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C1 Ep. 12 Eberron Reviewed 3
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This week we have another episode of Eberron Reviewed, Jeff sits down with Eric and Trevor to discuss the Seeking the Teacher arc, the darker tones introduced in the previous three episodes, and Draconos’s journey as a character.
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Introduction to Eberron Renewed
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D20 radio, your game is roll.
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Speaker
All right. Hey everybody. Welcome to Eberron Renewed. It is an actual D&D podcast where we play D&D, but today it's what we're calling Eberron Reviewed, where we go back and talk about the arc that just finished. My name is Jeff. I play Dex on the show or Lyle as he is right now in his
Meet the Hosts
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current form.
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I am Trevor, and I played, slash, play, slash, played Draconis. Draconis. And I am the Dungeon Master, Eric.
Review of Recent Story Arc
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Okay, so for those of you who have jumped in without listening to some of the earlier episodes, basically what we do is we just finished a three-episode arc, and we're gonna go back and kind of talk just a little bit about what happened, what Eric's mindset was when he was creating it, and then we're gonna, actually, we're gonna talk with Trevor a little bit about Draconis, I hope,
00:01:19
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if this is the first episode you're listening to, stop right now. I mean, I would just say go back to episode one. There aren't that many of them yet, but definitely don't listen. Go back and at least go back three episodes and start with the beginning of the finding the teacher. Yes. Seeking the teacher. Whatever. But yeah, so we're going to talk to Trevor a little bit about the full arc of his character now that Draconos is
00:01:42
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At best, gone. Yeah, I like gone. That's a better word for me.
Arrival in Sharn and Missed Hints
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The whole arc began, the first episode began with us in Sharn, and we just kind of said goodbye to the people we were on the train with, and then immediately went to the Church of the Silver Flame. No, eventually, after we let Trevor kind of stumble about as to what our first move should be.
00:02:10
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The only thing that I remember about that was, oh, yeah, because I was like, what do we do? And then finally someone suggested maybe we should go where he would most likely be. And then we went. The main thing I remember of that moment was the taxi ride itself. Yeah. Well, I want to talk about you all getting to the chapel because for me as a dungeon master,
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That was really the first moment running a game for you all that I don't want to say I got frustrated, but I was right on the verge of it because I felt like I was laying down every possible hint to talk to Rookin. Rookin would know. Ask Rookin because I talked about Krass being involved with the government.
00:02:51
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and knowing people that run in those circles and things like that and so luckily you all decided to go to the chapel but as i wrote the adventure out i was like they'll obviously talk to rukin i think or orgev well obviously it's a bad word i'm gonna place that solely on philip because barrick would have been the one to dr rukin i thought you were gonna say because he's not here right okay
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And also because he could not defend himself. Suck a butt, Philip. It was your fault.
Unexpected Chapel Visit
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But yeah, that was just a... I mean, the chapel was a great idea. I hadn't planned on that, hadn't even really thought of that, but good on y'all for thinking outside the bun. So we...
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Yeah, now and this is one of those things this is where it's fun for me having not as much as I have tried to educate myself on the grand themes of Eberron the nuts and bolts of what a what a day would look like in one of these
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Advanced cities so like just hearing you talk about the Cliffs that go down and the buildings that go all buildings go up That's not special and these flying like in my
Eberron's Unique Architecture
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head. I was just picturing you know these these what do you call them sky carriage? Yeah, yeah, I coach like in my head. I'm just I'm picturing Corbin Dallas
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Okay. Uh, like fifth element. Yeah. Or there's a, there's an episode of Dr. Who, shocker, I think, called gridlocked, where it's actually a traffic jam of flying cars and they're not moving, but.
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So in my head, that's what I've got. So when you said, and he shoots straight up, I was like, that's not what they do. That's not how they work. And I've always envisioned them just in my brain as almost looking like tugboats or rowboats that just fly through the sky. And so like you vomiting played in with my image because you're just in this kind of tiny little boat flying through the air and dropping and ducking and weaving. And it's kind of terrifying.
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Um, because that's kind of the thing with Eberron is all the flying stuff is nautical vehicles that have just been magically enhanced to airships just look like big ships that float through the air. And so, Oh yeah. See I pictured taxi. So then it was like, see if you hurl. I was like, Oh man, I got to throw up in a taxi.
00:05:06
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Yeah, and did. Yeah, so you loved that, didn't you, Eric? As soon as he was like, he's good on the ground. You're like, I'll make this guy yard. Yeah. I mean, I love those moments as a dungeon master because as a player, you tell me an interesting thing about your character that doesn't really relate to.
00:05:24
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Combat or anything like that and if you fail that check, it's embarrassing, but it's not you fall out of the sky carriage and die So it's it's those fun little moments where I think it you get a lot of humor out of the game and hopefully it was funny for people Listening because I enjoyed and you're vaguely New York Accented Cavi Cost us money.
Humorous Priest Encounter
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Yep, but so we go to the church and I
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I loved the priest, the cleric, the whatever, that wouldn't shut up, made me laugh a lot. It was funny because I was actually thinking about one day, if Dex gets to do a thing, doing a monologue like that, where people are trying to butt in and he's like, yeah, you know, and I'm just trying to make my way, you know, good old Gil, just trying to... And so when you did that, I was like, that's funny, I wish I'd got it.
00:06:14
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So what would have, if we had, I mean, I think we had already gotten the information that he was down in the downstairs. Um, and so the cogs, right? Yeah. The underdark. And so, um, and so if, if he had been like, you know, normally you make an offering for a blessing and then we'd be like, well,
00:06:35
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Okay, bye. Would there have been any mechanical thing that would you've been like, but you didn't get the blessing earlier. So roll with disadvantage. Would you have played that card?
The Church of the Silver Flame
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No, um, it would have been more. The church would have been annoyed slash angered by your, your hair. Like that's the thing is that the silver flame is kind of all over the place. And some of them take that kind of penance and give us money for blessings. Thing is all it's a racket.
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not say anything about organized religion, but in this particular setting, it's a racket. In this case, it's basically, what's that? It's indulgences. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it probably would have been a case of maybe an agent of the church comes down to the cogs to tell you to reconsider paying for the blood, like specifically Draconos, because you are a follower of the silver flame. Right.
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And just, you know, give them a little arm twist and then if you all do what you typically do in such situations and kill that person or at least brutally beat them, that would have escalated
Dex's Character Evolution
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things. Like, do we want to pay five gold to get this guy to go away? Or do we kill him right in the middle of the time? You know, I didn't think about this, but we definitely went almost two whole episodes without combat at the beginning of this thing. Yeah. And now. I mean, and I think that that's part of at least for me and Dex.
