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SONY'S NEW HANDHELD & PERSONA 3 REMAKE?! - Add to Party 04.11.2023
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I am returned to my rightful place and we discuss Sony's next handheld, a Persona 3 remake, a new Nintendo event, the death of DREAMS, and more!
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Introduction to Add To You Party Podcast
00:00:14
Speaker
Welcome to Add To You Party, a friendship simulator masquerading as a new show. I am your host, returned to his rightful place, James Hartwell, and I am joined by
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Retired overlord Charles.
Hosts' Philosophy and Lifestyle Discussion
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I've been joined by a ride in the wave. Stay in the same Andy. Andy knows this place, you know, and I admire that. Listen, you know, I see this power conflict and I see effort. I see work. And listen, my life is the path of least resistance. OK.
00:00:49
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That's why I'm drinking.
Food Talk: From Beer to Cooking with Chickpeas
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Oh, I thought I grabbed Happy Place. I had a beer called Happy Place, but this is heavenly haze. That's how I live my life. So which of these is the cause of your stomach problem? The Happy Place? Literally five seconds before we started recording, and he's like, my tummy feels bad. And then he's like, let me tell you about this beer I'm drinking. OK, OK.
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Speaker
So I was cooking a meal. And guys, I don't know how I feel about chickpeas and hummus. Oh, I love it. I don't know if it's for me. I think it's upsetting my tummy. Chickpeas are gross.
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Speaker
Have you roasted them, Charles? I roasted them with red onions. Oh, it seems like the red onions would should have saved it. They were good. They actually added a nice little. I don't know. There's like this like like painful dullness to like chickpeas and hummus. I don't know what it is, but it just sits on you. You seasoned it poorly then. What's that? No, I seasoned it fine. Did you though?
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I had chickpeas for dinner tonight too, Andy. Oh, did you? Did you roast them? No, I had a curry. Oh, okay. Using coconut milk picked by monkeys. Oh, did you make a HelloFresh? Yeah. Me too. Oh, here's a question for you. Something I've been struggling with.
Attire in the Kitchen: Aprons Debate
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What's that, buddy? Do you guys wear aprons when you cook? No.
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I have one. Yeah, I have. I have an apron. That's only for things that I think would be messy.
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There's a lot of my cooking it or like if I'm deep frying something sometimes. OK, like I'll be honest, I cook a lot like, you know, like from the comfort of my home, which means I'm barely wearing anything. Right. But if I hold. Yeah. If I cook something and I think it might be dangerous to my barely wearing anything. Sure. It's apron time. OK, OK. Well, I have been because cooking is messy.
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And like oil is always splattering. My stove is a mess. And so I started wearing an apron. And it's great. My shirt shirts aren't getting dirty. I've been enjoying it. But not that I, you know, stalk my neighbors, but I watch them and they never wear aprons when they cook. And I'm trying to figure out. You should leave a note, you know, where they're going.
00:03:27
Speaker
I noticed you haven't been using an apron. Aren't they splattering oil on themselves? Aren't they getting hurt? The answer to that, Andy, is yes. And I choose it as a level of survival of the fittest. If a T-shirt gets oil stains on it, it's not meant to be. Oh, so you accept that risk?
00:03:47
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Yeah. Oh, here I thought I was the fool trying to protect my shirts when really, everyone is just ruining their shirts. It's not that they're better than me. Oh, I throw shirts. I throw out shirts constantly because they got too new. Well, that sounds fair. Caitlin throws out shirts. She gets mad at me about it. Oh, wow. Oh, oh, my God. This is like a whole new thing. I've never realized other people get oil stains on their shirts. Yeah.
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I thought it was just me. Well, not since I started wearing an apron. Oh, this is great. I appreciate this feedback.
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I'm feeling more comfortable around this. Except for your tummy, which isn't feeling good. And just, well, you know, hummus, hummus isn't my thing. I don't know.
Andy and the Puzzle Adventure
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But I've also been trying to find with the roommate that loved hummus. Yeah, I know she did. And God bless her. She could always make it look really good. Like she would put wonderful things on it. It was colorful and it looked rich and delicious. And then you'd have it and it's just like
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Nothing. It's just nothing. It's just or maybe it's just not for me. I don't know. But this was the first time I've ever cooked with it or dealt with chickpeas. Maybe it's something I have to get used to. I don't know. Are chickpeas healthier? Am I being a healthy boy by eating this meal? I mean, they're they're a soy that they're a source of vegetable protein. Oh, OK. Well, I need protein. All right. Fill me up. Yum, yum, yum.
00:05:16
Speaker
Hmm, OK. Well, I think I can power through my tummy ache with heavenly haze six point two alcohol by volume. And we're going to get through this. Thank you. Do you guys have fun aprons? No, no, James. No, no. OK, because I was wondering about that, too, because I was thinking about getting a fun apron. But then I doubted myself when I realized my neighbors weren't wearing aprons.
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I kind of wanted an Ava one, but I couldn't find one. I mean, Andy, you could get a fun apron. I used to have a fun apron, and then I realized something about myself. I like cooking alone. Yeah, exactly.
Charles' Gunpla Crafting Journey
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If I'm cooking alone, that's it, then if I like cooking alone and I technically cook alone,
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I'd rather just, you know, not ruin this fun apron and just use a plain one. Hmm. Yeah, because if it's a fun apron, it's going to get dirty. And it's like the same same thing as ruining a T-shirt. Yeah, but that's part of that. Those are the memories. Grease memories on your apron. What was your fun apron? It was just like a character one with some fun words about cooking.
00:06:38
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Aww, that's sweet. I want a cringe one, but I couldn't find one.
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But I want a fun apron. I want one that sparks joy for me because right now mine's just like a like a plain like gray striped apron that I got, I don't know, like over 10 years ago. It was like, yeah. But here's the thing, Andy, you can use that and then you could role play like you're part of a you're like the new chef at a professional cooking room. I prefer that I was at a school that settled all problems with cooking.
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I'm constantly facing expulsion for any argument. Or Andy, you've been teleported to a fantasy world and your only skill is that you can order things from an online grocery store. Gosh darn it, you mentioned that and I haven't seen it.
