. We know from the starter decks, Kong Ming's looking playable.
00:47:35
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What other champions were you having fun with with in Pantheon that don't see competitive play in in Grand Archives' competitive history? So my favorite champion in Pantheon...
00:47:50
Speaker
is Sylvie. um ah So i love playing Sylvie. you playing Slime Sylvie? Both. Terra, Sylvie, like Beast Sylvie, where you get like you get going with like Meadowbloom Dryads and all these little animals and like...
00:48:07
Speaker
It's pretty cool, but Slime's Slime Tribal is everything I ever wanted it to be. um It's so fun. You can do so much dumb stuff in Sylvie. You guys got to see the Xander Ultimate, which is crazy cool.
00:48:21
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um That was really cool to see. I watched Andy, head of Organized Play, bust that one out, and it was insane to kill all three people at the table. Yeah. I think he also stole a kill from you, right?
00:48:33
Speaker
ah you react Yeah, he did. He didn't even get to play the ultimate because instead of just letting me get my kill and then dying to a sick ultimate kill, he was like, nah, I need all three of them, brother. Greedy, greedy dude. andd he And he almost gave me a chance, but I couldn't kill him. so But it was close.
00:48:50
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um Now, I've been really enjoying her. I have found that I really think that if you get like ah a pod that you're playing regularly or if you start bringing new players in the Pantheon, this is like a big suggestion for you guys. If you're like pillars of your community or like somebody who's going to really push this, I highly, highly recommend that you play a beatdown deck all the time.
00:49:13
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when you're getting your opponent like allies swinging pushing the gameplay forward because everybody wants to play these really cool like late game get all these engines going get all these defenses up and the game and it's really really cool and I think like when it's with you guys and like all your buddies you can totally do it and still get playing pretty fast but the gameplay does inherently take a little bit longer if you guys are familiar with commander and magic right yeah like it's it's a little bit longer and i think it's a lot even it's ah even longer in this game because it's harder to kill people and people don't want to because a lot of the times you have to go all in to kill a person so like if the four of us were playing a a game i go all in to kill steve-o steve-o's like yep i'm dead and then it goes over to david and david just kills me in return because now my shields are down right so it's like it it so everybody it's like that everyone's like this dude The Spider-Man meme. Yeah, literally. Everybody's like that. And so if you have one person, and this is a big reason why I like just kept picking Sylvie, because I was like, you know what? I'm just going to push every single game. I'm going to make everybody do stuff.
00:50:18
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So that's what I did. i didn't get to win very often, but ah i did push the games forward. And I think that it makes it pretty fun um because it forces people to not just gain influence, because you would think that in Pantheon, everybody would have like no influence.
00:50:36
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But it's the absolute opposite. I have never seen as much influence as I see in Pantheon. it's because a lot of the new cards make everybody draw and make everybody... Like, your boons make you draw, so they're all, like, plus ones. And then, you know, like, there's new Regalia that do things. There's even...
00:50:54
Speaker
a new card that makes a tax effect that your opponent has to pay at the beginning of their recollection. And if they don't, then you get to put a counter on it and you can rest it and remove two counters to draw a card in a memory.
00:51:07
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um And once two people have that out, it's over. Like everyone's drawn a million cards at that point. Cause it's just too much to pay. So yeah, Everybody's got a million cards. Like you like Merlin, like Kingslayer Merlin.
00:51:21
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Oh my gosh. The amount of cards that that girl's got in her hand is crazy. um And so seeing all of these different takes, I think that's the coolest thing. Arasana is probably the strongest.
00:51:38
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I would say just like, just just pound for pound because of Polaris. Polaris is... I don't think that they will ban anything, but if they did, it would probably at least be in the conversation um because she is very consistent.
00:51:57
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And I mean, a lot of these decks are consistent, but she is just so consistent in this format. it sounds like she circumvents the singleton. release Yes, she definitely does. mean, there was a game where I was playing Arasana and The cool thing is the deck that I built going to the summit to play before I knew we were going to get any spoilers before I knew they were going to build decks, things like that. I built a really bad Arsana list, but it was going really fun. And it was wind potions.
00:52:27
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So it all these potions, right? And I was super hype on it. I was like, this deck's going to be sweet. I'm never going to win a game, but it's going to be sweet. Then we got to see the actual Pantheon pre-cons and it's kind of potion Arsana.
00:52:40
Speaker
So you got like a bunch of support off of that. And then... On top of that, you get all of these new cards, right? So now Arasana is incredibly powerful. She has other ways to win the game that aren't just Polaris, but Polaris is just that consistent.
00:52:54
Speaker
I got in a situation in it where all three of my opponents knew that I was the issue, right? I was the problem. I i had popped a Polaris for like 14, 15. Like I was in just an incredible spot here. You make so many herbs, so many.
00:53:11
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um It's crazy how many you make. I don't think I actually activated a potion once um I just brood them all the time. That's amazing. And so, because one of the boons that you play in Arasana is the greater boon of Anki, and every time you make a token, you make a copy, or the first time per turn, you make a copy.
