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Zelda's Final Trailer & the mystery of the California burrito - Add To Party 04.18.2023
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This week we discuss the last pre-release trailer for Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, the Final Fantasy state of play, Harry Potter is popular, and more!
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Show Introduction and Burrito Talk
00:00:14
Speaker
Welcome to Add to Party, a Friendship Simulator masquerading as a new show. I'm your host, James Hartwell, and I'm joined by Charles Jamot, and I'm joined by Andy K. And good evening.
00:00:28
Speaker
Good evening. How are you? Doing OK. Just had a nice burrito. Oh, wait, tell me about this burrito. Did you make it? No. Wait, now where was it from?
What Makes a California Burrito Unique?
00:00:41
Speaker
A local Mexican place. Oh, OK. OK. Did they have guac?
00:00:48
Speaker
Did I guac and Andy? I got a California style, had fries in it. Because you know what? Rice isn't enough. I need two starches. Wait, what is this? California style? I don't know about California. I don't know about California style burritos. That's not a thing. Yeah, it is. This is the first time I've heard about it. Is it being a sushi? What? Really? Yeah. I mean, it's not that I don't believe you. I can very much assume that it is true. I just never heard about it.
00:01:15
Speaker
California. What is a California burrito? Frequently confused with the mission. Cali burritos are gigantic at multifilings, but they skip beans and rice and starch up with French fries. Oh my God. In my case, it includes French fries, rice, and beans. California style. Wow.
00:01:39
Speaker
I'm just, sometimes you want a little, it gives a little crunch. So it's good. Special place in San Diego culture. You know what? I'm going to pay attention to that next time we go to San Diego. There you go. Check out their French fry burritos.
00:01:54
Speaker
So they're well-cooked fries is what I'm hearing. Well, I mean, you know, that varies place to place. I'm sure there's plenty of places. Oh, God, a soggy fry in a burrito. Oh, oh, yeah. No, that'll happen. Well, you know, as we know, every potato will become soggy if stayed in long enough. That's fair. That's fair. But that means you should eat it fast. Oh, I'm just like, ew, I'm just picturing these fries, James.
00:02:23
Speaker
I mean, you know, I've had I I love breakfast burritos. Breakfast burritos tend to have potatoes in them. Oh, even if they are soggy. Mm hmm. I mean, it doesn't home fries usually. So. Right. Yeah. You know, I feel like it doesn't hurt it that badly. Yeah. Well, I'm glad you and what you have for dinner. What did I have for dinner?
Cooking Experiences and Wine in Recipes
00:02:48
Speaker
Yeah. I made a hello fresh with my apron on.
00:02:53
Speaker
And I made like this spaghetti garlic something or another. But so what I've realized is HelloFresh loves cream cheese, right? They love to put in a lot of their sauces. Cream cheese just doesn't break down when you're making a sauce. So I don't know if I'm curdling it or there's just chunks floating around. Doesn't look great. Didn't do a good job mixing it then.
00:03:20
Speaker
Oh shut up! How do you mix cream cheese? It's like a frickin' brick! It usually tells you to add a little water, too. Oh, there was water, and there was three tablespoons of butter! That's a lot of butter. It was a rich and creamy sauce! Yeah, you just gotta work it, buddy. You just gotta get in there, you gotta mix it up.
00:03:39
Speaker
Bro, I sat there for a couple of minutes and I literally went back to the directions multiple times because I was like, it just says stir it in. Just stir it in until it's all stirred in. Does all stirred in mean clumps floating around? No, it means stir it in. It means keep breaking it apart and stirring. That was a couple of minutes on medium heat and there were still chunks. We suck at it because it never takes me that long.
00:04:04
Speaker
So you get your cream cheese to break down. One hundred percent. Oh, my God. What are you doing? Are you simmering? Yeah. How hot is how hot is the sauce, James? I don't know. Whatever temperature that I deem it to be correct. I have no idea what I'm doing. Well, I mean, I mean, I like to I like to freestyle, you know, it's. Wait, what? I like to freestyle with my Hello Fresh. So how how that's the whole point of Hello Fresh portion ingredients last ways.
00:04:31
Speaker
Maybe a little wine in there sometimes, you know? Oh, okay. Yeah. Do you just have wine open all the time? I mean, you get cooking wine. Is it the same? Just get some sherry. Yep, yep. Oh, yeah, sherry. Like a sherry? Sherry's a dry... Yep, get a dry sherry, get a Marsala wine, you know?
00:04:53
Speaker
Do you keep it in the shelf, or do you drink it as you cook? Well, my liquor cabinet is next to my oven, so I just kind of reach in there. Mm-mm. Because I don't know how long that's supposed to last. Every time I see, like, you have to cook with wine, it's like, well, all that wine goes to waste. Because wine- I mean, yeah, if you're buying a drinking wine, it'll go bad very quickly. If you buy a cooking wine, it lasts a while. Oh. And it still does the same thing. I thought cooking wine is for casuals. I mean.
00:05:22
Speaker
I don't know. Are you comfortable spending eight to $12 for one meal? Sure. Go for it. Buy real wine. It's very expensive. And then I try to think, oh, well, I'll just drink while I cook. What a nice night. No, it's not. And I've ever seen you drink wine. Hmm. Hmm. I don't normally. I tried getting into wine a long time ago.
00:05:47
Speaker
Like, you know, you get those like coupons for like wine online. No, that is that is not something that exists in the Northeast in our puritanical life. There is no discount on liquor. Really? You can't get wine in the mail. You kind of can't like they've eased up on a little bit, but it's state by state. Some states allow it. Some don't. The Northeast liquor laws are very strict. Really? We're not like Utah strict, but sure. Yeah.
00:06:17
Speaker
Oh, well, I'm so sorry. I can just get wine at my door from wine.com. But I tried to get into wine. I tried to get into red wines, but it's very expensive. And I didn't care that much. I mean, it's not funny. No, there's plenty of decent wines that aren't expensive, Andy. What are you talking about? One of these days, Andy.
00:06:40
Speaker
I have two segues. One of these days, I'm going to take you on a nice wine tasting tour. That'll be nice. Who's going to drive? Charles, free to tag along. Come on. Yeah. Well, Charles likes wine. I do. Do you? I don't think I've ever seen you drink wine either.
