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Speaker: Oh man, right in the middle of the hill.
Speaker: Hey, Charlie, man. What's up? How you doing? Not much, except for the fact that you're not here at work where you're supposed to be. The show's about to start. Dude, are you seriously taking bongriffs right now when I'm trying to talk to you?
Speaker: Bongriffs? Yeah, man. Of course, it's Wednesday. Sit around, play video games, and smoke weed all day, man. Why are you busting my balls? Wednesday? Nah, dude. It's fucking Thursday. Fucking stoners. Look, get your ass in here before Glick goes fucking full Bigfoot around here, okay? Really? He's worried about me being late but when tardiness is defined by this network's punctuality?
Speaker: Dude, just get your ass here. Alright, alright, alright. Let Grizzly Adams know I'm on my way. I'm gonna take this last rip though while you roll that intro.
Speaker: All right, hey, welcome to trial number two on whose argument is it anyway. Speaking of Grizzly a Adams, we are joined tonight by Glick. But before we start rolling in with all that, I wanna thank everybody for being here tonight. Sorry about last week.
Speaker: Some weather and internet problems, shit goes on. um But tonight we're gonna go a little different route. We're going to just make it one sort of big topic with a little bit of sub -topics. Tonight's mostly gonna be talking about Batman. We're gonna open up the floor to who is the better Batman, Christian Bell or Michael Keaton. So there's gonna be some nostalgia.
Speaker: discussions and we'll go into maybe throw in some Ben Affleck or maybe some Robert Patterson. But before we get there, I do want to go ahead and briefly go through the weekly lineup starting on Mondays. We have Men Caring for Men hosted by Connor, even though he's on a sabbatical right now. Glick's taking care of that. And then Tuesday night you have Glick's House of Music now.
Speaker: bring in the fresh and you know what I'm trying to find the bio ticker on the banners but everything gets moved around because I'm not used to this shit but Tuesday nights again is uh Glick's house some music and then there it is I got you I mean, Wednesday nights, what the fuck news ah where they bring some weird news to make your jaw hit the ground sometimes, sometimes not, especially when they have me up there talking about ramen noodles in your pants. Then Thursdays is tonight.
Speaker: whose line is it anyway, where I'll bring a couple guests up, we'll have discussions, or they'll have discussions, debates on various topics. Some nights, I might just throw up a movie night, call it the nonsense and chill, and we'll critique movies. Who knows? Anything is open. Oh, right. So, Biolinks is down in the ticker.
Speaker: and let's get on with our guests. You forgot about the most important night of the week and then the not so important night of the week. Man, i am I am in such a hurry to get on with this. it' minute i I stopped on Thursday. Well, I mean, what's more important than Thursday nights? DJ usually but brought in Saturday. So I mean, just saying. and ah Oh.
Speaker: uh friday nights right now is sort of like a ah flashback fridays or whatever glick has in store he wants to throw up it's kind of an open night so far saturday's flagship nonsensical nonsense where um Six hours straight man. We just get rude and crude with each other and talk about various issues Topics and just bust each other's chops or as some people like to say bust balls Sunday's about Sunday nights is Jeff's garage where it's just If it if it fits in your garage, it's worth talking about and that's ah hosted co -hosted with Benji and
Speaker: Alright. Now that I got that out of there. and I don't blame you for forgetting one of them but that's because it's the newest one on the network. The part time show if you will. Oh, the part time show, which I don't even know what nights it was that officially on Fridays or Sunday. Uh, we don't have an official day yet. We were going to shoot for Fridays, but, uh, as we were talking before the show, that might change it in. said and but just got to squeeze it in when we can squeeze it in, but that's cash. You wrestling fans out there. We'll be alive sometime this weekend or next week, recap and, uh, summer slam.
Speaker: Yes. Father, son, squatch, time bonding. It's watchable bonding, watchable. um It's watchable and squash. Well, yes, absolutely. So let me rearrange this screen. Get us all up there. The rail one is up all day. There we go. what down here All right. First, I'm going to go ahead and introduce DJ Bill from another shot podcast.
Speaker: Go ahead and introduce yourself, my dude. What is going on? I am one half of another shot podcast. um Right now we're in the beginning stages of ourselves. Our podcast is bar themed. We are literally just two friends that sit down at the bar and talk about everything yesterday, today, tomorrow, because the best conversations are always over a beer and a shot. There you go. Hell yeah. God, I wish I would have Grab a shot glass and some whiskey tonight. Oh, I got you covered. What, uh, what are you sipping on? Proper number 12. I go all Irish. Irish whiskey. What, uh, so you had mentioned that you guys do a, you're one half of podcast. Y 'all sit at the bar together or y 'all separate bars on the internet.
Speaker: we sit We sit at the bar together and just kind of, I normally don't get this type of background, but seeing as I only want to meet right now, I was able to kind of give everybody the idea of what we're shooting for.
Speaker: So you know we we always do we usually do Wednesdays and Sundays. We went on sabbatical last Sunday. It just took a little bit of time to sit back, chill, relax, you know gather our thoughts. But we always leave it open forum when we go and do our lives. That way, that allows everybody to come on in and talk what ah about whatever, honestly. So I mean, it's very open -ended.
Speaker: You said Sundays and Wednesdays, what time? Usually, that's the fun part. We haven't locked in. We're either theres seven or eight, but we have been known to do insomniac. So there's been times we've started at nine or 10. Oh, I like that. I like I like light. ah I like late casts. Wow. I am twisted in my tongue to tonight. I can't even talk. arms are It was our heart. It was. It absolutely was. it It was a lot of today was driving around. Anyway. Hey man. Thanks for being us with us tonight DJ Bill. You prefer DJ Bill or?
Speaker: Let's run it. DJ Bill works. Or did I get that wrong? Cause I'm such a pod end right now. No, you're good. ja do ej We thought about that. e j did And again, my, my email that I created when I was 23 years old also says man star. So I've been known to be called man star.
Speaker: You literally misspell a word. And you get stuck with it for life, apparently. Fair enough. Yes. And and then we have Glick tonight. You all you all know Glick, the Bigfoot in the house, the nonsensical network Squatch Father, I guess you can call him. Squatch Father. You come to me at my daughter's wedding.
Speaker: And it has for a favor. How was your day, man? Oh, it was another day. I got me a little nappy poo in now. Yeah, I've discovered in my old age that a lot of times if I come home from work and sit down in the recliner and I don't start playing Call of Duty right away and I kick that recliner up, I usually take me like a little quick nappy poo, a little hour nappy poo. I can't get more in 20 minutes, twenty more than 20 minutes and I'm ruined the rest of the day.
Speaker: Well, also nobody's home either. So I was able to, the kids are at their moms. Nicky had to work. So it was like, got me a little nappy in afterward. Got me a little snack.
Speaker: Woke up late and I was like, Oh shit. Obviously I can feed the beard. Do what? You get to feed the beard obviously. Never, never forget to feed the beard. I can smell that thing from here.
Speaker: and probably smells pretty good like cedar and uh cherry is what I put in there oh yeah sme there's uh I do yeah you have if you're gonna have a beard you have to take care of it makes it less itchy on your face I
Speaker: Yeah, I use I have I have beard lotion that you put in it goes on that goes into the skin. So your skin doesn't get all dry and itchy. And then I've got oils that I put in my beard. So it makes it look at all silky and nice. And then ill try I got a beard straightener. It's trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out how we can segue from beards to Batman, but I i just can't think of one. How much cooler would Batman be if he had a beard?
Speaker: I don't know. let's ah Let's discuss that. You know what I should, you know what I need to do? I need to go get me one of those Batman cows and I'll wear it on the show and be like, now this is a cool Batman. Not one person would recognize you. Nobody would be like, Clark Kent, who's Superman? I hold on. I'm a Sasquatch. Nope. I'm just your friendly neighborhood click. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see.
Speaker: so um identity and i love superman uh superman's pretty cool but we're but tonight's batman we can definitely do another superman night um the less cooler of the guys in justice league who's superman i don't know about actual superpowers but oh but dude batman has a contingency for everybody in the justice league to take him down but we can talk about world's greatest detective world's greatest detective. There's been so many people who have played Batman over the years, from Adam West, to Christian Bell, to Robert Patterson, to Ben fucking Affleck. I'm sorry, but if you like Ben Affleck as a Batman, i you and I will have some words. But first I'd like to focus on two of my favorites, Christian Bell and Michael Keaton.
Speaker: oh If we want to go into George Clooney and and and the other one that sucked really bad, I guess we could, but... Val Kilmer. Yeah, that's the one. Val killed it on Batman again. what Who was worse, Val Kilmer? Yeah, yeah, Clooney or Kilmer?
Speaker: kill all day Really? Yes. Yeah, I was gonna say Homer was always so cool though and It was like man, Val Kilmer is gonna be Batman. That ought to be awesome wa ah Well bear in mind that particular movie they were supposed to use Patrick Stewart as mr. Freeze and there was a scheduling conflict so they ended up going with Arnold Schwarzenegger that whole entire new He would have been a much better He fit the comic book so much more. He even looked like the guy from the cartoon. So yeah that movie was dead in the water, especially since it didn't have Tim Burton behind it. Hmm. Glick, what do you think? I'm trying to remember the damn Val Kilmer Batman. Is that horrible?
Speaker: and jim burke I Tim Burton stopped after this. He stopped after returns. He did the third one. He did he did do the third one. i think well he I don't think he directed that one. I think he helped produce it. So he did have like a small part in it. He definitely did um Batman, Batman Returns. But i mean it all went to hell in a hand basket once they went to, what was it, Batman and Robin?
Speaker: That's it. But then again, that's my opinion. Yeah. I don't like Chris O 'Donnell is ah Robin. Sorry. Not Batman. Robin.
Speaker: I did. I can honestly say I thought he was good, but they, he did not represent the character is. I would like to see, um, Joseph Gordon love it. Get his own spinoff. Yeah.
Speaker: you know, at the end, at the end of the, you know, the dark night rises. If you remember, um, they kind of alluded to the fact that they were going to give him his own little spin off and they've never gone through with it. I think he'd have been the the perfect part. Yeah. But Chris O 'Donnell, there's been very, I mean, there's been a handful of things I've liked with him, but for the most part, I mean, I'm not even a big fan of Chris O 'Donnell as an actor, honestly.
Speaker: Oh, Chris O 'Donnell do to you. Show us on the doll where Chris O 'Donnell touched you she um you. I don't have enough alcohol to go into that whole debate. ah I'm still trying to get the taste out of my mouth. I don't i don't particularly like Chris O 'Donnell. He's like one of the nicest guys, at at least he looks like one of the nicest guys in Hollywood.
