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Episode 4: The Game Everyone Is Talking About !
27 Plays1 year ago
- Man City vs. Arsenal
- Are teams playing too much football ?
- Where we wrong about Chelsea ?
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Teaser
00:00:10
blackjag_3
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Love of the Game podcast. It's your boy Chino. I'm joined by my my brothers, Chuku, say what's up to the fam.
00:00:23
Chuku
What's up, guys? It's been a minute. We'll have to be back. Let's get it going.
00:00:27
blackjag_3
and And my other brother, Hamakus.
00:00:30
Emeka
Yes, sir. are We back at it again. Somehow, episode four. Let's go.
00:00:35
blackjag_3
Hey, we're still here, we're still here.
00:00:36
Emeka
Still here.
00:00:38
Chuku
they Don't work on.
00:00:39
blackjag_3
Again,
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Chuku
or We're back again.
00:00:42
blackjag_3
again thanks everyone for for joining us. It's gonna be fun episode
Arsenal vs. Man City Match Analysis
00:00:49
blackjag_3
today. I think you know there's, you know and and honestly, let's just jump into it.
00:00:53
blackjag_3
There's there's one there' one thing that all of the football world has been talking about for the last two days, and it is Arsenal versus Mansi versus Arsenal, whichever way you wanna say it.
00:01:02
Emeka
Yep.
00:01:07
blackjag_3
So let's dive deep.
00:01:07
Emeka
yeah
00:01:09
blackjag_3
If you were under a rock for any reason, let me just give you the the high level play by play. At the Etihad city scores first, you know, the blonde Viking robot scores, you know, it is what it is.
00:01:25
blackjag_3
Then, you know, 2020 is Maldini with a beautiful shot, you know,
00:01:32
Chuku
The banger.
00:01:33
blackjag_3
yeah <unk> zo as we we like to call it, you know, out of nowhere to to to get Arsenal back in it. And then, you know, im I do want to note a note, an assist by Martinelli, who, in someone's point of view on this podcast, I won't name any names, it's apparently worse than Mudrik, but we might get into that a little bit later.
00:01:54
Emeka
and assist in heavy quotations, heavy quotations.
00:01:54
Chuku
Whoa.
00:01:55
blackjag_3
sorry And then, you don't get the chance to defend yourself, don't worry about it.
00:01:55
Chuku
OK.
Controversial Red Card Discussion
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blackjag_3
And then,
00:02:02
Chuku
Thank you.
00:02:02
blackjag_3
you know, later on, you know, set peacemasters Arsenal, you know, get the second goal with big Gabby doing what he does best, rocket header into the net, 2-1. And then, you know, you know, the beginning of the game, you know, first 20 minutes, you know, Man City definitely were controlling the game. Then, you know, after an unfortunate injury to Roger, I think Arsenal start to get some control back, you know, 2-1.
00:02:32
blackjag_3
They think things are looking really positive for Arsenal and it's looking like it's going to be a cracking game. You know, we're going into the second half at the Etihad. 2-1, you know, Man City is going to be pushing. What's Arsenal going to do? Are they going to keep trying to play an expansive game? Are they going to try and drop deep to hold their lead? And then PGM World decides to to do their thing. And as a red card,
00:02:56
blackjag_3
to Trussard, a second yellow. We'll get into that a little bit. 2-2. I mean, 2-1 at the half. Second half is, you know, pretty much, I don't know if you've seen the movie 300, but that's essentially what the the second half turned out to be. And Arsenal almost held onto the end, you know, resilient stall where it's fought like lions, but in the 98th minute, John Stones puts it in the back of the
Referee Decisions Debate
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blackjag_3
net. 2-2.
00:03:24
blackjag_3
That's not that that's that's your that's your that's your game summary. So with that let's dive into it. Where do you guys want to start?
00:03:31
Emeka
that's what I get doing play by play.
00:03:32
Chuku
a
00:03:33
Emeka
on a Listen, the do we though, my I don't know man,
00:03:35
Chuku
hmm i gotta start with the yellow with the red card man and you gotta start with the red card what your thoughts yeah man yeah don't see why
00:03:48
Emeka
maybe I'm getting old and my my first
00:03:49
blackjag_3
First Do we think it was a fair red card or not? What's everyone's thoughts on it? What are everyone's thoughts on the new rules? Or not even if you have a problem with the new rules, but how they're being managed, how they're being app applied.
00:04:08
Emeka
I just feel like I'm going to go into it. I got to get this rant off now. Like I said, I'm getting old man, because I watched that game and my takeaway was, wow, what a great, you know, what a first, what a just a great game. What a great game to everyone seems going to be nil, nil, low block, whatever. It was a little block, but obviously after 10 men, great game, whatever. I can, I go online and everyone today and yesterday and it just talk about refs.
00:04:33
Emeka
like i I don't know man like I unless there's something egregious and I'm talking about Liverpool scoring a goal that was ruled offside for no for no reason unless it's that level do we really need to be litigating the refs and yes we've got another record card but I know people coming after me I'm standing by it man Chaucer forgot he wasn't a yellow.
00:04:52
Emeka
That's my takeaway from the whole thing He forgot he was in the yellow because you think gave a a second yellow for him just barging in my brother's back
'Dark Arts' in Football
00:04:59
Emeka
I wouldn't even be mad and then he boots the ball away. Yeah, it's a second later I don't care like it's a it's a it's not the end of the world like it's like the way everyone's losing their heads about it you would think uh You think of something crazy like the Liverpool thing?
00:05:14
Emeka
That's why I don't like we're starting to get talking about Pgmo and corruption whatever but maybe I'm just old. I don't know everyone's talking about
00:05:20
blackjag_3
I think
00:05:20
Chuku
So wait, long story short, the AC, just one second here, but just long story long story short, you're saying that you agree with the decision and you believe it was a record? Is that what we're saying?
00:05:29
Emeka
It was a second yellow.
00:05:29
Chuku
From your end?
00:05:29
Emeka
Yeah. And I'm only consistent on this.
00:05:31
Chuku
Okay.
00:05:32
Emeka
I hate the notion that you got to commit murder for a second yellow. Two yellows is a red. That's the rule. as though To me, there's no higher standard for a second yellow. Was that a yellow card? To me, it was a yellow card.
00:05:43
Emeka
So therefore, two yellows is a red. We move.
00:05:46
Chuku
I see this is where I guess, I don't know where Chino stands on all this is, but this is where I disagree.
00:05:49
blackjag_3
I heavily disagree on the third part of your statement.
00:05:53
Chuku
all right all right no one
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blackjag_3
If you go back into it, whether you want to say, Was it a second yellow? For me, I don't even care about, you know, you can say Trussard wasn't smart in the decision. Other people can say, oh, did he think it was halftime or oh, you know, it was only a second. You know, I can, there there's two sides to every story. The one thing for me is I do think that there needs to be a certain standard for a red card.
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blackjag_3
in the game of football. A red card is supposed to be serious punishment for one of a couple of things, either dangerous p play, serious abuse, or if you're stopping a clear goal scoring chance, or if you're blatantly abusing the rules, right? So if you commit two fouls, two yellow card offenses, that is a red card.
00:06:51
blackjag_3
I'm sorry. I don't, you all know I played the game at a, not the highest level, but a fairly high level for a while. I'm sorry. There's no, it doesn't matter if it's my team or another team. Kicking the ball away to send somebody off for that is ridiculous in my opinion. To send somebody off to reduce a team to 10 men.
00:07:18
blackjag_3
Look at how every other sports deals with these things. If you if you do something to get ejected, what happens? Okay, you get ejected, you lose a player, but you're not a man down. In basketball, you get two texts, somebody else comes in. NFL, you get ejected for a hit to the helmet, somebody else comes in. So in soccer, you get a red card, nobody else is coming back to replace you. So it needs to be a serious offense, a serious, serious ah Serious, um, um, you know trespassing of the law or some sort of code for for somebody to be down to ten in my opinion That's just it.
00:07:54
blackjag_3
And then okay, if you're gonna apply those rules, please just apply consistently across every team That is what makes it such a big problem That's my opinion.
00:08:04
blackjag_3
All right rant over this forty is where two we'llll We'll go to chicken I'll come back to you
00:08:05
Emeka
in that case how about we talk do we you talk
00:08:12
Chuku
Yeah, I mean, just to piggyback off what my brother Chino wast was talking about here. Like, I just, like if we, first of all, first of all, as fans, right?
00:08:25
Chuku
And I think you alluded to this earlier, brother Mecca, but basically, we're not here to see, you know, we didn't come to watch the refs, you know?
00:08:29
Emeka
I mean, in that case, how about we talk?
00:08:34
Chuku
We we came to enjoy a beautiful game of football, right? Between two
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00:08:39
Chuku
high level, you know, highly competent teams here, right? And it's like, I just feel like, again, it might be a little bit of arsenal bias here, but I just feel like the refs are just, they've been itching to offer or give red cards for the most like minimal of things that I just, back 10 years ago, do you believe that was given that would be given a red card?
00:09:06
Chuku
I don't believe it we would have been.
00:09:06
Emeka
Yes, because I saw what happened with Arsenal in the Champions League. Robert Van Persie got two yellow cards for kicking the ball.
00:09:11
Chuku
Well, we've got Percy, but.
00:09:13
blackjag_3
And what's the theme there? Who did it happen to? What's the theme there?
00:09:18
Emeka
I watched Arsenal again, so I see happened there more. Last, I mean, I guess it was 10 years, it was last season. Last season, Gordon got sent off for doing the exact same thing. Kicking the ball away, second yellow card got sent off. Look, it just comes down philosophically. You know what, and it's a fair point you can make that you if you feel The bar for a second yellow needs to be high.
00:09:36
Emeka
I just don't agree because there's nowhere in the rules of the game where it says a second yellow has to be high. You got two yellows, you got a second yellow. Everyone poise on the second yellow.
00:09:43
blackjag_3
okay so What about the fact that...
00:09:44
Emeka
No one cares about the first yellow. I'm getting cheap yellows.
00:09:45
blackjag_3
So how about the fact that the exact same ref in the exact same game last season didn't give a second yellow to Kovacic because...
00:09:53
Emeka
And that was wrong. That was wrong.
00:09:56
blackjag_3
So that's also all I'm saying is be consistent.
00:09:58
Chuku
That's what we're going to see. So we're just going to go that was that was wrong.
00:10:00
blackjag_3
So we're not gonna apply for a dangerous tackle, but all of a sudden we decide to apply it for a very marginal kick in the air.
00:10:00
Emeka
I agree with that.
00:10:10
blackjag_3
What seems more egregious to me?
