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Week 4: Protect College Sports Act, Big Ten Shakeups & Hot-Seat Coaches

The NCAA Report with Uncle Don and Crum

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Donald Glenn: Gateway 4. Ladies and gentlemen I've got it. Do you love college sports as much as I do? Are you always wondering where you can find the latest NCAA reports?

Donald Glenn: when you come to the right place. Welcome to the flip band. the ncw and i Okay that sounds kind of easy.

Crum: That sounds kind of interesting.

Donald Glenn: Thanks.

Donald Glenn: you got to get it done

Crum: is for your own good

Donald Glenn: inly or here they are

Crum: Here's my arm.

Donald Glenn: Well, hello, folks.

Crum: Hello folks, how you doing tonight?

Donald Glenn: How you doing tonight? We've still got to get that intro fixed.

Crum: We've still got to get the info fixed.

Donald Glenn: I'm sorry.

Crum: I'm sorry.

Donald Glenn: it's it's It's still not the right intro yet, but we're working on it.

Crum: This is not at the right. period yet We were.

Donald Glenn: You know, I'm

Crum: you know um I've got to get my...

Donald Glenn: I've got to get my... My crack.

Crum: My crack.

Donald Glenn: audio team on that and we'll get a new one recorded.

Crum: <unk>g that that in that will get it code recorded So.

Donald Glenn: So. This is the NCAA Report with Uncle Don and Krum alongside me tonight, as always, my partner, Gary Cromwell.

Crum: This is the...

Crum: I love you. side. No, it's not. which is my partner, Degris Brown.

Donald Glenn: The myth.

Crum: The myth. the man of the legend

Donald Glenn: The man, the legend of Homer basketball.

Crum: Going with that, right?

Donald Glenn: i'm going I'm going with it.

Crum: Okay.

Donald Glenn: It works.

Crum: Wait, caught me off guard with that one.

Donald Glenn: i' i guarded I try.

Crum: i think Yeah. i tried very hard yeah

Donald Glenn: I try very hard to catch you off guard.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: How you doing tonight, Crump?

Crum: I'm doing well.

Donald Glenn: I'm doing well. Good to be back here again.

Crum: Good to be back here again.

Donald Glenn: Yep.

Crum: yep

Donald Glenn: The other weeks went by and were.

Crum: Another week's went by and we're... Oh. Going to look over week four.

Donald Glenn: over week four Yeah.

Crum: uh Big week five coming up.

Donald Glenn: Big week five coming up. Yeah we do, yeah we do.

Crum: Yeah we do. How are we doing? One thing when you...

Donald Glenn: One thing I want to get started with before is we are...

Crum: before is uh we are

Donald Glenn: I suppose that we are streaming on YouTube tonight.

Crum: I suppose we are streaming on YouTube tonight.

Donald Glenn: Uh, I'm still not adept.

Crum: I'm still not adapted.

Donald Glenn: to figuring out if I'm on there or not.

Crum: figuring out if I'm on there or not.

Donald Glenn: so If we are, and you and you and you know we and you can see us on YouTube, shout out a text message to 217 -649 -6718.

Crum: so if we are you know and you and you know Yes. Shout out a text message to 217 -649 -6718. That would be it.

Donald Glenn: And let me know.

Crum: All right.

Donald Glenn: All right. Any questions or comments, let us know that too.

Crum: Any questions?

Donald Glenn: oh I've got my trusty -dusty phone right here, so I'll be able to figure it out.

Crum: I've got my trusty desk at home so I'll be able to figure it out.

Donald Glenn: And then of course after you do that lose that number so you don't pass it on to anybody I don't need text in the middle of the night

Crum: And then, of course, after you do that, lose that number so you don't pass it on to anybody. i don't need extra the All right, so.

Donald Glenn: All right. Alright, so... What we got...

Crum: What we got...

Donald Glenn: As they said, of course it was a failure to communicate.

Crum: As they say to the cool people, hey, we're taking you. no

Donald Glenn: No. uh

Crum: what we got is a Eddie.

Donald Glenn: What we got is a... Howdy. major.

Crum: major

Donald Glenn: The law passed.

Crum: The law passed, well not passed yet, it's just gotten by the Senate.

Donald Glenn: Well, not passed yet. It's just gotten by the Senate. and

Crum: and And when it comes to sports.

Donald Glenn: And when it comes to sports.

Crum: And that would be.

Donald Glenn: And that would be.

Crum: the

Donald Glenn: The...

Crum: Senate Bill 105.

Donald Glenn: ah Senate bill of... Save College Sports Act, I think is what it's called.

Crum: See? College sports. athlete think is what it's Amen.

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And it passed the Senate on a 77 to 22 vote protect college sports act is the name of it.

Crum: passed the to 22 vote Protect College Sports Act, is the name of it.

Donald Glenn: A 200 page bipartisan bill.

Crum: A $200 ,000 five -person bill. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And... um some of the provisions.

Crum: some of the provisions um

Donald Glenn: um that they...

Crum: that thing put forth in this

Donald Glenn: put forth in this

Crum: Bill.

Donald Glenn: Bill.

Crum: It's established for federal framework.

Donald Glenn: It establishes a federal framework for college athletics, overriding the patchwork of state laws that have been governing the NIL.

Crum: college athletics. overriding the past with the state laws that have been governed. and i

Donald Glenn: Um, process in the last few years.

Crum: process in the last few years.

Donald Glenn: It also significantly increases the amount

Crum: It also significantly increases the amount...

Donald Glenn: Schools can share directly with athletes.

Crum: Schools can share directly with athletes. while the 2025 house settlement set an internal or an initial

Donald Glenn: while the 2025 House settlement set an internal earn in initial revenue sharing cap of $20 .5 million.

Crum: Revenue shines out at $20 .5 million.

Donald Glenn: per school.

Crum: for school.

Donald Glenn: With an annual 4 % increase, the Senate proposal would double that figure.

Crum: With an annual 4 % increase, the Center proposed we would double that figure.

Donald Glenn: And lawmakers say the schools could distribute roughly $43 million to $45 million annually across all sports.

Crum: and We're longing for the schools to distribute up to 43 million and 45 million annually across all sports.

Donald Glenn: plus an additional exemption of up to $5 million for women's and Olympic non -revenue sports.

Crum: plus an additional incentive 5 million for women's and Olympic non -representative sports.

Donald Glenn: So...

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: There is that that's that's a.

Crum: There's

Donald Glenn: Big significant change in what we got going now.

Crum: mm -hmm

Donald Glenn: Absolutely.

Crum: Absolutely.

Donald Glenn: The cap would, the bill would cap.

Crum: The cap was a filled cap. Peace.

Donald Glenn: Agent fees for negotiating NIL deals.

Crum: fees for negotiating uh

Donald Glenn: ah with current NCAA athletes to 5%.

Crum: The current is at least 5%.

Crum: said it was reported by Ted Cruz and Eric Fenton.

Donald Glenn: said it was ah it was reported by Ted Cruz and Eric Schmidt that... Most ah agent or charging fees can exceed 20%.

Crum: charge degree is going to be 20%.

Donald Glenn: So...

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: that's ah That's a heck of a pay cut for an agent.

Crum: That's a real statement. No eight eight no sp surprise there. Yep.

Donald Glenn: Yep. The bill aims to slow the pace of conference realignment and limit the creation of even larger leagues.

Crum: the bill for the patient. Congress realignment and limit creation with margin

Donald Glenn: An earlier version would have included a moratorium on conference expansion and required any school leaving a powerful conference to spend five years as an independent before joining another league.

Crum: The only version of this with a motor toy in the front. game. And it requires this much. PowerPool conference has been five years. as an independent for joining an update.

Donald Glenn: That would be huge.

Crum: That would be huge. That's going to be pretty big if you're not roosting already in the Big Ten and the SEC.

Donald Glenn: pretty big if you're not first thing already in the big ten in the scc

Crum: Yes, that would be really huge.

Donald Glenn: Yes, that would be really huge. if you don't say uh

Crum: if you don' say

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: Um, I mean, Florida State's kind of been.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, Floyd.

Crum: buck and while or things defend Yeah,

Donald Glenn: Florida State wants to jump out, and now they've got to do five years as an independent. you know good luck with that

Crum: good luck with that Yeah. Maybe they can play Notre Dame twice a year.

Donald Glenn: Maybe they can play Notre Dame twice a year. There you go. You get a home and home series every year with Notre Dame.

Crum: We've been a home and home series.

Donald Glenn: There you go. um They did revise the language and reduces the waiting period to actually three years.

Crum: There are two advice links. Please.

Donald Glenn: Um, And it raises the threshold for a super conference from 19 to 20 members.

Crum: And it raised... threshold for supercomp from 19 to 20 members. Shortest relations of the restrictions to an earlier sunset provision.

Donald Glenn: Shortens the durations of the restrictions through an earlier sunset provision. Um,

Crum: ocean

Donald Glenn: And see ya. And the rest of that rest of rest of this article is just some...

Crum: And the rest of that, rest of course this article is just some... or no

Donald Glenn: or no it uh Smooth.

Crum: Mommy.

Donald Glenn: lawmaker comments.

Crum: Amen.

Donald Glenn: and

Crum: It does.

Donald Glenn: It does say the legislation would provide $180 million annually to historic... Black.

Crum: Historically, back to colleges and universities.

Donald Glenn: Historically, black colleges and universities.

Crum: from this year, 2027 through 2030.

Donald Glenn: from fiscal year 2027 through 2032.

Crum: 32. told me one thing that was over there

Donald Glenn: totaling more than $1 billion dollars over that lifespan.

Crum: All right.

Donald Glenn: ah Also guarantees athletes access to independent, second medical opinions at no cost.

Crum: also here

Crum: Second, medical opinions at no cost.

Donald Glenn: Rather than relying solely on a school's preferred medical provider,

Crum: rather they were launched solely on school's preferred medical provider Addition provides, requires catastrophic injury.

Donald Glenn: Additionally, provide would require catastrophic injury insurance for cases involving more than $90 ,000 in medical expenses.

Crum: attorney based in case you're involved in some mining. thousand dollars of medical expenses.

Donald Glenn: Um...

Donald Glenn: there's an amendment by baldwin said state gov

Crum: brown Yeah.

Donald Glenn: preserves the authority of state governments and courts.

Crum: you think We stay home.

Donald Glenn: when state laws do not directly conflict with the federal law.

Crum: You're not going to conflict with the federal law. is designed for a greater consistency

Donald Glenn: It's designed to promote greater consistency. Um,

Crum: open There's another amendment by Senator Mulroney.

Donald Glenn: There was ah another amendment by Senator Moody. makes A targeted change to the bill's conference real -time provisions.

Crum: makes a targeted change that builds confidence around efficiency.

Donald Glenn: with

Crum: i haven't talked for that reason 19 to 20.

Donald Glenn: but We talked about that raising it from 19 to 20. Um... So, I mean, all in all...

Crum: So, how you all in all, I...

Donald Glenn: i I don't know if it's gonna solve anything.

Crum: I don't know if it's going to solve any problems.

Donald Glenn: Right now ah But...

Crum: but Hopefully on the right path.

Donald Glenn: land on the right

Crum: I think it's on the right path.

Donald Glenn: I think it's on the right path. Now, the House still has to pass this yet before it can go to the president to be signed.

Crum: Now, the House still has to pass this yet before it can go to the president to be signed. And they're in recess right now, so we won't see them until...

Donald Glenn: And they're in recess right now, so we won't see them until... um I think after the elections, after the midterms.

Crum: midterms So we'll see.

Donald Glenn: So we'll see. I mean, it passes the Senate by that much.

Crum: i mean if asked the senate by them.

Donald Glenn: I can't imagine it.

Crum: I can't imagine.

Donald Glenn: finding or not getting past the house.

Crum: finding kind of getting past the house Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. you know.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: yeah i mean Hopefully we can work our way to a good solution.

Crum: yeah i mean hopefully we can work our way to a good solution is it

Donald Glenn: Agreed.

Crum: Agreed. Gets the hell out of what's going on now.

Donald Glenn: i'm no out of what's going on now Oh, and that that's for sure.

Crum: oh that. That's for sure. Yeah for sure about that.

Donald Glenn: for sure about that. Um, You know, because as you and I have discussed, and you know Russ and I discussed it when he was on the show.

Crum: You know. And as you discussed, and Russ and I discussed when he was on the show, into it.

Donald Glenn: <unk>s ah yeah know in hand And I've written about it a few times.

Crum: And again, I've written about it a few times.

Donald Glenn: It's a wild, wild west right now.

Crum: It's a wild, wild west right now. is come up with enough Don't.

Donald Glenn: It's whoever can come up with enough. donor money under the under the table above the table and through the table that they can get to make up the money i mean i've talked with deon thomas about it a couple different times since he's uh

Crum: um like under the under the table above the table through the tables Peace. get. to make up money. I've talked to Deion Thomas about it a couple different times since he's... the

Donald Glenn: um One of the head guys in the Illinois I fund

Crum: One of the head guys in the illinois iphon

Donald Glenn: And he's talked about the same thing.

Crum: And he's talking about the same thing, but they've got to be really careful when they get these donations.

Donald Glenn: You know, they've got to be really careful when they get these donations. because they've got to make sure that...

Crum: because they've got to make sure that, you know, when it's coming.

Donald Glenn: you know, what it's coming.

Crum: How it's coming in.

Donald Glenn: how it's coming in. we just i did We just saw a big flap over here when you and I talked about it a couple weeks ago.

Crum: we just decided We just saw a big flap over here when you and I talked about it a couple weeks ago.

Donald Glenn: with ah you know Larry Geese donating $100 million dollars to the University of Illinois, people are saying, why couldn't we spend that on players?

Crum: with you know Larry East donated $100 million dollars to the University of Illinois. people are saying why couldn't we spend on our players well because that money wasn't targeted for n i yeah that money

Donald Glenn: Well, because that money wasn't targeted for NIL. That money was targeted for structural.

Crum: started with the structural.

Donald Glenn: capital improvement.

Crum: capital improvement. yeah So it's it's a real...

Donald Glenn: So it's it's a real big minefield.

Crum: big minefield and i think this is at least one step to say okay

Donald Glenn: And I think this is at least one step to say, okay. Here's the rules.

Crum: Here's the rules.

Donald Glenn: Everybody plays by the same ones.

Crum: Everybody plays by the same voice.

Donald Glenn: you know You don't have North Carolina saying, well, you can...

Crum: You know, we don't have North Carolina saying.

Donald Glenn: you can ah you can

Crum: offer NIL to high school senior.

Donald Glenn: offer NIL to a high school senior, you know it which they were doing.

Crum: you know it was they were doing

Donald Glenn: So it I think it's a good i it a good deal myself.

Crum: So, I think it's a good deal.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. All right, so

Crum: All right, so.

Donald Glenn: That having any more to add on that or no

Crum: egg on No, I didn't know if you were. you know done with that or going on to read more in peace or their lives Okay.

Donald Glenn: I think we're done with that part. war peace. or no No, no, no. No, I got to read War and Peace. day You know, that that but that but that would take us past two hours.

Crum: You know. That would take us past two hours.

Donald Glenn: Anyway.

Crum: anyway we're working on it there

Donald Glenn: out of there

Crum: All right.

Donald Glenn: All righty.

Crum: So, anyway.

Donald Glenn: So anyway.

Crum: um No, it was a good lesson.

Donald Glenn: Let's see if we can get... I had some... Really interesting games this past week.

Crum: Really interesting games. this past week.

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: yeah Yeah, a lot of... ah

Donald Glenn: game What?

Crum: games. Kind of shook up the top 25 a little bit.

Donald Glenn: what what shook up the top twenty five little bit Yeah.

Crum: Some moving.

Donald Glenn: and moving and

Crum: and You want to start there with the 45?

Donald Glenn: You want to start there? with Yeah, let's go ahead. We'll start with the top 25, see who the movers and shakers were.

Crum: Yeah, so the top 25, I believe this is out of the ESPN.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. top 25 i believe this is out of the spn uh the top three remain the same texas georgia and notre dame texas garter in 62 votes

Crum: The top three remain the same. Texas, Georgia, and Notre Dame. Texas, Gardering, 62 votes. Georgia had six.

Donald Glenn: Georgia had six.

Crum: ah Miami moved up two spots to number four.

Donald Glenn: Miami moved up two spots to number four. Ohio State two spots to number five.

Crum: Ohio State two spots to number five.

Donald Glenn: Miami had a first place vote.

Crum: Miami had a first place vote. Indiana, despite getting a first place vote, staying at 4 -0, dropped the spot to 6.

