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Episode 2 - We Get Real BLERDY
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In this week's episode we will be discussing the correlations between ninjas and Anime, Todays Samples in Music and if it's becoming an issue, along with this years All Star Weekend/Women's Basketball heating up... An episode of HoBS you definitely don't want to miss.
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Transcript
Daylight Savings and Weather Impacts
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Yeah, this sounds good.
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Y'all back on the BS got my boy juice sold got my boy step curry and then a couple boys a prayer No, see and of course yours truly gentlemen Jack and so I just want to say first on how y'all doing? Uh and everything man. Everything's going good with y'all Man, I'm tired, bro. That's spring forward. Uh Whatever change on the weekend. I don't know. Why do we do that? Have no idea. I feel like I'm tired. I'm more tired now than I was before I
00:01:07
Speaker
We got the warm weather is this stuff, man? So we good, man? It feels good outside, yeah? No, it's a little warm, man.
Weather Predictions and Preferences
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Hey man, the groundhog is only right 50% of the time. I actually looked this up. He's only right 50% of the time. I think it's a little bit under 50%, but you know what? He was absolutely right this time. I'm glad he was. Okay, beat that little one. Okay, all he want is for something and give us some warm weather again.
00:01:36
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Hey, Corey's sad, bro. He's like, I want the cold weather back. The Ice King? The Ice King, there we go. Winter is coming. Yeah, that's my real name. It's the Night King. No, I'm starting to sweat again. I don't like it. And also, the allergies. No, I like it when everything is dead. I'm not congested. I don't have to worry about the air quality.
00:02:07
Speaker
I got so upset yesterday. I seen bugs flying around. I'm like, here we go again. It's like that period where they dormant or whatever. I just be so thankful because nothing pisses me off more than seeing a random horsefly in your house. The stress of trying to kill that mother. I feel like I turned to John Wick. I got to kill this thing before I lose my mind, bro. I'm just like, man. But one thing about it.
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Whether it's hot or cold, I'm gonna complain about both. Ain't no way around it, man. It's just, it's crazy. That's real.
Locker Room Scents and Basketball Critique
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I can't go out and talk to you. What's good? I hate the winters, bro. I get, I get depressed. I'm like, I don't want to go outside. I don't want to do shit. Don't talk to me. Don't look at me. It's cold. I just want to sleep. That's me.
00:03:00
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Man, winter's great. You can do so many things. People out of your way. Go outside, I can breathe fresh air. I ain't got to worry about funky people running around. Hey, me and Musty in the summer is horrible.
00:03:20
Speaker
But being musty in the winter is like, that's so disrespectful. It's like, how? It's like, how, man? That should be a scene. Like, you go straight to home. Like, one of those. It needs to be a scene to be musty. It's beautiful. It's definitely good. Musty in the cold, though. Like, that should be an automatic one-way ticket to hell. Like, you don't get no room. Bro, do you remember how the locker rooms used to smell?
00:03:48
Speaker
Oh my gosh. You give us PTSD right now. All right bro. Axe body spray. Exactly. I was about to say the Axe body spray. Why? They just used Axe body spray. It's something serious bro. I don't know. I don't know. What made them think that you can, you can put good smells on funk man, but you can't do that bro. That's just disrespectful.
00:04:11
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Alright, we gonna go ahead and get into some of these topics. We got four topics a day, but we gonna go ahead and start with this first one. So this is the first one is over. All-star weekend has become a joke. And what was your favorite part of all-star weekend? So, Supremacy, we'll go ahead and start with you, man. What's your thing? I watched it or I watched part of it. You know, I don't ever watch like the skills challenge or anything like that. I usually watch three-point contest dunk challenge.
00:04:40
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All-Star game against my better judgment each year. And this year it was, it was the same product that has been, it's kind of like 2k, like, you know what you're going to get. You know, it's not going to be any different. You already know what disappointments to expect, but you load it up with like, you know, that hope and that zeal, just like with that wander that it's going to be good and better than what you, what you last remembered it. All-Star weekend was trashed to me. Like I, it wasn't good.
00:05:09
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The game was, there's no point in watching it. The dunk contest. Shout out to Jalen Brown. That was trash. His performance. Ain't no shout out to that man. Ayo. I'ma tell you what, I could not believe he thought it was like the most creative thing to jump over like Kai Sennett who was like,
00:05:31
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I don't know. Five foot something, bro. You got to do a little dab or the glove. Hold on. He thought he could. I said, aw, nah. We can go all the way from Vince Carter. When JB's defense, man, he posted the video of him doing it in the practice, where he did pull off the D Brown, blind, eyes covered, while jumping. That's impressive. Running, jumping, your eyes closed.
00:06:01
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He pulled it off in the practice, so I give him a pass on that one. The floor was slippery. I don't know. Hey, what did A.I. say? We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. This is primetime. All eyes on you. Well, clearly not, because them boys was taking that shit a joke the whole night. And I'm going to tell you what, they was. And a shout out to the young man who won because he really put forth some evidence of everything. Bro, he's like,
00:06:29
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Dude is like what? Something and jumping over a shack, bro. Matt McClung. Yeah. Matt McClung. Yeah, man. McClung. Yeah, bro. You're like our height. Bro. Excuse me. I don't want to put you in the small. The small nigger group. He like my height. He like 5'8", 5'9", so. Yeah, man. He killed it. He did like a lot of interesting and creative dunks, man. So yeah. Shout out to, we honestly, if that's the case, we need to see more G-leaguers in the dunk contest at this, at this point,
00:07:02
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Kind of to build on that, it kind of really well kind of just seeing with the All-Star weekend thing, man. You got players that aren't trying to get themselves injured and they don't have really much to prove. And I think that's kind of where Matt McClellan is like, hey, the G-Ligger trying to still kind of make it. So he's got kind of more of that need to really kind of show off his skills and stuff. And I'd even say, man, if the NBA, I don't know if they can ever get a partnership with them, but if they didn't want people,
00:07:18
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Ain't nobody in the NBA doing nothing.
00:07:31
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or, you know, from the streets, like, man, you probably got some crazy stuff, man. Yeah, get some of them ballers life dudes. Man, yo, yeah. Pull up. Some of the best basketball I've ever seen. I remember seeing, like, Air up there do that 720 dunk just off, like, a fast break. Who's doing that? This is like... And they playing outdoors on concrete. Bro. Like, probably with no health insurance. Like, they don't care. Bro, in the heat. In the heat.
00:08:01
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They don't care. Crazy. They put on the show. What you think, Steph? You ain't saying nothing. What was your thoughts on the All-Star Weekend? If you even watched it, I don't know. Isn't the point just for the photo at the end? For the West Coast and the East Coast photo? Like, isn't that the whole point of the All-Star Weekend? So people could see that and be like, these were the best players at the time. Hey, you got a point, though. You're doing it right. It is a good point. Because the thing is, is that
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At the end of it all, it's just like, they didn't play hard this game. So, hey, I think Steph got a point with that, man. We're just like, all right, these are the best players this year. Come and take a picture. To be honest, the most interesting part of All-Star weekend at my point was the three-point competition Steph Curry was involved in with the NBA.
00:08:55
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The New York Liberty. Yeah, that was tough. Honestly, like she really gave him a run for his money. And like, honestly, I really thought Steph could have lost that night because I don't know. I feel like women's basketball, they always have like great fundamentals anyway. So like I'm interested to see how nature is going to be with like, you know, let's get a Caitlin Clark in the mix and see, you know, if Steph's going to bring in Clay or are you going to bring in Dame Tom? So I think, yeah. Honestly, women's basketball in general,
00:09:23
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I think next year's, uh, Damien Lillard, Kelly Clark, cause he won a different contest. So good.
00:09:31
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the Sabrina Steph like shootout competition was to me better than the actual three point contest that they had. Yeah. And Sabrina, I think she's, she had like a score of 27 or something like that. Yeah. I think she beat Dames like scoring the actual three point contest. So if she was competing that, she would win. Yeah.
00:09:58
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And then she shot with the redwood basketball too, the men's basketball too, right? She was shooting from NBA. True story, man. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I don't know if NBA is shorter, I think.
00:10:16
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I'm not sure, but I'll, I do know that Caitlin Clark, she'd be pulling from the logo. Yes, you do. The line might be shorter. It might be longer. I don't know, but the court is like, you pull in with a logo. That's Steph Curry territory. Oh yeah. She pulling up. She not even, she not said nothing up. She going to be like, Hey, you see that Boeing.