Speaker: you but I obviously can't remember anything else he's played in. I he's not vertical limit was another one. Yeah, he was in he was in center of a woman. OK. Alongside Al Pacino, but everybody knows that Al Pacino carried that movie. um but When you start talking about movies, I'm i'm an absolute geek. I could talk about this shit for days. Chris O 'Donnell just isn't a rememberable actor for me, I guess.
Speaker: He's also nothing he ever did was really
Speaker: One of his longest standing roles has been in, uh, uh, what is it? and NCI, uh, NCIS Los Angeles or whatever. Oh, I see. Yeah. oh Yeah. I'm like, uh, I got to get caught up in that feeling. I watch more movies than I do television. So for me. Yeah. He's been on that show for us. Should I think that, I think that show is going on 15, 16 years old. Him and LL Cool J. think I think LL Cool J.
Speaker: LL Cool J is one of those rare phenomenas where he can go from one industry into another and succeed and do well in both.
Speaker: again yeah I don't know. I i got i don't i could go down an LL Cool J tangent on someone's horrible movies, which is almost all of them, I think. But we're not here for that. We're not here for LL Cool J.
Speaker: then honest knocked more crystalto donald or Chris O 'Donnell, but Michael Keaton and Christian Bale. That's that's the meat of the subject I like to taste. For for me, it's for me, it's Keaton all day. And you're not going to get a debate on that one, I think. michael keaton not only could he be serious, but he could also, he brought fun to the role. He really did. michael Like, i mean his his comedic he but I mean, look at the movies he's done before that. When you when you play Batman, you're essentially playing two characters.
Speaker: Michael Keaton was great as not only Batman, but Bruce Wayne. Christian Bale was terrible as Bruce Wayne. And in my opinion, uh, mediocre as a Batman and Christopher Nolan and that entire franchise can go to hell. o No, a good thing that came out of that franchise was Tom Hardy playing Bane. I thought Tom Hardy was a good Bane, even though he was small.
Speaker: But Christian Bale was terrible as Batman. And I like Christian Bale. I like him in other movies. He was just terrible as Batman. The Joker, I'm sorry, overrated, overhyped. Was Heath Ledger a good Joker? Yeah. But so overrated and so overhyped. And he would have been forgotten as Joker had he not died.
Speaker: Ooh, ouch. I have to disagree with that because... Go ahead. No, no. Y 'all's conversation, I'm just here to moderate. But I was gonna say that I think you have a point. I think his death did bring his character into more fame than simply just being on the screen.
Speaker: But go ahead. It's hard to debate that because look at look at when Brandon Lee died. I mean, that took I don't think the Crow would have been as good as it was had Brandon. And I hate to say it this way. Had he not died, that movie went like, I mean, huge. And it it was one of those movies for me that the more I watched it, the better it got. That being said, though, you know,
Speaker: I still think Heath Ledger would have been, you know, his his ah his role as the Joker was iconic, I think. And the thing about it is, him and Jack Nicholson each brought a different portrayal, just like even Jared Leto. I've yet to see, until Joaquin Phoenix comes along, a bad Joker. I don't think Joaquin Phoenix is a bad Joker. I think it's just so far the left and different from what the average viewer um of us because it's not technically a comic book movie per se, but it's a different origin story of the Joker. And if you're just a casual viewer or even a casual comic book reader, you're you're you're more susceptible to kind of shit on these different variations of Joker. Because if you read the comics Joker has is one of the one of the very few might be the only one that I can think of right off the top of my head that does not have a true origin story.
Speaker: you No matter how many variations of Batman you get, it's the same thing. Paris died in an alley in a robbery. he was ah Alfred raised him. He became Batman. He became the Dark Knight. He became vengeance, whatever you want to call him. There's no Superman Krypton exploded. His parents put him in a spade. No matter what the variations or variants or what you're reading, that's that's the story. That's the background. There's no definitive background origin story for of the Joker. And I think that's the one cool thing about all these different movies is that these directors haven't just based their joker off of Jack Nicholas. We've gotten to see different versions of every joker. Even he's ledger, like I said, I like he ledgers role. I just don't think he's, I don't, I wouldn't even put him as top three joker. um You touched on it right there though, by saying, and and and on a side note, I think that's what makes the joker character that,
Speaker: much better is the fact that we don't know a backstory. There's always going to be that mystique. Where the hell did this guy come from? All we know is he you know escaped from Arkham and you know he's this deranged brilliant psychopath.
Speaker: But like you said, there you know even in the comic books, whether it be um Batman, actually Batman and Joker, the only two that I can think of in that, you know, in the that universe, the Gotham universe that changed over the years has been so many different variations. Now, you had Caesar Romero play him back during the show. And he was literally the clown. yeah And it was awesome. I mean, that show was iconic.
Speaker: Then you have Michael Keaton. We're going to say it again, the best Batman Tim Burton did that. He did justice to that, that whole story. And yeah, say what you want to say about Tim Burton, whether you like him or not. Tim Burton is one of those guys you, you, you, you either love him or hate him. There's really not an in -between. There's really not an in -between with him. He did a fantastic job to bring into life a comic, a legendary comic book character.
Speaker: in a time when it wasn't really being done. But when you think about it, so but good superhero movies that came out in the 90s, you had the Christopher Reeves Superman movies that came out in what the late 70s, early 80s. Yes. But outside of that, there was no real good superhero movies that were coming out around that time frame
Speaker: I can't think of anything that. The Batman show was about it. I mean, I think the Flash had something small happen in the early 80s. There was a couple of standalones out the Hulk. You know, Lou Ferrigno is the Hulk. Yeah. You know, and that was before CGI. That was what was really cool. They just had a really big dude that really could not talk very well. He just he he looked like the Hulk without the makeup, honestly.
Speaker: Yeah. and So going back to the Joker, though, you know, you have Caesar Romero, who is the clown. You have Jack Nicholson, who was the gangster Joker. You have Heath Ledger, who was the anarchist. You know, he he wasn't exactly psychotic. He was an anarchist. Yeah. Then you have Jared Leto come in and he is the psychopath.
Speaker: gk So I mean, I think it's he was he was he he kind of combined I think he combined the Nicholas he was like a choppo gangster as compared to like a mafia gang yeah Yeah, he like he like combined like Nicholas Nicholas's gangster Ledger psychopath. So you had that psychotic But brilliant I love Leto as Joker. I want to stand alone, Margot Robbie and Leto movie. I wanted to do a Harley movie with with Leto and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's... think style yeah like yeah kind yeah there's not There's not another woman I ever want to see play har Harley Quinn ever in my life other than Margot Robbie. She absolutely killed it.
Speaker: up until barbie i'd get to see anything that woman do that was bad but would read now barby barbie was an absolute fucking stinker oh my god i have to admit i've seen barbie that's a good idea that we can discuss barbie one time no let's not i i think i'm gonna have a colonoscopy that day that will um i'll be busy that That's the bar and Barbie s for sure but I think I think I think it's safe to say I mean anybody of our age group or our age range Keaton is our Batman, you know Yes, I don't think you're gonna get too many arguments and I think I think most people are gonna agree that Keaton is better than than bail Agreed 100 % agreed now and the one thing I do disagree I did like Christian Bale You know as Batman
Speaker: I really did. He was able, he could do the action stuff better. He was a little more, you know, he brought more physicality to that role, but he could do it. And anybody that knows anything about Christian Bale, he is such a method actor that he literally went from one movie, the machinist, where he lost what? 60, 70 pounds was really nothing. It was scary, disgusting. How thin he was and then put on what was it? 40 pounds of muscle and immediately jumped into that role.
Speaker: So it was definitely. It was definitely i mean at least at least now, but I do agree. He's he's he's suck as um Bruce Wayne. But then again, you know, you'd already touched on Robert Pattinson. I mean, I was going to bring him back. You really had an emo Batman Batman for the first time. He was emo. ah'll get like he All he did was pout.
Speaker: and moan the whole time. Like he just brooded the whole time. he ah It was almost like watching Edward from the Twilight movies, trying to pretend like he's Batman. I'm not you know what, I'm gonna have to say i'm I'm gonna have to depart from that. I actually enjoyed Robert robert Patterson. past I was gonna say what we will we get to that. I'll put my opinion in. Um, I think I think also man, I just
Speaker: I was not a fan of that Dark Knight trilogy at all. I mean, I guess Scarecrow was cool the guy from Pinky Blinded. No, I did like him. I thought he was killer. That character, I think, in every frame of Batman depiction he's been in except for maybe the cartoons and maybe the video games. He's been underrated on the screen. There's so much more that character can bring that I think I think they did. I think he they did that scarecrow because his guy was the guy who played scarecrow. I forgot his name. You brought it up.
Speaker: It was great. Thank you. It was great at that role. I just wish, I just wish he had, it was a more prominent villain. I wish they would give Scarecrow some more, some more stage time. No, I agree. Benj, I agree with you. I think Batman, as far as comic book goes and superheroes go, I think Batman had some of the coolest villains. I think, I know for me, growing up reading the comics,
Speaker: I had, I liked the villains more than I liked the superhero. Not necessarily that I wanted the villains to win or anything, but I thought that Batman had some of the coolest villains out there. And I don't know if it was mainly because he was a guy who didn't have superpowers and Gotham was just so rampant with bad guys that you, they were able to just run with it and come on. They also had some weird ass villains like Condiment Man and poker dot man and Yeah, but I mean I mean good for the DC even Marvel had some of those they had Which one had squirrel girl or whatever, you know the squirrel, you know, she could conjure squirrels I hope I mean come on so they they they went I think they overstretched Which since we're talking about comic books just to get it out of the way real quick And you did say Wade Wilson earlier. I did go Monday night with my kid to go see Deadpool and Wolverine and
Speaker: Oh, yeah, and i can oh I can honestly say that was the best one yet. That was really worth the wait. I'm glad that they didn't build it up like they normally do with movies and show like the best you know scenes just to get your attention. They they kept it quiet the whole time and I fucking phenomenal movie. It was hilarious. Me and my kid laughed like idiots the whole time.
Speaker: Oh, so I'll do the penis jokes and shit and that in the into windows But next week I'm going to spoil it now next week you were gonna discuss Deadpool and there will be spoilers It's already been out for a couple of weeks if you haven't watched it yet Go see it. oh Go see it. It's worth it. It is worth it. I disagree with it being the best but I do agree it's definitely worth the hype. It is a toss up between the first and so and that one for me but the second one had its moments but it it it lacked the continuity for me like it didn't it wasn't as funny. It had some cheap laughs. It had some good laughs and it was good nonetheless but
Speaker: Yeah, mine is also a strong critic from the get -go of Ryan Reynolds playing him Because his livery and he's hilarious and everything. I love Ryan Reynolds. His deliveries are so dry though Like he doesn't know his charm though. I Yeah, I guess I think yeah, would say I think that's part of his You know him is a quote -unquote comedic his His timing is spot on. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like, you know, I used to love Norm McDonald. I thought Norm McDonald was hilarious, but he was very dry and very, very
Speaker: cut straight to the, you know, kind of to the point with it, but I thought he was hilarious. But no, Deadpool was Deadpool was definitely a a great movie. I again, Ben mentioned on the head, the bad guys in Gotham were bad guys, not outer space invaders and over the top mutants for the most part. So.
