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Speaker: All right, everybody, welcome back in. We are here today with Fireside Shadow. How are you doing today? I'm doing good. Good, good. Yeah, me too. It is like the first.
Speaker: cold day i think we've had in minnesota in a long time so i've just been like bundled in my apartment today like trying to stay warm i feel like it's so rainy and gross i don't know if it's been the same for you mm -hmm uh luckily i work from home so i got to just stay inside
Speaker: but my roommate asked me to get a package at the door and that was a miserable like four seconds gross i had to take my dog out like a i don't know 25 minutes ago and i it was just i had an umbrella thankfully if not i would have been really miserable but yeah it's gross out But I haven't had to use my AC unit for the first time all since like
Speaker: summer are started so i'm Really stoked about that. But anyway, welcome onto the show. I'm so glad to have you. Yeah, do you want to introduce yourself to the listeners with your name, pronouns, where you're based at? Well, I know where you're based out of, but they probably don't. so Where you're based out of, all that good stuff.
Speaker: All that fun stuff. Yes. So Fireside Shadow is the music project name. My name is Reba. She, her. I'm i'm boring.
Speaker: with my pronouns. i did post a video today saying that i identify as a guitar solo and you know what it's accurate that's honestly okay i think i would too to be honest i there's nothing that hits my soul better than like
Speaker: a guitar solo if i'm being so real like i i i don't know A shredding guitar. It's just, it's the mood. It's a vibe. So I get it. But yeah, you're from Minneapolis here like I am. So I'm so excited to have another Minnesota artist here with me. It's always the best. And we've already gotten to work together in person a little bit with some of the shows I put together. So really excited to have you here.
Speaker: I am so excited to be here. Yes, yes. Yeah, let's get started. How long have you been kind of making music, whether with Fireside Shadow or just in general?
Speaker: So in general There. I don't believe there is any point in time where I didn't know I was a musician. but I did have a little bit of a cheat, though, because both of my parents were musicians. So, like, you know, I started songwriting really, really young.
Speaker: like As soon as I could you know reach the keys on a piano. But... uh Yeah, I mean, it didn't really come to fruition until I was you know a lot older i would just kind of do that myself but yeah when i was like 15 -ish i started a band That didn't go anywhere because, well. Okay, there are some impressive.
Speaker: 15 year olds around i think you know who i'm thinking of i know exactly who you're thinking of yes but but that was uh not the case with uh my 15 year old band uh they were all like just there to hang out and not do anything so I get that if I would have tried to make a band at that age I don't think it would have stuck either like I barely know any people that I was friends with back then anyway anymore so I'm like
Speaker: just that alone it would have crumbled so oh yeah i guess that's a tough age like i'm i'm really impressed with a lot of the younger musicians that are out there because i actually just went to a show so sorry add but i went to a local show and it was all teenagers in local bands i'm terrible i don't remember their names but it was really cool like The music community was so into it. and yeah That's so cool.
Speaker: Fucking mosh pit. Oh my gosh. like yeah Like they're killing it. That's amazing. i wish i had that kind of drive that young you know i am gonna name drop because i've had her on my show but fiona hayes is the one i think we were both thinking of and she she was born to be a star like she's just She's so young. I think she just turned 16, actually. So she' is she's got...
Speaker: so much life to live and she's going to just keep being a rock star. So I'm so proud of her. But so much potential with her like. So much, but yeah. She's exciting. I think she's gonna do it. yeah me too but but as far as you so like were your parents like what kind of musicians were they like did they do like were they in bands or did this kind of play instruments or like how how did that look So they met in a band. Oh, cool. Yeah. uh and my mom
Speaker: well i mean they all or yeah they both did a little of everything But my mom mostly did keys and vocals and then my dad was primarily a drummer and then a little later in life kind of a producer But yeah, I was always around it.
Speaker: And... there were always instruments around and i liked them and yeah that's awesome was there ever like an album or like an artist your parents would play a lot growing up that you feel is really like locked into your soul and has like made you kind of who you are today.
Speaker: I would have to say Fleetwood Mac. as a as a band of course rumors like that album like that's the main one right but like i i listened to beyond that album like a lot of fleetwood mac growing up and i still I love.