Donald Glenn: Indiana, despite getting a first place vote, staying at 4 -0, dropped the spot to 6. Alabama moved up 1 -7.

Crum: Alabama moved up 1 -7.

Donald Glenn: The big mover.

Crum: the big mover um,

Donald Glenn: um was Florida.

Crum: was Florida.

Donald Glenn: They're a big win Over Ole Miss.

Crum: They're a big win. over Ole Miss and and we really put it on.

Donald Glenn: And they really put it on.

Crum: They moved up 13 spots to number eight.

Donald Glenn: They moved up 13 spots to number eight.

Crum: Uh...

Donald Glenn: uh Ole Miss dropped to 9, dropping 5 spots.

Crum: Ole Miss dropped to nine, dropping five spots.

Donald Glenn: BYU, LSU, and Texas Tech all dropped a spot to 10, 11, and 12.

Crum: BYU, LSU, and Texas Tech all dropped a spot to 10, 11, and 12. Utah up 2 -13, Iowa up 3 with their...

Donald Glenn: Utah up 2 to 13, Iowa up 3 with their... last second went over

Crum: last second went over The Wolverines in Ann Arbor moved up three spots to 14.

Donald Glenn: The Wolverines in Ann Arbor moved up three spots to 14.

Crum: uh

Donald Glenn: uh

Crum: Oregon with their...

Donald Glenn: Oregon with her

Crum: Went over USC late Saturday night uh moved up five

Donald Glenn: Went over USC late Saturday night. Moved up five.

Crum: Mississippi State, another big move, went up eight.

Donald Glenn: Mississippi State and another big move, went up eight. 16, Tennessee, drop 3.

Crum: To 16, Tennessee dropped three.

Donald Glenn: USC drops 6 -18.

Crum: USC drops 6 -18.

Donald Glenn: Oklahoma State.

Crum: Oklahoma State. Comes into the top 25.

Donald Glenn: Comes into the top 25. At 19, Houston moved up 5 -20.

Crum: At 19, Houston moved up five to 20.

Donald Glenn: SMU moved up one to 21, and then Boise State, UCLA, Kentucky all came in.

Crum: SMU moved up one to 21, and then Boise State, UCLA, and Kentucky all came in.

Donald Glenn: have been not ranked.

Crum: after being not ranked.

Donald Glenn: 22, 23, 24, then Missouri drops six.

Crum: 22, 23, 24, and then Missouri drops six.

Donald Glenn: Rounding out the top 25.

Crum: rounding out the top 25. The SEC has... a

Donald Glenn: 10 teams.

Crum: 10 teams.

Donald Glenn: uh

Crum: Uh... In the top 25, six in the top 11.

Donald Glenn: In the top 25, 6 in the top 11. The Big Ten has 6.

Crum: The Big Ten has six. And the Big 12 is sporting five teams in the top 25 this week.

Donald Glenn: And the Big 12 is sporting five teams in the top 25. Hmm. Okay.

Crum: Okay.

Donald Glenn: Alright.

Crum: Alright. So, uh

Donald Glenn: Okay, so we got, let's see, let me get to the top 25 scores.

Crum: Yes, sir. so we got see i have 25 scores

Donald Glenn: we

Crum: so you don't look it down

Donald Glenn: Take a look at them.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And... And then... I want week four not week five.

Crum: Or number five.

Donald Glenn: Okay.

Crum: okay

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: Um...

Donald Glenn: Well, let's let's just go ahead and we'll rip the band.

Crum: Well. What? Let's just go ahead. This is the show that I did that.

Donald Glenn: Since it just showed up, I don't know why it did that to me. I don't know, but we'll just show it.

Crum: We'll be right back.

Donald Glenn: We'll rip the bandaid off. ah Illinois getting shellacked.

Crum: Illinois. What?

Donald Glenn: at uh

Crum: at

Donald Glenn: Columbus.

Crum: Columbus. 49, 49.

Donald Glenn: 42 to 19.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. um

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: I don't like moral wins.

Crum: Don't like moral wins.

Donald Glenn: I really don't think it was...

Crum: I really don't think it was

Donald Glenn: I think there were some bright spots for Illinois.

Crum: I think there was some bright spots for Illinois.

Donald Glenn: I mean, they they did it.

Crum: I mean, they they did it. They...

Donald Glenn: Right. 462 yards

Crum: 462 yards.

Donald Glenn: yeah So, I mean, the offense was there.

Crum: um So I mean, the offense was there, but.

Donald Glenn: but

Crum: Uh...

Donald Glenn: And we held the Ohio State scoreless in the third quarter.

Crum: And we hope. up have these forests in the very first place. Yeah, well, you know I mean

Donald Glenn: Yeah. well you know i mean

Crum: ah You know, you got to play a perfect game to even be in that game.

Donald Glenn: You know, you got to play a perfect game to be in that game. Oh, yeah.

Crum: And Illinois turned.

Donald Glenn: And Illinois turned. Uh...

Crum: Uh...

Donald Glenn: Got a couple field goals.

Crum: Got a couple field goals instead of a couple touchdowns.

Donald Glenn: instead of a couple touchdowns. Right.

Crum: They turned the ball over on downs that I believe Ohio State's 18 or 20.

Donald Glenn: We're in the ball over on downs that I believe Ohio State's 18 or 20.

Crum: So there's some.

Donald Glenn: So there's some. extra points that were missed uh then giving up a ridiculous yeah drive right before the half.

Crum: extra points that were missed and then giving up a ridiculous drive right before the half.

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: Um, after kind of getting back in it or staying in it with a field goal they

Donald Glenn: after kind of getting back in and or staying in it with a field goal. they came back in under a minute and a half gave up a

Crum: came back and under a minute and a half gave up a a lengthy touchdown drive to Ohio State that didn't really take very long at all.

Donald Glenn: like The lengthy touchdown drive to Ohio State. It didn't really take very long at all. And Ohio State, I mean...

Crum: I don't have speed on that.

Donald Glenn: yeah you you give the You give them their creds.

Crum: you get the given

Donald Glenn: Um, Because they...

Crum: Okay.

Donald Glenn: i mean they're they're just they're tough i mean they they're a top 10 team for a reason and

Crum: They're tough. I mean there is <unk> tough a reason.

Donald Glenn: I mean, let's see, you got the...

Crum: I mean, so you got that.

Donald Glenn: ah they i We didn't...

Crum: they did We didn't. buy

Donald Glenn: i although I thought they were going to do more rushing.

Crum: you and i wait in david

Donald Glenn: You and I have thought the same thing. They would do more with Jackson. But. Smith went.

Crum: Well, I just didn't think with the with the lines the way they set up the offensive line and the way our defense was And has been we just didn't think there'd be a whole need for

Donald Glenn: they with the with the liness with Yeah. set up the offensive line Yeah. our defense was has been, we just didn't think there'd be a whole need for it. them to throw a whole lot and obviously they they did and they did it very well yes they targeted targeted Smith 16 times he caught 12 passes 217 yards and four scores

Crum: them to throw a whole lot and obviously they they did and they did it very well with jeremiah 12 past 217 yards.

Crum: scores.

Donald Glenn: those edge left to the heisman ladder pretty oh I guarantee that pushed him up the heism Heisman ladder.

Crum: Kind of moves him up to the Heisman ladder pretty quick. i much heisean heiseisman Hmm

Donald Glenn: Um, Saiyan had 367 yards with those four TD passes going to Smith.

Crum: Sayen had 367 yards with those four TD passes going to Smith. Um...

Donald Glenn: Yeah, I mean, it it was it was a good game all the way around for Ohio State.

Crum: it was ah it was a know for Ohio State.

Donald Glenn: they They came in and showed up and did what they needed to do to preserve.

Crum: the they came in showed up did what they needed to do serve up Preserve home field.

Donald Glenn: our Preserve the home field. um you know but actually you give illinois creds for

Crum: oh you know You get all of my clips for...

Donald Glenn: At least.

Crum: at least

Donald Glenn: hanging in there when they did um putting up the party because they were and what did surprise me that they were able to move the ball against ohio state the way they they really i mean moved it you know pretty well I mean really the whole game.

Crum: hanging we do Putting up the break is in. And wouldn't it surprise me if they were able to move all of the charts? They really, I mean Moved him. you know pretty well i mean really the whole game Uh...

Crum: So it doescompass a couple of just had just had two punts.

Donald Glenn: so hey So just a couple, just a couple of down. Just had two punts.

Crum: you know We didn't turn the ball over.

Donald Glenn: We didn't turn the ball over. No.

Crum: No. um so

Donald Glenn: so

Crum: you know, that The offense scored 19, like I said.

Donald Glenn: You know, then. The offense scored 19, like I said. with some luck could have you know maybe had you know

Crum: with some luck could have you know maybe had you know around 30 or so but it is what it is and and we kind of knew that's the way it was going to shake out so

Donald Glenn: around 30 or so but it is what it is yeah we kind of knew that's the way it's going to shake out yeah Yeah. Illinois just moves on to a home game with Purdue.

Crum: Illinois just moves on to... the home game of Purdue.

Donald Glenn: this coming week and And Ohio State gets at Iowa.

Crum: this coming week. and Yes. at Iowa City.

Donald Glenn: at iowa who gave they

Crum: in iowa game Game day.

Donald Glenn: Ooh.

Crum: for uh

Donald Glenn: I wonder. No, I think it is.

Crum: No, I think it is.

Donald Glenn: oh it is trying to think it would

Crum: and i I'm trying to think of it.

Donald Glenn: Big team.

Crum: Big team. or I think CBS game day.

Donald Glenn: I think CBS game day.

Crum: uh

Donald Glenn: Hang on, I can tell you that in just a second here.

Crum: that in Just a second here.

Donald Glenn: Go to the week five schedule.

Crum: thefire schedule

Donald Glenn: For the top 25.

Crum: twenty five

Donald Glenn: And...

Crum: is

Crum: Oh hi, it's CBS Games.

Donald Glenn: Ohio, yeah, it's a CBS game, 2 .30 p .m.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Um, Looks like...

Crum: looks like

Donald Glenn: Ohio State is a 14 .5 favorite.

Crum: Ohio State is 14 and a half favorite. rent Yep.

Donald Glenn: So. Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Excuse me.

Crum: well so that's ah That's a big game early.

Donald Glenn: so That's a big game early. Yeah.

Crum: with the content.

Donald Glenn: And, you know. Well, which kind of just, it makes a natural play into where we got to go next, which is the Iowa Michigan game.

Crum: um which kind of just it makes a natural place which is the Iowa a -Michigan game.

Donald Glenn: since Iowa's coming off a big win.

Crum: since Iowa's coming off a big win.

Donald Glenn: I mean, that you talk about.

Crum: I mean, that you talked about.

Donald Glenn: I mean that was at the big house.

Crum: I mean that was at the big house. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. uh

Crum: uh another last second last which

Donald Glenn: uh last second which

Crum: He's under attack.

Donald Glenn: It's under further review. ah and yeah And now, I don't know if you saw, there's somebody from Michigan, some Michigan fan posted a meme.

Crum: And now, I don't know, you saw there's somebody from Michigan, some Michigan fan posted a meme. All right.

Donald Glenn: Or a a, yeah, I think it was a meme.

Crum: guy who is a meme um

Donald Glenn: on Facebook.

Crum: Facebook.

Donald Glenn: showing one second left on the clock and the and the Iowa player out of bounds when he caught the ball.

Crum: showing one second left on the clock and and the Iowa player out of bounds when he caught the ball.

Donald Glenn: Which? you know You can make Photoshop do anything.

Crum: That was a nice pass.

Donald Glenn: That was a nice... pass.

Crum: ah Hank Brown threw a 16 -yard pass to to Reese Van Der Zee.

Donald Glenn: Hank Brown threw a 16 -yard pass. Reese Mandersey.

Crum: And they went 11 plays in a minute 46 there.

Donald Glenn: They went 11 plays in a minute 46 there. Yeah.

Crum: Yeah. ah But aided by a 15 -yard.

Donald Glenn: But aided by a 15 -yard. Unnecessary roughness.

Crum: unnecessary roughness up call on ah Michigan that

Donald Glenn: yeah michigan that I was.

Crum: I was. third and 12 on their own 40 when that happened and Certainly kept that.

Donald Glenn: 312 on their own 40 when that happened. Certainly kept that. drive and momentum going for the hawkeyes

Crum: drive and momentum going for the Hawkeyes.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, so that's going to be a big game.

Crum: So that's going to be. That's going to be 15.

Donald Glenn: um and

Crum: um and Michelle, we know who they're now.

Donald Glenn: michigan you know like i said we we know who they're playing so now michigan

Crum: michigan Damn.

Donald Glenn: They get the honor.

Crum: you know

Donald Glenn: Oh.

Donald Glenn: Come on, where'd it go?

Crum: Are they off this week?

Donald Glenn: Are they off this week?

Crum: No.

Donald Glenn: No, it can't be.

Donald Glenn: I think they are.

Crum: They're at Minnesota.

Donald Glenn: around minnesota Oh, they're in Minnesota.

Crum: Oh, they're at Minnesota. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Oh, that's right.

Crum: Oh, actually, they're not right.

Donald Glenn: They're not ranked. I'm looking at the top 25.

Crum: I'm looking at the top 25.

Donald Glenn: Never mind.

Crum: Right, yep, they're out.

Donald Glenn: yeah yeah so they're at they go Yeah, so they go on the road to Minnesota, and Minnesota comes is coming off a big win themselves, too.

Crum: This photo is coming off. It sounds dead.

Donald Glenn: So that could be interesting.

Crum: so I went out to Washington.

Donald Glenn: to Washington. Mm hmm.

Crum: I got to see some of that game late.

Donald Glenn: the city some of that Yeah.

Crum: That's an interesting game.

Donald Glenn: that That could be an interesting game. after it's all said and done.

Crum: My efforts all said and done.

Donald Glenn: uh so let's look at uh

Crum: so let's look at

Crum: Let's go.

Donald Glenn: That's good. Let's go back up to the top.

Crum: Let's go back. to the top number one with Texas.

Donald Glenn: Number one, Texas.

Crum: Barely getting by Tennessee 20 -17.

Donald Glenn: barely getting by Tennessee 20 to 17.

Crum: Maybe.

Donald Glenn: Manning

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: 201 yards is all.

Crum: one problems

Donald Glenn: No touchdowns.

Crum: films.

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: Um... Yeah, Texas.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, Texas. Had 10 sacks.

Crum: Had 10 sacks. Not. Real happy, kind of a...

Donald Glenn: real happy kind of a with the uh

Crum: with the uh Texas player conduct out of that game.

Donald Glenn: Texas player conduct out of that game No

Crum: no Um,

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: Really really a bad look

Donald Glenn: Really, really a bad look.

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: Just I

Crum: Just I you know When you let players do their individual celebration, it's it's gotten way out of hand.

Donald Glenn: You know, when you let players do their individual celebration, it's just's gotten way out of hand. And it it was really disgusting.

Crum: And its it was really disgusting. and

Donald Glenn: It was. And Sark, the coach, that whole program should be embarrassed.

Crum: Sark, the coach, that that whole program should be embarrassed.

Donald Glenn: Those players are trash for doing that.

Crum: Those players are trash for doing that.

Donald Glenn: Mm hmm.

Crum: um And I don't know a whole lot's going to come out of it.

Donald Glenn: And I don't know a whole lot's going to come out of it. No, i'm probably not.

Crum: From from there in but you can't do that you you got You know.

Donald Glenn: You know.

Crum: You get beat on the next play or whatever, you know, you don't.

Donald Glenn: You get beat on the next play or whatever, you know you know. you're not celebrating.

Crum: you're not celebrating so you just celebrate the the good stuff all the time and oh yeah and you got you got kids at the game you got other things and it's just fruit those

Donald Glenn: Yeah. to celebrate stuff all the time and Oh yeah. Well, and, and yeah, kids at the game, right. other things and it's just for the For those of you who don't know what we're talking about.

Crum: it was a

Donald Glenn: It was a... a

Crum: Was that sad?

Donald Glenn: Was that sack? It was Colin Simmons and Relique Brown.

Crum: It was Colin Simmons and Relique Brown. but Both of them did.

Donald Glenn: yeah Both of them did.

Crum: uh, Was that all I had for the past three?

Donald Glenn: they would they was it Was that on after a sack, I think?

Crum: Simmons, he had five and a half sacks.

Donald Glenn: Simmons, he had five and a half sacks. and

Crum: and

Donald Glenn: They went like he was...

Crum: He went like he was...