Wine Snobbery and Social Drinking Norms
00:07:00
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It was new to me recently. Not everything's for you. I'm sorry. We're the same person. It's been established.
00:07:09
Speaker
You know, just because you say it does make it true. No, Charles is a farmer's market wine snob. Oh, yeah. My problem is just that the farmer's market wine people have stopped coming. Oh, yeah. And so you can just stop drinking just like that. Yeah. You know, I just don't see drinking as the spice required for things, much like having to bring drinks to people's houses.
00:07:36
Speaker
OK, shut up. OK, let's just really quick. You do that. We can debate that. No, if you go to someone's home, yeah, you bring alcohol. It depends. Well, it for what occasion? Anything. I mean, here's the thing. And this is what I will say. I am. I am on Milwaukee, TikTok.
00:08:02
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. It comes up a lot. Um, it talks about your talks about your, your delightful beer gardens and how it's spring in Milwaukee. So, you know, you can go ride a bike with a beer. Well, it just snowed yesterday. It's still spring. Yeah. Quote unquote. Um, but no, I mean like, yeah, I mean,
00:08:28
Speaker
Like if you're going for like a dinner or a party you at, I mean, it depends, right? Like sometimes there's an expectation or brings their own drinks depending on the party. But also it's like, if you're going to like a dinner party, sometimes you ask if you would like them to bring drinks because, you know, perhaps they have wines or drinks they would like to give to you. Oh, oh, I guess. I guess it's just because you're not far off. It's all right.
00:08:56
Speaker
I'm not a monster. It's not everything. It doesn't have to be everything. It's not like, hey, I just stopped by a talk and I brought a sixer. Well, yeah, but I guess I don't just, I don't know. It's just this weekend I showed up to a friend's place without beer and I've never felt so naked.
00:09:18
Speaker
So like ungrateful. I felt like a monster for not showing up with drinks. It was terrible. I complained about it. Did they look at you there? Did they look at you and then your empty hand then back at you with disgust in their eyes or they could have.
00:09:34
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe they did. Maybe they walked into another room to talk about it. Right. Who knows? Can you believe Andy showed up without beer? Are you present for this, Charles? Absolutely. And what and what was the what was the I assume you showed up with nothing, as is your right. Actually, I brought it said I was bringing bubble tea. Well, that's true. Yeah. And my request.
00:10:04
Speaker
Uh, it was a, it was a disgust thing previously. Okay. Well then, yeah, that's kind of weird. It would be kind of weird then for Charles to be like, I'm bringing bubble tea and he's like, then I brought beer in case you want to get fucking crunk. Well, not only is it nice to bring, to share, but also to leave.
00:10:25
Speaker
Right. Kind of like a thing. Oh, God. Oh, God, I hate that. Please don't put liquor in my house. What? You don't want leftover liquor? Maybe I don't drink. I mean, fair, I guess. I socially drink. Mm hmm. Does this count as socially drinking? No, but that's OK. We know you have a problem. How does this not count as social? Because you're alone in your house.
00:10:58
Speaker
But you're here, you both are here. And you're the listening audience at large. I'm sharing a drink with all of you. On a very special episode of Ads a Party, it's Andy's intervention. I would argue, here, let's ask Chat GPT. Can we do that?
00:11:17
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Sure. How do I, how do you use jet chat GPT? I was only using five. How many has Andy had before you got it? No, no, no, no. Is it more than one or just one here? I want to ask it. This is going to take too much time, but anyways, I, I it's, it's not. It's a rather, no, it is. That's what I'm talking about.
00:11:45
Speaker
It is social drinking. Actually, do you need someone else to drink with you to make it social drinking? Yes. Yes, you do. That's the whole point. Social drinking. I thought it was just like putting a qualifier on your drinking. Oh, am I the only one drinking? Yes. Gosh darn it. That's OK.
00:12:10
Speaker
It's OK. Yeah, sure. Yeah. And have you been able to reconcile any any other worldviews, any sacrifices you've made, Andy? Oh, no, I don't. Oh, OK. So no. Yeah. Right. You could excuse anything to prevent sacrificing. Pretty much. Yeah. Well, listen, that's listen. It's all good. It's all in good fun. What's that?
00:12:40
Speaker
I said, what account did I set up chat cheap? I have a I have a license to count with open A.I. Oh, yeah. I've been really curious about like when to use A.I. And I think this is the time to use A.I. It's like math A.I. is basically any time you would Google something. Yeah, but that also is true here. I have barred up. Why are what qualifies as or what what?
00:13:10
Speaker
are the requirement, how do you say this? What are the requirements? Andy is not an AI language prompt. No, I have no idea how to use AI. I've only used it like twice. Andy, don't admit that. What do you mean?
00:13:26
Speaker
What are the requirements for drinking socially? Oh, Bart had to think a lot about this. Social drinking is defined as drinking alcohol in a social setting. Boom, crushed it. It's important to drink. What is a social setting? Here are some tips. Pace yourself. Avoid drinking on an empty stomach. How many here? How many people?
00:13:50
Speaker
need to be drinking for it to be considered social drinking. Come on, Bard. What do you got for me? There's no set number. Those are an occur to chat GPT or Lord and Savior.
00:14:09
Speaker
Social drinking typically refers to consuming alcohol beverages in social settings or situations such as a party, a dinner with friends, or a networking event. It generally involves moderate drinking and drinking in a responsible manner with the primary focus being on socializing rather than getting intoxicated.
00:14:24
Speaker
The definition of moderate drinking varies by country or organization, but generally it is the finest consuming up to one drink per day for women and up to two drinks per day for men. However, it is important to note that everyone's solace for alcohol can vary, and even moderate drinking can have negative health and cleanse for some individuals. So I'm still hearing that this is considered social drinking. It's a Zoom call. It's a Zoom call social drinking.
00:14:54
Speaker
You guys bard socks. It's acceptable. Andy, just go to open the eye dot com. Don't you have to create an account? Chat that open. We can use Google along with Google. I already got a Google. I already got this. I like I went to the site. Well, are you concerned about having too many accounts because you want to keep your privacy up? Oh, God, no, I don't care at all. OK, it's just it's just one more thing.
