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Embrace the Dark: Unveiling the Magic of The Storm Cloud Oracle and its Unique Symbols
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Welcome to The Bell Witch Podcast, a show that helps you to get 'Witching in the 21st Century'
In Moot Loot episode 61 of The Bell Witch Podcast, host Swailes welcomes guest Clare, creator of the fabulously gothic BoneArrow Jewellery Design and co author of The Storm Cloud Oracle deck.
They discuss Clare’s creative journey, the gothic inspiration behind her new oracle deck on Kickstarter, and her passion for animal protection—especially bats. as Clare rescues bats and rehabilitates them in her house, so beautiful! She really is the Gothic Bat Queen of BoneArrow!
The conversation explores witchcraft, the symbolism of misunderstood creatures, omens and the healing power of animals. Clare also shares insights into her jewellery-making process and the importance of community, creativity, and resilience in both art and spiritual practice. The episode blends magic, personal stories, and encouragement for fellow creators.
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Swales on Podcast Guest Management and Breaks
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Now then, witches and beautiful souls, welcome back to another episode of the Bell Witch Podcast with me, Swales, the Friendly Green Witch, a podcast to get you witching in 21st century.
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this is episode 61 and it is yet another moot loop because right i do this thing where i over compensate because i get imposter syndrome and i over book guests and then i have loads guests waiting for their episode and it seems to take ages and then i get really conscious of them waiting and then i'd have to do loads of moot loops all together because i've got such a backlog And also I'm getting ready to wind down for August now because as you know I have August off because it's just so busy with the kids not being at school and I honestly just don't have the spoons to do podcasts and a full-time parent without school.
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and it's also good for mental health so i do wind down and i'll probably put a little pre-made bonus halfway through august just to keep the the fire burning for you probably a patreon exclusive anyway this moot loot episode is absolutely fantastic i've had a really good run of guests recently this lovely moot loot guest is a goth lass called Claire from Bone Arrow Jewellery Design.
Claire's Bone Arrow Jewellery and Tarot Work
00:03:45
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She does amazing decks and a Kickstarter deck has just finished but she's gonna sell her deck in her shop and on her website and I encourage you all to go and have a look and fall in love with it because it is beautiful the storm cloud oracle and it is just so gothy it's a proper goth stream and it's full of omens and spiders and bats and silver linings and it's beautiful i think actually heard an advert from the witch wave and i went straight over to her instagram to have a look and was just sold i backed her straight away and then my imposter syndrome subsided and i messaged her saying jones
00:04:28
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And she was like, yes, absolutely. Which is always lovely to get a good response like that. And so that has been waiting around for me to produce. And here it is.
00:04:40
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We speak about ah beautiful designs, the tarot and the oracle decks. and bats and to be honest it was very tempting to just talk about bats because bats are blooming lovely aren't they i saw our bats recently at the zoo in northumberland when i went up there for the school holidays they have a tiny little zoo northumberland zoo and it's so lovely and it's like a little family run business and they had a bat enclosure there which i spent a lot of time in these bats were massive they were fruit bats but
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They were very lovely. It was daylight and they were just kind of hanging around. And what was really fun was when they had a wee, they turned the right way around so they didn't cover themselves in wee. And I just thought that were a clever me.
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Doesn't take much to impress this witch. Anyway, moving on. I hope you had a gorgeous solstice. Gosh, I've been such a busy witch since I last spoke to you.
00:05:38
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I went to Manifest with Matt Tweedy, who did the first ever Manifestation Festival up in Newcastle that I bought the ticket for ages and ages ago. And it was such a good day. And it is definitely going to be a podcast in its own right because I took so many notes and I learned so much and I want to buy yet more books.
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It was really well executed, if a little bit full on because it was like one speaker after another and there wasn't really much time to network. But I kind of like that because I didn't have to make a decision then who to miss, which is like the bane of my life when I go to stuff like this.
00:06:17
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I'm always making the wrong decision. Oh, it was good though. I had such a good time. I learned loads and time went so fast. It all turned out really well and I have a ticket.
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for next year's event, which I have a sneaky suspicion it may turn into a two-day event from all the feedback that the lovely Mart has been having. Then on the Friday, I got myself to York for the Interdisciplinary Witch Conference, Witches in Culture, History and Society. And that was on the 20th of June in York St. John's University.
00:06:56
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And that was a bit of a dodgy day. that I remember little stuff going wrong here and there and I missed the train. had to buy another ticket. But I wasn't going to let it dampen my day. I was just marching on ahead with a positive outlook on the day.
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And again, I had to make decisions about who to go see talk-wise because they all sounded so varied and so interesting and some things I'd never even thought of like,
00:07:20
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the wolf tone on instruments in black metal and how that can be associated with witchcraft. Amazing. I missed the entire morning talks because trains, but the afternoon was absolutely wonderful.
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And one of our guests was there. Yes, I heard a talk from Dr. Phil Lagarde, who a couple of episodes ago he was on talking about chaos magic and the lead scene in the 70s and 80s and a little bit of what he talked about in his talk was that as well sounds a bit like ah no a little bit this And I took a few flyers and hopefully we have a few new listeners from that day. So that's lovely. If you're here, welcome and thank you for tuning in.
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And then I got my train to Scarborough afterwards to spend the summer solstice on my mum's favourite beach, which is Scarborough. I got a lovely little Airbnb and a lit a candle for my mum.
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had a little picture of her, lit some incense and I found a gorgeous rock. I had a talk to her basically, had a paddle, had a talk to her, watched the sun go down past the ocean and felt this emotional release. It was a really beautiful day.
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And so I've come home feeling really refreshed, but also a little bit stressed because I had a pile of jobs left for me, which I'd just ignored basically.