00:10:12
Emeka
I don't know man. I get I think everyone the whole society is collectively erased watch I started did to get that file in the first place That's all my stats because soon as I saw that file. I thought damn you don't get sent off He just barged him in the back.
00:10:23
Emeka
You can't even do the claim.
00:10:24
Emeka
I was told to the shoulder. I went he just barges him in the back That
00:10:26
Chuku
Oh, but wait, now I'm confused.
00:10:28
blackjag_3
That's the way they did the yellow card four.
00:10:28
Chuku
Now I'm confused.
00:10:30
blackjag_3
That's not what they did the yellow card four.
00:10:31
Chuku
That's what I know exactly.
00:10:31
blackjag_3
If you put the yellow card four back, I'm worried about the problem.
00:10:32
Chuku
That's not what you think of the yellow card for.
00:10:35
blackjag_3
That's not what they did the yellow card four.
00:10:36
Emeka
but ah ah To me it compounds though because you see a foul like that and you boost the ball the way you just feel like man this guy's yellow like it all just goes into one to me at least thats I guess so and I get what we're good we're straight into the my main point is that we're spending all this time on the ref well I won't be talking about
00:10:44
Chuku
I don't know, man. I thought he was looking for an excuse to give a yellow card.
00:10:46
blackjag_3
Oh, no, man.
00:10:47
Chuku
Another yellow man. See.
00:10:49
blackjag_3
Right back. that's pretty
00:10:55
Emeka
Arsenal playing good football the first half and stuff like that but and And all the world's talk about is just the refs and like I get it You send someone off and I just I don't know. I guess I truly just grow tired of rough talk So boy they deserve to be sent off though really deserve to be sent off we supposed to look the other way The
00:11:06
blackjag_3
and
00:11:06
Chuku
Anytime you send someone went off in a big game like that, of course the conversation is going to come back to the roughs.
00:11:07
blackjag_3
for
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blackjag_3
I
00:11:11
Chuku
Because, again, like I said earlier,
00:11:17
blackjag_3
agree with you.
00:11:17
Chuku
but why was there a warning? but what what was what was like What happened to warnings?
00:11:21
Emeka
warning was the first yellow the warnings the first yellow
00:11:24
Chuku
See, this is my problem. This is my problem. No, i i completely I just completely disagree with you. Because, bro, there was a time when you give warnings, even after you give a yellow card, right? You give a warning that, hey,
00:11:36
Chuku
we we don't know this is not what you know it's not gonna be allowed you do this again give a you know you can't how are we given they're telling me you know just yellow yellow like like how did the game is gonna be ruined we're not here to watch oh I'm shocked by your take I'm honestly shocked by your taking my car because like
00:11:40
blackjag_3
that's fine you do time we one more time you but but
00:11:49
Emeka
If you commit two yellows back to back, you get a yellow. i don't I don't know, man. I don't know. I've seen too many real Madrid games back in the day. Casemiro will get a yellow card, and then hitting people will come in and they'd be like, nah, man, the bar for second yellow is too high.
00:12:04
Emeka
And I always annoyed the hell out of me.
00:12:05
blackjag_3
That's fine. If you do one more time, you do it one more time, you're off.
00:12:07
Emeka
So I gotta be consistent. because there's the pe
00:12:10
blackjag_3
Come on.
00:12:10
Chuku
Okay, hold on. He acknowledged I trusted him. Oh, well. So why don't you know?
00:12:13
blackjag_3
so if it morning right Right So here's the thing why is it okay, you said it happened to to Newcastle Gordon once if you look at the stats The team that has had the most red cards in the last number of years Why it's not even like by one or two.
00:12:30
blackjag_3
Why is it Arsenal by like arts?
00:12:31
Emeka
level Because it's clearly our touch touch is doing this it's clear
00:12:33
blackjag_3
That's that's
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00:12:36
Emeka
I don't we watch our snow games, bro.
00:12:38
Chuku
What do you mean I'm still doing this?
00:12:39
Emeka
We consistently Confine way and I and I pray to touch up for this I praise it for this But he finds ways to get to game the game rules like it is what is clear.
00:12:49
Emeka
It's a message to the team Do all these things?
00:12:50
Chuku
Oh man...
00:12:51
blackjag_3
No problem. and and and others team And other teams don't. it only awesome' going to do
00:12:55
Emeka
No To our extent
00:12:57
blackjag_3
So why don't they get punished the same way? that is that is really That's the issue.
00:13:01
Emeka
we push the rules the most and i get i to me that's a positive
00:13:04
blackjag_3
i don't i I don't believe that. I do not believe we that we we we we stretch the rules the most. I do not believe that. Because the other the other discourse that's happening around the game, apart from The red card is also in the dark arts.
00:13:21
blackjag_3
and all the port Okay, here's my thing.
00:13:21
Emeka
And I think I'm proud of it. I'm so proud of it.
00:13:27
blackjag_3
Everyone are such bloody hypocrites.
00:13:30
Emeka
Oh, for sure.
00:13:32
blackjag_3
bloody hypocrites, because I remember three who were against Aston Villa, against West Ham, against Brentford, where Ramsdale got, this wasn't even like, oh, being shy to to do to set a pick, where they were holding and shielding Ramsdale.
00:13:47
blackjag_3
And what those same people who were giving remarks from talkers were saying, oh, he needed to be strong enough, or why wasn't there so
00:13:48
Emeka
Absolutely.
00:13:54
blackjag_3
Get out of here with all of that.
00:13:59
Emeka
100% agree.
00:14:00
blackjag_3
Get out of here. It's hypocritical. And I think that is why a lot of fans are mad is because we saw it being applied the same way. Then it's like, you know what, you know, I'm going to have to hold that. But the problem is we're not seeing these rules being applied consistency across the board.
00:14:16
blackjag_3
And I think that is the major issue.
00:14:19
Emeka
Fair enough if that's the argument people want to make. I will say that ever since Rice got the yellow, I'm definitely paying attention for the yellows for for delaying restarts. It's not 100% I agree. It's like 60-70% though. Like people get yellow cards for delaying restarts. My thing is we got to start cracking down on these BS 20-minute yellows we've been getting consistently this year because I've always noticed it. As soon as I see a guy get a cheap yellow, I make a mental note. I said, this is going to come and bite us in in the butt later in the half. And so often, we get up in this situation because Trost starts for his yellow was so unnecessary. Why is he a dragon man? It wasn't even a dangerous counter.
00:14:56
Emeka
Eat it because you never know now you under thin rope and then 20 minutes later we get some BS happen to us But your point about the hypocrisy I've you know, what please double double tap. Hello. I agree this in my soul and my spirit And that's why I'm sick. I'm proud the dark arts thing. Oh, I'm proud of it I've watched Arsenal be called soft for 20 years. You best believe I'm rooting for the boys. Do all that stuff. I love that we grab it on corners. I love it. Oh my, are you kidding me? I love that we get yellow cards all the time. I love that every match, our keeper goes down for injury and we out here getting team talks. I love that my boy MLS is going to be in the record books. First guy to get a yellow card before his debut. I love all those things. This is getting me excited to be an Arsenal fan again.
00:15:41
Emeka
Arteta. I call it paella pulis for a reason. Everyone thinks he's the pep disciple. My man grew up on the Moays too. I don't sleep on that.
00:15:50
blackjag_3
And you know, what it's it's it's fine. I think it's even fine to like I'm again, I'm not saying that we don't employ some some dark arts again, you know, we're talking about Paya police. Arteta spent four years at Man City where they were one of the kings of employing the dark arts.
00:15:50
Chuku
Look.
00:16:05
Emeka
I don't know what to say. I don't even know what to say.
00:16:07
blackjag_3
but so
00:16:08
Emeka
Oh, Dark Arts is a compliment. The good team do the Dark Arts. That's the point of it.
00:16:11
blackjag_3
Yeah, exactly.
00:16:12
Emeka
Madrid, Dark Artists.
00:16:13
blackjag_3
do I don't want like is it being painted as if we're the only ones doing something in the region.
00:16:14
Emeka
all of
00:16:18
Emeka
Now, we're the best at it.
00:16:19
blackjag_3
There are other things which is just whatever. And this isn't something new. this This feeling is George Graham said it back in the early 90s.
00:16:27
Emeka
oh
00:16:30
blackjag_3
They hate Arsenal. He said it in the early 90s. So this is the thing.
00:16:36
Emeka
But yeah, also I don't understand.
00:16:36
blackjag_3
One of the first black clubs to integrate black players, it was a thing. When we were the first club to have a team full of all international players, it was a thing. So clearly, there's some lingering resentment that's in the air, and they're not even being coded about it anymore.
00:16:52
Emeka
Let there
00:16:55
blackjag_3
They're not even being coded.
00:16:56
Chuku
Bro, it's ridiculous, it's ridiculous.
00:16:56
Emeka
be.
00:16:56
blackjag_3
I would love to talk football. I would love to talk football. I would love to talk football. It is not my fault that we can't. That's not what the focus is on. It's not my fault.
00:17:06
Emeka
i
00:17:06
blackjag_3
There is a whole group of people being picked with millions to
Chelsea's Performance and Key Players
00:17:10
Chuku
Like, America, America, yo, I bet, I bet, I just have to say this point, bro. Like, are you not noticing that with all the red cards that we've got in, the two red cards we've got in this season? You do understand, there was not a single warning given to any of the players.
00:17:10
blackjag_3
make sure that what we work with is the purpose.
00:17:27
Emeka
I don't need
00:17:28
Chuku
It was just automatic, one, one, gone.
00:17:31
Emeka
It's funny you say that he was talking for about this game was that the rep did you have a whole warning?
00:17:31
Chuku
Just, just like that.
00:17:36
Emeka
He called the captains together. Clearly he was telling them bro.
00:17:39
Chuku
Oh my days.
00:17:39
Emeka
Y'all gotta cut this nonsense out. I mean we scored off it. I don't know what you were telling me. He called the captains together and tell them straightly knocked him knock it off.
00:17:44
Chuku
Oh my days. That's what you call a warning?
00:17:48
Emeka
That's a warning.
00:17:48
blackjag_3
what
00:17:49
Chuku
That's why you should protect me and you have two different definitions or two, two,
00:17:51
blackjag_3
when built better yeah
00:17:51
Emeka
That's a warning.
00:17:53
blackjag_3
why did duca get a yellow cart there
00:17:54
Emeka
He's passing the ball towards where the kick is supposed to be taken and not just booting the ball and Clinton I'm trying to pass it torture those booted the ball. That's the yellow card any dude
00:18:02
blackjag_3
no it the red of the world the letter of the road doesn' say You have to boot the ball letter says you you can't you can't start so what is it?
