[CLIP] The First Non-Binary Person on TV? Toby's 1989 Interview on Sally Jesse Was Wild.

In 1989, Sally Jesse Raphael aired an episode featuring someone named “Toby”—a self-declared neuter, genderless, asexual person who fully rejected the categories of male and female. At the time, the audience saw it as bizarre. In hindsight, it marked the early stages of an ideological shift that would soon infiltrate medicine, academia, and activist circles.

This clip breaks it down. Toby wasn’t just a random guest—Toby was Jim Sinclair, a founder of the neurodiversity movement and a pioneer of the autistic sex education push. The very rhetoric now repeated by modern gender activists was already being tested on national TV, hidden in plain sight.

Covered in this clip:

* The meaning and cultural implications of “neuter” in the late 80s

* The strategic similarities between Toby’s argument and today’s non-binary movement

* How Sally Jesse attempted to handle it with empathy—only to accidentally help legitimize the ideology

* The direct lineage from queer punk to queer theory to neurodivergent sex discourse

This is the ideological foundation of the gender cult, captured on VHS. The names, language, and movements changed. The underlying strategy did not.

Watch the blueprint unfold.

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