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If it's clever, how many episodes are you into it, James? I finished it. It's 12. Oh, and it stays good? Yeah. Thank God. It's half cooking show. I love it. I love it. Oh, my gosh. Well, OK. I have more ways to be inspired. I appreciate you guys's thoughtfulness and candidness regarding your apron usage. And maybe, you know, next podcast, I will have a fun new apron. I don't know. A Kirby apron, Andy.
00:08:03
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I could get a Kirby apron. Oh, can I talk about my gift? You can talk about your Kirby gift. Oh, my gosh. You guys podcast audience at large. I am a puzzler. Thanks to James on his Japan trip. He returned cramming his entire luggage full of gifts for me. Just me of Kirby puzzles.
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And I got them in the mail
Rumors and Announcements in Gaming
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and I did a 52 piece puzzle, my first puzzle since I was probably eight at my grandma's house. Just to give a review of the puzzle. OK, the pieces were of, you know, regular quality, I would say it had a medium. Funny how he just shits on my gift right in front of me.
00:08:50
Speaker
Um, the gloss was good. The colors were vibrant. It did have reflection, but that's how you get the punch. Okay. It did fail the pickup challenge. Uh, for those not familiar, that is when you take a completed puzzle and attempt to hold it up, um, a measure of quality again, to see how close the pieces fit. It failed.
00:09:10
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That's OK. OK. That's OK, because there was no false fits. The cut of the puzzle was still interesting. It still had four pieces in or out, but there was variation. And again, no false edges either. Good for a starter puzzle. I decided not to work around the edges, but to start within the middle. I did not look at the box because I'm a hardcore puzzler. And it was such a joy. It was such a joy.
00:09:38
Speaker
Thank you, James. I have two more puzzles to complete now. But I got to tell you guys, the one thing about puzzles is what do you do with them afterwards? I mean, some people just put them back in the box and then they experience the job putting them together again, or they they spray like there's a resin you can spray on them. And and with that, then you can like frame them more or less.
00:10:01
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See, that's what I was looking into, but I don't know. I think that's one thing I avoided about puzzles is that there's a kind of sadness for me, a sadness of just putting it together and taking it apart. It's like ephemeral. I think that's the right word, right? It's fleeting. It's appreciation of the process, but there's no product in the end that I can display. I mean, you mentioned a couple of things, but I'm not going to lie. I don't know if I want to display it.
00:10:29
Speaker
By the way, the picture was the cover of Kirby and the Forgotten Land. And it was just wonderful. But it got me thinking about puzzles and I got a couple more to do. That was my puzzler journey. Thank you for starting it. And we'll see where I go. And Charles, you picked up a new hobby. Yeah, I guess this is a segue for me.
00:10:54
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Uh, during, during the weekend at the anime convention, they were holding a panel for Gunpla. Uh, and my sister was interested and I was interested. So, uh, they came in, they let you pick Gunpla for free to work on. And you just had one, uh, which turned out to be wildly successful. And we were having a good time with it. And it was as nice, like, uh, it was a room for Gunpla crafting. So throughout the com, throughout the entire weekend, you could just go in there.
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and work on Gunpla and then take it with you when you leave, come back later if you want and just keep working on it. And it was this nice little cycle of, is there nothing to do? You're waiting for the next panel. Go in there and work on your Gunpla.
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and met a lot of people, met some vendors that are really nice, a lot of cool supportive community members. And long story short, I have three high grade gunplas that were completed over the weekend. High grades are very easy to work on, let me tell you.
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But now I'm working on a real grade Gunpla, which is the same size, 144 scale. However, there's a lot more details and parts. So I'm trying to do a little bit more work to improve, like removing nut marks and
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Um, I have a detailing pen and I'm practicing on their high grades to see how they look. Um, and so far I don't like it. I might have to, I think I might have to go into the
Game Features and Industry Changes
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pant Tamiya panel lining stuff. It's not that expensive. I bought that Charles.
00:12:34
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No, yeah, I don't think it would be expensive. It's just this, you know, they didn't have it at the exhibition floor for me to buy. Oh, I got you. So now I'll have to go buy my local gun plus store and support them like I should and get some stuff there. But it'll be fun. It's exciting stuff. I have no room for any of this. My my little sister had the nice foresight to
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get me a little plastic stand thing that I could put above one of my bookshelves that's already crowded so that the gun club figures can stand out and stand on a little platform. So now the three high-grade stand in a sort of Mexican standoff, even though one of them only has swords. But that's fine. It's Gundam. They'll kill that person anyways.
00:13:33
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But yeah, it's a it's a good time. I've cut myself three times already with the exact. Yeah. Good. But, you know, still going. I got the tweezers ready to put decals on the robot. And like my friend asked last night, do you use this to play a game of some kind? The answer is no. You just want to let them look cool. Oh, much. Yeah.
00:13:59
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Yeah. And I love it in between things. Charles, how how much was your interest in in trying this based on those videos we watched when we were in Hawaii? Oh, well, I mean, to be fair, James, I was the one that put up purposely put those videos up. Oh, I know. But I'm just saying like how much of that was in.
00:14:19
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Let's say, I mean, my thing with Gundams is, um, I was already, um, into Legos and all that stuff. And I made a Gundam before, um, which was an Epion high grade way back when.
00:14:35
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Um, so I liked them, but I just didn't find the practicality of doing them necessarily, which I'm running into now even. Um, and my biggest thing right now is, uh, just saying, all right, I don't have to make it as good as any gunplay videos we've seen so far. Um, I can just, I could assemble some, not everyone. I like, I, I'm not really.
00:15:04
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I'm not in there to just buy any Gunpla to make and think and assemble. I just want to make the ones I think were cool. Do those and then be done because I just don't have room and I don't think it's practical. I'll consider this a skill I dabble in and not like a full new skill that I want to hone to the best.
00:15:29
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Yeah. So, yeah, you know, even with all the stuff we saw, I was just like, that's pretty cool. I'm not making anything like that. Yeah. But what was nice was that I thought was really good was that I got to spend time with my sister while making Gunpla and she was excited to do it. And then I also got to meet other people that were also new into Gunpla. And, you know, everyone kind of shared the hobby.