00:53:32
Speaker
And so, you get in these situations, you're like, cool, I'll make one on my turn, and then on your turn, I'll i'll play this card and make another one, now I have four, and then you just continue it. It it gets out of control. ah You play allies that make you gather at the beginning of your turn. It's It's a lot, right?
00:53:47
Speaker
But there was a there was definitely a game where all three of my opponents were like, we have to go all in. They like made a pact, right? They're like, we gotta kill Terry before it gets back to him. Like we all have to push. And it got to the time where like I was gonna die and I said, okay, I'm gonna go all in here. And I killed all three of them on that turn.
00:54:03
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ah Just because the raw amount of influence, the amount I could glimpse and like hard cast Cosmic Bolts off the top of my deck, she's crazy. Sorry about that.
00:54:15
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Bless you. Thank you. I like your suggestion, though, about you're introducing new people to the game through Pantheon, being the beatdown, being the threat to force them to make moves, force them to make plays. It's not dissimilar to how we always brought new people into EDH or Commander when we were playing it. It's counter to how I usually play Commander because for those of you who are familiar I'm the stacks guy. Oh no.
00:54:46
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I'm the one who's taxing. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm death in taxes. I make everyone pay the one and then pay the three.
00:54:58
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No, you can't untap anything. Sorry. You're the guy that makes the new players quit. Got it. Yeah. yeah i turn I turn what could be a 45-minute game into a four-hour game. Yeah.
00:55:10
Speaker
Could I have killed everyone? Yes. Am I going to? No. I'll imagine that. Imagine that, but you can only kill one person at a time. So yeah sometimes it takes a little while
Future of Pantheon and TCG Market Dynamics
00:55:23
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to get through it. So the beatdown helps. There's no It is not a mistake that out of the four decks that were built, the Lorraine one is very ally wind beat down variant of the four Pantheon decks because you need one of those.
00:55:37
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So it definitely helps. Arasada is also your absolute counter if you are a beat deck. You blow up the board for 50. It's bad.
00:55:48
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ah But no, going back to what you said, i think that honestly, anything is viable. ah I cannot think of a champion that you couldn't play. I can't think of a your champion that you didn't mention that Corbin's been waiting to hear you mention.
00:56:04
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ah How is Dao Chan level three in this format? Because her on enter sounds absurd. David david would be playing that deck. It is toxic. Corbin is building it. I have it ready to go. blining it is oh too It is just mono, blow everything up, restart the game.
00:56:21
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and priest And it is out of control. ah when If they get to do their thing, so this is the thing. people aren't afraid of you because you're not doing anything.
00:56:34
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You're dirtling. You're dirtling. And so people have to focus you down. And if they don't, you go, cool. Now I'm in the situation where i go, cool, level three, everything gets a counter. Everybody skip your turn or or destroy all your stuff. And then, oh, by the way, I'm going to destroy all your stuff anyway, season's end.
00:56:50
Speaker
Right? just up It's all gone. um And then you just continuously do that and make everything impossible for anybody to do anything. You put flower buds everywhere. And then it's just, it's a very cool deck, but it makes for, i so I watched all the devs play a game. They played a six man pod.
00:57:11
Speaker
Oh no. One night. This was like after we were done shooting. Did they actually go to bed? Because I know how those me mega games of commander go. They, they go a long time. They played it for, had to have been plus hours easily. And it just came down to ah Dow Chan player that just kept going.
00:57:29
Speaker
It was Theo, by the way. Of course it was. It just keeps going. Blow everything up again. so like, it was... a There's a lot of ways, especially in water, for them to just, like, continuously spread.
00:57:43
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Like, put ah counters on everything, wither counters, and just make it so that people either can't take their turn or they have to sack. And you get so much stuff in this game. So... Like Tony guys. Oh my goodness. If you're a Tony Stan, you're eating so good.
00:57:59
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You're eating so good. You know how crazy broken Cordelia is in this format. Oh my God. saying She hits the field and you go, Oh crap.
00:58:10
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it is over ah because just the amount of advantage, the amount of just tokens that Tony makes now with Anki is just out of control. Just absolutely insane. So he's really, really cool. I love to see that. I'm trying to think of some other cool ones that people got to see that maybe they weren't expecting to be really cool. um But I think that, oh, Polcock.
00:58:34
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Oh my gosh. Polcock's so sweet, guys. he's He's so cool. He just 100 to 0 is one person. this the first time we count in another thing or something? Yeah, so like... There's a lot of really cool boons that just like...
00:58:52
Speaker
push damage and like make things happen and he plays all those obviously and he is just going all in on fire ranger units that have really powerful distant effects and putting all of the pressure on one player so you figure out who the problem is and polka goes i got you dog so it So it's kind of like, fuck you in particular. Yeah, pretty much. There is a game.
00:59:17
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um I believe you guys will get to see it pretty soon. I am on another channels game where Sylidar played Polcock and it was crazy. So um it was super, super fun.
00:59:32
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ah Like I said, pretty much everybody has a chance and you can build it a million different ways. There's so many new cards that are just like really powerful staples that just, you know, it so the the whole Pantheon barrier is incredibly powerful, ah especially early on for things like Academy Guide, obviously is crazy powerful.