Donald Glenn: urinating on the restroom and it's just just ridiculous it was no no room in the game for that and no

Crum: Urinating. Urinating in the restroom, and it's just just ridiculous. There's there's no no room in the game for that. and when you That's what happens when you let the...

Donald Glenn: that's what happens when you let the players start dictating everything yeah i mean and and getting paid and and all this.

Crum: players start dictating everything and and getting paid and and all this.

Donald Glenn: that

Crum: that Um,

Donald Glenn: There should be heavy consequences there, and and as far as I'm concerned, that program is trash if they don't have to clean that up.

Crum: there There should be heavy consequences there and and as far as I'm concerned that program is trash if they don't clean that up

Donald Glenn: Yeah, I mean, I kind of get the idea of celebrating.

Crum: yeah i mean i i night You don't have to celebrate every goddamn play.

Donald Glenn: You're not celebrating every goddamn play. you don't Yeah, exactly.

Crum: oh yeah za

Donald Glenn: you know Now, a guy jumping up and pounding his chest like King Kong, okay, fine.

Crum: you know now a guy's jumping up and pounding his chest like okay fine i can live with that that's great Now go back to your huddles here on the next.

Donald Glenn: I can live with that. That's great. Now go back to your huddle and do it on the next play. I'm not interested in watching you celebrate entertainment.

Crum: I'm not interested in watching you celebrate entertainment. If I want entertainment, I'll go to a concert or something.

Donald Glenn: Right. or entertain i'll go that concert I mean, yeah you yeah my team went to play yeah, you're hyped.

Crum: I want to see you help my team win a football game.

Donald Glenn: You're hyped up and you made a great play and you're excited.

Crum: and you're excited, that's fantastic.

Donald Glenn: That's fantastic. But you don't need to carry it on for two, three minutes or whatever the case may be, or make lewd, lascivious acts of stupidity.

Crum: But you don't need to carry it on for two, three minutes or whatever the case may be. or make a little lascivious act of stupidity yeah you know i think know I think in some ways that's why...

Donald Glenn: um You know. I think, you know, I think in some ways that's why years ago they came up with that celebration excess celebration rule.

Crum: years ago they came up with that celebrate exodus celebration

Donald Glenn: in the end zone.

Crum: in the end zone

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: you know because people's kind of getting out of hand um and they weren't the only ones this week and there's a couple other oh yeah there's yeah one we're one we're definitely going to get to later um for sure.

Crum: you know yeah because people's kind of getting out of me oh they weren't the only ones this week and there's a couple other incidents too I'm going cross later.

Crum: for sure

Donald Glenn: ah Then let's see.

Crum: Let's see.

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: um That's it.

Donald Glenn: That's... Find.

Donald Glenn: Number five.

Crum: Number five.

Donald Glenn: we Number five, Indiana.

Crum: Number five.

Donald Glenn: get Again, another close game.

Crum: Again, another close game.

Donald Glenn: Six points over Northwestern.

Crum: Yeah, that was played last Friday night in Bloomington.

Donald Glenn: yeah Played last Friday night in Bloomington. Mm hmm.

Crum: And. Yeah, well, you know, we talked a little bit.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, well, you know, we talked a little bit.

Crum: You know, Northwestern's got a very good coach and and very improved.

Donald Glenn: You know, Northwestern's got a very good coach and and very improved. and

Crum: and

Donald Glenn: You know, they stayed right with the the Hoosiers.

Crum: You know, they they stayed right with the the Hoosiers. and

Donald Glenn: And yeah a Childs for the Wildcats, 293 yards, two touchdowns.

Crum: A child to the wild, gas to it at 93 yards, two touchdowns.

Donald Glenn: Um... And...

Crum: I'm a

Donald Glenn: I'm gonna...

Crum: Well, this last game only.

Donald Glenn: blow his last name all to hell.

Crum: the nikki

Donald Glenn: Danicki, seven catches for 140 yards.

Crum: uh and he gave us 140 of them. So.

Donald Glenn: so

Crum: you know yeah northwestern cleanup may be something you don't want to take too light Come on.

Donald Glenn: you know yeah Northwestern may not be maybe be somebody you don't want to take too lightly when you when you come up to play them, for sure.

Crum: For sure.

Crum: Another one, number two, Georgia.

Donald Glenn: to number two, Georgia.

Crum: Uh... Hammered Oklahoma 41 -13.

Donald Glenn: Hammered Oklahoma 41 -13. Oh, man.

Crum: And Old Venables may be.

Donald Glenn: wells maybe

Crum: You know um i have was first technique and

Donald Glenn: you know that was I started to watch that game and... It became very brutal to watch.

Crum: It became very movable to watch. It really did.

Donald Glenn: it really did i had to turn i had to turn over to something else because it was just it was horrible um i had some penalties

Crum: I i had to turn it over to something else. that it Yeah. Well, oklamama Oklahoma had seven penalties.

Donald Glenn: They were sacked three times.

Crum: They were sacked three times.

Donald Glenn: They fumbled three times.

Crum: They fumbled three times, had an interception.

Donald Glenn: Had an interception. And they are...

Crum: And... They are... I don't have it in front of me um

Donald Glenn: I don't have it in front of me. um That's what I did today.

Crum: Thought I did, but they... They are...

Donald Glenn: They were... Just about.

Crum: Just about.

Donald Glenn: Not last, but...

Crum: Not last, but... in the very bottom of just about every offensive quarter.

Donald Glenn: in the very bottom of just about every offensive quarter. Yeah.

Crum: category.

Donald Glenn: category and the tigger might be getting replaced this wayen Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, he didn't, he didn't have a, you know, what you would call it necessarily a great game, but he out through Stockton.

Crum: And Mateer might be getting replaced this week. There's been some talk about that. If you have a great game. the yeah oton Stockton went through 171.

Donald Glenn: Stockton only threw 171 yards and one touchdown.

Crum: yards and one touchdown, the tier had three one for two.

Donald Glenn: Mateer had 231 for two.

Crum: Yeah, Matera's giving the ball away and letting well they have George easy scores too, so.

Donald Glenn: Well, that's true too. or two Yeah, but i said yeah the i said I started watching that game and it became real apparent to me real early that

Crum: but Yeah. Yeah. I started watching that game and it became real apparent to me real early that...

Donald Glenn: That was going to be a no contest before it even got started.

Crum: That was going to be a no -brainer. before it even got started. Yeah, and I just don't know how...

Donald Glenn: I just don't know

Crum: Oklahoma's gonna... Come out and... you know recover

Donald Glenn: Recover. Yeah. that that's a tough one to come back from really i mean you're two you're now you're two and two

Crum: that' That's a tough one to come back to. Really, I mean, you're not even tuned to...

Donald Glenn: And...

Crum: And...

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: Yeah, I think they're off.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, I think they're off.

Crum: the Yeah, they're off this week.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, they're off this week.

Crum: and Then they have Texas and the Red River War.

Donald Glenn: They're off this week, so they get lucky. Well. and you got a week to get you got You got a week to get healthy.

Crum: you yeah in the try yeah and gotta get help

Donald Glenn: As they say.

Crum: Yeah. as they And figure it out.

Donald Glenn: figure it out.

Crum: and figure it out

Donald Glenn: and figure it out for sure.

Crum: sure Um...

Donald Glenn: Um, So now we'll go to Notre Dame.

Crum: So now we'll do Notre Dame.

Donald Glenn: Number three, Notre Dame.

Crum: Number three Notre Dame.

Donald Glenn: Why in the heck

Crum: Did that do it?

Donald Glenn: Did that go to there? Okay well what you know

Crum: Um...

Donald Glenn: Um... Yeah, they blasted the Purdue and West Lafayette.

Crum: Yeah, they blasted ah Purdue and West Lafayette. 49 to 10.

Donald Glenn: 49 to 10. rolled up 444 yards

Crum: rolled up 444 yards

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: Then...

Crum: then And Notre Dame will...

Donald Glenn: And Notre Dame will... Go to North Carolina.

Crum: go to North Carolina next week. ah

Donald Glenn: Ah. That ought to be an interesting game, actually.

Crum: That ought to be interesting

Donald Glenn: might be one that bill check

Crum: Might be one that Bill Belichick

Donald Glenn: At least the...

Crum: needs to Do well in.

Donald Glenn: well Well, you never know.

Crum: well you even know

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: um You know, he might.

Donald Glenn: You know, he might and he might not.

Crum: We might not. it is the

Donald Glenn: it just ah

Crum: You never know with this.

Donald Glenn: You never know with Mr. Bill.

Crum: As they say.

Donald Glenn: as they say. Only four.

Crum: Why is this?

Donald Glenn: Why is this doing this? to me my my so my score My score tracker kind of went...

Crum: my score track there it goes

Donald Glenn: There it goes. Now it's back on track.

Donald Glenn: Pardon me.

Crum: It will, uh... The big game.

Donald Glenn: the big game number eight florida over number nine mississippi and i watched a lot of that florida 498 yards mississippi 426.

Crum: Number eight, Florida. Over number nine, Mississippi, and I watched a lot of that. ah Florida had 498 yards, Mississippi 426. But.

Donald Glenn: but uh That was...

Crum: That was...

Donald Glenn: That was a good game.

Crum: That was a good game. It was a darn good game.

Donald Glenn: That was a darn good game. And then Florida just kept.

Crum: And then Florida just kept. Putting it on them.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, there was no let up in it.

Crum: yeah there was there was there no but

Donald Glenn: And like you said, it was just.

Crum: like you said it was just

Donald Glenn: i You know, it was...

Crum: i i you know it was

Donald Glenn: it was It was tight there that first half.

Crum: it was tight there and ben hat on the

Donald Glenn: I mean, it was. just 11 point difference in the hat half.

Crum: just 11 feet difference in the hat right up and then

Donald Glenn: And then, you know, like I said,

Crum: You know, like I said.

Donald Glenn: Third quarter was pretty tight in Florida.

Crum: Third quarter was pretty tight in the floor.

Donald Glenn: this put it in the second, put it in third gear in the fourth quarter.

Crum: put it in the second put it in third gear in the fourth quarter

Donald Glenn: and

Crum: yeah john john ball had 29 attempts 142 yards and three tds for uh

Donald Glenn: That was the end of it. 29 attempts, 142 yards, and 3 TDs. for Mm -hmm.

Crum: the gators and uh

Donald Glenn: Turn down shambles for Ole Miss.

Crum: Trinidad Shambles for Ole Miss. He had 342 total yards, three TDs, two rushing, one passing.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, 342 total yards, three TDs, two rushing, one passing. Yeah. but

Crum: But, um...

Donald Glenn: With the...

Crum: It After Ole Miss' big win in the Lane Kiffin Bowl the week before.

Donald Glenn: After Ole Miss' big win against the Lane -Kiffin Bowl the week before.

Crum: at the

Donald Glenn: they Took a step back, but, you know, everybody's talking in Florida now.

Crum: Took a step back, but, you know. but you know yeah everybody's talking florida now i mean that's they're right in it now yeah and yeah we haven't earned talk in a couple couple of years it's

Donald Glenn: i mean that's Well, now yeah, and that's something you haven't heard talked in a couple couple of years. is Is Florida having a shot at anything?

Crum: is for having a shot at any anything.

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: ah

Donald Glenn: And it's hard to talk to number five, so...

Crum: We're talking about. Right. Number four, Miami rolled over Central Michigan, 52 -3.

Donald Glenn: Before Miami rolled over Central Michigan. Yeah.

Crum: Um...

Donald Glenn: I thought an interesting one, and we talked about this game.

Crum: I thought an interesting one when we talked about this game. um was uh

Donald Glenn: was uh Oklahoma State.

Crum: Oklahoma State.

Donald Glenn: in West Virginia.

Crum: in West Virginia.

Donald Glenn: yes And that was in Mountaineer country.

Crum: Yeah. and that was in mountaineer country um

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: And actually, West Virginia led that game.

Donald Glenn: And actually, West Virginia led that game. at the half 14 to 13 but

Crum: at the half 14 to 13 but uh

Donald Glenn: I watched

Crum: I watched...

Donald Glenn: Oklahoma State, they're in the fourth quarter, kind of put it on them, and then went going to one going away, 41 -24.

Crum: Oklahoma State there in the fourth quarter kind of put it on them and went going to one going away 41 -24. So...

Donald Glenn: Nope, Oklahoma State rolled up 609 yards

Crum: no Oklahoma State rolled up 609 yards. You know, they had a bunch of yards there when they played Oregon a couple weeks ago.

Donald Glenn: You know, they had a bunch of yards there when they played Oregon a couple weeks ago.

Crum: so they're

Donald Glenn: Their offense is rolling.

Crum: They're cheating.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah, absolutely.

Donald Glenn: No doubt.

Crum: no

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: Let's see.

Donald Glenn: let's see trying to see if there's a

Crum: Try to see if there's a...

Donald Glenn: Game that we didn't really highlight a lot of that.

Crum: Game of the Week. week I love you. I think.

Donald Glenn: I think. I don't know

Crum: I dunno.

Donald Glenn: it may may It may mean something down the road into Big 12.

Crum: it made me

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: Is, uh...

Crum: is, uh...

Donald Glenn: kansas city Kansas State.

Crum: Kansas State. kansas state

Donald Glenn: Lost to Cincinnati.

Crum: uh lost to cincinnati they're now 4 -0

Donald Glenn: They're now 4 -0.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah. um Actually, the Big 12, well, we can look at that in a little bit if you want to roll through the top 25.

Donald Glenn: Actually, the big 12, well, we can look at that in a little bit. Yeah. want to roll through the top twenty Yeah, let's finish walking through the top 25.

Crum: We can talk some tops of the stand.

Donald Glenn: We can roll that in a little bit. but

Crum: some standings here in a bit.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: yeah So going back.

Donald Glenn: So going back to the top 25, I was just looking at the that the score that's caught me from the...

Crum: 45 and we just decided The discord has called me. yeah

Donald Glenn: Uh... When I was looking at the Big 12 stuff.

Crum: or you want to

Donald Glenn: Upset in the top 25 was Wake Forest over Louisville.

Crum: upset five week but Yeah, and we kind of highlighted that game.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. and we kind of We did.

Crum: lastly

Donald Glenn: We looked at that game.

Crum: And.

Donald Glenn: So.

Crum: So... we are

Donald Glenn: We thought it might be a good game, but I did not expect Wake Forest to come away with a win on that.

Crum: yeah wait for us to come away Right. Right. um you know and So that kind of takes Louisville a step back.

Donald Glenn: So that kind of takes me a little step back.

Crum: you know They had that big win the week before against Southern Memphis.

Donald Glenn: they have that big oregon southern methodist Right.

Crum: All right. And of course, they had also lost to Ole Miss, so they they kind of.

Donald Glenn: of course that also lost the old men so they they kind of

Crum: Had some early...

Donald Glenn: and some early tough games but um

Crum: tough games but um

Donald Glenn: That's good.

Crum: That kind of puts them down the in the ladder a little bit in the oh, yeah

Donald Glenn: Oh, yeah.

Donald Glenn: in the in ah And hierarchy pickings, as they say, yeah.

Crum: the and higher up in the ICC. to Probably the chance to play you know Miami, um I would imagine.

Donald Glenn: and probably the chance to play Miami.

Crum: oh yeah

Donald Glenn: Oh yeah.

Crum: later on in the conference.

Donald Glenn: Later on. conference. championship yeah

Crum: championship.

Donald Glenn: Um... Some of the other, one other game.

Crum: some of the other one of the Thanks.

Donald Glenn: Pence, another upset.

Crum: Another upset.

Donald Glenn: Wisconsin?

Crum: Wisconsin. Take care.

Donald Glenn: Taking down Penn State.

Crum: and say Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: here i now

Donald Glenn: In Happy Valley. Okay.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Not so happy in Happy Valley right now.

Crum: at honeymoon That honeymoon may not last too long there either.

Donald Glenn: last too long. there either.

Crum: That might have been the slowest 72 -yard touchdown run I've seen in a long time.

Donald Glenn: That might have been the slowest 72 -yard touchdown. thing in the world Come on.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: ah

Crum: Bye.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: jacob harris yeah uh colton joseph threw it to a minute 13 to go

Donald Glenn: Jacob Harris. Yeah. Colton Joseph threw it to him a minute 13 to go. uh 72 yard most of them was running.

Crum: 72 -yard, and most of it was running.

Donald Glenn: and

Crum: and Uh, I just didn't know if he was going to make it there.

Donald Glenn: I just didn't know if he was going to make it there. And I'm trying to figure out where he was so wide open.

Crum: And I'm trying to figure out where he was so wide open.

Donald Glenn: I mean, he didn't even see anybody else in the in the picture there for a while.