00:15:20
Speaker
You know, so the decision to drink during a Zoom call ultimately depends on the context of the call and the people involved in some situations, such as a virtual happy hour or a casual catch up with friends that may be accessible and even expected to have a drink or two. However, however, in more professional settings or meetings, it may not be appropriate to drink alcohol and doing so could be seen as unprofessional or disrespectful, you know, such as recording a podcast.
00:15:50
Speaker
Wait, this is professional? Oh, wow. Wow, Andy. Oh, I hope the PAX West people don't listen to this episode. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sure I meant that a different way, like in a kinder way. Like, we're not in suits and ties. We're not trying to exploit the working class. Like, we're just having a hang, you know? Anyway.
00:16:16
Speaker
Um, to keep our liquor theme going by the way.
TikTok, Mead-Making, and AI Curiosities
00:16:19
Speaker
And also, um, in our other theme of, uh, uh, hyper-fixation new hobbies. Oh, what is yours? TikTok really wants me to become a mead guy. Isn't that like drinking for Vikings?
00:16:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's honey wine. Oh, fermented honey wine. Does it taste good? I mean, look, it looks real good because they're like, and you throw blackberries, you throw dragon food in there. I'm like, honey, looks like sun pea or whatever that's called. But don't you use pea or something? No. That's a thing. I don't know where he's getting this.
00:17:03
Speaker
Yeah, I don't either. You put it in a jar and then you put it on your balcony. Look, I know about like the special sake where people chew on the rice and then put that to ferment. I've never heard of peeing. Is sun tee pee a thing? Oh, I spelled pee. No, I spelled pee right. Oh, that's number ten. Craft me is on the rise.
00:17:33
Speaker
Oh, craft mead. So that's what you're doing. You're not going to know. I'm resisting for now. Um, also because Caitlin refused to let me start. She's like, you will not become a mead person. I want that spare. Um, really wants me to do it. Um, I have found a place that does California burritos where I live. So I'm going to probably get some later this week.
00:18:03
Speaker
I'll get over the week. I'm surprised you didn't know about that Charles as a, as a, as a, as a stark supporter of starches.
Return to California Burritos
00:18:10
Speaker
Yeah. Well, you know, it doesn't come up, but you know, it's, uh, you know, it's not, it's not like I get bored and I go, give me new starch, uh, he, he didn't, isn't bought like present to me your new concoction. No. Yeah. But I will take them as they come. And so California burritos, I will go.
00:18:33
Speaker
Oh, well, you know what? California burritos and fixations on brewing your own mead. Maybe we all don't have time for that. No, why? No, because we're coming because Zelda is merely weeks away. True.
Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Trailer Discussion
00:18:48
Speaker
And they released their third and I think final trailer. Maybe. But yes, they released a new three minute trailer. Charles, did you watch it? I did. Andy, did you watch it? I did not.
00:19:03
Speaker
Okay. Spoilers. Um, like a story trailer, I guess it is. In fact, the story trailer actually, and also the final pre-launch trailer, it says there too. Um, it launched five days ago, currently sitting at 7.6 million views on the Nintendo of America channel. Not bad. Nintendo. Um,
00:19:23
Speaker
This is very much the first kind of larger glimpse at the world of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom and really focuses a lot on like why you are doing anything in this game.
00:19:38
Speaker
And man, they fuck. I had to mute it, by the way. I don't. So there'll be no sound because I have been hearing nothing but people getting takedowns left and right because of this fucking trailer. Oh, yeah. Because let me tell you something. The music in it goes hard. I'm watching it right now and I'm just thinking about the music and I'm getting goosebumps. Oh, I didn't hear any of the music. Oh, it's so good. And that's like a new theme or is it? It's a remix of OK.
00:20:09
Speaker
That explains everyone's reactions because I didn't recognize the music. Oh, yeah. But I was just like, I like this trailer. I was like, oh, everyone else loves this trailer. I was like, oh, something I'm missing. It's it's the musical thing. I mean, a lot of it, too, is this trailer is very much kind of like a shot for shot remake almost of the Breath of the Wild trailer. So it's it's kind of called back into that. But
00:20:39
Speaker
Yeah, so we get a lot of new information out of this trailer. Obviously, go watch it. Like, seriously, go watch it. But it does look like several things. One, you will be searching for Zelda as you do in a in a Legend of Zelda game. I'm glad to keep that up. Ganondorf will be returning.
00:21:04
Speaker
And not in just weird crazy boar form as clinic clam it again. Actually, we'll be back. Yeah, he's hot. People are thirsting over him. Also, Matt Mercer of Critical Role fame is voicing him. Oh, sure. Boo, Critical Role. I'm just kidding.
00:21:24
Speaker
Um, it also seems like just based on the context of the, uh, the videos they're showing is like dungeons are back, baby. Oh, you've got your dungeons, James. Yeah. They got big set piece. Dungeons look like to be back. Um, they showed several, um,
00:21:41
Speaker
several things, including looks like, you know, like a lava dungeon and a sky dungeon. You know, all the good things. Also, actually right here, Andy, is the seminal. We're going to be back to the collecting three and eight things, because really, if you look right here, Selva is holding a tear shaped object. Oh, the tears of the kingdom. Guess what? You're going to be collecting all of them.
00:22:11
Speaker
Are there eight? I'm almost positive there will be usually because they do the eight because they the sage battles usually track up the eight, which is what? Oh, sure. Light, light, spirit, fire, water, forest. Hmm. Bad fan losing the other three. But anyway, sometimes they also show link commanding a giant, not giant, but a
00:22:39
Speaker
a put together robot using the ultra hand functionality and piloting it against a giant rock elemental. Someone cut that with the Evangelion music. By the way, I'll try to find that for you later, Andy. The story music. Boom, boom, boom. Oh, wait. Now, yeah. But I hear you.
00:23:00
Speaker
Uh, where is it? Um, but yeah, it looks like this and, um, also new to the series, it looks like you may be having AI companions fighting with you at the same time, which would be a literal first for a mainland Zelda game. Not counting like Hyrule Warriors or whatever, although I don't even know if Hyrule Warriors had AI companions. I never played it. There you go, Andy, right there. Look at him go.