00:59:53
Speaker
There is this new card that, something paladin i can't think of the first word right now but it is a zero one cost six and has foster and when it fosters it gets plus three plus three and you draw two cards oh yeah i remember that yeah so it's just a basically it's like your best turn one play no matter what deck you're in if you if you happen to open that card it's so hard for anybody to actually deal damage to it so it just draws you two and gives you a giant bead stick which is super cool um
01:00:26
Speaker
But yeah. so like So I'm thinking that like um the Fortuitous Spirits actually might not be terrible in this format. They're insane. Yeah. I'm seeing seven on a Singleton. That seems pretty good. It's very, very good. Pretty, pretty damn good. You probably don't play Paladin in those decks, but you sure but you definitely just go for the consistency instead. Yeah.
01:00:49
Speaker
There's just so so much you can do. it It is interesting to hear you mention the Polcock thing because I haven't watched too much of the Pantheon stuff. But just the fact that the the lineage, I think they're the lineage break champions, right? Or whatever they're called, the Nico, Vanitas, and Polcock. The fact that they still have game in Pantheon, I'm sure that everyone's super stoked to hear that. Well, think about it this way too because i don't know if you guys have seen, if you haven't looked into all the boons,
01:01:17
Speaker
But there are lesser boons for each element. So you can play, like for instance, Polcock if you wanted, you could play a Water Spirit with Polcock one and the Wind lesser and play a full Prismatic Ranger deck if you really wanted to.
01:01:34
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and So like Vanitas decks, people are like cooking with Vanitas in three color Vanitas. So... um There's a lot of cool things that the lineage break champs can do that nobody else can.
01:01:46
Speaker
So that's pretty cool. um But I think overall, people are still going to lean towards going to the advanced elements. They're still going lean more more endgame power. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Because it's crazy the amount of endgame power you have in this game.
01:02:00
Speaker
I planned on playing against Corbin with an in cap in my deck and forcing it into everyone else's deck if they didn't already have it for seasons end. But, you know, a four exist you just get your pullcock player. Go, hey, Corbin's in the spot. Hey, Mikey, come here. You got pullcock, right?
01:02:16
Speaker
yeah well Kill him. I got your target. He's right here. we we We definitely plan to be playing quite a lot of this. We're going to have Pantheon pods available after every locals. And I think one thing that I'm very happy to see is that there is Omnidex support for Pantheon. I think that's fantastic. And actually today, as of this recording, they they announced a whole suite of rewards that are also going to be they're going to be trialing over at Ascent l LA. And
01:02:49
Speaker
Here's hoping that similar to how they started draft at one of the ascents, those will eventually start filtering down to the smaller events and the the local game stores as well, because there's some fantastic prizes you could get with the the CSRs in there.
01:03:03
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I'm very excited for that. I think that's so amazing. I think it's so cool. Like, think about. How I think about it is I know a lot of players who significant others play the game or like at come and hang out at events, but they don't get to play. They just kind of sit there and like support, do whatever, which is great. But this gives those people an opportunity. It also gives people who are maybe a little nervous to play 1v1 ascent.
01:03:28
Speaker
to get a chance to still be a part of this awesome community and go to these crazy events that we talk up all the time. I mean, all of us content creators for grand archives are just huge shills for weaves of the shore.
01:03:39
Speaker
So because it's so good because everything they do is so much fun and is so great. And they try really hard to create these incredible events. Right. So I knew that they do something crazy.
01:03:51
Speaker
i don't know the details because I could not be told, but I did hear, rumor on this Rumor on the street is that around Worlds time and post Worlds, it will be very, very worth it to play Pantheon at these big events.
01:04:09
Speaker
I don't know what that means. They couldn't tell me why they couldn't reveal, but we're hearing that because they said that this was meant to be a more casual thing. So, so you don't get stuff for winning also. I don't know if you saw that. things for anticipat Yeah. but I remember reading that the idea behind Pantheon was a casual format. So it's going to be interesting if they start, if it starts to mold into a more competitive format. Yeah, I i hope it doesn't get competitive because it definitely could. i mean It inevitably will. Look at Commander.
01:04:38
Speaker
there's going to be There's going to be a group of people. There's always going to be the sweaties. AKA main deck that are going to go and fake i'm joking they go and figure Look how sweaty Corbin is. Look at it. sweating right now. He's playing Gow Chan. The best one.
01:04:53
Speaker
People are going to figure out the best ways, the most efficient ways to like play these level three decks and and dominate a game. I'm sure it'll happen. And as we get more and more cards, obviously, I'm sure more broken things will happen.
01:05:06
Speaker
But absolutely. I mean, I know it's going to happen because we have boons that give you the class bonuses so you can play. warrior pullcock if you want or you know whatever which is pretty cool so it's inevitably going to happen eventually right and people are going to figure it out and but i love the so commander is very political this game is like twice as political which is which is insane because i didn't think that was possible and i'm somebody who plays group hug
01:05:42
Speaker
Oh, yeah, okay. So I play a very political night. Corbin and Steve don't play Commander. So group hug is basically, you're sitting there going like, well, I could help you. Well, I could help you.
