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Crooked River Cast Show 2
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OHIO SB DEI bill is signed.
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts' Check-in
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Crooked Rivercast where we try to dive into the week's news and what's going on in Northeast Ohio. Today is episode of number four, March 29th, 2025.
00:00:14
Speaker
And I'm Rob coming from my my dungeon layer here and um with I'm joined by Tom coming from Northeast Ohio.
Jessica Simpson's Musical Evolution
00:00:24
Speaker
And how is Tom doing today?
00:00:26
Speaker
Pretty good. Pretty good. Trying to get up. Wake up. Well, like coffee number two for me, um hopefully at least number two for you. Yeah, I think I'm on three.
00:00:39
Speaker
extra caffeinated. How was your week? It was good. it was It was uneventful, mostly. That's good. Yeah, mostly. Mostly. But I did ah kind of a stumble on some new music that i that is not in my wheelhouse.
00:00:59
Speaker
Oh. So actually, do you remember Jessica Simpson? Yes. Okay. I never listened to her music, you know, and I mean, besides what was on the radio, maybe occasionally would hear it or on award shows or something like that.
00:01:17
Speaker
But she just came out with a new EP and it kind of blew me away. Like, what is she singing? Like, because she was pop, right? It was like pop.
00:01:28
Speaker
Yeah, it was, you know, bubblegum pop type of stuff, you know. I mean... She kind of, it's it's a little, she went, she went, she's in Nashville. She recorded, the the EP is called Nashville Canyon ah Part One. So i'm I'm actually hoping she comes out with a part two because it's like a five so five or six song EP.
00:01:49
Speaker
ep oh EP. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's how they do it nowadays. They don't, ah you know, how do you release music nowadays? Mm-hmm. But, um, she, it's on Spotify. It's called Nashville canyons and sir latest stuff. And it's
Culinary Experiences in Northeast Ohio
00:02:04
Speaker
really, really good. It's kind of, um, it kind of reminds me of like, uh,
00:02:11
Speaker
Early Sheryl Crow. it's ah It's a little bit gritty. It's kind of rock. It's kind of, um I would call it, it's like ah Americana.
00:02:22
Speaker
um Yeah, that's, that's i yeah I'm
Impact of DEI Bill on Education and Politics
00:02:26
Speaker
thinking those early early Sheryl Crow were, there they were fun. I mean, they were yeah yeah you know different. they were I thought the recordings of those early Sheryl Crow albums were amazing. yeah but I really, action ah yeah, unique sound, not unique, but maybe different for that time, but it was different for that time. And it was just like world-class musicians, you know, that I don't know, you know, i don't even know how to describe it because it's, um,
00:02:54
Speaker
its It doesn't really fall into rock or pop or anything like that. it's just Americana, I think is the best way to call it. yeah like and She's got about, out of those six songs, five or six songs, I forget, but there's about two or three real bangers on there that I think are amazing. It it reminds me of Shelby Lynn, too. I don't know if you're familiar with her.
00:03:15
Speaker
no but She came out around that um same time that Sheryl Crow was out. She's a real good, real, really real good singer from ah Nashville that, um, kind of does a rock R and B, bear kind of type of stuff.
00:03:32
Speaker
Um, that, uh, ah Sounds awesome. and Production-wise, it's great. Always looking for new music. you know Always looking for new music. I'm like listening to this stuff going, I can't believe I'm listening to Jessica Simpson.
00:03:46
Speaker
Hey. Yeah. ah you know You never know who, especially over time, people change. and She's in her 40s now. She took some time off from music. you she had like i think she had three kids. Family will change you.
00:04:01
Speaker
yep And, oh you know, she recently got divorced, I guess, from Eric Johnson, who was a football player. no um And, you know, wrote songs, wrote some songs. or I don't know if she's a writer with most of the songs, but she's singing songs that are kind of reflecting on what she did.
00:04:21
Speaker
you know Sounds interesting. I will check that out for sure.
Government Initiatives and Financial Discussions
00:04:25
Speaker
yeah um I just had a good fish fry the other day yesterday, so that was... Oh, cool. Where at? Antonio's Pizza.
00:04:33
Speaker
Oh, sweet. I'm sure a lot of Northeast Ohio, there's a lot of them. they Didn't you guys do the Antonio's Wall or something you were saying? We went to the Brew Wall. ah That was those one of those last week.
00:04:45
Speaker
yeah I think it's the same same idea, but we have a local Antonio's over here that we go to a lot. and We've only gotten pizza there until yesterday. oh and It was really good.
00:04:57
Speaker
Yingling Battered Haddock. Yeah, that's what I had at ah the brew wall. I thought it was pretty darn good. And a pierogi pizza. Oh, no kidding. Wow, that's dough on dough.
00:05:09
Speaker
So it's a chopped up pierogi put on top with cheese and onions. And it's very similar you ever have mashed potato pizza?
00:05:20
Speaker
Yeah. I think you have actually, because I think you've had it at my house. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's very similar to that. Not as, it wasn't no bacon and stuff like that, but it's, you know, has that similar, but yeah, there's, it's pierogies on top of pizza.
00:05:34
Speaker
That's yeah. That's awesome. um Sounds decadent. So it was actually pretty good. Yeah. um So what else? So I've got, we've got a lot of similar stories again, like we probably will do most weeks. um I mean, we can, we, I think maybe we should just touch on the DEI bill that DeWine signed.
00:05:53
Speaker
Okay. You know what? I didn't, he signed it last night, I think. Yeah. He signed it. um And I just ah was going through some of it and I think we should ask this for a lot of, even if it's for for a lot of legislation that goes through, regardless if it's your local city council or the state or or federal, is it is it good or bad?
00:06:18
Speaker
Even if I agree with it, is this good or bad? Because how many times, i know how a lot of times I've run across bills that you you know you come back years later and go, oh, that's a little unintended consequence.
00:06:29
Speaker
And as I dug into this a little bit and just saw some of the reports on it, some of this stuff kind of, some it was a little interesting to me. um And i thought maybe we can have a little explanation on the bill, on what the bill does, at least to what Channel 5 is saying they'll do.
00:06:48
Speaker
Let's use a little 20-second clip here. Backgrounder. Make sure I got the volume. There we go. This bill eliminates DEI to prevent against so-called bias on college campuses.
00:07:00
Speaker
This means no diversity offices, trainings, or scholarships. It also limits how controversial topics can be taught, and which includes politics and climate change. mix It also eliminates tenure for professors and prohibits faculty from striking. Okay, so the key for me in there is it limits how they discuss topics.
00:07:19
Speaker
This isn't true. yeah That was a false report um because they took out the whole ah the where they can't strike. So this this is either they replayed, you know, reposted an older or they're just up to date with it.
00:07:40
Speaker
report or or they're just not up to date with Hmm. That's the only thing that changed though. So the the rest of it, you know, so yeah, this, this is, I'm just looking at the article from the 28th posted three 47 PM last updated five. Yeah.
00:08:02
Speaker
The same day. So this is a current article, ah and even pulling,
00:08:09
Speaker
um You know, in the article they're saying it's a similar kind of thing. Bans DEI courses and statements tied to race or identity. It bans mandatory DEI training. Okay.
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00:08:23
Speaker
So that's all good stuff. yeah DEI courses and so or statements tied to race or identity. I don't know what that means.
00:08:34
Speaker
Right. That's kind of of things i I think generally it's it's going to be good because what they've been doing is feels like to me from what I've seen, they're almost discriminating against people who don't want to follow these DEI or use the pronouns or use um or go along with with equity and inclusion. so hopefully that's I don't see any negative um consequences right here.
00:09:09
Speaker
I don't, have you heard
Judicial Ethics and Traffic Legislation
00:09:11
Speaker
ah what people are concerned about? No. that Well, no, nobody knows what's going to happen because it hasn't, it's still got 90 days before it it goes into effect. Right.
00:09:20
Speaker
But when they start talking about limiting and, you know, I i know the source, so I'm not, I'm not taking it, you know, for word for word, but it does make me want to look in and say, and what does he mean they're limiting? I don't want them to limit what you talk about. I just want it to be free and open.
00:09:36
Speaker
You can still talk about these things, but, I think part of the problem is they were in a lot of colleges taking away or or limiting people from giving an opposite opinion or opposing opinion.
00:09:53
Speaker
So I just want to make sure we're not doing this. You know, um you know this is a bill I think that's good, but or could we be doing the similar things just on, but just because it agrees with our, are we talking about it being in the curriculum though?
00:10:07
Speaker
you know No, it's very general. i get that. That's kind of why i brought it up. It just says banning or eliminating how they can bring up certain topics. And that's where I'm like, what does that mean? I think that to me, that means the teacher shouldn't be bringing up any DEI or race type of issues.
00:10:24
Speaker
And you do mention political ah and in specifically climate change, like how they are allowed to...
00:10:31
Speaker
uh, you know, I, I guess I, I'm not trying to make a, you know, ah mountain out of a piece of sand here, but it, I think it's, I just, I always look at it like, okay, I like this bill, but let's take a, let's take the opposite approach to it and see what, what could be wrong with it possibly. Cause you know, you can go too far one way or the other.
00:10:54
Speaker
Right. I know what you're saying. Um, Just to keep an eye on a for it for I don't think it's. It would be nice to get an update, you maybe check back on this and end know in the fall.
00:11:05
Speaker
you know once so Once it goes into effect and see what what's actually happening, because a lot of it from right here is just you can still do these things. you just It's just not going to be funded by the school and state funds. Right. It's state funds and in federal now, obviously.
00:11:19
Speaker
um So I think teachers are still going to be able to talk about this and probably, you know, get um students involved in a conversation. um You know, the climate change thing, it's kind of like...