00:18:07
Emeka
I Little low penalty against buyer last year when Gabrielle grappled the ball is always but a little of the law You gotta use common sense
00:18:10
blackjag_3
like but but
00:18:17
Emeka
the Rice won, I felt a lot more pleased about Rice than I felt about Charleston.
00:18:21
blackjag_3
mostless
00:18:23
Emeka
Rice was actually ridiculous. Not one, I agree with that. Rice was ridiculous. Charleston was not to me. That's the difference. Rice was a tap and he got booted it for it. Charleston bars the man to the back.
00:18:33
blackjag_3
So When you show slums somebody or he starts trying to grab somebody's books No, no
00:18:37
Emeka
That was a red. That was a red. That was a red. Hey, man, I don't even want to argue that. That's a red. I don't understand. That was a i was ridiculous, too.
00:18:48
Emeka
And and next game, do something crazy, as well, and then go away with it.
00:18:49
blackjag_3
So,
00:18:52
Emeka
I don't know what the Rev was doing about that.
00:18:53
blackjag_3
that's all. Exactly. to the if If I start seeing everyone get the same reps, then i will i will I will take back everything.
00:19:01
Emeka
My thing is that every fan is guilty of this.
00:19:02
blackjag_3
my
00:19:03
Chuku
i'm curious
00:19:04
Emeka
I'm not going to say only are some fans. Every fan is guilty of this. When decisions go your way, you ignore them. But when they go against you, it's filed in the law cabinet that you refer to every single time.
00:19:12
blackjag_3
There's a difference between being like oh, this is good for my team and thinking if it's right or not I will be like oh, I'm happy that decision went away But if you ask me do I think it's fair? I will legit I will stand on what I'm saying is that Second yellows they need to they need to be a high stand not for it not for a bad tackle if it's a bad Yellow card tackle and you do two of those again.
00:19:30
Chuku
I'm curious.
00:19:34
blackjag_3
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about all these picky little things and like a throwing like for for being for for either delaying a goal cake or taking too long or throwing stuff like that.
00:19:39
Emeka
i mean
00:19:46
blackjag_3
I don't think you should should just give a red card for that.
00:19:48
Chuku
Just give a second automatic yellow for like what has become of our game?
00:19:50
blackjag_3
Yeah. and what if you need to do
00:19:53
Emeka
but but
00:19:54
Chuku
What has become of our game?
00:19:55
Emeka
Hey stop doing stuff like that then how about that don't getting cheap first yellows, that's my that's my solution Stop getting cheaper as yellows.
00:20:01
Chuku
Oh man. Oh man. I don't go anywhere with this, but either way, I hear you, man.
00:20:06
Emeka
Hey I play I thank you. Let's talk about the actual game before we do though. Do you know me raise the point? I wanted to double down or something are so I hate it No, does not feel great. No gets hate teams that are good when we were finishing eight.
00:20:19
Emeka
We were getting laughed at I Want to hate we gave because we good people hate on man city people ain't on Liverpool hate on us, too We good now. Yeah, it feels great out on me. I I feel To draw so energized by that draw.
00:20:29
blackjag_3
i feel like I feel like they paid us regardless because now before it was like you guys suck while you're talking, yeah you can but you you you you you fools, you haven't won anything and so now so to me it doesn't even make any difference because to me it's like
00:20:33
Emeka
I'm ecstatic
00:20:49
Emeka
Oh.
00:20:49
blackjag_3
I don't even, I'm not fair enough, I get it, but it means like, we we still haven't won anything. So it's like, what does it, what is it just what does this hate benefit me?
00:20:56
Emeka
We went a lot.
00:20:56
Chuku
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:00
blackjag_3
I'd rather take the W.
00:21:00
Emeka
Hey.
00:21:02
blackjag_3
What does this hate benefit me? We haven't won anything still.
00:21:04
Chuku
If you want to leave or something, you know what I'm saying? I go, it's because right now it's just
00:21:07
Emeka
i
00:21:07
blackjag_3
Yeah.
00:21:08
Emeka
It's been a lot more fun these last two years than two years before that.
00:21:09
blackjag_3
For sure.
00:21:11
Emeka
i say
00:21:13
blackjag_3
Although I will say the first two years, that first season and then last season, we're a lot more fun i' have forget
00:21:20
Emeka
james You crazy bro beating Tottenham last week.
00:21:23
blackjag_3
seems to
00:21:24
Emeka
Oh, that was uh, I'm still happy about that win I'm too happy about that when you kidding me Little victories Hey
00:21:30
Chuku
But listen, I hear what you're saying and look, those are the little victories in the low winds but and but in the grand scheme of things, yes, I say little victories because we've not won anything again. have no with The only cup we've won was when we were still up and coming and were we weren't a good team and a great team at that point, right? We're still that was to that step it in and whatnot. But I'm saying as a reach this stage where We're trying to say we're a dominant team, right?
00:21:57
Chuku
Which I agree, we are a dominant team. Obviously, Barman City, you know, Liverpool, maybe. I mean, we're better than that. I still think we're better than Liverpool. So we're probably, I would say, we're the second best team in the country.
00:22:08
Chuku
But it means nothing until we start winning some trophies behind that. Because as of right now, can you believe we've not won any major trophies? Forget about major trophies.
00:22:19
Chuku
We've not won any trophy, really, with our combinations.
00:22:22
blackjag_3
A-A-A-A We've won. We've won two super cupas. Relax.
00:22:29
Emeka
ah ah Community shields people was to claim those if you roll my eyes.
00:22:30
Chuku
mean she We're gonna, are we really doing this?
00:22:32
blackjag_3
Two super cupas. I don't know what the difference is.
00:22:34
Emeka
looked him
00:22:34
blackjag_3
If you put the super cupas, it feels better. When when we went do a big Barcelona-Ruma do super cupas?
00:22:37
Chuku
Are we?
00:22:40
blackjag_3
Is that a better than community?
00:22:40
Emeka
the Those are games.
00:22:41
Chuku
See, see, this is the banter I'll give, this is the banter I'll be giving to the United fans or any other, you know, rival fans with that, right?
00:22:41
Emeka
those are
00:22:49
Chuku
They talk about trophies, but this is a safe space, guys. This is, this is you know, this is our community.
Upcoming Manchester United vs. Tottenham Match Predictions
00:22:54
Chuku
And let's, we have to keep one have to keep it you know what I'm trying to say?
00:22:55
Emeka
so the safe speed I'm 100. To me, this talk is crazy.
00:22:58
Chuku
web
00:22:59
Emeka
i'm so so i'm so so I'm so serious about this. To me, this talk is crazy.
00:23:03
Chuku
Okay, why? Why do you think it's crazy? I want i want to hear what why.
00:23:05
Emeka
I saw Arsenal under Emery. We'd be outshot 25 to 3 every game. We'd be coming to group chat mad as hell. Our father stopped watching Arsenal games, stopped claiming them, said it's not my club. I now come into games and I expect to win. These last two years have been fantastic. Yes, it would be nice if we won. Everyone wants to win. Life's about the journey of the destination. I've down on that in everything in my life, and i even in sports, I'll stand on that.
00:23:32
Emeka
i Love watching Arsenal. That's all I can ask for. I love watching Arsenal right now this
00:23:36
blackjag_3
And I think and I think and I think so just to make my point clear what I'm saying is that I'm not saying I don't love What I think like the way I love this team the way I love these boys every single one of those players like is Like my wife is probably jealous.
00:23:51
blackjag_3
What I'm saying is what any other fan thinks Whether they hate us or the lowest I don't care Whether only I don't care.
00:23:59
Emeka
i
00:24:01
blackjag_3
It's not about them is about and what we're doing and
00:24:02
Emeka
hat here feels nice it watch you all When I read these and people molding, these Liverpool fans get losing their mind, oh, it makes me feel so good.
00:24:07
blackjag_3
Yeah.
00:24:12
Emeka
When I see how rattled Man City, the 12 Man City interviews they all gave after that game, talking about the dark arts, it made me feel great. This is fantastic. No, I felt bad when we used to lose 5-0 at the Etihad.
00:24:24
Emeka
And then they come out and say, man, I still play some great football. They're really plucky guys. Like, that would be great next year. No, I don't want that. I want this. I want Holland losing his mind. Because yeah, you might have scored early in the first game, but we bought a dress for the game. I want that feeling. I'm i'm loving it. That's why I love Arteta so much. Because look, you can never be Wenger, a child watching Wenger. But as an adult, just so we got the we got the, you know, Cajones now.
Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up
00:24:51
Emeka
The Coneys like when when I was seeing those nine men behind the ball, you know, I'm happy moment I had about that game outside of our goals was when Gabriel Jesus was locking up Bernardo Silva I left back. Let me tell y you how good oh my I was getting up and yelling see Gabriel Jesus are you defending like that? Like nah, man We got these boys believing, bro.
00:25:11
Emeka
We got these boys believing. I'm so happy after that game. I don't know. That's what, to me, seeing everyone be mad in the media, it just resonated with me, because I was a great... Oh, that was my greatest games I've seen myself play.
00:25:22
blackjag_3
I think it's the way the game ended with them scoring in the last minute.
00:25:22
Emeka
That felt like... Oh, true.
00:25:27
blackjag_3
I think if Arsenal had still won that game, hard don you know it be covered differently.
00:25:29
Emeka
Picture, picture, picture.
00:25:31
Chuku
Can you imagine how we would fall if we won that game?
00:25:33
Emeka
Oh!
00:25:33
Chuku
It would be crazy.
00:25:36
Emeka
Fought like lions.
00:25:36
Chuku
It would have been.
00:25:36
blackjag_3
so
00:25:37
Emeka
That was the quote, like lions.
00:25:38
blackjag_3
what We've talked a lot about things outside of the game. We focused a lot of arsenal. Again, I just want to bring some balance to the conversation. Let's talk about what this means, potentially means in the bigger picture and for the rest of the season. So this is Man City at home against 10 men. Is it a point gained? Is it two points dropped? Depends on how you look at it.
00:26:05
Emeka
Point gain for sure.
00:26:05
Chuku
man
00:26:06
blackjag_3
With the added fact that they have it looks like they've lost Roger for the whole season I will take that to one
00:26:12
Emeka
I was going to ask both of you all this question. Right now, would you trade 2-2, Raji out for the season? When you win 2-1, Raji's out two weeks.
00:26:25
Emeka
Oh, I know my answer, and now my answer is that I'm taking Raji out for the season, and it's not even close.
00:26:30
Chuku
Man... Man, I'm taking it too long.
00:26:30
blackjag_3
Because this is about imagining everything that happened if we have managed to win that game to one Maybe the end Because
00:26:38
Emeka
Oh, it's been fantastic.