Crum: I mean, you didn't even see anybody else in the in the picture there for a while, except for them.

Donald Glenn: except

Crum: the one.

Donald Glenn: Mr.

Crum: I mistackled it.

Donald Glenn: Ackerman.

Crum: Uh,

Donald Glenn: Yeah, Wisconsin gets it.

Crum: Yeah, ah Wisconsin gets it.

Donald Glenn: That's a big win for Luke Sickle.

Crum: That's a big win for Luke Fickle.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah. and uh...

Donald Glenn: Huge win huge win Yeah.

Crum: Yeah. It is.

Donald Glenn: And in Mississippi State, Missouri, Simmons.

Crum: this is Jerry Simmons.

Donald Glenn: He looked human that game.

Crum: look through it He did.

Donald Glenn: He did.

Crum: There you

Donald Glenn: I mean, look he looked like he actually got, Mississippi State actually got him rattled a couple times.

Crum: they that become The, uh... 499 yards for Mississippi State and they

Donald Glenn: from Mississippi State and... Babe.

Crum: Looking good and they're starting to...

Donald Glenn: Looking good and they're starting to... Get noticed now.

Crum: Get noticed now.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: yeah it's it's

Crum: and the

Donald Glenn: The...

Donald Glenn: And here.

Crum: I had it here. Too many pages folks.

Donald Glenn: many pages Yeah, I get that.

Donald Glenn: I mean, Simmons did have, I mean, he still had a decent day, 295 for three TDs, but.

Crum: i mean Sunday.

Donald Glenn: i taylor He just.

Crum: mario Taylor. 27. for 38.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: 360 yards, three TDs.

Donald Glenn: 360 yards, 3 TDs. Bothwell rushed for 122 and Evans the third at eight receptions, 114 yards.

Crum: Bothwell rushed for 122, and Evans, the third, had eight receptions, 114 yards. but

Donald Glenn: but um

Crum: Um, Okay.

Donald Glenn: I'd say that Bothwell looks like a beast. Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah. Um, So Mississippi State, you know up to number 16.

Donald Glenn: Mississippi State, you know up to number 16.

Donald Glenn: There.

Crum: They're...

Donald Glenn: They're starting to point.

Crum: They're starting to point. point upwards.

Donald Glenn: point upwards yeah

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: One game I want to touch on, we talked about.

Crum: One day... That's what we're talking about. um

Donald Glenn: um,

Crum: Man.

Donald Glenn: Bad.

Crum: Please.

Donald Glenn: plays bad, act bad.

Crum: All right. man

Donald Glenn: Whatever.

Crum: Whatever.

Donald Glenn: The USC -Oregon game.

Crum: human story Yeah, and I could play most of that game.

Donald Glenn: And that most of that hit on...

Crum: get on up I believe that was...

Donald Glenn: I am Aleva. I mean, that was... I've...

Crum: All right. I've looked at

Donald Glenn: I've looked at it. i've I've seen people try to slow it down and justify it.

Crum: Try to slow it down just fine.

Donald Glenn: and And, you know.

Crum: And. and you

Donald Glenn: he He didn't hit him with the with the crown of the helmet.

Crum: yeah

Donald Glenn: Hit him with his sho with the shoulder pad.

Crum: with the shoulder pad

Donald Glenn: But I think that was more because I believe it was sliding than it was he where he was aiming.

Crum: But I think that was more because I... It's like. to see where he was aiming. Yeah Please head on.

Donald Glenn: I mean, I think he literally was trying to take the kid's head off.

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: And there's just no place for that.

Crum: Please. Well, then he goes and celebrated.

Donald Glenn: Well, then he goes and celebrates. And then he celebrated afterwards.

Crum: And celebrated and that's that.

Donald Glenn: Running around the field like he just made the game -saving tackle in the Super Bowl.

Crum: speakers You didn't even do it anything. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. He just...

Crum: He just...

Donald Glenn: Amen.

Crum: I mean more went down so the guy didn't even do anything so I don't know why he's even celebrating.

Donald Glenn: went down so the guy didn't even do anything or not not normally I meant more I'm sorry I keep saying I'm a leave it I meant more yeah

Crum: but uh And then...

Donald Glenn: And then...

Crum: Old Lincoln Riley kind of just...

Donald Glenn: i did i like and ri i kind of just kind of blew it off in the I did.

Crum: kind of blew it off in the

Crum: the conference afterwards.

Donald Glenn: conference afterwards yeah The conference stepped in and said, no, no, no, no, no.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: We ain't playing that game.

Crum: The... So they did suspend him one game.

Donald Glenn: So they didn't suspend him one game. yeah it looks like and more more is in the concussion protocol so well yeah yeah of course but i mean it sounds like he's doing

Crum: it looks like and more more is in the concussion protocol so Yeah, of course. But I mean, it sounds like he's doing. better but the

Donald Glenn: matter but the U S radio team.

Crum: U S radio team.

Donald Glenn: uh especially pete

Crum: uh especially pete Arbogast.

Donald Glenn: Marble gas. He they didn't say anything wrong with it

Crum: He they didn't say anything wrong with it. And it was really kind of embarrassing how they went on.

Donald Glenn: And it was really kind of embarrassing how they went on. uh when they call that and then the aftermath of them even talking about it

Crum: when they called that, and then the aftermath of them even talking about it.

Donald Glenn: as things unfolded there

Crum: as things unfolded there.

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: Um,

Donald Glenn: Really pretty poor from that USC.

Crum: Really pretty poor from that USC. radio team.

Donald Glenn: Radio T. Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: so but they are But yeah, there's this there's just no, that like like we said earlier, there's just no place for that kind of of of a...

Crum: Especially Argo gas. yeahs There's the snow. i do like this still pleased with that kind of Amen.

Donald Glenn: I mean, yeah, you want to play hard.

Crum: Yeah. Please mark 20.

Donald Glenn: You want to hit somebody hard. You want to make sure that they know you're there when you're playing defense.

Crum: sure that they know each other.

Donald Glenn: but you know The goal is not to injure the other player.

Crum: You know. the gold i use

Donald Glenn: The goal is just to stop him from scoring.

Crum: and stop.

Donald Glenn: I mean, let's let's be real about it.

Crum: Let's be real. Well, then and then the other incident that happened Saturday was in the Alabama -South Carolina game.

Donald Glenn: Well, then the other incident that happened... Saturday was in the Alabama -South Carolina game, which Alabama won 49 -18, number seven.

Crum: Which Alabama won? 4918 uh number seven um

Donald Glenn: And I give Shane Beamer some credit.

Crum: And I give Shane Beamer some credit. um They had...

Donald Glenn: They had... He suspended.

Crum: he he suspended he he didn't see it

Donald Glenn: He didn't see it.

Crum: But Dilton Stewart, Punching Alabama.

Donald Glenn: But Dylan Stewart, Punchin' Alabama. guy.

Crum: guy and then

Donald Glenn: And then... he wouldn't even get off the field

Crum: He wouldn't even get off the field. at different times when the South Carolina coaching staff was trying to sub in for him and get him out.

Donald Glenn: at different times when the South Carolina coaching staff was trying to sub in for him and get him out. He was just waving them off.

Crum: He was just waving them off.

Donald Glenn: Very disrespectful.

Crum: Very disrespectful. a

Donald Glenn: Yeah, I'm sorry.

Crum: A lot of intense conversation on the sidelines.

Donald Glenn: but intense conversation on the sideline I can imagine.

Crum: and Beamer went forward and he suspended him indefinitely.

Donald Glenn: Ooh.

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: um And then...

Crum: And then. Greg Sankey, the SEC commissioner, also said they were going to make sure that he was suspended one game.

Donald Glenn: Greg Sankey, the SEC commissioner, also said they were going to make sure that he suspended one game.

Crum: So.

Donald Glenn: So we'll see how that shakes out.

Crum: We'll see how that shakes out. so There was a lot of...

Crum: a lot of misconduct going on

Donald Glenn: A lot of misconduct going on.

Crum: and some games.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, and you hate you hate to see that.

Crum: that see that Yeah.

Donald Glenn: I wonder, you when you kind of hit it.

Crum: i wonder kind of earlier

Donald Glenn: earlier maybe Is it because these players are...

Crum: is because. players. Making money now.

Donald Glenn: Making money now. And they're just trying to get their brand going, if you will.

Crum: And they're just trying to get their brand going if you will.

Donald Glenn: Could be.

Crum: Could be.

Donald Glenn: I mean...

Crum: I mean... Get all the attention they can, right?

Donald Glenn: Get all the attention they can, right? yeah They know all the games are televised.

Crum: yeah They know all the games are televised. They're big games.

Donald Glenn: They're big games.

Crum: and right

Donald Glenn: Right, right. um

Crum: um You know show off in front of you know millions of people

Donald Glenn: you know Show off in front of... you know millions of people um

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: All right.

Crum: I don't.

Donald Glenn: I don't get it.

Crum: don't I don't get it, but...

Donald Glenn: i they they They're going to have to crack down or something.

Crum: But they they they they're going to have to crack down or something because also, I mean.

Donald Glenn: cause Oh, yeah. also i mean

Crum: yeah

Donald Glenn: the nfl does it all the time too and then it filters down the college and then so

Crum: the nfl does it all the time too and then it filters down the college and and so

Donald Glenn: Instead of thinking about winning a game, now you're just trying to come up with a...

Crum: Instead of thinking about winning a game, now you're just trying to come up with a... Needest.

Donald Glenn: Need us. celebration idea that you come up with and it's not even team oriented

Crum: celebration idea that you can come up with. And it's not even team oriented.

Donald Glenn: or anything, it's just...

Crum: or anything, it's just... you know self -motivated

Donald Glenn: you know self -motivated in

Crum: and ah

Donald Glenn: And, you know, it's going to fill her down to high school, and you can bet.

Crum: And, you know, it's going to fill her down to high school, and you can bet.

Donald Glenn: the bottom dollar that somebody in high school or even a

Crum: your bottom dollar that somebody in high school or even a

Donald Glenn: JFL game.

Crum: JFL game is Some kid's going to...

Donald Glenn: Some kid's gonna... pull some type of stunt.

Crum: pull some type of stunt.

Donald Glenn: like that just because they saw

Crum: like that just because they saw

Donald Glenn: their heroes or their favorite player Right.

Crum: their heroes or their favorite player do it. on a Saturday afternoon.

Donald Glenn: on a Saturday afternoon. and

Crum: and

Donald Glenn: Yep.

Crum: That's... Nuts.

Donald Glenn: that's That's not what this is all about.

Crum: That's not what this is all about. so me and

Donald Glenn: No, and and that's what it shouldn't be. i mean um it's It's one of those where...

Crum: it's one of those Like I said, I hit it on the head.

Donald Glenn: Like I said, I think like you hit it on the head There's no place for it, but these kids are getting paid, so now...

Crum: There's no. place for kids are getting paid for now

Donald Glenn: It's, you know, let's let's let's be the the bad boy.

Crum: It's, you know, let's let's let's be the the bad boy. you know

Donald Glenn: you know um Well, they're not supposed to be employees, right?

Crum: Well, they're not supposed to be employees, right?

Donald Glenn: They're not supposed to be employed.

Crum: they're They're not supposed to be employees.

Donald Glenn: They're not supposed to be named employees.

Crum: They're not supposed to be named to be employees.

Donald Glenn: but

Crum: but They're getting paid.

Donald Glenn: They're getting paid. it's it's it's it's the It's a business that they're promoting.

Crum: it's it's it's it's It's a business that they're and promoting.

Donald Glenn: And would you, ah if you ran a hardware store, if you ran a...

Crum: And would you, let if you ran a hardware store, if you ran a... a factory would you let that type behavior go on if you were the boss

Donald Glenn: a factory would you let that type of behavior go on if you were the boss no no i wouldn't i wouldn't and you know and regardless of whether they're getting paid you still get you still should have enough pride in yourself

Crum: You know, I mean come on you know or an artist. still getting It feels good in there. Nope.

Donald Glenn: that And you hear this all the time from some some some of the better coaches.

Crum: And I hear this all the time from some some some of the better coaches. You're playing from the name on the front.

Donald Glenn: you're You're playing for the name on the front, not the name on the back.

Crum: Not the name on the back.

Donald Glenn: In two minutes.

Crum: Not so many coaches say that anymore.

Donald Glenn: i'll just say that There's a few still saying it.

Crum: no saying A few, there's but not many.

Donald Glenn: There's still a few saying. I said the good ones.

Crum: i said to goodness

Donald Glenn: Um, but you know And i think that I think that's kind of getting lost and in all of this.

Crum: But, you know, and I think that's kind of getting the lost.

Donald Glenn: So...

Crum: So... anybody make them know

Donald Glenn: We're gonna break we're gonna you want to go ahead and go into the conferences or you want to take a quick break here, right okay?

Crum: point to conference where you Yeah, wouldn' take a quick break. And then I think we had most of, I was just going to say, I didn't want to really.

Donald Glenn: All right. we had most I'm just going to say that.

Crum: Leave anybody out.

Donald Glenn: and there's Most of the others were like blowouts, yeah. Texas Tech over Sam Houston State 49 -14.

Crum: Texas Tech over Sam Houston State, 49 -14. Kentucky over South Alabama, 45 -21.

Donald Glenn: Kentucky over South Alabama 45 -21. One game we didn't.

Crum: One game we didn't.

Donald Glenn: UCLA over Maryland.

Crum: UCLA over Maryland.

Donald Glenn: Oh yeah.

Crum: Oh, yeah.

Donald Glenn: who I mean...

Crum: Who's I mean Sure didn't see that coming.

Donald Glenn: Sure didn't see that coming.

Crum: and It was supposed to be maybe the other way around when the when the season started.

Donald Glenn: That was supposed to be maybe the other way around when the when the season started. Yeah.

Crum: UCLA not.

Donald Glenn: l a not Really?

Crum: Really?

Donald Glenn: going to be ah a team And Maryland was maybe be a little bit on the rise.

Crum: gonna be a ah team. And Marilyn is maybe a little bit on the... on the rise or you know not

Donald Glenn: On the rise. you know not Not.

Crum: Not. Top.

Donald Glenn: top three or four Big Ten right territory.

Crum: three or four Big Ten territory.

Donald Glenn: but

Crum: but

Donald Glenn: but up and coming a little bit.

Crum: but up and coming a little bit. And 54 -3.

Donald Glenn: And 54 to 3. Yeah, very.

Crum: At Maryland. And.

Donald Glenn: Well, you say LA in the top 25.

Crum: Bolton, you say LA in the top 25.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. And Lincoln Riley and USC has a.

Crum: All of a sudden, Lincoln Riley and USC has a.

Donald Glenn: they got a little competition out there yeah more

Crum: There are 13 shots. yeah from their neighbor when they're not.

Donald Glenn: from their neighbor, as well as the people up north.

Crum: As well as the people up north, you know.

Donald Glenn: I mean, you know, that's becoming a pretty decent little area for some.

Crum: that area person

Donald Glenn: some and

Crum: i think

Donald Glenn: I think... I said, well, you see how you see.

Crum: and i said well you see how you see U .S.

Donald Glenn: USC, UCLA play each other late in the season, is it?

Crum: and UCLA play each other late in the season.

Donald Glenn: I think.

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Crum: Alright, what do you want to do next my friend? Yeah, you USC and UCLA do play last game of the season, what we thought, and that'll be in the Rose Bowl.

Donald Glenn: USC and UCLA do play. Okay. last game the same ah be

Crum: Um,

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Crum: we had a little difficult we started having to re -record it and hopefully maybe it didn't get hooked back hooked back into the live stream

Donald Glenn: So.

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: I apologize for that.

Crum: I apologize for that.

Donald Glenn: But we will I will try and get it posted.

Crum: But we will. I will thank you. That was the...

Donald Glenn: Afterwards to YouTube, though.

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Donald Glenn: He just won't be able to see us live. um So.

Crum: So... Stop. Maybe we'll take a look at...

Donald Glenn: Maybe we'll take a look at...

Crum: some standings along with the key games of those conferences.

Donald Glenn: Some standings. along Okay. Key games of those conferences. Sure.

Crum: Sure.

Donald Glenn: the Power four any anyway to start with.

Crum: The power of four anyway to start with.

Donald Glenn: All right.

Crum: All right. So, and the Big 12.

Donald Glenn: So... Then the Big 12.

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: Big 12, okay. so with the the first week of

Crum: So with the the first week of...

Donald Glenn: conference games underneath.

Crum: conference games underneath. ah

Donald Glenn: Utah, Cincinnati, Texas Tech, BYU, Central Florida, Oklahoma State, Baylor and Arizona State.