00:23:27
Speaker
Listeners at all the intro of the opening theme. Yeah. Listeners at home. It is just a very cute like rectangle robot. It's got a little tiny stub arm going. It's so cute. What's in that ingenuity? Creativity. Yeah. These are endless with the God hand or whatever it's called. Ultra hand. Mm hmm. But yeah, I can't wait for speed runners. They'll be really fun to watch.
00:23:56
Speaker
Well, I mean, that's the trick, though. I mean, unlike Breath of the Wild, this may be more linear, so they may not be able to beat the game to 15 minutes like they do Breath of the Wild. Yeah, but I want to see like what is the most efficient. Oh, yeah. What they make. What are the, you know, what like whether or not they'll need to use shapes or whatever else. Yeah, that'll be very fun to see. It's kind of like scribble knots to a certain extent. Like, did you either you ever place? Yeah. And did you play scribble knots? I never have. No.
00:24:24
Speaker
Oh, scribble knots was this really innovative game where you would kind of write things out and it would generate them in the world and you'd use them to solve puzzles. And at a certain point, everyone realized black hole solves the most of us. Oh, no.
00:24:41
Speaker
Could you say like characters? Sometimes, yeah, you could. You could write like names of popular characters or like if you were like king, like someone come up and like then it would clear out guards or something like that. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Scribble Nuts was a very great game. Yeah. Agreed. But Charles, where did this trailer put your hype levels for Tears of the King? Um, let's say what I'm going to do is I'm going to wait till it's out.
00:25:10
Speaker
and see how the gameplay matches up. You're less than a month away. What's winning me over is the actual NPCs that are there because it bothered me a lot.
00:25:33
Speaker
you know, of feeling empty in the world. But like the NPCs around and doing stuff, I think that would help me feel better about my play. But like if it's only if they only show up like during the scripted story stuff, right, I'd feel a little bit worse. But like if there is like rolling patrols of people in their areas and doing stuff, I'd feel a little bit better to make me feel less empty.
00:26:01
Speaker
But either case, you know, again, I'm not your die-hard Legend of Zelda fan. I will play it at some point someday. But yeah, I think it'll be good. Andy, just from what you've glimpsed from this trailer, has it done anything for you?
00:26:24
Speaker
Oh, I already preordered it after the second one. I think it was after we talked about it before. Yeah. That's kind of why I was avoiding this one. But yeah, I'm interested again. We'll see. And I just won't play it on master mode. Well, I don't think there is a master mode. So I did preorder the collector's edition and.
00:26:46
Speaker
I it's actually it was cheap. All things considered for collector's editions. I think it was only like one hundred and twenty dollars. Like all his editions can get ridiculously ridiculous. Yeah. I didn't get the OLED, the Zelda OLED that got announced, which is still on sale. A lot of people aren't buying it because I think everyone's like, I'm not buying another fucking switch. I don't care how nice those controllers look. Yeah. But I do have this thing of like.
00:27:14
Speaker
You know, that game is available at midnight on 512. My delivery hasn't come yet. I'm going to be playing this game digitally. I am not waiting like eight hours to play this game. It's been six years.
Gaming Purchases and Vacation Strategies
00:27:31
Speaker
Oh, I know. Andy, do we not forget how I bought a Switch in a mall parking lot just to play Breath of the Wild?
00:27:38
Speaker
Like I had to find an eBay that was local to me so that I didn't have to wait for shipping time so that I could go to the guy and be like, can you meet me at this parking lot? True. Yeah. If I recall, James, you also ended up buying two copies of Elden Ring. But that was also because of a delay in shipping.
00:28:01
Speaker
No, I got how does Elden Ring work again? I got the collector's edition. I they also gave me a free code for me. I have a press release code and I think I did. No, you're correct. And I also did buy digital so that I can play it the same night with all of you. So yes, I have three copies of Elden Ring. I have physical, digital and PC.
00:28:29
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, like, um, it's funny that you mentioned, like, you know, the not willing to wait and you want to play at midnight with everything else. Yeah. Um, it goes through this other artifact of our time, which is midnight, like gaming. Right. Yeah. And it's a little sad. I think the last time I got to do a midnight release was with Andy to get the PlayStation four. I think those are PS fours. Yeah.
00:28:57
Speaker
Yeah, which was fun, you know, waiting for midnight. But by then that, that mystery is gone. Sometimes it's just better to get digital, even though I do like getting physical copies of games that are important to me. I do. I do think it's interesting that I only own one physical copy of a switch game and it's breath of the wild at the only second physical copy of a switch game I will own will be tears of the kingdom.
00:29:25
Speaker
So that's how much you love it. You better get it same day. I don't know. We'll say I mean, I got it through GameStop. So, you know, I was going to say usually like Best Buy has been good at getting me games the same day. Yeah. But I mean, like, is it coming out release day or am I getting it?
00:29:45
Speaker
Like it comes out on the 12th. Am I getting it on the 12th or am I getting it on the 11th? Cause if I can start playing this midnight on the 12th, guess what? That digital, yeah. Yeah. 70 bucks out of allow us a deviation for a question that I think, yeah, go for it, my friend. What we don't, I mean, like the news is pretty late this week. So what games, if any, for this year, are you taking vacation days for?
00:30:14
Speaker
Oh, I should be taking vacation days for tears of the kingdom. I here's the thing, I it's it's really going to be tears of the kingdom in Diablo for the ones that are going to consume my life. And I think Final Fantasy 16 is certainly up there, but I think I mean, I don't know. I mean, Final Fantasy 16 certainly has the ability to probably be like gripping and I have to keep playing it.
00:30:45
Speaker
But like, I don't feel that whole of like, you know, I have to do it immediately. And then after that, I don't know. I mean, like, that's one of the things it's like games you can't put down. That's the thing I think about when taking vacation time off. Right. Or where it's like tears of the kingdom devil for I'm going to be like, I don't want to stop playing to deal with you. Final Fantasy 16, like, I'd be like, I'm sure I could be like, I'll pause this for a minute to go deal with something.
00:31:15
Speaker
So that would, that would, that's my answer. I don't know about you too. What's yours Charles? Are you buying time for yourself, Andy? Well, I don't play games anymore. We've discussed this. That's true. Honestly, that's kind of my answer is that I, nothing has really come out that would want me.
00:31:33
Speaker
I think the last time I took off, I guess not that it was that long ago, was of course Final Fantasy VII. When that came out, I had to prepare myself emotionally for that. It was a whole big thing, but of course I'm taking them. But outside of that? No.