00:15:56
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Because guess what was nice about the room? It was a wide diverse around of people that were into it. They were people you'd expect. People like me. But they were also...
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like younger kids, like let's say 12 and below with their parents coming in and working on Gunpla together, multiple families. They were a bunch of minorities represented, you know, women and other people of color working on it. And you go, man, that's nice.
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And to be fair, Gunpla is like a hobby I don't necessarily think white men work on primarily. But it was nice to see this giant diverse group of people just working on something and like not be a shitty thing to do with them.
00:16:54
Speaker
I'm, you know, not to say the community is spotless. Of course, it's not. It's never never no communities. No, it's spotless, Charles. But it is just nice that all these people got to go around, talk, learn about stuff, share discords and have a wonderful. Very sweet. That is welcome to the hobby for however long you stay.
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Mean, you know, I'll come back with if there's another cool thing cool Gundam the cup shows up I'll work on those should you that tall geese? Yeah No, I need to save room for things. I especially love Where's the sombrero Gundam? Is there a kit for that? I Don't know Charles
00:17:44
Speaker
I think that's fair that you're trying to make sure that you save room for your house, because guess what? Go in, James. Transition. Sony wants to sell you its next handheld. Oh, yeah.
Upcoming Gaming Releases and Plans
00:18:03
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So, almost a week ago at this point, insidergaming.com put up a exclusive saying that they have confirmed, according to their sources, that there is a new PlayStation handheld in development
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codenamed The Q-Lite, the next PlayStation handheld is the next piece of Sony hardware that aims to be yet another piece of hardware that requires the PlayStation 5. The Q-Lite is not a cloud streaming device, but instead uses remote play exclusively with the PlayStation 5. So basically...
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Speaker
So basically what you get is how they described it was, as for the console's physical features, early prototypes of the console will look a lot like a PlayStation 5 controller, but with a 8-inch LCD touchscreen in the center. The device supports adapter triggers for haptic feedback and will include what you expect from a handheld volume button, speakers, audio input jack, etc.
00:19:03
Speaker
The timing for this is that it is expected to release before the PlayStation five pro, which unconfirmed, but definitely is coming and the detachable disk drive for the PS five digital edition. Attachable. Interesting. Yeah. Basically, basically they're going to sell you a little disk drive that you can attach to your digital one if you want to have a Blu-ray player for it. Makes sense. I did that with the Xbox.
00:19:31
Speaker
They did do that with the Xbox 360 with the HD DVD drive, Andy. Correct. Oh, yeah. The HD DVD that took off. Yeah. It's understood that the PlayStation 5 Pro is aiming for a holiday 2024 release. Oh, so that means we could potentially see this this holiday season. Oh. Now, James, lover of handhelds. No, I'm not buying this. What? You'd buy anything? No, because I already have a steam deck that does this.
00:20:03
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Yeah, I was actually going to bring that up, right? Like I don't think it's like remote play is a perfectly acceptable solution to play games. Like even right now, the solution people come up with to play PlayStation five games on your steam deck is to get a remote play client working on the steam deck. It does. That's great. And it works fine. I think it's completely valid. So I'm not I'm not opposed to the idea of this handheld just because I think
00:20:33
Speaker
This would make a highlight of this really useful feature that I don't think everyone uses enough to play it on. It is going to be a matter of I think it's going to be more a matter of price than anything. Yeah. If you say, hey, we have this thing and it's like one hundred twenty five, maybe I might just set that up. I would say anything over two hundred instead on arrival.
00:21:00
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Over 150 it's real messy if you could sell this thing. What's it where they saw? dual sense for whatever 70 yeah, 70 Yeah, if you get this thing at like 140
00:21:16
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Yeah, that's that's not bad, but I have a feeling it's going to be more expensive than that. Although they said LCD touch screen, so not OLED. That'll keep price down. I don't know. It's it's it. I think it's weird. It's this is not a it is a handheld. Right. But they're not creating like a new Vita or a new PSP environment. Like Sony's like, listen, we're not making two fucking consoles worth of games again. Right. Even Nintendo doesn't do that anymore. Right.
00:21:44
Speaker
Yeah, it's like we have one line and we make games for one console. So I don't know. I just don't know what. It's such a weird use case argument. Like I have a PS5.
00:22:02
Speaker
But I don't want to play it in my room. And and and yeah, that's great. I mean, that's what the steam deck is, right? And I there's a use case there. But the difference with the steam deck is I can play games on that anywhere. Yeah. With this, I kind of have to only play them in my house, which basically means it's one of those things where it's like, remember, I've done remote play over not local network. It's not great.
00:22:32
Speaker
But it's like so it's like, well, I can play it on the toilet or in bed. So that's kind of I don't know. Yeah, it's just bring it to your toilet. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting that you had a bad problem with the remote play outside of your house. That's it. I didn't have that problem. Really? Yeah, I don't know.
00:22:59
Speaker
But you guys said the steam deck can do the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. I like because in the steam deck, you install the remote play client on it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's like a third party remote place. OK. Yeah. I thought it was like Linux based. I didn't know they made it for them. I mean, I think I don't know. Someone figured it out. Well, God bless them. Yeah.
00:23:26
Speaker
Well, I don't want it. But you Charles. I mean, I wouldn't mind it. Like there are certainly games I play exclusively on my PlayStation 5. It would be nice to be able to play it when I travel. You know, there's fine. If it's if it's the right price point, which I less than $150, I'll probably pick it up just for the convenience.
00:23:52
Speaker
Here's the thing I'll say, and it's kind of interesting. So this is led into the discussion of the PlayStation 5 Pro, which we've also we've kind of been talking about a little bit lately, too. So this is, you know, this kind of goes hand in hand with that. I think Jeff Grubb called the second phase of the PS5. Do you do you feel like you need a PS5 Pro? Because I don't know.