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the way that the situation he's in has darkened him. Like I'm trying to play it as Dex at the beginning of this was, I mean, he was a con artist who had found his way into the police and that was awesome for him, but he didn't take things seriously.
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I always say this. There is backstory stuff to support this. When he saw this kid disappear, it changed, and then he met this dipwad, Rookanear Clarn, and hated that, and now he's getting thrown up on. So it's like, you know what? I'm having a bad day, and you guys are being delweeds, and I'm going to hit you in the face with my staff.
00:08:27
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Well, and I think it works from a narrative standpoint, especially for your three characters and kind of the backstories that you all have being. Cops in this sleepy little town and like not a whole lot goes on. And so when you initially get swept up in this adventure, your first instinct may not be. Punch as we always go back to the goblins like and so that that escalation of things getting more and more drastic and more time goes by that.
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that lack of patience, I guess, for lack of a better term, makes sense. And maybe it'll come back to bite you in the butt, maybe it won't. Well, and also having been bolstered by the war forged on the train, like, yeah, I, I don't know. I don't think, and again, he's not here to speak for himself. I don't think Philip would think that Barrick is like, Oh, we're ass kickers. And I don't know.
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Oh, no. Dragon. Not
Dex's New Weapon and Combat Excitement
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at all. I mean, I think he definitely know he plays to his strength and he knows what he can do. But his first instinct is never to try to unless it's, you know, never try to fight unless you must. Yeah. But the Dex is just like, I know we can handle this. And well, I think it's also you got that sweet weapon that you love using. And so it's like any opportunity to get that ribbon weave out. Well, yeah.
00:09:47
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I mean, yeah, there's a reason that I hounded you for the better part of two months to let me have this weapon. And yeah, I mean, it's a fun... I think that now, if I'm thinking from a making radio standpoint,
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If we're not in a situation where we can learn something from a local but also make some goofs, we'd better be getting in a fight because we have cool mechanics. I say mechanics so much. We have, you know, cool things that we can do. This weapon is rad. Beric's spells are cool, so they're fun to listen to as well. And also, then...
00:10:28
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I don't know what side it is of me, but getting to have that one line and then roll for initiative to fight was just super fun. It was pleasing to me, Jeff. It also would have been pleasing, I think, to Dex in his new incarnation of just not taking any crud.
00:10:45
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Well, and presenting those street thugs to confront you, to ask for protection money. I mean, that was put in there to give you all the opportunity to get into a fight. Like, it wasn't like they, I was shocked. Like, you're going to fight these guys making them pay money.
Grave Visit Miscommunication
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I knew what the plan was. We did skip over visiting Philip's relative. Oh, yeah. I'll be perfectly honest. I try not to pay attention when other people talk. So I don't know what happened there.
00:11:16
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No, I'm just kidding. No, totally. I mean, but honestly, I mean, narratively, for Philip's arc, there was the bit about, are you going to go visit? And did I, did I misinterpret or was it really pretty explicit about going to go visit a grave? It was not go visit your, your granddad. It was go see. I remember I made a comment that.
00:11:39
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I was just trying to, like, be in character. I think I insulted Philip as a person about, like, well, he ain't getting any debtor. Oh, that was pretty funny. And the look Philip gave me was like, how dare you? No, that was a barrack moment, I can assure you, because it's not his grandfather's grave. It's his mother's. Oh. So, yeah, it's a touchy subject. Way to go, Dewey. Well, I thought somebody said grandpa. Her grave is at his grandfather's house.
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Yeah. Anyhoo. Well, my character will never know. And we got healing potions and I got better armor and then we went and did the stuff. Yep. But yeah, and so I'm trying to remember.
Confrontation with Sparky
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The first episode ends with us seeing Crash for the first time, right? Yeah. And you gave me the greatest gift.
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to play off of for the remainder of that arc when, and I want you to talk a little bit about your being a dummy when you see him, but saying that he was called Sparky, I was just like, oh Eric, you just wrapped a present up with a bright shiny bow for Jeff and Lyle to dunk on this fool for a little bit.
00:12:57
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You actually, at the end of that, when I saw your reaction, going forward the next two episodes, you were much kinder than I expected you to be. Well, things were happening. Man, the second episode, we'll get to it, made me put on my thinking cap enough that I was having a hard time thinking to be mean and funny.
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Or, and I want the world to know, I'm not mean to Trevor. I, Lyle, well, I'm not. I pull out a piece of paper. Jeff is never mean to... I'm never meaner to Trevor than I am to anybody else
Warforged Characters and Society
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that I care about. Yeah. Lyle is very, not particularly nice to Treco, no. That's fine. So it might come off that way. I like Trevor, I might miss him a little bit when he's gone. Well, thanks buddy.
00:13:45
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The, uh, yeah, no guarantees. Um, well, and it makes sense just the way that your character is and, uh, much more logical on and, and A to B and then mine's like A to squirrel. So it's not fully connected.
00:14:02
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Uh, I do want to say just, uh, briefly on the, I guess, cause I put myself in the, in the mindset of Drax when we play. Um, but I guess like when we were fighting the, you just said Drax, somebody's been watching the guard. Oh, sorry. Drax. Uh, well that kind of sounds similar. Um, didn't realize that, but when we were fighting the street thugs, I always forget like how.
00:14:31
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like how strong we are until we fight. And then we fight the next time. And I'm like, geez, like we almost straight up like in the street because it's a very short time. Like we almost just murdered dudes in like 30 seconds. Right. Well, and that was also our first battle after having leveled up and the level up two third is pretty significant. I mean, I went from the max that I could have done on a single attack if I didn't also get sneak attack was going to be eight points of damage.
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Immediately, it went up to 24. That was, I mean, so it, yeah, things change. Yeah. Yeah. Well, cause I just remember thinking after we finished, we were like, maybe we should let one guy go or whatever we did. I was like, these fools have like, they had no idea what we had. Yeah. But, um,
00:15:25
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Uh, you know, and so at the end of the episode, when we meet, meet Krast, uh, the thing you said something that I don't know if I've laughed harder into the microphone, except for when Eric goes, uh, what are you doing here? Why have you found me? And just go, well, you answered your own question on that one. And I cackled into this microphone and I apologize to the listeners that we tried to do some, some hard limiter on it. Yeah.
