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Brighton & Everton’s Biggest Needs | Can the Dolphins or Patriots Make it Out of the AFC East? | Summer Transfer Window Thoughts
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In this week’s episode of Who’s Got The Ball? Shane and James discussed what’s ahead for Brighton (03:47) and Everton (14:27) in the Premier League, as well as discussing the transfer rumours & done deals from the last week and giving their thoughts on the transfer window so far (22:05). The lads also finished up their previews of the AFC East with the New England Patriots (36:45) and Miami Dolphins (44:15).
The lads continued their weekly drafts, this week focusing on the greatest coaches of the 21st century across the Premier League, NBA and NFL (50:40).
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Tipperary's Triumph Over Cork in All-Ireland Final
00:00:09
Speaker
Sorry lads, what's the crack? We are back once again with another episode of Who's Got The Ball? Myself and Shane here, a day removed from Tipperary winning the All-Ireland Final. Had to throw that in there from the start. What did you make of it?
00:00:23
Speaker
Tipperary did the whole world a favour, thankfully. I just didn't, really didn't want Cork winning it. I really didn't, so I was over the moon. At halftime I felt a bit defeated. I thought the goal right on half-time was the killer of us. The fact that Tip came in the second half and just from the first minute of the second half just bossed us.
00:00:45
Speaker
Cork couldn't get near to him for the whole of the second half. Two points is crazy, and but and particularly in an all-earned final. Yeah, no.
Young McCarty's Impact and Future Prospects
00:00:54
Speaker
I just thought the performance in the second half was unbelievable for Tip. I actually was in the same boat as you. I thought the game was over.
00:01:02
Speaker
After that goal went in and I was like, Tip will just rue the amount of misses they had. And then, like you said, to only score two points, I don't think I've ever seen that in football or Ireland, and especially in Ireland for that to happen.
00:01:13
Speaker
It's madness and a half. So credit to Tip, they played unbelievably. I think McCarty at just 19 years of age. Unreal. Oh my God, i just so, so good.
00:01:25
Speaker
And he'll be great for years to come for them. So fair play to them on getting it done. Yeah. and ah An interesting thing that I heard them say before the game on and come from the pundits, they were like, it was the last two times Cork were in All-Ireland final. think they only scored one goal.
00:01:40
Speaker
And for a team that scores so many goals this year, they like they'll probably need to score more, obviously, to win a big game like this. But it shouldn't
Predictions and Omens: Cork's Goal Dilemma
00:01:48
Speaker
be a problem to them. And then they only scored one goal again. So I was like, wow, that's pretty damn in stock, but...
00:01:54
Speaker
Yeah, to do but the one as well that they said at the start that I was like, oh God, is this how is this how deep into the mire they're going now? They were talking about omens and the only two times the Open has been held in Portrush. Yeah. Tip of one day on Ireland that year, i was like, are they really going to that level? but That was unreal. To go to that level. Yeah.
Weekend Betting Success Stories
00:02:13
Speaker
yeah i and Actually, speaking of Portrush and Tip, bye the bottom did me a good thing because i i as I mentioned, I back Tip and Galway to get to the football final. So when that let me down, I said, here, Sunday morning, I said, I'll go back in for Tip again, doubled him up with Chris Goddard up to finish in the top five. And he cruised to a third place finish and Tip won. So wouldn't be a nice few bad. But yeah, that was the the main bits of the weekend. Um,
00:02:42
Speaker
For this episode, we'll continue our little intro as we've done the last few weeks, if you're not familiar.
Episode Overview: From Premier League to NFL
00:02:47
Speaker
um we We're just going to let you know what we talked about in the episode. So we covered off some bits. Not much going on in the NBA right now, so we left that one off for today.
00:02:57
Speaker
We went and previewed two teams again in the Premier League. So this week we've got Brighton and Everton. Then we did a bit of a transfer window roundup. Now,
00:03:07
Speaker
We're recording this on Monday instead of Thursday, so we won't have all the transfers. So forgive us for that one. As I mentioned later, hope we don't upset you when you don't see your look most latest transfers in the Friday morning. But then after that, we moved on to the NFL previews. We finished up the AFC East as last week we did the Bills and Jets. So this week we covered off the Patriots and the Dolphins.
00:03:32
Speaker
And then we rounded up with a fun draft. We drafted the best head coaches. across um and NBA, NFL and the Premier League since 2000. So that was a fun one.
00:03:44
Speaker
Hopefully you enjoyed the episode and get right into it. All right, lads. So the first team we're previewing this week is
Brighton's Defensive Challenges and Future Outlook
00:03:51
Speaker
Brighton. and They're next on our list. So we're going preview them the same way that we've been doing for the last few weeks. So we've just got two weeks left of these previews.
00:04:00
Speaker
So first question, as usual, where do they need to improve the most from last season, do you think? I couldn't believe when I was going through these how many teams need to improve defensively. Both Brighton are right up there as well.
00:04:11
Speaker
62 goals I can see that last season. Set pieces were a problem from all season as well. I know they were really young squads full of good players. It seems there were good camaraderie there as well with themselves the manager. 62 goals and still finish in eight. Imagine what they could do if they got that down to 45-50. I think it was 69. I think it was last season.
00:04:33
Speaker
Maybe it was 69. Oh, okay. Yeah. So 59 is still mad. Yeah. yeah Because I was looking at the same thing and I have that they had the most goals conceded in the top 15 outside of West Ham.
00:04:47
Speaker
So I think they had 59 and West Ham had 62, but yeah, that's that was the exact same point I had because... Yeah, it's still it's it's an awful amount of we If they can bring it down even to 40 45, they could very easily jump up another place or two on that table.
00:05:07
Speaker
like Losing 7-0 to Forest, just completely imploding. it It's just outrageous. Yeah, just out nowhere. The team kind of showed their youth in that one ah game.
00:05:18
Speaker
Forest weren't... They were bouncing back themselves, I think, from getting battered by Newcastle that time. So, yeah, that I have the exact same thing. I said defence. just for the same reasons that you had. You can't be like the most in the top half and then the most in the top 15 outside of West Ham. You're basically having a similar defensive record to the teams that are getting relegated or around the relegation zone, which, yeah, you can't do that if they want to keep continuing as they are, which is they want to get back into York. So, yeah, it's pretty, yeah, their defense is pretty bad. And I think it's because of the youth of some of the players they have out there and maybe,
00:05:58
Speaker
the manager too. It's hard to know. But then next question, who are three players on their team that will make the biggest impact
New Signings and Emerging Talent Impact
00:06:06
Speaker
this season? So I've gone for a kind of a defensive fielder, a defender and an attacker. So I've gone for their new signing, Maxime De Cooper, the new left-back slash right-back they've brought in from Club Root. He looked a real player last season.
00:06:23
Speaker
was surprised a top four, top five club didn't go for him. He can play both sides really, really well. He's really, really good delivery. He can take set pieces, can shoot. So I think he's a brilliant signing for him. And it was something they really did need to improve.