00:24:16
Speaker
Yeah, nothing's pushing the PS5. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like maybe Final Fantasy 16 will be the one that will and we'll talk about that soon. But I have not had an experience on the PS5 or I've been like, Oh God, this console struggling. Yeah. Yeah. The best looking game is Horizon Forbidden West, which came out last year and PlayStation 5 was handling that just fine. Yeah.
00:24:42
Speaker
And yeah, and to be honest with you, I don't like the trend of Incremental improvements for consoles cross generation, you know within the same generation necessarily I mean, I think with the ps4 to the ps4 pro was decent like because remember like the ps like people talk about the ps4 Like late gen and it was like a jet engine taking off, right? I'll be honest. I never noticed it. I
00:25:10
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I like, you know, and I'm not saying they're wrong. It's just that I don't know. I'm also one of those people that like doesn't necessarily notice the 60 FPS, 30 FPS difference. So like, you know, I'm not that person. I'm not those detail people. So.
00:25:28
Speaker
Other people probably have, you know, they have fair points. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's such a weird position. I think Sony Zen is one because the launch of the PS5. I mean, I think we have just now in like the last three months gotten to a point where you can walk into a store and buy a PS5. It's been it's taken that long. And because of that, like console developers haven't seen game developers haven't gone so crazy with like their settings.
00:25:55
Speaker
Like, because there's still a lot of games are still going on the PS4 for better or worse. Um, so, so he's in this weird position where it's like, you haven't like use this console yet as far as I'm concerned. Right. Um,
00:26:13
Speaker
So I don't know. I mean, we have a lot of big games. Like I said, we have a lot of big games coming out. Final Fantasy 16, Marvel, Spider-Man two. Maybe those will be the ones that kind of be like, all right, this is what the machine can do. And also we're going to kill it. So you buy a piece.
00:26:29
Speaker
five for a year. But I don't know. It's it's interesting. I'm the handheld. I'm like, I again, right. The same deck already fills my needs, so I don't particularly feel the need. But it seems like such a weird swing to just be like,
00:26:45
Speaker
We're going to release a controller that plays PS5 that has a screen like I don't know if either of you knew, but they've cut back their projections on how many PS VR twos they're going to sell and their production because no one's buying them. So it seems weird for them also to kind of swing on this very specific use case handheld device as well. That's right. I don't know.
00:27:11
Speaker
No, it's definitely a weird move. The jokes, I'm always surprised about peripheral hardware from Sony, just because classically, they don't do well. I want to believe there's an internal bet
00:27:33
Speaker
For the like the between the CEO and the R&D teams, that's just like, listen, this is the one. All right. We get this going. We'll beat everybody. I mean, I mean, the DualSense Edge has been out now for almost half a year, a little less.
00:27:50
Speaker
And nobody's talking about it, like not to the extent that people talk about the Xbox Pro controller. Mm hmm. I'll be honest, I don't I don't hear anybody here talk about it, but that's just my life again. That's true. I mean, I still think the pro controller has a market share because it was their first. And Microsoft pushes it to a certain extent, too, right? They put marketing behind it. I think Sony threw the dual sense edge out there. That's the dual sense with the back pedals.
00:28:21
Speaker
And just kind of was like, well, it's here. Leave us alone. Stop bugging us about it. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I just want a PS5 slim. Make a slim. I mean, that'll probably come, too. I mean, they usually do a console refresh around the same time they do the pro, too. But we'll see. Yeah. I mean, it's a beefy boy. It could.
00:28:43
Speaker
And how about they fix mine so that it doesn't just randomly turn off? How about you fix that, Tony, before you? We still haven't gotten that fix. And every time I call Sony, they're like, oh, yeah, we know about the problem. It's going to be fixed in the next update. And it's like, you're lying. And I know it's not the person on the phone's fault, but they're just lying. My PS5 just keeps crashing. I don't know what to do about it. Who else is lying, Andy?
00:29:12
Speaker
Uh, people who say persona three remake might be, might be remade. Okay. Can you reword that? No, it's confusing on purpose. So a per leaked footage of a persona three remake came out in the past couple of days, um, including as part of a sizzle reel that was for, uh, investors that include.
00:29:38
Speaker
footage of remakes of both Jet Set Radio and Persona 3. This is from IGN. Gebatsu subsequently reported that the Persona 3 remake is indeed in development, though it couldn't corroborate the footage. And also adding fuel to these, a Twitter user responded a potential name in p3re.jp, a URL that was registered back in March. The domain name is registered to the same provider as the Persona 5 Royal website.
00:30:08
Speaker
Um, basically that the persona three remake is going to be remade in the persona five engine, more or less with updated visuals. Um, wow. And so on a five engine. Yep. Hey, you know how you sell a handheld with persona three, a portable. God damn. What's it's title going to be though?
00:30:32
Speaker
persona three, well, so revolver blue is the, um, blue is persona three, right? Right. What's a, what's a special way to say blue Azure. Royal Azure is good. Yeah. Um,
00:30:50
Speaker
Oh, they did royal, they can't do royal. Uh, yeah, Azure's good. Azure's just kind of hard to say. Sapphire, that's Pokemon. Sapphire's blue. That's dangerous to say. Yeah. Yes. Sapphire's blue. For some of the noticed pictures, like, red. Like, I mean, sapphires are a lot of colors, but generally speaking, they're blue. Um, yeah. Uh, so, quick question. I have the remake that they released on Steam. I haven't played it yet. Have either of you played Persona 3?
00:31:19
Speaker
I played a little bit of it on the PS2. I played Fez. Yeah, I didn't play through it. Okay. It should be fun. I know a lot of people actually do like Persona 3. Yeah, I think people say Persona 3 has the best story in their opinion.
00:31:37
Speaker
Oh, that's I mean, everyone like we love five, but persona three is like right on its heels because it's because the only reason five better is because it's a modern game and persona three is not a modern game. Wait, are people hating on persona four? No, no. They're just like three is better. If you say three is better, that means you hate for that. Yeah, that's not how. Yeah, that's exactly how it works. This isn't okay.
00:32:06
Speaker
I don't know. Three didn't connect with me as much. But to be fair, I played three after four because you didn't like shooting yourself in the head to summon your persona. And honestly, like as you as I'm like more of an adult, that's a really uncomfortable image.