00:15:52
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Second episode, uh, starts in the same scene, talking to Krast. He explains to us that there have been, there's been a murder of war forged multiples of them. Uh, and he takes us to, okay, explain a little bit.
00:16:10
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I think we did a reasonable job explaining about the warforged anatomy and how they battle and stuff after the last arc, but this is a very different situation. They weren't just monsters to fight.
00:16:28
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Yeah, they were characters. I think we do okay during the course of the show talking about a little bit of their history and obviously their oppression. Mm-hmm. God, the property line just blew off. We'll get to that turd.
00:16:45
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So they were created by that house Kenneth during the war. Yes, like that. Their production did not begin until the war had started about halfway through the war. It was it was a wartime innovation. Right. But they are sentient.
00:17:02
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beings, but they have been manufactured. Yes. And therein lies the moral struggle for a player. What side are you on with this? Do you side on the fact that they are property and created beings the same way that a robot would be? Or do you side with the fact that they are logical and reasoning and make their own decisions? And it's a really interesting and obviously, just by nature of who the three of
00:17:28
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Both by the nature of who the three of us are, and by the nature of our characters, we are all very staunchly on the side of they can think for themselves perhaps they should not be considered property. Well, and I mean, it's an interesting scenario because the Treaty of Thronehold, the treaty that ended the last war just two years prior to the game starting, so this is recent memory, emancipated, all warforged.
00:17:56
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and basically said that they are not property of any nation or anything like that and so from a legal standpoint
00:18:04
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they are sentient, self-possessed beings with free creatures. And so it's just the, well, we covered kind of all the tenets of the oppression that they face of, because it's kind of like they were weapons. It's not even like for the Star Wars fans out there, like the clones, because those were people made to be soldiers. Like these guys were actually weapons that all of a sudden were just
00:18:32
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released on the street, and so there is some uneasiness there because these are creatures of war created for that sole purpose. And one thing that we mentioned that I guess is important to say again, there is not a warforged that was not in the war. Yes. Because the treaty stopped their production. That's correct. So it's not like post-war warforged and they can't procreate. Yeah. So if you see one, it was in battle. Yeah. It was a fighter.
00:19:01
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Um, and so it, it kind of brings up that interesting question of, and granted we dealt with like the slums of sharn and being down there, but if you were in like one of the upper tower areas where like middle-class families live and a war forge gets a job in your neighborhood that, that is literally a weapon and that's the only context you know for them.
00:19:23
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Like would you be comfortable with them living in that neighborhood and being around your your kids and your family and stuff and Because they are literal weapons and that's the that's the subtext through which we need to view things But it is not something that necessarily would come up in
00:19:38
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There's not a lot of D&D where you worry about your kids and their neighbors. Well, I mean, that could be, it could be incorporated into it fairly easily. That's not the context that we dealt with, but it's just an interesting thing with Warforged. And obviously we dealt with the fact that they don't eat, they don't sleep, they don't get thirsty. And so from a working standpoint, they can just go, go, go, go, go. And for less. Yeah. Is the magic that they were built with
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Like is it ever explained, like is it a specific type of magic or is it just like magic that everyone who is. Those of you that have listened to Eberron reviewed episodes that know that that's something that Keith Baker introduced into a setting, but intentionally left unexplained so that dungeon masters can kind of do what you will. Yeah. And so I'm able to define the magic that gives warforged life. Gotcha. Okay.
00:20:32
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And so, um, yeah, see one with the whole, um, seeing them as a weapon thing. I didn't even catch that because we were so, at least for us, it was such a focus on the property versus, um, you know, being your own being. Um, I didn't even think about, I just thought of more that part. I didn't even think about the weapon. You were in a part of town where literally everybody is a potential threat. I mean, so, um, especially us. So, um,
00:21:02
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So we go to the tavern or the inn or whatever and see the warforged and you said that it was significant that they were wearing different crests or that they were obviously from different nations and stuff and this is kind of the the war is over racial solidarity thing.
00:21:18
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Well, yeah, I mean, it's the fact that while they literally have the markings of the nation they were purchased by for the war engraved into their breastplates and stuff, the war forged do not care for that kind of thing and just rally together. And it would be the reason I said it was remarkable is you would not walk into a tavern.
00:21:41
Speaker
and see a Karnath soldier, a three-ish soldier, and a Brielish soldier hanging out. The Karnath is always gonna make me almost laugh because it makes me think of Johnny Carson. Oh. Because I'm an old person. So we meet Spruce, who's the new ward of Krast, and he talks a little bit about what's been going on, and then introduces us to three other warforged that end up being
00:22:11
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uh two of the three of which really end up being pretty important yeah the one that i talked to less so twig um and so the three of us each pick a warforged to go to talk to and we do a really bad job each of us just biff it just i mean we just are our big dumb dummy selves shown through spectacularly and uh
00:22:35
Speaker
Like, I mean, it's almost worth not. It's almost not worth going over how bad and insignificant these conversations are. You can talk about the characters and your impressions of them. I we don't have to know what I want to do. They're your characters. I mean, they all they all kind of sounded like Eric and no.
00:22:52
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No, yeah, so I remember a lot more about Psy the number than I do about Twig. Twig was just a kind of- Twig was just the tall, lanky one, right? Well, Twig was the witness to the last Lord Ford's murder, and he was just a wreck. He was almost, I mean, I couldn't get anything out of him. Dex couldn't get anything out of him.
00:23:08
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So like literally everything that he told Dex ended up would not have mattered at all by the end. Like was that it was I just not asking the right questions. There was there was a trigger in that conversation that basically if you did X.
00:23:25
Speaker
then the conversation shut down and it was mentioning the mutilation of Leatherneck, which you did very early on. Well, it was important that it happened. The trigger was, okay, if you approached him,
00:23:43
Speaker
It was going to shut down. Well, because if you would have asked him other things that he spotted around the crime scene, he would have told you about the golden chain links that eventually Draconis found out about and and stuff like that. So there were some elements that you could have gotten out of him. It just.
00:24:03
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played out the way it did. So it certainly did. And then Phillip or Beric inside had a lengthy conversation just about the plight of the warforged that was tricky. Yeah, I think it's a very fair thing to say. I think it was a well, it was I mean, it was good character work on both your parts. And that's why it was uncomfortable for me a little bit to listen to.