Speaker: That's something we can get into like reality versus super far out there. Like we had mentioned the Joker movie. That's more like realistic. Like yeah the walk the story as compared to like falling in a vat, like, like Jack Nicholson, you guys hold that thought. We're going to go ahead and go to our first break. But before we go, uh, remember bio link.
Speaker: down at the bottom if you want to reach out to us. It's going to be every Thursday. Actually, we're kind of thinking about maybe switching this to Friday, but that's some talks in the background. But I want to give you guys a heads up. And I already spoiled next week. It's going to be Deadpool. Jeff said he was going to be here tomorrow night. I'm going to see if I can't get a few people that has especially watched the movie. Remember,
Speaker: Break time, trivia, all wrong answers in the comments please. And we'll see you in a bit.
Speaker: All right, we are back. Yeah, I know. I need to get better music, Sumi. No, I was jamming, dude. You got the vibes really up there this time. What's that? No, that i dude, I was jamming today. You didn't see me like I was dancing and everything. Oh, I know. I was talking. I was talking to Glick and his comments. Hey, man, you know, I've interviewed like, I don't know, 10, 15 artists. It has a plethora of music. community I guess it would it would help, you know, promote their music and make mine better.
Speaker: um it sort i've I've done one. I've done one so far. mean but Don't worry. I'll interview him and do it better. Don't worry. I'll fix it for you. Good luck with that. You're going to win the merch first. That would be Gary Burt III. He's actually got a song that he just came out with. He he literally wrote it within hours after the Trump assassination attempt.
Speaker: And it's already got over a million views once he released it on, um, it's on Apple. It's on. Yeah. I'm giving them a shameless plug right now. It's on Apple Spotify, Spotify. A lot of people watch it on, um, YouTube. Uh, I've obviously been plugging the shit out of it. He's a good friend of mine too. He's, um, he's nothing coming country star. What's the name of the singer? Gary Burke, the third in the song is taking but or take it back again.
Speaker: gv3 awesome guy um very down to earth i mean obviously like when he's when he's in show mode you know he's one of those ones you know he'll still shake your hand say hi but he you know you leave him be afterwards oh like i mean here he'll treat you like family he's a really good guy um at one point what you know i' i didn't even know this he was um He was signed to a major record label. Things weren't working out and they parted ways. So now he does everything independently. and Okay. Cool. But that's not to say I'm not in touch with, I don't know if anybody's ever heard of Ron De Sheer from USA up all night. That could be in my near future. oh Who is he?
Speaker: She Rhonda Shearer. Oh, sorry. Who is she? you say i the ninety s Yeah, she was on a show. Yes. Yeah. Gorgeous. She's very, she does very little with like mainstream stuff now. Now she's more about, especially since she's gotten up there and age, she does her own thing now where, you know, she's got her own product line. She's constantly pushing at that. But, um,
Speaker: If you, if you Google USA up all night, she'll be the first thing that pops up. Rhonda shear former playboy model, um, former actress. Why don't she, um, she was missing Louisiana. Oh, viral comes to mind for some reason, but she is a hard I'm finding out like, uh, I must be aiming too high because some of these celebrities, even the ones that are still kind of on the back burner now are very hard to get ahold of.
Speaker: Like, I mean, you literally got to go through like three or four different middlemen before you get to the person you want to talk to. Oh, wow. Rhonda. She other. She is right there. Oh, OK.
Speaker: All right. I remember now. But I mean, i've I've been in contact like on Facebook, you know, I followed some of her lives and you know, we've chatted that way. Um, before I had to redo my, um, Instagram, I talked to her a couple of times, you know, she actually responds to her fans in her messenger. So okay why the hell not, you know, ah yeah I've got, I've got a couple other people in mind and,
Speaker: I'm going to get up with the champ over there at some point. And like I told you before, your belt will be coming home with me at some point. Ooh, challenge. The students will become the master.
Speaker: Trust me, I have nothing to fear. I've i've listened to your your show. Ooh, there it is. Oh, you're going to strike the nerve, are you? Ooh, it comes across.
Speaker: Now joking aside, the man's helped me out a whole bunch, like literally a day before or actually the day of the interview. Like I called him in a panic because I was still trying to figure out hey like a lot of stuff.
Speaker: And you know he he took he literally took about an hour out of his time to sit down. And you know he pulled upstream yard was showing me how to do everything. And you know i I actually credit a lot of the success of that interview to the gentleman sitting right over here. While I was preparing for our show. While he was preparing. And he's been knowing that you know like he'll he'll he'll pop in every now and then and say, hi, how you doing? And you know he's kind of keeping up. so You know, nice yeah well yeah, you know and So honestly, I mean I I I'm willing to take a lot of shit from that guy he but at the same time I know for a fact He's got my back. So um I can't it feels wrong to sit down and try and just on his show where it really does um um I'm too nice for God to do that
Speaker: Well, before we get into bringing in Robert Pattison and Ben Affleck into the Batman thing, like you have you have some stuff coming up. You want to go ahead and plug that stuff? I know you've got interviews coming up and some live appearances. I do have i do have ah interview another another interview coming up. this this um handy and A interview. That's all we had to pay.
Speaker: don't you worry both What's this Tuesday's answer? Don't you worry about our arrangement that we have. What is James? It smells good to be able to tell how long we had to work. yeah I want to make sure I say his name right.
Speaker: to do I do have an interview coming up this this Tuesday with James Luger, another country rock guy. ah I got that coming up. At the end of the month, I will be hanging out with the Southern Outlaws Band and I believe Joshua Lee Nelson is the other act. Labor Day weekend, they're doing a couple shows. I know the one for sure is for disabled veterans at the
Speaker: five fours or four fives. I got to remember this stuff. Uh, five fours distillery up in Newton, Newton falls, Ohio. Uh, and then they're going to be at the iron horse saloon. The next night I'll be hanging out with them doing some stage announcements, MC crowd work, whatever they need me to do, helping out, uh, there at the show. And then on September 7th, I'm taking the show on the road.
Speaker: And we will be at Buckeye Battle Act. So if you guys are in the Newark, Ohio area or in Newark, Ohio, come on out to Buckeye bat or Buckeye axe throwing. It's going to be their one year anniversary. And they're also going to be celebrating national, I think it's national beard day and beard day. And they'll be doing a beard competition.
Speaker: So I'll be taking the show there and we'll be live the show. I'll be there. We'll be doing the show live like we normally do on Saturday nights, but I'll be there and doing whatever they need me to do and hopefully hanging out with some of the I'll try to get the owner and and his wife to come on and check for a couple minutes and.
Speaker: some of the patrons there and maybe some of the contestants in the the beard contest so so our Glick is holding back is he's going to be judging the beard braiding competition so i can i get my beard braided is that what we're going to do who who does my who does the best braid just braid my beard in section It could be points for speed, creativity. and your so fuck Can I get cornrows in my beard?
Speaker: but Yeah, man. Lots of, lots of um I'm going to be busy at the end of the month. And um I'm booked solid all the way up through the beginning of September with with guests on Glick's House of Music. Where my guest last Tuesday, Darren Honan,
Speaker: He's got new music coming out left and right. He'll be back on. He's also gonna make an appearance on Cash's corner. He wants to talk some wrestling with with with Cash and I. He revealed that he's a huge wrestling fan, which most people don't know that about him on on the show last Tuesday. So so he's like, yeah, I've seen the show that you did with your son. I really liked it. And we got to talking and he's gonna come on at some point and and hang out, which is crazy to me because that kid is yeah He's super famous on TikTok already and he's just absolutely lighting up the music scene. I don't know.
Speaker: ah so so you know, the kid is doing a lot of things and I'm stoked that he and he wants to come on this show as well. You know, I told him this show. He's like, oh man, that would be fun. I'm down. So, uh, turning it in. and It's turning into nerd talk, which I am not mad at. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: speaking a their talk Let's roll back into it. So tonight's main topic is Batman. Uh, we've already kind of talked a little bit about, uh,
Speaker: Michael Keaton Batman and Christian Bell Batman. But there's some other guys out there who's played Batman. The worst of all, and I think I dare to utter his name because he sucks that bad, Ben Affleck. It's Fat Flick, get it right. yeah like and then what i thought is there and then and then there's third but and back and and And then there's the emo Batman. Yes.
Speaker: which I think you did a pretty good job, but I got to go ahead and roll into it. I know with with you, please. I think I was I was actually surprised by Robert Pattinson.
Speaker: Brian, we've already discussed Foul Kilmer and he was dubbed to be the second worst, I think. out of be and I don't know. but I don't know. it's ah it's It's a close, it's a close... He's still better than Clooney. Clooney just did not... I think Clooney had more sex appeal. ah yeah Yeah, definitely. I was surprised by Pattinson. I went into that movie Not liking it. Like I did not like, i was I went into it already. Like with the mindset, I'm not going to like this. He's going to, but I like what they did with it. at Early stages of that. He's not technically Batman yet. He's vengeance, you know? And you know, it's still like the early stages. ah Yeah. A little emo. I get it. But I think he did. I'm curious to see where this franchise goes.
Speaker: i Didn't even like I didn't like it at all. I didn't like what they did with catwoman. The Riddler was an absolute joke um No pun intended um I will give I'll go give Robert Pattinson some credit though. He trained really hard for the fight scenes and everything so in costume, i will I'll I'll grade him at least and Let me phrase that at most a five because I thought he
Speaker: but You know, he he was able to, you know, perform the fight scenes, but like, even when he was doing his, you know, investigation, you know, he was still that brooding, just stood there and stared, and it was just kind of, no granted, you like you said, it's it's Batman, that should have been Batman Begins, honestly. Because that was him, fresh off his parents dying,
Speaker: And I like the storyline, which way it went. But I'm sorry. I think they took that that movie into a way different. Like it's an absolute standalone when it comes to everything. Yeah. And and and and let's not forget Colin Farrell, unrecognizable as the penguin as the penguin. Yes. And I'm actually looking forward to that. series i want I am very much. so Irish drink of the column barrel.