00:11:36
Speaker
I want them to talk about that. I just don't want them to push one idea. And that that's exactly what I'm saying. I want more discussion, not less, I guess. And when I hear limiting, um you know, that's from the article um in the classroom and limiting how controversial topics, quote unquote,
00:11:55
Speaker
ah can be taught. and Eliminating DEI would mean no diversity offices, no training, no scholarships, which I think is all fine. um I think that's discrimination in itself.
00:12:08
Speaker
um But, you know, just keep an eye on it. It also does something, they say something about ah the bill cuts unbridled ties with China, no more gifts or partnerships without strict oversight. t sell schools yeah tweets Tweaks house schools operate
00:12:26
Speaker
like shortening trustee terms and opening the door for three-year degrees, which sounds like good stuff to me. Yeah, I think overall it's good. I think, you know, ah bet I bet this is what's going to happen here.
00:12:41
Speaker
It's going to take effect. fall Fall is going to come come um the you know the next year's school. Yeah.
00:12:51
Speaker
ah season or whatever you call it. But ah it's going to come and it's going to, I bet you some of these things will go to court because it's not, like you said, it's not really all that clear.
00:13:05
Speaker
So um I have a feeling this will end up in the Ohio um Supreme Court and we'll, we I think, not the whole, you know, maybe not all aspects of it, but you know, Hey, can I talk about this or, you know, can I mention this even? Cause it is a bit unclear.
00:13:25
Speaker
And one another quick clip, because I'd like to know who, if this is the case. So just check this out. Let me see. I'm probably pulled this volume down a little bit.
00:13:34
Speaker
This is again, things that when I listen and read, they pop out and I pull them aside and I go, what what does this mean? So let's see here. And another part of this equation, you have spoken to and reported that professors have said that they may leave the state. Are lawmakers worried about losing educators?
00:13:54
Speaker
Lawmakers say that they'll believe it when they see it and that if any professor doesn't agree with their ideology, then they say they shouldn't be teaching anyway. Who's they?
00:14:05
Speaker
and who because Because if somebody's saying that, I would ah would take issue to that. Right. Just because your ideology doesn't agree with me doesn't mean you should go teach somewhere else. And they're funny that they don't say who it is and there's no clip of anybody because that would be a great clip to put up if if they had it.
00:14:22
Speaker
So as I assume they have no quotes or anything. It never happened. Never happened, yeah. it's And same thing where she says earlier in her in the clip – because they do mention about being George Soros funded protests and stuff like that and how the bill was very opposed by 1700 opposing and only 30 approving it or supporting it.
00:14:41
Speaker
um And she said, I talked to many, many students and none of them were getting paid. And I thought, okay, that sounds good. But if you think about that statement, Did you ask, did you talk non-students that were there?
00:14:54
Speaker
Cause those would be the ones that would be paid, not the students. That's a good catch. You know, that's a good catch maybe I should pulled that clip actually. So anyway, just, you know, it's, i think it's a good bill. I think we're we're going to see, and we'll give it six months and I'm sure, and they, they are going to, there are going to be lawsuits. They've already said.
00:15:13
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Yeah. That's going to go to the court courts. Um, And we won't know for a while because the school season is over. Yep.
00:15:24
Speaker
You know, coming to it. It's going to take place for 90 days. So by the next by the first ah semester um in fall, it's going kick in. We'll see what happens.
00:15:38
Speaker
I think this time next year is where we're, we'll know a lot more. Yep. Yep. right. Uh, onto the next one, uh, you want to pick or what do you got? What's, uh, what's on your list?
00:15:49
Speaker
Let's see.
00:15:52
Speaker
We have, they are trying to get Doge of Ohio going. And it's not quite like Doge, but it's it it sounds good to me.
00:16:06
Speaker
It's going to reduce the size and scope of state government, eliminates or reduces reckless or excessive spending, ah streamlines compliance time with regulatory agencies, and it reduces the tax burden Ohioans. I got a clip here.
00:16:22
Speaker
I'll play Ohio Republican House members put together a doge caucus, similar to Elon Musk's doge, but instead it's made up of about two dozen elected GOP officials.
00:16:34
Speaker
You know, I entirely support being more efficient and effective with our dollars. My only question is what took them so long to care about this issue. Republican House members were invited via this email on the condition that they pledge to introduce one bill every year that reduces the size and scope of state government, eliminates or reduces excessive spending, streamlines compliance or reduces the tax burden on Ohioans.
00:17:02
Speaker
The auditor of state has a similar job to make Ohio government more efficient, effective and transparent. Do you think it's redundant, given your job description there, to have a doge caucus?
00:17:14
Speaker
Absolutely not. um I think the legislature needs to, frankly, strengthen their oversight role. Do you think this caucus will actually be effective? I think the process of empowering the legislature to have meaningful oversight is priceless.
00:17:29
Speaker
Auditor of State Keith Faber has met with the Doge caucus once since they formed earlier this month. We certainly want to work with them cooperatively. While Faber tells me this caucus will enhance his role because lawmakers can turn recommendations into a reality, he says he will still go straight to the finance chair, for example, when needed.
00:17:49
Speaker
Most legislative caucuses like that are for sharing ideas. And as far as the man in charge of the state goes, Governor Mike DeWine tells me he's always supportive of making the government more efficient.
00:18:01
Speaker
Do you think it's a good use of time? think it's i think it's always something that we can, you know, find things and that would be productive. We'll see. First, you know, you know.
00:18:14
Speaker
Okay. Now, I don't know what happened there. I just laugh every time I hear him talk. Oh, the FUD?
00:18:26
Speaker
The FUD. so good. i mean So they're they're doing a caucus, and I see here they they got some stipulations on who can join and how that's what they're saying in the clip as far as. Yeah, so it's basically, it's not like, um you know, the Fed's doge where Elon Musk and his team are coming in and suggesting cuts.
00:18:44
Speaker
It's going to be more legislative. um but It's not outside. ah and People from from the outside come in. It's legislatures of Ohio. Just but just ah a legislature caucus. They do this all the time for different things.
00:19:00
Speaker
And these, you know we had them in the Senate, the Freedom Caucus and this and that. The Black Caucus. is kind of It's just a group inside of the state legislature, huh? That's basically it. And what they want to do is put, you know, put bills together, legislation together that will help reduce um and get rid of waste and streamline compliance time with regulatory agencies and and things like that. i i don't know if this is actually any good. Well, it's a good direction.
00:19:35
Speaker
is is it going to be any good, I guess? Is it, is it just, exactly is it just doing? Yeah. because it Yeah. So it's not positioning and it's popular right now. Right. And that, that one Democrat, I didn't get her name, but where where she says, you know, what took him so long to do this?
00:19:52
Speaker
Um, she's right. You know, I don't agree usually with Democrats, but she was right. Um, what took him so long? And I think it's just a popular thing right now. It's the MAGA movement.
00:20:04
Speaker
I, uh, I think what I really think is that it's, um, okay. We're, we got a new governor coming in. what Is it going to next year?
00:20:15
Speaker
ah believe so. Yeah. ah and next year Next year we'll be voting for him. Oh, in November, be voting. on yeah cover This year should be the early next spring should be the primary. And then, um, we'll we'll be voting. So in two, a year and a half or so, we'll have a new governor and I would rather have consultants come in and kind of like an Elon Musk,
00:20:37
Speaker
and And then maybe the the caucus look into it and decide what to do. Yes. So, yeah. Or if it's the right governor, you know.
00:20:49
Speaker
So this kind of ties into some of the stuff was really big on my list this week, which it's more cuts. I mean, it's the same thing we're kind of we talking about last week. Right. um Just getting a little bit more details. People are freaking out a little bit more over we don't what we don't know, basically.
00:21:05
Speaker
um And i don't know, because because there's there's they're talking about cutting education in Ohio. um and And then you start talking about the federal cuts that have been proposed.
00:21:17
Speaker
So it's definitely... it's, it's a movement. And I think people are really, it's really catching people's attention because, um, well, you know, and anybody with, uh, anybody with any reason should, should want, um, efficient government.
00:21:35
Speaker
I mean, none of us like to go to do anything that involves the government and, because it always takes too long, costs too much. Yes. And so yeah, I mean, like everybody should be on board with this.
00:21:50
Speaker
And it looks like, I think, you know, I think in Ohio it's it's going to be okay, but because you're not going to have much pushback is what I'm saying, I guess.
00:22:01
Speaker
So I guess we'll just segue right into the big in the news was food bank possible cuts. ah Medicaid possible cuts. um And right now... ahead.
00:22:17
Speaker
Oh, I didn't hear about the Medicaid possible cuts. I didn't hear what it involved. day So it Medicaid cuts... Where is it? Medicaid is
00:22:32
Speaker
I'm reading through my notes here. I was just pulled them up. There we go. So House Committee on Energy and Commerce um is ah the federal agency that the Medicaid is under.
00:22:44
Speaker
um According to the reports I'm hearing, just in our county alone, Cuyahoga County, 25 to 30 percent ah of people in the county rely on Medicaid.
00:22:56
Speaker
And basically they're rejecting cuts to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce of about $800 billion and cuts programs, which would affect the banks. um and cuts to snap programs which would affect the food banks um right now the Cleveland Food Bank covers Cuyahoga, Geauga Lake, Astrabula and Ashland and Richland counties. That's like six or seven counties.
00:23:23
Speaker
And it's set that, so they're saying the USDA through its commodity credit corporation has canceled 533,000 pounds food valued at $1 million that was supposed to be delivered by April and July. Okay.