00:10:40
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What about it? Awesome. So for Kaitlyn Clark, I'm not definitely thinking that's why she should be at next year's because she's been breaking both women's NCAA records and then also just recently to the division one overall record too for most of, what was it for most points I think? Most points, yeah. Yeah. And another one here. Pistol Pete. Yeah, yeah. That's saying a lot too because Pistol Pete had a lot of points wise in college and stuff. So that's saying something right there.
00:11:10
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But my young my young gun Juju walking she coming for Then she put up like a crazy stat line like like record points the other night against I would say Stanford Yeah, I want to say low key. It was somewhere in the 50 range when I was taking or close to it. I
00:11:31
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I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look it up because I know she had like crazy numbers the other night. But I know like her freshman year numbers and points is more than Caitlin's was for her freshman year. So she could be on her way to being outscoring what Caitlin got right now. So I mean, I'm interested to see how it's gonna go for her next year. 51. Man, that girl was good. More crazy. Man, looks like a young man more out there.
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Man, the GOAT, shout out to Maya Moore, Minnesota Lynx, man. She was really, and I'm glad that you mentioned Maya Moore because people were kind of acting like women's basketball is just starting to pop, you know, with the Las Vegas Aces and Park and Reese and the whole LSU squad. But women's basketball has some bangers for
Nostalgia and Diet Banter
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a minute, like,
00:12:29
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Oh, for sure. Like Maya Moore, really, if she kept playing, she might have went down as like the girl. I kind of want to keep her in her own lane. I hate being like she would have been the Jordan of the WNBA. But I feel like she would have had that same stature if she kept playing. Like I remember just seeing one of her clips on like YouTube or something. I didn't even follow the Minnesota Lynx for real. But I just saw her and I was like, she cold like pulling these tough jump shots is
00:12:59
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crazy. So I don't know. What do y'all think? I feel like women's basketball, just in general, is a lot more exciting than men's basketball right now. Man, hell nah. The man's basketball? No, I mean, come on, bro. I mean, not even the objective numbers prove that out. I mean, just look at the viewership. It is what it is on that one. What you mean, the viewership?
00:13:24
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Well, compare women's basketball viewership to the NBA viewership, like the finals. Is it the same? Well, compare women's NCAA viewership this year to men's. Yeah, I watch college. It's not like college either. I like college either. So I'm staying consistent on that one. College is shit. I might as well be watching anything else. Nah, bro. No, man. Women's college basketball is actually crazy.
00:13:55
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Right. They actually hoop it. You know how like good you got to be to like cross somebody up and then hit like a flawless like three pointer? That's what we were here like our like NBA players today, but like women are just doing this like off the rip. What was the last NBA game you watched?
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the finals this nigga talk you right you can edit this out but do i sound better like this or do i sound better like this oh but i'm close okay i'll do this then we keeping it in here i ain't got time to edit right at that point it's cool we do yours but hey man i got a job just like your
00:14:46
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But no, back to your point, Corey, bro. Women have been killing it in the WNBA for a long time. Just thinking back, Lisa Leslie, I think she was one of the first women to dunk in the WNBA. But she put her crazy number with the L.A. Sparks and everything. And then one of my favorite, just because she wasn't just beautiful, she was really cooking people, scholar diggers. I didn't even say scholar diggers. I already knew.
00:15:16
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Nobody like her man. She uh, yeah, she was cooking for sure. My boy is watching intently I'm just trying to see if she's on the court She was low magic boy boy julie's with the crowd boy like man what?
00:15:37
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You want to care you were still on still on the sidelines. I'll stand on it. I feel like it really is more exciting than that means right now. I mean the big one I'll say like the talent. You got Kaitlyn Clark pulling from the same distance that Steph Curry is. You can't tell me that's not exciting.
00:16:08
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And then just like the passion, like I don't watch a whole lot, like a lot of men's college basketball, but NBA, just like people check out like frequently. Like you watch some of these games and you can tell like these dudes are just trying to make it to the next game. They heart's not really in it. They're just going through the motions and they super talented, but just like the other night, you know,
00:16:34
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the LSU fight with North Carolina. Yeah. With North Carolina, like they, they really be active. Like they'd be invested in the game. I don't know. It's exciting to see like that kind of passion and just like intensity that was matches. Got to step up for a quick second, fellas. Okay. Jesus. Five minutes. He'll be back.
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Hey, is the mic really better like this or was it better? Like, I don't really want to hold it right here the entire time. Bro, just hold it down, y'all. All right. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. You're holding like a burrito. What was that movie where you couldn't, you couldn't make a sound? Like, what was it? Oh, but the other one. Oh, okay. I thought that's what she was talking about.
00:17:29
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I don't know where I was going a quiet place. Yeah, we're just like frozen like you stuck you can't move No, I'm trash. I feel like I wouldn't even be able to like live cuz like I would try to be quiet But then like my body will like hate on me and I'll end up like birkin or something. I'll be like It'll be it'll be it'll be like one of the informality is like and then I didn't go hold you I will fart. All right, you'll be old. It'll be a rat. I
00:18:00
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Hey, if we were next, if we were next together, bro, I would definitely, I would definitely want to make it. Cause like, Hey, I would be pissed. I would be like, Oh man, this is missing. This ain't it. Hey, that's like the time we stayed at the cabinet Arkansas, bro. Oh boy. Oh man.
00:18:24
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We got to talk about that. We got to make it. We got to run that back. We got to make a trip, bro. For real. We do. Another camping trip. Yeah. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for sure. Are we waiting for Jack to get back to the topic? I mean, we can keep chopping it up. Yeah. So you guys asked how I feel today.
00:18:46
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I'm gonna be honest, usually I'm at a caloric deficit because I'm just busy doing other shit, but I've been driving for eight hours a day just eating. I've consumed at least 3000 calories. I feel fantastic. That's great, bro.
00:19:02
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You have like a really bright vocabulary. Right. To use caloric deficit, like just in casual conversation is like fantastic. That's how you know we went to linking. Right. It's just like, all right. How was he described that? No, like that's how you that's
00:19:24
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Perfect to tell how you describe it. I'm just saying, our peers would not have that range. Yeah, just like you guys did not eat enough today. I'm hungry. Yeah. I'm tired. I need to eat something so I can feel better. Steph said, I typically feel lethargic. But today, I mean, I feel great and brimming with energy. I feel great, guys. I love that. OK. Where's this nigga Jared at, bro? He got to go a little bit of a tempering.
00:19:57
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I don't really care too much about it either way. Like I think women's basketball can be just as exciting as men's basketball. I'm not like trying to be sexist about it, but it's just like right now I'm just being truthfully honest. It's just not like if you compare the skill level between the NBA Finals last year and any game and the WNBA this year is just not the same. Yeah, and that's just me speaking facts. Well, that could that could be true in the case, but I don't think viewership necessarily can
00:20:20
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because I did want to add to the topic.
00:20:26
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dictate whether or not a matchup is more exciting than another matchup, just specifically for gender relations. I don't know. Because looking like bubble basketball, you know what I'm saying? It was a straight basketball where dudes was just hoping. They had fans on a computer screen.
00:20:50
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There was an exciting aspect to it, but like, in all reality, like... Nobody was watching you for a through. Yeah, like you had to be like LeBron fan or like a Heat fan at that point just watching it. And I don't know if I see, if I see somebody look, you get sauce, you get sauce though. I asked what kind of basketball, I like, I like, I like aggressive, passionate, just, I'm going to take you to the, I'm going to take you to the rim every time and challenge it. So yeah, I don't, I don't think,
00:21:21
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The NBA or the WNBA has a hold on whether or not it can be more exciting than that though. I disagree. Not what you drew. I feel like the WNBA finals, watching the Vegas Aces win last summer to me was just as exciting as watching the Nuggets.
00:21:46
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from a basketball perspective because of the schemes that they were running and just like the talent, like Asia Wilson is like cold, like watch her play, like killing it. I don't know. So I feel like the problem really is not a lot of people watch like WNBA games or like follow a team. And I think that's like,
00:22:12
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I think the product, I don't think the product is bad. I think the, the marketing and like the attention that consumers have for like the WNBA in particular is bad. And like the NBA is like the parent organization hasn't done like an effective job or like really like marketing the product because
00:22:32
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It's a lot of good basketball being played. And I don't even think it's a skill deficit. The only skill I can think of that the women lack is they don't dunk. But dunking is cool, but it's not even 20% of the game, to be honest. Because in all actuality, that's the most exciting part about NBA. I just don't
Music Sampling Debate
00:22:50
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know where that is coming from.