00:24:25
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And then we meet umber Who sweet sweet umber is just broken like right? I mean just period yeah, just needs. Oh, so I talked to you, right? Yeah Speaks in enigma. Yeah, and almost in code Yeah, I mean it it's a situation where his his mind was was broken Because he witnessed the morning when Kire
00:24:53
Speaker
Got filled up with gray smoke and everybody around him died because war forged our immune right and so okay well that's interesting cuz I mean there would have not really been a way for us to have known that right that was just for you to know yeah cuz he wouldn't have told us that and nobody else knew his backstories yeah but that's why he was um okay slow guard knew but
00:25:12
Speaker
Gotcha. Was there a just because the way that Umber spoke and the words that you chose for him to say very much outside of the realm of what we were expecting him to say when asked the question, what did you kind of base that character specifically on like the the vocal pattern and the like how he spoke?
00:25:35
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Well, um, it was, it was an intentional thing of, well, and I drew some inspiration from something that Keith Baker had written starring, um, some more forged and kind of a similar set up, but I, I, I tweaked a lot of it and uppers character. I adapted it from that, but basically the, the goal was everything that came out of his mouth had to be
00:26:01
Speaker
able to be taken one way in the context that you wanted to see it of him speaking about the murders, but also to be truthful to him in referencing how because the warforged were made by humans, they were imperfect. And so when he talks about them tearing us apart, what he's saying from his standpoint is the fact that humans have tainted us have made us a fractured race.
00:26:29
Speaker
But for you, obviously, it's this killer is tearing the warforged literally apart. And so. Yeah, you know, I went back and I listened, obviously, a couple of times so we can do this to each episode and also because I'm a narcissist and. Even then, like listening to the things Umbr said, I was like, what was Eric trying to get us to glean from this? We would have needed more inside information.
00:26:53
Speaker
Yeah, it was an intent. It's supposed to be a moment that you look back on and go, OK, I. So the fact that I looked back on and went, still nothing because I'm a big dummy. All right. All right. Did a bad job. I bet.
00:27:08
Speaker
I bet the listener will agree. It might be both. But yeah, that was kind of the basis around that character was that kind of double speak riddles of him saying one thing, but you taking it in the context that you wanted to take it in. In that case, he wasn't even answering. He was proselytizing his viewpoint. Yeah.
Meeting Slogar
00:27:30
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He is a wholly broken,
00:27:48
Speaker
Press was in their table filing paperwork, but yeah, you went back to- Back to Dr. Spruce, and he gave us the leads we needed. He gave us our choose your own adventure. There's three things we can do, and we chose to go to Slogar, to the cannons, where the warforged, where the body, the morgue. We went there under the auspices of it being the morgue, but I think secondarily, knowing that these were the warforged experts. Yeah.
00:28:03
Speaker
individual with one goal in mind and that's the purification of the warforged.
00:28:12
Speaker
We get there and we get stonewalled and I do the most minor of changelingy things. It got you in the door though, I mean. It did. I gave myself a tattoo. Birthmark. I gave myself a lot of tattoos at one point as a goof. But okay, a birthmark, a dragon mark. But I gave it to myself and that was all I got to do.
00:28:33
Speaker
And so we go and Slogar stonewalls us because of, I mean, essentially libertarianism. Like, yeah, I mean, not in the sense that it matched the American political ideology of libertarianism, but in the sense of this is ours to run the way we wish and does the property garbage and
00:28:55
Speaker
They're I'm not gonna help you because I don't I don't agree with your stance that I owe you Yeah, benefit of help. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's basically what I don't feel like we gleaned a lot from that first meeting What did I miss? What do I thought because we had to come back a second time to well No, the second time we came back was in episode three after we I'm saying like that like was we didn't really get much the first time No, we went back the second time because he said people to kill us. I
00:29:21
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Have you listened? I'm saving it for my road trip. Have a long drive. Well, and there was some some info, like, because that was the thing is that throughout these three episodes, there were moments where your your roles were comically bad and just all three of you would have just these moments of all of you rolling. Yeah, we did get bad investigation checks. And so we didn't even notice he was wearing blue robes.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah, once again, pretty sure that's my fault, I didn't describe it. But yeah, Sloguard knew everything that was going on, even that Umber was killing the other Warforged. Because he knew what Umber was up to, trying to create a new Warforged, a pure Warforged, and wanted to see what would happen.
00:30:07
Speaker
He was intrigued. And so if you all could have found yourselves in a situation to really press him up against a wall, he he would have given up the information to spare his life. But at the same time, assaulting a high ranking member of House Kenneth would have been a pretty bonkers thing to do. So. Yeah, but yeah, you all sadly didn't get much in that initial visit.
00:30:36
Speaker
But then, we did the fun thing. And we go to what? The Forge? Tain's Foundry. Yeah. Yeah, you remember this now? Oh, I totally remember this. I just didn't know when the episode was. And I don't remember how we got past the guards. I shouldn't remember that. What did we do?
00:30:54
Speaker
uh we literally just stopped the episode to see how we got past the guards because we couldn't remember but we thought it must have been kind of neat now it was a roll we rolled the dice that's why we didn't remember because it was boring dice it was it was math so we get past guards we go in we hear a scuffle yep we
00:31:13
Speaker
bust in and we got to see, got to see sounds terrible, but because of what we were able to do, a man, right, he was a human? A dwarf. A dwarf beating on a war force who was being held by two other guards. And we just did cool things. The reason I always remember about Thaumaturgy is because I love the picture it paints.
00:31:41
Speaker
And if somebody has that ability, I want them to use it at every opportunity. And so I was like, hey, you want to be scary? And you were like, yeah. I gotta tell you, for that one.
Thaumaturgy and Intimidation
00:31:52
Speaker
I don't know if I've ever been more excited for a Natural 20. Even though it should be something combat related, but being able to paint this sweet character as well as I can, and then just this fiery demon speech that comes out. I was so happy. That's an interesting question I haven't thought about. If it's say a DC-15,
00:32:19
Speaker
Yeah. Do you treat a 20 differently than an 18 or a 19 because it's a 20? Do you give a little extra? Yeah. I mean, I operate on a grading scale where the more successful you are, the cooler the thing you do is. So okay. I'm not sure if that sentence made sense, but no, I think I fix it in post ADR that we're bringing James Earl Jones. Uh, okay. Well good. I assumed as much, but I wanted to, I wanted to check. Um,
00:32:44
Speaker
So yeah, and it was awesome. And then I got I got to do a little shapeshifting and we just scared a guy and and and it was fun. That's really it. Like, it was a lot more fun in the moment to me. I'm not going to retell exactly what happened all the week. You all heard the episode. I do remember after that, I was like, I have to not say anything else that will make Eric make me roll again until we leave. I just want this this just them to just be afraid and just call it good. Instead of at the end, you go, OK, bye.