Speaker: i love them i even have a cover out of uh smile at you yes that's amazing no they are such a great band so i i totally see it that's great but okay so for your own Music. How would you describe your personal brand to someone who's never heard of Fireside Shadow before?
Speaker: Oh, my God. That is a challenge every time I have to type something for this project, because the real answer is whatever the fuck I feel like. But, you know, that's not a genre. That's true.
Speaker: Yeah, it it tends to be kind of a mix of like... industrial dark wave. kind of feel, alt -rock.
Speaker: my My background is very much in alt -rock, so I think that comes through a lot, even though I'm on with this project. but Yeah, no, I get it a hundred percent. I i think it's it's very like moody and you definitely can hear like influences from like, from older bands, I think like, like nineties.
Speaker: and oh yeah need these bands for sure so i really enjoy that you get like the experience of new music from like an older age you know i love that kind of stuff so much so yeah it's it's very good i like what you do a lot Thank you. That truly means a lot.
Speaker: Yeah, well, it's true. And and I'm excited too. And it's it's a pleasure to work with you always. so awesome you thank you okay so i'm assuming so fireside shadow how long has that project been Like, when did you start doing this project?
Speaker: So actually some of the songs on the album predate fireside shadow by quite a bit. Oh, okay. Okay It was officially a project, and I want to say like 2023.
Speaker: like when i was like okay no this is this. but I had a project I was working on before that with somebody else. And then that I won't go too much into detail about that. but essentially some of the songs that i was writing for that project uh we weren't working on so I kind of branched off because I was like I i really want to do this
Speaker: yeah and as you should you know like i i obviously don't know the story behind that but it's like if if you are still wanting to do like the music thing and maybe they weren't like you deserve to to have that space to and to to keep those songs you know and make something of them so i'm glad that you did Yeah, I'm glad too. It was fun. was fun getting them to come to life yeah that's awesome i'm curious too where did the name fireside shadow come from?
Speaker: do Like. where Yeah. What were the like thought process? So the thought process was everything's fucking taken. But, but. but that Amazing. Best answer. I'm glad that I still have like at least an okay story. I was trying to come up with something that like wasn't just like, you know.
Speaker: like a basic name. I don't know. And I really liked that. you know, telling stories by the fire. Yeah. So that's the logo too.
Speaker: is this and then fireside shadows that makes so much sense okay i get it now that's awesome that's awesome no i i've always thought your name was super cool like it just sounds super cozy you know like you're just like you're sitting by the campfire and you're cozy and then there's shadows all around like it's just a very specific type of vibe and i i really i like the like vision that comes to mind when i think of it so
Speaker: yeah i think it's a creative name Thank you. awesome yeah i'm assuming you're still like an independent band right you don't have any label of any kind do you I do not. Do you ever think that you would want a label or any dream labels you'd like to maybe be a part of one day?
Speaker: no dream labels because i don't know what's behind the scenes that's the truth girl i get it yeah it's uh my dream label would be i read the contract and it's great but yeah and it works for you and you get to keep all the creative rights and do everything on your own time all that kind of jazz i get it yeah so well cool yeah i would be open to a label if uh I don't know that I'm...
Speaker: really what a label would be looking for to be a totally transparent because Why do you say that? I'm just curious The stuff I do isn't really...
Speaker: I don't know, as accessible as like some of the other people that I think I hear. Hmm. or the other bands. Like... I don't know. Interesting.
Speaker: Yeah. real type things i don't hear being i mean there can always be a shift but i don't think it's really all that popular anymore You know? there might be a bit someday but yeah i could see that but sometimes i feel like
Speaker: Like, maybe maybe... a label would come and find you and be like oh this is super unique and i really like this and you and there might i'm sure there's a fit for you somewhere but again like being independent is can be so rewarding these days so i i think it's cool just to take it slow and see where things go for sure Yeah, that's what I'm... kind of doing, just kind of seeing what happens. and putting my stuff out there. and Yeah.
Speaker: You're doing a great job though. Everything sounds great. i appreciate that a lot yeah of course okay let's talk a little bit about some of your inspirations a little bit so when you're writing music when you're creating who are some of the artists that you really look up to and try to take from when you're writing.