Speaker: I want to, I want to see the thing. Little shots, guys. I'm not doing full shots. They're literally a finger. You're no judgment here, but but no I will say that I was definitely surprised and I and I found myself Really liking the new Batman and I went into it. I was I was I was dead set I'm like this is gonna be terrible This is gonna be horrible, but it was actually um I'm looking forward to seeing it and where they go with the franchise I want to I want to see the next one. I want to see what their take is gonna be on different villains and characters and
Speaker: I'm on I see I'm with Brian. I think that in the newer ones of Robert Patterson, they're leaning more heavily on his detective side. and and Okay, I could be with that. I dig that. I think that really because and I know as is the moderator injecting himself because the last franchise Christian Bell was more about in my opinion, more about fight scenes and explosions, not the actual, you know, yeah, there was a plot, but I think the Robert Pattinson ones are deeper and more well -written. Yeah. I thought you were the dominator now. but but I am the dominator. No, I said I wasn't. God damn it.
Speaker: say yeah ah no for me toing yeah say for yeah do know i ah say safe for it is i get dropped off the screen I will and I will I will I know I'm going to die on this hill alone and I will and I will accept my fate.
Speaker: I fucking love Ben Affleck, Bat flick as Batman. I thought he was, he was good as Bruce Wayne. He was just arrogant enough, just cocky enough, but also cared about what he was doing and cared about the Justice league.
Speaker: And, and then, and then even, and then as, as the alter, you know, as Batman, I thought it was good. And he was huge, man. He got jacked for that role. Well, it was, i did say that I would say that it was like 75 % suit. But if you see him outside of the suit, he got big for that. I mean, and this is also a guy who.
Speaker: You know, every, every actor has the movies that they wish they didn't do. You know, Ryan Reynolds has made it very clear that he wished he would have never done. <unk>ton three atlanta I'm sure Ben has regrets about Daredevil. The only thing and good that came out of Daredevil was it it was a good movie. Don't get me wrong. i like was was jennifer was Jennifer Gardner jennifer gardner as as as a lecturer. That was great in Daredevil. And there no and and i this this is where this is where it's fun because I honestly, I loved Daredevil. I thought Ben Affleck, that was probably one of his best roles outside of Good Will Hunting. Now, I mean, I know that sounds cheesy, but I mean, he he's actually, he is a very good actor.
Speaker: For the most part, put reindeer games off to the side because that that movie just it the only thing that was good about that was seeing Charlie's there on nude twice, you know.
Speaker: think You know, even Danny Trejo couldn't, you know, save that movie. yeah And it was so much power in that movie. It just, it flopped horribly. I mean, when you got Gary Sinise and like that movie was just prime to be great and it sucked. It really did. But back to Ben Affleck, you know, then he turned around. what Um, didn't he play Jack Ryan? If I'm not mistaken.
Speaker: not No, he did. He did one of those Tom Clancy. Um, he took over the role. Um, the sum of all fears. Was it maybe, you know, he, he, but I thought he, you know, he did very well in, uh, fuck Daredevil. You know, he, he trained for the the parts, you know, but this was also younger Ben Affleck. He was still just kind of breaking out. Um, him as Batman.
Speaker: Like, as Bruce Wayne was awesome. You know, Ben Affleck has a way of making you hate him. You know, he he can play the ultimate asshole. He really can. He's just as cocky, no matter what. Like, even in real life, he's cocky. And this is coming from somebody that, you know, actually enjoyed him in a movie called Jersey Girl.
Speaker: He watches all the gay movies. Ah, dude, I watch movies all the fucking time. I love movies. I'm a geek. Ben Affleck, I will give you guys, i will I will give you that he definitely plays a good Bruce Wayne. However, I think he'd play a better retired Bruce Wayne. Like, if you play retired Batman for like... Like like a Batman Beyond? and beyond something Yeah, that would be awesome. but And it was also the first time we really and at now, granted, it was called for, but it was really the first time we got to see Batman, you know, basically be like, look, I have no superpowers flash. I can take you out Aquaman. I can take you out Wonder Woman. I will take you out Superman. That was the cheesiest goddamn shit I've ever seen in my fucking life in Superman versus Batman. Take care of it either. What'd you say? Take care of Martha.
Speaker: That's what it was. your Your mom share the same name and that was the fucking turning point, not the giant fucking monster from it from God knows what planet that's destroying Metropolis. That's what caused you guys to be friends. But that's not your mom. That was the dumbest goddamn like plot twist turning point of any movie I've ever watched. I'm like, seriously? like but see the front part is all this goes back you know got to see this this also goes back to the original point who was the best batman it just you know all this conversation is strengthened to point michael keaton bar none was the best batman bar none we had an adam west guy up here jeff but but are that's my batman that man came out 30 years before you were born shut up jeff
Speaker: Now, I will put Bat Flick up there in my in my top three favorite Batmans. Yeah. Now, I have to push in number three at best actually i think would be pushed back a lot on the Riddler. I think the Riddler in the new Batman was, I think, was a very it was an -to -date Definitely a recon of of the character. I think it it because it it played into the current social zeitgeist of like internet trolls and cult behavior And shit like that, but that's what ruined it for me You know that that that really did ruin it, you know, you can do a lot with these characters You can make them their own but when you start bringing in
Speaker: like the social politics of everything, it, it ruins it. It really does. So like, I mean, honestly, the best Riddler goes all the way back to the show back with Adam West. And it was um Frank Gershon who originally played the Riddler on the Batman show.
Speaker: almost Almost forgot about it. I actually really liked Jim Carrey killed it. I like but I gotta say the best regular in my opinion and if you want to bring up television shows and I think this television show absolutely fucking killed it with their characters was Gotham. I've been worried. I honestly and it's fear that is keeping me from watching it because I don't want I'm so worried that they're going to now I've seen shorts.
Speaker: And I think their buildup of the Joker character from what I've seen kind of really leads to his backstory a little bit more. Jerome that plays the Joker is one of my favorite Jokers or portrayals of Joker Gotham was so good and it's and it's it's like a prequel because it's it's it's It's Gordon when he's just a detective. it's right You get to see the rise of the villains, you know, Penguin. And and theyre that entire show, that entire cast is easily best riddler, top tier Penguin, top tier Scarecrow, Joker, the best version you're ever going to see of Commissioner Gordon playing period dot into story.
Speaker: Um, you get to see the rise of the cat woman. She's amazing in it. I mean, they just, every character they, they killed in that Gotham show, in my opinion, it was, it was awesome.
Speaker: No, I'm like the show is I can't I can't share because I'm watching sorry go ahead my bad oh No, I you know, I've only seen like maybe the first couple couple episodes I have a hard time getting into it and I don't know why but it seems like it's been more of ah a Vehicle for like the prequel of all the villains before Batman needs to come along I guess you can say it's what it sounds like I mean, i I definitely do I do want to but like I said that fear of I guess the fear of disappointment, you know, and it's so hard for me to get into television shows nowadays. Like the last series I truly got into and can watch this one over and over and over. And surprisingly, even my wife got into it was Californication.
Speaker: So for me, that's a good movie I will never be able to look at David Duchovny as Agent Mulder again. To me, David Duchovny will always be Hank Moody, the the brooding, self -destructive, alcoholic, druggy, free sex -spirited writer with writer's block. just I mean, that that show had literally everything. And the sad part is,
Speaker: I am the only person that has liked that show other than my wife. Everybody else is like, I couldn't get into it. It's stupid. It was a good show. I thought it was phenomenal. It literally has every entertainment aspect that you can think of in it it. It touched on everything. No, I feel that same way with.
Speaker: Oh, shit, what the hell is that show?
Speaker: God, it has escaped. I'm sorry. My mind is is on is on is is on the next section. um but ah Oh, Bob Saget. I used to like think of him as the dude from a Full House. and the house watch And then I actually watched him in his real stand up. I'm like, that dude is just perverted as I am. Oh, God, he's horrible. I can't see him in any other way other than his perverted stand up. And he kind of touched on it if you ever see the movie Critical Condition with Richard Pryor.
Speaker: Bob Saget's actually in that he's a doctor and You know, it's the first time I've ever heard him drop the f -bomb because to me he was always Danny Tanner and to see him do that and then after the fact finding out that Dude behind, you know outside of the full house, dude. He was he was something else yeah saw that was a so similar hurdle Michael Keaton had before he before he debuted as Batman. They're like Michael Keaton, is is his movies. Yeah, yeah like he was the good comedian. He was the down -to -earth sort of, ah the comedian you'd take your mom and dad to a stand -up to. Or was it Johnny Danger was my favorite one. Yeah. And then ah keep Bob Sagan. Bob Sagan. Bob Sagan.
Speaker: Bob Saget, but but he I think just like Robert Patterson, like his his role as Batman shocked a lot of people a and kind of cemented him into being one of the best Batman. I think that's going to happen with Robert Patterson.
Speaker: umm i'm curious toing like it I'm curious to see where it goes. ah you know The path that it's currently on, I think I think they're definitely headed down the right in the right direction for Pattison to be a become a very good Batman. Now, like I said, when I say what road they're going to go down, now continue to grow the character. Don't keep the character the same for three movies. Grow him into Batman, you know, because sometimes movies do that. they're like
Speaker: It's the beginning I don't think it will because I mean he's he's going to be that brooding You know and think about every role he has done since twilight like he's always that brooding you know, he never but fully And what's funny is that's not even him Like if you've ever seen any like when he's on the mtv movie awards Like he he gets out there. He's a funny dude. He really is Like he he is a fun loving person But every role he plays, he's always this brooding, just kind of, you know, melancholy, monotone. It just, man. I mean, that like i said point Brian, I was thinking about that earlier. He can, lot those sort I made the comment earlier about Christian Bale being able to move his head. Keaton couldn't you.
Speaker: Yeah. The Batman, the the movie Batman costumes have definitely evolved over time, including nipples and. Oh, God, yeah, I remember when they they put nipples on the back. You know, that was the Batman, not Batman begins. What was it? The um was that the Clooney one? No, that was the the Val Kilmer one. Was it when I introduced the new bat suit? That nipples, that nipples.
Speaker: he what was the what was batman batman return and then i can't i can't here with nipples right I need a lot more drink. That's, that's, that's, his that's Connor's favorite Batman right there. Nipple man, nipple, Batman, nipple, Batman, Batman. Words are hard. Bat nipple. So you got to think theres connor's like that, that whole, costume him you know, him not being able to move his neck and having to move his whole body that, that, that, that worked with the character. And, you know, think about to all the, the, the different Jason's let's go this route for a second.
Speaker: yeah up until What was it part seven when god see now I'm going um The the were the one man that played Jason like four different times Kane hotter Kane hotter and I'm a huge part of the 13th band. I couldn't think of his damn name You know he he brought depth that character you know he was this big muscle bound you know and you know he just the deep breaths and the way he turned and everything so like when you've got batman can't turn his head you know he's got to turn his whole body you know it makes it a little more dramatic you know what i mean yeah but i i see what you mean however when you're thinking it from
Speaker: the perspective of being a crime fighter, detective swinging across the rooftops, you would think you'd want that extra field of vision. Mobility. Mobility. Not splitting hairs when you think about it, because, hey, Batman was always, ah not only was he a genius, dude, he was a badass when he went handto hand to hand. And he's tactical. That's why I think the old Michael Keaton cow where he can't really move his neck or whatnot, I think was, goes against the essence of the character of being smart and tactical and et cetera. I mean, it is splitting hairs because Michael Keaton is still a great Batman. but but when he heard he himself So look at this way, instead of just turning his head and kind of looking around like this, you know, he's already got his whole body turned ready for what's coming next. Whereas he goes like this, things got turned his body and react.