00:22:54
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Like, I don't know. It's just for me, I don't really, I don't get into the X's and O's of it. Maybe if you are like a real scheme head and you just draw it up on your whiteboard every day to try to see what schemes are being run, like maybe the WNBA is more exciting, I don't know. But like from a skill perspective, I don't think anybody who knows basketball is gonna be like, the WNBA is just as skilled as NBA. It's like, really? Like based off of what?
00:23:21
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Based off of facts, what? Take dunking out of the equation. What is it that the men do that the women don't do? Yeah. You got women pull it from the logo now, like Dave and Steph. Most men don't do that in NBA. Thanks. You got blocks. Cameron Brinks, I think for Stanford, is breaking crazy records with blocks in games.
00:23:49
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I guess what skills do you see that are not translating? Well, I mean, I don't really want to get into a huge argument about it because like I said, I don't really care about it either way, to be perfectly honest. If you say the WNBA is more skilled, then I'll go with that. I mean, you watch more basketball than I do.
00:24:09
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From what I know. You reckon the case? Yeah, I'm not saying it's more skilled. I'm just saying that it's just as skilled. Because for both, you have to have people that either come from the basketball organization. So they either have to come from a college or play for a nationally recognized team of some sort. You have to have a certain skill level to get drafted or picked up by a college. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to argue that they aren't skilled. Of course, they're skilled. But I don't think they're as skilled as the NBA team.
00:24:38
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Just be honest, you can take the best WNBA team and put it up against the Detroit Pistons. I think they get smoked. Isn't that contradictory though? Like you have to have a kind of certain level of skill to like be better than the NBA team. What do you mean? You're saying like a WNBA team can go up against like the, like the Detroit Pistons and like cool. No, I'm saying that reverse. He's saying bro, you smoking crack, bro.
00:25:06
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All right. If you think that a WNBA team, the Detroit Pistons at this point right now, you might be tweaking my dude. The Vegas Aces, they would smoke them boys. I disagree. This ain't Malice and the Palace no more. They don't got that same team, bro.
00:25:35
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Wizards is kind of taking a plays a little bit. All right. Well, let's go against okay the the Nuggets against the best WNBA team But see that's changing the goalpost though. Yeah, how's that changing the goal? Question at the point it's like size like you have players that are on average like our high well athleticism is a part of basketball. I
00:25:57
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Yeah, but what team have you ever had full of like fucking monkey bogs and Isaiah Thomas is playing against like six six niggas on average like that's the game though. That's the game. That's why only certain amount of people make it to the NBA. That's never been like what are we talking about? I'm saying you can't you can't be like what about this WNBA team against this NBA team and that's the skill comparison because like
00:26:21
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You're talking about yokage. That n***a's like seven feet tall, 300 pounds. Athleticism is a part of basketball. That's not athletic. It is a part of basketball. Fat n***a. It's a part of it. Okay, then. All right. So we're going to go ahead and move on to our next topic. I think we think we definitely hit our own. Jack, you didn't say shit. Yeah, what's your take on it? Yeah. We're all about the BS.
00:26:50
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So for me in relation to this, I do from, so I'm not gonna pretend like I am an expert on the WNBA or women's college basketball. I have become a little bit more of a watcher of it more so recently. And I will say they do have, some of those girls out there do have skills in my opinion. So for me, I think it's a good thing that both the women's college basketball and then also the WNBA
00:27:20
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I think I agree with Corey on this point where they, it's a marketability thing because I do think that they have skilled players in both the college basketball and in the WNBA. So I think the marketability, it can help a lot more. Cause when I think about a good person to, you know, think on average, like with NBA commercials versus what you see with WNBA commercials, you know, you'll see like
00:27:46
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probably seven NBA commercials, like compared to the one WNBA commercial, like in comparison. Unless like, of course, maybe this might differ if you have one of their teams in your town, maybe you might have more of a marketability in that sense. But I think as far as
00:28:05
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what it is now compared to what it was beforehand. Yeah, the marketability has definitely increased, but I think that's based off to the, uh, the skills of the players that we have now. We have Kayla Karts, we have Sabrina INS use.
00:28:18
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We have Angel Reese's, you know, we, we have more of these players that, that can kind of help with that marketability in a sense. So, um,
Marvel vs. DC Cinematic Universes
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and it's kind of a shame because, you know, we, we did have great players like Maya Moore, Candace Parker, like of the past where they were really good too. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just like, but the, the marketability just wasn't there. And as far as like, you know, as far as like comparing the skills between the,
00:28:46
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NBA and the WNBA. Um, I don't know. Like, cause the thing is like, you know, there's always going to be that thing of biology in a sense, you know, where, you know, men are going to kind of have more of a muscle mass that they have versus a woman. But I think as far as like the exciting stuff that we consider movie wise basketball, not like the shooting basketball schemes and stuff like that, it's pretty much similar. Um, you know, you might, you might have, you know, some more,
00:29:14
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great shooters that you think of in the NBA, admittedly, such as Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Reggie Miller, you know, people of the past as well. But I think now where we have where you have these more skill players that are marketed more, you'll be able to have a bit more appreciation for that in the WNBA and in the college as well. So that's my take. I think the marketability, as Supremacy mentioned, is a really good point.
00:29:42
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And I think if maybe with that, it might get people to kind of watch a little bit more and appreciate more of the skills that are placed, you know, that are on the stage at that point. But, yeah. You got to watch college.
00:30:04
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I do like the college basketball. They turn it up, bro. From a basketball pure standpoint for women's basketball, I think I find it a little more interesting than the WNBA. That's just for me personally, but, you know, WNBA, where you have them, some players that are coming out of the women's college and going to the WNBA.
00:30:31
Speaker
I would say WMA might be popping off here the next week. I've seen a, I've seen a show like basketball for a pure standpoint. I, cause they do follow the schemes, but I think NBA in comparison, there's just a couple more things that's a little bit more exciting. I think, and I think, I think it's just the player. I think that's what it is. Well, you definitely got to watch the women's then. Cause I seen a freshman shorty
00:30:56
Speaker
I forget where she was playing for it, but fast break did a 360 layup looking like John Wall back in the day. Oh, I know who you're talking about. I've seen that too. Yeah, I saw that. I ain't seen nothing like that in a minute. Since John Wall. Okay, we're going to go ahead and get to this next topic. The next topic is samples and songs today. Do they hold up to the originals and should it stop altogether?
00:31:25
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We'll start with a Juice Soul, this one, man. That's our music band right there, man. So hey, man, what do you think about some of these samples of the songs today? Do you have a song in mind too, I guess, in relation to that? Yeah, man. So to quote Prince, you know, rest in peace, he was saying, you know, the new songs of today are going to be samples of old songs. And then those songs are going to be samples of those samples. And it's just going to be a whole,
00:31:55
Speaker
Rotation of the sample songs. Honestly, it's getting kind of out of hand. It was it was starting to be a bit tasteful back in the 90s the 2000s, you know people using this and that some of the stuff you don't really even know that it was being sampled but just whatsoever my I Don't know I recently heard a song by this young lady her name is honey, baby and me me being you know, I
00:32:22
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90s R&B aficionado. I feel like I have a lot of respect for the songs that came out there that time She um, she remixed SWVs. I'm so into you and uh She titled she she titled it. I'm fucking him too and like man, I don't know like what came over me, but like I just had to like turn everything off like I turn my phone on my TV and I had to just sit down just like
00:32:50
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wow, is this what music is really coming to? We're like, let me take a pop-in song or a song that had great notoriety and likeability and just make it to that level. I don't know. I think I just, I don't know. I feel like it's distasteful. And I have to say, man, we came all the way from early Kanye, where he was sampling
00:33:16
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through the fire of Shaka Khan and turning into through the wire to talk about his experience, you know, getting the crash and surviving and having wire in his mouth, like really putting like a metaphor investment into the song. And I really feel like if all you're talking about is like having sex with a dude, which I mean, granted, SWB someone to you was like talking about being really into a, into, you know, a dire interest, but like, I don't know. I think it's just getting, I don't know.
00:33:44
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It's losing its, like, luster, I feel like. That's just me. What'd y'all think about it, man? I was going to say, I got boyed up, man. So this is where I get different reasons. It's called, so it's the Pony Revix, so. Man, I'm sorry. Okay, so this is the perfect for me.
00:34:10
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Uh, the original one by JY, that's my magic myself, man. You know, like, I'm good with my dreams. Whoa! That's a big pause. Your magic mic song? I ain't got hands, but ain't good.