00:26:40
Chuku
Not just win at the Emirates too, but they are dead here.
00:26:45
blackjag_3
two points two points two points is two points you can buy it in the in the transfer window two points is two points and
00:26:46
Emeka
Nah, man. Y'all know the bigger picture, man. Y'all know I've seen the bigger picture.
00:26:53
Chuku
Exactly. Two points is two points now.
00:26:55
Emeka
I mean, I didn't go see one of them as he started drawing to these random games now. Roger's not there anymore. Y'all know I've seen the bigger picture, but it's OK. It's OK. We'll recycle back to this later on.
00:27:06
blackjag_3
So anyway back to thoughts any any thoughts on the you want to talk man see you know what it means
00:27:10
Emeka
yeah the actual game like lowke man I know we talked about it in the passing, but I guess as Arsenal fans, have you ever felt as confident as in your life when we have corners than we have in the last year and a half? Because it really is crazy how when we get a corner, I'm like, man, we're going to do something with this now. It's a weapon, set PCFC. It's crazy.
00:27:35
Chuku
Yeah, I know. I mean, this is definitely the most confident. I mean, but it's something that's been brewing for a while though. Not like just, I feel like this season is is is coming together like nicely, right?
00:27:41
Emeka
Oh, for sure.
00:27:46
Chuku
Just because of the nature of our games and like, you know, so far early on and especially with Spurs and, you know, with with our, obviously this past weekend with Man City. But, you know, I mean, let's not act like this is brand new, man.
00:27:59
Chuku
We were doing this two seasons ago, right?
00:28:00
Emeka
Now, for sure.
00:28:02
Chuku
Like with set pieces. so I feel like, yeah, no, I mean, it's only gotten better over time. And clearly, this is something that's been practiced in know in the training ground. you know And I'm loving every moment of it because like it it's it gives us a new weapon right that you know that we can use and and deploy against certain teams, especially away from home. is like you know We're so used to Arsenal playing a certain type of way where it has to be good in the eyes. It has to be you know always you know flashy, whatever the case may be.
00:28:32
Chuku
Man, look like I will agree. I'm in a way just happy to know that we have different ways that we can you know attack and win a game. It doesn't always have to be the pretty football you know that we've watched and grown under Wenger.
00:28:47
Chuku
It can sometimes be, you know like I said, you know hard hard and know and and g gritty. you know like we We play good defense.
00:28:53
Emeka
For sure.
00:28:54
Chuku
This is really why we've invested all this money in all these center backs. We've invested a lot of money in the de in in the defensive side of the game. and Look, it's it's it's really paying off because as of right now like, you know We've considered one of the fewest if I i picture is the fewest amount of goals so far in at least one of the fewest amount of goals in the season and You know clearly our defense is one of the better defenses in the league if not the best So I just wanted to say, you know, well, yeah, let's just start with the league but definitely contender for for in the world and yeah, man, I feel like you know long make long may continue because
00:29:19
Emeka
Going to the world, you gotta leave.
00:29:31
Chuku
and i'm I'm here for it. i'm here for it i will Hopefully, we can beat you know within the next year or two or two, we can beat that Chelsea record of these considered goals in the season, but know one step at a time, one step at a time.
00:29:42
Chuku
but Shout out to Big Gabby and Kaleba, for sure.
00:29:44
blackjag_3
Yeah, well, what' been what's been really interesting to me and yeah, like you said, shout out, you know, that big Gabby for sure. Shout out the guys on the delivery Declan Rice and Saka.
00:29:55
blackjag_3
That's you the assist what's been really interesting to me is we clearly see, you know, you know, primarily he has cracked down on certain rules, you know, what Ben White used to do before they cracked down on it.
00:29:56
Chuku
yeah
00:29:56
Emeka
Boom.
00:29:56
Chuku
clear
00:30:08
blackjag_3
And what's been good to see is that we've adapted. and what we've adapted to is is is working. Because to me, in my mind, I keep thinking at some point other teams will catch up.
00:30:19
blackjag_3
But, but hey, and I'm not going to know is clearly, you know, that collaboration between, you know, Aeteta and Mavea, you know, I think we're seeing some some some zones, some some
00:30:31
Emeka
You know what I'm saying?
00:30:32
Chuku
Yeah, I'm pleased man, I'm telling you.
00:30:34
blackjag_3
we printed You know, somehow, because, yeah, it's it's it's amazing how effective it's been. and it's it's it's it's It's great to see that we have different dimensions to our game. We can play, we can play ball, we can we can grind defensively, and we can find different ways to win. And, you know, you know you would like to think it'll be even better once, you know, we have certain guys back in the team, you know, once Marino comes in, you know, to see to see what that looks like.
00:31:01
blackjag_3
Anything else you guys want to talk about on the football? I do want to come back to the rotary injury a little bit and just talk about Something that's you know a little bit of a bigger picture in the game, so I don't know if any more thoughts on on on the actual game Yeah
00:31:13
Emeka
Have you ever seen a big sign they make a debut and score a goal like Calla Fiore? And it's not even like top five topic for discussion. That's a jam pack that game was. But you know, a big love to my boy, Italian Stallion, Calla Fiore.
00:31:26
Emeka
That was fantastic goal. My God.
00:31:28
blackjag_3
You know i know, I don't know.
00:31:28
Emeka
That was a fantastic goal.
00:31:29
Chuku
You know, I was a crazy man.
00:31:30
blackjag_3
or it It was an injection of life back into the team.
00:31:34
Emeka
And for the record, I promise if Arsenal conceded that goal, it would be all over the news. All the fans would be complaining about it. All I'm going to say, keep it a buck. We conceded that goal in the manner that we did with the ref calling them in and doing all that.
00:31:47
Emeka
It'd be all over, they'd be doing stopwatch breakdown.
00:31:48
blackjag_3
elect He was back.
00:31:49
Emeka
They'd be doing stopwatch breakdowns frame by frame.
00:31:49
blackjag_3
and and talking up about bit
00:31:53
Emeka
Frame by frame.
00:31:55
blackjag_3
look At this point I have I have no sympathy for any nobody can come to any ask me to be Okay,
00:31:56
Emeka
Frame by frame.
00:32:01
Emeka
Hey, screw him.
00:32:02
Chuku
I agree.
00:32:02
Emeka
That's why I was like, screw him. We screw him. I don't care.
00:32:06
Chuku
But yo, I'll take this after when we're when we're done here.
00:32:11
Emeka
they said
00:32:11
blackjag_3
yeah quick you know it's it's really I don't want I don't know if ironic is is the right word, but you know Roger he's been you know probably the chief
00:32:11
Chuku
but
00:32:21
blackjag_3
one of the biggest advocates for, you know, saving.
00:32:23
Emeka
He's the biggest name for status. That's probably what I need to look for.
00:32:25
blackjag_3
Yeah, about the amount of games that we've been playing, especially considering the teams he plays for Man City, who are in every competition up until the very last, and you know he plays every 90 minutes, and he plays for Spain, and they go deep in tournaments, talking about the amount of games that these guys are playing. and We've seen we're seen an expanded Champions League now. We're coming off a summer in which we have both the Euros and the Copa America with the season starting shortly after. I think, honestly, I think this is just one of his first starts.
00:32:54
blackjag_3
because pep has been resting here that we're seeing have a club world cup that's going to be occurring this summer what are you guys's thoughts on all that because you know as a fan we we we we love it to be very honest we we love all the games we love that there was football all summer we love that our season is back but you know there is something in the back of mind that's like it's probably getting a little too much because it's not like fm where you know i'd be rotating guys one game on one game off
00:32:55
Emeka
about to say he's been resting.
00:33:24
Emeka
That's literally as about.
00:33:24
blackjag_3
These guys are in every game, full 90s, and it takes a toll.
00:33:29
Emeka
I have zero sympathy.
00:33:30
Chuku
I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. I have zero sympathy as well, because this is exactly why the coaches, the managers you get paid the big bucks.
00:33:32
Emeka
Zero sympathy.
00:33:39
Emeka
Literally preach.
00:33:39
Chuku
You have to understand you have squad depth. There's a squad depth for a reason. You've got to be able to rotate your players. You've got to be able to manage the players in your team.
00:33:52
Chuku
This is the reason why, again, you're getting paid to lead men on the field. This is why coaches get paid. Like I'm sorry, but like all these squads, there's no rule against having a look at Chelsea and how many squad members they have.
00:34:00
Emeka
Preach.
00:34:06
Chuku
They literally, you have 20 plus players in your team. You need to tell me you can't find ways to even out and rotate certain players throughout a ah ah season.
00:34:18
Chuku
Like I don't want to hear this excuse of all players have to play so much, even in the national team level, you have squads for a reason. use the players in your squads. If a player can, for whatever reason, partake and play every single game, then you sub them out or you you you rotate them out from the team or you use them in spot starts, whatever the case may be, you do what you gotta to do in order to allow that player to have ample w rest.
00:34:46
Chuku
Because again, these are professionals we're talking about. you know These are not some some you know kid at the park that's playing rec league and playing every single game of a tournament or whatever the case may be. These are professional players who get paid big bucks to play football for a living. And they should be able to know how to take care of their body. They have professional trainers are with them every single you know week. They have you know how health department is literally know, systems set up in order to, you know, watch the players and and manage how they go about, what are they, you know, their food, what are they intaking for food, how they're training, their progress and certain things. So, and all this information is at the tip of the manager. So again, I don't want to hear this excuse of of too many games because honestly speaking, I just think, again, this can be better managed, you know, over a course of ah ah so of a year or over a season. if you If, you know,
00:35:46
Chuku
if If you're a good manager, or a good coach, you should know how to handle your players and how to, you know, rest them, bring them back and, you know, make sure that they're not overly fatigued over long stretches of time. That's just how I feel how i feel about it.
00:36:01
Emeka
No, let me preach my guy like I the way these players the managers and people have players as well to players are normally the most because They'll be the first people who stuck complaining when he's when they miss a game or two You bet that guy a game. Oh, he's gonna be so mad Well, yeah, and I'll come and say I played all these games You can have it both ways and also my big thing is like It's such a, is this whole story about players playing too much to me is just the biggest example of big club bias and how the media frames things. How many teams actually play more games? Think about it, in a 20 team league, only like seven are in Europe. So 14 other the teams have had the same schedule for all these years. What's more games? We strike, we cool. But only like the Real Madrid's, the Man City's, the teams that play every game because of the best teams. Yeah, they play 60 games a year. But like my brother said, those are the teams that have the most depth.