Speaker: So instead he's already, he's already got himself positioned. This might, this might take a physical debate with two people. There we go. We need an engineer, a physics major. No, just two drunk guys in Batman costumes and Michael. working on it a christian or get We'll get one happening at least. We're going to go ahead and start rolling into our last break and then When will we come back? We're going to go ahead and round it up with Batman's villains. Which one was his worst? Which ones were portrayed the worst or the best in movies? And let's, let's, oh yeah, by the way, bio links down in the banner thing. If you want to get ahold of us, you want to shoot Glick some hate mail, make fun of Jeff. Hey, by all means send Connor some get well.
Speaker: Nipples letters that would be awesome nipples. He loves nipples. That would be awesome ah All right. We'll see you in a few
Speaker: And welcome back. A couple of comments right here. Where was Lord of the Rings? So just real quick, I promise as the shows get more streamlined, the questions will be more thematic. They should win Batman. But where was Lord of the Rings film? Long answers only. Somebody put New Zealand. Somebody didn't read the directions.
Speaker: but No, I thought it was going along with the theme. I said Gotham City, I mean, but I guess I was wrong. Someone did say, no, it no, that's right. Wrong answers only. Glick's Woodforce Treehouse, Hagrid's Hut, and somebody put, yep, there he goes. Gotham's, who's William Nasser? Is that you? That would be me. Oh, okay. here yeah I didn't know when signing up for certain things, you didn't have to put your full official name.
Speaker: Oh, and and first off, and just to correct you it, just it clear William, just to correct you. My name is Redneck Gandalf. All right. Get it right. Brian's been calling me Redneck Gandalf for like four years now. More like gay off. Anyway, so you said what we did behind the rest stops wasn't gay.
Speaker: and Well, I don't know, as much as you went to a restaurant. Oh, come on. Look, hey. Blaze is a classy bougie bitch. I got to take him to high end places. I was right next door, didn't you? I'm not talking about the rest day where it's just bathrooms and vending machines. I'm talking about off the ones and with McDonald's and subways. And I actually went to a bar the other day that still had the old quarter machine in it.
Speaker: Nice quarter machine. When you went into the bathroom, like they still had the, you know... Oh, condom for a quarter? Yeah. Oh, yeah. In the same one, you had the French tickler, you had the condom, you had the low kit, you had the glow in the dark, and they also had men's cologne.
Speaker: so figure i see you deal our swans is very long come on come on what why what I don't need see. I already got what I was talking about. Batman. That's what we're talking about. Alright, so we've all all decided that Robert Patterson is the best Batman and if you just sure we did. Yeah. I thought it was I thought it was Clooney or or Kilmer in the nipples. I thought it was i want i want i want to give i want I want to give a couple honorary shout outs here as far as yeah very good Batman characters.
Speaker: Now, granted, I know that they were ah they were old, they were cartoons. But Kevin Conroy is the king of Batman's voice in the in any animated series.
Speaker: ah And and and and and will our net from Lego Batman was yeah awesome phenomena yeah See this is why I think I should switch the show to Fridays because this Batman discussion one for but but Don't forget, you know if we're gonna go with Batman voices honorary shout out to Mark Hamill for having the best joke voice ah blue scholar is The voice of Joker The best joker, the best joker of all time, hands down, period, that end of story. It's a shame Mark Hamill never did anything else other than just voice the joker. So he's got a handful of other stuff, but he he's more of a voice actor. He really is. And he's damn good at it too. I remember seeing him in an old Skinemax flick with if anybody remembers this 80s actor, Mark Singer, aka the Beastmaster.
Speaker: and i mean He did a skin movie where they were both detectives. And this was after the famous, you know, Jeep accident that he was in. And I mean, he's, he showed he could still do it. But then again, he turned around and did cock knocker and Jay and silent Bob strike back. Little known Mark Hamill role.
Speaker: James silent Bob again, you know, I can't go the night without at least bringing up blunt to me and probably my favorite Here on a Batman. Yes that a blunt man in chronic absolutely You I so you that man I'll tell you what silent Bob That I mean the guy's a genius it really is and he's a comic book geek If you're gonna do this, I would love to have a gentleman like that on here. I Kevin Smith and battle him over the comic book characters and absolutely just get throttled. Thank you, sir. May I take another you will beat me with Stan Lee's world copy of incredible. it wasn't just I mean, yeah, he was a Marvel guy, but I mean, he his knowledge, like his movies, everything like he he was but part producer of Good Will Hunting way back in the day. And I alluded that earlier, which is a Robin Williams best role ever.
Speaker: Kevin Smith is a smart motherfucker. That's for sure. Man. they' have they use Great movies. Jason Muse. Amazing, amazing. He's played in some good movies. There's actually, there's a movie, a horror movie with him in it. i've been meaning Bitten. With that money. That's it, Bitten. Yep. Where he got, you know, he was dating a vampire chick and, you know, yeah we all know what her best role in that was, honestly. Just saying.
Speaker: Yes, I'm gonna have to watch it. Well, we've discussed Batmans and we've we've brought up Jokers, ah one of the villains, Mark Hamill. Before we go into the topic of, you know, the worst villain, best villain, the villain with the most challenge, you know, brought the most challenge to Batman, just real quick. I don't know if you guys have watched the new Batman animated series, only bring this up because somebody brought up the old animators. Have you guys watched that yet on Prime?
Speaker: about lego batman No, no, it just came out last week. It's a brand new. Oh, I know. Yeah. It's supposed to be a more adult oriented. It's called Batman Caped Crusader. Yes. Yes. It's ah different. The perspective that they're writing it from, I think is a little different than what we're usually uh all about are used to i guess but it's it's okay i i gotta rewatch it i watched the first couple episodes and guy was distracted trying to watch it so i need to rewatch it but i didn't know if maybe if any of y 'all two have watched it yet and what you're doing but the thing of it is when it comes to like amazon prime um i think they're trying too hard to be edgy like if you watch the boys which is based off of a graphic novel if i'm not mistaken
Speaker: good show but I think it goes just a little bit over the top almost to the point of cartoonish with their you know a lot of their stuff that they do on prime you know they're they're trying to push the edge is as close they can get and you know they're they're forgetting the whole you know people watch movie for the acting believe it or not you know he I used to watch 80s porn for the acting I thought it was amazing Hey, Perry, um you know, I think there's actually a remake in in the works. I those was agree. if If the rumors are true.
Speaker: There are, they, there are there, but they're in the works to make a new Highlander franchise. I would absolutely love to see a new, eye it was I love the franchise. I love it. It was great. the The last one sucked. Let's, let's, let's be honest. The very last one they did was horrible. The series i were in that all kind of this series was good um yeah after end game. They did one more with, um, who's the guy that took over?
Speaker: There was Connor McCloud and Duncan McCloud. Connor McCloud, I can't remember the actor's name. He was the guy that went on to do that. They did one more after that. It was stupid. The plot line sucked like it took away from the entire series. But what I like about the rumors coming up, they're talking about rebooting the original Highlander.
Speaker: and bringing back Christopher Lambert as the. The Mr. James Bond played him. um Sean Connery. Sean Connery. He's going to come in as the Sean Connery role. OK. You know what? let you You know what? Maybe you should try out. You know, it can only be one. There can only be one Scottish Viking warrior lady.
Speaker: That can hurt. Yeah. Oh, good. He'll be like the world's best golf player. Fantastic. I can't wait to see it. I mean, john Sean Connery was in in the Highlander movies. The first two, he was in there, yes. He was Ramirez. and correct me if i' yeah Correct me if I'm wrong, but Connery's a Scottish actor, correct? Uh -huh. Sean Connery.
Speaker: And Adrian Paul, who played Adrian Paul. Yes. Adrian Paul, who played him, I think in a couple of movies and in the series. I mean, he's English, but basically the same thing. Test, test Americans are all the same, right? Right lady. All right. So Batman villains. Ooh, there's been a lot of additions to the Joker from the movies. those Are we sticking to the movies?
Speaker: You don't we know across the board then like like like me personally, I think uh, I think slave wilson is probably batman's most formative foe foes in my in my opinion, but it's not about my opinion i'm only the moderate just Yeah death stroke was more of a of a green arrow a villain and He just kind of crossed over and fucked with everybody but slave slave wilson was a badass man. He he was it was i didn't ah I don't personally like the way they they portrayed Slade Wilson in that show Green Arrow. Uh, maybe I know the best. The best one was at the the the the bonus scene at the end of Justice League. Yes, and uh. The guy is married to Sophia, but. Uh, I'll see from True Blood, Maganella, Joe. Yeah, Joe Maganello.
Speaker: Who's from here in Pittsburgh believe it or not? He started his career. You know his his career was that as a bo career that's not something to brag if Plenty to brag about you just pissed off because you know our boys are gonna stomp you this season 100 you know lucky because oh we're gonna split hairs and that's why miles Garrett got you know and everybody said TJ Okay, I'm sorry. We went off so next subject
Speaker: I'm going to ban sports. I knew you're going to wear the Browns. I almost put it on. I'm going to, I'm banning sports. Cheers. the dominator you Yes, daddy. No more sports. There's only one rule. I roll. There's no sports.
Speaker: blas the dominator who's he We all know the Steelers are the best, so what just the we'll go on with the player. The one time we'll have a sports discussion, each each guest has to come up wearing in there they're they're they're paints their their body paint, and they have to wear the foam fingers only way. Leggy, who's the NFL team over in Scotland? You got to tell us, girl. and We got to at least get that answer before we really get going. and I'm very interested in knowing that because they they've branched over into Europe a lot.
Speaker: I kind of like the idea. That boy it would be a great um a great I love that. He's buffed the fuck up too. Yeah. You know what? If you really want to go that route, I could see Colin Farrell being a damn good dunk in the cloud. Oh, let's go. I really do.
Speaker: my I guess you and McGregor would be really good too. I like him a lot too. But attention I don't know if he could play in a movie like that. I mean, I could like Roadhouse was one was one part. I know he's Irish and I know. when But when he needs to like have actual more complicated lines, I don't know if he could pull that off. Not Conor McGregor, you and McGregor.
Speaker: I was like, what was she talking about? i get i got my know happen you're gonna come up with this and be Jason playing Duncan McLeod and it's just going to be. ah
Speaker: In comic books in DC, I want to see him play Lobo. I do too. Jason Momoa playing Lobo.