00:32:23
Speaker
I wonder, I wonder if they're going to change that if they remade. Yeah, I remember my first team out. I want them to keep it forces stay with it. Make that same decision. I mean, it's very stylish and like interesting, both as a theme and the image. But like now it's just like, I mean, like, here's the thing.
00:32:45
Speaker
The story reason is they put themselves in mortal danger for the persona to come out. So if it's not a gun to the head, do you want a knife? Do you want them to jump off a building? I get why they did it and I don't think they take it out.
00:33:03
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I'm just saying, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's just it hasn't for me. It hasn't aged well, but I wouldn't want to say that the idea or theme hasn't aged well. I just I don't know. I'm I would also say the fact that.
00:33:20
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I mean, based on this information, it seems like the announcement of a Persona 3 remake is incoming. Like I wouldn't, I would suspect it to be this summer. Based on all the sims. What does that mean for Persona 6?
00:33:35
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I look, they the company, Atlas is fucking weird that they messed up their whole year celebrating the entire persona anniversary. And any time that everyone expected a new game announcement, it wasn't. Yeah. I feel like there must have been internal delays and they just could fuck their entire schedule up. And I just kind of like, well, we'll figure it out. But I feel like the remake and the new game should have been announced by now.
00:34:01
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Yeah, like at the very least the remake should have been announced during the celebration. Yeah. But I just I'm very curious, right? So you have to think about it. If they announce it this summer, it comes out early 2024. Just based on when Atlas usually releases things.
00:34:23
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And then past that, it's like, so does that mean we don't get persona six until like 2025, 2026.
00:34:32
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Because that'll be like, what, fucking eight years since Persona 5? Persona 5 came out in like 2019, right? I think so. Even earlier than that, I would have thought. Well, it came out in Japan first, and we waited a year. Actually, shit, Persona 5 came out in 2016. So we are already... Wow. We are already seven years out from the release of Persona 5.
00:35:02
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Yeah, longer than Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. Yeah. I want, I don't know. I learned when I finished Persona 5, I thought to myself.
00:35:12
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I don't need another one of these. Yeah, that's that's such a weird statement because they're not like they're not tied together. Yeah, exactly. Right. It's like if they have a story to tell, just keep making them. I guess I think mainly number one, because it was so gosh darn long. Maybe I was just exhausted off of it. But I think also and not that you can't do both at the same time, but I was like,
00:35:36
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Catherine was so good. Like I love, you know, you love, I know I love Catherine and I would love this team to experiment more in adult themes. That's interesting. What if persona six is with adults? I would 10,000% love it. Bring it, bring it.
00:35:53
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Right. Oh, my God. I could be all based in Japan. What's that? No, no, no game based in Japan. Japan can be based around adults. That's why every story involving adults is isekai, because if they're not isekai, they're working 80 hours a week beside Jacuzza. Yeah, but they're they're gangsters. They're you're you're playing their job. It's just that their job is actually interesting.
00:36:19
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Well, what I'm trying to also say into here is this, that, um, let's say Andy doesn't like the other Yakuza games, but he loved like a dragon cause they changed it up and it was all adults. Well, yeah, Kiryu is like 36 and like the first one. Yeah. He's now he's a good adult man.
00:36:39
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Yeah, I appreciated the cast and because I've only played each and it's like a light dabble is zero. And I think just the combat is not for me. But God, did I love like a dragon? Holy moly. So bring it. God, if persona had people like in their 30s and 40s.
00:36:58
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Like, yes, we've all aged up with persona. Are you going to play persona? Yes, I do. So many cosplayers, I could tell you that. Yeah. Zoomers would play a turn based RPG. Yes, Andy, they do. Yeah. Oh, this is again, Andy's moment of what do you mean? Media doesn't follow my life. I just thought it would be to, you know,
00:37:29
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Slow. All right. Moving on. Speaking what isn't slow, that's Nintendo taking its opportunity to seize E3. Oh, today, as a matter of fact.
00:37:48
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Nintendo Live was announced an in-person event for fans of all ages that will take place in Seattle this September. Experienced Nintendo Switch gameplay, live stage performances, tournaments, photo ops, and more. They did not announce the exact date. This is also something that occurs in Japan. Usually, this will be the first time it happens in America or the first time in at least recent memory.
00:38:12
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Is this going to be announcements or just kind of a celebration? It's usually more of like kind of like a fairground thing where they kind of have like an outdoor like an outdoor convention. There are sometimes there's announcements and stuff like that, but it's really like a celebrate Nintendo kind of thing.
00:38:30
Speaker
That's so nice. What's up? I get reminded and I think about this whenever I go to conventions, which is cosplayers don't care, generally don't care the main theme of a con convention. They'll just wear their cosplay, right? Yeah.
00:38:53
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And what I try to say, what I mean by this is like, oh, yeah, you're going to an anime convention. Well, let me dress up as these video game characters or or Marvel characters, you know, because it's adjacent. It's close enough that nobody really cares. Right.
00:39:10
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And I was thinking about the celebration and how funny it would be that like cosplayers still filed that rule. Like I'm going to still come in here as not a Nintendo character, but maybe a Sony or Xbox character and come in and just be like, yeah, they might still do that, to be honest with you.
00:39:29
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Yeah, like that's the thing. That's just my what I've noticed in all the years of going to cons is just people will still just it's close enough. No one like it's just like I'll still dress up. I'll bring my OC character and dress up and go to this reminds me of now I'm going to really show my age and I don't think either of you would.
00:39:48
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We did this when you were kids, but there was like a Nintendo World thing that would like go around America where you would play games and shit. It was like a pre-convention convention kind of thing. Well, honestly, no, I don't. I don't recall something like that. I recall the mythological gaming vans that would drive up and just show up outside and you could go there. No, no. If you remember this from the the seminal movie, The Wizard.