01:05:53
Speaker
Let me help all of you. Yeah. I don't win very often, but I make the game go faster and I make everybody able to do whatever they want. And I can pull some pretty big deals as a political person in there. So it's just Monopoly.
01:06:07
Speaker
Kind of. you're Literally. It's basically Monopoly. And I think that this game is even more so because... You have to have these deals. You have to have these alliances because if you don't, everybody stands there Spider-Man.
01:06:21
Speaker
So you get in these situations where you go, hey, Corbin, Steve's getting way too strong, man. I'm going to go all in on them but you have to promise me you'll give me at least one more turn after that. And then Corbin goes, yeah, dude, I got you. And then I kill Steve and Corbin goes, all right, kill you, Terry. And I just lose because he pulled out sword or knife in my back.
01:06:39
Speaker
Pull it out. It's over. but then Then you take gratifact or grat satisfaction in the fact that he didn't kill me and I kill him. And you're like, gotcha. You deserve that one. See, I'm telling you guys, but this is the politics. It it is it is super fun. anything Anything's viable. it's It's a very casual format. It's super. You have to look at it that way, too.
01:07:01
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um At least currently, we haven't seen everything in RDO, and a lot of cards in RDO were built with the idea of this in mind. So I think we will see more.
01:07:12
Speaker
if If I'm not mistaken, I'm mistaken. There are cards that have that little P symbol or the Pantheon. That means they only get to be played in Pantheon, correct? Correct. In in RDO, we there is there a a slot in the card pack dedicated to a Pantheon card? That is correct. token It's the token slot, i believe, right?
01:07:31
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that would make sense. Okay. so you can get like the boons and stuff like that. Yeah. yeah And there's different rarities. There's like UR boons and stuff. So talking a little bit about like what they have planned as far as rewards are concerned, it says, while not debuting at Ascent Los Angeles, there's going to be a Pantheon Battle Pass, and it will arrive at future eligible Ascents. The pass rewards players for the time they spend playing Pantheon, offering Ascent store tickets, Pantheon packs, and promotional cards at completion. The promotional card and Pantheon packs rotate once a year.
01:08:08
Speaker
the battle pass will cost two side event tickets. So if you're at an ascent, you just play Pantheon the whole time if you want. That's actually pretty cool. So little spoiler for you guys is I am going to LA, but I am not competing in the main event. I am actually playing Pantheon the whole time I am there um and helping those pods kind of do their thing. am...
01:08:34
Speaker
m not feeling that great about competitive right now because I've been so busy getting ready to open the store. So you're not confident, right? now Oh, dude. I know if I go and play competitive, I'm scrubbing out. There's no way I'm not. So up down and chill yeah yeah so I'm like, yo, I'll go.
01:08:51
Speaker
I'm going to shoot a bunch of content. And our channel team trading post has been, you'll see it in the next few weeks, but we are definitely, slowly moving into a Pantheon-focused channel.
01:09:04
Speaker
And we're going to be doing a lot more casual stuff, a lot more deck creation, a lot more like taking the pre-cons once we get all of our RDO stuff and talking about budget upgrades and big upgrades. And also, because we have four guys, we can do Pantheon content.
01:09:19
Speaker
And Shreder, one of the guys I'm partnered with, is building us an incredible studio for recording. It's taking up like... A big chunk of the store, but we're we're going to be a content studio as well. So we are planning on hosting, obviously, a lot of events and doing live streams and live streaming all our locals. But we're putting together like my dream studio.
01:09:41
Speaker
Everything I could have ever wanted in a studio. Streeter's like, let's do it, man. Let's make the best we can. And let's create this incredible experience for everybody who gets to do it. So I get to create this awesome spot to play for, man, which I'm pretty excited about.
01:09:56
Speaker
ah While he's saying this, the only thing going through my head is us being kind of forced to to use my basement at a certain point. Yeah. I'm looking at David like, when do we get a studio?
01:10:09
Speaker
David, he's got it, man. Yeah, David. I'm not made of money. I'm sorry to popular belief. David is actually made of money. No, I am not. you know, it's all cash underneath that cardigan, man.
01:10:24
Speaker
He's an Illuminati. I don't think you understand how deep this goes, Terry. Tyler has started a very terrible rumor. This is not true whatsoever. We're going to have to disappear, Tyler. um Anyway. The pictures of him and his business meetings. I'm telling you,
01:10:45
Speaker
they're This year's is at Vegas.
01:10:49
Speaker
You're Worlds is at Vegas. they get Your Nats is at Vegas. Come on. um So, you know, just a little bit more about Pantheon here. And this is going to change a lot of the singles market, I think, because there's a lot of there's a lot of collector cards, especially CSRs, that I think a lot of people wouldn't necessarily consider something that they would stick in their deck because they need four of them. And that is expensive if it's a main deck CSR. But now if you only need one,
01:11:23
Speaker
The value of some of those promos is going up high. Corbin, you've been... you've been i was definitely the target audience for this. I was about to say, you seem like the target audience. how many How many main deck CSRs have you popped in there now?