Speaker: o I want i want to see that to pull that off. um A lot better than Aquaman. I thought he was decent at Aquaman. I mean, that's a whole other conversation. I thought he did good, actually. I was impressed. It wasn't it wasn't bad compared to that character anyway. I mean, it's Aquaman. What's funny is, you know, the man gets cast in all these huge, you know, he's got to be buffed up. You know, he just plays this beat big muscle head in everything he does.
Speaker: at night.
Speaker: now now i got you right here now but if you can right now so that That's the extent of his acting chops. um or you fit in there he workss in your hands therere all pecker at his hand there can only be one There can be only one freaking Highlander.
Speaker: Damn it. I lost. but We were talking about something right before that. Oh, Jason. and me one He gets cast in all like he was Conan. He was in. um Oh, oh, God damn it, man. I'm just like misfire and left and right now. um Game of Thrones. You know, he was also in the fast movies. He was in bullet to the head. We're still on plays. All these muscle guys. He was Aquaman. The man absolutely hates going to the gym.
Speaker: He absolutely hates going in there and have to do all this work to get these roles. He wants to be him, he said. That commercial he did where he goes in and he takes off the bodysuit and he's a super skinny kind of, you know, nothing. He said that was more him than anything. Interesting.
Speaker: he He really he does he truly hates going to the gym. He hates being that you know, he wants to break weight back i would I would totally hate being ripped with long hair and a nice I know right and women throwing themselves at me and being a millionaire that would just be but you know not gonna You're not gonna make me feel sorry for Jason Momoa in any way shape and or form. I'm sorry. It's not gonna happen yeah um ah Sorry, Jason, but it's not happening, buddy. Shut up. Maybe you should have picked a different career choice. i will i You know what? I will i will say this for for for Aquaman only because Jason Momoa played it. At least he helped that franchise more than Black Adam the Rock. hurt the franchise Oh God, I cannot bring myself to watch that. I've heard it was horrible.
Speaker: It's so it's so well, but like ever since it's gone to like cable now or whatever you stream They said I mean it's just plummeted. It's and it walks a good actor. he did He's a bit easy but i now amazing And I'm one of the few people out there that liked him in doom I You know, I thought I liked it. I actually liked that movie. Doom wasn't a great movie. And he wasn't that bad. I'm not going to go for a great movie, but but my guy was all his recent stuff is just so the the problem with black. The problem with Black Adam was The Rock. I'm sorry. And I just put somebody else in that role. It was a cool film. It was a cool. It was a cool storyline. You got to see some characters that we hadn't got to see yet.
Speaker: ah take the rock out of it, put somebody else. And I had that way about the Scorpion King. I did not like the Scorpion King. um they put a you know I know that's the movie that like, you know, skyrocketed him to stardom. But in my opinion, like I very I really enjoyed him. And like, I mean, even what was that San Andreas?
Speaker: like he he can do drama. I liked rampage. I thought he was hilarious in that. He's you know, he showed he can do comedy. He's just a rock. manji he's He's just the rock and everything. that's all he is Well, he'll always be the rock as much as he can try and break away from that. You know, he wants to be called Dwayne Johnson outside.
Speaker: and people still call him The Rock no matter what. He's grown to accept it. But come on, the man became famous because of his time in WWF and then turned into WWE. You know, Rocky Maivia. I love that character. Oh, yeah. But I've just said he's just in every role. He's just The Rock. He's he's big, muscle bound, me head guy and and might drop a few funny lines here and there and some movies or, you know, in movies that call for it. But cool. How about that one?
Speaker: It's just he's gay rock. He was gay rock. now you not But you're going to be gay. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. ah You know, there are some movies that he's done that I like. Don't get me wrong. I mean, ah you know, I don't like the Fast and Furious franchise at all, but I liked Hobbs and Shaw. I think that was more Jason Statham than The Rock. but The second I was the best one, after that, it just it really went to shit. Tokyo Drift sucked. See, here we weve straight off again. So, movie villains. Oh, no, you're fine, man. That's what happens when when when you're taught when you're discussing movies and actors and we branch out. Movie villains, Batman. There's been a lot of renditions of Joker. Some good, some bad, some Jared Leto bad. Shut your whore mouth. Wow.
Speaker: I was going to give him a shot up until that point. if You just don't like, you just don't like. I don't like your let thirty seconds <unk> great band. It really is. You know, said nobody else ever, but Hey, I mean, he was great in fight club too, because he got his face bashed in. I agree on that. We just want me and my kid just watched that. Yeah. Fair.
Speaker: fair My son had no idea what he but doing he thought it was was going to be blood sport when he saw a fight club. And it was nothing like it he still enjoyed it, but he was very disappointed it like as was I when I first watched it. Yeah, um i'm I'm over I'm over him too. I'm over Kevin Hart as well. I swear to God. I think the rocks just keeps him in the back and that fanny pack that he carries. yeah He's just fucking random Kevin Hart moments. I mean, Kevin Hart's hilarious. Don't get me wrong. I'm just over it. Yeah, but he's just one punchline after another. I mean, he he always plays the same. I want to see Kevin Hart outside of comedy just one time. And the closest he came was a movie, Fool's Gold, where he was rapper. What was it? Big Bunny B.
Speaker: or big buddy, big bunny D. He was a little more serious and he's a little thug, little gangster, but he was still Kevin Hart. Yeah. No, I, I, I enjoyed Jared Leto's version of the Joker. I liked it. I thought he did a good job. I liked the way they went with it. Um, the tattoo on the hand, that was something brand new. Yeah. Like we had his the mouth on the back of the hand and when he laughed. Yeah.
Speaker: That's why I said he was psychotic in that one. He was a little ah he was he was like extra, a little thug -ish, psychotic, but he was also very methodical. Yes. like every Everything he did was just planned to achieve, mapped out. His relationship with Harley Quinn in that movie,
Speaker: was amazing. Like that showed the actual relationship like the true relationship, the comic book relationship that those two had loves her. That's his world. But he you know what, in the end, he will still sacrifice her. You know, if it means his preservation.
Speaker: That was my thought on it, though. I mean, yeah, no i agree i I think it was a very good depiction of of their relationship. and And you know, I know that this is a popular opinion. And I know somebody else was supposed to play the role. I'm not really mad at Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze. That was I mean, it was corny. It was cheesy. It was not a movie stock. Honestly, the only saving grace for that Batman
Speaker: was ah Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl. I thought she pulled it off perfect. That and Uma Thurman was an absolutely amazing Poison Ivy. She had the sex appeal. She fit the role perfect. They could not have cast a better person. And if they ever do another Poison Ivy, I'm going to be very disappointed if they do not look at Uma Thurman to reprise that role.
Speaker: Well, I think I think you know the downside to that with going with the the the new quote unquote generation and younger versions and stuff like that, you know, and nothing against Uma Thurman because I think she's a phenomenal actress.
Speaker: and That man forever. That's what it was. Thank you. That that answered a question from her. at man ah That man on ice is what I used to call it. No, that was Batman and Robin. That was Mr. Freeze. Batman, whoever had Too Faced and Riddler. I would be curious. I would love to see them reprise or bring back Poison Ivy. And I would be curious to see what new actress or, you know,
Speaker: that they would have played the role. Um, so there's a lot of actresses out there because they're throwing her and everything too. No way. but No way. Joking. I was joking. I wouldn't actually go with that. no like god It was like a Kevin Hart joke. He's in everything.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. ah god umed in with that comments yeah you know we might Actually could probably pull it off. And this is kind of a long shot. I think that what's her name? Alison Sweeney from Euphoria. I think she could pull off. And before she went batshit crazy, I would have went as far as to say, um,
Speaker: ah johnny debex the one that was an aquaman and her I think she could have been a decent poison ivy. She could have been. She still might be. I mean, it's just because she's, you know, look how many actors out there are fucking stupid outside of, you know,
Speaker: I do not know that kind and fatmanrick Like you've got a poor McDonald that dude was just off the frickin walls like he was he was just a yeah go for But when you put him on camera Amazing and believe it or not Johnny Depp's another one like I mean he's highly intelligent, but you take him off camera I Mean anybody that watched that trial Like he is just he he's a goofball. He really is He's you know He's on a different level than everybody else. very they these These people can still do these amazing roles. And I think Amber Heard, if you put her back in front of that camera, she's still going to produce some awesome movies. So that's my half glass full take on Amber Heard.
Speaker: What do you think about Aaron Eckhart's two -face role and awesome potential the potential it had that it it never was given? yeah yes yeah yeah that's i love pluming lee jones He was so much better as two -faced than Tommy Lee Jones even. Tommy Lee Jones played him very well.
Speaker: Don't get me wrong, but Aaron Eckhart is just, I mean, dude, he's a next level actor when it comes to this sort of thing. yeah That man, he is so underrated when it comes to Hollywood movies. I don't think he's ever been in a movie that is bombed, aside from um any given Sunday, which I absolutely loved that as a football movie. You think that movie bombed? Oh, it bombed in the theaters. Yes, it did. It did horrible.
Speaker: That was Oliver Stone. is said He was disappointed in how that movie came out. But I thought that movie was awesome. Aaron Eckhart was awesome, even though he didn't have the biggest role in it. you know He was an offensive coordinator. um But Aaron Eckhart is one of those very underrated. Everything he does, I feel, is very good.
Speaker: Like, I mean, he's just, he's a phenomenal actor. he yeah And I don't think he gets enough credit. I don't think he gets enough roles, whether that's, you know, him choosing his roles or what, but him, his two -face was phenomenal. yeah The Dark Knight altogether was like the star power in that movie for that time, especially. I didn't, it's really hard for me to say that The Dark Knight,
Speaker: was a bad movie in any sense. yeah It really did good. Like the ending Batman sacrifice, you know, I know I'm a good guy right now, but I want everybody to believe that I'm the one that killed, you know, Commissioner Gordon. And, you know, it's just that movie Dark Knight, aside from who's the best Batman was the best out of the franchise. a It really was. Okay.
Speaker: because it it touched on everything and in all three of those movies batman begins dark knight dark knight rises were all standalones the first two you know the first four batmen were a standalone the the new justice league batmen are standalones and now we've got the batman and it's going to be a standalone series yeah now i've said that robert patinson was by far my but He wasn't the worst. I still think George Clooney was the worst. And I'm a George Clooney fan, don't get me wrong. I mean, he's done a lot of good stuff. okay yes you'll ah He'll always be ER. r But I mean, he showed comedic chops. He's shown drama. He's shown action. He's another one. you dode I remember him from back in Return of the Killer Tomatoes.
Speaker: Oh, wow. 1988. There was a great you go. There's a movie. yeah Wow. Holy shit. He was in that one. Yes. that's so That's like remembering Jennifer Aniston being in the in the fucking leprechaun movie. Oh, God. We I yesterday. yesterday bishop number And that was that that was wicked.