00:23:40
Speaker
ah was supposed to be delivered ah april and july
00:23:44
Speaker
I don't have a reference. no mean It sounds like a lot, but it sounds like a lot. And they're saying it is a lot. Um, it's about a million dollars, right? It's it's million dollars worth of food.
00:23:55
Speaker
Uh, and that they're going to have come up with to find it. You know, that that's what they're saying, uh, as far as the food bank. Um, so maybe some real cuts coming. Um, On that, it it's also SNAP programs are talking about cutting, which is basically welfare.
00:24:12
Speaker
um But I think what I keep seeing is possible cuts, potential cuts could be cut. And what they're announcing is large cuts to these large organizations, the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.
00:24:29
Speaker
um how much of that How much of that House Committee on Energy and Commerce? Yeah. That's what Medicaid is under in the federal government. I got you. Okay. so So they want to cut that.
00:24:41
Speaker
They're anticipating cuts to that program or to that department of $800 billion. Okay. billion dollars And then I thought I put down where the SNAP cuts are coming from. Oh, yeah. House Committee on Agriculture is where like SNAP programs come from. So that's food welfare. That's ah food stamps um and and other things like that. They're projecting a $230 million dollars over 10 years.
00:25:10
Speaker
No, that's billion dollars. Sorry. $230 billion. now So total between these two departments is about a trillion dollars in cuts over 10 years. So it's over 10 years. And we're only talking about cutting the departments, not necessarily SNAP or Medicaid.
00:25:24
Speaker
Right. Yeah. and So, so it's again, people freaking out over, we don't know what. Right. And to your point, to the Doge angle, what I see is bringing somebody in who can, who has run a business, who has taken over businesses, who has saved the businesses or, or not just that outside look, for example, emails.
00:25:51
Speaker
How much a year does it cost for an email box? yeah it Do you have any idea? I have no idea. If I go get one myself, right it's probably $20 month.
00:26:05
Speaker
For a decent, you know, I could probably get cheaper. Like if you want a decent host, just a personal, a mailbox that's not Gmail, that's not Apple mail. That's not, okay see that's not a free one where they read it. So if you want to have your own mailbox through your domain registrar or whatever, it's about $20 a month.
00:26:22
Speaker
Let's say the government gets 50% off they get $10 a month.
00:26:26
Speaker
overall cost. You know, they probably do a lot of it themselves inside, ah self-performing all that, but it costs dollars a month for each one of those emails. Right. How many millions of emails in the federal government are abandoned?
00:26:39
Speaker
Oh yeah. Got to be tens of millions over the last 25 years. Yeah. Is it cleared out? Is it managed at all? Each one of those emails costs X amount per month. I mean, you could save 10, 20, 30, 40, I mean, hundreds of millions of dollars possibly just by cutting emails.
00:26:53
Speaker
Right. So I guess the point to say all that is there's plenty of places to cut these these departments where it won't affect Medicaid or SNAP.
00:27:05
Speaker
Right. Yeah. And people are freaking out. And that's why, yes, I think it's popular until it starts to cut into something that you rely on or that you're in favor of.
00:27:16
Speaker
Well, it' it's you know people are getting gas lit. Yes, that's good way. Yes. And I think we as informed people, the people who listen this podcast would be a little more informed than maybe some others to bring this up to people like, hey,
00:27:30
Speaker
If you don't think there's actually tons of fat to be cut, you're crazy because there's tons of fat to be cut from every single department. I think most people realize, but they get, like you said, they get scared because emotional they don't know what's going to happen to their dole, basically.
00:27:50
Speaker
Right. um And so did have ah did have a
00:28:00
Speaker
Yeah. so So the other thing is they're saying cuts to Medicare. And what so what what are the politicians? What's the state? I believe this is, yeah, this should be it. but Everybody's worried. there's There's studies this and studies that and possible cuts and possible this. But what are the Republicans saying?
00:28:17
Speaker
So it's passed the House. So if it passes the House, what's the Senate going to do? Let's see here. Senator Bernie Moreno tells me Medicaid cuts for him will be a non-starter. Republicans are not going to cut Medicaid benefits at all.
00:28:29
Speaker
He said there will be reforms to the system to make it more efficient and eliminate fraud. Republican cuts to Medicaid in the House won't be supported by his colleagues in the Senate. Anybody watching this broadcast do not does not need to worry about their benefits being cut.
00:28:43
Speaker
That is something we should not be doing is scaring people unnecessarily. Pretty definitive there. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's just like and in the federal government, ah you know, President Trump has been very...
00:28:59
Speaker
and you know, strong on that issue too. He's like, we're not looking for cuts on people's um livelihoods here basically. And, but the news keeps going with, you know, the scare tactic.
00:29:12
Speaker
um Yep. And same thing. I just want you to know what's the last thing we need right now, Tom, what's the last thing we need? I'll tell you, this is, this, this lady will tell you what the last thing we need is. because I had to pull this clip at least.
00:29:26
Speaker
The last thing our country needs is cuts to snap. It's the last thing we need. The last thing. The last thing. i cut the clip I cut a clip out, but she was at the beginning. im like, no, I can't get rid of that. That's too good.
00:29:40
Speaker
If I had to hear it 15 times, Tom's got to hear it at least once. The last thing. um So lots of fodder, basically.
00:29:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's just. ah So everybody just calm down. calm down yeah anybody listening to this that's uh maybe has a parent or friends that are worried about losing their benefits they should they they should talk to them and kind of put their minds at ease a little for the time being at least yes um but you know more of it to come but uh just just uh come a couple of stats um Real quick. 38% of Cuyahoga County relies on Medicaid. 38%. Uh, UH, Cleveland Clinic is the largest employer in the state of Ohio.
00:30:32
Speaker
And UH is the eighth largest in the state of Ohio. I did not know that. Um, it, it, and it, it kind of pulled it in because one of the, uh,
00:30:45
Speaker
one of the problems everybody's talking about is what happens with these cuts. And i have one last clip for the, for the day. And, I thought this was interesting.
00:30:57
Speaker
It kind of points to how tied we are and how reliant we are on the federal government.
00:31:04
Speaker
I think these budget discussions are going to be sort of tough. this is This is a tricky issue. Leighton Coup from George Washington University, helped by the Commonwealth Fund, just released a study that shows devastating ripple effects to governments, jobs, and taxes from big federal cuts.
00:31:22
Speaker
So first, who's the Commonwealth Fund? know. And what's what's their agenda? Because usually when you pay for a study, you you have an outcome that you want. But...
00:31:33
Speaker
um one of the, I guess, uh, gaslighting topics they're trying to is with these major cuts to federal government, you're going to have major layoffs.
00:31:45
Speaker
And to that I say, why will, I mean, really, they're going to cut some of the federal budget to Ohio and people are going to lose their jobs.
00:31:58
Speaker
didnt I mean, that's how big and bloated everything is. Yeah. yeah it and people just need to realize like there's so much fat let's start cutting it at least till it hurts all right definitely
00:32:14
Speaker
what is what do you want to go to next you want to go to the celebrities building you could uh yeah i think i'd want to they want to sell all these extra buildings Yeah. You know, uh, we kind of talked about it a couple of weeks ago. i think it was, uh, the fed, the federal government put out a list. I think it was like over a hundred buildings that were up. Uh, they were thinking about selling and, um
00:32:38
Speaker
I think there was seven in Ohio, one of them being Celebrities building. That's the largest, too. Largest, too. And it's not on the list anymore, but they're still talking about it.
00:32:50
Speaker
Yep, because it was on the list, so they're still talking about it. Right. And I guess, um holy crap. Oh, here we go. I'm sorry. Safari just did a weird thing here. Yeah, mine did too.
00:33:04
Speaker
So they, um yeah, so it's 1.2 million, just under 1.2 million square feet. It's the largest federal building. 32 stories, 59 years old. 12,000, there's ah like 5,000 people that work there or something crazy like that. 4,000 people that are government employees.
00:33:22
Speaker
um it it It houses the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, IRS, the VA, Department of Homeland Security, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, um and probably other things that weren't mentioned.
00:33:38
Speaker
Yep, those are the main ones. I know DOJ was there and then IRS. So they would have to do something with at least a large portion of these people if they sell the building. But maybe that's why they pulled it off the list.
00:33:50
Speaker
They might have pulled it off the list, but um our Congresswoman, Chantel Brown, one of my favorites, got a um got a letter from...
00:34:01
Speaker
somebody in the GSA general service administration that says they are thinking about, um, they're thinking about it. So they're not sure about selling it. That's probably going to go.
00:34:12
Speaker
They said it's probably going to go up for sale. Um, and my Mayor Bibb is losing it. And, uh, this Chantel Brown has lost her mind, but that happened a long time ago. ago yeah Um, so why, why do they say why they want to close it? Just,
00:34:30
Speaker
i just did yeah Yeah, it needs a lot of renovation. um But here's what i I think is going on. And maybe this, you tell me if this sounds like it makes sense.
00:34:43
Speaker
I think they might sell it and then lease it.
00:34:50
Speaker
Yeah. They can cut back a lot of government employees because if they have people work like maintenance crew that are in the, in the um you know, getting paid by the federal government, they can cut all that out and just pay a lease to a a management firm that takes care of the building.
00:35:09
Speaker
most Most large corporations, does it does make sense to ask your question, because most large corporations don't want to own everywhere they have buildings. Because then, for example, McDonald's, if I remember, I think it's maybe they've changed since the last time I saw this stat. But McDonald's makes more money off of leasing their land and buildings than they do off of making burgers.
00:35:31
Speaker
Right. They're one of the country's largest property holders. don't I don't know many corporations that own the building. Right. Right. They don't want you because they you become a property owner, but you became a property management company instead of whatever you're doing.