00:40:18
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Oh, listeners were old. I'm so sorry. No, we're not these young 20 somethings. No, we play based RPGs, although apparently the 20 somethings do too. Trying to find what it was called, but they would it was essentially this was it fed into the Nintendo World Championships. Oh,
00:40:50
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I just remember they did like mall stuff. I think they would be in malls. I watched a whole. I remember my brother and I went and I watched him play. What's the incredibly hard racing game that was on the NES? All of them. Yeah, Rad Racer. Oh, sure, sure. Yeah, I remember he he fucking flamed out on.
00:41:15
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But anyway, yeah, it was a whole thing. Yeah. 29. So yeah, the Nintendo world championships in 29 cities across the United States. Yeah. One of those cities was close enough that we went to it. Yeah. Anyway, I think I'd be able to make this one. Do it. So yeah. Be our man on the street, Charles. Yeah. I guarantee one person's going to be Sonic. Yeah.
00:41:39
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10,000%. Oh God, you know what? I might be that person. Do it.
00:41:49
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Well, there's etiquette, right? No, there's no etiquette. No, that's it. I also expect some not safe for workplace to get kicked out. But yep. Here's. Well, you know what? Listen, you can live your dreams and you can hope for the best of people doing it. But you know what? Sometimes you just got to hand it in. Oh, just like Valve did. Oh, what did they do? They said, you know what? Fuck it. You can play Half-Life, Alex, without VR.
00:42:14
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Oh, you know, that game that we we we basically half-life 2.9.
00:42:22
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because we won't make three. Um, we put it out and it's only in VR. So you have to play VR and they're like, fine, just play it without VR. We're sorry. So James, could you explain this a little bit more on being valve doing this? Cause right now I see that it's a mod, but like, is it, is it the valve team that's doing this? Um, it has official support. Oh.
00:42:47
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Oh, basically, they worked with the team and valve to to make it. So, yeah, but more or less, I mean, it's it's not official. It's not official, but it's official with quotation marks. So have you played it? Because, you know, next, don't you? Don't have an index. Oh, the fuck. I'm not a blow $800 on VR. The fuck is wrong with you? You wouldn't.
00:43:13
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Yeah, I know. I'll be honest. I'm surprised by that. Yeah, I'm surprised. I blew three hundred fifty dollars on on VR on a quest to and I use it just enough. Did you do VR chat? I did try it once. What was your avatar? Oh, there are my need to get on VR chat. I don't know. It was probably plain. I didn't do it. I didn't spend any time on it. Ma'am.
00:43:38
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I wanted to know what saucy business you got. But yes, if you were waiting to play Half-Life Alex and didn't want to spend money on a VR headset, now's your time. Go for it. Well, I heard it's good. Alex is the girl, right? And speaking of giving up on your dreams, dreams is over.
00:44:00
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Why? Why media molecule? The creator of dreams has said that they will be ending long-term live service support for dreams. Uh, and a statement posted today, uh, update on live support as we continue to evaluate, involve our priorities for the studio and dreams. We've made the difficult decision to discontinue live support for dreams after.
00:44:24
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the first of September, 2023 to shift our focus to an exciting new project. You'll be, you'll continue to be able to play create and share dreams with others after September, but we won't really seeing any more updates to the game or events such as dreams, calm all house dreams or the MP awards.
00:44:41
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We're incredibly proud of the work we've done developing dreams, such as our content releases, creative updates, and live events. And we are endlessly grateful to the community for their belief and continuous contributions of weird sonic memes. My editorial since launch. I never had a plane dreams, but it looked really powerful. That's it is. It's incredibly powerful. I mean, you just really have to go watch.
00:45:06
Speaker
streamers play all the weird fucking dreams thing. I don't know. Here's the thing. Like, did you guys ever play a little big planet either, which has been a molecules other big game? Yep. Oh, you did. How did you like a little big planet? It was fun. I could never, I don't know. Like I'm a big proponent of the mod scene, but I also feel like dreams and little big planet content
00:45:32
Speaker
always existed in kind of its own world of jank, right? Where it's like they're limited and they make jokes out of that limitation. So you never get like a really good experience. You get a good enough experience. That's funny. You know what I mean?
00:45:50
Speaker
I guess when I played it, I only played the first one like when it came out of Little Big Planet. And I just loved the ones that would like like theme themselves off of other games. And then I think there was a like a while where they would just take down anything that was themed after something. But it was it was just fun and creative. And I guess it was jank, but it felt like we were all playing together. Like you're all playing with the same rules.
00:46:16
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So it was never frustrating. I just found it as like creative the way people used it. I loved it. I thought it was great. I don't know how jank dreams was, but dreams looked like it was very jank. Oh, was it? I mean, I never played dreams, but from the videos I've seen of people playing it, it didn't look like jank.
00:46:36
Speaker
That's it. It seemed like it like it looked and played very well. No, no, no. Here's the thing. But it might be a controller. No, no, no, no, no. You're misunderstanding my term. Like it does. Stop using it such an umbrella way, James. Come on. No, you're correct. No. The cream that rose the top of dreams was never like.
00:47:00
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the kind of things that were like great experiences. They were weird fucking experiences and memes. You know what I mean? Which is that's not dreams fault, per se, as much as the community that uses dreams fault. But I don't necessarily know how you fix that either. Yeah, I don't know. I mean.
00:47:24
Speaker
I feel like we might have been exposed to different things. That's true, too. The stuff I saw where people made these incredible first-person levels or recreations of movies or everything, all these things that I'm just like, that's incredible that they did us off a game, like this creation system or whatever.
00:47:44
Speaker
Like I didn't like I barely saw memes off of it. Oh, see, that's that's that's all I ever saw from people when they talked about dreams. Look at this fucking weird ass shit that people have made in dreams. Like I never got to see like I never played it, which again, right. That's my experience of it is other people bringing dreams to me. And whenever I saw that, it was always like weird ass shit. But again, that's the algorithm, right? Weird stuff is fun.
00:48:13
Speaker
Yeah, yeah gets the eye gets the eyeballs. Yeah, but I think it's it's one of those things where dreams is incredibly powerful. It is especially from all the stuff people have been able to create off of it. It's just a shame that there's not a good monetary system there like because I feel like the best thing that dreams could have done was if they were if they actually sold themselves as a
00:48:52
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You have to be able to get a lot of people into dreams and having a $60 price tag or whatever much was was always kind of a challenge, right? Yeah, I like I feel like whatever media molecules next game should be should just be based off of the dreams engine stuff and just be like, we're making all of our games through dreams now. I feel like from all the creations I've seen people make, it seems diverse enough to fit a lot of games and look really good like.