Speaker: Warwick Davis. but He will forever be known as the leprechaun because of that role. But that'll be said. Each series has been a standalone. And, you know, I can even go as far as to say like you had the Tim Burton Batman.
Speaker: And then George, clark that Batman and Robin, I couldn't tell you who was the director. or well I mean, it's short. I think it was, it might've been, you know, Joel Schumacher might've been, but that movie just, I mean, for the star power, there was no connection for me. You know, I felt, Schwarzenegger can't do comedy. Aside from twins, I thought that was a good movie. But, and, but he didn't cop.
Speaker: But yeah, you know, he's always like you said, what about the rock? He's always going to be that big muscle bound. You know, he's, you know, he's commando. He's total recall. He's the Terminator. So like give me iconic roles. It's really hard to break away from them. Just like Christian Bale. He'll never get away from the Batman role, you know, and he's had a lot of great roles. He really has.
Speaker: Robert Pattinson, he's always gonna be known as Twilight now. Let's let's jump ship just a little bit and when you think about it Daniel Radcliffe all the movie, you know the other movies he's been in since How can you not see him being? anybody but Harry Potter and I think when you get these these roles and especially a series a Successful series at that. Yeah it's really hard to break away from that so for mely
Speaker: robert pattenson is batman it's really hard for me to you know break him away from the end war edward ro and twilight so that's fair enough that's where the the debate comes in you know but i still see him as edward a sparkly vampire. Now don't get me wrong. Okay. And I hate to say this. Yes. I watched a lot of gay movies. I believe it or not did like the Twilight series. I don't like the direction that went after the first one, but you know, i thought the first two were okay. And then it kind of lost me. My ex wife may be watching them because she read the the book series and the first two, I was like, I just this kind of, and then it lost me. I liked
Speaker: i did read the book with my wife blue Halfway the second one, I was lost. What killed me is like, I just said all that about these people that have these phenomenal roles and they can never break away. ah you know And it's a real strong point. Kristen Stewart. What really has she done since? Not much. The Twilight. She did probably his angels.
Speaker: a lot of independent movies, and the only thing that the only thing that kept her relevant, and I know people are going to say this might be a little bit sexist, the only thing that has kept her relevant in the movies since, because there's been very few that she's done, is where she finally went topless. She felt like her career at this point, she had to start ah showing skin, the really, you know,
Speaker: But she cannot break away from Edward or from Bella in the Twilight series. What role was that? I i haven't been watching. She did a movie called um she was in a rendition of Lizzie board Borden. It was called Lizzie. OK. And, you know, they turned and it was a weird spin on the Lizzie Borden thing. They made Lizzie Borden out to be a ah lesbian.
Speaker: So she fell in love with, you know, that the handmade and the handmade and helped her kill her parents. And of course, they both had to be naked a couple of times. She was also in a movie, I want to say it was called Shopping.
Speaker: she's She's done a couple other independent movies where she and it was just really weird, like these these roles all required her to be naked. Interesting. interesting so as go say The kind of kind of bring it back around. you I think the one thing that we that we kind of left out with as much as we give Batman forever and Batman and Robin shit and and about how bad they were. We also have to remember these were more commercialized movies. They were made more for like quote unquote kids because you had a fuck ton of like toys that came out from them. McDonald's got involved. You go get happy meals with the the Batman forever or Batman and Robin toys in them and stuff like that. So they made them a lot more cheesy and and and kind of campier, I guess you could say, then the then the the first couple.
Speaker: But I had, I was sitting here thinking, I had a thought to go back to the poison ivy thing. Who could play her today?
Speaker: And Emma Stone, I think would be really cool for us. and this sound probably be pretty good But even above her, and I know like i know before everybody freaks out, but she's in Marvel. Trust me, people bounce back and forth all the time. Yeah. There is an actress. Elizabeth Olsen would be an amazing point. And I agree with that 100%. And i I'm going to add one more to that. And I'm trying to think of her name. She was in Zombie Land, Emma Roberts.
Speaker: yes and arrived you know sneak and playings very good Yes I mean if you want to take and if you want to take a 90s actress You're gonna like this one. Here's a real long shot for you. I honestly feel like Nev Campbell in her heyday Could pull off
Speaker: Have you guys seen that movie? I know this movie has Jenna Ortega in it, but I'm not talking about her. I'm talking about another actress in the movie. Mia Goth. Her, yes. Mia Goth. Mia Goth is a modern day um Wednesday Addams. What was the the the girl that played Wednesday Addams in the original?
Speaker: um why nothing Christina Ricci. Yeah, which if we're talking about 90s, Christina Ricci might have been able to pull off a poison ivy. It's really hard to beat with Thurman. I think she could reprise the role. Yeah, I think I think I think the new younger generation. I think Elizabeth Olsen would absolutely kill it. as and that's That's a hard debate that really is a hard to debate that that would be a phenomenal um if well, OK, since we're still talking about. The one who played Black Widow.
Speaker: Yeah, but I think Scarlett Johansson, I think. Yeah, I think she's so locked in and intertwined as an Avenger that
Speaker: I don't know. the movies yeah remember Remember the movie Skin she was in? Yeah. It would just be weird to see her do the crossover into the DC world. Even though, like I said, Elizabeth Olsen is Scarlet Witch. There's no stands or butts about it. But that would be an easier flip than Scarlett Johansson jumping, shipping one to DC. And even still, you know i'm I'm leaning more towards like ah the younger variants or a younger version.
Speaker: um is is with especially with this new casting but i mea goth i could see her ended up in this new bat the batman series franchise so that one more go ahead go ahead ah well i was gonna say you you put that up there about jennifer love hewitt um and i saw the comment when he posted it and The only thing I don't like about J love is most of the role she's played. And if anybody has watched the new, you know, the 911 series from Fox, and I think they went to NBC now and so on and so forth, you know, she, she always, it's, it's really hard to see her play poison Ivy because she always plays this whiny character. She's more about the, the, the drama, the, you know, like, um,
Speaker: Oh, gosh, what was that? She she did. um I know what you did last summer. And then she also did that can hardly wait. You know, she was on with I can't remember the 90s show. um But either way,
Speaker: I can't see J Love doing that because she all she's another one of those that plays the same character in everything she does. So to have her try and break away from that and do something completely different, I just i can't see her being a good Poison Ivy. I know the perfect perfect actric actress in my opinion. She played in
Speaker: Jesus fuck. It all escapes my mind. She played on a show on the CW where she was the daughter of some mother. No, this was for Gilmore girls. No, oh the chick, the chick, the daughter and Gilmore. Yeah. he's one Something more recent. She's more. Yeah. Well, no, but I think she'd be great as poison ivy.
Speaker: be ah Yeah, I can see that she she she could because, you know, before poison ivy became poison ivy, she was kind of mousy and shy and right yeah and then she gets that newfound confidence. Before we go, I wanted to ask you guys, just real quick, we had touched on Robin a couple of times and every time like Gordon Levitt never played out, even though they said he was going to Chris, the O 'Donnell dude, he played, he sucked at it. They really haven't been able to portray Robin, I think in Hollywood in a way that really captures the audience or does just or the character need justice. What do you think or what's your suggestion? I don't think they've actually been able to, outside of Joseph Gordon Levitt, they really haven't gone down that avenue.
Speaker: Now, if you love with the best one up until him yeah now you if you watch titans the live action show, it's on HBO, you get every Robin, you get Dick, you get Scott and then and then Bruce's son. But you get them all three as the Red Hood.
Speaker: Uh, it's a good, car right what the fuck is his name? I can't remember. thats that far really good I saw that too. ah Yeah, Nightwing. You get Red Hood, Nightwing, and then that the the youngest Robin being drink wa Bruce's son and yeah in this in this in this in this series. But they all have their their their moments of flashback and to be Robin. And I did a very really good show, a really good job with this show, Titans. And it's probably the best on -screen representation of Robin and
Speaker: the other versions of Robin as well. But I don't think we've really gotten, I mean. yeah So in the comics. in the comics Robin was always first portrayed as a kid not maybe not a kid kid but sort of like saying anything about Batman but he had a fondness for young boys well like he couldn't afford it
Speaker: The point I was trying to get to is the first Batman with O 'Donnell, he was an adult. Full asrow -ass, grown -ass still, like, okay. And then you have Gordon Levitt. He was already a cop. And they were talking about, see, when when that actor betrays Dick Grayson at that age, by comic timeframe, shouldn't he be Nightwing by then? So if they were to bring a Robin in like at what they've been point in doing a Robin, honestly, they should yeah jump right into Nightwing is what you're Yeah, I agree. I agree. And that's, and that's, and that's what Titans does. They, they, they jump right in. ah Grayson is Nightwing, but you see the flashbacks of yeah when he was, when he was Robin. Okay, bring the Nightwing straight forward, but do flashbacks to kind of fill in those gaps. Yeah, which is what Titans do. And they do the same thing with the Red Hood. And then the actual Robin is Bruce Wayne's son being you know the youngest Robin and and being the youngest member of, or he was actually the leader of the team Titans.
Speaker: um ah you know so but yeah so they do a good job on that that's that team tight was it but but i don't think robin was his son didn't he i i think if i remember i um sketching my whole no what for example wasn't he or ifphan he was an orphan or yeah i thought he had a kid at one point he had an actual an actual son i think so know yeah yes no becomes right know gar her wasn't that It was Raul, Raul, Raj, all ghouls started that he had a kid like Drake or something shit like that. yeah some But there's an actual Wayne that does become a Robin as well. well yeah So no I want to, it was not really much. I want to ask you guys something.
Speaker: ah
Speaker: and We haven't touched on this and she's a huge character in the Batman world. Catwoman. Pfeiffer, Halle Berry, Hathaway, or Zoe Kravitz. I wouldn't sound old school here, but I'm sorry. As much as I love Hathaway's version,
Speaker: I think the true essence was hit and it could be because it was all Tim Burton. When you think about it, like all the characters he did stayed true to the comic book. He was more of a comic type guy anyways. Like his stuff was very, but Michelle Pfeiffer for me all day, she had the sex appeal. She had the chops to do it. Like she could, you know, she was both Selena Kyle and Catwoman. I feel, and I, you know,
Speaker: Did I think Anne Hathaway did a good job? Yes. Aretha Kit way back in the day. Of course, there was two different Catwoman's back in the show. There was Aretha Kit and I can't remember the other woman's name right off hand. But two different people played Catwoman during the show. And Aretha Kit was the most famous one. I thought it was Eartha Kit. I could be wrong.
Speaker: i
Speaker: It might be. Either way, her last name's Kit. We can agree on that.