00:31:51
Speaker
I don't it's hard for me to play games for a while anymore still. Yeah. Although, to be fair, Xenoblade 3, I did like a six hour power session and that was revelatory. But outside of that, no, I don't think anything would. Is there something for you?
00:32:09
Speaker
Um, well, I'm thinking Final Fantasy 16. Sure. It like it releases on a Thursday, which is prime like two day vacation. You know, take Thursday, Friday off and you just get the weekend. Does it come out the 16th? The official release date is listed to 20 seconds. There might be a you might get something if you preorder. Yeah, or something. I don't know after Zelda.
00:32:36
Speaker
No, this is that's June. It's literally it's a month and a half from Zelda, which is a good amount of time. OK, yeah. Yeah, bold enough to release from Zelda. I'll tell you what. What was it, Animal Crossing? Who did that last time? Was it Doom and Animal Crossing were together? Yeah. That was Doom Eternal and Animal Crossing. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:33:06
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I was just thinking to myself, you know, Andy, you have your taste in games currently. I have mine too. James is the one that's been keeping up with latest games enough. I only have very select few that I care for.
00:33:23
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And then there's Andy. I'm just a big old boomer now. Like I'm going through a phase. I'm trying. I keep catching myself and I'm like, Andy, don't you dare think that they don't make them like they used to. Like I am so scared that I'm falling into this mindset or if I'm like leaning into nostalgia in an unhealthy way. I mean, there's an argument about how games are different now. I don't like being different.
00:33:53
Speaker
Yeah, but like I mean, like I understand that your point of like, you know what to be like, they were better when we were. Yeah. And that's what I'm worried about. Not that I've fallen into it, but like I'm going through a lunge right now, loving it. And then I plan to go back to Xenogears and beat that. And then I'm a Sega Saturn collector now. So I want to play the game I bought there and I was going to go through police knots.
00:34:18
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I have on Saturn a burn copy. All I'm thinking about is- Whoa, whoa, whoa, what did you say, burn it? You mean from your legal copy that you own, right? They didn't release it in the States. They didn't want my money. You imported it. I bought it for you in Japan, right? Actually, okay. To be fair, actually, yes. I'm borrowing my friend's copy. He imported the Japanese version. Did you know Meryl was in police knots?
00:34:43
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I don't know where I was. Oh, from Mel, your solid one and further. But yeah, crazy. I think Foxhound was too, but at least Meryl, the character on there, I don't know if it's the same one, but she's in there. But anyway, so that's all I'm thinking about. Like none of these are really nothing grabs me anymore because I'm just clinging to the past. And I hope I don't become one of those people. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.
00:35:11
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Speaking of Charles's most anticipated game of 2023, Charles, did you watch the state of play that came out last Thursday?
Final Fantasy XVI and Gaming Systems
00:35:21
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Yes, indeed. Would you like to give your thoughts and feelings on it? Because I honestly kind of like watched it while I was doing something else. It looked real good, but I feel like you could probably give a better kind of feeling about it than maybe I could.
00:35:35
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Yeah, I mean, so with this state of play focusing on Final Fantasy 16, they kind of just showed a little bit more of how world travel is going to be, which is basically you have a hub world where you will take your missions.
00:35:53
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and you could go to a place and select the map, and you'll be presented with a map of all the areas you could explore. And basically, your next mission objective or whatever story thing will be there, along with any other area you've previously visited. And so what will happen with it is that any previously cleared area you've been through, you could go back and free roam and explore the area.
00:36:20
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for quests or side quests or anything like that. They also showcase that in the hub worlds, you know, you'll meet with people, take quests and do and do other things. They even mentioned that they're bringing back hunts, which is a mechanic from I think technically 12. They're in 15 too, aren't they? Ah, yes. Yeah, yep, yep.
00:36:49
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So, you know, hunts are still a thing, which I, and to be honest with you, they're also in Final Fantasy 14. I think hunts are a reasonable side quest thing to do.
00:37:01
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But, you know, all the areas they showed will look very pretty. They looked fun to explore. They did showcase some of the party players you'll have with you. And they reinforced the idea that you're only controlling the main character, Clive, and everybody else is just an uncontrollable party member.
00:37:25
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They showed some of the human characters that you'll have, which are your friends and whoever's story relevant will be there. However, one thing of note that was very cute was your trusty dog, I forget what name they gave him, is also an NPC that is with you. And your dog fights with you, runs around, helps out, grabs people and attacks.
00:37:53
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We're just waiting on a little, you know, confirmation from can you pet the dog Twitter? Oh, that's right. For them to be sure. I'm pretty sure they'll let you pet the dog. I'll be honest. They know what they're doing by having a dog and probably in the hideaway, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll be honest, it looks good. It was very fun. I don't think it's going to be too much of a.
00:38:19
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surprise anymore. They kind of gave a little story explanations on some relationships between characters. So for instance, you do have a, a Sid will be your mentor figure in the game. So that'll be fun. Listeners for some background about me saying a Sid. It is tradition in Final Fantasy games to have at least one character named Sid.
00:38:48
Speaker
in one form of another. So in this one, he is a mentor party character that runs around and helps you. Can I tell you, spoiler, my favorite part of Final Fantasy 12, that Balthier is Sid's son? Oh, yeah. I love that so much. That's so good. Yeah. I mean, Charles, do you have more you want to keep going on?
00:39:16
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Yeah, the one last thing I want to bring up is there's been a slight joke online about what is Clive's abilities and how do you explain it. The joke explanation that also might just have credence is just that Clive is a blue mage in the game.
00:39:38
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Yeah, which is just in Final Fantasy terms, a Blue Mage is a mage that gains that once hit with the an enemy's attack, learns its abilities. And maybe that would explain why Clive can use other icons abilities, even though they're clearly alive in the game. You just made me remember, I still haven't gotten that script book from 8-bit theater.
00:40:05
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Walking into Kickstarter right now to look no, no, I read some I read some of their updates about that by the way There's there it's going marks 13. That's the last one. Yeah, layout is done. Okay Right. All right. Well James your opinion
00:40:23
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Oh, I mean, here's the thing. I think it looks great. It looks like an evolution of Final Fantasy 15. Oh, actually, and this is on screen right now. It's something you didn't talk about to Charles was they demonstrated the accessibility options in the game, which they can you can turn on by default when you start the game, but also are just basically items.