00:06:36
Speaker
Whichever side he plays, especially now it looks like a stupid Jan is going to go to AC Milan. So he looks like a really good replacement in straight away, which is something Brighton have been excellent at doing throughout their time in the Premier League. It's like, we'll sell him off and then we'll bring in someone else. We'll sell Casito, bring in Beliba, who is the next man I'm going to talk about.
00:06:54
Speaker
If he can continue growing on the season he had last year, he's going to be he's he' to be their next 100-million player next summer or the summer after. Yeah. Still very, very young. Had a really, really good end to last season. Bit of a kind of a sticky patch in the middle, which you would expect with young players as well. But he really does look a real good talent.
00:07:12
Speaker
And finally, another player who, if he can continue what he did last season, he's going to be incredible. And it's Gruda. He was the season. He tore Liverpool to shreds himself and I absolutely ran Liverpool to pieces.
00:07:24
Speaker
I think he's, I just think he's a quality, quality of a fuller. Yeah. i gone for at least one. Anyway, it's a similar idea to what you, um but I went to a Caddy Oglou because of the fact that a super young is leaving. And I think he's like, I think he's their highest paid player on weekly wages. Yeah.
00:07:44
Speaker
for the season ahead right now. So he'll have a big role to play. And now, like you mentioned, the Kuiper could play, or the Cooper, however you want to pronounce it, I don't know. But if you could play him on on the right, as you said, he can play either side, or Cadillac will play on the right.
00:08:03
Speaker
I don't know which one will, but I'm sure one of them will because they're both seen to be good prospects and players that will be big part of the team. And if a stupid young goes, they're going to have big shoes to fill.
00:08:14
Speaker
So I went with him first, second was Matoma. I just think that if they, he's the best player on the team probably, and if they turn down the big money that it was rumored they were offered from Saudi, I think in January, and it was like 70 million or something like that for him. So if they if they're going to turn down that kind of money, they clearly see him as one of their best players for the future. So Yeah, he's going to continue to be good for them, and it seems like he's going to stay there.
00:08:42
Speaker
And then last I went with Kostoulos, the striker they signed from Olympiacos, €35 million. yard I think it's just crazy to see someone born in 2007 cost €35 million. It just doesn't seem right. But Brighton have great scouts, and I think if they think that he's the next kind of striker to come in and lead the line for them going forward, then there's no reason not to trust him.
00:09:08
Speaker
he's clearly Ferguson is not going to be the guy there and come on to his move in a bit but I think yeah I think he he might be the one the next one I don't know too much about him but I think that if they can bet him in the same way they did Ferguson a few years ago that would be something impactful because they know they'll have a striker for years to come and just an interesting note on him well Not interesting, but just his height, 6'1", and it got me thinking, what is like the ideal height for a striker? I think it's around that spot, because you don't want them to be too big, because otherwise sometimes they're like not fast enough or whatever, or they get a bit falling over themselves.
00:09:50
Speaker
And then if they're smaller, they they're not as good with headers or a
Ideal Striker Height Debate
00:09:53
Speaker
presence. So I think that's the sweet spot. I just don't know. like What do you think? um thousandt I think 6-1 to 6-3. I think 6-3 is a really good height for striker.
00:10:02
Speaker
They can still have paced their strong win headers, as you just said. I think between 6-1 and six three is good. You don't want... Like, you don't want another Peter Crouch. You don't want really someone that's like 6'5 to six seven Like, it just... Look your man at Southampton, Asher. I know he was a menace in one or two games, but he's just awkward in general.
00:10:18
Speaker
Yeah. paul Paul Anuatu. So, I think, yeah, I think 6'1 is a really good height for striker. For centre-backs, then, it's a different story. You do want your to centre-back, but not up front.
00:10:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's the sweet spot around that, I think. 6'3, I think, a lot of... Even... i think there's a lot of even It's so rare. Like I know that I'm not trying to say here now that Zerksy is a world beater, but at 6'4", the control he has is very rare for that size of a striker.
00:10:48
Speaker
So it's kind of hard. And then he doesn't really have much pace. So it's like you're sacrificing that. Then he has a presence physically, but he doesn't use it that well, but he has really good control. So it's a bit strange for his height, but yeah, that got me thinking when I looked at his height, but Anyway, back on track here. What is the ceiling with the current manager and squad for this season? I said here that to get back into Europe will be the aim. And I think that that's also the most they could do.
00:11:13
Speaker
And I capped it at sixth because that's what they did in 22-23 when they got into Europe. So I'm going to go with that again. I don't see them getting any higher than that. Yeah, but but I put a seedling of seventh on them. So we're in around the same again. I think just getting into Europe again has to be their aim this year.
00:11:29
Speaker
They had a really good start and a good finish last season. it's If they can just do a consistent full 38 games, obviously you're not going to play perfect every game. But if they put together as a season the way they finished it, then they could very easily be pushing back into the top seven, definitely.
00:11:44
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I think it's probably realistic. To say that they'd finish in the 9-7, 6 range, but it's also a ceiling for them because they don't think they have the potential to go any further with the young squad they have.
00:11:58
Speaker
No, they're definitely not going pushed in Champions League spots. Not yet. No, no. But one what one piece of business do you think they need to do to help? I think they need a solid centre-back. Someone with a bit of experience. They have a lot of young fellas in there now. They signed another one.
00:12:15
Speaker
He's 23, they have Van Hecke very young as well. think two more this window alone, like young lads. Two centre-backs, yeah. And did they have Aaron Cashin as well, who doesn't look like he's going to be, he might end up going out and loan, I'd say, because he didn't get a look in that season.
00:12:28
Speaker
I think someone like, I know this is, we're ages now, but someone like can Milan Skriniar, who is he's wanted, he's not wanted by any club he's asked at the moment anyway. PSG don't want him. He was in Saudi for while. They don't want him. I'd say if they could get someone like him in, might be completely unrealistic without a European football, but I think he'd be a big president would make a massive difference from someone like him.
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, I was on the edge of saying centre-back, but then I just thought they have so many. But I had the same idea they need someone who's older and because they don't think Dunk has much left in him and to be perfectly honest I actually think he's overrated.
00:13:03
Speaker
i think he makes a lot of silly mistakes and he gets bailed out at times. and But I strayed away from that one and I actually went with the fact that they've done so much business already. If they have no intention of giving cash or Andy Moore in time this year then just cut to the chase and and loan them out or sell them because there's no point in wasting good young Irish talent.
00:13:25
Speaker
I don't want to see that happening. So That was my one piece of business that I like. I think, you know, and obviously it doesn't help them this season, but it may help them in the long run. And I think they've done all the business they really need to so far already. And just they need to go with the squad they have.
00:13:40
Speaker
But yeah, centre-back is hard to argue with, I think. But just the fact they have so many, I couldn't see them signing anymore. Yeah, but all ones they have are so young, Bear Dunk, that they do need someone that can kind of fill Dunk's role to a better standard than he fills it. Because as you said, i agree with you, I think Key has always been a bit overrated. it There was links of him to Liverpool, to United, to Arsenal about somewhere too backwards.