Crum: Utah, Cincinnati, Texas Tech, BYU, Central Florida, Oklahoma State, Baylor and Arizona State.

Donald Glenn: We're all 1 -0.

Crum: We're all 1 -0. Yeah, in their first game.

Donald Glenn: Mm -hmm.

Crum: and

Donald Glenn: Utah, Cincinnati, Texas Tech and BYU are all undefeated overall.

Crum: Utah, Cincinnati, Texas Tech and BYU are all undefeated overall. Um, And number 20, Houston, even though they lost the one conference game to Texas Tech a couple weeks ago, they're 3 -1 and ranked 20th.

Donald Glenn: And number 20, Houston, even though they lost the one conference game to Texas Tech a couple weeks ago, they're 3 -1 and ranked 20th.

Crum: And probably she'll...

Donald Glenn: and probably she'll we'll be in the hunt as we go forward always i'm sure uh probably the one game um

Crum: We'll be in the hunt as we go forward. oh i'm sure Probably the one game. um This week would be

Donald Glenn: This week would be Baylor and Arizona State.

Crum: Baylor and Arizona State.

Donald Glenn: uh At Arizona State, Arizona State's a three and a half point favor.

Crum: uh at Arizona State. Arizona State's a three and a half point favorite.

Donald Glenn: that Saturday night.

Crum: that Saturday night.

Donald Glenn: Okay.

Crum: And.

Donald Glenn: and They...

Crum: They, uh... One of those teams will.

Donald Glenn: One of those things will Move to 2 -0 in the conference.

Crum: Moved to 2 -0 in the conference, so probably a big game.

Donald Glenn: That's right. play a big game this

Crum: this Stay up there in the back

Donald Glenn: Stay up there in the in the back

Crum: um The ACC.

Donald Glenn: The ACC. c

Crum: Uh...

Donald Glenn: Um... The standings of the undefeated teams, Miami and Clemson are 2 -0 apiece.

Crum: The standings, of the undefeated teams, Miami and Clemson are at 2 -0 apiece.

Donald Glenn: Pitt, Virginia Tech, Duke, and Virginia, all of 1 -0.

Crum: Pitt, Virginia Tech, Duke, and Virginia, all of 1 and 0. Miami Pitt, Virginia Tech, Duke are all undefeated overall.

Donald Glenn: Miami, Pitt, Virginia Tech, Duke are all undefeated overall. um

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: and And some teams that...

Crum: And and ah some teams that... Good play.

Donald Glenn: Good play. The park being the hunt.

Crum: apart to be in the hunt.

Donald Glenn: ah

Crum: ah to...

Donald Glenn: to

Crum: Maybe end up in the conference championship.

Donald Glenn: Maybe end up in the conference championship.

Crum: Wake Forest, Louisville, and SMU are all one and one.

Donald Glenn: Wake Forest Louisville, Nets, and you're all one and one. key games this week.

Crum: Key games this week.

Donald Glenn: from Blacksburg, Virginia at Lane Stadium.

Crum: From Blacksburg, Virginia at Lane Stadium, Pittsburgh and invades Virginia Tech.

Donald Glenn: Pittsburgh and invades Virginia Tech. and

Crum: Um, So one of those teams will...

Donald Glenn: So one of those things will You have to stay at the top of the conference.

Crum: You have to stay at the top of the conference.

Donald Glenn: Virginia Tech is a three -point favorite.

Crum: Virginia Tech is a three -point favorite. um

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: Out of conference, at least football -wise, North Carolina hosts Notre Dame.

Donald Glenn: Out of conference, at least football -wise, North Carolina hosts Notre Dame. Yeah. Notre Dame, 21 point favor.

Crum: Notre Dame, 21 -point favorite.

Donald Glenn: But the big one on ABC.

Crum: But the big one on ABC.

Donald Glenn: TV 630 Saturday night.

Crum: TV 630 Saturday night.

Donald Glenn: from Memorial Stadium in Clemson, South Carolina, Miami at Clemson.

Crum: from Memorial Stadium in Clemson, South Carolina, Miami at Clemson.

Donald Glenn: And Clemson, I have to say, has been a surprise.

Crum: In Clemson, I had to see this Christ.

Donald Glenn: They have surprised me this year.

Crum: questions well Well, they started out a little slow, the getting killed in the...

Donald Glenn: It's a little slow, little slow but... getting killed in the that rude

Crum: baton rouge and then the

Donald Glenn: But.

Crum: Sluggish win.

Donald Glenn: sluggish win

Crum: the next week, but.

Donald Glenn: The next week. But since then, they've they've caught stride.

Crum: since then there they thr they won three in a row uh two in the conference and uh

Donald Glenn: they've won through in a row two in the conference yeah in the They are 16 and a half point underdogs, but they do have the hurricanes at home.

Crum: They are 16 and a half point underdogs, but they do have the Hurricanes at home. and

Donald Glenn: and

Crum: So chance to maybe make a statement.

Donald Glenn: So chance to maybe make a statement. and

Crum: and I think so.

Donald Glenn: I think so. I think it'd be i think it's definitely a chance they're going to have to you know put a put a mark, as you say, on the...

Crum: I think it's definitely a chance they're going to have. you know put ah put a mark as you say on the

Donald Glenn: on the the standings in the ACC.

Crum: on the uh standings

Donald Glenn: if

Crum: If Clint can pull that off.

Donald Glenn: If Clemson can pull that off...

Crum: Good night.

Donald Glenn: And now you've got Miami.

Crum: Good night. Alright.

Donald Glenn: Um, Well, Miami's number four in the country.

Crum: Well, Miami's number four in the country, so that would be it.

Donald Glenn: so If I was on the right conference, I could find who I'm looking for.

Crum: You actually put Miami on the run.

Donald Glenn: You you actually put Miami on the run.

Crum: I think Duke's off this week, so they're going to stay undefeated.

Donald Glenn: Now, I think Duke's off this week, so they're going to stay undefeated. And like you said, Pittsburgh goes to Blacksburg.

Crum: and I was at Pittsburgh doing some Blacksburg. loose Now you can.

Donald Glenn: They end up losing that one. You could really shake up and start making a division line in that ACC.

Crum: you can really shake up and start making a division line it's complete Yeah. you know um it could get pretty bunched up five six seven teams there but

Donald Glenn: It can get pretty bunched up. Five, six, seven teams there. but

Crum: I'm sure Miami will have a lot to say come Saturday night.

Donald Glenn: I'm sure Miami will have a lot to say. Oh, yeah. Miami's going to have a lot to say on that subject, you know.

Crum: have a lot to Yeah. down

Donald Glenn: so uh

Crum: So... then uh

Donald Glenn: then Moving to the SEC.

Crum: Moving to the SEC.

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: Um...

Donald Glenn: you have five teams

Crum: you have five teams Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi State, and Texas, all 4 -0.

Donald Glenn: Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi State, and Texas, all 4 -0. All are 2 -0 in the conference except Texas.

Crum: All are 2 -0 in the conference except Texas. They're they're currently 1 -0.

Donald Glenn: They're 1 -0. And a couple key games this week.

Crum: And a couple key games this week.

Donald Glenn: Number 7, Alabama.

Crum: Number seven, Alabama.

Donald Glenn: Goes into Starkville, Mississippi.

Crum: Goes into Starkville, Mississippi.

Donald Glenn: It's an ABC game at 11 a .m., an early one.

Crum: It's an ABC game at 11 a .m., an early one. like Mississippi State.

Donald Glenn: Early.

Crum: And Alabama is a currently a six -point favorite.

Donald Glenn: and Alabama is a currently a six -point favorite.

Crum: But...

Donald Glenn: the One of those teams will stay at the top, moving to 3 -0.

Crum: One of those teams will stay at the top, moving to 3 -0.

Donald Glenn: So it's a big game.

Crum: So it's a big game.

Donald Glenn: And then another one, number eight, Florida at number 25, Missouri.

Crum: And then another one, number eight, Florida at number 25, Missouri.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: I kind of hate to see that because, you know, you hope maybe Simmons bounces back and at least has a good game.

Crum: I kind of hate to see that with, you know, the whole baby Simmons bounce back. He has a good game.

Donald Glenn: Or at least doesn't get as rattled

Crum: or at least doesn't get as rattled.

Donald Glenn: Because like I said, they even though he they looked rattled, they didn't lose by much.

Crum: Because like I said, they even though he they looked around, they didn't lose by much.

Donald Glenn: And they were in that game all the way until the end.

Crum: And they were in that game all the way until the end. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: I mean, they have a 24 -point win, but I mean, still, they...

Crum: I mean, they ended up a 24 point win, but I mean, still they.

Donald Glenn: it was Oh, I shouldn't say that.

Crum: That was really good.

Donald Glenn: They're about midway through the fourth quarter and that's, yeah.

Crum: about come up neighborhood to fourth Yeah, now yeah ah

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: But does you know Florida maintain, they've they've climbed, and like I said, with 13 spots to number eight, and but they go on the road to Columbia.

Donald Glenn: but this you know florida maintain they they've climbed like i said with the 13 spots number eight and uh but they go on the road to columbia And that will be a 2 -30 game on ABC.

Crum: And that'll be a 230 game on ABC, and Florida's a five -point favorite.

Donald Glenn: And Florida is a five -point favorite. And we'll see if...

Crum: And we'll see if...

Donald Glenn: Florida.

Crum: Florida.

Donald Glenn: continues to rise Yeah.

Crum: continues to rise. um maybe

Donald Glenn: um Maybe.

Crum: I wouldn't say being a trap game, but you know that was that that that was a big game in Gainesville for them.

Donald Glenn: Wouldn't say being a trap game. but you know It could be. That was a big game in Gainesville for him. i mean Yeah.

Crum: I mean, Ole Miss came in high and mighty with their big win over LSU.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Right.

Crum: and So.

Donald Glenn: So i i looked to I look forward to seeing that game.

Crum: i look to I look forward to seeing that game, except I'll be at the Illinois -Purdue game, so we'll get to see.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, so do I. Except I'll be at the Illinois -Purdue game. Oh, I won't be this time. won't be i i i was I was at the Illinois -Southern game.

Crum: i was that again i wont get the one

Donald Glenn: I won't be at the Illinois -Purdue game. But, yeah.

Crum: So then...

Donald Glenn: So I'll have a chance to watch it. Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: So that gets us...

Crum: So that gets us... ah To the...

Donald Glenn: Yep.

Crum: Big 10 Go.

Donald Glenn: I got some...

Crum: I got some...

Donald Glenn: You got some help there?

Crum: We'll get some help here.

Donald Glenn: help bigger Remy, he doesn't need your help, buddy.

Crum: Get out, buddy.

Donald Glenn: Get down, bud.

Crum: Get out, bud.

Donald Glenn: my my That's my dog Remy.

Crum: my That's my dog.

Donald Glenn: He wants to get in on the show.

Crum: to get in on the show yeah we've become buddies since i go Come on, bud.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. Remington, get down, buddy. Come on, bud.

Crum: All right.

Donald Glenn: hey

Crum: Hey, come on.

Donald Glenn: Come on get in.

Crum: Get in. hey yeah

Donald Glenn: Get out. Okay. Get down.

Crum: Get down. come on bud Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Come on, bud. Get down.

Crum: So you got in the Big Ten, you got...

Donald Glenn: So you got in the Big Ten, you got... UCLA, Indiana, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio State.

Crum: You sell Indiana, Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio State.

Donald Glenn: Oregon, Minnesota, Wisconsin all undefeated with UCLA having two victories.

Crum: Oregon, Minnesota, Wisconsin all undefeated with UCLA having two victories.

Donald Glenn: In conference.

Crum: In the conference, UCLA, Indiana, Nebraska, and Iowa.

Donald Glenn: sale and indian nebraska and iowa We're all 4 -0.

Crum: We're all 4 -0. Um...

Donald Glenn: Um... Yeah, let's see.

Crum: Yeah, let's see games this week.

Donald Glenn: games this week.

Crum: well Well, we'll just...

Donald Glenn: Well... what what this

Crum: Ohio, the big one, Ohio State, number five, goes into Iowa City.

Donald Glenn: Ohio, the big one, Ohio State, number five. goes in Mm -hmm

Crum: mm -hmm

Donald Glenn: Um... And as we've said earlier, Ohio State's 14 -point favorite.

Crum: And as we said earlier, Ohio State's a 14 -point. favored that's a tooth know he's a de being and that you talking got track wing

Donald Glenn: You know, like I said, that could be – you're talking about trap games.

Donald Glenn: I mean, you're going you're you're you're going to Iowa City.

Crum: I mean, you're going through if you're going to Iowa State.

Donald Glenn: they just they just

Crum: latest

Donald Glenn: Came away with a big win at the big house.

Crum: came away with a big win at the big house Oh.

Donald Glenn: Um... you know iowa Ohio State's coming off of...

Crum: You know, how is he coming off of? I don't want to say laughter, but a...

Donald Glenn: I don't want to say lapper, but a... a

Crum: a

Donald Glenn: a

Crum: a

Donald Glenn: Solid win against Illinois.

Crum: Solid win against Illinois. See if Iowa can move the ball against Ohio State like Illinois did.

Donald Glenn: See if Iowa can move the ball against Ohio State like Illinois did.

Crum: You know, I'm in Illinois, I think.

Donald Glenn: You know, I mean, Illinois, I think. I don't know. Maybe had a little better offense than Iowa.

Crum: Maybe has a little better offense than Iowa.

Donald Glenn: I mean, but Iowa certainly.

Crum: I mean, but Iowa certainly.

Donald Glenn: Stacks up the defense and the special teams.

Crum: stacks up the defense and the special teams.

Donald Glenn: Oh, yeah, no doubt about that.

Crum: yeah a home game, they'll they'll be revved up.

Donald Glenn: They'll be revved up.

Crum: and

Donald Glenn: and Oh, yeah. I think that'll be it.

Crum: I think that'll be it.

Donald Glenn: Take game.

Crum: Tight game. I think it could be.

Donald Glenn: i think it could be i think it could very well be a tight game

Crum: I think it could very well be a tight game.

Donald Glenn: um And with Iowa State already losing one, I mean, that...

Crum: And with Iowa State already losing one, I mean, that.

Donald Glenn: that

Crum: that Give them a second loss.

Donald Glenn: Give them a second loss.

Crum: As a matter of fact...

Donald Glenn: Oh, yeah, you get. ki fact I think.

Crum: I think. But guys...

Donald Glenn: But guys...

Crum: So they go to Iowa this week and they have Maryland home game, but then they got to go to Indiana And they have to go to USC.

Donald Glenn: So they go to Iowa this week and they have Maryland home game, but then they got to go to Indiana. and They have to go to USC.

Crum: Yeah, they play a lot of big games.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, they they play a lot of big games on the road this year.

Crum: ho And then they have Oregon at home and then Michigan later on. So Ohio State's really got a pretty tough.

Donald Glenn: end conference schedule there it This could be the year that you can see Ohio State.

Crum: end conference schedule. This could be the year you see Ohio State.

Donald Glenn: maybe not make the the playoffs.

Crum: Maybe. not make food Well, and I think we talked last week, Iowa, I mean, with their schedule.

Donald Glenn: Well, and I think we talked last week, Iowa, I mean, with their schedule. I mean...

Crum: I mean...

Donald Glenn: They'll go to Washington.

Crum: they'll go to washington

Donald Glenn: and then they at minnesota wisconsin home at northwestern forre doing them that

Crum: And then they at Minnesota, Wisconsin at home, at Northwestern, Purdue at home.

Donald Glenn: I mean...

Crum: i mean

Donald Glenn: Iowa would got past Michigan and they and they would...

Crum: Iowa would got past Michigan a and they would...

Donald Glenn: Somehow beat Ohio State.

Crum: somehow beat Ohio State, they could...

Donald Glenn: They control their destiny.

Crum: They could almost run the table, yeah.

Donald Glenn: let on the table yeah Yeah.

Crum: i mean because the a tough

Donald Glenn: I mean, because the tough, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but the toughest game they got after.

Crum: Correct me if I'm wrong.

Donald Glenn: Uh, um that the how the buckeyes

Crum: um after the buckeyes would be us

Donald Glenn: would be us.

Crum: Go on.

Donald Glenn: illinois

Crum: You're not even laughing on that one.

Donald Glenn: you're not even laughing on that one no

Crum: no

Donald Glenn: Well, I would have said Washington, but well Washington looked very good.

Crum: Well, I would have said Washington, but, you know, Washington looked very good at home against Minnesota.

Donald Glenn: No.

Crum: so you know

Donald Glenn: So, you know.