00:08:48
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And I'm podcasting like a witch possessed because I've got bonuses to come out and choose. Final episode has come out of the trilogy. And I also needed to record under the cauldron of Woo for the Patreon. So it's all systems go.
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Very warm welcome to my my new paid members, Billy and Valerie Burnett. Thank you so much for supporting the Bell Witch podcast.
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And just a quick word on Patreon. I've been hearing from other podcasts which I listen to, such as The Real Life, Fairy Sightings and The Blind Boy podcast.
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They are advising not to join Patreon as a free member because you don't benefit, you don't get anything. but patreon get your details so they're benefiting and you're not mining your details pretending to give you something they're not giving you anything you know if you're not signing up as a subscriber then don't don't give them it i mean on mine you can join as a taster for a week so you get free week access and that's one of my settings you can do that and then before the money starts coming off you can change or cancel it no no worries
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I just thought that was worth saying. And also, if you do join the Patreon, do it from a browser on your phone or on your computer, because if you do it on Apple through their apps, Apple takes some money as well, which is proper sneaky and not a very nice thing to do. So save yourself some money and get it directly on the browser.
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Thank you so much for everybody that continues to support me. And I hope you like the new mini-sodes of the cauldron of woo. I've just done one on the moon. it was good fun.
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And I'm aiming for once a month on the first of every month. This is turning into a very long intro, I apologise for that. So, without any further ado, I shall hit play on this moot loop with Claire from Bone Arrow Jewellery.
00:10:50
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I realised after I'd recorded with her, a message is saying, oh gosh, I forgot to ask you a really good question, which was... Out of all the cards in the storm cloud deck, which is your favourite card?
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Claire replied, quick as a flash, well, it's the witch card, of course.
00:11:13
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Today on the Bell Witch Podcast, I've got a really cool guest. So excited. Welcome Claire from Bone Marrow. And you would say that. Bone Arrow Jewelry Design, a gothic extraordinaire and the creator of the Stormcloud Oracle on Kickstarter right now and a bat queen as well.
00:11:35
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A mother of bats, yes. bats, I love that. It's fabulous to have you on and the main reason you're here is because we're going to talk about your amazing oracle deck. That's your second deck.
00:11:46
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It is, yeah. Just wanted to say thanks for having me. I was very excited when you invited me. Very excited indeed. So happy to be here. Hi. So my first oracle deck, my second deck. So I made a tarot deck with my good friend Kerry Ward from Tarot Bella.
00:12:04
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ah She writes for Cosmopolitan and she's been a tarot reader for like 25 years. And I used to have a podcast with her actually called The Mystic Vineyard, which is now defunct. So we we dreamed up a crystal tarot deck a long time ago, years and years ago. We used to do a little series on Instagram where um she would do a tarot card and I would say what crystal goes with it, either to match the energy of it or to like ward you against the energy of it if it was like the tower or something black tourmaline um we kind of dreamed up this deck and then we looked into self-publishing it like I'm doing with storm cloud oracle and illustrators and stuff and we could not afford to do it it was going to cost us thousands so we kind of benched it and then in the meantime Kerry
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did her own tarot deck called the good karma tarot which did really well and so she pitched the idea to her publisher and they were like yeah sounds great let's do it so the crystal magic tarot was born was that before lockdown no that was almost three years ago all right when you said years and years ago was like wow god silly I've got self-diagnosed ADHD. I'm going through the referral thing, but you know how long that takes.
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So ah don't think time is relative. It's an illusion. i'll tell you, it's an illusion. I mean, it was years and years and years ago that we talked about it. had the first idea and then we didn't do anything with it. And then it's probably four years ago we started it. So it was a long time ago.
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And I know this deck, I have this deck somewhere. I buy and sell decks like on a vintage business type thing. Amazing. Guilt free shopping. That's all it is. And I have bought and sold this deck that you've created a few times. So I know it's quite a big one, isn't it? That's amazing. Yeah, it's kind of, yeah.
00:13:53
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A chunky one. Oh, cool. I'll have to send you one of the Stormcloud oracles when they're printed. Oh, I've backed it on Kickstarter. Oh, bless you. Thank you so much. So you learned a lot from your first deck and now you're doing the oracle, the Stormcloud oracle.
00:14:08
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The Stormcloud Oracle.
Claire's Oracle Deck Inspirations
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Yeah. So the first deck, I mean, I've discovered I don't actually like writing. About once a month, I'll have a flash of inspiration and I write really well, but the rest of the time it's like pulling teeth.
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So if it weren't for Kerry literally whipping me, the first tarot deck would never have got done. So there's a lot less writing in this one. I mean, Kerry wrote all of the tarot stuff.
00:14:32
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So I suppose really there is the same amount of writing, but I'm probably doing more of it. So the Oracle deck, It's a little bit freer. So you probably know the difference between tarot and oracle decks.
00:14:43
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Tarot decks are all very kind of scripted. though or Each card has its own meaning. And oracle decks, you can do what you want. So the Stormcloud Oracle is all like bad omens and feared creatures and unlucky signs and all the kind of things that like us goths are drawn table But some people find a bit like squirmy.
00:15:07
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like pigeons and spiders and those kinds of things lots of them I have as tattoos got like a dead crow tattoo and a spider and a beetle and all these kind of things that alternative types love but the normies are perhaps like no that's scary or no that's a bad omen so the the whole deck is made up of those symbols and So it sounds like quite a negative idea, but the idea is it's got a silver lining.
00:15:38
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Yeah, exactly. So it comes back to bats, really. So a lot of people are scared of bats and think that they're going to fly in their hair. They got blamed for COVID. People think that they are all vampires and stuff.
00:15:51
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And they've, like witches, they've just got really bad press. And actually, they're dead gentle. And they're like, really good pollinators. And they eat bugs and eat loads of mosquitoes. And if we didn't have bats, we'd be inundated with loads of flying midges all the time because a soprano pipistre can eat like 3000 bugs one night.