00:35:44
Speaker
Right. So I, that I, you know, i have a clip here if you want to hear more about it, but I was just kind of listening to this clip and, and they kind of go through it and and I'm like,
00:35:57
Speaker
Man, they never really mentioned this outcome. you know They just talk about cutting and all these people will be not have a place to go to work. and Yeah, I'm sure just going to close it down and and put signs up and go.
00:36:10
Speaker
Right. Well, I would like to know how many of them are actually working from home at this point. there's another There's another one. Because it said 4,000 employees, government employees. I'm like, well, you know nowadays, two there might be 2,000 that are still at the building.
00:36:26
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, nobody really says anything. At any given time, there may be a ah quarter or half of that 4,000, or they may all have offices there, right but they just don't show up every day. Exactly. So then they're paying for maintenance for a building that's not really used. it's It's an ad. I mean, I'm sure there There are offices that are used, but I don't i don't see this as... like They're just not giving you all the information to really you know. Yeah, let's see.
00:36:59
Speaker
So i'm going to play clip. They reported on the fact that the federal building downtown was listed on a federal website to be sold. That was then taken down. Since then, it has not returned to that page.
00:37:10
Speaker
And yet, Cuyahoga County, Cleveland Mayor, and Cleveland City Council all releasing statements today talking about potentially what could happen if it does go away. So this is what it looks like as of right now on the U.S. federal government's website, specifically that handle getting rid of certain buildings.
00:37:27
Speaker
You will notice on all the listings that are currently there, only about seven or eight buildings, all of them not in Ohio. Now, again, earlier in the month, there were hundreds of federal buildings listed. In fact, six of them, seven of them, excuse me, were in Ohio with the largest one throughout the entire state.
00:37:45
Speaker
That was the Celebrities Federal Building downtown, almost 12 million 1.2 million square feet. cover the covering the entire area, the largest building by far. So why exactly was that listed in the first place? And potentially, what could we be seeing from certain areas in our local governments? Well, it was placed on, again, the USGSA list that was in early March.
00:38:07
Speaker
This is a list that would look to sell properties that are, quote, unquote, not core to government operations. Right now, 4,000 employees are in that federal building. with the Department of Defense, VA, IRS, different ones like that currently in the area. So let's get to the statements from multiple sides on this. We'll go back to the Cuyahoga County statement. That shouldn't show up like that, but we'll move on here. The county has been in contact with federal officials.
00:38:33
Speaker
Cuyahoga County urges leadership to reinvest in the building to ensure that all federal jobs are retained in our urban core. Then Mayor Bibb releasing this statement. While GSA is early in the process of determining next steps for the building, it is concerning nonetheless. At this time, there's no indication that they plan to reduce staffing.
00:38:52
Speaker
But this then leads to the next question. If there is no indication that they plan to reduce staffing, and if it's been a couple of weeks since the federal building was on the federal website, Why they talking about why are we getting these statements now? This is something that we did reach out on weeks ago following when it was announced and then it was taken off.
00:39:10
Speaker
But it does seem like potentially there is a concern within Cuyahoga County and, of course, within the mayor's office that that building could be sold. Now, that doesn't mean it will be forever vacant, but sold to a different entity, which could mean that the federal workers in there potentially get moved somewhere else. A lot of moving parts. We have yet to see it reshow up on this website.
00:39:28
Speaker
Of course, if it does and we get any inclination that the sale will happen, We'll let you know first, both on air. Okay. Poor Mayor Bibb. He's just trying to save. That's all they care about. They just want to the tax, 4,000 people would leave if they so if they took those offices and spread them out throughout Northeast Ohio.
00:39:49
Speaker
And the city of Cleveland loses all that revenue. Or or they can they can sell it to a company, a management firm that takes care of the building. They lease it from them. And now you have 32 stories.
00:40:02
Speaker
What was it? 1.2 million square feet. And let's say they're only using, let's say 700 square feet now. Then have 700,000. Then you have another square feet you can be leasing to other businesses Yes.
00:40:17
Speaker
Oh, yeah. But that still involves reducing the staff in Cleveland, which is not what the mayor wants. So that's, I think, the biggest problem. Actually, I don't think it... Well, no well I mean, if you were to lower... If you were to get rid of... cut If you were to cut some of the staff there because of budget cuts and reduce the amount of building you need, then you... But they get then you say, ah but what if you fill the rest of the building? then you have yeah That's what I mean. It's like, it doesn't...
00:40:46
Speaker
there's There's nothing. there's no like They're just talking about nothing here. They have no clue what's going to happen. and i don't They're making a molehill or you know a mountain out of a molehill.
00:41:00
Speaker
This is actually probably probably a really good thing, um not only for tax dollars, but for um ah just the building in general.
00:41:12
Speaker
you know Because I don't know if you've gone to offices lately, but half the building is empty because people are working from home. So this could, this could change. This could be a really good thing for, for downtown. i i don't, I think mayor Bibbs are lightweight and he's just looking for a sound bites to put out sound bites.
00:41:31
Speaker
Yeah, I would agree. And I think, again, nobody knows. And just like some of the cuts we're talking about with education in the state, um there there's there there's less kids going to school. So you there's there's less need for these government employees at this building. um
00:41:51
Speaker
yeah, I think it's a good thing. It makes, it keeps, it keeps it, you want to be flexible. They can, they can increase or reduce staff and space that they need as they need it because it's, you know, they just lease more of it as they need it from whoever owns it.
00:42:03
Speaker
So, right. But yeah, it's gaslighting because they don't know what's going on and they pulled it off the website. They did. i but I, I guess, I guess I contacted, uh,
00:42:16
Speaker
contacted I don't know why would they send a letter to Chantel Brown? Maybe that's all BS too. yeah maybe She's looking for something to, um, cry about. Yeah. Maybe it's more of what you're saying. Well, we're not going to cut the whole building. We're not going to sell the whole building and renew, remove everybody from it, but we are going to reduce staff there.
00:42:32
Speaker
Maybe that's the, maybe that's the rub, i guess you would call it. Um, I guess. All right. Um, next on my list, I have a, uh,
00:42:46
Speaker
Well, there's a measles outbreak, Tom. Oh, okay. Hey, i got I got a pretty cool clip here. Oh, the measles outbreak? Okay, yeah. hi Peter.
00:43:00
Speaker
What are you doing home from school? They sent me home. Measles. That's either measles or a strange case of red freckles. you have got a temperature. They told me 101.1.
00:43:11
Speaker
What's the record? Never mind. oh Are you sure it's the measles? Well, he's certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots, and a great big smile. A great big smile? No school for a few days. pay a hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later. Okay.
00:43:27
Speaker
Okay, so that's... Oh, how it used to be. That's the good old days. Yep. You just brought your kid home from school, gave you some ice cream. Yeah, I actually remember watching that. i I mean, that was before my time, but... Oh, reruns, of course. Reruns, of course. Absolutely. Because I thought, man, I want to get measles.
00:43:45
Speaker
so Go on with what whatever you had. ah That was right along the lines that I was talking about. so um I got a doctor here, but it's a long clip. I don't know if you want to... Well, I mean, maybe the CDC says the best way to protect yourself with the measles and mumps and rubella is with the measles, mumps and rubella vaccines, um MMR vaccine that covers all three.
00:44:07
Speaker
um By the way, when I got the measles vaccine, it was just for the measles. Yes, it was. Yeah, right. Mine too. um um Two doses of the vaccine is about 97% effective. And one dose
00:44:22
Speaker
So they're warning you if you return from vacation to start feeling unwell shortly thereafter, it's possible that you may have been exposed to the virus. Okay. Possible.
00:44:34
Speaker
Possible when a large portion of people, when they return from travel, get sick because they're traveling. so freak out, everybody. If you're if you get home from vacation, you're sick. you You probably have the measles.
00:44:46
Speaker
At the time when I was looking this up, you there was result i'll there was an outbreak of 11 people in Nashtabula. all And seven of them from one guy. Yes.
00:44:57
Speaker
Yes. So they're they're freaking out about it. But you know what? i watched I listened to a couple of doctors and you know brought to you by Pfizer or Moderna whoever.
00:45:11
Speaker
um Vaccinate. Yes. not of vacc That's all they basically said was to get at vaccination. And we're not doctors here. We say talk to your doctor and ask them what's best.
00:45:22
Speaker
Absolutely. Everybody's different. I just want to wonder, were all these people not vaccinated? in Ohio, the 11, 12, whatever it is. Are they all not vaccinated? They never said anything about that.
00:45:36
Speaker
i think if they weren't, they may they they probably would have brought it up. That's just my thinking. Okay, so most um most but networks are about 70% of their advertising revenue comes from pharmaceuticals. So I think this is a story that wouldn't have been a story if if they weren't allowed to advertise on television or any number.
00:46:02
Speaker
So good I don't think this would have been a thing. And, you know, we're going to put this in the show notes. I'll send you the link, Rob, but there is and a website where you can go to, and if let's say you go to your doctor and this is something ah one of my coworkers taught, uh, told me about, because, um,
00:46:21
Speaker
his he had a he had you know He has four kids and his like oldest two, he didn't want them getting any more um vaccines. no He was already like, you know, they got all their vaccines when they were young. and now I think they're just about teenagers.
00:46:40
Speaker
And um he told the doctor, he's like, ah you know, don't bother with the vaccines. And she got really um you know, um mad, irate.
00:46:52
Speaker
Yeah. I rate, you know aggressive, you know, about, you know, getting the vaccines. And he kind of was like, what the hell's going on? And um he learned about a website and um you can go to, it's called open payments, data.cms.gov.