00:36:51
Emeka
Rotate. I'm sorry. You have academies too. You have all these benches. Rotate guys, man. like And the championship, they play 46 games every year. they don't they They somehow manage. People act like, oh, we played two more games in Champions League this year. It's the end of the world. It's going to come crashing down. The only complaint I have time for is the Club World Cup, because that's actually ridiculous.
00:37:14
Emeka
like But you know, we'll see how it goes. If I'm a manager, honestly, I'm playing my reserves, the first like three group games in a club World Cup, because this is a meaningless trophy. Maybe after you get some history and teams start caring about it, people take it seriously. But if I'm a Madrid, we rolling there with Guler, we rolling there with the boys in the academy, the first couple of games, because
00:37:38
blackjag_3
Yeah Yeah
00:37:39
Emeka
but But everything else, they've had the same schedule essentially since 2000, like winning Champions League rebranded. Only this year can we now say the Adam Moore games.
00:37:51
Emeka
People make mad ah ah survived back in the day, what's the problem now?
00:37:52
blackjag_3
yeah
00:37:56
Emeka
To me, it's just, again, the the media always just loves to pick on the big teams and broadcast their complaints.
00:38:03
blackjag_3
and and i And I think you guys made. Both of you guys made really, really, really good points. So you know thanks thanks for bringing that context and that color. I think one thing that is slightly a bit different, and I'll just you know draw parallels to to to the NBA here, is that, yes, you know it might be the same number of games, but the game has changed. The game is, you know say what players in the NBA are saying all the time, when we talk, when people talk about load management, and yeah, you can talk about, oh, well, they're getting paid the big bucks.
00:38:35
blackjag_3
The way the game is played not put so much stress on your body that, you know, each game takes takes a bigger toll than a game did 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago.
00:38:46
blackjag_3
And I think the same thing can be said for for football today. You know, you your teams weren't doing gang and press back in the day.
00:38:56
Emeka
Yup.
00:38:57
blackjag_3
Those weren't transitioning from, you know, a a a high block to a low block and doing all all all the things that there wasn't the same tactical intensity, there wasn't the same speed as you have back in the day. So yes, I will agree, you know, it is the same amount of games, but I do think today's game is more stressful on the body. But then on the other hand, players have, you know, more things that they can use to take care of their bodies than they did back then. So, know you know, you can't talk both paths, but I think that's one thing that, you know, sometimes gets missed in these discussions is it's and it's not the same game these guys are playing today.
00:39:33
Chuku
You see, I, I, you say that.
00:39:33
Emeka
Hey, like my brother Chiku said, that's why they make the big bucks. Managers are going to, you all start doing the cost-benefit analysis. If we get a good person all the time and all my guys get injured, maybe we got we got to stop press less.
00:39:40
blackjag_3
Yeah.
00:39:45
Chuku
But you gotta, you gotta agree on this because we just talked about this a little bit earlier in the segment here or in the show, in the show, but you can say that yes, the gang impressive and there's no more told in the body in the sense of having to maybe run a little bit more. That's the argument that people are covering more ground. with all the different pressing styles of what but not but and But in that same caliber, in that same case, the game has also gotten softer. Like we just talked about how there's less room for for crazy air tackles or you know i'm like like things that used to be called or used to, I guess, can people get um um gone away with maybe 15, 20 years ago?
00:40:23
Chuku
Not in today's, you know, EPL, in today's game, those type of fouls, you're getting yellowed, you're getting red carded, you're getting, you know, stricter calls being made in today's game compared to 20 odd years ago when we were watching the Barclays or, you know, the earlier Premier League. So I just feel like, sure, you know, play is it give and take? I'm sure, you know, with the more pressing, yes, I agree. And for average player,
00:40:52
Chuku
There's maybe you're running a little bit more than what you were doing before. Are you, you're going to ask a lot, but again, is this being done by all teams? I don't know. I feel like it's really certain teams that you're seeing really, you know, take on that truly pressing role.
00:41:07
blackjag_3
Friend today if you look at you know watch La Liga if you watch German football everyone is Yeah is but Genius that it been that it was before so to other point i i agree I See what you're saying about you know, you know, you know, the game is softer.
00:41:13
Chuku
We're saying everyone's pressing. Okay. Fair. No fair, sir. But then what what about the point? Okay.
00:41:24
Chuku
ah pico tacos
00:41:29
blackjag_3
They're the same tackles but I think one thing I'll say is And I think we, this was in the NFL, I was watching a game and they were, which player were they talking about? I think it was Justin Herbert, where his high ankle sprain, his plantar fasciitis, it's like, it's better to break your leg than to have that injury.
00:41:47
blackjag_3
It's better to have your leg broken than to tear an ACL or to tear your Achilles in some senses because the recovery is a lot more straightforward than that, but anyway.
00:41:50
Chuku
Sure, but what about the offensive tackle zone?
00:41:58
Emeka
Yeah, fair. Listen, another day rotates. And until I hear Ipswich manager complain about the too many games, I got no time for this.
00:42:06
blackjag_3
fair enough fair enough
00:42:06
Emeka
Like, it's only the best teams, only the best teams complain.
00:42:07
blackjag_3
oh
00:42:09
Emeka
Well, you're the best team. You win some, you lose some. You play more games because you're good. You want to be, you know, play less games, losing the first round in the FA Cup, you know, losing the Carlin Cup.
00:42:17
Chuku
There you go.
00:42:19
Emeka
You play less games.
00:42:20
blackjag_3
Nope. Fair enough. Fair enough. And we all know, all the even as these players complain, I think the one thing is it's there's a difference between the players and the clubs because the clubs are chasing more money and it's the players, yeah, they're getting paid, they have to bear the brunt. Speaking of more games, we did see you know the first but first week of of the new and improved Champions League format. Any any thoughts any thoughts on that? Any highlights? Things of note?
00:42:47
Emeka
Champions League on a Thursday was really weird. I get why they did it, but yeah we can do without that.
00:42:50
blackjag_3
Yeah, that was lack.
00:42:52
Chuku
Yeah, I was very hella weird.
00:42:55
Emeka
Thursday night is the slander night. that's It's reserved for slander. We can't be having big boys play on Thursday. It just doesn't feel right.
00:43:03
Chuku
That's all, man. I felt weird.
00:43:06
blackjag_3
You know, one thing one thing that we did see and, you know, offline, you know, Maka, you commented on it is, you know, one of the things with this gene-proof format is you can't take anything for granted.
00:43:20
blackjag_3
We saw every team putting out their best teams, trying the best start possible, and you still saw, you know, City Drew with Inter, Arsenal do with Atalanta, you know, so, so it's, I really, I love, you know, the competition that it's going to bring because, you know, I was reading an article the other day and talking about, yeah, we've seen a lot of complaints about the Champions League, but some of the benefits in that, you know, previously, you know, if you're in part one,
00:43:24
Emeka
oh yeah
00:43:49
blackjag_3
you're playing teams in part two, plus point part part three, part four.
00:43:51
Emeka
Oh yeah.
00:43:53
blackjag_3
Now, even if you're in part one, you have to play to two games in part one.
00:43:56
Emeka
That's what I'm saying.
00:43:59
blackjag_3
So there's more jeopardy there. And then as well, the teams in part four, also is instead of playing teams all above them, they also get two games against teams that are in quotations mark at their level.
00:44:09
blackjag_3
So you know I think that should make things more exciting. And you're not playing the same teams where you know a game In game five, it's gonna be a dead rubber. The game that's supposed to be exciting is a dead rubber because you've already qualified. We're gonna see more big games at an earlier stage that are gonna mean something than in the previous format. So I think that's pretty cool.
00:44:31
Emeka
Listen, we saw Bayern give my guys Porte Deimosie grab 9-2. You tell me people out here complain that they don't want to see there a reverse leg of that. Like, why are we doing this, man? The group's stages were dead.
00:44:41
Emeka
I'm so happy they changed this. And I've said before when we talked about the pretty past, anyone who's played FM and has seen this new format play out, you cannot tell me it's not better. It's just objectively better.
00:44:52
Emeka
The only complaint I have time for is two extra games.
00:44:52
blackjag_3
Yeah.
00:44:56
Emeka
End of the day, it's just two games, man. Like, UBI is two games. UBI.
00:45:00
Chuku
Yeah, I don't see how you can be a football true football fan and and not be happy about the change. you Only because, you know, you get to see the best teams play each other, or you're going to have more interesting, ah ah you know, matchups in this format than you would the previous one.
00:45:17
blackjag_3
Yeah, more interesting math notes.
00:45:19
Chuku
That's just what it is.
00:45:19
blackjag_3
That's the key word. That's the key word.
00:45:21
Chuku
Yeah. So I think you know i mean this is the first season. I just think this is only going to go up from here, in my opinion. but all You know, as the years go on, And the different, you know, matchups you can, you can, you know, we can partake and see. I just think it's going to be good for the game. It's going to be good exposure and like you know, it can't do it. You can, it can't go wrong. It's mapping. You just, it just can't go wrong. So yeah, I think, I think it's going to be good for the game overall.
00:45:46
blackjag_3
Okay, cool. So now moving on to other topics, I think, you know, you know one thing we like to do is we like to.
00:45:52
Chuku
Sorry, I still had a topic. Remember I told you this, I told you I have a hot take guys.
00:45:55
blackjag_3
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:45:57
Chuku
No, before we go and skip on that. Yo, I'm just, I know we've had these conversations, you know, in the, in the background, you know, so the audience may not be aware of this, but man, I have a hot take, man.
00:46:10
Chuku
And, you know, y'all can let me know.
00:46:10
blackjag_3
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:46:15
Chuku
oh I think it's time to declare it, guys. I think it's time to declare it.
00:46:21
blackjag_3
oh boy
00:46:23
Chuku
The best goalkeeper this season in the EPL.
00:46:28
Emeka
Well, and yeah I think I say something crazy.
00:46:30
Chuku
David, no, I don't want to swear, but David Rhea is the best goalkeeper in the EPL so far this season.
00:46:41
Chuku
and I just want to just like let it be known, let it be aware. He's better now.
00:46:44
blackjag_3
I still.
00:46:45
Emeka
Is that even a hot take?
00:46:47
blackjag_3
I still think Allison is the best keeper in the Premier League, but I have never been so happy to be wrong on Ray. I will say that I've never been so happy.
00:46:55
Chuku
horum but but but war on no no but to make us more To vibe that, if I can feel like saying that's not, is that even a hot take? To me, that's crazy work because...
00:47:04
blackjag_3
I need to see i these hundred and five I need to see one.
00:47:05
Chuku
Listen.
00:47:08
Emeka
Because he said this season, so if it's just this season, so he's not going to hot take. Ry's been my father, but he's a goalkeeper. He's not going to close.