00:16:14
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bugs in one night So they're actually really important to the ecosystem. And if you've ever met one, you'll know that they're actually really sweet and lovely and fluffy and cute. And so it's really disappointing that people are so scared of them because actually they're lovely.
00:16:31
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And that was kind of the premise for the whole deck. Like all of these things like spiders and rats and a pendulum and the number 13 and all these things that people are like, oh, no, it's scary.
00:16:43
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It's all just misinformation and like... fake news whereas actually if you dig a little bit deeper there's actually some really cool things about it and so that's what the oracle deck brings like each one each card has got a lesson and like you said a little silver lining or a message of like courage or resilience so it's quite a hard ass deck Yeah, I feel like it is. It's very... um I've been doing readings for people with my deck.
00:17:11
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It's a prototype deck that I've basically got old business cards and wrote all the cards on because I haven't got one printed yet until everything's kind of in place and done and ready to print. So I've been doing readings with people to test the cards to make sure that they work in different readings and all the ones that come up. Like, they're not mean. They're just...
00:17:32
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they're not sugarcoating it. Like a lot of Oracle decks, as you probably know, are very like love and lighty and angels and pastel colors and affirmations and everything's amazing which is great if you need that that's lovely sometimes everybody wants a deck like that but sometimes you need a deck that's going to slap you around the face and give you a shot of tequila and push you out the door and be like go on you can do it and you're like okay like everybody needs a friend like that and I think everyone needs a tarot deck or an oracle deck like that I've definitely got a tarot deck that's like that
00:18:05
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I think a lot of tarot decks are like that. yeah They never sugarcoat anything. to so let's It's true. It's true. i have got um The Wild Unknown is a very gentle deck, I think.
00:18:17
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Yeah. Very kind. It is, yeah. I've actually got an oracle deck called The Roast Oracle and basic it basically tells you to get over yourself.
00:18:28
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Stop centering. Stop being white female tears. and i love it. I bloody love I love it. That does sound completely my energy. Sometimes you just need that, don't you?
00:18:39
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And deck, I've seen it or as it's getting its stretch goals and stuff. But aesthetically, it's absolutely beautiful. It really is. Thank you. That's Mari, so the illustrator. Mari, I've worked with for a few years. She's done loads of illustrations for Bonaro, my jewelry company.
00:18:56
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ah She's based in Argentina. She's beautiful. Her Instagram is witchofthewoods. The W's, the V's. Yeah, she's amazing. She trained in engraving.
00:19:06
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So her drawing style is is as it... The picture was to be engraved in metal for like copper plate. So yeah, but she's just like super super gothy, super dark, like slightly weird imagery.
00:19:21
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I just love everything that she does. So I've just been... giving her the symbol for the card and the little banner like few words of the banner the kind of tagline of it like it's wrapped up meaning and then just some things I give her a bit of direction on but otherwise just leave her to draw something spoopy is it a case of it's like a brief per card Not all of them. Some of them. Some of them I just give her the card number and like the three of swords.
00:19:51
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I just let her. She's going to do an amazing three of swords and a bat. I know she's going to do an amazing bat. A couple of them I've had to kind of explain or give reference pictures or something a little bit, which I've got hundreds of reference reference pictures from like graveyards and stuff.
00:20:09
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Oh my God, this sounds so good. I can't wait to get my hands on it. I can't wait. Kickstarter is such an addiction, honestly. Well, I backed the Marigold Tarot on Kickstarter many years ago.
Claire's Kickstarter and Future Projects
00:20:23
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and I found that like super exciting. It was amazing. And it was months and months and months before I got the actual deck. But I didn't mind because then it's kind of like a nice surprise when it comes in the post. so I'm really hoping that this will be a quick turnaround. But I also feel like I've probably miscalculated something.
00:20:39
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Yeah.
00:20:42
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um So we'll see. I've never done it. I've never done it before. I ran a Kickstarter. So my boyfriend is a photographer and cinematographer and he um we made a short film once and needed the budget to direct it.
00:20:53
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So me and one of our friends who's a producer for BFI now actually did a Kickstarter to get the money to make this short film and that worked, but it was a lot of work.
00:21:05
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I don't think it'll be my last, this one. Me and Mario already already planning a tarot deck. Are you? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Exclusive for you there. Thank you. I love an exclusive on the Bell Witch.
00:21:17
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Yeah. I mean, probably not for a couple of years. You know, let's let the oracle breathe for minute.
00:21:25
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00:22:11
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What other decks inspire you? Is there any that always come to mind when you work, even with your jewellery? I bet there's stuff that inspires you. That's an interesting question. So the Marigold Tarot by Amrit Bra, she's Canadian, is all skeletons and it's all black and gold. So it's all marigolds.
00:22:29
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skeletons. I love that deck. i love I love anything with like skulls on really macabre stuff. Definitely find inspiration from those kind of like gothic drawings, especially in my jewelry work.
00:22:44
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But also the tarot in general, like I've made collections around different tarot cards before, which is one of the reasons that I wanted to make the Crystal Magic Tarot. So some cards I feel like really resonate with a certain stone, like the Magician.
00:23:00
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I chose Jade for the Magician card because I feel like it's such a kind of lucky stone of like wealth and abundance. So I did a whole collection of um jade pieces that were kind of like for manifesting that exact magician energy.
00:23:17
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Is this so in the background? i can hear Every single time I started the podcast, this would happen. That is one of my rabbits, Zilla, who is chewing a toy.
00:23:28
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ah they have these like things made of like compressed wood so that they can chew their teeth on. Oh, she stopped. She's just been so quiet. And then as soon as I start recording something, she'd be like, I'm gonna um going to chew that toy.