00:33:14
Speaker
Yeah, because I was like if I try to go over there and like like I'm gonna try to pick him up and you're like Do a strength check and then I fail Every bit of intimidation I had is gone. Yeah, so I was like to stand here and look menacing And That was the end of the episode that's really episode in it you all go ahead to dragon eyes
00:33:36
Speaker
Yeah, sure we were. We didn't. No. No, so anything that I'm missing anything that you wanted to point out that you that stuff. I mean, obviously having a different perspective, the old you are the only person, you know, involved in this who envisioned what might happen outside of what did you are the, the writer of clue.
00:33:57
Speaker
Yeah. Well, it's just such an interesting episode to to both watch and manage as it unfolds, because it was kind of sandboxing that you had your choose your own adventure three options, but it wasn't quite like taking off too far off. It was a very contained experience. And so seeing and I got a
00:34:23
Speaker
a certain enjoyment, but also just unbearable guilt with every encounter you had with like going from the conversation that Berwick and Scythe had into playing Slogar and referring to these people as property, and then going into Tain's Foundry and portraying Mulrick as just a racist as well. And so it was just like,
00:34:48
Speaker
Draining by the end of the episode where when we took our our short break before we recorded the third episode I was just like oh It's got dark here first racism is draining Man this was a darker arc. Yeah, I mean the first one was light-hearted the second one was actually this one was like
00:35:09
Speaker
Heavy yeah to the point that I got uncomfortable sometimes I mean I did I got uncomfortable in the sense of It's unpleasant at any point to think about the parallels between our world and the world we're portraying Mm-hmm. But yes, it was it was dark and it was uncomfortable It was hard for me being the person who's always thinking about trying to make a joke normally not successfully But giving it a shot. Yeah, there weren't a lot of places to do it
00:35:35
Speaker
doing that to me sorry let me try to make a joke i will say with this arc though this last little bit that we did with it being darker and you know with the second one being more actiony.
00:35:51
Speaker
Going back to the first arc where we did have a tragic thing that happened and it kind of sprung us up as people. Jeff was talking about it earlier, how he went from being just like, oh, this is a cool gig I have to, oh, there's a child I need to worry about and I need to grow up a little bit. I think this one, especially if, if, if Drac is not gone, if he is just, if he is just taken,
00:36:19
Speaker
I think this not made him let I think he's still the same person. I think he's sweet. I think he's still well, he's gone. He's not anything. He's not anything. But I think he still has the same personality and the same hope for the world. But
00:36:39
Speaker
This is very much a losing your innocence arc. Yeah. I mean, I could see him becoming jaded and or cynical after investigating a serial killer. Yeah. Situation. Yeah. Okay. So so let's move on to the third episode. We were going to go to dragon eyes.
Preparing for Swords of Liberty
00:36:57
Speaker
But to fight the swords of anarchy, swords of liberty. I got it right like once during this whole arc. But I'm not saying we were heading that way. And that's when we saw we were being followed.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So you, I mean, clearly in that case, it was not your intention for us to make it there. Well, no, I mean, I guess if we'd killed those guys, we may have kept going.
00:37:21
Speaker
Yeah. Or I mean, if your checks were, were bad, like they were so many times over the course of this arc, they would have just kept following you. I mean, um, and like you also could have just taken that information, gone and dealt with dragon eyes and come back. I mean, there, there were a number of ways you could have dealt with it.
00:37:40
Speaker
I had Dragon Eyes written. Yeah, what would happen in Dragon Eyes? I don't know. Are you gonna save it in case you need that sort of interaction down the road? I mean, I won't get into specifics because moving forward, Swords of Liberty. Oh, do they? Okay. Well, I mean...
00:37:57
Speaker
Pulling back the curtain a bit. We've recorded the next arc by the time I'm recording this and so oh yeah those were the swords of liberty. I literally was like oh they do? Oh wait yes I remember now those were absolutely the swords of liberty. And so you all would have met some of the higher ranking leadership of the swords of liberty and they would have been very standoffish. Oh boy that might have helped us.
00:38:20
Speaker
Well, and there's once again a number of ways you could have dealt with that of approaching pretending to be potential recruits or coming in just wearing your intentions on your sleeve, which is kind of what you all tend to do. Yeah, we're coming pretty hot. And so.
00:38:35
Speaker
Yeah, I had it all written out and all the characters prepped and everything. So you all just elected to double them back to. Yeah, we are. We are a vengeful crew. I think I say that Dex is a retributive, retributive, retributive. Yeah.
00:38:53
Speaker
Vengeful. Let's go with that. He's vengeful. He wants the people who wronged him to get their comeuppance. Yes. And we had that little exchange. Phillip and I said, well, see how we did. I think we must. Yeah. All right.
00:39:13
Speaker
So yeah, so we we head back and Be silly it's slow guards again, and there's fire and water and flirting a little bit Yeah, I mean you definitely were like what's her name? Well that's important to Trevor
00:39:33
Speaker
God. And then Draconis obviously found a clue that, I mean, it would have been a clue. Yeah. It would have played a bigger deal if things hadn't played out the way they did after you left the country. Now, in the very first episode, if we had rolled, if one of us had thought, I want to look here too real quick and rolled a better perception, we would have seen those gold links, huh? Yeah. And we would have seen the gold links of the thing. That wouldn't help us though. We still wouldn't have seen them with Umber.
00:39:58
Speaker
Well, but when talking to Umber, I mean, I did intentionally point out and spend some time describing the bag of scrap metal that carries around with him. And so that was once again, it wasn't I was trying to be intentionally vague because as a dungeon master, I have a tendency to sometimes be too heavy handed with my foreshadowing and clues and stuff like that. So I was trying to dial that way back.
00:40:24
Speaker
I may have gone too far. I will agree. I'd seen I've I have seen some things coming before but this time I mean
00:40:32
Speaker
I'm not joking necessarily when I say that the three of us stumble our way to victory. Like we've gotten two promotions now for failing to do the thing we were hired to do. We did not save Jacob. We did not solve, like we knew by the end of it the same way that Batman knows the Joker's the bad guy when the Joker shows up during the parade with the balloons and the knockout guys. We did not solve the thing.