Crum: they i know was

Donald Glenn: And I only say it because it's on the road. it it's at It's at Memorial Stadium.

Crum: Yeah. Exactly.

Donald Glenn: so

Crum: I mean, it was out of the city.

Donald Glenn: I mean, if it was at Iowa City, I'd probably think different.

Crum: and Yeah, they go to Minnesota.

Donald Glenn: yeah

Crum: I don't know. that

Donald Glenn: No, maybe go yeah, maybe minnesota minnesota

Crum: maybe kind of a run but I don't know. that

Donald Glenn: They're all...

Crum: They're old. I would probably be favored in every single one of those games.

Donald Glenn: would probably be favored in every single one Oh, I'm sure they will be. I'm sure they will be.

Crum: I'm sure So.

Donald Glenn: oh

Crum: They get by the Buckeyes.

Donald Glenn: Bye now, guys. No doubt about it. Um...

Crum: One thing.

Donald Glenn: One thing we didn't mention in the Illinois -Ohio State game is actually it's not in the game.

Crum: Ohio Street, and it's actually not in the movie, it's the aftermath of the movie, actually the next day.

Donald Glenn: It was the aftermath of the game, actually the next day.

Crum: All right.

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: Elio is the coordinator of body health.

Donald Glenn: Illinois defensive coordinator, Bobby Hawk. is now

Crum: is now Ever.

Donald Glenn: No longer. So you wonder how that's going to affect Illinois.

Crum: So you wonder how that's going to affect Illinois.

Donald Glenn: Now, granted, going in against Purdue is not going to be a big deal.

Crum: non grand point and against produce nothing

Donald Glenn: I don't think it's going to be a big deal.

Crum: I don't think it's gonna be a big deal.

Donald Glenn: But, you know.

Crum: Well, Illinois is 10 -point favorites, but Purdue and Illinois usually play some.

Donald Glenn: Pretty close games.

Crum: Pretty close games, and really until last year or so.

Donald Glenn: And really, until last year or so, I mean, Purdue's had Illinois' number.

Crum: i mean Purdue's had Illinois' number.

Donald Glenn: And even...

Crum: And even. You know. Pulled out that 50.

Donald Glenn: hold out that 50

Crum: 49 game.

Donald Glenn: forty nine Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: But let's do it.

Donald Glenn: and And I know I'm not so much, like I said, not so much about this game, but you didn't think down the road that they, you know, who's when you've got Michigan state coming up at East Lansing.

Crum: had a ro face when you've got michigan state coming up at east lansing It ain't been any longer than four minutes from the town after that.

Donald Glenn: And then Oregon comes to town after that.

Crum: i mean

Donald Glenn: I mean... you know um

Crum: you know

Donald Glenn: You've got it.

Crum: Yeah. But you do have a week.

Donald Glenn: man You do have a week between Michigan State and Oregon.

Crum: between Michigan State. or Well, like we said, this week and next week.

Donald Glenn: get things settled down. like next

Crum: um This must wince for Illinois for a bowl.

Donald Glenn: This is... glens for illinois for a bowl

Crum: season Yeah.

Donald Glenn: See ya. Yeah.

Crum: If they don't get two, I don't think they're they're bowling.

Donald Glenn: yeah If they don't get two, I don't think they're... They're bowling.

Crum: It'll be difficult.

Donald Glenn: It'll be difficult. It'll be difficult for sure.

Crum: Yeah. but guess yeah very does um Yeah, going on.

Donald Glenn: they got steal a If they don't win these two, they've got to steal a game somewhere.

Crum: Yeah, but Ohio State just ran up and down the field against Illinois and so have other teams, just just not the Buckeyes and Columbus on Saturday.

Donald Glenn: But Ohio State just ran up and down the field against Illinois. And so have other teams, just just not the Buckeyes and Columbus on Saturday. but

Crum: but Um,

Donald Glenn: um My God, we have nine guys.

Crum: My God, we had nine guys. on on defense there on Ohio State had it.

Donald Glenn: On defense there on Ohio State. a Yeah, how do you do that?

Crum: We are lying, I mean.

Donald Glenn: I don't know.

Crum: I mean... like flat leftroom cra i won't play high school football but you know when you around.

Donald Glenn: I mean, granted, I only played high school football, but you know when you were out there on special teams, defense, whatever.

Crum: home. Specialty is whatever. No.

Donald Glenn: You know, the the whoever the captain of the defense was, you're you're counting.

Crum: You're counting.

Donald Glenn: Before the you know, you're canning I got 11.

Crum: Before this, you know, you're candy. I got 11, I got 11, you know.

Donald Glenn: Have I got 11, you know

Crum: we were We were coming back around outside of Peoria.

Donald Glenn: We were they were coming back around the and so I'm listening to Barnhart on the radio and Kerry Davis.

Crum: We had a soccer game, and so I'm listening to Barnhart on the radio and Kerry Davis. and And Mitchell.

Donald Glenn: mitchell Yeah.

Crum: and Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And Barnhart goes...

Crum: And Barnard goes. Oh, Kerry Davis was counting.

Donald Glenn: Oh, Gary Davis was counting.

Crum: had a

Donald Glenn: And he'd come back and he goes...

Crum: And they come back and he goes.

Donald Glenn: Ryan?

Crum: b Brian. Illinois only had nine guys and that yeah you know

Donald Glenn: the oil Nine players on the top, yeah. we're stopping with 11 we sure know when we're stopping with 9 that's for sure no no doubt about that so good luck to bobby hawk whatever he does yeah he had success out out west yeah

Crum: I mean, we weren't stopping with 11. We sure as hell weren't going to stop with 9. Sure. No, no doubt. Anyway, good luck to Bobby Hawk, whatever he does. I know he had success out out west. but We all kind of thought that the 3 -3 -5 was not going to play, and especially play in the Big Ten.

Donald Glenn: We all kind of thought that the 335 was not going to...

Donald Glenn: Well, I think it can...

Crum: and But, but you got you know, you got to.

Donald Glenn: You've got you know you got to you gotta to have the horses.

Crum: You've got to have the horses.

Donald Glenn: You've got to have the athletes, and then Illinois doesn't really have that.

Crum: You do. You've got to have the athletes, and and Illinois doesn't really have that on on defense.

Donald Glenn: on i think I think it could play into Big Ten, but you need the right personnel.

Crum: like the right You need the right personnel. You need some ball hawks.

Donald Glenn: you need some

Crum: you know innate You need.

Donald Glenn: You need me.

Crum: i mean You need some tough guys up front, some big guys, but you need some fast.

Donald Glenn: You need some tough guys up front, some big guys, but you need some fast.

Crum: Good.

Donald Glenn: Good.

Crum: on that second three to get across the field.

Donald Glenn: I think one's second three again yeah that's what' that i think we the secondary I don't think was a problem for Illinois.

Crum: the second round I think it was that middle section there that mindapp just did not.

Donald Glenn: I think it was that middle section there that linebackers just did not have what it took.

Crum: have but it i mean well as You've seen some decent performances.

Donald Glenn: I mean, you've you've seen some decent performances from from Conte.

Crum: content.

Donald Glenn: and Rhea.

Crum: And Ray.

Donald Glenn: But, I mean, outside of a couple of games here and there, that's not going to win it for you.

Crum: But, I mean, outside of a couple of games here, but that's nothing to win it for you.

Donald Glenn: You've got to have that every game.

Crum: You've got to have that every game. if you got

Donald Glenn: You've got to be there.

Crum: Well you can't.

Donald Glenn: you you can't

Crum: single cover

Donald Glenn: single cover Jeremiah Smith.

Crum: Jeremiah Smith.

Donald Glenn: No. And especially with Mac Rezac.

Crum: And especially with Matt Grusak.

Donald Glenn: Research.

Crum: Yes. That was a mismatch from day one.

Donald Glenn: That was a mismatch from day one. i don't

Crum: i don't

Donald Glenn: In what world do you even come up with that?

Crum: In what world do you even come up with that? I mean...

Donald Glenn: I mean... And I'll stay, obviously.

Crum: Now, Ohio State, obviously.

Donald Glenn: took advantage of it Oh, yeah.

Crum: took advantage of it. oh yeah

Donald Glenn: and theyve an i don't I don't think.

Crum: I mean, I don't i don't think. You know probably outcome would have been probably maybe close to the same but

Donald Glenn: You know. Probably the outcome would have been probably maybe close to the same, but...

Crum: you You got it covered.

Donald Glenn: You got it covered.

Crum: The horse?

Donald Glenn: Their best guy, you've got to cover with your best guys.

Crum: I mean... you you you got of trouble with your back i why they

Donald Glenn: well Why Bailey or...

Crum: are

Donald Glenn: so or

Crum: Xavier Scott.

Donald Glenn: Scott wasn't on on Smith.

Crum: wasn't on on Smith, I am.

Donald Glenn: I have no clue. That just doesn't make any sense to me why those.

Crum: That just doesn't make sense. No. it's so

Donald Glenn: So but moving on.

Crum: So but moving on. uh let's go there too

Donald Glenn: Let's go now to... Who got left?

Crum: We're going to let it take hold.

Donald Glenn: Big 12? See what we got left?

Crum: we got No, we did that.

Donald Glenn: Oh, we did them? we we did them on a cover and i didn't

Crum: We we didn't kind of covered. I didn't. I was meant to be after all.

Donald Glenn: I guess like we have covered all of the conferences.

Crum: congress okay i like yeah so i was just uh maybe look

Donald Glenn: Okay, never mind.

Donald Glenn: I thought we... made just look

Crum: if we missed anything on the Uh...

Donald Glenn: If we missed any thing on that. uh Top 25.

Crum: Top 25. ah for this week.

Donald Glenn: This week.

Crum: on games

Donald Glenn: on games Let me see.

Crum: M's.

Donald Glenn: Get there. Um...

Crum: save so well one that I don't think it's going to be a contest, but I am interested to see how they bounce back.

Donald Glenn: Well, one that I don't think is going to be a contest, but I am good i am be interested to see how they bounce back. is Bandy versus number two, Georgia.

Crum: is Bandy vs. No. 2 Georgia.

Donald Glenn: um it's it's a road it's It's a road game for Vandy.

Crum: It's Rosa and Jordan. 25 point.

Donald Glenn: point. Yeah, I mean...

Crum: yeah i mean they

Donald Glenn: They've... They didn't look that good Last week.

Crum: They didn't look that good last week.

Donald Glenn: um i mean they did it okay don't get me wrong but

Crum: I mean, they were a little bit on the wrong. Yeah. Um...

Donald Glenn: Um, You know, I was kind of, I was kind of watching, I was kind of going back and forth between that and a couple of the games and it just didn't seem like they really had.

Crum: You know, I was kind of watching, I was kind of going back and forth between that and a couple of the games. It just didn't seem like they really had.

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: And it inspired me.

Donald Glenn: had any fire to him. I mean...

Crum: I mean...

Donald Glenn: You know, I mean, they they did they didn't lose by much, only six points, but it's to Auburn for crying out loud.

Crum: You know, I mean, they they did they didn't lose by much in these six points, but it's to Auburn. And to our Colorado buddy that checked in.

Donald Glenn: Into our Colorado buddy that checked in. Oh, yes.

Crum: a They're at home.

Donald Glenn: a They're at home. Um...

Crum: Um,

Donald Glenn: in Boulder.

Crum: in Boulder.

Donald Glenn: and playing Texas Tech.

Crum: and playing Texas Tech. who comes in 4 -0, Colorado's 2 -2, and two then the Red Raiders are a 12 .5 -point favorite.

Donald Glenn: who comes in 4 -0. Colorado's 2 -2. The Red Raiders are a 12 .5 point favor. That'll be a...

Crum: That'll be a Saturday night game at 630.

Donald Glenn: Saturday night game at 6 .30. Good luck to our buddy.

Crum: Good luck to our buddy.

Donald Glenn: but Yeah, we had a couple check -ins on YouTube.

Crum: We had a couple check -ins on YouTube.

Donald Glenn: on on our on

Crum: Don't mess with our, our.

Donald Glenn: on our some of our our

Crum: Clips as they say

Donald Glenn: clips, as they say.

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: ah So we appreciate you guys checking in there.

Crum: So we appreciate you guys stepping in there.

Donald Glenn: And again, ah um

Crum: uh

Donald Glenn: I'm sorry this is not live streaming.

Crum: I'm sorry. I've got to figure out what happened there.

Donald Glenn: I've got to figure out what happened there. um But, you know, we'll get that fixed for sure.

Crum: But, you know, we'll get that fixed for sure.

Donald Glenn: I mean.

Crum: i this is this whole

Donald Glenn: This is this whole YouTube thing is a new process for me.

Crum: It's new process for me.

Donald Glenn: So, um you know, if if I'm going through some growing pains with it.

Crum: so um you know I'm going to just roll the piece with it.

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: but you know contact us let us know you can always uh

Crum: but you know contact us let us know you can always

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Donald Glenn: Leave some comments there. When you see the clips on YouTube or Spotify or other places, you can always leave comments there.

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Crum: You can be notified of that.

Donald Glenn: If you want to go to Zencaster and get an account and get the live feed when we broadcast it, you'll be notified of that. you know Let us know that you're listening.

Crum: And let us know that you're listening.

Donald Glenn: Give us a follow.

Crum: Give us a follow, give us a shout.

Donald Glenn: Give us a shout.

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: We really have to leave.

Donald Glenn: we really We really appreciate everybody out there.

Crum: Ready to come up there.

Donald Glenn: um So we've got one more section to go through.

Crum: of So we've got one more segment to go through.

Donald Glenn: well

Crum: Well, I was going to finish with, well, not finish, finish, I guess, the the Big Ten schedule.

Donald Glenn: finish Oh, you're going to finish. I'm sorry. Not finish, finish. The Big Ten schedule. Oh.

Crum: We didn't.

Donald Glenn: and

Crum: Kind of looking ahead.

Donald Glenn: kind of look We did well we did I thought we looked at that I apologize.

Crum: coming up. well we did some of the old big

Donald Glenn: some of the Oh, the big games, but we didn't do the schedule.

Crum: the big games in the top 25, but we did, actually that's right.

Donald Glenn: Oh, okay. the top twenty five I apologize for that.

Crum: That's why I'm here to cover your mistakes.

Donald Glenn: That's why I'm here to cover. You understand? That's right. He he keeps me say he heaps me honest, folks.

Crum: uh Friday night.

Donald Glenn: Friday night. Second week in a row for the Wildcats Northwestern.

Crum: Second week in a row for the Wildcats of Northwestern. They they play host to Penn State.

Donald Glenn: They play host to Penn State.

Crum: 7 7 p .m.

Donald Glenn: 7 p .m. Friday night.

Crum: Friday night

Donald Glenn: o Penn State is just a two and a half point favor.

Crum: Penn State is just a two and a half point favor.

Donald Glenn: Well...

Crum: So... <unk> be Looking forward to to...

Donald Glenn: i'll be looking forward to to watching that game.

Crum: watching that game. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, and that's going to be at Northwestern.

Crum: And that's going to be that Northwestern.

Donald Glenn: That's going to be there.

Crum: That's going to be there.

Donald Glenn: So that could be a game that...

Crum: that's a beautiful Well, like you said.

Donald Glenn: Well, like you said. um we might we you know we might We might be seeing a short -lived, we might have a new coach for the hot seat next week.

Crum: We might, we you know, we might we might be seeing a short -lived... We might have a good question for Heart Seed next week. It could.

Donald Glenn: Good.

Crum: um And then...

Donald Glenn: And then...

Crum: ah We got Michigan at Minnesota.

Donald Glenn: Michigan at Minnesota. soda Michigan's a five and a half point favorite.

Crum: Michigan's a five and a half point favorite. That's an early game on Saturday, 11 a .m.

Donald Glenn: That's an early game on Saturday, 11 a .m. Mm hmm.

Crum: No. Michigan State, Wisconsin.

Donald Glenn: Michigan State. Wisconsin.

Crum: At Wisconsin Up.

Donald Glenn: wisconsin up Up there in Madison, Wisconsin's a 10 -point favorite after their big win in Happy Valley last week.

Crum: Up there in Madison, Wisconsin's a 10 -point favorite after their big win in Happy Valley last week.

Donald Glenn: out

Crum: The aforementioned Ohio State -Iowa game.

Donald Glenn: The aforementioned Ohio State -Iowa game. right Nebraska, Maryland.

Crum: brass miracle Yeah, Maryland, man.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, Maryland man here.

Crum: there Yeah, it's a 3 o 'clock Saturday afternoon game.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, it's a 3 o 'clock Saturday afternoon game.

Crum: and That could lead Nebraska to...