00:34:40
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And the thing is, man, that was like, man, they have ruined this thing. They all saw a talk about nothing. They got the lyrics. I was like, hey, they have messed up the song, man. This is supposed to be the song right here. Hold on, you be putting on a little burlesque show? It's not what you asked for about it. It could be showing a little lag. It could be setting the mood. My gosh. It could be setting the mood for Ms. Jack. Got it for Ms. Jack.
00:35:11
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But, but now I'm like, I was thinking like, man, like with this song, like, man, you can't, you can't do no shit like, you can't phone no shit like this for your girl right here. I'm like, man, what is this right here, man? But what's crazy is they be having that, I went all three jails, I'm going to be tripping up here. Oh, nowadays, man, I can't even, they had that all night. I mean, you know, thinking back on it, I don't know, did they have, did they have that, did they have their original on the radio? A lot, yeah, back in the day.
00:35:42
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Yeah back in the 90s. That was a banger. That was a what the what the young folks call a cooker That was one of ones but yeah, I just It's like, you know, of course they they just use the of course the background like, you know course where they got the I don't know what the hell to bring the song if they perfect like You know, whatever the hell it is. Yeah digitize the I know what you're talking about. Yeah, it is like
00:36:09
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The lyrics is just, it's also kind of another thing I noticed too is that the original, like, yeah, even though Kai had a bit of a somewhat cheesy just to it though, it left something for the imagination. All the lyrics now is just like, nah, I want to do all this to you. You want to do that to you. This is like, man, leave it to the imagination a little bit. So that's kind of like we're doing a Magic Mikey.
00:36:30
Speaker
Yeah, man, that's so mean. That's so mean. What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? Ain't got no abs or nothing, but ain't. You got a whole lot of love to give. Whole lot of love to give. There you go. Pause. Pause again. Oh, God. Yo. Man, tell me what you got to say about it, bro. Yeah.
00:36:59
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I feel like I kind of think about it in two ways. There's interpolations in their samples. A lot of today's music, a lot of the pop hits are samples, or not necessarily samples, they're interpolations of old songs. And to me, it kind of kills the creativity. As a listener and as someone who truly enjoys music and drawing those lines,
00:37:27
Speaker
I don't know what it was. I try not to listen to the radio, but Jack Harlow, you know, oh, yeah, play his joints like 24 seven on the radio every time I turn it on. And it's like I can hear these songs and like these interpolations they're doing. And it's just like a bastardization of the original. Like it's not.
00:37:45
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it's not good like what was the what was that that song that uh memories by fergie yeah man like that song is iconic bro and it is it is i mean you hear like his interpolation of it i'm just like i don't know or like nuk if you buck like that's like
00:38:04
Speaker
That was hard shit, bro, like that. We grew up on that. That was a time. There's a mentality with that. And then you hear, what was it? Juju on the beat. Juju on the beat. God. This is what we doing? Like, this is, we went from this to this. I don't think that's so bad. And I think about like, when Watch the Throne came out, and Kanye was sampling Otis Redding.
00:38:33
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Oh boy. My boy always defines me. That's all I said, Kanye boy, Kanye the Golden Sampler when I heard that. I was like, how the hell you sample that?
00:38:52
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But that's what we went from is sampling things before and adding a new riff on it. I hate to focus on Kanye, but he's just so good at samples. He is, he is. My beautiful dark twisted fantasy just has so many gems from old rock covers to pop hits that people hadn't heard. And now you got, I don't know,
00:39:20
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I just, I don't like it. I don't like the originals. Like it's not an evolution of it. Yeah. I feel, I will say, I feel like Victoria Monet, shout out to her, man. She did a really good job with the On My Mama like concept.
00:39:42
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and kind of flipping it and making it like a catchier, you know, oh, excuse me. Oh, my mama is a cooker for sure by Charlie boy, but she flipped it and kind of made it to her own. And like, it's very palatable. Like you enjoy listening to it on the radio. So I think she did a good job with that. But like, I like to your point, like a lot of people just don't have that creativity as per se.
00:40:04
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I feel like there's some that's still there, though. Like, Schoolboy, can you use a new album? Oh, yeah. Blue Lips. Like, some of it. I immediately noticed some of the samples. I was looking like, who is this? I'm familiar with that tune. Like, where did they pull that from? Like, you sampling John Coltrane. You got just, like, some real deep cuts on that album. Oh, yeah. I feel like there's ways to do it. But when the music industry is just, like, so
00:40:34
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focused on generating music as fast as possible and trying to have the next hit. And it just turns into interpolations. And it's not really, like, genuine sampling of things. Like, it's just, let's take a stream that is already successful, and let's speed it up a little bit or slow it down, change the pitch, put some new lyrics on it, you know, put lipstick on a pig, push it out. And I really like that. That's a great interpretation. What'd you think, Steph?
00:41:02
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This isn't really anything new. I feel like if you have a problem with samples, then you probably have a problem with hip hop and just R&B ever since the 70s. I mean, samples are just so ubiquitous nowadays and so easy to use that of course a lot of music, popular music is going to be made with samples because it's just a lot more effort to get some instrumentalists in the studio and just start going to work. I mean, that's just the reality about it.
00:41:28
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And for me, it's just like, is it tastefully done or is it not? You know, some songs I feel like are good, some aren't. Frankly, I like, and I know this is gonna be sacrilegious as saying here, but like, I like Juju on the beat more than the Kiffy Buck. I'ma be honest. No,
Anime's Cultural Impact
00:41:45
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no, no. But okay, what I do have a big problem with is like, Neo, he did an interpolation of the,
00:41:54
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friend zappy song computer love from the 70s. Oh, do you know that? I might. Yeah. So do you know, do you know what I'm talking about? And just like, Neil, like you better than that, bro. Like, he's like one of the best songwriters of the past 20 years. Like, you don't, you don't need to do that. And so, yeah, so it's just like, I don't know. I just have to hear the song. And if I like it, I'm like, okay, well, I'm fine with this. If I don't like it, I'm like, well, fuck it.
00:42:23
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Yeah. And I feel like sometimes it's just lazy. Like sometimes it'll be a lot of rappers and I'm gonna call out some Tennessee rappers that be doing this shit like from Memphis. Like they have the laziest verses and the laziest flows, but they have a hard sample in the back. And it's like, I can't help but like the song, but it's just the sample that I like. So yeah, it's production has a lot to do with that. And like, to your point, I think like,
00:42:50
Speaker
If you can make the original, if you can make your song better than like, or be original or make it just as catchy, I feel like it's just clear for me. You know what I mean? Just don't like devalue what was already done. It's like, you know, taking a Van Gogh and like putting graffiti on it of like the hood and not putting like an actual like message on it to like add to what was already there. You know, it's just like make it better. Don't make it worse.
00:43:20
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Yeah, that's my pony remakes, man. I'm kind of different. I kind of like that one, bro. I ain't gonna hold you. That kind of, that thing kind of slapped, man. That's what it really goes. That's what it really goes. That's one of the reasons they doing this. Because they don't get away with you. Yeah, man. Now, but to Steph point, I feel like, I agree, like remixing, sampling, like interpolations have been around forever and it's kind of like on a case by case, like,
00:43:50
Speaker
You know, does it sound good? Is it an evolution? You know, all that. I feel like, but some steps that stuck out to me, like artists don't have time for like live, like instrumentation studio. I don't know what happened. I feel like we do need to get back to that though. Cause people, people who invest in it, like have released some of the best projects, you know, their career, like everybody talks about to Pimp a butterfly, you know, Kendrick, like,
00:44:20
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He had, he had live instrumentation in the studio 2014 for his drive. Cole had live instrumentation. Yeah. Some of scissors joints. And I don't know what, like what died in like that golden era with Motown. I don't know if it was like, once the heroin stopped flowing, people didn't want to pay me. Cause I'm going to tell you what that thriller album, why is it the thriller album? Why is it still relevant to this day, man? Yeah.
00:44:48
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Yeah, complete original productions then print the top to bottom and prints cuts like I don't Pay these people in heroin again because we need Music was good They doing it they just not making
00:45:14
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They're trying to perform on the street. They grew up in the studio. All right, Uncle Charlie, and put him back in the studio, man. Don't, like... Hey, look, Uncle Charlie been good since he been on crack, bro. Have y'all seen his tiny desk? He talked about being on crack. He was like, I'm done. I'm good. And the man still sounds good to this day, y'all. Hey, shout out to him. Shout out to that man.