00:40:58
Speaker
So I don't want to say it was because your clues were too vague. I think it was because we were we were chasing another trail. Yeah. That we wanted to go down, not the one we were being led. But hey, we look cool. So I don't think that's fair to say. Yeah. But I'm going to say it because I don't want it to be my fault. Get your shit together, Eric. OK. So, yeah, you all left Slogars and saw a saw Umber and a shadowy figure.
Final Confrontation with Umber
00:41:22
Speaker
The way to Slogars is when we saw we saw more getting beaten up by sight than we were all fine with it.
00:41:27
Speaker
Well, they were all shouting at each other. The fight had not broken out yet. We knew there was going to be... I, and so I think also Dex, was pretty dang sure that a fight was resultant. Well, and I was honestly kind of surprised that you all didn't... I mean, I didn't think you were going to pick Mulrick's side, but I was just surprised that you all were so hands-off about it. I think everything was pretty fresh for the characters.
00:41:56
Speaker
I think that if we had seen that stuff and been in town for a week and then had seen that happen, I think there's a very good chance that probably Dex, probably Barrick. I'm just along for the ride. I think May have tried to de-escalate, but because it was like we literally 20 minutes ago watched you beating a guy.
00:42:22
Speaker
Yeah. Tough. Yeah. I did like watching from across our lovely table, uh, just like, do you guys want to investigate this thing? And then like immediately Jeff and Phillip made eye contact, like a slight nod and like, nope, we're going to keep going. Um, but yeah, that was before you all returned to slow guards. And then after you left. Right. After we left. Um, and this is one of those things like,
00:42:51
Speaker
the way the three of us are playing together in character and getting each other's characters. Granted, you failed the perception check to see the person behind Slogar. But Philip and I both saw it and immediately both said, we attack. Not just we attack, we're gonna do the thing that's within our power to stop him from moving. And that was just really fun. He got it out before me, but I was trying to say it at the same time. I think I may have cussed.
00:43:20
Speaker
That's not too surprising. And yeah, so obviously you had set it up so that we thought Slogar, we had reason to believe Slogar was a bad guy, if not the serial killer. So when we pulled the hood off and it's Slogar, like you knew where we were going next, right? Like we were going to start,
00:43:41
Speaker
You had a good feeling that we would we would turn our attention from umber so you could set up a little set piece Absolutely, like that was your there was never a doubt in my mind that you all would give Oh, okay. Okay, slow down. No, no, no slow slow down Brainiac No, I'm not just because I mean you presumably found the killer like you have played umber as a pure deluxe victim the whole time Yeah, no you you you were a little sneaky snake. Yeah
00:44:07
Speaker
It's why I don't want to play anymore. No, yeah, so so what I mean and I'd like asking this question what if
00:44:19
Speaker
Philip and I were like, all right, Beric and Lyle started interrogating. And if Trevor, because it would have been in his nature, he's like, well, Draconis goes over to Umber to make sure he's OK. He's going to sit with him. Well, he did go to make sure he was OK and talk to him. But then at some point, you turned away to, because once again, he kept saying the same thing. You never get anything out of Umber, so there's no reason to talk. Oh, that's right. He kept saying the thing about being pure. Yeah, so I turned away from him and went back. Well, you even said, you were like, he just keeps saying the same thing.
00:44:45
Speaker
Yeah, you really laid it in there. It's really not worth your time to pay attention to. Yeah. And so you don't want these diamonds. So yeah, it was mostly a waiting game for nobody to be interacting with Umber and then he was going to dip out.
Umber's Escape and Chase
00:45:03
Speaker
When I'm I how it played out was I went first was it because I was checking on him or because I heard something you had to do a role. You left because you had been checking on him and then you looked back and realized he was gone and go right and I was into the assumption that maybe like it was like there.
00:45:21
Speaker
the real murderer was still out there but like had gotten umber and so then i went yeah chaos ensued and it was such a it was such a bummer hearing you describe it especially hearing you describe the sad scene of the three that we had talked to having been well two had been murdered and one was dying right um as a if i were listening to this podcast i would have found that mildly sad
00:45:45
Speaker
being an agent that could have done something, listening to you describe that, just like really, like I don't have visceral sadness response. It's not a thing that happens to me. I was like kind of wrecked. That's not true. I do have that, but not from hearing fictional stories. And I was like, Oh God, this is the worst thing I've heard today. Like this is the worst thing I'm going to hear this week. This is a bummer.
00:46:13
Speaker
And I had listened to the previous episode of Eberron reviewed, so I'd already heard some really bad stuff. Yeah. Like just some real bummers of like my own voice. But, um, but yeah, so, um, and also knowing the helplessness of Jeff knows this, I can't let on Dex does so I can't just run. Yeah. I had to keep talking to Slogar like an idiot. Like,
00:46:40
Speaker
the dramatic irony of me and Philip are stupid. And I mean, that's not dramatic irony. That's for me, that's just life. Philip is very smart. But Dex and Dex and Beric are just dummies because they're still talking to slow garlic is going to matter. And I had to play it. Yeah. And it wasn't it was so that was the first time I've had that weird disconnect.
00:47:01
Speaker
The first time in a while. Yeah. I've had a very strong disconnect between what I really want to do and what I know I should do to stay true to playing the game properly. Yeah. And it was not fun for me. I'm sorry. What was your reaction to the coming up because you were the one that came upon the scene. Right. Because I remember I didn't even because I knew I didn't have time to react because because I saw
00:47:28
Speaker
It wasn't that was one of the war, the living war forage yelled that it was under or I saw under do. No, you, you, you heard twig moaning behind, behind the bar and walked up to him and he told you that it was under. Right. And you were able to see a trail of the gold links. Right. In that moment I knew.
00:47:48
Speaker
I mean, the only thing that was on my mind was like, I got to get the killer, got to get the killer. And so for me, like I didn't get, not that I, I don't want to say I didn't get to have that, but I didn't have that moment that Dex and Jeff had coming upon the scene because I, it was like walk in.
00:48:07
Speaker
what happened its umber sprint and try to yell for my friends because you are the only party that can act and do anything about it right and i was just like i'm gonna sprint not going on them hope they hear me and can come back yeah yeah and luckily i rolled well enough
00:48:27
Speaker
God, if we had both beefed those rolls, and we're just still sitting there like, no, slow guard. Tell us while you're killing the robots. And meanwhile, final battle is just me. Like, guys. It would have ended the same way for you. Actually, that's not true. You wouldn't have lasted long. I would just die. That is the thing.