Speaker: Nine Inch Nails is... kind of first and foremost for inspiration. I don't know. I like the vibe. Yeah, yeah Trent.
Speaker: does a really good job. like What I really like about Nine Inch Nails music is like... how do i explain this there's always so much going on if you listen to it like if you're really listening to all the subtle little things it's like you could listen to the same song 10 times and follow a different rhythm pattern through the whole thing That's so cool. I really love songs like that.
Speaker: Yeah, and I really I love doing that too. and I don't know. That's probably where it. started from with the idea. that's cool okay so nine inch nails is like the main inspiration that's awesome that's cool just out of like curiosity though what are some of the other like bands that you like to listen to just in general or that have been on your radar lately?
Speaker: Pretty reckless. It was a big one. mom I grew up listening to Evanescence, Flyleaf, all the rock girlies. yeah Let's see.
Speaker: Who's on my wall? I've been really into Polythia. oh i don't think i know who that is uh they're instrumental funnily enough oh that's cool okay really interesting though like they're actually pretty popular even though they're an instrumental band like they I discovered them because I saw but but a System of a Down and we're opening for a System of a Down.
Speaker: And so I you know researched them like a year before. we went or whatever. Mm -hmm. that's so cool they're so good so good yeah i can only imagine how that must have been like hearing it live because like i i everyone i think always thinks that it needs to be a vocalist but like the amount of emotion you can just evoke just through instrumental is so powerful to me that's so cool oh yeah it's equally. equally as important.
Speaker: If not more important than vocals. 100%. I mean, it's like the the vocals are there to like... tell the story sometimes or like help you understand the story, but sometimes if if you have a good enough writer the instrumental tells the story itself and i think that that is so cool
Speaker: so yeah i i grew up in like marching band and concert band and all those things jazz band and so i like i don't know i i appreciate a good storytelling without the vocals so i think that's very cool i'm gonna have to check that band out Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, they're really, really good. They're crazy good. oh my god yeah i'm gonna have to check them out i'm gonna write that down so that's awesome cool so Kind of on the same note here, what?
Speaker: for you are some artists that you would love to collaborate with in the future, if you could manifest that.
Speaker: Wow, that's going to be very much the same answer I just gave. Okay. All the ones I just said. plus Honestly? Like if I could do.
Speaker: a collab with like Pretty much most of the people that I've seen like in the Minneapolis music scene, I so would. there's a lot of talent around here oh yeah that would be so fun and there's such variety too you know Yeah. Who are some of your favorites to see here in the Minneapolis scene?
Speaker: Just to pick a few. Oh my gosh. Well. Halfway Down is really fun. I got to play a show with them. yeah I haven't actually seen Fiona Hayes yet. Oh, really? She's really good. i I believe it. Like, I listen to her stuff. She's really good. Oh my gosh.
Speaker: uh cheap bouquet is really good yeah Well, I'm really good friends with like I don't know if it's weird to say I'm friends with the band, but Bullets and Butterflies. Yes. i okay so i just discovered them through your page actually because i you share a band member don't you
Speaker: is Is that it or no? Yes. Okay, yeah. Chris plays with plays with my project live, but his baby is Bullets and Butterflies. Okay, okay gotcha. Because i I recognized him from your band. And so then I was like, he has another band. And then I was like, this band is so good. And so I just er these came across them. And I was like, how have they i how have they flown under my radar? I was like, this is impossible. so yeah I'm excited to dive more into them they seem like a very cool band they're very good
Speaker: Yeah. yeah awesome no i could see you definitely collaborating with all of them and it would be so cool to do like a minnesota like collaboration album or something or like ep you know That would be sick.
Speaker: That would be so so, I'd be so down. You heard it here, folks. We're going to make it happen. A Minneapolis rock scene collaboration album. I think that would be the sickest thing ever. I think it needs to happen. Oh, my God. like I would die. That's so cool. I'm sure people would love to do it, too. So let's get this thing moving. That's sick. Okay, so. similarly yeah i'm just so sorry if the answers are still the same but if you could build your own
Speaker: tour lineup with you and like three or four other bands can be anyone anytime any genre Who would it be?
Speaker: As unrealistic as you want it to be. yeah So the same ones. Yes. I'm i'm quite basic, I guess.