01:11:37
Speaker
I think three. who And then Dao Chan's ultimate when that comes out. So it'll be at least four. That's super exciting. I kind of expect to see some some shift in the in the singles market as far as like- I got to sell this. I got to sell this vapor field bear CPR, man.
01:11:56
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. they I have one of those too. They're sweet. ah Yeah. Jumping on this, not even just the foils market, at least from the single side, but even newer players trying to get into the game. This is arguably a much cheaper alternative. Oh, yeah. I remember since the Shout a website got that...
01:12:18
Speaker
data breach or whatever whatever was gonna happen uh pickle implemented the tcg low player low price for decks and my cl deck i was like oh it's like 700 freaking dollars for this deck pantheon decks have got to be way lower than that way lower I would imagine. Oh, yeah. I mean, you don't have to have play sets of these super, super expensive cards, right? Yeah, you only need one.
01:12:41
Speaker
You don't need four. I mean, dungeon guides are a lot cheaper now, but you only need one. You only need one of all these cards. and but Even just like the non-foil, it's going to be a massive boon to getting newer players in and getting rid of that barrier to entry that seems to be creeping up higher and higher. Yeah.
01:12:56
Speaker
I don't consider myself like a bling it out type of player like like I like a material deck card that might be a CSR or something like that that I'll keep around for a while. But when it comes to like my my commander decks, I always search for like either the weirdest or the best looking art for that one particular card. And I'm oh yeah i'm going for it. I don't need I don't need four of them at $50 a piece, but all right, I'll splurge on the $50 really awesome.
01:13:25
Speaker
cool looking card because it's going in a one-off it does feel a lot easier to do which is a little dangerous i'm the same way with my commander decks i'm like oh dude it's it's so much cheaper to foil out this deck it's so much easier to bling it yeah and then you price up exactly how much you've spent on that blinged out commander deck and you're like it's only like 70 of the cost to do a full competitive meta deck
01:13:51
Speaker
wild but yeah super cheaper barrier to entry couldn't agree more i think that i i'm working on purchasing a pantheon play set so the one ofs right of of like everything up until hvn uh because i actually don't own that many cards guys if you didn't know what do you mean pantheon play set so a one of every single card in the game since it's one ofs in this format right so if you get a one of every variant of it too No, I don't need the variance. I just the one. So I was going to say, does that mean every CSR? no, no, no, no. I'm interested in base rarity non-foil playset. Oh, okay. So one of each card from DOA, FTC, on and on and on.
01:14:35
Speaker
And I think without the big Divine Relics, it's like if you go by low, it's really not bad. if you like it's it's i think you could get How many is it?
01:14:46
Speaker
Oh my goodness. It's gotta be. i I honestly, it's definitely over a thousand, but I don't know what the number is actually. I wish I did. um I'm ah currently in the early stages of figuring this out. So, oh, wait.
01:15:00
Speaker
So this is what you need to do when you get this. You get this binder here. Okay. See this binder? Yeah. This holds, this holds, I think like 1100 cards.
01:15:13
Speaker
In this binder, this is my son's Pokedex binder. That's sick. And he's he's collecting one of every Pokemon in Pokedex order. But you could make yourself a Pantheon by ordering this Mega Binder. Yes, I love that.
01:15:30
Speaker
i actually am... I think you might call it the Giga Binder. I'm 100%. I'm 100% going to do that. I'll put the link down in the description for this. This is massive. Dude, this is just how much he loves it No, but this is just impressive when you... Sponsor this channel if you hear this. Yeah, yeah, If you're watching this right now. Yeah, please. Please sponsor us. you bust out this. It's kind of like bringing out, like, the tome of knowledge.
01:15:55
Speaker
I love that. but yeah This thing is huge.
01:16:00
Speaker
Oh, goodness. So i would highly i would I would highly recommend doing that. You'll fit them all. One in one binder. One binder to rule them all.
01:16:10
Speaker
Well, I know we're all looking forward to Pantheon. yeah Please tell us down below who you plan on playing in Pantheon. What kind of crazy deck do you want to create in Pantheon?
01:16:22
Speaker
What Pantheon decks do you guys want to play? What's your deck of choice? We already know Corbin's, but he can say it and remind it again. Yeah. And we're definitely going to be having a fair amount of Pantheon content on this. I think everyone's so jazzed. They're going to be making Pantheon content. yeah There's gonna be no end of Pantheon content. Yes.
01:16:41
Speaker
There's going to be a lot coming to you. I think it's great. That question was directed at you guys. What, what, what, Oh, it's Sylvie for me for sure. so So, especially now that we're seeing like raccoons and more slimes guys, it's over.
01:16:56
Speaker
um i'm goingnna I'm going to surprise maybe maybe Terry, but I'm torn between Tony and CL. i actually think CL is still going to be ridiculously good. CL is going to be insane, man.
01:17:08
Speaker
I'm going to play Sheen Merlin. No way. need to stop this before it's too late. I'm going to play Sheen Merlin. I'm just going to be doing nothing the whole time, but I'm going to have a lot of Sheen counters. And you're going to play this labyrinth and just sit there. Labyrinth's going insane, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Sheen Merlin all the way.