00:14:04
Speaker
I don't know where and what people are seeing in him because I'm not seeing it anyway. Yeah, and when he played for England, I was always shocked. I was like, how is he getting into that squad? Yeah, well, look, Dean has got no new rivals.
00:14:15
Speaker
True, true, yeah. Bit a mismatch at the moment. Some unbelievable talent, and then some guys are like, he's in there. Fair enough. Yeah, sure. But anyway, let's move on to our next team.
00:14:28
Speaker
Your rivals, Everton, the blue side and Merseyside. Do you want to call me the first question? Yeah, so where do you think they need to improve most from last season?
00:14:39
Speaker
I think we surely have the same answer here. like They could not have a barn door last year. They couldn't score. The least of any team outside the bottom three, 42 goals scored. They're going to probably hope that their new signing, Thierno Barry, who we covered a couple of weeks ago, can help them. And they're also going to hope that Beto can keep the Moisey form that he got g when Moise got in and trusted him.
00:15:02
Speaker
So they're hoping probably a combination of those two will help that. But Yeah, 42 goals is just abysmal. So that's a big, big point of improvement. Yeah, i hit the same thing, obviously. I think it was it was really too hard to look past that for anything else. and They underperformed their XG by 14.9 goals. Oh my gosh.
00:15:24
Speaker
And their conversion rate in the league was 7.9%. So 7.9% of their shots that actually went into the net. So they need to make a big improvement of that. It's outrageously bad. I'd say like 10 of that actually under performance was Calvert-Lewin.
00:15:38
Speaker
Calvert-Lewin and Beto, I'd say, yeah. Yeah, just shockingly bad. He's gone now. Yeah, they finally moved on from him. Yeah, it took him long enough. And then United were linked to them.
00:15:48
Speaker
Oh, jeez, I know. When saw that, i was like, please, no. yeah Speaking of players that are still there now, who are the three that you would think will make their biggest impact this season? and um The fact that they have such a small squad, there's not as many to choose from right now. They don't have that many senior players. But I went with Jacob Ryan.
00:16:06
Speaker
I think he's an obvious pick. Just so physically talented. like His ability on the ball, his size, he can win at others, he's fast. Just the perfect centre-back. And they need to start playing him at centre-back.
00:16:20
Speaker
And I think they need to play him next to Brantwit because I've also picked him. he Him next to O'Brien I just think would be an unbelievable partnership. Time to say, definitely way overdue time to say goodbye to Michael Keane, but it's time to say goodbye to Tarkovsky as well in that starting lineup because those two are together.
00:16:40
Speaker
O'Brien and Brantwit I think would be really, really good. and And then the third one, and i think Njai is probably their most talented player, but I i went with someone different. I went with Iragabunum, the young centre mid.
00:16:55
Speaker
Everybody seems to go mad about him. You see like compilations of him playing like when he's younger and When he does get on the pitch, he's he's a big presence. Apparently, like he's going to be one for the future, definitely. So I'd like to actually see that this season from them, and I'd like to see him play a lot if he is going to be you know one of the next up-and-comers. So I think at 22 years of age, it's time now to start showing this potential that everybody seems to see.
00:17:22
Speaker
Agreed, yeah. I also did have Jacob Ryan. I said I have him for, i put him down as a selfish pick because I think they do need to put him in beside Brantwit as well and just see where they go. I think the two of them, they're both um They're both really good on the ball. One right footer, one left footer. I think it's just ah the perfect partnership. It's a partnership that in five years' time, if you saw us, one of the top five, you're like, yeah, that's the best partnership in the league. So I think they need to start building on that now.
00:17:48
Speaker
I put in Pickford. I think he's the reason that they're so good at the back. I really don't like him as a person, but he always shows up for everything. um He always shows up for everything. It's actually it's really impressive. he all He's had the most fantasy points the last two seasons in row as well.
00:18:03
Speaker
He makes unbelievable plays as well. Yeah. yeah Loves saving a penalty. He's really good at his kick. And just think he's perfect for everything. I don't think he'd be any good any further up the league.
00:18:14
Speaker
But I think for team like everything, he does a really good job. And finally, speaking about their lack of goals, I have put in the new lad, Tierno Barry. They'll be hoping he can get 10 to 12 goals this season and just push him up from their 7.9% conversion rate to something that's actually decent. Maybe something along 15 to 20 would be good place to start.
00:18:34
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, i think the goals are obviously important. And it's kind of, we touched on it last week when we talked about they signed Travers as like the backup. And it's yeah like hearing us talk there about Pickford and how important he is to the team to show us how little game time Travers is going to get, which, yeah yeah, not to dwell too long on that, but I just think it's still, I still can't wrap my head around it from his point Yeah, it's still annoying.
00:19:01
Speaker
If they put Travers in goal, do you think their seeding is for the current season? but With Travers and Goal, I actually like Travers a lot, so I would say the same as what it would be with Pickford. I'm going to go, can't really say any higher than 10th without having any more signings because they don't have much senior depth.
00:19:20
Speaker
They haven't made really any signings of note other than the ones we've touched on already. So I can't see them finishing any higher than 10th right now with this score. So I'm going say 10th. Yeah, I have down for 12th.
00:19:33
Speaker
Same kind of reasons as you. I think their squad is just so small at the moment. It's actually crazy. The amount of players they let go at the end of the season on free transfers and they just haven't really replaced anyone yet. I think they've only made two or three signings. and yeah last I was just about to look it up there and count the players while you were talking. I think da they might only have 17 players in their scene disquaal at the moment, yeah and which is crazy. And three them are goalkeepers. Yeah.
00:19:56
Speaker
If they can get that sorted then 12th with all the luck in the world, a bit more goal scoring and a good bit of investment. Yeah, yeah, no, I think so. I think when we look at our, like, when we give our prediction, like a proper full one and our breakdown before the season starts of the table, stuff like that, it might be a bit different in a few weeks time that we could see them.
00:20:18
Speaker
I think maybe a bit higher anyway. I could anyway, but right now I can't say any higher than 10th with this situation. And actually, leads into the next ah next question. It's hard to pick one piece of business they need to do.
00:20:31
Speaker
But what did you go for? So I went for someone that can help Tierno Barry. So they've lost Jack Harris, and who wasn't very good anyway, but he was an option on the wing. They only really have Dwight McNeil. I think someone like Takifuso Kubo would be a really smart bit of business for him, but they could get that done.
00:20:48
Speaker
He's a bit of a goalscoring threat. There was talk him going higher up the league, but I don't think he is. I don't think he is Champions League good. Everton do have new backers now, so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to bring him and have...
00:20:59
Speaker
McNeil one size in the eye in the hole and then ku Kubo, Takikubo Fuso off the other side and then the new fella through the middle then. Yeah, yeah. So I think someone that came would be a good sign and and just somewhere to build.
00:21:13
Speaker
Yeah, I went also at a right winger. I didn't give any option, but said right wing is, they probably, it needs to be, first they need a lot, but that should be first on the list because they don't really have a natural fit for that position At all in the squad so shot surely has to be the first thing on the shopping list.