Speaker: You know what? Let's throw Stevie Nicks in there. Oh my. God, that would... That would kill me. That would be so good. that would there I don't think I'd be able to play the show. I would just. pass out on the stage and that would be my full set you're like wow i'm so glad this happened too bad i died That's so funny. No, i that would be so iconic. I can't even imagine being in the same room as Stevie Nicks.
Speaker: That would be crazy. a fucking icon yeah yes she absolutely is okay so we've got nine inch nails pretty reckless and Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker: slash tvnix Actually, yeah, Fleetwood Mac. as a band as a band yeah that would be maybe yeah And then we've got you, and that would be...
Speaker: So amazing. That would be the greatest ever. I love that. That's a great lineup. Okay. cool well let's talk a little bit about some of your latest music that you've had come out so you had an album come out or an ep i guess called what if i had friends and it seems like it's mostly a live studio album right so live versions of
Speaker: but songs that have already come out correct then there was a little bonus song in there right called killing in the name Am I right? Isn't that all right? Perfect. It's actually live as well, but.
Speaker: I don't know. I wasn't writing live studio version when it's the only one i've released felt funny so that makes sense that makes sense but but it was the the first release of the song so i think it was fitting how you did it kind of distinguished it so yeah it's a great great little collection of songs tell me all about about it. What kind of had you wanting to release like a live studio version of songs?
Speaker: Honestly. how that all came about was We were... We had to kind of reinvent the songs in order to play them live.
Speaker: And. That was such a fun process. And I think that. you know, the people that played the songs with me absolutely killed it. Mm -hmm.
Speaker: the thing is chris had like we were practicing in his studio so like you know it was I don't know. It was pure luck that... uh i was able to just be like hey so do you guys want to like just actually record these like yeah that's awesome it's so good like it's so good like i want these to be Like, you know.
Speaker: like they're different from the album for sure but like they work and That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. And then we did it. as like live live takes essentially we ran through each song only twice wow huh That's impressive.
Speaker: I livestreamed when I was singing too, because I was like, I want to show you that this is fucking live. like That's awesome. That's so cool. mm -hmm you know so much ai and everything and things overly processed i don't know i made it a point I mean, that's that's a good point to make, though. So many people are so quick to just say that everything is fake these days and like whether it is or not, it's like.
Speaker: it's frustrating when it's when you are being authentically yourself and you put so much time and effort into something and they're just like up ai and you're like AI could never do this, first of all. I could never make this, so. Yeah, yeah sure. Hope not. but yeah i
Speaker: Right, differently. But I think it was a very cool concept, though. So so basically, you you you did your songs in a way that was like. meant to be released right and so then in order to do it live you had to like tweak some things so people could play with you is that my understanding Okay. Fireside was never going to be a live project.
Speaker: Oh wow. It was, yeah. i i never thought i was going to play live with these songs so they are written as such and like i honest to god didn't even know like i play you know the drum parts on keyboard or whatever and I didn't even know if they were physically possible to play. and That's awesome. I didn't care either. I was like, I'm just writing these for me and, you know, hopefully people like it. and yeah Yeah, and then
Speaker: Yeah, I I don't know. I met Chris. He found me on Instagram when I. was like uh talking to other people other musicians in the Minneapolis scene quite a bit online. and like so he reached out and I don't know. he wanted me to come out and check out uh there's these showcases at midway saloon where there's like several artists throughout the night on Thursdays. I think they're still doing it.
Speaker: And it's really cool. So I went out there and I saw the showcase for his recommendation and we became fast friends. Like, like... just clicked and nice and then yeah we talked about i was just gonna release my album and that was gonna kind of be that and the the music videos it was going to be like a very online project like yeah i make my own music videos too And.
Speaker: It was, yeah, just the combination of those things. But then it was like, you know, we probably could play these live. And it was like, you think? That's so cool. So it kind of started as like your own little just like.
Speaker: for you type of project just like i'm just gonna make this for fun because i like doing it and then someone else came along and was like I like what you're doing and so then it like it grew from there I think that's really awesome and that's really cool and that really like shows that what you're doing is something that people really like you know because someone else came to you and was like why don't we make this happen I think that's awesome.