00:49:04
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game creation kit
00:49:22
Speaker
You know, whichever. Yeah. Well, it's an exciting new project. I'm excited for them. They do good stuff. Well, we have 10 minutes left, boys. So let's go through some fast news. Fast, fast, fast. RE4 is selling microtransactions for cheat codes.
00:49:44
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Yeah, this one actually might be less fast just because I think I do have two opinions on this one. I don't fucking care. I'm gonna be honest with you.
00:49:55
Speaker
I bought one. That's right. That's right. I have money and I spend it and I'm trying to finish this game before fucking Jedi survivor comes out. So is that the reason that you're a busy adult and you need? Yeah. And I have and I have to spend the whole money. Yeah. But here's the thing. It's not cheating because I can still get the achievements of all the things. It's not by by spending money. It's no longer a cheat code. Yeah, we've talked about that before yesterday, too, which is just that
00:50:26
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Like the argument has always been like, people that don't have time, these pay to win microtransactions are the way to go to monetize those people and still have them play the game.
00:50:40
Speaker
Uh, I'm of the camp of fuck that. No, uh, either no microtransactions. Um, and you just have normal cheats that allow people to skip or modify their experience, much like difficulty or settings on the fly in video games. Um, which they, it does have, it has difficulty settings. You could play on an easier difficulty. Right. Uh, and basically that's it. That's all my stance is don't have microtransactions to make things easier for players.
00:51:09
Speaker
My sticky point of this is that they did it two weeks after launch, which means that it didn't get involved in the review cycle, which is scummy. And I think this is not the first. I don't know if this is the first time Capcom's done it, but it's not the first time a video game has done it where they've introduced their microtransactions after the reviews review cycle has been completed, which is becoming almost a thing now, which I don't like.
00:51:33
Speaker
Right. I agree. And I think the company that did that last time, a lot of the reviewers ended up putting addendums to their view just to be like, this review was done before X thing happened and does not reflect that or something like that in some of their reviews.
00:51:51
Speaker
I mean, here's the thing, right? You don't have to buy the stick. You don't have to buy these upgrade tickets. Basically, it allows you to get a specific upgrade to your gun. You could get it in the game by just spending money. You don't need these tickets to do that. Or what you can do also is you can sell the tickets for a lot of money, which then allows you to apply a lot of upgrades to your guns and get the game through faster.
00:52:17
Speaker
Again, it's just it's a speed up mechanic. That's all it is. It doesn't do anything else. It does not lock you out of any content that you couldn't otherwise get in the game. But I am fine. Go ahead. The game isn't balanced to incentivize it either, right? I mean, but it's a Resident Evil game to a certain extent, right? It's supposed to be hard. Oh, why did you just put it on easy? Because I don't want to put it on easy.
00:52:45
Speaker
Also, I bought it. Also, I bought it on a gray site. So, hey, you know what? I gave him 10 more dollars and it worked out to be even. But so I would say if this is how they're in new microtransactions, it's fine. I would just prefer they be more upfront about it.
00:53:05
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Yeah, because it definitely would have been mentioned in every single review at launch. Yeah, it would have because it's like, oh, hey, remember this classic? Well, this is how they change it. This is having a modernized blah, blah, blah. Think pieces everywhere. I think it's something we have to keep track of going forward of how long after reviews do microtransactions start showing up. And hey, I'm in charge now so we could talk about Diablo again.
00:53:34
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Diablo, the next season of Diablo III, Season 29, will be the last season involving new content for Diablo. If you didn't know, Diablo III has online seasons where you make seasonal characters, and in those seasons, they usually have some weird modifier, either like, oh, you get this extra ability, or they've changed this thing in the game, and you level up characters in that season.
00:54:03
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Um, they usually last three to four months. Um, but it's just interesting now that after almost 30 seasons, so the 29th, they will be ending it and preparing for the launch of Diablo four. It'll be the last for new content. Um, Diablo three seasons were always a lot of fun. I always, I didn't pop in for every season, but I would say I popped in a lot of seasons because it was like,
00:54:27
Speaker
It's like, hey, we doubled the amount of treasure goblins that spawn. So it's like you're just fucking popping treasure goblins constantly. Or it's like, hey, you know, it's all of a sudden now, if you do this, you get this incredible power and just destroy everything like the they always made the game feel new or something like that or added like interesting twists. So.
00:54:49
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It what it's one of the things that gives me hope about Diablo 4 so okay. Yep Yeah, and you didn't play any of the demo or the beta right? Nope. I remain pure
00:55:01
Speaker
Yeah. This is from the other side. I played seasons and I thought they were boring for Diablo 3 because I don't think it changed enough. Did you play the early ones and gave up? Yeah. I think the way Path of Exile did seasons
00:55:21
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was definitely a much more interesting way. Just because with Path of Exile, when they did a season, it was basically creating a new game mechanic. And then when the season was over, that mechanic stayed. So it's just new systems piled on top of new systems. So eventually, the game is very deep. And you can ignore it or just jump into it still and just replay it.
00:55:47
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Diablo three eventually got to that new systems things, but it doesn't keep season to season. So that is I guess a difference. I would say around season like 12 or 15 Charles, that's when they started to get into like their, their real, um, their, their, their, uh, which I'm gonna call it their groove. So, but cause I, I definitely agree with you. They were boring in the beginning. Um,
00:56:12
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Jason state and is leaving Xbox. Uh, do you know who he is? He was one of the heads of hail. He was the head of creative and hail. And if it ended the cinematic director director on the first three halo games, uh, Hey, guess what? He'll, if it's not doing well, he'll, if halo hasn't done well at Microsoft sense reach. Oh, and reach was the last fungy one, right? Correct. So Jason state is leaving. He did not say where he's heading next, nor the reason he's leaving, but again,
00:56:41
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As we talk about Halo's weird existence in Microsoft, this is also not a great thing. Hey, back to Charles's question a few podcasts ago, who should Halo be given to to remake? Do we just I don't know, but guess what? You'll be able to play Tekken 8 cross play.