01:17:29
Speaker
You know what is actually like, so not that this ah affects Labyrinth or anything, but it just made me think of it because all these decks play so much utility. Like so many random one-offs that you maybe wouldn't think.
01:17:41
Speaker
Like Raze of the Land is an absolute staple in in this format. It's just so good, right? And there's so many cards like that that you wouldn't think about, but you you play Fantasia Hate. You play all of this because depending on what these decks are doing, you might end up needing it, right?
01:17:56
Speaker
ah I'll speak from experience on the East Coast here. Raise the Land was competitively viable and played by you know a player on our side and to great success. So Raise the Land has never you know receded from competitive viability, in my opinion. In fact, in fact he was officially asked to be deck-checked at an event to make sure that he actually had it in his deck because crazy no one had ever played it and it like it ruined the the the person he was playing the playing against uh strategy because he thought his domains were um untouchable main deck raised land blow it up
01:18:39
Speaker
The best part was one of the players that he played against was Poro. I will never forget it. No! yeah That was amazing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He did that he did do that to Poro. That's crazy.
01:18:50
Speaker
Yeah, twice. Poro's like, what the... That poor guy, man. He just never gets to play as Tony, man. He just never gets to. I am also considering playing Kong Ming as well.
01:19:01
Speaker
ah Kong Ming is insane how many cards you draw. i think she's I think you draw more cards with her than anybody else, but she has a hard time ending the game. Planar Abyss has got to be pretty good and in that, right? Art's pretty cool.
01:19:15
Speaker
a season 10 that does damage. Yeah.
Beyond Grand Archive: Other TCGs and Market Trends
01:19:20
Speaker
All right, well, we are we are we're getting close to the end here, but I wanted to try out ah like a new topic that we haven't crossed before. Now, we we all love Grand Archive, but believe it or not, there are other TCGs that are played around the world.
01:19:37
Speaker
What? and i wanted to i Yeah, I know, right? I wanted to touch base on some other TCG news. um You all watch the Winter Olympics, right? Oh, yeah yeah. Clips of it, yeah. I watched a dude going, walking up or running up a mountain and skis going faster than, like, I could run. I thought, man, um i got to work out. I'll tell you what. I think the best thing about the Olympics is everybody at home watching, like, these crazy gymnasts and figure skaters, like, and they accidentally slip up and they're sitting there with, like, eating their popcorn and scooping their ice cream. They're, like, pathetic.
01:20:10
Speaker
Pathetic. You don't deserve anything. Yeah. Yeah. I guess you're not getting a medal now. You only spun three times in the air. Nonsense. Get good. um ah The gold medal winning figure skater, Amber Glenn, apparently loves a Magic the Gathering so much that she was opening them while streaming during the closing ceremony.
01:20:39
Speaker
So she was yeah cracking packs during the closing ceremony. That's some dedication. She's a real gamer. She desperately wants to get sponsored by Wizards of the Coast. I don't think it would be that hard for her.
01:20:54
Speaker
just really wanted it. I'm pretty sure they sent her some care gifts, like some care packages of magic at that point. But I always think that's that's that's always awesome when you see like when you see people who are in the spotlight like that, who say, oh, they like what I like. I love that.
01:21:14
Speaker
It makes you feel a little like, oh, cool. Cracking packs isn't so nerdy. Everybody's a nerd. but Everyone's a nerd. This is great. you You say it's nerdy until you crack your first pack and you get that smell of new cards. Oh, dude. You're gone. Love huffing that. Take me to Vegas, man.
01:21:34
Speaker
ah it's it's it's It's a fantastic feeling. um So we all know that One Piece is crazy hot right now. Pokemon has been cooling a little bit and One Piece super hot. The latest set that they put out, I saw people trying to hock that for over $600 a box, which is absolutely insane. Even today, like on Tuesday, I was over over at a local game store. One pack of the latest set, Heroin's Edition, costing $500. $15. One pack.
01:22:07
Speaker
what Eight cards. one what What'd you say? How many sets deep is one piece? Oh, man, a lot. Oh, was a lot? This isn't even a main set. This is like an extra set.
01:22:19
Speaker
Yeah, i think they I think they're like somewhere between 15 and 20 sets in right now. Oh, I thought they started in like 2024, didn't they? They started in
01:22:31
Speaker
And they're already on that many sets. they They're small sets. like they yeah It's Bandai. So they pump out these tiny sets and they're just like one after another. So apparently the latest set, Heroin's Edition, got robbed in transit, which is ah why many of these, which why, again, it's difficult to find the product right now. Yeah.
01:22:53
Speaker
I believe Bandai has said that they're going to be sending more of it out, but that's not the only time that this stuff has been robbed. Locally here on the East Coast, Rutgers, which is a college nearby, had a one-piece promotional day where you could get a promotional card by attending one of their one of their games, one of their sporting events. And apparently those promos were stolen.