00:21:33
Speaker
Yeah, surely. So I looked it up there, they have 20 players on their squad list and transfer Marcus. and But one of them is an 18 year old. There's a 21 year old striker called Shermetti who I think played about twice last year. So it's probably in in between 16 and 18 actual first team players in their squad at the moment, which is crazy at this stage. and Yeah, it's not even a full 18.
00:21:53
Speaker
ah full eighteen no it's not It's not a full matchday squad. And when you have two goalkeepers on the bench as well, you're you're looking for trouble then. Yeah, that's crazy to think about. But we'll move on then to the transfer window.
00:22:07
Speaker
So we're recording this on Monday this week and instead of the usual Thursday. Shane is off Gallivanting in London for for a concert. So we're we're getting this one done early. So there may be few more transfers. So don't crucify us if this if we don't have them there from your favourite team. That's because we're recording this on Monday. But a little bit of business and a whole lot of nearly done deals.
00:22:30
Speaker
So just look at the done deals first. and Kyle Walker-Peters gone to West Ham on a free, just kind of a squad rotation backup for Wan-Bissaka. I don't think too much else needs to be said on him.
00:22:43
Speaker
and But then John Arias signed from Fluminense to Wolves for €17 million. euro Now, I don't know much about this guy at all, but this strikes me as another West Ham situation where you got like a big payday from somebody and you're trying to fill the gap with a load of lads for a decent amount of money. I think I hear he's like 27 years old Last season in 35 games, he had 13 assists and four goals scored.
00:23:13
Speaker
And they're spending 17 million euro on him. So clearly they're like, oh, we're going to start buying a few lads to see if we can fill in the Cunha role. I hope they don't continue to do this and they actually spend a decent amount on a decent player.
00:23:27
Speaker
Not that this guy won't be decent, but just it's just one of those punt transfers that it may or may not work out. And often they don't. Yeah, it just doesn't make sense. Like you, I've never heard of him, to be perfectly honest. understand One goal in 12 league games with four assists is not exactly tearing the world apart. And I don't know how Wolves have just pulled this fella out of their back pocket and said, OK, let's slap him on the table and see what we do. think it's a bit mad.
00:23:54
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. And then an outgoing is really the other main one that happened and is done for sure since we last recorded was Danilo, the defensive midfielder from Forest has gone to Botafogo. 23 million euro.
00:24:09
Speaker
I think they signed him for like 21 million euro or something like that a couple of years ago and now he's gone back out. I thought he was very good, solid player, but I can only imagine that he probably wanted to go back and play in Brazil or something like that because, yeah, doesn't make much sense for them to seek out selling them for the same money they bought him when he's young and he's talented.
00:24:28
Speaker
This is a bit of PSR diddling about it, I think. There's a lot of deals going on between Forrest and Botafogo at the moment, so won't say too much later, but I think it's a bit of PSR-ing in this whole thing now, but we'll see. i think I agree with you. I think really, really good player.
00:24:46
Speaker
yeah He's only 24, so he's still developing. He he was brilliant for him, so it's very strange that they just bin him off for the same price they paid it for him. Yeah, i think he fit into their system nicely as well.
00:24:56
Speaker
So, yeah yeah, no, that makes more sense. If that is possible, we're not saying anything. We're just making suggestions. and But yeah, forgot they signed the two boys from Vodafogo like last week. ago So that lines up a little bit, possibly.
00:25:08
Speaker
So we'll look at then a couple of big ones that look to be done from Ornstein. It's basically waiting on medicals. But one of them is, obviously, for your Liverpool, Hugo Eketike.
00:25:22
Speaker
£79 million pounds in total with £10 million of that as bonuses based on success. So, six-year contract and he's going to join up Liverpool for the pre-season tour. What's the feelings on it?
00:25:34
Speaker
i'm He was obviously the second choice. um We might still get the first choice. Who knows? We might. we might We'll see. but i just From what I've watched him, as i said I think I said it last week, that I've never watched him play full 90 minutes, so I don't really know a whole lot about him.
00:25:49
Speaker
But I've seen compilations of his goals in last season. If he finishes as well as he does in that. i' seen a couple I've also seen a compilation of his last 30 shots from Frankfurt, and some of them are...
00:26:01
Speaker
quite something to be perfectly honest because there's a lot more going in Rosehead than the gold combinations will let you think but you know what it's not a bad price in the end I thought it was going to be a lot higher with the way they were talking at the start they thought they were it sounded like they were pushing for that 100 million euros it's a good bit below that if get my maths right so Just have to wait and see. I just i hope he does well. i think at 23, it's a good time for bringing him in. It is the same age Izac was, and he went to Newcastle and did the same kind of profile. So hopefully he works out.
00:26:32
Speaker
And if not, then we'll just bring in Izac to play alongside him anyway. And Rodrigo and Marque. You're just relentless. You're just relentless with this. I think you should be happy know at this point.
00:26:43
Speaker
but i could take I think that should be. Apart from sales, obviously you need a centre-back. But yeah i think that's yeah yeah, I think you're in a nice position where you have good attackers already that can score goals in the Premier League in Salah.
00:26:58
Speaker
Obviously a good attacking squad and Virts has already been added. So I think he's the type of guy that you can probably bet him in and he doesn't need to hit the ground running too much. I think the only way they'll sign another attacker is if Diaz does go to Bayern Munich and then it will be...
00:27:14
Speaker
Maybe Rodrigo, just still there's a lot of talk in him in the last week. could be Isaac. I don't think it will be, being perfectly honest. But if if if if it all started last week at Newcastle saying and they want to pair Isaac and Echitica together and it ends up Liverpool are pairing Isaac and Echitica together, then I'll be in the pub for the week. I won't be recording a podcast that week.
00:27:35
Speaker
Oh my god, i don't I don't think it's going to happen. I'm i'm banning you from exact talk until there's actually an signing from now on because it's just too much. of so much Then looking onto one for my side of things is Marcus Rashford going out on loan to Barcelona.
00:27:55
Speaker
It's going to be 100% wage coverage which is massive. That saves like £17 million pounds for United next season which is absolutely madness. And I think the buy option is only like 25 million pounds then.
00:28:06
Speaker
But like the fact you're saving a hundred percent this year, that's the extra like 15 million that you were looking to save. Like the Villa option was 40 million pounds. So yeah, it works out still around the same.
00:28:18
Speaker
And so I'm happy that a deal has been done for him. I hope he does well there because I love the money is at United, but things just sour towards the end. But yeah, I think that's one that works out for all parties really. Um,
00:28:32
Speaker
And then a couple for Fabrizio and just kind of things that are in the works. I don't think there's any confirmation on these just yet, but ah Victor Osheman, who we mentioned in our best striker draft, he looks like he's going to go to Galatasaray for 40 million and and then 35 million in a year from now and 10% on future profit and a goals-based bonus. That's everything. He has a lot going on there, but he also can't be sold to any Italian club in two years. Oh my God, there's a lot going on in this deal. Yeah, which is he's got hilarious.