00:47:14
blackjag_3
Sure, sure.
00:47:15
Emeka
That's how I'm going to say, I might have happened with this hot take.
00:47:16
Chuku
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:47:19
blackjag_3
it's a hard
00:47:19
Chuku
We're watching, we're watching, we're watching the Verea become the best goalkeeper in the EPL period.
00:47:19
Emeka
I'm going to say something crazy.
00:47:26
Chuku
That's why, okay.
00:47:26
blackjag_3
I hope but he he's been unbelievable.
00:47:27
Chuku
i That's my take. That's my take. And let me tell you right now, he's coming for, he's coming for Allison.
00:47:33
Emeka
He's there.
00:47:33
blackjag_3
is
00:47:33
Emeka
That's what I'm saying. oh too
00:47:34
blackjag_3
but
00:47:37
Chuku
He's coming for, he's already buried in Edison. it might be I don't know what your thoughts on this.
00:47:43
blackjag_3
I agree with that.
00:47:43
Chuku
I think he's already buried in Edison.
00:47:44
blackjag_3
I agree with that.
00:47:44
Emeka
I agree with that.
00:47:46
Chuku
So as of right now, the only keeper is Allison.
00:47:47
blackjag_3
it's It's, I have to give, I have to give, who's that, that, that, uh, that Razi, that's the villa.
00:47:51
Chuku
Yeah.
00:47:53
Emeka
I mean, I'm Martinez. I'm not giving you Martinez yet, but...
00:47:55
Chuku
No, I'm not giving him over. I'm not giving Martina.
00:47:58
Emeka
yeah I mean, yeah it was this year's Raya, but like overall, like I'm not giving Martinez yet.
00:47:58
Chuku
I'm so sorry.
00:47:58
blackjag_3
camera
00:47:59
Chuku
I am not. I am not.
00:48:03
Chuku
I am not. I'm overall still giving, I'm giving him to Deverea still. I know, look, obviously the guy is one workup and he's done wonders in Argentina, cool, whatever, but I'm talking about in DPL, man.
00:48:14
Chuku
And I'm saying over the last two seasons, last season and watching what I'm seeing this season, I'm sorry.
00:48:19
blackjag_3
I don't know about last season.
00:48:21
Chuku
I'm putting Deverea over and I'm so sorry, man.
00:48:22
blackjag_3
This season, yeah.
00:48:23
Chuku
I'm so sorry.
00:48:23
Emeka
Again, this year, to me, he's not going to heartache in this year.
00:48:25
Chuku
He, y'all are sleeping. Damarilla had a, had a, had a great season last year.
00:48:27
blackjag_3
He did.
00:48:29
Emeka
He was golden glove, but he had the best defensive front of him.
00:48:30
Chuku
Great season. He won Golden Globe. Exactly. So I'm just saying it's not far fetched.
00:48:33
Emeka
He had the best defensive front of him.
00:48:37
Chuku
You are still making great, crazy saves. I'm just saying, and you're seeing that put into display even more this season. So anyways, I'm just telling you.
00:48:43
blackjag_3
Now this season, this season,
00:48:45
Emeka
I got to this season, it's not with debate this season.
00:48:47
blackjag_3
mis he is He's been on something else. i don't yeah like it's like To me, I'm like, man, this can't be sustainable because at least once a again, he's pulled off a Worldie.
00:48:58
blackjag_3
Once again, he's pulled off a Worldie. So yeah.
00:49:01
Emeka
Hey.
00:49:01
blackjag_3
I got to give you props for those of you who don't know the background. When this initial signing happened, not that we didn't like Roya, but Emeka and I didn't think That was where the party should have been at that time considering.
00:49:17
blackjag_3
deeper We just spent big money on him and Chuku has been there shouting from the rafters that Raya is the best keeper in the league. So I gotta give him his props.
00:49:27
blackjag_3
He's been seeing this from time from time. So I will give you that. I will give you that.
00:49:32
Chuku
I just feel, it just feels good to be right, see you know what I'm saying? It feels good to be right.
00:49:35
blackjag_3
Yes.
00:49:36
Chuku
Anyways.
00:49:37
blackjag_3
Are we going to mention the other 99 takes where you are horribly wronged on? We don't have time for that. We don't have time for that.
00:49:44
Chuku
yeah
00:49:45
blackjag_3
Yeah. well Yeah.
00:49:46
Chuku
Do what you may, but I will still be one of the ones that I'm right. But anyways, go ahead, continue.
00:49:50
blackjag_3
Speaking on potentially wrong takes, one of the things we like to do here is we like to keep ourselves accountable. We like to revisit things that we talked about in earlier episodes.
00:50:02
blackjag_3
so Chelsea fans, we're going to talk about Chelsea.
00:50:07
Chuku
Oof, yeah.
00:50:08
blackjag_3
We're going on Chelsea. But before we get to that, since Chuku, his head is big right now. And my brother, what's happening?
00:50:16
Emeka
I didn't want to say anything.
00:50:17
blackjag_3
What's happening?
00:50:18
Emeka
I didn't want to say anything.
00:50:20
blackjag_3
What's happening?
00:50:20
Chuku
Man.
00:50:21
blackjag_3
What's happening?
00:50:22
Chuku
Man. Boy, it's early days. It's too early seasons. seasons seasons But man, oh man, oh man.
00:50:28
Emeka
I said, what's up?
00:50:29
blackjag_3
What's going on?
00:50:34
Chuku
Am I looking hella wrong for that West Ham take? Look, you know what? He's good on Chelsea, man.
00:50:40
Emeka
It's early, man.
00:50:41
Chuku
Good on good on good on Chelsea.
00:50:41
Emeka
It's early. It's early.
00:50:42
Chuku
He's early. He's definitely early. He's definitely early.
00:50:44
blackjag_3
So.
00:50:44
Chuku
But the signs are there that, yo, I mean, I want to admit, signs are definitely there that Chelsea are going to finish a lot better than what we, at least the three of us in this panel thought they were they might finish, you know what I'm trying to say?
00:50:58
Emeka
Yeah, it's also the highest.
00:50:58
Chuku
so up
00:50:59
Emeka
Let's go back and check the tape.
00:51:00
Chuku
Yeah, true, true, true, true, true, true. But even then, even if you're high, what would you have in mind?
00:51:05
Emeka
i Seven or eight.
00:51:05
Chuku
Like, what's six? What's six?
00:51:08
blackjag_3
but
00:51:08
Chuku
Imagine.
00:51:10
Emeka
eight
00:51:10
Chuku
Imagine. Imagine. So, yeah, I mean, I wanted to admit, you know, it's early, it's too early, but, you know,
00:51:13
Emeka
i go the
00:51:17
Emeka
It's early. Stand strong, bro. Stand strong.
00:51:21
Emeka
It's early. It's early.
00:51:22
Chuku
Hey, I don't want to budge just yet because their defense, I mean, although they've come, it came through early. I mean, they're not really, if we're really deep, but they've not really had any major signature wins.
00:51:31
Emeka
Who would they
00:51:34
Chuku
That's what I'm going to say. That's what I'm trying to say, man.
00:51:35
Emeka
Let y'all thiss you' give it to all this shine because they beat your trust.
00:51:36
blackjag_3
Yeah.
00:51:36
Chuku
They've not really had any, any major signature win.
00:51:39
blackjag_3
So what i do want think what I do want to say, though, part of the reasons why we felt the way we did about Chelsea is mostly due to their transfer business and how was everything going to fit.
00:51:51
blackjag_3
I think that was the same issue. It's not like we didn't think they were signing talented players. It's but it's like, why are you signing this player when you already have this player there? And then you don't have to sell players. But I guess the other side that you don't see is because they've stuck up all these players,
00:52:08
blackjag_3
at least in the on the attacking side of things and to a sense in midfield, they have, now that I look at it to a different level, they have amazing depth.
00:52:16
Emeka
Oh, fantastic depth.
00:52:17
Chuku
Amazing.
00:52:17
blackjag_3
When you're bringing kunkunku, maduke, draw Felix, and metal off the bench, that is amazing depth.
00:52:18
Emeka
We have two 11s.
00:52:18
Chuku
mean
00:52:22
Chuku
Jean and
00:52:25
Emeka
Felix, Cassandra.
00:52:27
Chuku
Sancho.
00:52:32
Chuku
Yeah, it's crazy stuff.
00:52:32
Emeka
They are great depth.
00:52:34
blackjag_3
Yeah.
00:52:35
Chuku
You gotta give it to them.
00:52:35
Emeka
It's early.
00:52:36
Chuku
You gotta give it to them.
00:52:36
Emeka
It's early, comma.
00:52:37
Chuku
And then, and this, and yo, I saw the stats.
00:52:37
Emeka
Tranquilo. Tranquilo.
00:52:40
Chuku
Yo, I saw the stats. I can't believe it. Oh, go ahead.
00:52:43
blackjag_3
And because they're not in Champions League, I think it actually benefits them because, wait, man, you beat them for conference league.
00:52:53
blackjag_3
Which league are they in again? I can't remember.
00:52:55
Emeka
Air conference league.
00:52:56
blackjag_3
It actually allows them to rotate all these guys so they can actually keep them happy this year.
00:52:59
Chuku
yeah
00:53:01
blackjag_3
Sorry, Chip, I'll let you off. Go ahead.
00:53:02
Chuku
Yep No, no, it's okay. I'm always gonna point out was man Because we got to talk about this Jacksonville a see us all start the other day was Was it was one of us here that brought it up or yeah, I think it was your person
00:53:05
Emeka
Air conference league.
00:53:13
Emeka
Hey, I've I put the stat in there. Yeah, I put the stat in there.
00:53:19
Chuku
And I, yo, the guy has more goals,
00:53:23
Emeka
Non penalty goals.
00:53:25
Chuku
non penalty, non penalty, goals, keep on. Then some of the big name players that we, we have all accustomed to. I mean, if you don't mind going over some of those names there on the, on that list, I was shocked when I saw that stuff.
00:53:41
Emeka
Hey, I saw this has been a Jackson fan.
00:53:41
Chuku
i
00:53:43
Emeka
I'm i'm happy with the kid. people People, you know, when you miss chances a lot, they come on you and don't realize that you can only miss chances when you get chances.
00:53:54
Emeka
People sleep on that. It's hard to get chances. And if you consistently are in position to actually shoot and score, yeah, it turns out you go, you know, and this time my brother was talking about is that last two years, Nicholas Jackson has scored 18 non penalty goals.
00:54:10
Emeka
And that's more than Dominic Solanke, Alexander Isaac, Son Hong Ming, Mo Salah, and Kai Haberz. Not bad company.