00:47:13
Speaker
And you can go in there and type in your doctor or, you know, your provider's um name and where they work and a bit of information, you could see if they actually get money from pharmaceutical companies.
00:47:28
Speaker
Oh, that's all disclosed, huh? Yes. So I typed it, I went in there and I kind of typed in my doctor's name and ah she didn't come up at all. So, um but when he typed in his doctor's name,
00:47:42
Speaker
um Yeah, it came up and he gave me a whole, you he didn't give it to me, but he he rattled off a bunch of things where she's getting money from. And he he understood why she got so so on irate about it.
00:47:56
Speaker
So um we're not telling you not to get vaccinated, of course. But if you're feeling like a little odd about it, like why your doctors, because... I had a doctor previously that would like get angry when I didn't want to get the flu vaccine or the flu shot.
00:48:11
Speaker
I mean, basically got angry. I'm like, you know what? I've had the flu a few times, one time really bad, but ever since it's always been, um, mild, mild, like, like a little bit worse than a cold. Yeah.
00:48:24
Speaker
And ah last maybe a day, day and a half. And I don't want a vaccine. Maybe when I get older, you know, I'm in my 50s and pretty good. Everybody has a different risk tolerance, as they may say. And you again, talk to your doctor.
00:48:41
Speaker
Yeah. do Do what you feel you need to do. just I just want transparency. i want I want all the information. I want informed consent. Yeah. And you want know think we're not getting that i want to know if your doctor's getting paid for a problem. And and this this doctor that he had, you know she took care of like a lot of the school kids. um So she probably got a pretty good ah kickback on that.
00:49:09
Speaker
It is very common I hear and, it is a revenue stream for a lot of doctors practice. Yep. And yeah, good, good. Yeah. Throw that. We'll put that in the show notes. Cause that's ah I wrote that down. going to look it up too, but that's a good, um, good website to just to keep in your back pocket.
00:49:29
Speaker
Yeah. just, uh, I just texted it to you. So, okay, perfect. Um, all right. And anything, uh, i got i got I got more Brown stuff um coming up. ah Marino.
00:49:46
Speaker
What's it? It's Marino, right? Our senator. Yeah, Marino. Marino, yeah. That's how I see it. Marino. ah he's I guess i got he's backing Ramaswamy for governor.
00:49:58
Speaker
Yeah, i just guess what like I got a flyer from Ramaswamy that was the size of a yard site. Well, it's like how we talk. There's all this information that comes out. You've got to go pause it and rewind three or four times.
00:50:13
Speaker
he's he's He's a front runner. Yesterday I saw a headline. I didn't read it yet, but I i Googled it it real quick. They were asking if Trestle is going to be running for governor. I guess he's denying he's running for governor. And I don't think he would have a chance to get against Ramaswamy.
00:50:31
Speaker
But I bet you Yost will still run. ah so we'll see. So yeah he's got that. That's a pretty big endorsement yeah for for him. So yeah, definitely the front runner.
00:50:47
Speaker
Maybe more, um you know, I guess keep coming back to the Browns, but it keeps becoming more information. it It's a large budget issue for the state of Ohio. They are currently arguing about what to do in Columbus. Right. Yeah.
00:51:03
Speaker
Um, and you know, there's one way they want to do the $600 million dollars in bonds. Um, and actually DeWine does not want that. DeWine's trying to, um, to get rid of that proposal and put his in, which is doubling the gambling tax and making a, a separate fund just for,
00:51:24
Speaker
um sports teams in Ohio. So he doesn't want to do the bond thing? He doesn't want to do the bonds. No, he wants to just raise taxes on sports gambling from 20 to 40%. Like the foot he is.
00:51:34
Speaker
Yes. And ah not sure which way, you know, which way is better. i don't know. I still... I still don't like the whole idea that they're going to give them money, but these are large buildings that do affect, you know, large parts of the city, a state and and counties and stuff.
00:51:53
Speaker
Also brought up to this is now that Cincinnati Bengals are talking about ah renovation to their, uh, Paul Brown stadium tickets. That's not Paul Brown stadium anymore, but, um, and that's a couple hundred million dollars they want.
00:52:05
Speaker
And they're going to want something from the city, from the state to help with that. Um, maybe that's why, um, DeWine is odd kind of changing. I don't know where he was. Where was he sitting at it with that? Did he change his mind on that? He doesn't change his mind on the and the Browns moving and building a new stadium. He just doesn't want to be funded that way. He wants it to be funded his way, which is the um just extra taxes.
00:52:29
Speaker
Right, but I thought he was kind of in support of the um bonds. No, think... no i think i think Um, no, I think he's been in support of, and i was kind of evident in some of the earlier articles I was reading a couple of weeks ago where he's for it, but it hadn't, they hadn't really separated on the two different ways. So he he's pushing his doubling attacks. And then another part of the Republican party is pushing the the bond issue.
00:52:58
Speaker
Um, the Browns are offering $38 million dollars to help secure some of those bonds. Um, and, part of the article I was reading that kind of brought this up is the Browns are one of the high executives on Browns hype executives on the, uh, there is this organization, a corporation, I guess it's called North. This just came up in 2023, North coast waterfront development corporation.
00:53:27
Speaker
So the mayor, Bibb, and city council um president, Blaine Griffin, um had proposed a meeting last week, I believe it was, to kick the Browns representative off the board.
00:53:39
Speaker
So this board was brought in to basically take a lot of the decision birding investigation over the lakefront development away from city hall onto to a separate entity.
00:53:53
Speaker
And this entity has worked, here's the quote, the nonprofit has worked with the city to secure $150 million dollars in federal state grants for major lakefront infrastructure projects, which are a part of an ambitious vision for making the land around the rock hall science center and stadium easier to reach.
00:54:14
Speaker
It's interesting. They're kicking him off. So they wanted to. That's what kind of that's where there are. This were lot of this information. This article that the they yeah they wanted to kick him off because theyre they want because they want to move.
00:54:25
Speaker
Yeah, but that that sounds idiotic. Yeah, so they actually delayed the meeting. So the whole part of the article was they punted on the Monday meeting um and pushed it off. They've been punting on the Browns for how long? There you go. So I guess they decided maybe that wasn't the greatest move.
00:54:42
Speaker
um They were kind of pissed because the Browns at the state legislature kind of kind of shit on their plans for the lakefront. Basically, they said they didn't have anything. There wasn't really nothing there of any substance or any legit offer. That's what the Browns kept saying, and I guess that kind of made the mayor mad probably.
00:55:03
Speaker
So this was kind of sound like, felt like kind of reaction to it towards that. um But what it also brought up was this, here's this North coast waterfront corporation that was developed ah a year or two ago. I think this is a year two, and all starting with $150 million dollars federal grant.
00:55:20
Speaker
um And they don't, they don't plan on doing any work for another two years. Right. so So it seems like a good gig, you ask me. um But, I mean, it's a different way to look at it because if it's been stuck at the mayor's office for years, let's pull it out.
00:55:37
Speaker
But who's overseeing these people? Um, but also on top of that is let's also like to bring up the new stadium would require new taxes on hotels, rent, cars, and parking in order to hit the, uh, projections of Browns are, uh, are, are offering or bringing it up. So, uh, it, it continues on. There's just this again, more, more mudslinging and, uh,
00:56:07
Speaker
and There is a movement, I guess, on the lakefront. It's just not fast enough. I'm calling Mayor beb lightweightite Bib lightweight from... Lightweight Bib, yeah. I like it.
00:56:18
Speaker
we can we can We can refine it a little bit and get something a little catchier. but ah ah Something with a Bib ah has to do, you know, like a kid's Bib or messy Bib or something. something um and I mean, that's kind of we kind of my my take of it was, um you know, browse maybe a little...
00:56:40
Speaker
A little heavy on their projections, but the city's still dragging their feet. so Yeah, so no not nothing really new, just some mudslinging going on, basically.
00:56:52
Speaker
No, mudslinging, yeah, the only thing really new is just Do I know actually he's saying something to wine? Yeah, there is a split in the state legislature where they're still arguing about because the the ah state budget's up for vote.
00:57:04
Speaker
And this is a large, a major um point of contention, I guess, in the Republican Party, which it's really what's decided because they control both both both House and Senate.
00:57:17
Speaker
And um and I just I just got this weird
00:57:24
Speaker
dirty feeling about the North Coast Waterfront Development Corporation. It seems like there's $150 million dollars slush fund sitting there, Tom. Yes. but in they're all getting paid.
00:57:36
Speaker
I would say they've had something like this for since I've been an adult. They've been talking about... I'm doing something with the waterfront for forever that I can, that I remember.
00:57:48
Speaker
so yep So what could cure it? Another government organ, a government agency. That's what always happens. Yes. ah And another mayor like we've been having.
00:57:59
Speaker
So it's not, that there's not ah enough money there. There's just no political will or, or thought process to do anything. but there's They have $150 million. dollars What do they do? They're just paying each other to talk about it for the next two or three years.
00:58:10
Speaker
Yeah. And like, but it goes back to where I said yeah Cleveland hasn't had a vision for what Cleveland should be since ever. Voynovich, maybe. Maybe.
00:58:21
Speaker
Hey, um can we take a quick break? Yep. Pause. We'll be right back. All right. um We are back. So um moving on to more maybe of a similar topic,
00:58:37
Speaker
I have, ah just started reading this this morning or last night. um There is a
00:58:47
Speaker
eight bill, i think, is it? Legislature is working on a way through the legislature,
00:58:56
Speaker
looking for a way to limit tax levies. Oh, I got a tax thing too, so we can hit that right after this. um So property owners and voters throughout Ohio could soon have one less ballot measure to worry about. a Legislation working its way through the legislature prohibits taxing entities from placing replacement levies on the ballot, and supporters believe the move could rein in tax increases as property values grow Um, so what they're trying to limit is, you know, just the amount of tax levies. It sounds like I'm just kind of unsure where, where local governments are supposed to get money from if they can't put levies. So it's basically nothing, not going to stop any continuing levies from coming up or stop any current levies.