00:45:44
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He got one of my favorite songs. Hey look, if you can conquer that, you a bad man. Whatever Rick James had and whatever he was giving to you. Oh boy. I hate giving the older generation props when they like back in my day, everything was because no, it wasn't. It just wasn't. But when they talk about music, just like the emotion and the feeling and just like even on the sampling interpolation, like
00:46:11
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You have one person do a song and then someone else do they cover it and it's just like, Oh my God. Like I didn't know. Yeah. Or the original singer for that. Cause perfect example with the van draws a lot of songs we think he did where somebody else wasn't his son. I was shook when I found that out, man. Like with you didn't sing here and now for real, for real. We don't care. That's his song. Exactly. Hey,
00:46:41
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Tom's a crazy dude. Bring the heroin back. Bring back Mozart. He's going to get good music again. Right. Bring back the suits and the one mic and the conks. We need that. I did want to clear something up. Yeah, Tibetan Butterfly does have a lot of live production, but it also has like a ton of samples as well. They just chopped up in a way you can't even tell it.
00:47:05
Speaker
No, I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying like, but that's the same one that we liked though. Yeah. You can't tell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he also had people like Thundercat in the studio. He had Kamasi Washington on the horns, like, like they paying like real deal musicians. It's not just Ali. Yeah. Yeah. You know,
00:47:29
Speaker
All right, y'all, we're going to move into this next topic. So Marvel versus DC, which cinematic universe is creating the better projects? And we also have kind of a sub thing with this. We're coming up with the Black Justice League or Black Avengers. So we're going to start off with Steph Curry this time, man. So which do you think has the better projects, Marvel or DC? And then what is your Black Justice League slash Black Avengers?
00:47:59
Speaker
I feel like this topic is a setup. Y'all know how I feel about Marvel and DC. Don't make me do this, bro. How you doing, man? We putting the pressure on you, man. You got to choose a size, though. Oh, God. Gun to your head. I like the 2022 Batman a lot. That's probably the favorite superhero movie I've seen in a while. Is that the Robert Pattinson one? Yeah, that one. That one. I would say that one was good. I think that one was really good. I still got to give it my watch.
00:48:30
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For me, Marvel, it just feels soulless. I'm gonna keep it real. It feels like it's made by a committee of people that are trying to appeal to everybody from toddlers to 60-year-old men. And it's like, it just doesn't work for me. It doesn't feel creative. It doesn't feel fun. It just feels like it's soul-taking. I hate going to those movies, man. I'm being honest, like I do. And...
00:49:03
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A team of 20 niggas what in the context of DC though, this ain't a Marvel bash fest Marvel versus you
00:49:13
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No, no, no, this is opinion. Hey, Steph Curry, speak your mind. I'm going to say this and I'm going to shut up. I'm going to say this and I'm going to shut up. All right. No, don't shut up over here. We're going to talk about this.
00:49:32
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What really killed me inside was that I watched a Spectacular Spider-Man from like, what was that, 2012, 2010? The Animator's Spider-Man. Oh, Spectacular Spider-Man, okay. That's not part of the cinematic universe. It's better than any Marvel movie I've ever seen, and I'm being honest. You're talking about the cartoon. For a kid's cartoon to be better,
00:49:57
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Any Marvel movie I've seen That means that's at the very bottom of the bottom of the bottom to me. So I gotta go with DC Can I ask a question? Yeah, I just I just want to ask I'll shut the fuck up
00:50:15
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Which DC movie do you like other than, other than the Batman, like DC cinematic universe movie that you like? Corey, what I'm trying to say is that the bar says hello for me that if I like any movie from DC, then I'm going to put it above Marvel. That's what I ask.
00:50:36
Speaker
Where in the DC movie do you like? The Batman. That's not a part of the cinematic universe. Yeah, that's not. Other worlds. That's other worlds. Yeah. Then I'm done. I'm done, man. It's all you. Then neither. Oh, boy. It's loose, though, man. How's that job, sir? I don't even know what to say.
00:51:04
Speaker
You got to stay in tune, man. Because I was going to say to your point, you're saying Marvel used to hire DC directors when strangely enough, James Gunn, who directed a good amount of the Guardians of the Galaxy films, is now the sole creative director of the new DC Cinematic Universe.
00:51:30
Speaker
No, I didn't say hire a DC director. I said hire a directive who has a creative vision for the project, and he's not going to get stumped on by 20 other niggas. I feel like it's fun to pick a lot of what you said. This is lame. Yeah. DC suffers the same issues. You're taking a Marvel director and putting them over DC projects. I'm lost. I'm sorry. All right. Can I go? Yeah.
00:51:58
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If we talk about cinematic universe, like totality of projects and like the world that they're trying to create.
00:52:05
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It's Marvel all day. To Steph's point, I actually agree. I think a lot of the recent Marvel projects, even back to Infinity Wars, I think were shallow and not that good from a narrative perspective. It was just the nostalgia and the kid in me and seeing that stuff on the big screen that really drew me in. DC is dog shit, bro. It is so fucking terrible.
00:52:32
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a man
00:52:50
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Watch the first Justice League. Watch Justice League. Henry Cavill. You can see the little lip quiver, bro. You can see the players he's talking. Because he had a mustache for another movie. He didn't want to cut it. And it was like, oh, we'll just CGI the mustache off. That's DC. The Flash movie? That looked like someone put that shit together on fucking, I don't know, man. I could have edited that movie. That shit looked terrible.
00:53:18
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It was like the story suck. Ryan, Green Lantern. Do y'all remember that? Cause I remember that terrible Ryan Reynolds, Green Lantern. Yes. The thing with DC, they got a whole lot of potential and they never, they never executed properly.
00:53:38
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Tell me, they have the biggest names. They have Batman, Joker, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Legs, Fumble That Bag, bro. Who the fuck wanted an Aquaman movie? All ladies, man. Nobody asked for that.
00:53:59
Speaker
They want to see you talking. I can't remember. The jokes have always been Aquaman is lame. He talks to food. Yeah. And somebody in a board room was like, let's make a movie about him. No, let's put it. Let's put college in the ocean. That's crazy, bro. Marvel, Marvel don't have that problem. I'm sorry. Yeah. Marvel might suck, but it's not DC. DC is like on a whole another level of shitty.
00:54:28
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Mm-hmm. And can I clarify something so I don't get comments, bro? I am admittedly, bro, like one thing I need to know about how I was raised. I didn't watch. I didn't watch normal movies growing up. I watched shit like what The Matrix is. It's kind of out there, but like shit like 2001 A Space Odyssey. Like that's what I was watching when I was growing up. This is like weird shit on the roof. Like experimental shit. Like that's all I really care about. Like that encompasses like your personality.
00:54:58
Speaker
I was just talking about 2001 Space Odyssey being tired of niggas and just wanting to live in space. That's crazy. That's really crazy. Okay. What was you about to say, Jack? Oh, sure. Well, I guess I can go ahead and say, if I had to pick from a cinematic standpoint, I definitely had to choose Marvel. Now, where DC, I feel, has more of
00:55:28
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a leg of it is definitely in the, well, I don't think Marvel does any animated shows, but the DC animated shows have always been pretty decent. But as far as like for the cinema, for the purpose of standing on top again, Marvel beats the DC Bob now. And to point out what Juso mentioned, like, man, DC has so much potential. Like if they can really just like hammer in on
00:55:56
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Like just going one superhero at a time, like kind of how Marvel did, like, you know, you can, you can, you can hammer in definitely on Batman. I mean, we had hammered in on Batman multiple times at this point. Oh, it's decade. They need to do a Terry McGinnis movie. You said who? They need to do a Terry McGinnis Batman, like Batman Beyond. Yeah. They got, they got that, they got a static shot. They can do a static shot. I've been waiting forever for them to do a DC static shot.
00:56:25
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like a movie, like I've been waiting for a Logis, but. I don't want them to do it. They'll fuck it up. They will fuck it up. Ray Fisher, Cyborg, Justice League. They. Cyborg. They did. Black people so dirty with that rendition of Cyborg. I'm sorry. Yeah. It could have been way better. I like Ray Fisher, but like they played him out. That is looking crazy. Yeah.
00:56:54
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But, um, but yeah, just so what about you, man? Yeah. Like to your point, um, for first and foremost, the MCU and totality is way better than the DC, uh, cinematic inverse. Uh, DC has a lot of great projects. I will say DC has a lot better, complex stories than Marvel does and a lot more. I want to say relative stories that make the characters more human than super.
00:57:26
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But with that said, DC has a lot of potential. I had one of the best looking Sinestros I've ever seen in the Green Lantern, but they never touched on that. You got the Flash movie, which had a lot of potential in my opinion. They kind of dropped the ball with the writing on that. I think that was due to the writer strike or whatever happened. But you could have literally took the Flashpoint comic series, put it in there and
00:57:49
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possibly revamped the DC universe, but they wanted to follow. To your point, why didn't they just follow the flash point, like the animated storyline that they had? Yeah. Like it was really good. Who knows, man. You got it. You got it. People who want to do this and that story, but it didn't, it didn't do well, as you can see.