Donald Glenn: could That could lead Nebraska to...

Crum: a 5 -0 start

Donald Glenn: the 510 start, which they...

Crum: uh which they

Donald Glenn: Then get Indiana next week at home.

Crum: Then get Indiana next week at home.

Donald Glenn: so

Crum: so

Donald Glenn: They would probably like to win that.

Crum: that They would probably like to win that.

Donald Glenn: And Rutgers gets a, I mean, Indiana gets a bye this week.

Crum: roof record I mean... any i we

Donald Glenn: They play Rutgers.

Crum: rough

Donald Glenn: Take him on record.

Crum: Picking on Rutgers.

Donald Glenn: How'd that get to be an eight o 'clock primetime game?

Crum: Indiana's only 23 and a half point favored.

Donald Glenn: three out point favorite Only? but you know usa had some problems out there Well, that's true.

Crum: But, you know, USC had some problems out there. and so ah

Donald Glenn: That's true.

Crum: And then a ah West Coast game also, Washington at USC.

Donald Glenn: And then a ah West Coast game also, Washington at USC. We'll see how Southern Cal.

Crum: We'll see how Southern Cal.

Donald Glenn: Bounces back after her first loss to the Oregon Ducks.

Crum: Bounces back after their first loss to... The Oregon Ducks. Saturday night.

Donald Glenn: Saturday night. USC comes in a nine -point favorite.

Crum: USC comes in a nine -point favorite. Um, In the morning.

Donald Glenn: And oregon Oregon gets the week off.

Crum: Yeah, and then

Donald Glenn: Yeah and then

Crum: The Southeast Conference.

Donald Glenn: The Southeast Conference. i

Crum: i

Donald Glenn: I think we...

Crum: I think we...

Donald Glenn: ever.

Crum: cover

Crum: Auburn goes into Tennessee, Kentucky at South Carolina.

Donald Glenn: Auburn goes into Tennessee, Kentucky, and South Carolina. Arkansas, Texas A &M.

Crum: Arkansas, Texas A &M.

Donald Glenn: LSU outside of the conference

Crum: LSU outside of the conference. 53 -point favorite over McNeese State.

Donald Glenn: 53 -point favorite over McNeese State. saturday night Only 53?

Crum: on Saturday night. only Only 53.

Donald Glenn: fifty three oh okay uh kind of switching back over to the big 12 rule we didn't mention um

Crum: okay so uh Yeah. um

Donald Glenn: Number 20, Houston at home against uniongen University of Central Florida.

Crum: number 22 students at home against University of Central Florida. enough Mm -hmm.

Donald Glenn: um You know, Central Florida has been doing a surprise of people or two.

Crum: you know Florida. surprised Yeah, they're three in one actually both of them are three in one three

Donald Glenn: Yeah, they're 3 -1. Actually, both of them are 3 -1. Both of them are 3 -1, so be ah that ought to be a decent little contest.

Crum: so that ought to be a decent Man.

Donald Glenn: Early game.

Crum: Early game from Houston, Texas.

Donald Glenn: Houston, Texas. Carol?

Crum: Um...

Donald Glenn: Cincinnati, 4 -0 at Arizona.

Crum: Cincinnati, 4 -0 at Arizona.

Donald Glenn: Arizona is a six and a half point favorite.

Crum: Arizona is a six and a half point favorite in that.

Donald Glenn: Really?

Crum: Yep, Cincinnati 4 -0, Arizona 3 -1.

Donald Glenn: Yep, Cincinnati 4 -0, Arizona 3 -1.

Crum: um Hmm.

Donald Glenn: That's a late game, 10 o 'clock Saturday evening.

Crum: That's a late game, 10 o 'clock Saturday evening. um

Donald Glenn: West Virginia goes to Iowa State.

Crum: West Virginia goes to Iowa State. And uh...

Donald Glenn: That kind of wraps up the Big 12.

Crum: That kind of wraps up the Big 12.

Donald Glenn: Big 12. Just so we're covering our bases, the ACC.

Crum: Just so we're covering our bases, the ACC.

Donald Glenn: Pittsburgh and Virginia Tech Friday night.

Crum: Pittsburgh to Virginia Tech Friday night.

Donald Glenn: We mentioned Notre Dame was at North Carolina.

Crum: We mentioned Notre Dame is at North Carolina. Stanford gets the long haul to Wake Forest.

Donald Glenn: Stanford gets the long haul to White Forest. who cross country for an 11 o 'clock every morning.

Crum: Cross country for an 11 a .m. game Saturday morning.

Donald Glenn: oh Hello.

Crum: Hello.

Donald Glenn: Hey, let's have fun with that one, right?

Crum: hey ah Yeah. Maybe they should leave today to get used to it, or tonight.

Donald Glenn: maybe they should leave today to get used to it you get used to the time change

Crum: and um Boston College, it's ah SMU, Syracuse at Connecticut.

Donald Glenn: Boston College, it's ah SMU. Syracuse, of Connecticut.

Crum: Virginia and Florida State.

Donald Glenn: Virginia and Florida State. um

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: That could be good.

Crum: i mean yeah that might be yeah you know

Donald Glenn: yeah That might be it might be game to watch.

Crum: uh just uh 2 30 again

Donald Glenn: 3 .30, well, 2 .30, I guess, ESPN. Cal goes outside of the conference to play UNLV.

Crum: cow goes outside of the ground lineel will be Louisville goes to North Carolina State.

Donald Glenn: of North Carolina.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: And then the big game, as we mentioned, Miami at Clemson Saturday night.

Donald Glenn: Big game, as we mentioned, Miami. yeah um I think that's where everybody's going to be tuning into on that one.

Crum: i think if we guilty on that one that's go one of the of the Yeah, things yeah.

Donald Glenn: That's going to be one of the the key games to watch.

Crum: to watch

Donald Glenn: I i really do feel that.

Crum: Amen.

Donald Glenn: And, you know.

Crum: You know.

Donald Glenn: So one one thing we've weve we've kind of rarely talked about is some of these.

Crum: So what do you kind of really talked about is some of these

Donald Glenn: Group of five schools.

Crum: Group of five rules.

Donald Glenn: Right.

Crum: Right. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And. um

Crum: No.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, I don't know.

Crum: Amen.

Donald Glenn: I mean, really, there's nothing to really make hay of until we really start getting close to the.

Crum: Hmm. there's nothing really big paid off until we really start getting close to the

Donald Glenn: to where we it becomes a playoff selection.

Crum: world. uh playoff selection

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: um you know.

Donald Glenn: you know.

Crum: so i i found a little bit of a tidbit if we got a couple minutes yet okay so

Donald Glenn: so i ah found A little bit of a tidbit if we got a couple minutes. Oh, we got we got time. okay so Yes.

Crum: This. I picked up...

Donald Glenn: i picked up

Donald Glenn: i'm not sure where i picked it up Okay, uh -huh

Crum: I'm not sure where I picked it up, folks. But I'm just going to tell you, if the playoff were today.

Donald Glenn: they they went through this and

Crum: they they went through this and

Donald Glenn: The playoffs for today in the ACC, Miami would be in.

Crum: The playoffs for today in the ACC, Miami would be in.

Donald Glenn: Mm hmm.

Crum: ah

Donald Glenn: On the right side of the bubble is none.

Crum: On the right side of the bubble is none.

Donald Glenn: Hmm.

Crum: Uh, Um, then they have a few on the wrong side of the bubble duke pitt virginia virginia tech wake forest

Donald Glenn: And they have a few on the wrong side of the bubble. Duke, Pitt, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest. Get the playoff for today.

Crum: If the playoff were today.

Donald Glenn: in the Big 12.

Crum: in the Big 12. or

Donald Glenn: that predicting Brigham Young

Crum: predicting Brigham Young.

Donald Glenn: Hmm.

Crum: Hmm.

Donald Glenn: right side of the bubble none the wrong side of the bubble they have utah texas tech and cincinnati

Crum: uh right side of the bubble none wrong side of the bubble they have utah texas tech and cincinnati I'm kind of the the hanging around.

Donald Glenn: They're hanging around. They got Oklahoma State and Houston in that group.

Crum: They got Oklahoma State and Houston in that group.

Donald Glenn: Hmm.

Crum: um as For the Big Ten, Ohio State and Indiana, they have N.

Donald Glenn: For the Big Ten, Ohio State and Indiana, they have N. the right side of the bubble none the wrong side of the bubble oregon iowa nebraska and ucla

Crum: The right side of the bubble, none. The wrong side of the bubble, Oregon, Iowa, and Nebraska, and UCLA.

Donald Glenn: hanging around USC, Penn State, Michigan.

Crum: hanging around USC, Penn State, Michigan. Uh,

Donald Glenn: They got Illinois out along with Maryland, Michigan State for doing Rutgers.

Crum: They got Illinois out along with Maryland, Michigan State for doing Rutgers.

Donald Glenn: And at the playoffs for today, for the SEC, they've got...

Crum: And at the playoffs for today, for the SEC, they've got...

Donald Glenn: Sixteen.

Crum: Six teams in. Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss and LSU with

Donald Glenn: Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss, and LSU. with

Crum: Uh... lsu or know On the right side of the bubble, Ole Miss and LSU.

Donald Glenn: lsu or On the right side of the bubble, Ole Miss and LSU. Mississippi State.

Crum: Mississippi State.

Donald Glenn: Hanging around.

Crum: hanging around. And then the independent would be Notre Dame.

Donald Glenn: And then the independent would be Notre Dame. in the spotlight for the group of six is Boise State.

Crum: and the spotlight for the group of six is Boise State.

Donald Glenn: Hmm.

Crum: Hmm. Um,

Donald Glenn: And they so that rider's from Tuscaloosa, right?

Crum: And they have James. Could be.

Donald Glenn: did

Donald Glenn: Whoever wrote that. say he's right- hand man ze

Crum: Stanky's right -hand man in the southeast. Commissioner's office.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, there you go.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: There you what i found interesting and i'm not gonna go.

Crum: Another one I found interesting, and I'm not going to go them all. This is just for us.

Donald Glenn: Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Crum: Out of the 68.

Donald Glenn: out of the 68

Crum: ah power of four conferences, 68 quarterbacks.

Donald Glenn: power of four conferences, 68 quarterbacks. Kate Nauser comes in number 16.

Crum: Caden Houser comes in number 16.

Donald Glenn: Oh, okay.

Crum: Okay. So... but that's an interesting note.

Donald Glenn: that's That's an interesting note. Yeah, I kind of like what what Kate Hauser's done so far at Illinois.

Crum: Yeah, I do like wood. came out of your stone so hard in your life. no

Donald Glenn: um You know, he's.

Crum: You know how you use it. the yeah If they could get a defense to help him get some turnovers and and and get the ball back a little more.

Donald Glenn: he's If they could get a defense to help him get some turnovers and yeah did get the ball back a little more. i mean they

Crum: i mean they need you know

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Had a pretty good game.

Donald Glenn: Pretty good game. He missed a throw at Ohio State.

Crum: He missed a throw at Ohio State where we.

Donald Glenn: where we

Crum: Had a touchdown instead of a field goalie.

Donald Glenn: Had a touchdown instead of a field goalie. missed i think tremble over the middle of the game

Crum: Missed, I think, Trimble over the medal at the goal line. and Well, hey, and that's a good one.

Donald Glenn: Well, and and that's a couple that's a that's thing couple of a couple of players that I'm kind of interested in.

Crum: a couple couple of players that I'm kind of used to dead.

Donald Glenn: focusing, not focusing on, but using.

Crum: focused or not focused on, but use it. uh number one

Donald Glenn: Trimble, number one.

Crum: uh anderson never date in enough our State.

Donald Glenn: Anderson had a pretty good game at Ohio State. Um... you know a couple good runs there uh that barnett barnett uh is showing that he could i mean you know

Crum: Yeah. uh that 22 yard run yeah our net uh is showing that we can i mean you know Good.

Donald Glenn: Could the running game finally be at a point now where it's equal to the passing game?

Crum: A running game will finally be at a point now where it's equal to the passing game because you had a lot of players at 100 yards against Ohio State.

Donald Glenn: Because you had Loffrey at 100 yards against Ohio State.

Crum: yep at over 100.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah, I mean, I think the offense is in a...

Donald Glenn: I mean, I think the ah offense is in a...

Crum: Pretty good shape.

Donald Glenn: Pretty nice spot.

Crum: but You know, Flunny just keeps...

Donald Glenn: you know if flonnie just keeps

Crum: You know the pedal of the metal.

Donald Glenn: battleddle the metal Yeah.

Crum: Yeah um I don't know.

Donald Glenn: And I think it's always been the case with Illinois. They get ahead and then, okay, we'll coast.

Crum: It will coast. Yeah. But you've got to get some help from the defense.

Donald Glenn: And then they ended up there. Oh yeah, you really do.

Crum: You know you can't. you know um

Donald Glenn: You can't just keep trying to outscore the other team.

Crum: You can't just keep trying to outscore the other team.

Donald Glenn: yeah Do you you think they're going to stay with the 3 -3 -5 set, or are they going to move it around?

Crum: I think they're going to stay with trees.

Donald Glenn: I think they've got them.

Crum: I think they've got him. At least move it a little bit.

Donald Glenn: at least move a little bit

Crum: I mean, I don't know how much. you know, they put in in a week.

Donald Glenn: know they put in in a week But I think the players have probably been around.

Crum: but I think the players have probably been around. enough and they can they can do something like like the guys have been

Donald Glenn: Well, some of these guys, you know, like like the guys that have been around for a couple years, Barna.

Crum: years are

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: Kurt or Kruitz

Crum: groups. you know a couple of those guys

Donald Glenn: you know a couple of those guys. they'll be able to adjust back to whatever they want to go to it's the guys coming in

Crum: they'll be able to adjust back to whatever they want to go to It's the guys coming in.

Donald Glenn: Where did they come from?

Crum: Word of God. Coming from what was the city?

Donald Glenn: What was those system? Can we do something that.

Crum: Can we do something different? See me.

Donald Glenn: they may be familiar with.

Crum: Mayor. Yeah. yeah

Donald Glenn: you know That'd be interesting.

Crum: Yeah, it'll be interesting.

Donald Glenn: we'll see we'll have to see

Crum: We'll see see. I bet they have 11 players on defense each time down

Donald Glenn: I bet they have 11 players on defense. Yes, they have 11 players on the field. And like you said, it's a good couple of games to get this defense rewritten.

Crum: It's a good double game to get to get this defense rewritten. Going to get.

Donald Glenn: going against Purdue, going against Michigan State.

Crum: green building it Michigan State.

Donald Glenn: You know, you're not you're not facing the big boys, and then you've got a week off between that and Oregon.

Crum: You know, you're not, you're not facing the big boys. Then you got a week off between that.

Donald Glenn: You know, hopefully by that Oregon game, they'll be back to, like you said, they'll be back in the situation where they're bowl contention.

Crum: Hopefully by that Oregon game, they'll be back you said we' me back in situation where they're bold. contention

Donald Glenn: uh for sure

Crum: For sure. yeah you know they wouldn be both health obviously right

Donald Glenn: You know, they won't be bowl eligible, obviously, but they'll be in bowl contention for sure.

Crum: yeah

Donald Glenn: So.

Crum: And then we got the...

Donald Glenn: then we got the The hot seats.

Crum: The hot seats. Damn, the hot seat.

Donald Glenn: okay The hot seat. this Brought to you by Frank's Red Hot.

Crum: So this I... brought you like Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: um So...

Donald Glenn: So... That was...

Crum: Well, it was CBS this week.

Donald Glenn: CBS this week, Sports Illustrated.

Crum: Is that a Sports Illustrated?

Donald Glenn: I didn't agree with a couple of Sports Illustrated.

Crum: I didn't agree with a couple on Sports Illustrated.

Donald Glenn: and

Crum: and

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: Um,

Donald Glenn: I thought the CBS was a little more fair, so...

Crum: i thought the cbs is was a little more fair so Leading off on the hot seats ah

Donald Glenn: Leading off on the hot seats. of Mr.

Crum: Mr.

Donald Glenn: Mike Norvell, Florida State

Crum: Mike Norvell, Florida State.

Donald Glenn: He's been here since week one.

Crum: He's been there since week one.

Donald Glenn: and

Crum: and

Donald Glenn: They have Virginia this week.

Crum: They have Virginia this week. Um,

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: So... And that was one of our other comments from our from our YouTube crowd.

Crum: and that was one of our other comments from our audience i'm proud

Donald Glenn: They they agree.

Crum: free no No more, more.

Donald Glenn: novo Novo is horrible. well

Crum: Well...