00:23:41
Speaker
I'll move it off her. Who wants to be on the podcast? I was hoping you can hear it. I'm imagining a black rabbit no she's grey they're both they've got two so Zilla's a little grey lop-eared old lady she's nine now and then Pixel who is we call him perfect Prince Pixel because he never does anything wrong he's arrived he's like an apricot colour like an orangey kind of but like a soft sandy sandy coloured bun I thought because you've got you wear black you'd have like black fur If only because then I wouldn't have rabbit hair on me all the time would be perfect really
00:24:19
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Is there any witchcraft within your storm cloud, Oracle? Yes. I mean, funny you should say that, really, because i have infused so much witchcraft into it as I've been doing it.
00:24:34
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So I launched the Kickstarter on a new moon and it will be ending on on a full moon six weeks later. Any launch I do, I plan around the moon always. like Totally. And also, so I'd kind of written the, all of the card meanings and stuff and the booklet that comes with it I was just going to do a little intro.
00:24:52
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And then I was like, hmm, I could do a little spell in there and I could put a little ritual in. And so I've got a little Patreon gang that's like kind of bone arrow super fans.
00:25:05
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that are like my core, that everything I'm doing, I'm like, do you think I should do this? Or do you think i should do that? And I show them like stuff I'm designing and things and they kind of like chip in with what they think about stuff. So I asked them, like they've all obviously backed the Kickstarter. So I asked them, would you like me to put like a little ritual in there for doing readings? Or would you prefer like a spell so you can enchant the deck to you so that you get the best readings that you can and they were like both please so okay I'll do both so working on a spell at the moment I think it's going to be a sigil spell so obviously there the guidebook will have to beef up a little bit
00:25:44
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which means the box size has to change and stuff. So that's my next stretch goal. So I think we're at about 18,000, I think. so the next stretch goal is 22. And then we'll do that in with the guidebook.
00:25:59
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Did you just hear a Alexa then? No. Well, Alexa just went, hey kids, it's time for bed. And then then she puts them to bed. Great. a happy lady. Technology. ah be a happy lady technology So you could use the deck within your your own witchcraft, like as a user, as well as our ifff it divination.
00:26:21
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A hundred percent. Yeah. even um the Crystal Magic Tarot, I designed loads of spreads that are grids, tarot and crystal grids in the back.
00:26:31
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They're actually spells, but we didn't want to call them spells just because it was through like a publisher that, I mean, I think it would have been fine, but the main audience was America. So we didn't want to put people off.
00:26:43
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It's quite like a ah soft tarot deck. Zilla's nibbling my toes. So I use tarot in spells all the time as divination, but also, so I'll put a tarot card that whatever energy I'm trying to call in, whatever spell work I'm doing, like if I'm trying to manifest something, I'll use the magician card and a piece of jade.
00:27:05
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and a green candle and different herbs and stuff that I think correspond and I'll put all that on my altar and do my spell with it and I'll leave that card there for however long or if I'm doing like a money drawing spell I'll it's like a long-term money spell I'll use like the ten of coins or whatever energy I'm trying to work with if I'm trying to emulate the energy of one of the cards I'll pull that into my spell so definitely the oracle deck can be used in that way as well Can't wait to get my hands on it. It's going to be so bad.
00:27:35
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And you'll have to talk to me as well about your amazing jewellery because, oh my God, have you been a jeweller for quite a while? I have been, i always say, do you want the long answer or the short answer? But again, adhd doesn't really permit short answers. So you're getting the long one. So I have had the business, Bone Arrow, for 10 years, which is crazy.
00:27:58
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um And then before that, I actually did a degree in jewelry design and silversmithing like 20 years ago or something ridiculous. And then I didn't really do anything with it because one, I was actually quite shit at making jewellery.
00:28:14
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And two, I did not apply myself at university. That age is not the time to go to university. I don't think it's a waste. Anyway, I was a bit shit. And also the stuff that I liked, like gothy stuff, there wasn't really anything like that. And I wanted to work in the jewellery industry. i wanted to be a jewellery buyer. And I had an interview for Topshop Jewellery, I remember after I'd graduated, and I mean, I went for my interview and they made me rank stuff from like bestseller to worstseller.
00:28:41
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And I looked at some things and I was like, that is disgusting. That is the most hideous waste of materials I've ever seen in my life. No one's buying that. And it was all completely wrong. like and I thought the stuff that sells well and that people like, I do not like.
00:28:58
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I can't do this. And also everything was like gold. And I worked at the essay office while I was studying where they hallmark the jewelry. And all the stuff that came in was like QVC stuff. And it would be like, do you remember those clown pendants with like dangly arms and legs and big ruby eyes? And I was like, who is wearing this absolute tat?
00:29:18
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So the stuff that I wanted to make, I remember like drawing logos for my jewellery brand I wanted to create in like 2003 when Shopify didn't exist. You had to code your own website if you wanted to use one.
00:29:30
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Obviously I couldn't do that. So I just thought it wasn't possible. and So I kind of benched it for a long time and I went and did loads of other jobs and worked in an office and I was makeup artist for a while lots of different things until I was in my 30s and then once I realized that nobody knows what they're doing and everyone's just making up as they go along I was like well fine then I'll just make up a jewelry company and just start doing it so I did and that was 10 years ago and now I've got an actual shop and employees and send orders out all across the world and yeah
00:30:04
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Such a dream. I also studied metalwork and jewellery at Sheffield Hallam. Did you? I nearly went to Sheffield Hallam. Yeah, and I graduated in 2012. This isn't very witchy, but I tried to be a jeweller for maybe be four years before I had my first baby. And it was just really hard.
00:30:24
Speaker
It was just so hard to make any living. in And I was working 12-hour days. This room actually used to be my workshop. Did it? Oh my gosh, that's amazing. The bench peg and I'd do the the ah trade sales and the craft sales and oh God, it was horrible. I heard everything about it. The best bit was making the jewellery and everything else sucked.