00:58:18
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Yeah, like the Snyder Cut of Justice League should have been the original Justice League that they put out completely because the original version, the CGI mustache, just having, gosh, I forget the villain's name, Justice League, but no. Many dark side, it was just called. Yeah, many dark side.
00:58:45
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I forget his name, but yeah. That was a moment for them to have a true notable villain. Steppenwolf. Steppenwolf, that's his name. Had him in there. They could have had a true villain in there of mass proportion. I mean, it kind of is what it is. Marvel, they... And this is why I love
00:59:08
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Phase one through three, because they really took the time to build backstories and character development for all their characters, like looking at Tony Stark and seeing the development over time in his movies, like constantly improving. Arrogant dude finally cares about humanity, wants to save it, wants to eventually save the world. You see him mess up with that, takes the ultimate sacrifice.
00:59:31
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snaps the whole world, but ends up losing his life at what cost? Yo, that whole line, man, that whole Infinity movie, man, was crazy. And everything I feel like passed in-game has been like a hit or miss. The Loki series, one and two has been pretty good. I will say WandaVision, Ray's series, they could have did the last episode better, but they just kind of rushed that.
00:59:59
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You know, Shang-Chi, I love, which is a really hot take. I love Eternals. It was a different take than what the Marvel movies have been and kind of just like a whole different world. And, you know, they have like, they have the right form of the ages. Black Panther. Oh. Under forever. Come on. Bro. Amazing. Amazing job, Black Panther. That alone stuff should make you weren't.
01:00:25
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Marvel Universe over it. They did it for the culture. Facts. That first Black Panther was something else. That second Black Panther, that hit you right there in the heart for sure. And they did it so eloquently, man. They did it so eloquently, recasting for T'Challa. It was tasteful.
01:00:49
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Very, very tasteful. Yeah, I'm just excited to see. I'm hopeful for where the MCU goes because I will say that just being an MCU fan, like the last few movies that they put down in these projects in general, they haven't been tookers. Like I want them to be, man. Like the Hawkeye series was getting good, but then they dropped the ball in the last like episodes. Echo was cool. Moon Knight was good, I thought.
01:01:16
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You know, the Marvels, it was cool. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. It's just like, you know, I just think there needs to be more, a lot more attention to detail in the writing of the script. I think I know they're trying to gear up for like, incursions and kind of just like, secret wars. And then this nigga, Jonathan Majors, what a fumble, bro. What a complete fumble with this, man. And just what could have been, honestly, but you know, it just kind of is what it is.
01:01:45
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Just moving away from that. I know they're probably going to do it. It's a lot of factors, man. But you know, equation, man, we could have had came. We could have for real. We will miss out on the borders. We're going to miss out on Rama Tut, Scarlett Centurion is all of them, man. But I love the way that Loki series kind of killed him off openly. Yeah. Openly killed him off. And like, if he wants to come back again, if he doesn't cool,
01:02:14
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It just kind of is what it is. But yeah, it's just an unfortunate situation, but make it be lenient. But to that point, getting into this All Black Avengers or Justice League. Yeah, I forgot to mention it. I'd say my to-go or who I would personally choose, my screensaver, Miles Morales, you know what I mean? The Afro-Latino.
01:02:44
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Um black spider-man spider-man is my favorite superhero of all time anyway, but just uh, You know having a black one Fire and he also has like the bioelectricity with the the bio shop. Yo in the movie i'm gonna do my own thing and and and just Pushes the go off. Yo, that's that's who I want in uh In my super girl team. Why every black hero got electric powers though?
01:03:12
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Yes. I also want to talk about that too. Like all the prominent black hero, like black lightning, static, more allies, like still every blue marble, blue mark, kind of. Yeah. Like they all got electricity powers. Yeah. Or yeah. I don't know what it is. It feel racist, but it's a cool, I don't care, but it kind of, it's like the best power. That's probably a little bit too black. I don't.
01:03:42
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He can't, I mean, rock look kind of, I don't know. He's in videos. He's Egyptian. Yeah, we claim him. We claim him. Same difference. Yeah. Just a different stop on the boat. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. For sure. Everybody got electricity. That's crazy. That is well. Elemental. Hmm. I don't know why. Am I being accepted or some shit? It's gotta be racist. No. Shout out to Stan Lee, all of them, like. Yeah. Yeah, Kirby.
01:04:12
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Jack Kirk is a little racist. I ain't going like they didn't think so. But they play with them racist tropes. So I feel like giving black people electric powers probably comes from a not a great place. But to them because them some dope ass powers. I still fuck with it. I love to have electricity. And I'm not trying to get a topic. But isn't it an open secret that Stan Lee basically didn't write in that shit? Hey, chill, watch your mouth. Wait, is that is that true or not?
01:04:41
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I don't know. There is controversy that Stanley took a lot of credit for a lot of the ideas that Jack Kirby brought first, but since the partnership, the lines are a bit blurred, so it's up in that area. Okay, we can leave it at that. That's why I always commend Stanley and Jack Kirby for both of their work. Gotcha. According to Corey, we not go dead too deep.
01:05:07
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Right, right, right. We can't disrespect the dead. Shout out to Stan Lee. Yeah. Shout out to him. So just to stay on time, we're going to move to our final topic. So this is our final topic is over Akira Toriyama, impact of anime on Black community and anime biggest versus biggest in the light anime. So first off, condolences to Akira Toriyama's friend and family.
01:05:37
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Rest in peace. Hey look, we're sharing. Our boys on Snake Way making his way to King Cod's planet right now man. I ain't a lot like this just to start off with that man. It kind of hit me a little because it's like you know first thing I thought it's like man you know
01:05:59
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That was, Dragon Ball was really my first introduction to anime. So it's kind of crazy in a sense where it's just like, dang, this dude that really kind of like helped start off for like month, love or watch the anime, it's gone. And you know, and that was just kind of what they like. And like so many people that came after, you know, that were mangaka, you know, and also helped to create their own anime. Like, you know, they were under,
01:06:29
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they were people that learned from him. So it's just like, I think that was just kind of one thing where it kind of hit me hard, like, damn, that really is really like a big loss right there for the anime community right there. For sure. Yeah, but what y'all think on that before we move on to, I guess, as far as like a curatorial with his impact on anime and what it gets to you. Yeah, shout out to him, man. Honestly, he influenced generations.
01:06:59
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I mean, you got young black kids talking about turning Super Saiyan, blonde hair and blue eyes, you know what I'm saying? Which is a crazy concept, but literally, man, from the, from the, from the Budokai's to the Tenkaichi's man on PlayStation, whatever we played it on, man, trying to turn Super Saiyan, literally influence hip hop. You hear Goku references Kamehameha, Majin Buu, and like,
01:07:26
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music in general, like hip-hop, it's a lie. So he definitely influenced it and it's going to be missed. He's super impactful and it's never going to be another one. He walked so a lot of other animates could run, essentially. You know what I mean? Yeah, I agree. I mean, Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z was like the first
01:07:51
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you know, anime I ever encountered, you know, on Toonami Cartoon Network, like Saturday morning, run to the TV to see the new the new episode of Dragon Ball Z to see, you know, who Goku is fighting. You know, Akira Toriyama, like his work, you know, it really spanned across the globe. It impacted a lot of people. You know, a lot of people resonated with the characters in the world that he created.