00:48:47
Speaker
But yeah, so about for a while. I mean, you know, we're trying different tricks and stuff and I'm I'm I am fighting cheap this time and I listened to it again. I was like, why did I think that this was what I need? It was the smart move to stay alive, but it was not it wasn't very Dex. Yeah, and it wasn't very
00:49:10
Speaker
That just really wasn't very Dex. I would run in, do a hit, and run back away. And I'm trying to remember why.
00:49:21
Speaker
I think in my head I had a justification for why I would do that. Because when you're trying to tear him apart, you're trying to use the ribbon weave to pull him. The goal was to get through joints, to get him onto the ground, or get him hobbled. But that doesn't explain, looking back on it, the only thing I can think is that I must have just been like, he's so big, I need to run away every time, which could very well be it.
00:49:43
Speaker
so yeah we're fighting we're fighting we're fighting uh you the creation forge yeah pulsing with light and then darkness starts creeping in right and i again i'm the only one that notices it
00:49:58
Speaker
You know, it's funny that I have such great, uh, perception, um, modifiers, but I don't know anything to do with like, you see a blue bird, 15,000 feet away. You don't know what that signifies. You don't know what kind of bird that is. You don't know if it's weird for it to be in that area, but you do see the bird. Like that's basically Dex's thing. Like I'm a telescope.
00:50:22
Speaker
Mm-hmm, or I'm a I'm a I'm sonar. Yeah, I can hear or see the whatever really well But I can't interpret the data and that's a bummer. Mm-hmm because well and I mean There are certain aspects of this world that you would just innately know as the character but a creation Forge going berserk, right? I knew that it was I knew it looked off enough to say what's going on over there Yeah, but literally that's all I could do. Mm-hmm. Yes. We'll check that out
00:50:47
Speaker
Yeah. Which, you know, whatever. It's fun. It creates another layer, another ripple of problem to solve. Hooray. I don't know if it was near the end or near the middle, but when I had gotten so used to having that special armor, the glowy armor,
00:51:08
Speaker
And the the good boost to my AC that it gave me that in at that point the fight where you got ripped off got ripped off and it dropped me back down to like.
00:51:19
Speaker
It dropped you nine points. Yeah. I think it dropped me to like 11 or 12. It dropped you to 12. You went from 21 to 12. 21 to 12, yeah. And so I was like, nothing. Yeah, the train fight. I'm unstoppable, you know, except for if you can really- You were about to say, invincible. Don't lie to me. Yeah. But then I tried to fix it. Thanks, buddy. Going from that to being like,
00:51:44
Speaker
a guy could just like kick me right in the chest and I'd fall down. And we're battling this huge monster. I felt naked. I just felt, I was like, oh, take me now. I just gotta. So the darkness comes back out and he, both times he's come out, you have made a point to say, and he looks at Dex and blah, blah, blah.
00:52:11
Speaker
And the narcissist in me says, awesome, Dex is going to get a neat thing to do. The, everything else about me is like, Oh, damn it. Why me? What's going to happen? What's going to happen to me now? Cause this guy has proven that he ain't nothing to F with. So I don't know what to do except for not like it. When you, he looks at Dex and he says, you've been busy. I'm like, man, why can't he look at Barrick? Can you look at Crass? Crass has always lived a good life. So that's a bummer.
00:52:39
Speaker
Yeah, you know. I mean, I'm not moving to LA, so you're gonna have to sacrifice our friendship.
00:52:47
Speaker
in order to get me off of this podcast.
Draconis' Ambiguous Fate
00:52:50
Speaker
So you're stuck with me. You can kill Dex all you want. I'll just roll up a halfling. I don't care. I don't give a dang. Anyway, so yeah. And then, okay, so this can be a good transition point too from jumping from talking about the episode to talking about your character. Did you know how you were gonna meet your demise? Did you know you weren't going to die?
00:53:15
Speaker
What did Eric told you? He had asked me, I think it was right after the second arc, or maybe a few days after that. It was in between the two. He had asked me, you know, how do you want to go? Do you want to just, you know, be like you sacrifice yourself? Do you want to be killed? You know, like a martyr thing? Or do you know, what? What are you thinking?
00:53:39
Speaker
And I said I'd like to you know, I threw a few things out there, but I think what we kind of agreed upon was Maybe having that ambiguity to where you don't know like it's very likely that he died But there's a percent chance that he did chance that he didn't Right and when you come back for Christmas we can record a one-shot where
00:54:02
Speaker
Probably not probably not this year. We're slow going on progress with being able to get inside the hoop, right? But what? Insider secrets, I'll be back in like one year from this month. So yeah, you will can't wait. Yeah doing a race with Jeffrey but
00:54:21
Speaker
Um, so if I, if I, you know, if Eric wanted to invite me back and do like a one shot thing, he could, if he wanted to be like, uh, he, he died, then that's all, uh, you know, that's, that's fine too. It's, it's up to the story and where it goes from here. Cause the story will be at a very different place than it did in a year than it is right now. Um, but yeah, I just, I, and I, uh, me personally, I didn't want him to die. I like him a lot. And so it's funny.
00:54:51
Speaker
how much that character grew on me. Uh, like not that I ever disliked Draconos, but at first it was like, okay, he's kind of this silly, uh, guy that's also with us, but man, some of the, just the little, the little asides and stuff. And then also the fact that he was formidable in battle when he'd actually get a hit was nice too. Uh, no, we were not,
00:55:16
Speaker
And I kind of played that a little bit into, after you were gone, to catch your flight to Vegas, Lyle said some very nice things about Draconos when you weren't here to hear them. You should probably listen to the freaking episodes. The only ones I haven't listened to is this arc. I did listen to, it was like, hey, Trevor's off to Vegas, so don't think that he's just in the corner. We gave him like a juice box or something.
00:55:43
Speaker
I don't recall. So it made me giggle. Okay, I want to back way up then.
Draconis' Evolution
00:55:50
Speaker
You designed this character. Yes. And we've mentioned now a couple of times on Eberron, on this podcast, I'm just going to stop saying Eberron reviewed on these episodes, that you, 20 minutes into the first date time we played, had to completely restructure what you were thinking about for your character.
00:56:10
Speaker
Yes. And we've talked about it, but give your words, what happened, what your plan was and why it had to change. Yes. So the whole like first episode was making it up on the fly, how my character was going to be. So the way that I had kind of discussed with Eric and the backstory was able to stay exactly the same except for minor details, basically how he reacted to things.
00:56:37
Speaker
But basically it was he his parents were killed in front of him when he was a child. He was homeless and a scrounger trying to just get food and scavenger scrounger.