00:30:46
Speaker
Yeah, it's really hard. It's really hard. So for the first five years of Bone Arrow, I had a plan that I wasn't going to take any money out of the business for five years. I was just, I think I'd said four actually, but it ended up being five.
00:30:59
Speaker
Any money I made, I put back in. So I started with a really little amount of money to buy like the stuff. It's really hard. Jewellery is such a luxury. you know You don't walk around a craft shop, a craft stall and be like, I'm going to spend £200 on this piece right now.
00:31:15
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yeah People have to think about it and buy it for loved ones for big birthdays. And yeah and then you've got stuff coming in from China, from India. it's like, dumb how am I going to compete with that?
00:31:27
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so I saw a necklace on Etsy. Yesterday that was, can't remember what the necklace was, but it said it was 18 karat gold and it was a little pendant on a chain and it was 50 quid. And I was like, you can't even buy 18 karat gold chain for 50 quid.
00:31:44
Speaker
Try doubling it. I've had more money buying and selling decks and magic and stuff. That's amazing. don't do it so much now, but in lockdown, I was raking it in. I bet you were. Well, that's when Bone Arrow took off, really.
00:31:58
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ah just opened the shop in, i got the keys in January 2020. And then i was working on a film. So I was still working as a makeup artist then. And I worked on a film right up until like until lockdown pretty much.
00:32:10
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So I couldn't really open the shop properly. And also I was doing classes as well. And loads of people had booked classes and had to cancel them all. So that was a nightmare. But loads of people just were like buying shit online and ordering stuff to their houses. So suddenly ah had loads of orders coming in.
00:32:29
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golden days they were yeah yeah at the same time my dad was dying so it wasn't all roses but you know because I worked for myself I was able to keep working so that was like a real blessing I i moved in with my parents for a little while for a couple of months in lockdown to help my mum look after dad and I took a little workbench with me and I worked from there so while dad was like sleeping and stuff and mum was shut in her bedroom because she had covid and it's not at all funny it was like a nightmare but you know we live in them i would be downstairs like really quietly hammering so as not to wake anyone up so it say it really saved me because that could have been like the darkest of all times but i had my little workbench so oh bless you and now look at you now now look at where you are amazing
00:33:19
Speaker
Is there magic in your jewellery as well, the process? A hundred percent. So again, i use jewellery in my spells all the time. Why would you just use a crystal that's a tumble stone when you've got one that's in a ring that you wear every day that's like infused with your energy?
00:33:36
Speaker
And I make jewellery that has the specific reason of being a talisman. So when my dad was dying, it was very stressful. And I really needed grounding. So I made myself this huge smoky quartz pendant on a big chunky chain. I wore it every day. And if I started getting a bit overwhelmed or stressed or upset, I would hold on to it.
00:33:57
Speaker
And I really felt like that smoky quartz really helped me through my grief and through that really tough time. And I've got a ring that is like has a protection charm. It's enchanted with that every time I put it on,
00:34:12
Speaker
That's my little like bubble of protection around me. I've got a Whitby jet ring that I carved the Whitby jet myself, which is another defensive piece of jewelry. So all of my jewelry is serve some kind of dual purpose and all of the stuff I make.
00:34:29
Speaker
I just made some pendulums that double as a necklace, but then you can switch the chain over and use it as a divination pendulum as well. Will there be some jewelry to go alongside the Oracle deck?
00:34:41
Speaker
This is like you're reading my mind every question. Like you've been in there, haven't you? Ferreting around like, oh what's in this box? Let's open that. Yes, I'm working on a little storm cloud pendant and I've got, this is very exciting, I've got two pieces of cloud-shaped onyx, black onyx.
00:35:00
Speaker
but I'm going put, they're so, they're amazing. I'm going to need to try and find some more because these are going to be some pretty nice one-of-a-kind pieces. They're going to have a little silver lining around them. Loads of the emblems that are in the Oracle deck are already stuff that i use in my jewellery all the time, like skulls, evil eyes, bats, daggers, like all of my jewellery has these elements in them anyway.
00:35:24
Speaker
So I'm hoping to kind of have her have a library. of symbols that you can choose from and kind of create your own little spell on a signet ring or on a pendant and pull in like i need a dagger for protection and I need the evil eye and then this stone make your own little spell with them I like the little snakes. You know, you got that little snake jump rings.
00:35:48
Speaker
Oh my God. Fiddly little bastards. Yeah. I started with a bracelet of chunkier snakes as a bracelet and then I made it as a necklace and it's got like 44 snakes and eat the tiny ones you have to solder, which is annoying, but the big ones you don't. You can do them with pliers.
00:36:07
Speaker
They cost hundreds to cast and hours to make, but they're amazing. bit obsessed with like Ouroboros or Ouroboros, whichever you say. ah snake eating its own tail. They feature in my work a lot.
00:36:21
Speaker
the In the deck as well. And there's one in the deck. a There's one in the deck. Yeah, that was a tricky card. So, mean, the meaning of it is the the unity of all things. And I was like, how can I use this in a reading, though?
00:36:35
Speaker
And so Mari drew one and i was like, I i can't, i I need to change the meaning of this. I can't quite make it work. And then she did the drawing. And I was like, oh, my gosh, this is amazing.
00:36:46
Speaker
i need to write the meaning based on the card that you've drawn rather than the other way around. That makes sense to me, actually. Drawing the art and then doing the meaning. I guess that's because I'm more of a creative brain rather than an academic brain. Yeah.
00:37:02
Speaker
I mean, a lot of them, the meaning is so like intrinsic in what it is anyway. Like the skull. Mari drew a really nice setting for the skull. There's a black sheep and it's so cute. It's so cute. I know this little black sheep.