00:59:44
Speaker
But what does is limit who and what levies you can, new levies you can put in. So it's house bill 28, it says. Right. right Of
00:59:57
Speaker
yeah course, proponents are saying it's misleading and could result in tax increases, which I say, but the levies result in tax increases too. So I don't know.
01:00:10
Speaker
I thought this was something interesting to watch um how this is going to go through.
01:00:17
Speaker
But it has been real unconstitutional how they collect property taxes for in Ohio for schools and such a couple of times. So something to look out for. What you what's, what's on your, uh, well, Ohio lawmakers look to eliminate highest income take ah tax rate, uh, switch to flat tax, but it's not, it's not the way, uh, it's not what you would think.
01:00:45
Speaker
Oh, of course. Um, I don't, yeah, I don't have a clip. for it or anything like that, but it's, it's a article, um, a channel eight article, uh, by Kevin, uh, something like that.
01:01:03
Speaker
Um, anyways, Ohio lawmakers look to eliminate the highest income tax rate and switch to a flat tax of 2.7%. So right now, if you make zero to 26,000, you get zero, um, percent. Um,
01:01:16
Speaker
26 to 100,000, the rate is 2.75 and 100,000 plus. 2,394, 32 plus 3.5% over 100,000. And actually up to 100,000 is $360 plus 2.75 over 26,000. and a hundred thousand plus it's twenty three hundred ninety four thirty two plus three point five percent over hundred thousand and and actually up to a hundred thousand is three hundred and sixty dollars plus two point seven five over um twenty six thousand So what they're proposing is um, 0, 26, 700 is 0%.
01:01:48
Speaker
And. zero twenty six seven hundred is zero percent and Oh, this is for 2025. I'll just skip to 2026. This what they're proposing for 2026. 0 to 27,000 0% and 27,000 plus $378 plus 2.75 over 27%. The 27,000, 3,500. Yeah, 27. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:00
Speaker
zero to twenty seven thousand is zero percent and twenty seven thousand plus is three hundred and seventy eight dollars um plus two point seven five over twenty seven per percent ah twenty seven thousand three five hundred yeah twenty seven ah yeah It's weird. So you pay a flat tax of $378.69. mean, this the way through the... They're considering the $2.75 flat tax, being that it's $2.75 for everybody, right? Yes.
01:02:25
Speaker
Anybody, yes. But I don't think that saves people making over $100,000. they're considering the two point seven five a flat tax being being that it's too two seven five anybody for everybody right yes anybody yes but i don't think that saves people making over a hundred thousand Anything.
01:02:43
Speaker
Because ah maybe if you're... I mean, you know, if if you're making... If you're making like... but You know, I would have to ah sit down and figure this out.
01:02:54
Speaker
But if you're making over $200,000 probably, it saves you money. But if you're making $115,000, I don't think this saves you... Oh, I see what you're saying, yeah....much of anything. Because if you're making $102,000... does. It could. you're making $102,000...
01:03:08
Speaker
it it could if you're making a hundred two thousand
01:03:13
Speaker
It does save you money because it stays at 2.75. now it goes 3.5 over $100,000, whatever make over. So you $115,000, you're getting taxed 3.5 for the $15,000. over ah hundred thousand whatever you make overall so if you make hundred and fifteen thousand you're only you're getting text three point five for the fifteen thousand Not the whole. I see. if you $100,000 year, right now, you are paying $2,394 2024, which similar. 2025 similar. 2024 right the last calendar would if you make $100,000 year, you $2,394 plus $2,394.
01:03:44
Speaker
for two thousand and twenty four similar two thousand and twenty five is similar um so two thousand and twenty four right now for the for last county year you would pay if you make one hundred thousand dollars a year you'd pay two thousand three hundred and ninety four dollars plus Let's just say you made $100,000.
01:03:59
Speaker
You'd pay $23,94, $2,394 and change. Yep. In Texas, because you made $100,000. Right. So you made $100,000... Yeah, sorry. So that's $100... If you can make up to $100,000, you're rated... This over $100,000. Right. So if you made $100,000... if so if you made a hundred thousand yeah sorry so that's a hundred if you you can make up to exactly a hundred thousand you get you're you're rated this is over a hundred thousand right so if you made a hundred thousand You would get that $23.94 plus change plus 3.5%. Anything over $100,001. would, you know, for that $1, you'd get...
01:04:28
Speaker
anything that anything over a hundred thousand one so you would you would um you know for that one dollar youd you'd get you know the 3.5%, but you would have to be paying that 23, almost $2,400. But if you just made the 101,000, which is just for example, for comparison, because you do at some level, you're going to pay more.
01:04:52
Speaker
It looks like because if So you're getting $2,400, let's to round right the new one, would paying almost $3,000. So you'd be paying 2.75% on your 100 grand plus the $378, which would put it $3,000. almost three thousand dollars so you'd be paying two point seven five percent on your hundred grand plus the three hundred and seventy eight dollars which would put it at three thousand dollars No.
01:05:12
Speaker
Right? Because 2.75% out of $100,000 $2,700? Well, you're still going to be paying that $2,000. I don't know. Maybe... I think when you're at that, when you're right at $100,000 or maybe right around it, you may be paying a little bit more because if you were just at $101,000, you'd only pay $2,400. Right. But now you're paying $2,750 plus $3.79. So you're paying...
01:05:31
Speaker
twenty seven fifty plus three seventy nine so you yeah But the the savings really is if you're if you're making $200,000, you're now making a $2.75 flat instead of $2,400 plus 3.5% on the asset.
01:05:48
Speaker
It is helping out the people that are like making probably $1.50. It is not a flat tax. Yeah, no, this is not a flat tax. So I don't know why they're calling it that. A flat tax would be 2.75% on zero to infinity. That would be a flat tax, at least in my opinion.
01:06:04
Speaker
Well, I always considered flat taxes being a more of a consumption tax rather than a tax on your income. ah Yeah, flat income tax, I guess. Yeah. But I think the whole point of the flat is it's it's the same for from the person who makes $1 to the person who makes a billion dollars. It's the same percentage. It's flat all the way across the board. I think that's that's how I saw it.
01:06:26
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think this is helping any you know any of the people that are like under $150.
01:06:33
Speaker
No, probably not. you know, in fact, it might be detrimental. Well, no, I mean, if you're, yeah, no, it's going to be more. Yeah.
01:06:43
Speaker
Yeah. At some level, it will. It always is kind of when you hit that, and when you're on the tiered thing, like, like our, even the federal system, if you, you, when you just tick into that high tax bracket, your tax, your, your, your check will go down.
01:06:56
Speaker
you You know, but I didn't pull any of the articles. And I want to keep an eye on this. um That's why I didn't i didn't have time. this I saw this late last night. Anyways, ah the articles, i the headlines were hilarious.
01:07:11
Speaker
Librarians and teachers will be paying the same much, just as much as CEOs and, you know, the wealthy. The rich guy.
01:07:21
Speaker
Yeah, the rich guy. But which which is phony baloney. Yeah, because they can afford, the rich people can afford the people who are smart enough to get them around most of the taxes.
01:07:32
Speaker
Well, that, yeah, there's that, but there's always that. yeah But at the same time, it's like, well, if you're not making as much, you're not going be paying as much. You're maybe the same rate, but you're Yeah, and that's kind of the key to a flat tax is everybody pays the same percentage.
01:07:46
Speaker
Right. What people don't like is... um they find that as not fair because they make more, but they should be paying. Yeah. It's, it's convoluted.
01:07:59
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Definitely something to keep an eye on. um I'm just kind of skimming through the article here. Flat tax, a flat tax is a handout to the most well-off among us.
01:08:10
Speaker
Well, hot is, uh, Yeah, a handout. Bailey Williams, who is... oh tax policy reacher at Policy Matters Ohio. Yeah, a handout to the people to the people that actually hire people, that employ people.
01:08:27
Speaker
yeah To people who create wealth. Yeah. Help create wealth wealth. Help create wealth, yeah.
01:08:35
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:38
Speaker
So there's that, which I think is something to keep an eye on. i but don't care The final thing I saw was that, it you know, they're calling it HB 30, House Bill 30. So it hasn't gone to the Senate yet.
01:08:54
Speaker
But, you know, with if it's got enough Republican support, it's probably going to pass both. This would be the perfect time to do it because that's <unk>s kind of the trend.
01:09:05
Speaker
Yep. This is fiscal responsibility and all that stuff, so which is good. All right. We are... running down the list here.
01:09:17
Speaker
um i thought i mean I thought it would be good to bring up Judge Celebrese. i Go for it because I didn't get a chance to really dig into this, but from what the little bit you told me, i mean i'm interested. so Judge Leslie Ann Celebrese, what?
01:09:38
Speaker
Let me preface this with i think ah yeah I've only served um jury duty once
01:09:47
Speaker
But I got to say, um i think I dealt with about four or five different ah judges. And they, i would say most of them I thought were awful.
01:10:04
Speaker
So, um yeah. yeah on that dog I don't have a good place in my heart for judges in Cuyahoga, at least. Yeah. So I guess there has been some investigations going on with which Judge Leslie Ann Celebrese. So she is officially now admitted in court records to steering lucrative work to her longtime friend, in quotes, Mark Dotter.