00:40:42
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that make the game kind of, I don't even want to say easier, but just like you can play it differently by giving you like kind of quick time events to dodge and make combos simpler, which I thought was, you know, very, what would you say, like progressive for a Final Fantasy game to even give a shit about accessibility? I don't know about 14, how they're doing these days, but like past mainline Final Fantasy games. I don't remember, was seven remake good with accessibility?
00:41:11
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Uh, they had some accessibility stuff, but yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, that was pretty nice. Uh, it is definitely weird for a Japanese company to acknowledge accessibility. Um, yeah, but nice. This is good overall. Um, yeah, the combat looks really good. The gameplay looks good. Um, can I tell you the thing that bugs the living shit out of me and
00:41:38
Speaker
I hate how the UI and pause menu looks. Like I hate it so much. Which part of the UI? Just like the general like overworld when you're walking around? No, that I mean, that's OK. But like even like the pause menu, like it's done in a very super futuristic style, which I think worked fine in 15. But in here, it looks completely incorrect for the world.
00:42:07
Speaker
Huh. I wasn't paying attention to that. So like the pause menu, like, uh, yeah, hold on. Like there we go. So you see how it's very like clean and modern. Like this is not a, this is not a, like for final fantasy seven remake, perfectly fine.
00:42:27
Speaker
for a, you know, medieval kind of fantasy world. Yeah, a little bit, right? It looks too clean. And I don't know why that bugs me so much, but it just doesn't feel right for a game that spends so much time creating like a world and immersing it to you that you feel almost like you're going into like sort of like an Assassin's Creed simulation menu when you go into that.
00:42:54
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's valid. I think I see where you're coming from on it. I just can't picture what else they would do. I know. I mean, it's the most nitpicky of nitpicky things, but it just stood out to me so immediately when they cut to that menu. I'm like, I've just been removed from the fantasy world that you put me in.
00:43:15
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But I do think the combat looks good, the world look good. The combat, I think you and I describe this to each other as, you know, a better or more adult version of Kingdom Hearts 3, just based on like the fluidity of it and how you mix in magic and like these kinds of special attacks. A friend of ours says it's also very similar to Devil May Cry 5, which you can see by how he kind of changed the other combos and stuff like that as well.
00:43:42
Speaker
I think also, didn't you say that the Devil May Cry fives? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we talked about that before, too, that the Devil May Cry combat person is working on this one. That's why it looks like that may cry five. Yeah, I think the my thing with our friend is just that he likes to. He wants it all to be a zero. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just like, we're talking about you. If you if you've listened to our podcast. Yeah, exactly.
00:44:12
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Take that friend who doesn't listen to our podcast. But yeah, I mean, and and I think we've also talked about the fighting game elements, too, especially when you see like some of these kind of work, quick time events, cinematic cinematic fights. They have mini boss styles. You can see that in there and especially when they get to the summon fights, which they closed the the state of play with, which literally looked kind of like, I don't know,
00:44:41
Speaker
would be the closest fighting analog to this. How is one where they're like gods fought against each other? I don't remember. But yeah, I was talking to another friend about this too, which is
00:44:54
Speaker
Like these these icon fights look great. They look really fun. There is a worry of them potentially being too simplified in terms of like, because, you know, there's a lot of QTE stuff going around. Yeah. You know, boy, I hope it's not just all QTE events, right? It's like you want some skill stuff going on. The stone titan fight from 15. That was that was I remember when that that fight happened on my this game. Ooh, I'm not feeling good about the game now.
00:45:24
Speaker
Right. But I don't know. I'm looking forward to 16. And this hasn't changed that. So I don't know if I'm going to be in love with it when I play it, but I'm certainly looking forward to playing. So I don't I don't have the same Final Fantasy attachment that you two have. I've always been kind of a fan on the side because I was a Nintendo boy. So Nintendo boy.
00:45:51
Speaker
Listen, that means you should still be a Final Fantasy. Well, yeah, four. Yeah, four is if not for twelve, four is my favorite. Yeah. Listen, I'll tell you what the best Final Fantasy game. That's shit, I forgot. What's the one with the Immortals? Why what's his face? Lost Odyssey. Lost Odyssey. That's the best Final Fantasy game. There's even a sit in it, technically.
00:46:19
Speaker
I need to play that. Well, I have played Andy. Andy, it is one of the few games that have ever made me cry. Oh, I from what I remember playing, I remember like you'd pick up like these stories. They're so close. So good. Yeah. Just incredible. It's the best Final Fantasy game no one ever played. It was on what? It was an Xbox game. It was an Xbox 360 60.
00:46:46
Speaker
You know, along with Blue Dragon Blue Dragons. I think Blue Dragon's been ported to PlayStation at this point. I don't think it ever was. No. Oh, I don't remember. There was nothing about Nino Cooney. Never mind. Yeah, that one was that was like on PS3. And I think it went to who knows where.
00:47:09
Speaker
But yeah, I'd bring Lost Odyssey to PC you cowards. I mean, you can through the pageant of, you know, emulating and you're actually I think you can play it on back and pat if you own it digitally, which I do actually do fair. I own the game. What's wrong with me? I just forgot that I own the game.
00:47:30
Speaker
Uh, we have 10 minutes left. So I think we'll do two quick stories and then we'll talk about dead island. But in depressing news, uh, people love Harry Potter, less so trans
Hogwarts Legacy and Game Sales
00:47:45
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people. No, I don't want to say that, but you know what I mean. Um, Hogwarts legacy sold 256% more than predicted.
00:47:54
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Spotted by, this is an article from Insider Gaming, quote, Spotted by Twitter user Bogarad22, the description states, achieved 256% to sell through at launch and exceeded 12 million units in sales in the first two weeks, exceeding $850 million worth of sales.
00:48:15
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secured additional 1.8 billion impressions through a WBD gaming first of its kind fusion program that broke all time twitch record for most peak concurrent viewers ever for a single player game with 1.3 million views.
00:48:35
Speaker
People love that Harry Potter. People love it. That's wild it sold that much though. Well, I can see that. Maybe that's not what I mean to say. What's wild is that they didn't think they would sell that much.