00:29:07
Speaker
Yeah, he's going to light it up like for them. yeah and know Are they in the Champions League or not? ah yeah I think they are. Yeah, I think they are. But I just think it's such a waste of talent going to Turkey 26 or It's just... yeah I don't know, I don't get it. I don't get how there's no one in a top league out there looking for someone like him because he's goals every first time. think he's just such high wages and he won't get any cuts.
00:29:32
Speaker
Then it's his own fault really, isn't this Yeah, it seems like it's a whole money based with him to be honest from from what I've been hearing but yeah, I do agree it's wasted talent. A couple of others then.
00:29:44
Speaker
James Trafford possibly going back to Man City is absolutely crazy like They're in talks with Burnley reduce to reduce the £40 million buyback clause. And it might depend on Ederson going, which may or may not happen. So that's just a mad story. And Newcastle will definitely be raging because they had on him lined up. And we just said they need to just buy him. And now they've better owned the bush for too long. And looks like they might not get him at all.
00:30:08
Speaker
And another one that I thought was mad is Inter-Miami expected to get Rodrigo DePaul. Yeah. I think he has still a lot of good years left in him. Like he's just...
00:30:19
Speaker
building the Messi fanboy club over Inter Miami now he's joining Alba and Busquets and Suarez and all over there so I just think yeah I just don't understand that because he's such a good player and I think he's too early for him to be going there but surely it's Messi related I'd say it's Messi and money. So he's pretty much done all he can in Europe now, in fairness. And he's won the World Cup as well. So why not go and play with the love your life for a couple of years before you retire? Like, how old is he right now?
00:30:51
Speaker
Because I feel like he's he's still... i see I actually meant to look it up. I don't think he is. like' I'd be surprised if he's any older than 31 or 32. He's 31. He still has a good few years left in him. um Yeah, and he's only just turned 31.
00:31:05
Speaker
Like the Champions League something. He's only just turned 31. He only turned 31 the end of May, so it's far too early for him to be going to um yeah MLS.
00:31:16
Speaker
We won't say, but if you want to see what um Ugarte thought of him and Messi's relationship, you can look that up and there's a video of what Ugarte, the hand gestures he made during the Uruguay and Argentina game. It's pretty funny, but um Next, Ben, we had mentioned it already, but Evan Ferguson is going to end up with Roma, i'm a loan deal with a €40 million euro buy option clause, a lot of money i'm on the buy option. But from what he was valued at a couple of years ago, Roma will see it as a steal.
00:31:48
Speaker
And I really like this move and I really, really hope it goes as well for him. And I have confidence that it will. but Yeah, i'm I'm delighted with him. Delighted with him taking that move, getting out of England. we We've been saying this a lot of weeks now how we we really want Irish players to kind of branch out. Festy did it. He's gone. He went to Italy and then went to Turkey.
00:32:07
Speaker
It's great. I think the Serie A perfect for him. It'd be a good pace for him to kind of build into it. I think they... Who was the other... Oh, yeah. I can't remember who the other striker was, but I think he'll go in there as first option now. im Straight in as their first number nine, which will give him so much confidence when he's trusted from the start. And I just think I agree with you. I think it's a really, really good move for him.
00:32:27
Speaker
Yeah. And I think that they've just got Gasparini as their manager, who's been brilliant at Atlanta, with a lot of young guys that are bringing them up. So I think that will be really good for him too. So yeah, I like it. And as as you just said, we've been wanting this for a long time, lads, to go over there. And thank God he's one of them that's actually...
00:32:44
Speaker
giving it a go. So let's see how he gets on. I've got one more. Just yeah go and i'll go ahead. If you have one. I just wanted to just have a quick touch on the James Schaffer one. I think we kind of skipped over it a bit. time yeah Yeah, we did. Do you think he goes in there as City's first choice if Ederson leaves?
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah, know if there's bringing him back, is he going in as first choice? Yeah, it's not. He's going to be over Ortega. So. Yeah, I wonder if if they sell Ederson, did they bring him in?
00:33:14
Speaker
one of these deals that Madrid do where they bring someone back from bye-bye for 30 minutes and then sell him to Newcastle for 50 minutes and make a profit on him. that If they don't sell that to them, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did that because...
00:33:26
Speaker
There's not a lot of teams that have the bottle to do that because they don't want to upset the player and agents and all that stuff. But City would definitely be one of the teams that would just... fit Yeah, 100%.
00:33:36
Speaker
Because I don't know if he is Premier League winning goalkeeper yet. So if they brought him back in as their number one after season in the championship, think that would be madness. And dropping from Ederson to someone like him, who... Yeah, Burnley played decent football that I don't know. I think it would be a bit of a downgrade from what Ederson offers them to go down to James Trafford.
00:33:59
Speaker
Maybe if you're looking at the fact that they would want to win like a Champions League, can you imagine him in goal in the Champions League final? like Yeah, no. Not really. So, yeah, it is probably a downgrade.
00:34:10
Speaker
um But I was also like when United Sol Alvaro Correia to... to for Carreras to Benfica a couple years ago.
00:34:23
Speaker
And now he's gone to Real Madrid. But they're like, United had a lower buyback clause. So they're, as on the Athletic Man United podcast, talking to the Devils, they're like, oh, like they could have bought him back and then sold him, like the way Madrid and stuff do, to Madrid.
00:34:38
Speaker
and they made more money that way than they did on the percentage like that they had on the sale. But a lot of teams just won't do that because they want to keep relationships and stuff like that. And Benfica would not have been happy about that either.
00:34:50
Speaker
So you know the teams want to keep a good relationship with other clubs too. But I feel like yes City you would be one of those ones that don't care. Last one I have on my list is Adam Ola-Luckman, who I think is class.
00:35:03
Speaker
He was so good in the... and the time they won Europa League in the final, ah he was just, yeah, like, he was so impressed with him that whole season, but, like, and then he seemed to be falling off a little bit after that, but I still think that he has a lot left in him.
00:35:21
Speaker
Obviously, he's very young, and I think he's, it's time for him to take the next step now, and looks like he's heading to Inter Milan. Club-to-club talks are not completed with, I think, Adelando won 50 million, and Inter offered 40 or something like that, so,
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, I think that would be a good move for him. And i I really like the player. So I like i think that's an interesting move. Yeah, I don't think he's as young as you think he is. I'm pretty sure he's around 27. So I think it's definitely time for him to make the next step. Yeah, I he like mid-20s. Yeah, I think he was born in 97. So I put him 27 this year, good on 28. So it's definitely time for him to try and move on to try and win a Serie A. I think things soured with Atalanta towards the end as well. Gasparini called him out as the worst penalty take we'd ever seen. And...
00:36:07
Speaker
things like that. So I think he definitely did. moly get famous thisar and Yeah, I know. God. Ferguson has had some dodgy penalties down the years. Yeah. all right nicole Yeah. So yeah, that's a, that's the last one I have. Unless you have any more, we can,
00:36:25
Speaker
No, I don't need the sentinels really to to touch on in that. I think, as we said, like we were only recording on Monday afternoon, Thursday, so there was never going to be a whole lot between then and now. So we'll be back up to fully business next week.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yeah, i think it was a pretty decent weekend for some big moves, but I think yeah we'll have a lot more next time, as you said, but um We'll move on to the NFL then. We're doing two more teams this week. and So with that we're back finishing the AFC East because we did the Bills and Jets last week. So we'll start with the Patriots then.