01:10:32
Speaker
Dotter. Dotter. And previously she was denying this from what I gathered. Denying it that she did any, any steering. Um, but, um, Celebrities has now, uh, conceded, to being in love, uh, with him, with Matt,
01:10:52
Speaker
And assigning him ah receivership cases that allow him to bill wealthy divorcing couples for handling their finances while their cases are pending. So he's a financial guy and she's sending cases his way.
01:11:06
Speaker
um there's There is a supposedly a system in place that makes sure this gets spread evenly throughout the court so there is no favoritism and somehow she's got around that. um so But this is something that's going on for years um and they said that these connections have been raising questions about potential case steering dating back decades.
01:11:28
Speaker
including And then there's a little note that says including regarding Celebres' father and I said Huh? So ah she took over the the seat on the bench when her father retired.
01:11:40
Speaker
Now she was voted in, but was she voted in because her last name is the same as her father's and nobody knew? Most people didn't know the difference or... if you if you what If you pay attention to the judges being elected in Cuyahoga, I would say half of them don't have somebody running against them is one thing. And then if you really look into it, the ones that do win are the ones that have of backing, that have um somebody somebody's ah funding their campaign, and you're probably only seeing that name.
01:12:19
Speaker
and not the person that's running against them oftentimes. So, yeah, so she took office in 2009 after replacing her father, James Celebrese. He served nearly two decades.
01:12:31
Speaker
This is on the domestic relations court. And he spent two decades on the domestic relations court and two years on the Ohio Supreme Court. James Celebrese did. So... um By the way, are they related to Anthony Celebrese? I...
01:12:47
Speaker
um i I don't know. it's a that's That's another thing. Everybody knows that name. because you know so you know Not only was her father there for a long time.
01:12:59
Speaker
But she's there and you put celebrities on a and a campaign sign and people are just oh, it's the same guy who voted for last time. i'll just yeah He's been there for a while, so I'll just vote for that. Yes. um but And it's how, yeah know it's how the area has been run by one, one party heavily for decades at a time.
01:13:18
Speaker
um That's a good question. and probably, um so they, they are currently under investigation by the FBI and there is a grand jury criminal investigation of the FBI, I should say going on right now.
01:13:31
Speaker
um And it does not look good. Cause it looks like from some of the article that I was reading, um you know, eight out of 10 cases got pushed to this guy and that they just could be doing nick've been doing it for 10 years.
01:13:47
Speaker
so Really? That whole time? um Yeah. that Well, let me, definitely for, um there's there's actually, they're bringing up possibly her father doing similar things for decades.
01:14:04
Speaker
Oh, really? Yeah, so it says, for years, these these connections have raised questions about potential case steering dating back decades, including regarding Celebrese's father. Oh, it makes me even want to be on a ah jury duty, do jury duty even more now. Yeah. Right.
01:14:21
Speaker
Um, so she approved, ah yeah. So here's it. So she approved nearly $500,000 in, in fees for this Matt daughter, uh, for his company, Matt daughter companies, LLC, uh, between January of seven, 2017 and June of 23.
01:14:38
Speaker
Um, this is reported by the Marshall project. Um, So the judge appointed either daughter or his daughter to be receiver in six of the eight cases Celebreze was handling at the time, according to the Cuyahoga County court records.
01:14:59
Speaker
So either daughter or his daughter. Or his daughter. Were getting six out of eight cases, ah according to this one report. ah Court records, I should say, not in this report.
01:15:09
Speaker
So, yeah, it was... um
01:15:13
Speaker
so like ah you know So a lifelong friend until until she got busted with and a private investigator recording videos the two of them kissing outside the steakhouse. Outside a steakhouse and celebrities visiting daughter's home and office numerous times.
01:15:29
Speaker
Each had denied a romantic relationship. So at this point, she has not been indicted by the FBI or by the federaled feds. have Has she? They're under investigation. They have not been indicted yet.
01:15:39
Speaker
Okay. So i yeah if if this does go to ah a grand jury, then then she's she is paddling up a creek. Oh, yeah. So, HAL Disciplinar Council then launched an an investigation in November of 24. So, it's going on about six months.
01:15:57
Speaker
Oh, so they did get a ah jury subpoena to to start gathering information. That's what the white court indictment. enjoy Probably pre, pre, this is pre indictment stuff. so yes i Yeah.
01:16:09
Speaker
yeah That tells me they got a lot on her. So they got enough to get a grand jury to start investigating. Yeah. So there's at least that much. yeah something I mean, she's admitted to it at this point. So there's probably a lot more.
01:16:19
Speaker
Yeah. ah She's not going to be a judge next year. No. So might there'd be open seat on the, uh, somewhere. I don't know. it Besides this, I don't know anything about her. i She wasn't up for, um,
01:16:32
Speaker
election this past, um, in 2024, as far as I know, cause I don't remember seeing her name. Yeah. I recognize the name, but it's probably cause of her dad and whoever else. I mean, it's just, yeah. I just, cause I, I did, I kind of went through the, I've, uh, I did vote for the judges this, this time.
01:16:53
Speaker
If they had somebody running against them, I did. And i I looked into each one a little bit, Or enough to gather, you know, to kind of know what their values are. Yeah. And I don't remember seeing her name. So I don't know how the judges work if like boy what cycle they're on.
01:17:15
Speaker
As far as how many years they serve before another election. I don't know if they're two or four. I don't even know. i don Yeah, I don't know. i't i just don't remember seeing her name. All I know is all the all the judges that I voted for didn't get it didn't get elected. so So I see on your list legislation that would restrict the use of traffic cameras heading to governor's desk.
01:17:41
Speaker
And I saw something on your list about speeding tickets. Yeah, there that was, they're just taking up more.
01:17:54
Speaker
um, safety corridors that they're calling in which is always fun. But yeah, they're, they put one in, ah they're gonna do higher, um, patrols or, um, I guess looking for speeders between, uh, East 55th and 200 East 260th street on I-90, uh, I guess high traffic area. So and they're just letting people know they're going to be out there in force.
01:18:16
Speaker
So next they're trying to do, um, There's 60 days that we're 60 days away from, from the deadliest hundred days of travel. Right. Summer.
01:18:27
Speaker
In the summer. Yeah. So, um, one so this is a, this is the Ohio state patrol, right? Yes. I believe it is. Yeah, it should be. um So can you say the area is going to as a PSA? Yeah. So it would be, there's eight miles stretch between East 55th Street and East 260th Street on I-90. They're calling it Cuyahoga County's I-90 Traffic Safety Corridor.
01:18:54
Speaker
Okay. Cracking down a reckless and distracted drivers plus speeding and all that other stuff. It's a high traffic, a high accident area apparently. Okay. So everybody be aware and slow down because it's easy to ramp up to, you know, 80 miles an hour there. I see it all the time.
01:19:11
Speaker
It's my daily route. Yeah, you get you get her around Deadman's Curve there and start heading east and pedal to the metal. Yeah, and when you're when you're heading back, when you're heading west on 90, look out.
01:19:22
Speaker
um I always see them right around the Burke Lake area. ye um Kind of hidden. and And also in the when 90 splits off from two,
01:19:36
Speaker
um If you head straight on two where where the, I think it drops down to 35 miles an hour, it's easy to be um you know cruising along at 60 right there.
01:19:49
Speaker
And they're not hidden. That's one thing I got to say about the troopers. I don't really see them hide off and they're right in the open, but it'll catch you off guard still. Except the one in 77 North.
01:20:02
Speaker
What's that? 77 fleet. by fleet Oh, that's and but that's a city cop. That's new as Newberg Heights. that's that's height Those are city cops right there. And I have my opinions on those guys.
01:20:17
Speaker
who so Definitely for safety. has nothing to do with revenue. It's generating revenue. That's why we hide. We want people to slow down. Well, you know, if you stay out in the open, people will slow put car there. don't have to do anything. People slow down.
01:20:34
Speaker
Yeah. But anyways, ah yeah, so be careful around that. Those areas. i What I had was ah um like Ohio State Legislature wants a put a bill out there that prohibits traffic cameras. But it didn't I don't know how much this really does because this prohibits um cameras in counties and townships.
01:21:03
Speaker
Now, what I don't understand, because cities and villages would still be able to continue um with the program, thanks to the right to self-govern. um So you know in 2017, the Ohio Supreme Court found laws restricting cities' use of traffic cameras violated the Home Rule Authority. So- so I don't drive around townships, I guess, enough. And I don't know where in counties there are cameras. I mean, I guess, I suppose there is, I guess, it prevented I guess if you go into counties that are, um you know, rural, more rural, because cities are still able to use um ah cameras for red lights and other violations.
01:21:49
Speaker
So it's maybe the Cuyahoga County can't put one up, but but the city of X, Y, and Z you could put one in. Right, exactly. so But where in Cuyahoga County, isn't there a um ah city or a village? I mean, there there might be. there's there's probably there's like there might be a Because there is like Hinkley Township.
01:22:09
Speaker
But that's Medina. That's actually Medina County. So that's a township already. I can't think of a place. I guess rich Richfield Summit, so I don't – maybe Kirkland or something like that has a te more of a township than a –
01:22:29
Speaker
than ah any city. don' i don't know. there There might be one or two places where this will impact Cuyahoga.
01:22:38
Speaker
24 municipalities in Ohio run traffic cameras, most of them in the north of the state. um There's Bryce. The village of Bryce is the only municipality that uses traffic traffic cameras. Since Bryce is not a township or county, it would remain unaffected the budget bill.
01:22:59
Speaker
But here's something interesting. In 2019 2020, Bryce generated about 80% of its total general fund revenue from traffic camera tickets. Yeah, that should be illegal.