Speaker: That's pretty cool. That's such a cool thing. I had no idea that, you know. this was going to happen or how involved with the Minneapolis music scene I was going to be, again, because I wasn't a band years ago. and yeah Yeah, I've been out of the scene for quite a while, but...
Speaker: Yeah, I didn't think I'd be back in it but Yeah. yeah i was like are you liking like finding all the new bands and just like really just diving head first and everything again Absolutely. it's amazing i don't know why i thought i'd be able to resist yeah that's awesome so before this band had you ever like played live before Hmm?
Speaker: you had okay awesome so so yes yeah so so did you Now that you are playing live again, are you like... i can't believe i i wasn't planning on doing this live is that kind of how you feel 100 because like oh my god playing shows is my heart you know yeah yeah it completely is i i love nothing more yeah i don't know if if Let me know if this is...
Speaker: too personal but like was there a reason you kind of dropped out of like the music scene for a while Well, the band ended. And. I didn't exactly have, like, a plan or anything, but... I started that project before this one that I was kind of telling you about.
Speaker: when the band broke up. And. I was like, I want a home studio. I want to just start writing. kind of on my own terms. and you know figure out how to produce and stuff. So.
Speaker: I got a second job. when Yeah. I was already working full time, so that was really long days, but I was able to save up and get a computer, mic.
Speaker: Uh... My MIDI keyboard I still use. Nice. Yeah, a few other things and then oh and my camera for music videos. So yeah, that's awesome and i did it Yeah, I understand like sometimes just getting started is like It's expensive just to start because like you have to get all the gear and everything. and like I feel the same way trying to start this this podcasting project and venture because I was like, I need a microphone. and
Speaker: i need a whole new like computer setup i was like what you know like i need a webcam i need all this stuff and it's like i totally get it but that's sometimes the hardest part I am impressed that you figured out the MIDI keyboard. I feel like if I really tried I could but I just I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. so So I find that impressive alone.
Speaker: especially Oh, yeah, it's it's fun. I... Not gonna lie, I had plenty of exposure to that before, too. Yeah, I'm i'm sure, with like parents being musicians and and all that, so I totally yeah i get that. I had, I started on GarageBand.
Speaker: just writing random shit. when i was i don't know like 10 or something and mm -hmm Oh my gosh. I really hate this story, but I'll tell it. I.
Speaker: wrote... you know like three or four songs or whatever on my dad's computer And. He thought it would be a good idea. To burn. A bunch of CDs of them. oh man give them to my entire class for valentine's day No.
Speaker: this would end me i think i would never recover big about it i'm like i really hope no one remembers that oh my god i don like songs a 10 year old wrote just i don't care like you could be the most you could be the most talented 10 year old ever and i think
Speaker: You would still be made fun of for it. That's crazy. I was already the weird kid too. like Oh my god god. Not a good situation. And I know your dad was just sitting here like. Oh this is going to be so sweet. And just like. Oh my god.
Speaker: I'm so sorry that that happened to you. look You know it is what it is now. That's wild. I would I literally I would crumble if if my dad did that to me oh my god that's that's really funny but i'm so sorry oh my god do you still have any of them or did you just like you burn in them make sure no one else can see them
Speaker: but I honestly have no idea where any of them are. that's so funny though life happens that's awesome so long ago What a great story. That's awesome. Oh my goodness.
Speaker: so Okay. wants that. like Oh my god. that's That's hilarious, though. I can't even imagine being like a kid in that class and being like. what is this and then just like i'm sure half the kids were just like whatever and then some of them probably did listen some of them probably liked it and then there is like there's always a handful of mean kids it's just the way it is and Yeah.
Speaker: and About exactly how it went. Oh, man. There were a couple of that were really nice and told me like, I don't know, half a year later that they listened to it and liked it. And it was just like.
Speaker: they're not good though like you're that's really Oh, man, that's so funny. Okay, we'll move on from the the embarrassing story, but that was that was funny. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker: so anything for the podcast anything for the podcast and truthfully though like you don't even need to be like embarrassed by it it's more the fact that your dad thought that kids weren't going to like Bully someone for that.