00:37:18
Speaker
I'm very excited. We've got about, i think Mari's done... about almost half of the cards now so due to a couple of stretch goals it's now a 52 card deck it was was going to be 44 and then we did a couple more stretch goals and now it's 52 so that feels like a nice number isn't it one every week of the year exactly So magical.
00:37:41
Speaker
I would say what else should I ask you about your personal magic, like your personal witchcraft, not for work, but for your, your free time. So what kind of witchcraft you do kind of, which would you say you are?
00:37:53
Speaker
I'd say definitely an eclectic witch. I do a lot of animal protection magic. Ends up being the way when I've got a bat that needs some help or one of the bunnies is ill or...
00:38:11
Speaker
Jack the dog went missing. I feel like I'm always petitioning St. Benedict, like, here's Benedictine on the altar. Please, can you help me with this animal and make it better?
00:38:22
Speaker
Definitely a patron saint of mine and all the animals. Or if a bat's being released, I have a little, like, sigil that sometimes I put on their release box. before they go i've got a little crossing over spell that i recite anytime someone dies do you know what i even say it when i have to kill mealworms i'm a vegan i have to kill mealworms or send them to their death because that's what the bats when they're in care eat which in the summer when i've got like loads of baby bats that i'm weaning off milk they have puppy milk not from puppies obviously
00:39:01
Speaker
puppy milk formula there's nobody milking puppies in this house and then I have to wean them onto mealworms I have to chop the heads off hundreds of mealworms every night it's the worst and I i do a little crossing over spell for the mealworms because i feel so bad for them but I give them a nice life while they are here rather than sitting on the shelf in a pet store Yeah, lots of animal magic.
00:39:24
Speaker
I always say it's very disappointing with my name being Claire that I don't have any of the Claire's. I'm not a clairvoyant or a clairaudient or any of them. i don't feel like I have any psychic powers.
00:39:37
Speaker
But I have managed to... create a very magical oracle deck that when I do a reading for people the right cards come out at the right time because sometimes I mean it's always the same with tarot so this is probably my best witch skill if you pull a card in a certain position and if you'd pulled it in the position before it would not make any sense But it makes perfect sense in that one position.
00:40:01
Speaker
So that seems to happen quite a lot. And then otherwise, lots of nature magic, really. I'm always out, out in nature, picking things up off the floor. I found a really cool shell in the river the other day.
00:40:13
Speaker
The River Trent is littered with shells. And I'm desperate to see an otter. A fisherman told me there's otters in there that he sees all the time. And they must, like, eat whatever's in the shells.
00:40:25
Speaker
and But I've never seen one. But I have have been collecting their shells recently. So... thing. They come out at dusk don't they otters? Do they? That is the top right of um off I'm sorry I've got to go that's a top tip.
00:40:39
Speaker
I'm sure and remember but going on holiday with my mum years ago and there were an otter spotting like an activity or something and we sat there and watched for hours and hours. was We didn't see see one?
00:40:52
Speaker
No we didn't but there were loads of people waiting around just as the sun went down and i always remembered that. Interesting. Okay, I might go for a little twilight walk.
00:41:03
Speaker
Oh, that would be nice. It's just a nice thing to do anyway, isn't it? i mean Exactly. Out there when the sun is on its way down. So you've hinted to this a lot about bats. Do you work at a ah shelter or a rescue or something?
00:41:18
Speaker
ah So my spare room is a bat shelter, a bat hotel.
Claire's Work with Nottinghamshire Bat Group
00:41:22
Speaker
ah No way. What? Yeah, there's one in my spare room. He's called Nigel. He's in there now. He'll be wanting some food soon, actually.
00:41:30
Speaker
So I work with Nottinghamshire Bat Group. So most counties, there is a, are you South Yorkshire? I'm West. west West Yorkshire. There will be a West Yorkshire Bat Group. There is definitely a South Yorkshire Bat Group.
00:41:42
Speaker
ah So most counties have a Bat Group. It might be, ours is quite big. We've got quite a lot of carers and some of them are quite small. But basically, we are a ragtag bunch of people who are either into like conservation and so do stuff like put up bat boxes and do bat checks and kind of like make the areas that bats live in great.
00:42:04
Speaker
Or bat carers who... um look after sick and injured bats and rehabilitate them and release them back into the wild and that's what I do so there's a national bat helpline that if you find an injured bat or sometimes they just appear in people's houses usually in the bathroom we get lots of them in people's baths for some reason I don't know I don't know how If you find a bat in the daytime or a bat that's grounded and doesn't seem to able to fly, there's a bat helpline you can call and they will take your like postcode and stuff and look up where the nearest carers are and then put you in touch with them.
00:42:40
Speaker
And then the carers will come and get the bat and assess it and sort out its injuries if we can and then release it back into the world when it's better. So that's what you do. You go and pick up the bat, bring it home and assess it. Do you take it to the vets?
00:42:54
Speaker
Yeah, they go to the vets. So we have a vet in our bat group that sometimes if it needs an x-ray or something, we go to her. She's great. had to take a swan to her once and that's a different story.
00:43:05
Speaker
If you've got a really good wildlife vet, then that's great. The most common thing we have to go to a vet for is to have a bat put to sleep. If it's like usually been attacked by a cat and it's got really bad injuries that We can't, it's not going to survive like broken limbs and stuff, then it has to go and be put to sleep because it's the kindest thing to do.
00:43:24
Speaker
But if they're rescuable, if they've got only small injuries, sometimes they're just dehydrated, especially when it's like spring and they've just come out of hibernation.