00:36:55
Speaker
So where do they need to improve most from last season? So their short play execution was 30th overall last season for finishing off one to two yard plays.
00:37:06
Speaker
So I think they need to get that up. That's what keeps you on the pitch, keeps your defense off the pitch. If you can make those one to two yard plays, I think they've they've done well. They've upgraded their offensive line and their running back situation. So that should help. But they really do need to get that up from 30th up into the top 15 if they want to be doing anything.
00:37:24
Speaker
Yeah, no, that's a good shout. Like you said, those smaller plays can get you like a third and two and you're not risking them on a fourth and one or whatever like that. So they obviously are very important. What I've said is their leadership needs to be better overall.
00:37:41
Speaker
i think... Now that they've brought in Brable, obviously they have a clear leader and somebody who's done it at the highest level in the NFL and is a very respected coach. It just didn't seem like Gerard Mayo last year had a clear idea or a path of what he wanted to do. It was like initially, I'm not going to be the you know mean guy like Belichick. I'm going to be like friendly with all the players and we're all in this together. And then it was a few weeks removed from that where he said is all the players are soft.
00:38:08
Speaker
And they all did not like that. So that was the wrong path. And I think to they've done well to assess that and move back into the right kind of more Patriots like direction. So leadership for me was lacking big time last year.
00:38:22
Speaker
Yeah, but it felt to me like Mayo was always in there for a year because they were waiting for Vrabel because there was talk of him going in there before they brought in Mayo. So I think they always knew he's here for the year. Let's see what we can do with him. And if nothing happens, unless they won a Super bowl he was probably going to be gone to scar at the end of the season to bring in Vrabel instead. So think that's a good shout. I think the players kind of knew it themselves and just stopped playing for him.
00:38:48
Speaker
I think they did him badly there as well, though. Like, the situation because they brought him in after Belichick as the successor kind of towards the end of Belichick's last season, which wasn't good. And there was a lot of soured relationships there. And then it was just, he clearly wasn't ready for the job. So I think they really yeah kind of did Mayo disservice more than anything.
00:39:09
Speaker
And they said they were going to stick with him, even if it didn't go well. And then and nobody believed that. First chance they got, yeah. First chance they got, they binned him off. Yeah, so that was pretty bad. But that's business, I suppose, in these big, big teams. They don't care about cutting ties. But yeah, I think they'd treat him pretty badly. and So who are the three players on the team that will make the biggest impact for you?
00:39:31
Speaker
So Drake May, I think he had a really solid year last year. He'll be hoping for a big breakout year this year. He's a new target in Stefan Diggs, who is my second one here. I think he's going to go in there as our wide receiver one.
00:39:44
Speaker
and If you show him any bit of love at all, then he just becomes a monster. And I think if Drake May can continue what was doing last year, but he's finding Stefan Diggs, then they could be in for a really, really good season, I think.
00:39:56
Speaker
And finally, Christian Barmore. So they... They franchise tagged him. he's He's basically, he's like, he's the key to their defense now. and We'll see what he can do for them.
00:40:08
Speaker
Yeah, i I went similar with you, starting with May anyway, because I think he's the reason, along with Vrabel, that their winning over-under line is so high, as we'll come on to in a second.
00:40:21
Speaker
It looks like he has all the ability in the world, and he has the physical package and physical presence to play at the highest level and the confidence. So, He was the first for me. Second, I went with Will Campbell.
00:40:32
Speaker
um He was a real leader coming out of LSU. Picked fourth overall. He's going to protect Drake May at all costs, as he said himself. And I think he's... yeah He's supposed to be absolutely brilliant at that position. There was some questions about some small things about, like there was a lot of mention of him having arms that were too short for the position.
00:40:51
Speaker
People are like, have you watched this guy? Like since he was in high school, there's no way that that's going to make any impact on this. and So yeah, he's going to be an absolute beast. He's going to protect Drake May. So they spent a fourth overall pick on him. They must like him.
00:41:05
Speaker
And then last year I went to Christian Gonzalez. He's an absolute star. He'll be in for a huge payday at the end of his rookie contract, going into his third year now, and already in his second year, he yeah made second team all pro, which is amazing, considering how some of the aspects of their defense last year were were not up to the best level. But yeah, for him to be for him to be set there at cornerback, it's it's tough enough to find a star corner when you have one yourself. Like, yeah, I'm just really, really impressed with him. And I think he's going to need to continue to be good for them because...
00:41:40
Speaker
I think he may still see a lot a lot of the field if there if they don't continue if they don't improve massively on offense this year. Yeah, and big time. And I didn't pick Stephon Diggs because he needs to stay off Cardi B and stay off Cardi B's boat, having parties and taking some unnamed ah pink substance and handing it around to people.
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah, still that one is a bit of a and have a fishy situation. I'd love to know what went on there and get the answers, but Yeah, I think he needs to stop doing that. Even if it was a few electrolytes, that's all he was handing out. I think he needs to have the boats altogether.
00:42:15
Speaker
yeah Eight and a half wins. That's over under. Very high. What do you think? Yeah, it's too high. I'm going under. I think realistically, I'm saying six winate wins to eight wins with the way things are.
00:42:29
Speaker
i just I just don't know where this line has come from. As you said a while ago, it's like they just expect Frivel is just going to work a miracle straight away. but don't see it. I just don't see him getting nine or ten wins.
00:42:40
Speaker
Yeah, I had the exact same. I said it's way too high. I think the Jets and the Dolphins even are going to be better this year than they were. And I don't think they'll reach the eight and a half win level. I think it's far too high.
00:42:54
Speaker
think this is one of the ones that is nicely set up to bet the under on, to be honest with you. And leading on from that, their ceiling, I said that they have no chance of the playoffs, to be honest. I i don't think, even at a ceiling, I don't think they'll get there. I think eight to nine wins at a push, if everything goes right, they'd hit that over, but I'm not confident they'd get near it. and And I don't think they have enough to get back into the playoffs, even if they did get like nine wins, I don't think it would be enough.
00:43:22
Speaker
Same as you. I had nine wins their ceiling. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's... I think but it's just way too high the way that... I think fans are looking forward to a lot, and that plays into it too, because fans will get behind this, and they'll back their team to get over. And i think, like, whoever sets the odds and in Vegas or wherever they're being pulled from for bookmakers in Ireland, you know, it's like... It's all...
00:43:50
Speaker
based on the team too. like The Patriots obviously are such a storied franchise and all their fans expect most of them and expect them to be challenging for Super Bowl. So they'll happily take a couple of extra wins on their bets and they're like, right, we can put this a bit higher because it's going to be their fans that will pile the money onto to it. So I think they're smart in what they're doing there with the odds.