Speaker: Like the act itself isn't embarrassing. It's like the fact that like kids are mean like, you know Thank you. I knew that better than him. I was like, I don't want to do that. Oh, man, that's crazy. All right. Anyway, we're going to move on from that. But yeah, so so we're going to talk a little bit still about about your most recent EP here. So yeah, so you had...
Speaker: the The one other song that wasn't previously released called Killing in the Name. Tell me a little bit about that one. That's like your most recent release. What's kind of the inspiration? What's it about? So and that's actually a Rage Against the Machine cover. What? Oh, my God. And this is the second time this has happened to me where I've asked someone about this and it's a fucking cover. God damn it. I need to do my research better. That's okay. that's okay I still.
Speaker: I love how that one came together too. It's interesting, I uh... Well I'll tell you a little bit about what's coming. yeah please do this anywhere yet but i have an ep in the works i'm hoping to release it by the end of the year and i started writing it when all of the shit was going down at the beginning of the year
Speaker: Yes. If you remember. oh i remember god you know i hate politics i do but i just think it's beyond politics at this point and i want to make a point of you know like art always has to come from a real place and it just.
Speaker: you know it broke my heart what was going on and what Ugh. but you know the songs weren't ready yet but i still really wanted to do something you know like because I had a show coming up And I was just like,
Speaker: Oh my god, I want to do a Rage Against the Machine cover. Like let's fucking do it. perfect it's perfect for you know the the protest era it's absolutely perfect yes And yeah.
Speaker: That was a... the the whole idea and i wanted I don't know I wanted people to know that they're being heard. You know, I see you protesting. I admire it. I think it's amazing that you're standing for that.
Speaker: yeah And I wish I would have. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we live in a time where it's it's so hard. You know, you you always try to do the right thing and be on the right side and some and you try to be vocal, but sometimes it's just no matter how hard you try, sometimes it's just still not enough for some people, especially. And so, I don't know. I think it's it's a good thing that you're...
Speaker: you're getting out there you're like you're writing about it I don't think it matters like when when you you act as long as you do you know and i think i think you're doing a good thing so yeah like Yeah. But, No, that's that's awesome. I'm glad you threw that cover in there. i Obviously, I'm not the biggest Rage Against the Machine fan. Not for any reason. I'm just not familiar. So sorry about that. That's fine. Maybe you'll become a fan.
Speaker: That's the thing. Yes. Yes, for sure. I mean, I know a little bit from like Guitar Hero and stuff, but that's like it. I'm not like. Yeah, I wouldn't consider myself - Wasn't that Bulls on Parade that was on? It was Bulls on Parade. And obviously I know Tom Morello. So like, I know those. I know more than - Nothing.
Speaker: But I didn't know that was a song, so that's my bad. Literally, it happens. Like, you don't know everything. Yeah, that's true. I take everything. I'm usually that guy, just so you know. And people are like, you're a musician. And I'm like, yeah, well, I'm not a smart musician or a cultured musician. so You're like, I'm not supposed to know everything. Every day is an opportunity to learn something. and that's Exactly.
Speaker: That's what I say. so yeah let's talk a little bit about some stuff oh yeah so you you said you had an ep coming out sometime but before the end of the year, right? So is there anything you can kind of tease about it or that you'd like to tease about it before it comes out?
Speaker: not I don't know not to, you know, pat myself on the shoulder here, but it's it's fucking good. It's fun. I'm so excited about it. I am really excited about it.
Speaker: The thing about my album... I'm very proud of my album. But also... the songs Some of them are as old as like seven years old at this point.
Speaker: wow And I have. come a long way since then? and like i don't know i feel like it shows in the music like but you know i've been doing this a while now at least but And.
Speaker: So I'm able to actually kind of do more what I'm thinking in my head than I used to be able to, if that makes sense, because the skills just weren't there yet, you know? and It totally does. and you know, I'm not much of a player. I'm more of a writer. So, you know.
Speaker: I still have that issue. Yeah. but yeah No, it's... yeah and i think every like piece that you release should always be like your best work you know what i mean because it's like you're always learning and evolving. And so it's like If something you made now sounds the same as it did seven years ago, like, personally, I don't think you're trying hard enough.