00:54:18
Chuku
three That's not bad.
00:54:20
Emeka
Not bad company.
00:54:20
Chuku
looking That is not bad.
00:54:23
Emeka
And like Chino mentioned, you haven't cuckoo off the bench behind this guy.
00:54:24
blackjag_3
Look,
00:54:26
Emeka
that's That's pretty nice. That's pretty nice.
00:54:28
blackjag_3
look I'm not surprised. I remember talking early last year where I started digging into, you know I like to make sure I follow a large spread of people. So I do follow some some Chelsea fans and they were digging into some of the this underlying stats, showing some clips of Nicholas Jackson last season. And that's when I realized, oh,
00:54:49
blackjag_3
Yeah, you know what get tossed around on social media or some of his misses, but this guy's an actual problem and he's young. He's young.
00:54:57
Chuku
That thing is young!
00:54:58
blackjag_3
Sometimes some of these, some of some of these phenoms, um, bae you know, yaal now, you know, they, they, they sort of skew our perceptions. Nicholas Jackson is, is young and raw and all it takes is experience and faith.
00:55:14
blackjag_3
for these guys to blossom. I think this year he knows he's your question the unquestioned starting number nine. you know Last year they were still talking about bringing all these people and he's had one season there.
00:55:26
blackjag_3
This season I feel like he's playing with the confidence knowing that he's the guy and that is really showing.
00:55:30
Emeka
100%.
00:55:31
blackjag_3
I remember when I did, by the way, came in at Arsenal and this guy was looking like Bambi on skates. Yeah, you saw all the talent there, but it's like, is he going to put it together? And then all of a sudden, the next season, this guy just went supernova. So I saw i saw it coming. That's why to this day, I will always, and I guess the thing with Darwin Nunez is he's older. i still know All it takes is one season for everything to click and Nunez could be he already is still a problem.
00:55:59
blackjag_3
So yeah, no, good gift for the boy, you know, shout out to to my African boys, you know, I'm glad they're doing well. Yeah, no, he Nicholas Jackson is a problem.
00:56:08
Chuku
Yeah.
00:56:10
blackjag_3
And like you said, you know, he gets chances and they have a squad if Maresco uses them well, that should generate a lot of chances. So.
00:56:21
Emeka
Well, while we, uh, Connor and my brother, he wants to be proud about his takes. Have you seen how Ollie Watkins is doing so far this year?
00:56:28
blackjag_3
Watch, of you are getting to that, you are getting to that.
00:56:30
Emeka
You know, if we talk about takes, you see how Ollie Watkins is doing this year?
00:56:32
Chuku
Yeah.
00:56:34
Emeka
That's all I'm gonna say.
00:56:37
Chuku
He's starting to pick it up. He's starting to pick it up. But you see that young fellow behind him though.
00:56:41
Emeka
Hey.
00:56:41
Chuku
Might be looking, coming for his spot. As I want to say, that young fellow Duran, he's coming for his spot.
00:56:44
Emeka
Hey, your West Ham could have used them, you know? Your West Ham could have used them.
00:56:49
Chuku
They sure could. A lot of teams could have used him. Hell, Arsenal could have used him. I don't know. A lot of teams could have used that Duran player. But hey, no he's going to be a big name next year.
00:56:56
blackjag_3
I think seems like Arsenal will be in for him next summer.
00:56:58
Chuku
He's going to be a big name next summer.
00:57:03
Chuku
Hey, all I know is a lot of teams going to be in for him next summer because that guy is a
00:57:03
Emeka
looking like it man because can't stop scoring off the bench.
00:57:08
Chuku
balller
00:57:09
blackjag_3
And last one, but last one before I let you off on it, is Martinelli maybe just a bit better than Nudrzic?
00:57:10
Emeka
it
00:57:11
Chuku
baller.
00:57:18
Emeka
I couldn't believe what I heard there.
00:57:18
Chuku
See, this this conversation is, was yo, this conversation is crazy because yo, no, no, it's crazy because of of the the the statement of how you guys are taking what what I said out of context here.
00:57:21
Emeka
I couldn't believe what I heard. Yes it is crazy.
00:57:33
Chuku
All I said was Martinelli. All right, first of all, first of all, we're not going to act as though Martinelli has been a good this season. He has not been good.
00:57:43
Chuku
He has been, in fact, I use the word appalling.
00:57:46
blackjag_3
One second.
00:57:46
Chuku
He has been...
00:57:47
blackjag_3
Before you go on, I want to just clean just for my We haven't had a chance to talk to much. I thought he was great in the long the the North London Derby.
00:57:54
Chuku
I may need a degree.
00:57:57
blackjag_3
He didn't score his dribbles. I thought he had a really good game and then he had another really good game against City. So just because I think our generation has gotten, everything's about goals and assists now.
00:58:12
blackjag_3
i I remember when i I, I grew up in a time where nobody was counting assists like that. Nobody knew who had assist marks.
00:58:20
Emeka
We were counting assists.
00:58:20
blackjag_3
So yeah you have you had wonderers who all they would do is wasn't about stars they were ju and as' long as you a drer or had good highlights that was enough for you to to to to have that i don't even know what i'm talking about and we had yeah he had a thought on And he had a good game
00:58:22
Emeka
I don't think this... I was talking about counting assists.
00:58:37
blackjag_3
I will agree with you that he has been off, he's been pulled, he's been pressing.
00:58:45
blackjag_3
He's clenched a little bit too tightly when it comes to goal scoring, but I think that some of his other contributions and I think he's not been the world leader we hope to be at this time.
00:59:06
blackjag_3
him.
00:59:07
Emeka
Nah, obviously. Listen, Martinelli and Moochuk should only mention the same sentence, in the same paragraph, in the same essay. Like, no, I'm sorry. I was too far. That was too far.
00:59:21
Chuku
First of all, disclaimer. I still believe my finale is about to end, Mudrk. No one's ever saying that Mudrk is...
00:59:27
blackjag_3
The one you have to go is basically pizzas.
00:59:30
Chuku
What?
00:59:31
blackjag_3
The one you have to go is basically pizzas.
00:59:31
Emeka
I have the quote pulled up.
00:59:33
Chuku
Stupid things.
00:59:34
Emeka
The quote was,
00:59:34
Chuku
Stupid things. Please, please, for the quote.
00:59:35
Emeka
Martinelli is getting to music levels of watch.
00:59:36
Chuku
Thank you.
00:59:38
Emeka
That's the verbatim quote.
00:59:39
Chuku
Thank you. So, get into the key word. Key word. Please, please, please.
00:59:42
Emeka
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:59:44
Chuku
Let's not act as if English is not our first language, please. I'm so sorry, guys. Get into... Key word or key phrase in that sentence.
00:59:51
Emeka
oh No, no, no, no, never that, bro.
00:59:54
Chuku
Get in two. I do understand and I do, it's definitely that.
00:59:56
Emeka
Never that, chiku never laugh never level that, that.
00:59:58
Chuku
It is definitely that.
01:00:00
Emeka
that, never that, never that, never that.
01:00:00
Chuku
With all of the chances he's been putting away with some of the shots I've seen, this this guy cannot buy a shot on targets to save his life.
01:00:09
blackjag_3
but about
01:00:09
Chuku
Bro, his decision making, his decision making.
01:00:10
blackjag_3
jackson if
01:00:12
blackjag_3
got the
01:00:12
Chuku
Oh my God.
01:00:14
Chuku
I don't like this. Okay, go ahead.
01:00:16
Emeka
Listen, listen, listen.
01:00:16
blackjag_3
we back fact
01:00:18
Emeka
There are a lot of wiggers you could have used. A lot of forwards you could have used.
01:00:20
Chuku
Nah, I needed to show you that that name was perfect.
01:00:21
Emeka
You had to go to Vudryk. You had to go to Vudryk.
01:00:24
Chuku
Yes, I had to.
01:00:25
Chuku
I had to because that was the levels that I'm seeing people trade by a winger that I held to such a high regard that I at one point two or three years ago was comparing to saying I had a better potential potentially than Bakayo Saka, which now that feels
01:00:25
Emeka
no.
01:00:26
Emeka
Never that. Never that. Never that. Never that. Never that.
01:00:35
blackjag_3
We talked about the jacks. We didn't know about the jacks.
01:00:46
Chuku
It's horrible. That is a horrific take to be even bringing up our scene ah ah at this stage, years many years later.
01:00:52
blackjag_3
Do you know why you have you felt that way?
01:00:55
Chuku
Go ahead, why?
01:00:56
blackjag_3
We have 15 non penalty goals in the Premier League at what 20 years old ah Exactly The
01:01:01
Emeka
As a winner.
01:01:01
Chuku
What have you done since then?
01:01:06
Emeka
listen
01:01:07
Chuku
That has shown to be an anomaly. again again why are we so for oh my like I don't know you guys are shifting the like what I was always being said yes you are shifting what was being said because nobody is sitting here nobody is sitting here saying that okay go ahead
01:01:16
blackjag_3
but
01:01:16
Emeka
No, no, no, no.
01:01:18
blackjag_3
one is and You see that but well hold like one one one quite sorry i just need to that.
01:01:45
Chuku
It's, I don't, again, I stand, I stand 10 toes on what I said. And I still, I'm on that. under way I'm yet to be proven otherwise. If you think, uh, uh, uh, it's just the, uh, the quote unquote assists that he showed with California's goal is going to change my opinion on, on, on the stinker of a season that Martinelli has had so far this year.
01:01:55
Emeka
Oh, he's a good one.
01:02:07
Chuku
You're wrong. Cause it's not, it's not showing, not change anything to me. Look. One thing I would say ah ah to your point right earlier, yes, I agree. Martinelli, other than obviously what he's meant to do on the team, which again is to be a difference maker on the on the final third of of the game, other than doing that, which again is not done, he's not really been much of a difference maker in the final third of the season.