00:44:14
Speaker
So moving on then to the last team in the AFC East, we have the Dolphins. Where they need to improve most from last season, I said, is the running game. They only had... Devon Achan, he led the team with 907 yards in total on the ground. And then I think Mostert had like not even 300 yards. and Now they added Madison and drafted Oli Gordon, the third, to probably help in this situation. But let's see how those two guys do because they need to be better there.
00:44:44
Speaker
Because theyre not they don't have enough... two-dimensional offense, it's kind of, but when they're not that good on the ground, it's easier to defend against them. So this is massive, I think. Yeah, I did look at that as well. Their running game was cut last year, as you said, but I did go with they need to protect Tua a lot better than they did last season, especially with how how many concussions he's had now. They can't afford to let him get another two or three this season because it's actually going to end his career very early and possibly his life very early. So they need to protect him properly um yeah and upgrade the tackle position in particular.
00:45:20
Speaker
They have brought in Sabanea and Daniels, but that's for the, they're the linemen. They need someone to actually stand in front of Tua and do what Will came support will Campbell has said he's going to do for Drake May. They need someone that's going to do it that for Tua.
00:45:34
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. And, like As you said, it's not a tackle, but they did let Robert Hunt go to the Panthers a couple of years back. So if they prioritized the offensive line, their running game would be better too. So yeah, the two two things fit together, I think. and So yeah, i agree with you there. I think that's a good point.
00:45:53
Speaker
and The three most important players on their roster that will make the biggest impact, who do you have for this? So Jalen Phillips for stars. If they keep him going, then himself and Bradley Chubb will be really, really good pass rushers. i think I think that's a good, solid base for him there.
00:46:09
Speaker
Kenneth Grant, so really high draft pick again. he's going to be important from straight away but ah with, with, by the looks of it off their interior line. And finally Tyree kill. Um, if they do manage to keep him, I i think everything is kind of quaint down now, but he's just, he needs to be, needs to get back to the forum. He was in two or three years ago. He was absolutely brutal last year. I know I had him fancy football.
00:46:31
Speaker
He was just terrible. Like, so I think you hear if he can get back to form, then he'll be, he he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll make something happen for him. Yeah. Um, I went with Ollie Gordon, the third, who I mentioned, the drafts of him in the sixth round out of Oklahoma State. um He was Big 12 offensive player the year in 2023, a couple of years back in college. I think if he can hit a decent height and add to that running game, I think it'll benefit them massively.
00:46:58
Speaker
Second person gone with is Minka Fitzpatrick, who they just got back in the Jalen Ramsey trade that we discussed a couple of weeks back. I think he'll he'll need to return to better form than he had last season.
00:47:09
Speaker
He'll need to return to his forms of his form of previous seasons if it's going to justify the amount he gets paid and what they gave up for him but I think he's an unbelievable talent and there's a reason hes he was a pro bowler and there's a reason that everybody knows how good he is and as I mentioned already I was looking forward to watching him when he came to Dublin but that's not going to happen anymore so I hope that the Dolphins get him back to his best and then last one is bit of a cheating one but I think it also lines up what you said I said the combination
00:47:41
Speaker
of Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips returning from injury is going to be like signing two stars. When they had to do them together, they combined for 17 and a half stocks in 2023. The two guys got paid and then they both got injured.
00:47:53
Speaker
Bradley Chubb specifically a horrific injury. So I think, yeah, if they get these two guys back and they stay healthy, it's going to be a massive difference for them on the defensive side of the ball.
00:48:04
Speaker
And they've already added Chop Robinson. So I think... Yeah, it it's quite a it's quite a good room that they have there in that position. So let's see how it goes. I think they're in a nice position to to let these guys play well if they stay healthy, which is which is a big gift coming back from big injuries.
00:48:26
Speaker
Yeah, I agree 100%. i think I think Phillips and Bradley Kuchob could have been two of our three for both of us if they can get them back healthy and doing what they do. Other than that, then it is...
00:48:38
Speaker
We're going to come on to now in a second with the over and unders, but there's so much this is ifs and maybes. If they can keep the people fist, then they can have a good season. But they're just massive ifs because they haven't shown any sign of keeping anyone healthy in the last couple of years.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah. Well, with the seven and a half wins, i I'm not sure how good they're going to be, but I think they'll be good enough to get eight wins. I think they have enough to get there. So I'm going to go with the over on this one. I don't think they're going to,
00:49:04
Speaker
like the world on fire, and they might not get even many more than eight wins, but I do see them again to that point. ah you actually went under. Okay. I think it's one of those ones that's pretty close. think...
00:49:16
Speaker
Yeah, I think with the injury history of Tua and the injury history of the two boys that are coming back, I think if any of the three of them go down again, then they are in big trouble again. And I just said, I think seven wins would be realistic for them, seven to nine.
00:49:30
Speaker
But I just thought seven was more realistic than nine was, so I just went with the under. Yeah, and for their ceiling, then what do you think? If everything went properly? Nine. Nine wins, the same as... like I could have just copied and pasted my answers for the last two for the Patriots up here as well because I think I said the exact same thing for the two of them. I think nine wins is their ceiling.
00:49:50
Speaker
I don't think they're pushing playoff levels. Yeah, i I think the two teams have similar enough level rosters and I think the Patriots had a lot of cap space and stuff so they maybe have more unproven guys but then the Dolphins have people that have come off big injuries which is hard to return from so...
00:50:09
Speaker
I think for me, I said the ceiling, I didn't give a win total. I just said to finish second in the division and because I think the Bills are going to run away with it. But and enough that would give them a wildcard spot at an absolute push. But I just still don't see them winning the playoff game, even with and the fact that they may get there through a wildcard. I just think that with their injury history across the roster, it's just I don't think I can go any further than to say that. So that's my app an absolute push.
00:50:38
Speaker
Right, so we'll move on then to the draft portion for this week. I'm looking forward to this one because i think it's really interesting. and So Shane picked the topic this week and we've gone back and forth picking them out. So this week, Shane went with the option we had on our, on our dock of the best coaches in the NFL, NBA and Premier League in the 21st century. So since 2000. So think,
00:51:00
Speaker
and so i think I went first. You went first last week. So that leaves me to go first this time. Yeah, I think that makes it easy for me because there's one person I obviously want more than anybody and you know that it's going to be this way. This one person, yeah, I was going to take him as well.
00:51:19
Speaker
So I'm going with first overall, Alex Ferguson. Seven titles since 2000 alone, 13 in total, but seven titles since 2000, since that is the exercise.
00:51:31
Speaker
Just unbelievable manager. Basically, the whole history of Man United, when I was young, is just everything about Man United was him. And love learning about basically from when he came into the team and everything he did to change the club.
00:51:46
Speaker
So I think he's probably the best football manager of all time and possibly one of the best sporting managers ever. So, yeah, I've got him as first coach. Yeah, that was a pretty easy one for you. So i my first two, I'm going to take Bill Belichick for what he did in the NFL. It was just outrageous what he did with the Patriots. He just turned them into the most dominant NFL team of all time.
00:52:09
Speaker
And after him, then I'm going to stick in Pep Guardiola.