01:08:19
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So much so that, you know, what he was producing in the eighties and, you know, the anime in the nineties, they still making video games. They still making new episodes for the show. So a big impact. And yeah, I can't really, I can't really imagine a childhood without his work just because of how prominent and important it was. So, you know, big ups to him, you know, being able to be on the other side of the world and create something that
01:08:47
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you know, people that have a whole different outlook on life can still connect to. Yeah, so he was, I think easily, maybe at this generation's most, one of this generation's most influential artists just in the world period. I mean, not only did he popularize anime in the 90s in America, but he also like laid down a lot of those, a lot of those tropes that you see all the time in anime now,
01:09:18
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the tournament, the power ups, the power scale and all that stuff really started with Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. And I feel like he's one of the people like,
01:09:30
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I watch anime, but I don't watch everything. I don't watch Dragon Ball Super. I haven't watched the episode of Dragon Ball Z since I was a teenager. So I'm not that big into his stuff, but just objectively speaking, he's a genius level creator when it comes to
01:09:51
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to just his craft and that has to be respected. I mean, when you honestly like from start to finish, like read the sell saga and the freezer saga, like some of the stuff he was doing at the time was like mind blowing, like revolutionary from a storytelling perspective. So shout out to him. I guess one thing to touch on too, man, like just the art style and the animation, like, you know, like kind of like just
01:10:18
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The art style to today, like I know it's like from the nineties, but it's still nice to look at. Like if I, if I like, whenever I go back and do watch Dragon Ball Z, I'm like, this art is still like nice to look at, you know, for some of the days straight back in the eighties, like I'll just like, it doesn't bother me at all, you know, to look at the art style and stuff. But really I prefer it really over Super's art style. You know, I mean, I will admit I haven't watched Super like them, but the thing is, is that,
01:10:48
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I appreciate the Z style a little bit more in comparison to Super. I don't know what it is about it though. It's more nostalgic. I feel like Super looks kind of like more shiny and polished. Yeah. I don't want to sound like an old head saying that, but it's just like, I think also too, the amount of stuff that comes with when he's animating the fights and stuff like that. I don't know. It's just something that's where
01:11:13
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And I'm not our person by any means, but it's like the, the, you can see the effort, more effort that's put into whizzing Z versus super. That's just my opinion though. And that, that could be subjective. Yeah. I mean, something I'll say is like the story beats too. Cause like there's like a stigma that I feel like black people have or have had.
01:11:43
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about like anime, manga, just like entertainment that comes from, from outside, like what is deemed the culture, you know, which is weird. Cause like we've generated so much that is like gone out into the world that gets re interpolated, remixed, you know, we culture it up. And then we suddenly don't rock with it anymore. Like, you know, rock, you know,
01:12:11
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prime example, boys back in the day. And now it's like, Oh, black people don't listen to rock. Like, it's kind of, that's a weird statement, but like to bring it back to like, you know, anime manga, just like there's a stigma because it's different. It's not like it's created by the Japanese. Like it's, it's not a black thing, but the story beats like resonated so much, especially in like Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball, like,
01:12:39
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the Frieza saga, like Goku putting hands on a racist. Like, facts. Big facts. I can resonate with that. Like, that was the first time I seen somebody like really put pause on a racist and just like beat the brakes off of him for sick episode strength.
01:13:00
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He killed that thing, man. That was lit. I was like, damn, you can do that? That's crazy. He just cut his man in half. That's crazy. Or just like the life lessons. Goku was getting his ass beat all the time. And he will come back stronger. And you hear that from your parents and from other people. You got to roll with the punches, and you might get knocked down, but you get back up. Shut up. Turn the anger into something positive.
01:13:29
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Goku go Super Saiyan for the first time after getting fucked up Bro, he's like, yeah, okay. All right. I see the vision Mm-hmm. So I feel like that then crazy State stated enough like the stories that Akira Toriyama was able to put out there and just like the concepts that he was dealing with alongside like the animation to your point Jack like
01:13:53
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He really just created a product that a lot of people that may not be Japanese or have a direct correlation to that culture, understand the references of Son Goku and the Monkey King spirit, they can still find a connection with it. And I thought that that's really valuable and just, to Steph's point, a credit to the genius that was Akira Toriyama.
01:14:24
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Right? And then we're going to tackle the second half of this topic. Okay, Cory. Hey, bro, I'm gonna put you on the spot, bro. Okay. What do you mean, anime niggas versus niggas that like anime? What is an anime nigga? Is it a nigga that goes to Comic Con and cosplay's Goku or some shit? Like, what is an anime nigga? Alright, so...
01:14:49
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not rebooting anything that i just said about you know how amazing Akira Toriyama his work and just like the impact that has had on a lot of people myself included i feel like there's an important distinction that needs to be made this is another psa to black people moment you got i'ma give two versions but you got black people that like anime and you got black anime nerds
01:15:14
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And then the desensor version is you got niggas that fuck with anime. You got anime niggas. There is a difference. And let's not act like there isn't a difference. I feel like every black person knows what I'm talking about, even if they can't articulate it. And what I mean by that is you got your black people who like anime, right? Like any other art form.
01:15:42
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you know, consume it, they watch it, you know, my hero academia, we watch it, you know, Jujutsu Kaisen, I don't personally watch it, but I know people that rock with it, they watch it, they read it, bleach. Attack on Titan. Attack on Titan. I'm a kid from old school, Yu Yu Hakusho, like, I can talk about anime and I enjoy it, I consume it, but that shit is not my life, like, versus an anime nigga, like,
01:16:12
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they buying the Naruto headbands and they wearing that shit 24 seven. They doing the Naruto run, you know, when they, when they taking a flick, you know, they, they, they, they flew, they swoosh in the jacket to make it look like,
01:16:37
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They're just socially awkward. That doesn't have to be an anime digger. That's just somebody that don't know how to act. They're socially awkward niggas that don't fuck with anime though. But anime niggas are different, bro. I'll give you a perfect. I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I'll give you an example. Oh, no. No. Are you going to name this person? No, I'm not going to name nobody. OK. OK. That's not even somebody that y'all know. OK. I ordered an Uber back in 2016, right?
01:17:06
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And I had to be at this place at a certain time. The Uber pool, and it's a black dude. And I'm like, OK, cool. You know? So the music might be good. We might have a good conversation. We'll see. Oh, boy. The car pulls up. It's like a Toyota Yaris or something like that. Cover it in fucking anime stickers, bro. And I'm not talking about it.
01:17:35
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Big ass decals of anime girls with the little blushing, wink faces.
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01:17:41
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Big, full size, just covering it. Pikachu's and Digimon and all kinds of anime. Just every single inch of this car, you would have thought he got a wrap. And I had to be at this appointment at a certain time. I'm not going to say it was a life or death situation, but it was important. Important enough that
01:18:06
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I sat there for a good, I looked out the window, saw the car, saw the little GPS window, and was like, fuck it, I might not get in this. I don't want to be seen. I don't want to see, no. And yes, got in the Uber, hair was uncapped, hygiene was not there, all the stereotypical shit of an anime nigga.
01:18:33
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They don't care about nothing but anime. Like, if the girl is not pixelated or drawn, they don't fuck with her. Like, that is, to me, what an anime nigga is. And I reject that. I'm a nigga that likes anime. I'm not an anime. I think you're describing somebody who has, like, a mental illness. Like, genuinely. Like, I think you're just describing somebody that's just not well. That's not normal.
01:19:02
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I don't disagree at all, actually. I think this is a problem, but... Okay, so this is what I'm gonna say. You guys named a bunch of anime, and I'm gonna be honest, like, those are like... I don't even consider those to be anime, almost. Like, those are for, like, all of those you guys named come out of Shonen Jump or, like, some adjacent magazine. That's, like... So you said those are for niggas, like... Those are for, like, yeah, like, gym roles, like, guys, like...
01:19:33
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So you're saying like, you're an anime nigga. I watch a lot of anime. I'm not going to even hold you on that one. I'm not. He takes bath, though, when he combs his hair. He's not an anime. Yeah. For me, when I was first getting into anime, like back in the early 2000s, the 90s, it was like a culture about it that is hard to describe nowadays because it's so mainstream.
01:20:03
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Like, back in the day, first and foremost anime was harder to get so it was more of a so culture around it. Like today is all on Crunchyroll is all on Netflix is is really accessible so it's not
01:20:17
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It's not as serious as it was back in the day, but back in the day, it used to be more of a... I don't even know how to describe it. It's like, if you were in it, you were in it. You couldn't just have a toe in, you couldn't just put a foot in. You was gonna watch something, you had to watch everything. You had to know. That's the problem. You niggas was gatekeeping.
01:20:48
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It created weird ass niggas though Man they those those guys are posers to man
01:20:55
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I'm sorry, if I see a dude walking down the street in one of those like robes from Naruto, you know the ones I'm talking about with the clouds on. Shinobi? Nah, from Pain and all them. Yeah, Akatsuki. Yeah, if I see somebody walking in, nah bro. I like Naruto like the next one, but come on dog.
01:21:19
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The thing that they know it piss me off is when you will start seeing dudes like at the lunch table like trying to practice like a juke a finger What set you throw it up Oh My dog
01:21:50
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It's not from the village hidden in the clouds boy, what's good? That's hilarious No, but that that's the problem with that gatekeeping is like Someone like me I asked somebody like a bro put me I like Dragon Ball Z is lit put me on to something I'm trying to be like
01:22:11
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No, you're not really with it. Like, yeah, you don't really like it. Chill, man. Like, I got other interests. Like, you can't. Yeah, I feel you. I feel you. But like, sometimes people be like, I like, I like anime. I'd be like, have you seen this? No. Have you seen this? No. Have you seen this? No. It's like, okay, what have you seen? I saw Naruto. I really like it. It's like, man, get out of here, bro.