Donald Glenn: He's 2 -2, and they have Virginia this week.

Crum: He's 2 -2, and they have Virginia this week.

Donald Glenn: Man.

Crum: And... You know, they're saying he needs to be in the seven -win range, but he still has games against Louisville, Miami, and Florida.

Donald Glenn: You know, they're saying he needs to be in the seven -win range, but he still has games against Louisville, Miami, and Florida.

Crum: Yeah, so that it will be tough sledding.

Donald Glenn: so Ouch. will be tough slept forty six point seven million dollars buyout

Crum: $46 .7 million dollars buyout.

Donald Glenn: And Mike Locksley.

Crum: And Mike Loxley. And I'm sure his seat's really getting hot after that 54 -3.

Donald Glenn: And I'm sure his seat's really getting hot. it's four three Yeah.

Crum: shellacking at home against the Bruins.

Donald Glenn: shellacing at home against the bruins Oh, yeah.

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: And so...

Crum: And so... Yeah, they're 2 -2.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, they're they two and two. and um

Crum: And, um...

Donald Glenn: They have Nebraska and Ohio State up next.

Crum: They have Nebraska and Ohio State up next.

Donald Glenn: Wow.

Crum: Um...

Donald Glenn: um Loxley is 39 -51 in eight seasons at Maryland.

Crum: Loxley is 39 -51 in eight seasons at Maryland.

Donald Glenn: Okay. and would be owed nearly $10 million if fired.

Crum: and would be owed nearly 10 million if fired.

Donald Glenn: Dave Dorn at NC State yeah kind of went through that last week on that debacle.

Crum: Dave Dorn at NC State. We kind of went through that last week on that debacle. it

Donald Glenn: at ending at uh

Crum: ending at uh

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Vanderbilt

Crum: Vanderbilt. um

Donald Glenn: um

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: So... We'll see how that shakes out.

Crum: We'll see how that shakes out.

Donald Glenn: It's been their 14th season.

Crum: He's been there 14 seasons and has done pretty good.

Donald Glenn: It's done pretty good. but

Crum: but

Donald Glenn: it doesn't take much to go from the

Crum: It doesn't take much to go from the...

Donald Glenn: In -house to the out -house.

Crum: Penthouse the outhouse these days. Not up these days.

Donald Glenn: Not these days.

Crum: And our friend Greg Shano of Rutgers.

Donald Glenn: And a great shot over Rutgers.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: all right

Crum: um So...

Donald Glenn: so

Crum: I mean, you gotta think through that first.

Donald Glenn: I mean, you got you got to think that Shanova Rutgers, he's...

Crum: Yeah, he won seven games in back -to -back years in 22 -23.

Donald Glenn: Yeah, he won seven games in back -to -back years in 22 -23, but...

Crum: He's coming off a 5 -7 season.

Donald Glenn: He's coming off a 5 -7 season. He's 1 -3, including the losses for UMass and Boston College.

Crum: He's 1 -3, including the losses to UMass and Boston College.

Donald Glenn: and so I think they sit with him the rest of the year, but if he doesn't at least match last year.

Crum: and so i think he's within the rest of the year but if he doesn't he doesn' at least math last year

Donald Glenn: you know then I think he's a good chance he's gone.

Crum: you know they'll think he's a good chance he's gone

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah. Shane Beamer, South Carolina.

Donald Glenn: shane beemer south carolina Really?

Crum: His next two games are...

Donald Glenn: his next two games are 24 Kentucky.

Crum: 24 Kentucky.

Donald Glenn: this week and then at number eight florida

Crum: this week and then at number eight, Florida.

Donald Glenn: Well, Kentucky.

Crum: i you know

Donald Glenn: Amen. ken That's another team that's been a big surprise this year has been Kentucky.

Crum: Let's go. surprises you

Donald Glenn: Um,

Crum: They won some big games.

Donald Glenn: They've won some big games that they shouldn't have won.

Crum: They should have won. They played very good football.

Donald Glenn: They've played very good football.

Crum: all Yeah, they won at Texas A and &M, but then kind of got blown out by Alabama.

Donald Glenn: one at Texas A &M.

Donald Glenn: Right.

Crum: right and So yeah, we'll see how that goes yeah

Donald Glenn: so yeah we'll see how that goes yeah

Crum: um

Donald Glenn: um Lincoln Riley, USC.

Crum: Lincoln Riley, USC. Well...

Donald Glenn: Well, especially after, yeah, after that game last week.

Crum: Especially after... Yeah, after that game last week.

Donald Glenn: it he you know

Crum: and he did you know That's a game.

Donald Glenn: That's a game again, and I hate to harp on stuff like that, but that's a game again where.

Crum: that's a game

Donald Glenn: you have something like that happen you need to make it definitive none of this Well, da yada, yada, yada.

Crum: You have something like that. And none of this, well, you know, he was mad.

Donald Glenn: You need to know he was wrong. This is what's going to happen to him.

Crum: This is what's gonna happen yeah

Donald Glenn: Ta -ta.

Crum: that up.

Donald Glenn: Boom.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And he's like...

Crum: and he's like uh 5 and 15.

Donald Glenn: 5 and 15

Crum: against ranked teams.

Donald Glenn: against ranked teams. I heard that.

Crum: And when he came from Oklahoma, they were expecting.

Donald Glenn: and when he came from oklahoma they were expecting They're expecting big things.

Crum: There's top five, top ten, and then...

Donald Glenn: Yeah. playing for the

Crum: playing for the

Donald Glenn: you know, CFB, the national championships and things.

Crum: you know cfp the national championships and things and and

Donald Glenn: and and They haven't even been close to that.

Crum: They haven't even been close to that.

Donald Glenn: and Do you think if he had stayed in Oklahoma?

Crum: And... you think he's needed

Donald Glenn: He had it going.

Crum: He had it going. with they with these But they were just starting to go from the Big 12 to the SEC.

Donald Glenn: Would they be doing anything? They were just starting to go from the Big 12 to the SEC. That was going to be important. Do you think SEC would have been better for him to stay in being with Oklahoma, or did he make a mistake going out west?

Crum: or do you

Crum: It hasn't been too good for him out west.

Donald Glenn: It hasn't been too good for him out west. No, it hasn't.

Crum: At least on the football field, maybe the lifestyle, I don't know.

Donald Glenn: At least on the football field. on the foot lifestyle Yeah, well, i could yeah we don't know about that.

Crum: is matter I don't know. Let's go. And he has a...

Donald Glenn: And he has... let's see

Crum: Let's see.

Donald Glenn: A $70 million dollars buyout.

Crum: The $70 million dollars buyout.

Donald Glenn: Ouch.

Crum: to dump him.

Donald Glenn: ouch

Crum: Coach.

Donald Glenn: But...

Crum: But...

Donald Glenn: So, in other situations, keep an eye on Deion Sanders, Colorado, Fran Brown of Syracuse, and Sonny Dykes of TCU.

Crum: So, and then other situations, keep an eye on Deion Sanders, Colorado, Fran Brown of Syracuse, and Sonny Dykes of TC. Ew. So.

Donald Glenn: Hmm. Okay.

Crum: Okay. Anyway, so yeah, it's kind of...

Donald Glenn: You know what I say? Yeah, that's kind of...

Crum: what we got.

Donald Glenn: What we got.

Crum: um At least in what I got.

Donald Glenn: least one i got As they say, it is what it is. Yeah.

Crum: Yep. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: Yeah. And, you know, there's always going to be a firing or two that we don't know about.

Crum: And you know, there's always going to be a fight that we don't know about.

Donald Glenn: and You know, because like I've said before many times, you know, we can't cover every conference, every team.

Crum: like i' stood before any kind You know, the weekend every team.

Donald Glenn: There's 136 FBS teams.

Crum: There's 136 FPS cleanups. um Because last year I tried to do my own top 25.

Donald Glenn: um Because last year I tried to do my own top 25 and I'm like, I...

Crum: Yeah. it takes a lot of time yeah that takes a lot of time

Donald Glenn: I gave up. on Yeah, that takes a lot of time. Um... because I don't want to get on there.

Crum: and you don't want to get on there and just go over and over and people kind of tune out as it gets

Donald Glenn: and people kind of... redone that are right so and we hope you guys like this show um I mean we want to keep it going.

Crum: redundant or boring and so we hope you guys like the show uh We want to keep it going. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And, you know, so.

Crum: Do that by letting us know you're listening.

Donald Glenn: Do that by letting us know you're listening. Give us the follows on YouTube, on Spotify.

Crum: Now give us the pause. what fun on that

Donald Glenn: um

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Crum: it i gotta

Donald Glenn: Here's to get some reaction.

Crum: Here's the reaction.

Donald Glenn: I got a poll for you guys.

Crum: I got a phone. you guys. It is.

Donald Glenn: It has been suggested I won't say by who.

Crum: and suggest... I won't say if I do.

Donald Glenn: But it has been suggested.

Crum: But it has been suggested.

Donald Glenn: That.

Crum: That.

Donald Glenn: We kind of chew a name change on the show.

Crum: we kind of Things on the show.

Donald Glenn: And we taught it we call it.

Crum: And we hope. Coffee sports are unbeknownst to me.

Donald Glenn: Talking sports with Uncle Don and the Crumster.

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Crum: What a monster!

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Crum: some other democracy.

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Crum: Somewhat.

Donald Glenn: somewhat somewhat your show Still my show.

Crum: I feel your show. myself

Donald Glenn: uh like mr barry class gets uh

Crum: Kind of like Mr. Berry, where the class gets... ah

Donald Glenn: both but hit's thirty five But he gets votes.

Crum: votes but he gets 35 votes Yeah. yeah

Donald Glenn: Yeah. He always got one more than the class did.

Crum: you know We'll be right back. Yeah.

Donald Glenn: yeah you know of <unk> Shout out to Mr.

Crum: Let's go.

Donald Glenn: Barrett, our old high school basketball coach.

Crum: is matthew welcomeco History teacher.

Donald Glenn: History teacher. history teacher beth

Crum: The best.

Donald Glenn: Yeah.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: um Shout out to him.

Crum: Shout out to him.

Donald Glenn: And, you know, shout out to Homer High School.

Crum: Yeah. I love you. i't

Donald Glenn: You know, we do that every once in a while.

Crum: you know we do that once in a while we'll say that because

Donald Glenn: We'll say that. because you know.

Crum: you know

Donald Glenn: That's where we grew up.

Crum: That's where we grew grew up.

Donald Glenn: That's where we we...

Crum: Please. Guess what?

Donald Glenn: that's where our friends are we talk about jamie and mark and stan we grew up with those guys um and we always talk sports this is what we love we love talking sports

Crum: We talked about Jamie, Mark, and Stan. We grew up with those guys. Yep. And we always talk sports. This is what we love. We love talking sports.

Donald Glenn: You know, I don't know how many times Gary and I have sat at a.

Crum: You know, we're having a very nice Canada. with a watering bowl or...

Donald Glenn: local watering hole or

Crum: That, uh, pick -pick something.

Donald Glenn: at a picnic or something. And, you know, two hours later, we're still talking about whatever baseball or football game was going on that week.

Crum: you know Two hours later, we're still talking about whatever baseball or football game was going on that week. Yep, yeah. yeah

Donald Glenn: Well.

Crum: It really might be.

Donald Glenn: Anyway, but anyway, we do appreciate you guys listening, and tuning in.

Crum: and There it is.

Donald Glenn: Uh, even if it is after the fact on the recording.

Crum: Even if it is after the fact when you're recording. um

Donald Glenn: Um... So.

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: Uh, I don't think.

Crum: And I don't think, I think he didn't mean to interrupt.

Donald Glenn: I think. Go ahead.

Crum: Okay, I did mean to interrupt.

Donald Glenn: Okay, I did read that. Yes.

Crum: yeah um

Donald Glenn: um I think you said because you have a very important.

Crum: I think you said because you have a very important event coming up that we won't be doing.

Donald Glenn: Yes. We we might not be we might not be on next week.

Crum: next might like da to week go go see how how things play out but

Donald Glenn: I'm going to see how the... how things play out, but... My youngest daughter is getting married on October 10th, which is a Saturday.

Crum: My youngest daughter is getting married in August. October 10th which is a Saturday.

Donald Glenn: So.

Crum: So.

Donald Glenn: um we normally record this on a wednesday so we we still might record it just depends on how that week is going we'll know more probably i'll know more and And I'll probably try and put a couple blurbs out or reels out if were if we are or not are not.

Crum: We don't even pull this one. So we still might. It just depends on how that week is going. well no more of it in park And I'll probably come back. a couple of words out of real time. We are. and then I'll party on.

Donald Glenn: So pay attention to Facebook.

Crum: Okay. Facebook.

Donald Glenn: Um...

Crum: one.

Donald Glenn: But, yeah, we might might not be here next week.

Crum: But, yeah, we might might not be able to.

Donald Glenn: Uh... So...

Crum: So...

Donald Glenn: You know, I toyed with the idea of going into and doing some week five games or week six games just to be on the safe side.

Crum: You know, I toyed with that. We were doing some week five, eight week six games. just to be on the safe side but i think we'll hold off and we'll just if we don't you don't have much

Donald Glenn: But I think we'll hold off and we'll just if if we don't if we don't not here next week, you just don't get any predictions.

Crum: you just don't care Okay.

Donald Glenn: But we'll definitely cover everything.

Crum: But we'll definitely cover everything. um We can come back.

Donald Glenn: when we um when we do come back. And so we'll see well how that goes.

Crum: And... So we'll see how that goes.

Donald Glenn: So I think that's going to do it for us tonight, unless you got anything else going.

Crum: So I think that's going to do it for us tonight, unless you've got anything else going on. No, I'm good.

Donald Glenn: All right.

Crum: all right problem

Donald Glenn: So don't forget to check out Gateway Sports for more podcasts.

Crum: Check out Davey's Course for more podcasts, two for three, with the mighty Lewis Michaels.

Donald Glenn: The two for three with the mighty Moose Michaels team of rivals of Ron Nuttall, Pete Geddes and Elliot Dewey.

Crum: Team of Rivals, Rondo, Pete Dennis, and Elliot Dewey.

Donald Glenn: They talk Cardinals and Cubs baseball and Hollywood, if you can figure that in the same in the same sentence.

Crum: They taught Cardinals and baseball in Hollywood. do You can figure that in the same in the same sentence. Uh, well.

Donald Glenn: Ron also teams up with Chris Hamilton for At the Park, all about city soccer.

Crum: He's up with Chris Hamilton. What about the city stockroom? The students worked on it, right as well, with Tim Van Spretten.

Donald Glenn: The stupidest sports show on earth with Rodney Capel and Tim Van Stratton. And I tell you what, I told you guys before, they have too much fun.

Crum: And I tell you what, I told you guys before, they have too much fun.

Donald Glenn: They do have too much fun for that show.

Crum: They do have too much fun for that show.

Donald Glenn: Give it a listen.

Crum: Give it a listen. Then there's also my other show, which is the...

Donald Glenn: Then there's also my other show, the... in so the um Talking sports with Uncle Don.

Crum: Talking Sports with Uncle Don.

Donald Glenn: Bye.

Crum: Really long trip.

Donald Glenn: Reading the wrong script.

Crum: uh You're surprised?

Donald Glenn: ah Yeah. there's a a surprise I know.

Crum: I know.

Donald Glenn: but it's happened before.

Crum: but it's happening And last but not least, there's always a dirt.

Donald Glenn: And last but not least, there's always the Derrick King show with the man himself, Derrick King.

Crum: and a

Donald Glenn: Also check out the articles.

Crum: also check out the There's a photo film section on high school football.

Donald Glenn: There's a photojournalism section on high school football.

Crum: Yeah.

Donald Glenn: And... Anything that goes on in the St.

Crum: Anything goes on.

Donald Glenn: Louis bi -state area, you can find it at gatewaycitysports .net.

Crum: you can find in a big mystery store. There's nothing.

Donald Glenn: So, for my partner Gary Cromwell, this is your old Uncle Don.

Crum: So, for my part of the evening... This is your old Uncle Tom. And we say have fun, stay safe.

Donald Glenn: And we're going to say, have fun, stay safe. We'll see you again next week.

Crum: We'll see you next week.

Donald Glenn: Well, or two weeks, depending on which out goes.

Crum: Well, what do we do? out of those

Donald Glenn: On the NCAA Report with...

Crum: on the NCAA Tour with Uncle Don and...

Donald Glenn: Uncle Don and... To be named later.

Crum: To be deemed later. Have a good week everybody.

Donald Glenn: Good week, everybody. See you next time.

Crum: See you next time.

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