01:23:15
Speaker
like thousands and thousands of dollars worth of ah Luffy um promo cards got stolen right from Rutgers. And like the police are involved because this is like,
01:23:26
Speaker
crazy Because it's so valuable, like this is not considered like minor theft. This is like a major theft. Yeah. um And we've seen a rise in a string of game store thefts around here as well. um There was, ah I believe it was, was it Stevenson? Corbin, correct me. I believe Stevenson got robbed. And I believe it was like sealed Pokemon and One Piece product that that they ran off with.
01:23:51
Speaker
I believe it, man. One piece right now is going to the moon. ah They got the collector crowd finally decided to get into one piece. which is crazy. And it's so it's blowing up to the moon.
01:24:03
Speaker
Everything is worth crazy. I had a one of my friends here um in Michigan, his shop, they opened singles and they hit the manga Luffy that was crazy expensive. They got it graded. It was a 10, like a pristine 10. And he flew somewhere to sell it to somebody for tens of thousands of dollars. And it's like, it's crazy. hand delivered it.
01:24:26
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't even risk that with shipping. Are you kidding? No, yeah. At that point, you're you're paying for the the plane ticket, and you're going and handing it off. cause Yeah. but really vaational But they get in it, yeah. I mean, obviously, Pokemon's insane, and it's always going to be.
01:24:39
Speaker
It's not going anywhere unless the card market completely crashes. But um One Piece is definitely getting up there. Obviously, it's a huge IP. It's the only IP that's, like, close to rivaling Pokemon, and nothing rivals Pokemon. It's, like,
01:24:53
Speaker
no one You can't rival Pokemon. But One Piece is a huge game, for sure. I don't remember what month it was, but I think at one point, One Piece actually outsold Yu-Gi-Oh! for a month, which was insane. That wasn't that long ago. because yeah Nothing has cracked like those those sacred...
01:25:11
Speaker
the the sacred three at the top of Magic, Pokemon, and Yu-Gi-Oh forever. And the fact that One Piece was able to crack that is absolutely insane. Yu-Gi-Oh has been on the downtrend for the past like four years, think. Yeah. Yu-Gi-Oh, they're actively trying to kill their game.
01:25:26
Speaker
Yeah. It's actually it a shame from from the player perspective because obviously you want your game to thrive. But yeah I would not be surprised within within the next five years it's like the big two or you have a new third in the case of One Piece.
01:25:39
Speaker
Yeah, I think we're definitely going to see some big games that are right there on the cusp right now, but can never push past those like Yu-Gi-Oh! Like One Piece, right? um I think you hit that nail on the head. You're going to see some games. Magic's doing their best to drive a nail into their coffin as well. To play Fortnite? You can't kill Magic, bro.
01:25:57
Speaker
That's not yet. I mean, with all the the lawsuits happening now because they're lying to their to their shareholders and stuff about the amount of cards they produce. what They might they might not get killed um by the consumer, but they might get sued to oblivion.
01:26:13
Speaker
I got a game for you. If you're a TCG fanatic, I've got the game. It's a brett it's a newer game. It's called Shard Bugs. Have you heard of it? I have not heard of this one. Okay, so you might really enjoy this because their website and their aesthetic is like 90s neon. Do you remember the drink Surge?
01:26:32
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It reminds me of that. If you look up, if you go to shardbugstcg.com, I believe that's what they're called. And I'm not sponsored, by the way. No sponsorship here. Someone please sponsor us or Terry. Someone, please. Shardbugs is a really, really cool game that ah one of the guys that I'm partnered with at the shop and we're opening the shop together is kind of getting bit by the bug, for lack of better words.
01:26:58
Speaker
Terry. Terry. Wow.
01:27:02
Speaker
uh his name yeah dad jokes to fathers okay that his name's shrie i've been calling the game shrie bugs because he's like so into it uh but it's a pretty cool game it's worth checking out if you're into like the aesthetic is very interesting yeah if you're into like new small card games you know you're not trying this isn't one piece this isn't you know grand archive even but it's a cool game that you could definitely play and have some fun with your friends if you were interested the The art style reminds me of like old 90s comic books. Yes, 100%. And they're all bugs, which is crazy.
01:27:36
Speaker
Very, very funny. I'll tell you what. have to check that Shree is very excited for your guys' podcast with me on it. He's like super stoked to listen to this one. Okay. He's going to lose his mind if I bring up Shard bugs on it. He's going to to make it to the end, but going to say, hey, you got to watch the whole thing. And I will know if he does. Careful bug study. Yeah. Because if he does it, I will know.
01:28:00
Speaker
You will know. sort to end us off, Bandai has announced a new rule in Japan for their card tournaments in that you cannot aggressively shuffle your hand anymore.
01:28:16
Speaker
So if you are card flicking, m you... Where's my deck? Where's my deck to just inherently do it? You mean this isn't annoying?
01:28:27
Speaker
this is an annoying you are aggressively card flicking, you can get a judge warning and a disqualification. And I, for one, am all for it.