01:23:11
Speaker
Wow. I mean, they probably don't have a large budget, but... but that's like Newburgh Heights. Yep. Of course they don't have, they they probably don't have much tax revenue because who's, who you know, they probably don't have a large population, but I mean, they're, they're basically using this. is I always look, I always view it as cities that do this or villages that do, um, the speed traps.
01:23:37
Speaker
I don't, you know, and here's the thing. i don't mind if a cop is out in, in, um, out in invisible to the traffic. But when when they're hiding, that that trip bothers me because that's just a speed trap.
01:23:52
Speaker
And that is just to generate, they don't care about people slowing down. That's what they tell you, but they really don't care about you slowing down. They are generating revenue and that's all they're trying to do.
01:24:03
Speaker
and um i I find those cops to be disgusting. I mean, is that really why you became a cop? Yeah. um So from 2015 to 2020, the revenue was $2.3 million. dollars This is for Bryce. 100-person village. 100-person village, according to audit in 2022. It's basically nobody from that village.
01:24:28
Speaker
What are they doing with this money? Yeah. Yeah. And um the tiny village is a speed trap repellent. and automated speed citations to pay the bills. as A speed trap.
01:24:41
Speaker
It's speed trap. Reliance, not repellent. Excuse me. Yes. Thank you. That didn't make any sense. um So things like that, if you ask me, it's just and it's just another tax on citizens.
01:24:53
Speaker
It's not really anything more than that. Remember years ago, they first started putting these in in Cleveland, the city of Cleveland, And there was a mayor. Oh, I forgot her name. Just her, so there hasn't been that many female mayors, so i can't remember her name. Was it East Cleveland?
01:25:12
Speaker
No, it City of Cleveland. And she put in... female mayor? Yeah. They... yeah um they
01:25:21
Speaker
Yeah, they put in traffic. Because I remember they came people were protesting or or ah griping against it. And she had come out in ah in a newscast or in a speech somewhere and said, yeah, we we're doing this for revenue. And then someone brought up there's a ah law that you can't do this for revenue. And she came back. I mean, I meant it's for safety.
01:25:38
Speaker
yeah that that might have been a whole big that might be right it was you're right yeah youre right yeah because i i work near ah in the east cleveland so and i remember there was a ah red light camera going up yeah right close to where i worked and i was and then had never happened the truth came out yeah yeah truth squeaks way out sometimes yeah um oh so good maybe uh maybe this will help i'm just not
01:26:04
Speaker
it's It's not the bill we would want to see. which put that No, no, it's it's not. It kind of takes some of the power away to make new cameras or put new cameras in. but Yeah, maybe some of the in incentive.
01:26:17
Speaker
It's vague. Very vague. It doesn't really do anything. it's it's a ah it's This is a um transportation budget bill. They're including it in there, but I don't think it's going to do much of anything.
01:26:31
Speaker
so And DeWine can reject certain portions of it too, within legislation. So he could always just redline it. It doesn't look like it's gone to the Senate yet. So we'll see. I'll keep i'll keep an eye on it.
01:26:47
Speaker
All right. It's about, I mean, I, there's more stuff, but it's up to you if you want to keep going. i mean, oh there's one more thing. I think. Yeah. Some, somebody did some bad stuff.
01:26:59
Speaker
There's some rainbow colors. Well, hate crime. There's been a hate crime. Like you wouldn't believe here. Let me play a clip.
Community Reaction to Vandalism of Rainbow Crosswalk
01:27:08
Speaker
It's a crosswalk meant to promote inclusivity, but it's been defaced.
01:27:13
Speaker
Those we talk to say, well, it might mean like nothing to some. It screams a powerful message of hatred. In 2020, hatred, powerful message. Brushed select streets in Cleveland Heights.
01:27:26
Speaker
It's to symbolize the city's backing behind the LGBTQ plus community. Here in Cleveland Heights, all are welcome. So you are, you're supported. But something meant to incite positivity has now been defaced with white spray paint.
01:27:40
Speaker
It's designed to intimidate us, but it also makes me very angry. um It's, it's a, this seems like minor vandalism, but it's the tip of the iceberg. The conservative agenda wants to weaponize fear. And we're one of the scapegoats in this country. Cleveland Heights Councilman Jim Petrus trying to tell away the harm. Some types of spray paint can be removed with detergent. And so I found a bottle that was almost empty, added some water, came out here. i Just tried my best to scrub the spray paint off of the sidewalk. Why do you gay guys have to be so gay?
01:28:14
Speaker
Why you guys try to scrub? I could play the rest of it, but I won't. I got one more clip here I'll play that's um it's pretty funny here. crosswalks like these can be found all over Cleveland Heights, a strong representation of the city's LGBTQ community.
01:28:33
Speaker
Now this crosswalk was recently vandalized, putting a bad taste in the mouths of not only community members. I think they have a bad taste from something else. But also city leaders. To even think about that, it hurts because nobody should have to go through that and we deal with it every day.
01:28:50
Speaker
That right there, enough is enough. Deshaun Harrison says he's disgusted with what's happened. He says every day he looks forward to walking past this rainbow crosswalk. He looks forward to looks forward to it because that's all I wanted to play.
01:29:07
Speaker
That's sad. He's so angry. i When I watched the video, I thought he was going to beat her up. He was so angry. Uh, so and anybody that hasn't seen the video of this, it's just a crosswalk painted in rainbow colors. And somebody took a, uh, a white spray and just sprayed some white squiggly marks on it.
01:29:30
Speaker
Um, and, and the, they're making a big deal. that I don't know. They're making a big deal out of this, which I, I don't, I don't think anybody should be doing that, but, uh, no, they they are They do repaint this um every spring.
01:29:45
Speaker
So, you know, it's... I don't think anybody should be vandalizing ah a mural on the you know on the side of a building or anything like that, which people do all the time for no apparent reason, just for the hell of it, which is more than likely what happened here.
01:30:00
Speaker
um and I don't know if if anyone's seen the pictures of the guy that... I was watching, i think, nineteen Cleveland 19, and they're saying... They got a good look at this guy, and it's and the the other thing is the campt the police won't say where they got this footage or these these screen grabs from of this guy, but it's a side profile.
01:30:20
Speaker
you You can't tell who it is. It's got a browns jacket on and a browns hat. He's got a hoodie, a browns jacket, a cap. All you can see is that he's he's got some brown skin.
01:30:33
Speaker
Yep, that's it. And he's got a great track suit on, it looks like. Yeah. But... More than likely, it's nothing to do. He saw something he wanted to vandalize, i think. maybe Maybe not. i I don't know.
01:30:48
Speaker
I mean, if they find somebody or they find the person that actually did it, I guess that's good. i don't want anybody vandalizing. do some Do some community service.
01:31:01
Speaker
I don't think and they should should be painting rainbow on the sidewalk anyway, or as a crosswalk, because it's a safety issue, in my opinion. should be yellow or or a reflective white or green.
01:31:14
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, i i never thought about it that way. I don't think they should be painting it at all because it is our tax dollars. But, um you know, if if there was an organization that generates, you know, that got got donations for this and they asked the city to do it, then I'm okay with that.
01:31:34
Speaker
Yeah, but i I don't guarantee there's city funds behind it. I don't really care that that I'm I don't know exactly what what a street this was on. It's in Cleveland Heights. Yeah. And ah if it's apparently they're everywhere in Cleveland Heights. I guess so. And, you know, you got the art museum there. yeah i mean, it's it doesn't really bother me that it's there.
01:31:55
Speaker
No, it doesn't. anyway yeah just i just I think it's more of a, yeah, it's more entertaining. The interviews are entertaining. The interviews are very entertaining because they're talking about rage and hate. It's horrible vandalism as I heard. It was horrible vandalism. Yeah. Kind of almost as bad as ah King Tesla's.
01:32:17
Speaker
Or shooting at them or lighting them on fire and whole dealerships on fire. It's the same. so ah Yeah. But it's a story. I guess they have to do that.
01:32:30
Speaker
Yeah. It's not a story. It's not a story. That's kind of the whole story of it for me. It's not a story. Hyperbolic. Sensationalize it a little bit.
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01:32:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
01:32:41
Speaker
Um, so I guess that wraps up today's episode. Uh, we're at, we're at, Oh, just over an hour and a half. So we're good. and We put our due and our time in, um, anything, there's nothing else you want to talk about?
01:32:54
Speaker
No, I have a couple of articles, um, about the Ohio, the Cleveland, Cuyahoga, should say, um, music scene, but can hit that. See that at the bottom. Yeah. We can hit that next week. It's not, um,
01:33:06
Speaker
It's kind of cool. I mean, if you're a musician, it's kind of cool. It also makes me wonder if, all right, as they're they' they're trying to build a um ah music scene here in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, which is kind of cool. Yeah.
01:33:25
Speaker
For musicians, that's great. But I don't, the mentality of most Clevelanders, I don't know how much that will actually happen. o Well, yeah, I think... It's something to talk about next week. we'll give it Yeah, we'll give it some time next week, yeah providing nothing major happens. But yeah, that's a good idea. I like that to kind of tie a little bit, and some culture into some of the shows.
01:33:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting but it is actually a pretty good deal ah big deal. i mean, because it it looks like our tax dollars would be going towards it too. So I like it, but I don't like it. I just kind of wonder about...
01:34:00
Speaker
the validity of doing something like that in Cuyahoga. is it is it Yeah. Can it work? Yeah. All right. I guess that'll wrap it up and we'll see if you everybody or not see anybody, but we'll hear everybody next week. That makes no sense either.
01:34:16
Speaker
um So I'll talk to everybody next talk everybody next week. That's it. That's what we do here. We talk and all right. Sounds good. Thanks, Tom. I'll see you next week. Peace.