01:22:35
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Somebody trying to get into something bro that you're damn. Okay, and then you say Man, if you ain't seen death, no, you ain't boy like that. That's that's like Beginners level right there. Let me ask you this many episodes of one piece. Have you seen so badly?
01:22:56
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I don't like One Piece. Okay. Nevermind. I don't. I agree with that statement. I gave up on One Piece like, boy, it was the first 100 episodes. I'm like, this is still good. Okay. Hold on. I got to get this off my chest, bro. This is something that's been, I've been wanting to say for a minute and I didn't know how to express it. I just have a problem with serialized entertainment in general. So anything that comes out of Shonen Jump, I'm probably
01:23:21
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not going to mess with because they adhere to like a very strict schedule. Like every week, every couple of weeks, you got to come in with something. And so at some point, it's just like, you just pull this out of your ass so you can have some material so you can get a paycheck. It's just not that creative to me. You know, so I get it. Yeah, I get it. I don't pay as much attention to these. Oh, no, man.
01:23:48
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Bleach came out of Shonen, and Bleach is damn near a masterpiece to me. Hey, love Bleach. New York is Shonen, and it has some of the best storytelling. I feel like it's possible. You can have a serialized IP that isn't just cookie cutter or just ass pools.
01:24:11
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Okay, the difference with those guys you just named, and I'm showing my power level here, bro. I know too much about this shit, but like... Those guys are freaks. All the guys you named, so Gashi, the guy who made Yu Yu Hakusho, he's a freak. All he does is, that's all he cares about, is writing manga and anime, and that's all he's been doing.
01:24:33
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And not a lot of people are him, same dude that made, the guy who makes One Piece, Oda, all he cares about is anime and manga. And that's all he does with his entire life. That's why he could keep it up for so many years. Most guys like T.T. Kubo, the guy who made Bleach, most normal people that start working for shoulder jump, they get burnt out and they quit eventually. And so. That's true.
01:24:57
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I feel like that's what most things though, like, yeah, it's some singers that are cuts above the wrist. Mm hmm. The whole field is kind of like, whatever. Yeah. So a lot of people that can do it, but not everybody loves it. Yeah. But what y'all feel about this niggas that like anime versus animated or PG version version, black people that appreciate anime versus black people that are obsessed with anime.
01:25:30
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I feel like as long as you're not watching that... You know what I've been saying, what's it called? As long as you're not watching that Hintai, you cool in my book.
01:26:09
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I feel like I'm getting called out because I did bring a smut manga to school one day.
01:26:20
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Yeah, and I was showing everybody, bro. I was like, look at this. Oh my God. Steph, I find out something new about you, like, every conversation. Hey, did a certain history teacher find you with that? Nah, nah. This was before, like,
01:26:45
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Okay, I'm about to say that's that's this the Patel days. Yeah You just showing people yeah straight up, bro
01:27:06
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Hey, oh my God. That's a big pause on that. You sure anybody that want to look? I didn't even start a conversation with that though. Like, yo, what's up, man? Look. Yeah, like, what's the introduction to that? Like, look at page 72. I'd be like, you want to see something crazy? They'd be like, yeah. And I'd be like, all right, I got something for you.
01:27:26
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How did you not get caught? That's my question. Because I feel like you did it a few times. The teachers didn't care. That was the main reason. Where did you get this from, the library? My mom bought it. No, he owned it. Yeah, I'm about to say he had to own that three-shot kid, brother. But you know where they got that at school. She couldn't have known with you.
01:28:09
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So what this is a good so bad hey, oh
01:28:14
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Before we end, is there anything else anybody else better break up before we sign up for today? Oh, one last thing. Who are we giving our detention to? You know, since Hallway's on BS,
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01:28:28
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you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So our detention is that nigga that got Dre accredited, man, from the NBA. Daily Green? Ah, man.
01:28:41
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I would flip that, I would give it to Drayton. Can you add context? Oh, so for context for people that don't know, so there's this NBA player, Jaylen Green. He renovated Drayton, she's from, what was she from? What is that, basketball? Basketball. Yeah. What's her name? 21, 22 years old, and is she like 40 years old? 42, 43, something like that.
01:29:08
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She up there. Wait, did she take the kid to turn? She's pregnant. She's still pregnant, yeah. OK, OK, OK. She gone have it. She took, she had like a maternity photo shoot. Yeah, all right. She posted on International Women's Day, a lot of days. That's wild behavior, man. I agree with you. I give the detention to her.
01:29:37
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her. She has a son that is the same age as Jaylen Green. The Rock is he's like 22 years old. She's in her 40s. She has a song. I'm a beat like the energy that the world has for men in the 40s that hunt and creep on. It's predatory. It's very predatory. Like
01:30:06
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I would be side-eyeing in like, what are you doing? Like a 40-year-old trying to holler at a 22-year-old? This is the same thing. She know what she doing. I get hurt at the team. Because that's... That Marzah Pippin. Yeah. That Bernice Burgos. All of them, man. Praying on these young dudes. It's crazy. Honestly, it's nasty. But they fine, but like, it's nasty. So I'll modify. I put both of them things in there. The only reason why I say this is because they live bad. I just like...
01:30:35
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I hear so many stories, man, where it's just like, boy, y'all get caught up with some of these girls, man, that, you know, ain't no damn good for you. And it's just like... That ain't no girl, she almost her grandma, bro, like this. I know, I know. And that's why I said I put both of them up. That's right. So, I think for business, like, man, it's always been just all these horror stories. It's like, man, you know about some of these girls that ain't gon' do right and that ain't right, man. And it's just like,
01:31:03
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Again, you want to play Rushroom? Let's look tall, man. What stuff is this like, man? But I definitely agree with Drew and Soprano, see all that though. That's so nasty ass shit right there. Yeah, we all make choices, man. I wouldn't give him the detention. I would just say he needs to be homeschooled. You don't get to go to public school no more. You having too much fun. It's like that high schooler that is trying to hook up with a teacher.
01:31:32
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Yeah. And you know, like there are jokes and stuff, but they like, they serious. Yeah. Like sit down, bro. There's actually real repercussions. Like you, you go fuck your life up. Yeah. Don't do that. And then a teacher allowing it. Yeah. And they create like, yeah. I feel like he probably had a crush on her since he was like 13. And then he got money at 22 and was like,
01:31:59
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Yama do this and she looking at it from a totally different perspective. Definitely. Yeah. Like what do you see in him? I'd like to hear her perspective on it too. Is she in love with this young man or is she? Like he's the same age as your son. Like the things that you chastise your son about, you're going to be mad at him for it. Yeah. Like when she was like a, like a 17, 18 year old, like my boy was just coming into the world. Man.
01:32:29
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Like I think that's, that's crazy. Like that's, that's seriously crazy. Shout out to him, man. He's about to be a, he's about to be a pappy. I hope you're ready for it. Hey, that wasn't balling like you ready for it. He be putting no numbers this month. He be getting them buckets, man. Why is that the NBA write a passage though? Like they get a paycheck and then they have like a baby like two months later.
01:32:59
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Like y'all got to chill, bro. Y'all got to figure some things out before y'all be- It's a rhythm. It really is. It's like PR. You got to have a baby within your first four months. Bro. I blame Will up the still. They not learning nothing, man. That man- You know, you know. Boy, he was shooting. He was spraying anywhere he could.
01:33:24
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a shooting on and off the court. You know what I'm saying? 20,000. He wasn't shooting. Those are the jump hooks. Jump hooks and put back layups, tippings. The man was good at what he did. Pause. He got a lot of kids that are looking for their dad. I don't porter, man. I don't porter. Definitely one, man.
01:33:55
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I put side by side, man. I don't border is his grandson, but I'm telling you. What was the first thought? He was. He was vintage. That's crazy to be a thought in black and white. No, thanks. Not only that, but like to have like free room, like you don't got to worry about too much diseases. Like you don't got to worry about like
01:34:22
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Social media to do that during Jim Crow is insane Perilous enough as it is in the right way put that in women likely unprotected is really insane. Well Chamberlain is is a wild boy Indeed is maniac even
01:34:47
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All right. This is a good episode, man. It's good to once again come back together with you boys. And hey, there's not anything else. Well, I guess we can go and sign out for this time. All right, man. All right. Hey, we was on a BS and man, we'll see y'all next time.