00:48:49
Speaker
Yeah, that that would be 256% more. Like what's that numbers? Because what did Square expect Tomb Raider to sell? Like, were they expecting Harry Potter to sell less than Tomb Raider than Square? I think I can't remember because Square's thing
00:49:08
Speaker
Square wants every game to sell like a Final Fantasy. It's usually what it amounts to. So I think like it sold like four million and then like Square was like, yeah, and they wanted like eight or something like that. And it's like, well, I guess W.B. wasn't expecting those numbers. I don't know if it was because J.K. Rowling is, you know, well, it's it's you're looking.
00:49:31
Speaker
One of the most popular IPs of all time, but it is however a non license games or license games, right? They've come and go. You have, you know, Avengers, right? You can have games that have licenses and still sell poorly.
00:49:51
Speaker
So fair, but well, it did work. It's like I see it was just good enough that people bought it, you know. Yeah. And I that's that's the consensus, at least as I understand is that it's good if you like Harry Potter and isn't that what you want and can ignore J.K. Rowling.
00:50:08
Speaker
Yeah. Hey, shout out ContraPoints released a video yesterday about JK Rowling. If you want to learn more about how in other in other Harry Potter news, there will be releasing a.
00:50:23
Speaker
Harry Potage Quidditch game, basically a sport game where you can play Quidditch and also HBO Max, which will now be known as just X. Oh, yeah. We'll be doing a decades long, faithful adaptation of every Harry Potter book, starting from one, going all the way to definitely hovels. That's it's going to be a thing.
00:50:50
Speaker
And I think Rowling is a producer on that. Well, yeah, she would have to be. Yeah. So she'll be involved in that. But I mean, everybody's going to watch it. Yep. In better news. Mm hmm. There's a Nintendo Indie World tomorrow morning, April 19th at nine a.m. Pacific Time, noon Eastern Time. There will be a Indie World showcase. Tune in for roughly 20 minutes of reveals, announcements and updates on any games where the Nintendo switch.
00:51:21
Speaker
And of course, this leads to everyone. Give us Silksong. Oh, that has to be a drop during this. Or at least that would be pretty cool. Everyone's like, what if they shadow drop? What if they shadow drop? They're not shadow dropping. First of all, that would be miserable for Silksong.
00:51:40
Speaker
I don't know what game I want. Ooh, drop the new Crypt of the Necrodancer. That's what I want. Cadence of Hyrule. Yeah. A lot of people are saying they're wondering if there might be a new Cadence of Hyrule sequel in there or something like that. Well, they are working on a new Crypt. OK. Actually, I don't know if it's called Crypt of the Necrodancer, but it is meant to be a sequel. And I know that's being worked on Cadence of Hyrule.
00:52:08
Speaker
My hot take is that it was too easy for me to enjoy it, which I thought it would have been like the most perfect game in the world, but it was just too easy.
00:52:19
Speaker
Um, which bummed me out. Too easy, professional gamer, Andy. For professional... Listen, I beat Crypt, and after you've beaten Crypt, like, it's just child's play. Cadences. Um... Which was a bummer. I think we'll see vampire survivors getting ported to the Switch. Oh, that would be... Oh, that makes so much sense. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah, that could be a shadow drop.
00:52:43
Speaker
But you Charles, any guesses for about tomorrow? I'll be honest. No, I'm not into the scene anymore. Well, like even with Indies, like they're Indies for a reason. Like I don't see any Hades news.
00:53:01
Speaker
What I think I'd really see is what kind of our line I think already, which is we will see games, previous indie games that aren't currently on Switch be announced to be going to Switch. Like I have this like Hail Mary hope of hearing more about Haunted Chocolatier from Concerned Ape, the maker of Stardew Valley. But he just announced he's going to make a 1.6 patch for Stardew Valley.
00:53:30
Speaker
And he's saying he's taking a break to work on that before going back to work on haunts. I mean, it doesn't mean you still can't get us a trailer for Chocolatier, but I mean, yes, that's true. But I wouldn't mind seeing more of it. I want to see more stuff about this new game. But yeah, I don't know. I just don't know what else you could bring up.
00:53:51
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to protect, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's hard to predict for indies, because I don't know. All we know are the studios that we know. Like, give me a new out of it. From the Outer Wild Studio. That's true. There's a new mist, or a new name from the mist, guys. What's up? That's true. Maybe they'll talk about that. Although I think it's, I don't know if it's on Switch, but I might pick that up.
00:54:18
Speaker
Well, let's close out today talking about the game that we never thought would be here.
Dead Island 2 and Game Innovation Critique
00:54:26
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Dead Island to review embargo broke today. It comes out in three days on always good when the review bar goes on the three days before its release comes out on April 21st, and it's coming to a pretty standard.
00:54:47
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currently sitting at a 74 on Open Critic, with 56% of critics recommending it. Some reviews from Eurogamer, a straightforwardly accomplished zombie action RPG that doesn't quite make the most of its Californian setting. PC gamers, Lou's partner, says Dead Island 2 is hampered by dull design choices, repetitive combat, and a painfully weak story, with its only saving grace being great performance on PC, which, hey, you know what? That's not an afterthought these days.
00:55:17
Speaker
And then on the other side, you have Travis Northup at IGN, giving it a seven out of 10, saying dead out into is a hilarious gorefest and a competence, obviously, in adventure, but lacks creativity outside of its great sense of humor. I'm not going to play this game. No, wait, were you planning on playing it? I mean, I want to play it at some point, but I am in no way to play 60 dollars for this game. Yeah.
00:55:46
Speaker
I wonder if it should have even been released. I mean, at this. I mean, like, have you seen any of it, Andy? Like, not really. It looks pretty. OK. Yeah, it looks good. Yeah. I think the biggest critique is just that it hasn't evolved with the years it's been since it's released, since it was announced, which is just a shame. Yeah. Oh, that's gory.
00:56:14
Speaker
Yeah, listen, I mean, like, yeah, the game is well made and well designed, but I think it's just kind of the it still just breaks down to you're just running around punching zombies, which, hey, guess what is fun? And I think fun can be had there. But it's also not something where it's like this is so new and different. You have to run out and play it. It's like, hey, this game's here. And it's like, do you want to just fucking beat up on zombies for a couple hours? I got a fucking game for you.