Speaker: but yeah i try the i like got Zoe Kravitz's character, you know, it's really hard for me to, you know, back anybody from the Batman movie. Like I was not a fan of how they portrayed the Riddler or Catwoman or Batman.
Speaker: The only good saving grace and the only thing we've been able to agree on on that movie was Colin Farrell was the penguin. But then again, I still say Danny DeVito was the best penguin. ah I think that meant, you know, but, you know, but that's the evolution of acting though. Like, so I mean, you you have to progress if you do the same thing over and over. And I think that's what pisses people off about all these reboots we've been seeing.
Speaker: you know you got to remember like everybody's given the the new crow that's coming out which i will go and see i'm gonna take my kid i i'm looking forward to it actually ah you know i'm interested you know we go from gothic to emo And I saw an interview, well, a podcast, it was a goth talking about the new crow coming out and he said it best. And I think that it doesn't just, you know, go for the crow. I think it goes for all of it. It is the evolution back then. Goth was really starting to take off, you know, it was the nineties. You had goth, you had, you know, the grunge era was kicking in, you know, the Seattle wave that came through. Um,
Speaker: So, movies today, they have to update it to try and fit in with to- today's crowd, what they're looking for. Because otherwise, you would literally be doing the same exact movie. You have to put a spin on that. And they did that with Top Gun's Maverick. They kept true to the original, but they took you know they put today's spin on it.
Speaker: Does that mean it's always going to work? No, sometimes you just need to leave certain movies alone, like they're getting ready to do the Lost Boys. I'm not looking forward to that one because that one's just. Oh, yeah, I do. So when you look at Joey Kravitz playing. I said I didn't know they were including the they have to have. Oh, man, I don't know. They have to have a sexy, sexy sex guy has to be in it. Oh, Keith, you're subtler himself. um There's been talk about some of the originals coming back. Obviously, you can't have both, you know, Corey's back anymore. R .I .P., you know, Corey Haim. Yeah. I'm not seeing the crow as another character. He has a great element. He's lost his goddamn mind.
Speaker: Well, but with Zoe Kravitz, I mean, I think they tried too hard. and with excitement I think it's still a little bit too early since they've, they've stated that this, the Batman is going to be a quote unquote franchise. I think it's a little bit too early to cast. aon car Yes. a Agreed. We already touched on that actually. I think it's a little bit too early to cast too much judgment on the characters because we're just getting to see the development and, and.
Speaker: And like I said, the cool thing about the Batman is that they're going back. This is the beginning. This is when he's just becoming Batman. And Selena is just becoming Catwoman. And these characters are developing into their roles.
Speaker: um I mean, I love Pfeiffer. Don't get me wrong. But Hathaway, again, not a fan of the Dark Knight trilogy or the series.
Speaker: But there was a couple of characters in that movie that I really liked. and And Hathaway, I thought she absolutely killed it. I thought she, in both worlds, Catwoman, Selena, I thought she killed it. No disrespect to Michelle Pfeiffer, but Michelle's number two in my books. And Hathaway comes in with number one. think of it is Just ball eight thank you for being pretty, Halle Berry. And thank you for being here. and thank you for being pretty Richard Catwoman.
Speaker: um thank you for going mar's ball Hey, appreciate that one. You've done a lot of great movies, Hallie. You were asked this Catwoman. I went to see Starfish only because Hallie Berry did her famous scene. I'm not going to lie. Gentlemen and sorry, Dave. we we I think we touched on Bane a bit.
Speaker: I'm gonna start winding this down hit the two -hour mark. That's about as all I have on a Thursday Again, we're in talks and moving this to Friday. So we keep it going ah But I want to thank ah PJ deal for coming up yeah Love love the discussion. Thank you for being in a wealth of knowledge and ah All things Batman Glick. Thank you, too. um I shoot I guess I'm gonna go ahead and plug the weekly lineup real quick ah for all the Nonsensical network sister shows Monday nights. We got men caring for men Tuesday night. We had glitz house of music interviews coming coming in soon and hot. He's fully booked Wednesday night. We have what the fuck news
Speaker: Thursday nights, well, you're here on whose argument is it anyway where the discussions can keep going if there wasn't a time limit. Sorry about everybody down there. because I would love to keep doing this. Everybody should right -click a petition to have this move to Fridays. Dude, I'll go overtime if you want me to. We can get this going, dude. I love it. I'm having a drive. Unfortunately, I can't on a Thursday night. All you have to do is tell me when. All you have to do is tell me when you want to go to Friday night and and well we'll... We'll put it out there as the fight the new Friday night show. Yeah. Because I think these discussions can go for a while because Dave had brought up Bain. And I want to thank the audience for for participating tonight. You guys are awesome. Because there's so much in the Batman world. We didn't even touch video games.
Speaker: not just put to that surface we just put I'm glad because I haven't been a gamer for a long time. Fair enough. we Friday nights, go ahead, Glick, I'm sorry. just put the in we We just put the tip in on Batman. the Batman. Just the minute we can do this for next couple of hours, honestly. just but that tip just a bat tip So right now, Friday nights is Friday night, freshness. Wait, no, not for, oh, there's definitely freshness. Flashback Fridays and occasionally, Glick's new show with his son, Cash's Corner, where they talk nothing but wrestling. Get your, Super Slam's already passed, huh? So what's coming up next? I have no idea, I don't know. What is the next bit for you? I can't remember.
Speaker: um I'm not gonna lie, like, like um I'm gonna have to rip on your... I might have to steal part of your idea, dude, about having your kid come on there. I would love to sit down with mine sometime and just, like, do a show, me and him talking about the way I, you know, the music I like, movies, so on and so forth, and getting a perspective on today's teens, honestly. Generational. Generational. Yeah, the generational gap.
Speaker: That's a good idea, dude. Hell yeah. yeah i'm not I'm not trying to steal your show, but I might have to rip a little bit of your idea, brother.
Speaker: Sorry. Saturday. I'm letting you ahead of time, because I really believe that's awesome. That really is a great idea. That's why you will never get the belt. That's why you'll never get the belt, because you just you're just a knock -off wish version of Glick. He's got a tag team partner in his corner now for those cheat hits.
Speaker: Saturday nights, we had the flagship show, uh, open door challenge Saturday nights, non -physical nonsense. and which we and part of And it's a blast. It is. It is why I came to the network and Saturday nights is my favorite. I can just cut loose and let the shenanigans roll. Uh, no filter, maybe.
Speaker: And no no penises and no racism. ah no Zero slash penises, people. And then Sundays. i could pull I could pull a partner of mine right now, but I'll i'll leave it alone. to Don't take his material. That he might get mad at. I'm not doing his material. I just know what a friend of mine would say right now.
Speaker: Fair, fair. And Sunday nights, if it fits in your garage, it will fit in Jeff and Benji's mouth. Oh, you're going to talk about my penis? Oh, oh, wait. It would be a very short conversation, homie. So let's leave it at it. There's usually, there's usually, if you can usually find people in garages. So yes, Jeff's garage, maybe some penis talk. All right, I'm going to go ahead. i but God, see, this is why I can't go all night on a Thursday. Dude, drink a shot. Drink another shot. Drink a shot. You can do it. No booze tonight. I don't. I don't. Hold on. I got your back. I got your back. I got him. I got him. I don't i don't and don't have a shot glass. I will prepare you. I got you right here. Check it out. Because that that's that's our skit. OK. I got you covered. I'm going to let him take take a shot. Can I do my plug just to be fun? Go for it. Go ahead and plug.
Speaker: So obviously I'm not a, don't you shake your head. okay i'll yeah They will see it forever. Right here. No shameless plugs allowed on my network.
Speaker: i will not be No, nobody ever does that on somebody else's show. not ones No, i would I would never do anything like that. Now, obviously, I'm not a part of the nonsensical network, but we do collab quite a bit. And the gentleman has helped me know this one. Well, but I'm sorry. This guy over here has helped me out. I very much appreciate blazing. I appreciate it. Dude, I've had a blast on the show. um Yeah, thank you.
Speaker: Like I said, right now we're in the very early stages of our stuff. Everything we've been doing has been like open forum, but we are opening up and talking about different shows. Um, possibly doing like maybe an eighties retro. I'm definitely wanting to do, obviously I'm a big movie buff and we're, we're still discussing whether it wants to be movies or where I really Excel horror movies. Um,
Speaker: I'm what you know, we've we've got a lot of stuff coming up. We're going to be doing more shows in the near future. Hopefully a lot more collabs with you guys. Um, I got some stuff like I've been talking to this gentleman over here about, you know, but, um, our ours is Wednesday and Sunday nights. And unfortunately, you know, it kind of, I hate that it butts in with.
Speaker: You know your guys stuff, but you know our stuff is open for them. So we're always looking to conversate and you know converse I know it's a big internet world That's what it is over literally over 10 ,000 podcasts and there's no reason why we all can't try and get along in some way shape or form honestly 100 and that work is number one and yeah yeah Right now you but you also have a head start on us. So to be fair We are working on our stuff. Um Wednesday and Sunday nights. We are looking to do a lot more um screen Other than that ah Yeah i had a blaet And i I really appreciate you guys having me on here and I look forward to doing some more of this stuff again Really? I do. Oh, yeah. really Yeah, hey you go brother
Speaker: Thank you. proper Cheers. Cheers. Get off my fucking airwaves. Like he says, you have control over your power button. Not me.
Speaker: Do you have anything you'd like to say for me? This was cool. I'm glad I finally got to get on here with you and hang out. And, uh, you know, thank you, Bill, for coming in in short notice. Appreciate that, man. Greatly do appreciate that. Hey, appreciate the invite.
Speaker: Just check out the network. Just check out all the shows man. We got a lot of things going on here and check out our voice over at another shot. Show them some love as well. They're doing their thing over there. Yeah, just just keep enjoying what we're doing. Let us know what you like what you don't like and we're ever changing every evolving so. I want to go for it tagline tag it up. So.
Speaker: Obviously everything I say, everything that me and my partner who's usually here says, it is just our opinion. But then again, might be of the alcohol talking. It's definitely a ya alcohol talking. Usually it is for me, especially on Saturday night. go say saturday nights Saturday night blaze is awesome. Yes. this more movie What's that? Next time we do this, it has to be horror movies. We can we can work that in. So next week's going to be Deadpool, but I don't want every everybody to think it's just going to be movies and comic books. um I think the week after that, I'm going to do something. We're going to do something about AI, artificial intelligence and shit like that. Yeah.
Speaker: Just gonna fuck it in and it moves. um So with that being said, I want to thank all the audience for stopping by and enjoying. Remember these debates, discussions, they're not typical, they're nonsensical. And with that, let's roll this outro.
Speaker: This has been a production of the nonsensical network.
Speaker: Oh shit, there goes another bomb. Dude, you have the best intro and outro I've seen yet out of all these.