00:43:35
Speaker
and they haven't eaten for a long time and they're probably really thirsty then we get a big peak we've had loads of bat calls this week because the weather's been hot of bats that have kind of can't quite cope we get when it's pop season we get hundreds of calls of like baby bats that have wandered off or fallen out of their roost or been abandoned by their mom for whatever reason and sometimes and then we sometimes we have to hand rear them, that aforementioned puppy milk.
00:44:04
Speaker
But yeah, so at the moment I've got one bat called Nigel the Natteras bat. He is super cute. He had quite a severe injury. So he's been in since November and he his injury has all healed. He's got a big scab on his arm that's impeding his flying a little bit, but he's just kind of having to learn to fly again.
00:44:24
Speaker
After that is all, it was basically like his arm was degloved. It was a bit gross. He's done really well. So yeah, he's been in my spare room for months. Oh my God, I find it incredible that I've got so many questions.
00:44:38
Speaker
It's like, if you hand rear them, can you still release them? Yeah. So bats grow up so quickly. One week of their lifetime is the equivalent of like three years of a human's life. So in their first week, they learn all the stuff that a baby human baby learns in the first three years.
00:44:57
Speaker
And then their second week is like three to six. So if they're not with their mom and around other bats, they don't learn how to bat. So if they can't be released back to where they came from, which if they were a baby and they couldn't fly when we got them, then they can't because their roost will have moved on. They won't know their way around and stuff.
00:45:16
Speaker
So we make a new cohort with them and put them in with other baby bats. So hopefully they can learn from each other. And then we released that whole group together. So last year we released 17 bats that were hand reared from babies into um a gorgeous park with bat boxes in Radcliffe on Trent.
00:45:36
Speaker
And so they they go and live their lives in the wild there. But they have they have to go to flight school. So I'm usually the wiener. so Different bat carers have baby bats. And once they get to the stage, we have to feed them through the night, like actual babies, sometimes every few hours, like wake up and go and milk feed them with the bats, which is a lot.
00:45:56
Speaker
And then once they get weaned and they're starting to fly, then they go on to flight school, which is another bat carer, Alex, who takes them off of flight school. So we'll kind of get them doing like different exercises and trying different things, like finding their wings.
00:46:12
Speaker
And then she has a flight cage in her garden, which is like a big outdoor, kind of like a big bird cage. Are they called aviaries when they're birds? Yeah. yeah so she has like a big one of those with bat boxes in that they can fly around and like hunt.
00:46:27
Speaker
So we make sure that they can fly. They can look after themselves. They can fly up from the ground and they can hunt. And if they can do all of that, then we we can release them back.
00:46:37
Speaker
Oh my God, it's amazing. How amazing would your life be to have pet bats? That is my God, it's incredible. I'm really, really into the idea because you see it, don't you, on TikTok, like there's a goth with a bat.
00:46:52
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like it on the bedhead and all that. I mean, it's not quite as glamorous. I mean, I wish it was as much of a photo opportunity as that. But we have to wear gloves when we handle them because there is like a really, really small risk of rabies.
00:47:09
Speaker
There's less than 1% of bats have rabies. um and they'd have to like really bite you for so we have to have rabies vaccinations we have to wear gloves when we handle them and we have to wear masks as well because we don't want to give them any of our germs like god forbid bats actually do get covid off us i'd love to have like a little bat that just sits on my shoulder i mean sometimes nigel if i'm wearing my dungarees and he's flying he does try and climb into the pocket and Oh my god And sometimes they will land on you.
00:47:42
Speaker
it it's doesn't look quite as goth when you've got like bright blue surgical gloves on and a face mask. Not going to had the black, no, the blue. Yeah. I did have some black ones for a long time, but we found these new blue ones that are super tough.
00:47:58
Speaker
Maybe I'll put the black ones on top of it. But the because the bats are so dark as well, it's really hard to see what's glove and what's bat.
00:48:07
Speaker
That's the quote of the podcast. Oh my God, they are so cute. yeah They are so cute. A real life Mavis or something, you know, from the Hotel Transylvania. Yeah.
00:48:21
Speaker
I love Hotel Transylvania. We get bats just out the garden from May, so they're going to turn up any time soon, you know, to eat the bugs. Yeah, yeah. Sit outside, just, well, not outside, because they won't come if outside, but at the window looking at them and there's just like swooping around. Yeah, I've got a couple in my garden.
00:48:40
Speaker
I love it. I love watching them out in window. I'll be watching TV because I've got, um this is my office library bun room. There's TV. I'll be watching TV and then I'll see bats outside and I can't get through a show like in the summer because I just keep pausing it so I can watch the bats.
00:48:56
Speaker
Yeah, they are amazing and they're so magical, aren't they? They're so magical and they're so sweet and each different species has a different temperament as well. Witchcraft-wise, do you know what the bat represents?
00:49:08
Speaker
Yeah. So I don't know if they're really tied to, in from the research that I've done for the Stormcloud Oracle, i found bats being kind of tied to witches in the same way that the devil is.
00:49:24
Speaker
So they're very much associated with, everyone knows the vampire associations, and witches. death being a harbinger of death like everything is like crows are and magpies and everything really and quite an unlucky omen but then weirdly in other cultures like in china bats are seen as good luck and if a bat flies into your house it's supposed to be really lucky which I think is so nice. There's loads of, even like rats in China are like a lucky symbol because they mean new beginnings because they're the first, the first animal of the zodiac. So they bring in a new start.
Cultural Perceptions of Bats
00:50:04
Speaker
And then in, in different cultures, like in a I think I read in one culture, they're seen as a rain bringer. So yeah, Apart from the really silly stuff like bat's wings and eye of newt kind of things that I haven't found any like witchcraft ties.
00:50:23
Speaker
It's mainly like vampire stuff because there is three species out of like 1400 of vampire bat in the world. They generally suck the blood of cattle and stuff and not humans really.