00:56:44
Speaker
It just happens to be there's a lot of those games. So it's kind of like you have to be like, well, have you played Dead Rising? Yeah. Have you played all of the Dead Rising? Yeah. Have you played Dead Islands 1 and Riptide? Yeah. Have you played Left 4 Dead? Have you played Back 4 Blood? So it's kind of like, have you played Dying Light? Dying Light 2, right? It's like, oh, you played all those? OK, no. Well, then maybe you played Dead Island 2, you know? There's nothing so special about Dead Island 2 that you have to get it unless you're bored of the other ones you already have.
00:57:13
Speaker
It looks gory, maybe for the gore. Well, I mean, the other games are gory, too. I don't know. So I'm not interested. Yeah. Dead Island 2 is going to be a game I'll play. I probably just will wait for a deal. Mm hmm.
00:57:28
Speaker
When we get that, when they, when we find that like late summer lull, like after, after like Final Fantasy and Diablo four of past, or at least, you know, have solidified, you know, maybe like August, September timeline, it'll probably be real cheap and you and I get in there and do some co-op on it. Yeah. What is the best time to do it? Yep.
00:57:53
Speaker
Um, also, if you'll remember to dead island two was originally released or excuse me, originally announced. Shit. When was it announced? 10 years ago. I think it was 10 years ago. Yeah, man. There had to have been a time where people weren't working on it, right? No, never. Everyone was working on it constantly. What takes 10 years announced in 2014. So nine years ago, brutal, brutal.
00:58:23
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. I can't. Oh, a lot goes into these things, right? Yep. So who the heck knows? But I'm glad. You know what? I'm just happy they can move on, right? I'm sure they've grown to hate this thing. Charles, also, if you didn't notice, I counter picked it out.
00:58:45
Speaker
No, no, I know that. And it's a shame too because I was looking about how to drop things and the windows to drop things are closed, which is weird. I thought you could drop. I said in June, which is rapidly approaching, I think after we do E3, we're going to do a drop ad period so that everyone can kind of solidify their calendar for the rest of the year.
00:59:10
Speaker
Yeah. Cause I was definitely like, I was like weird. I thought cause I was definitely this, I felt good having this like as a surprise pick and it feels bad. I was just going to drop it.
00:59:21
Speaker
It's like you all wanted to hope that like, man, the success story of Dead Island 2 coming out finally and and blowing up the world. Nope. Yeah. I mean, at the very least, it does look like, you know, as if Dead Island Riptide was remastered and put put into a modern game. Yeah. With all the problems of having older game design. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:48
Speaker
Andy, that character that's being played right now is a pair is what's it has using uses a prosthetic leg. Oh, yeah. Look at that character diversity, huh? Oh, that's cool. That was the one thing I heard about this game. Like Detroit said it very much plays like an old game in terms of like its mission structure and everything. And then they were like, and I hate the main characters, but then you grow to love them.
01:00:16
Speaker
Like they're just they're just a fun bunch. And that's what got them through. Man, this game is gory. Holy crap. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was what they were touting. Other games, this gory. Yeah. I mean, that's like, again, that's that's the thing that separates it a little bit, I suppose. Like, yeah, it's like dynamically gory.
01:00:39
Speaker
Yeah, Andy, that's what they were touting. Their their gore system is dynamic so that like no no slash is the same slash on the zombie. I don't know. I don't know. I think that's the boomer in me, too, is like.
01:00:56
Speaker
When I was young, I love. Can't rainbows come out of them when they get disintegrated? There you go. Like, I don't know. It's just, man, things are realistic now. Oof. I mean, what was it? People were talking about are the besties podcast just to bring it back to Resident Evil four just before we wrap up.
Resident Evil Remakes and Ethical Discussions
01:01:16
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They're having discussion about how in the original Resident Evil four, it kind of wasn't a big deal when Leon was killing people.
01:01:24
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But the graphics have advanced to what it is it feels a little sociopathic in the first part of the game It's like because like I don't know you guys haven't played the remake yet. Have you know I'm waiting for the VR available
01:01:39
Speaker
Uh, that's fair. Um, because in like the first section in the village, you can, they had stealth, so you can really just kind of sneak up on this old woman and stab her in the neck. And at this point, I mean, you have seen them burn a cop to death. So there's that, but this old woman is also just kind of in the back there, like sweeping hay with like with a broom. So it's like, she's not.
01:02:06
Speaker
She's not a zombie because obviously she's taking care of her yard, but she's all like it's, and she wasn't involved in the burning. She was off to the side. James, she's complicit. All those who stand around and do nothing. Yeah. It leads into the discussion of what's going to happen when they remake Resident Evil 5 and it's problematic. Oh, no, no, no.
01:02:32
Speaker
Can't do that. I have an easy solution to that. Don't don't. Chris becomes race changed. It did look kind of dark skin today. Oh, man, there's a lot in the dialogue about he's one one 18th. There we go. I think the problem was more of the the African tribesmen wearing stereotypical masks. They shoot. You know what? That's also pretty bad.
01:03:03
Speaker
But also just as an aside, there was some leaked footage of a Code Veronica remake. Oh, really? So it sounds like Code Veronica will be the next remake. Oh, yeah, they should. I know everyone. I know everyone that's right counts it as, you know, one of the canonical canonical correct numbers. But I don't know. That's it. We need to make sure it gets solidified as a part of the remake process.
01:03:30
Speaker
That's right. I'm sure it will. Or you said it is happening, right, James? Well, there's a leaked footage of it. Oh, okay. So I mean, what does that mean? Who knows?
01:03:39
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It was pretty goofy. Like I was watching like a let's play and it was like goofier than I thought it would be. Look, we'll have to see how Capcom handles their racist games in another episode of Add to Party, a friendship simulator masquerading as new show. I've been your host, number one Zelda fan, James Hartwell, and I've been joined by number one Final Fantasy fan, Charles Umont, and I've been getting Andy.
01:04:08
Speaker
So number one. What are your puzzles, Andy? Wait, my puzzles. I haven't made the other ones yet. I don't know. Like, listen, they don't make them like they used to. OK. All right. Cool. Have a good night, everyone. Have a good night.