00:52:14
Speaker
Just for what he has done. like i know it's it's been backed up money a lot, but he's still he is a genius. The things he does, turning midfielders into full backs, drives me insane, but it works at times.
00:52:25
Speaker
he He had Messi, Suarez, Neymar running. He had won the treble there. Everywhere he goes, he just brings success. I just think he might be one of the best football managers after Fergie.
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. No, I... On my list, I had him as the next football manager to come, but I had a couple of guys before him from other sports. So hard to argue with that. And I like the Belichick pick, just winning six rings with the Patriots. Like, and yeah, I think he's probably, if not the second or third best, maybe the best head coach in NFL history.
00:52:59
Speaker
and So we're lucky to have got to see some of his teams in action. But next then, I'll i'll get my next two off the list. They're actually both and NBA coaches. So... Greg Popovich, I think is probably the the best answer here.
00:53:12
Speaker
Most wins in NBA history, 1,390. Recently retired from being a head coach because of health complications, but utterly unbelievable with the San Antonio Spurs.
00:53:26
Speaker
Five rings in total. One of them was in 1999, so four rings since 2000. just think, yeah, he's the best in ah just think yeah the n b he's the best and NBA coach, I think probably one of the best ever and definitely the best since the 2000s in my opinion. So I actually hit him second overall out of everybody. So I'm happy I got to get him. and Then next is Phil Jackson.
00:53:48
Speaker
Now, what he did was unbelievable with the Bulls. and before it got to the 2000s. So that alone is is just outstanding. But we're focusing on the 2000s here. So let's just just think about the fact that he won five more rings than in the 2000s. From 2001, 2003, three-peat. This is the third one of his career as he did it twice with the Bulls, two three-peats.
00:54:13
Speaker
And then again 2009 and 2010, all five of those being with the Lakers. 11 rings in total. He doesn't even have enough fingers for all the rings he has. Yeah. Just unbelievable. Five rings since 2000 alone. So he's got to be in there for me.
00:54:29
Speaker
Yeah, so I was, they were the next two on my list as well. And I probably should have taken one of them over Pep. Anyway, i'm moving on. So I'm going to go with Andy Reid next.
00:54:41
Speaker
Turns that Chiefs team into a bit of a dynasty in itself. Not quite Bill Belichick levels, but... so like They were nowhere near two years ago to being a team that should be winning a Super Bowl and they went and done it.
00:54:53
Speaker
I know this year didn't go as well for them, but this year went the way the two years before should went and they actually won it. So I just think he's a genius. What he does, how he turns average-looking players into world beaters for a season and then off they go on their trot then again and never play, never have a season like it again. He's clearly a really, really good motivator, good man management.
00:55:14
Speaker
He's loved by Mahomes, which says a whole lot as well, because Mahomes seems like he's very hard to get on with. So I just think he's a really, really good coach. I did not see that at all, but anyway.
00:55:27
Speaker
And then Steve Kerr is my next pick. I just really like him as a coach. I don't know if he's anything special really, but i just think he he did a great job with that Warriors team. He turned them into a dynasty for a while as well. like Again, he was surrounded by superstars, but the superstars still need to be managed, and he just did a really good job with us.
00:55:45
Speaker
Yeah, I i had those as my next two in that order as well. I just think the Andy Reid pick is like the fact he was so with the Eagles for so long and he just couldn't get the ring.
00:55:57
Speaker
And then, like you said, the first from like the first ring he won with the Chiefs, they weren't expected to be so good so quickly when Mahomes took over from Alex Smith. And then since then, he's just made them into a winning machine. So, yeah, for me, after Belichick, since 2000, he's up there. And then Carazzo, he was mixed. But I'll move on then to my last two picks.
00:56:18
Speaker
Next up for me is the special one, Jose Mourinho. I think... What he's done in the game of football has been amazing, but specifically for that Chelsea team between 2004 and 2007, just, yeah, the like the defence that they had, so amazing. He's one of the best defensive coaches I think we've ever seen in in football. And he kind of doesn't care. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He's managed Chelsea again, obviously, winning a title with them again the second time, so three in total.
00:56:54
Speaker
Then he went on to manage United, I think the best finish they've had since post-Alex Ferguson. So he clearly did very well there. And then he managed Spurs too. So a lot of teams in the Premier League may be more successful earlier on than late, but his impact on the game is massive for me.
00:57:10
Speaker
And then next up, in a similar vein to what Andy Reid can do by bringing the best out of guys who you might not expect the best from, it's Eric Spolstra. with the Heat since 2008, longest tenured head coach right now in the NBA.
00:57:25
Speaker
And he's got two rings to show for it as well. I think it was 2012 and 2013. But he can just turn guys who are undrafted or drafted in the late second round or whatever and just turn them into amazing players.
00:57:36
Speaker
They get a big payday somewhere else and they never perform the same. So that's worth a whole lot in my book. So that's my that's my last pick. Yeah, so he was on my list as well. So was Mike Tomlin, but I'm not going to put him now. I just think he's never had a winning season.
00:57:50
Speaker
Sorry, he's never had a losing season. Apologies. That's absolutely insane. This one was a tough one because i obviously really wanted to put Jurgen Klopp in here, but I don't think he is in the top five greatest managers of all the time.
00:58:03
Speaker
I'm actually going to put in Carlo Ancelotti. I think the man is a genius. He has five Champions Leagues. has won titles in every country he's gone to. I think he's won it in four of the top five European leagues. won it in France, Italy, Spain, and Germany.
00:58:21
Speaker
and I think there's a lot to be said for that. I just think he is... i think he's a class act, and he's probably a better manager than Klopp was, so he gets my final pick. I wanted Eric Spolstrava to you.
00:58:32
Speaker
You got him ahead of me, so... Yeah, yeah. I was left stranded. I think... Yeah, it was like, I wish we saw more of him in the Premier League as well. Like he did yeah so well with Chelsea.
00:58:44
Speaker
And then obviously it was a bit of a weird one when he was with Everton as well. So I feel like we should have got more of him in the Premier League really. But yeah, it's hard to argue with him. Unbelievable manager. I'm disappointed I didn't get...
00:58:56
Speaker
Sorry, go ahead. was just going to say that I can see Brazil actually winning the World Cup next time. I know they've had a really poor start to qualify him, but with him in charge, he's just, he's a boring winner. Wouldn't surprise me if he managed to put them together to win the World Cup.
00:59:09
Speaker
Yeah, no, hard to argue with that. I think he's an unbelievable manager and I think if he picks guys that are based in Brazil as well and works with them, I think it could work out very well. But I'm disappointed. i was going to I'm disappointed I didn't get an NFL coach, but the only two I had that got into the top 10 were Belichick and Reid. So,
00:59:26
Speaker
gonna have to gonna have to sit that side of out um but yeah my five my five were alex ferguson greg pop popovich phil jackson jose marino and eric spolstra and i had uh bill belichick pep guardiola andy reese steve kerr and carlo enchiladi nice one so that's pretty much it that's what we've got for you lads this week hope you enjoyed the episode and we'll catch you again next