00:50:36
Speaker
And they're the ones that Maze Dream Society focuses on. Yeah, like witches. The mean ones are the ones that everyone focuses on, but we're not all like that.
00:50:47
Speaker
It's the same for snakes. I mean, I've got massive love for snakes. and about I saw you've got a new snake. Yes, yes, it changes beautiful. And I've had them ever since I was maybe 15 and they mean so much to me and they're just so misunderstood. And yeah my two snakes are so love vein people loving. a snake be loving? Yeah.
00:51:09
Speaker
But she is, you know what mean? She wants to feel my heart. She brings a little face up to my cheek and like, You know, a little tongue goes on Cute.
00:51:20
Speaker
I feel like the energy that you give out is what you get back from animals a lot of the time. So I think when people are like, I feel the same about spiders. To me, a spider is like the cutest, friendliest looking thing.
00:51:34
Speaker
So when people are like, oh, a spider, ah don't get it. No, I don't get it either. I don't mind spiders. They're fine. Yeah. There's nothing really. I don't think there's anything I don't like. What moths?
00:51:47
Speaker
Yeah, no, they're all right. don't mind them. They do scare me little bit. Oh, they? they're a bit erratic the worst insect for me that i will squeal and run away when i take i can't I really try not to it's daddy long legs crane flies how weird is that my mum used to be scared death of daddy long legs I can't because they're they're so erratic and they will fly at you into your hair this is what people say about bats but they will they'll fly at your face I think if I were to pick something, probably maggots. Like, I wouldn't want to touch them or anything.
00:52:22
Speaker
Right. Anything that, you you know, like a worm and it wriggles fast. That makes me go like... really little But they're kind of like mini snakes. Nah. No, know no.
00:52:35
Speaker
No, that's not going to fly. Nice try, but no. yeah I do Reiki, Reiki healing. I've been thinking about doing animal Reiki, actually. Yes.
00:52:47
Speaker
Because when I go to people's houses with my little tools and my bed, they'll be laid down and the cat or the dog will just come and sit on them and want me to put my head on. No way.
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah. So it feels like the universe kind of like prodding me going like even this way. Do it. I don't know if need anything special for animal Reiki because I'm not, I'm only qualified in like human Reiki. So I don't know.
00:53:14
Speaker
I bet you just have to like tune into it in a, in a different way. I think the chakras as well are more balanced anyway, you know, because they're not upright, they're horizontal. Yeah. There's a theory that the chakras work better horizontal because there's no, you know, like you got to bring it up. It's all like lineal.
00:53:32
Speaker
That is a good excuse for staying in bed longer. If ever I have one, I need to be horizontal more. Yeah, totally. I think it's true, because the animals... It makes sense.
00:53:45
Speaker
And when you're with animals, they do lift your spirits, no matter what animal it is. They do. It's been is proven that if you... Like, stroking an animal lowers all of your, like, metrics. I don't know which, but... Yeah.
00:54:00
Speaker
Calms you. People who have pets live longer lives and are less stressed.
Claire's Witchcraft Practices
00:54:04
Speaker
I know this, yeah, I need a dog. I'm manifesting a dog. Oh, you can have one of mine. I've got two. I've got too many.
00:54:12
Speaker
They're mental. Daisy's a 10 year old springer spaniel and she has got no chill. She just wants to play ball 24 hours a day. If you get up in the night and go downstairs, she's like, ball?
00:54:27
Speaker
Oh, bless. Coming up to 50 minutes, that has flown. Can you plug yourself, plug the Kickstarter? Where can we find you? Okay, cool. So the Stormcloud Oracle is, you can find it if you type it in into Kickstarter and it will bring it all up. There is 10 days as of now.
00:54:45
Speaker
I don't know when this podcast going to go out. Kickstarter finishes on the 12th of May, I believe. So you can find it there. You can follow the Stormcloud Oracle on Instagram. That is Stormcloud Oracle.
00:54:57
Speaker
And you can follow me at Bone Arrow. I post pictures and videos of bats sometimes as well. So you can find them on. The Bone Arrow account. I did have a separate personal account, but it all just blurred into one. So I just post bad stuff on Bone Arrow. They get more views than any of my jewellery.
00:55:14
Speaker
oh What's your jewellery website? ah It's bonearrow.com. So B-O-N-E-A-R-R-O-W. ah w not bone marrow do you know people think it's bone marrow all the time someone came in the shop today and they were like oh look a bone marrow t-shirt and i was like no but um I don't I don't know why I called it bone marrow it just popped into my head and I saw the logo and everything and I was like well that's what it's called like it it didn't come from me it came from downloaded from somewhere and then every time before it was like established if you googled it it said did you
00:55:53
Speaker
marrow jewellery. Nobody wants bone marrow jewellery. really don't. I bet exists. I bet somebody's got a bone marrow jewellery. I bet they do. At uni, I made loads of jewellery with bones. I sliced up some cow thigh bones.
00:56:10
Speaker
It was gross. There was a lot of bone marrow going on there. It was disgusting. But it made some cool jewellery. Which you wear every day. I mean, I wasn't vegan then, so... So yeah, you can find me at Bone Arrow on Instagram.
00:56:25
Speaker
Bonearrow.com is the website and the Stormcloud Oracle on Instagram. Thank you. I've had a really lovely time. It has really flown by. um my God, little bats. Little batties.
00:56:37
Speaker
I'm going to go and listen to all of your previous podcast episodes now. Well, be gentle because the first lot are not great. and well I do get better. as That's always the way. Whenever I used to start a new podcast, I used to start at the beginning.
00:56:50
Speaker
And then I was like, no, you start from the latest one. And then if you really like it, you go back to the beginning, give them a little bit of grace. like This was another reason we stopped our podcast. The sound was terrible. everything Everything was terrible. There was always a bunny chewing something in the background.
00:57:09
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