01:28:40
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Nothing annoys me more than an aggressive card flick. that's a david's boomer moment yeah this is he's showing it he's showing your age right now david you showed it man this dirt i have a confession i have a confession yes when we released the first episode for the recollection series because corbin and i this is our first gameplay video uh one of the first things that i started hearing was my card shuffling yeah and i'm not gonna lie that was some good asmr for my ears
01:29:14
Speaker
I will tell you this. is If you guys get into more gameplay and you start doing more and more videos, you guys are going all the hate comments. People hate, hate handshuffling. I don't know what it is, man. Barely Bandai does too. Bandai is one of those people.
01:29:29
Speaker
If you are if you're familiar with um Magic Pro Brian Kibler. Oh, yeah. he is He is a notorious hand shuffler and he does a lot of commander content. And yeah, his now wife will very frequently grab his hand and just stop him from doing it because he's sitting there just going. He gets so aggressive and he does the over the top one like this. That's wild. That's on him. I'm sorry. Wait, is this it?
01:30:00
Speaker
It's so crazy. Yeah, but like it is it is it is one of those, it is the ultimate TCG player stimming. You you just do not do it apparently. You have to, man. Like it took me years of making content to finally get to the point now where I don't do it when I play because I am trained now that when my turn is over,
01:30:24
Speaker
I take my hand, I spread it out in front of me so you know how many cards I have, and I pass it over. Because I was going say, you guys are going start doing that pretty soon if you're doing more gameplay content. You're going to get it. i already do that, actually, in our events that we play in. Like, 90% of the time during my opponent's turn, I'm not even playing with my hand. yeah most Most of the time, i do that card shuffling only on my turn because it's when I'm actively thinking. thinking able to yeah yeah yeah i definitely have that problem, too.
01:30:51
Speaker
i On my opponent's turn, i do the like I fan out my cards in front of me, and then I kind restack them and fan them out again, restack and fan them out again while my opponent is going. So there's no noise associated with it, but I'm doing something. I'm fidgeting.
01:31:06
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That's the poker like the poker bro in you, yeah stacking those chips and stuff. Wait till Bandai bans that. Or Yu-Gi-Oh! player. The rule is just going to be your hand stays in your hand, and you do nothing with it.
01:31:17
Speaker
Sometimes I will aggressively recheck and check and check my memory over and over again as if like that will change. this sort's gonna throw into another I'm a big cloth mat enjoyer. I play i have like tons of cloth mats. I play with cloth mat. And so i definitely feel that because I pick up mine all the time and I just fan it out across my play mat because it's just the slide, the glide is like, oh, it's satisfying. Oh, it's so satisfying.
01:31:46
Speaker
Steve, if your card shuffling you felt was the ASMR, for our next for our next two hour video, we just have you shuffling.
01:31:59
Speaker
Two hours of Steve-O hand shuffling by ah by a fire. Listen, one, I'll have a TV this time because that was like when I right moved into my house. There was literally nothing in the living room. for for For context, for people on that video, I had moved into that house on Christmas Day and recorded that like December 27th.
01:32:20
Speaker
There was nothing in the living room. On a dare. Yeah. Oh, dare yeah yeah. And and ah I will say, i lined everything up perfectly for you to edit, and it really bugs me whenever I watch that video just out of randomness. And I see the edit between when I'm done and the pile's a little smaller, and then you decide to reset the loop. And I'm like, David, I so set it up that it starts with erupting, didn't it ends with erupting. You just clean transition. it It didn't work as well as you thought it did. BS. I watched the tapes. I watched the tapes.
01:32:57
Speaker
You want to do some editing? You're free to do some editing. David, you're the best. I love you. You're amazing. level another question It's amazing. It's fantastic. I think that's a great way to close out this episode. Thank you all for joining us today on this episode of of Careful Study.
Conclusion: Content Promotion and Audience Interaction
01:33:14
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Terry, where can we find you and all your wonderful content ah outside of literally everyone else's channel?
01:33:20
Speaker
Yeah, right. I don't actually have my own. I'm just in everyone else's. ah No, but thank you guys so much for having me on careful study. Like I had so much fun here. um You guys are great. I love watching your guys's podcast. So i was super stoked to get to be on it. You can find watch. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm one of the, so my channel where you can find me currently is team and trading post.
01:33:41
Speaker
You can find us. and any social media platform you can have. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. But yeah, that's where you can find me. We do right now the main, so I'm going to have multiple channels here. It's a little more spoilers for you guys, but this channel, particularly right now, is focused fully on GA and we are moving towards Pantheon content. So if you like it, you'd like the stuff we're talking about today.
01:34:03
Speaker
Come check me out.
01:34:06
Speaker
There you go. Exclusive on careful study. Terry's going to have many YouTube channels. Many. I can't count them all. Follow all of Terry. You know how YouTube has those little like hashtag symbols with the ah keywords or whatever. You're just going to put Terry on every single video from now on.
01:34:25
Speaker
Yeah. honor own yeah And for those of you watching, please tell us, where did you first see Terry?
01:34:34
Speaker
Some guy's going to see like a Walmart 2008. want to know. I want to know, man. Where did you first see Terry? And what hat was he wearing? Did he have hair? Nobody knows, man. It's the mystery.
01:34:47
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Well, I want to thank you all again. And we will see you all next time.
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