Speaker: that's I don't know, that might be a hot take, but personally, I think everyone should be evolving, you know? It's like, why are you like... creating if you're not trying to just do better I don't know if that makes sense forever it's a forever transformation like exactly it's really cool things like i don't know like Like David Bowie like was making albums until like, you know to the bitter end and you know.
Speaker: They always... Okay. like you can hear the progression over time and it's cool it is cool i'm like and i think there's like you can totally admire
Speaker: anyone's work from any time but i think it's unfair to an artist to expect them to stay in the same space as they were yeah when they started you know what i mean i i definitely think that artists should be allowed to move forward into some sort of genre -less whatever they're trying to do, right? Or just perhaps make art for fun. so So thank you. art has
Speaker: I don't know. I guess it doesn't have to, but I don't know. To me, art has to be real and it's real when it comes from the heart. and the hearts evolve like hearts change over time like what you know what feels deep to you changes over time and i mean even like sonically like sounds like yeah like we were talking earlier how like instrumentals can tell a story like you know, different.
Speaker: As you go through your life different things will feel different. and totally my artists follow that i admire it so much i hate when they Of course fans want to hear the same first album. but you know just slightly different yeah at least mainstream wise but like yeah i feel like the more like underground you go the more you find the people who are like Who...
Speaker: just love the artist because they're expressing something that they feel deeply whatever that feeling is or you know whatever they're trying to convey to you and it's that's the music that I think really connects with me the most and connects to a lot of people the most so I it's really cool that that's something that you take very like personally and and take very seriously you know you're just you make art that you want to make but you make it so that you know, people feel something and I think that's really cool.
Speaker: Yes. It's always cool. yeah yeah exactly but yeah i'm very excited for that that new piece to come out yeah whenever it comes out i'm very excited for that so Yeah. Oh, guess what?
Speaker: for that show that you asked me to play we're gonna debut one of the songs off of it too so oh excellent that's amazing that's actually the perfect segue because i was just about to talk about that actually so that's amazing Yeah, so upcoming Minneapolis folks, Minneapolis St. Paul, everyone. On October 18th at Amsterdam Bar and Hall, we have got the lovely Fireside Shadow playing with Witchy Boys, who are from Bloomington, Illinois, and then Of the Orchard and Fiona Hayes, who are from here in Minneapolis. So if you guys are available then, October 18th, we have a really cool, amazing show put together. So I'm very excited for that one. It's going to be a really great time. time. so and of course honored that you're able to to play the show
Speaker: So excited. so yes yes and then we had you play with with nick karcher back in the spring how did you love that did you love getting to play with him and everyone else there Amazing. Amazing. That was so fun. That was such a cool show.
Speaker: Yes, that was that was a great show. And that was where I first met you and got to say hey. And so yeah, I'm i'm very glad that we were able to to meet and make that that show come together. It was a really great time.
Speaker: Yes. I couldn't agree more. That was awesome. Yes, yes. So yeah, aside from from that show in Amsterdam, which I'm so stoked for, do you have any other shows that are upcoming on the books?
Speaker: Not at the moment. Okay, we'll have to get more for you. I would love that. I have to start probably planning out. I don't know, maybe like later winter. I did kind of intentionally take a little bit of a break.
Speaker: One. because Well, you know i wanted to get back into the writing headspace and then Also, The. drummer uh chase who plays with us We can't really.
Speaker: It would be really hard for him to. like play with us over like the summer and early fall so Yes. that makes sense so i mean intentional hiatus has happened for everyone and i think it's it's a good time to like reconnect and just like you know, get yourself to. wherever it is that you need to go. so Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker: So for sure. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to ask you a couple of... A couple more questions before we wrap this up here. We've been talking for a bit now already. I can't believe it. Okay.
Speaker: This one, I always love this one. So what are some things that you enjoy to... like doing outside of music do you have any other fun like hobbies shows you like to watch stuff like that I'm a very artsy.
Speaker: person me too yeah so uh You know, drawing, painting. Nice.
Speaker: I like. you know walks. i love I love a good walk. weve i mean the weather is so hit or miss around here but when it's nice i love going for a walk nice it's really nice to just zone out with
Speaker: music on but absolutely that's that's the only way to zone out is with music on so sure What kind of like like painting and drawing do you do? Do you do like, is there like a certain style you like to do?