00:57:04
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I should get it, I think. Yeah, okay. That would be interesting. Katsuhiro Harada, the lead director of Tekken 8 has said that cross play will be enabled at launch for Tekken 8, which is good because you know what? All fucking whatchamacallit fighting game should have cross play.
00:57:27
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Yeah, there now. Yeah, I didn't realize they didn't until that announcement. Yeah. Oh, it's still a thing. It's something. Also, he confirmed that it will have rollback netcode, which is the best that code for fighting games currently available. Also, last week, God of War Ragnarok's new game plus mode has launched new levels, new new armor, new level cap, new enchantments. And you get to play as Kratos with that cool cloak he had in the opening cinematic. Oh, never played it.
00:57:57
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Yep. Do you want to kill Chaos and not play on the Epic Game Store? You can! Stranger Paradise Fall Fantasy Origin is out on Steam now. That's right, it wasn't available on Steam until last week. Wow. Yeah. I hope more people play it. Not that I know how its sales did, but I just... See, that was the risk-taking fun of Square.
00:58:21
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I say was, I don't know if it's going away with that new guy, but the old guy also attached NFTs to their figurines. So screw them. They did. And then two pieces of more square knees. One. In an interview, Yoshi P says that
00:58:42
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The structure of Final Fantasy 16 will be comparable to earlier titles, such as 10 and 12, the best game. That's right, fight me nerds. We have what's called a world map. And on that world map, you have areas that you can travel to and select that area. And then you jump to that area seamlessly. Then you follow the main quest there. And then once you finish that, you go back to the hub area called the hideaway. Again, showing his MMO roots in that too.
00:59:06
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Oh, interesting. So no big open world. Yeah. Each place that you unlock then becomes available to visit at any time. And if so, you decide, okay, I want to try something else. I'm done with the main scenario for now. You go back to places you visited before and expose, explore those places and some of those places, there'll be new side quests you can start and you can go off and do things like that. You can explore, you can do the hunts, you can find items, you can do the quests. Oh my God. A not big open world.
00:59:34
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And Andy, we will find out probably a lot more about that this Thursday because announced earlier today, there will be a 20 minute state of play with a deep dive on Final Fantasy 16. Oh, I don't know if I want to watch it. Spoilers.
00:59:50
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Yeah, so I agree with that feeling of like, I think it's getting close enough that there might be spoilers. However, I saw a comment. People talked about where I think I saw the same one, Charles. Yeah, of that. This team specifically has also been pretty good at creating trailers for stuff like this and make them intentionally misleading that they aren't.
01:00:12
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necessarily part of the story that you see. I would say, though, not even in terms of sport or story, just gameplay, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, if you don't want to see gameplay trailers, then yes, outright, then you probably don't want to see. Yes. Like they've already released a gameplay trailer like last week, too. Oh, I haven't seen it. Yeah.
01:00:33
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I watched one that got me a little bit hyped for it. The one where like the blood sprays over the kid. I'm like, OK, whatever. But there was one after this is going to be a grim dark file. This is it. This isn't your mom's final fantasy earlier. It's like, OK, square. OK, but we're going to kill. Yeah, I am.
01:00:57
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Like chaos knew it was a joke. So Andy, the sad part is that blood spray on the kid is in all of the trailers. There's been like, I'm talking about the reveal one. Sorry. Oh, the initial reveal. Yeah. The initial reveal where the blood sprays. It just, just like James said, this isn't your mom's final fantasy.
01:01:17
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All right. I'll have to say, though, Andy, the third trailer when there's like the chorus singing and they sing all the the song, all the songs and like it does like a crosscut of all the different people turning into their summon forms. It's so fucking cool. Oh, I'm sure. But I watched a little bit of something else and it convinced me. It got me over like the edgelord feel of the first one. So I'm signed up for it.
01:01:46
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bring me in. But I might avoid this one because I do want to keep it a little bit fun. Yeah, I don't blame you. I'm going to take a risk on this one just because I do trust Creative Business Unit 3. June 22nd is when Final Fantasy comes out. So we are a scant two and a half months.
01:02:12
Speaker
I got a lot of games to play for them. Oh, no. Yeah, I've got me. I have your I have Redfall, Tears of the Kingdom, Jedi Survivor, Diablo four. And I'm sure. And I think two more that I'm forgetting to be able to. Oh, I'm going to try, baby. I think I think James can do. James has been known to hardline and get through a lot of games.
01:02:39
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That's true. You know, my backlog that I'm looking at before this game comes out is type zero. I think I'll play as Dust Falls. I think I'll also play as the stretch rate, Charles. Dredge Dredge, you can knock out in two days. Yeah. Dredge is easy. So like basically a lot of my games are not games released this year.
01:03:06
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It's all dredges. Yeah. So I say a lot of my games. Oh, I. Quick, quick review. I played dredge dredge is fantastic. Play dredge. Yep, yep. Mm hmm. I stopped playing Resident Evil 4 to play dredge for two days. Oh, whoa. And then because of that, I spent 10 dollars so I could speed up. They got you. And did, you know, I won't spoil anything.
01:03:37
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All right. Well, we'll spoil other things on another episode of Add to Party, a friendship simulator masquerading as a new show. I've been your once present and future host, James Hartwell, and I've been joined by. You serve her to the throne, Charles Yarmatt, and I've been joined by. Loya or Andy.
01:04:05
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I'm not a servant, what am I? I'm just- Goes with the flow. I just go with the flow, but I'm trying to remain like within the- Neutral, the theme. Switzerland, Andy Switzerland. Okay. I'm just hanging out, you guys. Okay. Well, I know where to put my Nazi gold. I don't.
01:04:28
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I'm just remaining neutral. That's all I'm saying. Uh-huh. Didn't I just join NATO? Who just joined NATO? Finland. Finland. Nice try, though. Have a good night. Have a good night. Good night. Bye.