01:02:31
Chuku
He does help the overall team, which I'll give him credit. to He does help in the defensive side. He does know how to track back. He does know how to to to to pretty much be a very good team defender. But as far as in this system and what we lack and what we need, especially in this system, our wingers are very, very important when it comes to being a but productive offensive team in the league as we clearly see that you know obviously we know it's nice that we have these different options like you know corner kicks our defenders can chip in here and there you know but we can all acknowledge we do not have a quote-unquote killer striker like I love Haverts but again I can't sit here and say I expect Haverts to score
01:03:18
Chuku
20 plus goals in a given season. I just can't. just not and and I got to be proven i'm proven wrong on that point. He's not the the Norwegian machine that is Holland. So if that's the case, and we we can all agree that that's the case,
01:03:34
Chuku
Right? In this team, we are a team that functions with everybody chipping in when it comes to the goals and assists in the team, mainly the goals. And Martinelli, as of right now, sure, he's having a slump. But how long are we going to call it a slump? Even entering last season, he did not have a good season. In fact, since that 15 point or 15 goal non penalty goals performance,
01:03:59
Chuku
that he had when he was, what, 20, he is not shown that he can get past 10. 10 goals. He's not. So if if if we're going to sit here and act as if Martinelli has been a world leader or you feel like Martinelli is going to change and something's going to click and all of a sudden he's going to turn back into the 15 goal winger that he was a couple years back, okay, fine. Listen, I want to be proven wrong. I i really, in this situation and in this particular case,
01:04:29
Chuku
believe you and me, I want to be proven wrong. But until then, I can only go off of what my eyes have seen in this last few, especially this season. And like, my eyes don't lie to me. But as of right now, Martinelli is in a bit of a rut, is is a bit of a slump. He's not the same player that he's definitely not improved as a player over the last couple of seasons. And you can literally see Saka, literally the the like one thing I just does not help Martinelli at all in this case. is As much as I've seen Martinelli not improve as a player moving forward, still dribbling with his head on the ground, not being able to make proper decisions on a consistent basis. I look at the other side of the pitch and I've seen Saka blossom into a consistent
01:05:21
Chuku
footballer who can drop. We know what to expect with Saka. He gives us week season in, season out consistency of 20 plus GA. You can bank it in. He does this on a regular now. He's doing this on a regular. I'm seeing progression and this is something that I'm yet to see from Martinelli. So look, Hey, if, if, if things change, I'll eat my words and you know, call it a day. But until then, I'm so sorry. I stand 10 toes. He has been, god he has been,
01:05:50
Chuku
Maybe garbage is a harsh, but he has not been good.
01:05:52
Emeka
God, this is ridiculous.
01:05:53
Chuku
He has not been good. He's not been good. He's been approaching, approaching, not saying he's reached it, but he's been.
01:06:01
blackjag_3
my door have and exactly exactly
01:06:05
Emeka
I don't understand. My manager is a filibuster and said all of his nonsense that it was not relevant to what we're arguing about. Nobody said Martinelli is good.
01:06:11
Chuku
Okay.
01:06:12
Emeka
We're all talking about you saying he's getting to Mujic.
01:06:12
Chuku
Okay.
01:06:14
Emeka
So I don't understand all of those points. This point is all irrelevant because the main point is why you say Mujic? Why do you have to go to hyperball?
01:06:20
Chuku
Well, just going to have to agree.
01:06:21
Emeka
Why do you have to go to the the worst possible possible? I don't understand that.
01:06:24
Chuku
Because how bad he looks on the final, on the final third of things, that's how bad he's looked. That's how, that's how abysmal he's looked. You see Mujic going on he's in front of goal, taking a shot.
01:06:38
Chuku
often moving on like Just completely off the mark. That has been Martinelli these last couple of games. Are we not seeing the same? Hold on.
01:06:46
Emeka
I've seen this and I see the music.
01:06:47
Chuku
Was it the I believe it was the Spurs. No, yeah it must have been the Spurs game.
01:06:52
blackjag_3
<unk>to don it at Atlanta.
01:06:53
Chuku
The Spurs game. Or is this it Atlanta? Sorry, Atlanta. You're right. Sorry. That's the one. The guy had the point.
01:07:03
blackjag_3
so
01:07:04
Chuku
like oh But point being, the guy had clear opportunity like i'm not even asking in fact at this point i'm not even asking you to score just just work the goalkeeper just just don't don't make just put something on target my brother was putting the thing over like hey you can call me for the once the what i've seen like i said
01:07:25
blackjag_3
what With you on any of these you clearly know what we disagree with you on so it is or these And
01:07:31
Emeka
I don't know, this is filibuster. This is all just filibusters.
01:07:38
Chuku
I stand on my on what I said 10 toes. He is approaching. I looked to be approaching. I hope for his sake he does not get there, but he's been approaching those levels.
01:07:44
blackjag_3
You know that's and you know that's to me. I will say your takes approaching Anthony levels.
01:07:53
Emeka
I don't understand, but but i said bori i can't I can't accept this.
01:07:53
blackjag_3
I
01:07:53
Chuku
Okay, man. yeah That's your opinion. That's your opinion.
01:07:56
Emeka
Never that.
01:07:57
Chuku
So I never, you know, I can't, I can't, I can't afford your opinions, but I have my own opinion.
01:07:57
Emeka
Never that. Never that I haven't signed very much in Italy. I was the one sliding much in Italy in this fabled podcast No one's ever gonna hear I was the one slandering much Italy and yet here I am saying music is crazy That's
01:08:06
blackjag_3
yeah
01:08:09
blackjag_3
Yeah Yeah, I was going for stirring to spread ahead of him for not owning dirt because again, i I don't think he's been playing up the standards He's he's pressing he's struggling.
01:08:11
Chuku
Hey, do what you want. Do what you want.
01:08:18
blackjag_3
But yeah, I think hyperbolic is the correct word. I think I
01:08:22
Emeka
all it's just hyperbolic, but it's okay, man. It's okay.
01:08:25
blackjag_3
But that's why we love you, Chuku.
01:08:25
Emeka
It's okay.
01:08:27
Chuku
Hey, man.
01:08:27
Emeka
I
01:08:28
blackjag_3
That's why we love you.
01:08:29
Emeka
I couldn't say anybody else in the world had to say it. It's okay.
01:08:32
Chuku
Like I said, I saw parallel, parallel in the front of goal.
01:08:33
Emeka
It's okay.
01:08:36
Chuku
And, uh, yeah, I just had to bring that connection. That's what I'm going to say. I again.
01:08:39
Emeka
i've
01:08:40
Chuku
i hope I hope, you know, it doesn't get to that point. I hope he can turn things around because again, I'm sure as a fan base, you know, we have a lot of love for Mark Nelly and and not a lot of the, you know, experiences he's, you know, he's given us as an Arsenal fan, but man, oh man, oh man, boy, oh boy, he has not looked good this season.
01:09:00
blackjag_3
Yeah, this is a make-or-break season for him, in my opinion. and
01:09:06
Emeka
Oh, for sure.
01:09:07
Emeka
Yeah, man.
01:09:07
blackjag_3
yeah
01:09:07
Emeka
That is a high.
01:09:08
blackjag_3
yeah to make
01:09:09
Emeka
Hey, before we wrap up, we know it's been really long. I'm sorry, man. My man, you fans out there. Y'all ain't gonna get away with this. Five games in the season. Man United's goal difference stands a grand total of zero.
01:09:23
Emeka
This is my favorite strategy track of...
01:09:25
blackjag_3
They're not even in positive goal defense still.
01:09:27
Emeka
That's what I was... It's my favorite strategy track of...
01:09:31
Chuku
Yeah, at least you don't hold at least don't hold the league for goals, you know I'm saying these don't hold the league, you know, that's progress progress
01:09:34
Emeka
I'm sorry.
01:09:35
blackjag_3
It's been he's been where's that was that moon with that with that only it's been 84 years Wow, well, all right guys
01:09:41
Emeka
I can't, bro, man, you, speaking of childhood and back in the day, hating teams. I knew, man.
01:09:51
blackjag_3
Well, all right, guys, yeah, I think this has been a, you know, it's been a, it's been a great, it's been a great session, you know, gone a bit heated, passionate, I would say. but that's why we love football, you know, for better, for worse, you know, it always brings out the passion every one of us.
01:10:04
blackjag_3
So we're going to wrap it up here. Wow. Only an hour and 10 minutes. I think this is the best we've done yet. So, okay.
01:10:09
Emeka
Well, when I'll do a Game of the Weekend,
01:10:13
blackjag_3
Okay. Yeah. but let Let's do that.
01:10:13
Emeka
I'll just find out about you for it was a segue.
01:10:14
blackjag_3
thank yeahition Yeah.
01:10:17
Emeka
Because the Game of the Weekend is the my two least favorite teams in the world.
01:10:17
blackjag_3
Yeah.
01:10:20
Emeka
Go head to head. And Madden U versus Tottenham. Sunday, 9.30 our time. Any quick predictions before we we sign off?
01:10:30
blackjag_3
I want a a draw, three-three draw with somebody equalizing in the last minute. So at least there's pain on one side.
01:10:41
Chuku
Man, give me three, one, Tottenham, Tottenham. I want to see United tears and I want to see it, I want to see it heavily. So please give me Tottenham three, one.
01:10:54
Emeka
I guess so you I was going to say I want Manu to win too.
01:10:56
blackjag_3
but We want what do we think is actually gonna happen in the game? Is that what is that? Just what you want to do you think sometimes gonna be united 31?
01:11:05
Chuku
Remind me again, who's whom?
01:11:08
Chuku
menu okay I think most likely it'll be a draw because i just don't I just don't see, you know, I just don't see a team, one team, you know, getting the best of the other, especially with Nana being at home. But I want to see Tottenham win because I want to see United it just crumble and just, just, just, just continue their misery. But anyways, yeah, I'm going to stay. If you're asking me what I want, that's what I want. But if you're asking me,
01:11:36
Chuku
Again, your question of what I actually think is going to happen, I think we're going to, we're heading in for like a one, one, you know, yours zero, zero, one, one kind of kind of game here, you know, so I'll draw most likely.
01:11:49
blackjag_3
yeah michael
01:11:50
Emeka
works I don't know who I draw draw just to to draw Romero get sent off.
01:11:51
blackjag_3
Okay, amicus.
01:11:58
Emeka
You know something crazy happens. Let me just let me just let me just enjoy it. Let me enjoy the game. That's my all I want.
01:12:04
blackjag_3
Yeah.
01:12:05
Emeka
But why things would have to draw.
01:12:05
blackjag_3
yeah what sort more What do you think will happen?
01:12:09
Emeka
draw I just can't do two teams are struggling to be a draw.
01:12:13
blackjag_3
Yeah, I think if united yeah i just yeah i think just both the way both teams play it's gonna be i think it should be an end to end game it should be an end to end game yeah okay all right well we're gonna wrap it up here guys thank you so much for again for for for all the love for all the support you know we want to hear from you guys we have been hearing from you guys so appreciate that so you know that's that that's it from us sounding off
01:12:26
Emeka
I hope so.
01:12:28
Chuku
yeah hope so
01:12:44
Emeka
For the love of the game, not for the money or the fame, but for the love of the game. That's what you're tuning in this week.
01:12:51
blackjag_3
Join us next time. And on the flip side, we're going to get into some NFL.