00:56:53
Speaker
Until he tries to, it's basically lame is without being lame is, he tries to take food from our paladin friend and is caught, but says, you know, he takes me down and says you can live here, but you have to train under me kind of a thing. And so I wanted his whole gig.
00:57:12
Speaker
Did not necessarily be getting revenge on the people that kills parents because that was so many years ago, but and he didn't know who they were right, but trying to prevent things like that from happening and he was going to you know, he was a tiefling he was I'm he was meant to be scary and I was gonna portray him with this and
00:57:34
Speaker
Not so deep that you can't understand them in a microphone, but a gruffer, deeper than my normal speaking voice. Just give it a taste, give it a little taste. Gosh, I didn't even know if I could do it anymore, because I just kind of barely took it. I don't think you can either. I don't really want you to try. You can do it. I believe you. It's kind of, I mean, it ended up being like most of Eric's characters, but everything was kind of right here.
00:58:00
Speaker
and he was just gonna be more quiet, he wasn't gonna talk for, he was gonna be the loner that just was mad at the world. The loner of the group. Yeah, okay, all of us. He was just gonna, he's not being used to having friends and just thinking everything through a cynical- Are you making fun of me? That guy, no, we all went to high school with that guy. Yeah, so it was gonna be based off of that.
00:58:26
Speaker
And then into the first episode, hadn't spoken yet. You know, didn't feel like he needed to talk yet. And then when we got to the bar, there was the everything went down and then the Banshee scream and then craziness. And I was like, I just pictured because I everything was going down and I had just my character had opened the door, walked in and just stood there and watch this chaos happen. And I was like,
00:58:55
Speaker
What a bar. You probably asked for a beer. So what comes out is my high-pitched voice of beer, please. And from there I was, I realized I couldn't in any way, shape or form go back to that rough character. And so the rest of that first episode, I think I was just kind of making things up because I was like, okay, what goes with this voice and playing that character? And then we started the second episode and from there, um,
00:59:25
Speaker
thinking about the backstory that I had. No, second episode or second session that we played? Episode. Okay. Because we kind of took a small break where I didn't have to like try to think on the fly. And just so changing it from like, he witnesses parents death and therefore he wants vengeance and wants to rid the world of, you know, murderers and then people of that nature and being hardened. He witnessed it.
00:59:53
Speaker
But he took more of the emotional side of it, and in the face of tragedy, became, I don't want to say became happy, but he took the approach of, there are tragic things that happen in this world. There needs to be some light as well. And so trying to be that light and trying to
01:00:16
Speaker
If someone's gonna make you frown I can try to make you smile So that was the approach that I try to take from then on With my character very cool. Yeah, that's really neat and I mean you obviously you built it really well throughout the time. I remember One of the other times that and it was it actually wasn't while I was happening was listening back when you go by yourself into the crypt where the hobgoblin and you're like
01:00:43
Speaker
There's some stuff in here. There's a guy, he's dad's cool. Like I was just, I was. Yeah, I don't know what, cause I realized, cause someone else, uh, one of my friends had asked me like, well, how do you, how do you talk as the character? And I was like, oh, a little bit higher. And they were like, like just higher pitch. And I was like, well, I kinda, and then I just went into like his vocal pattern. I didn't realize that I was doing like his cadence. He's got to get pretty much out of cadence. Like, well, and thinking back on it, I did it subconsciously on purpose, but it was because he is,
01:01:11
Speaker
he doesn't plan any of his sentences out. And so every like so I wouldn't plan anything that I was going to say, which is why when we talk to the children is bad news. Because it's just like, like, okay, what's the goal this? Okay, so we're here. And what we need it's like when I try to improv and improv group, it's just bad things happen. And so but yeah, because I was like,
01:01:35
Speaker
Uh, Hey, so I know that you need to get this thing. And I was like, Oh, that's how he talks. I forgot. But yeah, so when you created a great character, there was a lot of fun. Well, thank you. Uh, and this is where if there was a, if there was a physical manifestation of the things that we've described happening in this podcast, there would be the montage of, of you asking for a beer and then Draconos.
01:01:58
Speaker
in the face of these two kids and then sitting outside the bar playing with his pet mouth that he inexplicably had all of a sudden. I forgot that I didn't bring it up until then like vomiting in a carriage and I don't know. Being a scary demon boy. Stealing armor from a dead guy.
01:02:14
Speaker
things, the things, the things that Tarkonos did very such a way. Um, well, Trevor, I'm really glad that I got to play multiple hours of Dungeons and Dragons with you. I know I will say, um, that among the people that I've gotten to know on social media, uh, and that also listened to this podcast, uh, at one point somebody
01:02:38
Speaker
I think I may have posted something about the podcast and somebody replied, uh, I love that sweet demon boy. And, uh, makes my heart. Yeah. I know that you were a fan favorite character. Uh, in so far as we have fans, you were a listener favorite fan favorite rolls off the tongue better. You were a listener favorite. Uh, and, uh, yeah, it was like, it was like a sweet demon boy. And then somebody put no spoilers. And then he put, uh, that demon's always sweet.
01:03:03
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Pretty great summation of the character. Thanks for doing the show with us. We're going to miss you a lot. Thanks you guys. Thanks for letting me be on here. Absolutely. All right. Well, after all of that, get some business out of the way. This has been an episode of Eberron Renewed. We are a D&D fifth edition podcast.
01:03:26
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We release an episode every Friday We did miss a week. Sorry. We're gonna get back on it a couple weeks ago missed a week, but you know things happen and and Anyway bug bit me. Yeah Take fever apparently is no joke anyway, so
01:03:46
Speaker
Yeah, this is everyone renewed. We would love to hear from you guys on social media. You can find us at Facebook.com slash the geek pantheon. It's our another podcast in our network. You can find us on Instagram at the pantheon, Twitter at the geek pantheon, the geek pantheon.com. That is the brand that we are under is where we do everything.
01:04:12
Speaker
Again, thank you so much for listening. Uh, keep talking about us. Please share us with your friends. We don't advertise. Uh, and we've run out of people in our personal lives to tell. So, and we have a couple hundred listeners now and I don't have a couple hundred friends. So I'm pretty sure that there are people out there that know people that I don't, they, they can tell about this podcast that.
01:04:30
Speaker
Unless you're embarrassed about it, I kind of get it at the D&D podcast. But do it anyway. Uh, for your boy. Thank you guys so much, and we'll see you next week. Bye. Bye.