Speaker: Well, let's see. Does this come off? No, it does not. So I...
Speaker: I don't know how to explain my style It's... I, of course, like probably a bazillion other people. like started with kind of an anime -ish kind of style. and it isn't really like that anymore but you can kind of see it in there okay cool not gonna lie is it like like cartoon realism or like
Speaker: or I don't know if that's even a word or like the right thing. I don't know. But yeah. More realistic than anime. uh not cartoony like yeah me but Yeah.
Speaker: Okay. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I think I got the vibe. Okay. Not realism either. like I guess, okay, my tattoos are kind of i don't draw like that but like you know how it's kind of okay realistic but yes yes yes yeah okay cool i like that i think that's that's badass i really love that so awesome well cool yeah i like to do lots of artsy stuff too so i'm in the same boat Okay.
Speaker: So fun. Now, this next question will... maybe make you think a little bit. What is one piece of advice you would give to your younger self if you could?
Speaker: music or un -music related. the That is a great question. yeah Take your time. Okay. like It took me such a long time to actually like realize that I wanted to pursue music and not just write things.
Speaker: Mm hmm. I think I would have. I don't know. told myself ditch those dudes in that one band yeah you know just try to find people who are serious about it like me You know? For sure.
Speaker: Yeah, and it's like You really do just have to start. Yeah. that's the hardest part of anything is just starting it once once you start you can go anywhere mm -hmm And yeah, it's not.
Speaker: This would be advice for like anybody that wants to make music but like It doesn't matter. If you don't have the tools, still start. the tools are just the tools Absolutely.
Speaker: yeah you have to start somewhere it can be small it doesn't have to be like you're creating you know Big masterpiece songs like instantly you can start small just by learning how to how to use the tools Learning what you need to do to acquire the tools like whatever so yeah and yeah it all just snowballs anyway and it's like honestly if you take your time collecting the gear too like i mean you learn about it as you get it and it's not like
Speaker: all this stuff that you're ultimately not going to use because it's overwhelming, you know? Yeah, exactly. I've seen people fall into that trap where they think, you know, they have to have all the gear and then...
Speaker: they don't do it yeah exactly mm -hmm Yeah, do you? have any advice for any for women in particular that that want to get into like the production industry or the songwriting industry?
Speaker: In the industry, like... i I don't know that I have any advice for that because I don't even know if I'm in the industry. but yeah but like as far as if they wanted to get started producing.
Speaker: That's a good question. o Because what the hell did I do? if you don't have anything that's okay too but just curious Yeah, I guess it's kind of the same thing like and Just start with what you have and build as you go.
Speaker: Mm hmm. and Yeah. Everything builds as you go. That's also though you know the skills too. Mm hmm. For sure. Yeah I agree. Okay. Cool. And then this last one here is is a little bit more fun. But what is one song that's written by another person that you wish you would have written yourself?
Speaker: That's. It's hard. Man, what songs do I even know? Jeez. Dude, I know i could talk all day about music and as soon as someone asks me something i'm like i don't know any songs i'm like i know i've never heard music before Man.
Speaker: yeah like one that like Speaks to your soul super hard and you're like, Damn. I so wish I would have written that. Hmm. off of I've been really into Hayley Williams solo stuff. I really liked...
Speaker: Yeah, some of that stuff I kind of wish I would have written. like I really like my loom. That sounds cool. Cinnamon's really cool. I just like the whole concept of cinnamon because it's almost like you.
Speaker: it You can tell it's rhythmic, but you don't hear how until the end. like I think that's just so cool. Actually, I'm going to go with Cinnamon by Hayley Williams. Hell yes. I love that. That's a great answer. So amazing. Well, thanks so much, Reba, for being on today. That's all I've got for you. But is there anything else you'd like listeners to know before we we head out for the day?
Speaker: Hmm. Well, if you want to hang out with me online... I'm fireside shadow on everything. Excellent. And...
Speaker: Yeah, if you're listening to this podcast, you are actively supporting the music community and you are important. And that's amazing. Agreed. I couldn't agree more. So thanks so much for spending some time with me today and, you know, getting to know each other a little bit better and yeah, letting everyone else know who Fireside Shadow is. So thanks so much.
Speaker: Thank you.
